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From the unexplained to the mundane, join us on our journey to the French.

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Hello and welcome to Journey to the French.

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Or unlike Rotten Tomatoes, we are certified fringe by some guy in an alleyway, which is

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probably just as good.

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We are your alternate walkway-approved host, Taylor and Chelsea.

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And today, talking about some Halloween-y topics that Chelsea has given me a vague idea

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about, but all I can say is superstition, as far as I know for right now.

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So from here, I'll just let her take it away.

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That's about all I can say as well.

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Well thank you for this episode.

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Yeah, you're welcome.

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See you next week.

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Turns out superstition is an incredibly complicated thing that goes back a long time.

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And there are many, many theories out there as to what, where, what and why about superstition.

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I saw it it was created in the 1970s by James Brown.

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Or not James Brown, Rick James.

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That's probably the most well, no, no, no.

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Yeah.

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Where there is superstition.

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He proclaimed it.

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It's the catchiest of superstitions.

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And you're not wrong.

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You are not wrong.

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And so when I started looking up about superstitions, I was like, I'm going to be honest, this is

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far too confusing.

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And I'm not interested in this.

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And it's the great and mighty month of Halloween after all.

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So let's just talk about superstitions, plain and simple.

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No debating and no confusing BS about like the backstory of superstitions because it's

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too much.

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It's too much.

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It's too much for you guys and me.

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So mostly me.

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So I'd like to believe we all have our own superstitions because after reading through

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a lot of these superstitions to get ready for this episode, I realized that I myself subscribe

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to most of them.

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Not sure if I should be proud or ashamed.

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And in my defense, I don't subscribe to them all because most of them, unfortunately.

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So to put it simply, I am actually really curious as the evil eye come up.

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It did.

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I didn't put it in.

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It will be its own episode in the future at some point.

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So that's good.

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It came up briefly.

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Didn't make the cut though for some reason.

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I think I don't know what happened there.

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I can never tell you what happens when I put together an episode.

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It just kind of, it's like the categories of can't decide.

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Yeah.

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And what's the other one?

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You like go into tunnel vision with it and then the feeling uncertain.

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Kind of feeling uncertain.

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Yes.

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I actually put two separate episodes into each of those the other day, but I still can't

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tell you why.

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It's just a feeling.

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Anyhow, the episodes pretty much rate themselves.

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They get put how they want to get put.

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So that's all the explanation you need on the episode about superstitions.

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Okay.

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Simply put, as superstition is any belief or practice considered by non-practitioners

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to be irrational or supernatural attributed to fate or magic, receive supernatural influence

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or fear of that, which is unknown.

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It is commonly applied to beliefs and practices surrounding luck, amulets, astrology, fortune

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telling spirits and certain paranormal entities, particularly the belief that future events

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can be foretold by specific, apparently unrelated prior events.

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Chelsea, I do have a question for you.

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Just kind of at the start.

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Do you think the basis for most superstitions are undiagnosed OCD way back in the day?

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It could be.

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I can't say no.

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Because I feel like it's just things that caught on where it's like, no, if I don't

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do this, like bad things will happen.

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If I don't wear this amulet and rub it three times.

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Yeah, I can't say no, but I only cover a select few.

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Nothing like that came up in the ones that I'm doing, but I mean, something like that

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would be considered superstitious along with.

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So here's a quote that I liked about superstition.

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So here you go.

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I'm going to read it to you.

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Get ready.

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Superstition lives longer than books.

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It is engrafted on the human.

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I never heard that word on the human mind till it becomes a part of his existence.

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And it's carried from generation to generation on the stream of eternity with the proudest

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of fames untroubled with the insect encroachments of oblivion, which books are infested with.

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That's a quote by John Claire.

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Wow.

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He really likes his fancy words.

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He really does.

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Me, not so much.

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I can't pronounce them.

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Good thesaurus work, John.

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So yeah, superstitions go back a really long time.

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And I find it funny that things that go back so long are so prevalent.

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And we're going to see.

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They're so prevalent in the superstitions that we have today.

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So let's talk about some superstitions now.

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I already said we're going to give you some good and spooky ones for Halloween that you

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might see come up with Halloween or have to do with spooky things.

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So let's start with Friday the 13th.

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This is more of a Western superstition and it happens when you cross the unluckiness

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of 13 in conjunction with a Friday, which is generally an all right day in my opinion.

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It's one of the better days in the week.

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So I was a little confused about this.

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Top two for sure.

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For sure.

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Like there's nothing better than a Friday getting off work on a Friday.

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It's the end of the week.

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Like that's the last day you're going to have to work that week, hopefully, unless you work

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Saturday in which case that's a Thursday, Friday.

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So the number 13 has all sorts of reasons to be unlucky.

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There's even a word for the fear of the number 13, which is trick, cicada, Kei phobia, something

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like that.

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Yeah, it's a terrible sounding word.

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One of the reasons we don't like the number 13 and it's considered unlucky is coming from

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Norse mythology.

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In a well known tale, 12 gods were invited to dine at Valhalla, a magnificent banquet

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hall in Asgard, the city of the gods.

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Loki, the god of strife and evil, crashed the party, raising the number of attendees

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to 13.

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Other gods tried to kick Loki out and in the struggle that ensued, Baldr, the favorite

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among them, was killed.

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That's why 13 is a lucky number in Norse mythology.

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And we see a lot of Norse mythology come up.

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We've had it come up in Christmas.

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A lot around Christmas.

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Yeah, this one is now around the number 13.

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Scandinavian avoidance of 13 member dinner parties and dislike of the number 13 itself

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spread south to the rest of Europe.

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It was also reinforced in the Christian era by the story of the last supper at which Judas,

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the disciple who betrayed Jesus, was the 13th guest at the table.

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And if you are not convinced by the luckiness of this number with those two examples, then

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maybe this will convince you.

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The number 12 has frequently been seen as positive, so 12 months in a year, 12 signs

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of the zodiac and 12 days of Christmas, 12 tribes of Israel, naturally making its nearest

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neighboring number of the Norse upwards 13 negative.

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It could never come close to being as good as 12.

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So why is Friday...

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Oh yeah, 12 is a great number.

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12 is amazing, so 13's never gonna live up.

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It does piss me off on how we actually count it for hours in a day.

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What should naturally come after 11 AM, Chelsea?

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12 AM, right?

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We should count 1 to 12, right?

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We count 12 to 1 to 11.

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It's a terrible system.

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Oh, now that you say that, that does make sense.

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Anyhow, continuing on.

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So why is Friday the 13th considered so unlucky when it clearly should probably be a Monday?

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Like Monday the 13th sounds horrible.

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That would suck.

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It's more scary.

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Friday the 13th of October 1307, King Philip IV, that would be, of France was arrested

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and put to death hundreds of the Templar knights.

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That sentence is...

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King Philip put hundreds of the Templar knights to death.

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And put to death hundreds of the Templar knights.

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Yes, thank you.

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In France, Friday the 13th might have been associated with misfortune as early as the

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first half of the 19th century.

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A character in the 1834 play Les Finesses des Treblées.

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French is my first language.

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You didn't notice how beautifully I said that.

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He states, I was born on a Friday, December 13th, 1813, from which come all of my misfortunes.

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And then an early documented reference in English occurs in H.S. Edwards biography of

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Giaquino Rossini who died on Friday the 13th of November 1868.

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But Rossini was surrounded to the last by admiring friends and if be true that, like

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so many Italians, he regarded Fridays as an unlucky day and 13 as an unlucky number.

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It is remarkable that on Friday the 13th of November he passed away.

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It is possible also that the publication in 1907 of T.W. Lawson's popular novel Friday

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the 13th contributed to popularizing the superstition.

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In the novel, an unscrupulous broker takes advantage of the superstition to create a

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Wall Street Panic on Friday the 13th.

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Anyhow, I literally recognize none of the words put together in those sentences for

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the most part as you can tell from me reading that.

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So I'm still confused about why Friday and we'll summarize it up as reasons.

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Probably some reasons Friday the 13th is unlucky.

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I think it would be a reasonable or logical step to take.

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Like the whole reason 13 is unlucky is because it's not natural.

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It comes after the end of the 12 which is the natural base system of the Sumerian counting.

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It would go to say that Fridays are the ending of things as well.

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So an end and an end are both unlucky.

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Yeah, I didn't really get into Friday and then there's the other things about more religious

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and god things to do with 13 which will see come up.

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A lot is tied into religions and mythology.

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That's the Western world but other cultures have their own deeds of bad luck.

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So we have Marte Stresse in Hispanic and Greek culture.

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Tuesday the 13th and in Greece I have to say their reasoning is just more understandable

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to me.

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Friday is considered dominated by the influence of Aries, the god of war, or Mars, the Roman

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equivalent.

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The following of Constantinople on the 4th Crusade occurred on Tuesday the 13th of April

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1204 and the fall of Constantinople to the Ottomans happened Tuesday the 29th of May

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1453.

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Events that strengthen the superstition about Tuesday.

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In addition in Greek the name of the day is treaty meaning the third day of the week.

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Adding weight to the superstition since bad luck is said to come in threes.

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In Italy they have the 17th of July.

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The origin of this belief could be traced in the writing of the number 17 in Roman which

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is XV11.

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That one does not matter what day of the week it falls on right?

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No, that one's just July 17th.

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Bad news.

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That's not even a day of the week that comes up every so often.

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That for sure happens every year on the same day.

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I wonder if people avoid having children on that day.

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They'll push for having C-sections the day before or if you're going to schedule a report

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that day.

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If your due date's on that day we have to have a C-section before or after just in case.

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So by shuffling those Roman numeral digits of the number one can easily get this word

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in Latin which means I have lived.

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I'm not even going to try and pronounce that.

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It does not even look like letters to me.

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Implying death at present which is an omen of bad luck.

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In fact in Italy 13 is generally considered a lucky number although some people may consider

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13 an unlucky number as well due to Americanization.

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The year 2000 parody film.

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Shriek if you know what I did last Friday the 13th was released in Italy with the title

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translated of course.

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Shriek do you have something to do on Friday the 17th?

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If I had to pick I would say Greece knows what's up.

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Tuesday the 13th we should abide by that one.

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I can get behind.

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That's good reasoning.

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I think for Tuesday the 13th to be unlucky I might also change myself to being Monday

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the 13th as being a bad luck day.

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How come I can't hear you?

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I can't hear you.

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Sorry there was crying behind me.

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I personally really like that you like this reasoning and have listed none of the reasons

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in just Tuesday.

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We did talk about that.

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Moving on.

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Just for fun I thought I would give you a few bad things that have happened on Friday

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the 13th.

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So Buckingham Palace was bombed during World War II September 13th 1940 by the Germans.

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March 13th 2020 was considered the first official day of the pandemic in the US being declared

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a national emergency by the one and only Donald Trump.

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Tupac Shakur died which is still unsolved by the way.

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September 13th 1996.

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Tupac not Tupac.

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Tupac Tupac.

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Was there not actually just like somebody was just arrested for that was it not?

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Are you serious?

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Has it been solved?

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You heard it here first.

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Yeah no sorry two months ago there was a Las Vegas police search in connection to the

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Tupac murder.

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What?

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Yeah.

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You heard it here first on Journey to the Fringe reporting that Tupac was two months ago.

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Okay maybe solved.

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He died September 13th 1996.

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So this may be the strangest editor's note I've ever had to make but as of September

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29th 2023 Dwayne Kefi D. Davis has been arrested for the murder of Tupac and indicted by a

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grand jury in Nevada.

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Apparently there has been changes in a couple weeks since we made this episode and they're

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now editing it.

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The Costa Concordia ran aground off the coast of Italy January 13th 2012 the largest passenger

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ship ever wrecked with almost double the number of people on board the Titanic.

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Uruguayan flight 571 that was headed towards Chile when it crashed landed in the Andes

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October 13th 1972 where there were the passengers were stranded for 72 hours and were reduced

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to hiding in the 72 days not hours.

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Those 72 hours I'd be concerned for 72 days and were reduced to hiding in the fuselage

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of the plane and eating the deceased passengers.

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Computers fell victim to the Friday the 13th virus January 13th 1989 in the UK.

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Hundreds of computers were affected by the virus which deleted personal files and slowed

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them down.

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Swedish flight D3 vanished and was never heard from again while flying over the Baltic Ocean

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June 13th 1952.

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The Swedish government maintained the story that the plane was performing training exercises

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however it was leaked in the 90s that the crew members were actually spying on the Soviet

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Union for NATO even though Sweden was officially neutral during the Cold War and Russia responded

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with its own confession a Russian pilot told the Swedish diplomat that he had shot the

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plane down.

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Obviously lots of things that happened on Friday the 13th I could go on and on but there

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you have your proof that it is actually an unlucky day and also there are people who

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would tell you that it unlucky things probably don't happen anymore on Friday the 13th than

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any other day.

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It's actually just too bad that you don't have a list for Tuesday the 13th.

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They actually don't put those together as nicely as the Friday the 13th one.

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Well they might it's just in Greek.

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Next up flat cats.

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This one originates in Europe though cats have often been associated with good luck rather

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than the opposite which is bad luck and the ancient Egyptians fucking love them black

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and otherwise didn't matter the color they didn't discriminate it was there that the

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belief began that a black cat crossing your path brings good luck.

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That's not what this episode is about it's about bad luck well no it's about superstitions

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actually.

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The most difficult turn for the worst for these bastards sometime around the dark ages

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went in 1232 AD a papal bull by Pope Gregory the this would be one X the night the night

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declared them an incarnation of Satan those are pretty bold words.

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Yeah Pope said used to have so much more fun back in the day.

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Yeah.

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Crooked is all hell but like they got away with a lot more.

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I would consider that fun now that you mentioned it just being like I'm in a bad fucking mood

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today cats are fucking incarnations of Satan.

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There's all sorts of like ridiculous things with the popes.

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That would be a good episode maybe weird poke stuff.

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Yeah weird popes though.

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Yeah maybe.

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Okay.

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So in the 14th century the association thanks to the Catholic Church between black cats

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and the devil was so prevalent that people believed that they were causing the black death

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and attempted to exterminate them.

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In the early 17th century in England King Charles I had a beloved black cat as a pet

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upon its death he is said to have lamented that his luck was gone.

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The supposed truth of the superstition was reinforced when he was arrested the very next

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day and charged with high treason.

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That's just a crappy couple of days.

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Yeah I mean it was the cat's fault.

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That dies arrested for treason.

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Yeah black cat.

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Things only went downhill for black cats from here with people in the middle ages burning

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them in bonfires on holy days like Shrove Tuesday and first Sunday of Lent and even Easter.

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Really disturbing fact this whole thing against black cats is actually particularly disturbing.

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It's actually kind of surprising they've existed into modernity.

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I know I'm surprised they haven't been wiped out.

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If you needed them for a sacrifice for a particular holiday does that not mean there's like a

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black cat breeder out there that's getting them ready for that?

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True it would say.

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Or are they just catching them?

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You would need them for that wouldn't you?

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Eventually they would be gone so I think you're right.

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Then there was an association with witchcraft being that many people during the dark ages

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just happened to have cats to keep pests away.

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So it was just a general popular thing to have on hand.

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And the thought was that black cats specifically were witches familiars gifted to them by the

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devil himself.

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The black cats may even have had their witches themselves.

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I just said that twice in different ways.

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So it's a very important point.

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It seems to have been the dominant belief held by the pilgrims when they came to America

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and was still a strongly held belief during the Salem witch trials.

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Another medieval myth told that Satan turned himself into a cat when socializing with witches.

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The color black has also been associated with evil and death which didn't help matters

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for the furry friends who had the misfortune of being born the color of the night.

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The devil himself.

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I don't know if the devil is black or what color he is.

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Actually there's a lot of superstition or folk history where he's called the black

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man.

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Again it's a lot like that stuff we've talked about in previous episodes where it kind of

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comes across as racist and all but very dark.

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Just based on my looking into it probably the association that we see with black cats

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goes back a long time obviously.

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Prevalently probably coming from the Salem witch trials and them to do with witches is

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why we see it come for Halloween around Halloween.

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Otherwise just generally unlucky.

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I did like the spin on it from another country for crossing but it's unlucky to cross a

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black cat's path and that brings bad luck.

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The giant ant eater is targeted by motorists in regions of Brazil who don't want the creature

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to cross in front of them and give them bad luck.

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If you hit it haven't you crossed its path?

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Not technically.

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You're interrupting its path.

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At one might be more or less spooky I'm not sure.

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I'd probably not want to come across an ant eater more than a black cat anyhow.

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Next up throwing salt over your shoulder.

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Now that may not seem very Halloweeny but I have found most of the superstitions are

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linked back to the paranormal therefore making it Halloweeny.

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This one is very popular European Christian descent.

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Perhaps the next most common superstition at least in the West involves tossing salt

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over one shoulder when you spill it.

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Uh oh what what's the matter?

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You spilled the salt.

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That's what's a matter.

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Spilling the salt is very bad luck.

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This superstition involves the idea of warding off evil.

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In this case the devil himself.

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I guess whoever invented this didn't know that the devil was a generous entrepreneur

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looking to fund churches.

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Unless the superstition came after he was taken advantage of.

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In which case he was a bad dude.

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We've talked about this.

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He was sick of people taking advantage of him.

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And Leonardo da Vinci is the last supper.

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Jesus portrayer.

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Jesus.

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I mean Judas.

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I read that wrong.

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Is portrayed as having accidentally spilled the salt.

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Since Judas was associated with doing something bad the argument goes that ipso facto so was

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salt and throwing it over your shoulder would blind the devil waiting there.

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In other versions of the superstition old scratch which I had to look it up is something

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the devil also goes by.

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He has many nicknames was thought to reside just over your left shoulder ready to tempt

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you the salt was thrown to the left.

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Still others say that the sheer value of salt alone in ancient times led to the belief that

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to spill it was to incur bad fortune requiring a corresponding ritual or act of penance to

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prevent worse loss from occurring.

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Spilling the salt has been considered unlucky for thousands of years around 3500 BC.

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The ancient Sumerians first took to nullifying the bad luck of spilled salt by throwing a

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pinch of it over their left shoulders.

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This ritual spread to the Egyptians the Assyrians and later the Greeks.

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The superstition ultimately that's super interesting because I would think that this would originate

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as a superstition like spilling the salt because salt is absolutely vital to like humans survival

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to counteract spilling salt which is a necessary you get rid of wasting it more.

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I know.

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Yeah.

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That's interesting.

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Yeah.

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The superstition ultimately reflects how people prized and still prized salt as a seasoning

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for food the etymology of the word salary shows how highly we value it.

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According to Panatti I'm not sure who that is.

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I just like the quote.

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A Roman writer Petronius in the satiricon originated not worth his salt as oprogram

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for Roman soldiers who are giving special allowances for salt rations called solarium,

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salt money or the origin of a word salary.

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I also find it interesting because salt is known to be particularly have some magical

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properties it is also something that you use as a form of protection and purification

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properties.

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Would you say it has magical qualities or it's magic nullifying because like generally

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it seems like you want to put salt in areas you don't want things to come via vampires

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or zombies or I guess depending on which culture you're looking at.

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That's exactly right.

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I mean it could go both ways depending on how you look at it as far as purifying it

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has some really good properties for salt therapies as well.

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Oh yeah.

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Well and it's antibacterial because yeah and it's closely tied with the paranormal as

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well so I find that interesting as well.

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I found this one to be particularly interesting throwing salt over your shoulder.

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Next one up broken mirror bringing seven years of bad luck coming again from the ancient

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Greek and Romans in ancient Greece it was common for people to consult mere seers who

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told their fortunes by analyzing their reflections quote divination was performed by means of

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water and a looking glass.

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This was called cat catop romance.

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Ah I think I nailed that one.

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The mirror was dipped into water and a sick person was asked to look into the glass if

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his image appeared distorted he was likely to die if clear he would live.

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It was the ancient Romans however who contributed to the notion that a broken mirror would bring

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seven years of bad luck since it was believed that mirrors can take fragments of our souls

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so only poor health and well-being would cause a mirror to crack and the number seven was

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seen by the Romans as the number of years required to complete a full life cycle of

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sickness and renewal on your soul.

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Basically your soul regenerated every seven years hence the seven years of bad luck to

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regenerate that whole new soul I guess but then they also felt that you could prevent

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a horrible outcome by gathering the broken pieces of the mirror and burying them by the

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moonlight.

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So I also wonder with this as with salt mirrors are kind of seen as potential portals to other

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worlds as well because you're looking at yourself but it's not yourself and it's also seen

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as being able to see into another dimension type of thing.

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So just another type of paranormal thing coming into it as well.

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Next one step on a crack break your mother's back.

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Yes that's a famous superstition one that I think we all heard growing up maybe.

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I'm still wary of cracks.

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I don't want to break my mother's.

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Shouldn't step on them.

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Yep this one is deeply ingrained in me.

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It comes from African and European folklore another superstition involving something cracked

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you're being broken associated with bad luck is the superstition of stepping on a crack

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as foretelling or even causing harm to a family member as with mirrors cracks in the earth

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on a sidewalk or almost anywhere have long been seen as portals to realms of the supernatural

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for both good and ill the step on those cracks might be to invite or release unwelcome spirits

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into the world ready to do one harm.

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Next one saying bless you for sneezes yawning and sneezing were very high risk activities

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according to the Romans and Greeks.

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There are a lot of beliefs about the soul being separate as we have seen come up already

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with the mirror and whatever else I talked about busy I can't recall it all there was

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a staff I yeah when you dream they believe your soul is separate when you break a mirror

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your soul is separate and when you sneeze your soul cannot get back in maybe so saying

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bless you was a way for an outsider to help protect you against losing your soul in a

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freak sneezing accident so I saved one of my favorites for last and it's not really Halloween

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related but we probably can't say this was a good thing this was interesting this is

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a superstition we should bring back because it's not prevalent anymore but I like the

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concept and I find it Halloween related because it's spooky and is a messed up and it just

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like fits perfectly with the Halloween spirit this is called the hand of glory and I found

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it because I was looking up superstitions for Halloween episode because that's what I'm

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talking about right now and I was looking at lucky rabbits foot specifically but obviously

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didn't fit because it's not in this episode but this came up as inspiration for potentially

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why the lucky rabbits foot came to become and bring good luck do you want to take a

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stab at what it is is it monkey paw related it could be I could see it being like a ball

480
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related because they have hands and that sounds like a hand of glory it did start me thinking

481
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:10,120
about monkey paws and if we should do an episode on a monkey that's my best guess okay so the

482
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:15,560
hand of glory is are you ready for it brace like hold on to your chair the dry pickled

483
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:22,400
hand of a hanged man perfectly the left or if the person was hung for murder the hand

484
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,960
that did the deed was the most sought after that seems unlucky in my mind for they were

485
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:36,640
caught it it's the karma balanced out it's very good okay perhaps in their karma I don't

486
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,680
know let's read what I have I feel like it won't give you any answers though but let's

487
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,360
just read and find out all dear p&b leads to tribute great powers to the hand of glory

488
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:51,200
combined with the candle made from the fat of the corpse of the same person who died

489
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:56,000
on the gallows the candle so made lighted and place this is written in weird English

490
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so yeah I didn't write this latest so but I will continue on the candle so made lighted

491
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:09,760
and placed as if it in a candlestick in the hand of glory would be have rendered motionless

492
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,920
all persons to whom it was presented a process for preparing the hand and the candle are

493
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:20,680
described in 18th century documents the concept inspired short stories and poems in the 19th

494
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,200
century the candle could be put out only with milk in another version the hair of the dead

495
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:30,600
man is used as the wick and the candle would get light only to the holder the hand of glory

496
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:36,680
also purportedly had the power to unlock any door it came across anyhow it said that the

497
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,840
lucky yeah do you have to like pick the door with the hand or is it just like you put it

498
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:47,400
on the knob and it just like turn in my like mind's eye I just envision like presenting

499
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:54,080
the hand to the door and it like flies open okay is how I picture it there's no details

500
00:29:54,080 --> 00:30:00,120
so we just have to let our imagination do the thinking on it's else okay and I'm just

501
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,040
like if that's what it's useful for then why isn't it like a thief's hand like I don't

502
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,520
understand how a murderer's hand would be able to open the door compared to a thief's

503
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,320
hand because the thief's hand should know how to do it no you're right it from muscle memory

504
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:19,680
of course yeah no that does not work I assume they did the work only there it's got to be

505
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,720
based on something yeah yeah it's only this like I said it said that the lucky rabbit's

506
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:31,000
foot was connected to the hand of glory maybe inspired because like making hands was going

507
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,440
out of style well and you know those murderous and criminal rabbits that were constantly

508
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,320
hanging there was just a surplus of rabbits feet due to this yeah this one isn't really

509
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:48,080
like superstitious related in retrospect but superstition led me here so I stand by my choice

510
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:54,280
don't judge the process and I feel like this is somewhat a trope in like Halloween decorations

511
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,640
is hands holding candles and I always just kind of assumed that that was kind of just

512
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:04,080
like for the creepiness but it could be inspired by this it could be apparently it makes his

513
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:09,280
way into pop culture a lot more than I ever suspected because I've never heard of this

514
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:14,640
but there is a whole thing and yet it and it has to do a lot or at least I see a lot

515
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,640
of similarities in like the left hand being the evil hand as well and that's the hand

516
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:25,320
that you take yeah as we see in the evil dead was it his left hand yeah idle hand as well

517
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,280
I'm pretty sure it's his left hand I'm trying to think of anything else what about it where

518
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,560
is it thing and Adam Stanley I wonder if that's a left hand it's a good question I bet it

519
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,400
is that's a very good question somebody let us know well I do find a lot of these interesting

520
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,600
and you see a lot of these showing up in other cultures as well just slightly different is

521
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,480
fun as well like there's unlucky numbers and basically every culture when you look at it

522
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,640
from the Asian perspective it's more so the numbers that sound like death like the word

523
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,880
they have for death in those languages that end up being the unlucky ones and you shouldn't

524
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,240
give gifts in that number and then you see the westernization of those countries as well

525
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,880
and now they're starting to adopt 13 is an unlucky number so there's just like a whole

526
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:10,360
array of numbers you have to avoid when building buildings yes there was one that came up in

527
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,240
Japan that's the number four I have it written here yeah the thing I was gonna say is the

528
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:21,400
hand glory also comes up in Harry Potter oh yeah I just had to say that because I remembered

529
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:27,040
what I was gonna say I just want to put in some honorable mentions quickly for some quick

530
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,880
Halloweeny superstitions cemetery superstitions if you hold your breath while you drive by

531
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,640
a cemetery evil spirits can enter your body when passing a graveyard or a house where

532
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,880
someone has died you turn your pockets inside out to make sure you don't bring home ghosts

533
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,320
in your pocket there's an old superstition that says the body which is put in the first

534
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,120
grave dug in a new graveyard is always claimed by the devil don't lay in a coffin unless

535
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:55,240
you're dead of course or it is said that anyone who lies in a coffin even for fun is inviting

536
00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:00,000
death and that no item of clothing belonging to a living person should ever be placed on

537
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,760
a corpse when it is placed in a coffin or as it rots in the grave so will the rightful

538
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:10,600
owner decline towards death don't forget to feed knockers and cornwall when eating a yummy

539
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:16,040
cornish pasty a folded pastry with meat and vegetables inside you throw the ends away

540
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:22,160
to the knockers who are mischievous spirits that live in the mines be careful at a crossroads

541
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:27,120
on halloween or a disembodied spirit was thought to be sitting there on all hallows

542
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:32,680
eve to get you don't eat blackberries on halloween it's said to be evil to eat blackberries

543
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:39,240
on halloween let's just end it with the cemeteries and laying in a coffin and that

544
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:45,040
is it be subscribed to any of these superstitions taylor see I would say no but there's a lot

545
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,640
that are subconscious where you kind of just do it like even driving through tunnels like

546
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:55,960
I'll hold my breath I don't know about graveyards for say but definitely tunnels yeah like

547
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,640
it's something that you've learned since you were a kid so it's just ingrained in you

548
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:07,280
to keep it easier to yeah yeah like I'm totally having to struggle in your mind with that like

549
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:13,480
logically this makes no sense yeah and I totally avoid cracks on the sidewalks yeah as much

550
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,920
as I hate to admit that well and yeah whenever I hear somebody sneeze like it's just polite

551
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,720
to say bless you and make sure that their soul remains within well of course it's impolite

552
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:27,840
not to what if their soul gets out and can't get back in no and that's just something you

553
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:33,920
don't want to see as a soul about you could also attribute it to OCD doing things like

554
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:39,880
this yeah but I don't know I think they're so weird I think he probably heard of all

555
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,560
of them that's kind of where a lot of them came from and why they're done and it's so

556
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:49,560
funny that I'm avoiding cracks to this day and it's something that came from so long

557
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,280
ago yeah because it all of these are in green so early it's something that you generally

558
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,480
don't really think about where they come from yeah no not at all you just sometimes there's

559
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:04,800
not even answers like Friday the 13th it's just yeah that's the unlucky day just so that's

560
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:11,120
it I hope I mean a little bit more spooky or at least compulsive exactly and maybe I just

561
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,800
clarified your Halloween for you a little yeah in any event don't think about it just

562
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,080
enjoy your stitions of the super varietal and in the meantime I have been Taylor here with

563
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Chelsea we are Journey to the Fringe thank you all for listening and we'll see you next

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