1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,320 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe. 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:18,440 Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, now with different words in different orders. 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,960 Most people would say that they have a new episode, but it's more fun to say it this 4 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:22,960 way. 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:28,320 We are your word-friendly hosts, Taylor and Chelsea, and today we are following up from 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,720 last week's episode on what's going on with Britney Spears. 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,680 So where we left off, she had been freed from her conservatorship, correct Chelsea? 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,400 It was basically where we left off. 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,400 No? 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,400 We went a little further? 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:41,400 No, she wasn't free. 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,400 No, she wasn't free. 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,080 Where we left off, I think I'll talk about it. 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Okay. 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,080 Well, otherwise you're going in blind. 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,720 There's a conservatorship involved, and I will get out that other part so that it's 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,960 just a conservatorship that she is still under. 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,000 I say right here. 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,760 So last week, we looked basically at the conservatorship itself that Britney Spears 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:00,760 was in. 21 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,760 A couple key points to bring forth with you into this episode. 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,160 You probably listened to that a week ago. 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,720 So first point, there is someone in charge of her conservatorship that she had expressed 24 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:16,640 that she did not want in charge multiple times and had shown extreme control over her, even 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,080 abuse over her corroborated by many other people. 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,200 That was her dad, Jamie Spears. 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,200 Time out for a second. 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,200 Taylor? 29 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,560 Is that an Instagram login? 30 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,200 I do not know. 31 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,080 Can you see if you can figure out the journey to the fringe login? 32 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,360 I sent you the link to her Instagram. 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,520 I'm pretty sure I could see it if I go there. 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,800 You just need the first couple of posts anyway. 35 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:40,800 Okay. 36 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,720 Second point, there are questions about whether or not a conservatorship was an extreme option 37 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,320 for her situation. 38 00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:52,520 Eardley, secretively being checked into a mental health facility for months with no end in 39 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,920 sight until the free Brittany movement came about. 40 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:01,760 And TMZ releasing a story with a lie about how long she was in that mental health facility. 41 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,840 That's all very vague, but hopefully that refreshes your memory from the last episode 42 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,520 and we continue on from there. 43 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,240 So basically we learned a lot of troublesome things in that last episode. 44 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:16,680 We left off with posts being made on Brittany Spears' Instagram by someone else to kind 45 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,720 of set up that mental health state on her social media. 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,640 And it's now coming under a magnifying glass being her social media. 47 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:29,640 And her fans are now worrying about her safety and what's going on because posts are being 48 00:02:29,640 --> 00:02:34,680 made on her behalf to make it seem like she just checked into this mental health facility 49 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,760 last week when she's been there for months with no end in sight. 50 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,440 Especially that we see someone else posting on her Instagram. 51 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:43,680 That's clearly not her. 52 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:49,360 Here's as good as places any to say that there's a lot of information on this out there. 53 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:54,200 If you want to go down a rabbit hole in order to get through this in a nice timely episode 54 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,840 for you, I had to pick and choose and summarize just like all of our episodes. 55 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:04,840 By all means, if you really want to go down this rabbit hole yourself, I did rely on some 56 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,320 Tik Tokers for this. 57 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,040 So there's one called it's Brittany Glitch. 58 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,040 Her handles Ali Nastin. 59 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,520 Then there's I Detective and not Brian Fallon. 60 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,320 So those are what I use going down the rabbit hole. 61 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:22,600 Feel free if you want to spend hours looking into this and seeing the actual videos, which 62 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,280 you're not going to see on a podcast. 63 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,440 Oh, check those ones out. 64 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,440 Highly recommend. 65 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,960 Now, what the mental health facility fans are concerned, Brittany put on a pretty good 66 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,800 face through many years of her conservatorship and kept pretty low key doing her biggest 67 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:36,800 residency. 68 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:37,880 She was on TV shows. 69 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,120 She looked amazing. 70 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,720 Her Instagram with normal for a while. 71 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,480 In 2021, she's doing like a Q&A on her Instagram. 72 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,400 And one of the questions she answers is, are you okay? 73 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,320 And her body language is totally off on this. 74 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,280 She's shifting back and forth totally anxious. 75 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,120 And she says in quotes, I'm totally fine. 76 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,560 I'm extremely happy. 77 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,920 I have a beautiful home, beautiful children. 78 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,080 I'm taking a break right now because I'm enjoying myself and I'm okay. 79 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,400 Body language totally off. 80 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,840 That was an end quote, not with the body language, ending with I'm okay. 81 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:16,320 She later confessed that she was lying about that and obviously forced to say this. 82 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,520 She said, quote, I've lied and told the whole world I'm okay and I'm happy. 83 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,680 I've been in denial. 84 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,280 I've been in shock and I'm traumatized. 85 00:04:24,280 --> 00:04:25,280 End quote. 86 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:29,720 That admission combined with the post about her mental health stay led many fans to believe 87 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,920 that Spears have been sending secret messages to them all along, specifically through her 88 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,320 social media, which at the time were unsure if she's even controlling. 89 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:45,640 So a couple months later, she posts a video thanking her LGBTQ fans in the video, a concerned 90 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,800 fan comments, quote, if you need help, wear yellow in your next video. 91 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,800 End quote. 92 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:51,800 Do you remember hearing about this? 93 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:52,800 This was huge. 94 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:53,800 I do. 95 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:54,800 Yes. 96 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:55,800 It was. 97 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,800 If you're familiar at all with any Britney Spears conspiracies, it's probably this one. 98 00:04:58,800 --> 00:04:59,800 It's the yellow. 99 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:00,800 Yeah. 100 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:01,800 Yeah. 101 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,720 In the next TikTok video, sure as shit, Britney is wearing a yellow top and even mentions 102 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,440 the yellow top in her caption, which immediately blew up the internet. 103 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:12,440 What next? 104 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,360 Well, to be sure, her fans asked her to wear a blue shirt in her next video. 105 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,480 You know, test the theory, coincidence or no. 106 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,760 Next video, blue shirt. 107 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,760 Then there's another one where they say blink three times or something like that if you 108 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:25,760 need help. 109 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,960 Next video, three blinks. 110 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:33,560 Now people are looking at every single post she's making of Scrabble board. 111 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,000 She posts like a picture of a Scrabble board. 112 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,920 People are trying to decode what it is saying in this Scrabble board and she's making posts 113 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,960 such as a shot of herself wearing a sheer black lacy top alongside the caption, twisted 114 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:52,720 elegance, introducing all caps, red exclamation mark exclamation mark exclamation mark exclamation 115 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:53,720 mark. 116 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,160 Now you go and look at Britney's Instagram right now that I told you to take a look at 117 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:04,560 just to show you she definitely hides things in there for people to decode and people could 118 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:09,040 be like, well, this is just like how many people are commenting on her videos. 119 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,960 Like why would she go comb through and pick just one comment? 120 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,440 If you're being so controlled, I mean, I can see it from a couple different views like 121 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,640 one, of course, that's preposterous. 122 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:20,960 Who would ever do that? 123 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,680 But if you're so controlled as we have seen with Britney Spears being controlled through 124 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:31,840 her conservatorship and you're looking for anything to send a sign that you need help, 125 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:33,280 I don't put it past. 126 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:35,400 I can't completely knock it. 127 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:40,040 So if you go look at her Instagram, you'll see that her name and I'm bringing this up 128 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,520 now because of the quote that I just read, she says, twisted elegance, introducing red, 129 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,200 no red at all in the shot. 130 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,480 What's Britney Spears' name there at the top on her bio? 131 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,880 Maria River Red. 132 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:56,520 And then if you go through the fourth post, is that the red piano? 133 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,520 Yeah. 134 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,520 Can you read the caption? 135 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,240 It says, I've never played on red exclamation mark red all caps. 136 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,040 Yeah, go to the next one. 137 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,040 Remember Rose? 138 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,120 Three year old, never seen before photos of Rose. 139 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,120 Time flies. 140 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,120 Geez. 141 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,400 Do you see a hint of red or Rose or anything in that picture? 142 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:18,760 No, she's wearing a white top, necklace, no color, and it's background trees. 143 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:19,760 Yeah. 144 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,960 So she hides things like this in her Instagram all the time. 145 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,720 No context or anything with the red. 146 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,440 It's referring to something. 147 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,920 I just wanted to point that out because this is all on her Instagram now. 148 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,440 She's famous for deleting posts and stuff like that, reusing posts. 149 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,600 So I just wanted to point that out on there. 150 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,520 The one with remember Rose. 151 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,280 This is an old photo of her under her conservatorship, but I just wanted to point this out to you. 152 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,280 I'm not going to go in. 153 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,120 I don't know what red means anyhow. 154 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,640 Britney doesn't clarify what the red is at all. 155 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,440 She just keeps referring to it. 156 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:58,320 Like I said, she uploads this one of her in a sheer black lacy top alongside that caption, 157 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,080 with elegance introducing red. 158 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,080 She doesn't clarify. 159 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,680 Instead, she uploads a video of herself in the same outfit, captioning it, no lipstick, 160 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,680 blush, or foundation, because I was in a rush, but you get the idea. 161 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:10,680 Red. 162 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,160 So everyone's trying to scramble to find out what the red is meaning. 163 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,320 And she's not even wearing red in the video. 164 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,840 The only thing, there's nothing red in the one that I just showed to you. 165 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,060 She's changed her name to Maria River Red. 166 00:08:22,060 --> 00:08:24,320 There is red on the piano one. 167 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,040 Literally so many of her posts are cryptic like that. 168 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,000 And that's just what I'm trying to drive. 169 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,040 It's the cryptic point of these. 170 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,280 These are a few examples. 171 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,640 It goes on and on. 172 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,680 Fans are convinced Britney Spears is trying to reach out to her fans via social media 173 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:43,280 to convey hidden messages in her cryptic posts, convinced that she's otherwise silenced. 174 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,280 And this is the only way she's able to communicate that she needs help. 175 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,520 Might I just say I'm going through a bit of her posts and there's some weird stuff in 176 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:52,520 here. 177 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,520 Oh, it's off the hook. 178 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,520 Yeah. 179 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,800 There's a book called Doctor and Ritual of High Magic, a new translation, and she wrote 180 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,400 something in another language as the caption on that. 181 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:03,400 Oh, right here. 182 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,400 Yeah. 183 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,400 Oh yeah. 184 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:10,800 This is not even resembling anything like what we saw her doing under the conservatorship. 185 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,720 And a lot of people will say this is because she's free. 186 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,360 She's trying to find herself. 187 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,240 She's trying to figure it out. 188 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,720 She's off her meds. 189 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,400 She's, you know, having mental problems. 190 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:29,240 And if we look at it in the way of she's not in control of her Instagram or she's trying 191 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:35,600 to send messages through this thing, if you look at it through a different filter, it 192 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,800 kind of changes the context in which you're taking in her Instagram. 193 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,560 So just something to think of. 194 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:45,040 Because if you're looking at through Britney's Mentally Ill or something like that, you're 195 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,000 like, wow, this is off the hook crazy. 196 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,160 But if you're looking at it in a different way of someone else controlling it or she's 197 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,600 trying to send messages or something like that, you take it in a completely different 198 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:56,600 context. 199 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:57,800 Let's move on. 200 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,920 Another thing that kind of adds to this is she never openly came out and said, I hate 201 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:03,920 this. 202 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:04,920 I'm being threatened. 203 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:05,920 I need help. 204 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,800 She was coming out with videos that said, hey, I'm okay. 205 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,200 I'm happier than ever. 206 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,120 And we all know now that it was a lie. 207 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,120 That wasn't the case. 208 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:18,320 I mean, she very well could have come out and said that she has a huge platform, not 209 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,960 only on social media, but she could have gone on stage one night and said to hundreds of 210 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,480 people, I need help. 211 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,480 Somebody help me right now. 212 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,520 I'm in danger. 213 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,720 And she never did that. 214 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,160 So cut to 2021. 215 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,560 The free Britney movement actually accomplished something. 216 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:34,640 And that was that the conservatorship is over. 217 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:40,200 This is a direct result of that mental health stay where somebody else posted on her behalf. 218 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,640 That's kind of what raised the red flags. 219 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,560 And the conservatorship's over. 220 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:45,560 Britney's free. 221 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:51,200 So is it because the conservatorship is not actually really over? 222 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:56,920 And you can only find a little information about this if you specifically know what to 223 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:57,920 Google. 224 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,200 This was not really in the news. 225 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,920 If you Google Britney Spears conservatorship not really over, you get Britney Spears is 226 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:04,920 free. 227 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:11,640 What ended was the conservatorship over her person and Jamie Spears was taken out of the 228 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,800 person in charge of her conservatorship, whatever it's called. 229 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:15,800 Yeah. 230 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:22,200 So she still has a conservatorship over her estate and she's moved over from the conservatorship 231 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,280 of her person to a care plan. 232 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,760 And that's to help her kind of acclimatized no longer having someone control of her life, 233 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,000 which usually lasts about 12 months from what is out there. 234 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,400 But it's still ongoing. 235 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,240 She's still under a care plan. 236 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,040 There are some people who speak out about this. 237 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,160 It's really hard to find to see that she's still under a care plan. 238 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:50,920 And there are actually a lot of loopholes for her to jump through to have the rest of her 239 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,480 conservatorship stop to go through the courts and stuff like that. 240 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,800 Are the obstacles at least known or is that kind of private? 241 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,800 It's private. 242 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:00,800 Yeah. 243 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,440 So everything that's going on right now is private. 244 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:08,240 Liz Day, who is a reporter for the New York Times, I believe. 245 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,640 I should have put that in, but that's a memory if memory serves me right. 246 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:17,120 She covers a little about this after Jamie Spears is removed as a conservatorship. 247 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,200 This is old. 248 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,600 So this isn't going to have all the up to date information, but it really gives you 249 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,120 an idea of what's going on. 250 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,840 So this is just some of the tweets she was putting out just so you can see how this evolved. 251 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:34,800 So she tweets, Jamie Spears lawyer is asking the court to force whistleblower Alex Vlasov 252 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:40,120 to hand over evidence of Jamie and Black Fox security surveillance of Britney Spears during 253 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,880 her conservatorship. 254 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:47,960 Last year, Vlasov went public in an NYT investigation alleging that Jamie and his security firm 255 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:53,120 ran an intense surveillance operation that spied on Britney's texts in real time and 256 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,360 secretly recorded her in her bedroom. 257 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,960 He shared texts, emails and recordings to back up his claims. 258 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,840 A few days later, Jamie was suspended as Britney's conservator. 259 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:08,360 Then after the judge terminated the conservatorship completely, a move Jamie had first requested, 260 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,200 but the court case wasn't over. 261 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,720 Both sides are still fighting over money. 262 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:17,440 Britney's lawyer Matthew Rosengart publicly promised his firm would do a deep investigation 263 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,640 into the conservatorship, including whether Britney's money was mismanaged. 264 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,840 Headlines proclaimed Britney was on a mission to get justice. 265 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,000 Then the general public stopped paying his close attention. 266 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,960 Britney got a new lawyer, Alex Weingarten, who promptly filed for Britney to pay his ongoing 267 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:33,960 legal fees. 268 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:40,280 Rosengart filed an objection called the E-Baddy Declaration, a baddy, which summarized Jamie's 269 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:45,760 misconduct, heavily citing Vlasov's surveillance claims as why Britney shouldn't have to pay. 270 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:50,480 As part of his investigation, Rosengart filed subpoenas to Jamie and Britney's former business 271 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:55,440 manager TriStar about potential financial mismanagement and electronic surveillance. 272 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,200 TriStar filed to block the subpoenas. 273 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,760 A court hearing was set for July 2022, nine months later, in response, Jamie filed to 274 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,520 depose Britney to ask about child safety and possible drug use. 275 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,560 Per Make Note of This TMZ. 276 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:10,560 TMZ is reporting about this. 277 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:11,720 And they came up before. 278 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,720 They do. 279 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:13,720 They will come up again. 280 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,920 This set off a flurry of filings as Jamie and Britney tried to force each other's depots. 281 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:19,920 What's a depot? 282 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,920 Deposition. 283 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:21,920 Like a statement? 284 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:27,480 No, depositions are where you get questioned by the other party and their lawyers. 285 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:33,280 In July, the judge said Jamie must be deposed, not Britney, a big win for Britney. 286 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:34,280 Oh, okay. 287 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,280 Maybe they mean deposed then. 288 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,280 Sorry. 289 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,280 Not deposition. 290 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,280 They do mean deposed. 291 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,280 Yeah. 292 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:40,280 It's Twitter, so they're short. 293 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,720 It's not full comments. 294 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:42,720 Yes. 295 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:47,840 Jamie also tried to get Britney's investigative files, including Vlasov's recordings from 296 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,880 Kroll, but that got denied too. 297 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,440 Weingarten filed appeals to the court, but the court has not ruled yet. 298 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,080 He also wants to unseal certain records, he said defend Jamie. 299 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,920 Jamie was deposed in August. 300 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,960 Soon after, TMZ reported on settlement talks claiming Rosengart offered to end things 301 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,560 for 7 million, but tri-star in Jamie ball. 302 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:11,280 Presumably, whatever amount they ultimately settled for would come in exchange for Britney 303 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,000 giving up the right to sue for anything related to the conservatorship. 304 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,840 But to number 24 marked one year since the whistleblower went public and important legal 305 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,320 deadlines expired. 306 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,240 Statutes of limitations for criminal prosecution have essentially passed. 307 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,720 I've asked all levels of law enforcement and there's no indication of an investigation 308 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,720 being pursued. 309 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:36,800 It was also the deadline for Britney or others to file a separate civil lawsuit against Jamie 310 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,480 slash BBX for invasion of privacy. 311 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:45,560 California law allows for 5k penalty for each text, which given the huge trove of texts 312 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,320 in Vlasov's evidence could have amounted to many millions. 313 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:56,080 A few days ago, the judge ruled tri-star execs Lou Taylor and Robin Greenhill must be deposed, 314 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,240 including about surveillance. 315 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:06,880 But in big win for tri-star, she limited discovery to only be about the 12th accounting, i.e. 316 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:12,080 how Britney's money was spent in 2019, not any of the 10 years prior. 317 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:17,840 Britney's team argued tri-star's financial books lacked crucial backups such as invoices 318 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,280 and cash receipts, including to explain why payments were made to tri-star, claims it 319 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,560 still hasn't gotten a direct answer on how much money tri-star made. 320 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,720 They wanted text emails about tri-star's conservatorship work. 321 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:37,520 Also alleged tri-star produced only the net income of her tours, not gross revenues, i.e. 322 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:43,040 how much Britney was left after expenses, not how much money her work generated overall. 323 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,440 Cited emails suggesting some expenses may have been paid outside the estate and court 324 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,440 oversight. 325 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,760 However, the judge ruled that Britney can't just reopen the financial books, i.e. how 326 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:59,720 her money was spent in 2008 to 2018, unless Rosengart raises evidence of extrinsic fraud 327 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,440 in the prior accounting that had been approved by Britney's old lawyers and others. 328 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,400 But a 2019 email suggests Britney's then lawyer, Sam Ingram, apparently may not have fully 329 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,520 known who was making what percent off Britney, which raises the question of how good was 330 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,520 his information. 331 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,920 Limiting discovery to the 12th accounting is a big deal because the amount of money in 332 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,760 dispute that Britney could get back is not a lot. 333 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:26,680 300k raised to tri-star after Britney went on work strike, 150k in legal fees when Lou 334 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:32,760 Taylor sued a fan, 80k accounting fee, tri-star got after Vegas was cancelled, 600k is not 335 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,440 a lot, everyone on all sides has almost certainly spent more on legal fees at this point. 336 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,880 Britney could file more objections, but all the current objections of alleged financial 337 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,200 mismanagement during the 12th accounting were found by Sam Ingram, not Rosengart. 338 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,240 Back to Alex Vlasov in August after being blocked from getting them from Britney and 339 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:56,160 Kroll, Wangart subpoenaed Vlasov for the recordings and other evidence of alleged illegal spying. 340 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:02,000 Vlasov's lawyer opposed and part invoking his 5th amendment right against self-incrimination. 341 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:07,040 So Wangart is now asking the court to force Vlasov to hand over all recordings texts to 342 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:12,080 support his claims and all docs related to Britney or Jamie including any with Britney's 343 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,560 lawyers, Kroll or PR agencies. 344 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:19,160 So that's a lot of things that were kind of going on legally. 345 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,240 That's after conservatorship was supposed to have ended too. 346 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,720 That was right after, yep. 347 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,760 Yeah, that's clearly not the end of it and there's clearly something else going on with 348 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,000 her money before she actually gets it. 349 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:36,080 Yep, and not only that, but you're seeing deadlines for things kind of expiring for 350 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,160 her to be able to take legal action and you're seeing- 351 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,880 Yeah, because there's statutes of limitations which are usually about two years from when 352 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:48,680 an event took place unless, like they said, and sorry, this is, I don't know US law perfectly, 353 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,560 so I don't know the actual limitation periods there, but if it's extreme fraud, like clearly 354 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,440 forgeries and whatnot, then there's a different statute of limitations that would impact it 355 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,000 and that's what they're arguing over. 356 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,800 Now, I don't know where that ever ended. 357 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,080 I couldn't really find it and you would think that I would be? 358 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,560 Yeah, so that's kind of, I just wanted to bring that up. 359 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,720 You see a lot of names. 360 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,320 I don't actually know if this expired and she never followed up anything on it legally 361 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,320 or what. 362 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,800 Kelsey, do you know the dates that those tweets are actually regarding? 363 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,960 Yeah, let me see if I can find it. 364 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:31,400 Just because it's not uncommon for lawsuits to go on for years and years and it sounds 365 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:36,680 like my guess would be at least 2020 or later, likely 2021, which would mean we're still 366 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:37,680 within the wheelhouse. 367 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,320 Yeah, I think it was 2021. 368 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,280 I thought I had the link here, right here, Liz Day. 369 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,240 Yeah, and that's particularly with like- 370 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,240 October 14, 2022. 371 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,240 Okay, so it's still ongoing. 372 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:54,360 Okay, still ongoing, like it's less than a year since that happened, so it's likely 373 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:55,360 still ongoing. 374 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:59,120 Yeah, so there's all this stuff trying to fight to get her dad on there and they're 375 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:01,040 obviously fighting it tooth and nail. 376 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,920 So yeah, I wanted you to see that the legal battle is still going on. 377 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:11,760 The big names in this, this is TriStar, this is Lou Taylor, a lot of money, well not a 378 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,840 lot of money, but in the end they took a lot of money from her. 379 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,880 So yeah, there's a lot with that going on. 380 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,880 Brittany has a lot to be outspoken about and she has said that she was going to make everyone 381 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,560 pay and she was going to do an interview to expose what was done to her, but she hadn't 382 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,800 exactly done that. 383 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,960 As a matter of fact, she's been rather quiet on the subject. 384 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,640 She did get a book deal, which is a whole other thing. 385 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,580 I didn't get the chance to even touch on that. 386 00:20:37,580 --> 00:20:40,960 There are a lot of things going on around the book deal as well. 387 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,560 If you want to look at that, maybe in the future we'll do another follow up on Britney Spears, 388 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:46,560 but- 389 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,560 I believe October. 390 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,640 There's a lot of talk on it, just to touch on it quickly. 391 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,920 Even the name of it, The Woman and Me, that's a Shania Twain song. 392 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,080 It's not even one of Britney Spears' song. 393 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,280 There's a lot going on with the picture that he used of her on that. 394 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,200 It's wearing very shiny pants and no top, even herself a hug from inside. 395 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,280 It's from a music video and I'm trying to remember what music video they took it from. 396 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,720 It's a young Brittany on there. 397 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,200 The book actually kept getting delayed and delayed to come out. 398 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,080 I have a feeling and a lot of people have a feeling that it's- 399 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,760 It will get delayed again. 400 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,640 It might get delayed again, but it's not going to be probably the story that she wants to 401 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,640 tell. 402 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:31,400 I have a feeling because if it's the one that she wants to tell, trust me, Lou Taylor and 403 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:37,240 these lawyers would not be having that book come out if it's the story that she wants to 404 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,240 tell. 405 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,760 I just want to make sure I understand this. 406 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,520 Tristar is an agency, right? 407 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,520 Yes. 408 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,520 I believe Star. 409 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,960 I was looking at Tristar Sports and Entertainment and Lou Taylor is the CEO. 410 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,880 A woman, just so we're on the same page when we're thinking about it. 411 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:52,880 Oh, is it? 412 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:53,880 Louise Marie Taylor, yes. 413 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,440 Oh, I thought it was a boy. 414 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,440 Okay. 415 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,840 I guess that doesn't really change anything. 416 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,480 That's just a quick thing on the book. 417 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,120 I mean, there's lots if you want to go check out those Tik Tokers. 418 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:06,840 They have represented people such as Gwen Stefani, Reba McIntyre. 419 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,320 Yeah, they're huge. 420 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,320 Yeah. 421 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,440 Jennifer Lopez, Steven Tyler. 422 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,440 They're huge, yeah. 423 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,320 Of course, they're in charge of Brittany Spears. 424 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,760 I'm sure you're wondering, where is this leading? 425 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,360 And boy, was it a long set up, you guys. 426 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:23,160 This is where it gets good if you're here for the conspiracy theory. 427 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,840 According to new ish conspiracy theories, they're getting on in years now, but fans 428 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,720 believe that Brittany is being silenced and that she is either missing under a psychiatric 429 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,760 hold again or something like that or dead, whether natural causes or not, and has been 430 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:44,400 replaced by not only AI and deep fake technology, but also has a body double operating with 431 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,880 or without the deep fake technology when public appearances need to be made. 432 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,320 When it's been too long and people are like, we haven't seen Brittany in a while. 433 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,320 Where is she? 434 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,360 They'll send the body double out. 435 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:57,240 She did say her dad was trying to kill her after all. 436 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:02,480 I find this one intriguing because some of the so-called evidence of this conspiracy 437 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:09,240 theory are super creepy and a little compelling, giving the setup that I've given you. 438 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,840 Let's take a look at some points towards why people are thinking these crazy things. 439 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,840 First, this is short and sweet. 440 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,360 Let's take a look at the evidence for points towards Brittany Spears being dead first. 441 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:23,840 First one is a prepared Brittany Spears obituary that was leaked. 442 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,600 Word leaked out that one of the major press agencies have prepared an obituary for Brittany 443 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,600 Spears. 444 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:33,600 I don't find too crazy because with technology these days, most outlets will have obituaries 445 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,080 ready to go for big stars, especially ones acting crazy. 446 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,840 They want them out there the second they catch it. 447 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,960 And like you've seen before, like this isn't even a new thing, but celebrities, like as 448 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:49,120 soon as they die, having their obituary out or mistakenly have been identified as dead, 449 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:51,240 having their obituary out and it's really weird. 450 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:56,160 Their famous quotes from Mark Twain, tales of my demise have been greatly exaggerated, 451 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,580 was because that there was an obituary out there of him. 452 00:23:58,580 --> 00:24:04,240 And the Nobel Prize was created because Alfred Nobel read his obituary because people thought 453 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,680 he had died and he created dynamite. 454 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,560 So they basically said the death merchant has finally died. 455 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:14,040 So he felt terrible about his legacy and created the Nobel Prize. 456 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,720 That's some good facts right there. 457 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,720 I didn't know that. 458 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:17,720 Yeah. 459 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,680 So that one I don't find too crazy because they don't want to waste time. 460 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:26,000 You're behind if you're even hesitating a second with an obituary and someone has died, 461 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,320 especially with social media. 462 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,320 One that's a little more compelling, I'm going to send you this link. 463 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,720 It's a legal document that says deceased. 464 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,680 And who might be deceased? 465 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,440 It is a legal document showing Britney Spears deceased. 466 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,120 That her conservators labeled her as deceased in court documents. 467 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:48,880 That's kind of where the proof of where people point to that Britney Spears is dead. 468 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,720 That's all I got for Britney Spears is dead, but I mean that she's labeled deceased on 469 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,120 court documents is not nothing. 470 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,480 It's also a screenshot of a document. 471 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,000 You don't even see the whole document unfortunately. 472 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,680 That's just one place you can find it. 473 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,800 If you Google, you can find it other places. 474 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,800 Okay. 475 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,680 That was just for the sake of me being able to send these. 476 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,440 I don't actually know if you can see the whole document anywhere else on the internet. 477 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,240 But like there's many things that are apparently wrong with this document. 478 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,240 Like there's. 479 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,240 Oh really? 480 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,240 Well, just look at it. 481 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,760 The case number is crossed out as being mentioned as incorrect. 482 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,720 Something is crossed out as void in the bottom right. 483 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,360 The judge has been crossed out. 484 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:25,360 Yeah. 485 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:26,360 I never. 486 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:27,600 There's a bunch of things that are weird about this document. 487 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,200 Oh, here's the whole document. 488 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,200 Here's the whole document. 489 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,200 Oh yeah. 490 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,200 There's a lot. 491 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,200 It's void. 492 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,200 It was filed October 9th. 493 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,200 Okay. 494 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,200 Void. 495 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,480 I assume it's not normal that all these things are crossed out in void. 496 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,480 No. 497 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,520 And if you read the court document was labeled Britney Spears is deceased was a copy from 498 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,880 a Michael Jackson case based on the case number in the corner. 499 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,880 Huh? 500 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,880 Yeah. 501 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,480 So it appears that it's a, I would say that that's a mistake on the printing where it 502 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,000 just seems to like mesh two things together. 503 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,360 So it's not even for breaking a court document that once labeled Britney Spears is deceased 504 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,600 was literally copied from Michael. 505 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,600 What? 506 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,600 Yeah. 507 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,600 That's super weird. 508 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,600 Copied from Michael Jackson's. 509 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,640 I'm leaning towards based on the information in here that there's an error inherent to 510 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,640 this document. 511 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,880 There's so many things crossed out and it's saying that this is a cross between a Michael 512 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,000 Jackson case that leads me to believe that this isn't factual in many ways. 513 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,000 Okay. 514 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,000 Okay. 515 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Let's just move on then. 516 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Yeah. 517 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,920 I'm glad we have someone able to really look at this though. 518 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,120 So those are what we have for Britney Spears being dead. 519 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:31,640 I'm not convinced of Britney Spears being dead after looking into this. 520 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,640 She's probably alive. 521 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,920 She's probably in trouble based on what I'm going through. 522 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,920 But yeah, let's move on. 523 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,000 Those are the points for the dead. 524 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,560 So make your own decisions based on that. 525 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,720 But dead or alive. 526 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,280 People think Britney is missing or in trouble. 527 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,000 Just what is compelling people to ask where is Britney? 528 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,560 So I'm going to start with my own wonderings. 529 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,520 If you go back, I don't know if you still have Instagram open. 530 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,520 I do. 531 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,520 Yes. 532 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,080 Just click on the third post, the video. 533 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,440 This person looks not like the Britney Spears I remember. 534 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,640 Britney Spears had like perfect teeth. 535 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,120 This looks shocking. 536 00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:07,080 First of all, when I started seeing her come out on this Instagram. 537 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,360 I am just going to say because I haven't outside of these episodes thought about Britney Spears 538 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:14,160 much in the last 20 years or so. 539 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,760 Which is perfect to get your weighing in on this. 540 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,760 Yeah. 541 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,760 I would say like, I don't know. 542 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,000 I don't know the way she looks like. 543 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,880 She looks like she's aged. 544 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,480 I would definitely say that. 545 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,200 But I wouldn't say that it wouldn't be Britney. 546 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,360 If I was just come across Britney Spears on Instagram and to see this, I'd be like, okay, 547 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:29,360 Britney's dancing. 548 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:34,400 And there's no real non-movement parts to actually say like, down and analyze if that's 549 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,600 a different person, nor would I unless you were actually to bring this up to me. 550 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,600 So I don't know. 551 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,720 I would say it's Britney, but I'm going to share this one to you. 552 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,320 This one I find to be a very creepy video. 553 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,120 I don't know if you can actually watch it. 554 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,720 I'm just going to Google Britney Spears. 555 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,640 Not even Britney Spears young. 556 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,120 Let's go Britney Spears Las Vegas residency. 557 00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:57,400 You have that video there? 558 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,400 Oh yeah. 559 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,400 No, that is. 560 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,400 That's a creepy video, right? 561 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,400 Yeah. 562 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,440 It looks like it's been like a two week bender of some kind that she's been on. 563 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,840 She's not looking great. 564 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,840 No, she's not. 565 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,840 Now look at this. 566 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,640 And she also labeled this one Maria River Red. 567 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,680 Oh, she did. 568 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:13,680 It's creepy. 569 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,680 Does it not give you the creeps? 570 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,680 Yeah, it does. 571 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,480 But there is something off about that. 572 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,480 There's something wrong. 573 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,600 Look at her teeth. 574 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,320 She looks disheveled. 575 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,000 Something's definitely wrong, right? 576 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,040 This is a post made July 4th. 577 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,040 She's dancing. 578 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,480 The comment on it is Maria River Red. 579 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,920 This video gives me the creeps. 580 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,840 So if you look at this next one I sent you, you obviously has her makeup done. 581 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,760 This to me does not look like the same person. 582 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,560 The teeth are different. 583 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,280 Does she have a lower back tattoo? 584 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,280 Yes. 585 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,280 And the two front tattoos? 586 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,280 Okay. 587 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,280 Yeah. 588 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,280 And then she'll come up. 589 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,160 So yeah, that to me, and I'm just talking about my own personal experience. 590 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,160 And to me, I go, I've seen people age. 591 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,160 Yeah. 592 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,600 I think she's a better dancer than this too. 593 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,080 This person's not that great of a dancer. 594 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,200 I thought I always thought too. 595 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,920 I know aging can affect things. 596 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,560 Drugs can affect teeth. 597 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,160 Those are really weird shoes. 598 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,160 I know. 599 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,160 She was on lithium. 600 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,320 I'm sure that can change your appearance if you're on for long enough. 601 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:16,400 But this to me, this is not the natural course of how looks change. 602 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,320 It doesn't look like Britain. 603 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,880 Like the teeth have completely changed. 604 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,880 I don't know. 605 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,960 Just that's only my comment on it. 606 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,520 I always thought something was off. 607 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,800 So next point. 608 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,720 She has not been seen in public in a while. 609 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,640 What do you mean you may ask? 610 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,720 Because I wrote this before she was just seen getting backhanded by a basketball player security 611 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,000 in Las Vegas. 612 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,720 But even with that, the point still stands. 613 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,520 My reply to you asking that would be yes, you're technically right. 614 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,440 She did just get backhanded by a basketball player security in Las Vegas. 615 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,160 I myself said the same thing. 616 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,240 That being said, remember in the last episode when Britney Spears was being hounded by the 617 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,640 paparazzi before she went under the conservatorship? 618 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,760 They were getting incredibly high definition pictures of her. 619 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,840 There was no doubting back in the day that that was Britney Spears. 620 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,440 However, photos of Britney Spears in public now are grainy. 621 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,720 If you zoom in, you cannot make out any definition on it. 622 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,320 She's in sweaters with hoods up. 623 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,320 I would have to agree that there is a huge difference between what was being produced 624 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,200 before versus now. 625 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,440 And not only are there still paparazzi, but there are also fans now with cell phones which 626 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,400 have really good quality. 627 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,800 Might I add probably better quality than the ones that Britney Spears herself are using 628 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,040 to upload her videos these days. 629 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,400 Anyway, no one is getting very good pictures of her in the wild. 630 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,920 And you cannot zoom in on these photos without getting pixelation. 631 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,640 Let me just send you the picture of her just now. 632 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,080 This is the best picture they have of her when she got backhanded by this player. 633 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,920 I feel like people would have their cameras out for this kind of event too. 634 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:51,920 Yep. 635 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,920 There's that one. 636 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,920 Oh wow. 637 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,800 Are you compelled to say that as Britney Spears? 638 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:56,800 Can you confirm it? 639 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,960 She's moving too fast. 640 00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,960 And this one. 641 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:04,240 These are her in Las Vegas just recently of the security guard backhanded her. 642 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,360 She did come out and make a statement about it that she was there and did get backhanded. 643 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,600 Oh, it's a video. 644 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,560 Yeah, I'm just looking at this video. 645 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,560 It's only 20. 646 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,000 Oh, it's just going over the same thing over and over again. 647 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,560 Yeah, it's a video of her with a hood up. 648 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,680 You cannot tell it's her at all. 649 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,760 You can't tell it's her. 650 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,760 This is normal. 651 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,440 So you can't actually confirm it's her. 652 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,560 This is pretty much anything being put out right now of Britney's ratings. 653 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,280 And again, those are TMZ. 654 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,920 TMZ has come up multiple times now because they were getting leaked information beforehand 655 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,120 during the conservative trip. 656 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,120 They'll come up more. 657 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,120 Yeah, okay. 658 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,840 I'm glad you're drawing the connections though. 659 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,560 So it's believed that large kind of scenes like this, like this was on the news. 660 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,040 It's believed these are set up just when people are like, we haven't heard from Britney in 661 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,200 a while and then she goes and makes a big spectacle like this, but you can't actually 662 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,480 confirm that it's her at all. 663 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,640 So yeah, that's another point in their favor. 664 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,080 Chelsea, this is running a big long, so I think we're going to have to extend this to 665 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,080 a three parter at this point. 666 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,960 In the meantime though, I have been Taylor here with Chelsea. 667 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,200 We are Journey to the Fringe. 668 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,280 Thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week. 669 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,280 Okay. 670 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,240 Thank you for listening to Journey to the Fringe. 671 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