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We are your much more visually appealing podcast hosts, Taylor and Chelsea, and today we answer
the question, what the fuck is going on with Britney?
This is the long version.
I believe it will be two parts.
Chelsea is going to have a lot of fun with this because man, are there way more conspiracy
theories about Britney Spears than you'd expect?
There are so many.
And so yeah, it's going to be two parts.
We're breaking it up.
I didn't want it to be this long, but it just has to.
And we're going to go on a ride.
Not like the kind of ride that we did with Serpo.
We're coming off Serpo.
This is a much different, crazier ride.
Granted in reality, for some of it at least.
I forgot for a sec what I was talking about.
Okay.
Yeah, this is a very real thing.
Let's say that Britney Spears definitely existed at some point in time.
Yes.
Okay.
So let's just talk about it.
Is that how we start with it?
Yeah, that is how we start with it.
I don't think we do conspiracy theories nearly enough.
They're like the asshole of the UFO community just not directed at a specific person.
It's like a fringy idea.
Some of them are pretty ridiculous.
And I'm just trying to think.
Do you remember the last conspiracy theory we did?
Have we done a conspiracy theory?
Well, I guess technically shrinkflation is a conspiracy theory.
It's groups conspiring.
Okay.
It really depends on what you mean by that.
Because a conspiracy theory is only a theory if it's not confirmed.
If it is confirmed, it's a conspiracy theory.
Shrinkflation is confirmed.
Yeah.
While lower.
I don't know if that's a conspiracy theory.
It's a conspiracy theory.
People are hiding it.
Okay.
We can follow it.
And in order to go ahead, definitely, we've done a bunch.
Yeah.
Okay.
Operation paperclip, a confirmed conspiracy.
So we've done a few, not nearly enough.
So maybe we'll have to start adding on there.
I'm quite intrigued by this one.
And I think it's something a lot of people may be intrigued about as well, because I've
been seeing this question pop up a lot more around social media lately.
And that is, like Taylor said, where is Britney Spears?
I know you may be thinking to yourself, Chelsea, what do you mean?
Where is Britney Spears?
Her Instagram is off the hook.
Crazy.
I follow her as well.
I know this.
I'm not going to give too much away right off the bat.
So let's just go down this rabbit hole together, shan't we?
Let me just start with, you need to know the story before I get to the conspiracy theory.
I'm saying conspiracy theory a lot.
We have to first set the stage for the conspiracy theory.
So we're going to go through all of what Britney is about, what's getting us to the
point of the conspiracy theory before we get to the conspiracy theory.
And I'm going to make some of this as brief as possible.
Don't come at me if there's people that are here because they love Britney Spears.
I am doing this for the conspiracy theories.
In particular, I am not up on her life.
So I've researched this to the extent that I find adequate.
With that introduction, let me get you.
You should always know the standard that we hold ourselves to on researching is good
enough.
Yes, it's true.
I'm just getting you to where you need to be.
I am not giving you the full autobiography of Britney Spears.
What I have is correct.
So if you haven't been living under a rock or in the woods, surely you would have heard
of Britney Spears.
And if you haven't, then surely you have at least heard of one of her songs.
Maybe one more time.
Oops, I did it again.
Possibly if you're under 25, you might not know who Britney Spears is.
I'm sure they would still know.
And those two songs that I gave you are specifically my age group.
She has other songs that you might know her for.
There's tons.
She's one of the biggest pop stars.
So Britney Spears is essentially a child star.
Since preschool, she's been performing, love performing.
She was in performing art schools, vocal lessons, beauty pageants.
She was going to talent agencies.
Eventually she's on Star Search, Mickey Mouse Club, blah, blah, blah.
Let's keep in mind this is not little Britney driving to different states to enter beauty
pageants.
It's her mom mostly driving her to different states, entering her into these pageants.
Renting condos in New York so that she can do all of this stuff.
And they're struggling financially.
They declare bankruptcy even, but that doesn't stop them from doing this for their daughter.
Eventually she gets connected with the right people and releases baby one more time when
she's 16 years old and immediately rockets to start them debuting at number one.
She's breaking records, releasing albums, buying a home, hosting music awards shows,
dating Justin Timberlake, playing the Super Bowl, that's singing in the halftime, not
playing football.
Not a player, right?
Yeah, exactly.
She put out a movie, signing deals with Pepsi, giving iconic performances.
I forgot that she was in that weird pretty bad-acted movie.
Oh yeah, the movie.
There's nothing like that.
You could do whatever the fuck she wanted.
She's Britney Spears.
The early 2000s were a good time to be Britney Spears.
It was, yeah.
Or related to her.
Do you remember when her sister got that deal and she was just awful?
Yep.
She got the show on Disney.
So yeah, she's giving iconic performances with the white snake.
I'm pretty sure Pita was all over that.
She's kissing Madonna.
Just wildly popular and successful.
And in 2002, Orbs named her the world's most powerful celebrity.
And she would have been like, I think she was still under 18 at that time, correct?
Very young.
I think she was, yes.
Very young.
She's 25 when she goes into the conservatorship.
So yeah, she's very young.
So she's just wildly successful.
It's making for fumes and other successful stuff.
And let me just add, given literally no tools to be able to deal with everything that comes
along with this huge stardom.
She's kind of one of the first people that all this mania starts happening around with
the paparazzi, just like Beatles level fans and stuff like that.
But all towards one person.
Yeah.
I think that gives you a brief, good enough, ringy idea of Britney Spears and what you
need to know up until this point.
So yeah, she's very successful.
I guess we see that with a lot of child stars, which I would consider her to be a certain
amount of mental health issues that come along with it.
You see what basically every child star out there that has had anything to say that we
care about.
She rose to a huge level of success.
Very young.
I can't imagine anyone being able to be prepared for that.
So let's continue.
I'm going to slow down a little coming up into this info.
January 2004, she marries her childhood friend, Jason Alexander in Las Vegas and they get
it annulled.
And then he gets a record deal.
What?
Does he?
Yeah.
K-Fed, isn't that who he is?
No, this is different.
So she was married first before him.
Yes.
So they're married Las Vegas.
It gets annulled 55 hours later stating, quote, she lacked understanding of her actions.
July 2004, this is the same year.
She gets engaged to Kevin Fenderline and they get married in September 2004.
So all on a very short timeline.
It's here we start to see some craziness happening.
I always empathize with her.
She's the biggest celebrity at the time.
She probably still is.
People still care.
And paparazzi make a career out of doing anything to get a photograph of her.
Hundreds of paparazzi would camp outside of her house waiting for her, chasing her in
her car.
It's dangerous for her the way they're trying to get a shot.
Ports of them.
I can't even imagine living a life with these people around me.
And I know some people say that's what they signed up to do with their stardom.
But I really don't feel like because you're a celebrity, it gives you the right to do
what these people do to make a living taking pictures of celebrities.
Anyway, controversy, so to say, starts happening in her life.
February 2005, she is banned from the Oscars along with Paris Hilton in a bid to prevent
the evening turning into a downmarket scrum.
This is also the same year she has her first child.
And you start hearing rumblings of child services checking in on the fender lines for things
like Brittany driving a car with the baby on her lap.
A lot of this is argued by her as being swarmed by the paparazzi and she was scared and trying
to get away from them and protect her baby.
Which sounds like a reasonable answer, actually.
Yeah.
And just to kind of prove the craziness around her, there's this really sad picture of her
like crying, holding her baby, like sitting down somewhere.
And the context of the picture is she ducked into a restaurant to get away from all these
people swarming her, all the paparazzi swarming her, trying to get a picture with her kid.
And she sits in there and tells the owner, like, I'm just trying to get away from the
paparazzi and the owner ends up taking these pictures and selling them of her.
I can't even imagine being in that situation.
She just must feel so helpless in that.
Her next child's born in 2006 and then divorces filed later that year from K-Fed, finalized
in 2007, citing irreconcilable differences.
This is where it all sadly starts to crumble for Brittany.
It's a bad year, 2007.
She's getting divorced.
She has a death to someone very close to her and the family, her aunt that dies about
varying cancer.
She checks herself into a rehab facility for less than a day.
Upon her return, she makes her way over to K-Fed's house where she wants to see her kids
and he refuses.
So this is when she ends up shaving her head.
She's followed by the paparazzi.
She shaves her head and the total meltdown attacks paparazzi's car with an umbrella.
And you know what?
I consider myself a mostly same person.
I don't actually blame her for these actions.
I can only imagine what she's feeling in that moment and to be trailed by hundreds of paparazzi
trying to get this picture, having a complete meltdown.
Brittany Spears said herself on a deleted YouTube video she put out after the conservators
ship that quote, literally the extent of my madness was playing Chase with paparazzi.
End quote.
In October, she loses custody of her sons.
This year, she also gives a horrible performance of Gimme More at the MTV Video Music Awards.
January 2008, Spears has time with her sons.
And when the time is up, she's so desperate to have any time with her sons, she refuses
to relinquish them back to Fenderline.
There's a standoff with the police and their intervening and she was hospitalized, multiple
mental evaluations.
Weeks later, she is taken to a hospital in LA and the court declares her father, Richard
Doty.
Just kidding.
Jamie Spears.
No, they declare Richard Doty her dad.
Jamie Spears, her dad, to be head of this little thing called the conservatorship, whom
she is openly astraying from.
Her father, not the conservatorship.
She actually eventually came out and said she did not want him to be put in charge.
She was afraid of him and actually petitioned the court, but the judge said, nah.
Jamie declares to Brittany at this point.
I am Brittany Spears now.
I call the shots.
Under the conservatorship, she has two guardians.
Her dad, who is conservator of her estate, Money and Person, and Andrew Wallett is also
a co-conservator of her estate.
Now, Taylor, do you know anything about a conservatorship?
I know vaguely about them because I did follow this when it happened a while back and basically
you have no controller of your life.
Okay, so you know it from Brittany Spears?
Yes.
Okay.
So a conservatorship.
They actually surprisingly happen a ton with child stars.
I believe Amanda Bines is actually under one too.
She is, yeah.
She is just insane.
I would consider her just from what I've seen of her, definitely more insane than Brittany
Spears.
Sorry if you're listening, Amanda Bines.
Yeah, I'm sorry if you're one of our listeners.
I've actually heard that it becomes more of an issue with child actors because they're
used to at a younger age pretending to be and getting praise for not being themselves.
So they get cognitive disassociation with their own personality.
I could see that.
But I don't know the science behind it.
I don't know if that's true or not, but it would make sense.
I mean, there's a lot of messed up things with child anything, not child anything, of
course, child stars.
You see a lot of them messed up.
Look at the quarries.
Cory Goodby, one of them, of course.
Yes, the three quarries, of course.
They probably find that pretty offensive.
Yeah.
Two quarries, that is.
Okay, let's talk about what a conservatorship is.
A conservatorship, also known as a guardian ship in other states, it's known as a conservatorship
in California, a point someone to manage the financial and or personal affairs of a significantly
incapacitated person, which is usually someone elderly.
I used to draft them up their health care agreements in BC.
Oh, really?
And yeah, if you can't take care of yourself, this person you can assign to like make decisions
on your behalf and you give them direction for it.
It's costly and a time consuming legal process and an extreme option compared to something
like a power of attorney or special needs trust.
Right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Like I said, and Taylor was just saying, this is usually put into place for someone who's
elderly and say has dementia and can't pay their bills, can't go to the bathroom, can't
feed themselves, needs to make sure they go to the doctor, a truly incapacitating condition
that would not allow you to take care of yourself.
Yeah, it can be done for really young people as well, like correct if they're in a coma,
somebody who has severe schizophrenia, who when they have a mental relapse will not enter
themselves into a facility that can help them because they think that the doctors there
are aliens who will be performing autopsies on them or something like that or biopsies.
That's terrifying.
So yeah, no, so they would put that other person in charge when they have these relapses.
Okay, that makes sense.
So it can happen definitely for younger people too.
But like in a extreme situation, as you pointed out exactly.
Like I said above, it is said that Britney Spears was put into the hospital.
She's put on something called the 5150, which is a psychiatric hold for mental evaluation.
However, the reason for the court's decision to award this conservatorship, while you can
get access to tons of there's documents, there's here say of why she came into this conservatorship.
There's no actual official diagnosis or not, which was the cause for them to say this is
why we need the conservatorship and as granted in Britney Spears is YouTube.
She put out talking about this after she was freely able to talk after the conservatorship.
She even said she wasn't sure why she was under it and she was very confused about the
whole situation.
She also said when she was first hospitalized by her parents, she was completely sober.
No drugs in her system, no alcohol, no nothing.
It was just pure abuse by her parents.
She said, I think the main thing I do remember when it all started was my dad's want for
control.
He loved controlling everything I did.
Now that's empty of her quote.
Now barring that diagnosis, I myself feel a little confused about the conservatorship
because there are tons of mentally ill people functioning in society.
I would say probably 99.9% not under conservatorships.
There are people spending money stupidly.
Again, not under conservatorships.
I do wonder what made the court rule to place her under this thing because she essentially
loses all of her freedoms.
Yeah, you would actually probably be surprised the rate of like child actors that end up
in this and child stars that end up in conservatorships.
I think and this is somewhat speculative on my end, very cynic, but it's to protect the
assets because they have a lot of money that other people make off them.
Like say the music studio and people that own arenas, people that are in the music industry,
they want to continue to make money off of this person.
They don't want to have the liability out there of this person having control over their
life.
So they put somebody in a position to maintain a level of monotony in their life and not
allow them to do things that would lose potential value.
You bring up a very, very good point.
Literally that puts it better than I have in this whole thing.
So I'm glad that you said that.
So the conservatorship was in charge of literally every aspect of her life, every, but I'm
going to go through a few things with the conservatorship, which her dad was in charge
of that included making business decisions, contracts, including albums, residencies,
that kind of stuff, investment.
She had no say over where her money was invested, giving detailed financial reports to the courts.
That included every single penny spent would have had to be detailed, including when she
would take her sons out and like want to buy them a hot dog, go out for fast food, go to
a movie, every single cost had to be accounted for.
Also paying the maintenance of the conservatorship, which took up the largest portion of BS's
fortune during this time.
Because you know, acting as a conservator, especially court appointed one, you've got
to get paid.
Yeah.
So whether or not you're in it willingly, she's paying them.
Yep.
Because he's doing that duty this court appointed.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So during this time, this is taking up the largest portion of her money.
And this is all at the conservators discretion.
And I don't know about you, but I feel like I would be a lot more liberal with someone
else's money than I would with my own.
What do you want your salary to be for this thing that you're required to do by law?
You get to pick it.
Yes.
And you know exactly how much money I have.
Yeah.
Some of what his expenses were included a $16,000 per month salary plus $2,000 per month for
office space and then a percentage of any deal signed for BS.
And I have to tell you, Taylor, Brittany at this point only has a court appointed lawyer
representing her because she can't get a lawyer outside of him because he's in charge of conservatorship.
Exactly.
She doesn't have that choice.
So she has a point appointed lawyer.
Meanwhile, he's hiring like the best lawyers for himself that she is paying for.
Exactly.
She's paying the fees, which is just ridiculous.
She's basically paying the fees for the lawyers to fight against what she wants.
She did eventually petition to get further representation and her dad shot it down saying
it costs too much money.
So lots of financially driven things involved like Taylor pointed out the whole entire conservatorship
maintenance adds up to at least $1.1 million annually, right?
Or is that over the entire period?
I'm just trying to think his salary 16.
I don't know.
Well, I guess his salary is only just under $200,000 right around $200,000.
I'm taking it as a whole.
So I mean, no.
But $200,000, it goes on for longer than five years.
That way there will be a million and that would only be his salary.
There's other things involved in it.
It's 18 years.
Yeah.
So it's way more than a million.
Yeah.
Okay.
Way more than a million.
So thanks for bringing that to our attention.
Okay.
So she's under the literally my next brush.
She's under the conservatorship for 13 years.
And during most of this time she is operating as normal Britney Spears.
Nobody knows what's going on.
That I kind of just put on shows.
Yeah.
Nobody cares about the stuff I just talked about at this point.
Everyone's like, Oh my God, conservatorship, but she's acting so normal.
All the shady stuff is happening in secret and her career seemed to be operating as
normal to us.
Normie's.
Now let's talk about some of the things that her life looked like under the conservatorship.
She cannot make personal or financial decisions without the oversight of the conservatorship
her father.
She can't vote.
She can't drive.
She wasn't allowed to see her friends or get married without approval.
Well, get married.
No, see your friends.
No, without approval.
The conservatorship controls BS as a state, which is valued at about $60 million, which
actually blows my mind because weren't the dudes that went to the Titanic that like exploded
were billions.
Yeah.
And like Britney Spears doesn't even worth that amount of money.
Where do you get that money?
Generational wealth.
Yeah.
Yes.
By and the Bastards just did a two part episode on Stockton Rush, the guy who owned the company
for it.
Really?
It's a good listen.
Oh, I am totally on that.
I was just listening to the AI one that he put out.
Anyhow, where were the orcas from that one?
Nobody was there to see what the orcas were doing.
It's true.
If you follow Britney at all, you may know that the control entailed over her even included
control over her body, such as the birth control she was or was not on.
Spears also said she was refused to participate in a Las Vegas residency because her therapist
received a million phone calls that super Canadian a million phone calls about her behavior
in rehearsals and failure to take her medication.
Quote, all of this was false.
He immediately the next day put me on lithium out of nowhere.
He took me off my normal meds.
I've been on for five years.
Spears said adding that the drug was much stronger than what she was used to being on
and made her feel drunk.
She said I couldn't even have a conversation with my mom or dad really about anything.
She said adding that she had doctors and nurses at her home to monitor the medication and
her dad and force it down.
I feel about it too because she had to take lithium.
Yeah.
Obviously couldn't control any of her money, make any personal decisions, get her nails
done, change the color of her walls, order a pizza.
She has millions of dollars but couldn't make the smallest decisions.
She had her personal phone calls and text messages monitored, which is actually illegal.
She herself said she was under 24 hours surveillance in her house, even when getting dressed.
There's that.
But also under conservatorship, she released three albums, went on a world tour, appeared
as a judge on X Factor and had a Las Vegas residency.
So she looked completely put together for the outside world.
And might I point out that with all of the above, super successful and would have taken
a lot of discipline and hard work to uphold, not really something someone unable to take
care of themselves would be able to uphold.
Somebody able to interact with society on a normal basis.
Yeah.
And might I say also continue to make a profit for more than a decade.
There's that.
Let's talk about the people surrounding Britney Spears at the time.
So there's Andrew Wallett, who was the co-Cohen conservator.
I was about to say conspirator, a conservator.
I mean, kind of.
Yeah.
He was a guardian since the inception of the conservatorship in 2008 to 2019, when he
resigned a couple of months after he had petitioned for a raise to just about half a million dollars
a year, which he got weird that he resigned.
Pin on that thought right there.
So right there that tells me, yes, probably 1.1 million per year annually that they were
spending just based on that figure.
Yes, her dad's salary and office space, of course.
Also involved Britney's dad, Jamie, just to give you a little background on him and what
he's up to.
He was present only intermittently during his daughter's rise to pop stardom.
He wasn't the one driving her around to all these places.
And in 2004, according to a court filing, Mr. Spears went to rehab for alcoholism.
Twice, his first wife had said he had a shitty upbringing.
And wife Lynn had filed for divorce and a restraining order, citing a fear that he would become
angry when he is served with these papers and harass or harm her, especially if he has
been drinking alcoholic beverages as he has done in the past.
She had recalled years of verbal abuse, abandonment and erratic behavior.
They did reconcile and then actually a divorce in 2002.
The mom said later that it was the best thing that ever happened to her family.
And Lynn's her mom, correct?
Yes.
She was stressed that she did not want her father in charge.
A lawyer she consulted at that time said that the judge overseeing the case, Riva Goetz,
deemed Ms. Spears incapable of hiring her own counsel and appointed Mr. Ingam, the court
appointed lawyer who represented her to this day.
And I'm actually not sure if he was still representing her right up to the end or how
long he was because some of this information is from outdated articles to get everything
put together here.
The estranged dynamic between the two grew even more complicated after Mr. Spears, J.S.,
a recovering alcoholic who was faced with accusations of physical and verbal abuse, took the lead
in wrestling what he saw was his adult daughter's demons.
He was like, I'm here for this.
February 2008, according to court records, Judge Goetz deemed Mr. Spears a suitable and
qualified person and granted him broad control over his daughter's daily life and alongside
a co-conservator, her finances.
He has no credentials to basically be doing any of what he's doing other than being her
father.
So they are assuming he has her best interest at heart.
During this period, a former nanny and housekeeper for BS claimed that her dad engaged in verbal
abuse, tirades, inappropriate behavior, and alcoholic relapses.
According to a transcript, she asserted that she had been forced into a mental health facility
against her will on exaggerated grounds, which she viewed as punishment for standing up for
herself and making an objection during a rehearsal.
She also claimed she had been forced to perform well sick with 104 degree fever, calling it
one of the scariest moments of her life.
Ms. Spears court-appointed lawyer said she wanted to explore removing her father of conservators
citing his drinking among other objections and a shopping list of grievances.
Last year, again, I'm not sure what year this was.
So sorry, it's good enough.
Told the judge that BS was afraid of her father who remains a steward of her nearly $60 million
fortune.
BS said her father was obsessed with her and wanted to control everything about her.
She could not make friends without his approval.
Even as she earned millions from a successful Las Vegas residency, she said she was limited
to a $2,000 weekly allowance.
She described how she was forced to work without access to her credit card, cash, phone, and
passport.
The only thing she said that is similar to this is sex trafficking.
Any mistakes resulted in very harsh consequences for BS adding, according to the report, the
conservatorship came with a lot of fear.
She also said she had weekly meetings that she was to attend that were used as bargaining
tips for her money and freeing.
She said, it's not okay to force me to do anything I don't want to do.
Honestly, I should be able to sue them for threatening me and saying if I don't go to
these meetings twice a week, we can't let you have your money, go on Maui on your vacations,
see your sons.
I don't want to do that and I haven't done anything to deserve this treatment.
So that's kind of what's going on with her and her dad.
Then there's the free Brittany movement.
And this is still kind of under the same category as her dad because we kind of talk about it
here.
The conservatorship actually came around shortly after the conservatorship in 2009.
I didn't know what was that long.
And it was started by a website called breatheheavy.com created by Jordan Miller, putting forth
the movement that Brittany Spears was being held against her will.
Jordan did receive a call from BS's dad threatening to take the website down.
BS's dad has said that the conservatorship was a smooth running machine that was doing
exactly what it was intended, saving Brittany, but in the end, she had the control to end
it whenever she felt like BS famously stayed silent on the subject other than being perfectly
happy.
However, now that the conservatorship has ended, we have learned differently.
Brittany Spears expressed serious opposition to the conservatorship almost immediately.
She articulated, she feels the conservatorship has become an impressive and controlling
tool against her.
A court investigator wrote in 2016, the system had too much control, too, too much.
She said she wanted the conservatorship terminated as soon as possible.
She is sick of being taken advantage of.
And she said she is the one working in earning her money, but everyone around her is on her
payroll.
She said she felt forced to perform against her will under the conservatorship and repeatedly
voiced her concerns that Jamie was the gatekeeper of the conservatorship, like we've said many,
many times.
Now, I know it seems like I'm kind of jumping around a lot, a bit, a lot in this, but there's
a method to my madness.
And this is all information you're going to need to know getting into what I'm going
to talk about now.
During the conservatorship, the public image of BS's life, a little sense of the turmoil
she was expressing privately.
At the time she was expressing this to the court.
It wasn't in an open court.
We didn't know this.
Something that she was expressing outwardly was very controlled.
Yeah.
Because it was on stages where she was getting paid to make the appearance.
Not only that.
So I'm going to start getting into the Instagram.
And Instagram feed presented her as approachable.
She made videos saying she's okay.
She's never been happier.
It doesn't look anything like what it looks like today, guys.
It was just like kind of fun.
Like she's training for her tours, for her residencies, kind of stuff like that.
So foreshadowing, perhaps.
I don't know.
We're bad at foreshadowing here.
We're really good at it.
February 2019, a new lucrative Las Vegas show was set to begin.
They're doing rehearsals.
They do like a public promotional thing with Brittany.
And in front of all these people, she stops and she leaves.
Like right when the event's getting started, she was set to make some sort of speech and
she leaves without saying a word.
Then a month before opening January 4, 2019, BS announced an indefinite work hiatus, canceling
the residency.
She says the dad had almost died after suffering a ruptured colon, according to the statement,
which noted that the pair's very special relationship.
Three days after this, Brittany is spotted driving through an in and out drive-through
with her boyfriend at the time, Sam Asgari.
Do you remember that I said driving was a no-no?
Yes.
It was a rule.
I'm not sure what rule it was, but it was a rule.
I'm sure there were many rules we weren't aware of that she had to follow.
Sadly.
After this, BS is MIA for months.
Poof, gone.
Her Instagram is silent, where it was pretty regularly updated.
Her boyfriend's not posting anything of her.
Nobody's seeing her anywhere.
She's gone.
Shortly after, in March, kind of shortly after, I mean this is in January.
In March, Wallet resigns.
Wallet the co-conservator resigns.
Repin the pin we put down earlier, because this is what he had to say about his resignation.
Quote, the conservatorship is engaged in numerous ongoing business activities requiring immediate
attention.
It is therefore in the best interest of the conservatee that the acceptance of Wallet's
resignation and the issuance of the amended letters of the conservatorship of the estate
occur immediately without delay.
Substantial detriment, irreparable harm, and immediate danger will result to the conservatee
and her estate if the relief request herein is not granted on an ex parte basis.
End quote.
What do you think of that?
That's a very weird thing to say.
Like something dangerous will happen if I stay in this role.
Basically is what he said.
That sounds like he knows stuff for sure.
Yeah.
There are a lot of people whose ears kind of perk up at this time because she's gone.
Nobody knows where she is.
And I'm assuming as a co-conservator, he knows where she is.
So a lot of people's ears perk up and are like, something's not right.
Now, continuing on with the timeline happening here, prior to the conservatorship being over,
there was an anonymous voicemail left for a fan podcast called Britney's Gram by someone
claiming to be a paralegal with first hand involvement in the conservatorship.
The guy checks out, they fully vetted him that he is actually this person he says he
is and he was and he raised alarms about BS, physically and mental wellbeing and autonomy.
This started some questions being asked.
Her Instagram had been dark for months.
A huge contrast to what it had been previously.
And what the paralegal says on the voicemail is that Britney was in rehearsal for her biggest
residency had refused to take some sort of medication that she legally was required to
take.
And the dad says, either you take the medication or your show is off and I'm pulling my support.
Quick pause in that story because Britney Spears tells a slightly different story on
her little YouTube thing she put out after the conservatorship.
And she said she refused to perform a specific dance move in rehearsals.
She said, I remember everything got really weird and quiet and all the directors and
producers went in the back room and just spoken.
That was it.
She said the next day I was told that I was being sent away to a facility and I was supposed
to stay on my Instagram.
The reason was because my dad was sick and I needed treatment.
Spears claimed that she called her father crying, but all he told her was to listen to
the doctors.
You don't have to go, but if you don't go, we're going to go to court and there will
be a big trial and you're going to lose.
I have more people on my side than you.
You don't have any lawyers.
So don't even think about it.
I'm kind of giving away where we're going with that.
I had to get her side of events out after that though.
Okay, back to the paralegal.
Obviously she didn't do it.
And so the show was pulled.
He said, blame it on my illness.
BS is still not following through BS is then seen driving a big no, no BS was in the mental
facility since January.
This voicemail was left in April and she was still at the mental health facility with no
apparent end in sight.
She was forced to go April 3rd.
Britney's Instagram posts a little mean and in quotes, it says, we all need to take a
little me time with a happy face emoji.
Red flags immediately for anyone that likes Britney Spears because this is clearly not
Britney Spears.
She does not use the smiley face emoji.
She loves emoji.
Not that one.
Like she just put a picture of herself, doesn't she?
Like this is just as calm.
No, she does post a lot of means actually still.
Okay.
This is clearly not her posting here.
An hour after this post TMZ is reporting that Britney Spears checked herself into a mental
health facility the week before for a month.
This means that TMZ was being fed information and was outright lying.
And her Instagram was obviously being uploaded on her behalf and was made to look as if she
wanted to go to this facility.
It's around this time that mental health starts to become a big thing of people taking time
for mental health, focusing on mental health.
So I think it was kind of meant as a like, yeah, go Britney, like you check yourself into
that mental health if you need it so that people are supporting her instead of being
like, wait, what, what is she doing?
Speaking of her time in this facility, Spears claimed that she was forced to give six files
of blood every week and work all day without break.
She also claimed that she didn't have a door on her room saying security guards and others
at the facility watched her change naked every day at the facility.
She wasn't allowed to go to her AA meetings and she missed having that support group.
A free Britney movement actually helped her to leave that facility.
She says she feels let down by everyone closest to her because her fans were the ones fighting
for her to be free when any person close to her could have ended it immediately.
Speaking on the trauma of the experience Spears says they literally killed me.
They threw me away.
That's what it felt like.
My family threw me away with all of this information coming to light.
Everyone starts asking the few people around her what's going on with Britney.
No one has anything to say for mom, her business manager, Lou Taylor, who's in the loop with
everyone, everyone close to her.
There weren't many.
And this wallet guy backs out at this time and saying like, I don't want to be involved
with this.
Yeah.
This is probably why he wanted out of it.
He didn't want any liability that went along with it.
Probably.
I think I talk about it.
Let's wait and see.
The leaks continue from the paralegal.
He went on to say about wallet resigning.
The reason everything happened so fast is because he didn't want any stir of liability
with this whole fiasco.
I wouldn't say he's on Britney's side, but he was definitely uncomfortable with her being
forced into a mental institution.
It got too messy for him.
It was like, I've done all I can do with this and I'm not about to get disbarred.
Yeah.
So that was what the paralegal said.
He went on to say that this was said in a meeting quote at the very least, this will
help with ticket revenue when we were announced Vegas and quote, he went on to say that management
has final say in what stays in the interviews and what stays out.
You should see the behavior of them whenever she is booked on something with a live audience.
They're freaked the fuck out because whatever leaves her mouth can't just be edited out.
Studies have spoken out about Britney Spears under the conservatorship.
Carson Daly for one tweeted quote, I was told my Britney Spears interview tomorrow on AMP
radio must be pre-recorded and submitted for approval by her management before it can
air F that never been restricted.
Even when I interviewed Michael Jackson, it wasn't anything like this.
It's really insane.
One person tweeted he was acting a professional to which daily replied quote, I'm unprofessional
faking an entire interview just shocked her management won't let her do normal interview.
She probably doesn't even know I've known and supported her since she was 15.
This has nothing to do with her.
Just her people Iggy is a Leah who I'm totally not familiar with and released a song with
Britney Spears and she says she signed a non disclosure and her father could and probably
would sue her.
She said quote personally witnessed the same behavior Britney detailed in regards to her
father.
She says it human decency to at the very least remove a person Britney has identified as
abusive from her life.
This should be illegal.
During the time we work together in 2015 I personally witnessed the same behavior Britney
detailed in regards to her father last week and I just want to back her up until the world
she's not exaggerating or lying.
I saw her restricted from even the most bizarre and trivial things like how many sodas she
was allowed to drink.
Why is that even necessary?
Her father conveniently waited until literally moments before our VMA performance when I
was backstage in the dressing room and he told me if I didn't sign the NDA he would
not allow me on stage.
That's a power trip.
The way he went on about getting me to sign a contract sounded similar to the tactics
Britney spoke about last week in regards to her Las Vegas show.
Jamie Spears had a habit of making people sign documents while under duress it seems
and Britney Spears should not be forced to coexist with that man while she's made it
clear it is negatively impacting her mental health.
This is not right at all.
End quote from Iggy Azalea.
From those who don't know Iggy's contract signing comment was in regards to Britney saying
she was forced to sign a contract to go on tour immediately after leaving the stage.
In her testimony Britney Spears said he handed me a sheet of paper as I got off stage in
Vegas and said I had to sign it.
It was very threatening and scary and with the conservatorship I couldn't even get my
own attorney so out of fear I went ahead and did the tour.
The paralegal goes on to say the conservatorship was supposed to end after her circus tour
in 2009.
It was go on tour show us that you're stable and well and this conservatorship will help
you gain custodial rights of your children.
If you see any footage of her on the fam Fetal tour I don't know what one that is I'm sorry.
It's limited because she appears to be extremely sluggish and extremely medicated.
Her and everyone's understanding was that Mr. Spears would petition the court to end
the conservatorship after the circus tour.
That didn't happen and from what I understand BS had another sort of mental break.
Now this mental break to me would most likely be as a result of the conservatorship not
ending when it was supposed to be only a year.
Oh yeah if you hear that you're like about to be out of jail on this day and then on
that day they say sorry you actually have like a life prison.
It's indefinite.
Yeah.
Again empathizing with her on that one.
I would have if I was presented with most of the stuff I've said in this episode I would
be having many a mental break.
So he then says that they vet every single person that comes into contact with Britney
Sears and essentially the reason behind everything is money as you pointed out.
She was alone essentially.
She had no one.
The people closest to her were taking advantage of her.
That's not only that.
Would she was talking about being removed from that like Vegas rehearsal.
The threat was we won't let you do this and that would be her only chance to interact
with people who aren't just part of this conservatorship or be in prison basically.
So that was like taking away her yard time.
That's true.
Like she is in solitary confinement basically.
It's ridiculous.
Oh it's really bad.
So anyhow with this whole Las Vegas story that I just told you she's in a mental health
facility for months and it was very secretive.
This is where they put out the Instagram that's clearly not Britney Spears.
She puts out an Instagram saying you know guys I'm okay.
I've never been happier blah blah blah.
This is where everyone starts reading into the little details Britney Spears is posting
on her Instagram because everyone was thinking that the social media posts she was making
since the blackout were off and they ended up getting all of this confirmation that she
was lying saying she was happy that someone else was actually posting on her behalf because
she was forcibly put into a mental institution and that is where we're leaving off for next
week.
That was my natural ending point.
Wow that's a great spot to end it.
Let's have a little bit of a cliffhanger here.
The end of the conservatorship and see what happens from here.
Yeah let's do it.
Let's see.
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