1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,640 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe. 2 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,040 Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe. 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,240 Now we have had this asked several times now, yes you do still have to listen, even if we're 4 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:22,880 doing a bad job. 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,000 It's like a five year old picture that they've drawn. 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,640 You have to put it up there. 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,920 They have to be proud of it and I'm sure at some point in the future we'll regret looking 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:32,920 back upon it. 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,600 But you still have to listen and cheer us on. 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,720 We are your emotionally support needing hosts, Taylor and Chelsea. 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,680 Here today, I'm not actually sure what we're talking about. 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,560 I put all my effort into that. 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,040 So I'm just gonna let Chelsea go. 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,040 He never knows. 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,640 I never want to tell him. 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,360 We don't actually know each other in real life. 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,280 I was given the good old, it's getting creepy out there playlist. 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,200 I'm just gonna listen for Halloween. 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,600 I think the buffer for our podcast is pretty apparent with that comment. 20 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,040 Highly recommend it, even if it's not Halloween, even if you're just a spooky enthusiast. 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,480 It is a great playlist for listening purposes. 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,760 And I'm already off track. 23 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,760 That's not what this episode's about. 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,760 This episode is on the playlist. 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:23,080 I'm just talking about Journey to the Fringe previews episode. 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,880 Where we go through and review our old episodes. 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:26,880 Maybe someday. 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,480 So the one is not that great. 29 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,280 It shouldn't be a surprise. 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,360 Apparently some of you like it though. 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,240 So we have some pretty great ideas on our podcast that are long forgotten about. 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:42,360 And it was in revisiting an old episode that I was struck by our lack of follow up and 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,760 created this new episode. 34 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,640 Paranormal thingies in different cultures, which will take us for a ride for more than 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,200 a few episodes, I assume, because I can't just cover that in one episode, I think, even 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,320 though I have the episode here. 37 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,080 This particular one is without rhyme or reason. 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,800 Maybe in the future we'll do another with a theme of some sort. 39 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,120 Of which I'm blanking on. 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,840 I have no themes at the moment. 41 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,000 But I just put them together as I see fit. 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,440 And perhaps we may even be intrigued enough to put the spotlight on one in particular 43 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,240 on a future episode. 44 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,320 Only time will tell. 45 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,520 It'll probably be forgotten about like this episode. 46 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,520 Who knows? 47 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,520 We're here at this episode now. 48 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:22,720 So start us off. 49 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,000 I have the egg ghost. 50 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,840 You know what country this is from? 51 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,800 Egg is an EGG egg. 52 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,800 Yeah. 53 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,800 OK. 54 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:31,800 Yeah. 55 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,680 An English country because it's egg. 56 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:34,680 It is Korea. 57 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:35,680 Oh. 58 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:36,680 It's translated. 59 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,680 OK. 60 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,640 I was wondering when you picked up Korean. 61 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:41,640 Yeah. 62 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:43,840 I was surprised you understood that. 63 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,240 My Korean is so good. 64 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,400 Egg ghost refers to brace yourself. 65 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:54,960 Dalgiel Gweeshon, which is translated from Korean, I think, to English Korean. 66 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,920 Which is a Korean ghost. 67 00:02:56,920 --> 00:03:02,560 It's a very terrifying ghost and its name comes from its resemblance to an egg. 68 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,040 And you're saying this is terrifying. 69 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,760 Yes, it is. 70 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,760 OK. 71 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,680 I mean, I can imagine seeing an egg up there. 72 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,360 Who laid it there? 73 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,840 Why isn't it a nest? 74 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,200 Why am I at the top of this tree? 75 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:21,880 It does not have arms, legs, nor a head, not even eyes, nose, or mouth. 76 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,480 However, it does vary as most legends do. 77 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,240 The ghost largely still looking like the human. 78 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,360 So it, I assume this is coming from translation. 79 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:36,480 So I laid this out weird as I do with my research because I'm experiencing this all with you 80 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:37,960 as we go through. 81 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:43,760 This is a spirit that possesses a human and in taking them over, it takes away all their 82 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:44,760 features. 83 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,840 Even though I say it does not have a head nor eyes nor nose or mouth. 84 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,080 That is in spirit, and then when it takes over the human, it's inhabiting. 85 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,520 It loses its features. 86 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,680 So you're just looking at like a blanks. 87 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:57,680 I don't know. 88 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,320 It looks like it blanks your face. 89 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,320 Yeah, you're looking at a Mr. Potato Head without like its features. 90 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,520 Oh, it's the best way I have to describe it. 91 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,240 A two's egg. 92 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,080 I choose Mr. Potato Head Ghost. 93 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,880 Possession, rather. 94 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:18,800 In some legends, they do not have a nose and mouth or other facial features like depicting 95 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,720 depicted, but also don't have limbs. 96 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,480 Other times it resembles a hunchback, as if it's carrying a heavy load. 97 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,760 However, most images of them do depict a female with no face. 98 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,720 Legend says that when a person sees an egg ghost, they will die. 99 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:40,160 Its origin and personality are not significant in Korea and outside of Korea. 100 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:45,760 They are said to stalk hikers and their ability to hide well is because of their shape, making 101 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,000 them unsuspecting to those who leave the path. 102 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:54,280 Because the ghosts aren't usually associated with anyone in particular there, it's speculation 103 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:56,760 that they are from a childless ghost. 104 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,440 I saw that a lot in the Asian cultures with... 105 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Oh yeah, there's a familial nature of spirits. 106 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:08,240 They have no ancestors to perform death rites and memorial services for them and wander 107 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,920 around restless. 108 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,440 Most Korean ghosts are female and most deal with some sort of dying before giving birth 109 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,520 extension of their existence. 110 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:21,160 The egg shape might also hint towards that because of the symbolic nature of eggs and 111 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,160 fertility. 112 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:27,040 There is just an off kind of to the side mention. 113 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,200 There's also a ghost in Japanese lore that resembles the egg ghost as well. 114 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,640 It's the Doppurbo. 115 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,880 It's a faceless ghost that looks like a human except for the facial characteristics. 116 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,480 However, this ghost tends to trick people rather than hurt them, as we see with the 117 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,520 egg ghost dying people. 118 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,920 They'd impersonate someone the person knows to lure them. 119 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,760 Sir, is dying the word you want to go with? 120 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:50,760 Yeah. 121 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:51,760 It dies. 122 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:52,760 It dies. 123 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:53,760 Okay. 124 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:58,000 Just because we're talking about eggs and there's another way that you can die with 125 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,000 an egg. 126 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,640 Yes, the Easter tradition. 127 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,640 Okay, it kills them. 128 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,640 You're right. 129 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,600 I didn't think of the way I was using my words. 130 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,640 Blue now. 131 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,280 That English, damn it. 132 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:15,400 A lot of the stories of the egg ghosts are specifically tied to hiking and the forest. 133 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:21,080 However, they can be found elsewhere, mostly in dark areas like basements, I assume, the 134 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,080 night. 135 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,840 That's all I got for right now for dark places. 136 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:28,800 There are other stories that talk about how the egg ghost is unsuspecting that it can 137 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:34,240 be anyone and once it gains the trust, it is easier for them to take over that person. 138 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,080 Egg ghosts are also able to attack and target specific prey since they are able to hide 139 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,080 well. 140 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:45,520 The author has it that some egg ghost personalities are not incorruptible as time goes by, or 141 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,960 that egg ghost change to an egg, hide themselves and come out when they want. 142 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,280 There is a riddle connected with the egg ghost that goes, the more you take away, the bigger 143 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:55,280 I get. 144 00:06:55,280 --> 00:06:56,280 End quote. 145 00:06:56,280 --> 00:06:59,880 A hole might start small, but the more you take from it, it gets bigger. 146 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:06,000 I do feel like a lot was lost in translation on the egg ghost after reading that back. 147 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Yeah. 148 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,440 I don't see my answer to any of those riddles being egg ghost. 149 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,120 That's definitely what that is. 150 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,480 No, maybe he just says that. 151 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,760 Do you think this creature was created to solve that riddle? 152 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:24,040 No, I feel like the vibes I get is that he walks around saying that riddle. 153 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,040 Okay. 154 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,080 And that's how you identify an egg ghost. 155 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,080 Probably not. 156 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,080 But it doesn't walk around. 157 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,080 It doesn't have legs. 158 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,880 Well, it makes the person that it's inhabiting walk around for it. 159 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:35,880 Okay. 160 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:41,720 I feel like I, I hope I made your life better by you finding out about the egg ghost, but 161 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,600 I feel like I probably didn't. 162 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:45,600 You still have to listen. 163 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:46,600 Yeah. 164 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,080 We need your support more now than ever. 165 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,600 Are you ready for the next one? 166 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:56,040 No, I have questions or at least ponderings on the egg ghost I want to go over. 167 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,680 I feel like we're going to ponder together, but let's try. 168 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,240 Did it have a particular size where it comes in? 169 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,720 Because I know it varies depending on like what point in the riddle you're at, I guess. 170 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,720 No, it seems pretty mysterious. 171 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,000 You know what I'm picturing for the egg ghost is a Garfield that has that egg. 172 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,560 Yeah, the chicken farm, Sheldon. 173 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,560 Yeah, Sheldon. 174 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,040 That's what I'm picturing. 175 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,240 I feel like that's not what it is though. 176 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,920 No, I'm picturing it's super creepy, but if you, oh, what's it called? 177 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:26,920 Berserk. 178 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,400 It's a manga out of Japan. 179 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,480 They have this stone that has an eye on it and other facial features. 180 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,600 And it's kind of reminding me of that. 181 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,680 Let me find, see if I can find a picture really quick. 182 00:08:36,680 --> 00:08:40,800 Well, that seems like the exact opposite of what they're going for because it has facial 183 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:41,800 features. 184 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,800 This one would have none. 185 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,920 I thought it would gain them as it was going. 186 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:45,920 Would it not? 187 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,200 Once that I'm going to share my screen here. 188 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,680 This is what I'm picturing. 189 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:51,680 That's weird. 190 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:53,960 What the fuck is that? 191 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,400 I haven't watched Berserk in a long time, so I can't quite remember what the stone is, 192 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,960 but that is what I'm picturing. 193 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:02,160 I can see why you would picture that. 194 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,360 Because yeah, I'm kind of picturing because the eggs that we're most used to are chicken 195 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,800 eggs, but like ostrich eggs are pretty big. 196 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,320 I'm sure dinosaur eggs would be pretty big. 197 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:16,880 And then like technically, like all Bish lay eggs, including like screw shaped ones that 198 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,520 are coming from a shark. 199 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,200 Well, it's not like an egg per se. 200 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:28,640 They say egg because of the feature, the oval shape resemblance to, yeah, like of a head 201 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:29,640 with no features. 202 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,800 Yeah, at the end of the day, heads are just egg shaped or generally egg shaped. 203 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,520 I mean, generally, yes. 204 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:43,000 I mean, you might get someone said really, and then my next question, and yes, it is 205 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:49,240 just because it's called an egg ghost is can't you just like break it really easy if you 206 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,840 find it? 207 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,960 Let's clear some stuff up for you right now. 208 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:58,200 Let me I'm just going to share with you a link that has a picture like a rendering. 209 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,760 It's not a real egg. 210 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,040 It's not really that scary. 211 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,040 Like what an egg ghost would look like. 212 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,040 Okay. 213 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,120 Yeah, that's that's terrifying and different than what I was expecting entirely. 214 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,600 Yeah, I know it was because of how you're describing it. 215 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:12,800 Yeah, okay. 216 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,920 So yeah, it's a human that's been possessed by this ghost and it looks like an ambiguous 217 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,520 layer over their face. 218 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,520 Maybe. 219 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,280 No, but yeah, that's the person who's been possessed. 220 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:23,280 Yeah. 221 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,520 It's able to hide. 222 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,120 Like it specifically says that because it's looked like an egg. 223 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,360 So yeah, I'm not sure what it looks like before this. 224 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,600 It might even be invisible and that's why it hides so good. 225 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,600 Okay. 226 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:41,680 Like I said, I feel like some was lost in translation and looking in this, but I'm not sure what 227 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:47,040 it looks like before it takes over the person, but it definitely it's called a ghost because 228 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,440 of the shape of like the face. 229 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,440 Okay. 230 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:51,440 Without features. 231 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:56,400 So anything about like warding them off or defeating said egg ghost in your research? 232 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,400 Okay. 233 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:02,880 Maybe if I knew Korean, it would be a little bit more apparent to me, but this is clearly 234 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:03,880 just translation. 235 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:09,320 That's why this is our first episode doing this. 236 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,160 Well then I am satiated in my urine for more. 237 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,800 Okay, good. 238 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:22,680 This one is called nasnas and they hail from Yemen, but you can find them in the area around 239 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:24,360 Yemen as well. 240 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,720 And I think this one's a little bit better. 241 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,040 They are thought to originate from Yemen as I have just said. 242 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,920 The nasnas is a monstrous creature in Arabic folklore. 243 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,120 Nasnas is considered a lower form of gin. 244 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,240 The supernatural creatures better known in the Western world as genies. 245 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:47,880 They gin who lack corporal form and appear as shadowy ghosts, myths or sandstorms. 246 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,840 The nasnas look like a human being cut down the middle with half a head, one arm and one 247 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,720 leg on which it hops at great speed. 248 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:01,600 In some versions it has the tail of a lamb, still half a person though, but with a tail. 249 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,920 A Stantonian upright possess demonic features and are sometimes described as having the 250 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:07,920 tail of a lamb. 251 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:08,920 God damn it. 252 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,120 It's only one arm right? 253 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,640 It's half a human. 254 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:22,240 It was believed to be the offspring of a gin called Sheik and a human being. 255 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:27,240 In some Arabic folk tales nasnas were a tribe of people who were punished by God for turning 256 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,440 their backs to the prophet, transformed into monsters that hop like birds and greys like 257 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:33,680 animals. 258 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:39,120 Other tales claim that the nasnas is the offspring of a human and a demon called Sheik. 259 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,920 What the fuck man? 260 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,440 I can't get my shit together. 261 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,640 Oh well, it makes it more interesting for you the listeners. 262 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:53,360 Despite their or infusing however you want to take it. 263 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,320 Despite their fearsome appearance there are many conflicting accounts about the nature 264 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,480 of the nasnas. 265 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:04,440 In the story the sage and the scholar from 1001 knights, a character who is transformed 266 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:09,840 into a nasnas is regarded as a harmless curiosity by the humans he encounters. 267 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,680 In other tales nasnas terrorize humans and carry them off. 268 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:15,520 Either way I don't want to meet one. 269 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,120 Cause they know the gin, I'm good with that. 270 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,600 And that's a brief introduction to the nasnas. 271 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,760 So they said it's cursed to greys? 272 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,920 How does it eat if it only has half a mouth? 273 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,800 Like wouldn't it all just fall out? 274 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:29,800 Magic. 275 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,640 I'm actually not really sure of what this like if you saw it from the side would you 276 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,520 see like the insides of a person or be like closed off? 277 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,320 You would I don't know. 278 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,040 See if we can find a picture of it. 279 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:46,600 Or is it just we can only see only one part of it inhabits this dimension so we can only 280 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:47,600 see that. 281 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,600 I would highly recommend googling it at this point. 282 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,240 You seem to only see it from not that side. 283 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,360 Oh there's one. 284 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,480 You see on this rendering you see it's insides. 285 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:02,480 Okay. 286 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,000 Like every one of these pictures is either of them looking right at you or them explaining 287 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,240 that's only a half a thing. 288 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,640 And then sometimes the tentacles coming out of that. 289 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:10,640 I saw one with wings. 290 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,280 Oh yeah there's the tentacles. 291 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,840 I saw one with wings. 292 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,040 One's a dragon with a human head. 293 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,840 One is like a human on one side and a skeleton on the other. 294 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,080 Oh yeah I mean there's no actual. 295 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,080 Sometimes they're rendered. 296 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,480 Yeah and some of the pictures have like the leg on the opposite side of the body than the 297 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,720 rest of the half. 298 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,720 Which I don't maybe. 299 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,720 Yeah maybe. 300 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,400 And it also weirds me out a little bit that NASA's name is so close to this weird being. 301 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,880 Probably just a coincidence. 302 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:40,880 Probably. 303 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:41,880 Any other questions. 304 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,520 I don't think you're going to have answers for any of my questions. 305 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,360 So I'm going to say no. 306 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:52,920 And this sorry there's one picture from the side of a nasna but it's from the normal side 307 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,920 so you can't really even tell if it is a nasna or not. 308 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,520 You can't even tell it's a nasna. 309 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:58,520 Nasna. 310 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,920 Sorry it has a nas on the end. 311 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:01,920 So nas nas. 312 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:02,920 I waited a long time. 313 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:03,920 Right. 314 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,920 Yeah I waited a long time to correct that. 315 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,920 And I was also seeing it. 316 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Okay the next one is the suku. 317 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:13,920 Su-ku-mogami. 318 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,920 Su-ku-mogami in Japan. 319 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:22,880 The suku-mogami is a concept popular in Japanese folklore as far back as the tent center. 320 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,920 It goes back a long way. 321 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:31,560 The most accepted definition of the term says the suku-mogami are inanimate objects that 322 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,360 once they have served their owners for a hundred years they receive a soul and therefore become 323 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,880 alive and self aware. 324 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,360 Oh I know this one. 325 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,360 I love this one. 326 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,360 Yeah it's the brave little toaster. 327 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,360 Yeah basically. 328 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,560 And it just sticks around long enough it gets its own soul. 329 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:47,560 Yeah. 330 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,960 So long as an object has been treated gently and kept in good condition it won't do anything 331 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,840 bad to its owners. 332 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:59,920 Generally speaking su-ku-mogami are described as harmless creatures with a childlike character 333 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,680 who only seek attention through their activity. 334 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:08,480 As su-ku-mogami that perceives its owner as wasteful or no-glepful might decide to leave 335 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,000 the house or even turn violent. 336 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:16,680 These su-ku-mogami, this is wasting a lot of time saying this, spread fear and terrorize 337 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:21,480 people and play nasty jokes on their former owners but are ultimately rather harmless. 338 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,160 It's just a one-off if you're treating your stuff bad. 339 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:29,280 That being said they can become shape-shifters through a special shintaoist ritual and gain 340 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,880 magical powers comparable to oni which are demons. 341 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:38,280 They can become bloodthirsty monsters in exact cruel revenge on humans for the dishonor 342 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,280 done to them. 343 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:45,320 So I would highly recommend any knives you intend on holding onto for a long time treat 344 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,760 them pretty nicely. 345 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,840 You don't want that one to turn into a demon probably. 346 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,720 No, but there's a very easy way to prevent this. 347 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:53,720 Just buy new. 348 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:54,880 Yeah, that's true. 349 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,000 I don't intend to live another 100 years from this point. 350 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,280 Right, that's true. 351 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,280 I mean, I- 352 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,880 It's whoever inherits your new stuff that's going to have the problem or even who inherits 353 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:05,880 it from them. 354 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,560 So go ahead, treat your stuff like crap and then give it to somebody. 355 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,560 You're good. 356 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,560 And then they're gonna go all brave little toaster on someone else. 357 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:19,440 Through their behavior which is very reminiscent of poltergeist activity in western cultures, 358 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:20,640 that's ours. 359 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:26,240 This spirit of these things, I'm not wasting any more time saying it, according to folklore, 360 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,840 want to remind their former owners that they must take care of their household and all the 361 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,960 objects and artifacts in it. 362 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,880 Consequently, the actual main motives are boredom and sorrow. 363 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,400 Many of them are said to at best simply leave the house and run away if they continue to 364 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,400 be ignored. 365 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:47,440 Envy is also said to play a role, but this is directed against newly acquired household 366 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,160 items that were supposed to replace the old ones. 367 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:55,720 For this reason, it is not uncommon for them to wreak havoc in the affected home. 368 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,560 Most initially play silly pranks on the residents in whose household they were born. 369 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:01,800 In quotations. 370 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:07,400 So remember, every new object you bring into your house, they are being born. 371 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,600 And also judged by the old ones. 372 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:10,600 Yes. 373 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:15,760 But I'm pretty sure Brave Little Toaster actually taught us that and if not Brave Little Toaster 374 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:16,760 Toy Story. 375 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:24,480 I mean, there's a lot of movies for children based on this and I probably not recommend 376 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,440 watching a Brave Little Toaster because it's had a huge emotional impact. 377 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:36,840 Chelsea, I'm just wondering here, speculating out loud, is the world that cars inhabit? 378 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,680 Is that just a post-apocalyptic human civilization where the things were sat there for a hundred 379 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,480 years and then the cars universe just spontaneously started? 380 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,480 Yeah. 381 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:47,480 Okay. 382 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,160 That's, yeah, that has implications. 383 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,240 Or they were neglected cars, came to a hundred years and they killed everyone. 384 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,920 Oh, it's that Stephen King book then where all the cars came to life. 385 00:18:58,920 --> 00:18:59,920 Christine, right? 386 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:00,920 I can't remember. 387 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:01,920 I think it is. 388 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,920 It might not be, so. 389 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:11,520 It was one of the ones from his Coke days where he just was pumping out weird stories. 390 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:17,200 So objects could include household items, for example lanterns, tea kettles and futons. 391 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,960 These are very Japanese items to have. 392 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,960 I'm not sure what I'm talking about. 393 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,960 No. 394 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:29,280 So we might be off the hook. 395 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,080 Everyday objects, for example, watches and umbrellas. 396 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,080 Okay. 397 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:39,720 Clothing, for example, coats and sandals in case none of us knew what clothing was and 398 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,440 musical instruments in case you don't know what those are. 399 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:49,720 Examples include Baywas, Bwas, Imacin and cars. 400 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:54,280 I don't think we need examples, Josh. 401 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,280 No, you do. 402 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,280 You do. 403 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,800 I have a hard time seeing any clothes. 404 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,480 No, I'm just having a hard time with clothes making it a hundred years. 405 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:10,640 None of the clothes I personally own would, but I suspect if you're quite rich and have 406 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,920 really nice clothes, they maybe might. 407 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,000 Or they're vintage clothes. 408 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,280 I think some of those ones can last, but definitely not the fast fashion that we have 409 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,320 these days I don't think is going to last a hundred years. 410 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,320 Fair enough. 411 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,320 No, is there more? 412 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,880 We need to speculate some more. 413 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,360 Yeah, one more we can speculate on. 414 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:35,280 They continue to play a significant role in pop culture, in particular the Casa Obaki 415 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,400 or Umbrella Ghost frequently appears in video games and anime. 416 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:44,880 The creators of the Pokemon series also seem to have drawn inspiration from the Tsukuyo 417 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,920 Gami and that's where it ends. 418 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:52,360 So I can't tell you exactly where Pokemon drew inspiration. 419 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:54,520 I'm going to assume Pikachu. 420 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,040 Is he not a real Pikachu? 421 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,040 It's an electric mouse. 422 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,040 Yeah. 423 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,040 Oh, he is? 424 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,040 No, I have no idea. 425 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,040 Oh, okay. 426 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,040 He's coral. 427 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,200 I just have, I need to figure this out in my mind. 428 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,120 So a building couldn't get a soul, right? 429 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:11,240 It was not in the example, no. 430 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,840 Because that's what I was thinking when you said clothes before you gave me example. 431 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,680 It's like clothes, like a building. 432 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,760 You were thinking building? 433 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,640 Yeah, but so... 434 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,480 That's why the examples are there. 435 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:27,200 So that's, I don't know if it's because it's too big or because it's like fixed in place. 436 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,840 Can only things of a certain size get it? 437 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:34,960 It didn't seem like there was and now that you mention it because you do like own or 438 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,240 tenant a residence. 439 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,800 So it would be something you can, like the walls you take care of. 440 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,520 What if you're like smashing the shit out of your walls? 441 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,240 Dropping things on your floor. 442 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,960 Because that's the most likely thing that could be over a hundred years as a building, 443 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,960 I think. 444 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,960 Maybe coins. 445 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,960 I don't have an answer for that. 446 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,160 That is a very good question. 447 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:01,080 I mean, if anyone hasn't answered the email is at the end of this episode, I believe. 448 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,080 So just continue listening to get that email. 449 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,640 As you have to anyways. 450 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:06,640 You do. 451 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,640 And please, please, please. 452 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,640 And please, please, please. 453 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,520 That email, tell us we did a good job. 454 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,160 Despite what I say prior to that. 455 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,880 I'm gonna say yeah. 456 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,200 The one that I think is the craziest implications is what about robots? 457 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,600 Like fucking Rosie from the Jetsons. 458 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:24,600 Yeah. 459 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,960 After a hundred years, do robots get souls then? 460 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,760 Oh no. 461 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,120 And come to life. 462 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:33,120 I would say yes. 463 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:34,120 And puppets. 464 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:35,120 Pinocchio. 465 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:36,120 Fuck. 466 00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:37,120 Wow. 467 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:39,320 This just opens up too many King's Awards. 468 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,320 I think we need to leave this topic. 469 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,320 This is my play. 470 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,480 Okay, does that mean you're ready for the next one? 471 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,480 Yes. 472 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,400 Okay, so far we've looked at the egg ghost, which we're still confused about. 473 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,800 The nasnas and then the suuuuumogami. 474 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,360 Now we're on to the peachal peri in south and central Asia. 475 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:07,440 The peachal peri usually appear female with long hair covering the face and feet pointing 476 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,720 backwards. 477 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,040 The peachal peri translates roughly to back footed. 478 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,760 So there's that. 479 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,200 What language? 480 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,200 Not sure. 481 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,200 Okay. 482 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,960 That's just what it translates to. 483 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,840 The language is south and central Asia. 484 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,080 That's a unique language, isn't it? 485 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,080 Beautiful words. 486 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,080 I know. 487 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:31,120 Peachal peris are said to roam the mountains of India and Pakistan, so it might be one 488 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:32,120 of those languages. 489 00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:37,000 They are said to be found in the Himalayas, though it occasionally enters some Indian 490 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,240 villages. 491 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:43,880 In Pakistan, sightings are usually reported in the rural mountainous regions of the Khyber 492 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,200 Pakutankwa province. 493 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,800 However, sightings in the Punjab province are also occasionally reported. 494 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,800 The characteristics of the peachal peri vary depending on the region as we see with pretty 495 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,720 much everything in existence. 496 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,680 In one version, peachal peris appear in the woods at night and target lone men, appearing 497 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,440 as beautiful brides asking men for help. 498 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,760 And men generally tend to help her and she disappears when they notice her backward feet, 499 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:17,200 not causing any harm, which is really a best case scenario happening right there that she 500 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,800 just disappears. 501 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:24,880 In the second variation, peachal peri turns into a demonic witch who is 20 feet tall with 502 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:31,480 a long face, dirty nails, a hunchback and is wearing bloodied clothes, large circular 503 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,160 eyes and black hair that covers her face. 504 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:40,280 Most stories about him or her, so not always a girl, will have the victim escaping as these 505 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,280 are usually told by people who claim to be first-hand witnesses. 506 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,440 You can't tell a story if you're dead. 507 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,200 That's an important lesson to learn from the peachal peri. 508 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,680 Usually it's elders in the villages warning of entering the woods at the wrong time warning 509 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,000 that locals and tourists often go missing and never found. 510 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,360 So she walks forwards, it's just her feet are backwards, right? 511 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:04,640 And so her knees? 512 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,640 I don't know what way her knees are facing. 513 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:15,840 But the gin are said to also have backwards-facing feet. 514 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,320 You see that coming from around the same sort of region. 515 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:24,520 I don't think the gin is, you find that in India. 516 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,960 Generally it's more of a Middle Eastern thing, but it does spill over as well. 517 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:35,960 Yeah, and it's not a gin, but you still see the backwards-facing feet, which I was kind 518 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,680 of intrigued by. 519 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,760 That's why the peachal peri made it into this episode. 520 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,960 So with that, I figured I'd throw another one in for good luck. 521 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,840 Feet pointing backwards is in pairs, good luck. 522 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,240 Heading over to the Dominican Republic, we have C. de Guapa. 523 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,680 And that is a mythical creature of Dominican folklore. 524 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:04,480 They are commonly described as having human female form with brown or dark blue skin, 525 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:11,120 and facing feet and very long mains of smooth, glossy hair that covers their bodies. 526 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:15,600 They supposedly inhabit the high mountains of the Dominican Republic. 527 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,080 I did not know the Dominican Republic had high mountains. 528 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,680 I didn't know that either. 529 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,920 But I also don't know much about the Dominican Republic. 530 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:24,920 Haiti does? 531 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:25,920 Yeah. 532 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,920 Well then yes, they can probably go in. 533 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:34,440 These creatures are nocturnal creatures, so come out at night, for example, of nocturnal 534 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,040 just in case. 535 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,960 Also, due to the position of their feet, one can never quite tell which direction the 536 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,960 beings are moving by looking at their footprints. 537 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,640 So they probably wouldn't know that their feet are facing backwards. 538 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,200 So you just go the way that you are. 539 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,160 No, and you wouldn't just, yeah, you wouldn't know if you looked at a set of tracks, whether 540 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,320 it was this being or if it was just somebody walking the other direction. 541 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,440 Okay, you explain, you got it for me. 542 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,640 You gave me a great example. 543 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,640 Some people believe that they bring death and it is said that one should not look them 544 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,880 in the eye, otherwise the person is at risk of being bewitched permanently. 545 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,040 It's that nice problem. 546 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,360 Oh, he's permanently bewitched. 547 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:18,880 It's an easy way actually to explain mental illness. 548 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:19,880 That's true. 549 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,560 I'm feeling bewitched today. 550 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,160 So I'm just trying to picture somebody walking with backwards feet. 551 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,760 Is it like when you're wearing like, snowshoes and you got to pick your foot up like straight 552 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,480 up and then move forward? 553 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,520 I feel like the balance would be off firstly, way off. 554 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,640 You can't just like slide your foot. 555 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,840 Yeah, because like, I don't know, usually you use like the arch of your foot a bit to 556 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,080 kind of like propel yourself and I'm not wearing shoes right now. 557 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,760 So I'm actually just kind of like testing out how my feet move. 558 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,160 I've definitely gotten used to walking with my feet pointing forward. 559 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,080 So I feel like if they suddenly turn backwards, I'd be fine. 560 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,200 One could call us experts on this in fact. 561 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,000 Yeah, I have to imagine. 562 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,840 Doing it for years. 563 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,600 That if they were born this way and they learn to walk with their feet pointing backwards, 564 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,000 they may be good at it. 565 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,000 They might not. 566 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:18,040 It might just not be conducive to being a properly functioning human and not a seguapa. 567 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,680 That's my input on that and I stand by this. 568 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,680 Okay. 569 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,680 Okay. 570 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,680 We're not talking about that anymore. 571 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:29,040 The only vocalization made by seguapas is said to be kind of a way to be able to 572 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,920 have a wine or chirping. 573 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:36,400 Seguapas are considered to be magical beings, beautiful and impure to some. 574 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,120 If you like brown or blue skin, yet horrendous to others. 575 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,840 That was a big thing when the X-Men movie came out. 576 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,840 What was her name? 577 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:45,840 Blue. 578 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,840 She can change into people. 579 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,840 Isn't she a fish? 580 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,840 She has scales, I think. 581 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,040 No, she's not a fish. 582 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,040 She's a mutant. 583 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,040 Oh. 584 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,040 Hence the man part of X-Men. 585 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,280 But do mutants have scales like fish? 586 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,760 I don't think so. 587 00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,760 She might. 588 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,760 Let's see. 589 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,760 Sorry for going. 590 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:07,440 They are compared in many cases to mermaids, beautiful yet cruel and far from innocent. 591 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,960 Eseatful and ready to capture the wayward traveler. 592 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,520 It is said that they are so beautiful they can lure men into the forest to make love 593 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,760 with them only to kill them afterward. 594 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,360 Legends have suggested that some are benevolent and wish not to kill trespassers, though not 595 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,600 much evidence supports this claim. 596 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:31,800 There's more evidence that it's murderous than tonight. 597 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,000 Unlike the Peachle Perry. 598 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,200 Unlike that, because you can't have sightings if you're dead. 599 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,160 Even today, wenkins still find inhabitants who confirm having sighted a seagwappa. 600 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,800 Some also state that she is hard to find and locate due to her backwards feet, so she is 601 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,680 almost impossible to track unless you know how to follow the feet backwards. 602 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,880 We're basing the fact that she kills off the fact that there's no sightings of her. 603 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,720 I can't argue with that logic. 604 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,720 Okay. 605 00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:59,720 I can't. 606 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,160 It's too good. 607 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:06,800 So the most murderous of these cryptid creatures or demons or spirits, we don't even know 608 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:07,800 about. 609 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,600 No one's ever seen. 610 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,840 Yeah, exactly. 611 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:16,360 And even less likely to be believable are things that people have seen, like a fucking 612 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,360 zebra. 613 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,440 As people are still living. 614 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,160 Are those hasp-mix zebras? 615 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,160 Yeah. 616 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,160 Zobras. 617 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,160 I miss those guys. 618 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,240 Lore states that the only way to capture a seagwappa is by tracking them at night during 619 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:42,880 a full moon with a black and white poly-dalkylic dog called the Cinqueño Dog. 620 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,960 And I did Google that for once. 621 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,640 This is the first time I'm turning to the French history. 622 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,320 I have Googled the word that I did not know. 623 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,600 And it is like you have an extra finger. 624 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,920 Oh, so a six-toed dog? 625 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,160 Yeah, or hand. 626 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,040 You need to ask six fingers. 627 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,320 Because the front paws are three. 628 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,320 Totally a hand. 629 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,320 The back paws are two. 630 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,360 And that's just logic. 631 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:16,760 So yeah, that's the seagwappa, which is the second backwards-footed creature that we're 632 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,760 discussing here. 633 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,000 And that's on the other side of the world. 634 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,000 Yeah. 635 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,880 Yeah, pretty much exactly. 636 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,280 Next one I threw in for Taylor. 637 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,760 It is the one I have the least information on. 638 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,760 Okay. 639 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,280 This was fucking hard. 640 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,680 It is the Ba Jiaoyi, ailing from China. 641 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,680 I tried so hard to get a Chinese ghost. 642 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,600 And let me tell you. 643 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,720 Is it alcohol-based? 644 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,720 No, not this one. 645 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,720 Okay. 646 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,960 I was reading Chinese ghost I looked at. 647 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,720 When I like, you know, you Google it, you're like Bigfoot. 648 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,240 It tells you like what Bigfoot's about sightings of Bigfoot maybe. 649 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,160 You know this I have provided a single sighting. 650 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:05,360 And for everything I looked at in Chinese, it told me about how it got that name and 651 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,840 the roots of the word in Chinese. 652 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,360 And I was like, this is not what I'm after. 653 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,680 Why must I know about the language of it and how it came to be this word and the word? 654 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,480 The roots of the word and like, I don't know. 655 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,440 It was bizarre. 656 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,840 Which is why this is the first ever Chinese ghost we've covered. 657 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:25,840 Yeah. 658 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,840 I think no. 659 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,840 Probably the first one to cover it too. 660 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:29,840 Probably. 661 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:30,840 Yeah, probably. 662 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,840 That's what we're known here for Journey to the Free. 663 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,240 What they already knew us is that and here we are saying it for the first time. 664 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,240 Okay, enough of this. 665 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,640 Listen to what I have to say about the Ba Jiaoyi guy. 666 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,640 We'll never know. 667 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,600 A female ghost that dwells in a banana tree and appears wailing under the tree at night, 668 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,560 sometimes carrying a baby. 669 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:56,320 And some folk tales from Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore because it hails from China, 670 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,120 but it's a world traveler, mostly within Asia. 671 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,120 Greedy people ask it for lottery numbers from the ghost in hope of winning money. 672 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,720 So they type. 673 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,280 So I assume it has some reason it would know the lottery numbers, right? 674 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,960 It's not something about these people. 675 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,520 I'm actually not sure. 676 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,840 They're hoping to win money. 677 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,280 They tie a red string around the tree trunk, stick sharp needles into the tree and tie 678 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,760 the other end of the string to their beds. 679 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,520 At night, the ghost appears and begs the person to set her free. 680 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,680 In return, she will give them a set of winning numbers. 681 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,880 If the person does not fulfill in her his promise to set the ghost free after winning, 682 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,760 they will be met with a horrible death. 683 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,120 Nope, we don't know. 684 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,800 Maybe they just targeted that ghost in particular. 685 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:50,920 Maybe the ghost appeared trying to be set free, saying that it would give lottery numbers. 686 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,640 So sorry, you said you're going to get to the etymology of the word or at least the 687 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,640 translation of the. 688 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,640 Oh, oh, OK. 689 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:57,640 No. 690 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:03,040 Can we assume then that this is Mandarin for ghosts of lottery's future? 691 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,840 Yeah, we sure can. 692 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,440 Really ends up this one. 693 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,320 It also goes by banana ghost. 694 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,920 No, this is this is why I did it. 695 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,440 It was the one that didn't only tell me about the etymology of the word. 696 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,240 OK, we're getting close to being at the end. 697 00:34:17,240 --> 00:34:21,240 We got the where hyena who hails from the Middle East. 698 00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:26,840 The where hyena is a mythological creature from East Africa and the Middle East. 699 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,000 Unlike the werewolf is portrayed as being originally human. 700 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,000 The where hyena. 701 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,000 Sorry. 702 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:42,320 I do like the where hyena better. 703 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:48,760 The where hyena in many lore's is described as a hyena that is in disguise as a human, 704 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,040 which is way freakier than a werewolf. 705 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,040 I got to say. 706 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,920 Yeah, way better than a werewolf. 707 00:34:53,920 --> 00:35:00,440 Can you imagine if it was a wolf turned into a man on like Thursday afternoons and like 708 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,120 just had a yearning to go work an office job like that? 709 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,680 It's way scarier than a werewolf. 710 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:11,080 Like he walks in with the like suit jacket in his briefcase and he's like, John, good 711 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,080 day to you. 712 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,320 And John's like, did I get my hyena to say hello? 713 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,440 But then he's like so wrapped up in his work that he like can use whatever. 714 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,840 Like I got to get this email sent. 715 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:31,640 And we have so many good movies that should be made out of this episode. 716 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:40,800 Okay, so the were hyena is larger than the regular hyena and stands on two legs. 717 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,920 Just like we imagine coming in with this briefcase coffee. 718 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,080 He's just standing by the water cooler. 719 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,360 He just wants some human interaction. 720 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:56,760 In the former Borno empire of Africa, the were hyena was called the Baltugan, Baltungan. 721 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,280 It was once traditional belief that one of the two of the villages in the region was 722 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,960 populated entirely of were hyenas. 723 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,760 They just made a society. 724 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:12,920 Oh God, that would be terrifying to just come across it and like they're all in a rush. 725 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,000 Assuming that they like have made a society like ours. 726 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:23,560 Yeah, I hope that hyenas could do a better job than what we've come up with. 727 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,040 But maybe, yeah, I would hope so as well. 728 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,560 I have faith in them, though. 729 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,720 I don't think the villages are any longer, so maybe they evolved and had space travel 730 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:35,920 and they fucking left this place. 731 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:41,440 Yeah, maybe that's where all the pollution in our upper atmosphere came from. 732 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,160 I can wear hyenas. 733 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,280 We're solving so many problems. 734 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:51,920 I wonder if live science ever thought of that. 735 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,280 You have to assume they thought of all options. 736 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,160 In Ethiopia, traditionally every blacksmith was actually a witch that could change to 737 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,720 a hyena. 738 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:05,560 These blacksmith wear hyenas are believed to rob graves at midnight and are referred 739 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,480 to as Bodha. 740 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,440 Belief in Bodha is also present in other African mythology. 741 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,680 In the folklore of western Sudanic people, there's a hybrid version, a human who is 742 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:25,120 nightly transformed into a cannibalistic monster that terrorizes people, especially lovers. 743 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,640 This is just a wolf. 744 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,640 I know, right? 745 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:33,280 The creatures often portrayed as a magically powerful healer, blacksmith, or woodcutter, 746 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,640 in its human form, but recognizable through signs like a hairy body, red and gleaming 747 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,400 eyes and a nasal voice. 748 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,040 No, this version isn't as good. 749 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,040 I don't like the Sudanese version. 750 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,720 Yeah, no, we need to go back to the... yeah. 751 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:47,720 We do. 752 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:48,720 But we go on. 753 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:49,720 It means be perverse werewolf or nothing. 754 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:51,960 I know, it does. 755 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,680 It's just a beautiful thing. 756 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,680 I had to put it in when I saw this. 757 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,120 I was like, fuck yeah. 758 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:02,880 Arab folklore tells of how hyenas can mesmerize victims with their eyes or sometimes with 759 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,080 their pheromones. 760 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,280 The hyenas also believed to be a vampire. 761 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:14,240 A Persian medical treatise written in 1376 tells how to cure people known as Kaftar, who 762 00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:19,520 are said to be half man half hyena, who have the habit of slaughtering children. 763 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,480 What did that happen to have? 764 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:26,640 The Greeks until the end of the 19th century believed that the bodies of werewolves, if 765 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:32,120 not destroyed, would haunt battlefields as vampiric hyenas would strength the blood of 766 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,120 dying soldiers. 767 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,840 I think that came up in a werewolf episode, didn't it? 768 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,840 I can't remember. 769 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:37,840 I don't remember. 770 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,840 That's funny. 771 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,280 I was going to say no, but that's just me guessing and I tried to stay away from that 772 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,920 on the podcast. 773 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:51,880 My favorite is the Borneo Empire of Africa, where they had the village that was just straight 774 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,880 were hyenas. 775 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:53,880 Yeah. 776 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,080 They didn't even try to blend in. 777 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,560 They made their own society. 778 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,480 So that was the best for last. 779 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,040 But do you have any else to say about were hyenas? 780 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,040 No. 781 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,680 I think we've already speculated enough just on what type of society where hyenas would 782 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,840 build, why they're truly more terrifying than us turning into wolves. 783 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,080 So no, I think we're good. 784 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:20,320 But I do like to picture them with super mundane names like Tim, John, Derek. 785 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,320 Yeah. 786 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,320 Derek. 787 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,320 Yeah. 788 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,040 That's all I know of those kind of names right now. 789 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,040 They're all no. 790 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,040 They're all boys. 791 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,040 Yeah. 792 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:34,200 Yeah, and I do fully just expect them all to be boy hyenas. 793 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,200 Yeah, I know. 794 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:40,040 I'm not picturing a female wear hyena at all. 795 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,040 I just can't picture them in like a business lady suit. 796 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,920 No, no, they're definitely just the blazer. 797 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,600 See them with a tie. 798 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,720 Only the, okay, only a tire and a blazer. 799 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:52,320 Like there's no undershirt or pants. 800 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,320 Yeah. 801 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,480 They definitely got a briefcase and coffee. 802 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,680 Maybe glasses if their eyes are bad. 803 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,360 I'm staring at the screen too long. 804 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,360 Yeah. 805 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,360 Yeah, exactly. 806 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,360 Hyenas did not evolve to look at screens. 807 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,040 The wear hyenas are tired of the fucking daily grind. 808 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,120 Nine to five. 809 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,120 Do you think that they just, maybe they just decided like this life is shit. 810 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,320 Let's just go back to being hyenas. 811 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,160 And that's what happened to the tribe. 812 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,360 Maybe that's where hyenas come from. 813 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,360 Yeah. 814 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,360 Okay, okay. 815 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,360 Let's end this. 816 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,360 Okay. 817 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,360 So, end off. 818 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,680 I wanted to give this fun little tidbit that I also found. 819 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,600 You see, I found my stride. 820 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,520 I started off a little shaky with the egg ghost, but I found my stride. 821 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,520 Okay. 822 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,400 You just got to stick with it a little bit. 823 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,080 So to end off, I wanted to give this fun little tidbit from the Middle East. 824 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,400 And that is that they gave us the word ghouls. 825 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,520 I didn't know if we know that. 826 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,760 I definitely didn't know that. 827 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,360 I don't think we talked about it before. 828 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,320 We could have, but I don't think we did. 829 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:59,120 The name Al Ghul derives from the Arabic Ras Al Ghul, head of the ogre. 830 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,400 The English name demon star is a direct translation. 831 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:08,800 Ghouls are thought to be zombie like jinn who haunt graveyards and prey on human flesh. 832 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,320 They are strictly demonic and incapable of goodness. 833 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,120 And they are often portrayed as nocturnal. 834 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,120 Again, example. 835 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,600 End example. 836 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,200 And that's where I leave this off. 837 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,200 Okay. 838 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,200 Well, thank you for that. 839 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,520 I hope you know this episode as the where hyena episode of our heart. 840 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,680 And with that stuck in your heart. 841 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,400 I have been Taylor here with Chelsea. 842 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,840 We are Journey to the Fringe. 843 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,280 Thank you all for 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