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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe.

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Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, now with 13% more jazz apps.

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We are your much more visually appealing podcast hosts, Taylor and Chelsea, and today we answer

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the question, what the fuck is going on with Britney?

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This is the long version.

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I believe it will be two parts.

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Chelsea is going to have a lot of fun with this because man, are there way more conspiracy

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theories about Britney Spears than you'd expect?

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There are so many.

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And so yeah, it's going to be two parts.

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We're breaking it up.

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I didn't want it to be this long, but it just has to.

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And we're going to go on a ride.

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Not like the kind of ride that we did with Serpo.

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We're coming off Serpo.

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This is a much different, crazier ride.

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Granted in reality, for some of it at least.

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I forgot for a sec what I was talking about.

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Okay.

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Yeah, this is a very real thing.

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Let's say that Britney Spears definitely existed at some point in time.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So let's just talk about it.

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Is that how we start with it?

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Yeah, that is how we start with it.

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I don't think we do conspiracy theories nearly enough.

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They're like the asshole of the UFO community just not directed at a specific person.

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It's like a fringy idea.

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Some of them are pretty ridiculous.

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And I'm just trying to think.

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Do you remember the last conspiracy theory we did?

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Have we done a conspiracy theory?

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Well, I guess technically shrinkflation is a conspiracy theory.

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It's groups conspiring.

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Okay.

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It really depends on what you mean by that.

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Because a conspiracy theory is only a theory if it's not confirmed.

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If it is confirmed, it's a conspiracy theory.

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Shrinkflation is confirmed.

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Yeah.

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While lower.

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I don't know if that's a conspiracy theory.

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It's a conspiracy theory.

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People are hiding it.

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Okay.

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We can follow it.

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And in order to go ahead, definitely, we've done a bunch.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Operation paperclip, a confirmed conspiracy.

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So we've done a few, not nearly enough.

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So maybe we'll have to start adding on there.

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I'm quite intrigued by this one.

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And I think it's something a lot of people may be intrigued about as well, because I've

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been seeing this question pop up a lot more around social media lately.

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And that is, like Taylor said, where is Britney Spears?

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I know you may be thinking to yourself, Chelsea, what do you mean?

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Where is Britney Spears?

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Her Instagram is off the hook.

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Crazy.

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I follow her as well.

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I know this.

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I'm not going to give too much away right off the bat.

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So let's just go down this rabbit hole together, shan't we?

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Let me just start with, you need to know the story before I get to the conspiracy theory.

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I'm saying conspiracy theory a lot.

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We have to first set the stage for the conspiracy theory.

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So we're going to go through all of what Britney is about, what's getting us to the

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point of the conspiracy theory before we get to the conspiracy theory.

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And I'm going to make some of this as brief as possible.

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Don't come at me if there's people that are here because they love Britney Spears.

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I am doing this for the conspiracy theories.

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In particular, I am not up on her life.

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So I've researched this to the extent that I find adequate.

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With that introduction, let me get you.

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You should always know the standard that we hold ourselves to on researching is good

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enough.

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Yes, it's true.

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I'm just getting you to where you need to be.

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I am not giving you the full autobiography of Britney Spears.

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What I have is correct.

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So if you haven't been living under a rock or in the woods, surely you would have heard

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of Britney Spears.

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And if you haven't, then surely you have at least heard of one of her songs.

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Maybe one more time.

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Oops, I did it again.

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Possibly if you're under 25, you might not know who Britney Spears is.

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I'm sure they would still know.

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And those two songs that I gave you are specifically my age group.

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She has other songs that you might know her for.

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There's tons.

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She's one of the biggest pop stars.

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So Britney Spears is essentially a child star.

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Since preschool, she's been performing, love performing.

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She was in performing art schools, vocal lessons, beauty pageants.

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She was going to talent agencies.

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Eventually she's on Star Search, Mickey Mouse Club, blah, blah, blah.

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Let's keep in mind this is not little Britney driving to different states to enter beauty

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pageants.

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It's her mom mostly driving her to different states, entering her into these pageants.

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Renting condos in New York so that she can do all of this stuff.

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And they're struggling financially.

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They declare bankruptcy even, but that doesn't stop them from doing this for their daughter.

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Eventually she gets connected with the right people and releases baby one more time when

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she's 16 years old and immediately rockets to start them debuting at number one.

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She's breaking records, releasing albums, buying a home, hosting music awards shows,

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dating Justin Timberlake, playing the Super Bowl, that's singing in the halftime, not

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playing football.

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Not a player, right?

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She put out a movie, signing deals with Pepsi, giving iconic performances.

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I forgot that she was in that weird pretty bad-acted movie.

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Oh yeah, the movie.

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There's nothing like that.

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You could do whatever the fuck she wanted.

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She's Britney Spears.

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The early 2000s were a good time to be Britney Spears.

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It was, yeah.

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Or related to her.

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Do you remember when her sister got that deal and she was just awful?

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She got the show on Disney.

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So yeah, she's giving iconic performances with the white snake.

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I'm pretty sure Pita was all over that.

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She's kissing Madonna.

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Just wildly popular and successful.

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And in 2002, Orbs named her the world's most powerful celebrity.

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And she would have been like, I think she was still under 18 at that time, correct?

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Very young.

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I think she was, yes.

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Very young.

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She's 25 when she goes into the conservatorship.

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So yeah, she's very young.

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So she's just wildly successful.

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It's making for fumes and other successful stuff.

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along with this huge stardom.

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She's kind of one of the first people that all this mania starts happening around with

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the paparazzi, just like Beatles level fans and stuff like that.

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But all towards one person.

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I think that gives you a brief, good enough, ringy idea of Britney Spears and what you

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need to know up until this point.

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So yeah, she's very successful.

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I guess we see that with a lot of child stars, which I would consider her to be a certain

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amount of mental health issues that come along with it.

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She rose to a huge level of success.

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I can't imagine anyone being able to be prepared for that.

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I'm going to slow down a little coming up into this info.

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January 2004, she marries her childhood friend, Jason Alexander in Las Vegas and they get

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it annulled.

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And then he gets a record deal.

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Does he?

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K-Fed, isn't that who he is?

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No, this is different.

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So she was married first before him.

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So they're married Las Vegas.

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It gets annulled 55 hours later stating, quote, she lacked understanding of her actions.

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July 2004, this is the same year.

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She gets engaged to Kevin Fenderline and they get married in September 2004.

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So all on a very short timeline.

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It's here we start to see some craziness happening.

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I always empathize with her.

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She's the biggest celebrity at the time.

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She probably still is.

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People still care.

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And paparazzi make a career out of doing anything to get a photograph of her.

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Hundreds of paparazzi would camp outside of her house waiting for her, chasing her in

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her car.

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It's dangerous for her the way they're trying to get a shot.

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Ports of them.

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I can't even imagine living a life with these people around me.

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And I know some people say that's what they signed up to do with their stardom.

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But I really don't feel like because you're a celebrity, it gives you the right to do

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what these people do to make a living taking pictures of celebrities.

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Anyway, controversy, so to say, starts happening in her life.

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February 2005, she is banned from the Oscars along with Paris Hilton in a bid to prevent

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the evening turning into a downmarket scrum.

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This is also the same year she has her first child.

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And you start hearing rumblings of child services checking in on the fender lines for things

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like Brittany driving a car with the baby on her lap.

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A lot of this is argued by her as being swarmed by the paparazzi and she was scared and trying

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to get away from them and protect her baby.

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Which sounds like a reasonable answer, actually.

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And just to kind of prove the craziness around her, there's this really sad picture of her

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like crying, holding her baby, like sitting down somewhere.

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people swarming her, all the paparazzi swarming her, trying to get a picture with her kid.

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And she sits in there and tells the owner, like, I'm just trying to get away from the

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paparazzi and the owner ends up taking these pictures and selling them of her.

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I can't even imagine being in that situation.

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She just must feel so helpless in that.

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Her next child's born in 2006 and then divorces filed later that year from K-Fed, finalized

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in 2007, citing irreconcilable differences.

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This is where it all sadly starts to crumble for Brittany.

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It's a bad year, 2007.

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She's getting divorced.

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She has a death to someone very close to her and the family, her aunt that dies about

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varying cancer.

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She checks herself into a rehab facility for less than a day.

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Upon her return, she makes her way over to K-Fed's house where she wants to see her kids

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and he refuses.

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So this is when she ends up shaving her head.

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She's followed by the paparazzi.

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She shaves her head and the total meltdown attacks paparazzi's car with an umbrella.

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I consider myself a mostly same person.

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I don't actually blame her for these actions.

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I can only imagine what she's feeling in that moment and to be trailed by hundreds of paparazzi

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trying to get this picture, having a complete meltdown.

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Brittany Spears said herself on a deleted YouTube video she put out after the conservators

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ship that quote, literally the extent of my madness was playing Chase with paparazzi.

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In October, she loses custody of her sons.

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This year, she also gives a horrible performance of Gimme More at the MTV Video Music Awards.

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January 2008, Spears has time with her sons.

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And when the time is up, she's so desperate to have any time with her sons, she refuses

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to relinquish them back to Fenderline.

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There's a standoff with the police and their intervening and she was hospitalized, multiple

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mental evaluations.

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Weeks later, she is taken to a hospital in LA and the court declares her father, Richard

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Just kidding.

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Jamie Spears.

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No, they declare Richard Doty her dad.

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Jamie Spears, her dad, to be head of this little thing called the conservatorship, whom

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she is openly astraying from.

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Her father, not the conservatorship.

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She actually eventually came out and said she did not want him to be put in charge.

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She was afraid of him and actually petitioned the court, but the judge said, nah.

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Jamie declares to Brittany at this point.

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I am Brittany Spears now.

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I call the shots.

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Under the conservatorship, she has two guardians.

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Her dad, who is conservator of her estate, Money and Person, and Andrew Wallett is also

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a co-conservator of her estate.

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Now, Taylor, do you know anything about a conservatorship?

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I know vaguely about them because I did follow this when it happened a while back and basically

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you have no controller of your life.

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Okay, so you know it from Brittany Spears?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So a conservatorship.

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They actually surprisingly happen a ton with child stars.

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I believe Amanda Bines is actually under one too.

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She is, yeah.

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She is just insane.

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I would consider her just from what I've seen of her, definitely more insane than Brittany

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Spears.

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Sorry if you're listening, Amanda Bines.

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Yeah, I'm sorry if you're one of our listeners.

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I've actually heard that it becomes more of an issue with child actors because they're

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used to at a younger age pretending to be and getting praise for not being themselves.

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So they get cognitive disassociation with their own personality.

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I could see that.

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But I don't know the science behind it.

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I don't know if that's true or not, but it would make sense.

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I mean, there's a lot of messed up things with child anything, not child anything, of

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course, child stars.

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You see a lot of them messed up.

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Look at the quarries.

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Cory Goodby, one of them, of course.

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Yes, the three quarries, of course.

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They probably find that pretty offensive.

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Yeah.

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Two quarries, that is.

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Okay, let's talk about what a conservatorship is.

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A conservatorship, also known as a guardian ship in other states, it's known as a conservatorship

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in California, a point someone to manage the financial and or personal affairs of a significantly

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incapacitated person, which is usually someone elderly.

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I used to draft them up their health care agreements in BC.

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Oh, really?

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And yeah, if you can't take care of yourself, this person you can assign to like make decisions

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on your behalf and you give them direction for it.

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It's costly and a time consuming legal process and an extreme option compared to something

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like a power of attorney or special needs trust.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Like I said, and Taylor was just saying, this is usually put into place for someone who's

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elderly and say has dementia and can't pay their bills, can't go to the bathroom, can't

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feed themselves, needs to make sure they go to the doctor, a truly incapacitating condition

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that would not allow you to take care of yourself.

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Yeah, it can be done for really young people as well, like correct if they're in a coma,

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somebody who has severe schizophrenia, who when they have a mental relapse will not enter

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themselves into a facility that can help them because they think that the doctors there

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are aliens who will be performing autopsies on them or something like that or biopsies.

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That's terrifying.

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So yeah, no, so they would put that other person in charge when they have these relapses.

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Okay, that makes sense.

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So it can happen definitely for younger people too.

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But like in a extreme situation, as you pointed out exactly.

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Like I said above, it is said that Britney Spears was put into the hospital.

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She's put on something called the 5150, which is a psychiatric hold for mental evaluation.

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However, the reason for the court's decision to award this conservatorship, while you can

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get access to tons of there's documents, there's here say of why she came into this conservatorship.

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There's no actual official diagnosis or not, which was the cause for them to say this is

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why we need the conservatorship and as granted in Britney Spears is YouTube.

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She put out talking about this after she was freely able to talk after the conservatorship.

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She even said she wasn't sure why she was under it and she was very confused about the

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whole situation.

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She also said when she was first hospitalized by her parents, she was completely sober.

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No drugs in her system, no alcohol, no nothing.

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It was just pure abuse by her parents.

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She said, I think the main thing I do remember when it all started was my dad's want for

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control.

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He loved controlling everything I did.

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Now that's empty of her quote.

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Now barring that diagnosis, I myself feel a little confused about the conservatorship

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because there are tons of mentally ill people functioning in society.

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I would say probably 99.9% not under conservatorships.

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There are people spending money stupidly.

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Again, not under conservatorships.

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I do wonder what made the court rule to place her under this thing because she essentially

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loses all of her freedoms.

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Yeah, you would actually probably be surprised the rate of like child actors that end up

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in this and child stars that end up in conservatorships.

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I think and this is somewhat speculative on my end, very cynic, but it's to protect the

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assets because they have a lot of money that other people make off them.

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Like say the music studio and people that own arenas, people that are in the music industry,

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they want to continue to make money off of this person.

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They don't want to have the liability out there of this person having control over their

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life.

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So they put somebody in a position to maintain a level of monotony in their life and not

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allow them to do things that would lose potential value.

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You bring up a very, very good point.

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Literally that puts it better than I have in this whole thing.

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So I'm glad that you said that.

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So the conservatorship was in charge of literally every aspect of her life, every, but I'm

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going to go through a few things with the conservatorship, which her dad was in charge

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of that included making business decisions, contracts, including albums, residencies,

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that kind of stuff, investment.

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She had no say over where her money was invested, giving detailed financial reports to the courts.

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That included every single penny spent would have had to be detailed, including when she

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would take her sons out and like want to buy them a hot dog, go out for fast food, go to

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a movie, every single cost had to be accounted for.

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Also paying the maintenance of the conservatorship, which took up the largest portion of BS's

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fortune during this time.

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Because you know, acting as a conservator, especially court appointed one, you've got

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to get paid.

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Yeah.

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So whether or not you're in it willingly, she's paying them.

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Yep.

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Because he's doing that duty this court appointed.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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So during this time, this is taking up the largest portion of her money.

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And this is all at the conservators discretion.

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And I don't know about you, but I feel like I would be a lot more liberal with someone

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else's money than I would with my own.

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What do you want your salary to be for this thing that you're required to do by law?

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You get to pick it.

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Yes.

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And you know exactly how much money I have.

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Yeah.

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Some of what his expenses were included a $16,000 per month salary plus $2,000 per month for

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office space and then a percentage of any deal signed for BS.

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And I have to tell you, Taylor, Brittany at this point only has a court appointed lawyer

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representing her because she can't get a lawyer outside of him because he's in charge of conservatorship.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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She doesn't have that choice.

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So she has a point appointed lawyer.

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Meanwhile, he's hiring like the best lawyers for himself that she is paying for.

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Exactly.

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She's paying the fees, which is just ridiculous.

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She's basically paying the fees for the lawyers to fight against what she wants.

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She did eventually petition to get further representation and her dad shot it down saying

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it costs too much money.

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So lots of financially driven things involved like Taylor pointed out the whole entire conservatorship

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maintenance adds up to at least $1.1 million annually, right?

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Or is that over the entire period?

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I'm just trying to think his salary 16.

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I don't know.

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Well, I guess his salary is only just under $200,000 right around $200,000.

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I'm taking it as a whole.

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So I mean, no.

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But $200,000, it goes on for longer than five years.

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That way there will be a million and that would only be his salary.

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There's other things involved in it.

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It's 18 years.

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Yeah.

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So it's way more than a million.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Way more than a million.

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So thanks for bringing that to our attention.

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Okay.

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So she's under the literally my next brush.

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She's under the conservatorship for 13 years.

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And during most of this time she is operating as normal Britney Spears.

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Nobody knows what's going on.

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That I kind of just put on shows.

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Yeah.

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Nobody cares about the stuff I just talked about at this point.

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Everyone's like, Oh my God, conservatorship, but she's acting so normal.

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All the shady stuff is happening in secret and her career seemed to be operating as

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normal to us.

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Normie's.

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Now let's talk about some of the things that her life looked like under the conservatorship.

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She cannot make personal or financial decisions without the oversight of the conservatorship

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her father.

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She can't vote.

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She can't drive.

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She wasn't allowed to see her friends or get married without approval.

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Well, get married.

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No, see your friends.

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No, without approval.

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The conservatorship controls BS as a state, which is valued at about $60 million, which

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actually blows my mind because weren't the dudes that went to the Titanic that like exploded

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were billions.

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Yeah.

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And like Britney Spears doesn't even worth that amount of money.

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Where do you get that money?

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Generational wealth.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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By and the Bastards just did a two part episode on Stockton Rush, the guy who owned the company

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for it.

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Really?

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It's a good listen.

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It's a good listen.

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Oh, I am totally on that.

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I was just listening to the AI one that he put out.

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Anyhow, where were the orcas from that one?

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Nobody was there to see what the orcas were doing.

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It's true.

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It's true.

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If you follow Britney at all, you may know that the control entailed over her even included

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control over her body, such as the birth control she was or was not on.

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Spears also said she was refused to participate in a Las Vegas residency because her therapist

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received a million phone calls that super Canadian a million phone calls about her behavior

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in rehearsals and failure to take her medication.

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Quote, all of this was false.

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He immediately the next day put me on lithium out of nowhere.

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He took me off my normal meds.

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I've been on for five years.

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Spears said adding that the drug was much stronger than what she was used to being on

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and made her feel drunk.

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She said I couldn't even have a conversation with my mom or dad really about anything.

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She said adding that she had doctors and nurses at her home to monitor the medication and

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her dad and force it down.

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I feel about it too because she had to take lithium.

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Yeah.

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Obviously couldn't control any of her money, make any personal decisions, get her nails

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done, change the color of her walls, order a pizza.

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She has millions of dollars but couldn't make the smallest decisions.

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She had her personal phone calls and text messages monitored, which is actually illegal.

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She herself said she was under 24 hours surveillance in her house, even when getting dressed.

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There's that.

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But also under conservatorship, she released three albums, went on a world tour, appeared

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as a judge on X Factor and had a Las Vegas residency.

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So she looked completely put together for the outside world.

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And might I point out that with all of the above, super successful and would have taken

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a lot of discipline and hard work to uphold, not really something someone unable to take

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care of themselves would be able to uphold.

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Somebody able to interact with society on a normal basis.

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Yeah.

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And might I say also continue to make a profit for more than a decade.

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There's that.

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Let's talk about the people surrounding Britney Spears at the time.

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So there's Andrew Wallett, who was the co-Cohen conservator.

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I was about to say conspirator, a conservator.

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I mean, kind of.

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Yeah.

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He was a guardian since the inception of the conservatorship in 2008 to 2019, when he

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resigned a couple of months after he had petitioned for a raise to just about half a million dollars

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a year, which he got weird that he resigned.

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Pin on that thought right there.

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So right there that tells me, yes, probably 1.1 million per year annually that they were

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spending just based on that figure.

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Yes, her dad's salary and office space, of course.

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Also involved Britney's dad, Jamie, just to give you a little background on him and what

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he's up to.

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He was present only intermittently during his daughter's rise to pop stardom.

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He wasn't the one driving her around to all these places.

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And in 2004, according to a court filing, Mr. Spears went to rehab for alcoholism.

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Twice, his first wife had said he had a shitty upbringing.

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And wife Lynn had filed for divorce and a restraining order, citing a fear that he would become

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angry when he is served with these papers and harass or harm her, especially if he has

492
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been drinking alcoholic beverages as he has done in the past.

493
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,320
She had recalled years of verbal abuse, abandonment and erratic behavior.

494
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,800
They did reconcile and then actually a divorce in 2002.

495
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,640
The mom said later that it was the best thing that ever happened to her family.

496
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,000
And Lynn's her mom, correct?

497
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,000
Yes.

498
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,480
She was stressed that she did not want her father in charge.

499
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:04,480
A lawyer she consulted at that time said that the judge overseeing the case, Riva Goetz,

500
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,600
deemed Ms. Spears incapable of hiring her own counsel and appointed Mr. Ingam, the court

501
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,560
appointed lawyer who represented her to this day.

502
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,440
And I'm actually not sure if he was still representing her right up to the end or how

503
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:22,880
long he was because some of this information is from outdated articles to get everything

504
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,040
put together here.

505
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:31,440
The estranged dynamic between the two grew even more complicated after Mr. Spears, J.S.,

506
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:37,760
a recovering alcoholic who was faced with accusations of physical and verbal abuse, took the lead

507
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,280
in wrestling what he saw was his adult daughter's demons.

508
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,040
He was like, I'm here for this.

509
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:50,400
February 2008, according to court records, Judge Goetz deemed Mr. Spears a suitable and

510
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,600
qualified person and granted him broad control over his daughter's daily life and alongside

511
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,480
a co-conservator, her finances.

512
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,400
He has no credentials to basically be doing any of what he's doing other than being her

513
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,400
father.

514
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,480
So they are assuming he has her best interest at heart.

515
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:13,640
During this period, a former nanny and housekeeper for BS claimed that her dad engaged in verbal

516
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:18,040
abuse, tirades, inappropriate behavior, and alcoholic relapses.

517
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:23,200
According to a transcript, she asserted that she had been forced into a mental health facility

518
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:28,080
against her will on exaggerated grounds, which she viewed as punishment for standing up for

519
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,240
herself and making an objection during a rehearsal.

520
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:36,640
She also claimed she had been forced to perform well sick with 104 degree fever, calling it

521
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,760
one of the scariest moments of her life.

522
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:44,960
Ms. Spears court-appointed lawyer said she wanted to explore removing her father of conservators

523
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:50,400
citing his drinking among other objections and a shopping list of grievances.

524
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,640
Last year, again, I'm not sure what year this was.

525
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,760
So sorry, it's good enough.

526
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:01,120
Told the judge that BS was afraid of her father who remains a steward of her nearly $60 million

527
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:02,120
fortune.

528
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:07,080
BS said her father was obsessed with her and wanted to control everything about her.

529
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,560
She could not make friends without his approval.

530
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:14,520
Even as she earned millions from a successful Las Vegas residency, she said she was limited

531
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,200
to a $2,000 weekly allowance.

532
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,960
She described how she was forced to work without access to her credit card, cash, phone, and

533
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,960
passport.

534
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,600
The only thing she said that is similar to this is sex trafficking.

535
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,920
Any mistakes resulted in very harsh consequences for BS adding, according to the report, the

536
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,600
conservatorship came with a lot of fear.

537
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,240
She also said she had weekly meetings that she was to attend that were used as bargaining

538
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,200
tips for her money and freeing.

539
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,560
She said, it's not okay to force me to do anything I don't want to do.

540
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,640
Honestly, I should be able to sue them for threatening me and saying if I don't go to

541
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,640
these meetings twice a week, we can't let you have your money, go on Maui on your vacations,

542
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,640
see your sons.

543
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,240
I don't want to do that and I haven't done anything to deserve this treatment.

544
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,440
So that's kind of what's going on with her and her dad.

545
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,800
Then there's the free Brittany movement.

546
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,360
And this is still kind of under the same category as her dad because we kind of talk about it

547
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:09,360
here.

548
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:13,440
The conservatorship actually came around shortly after the conservatorship in 2009.

549
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,280
I didn't know what was that long.

550
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:21,040
And it was started by a website called breatheheavy.com created by Jordan Miller, putting forth

551
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,560
the movement that Brittany Spears was being held against her will.

552
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,920
Jordan did receive a call from BS's dad threatening to take the website down.

553
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:35,360
BS's dad has said that the conservatorship was a smooth running machine that was doing

554
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:40,560
exactly what it was intended, saving Brittany, but in the end, she had the control to end

555
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,880
it whenever she felt like BS famously stayed silent on the subject other than being perfectly

556
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,880
happy.

557
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,480
However, now that the conservatorship has ended, we have learned differently.

558
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,560
Brittany Spears expressed serious opposition to the conservatorship almost immediately.

559
00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,240
She articulated, she feels the conservatorship has become an impressive and controlling

560
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,480
tool against her.

561
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:07,000
A court investigator wrote in 2016, the system had too much control, too, too much.

562
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,000
She said she wanted the conservatorship terminated as soon as possible.

563
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,320
She is sick of being taken advantage of.

564
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:18,520
And she said she is the one working in earning her money, but everyone around her is on her

565
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,520
payroll.

566
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:24,720
She said she felt forced to perform against her will under the conservatorship and repeatedly

567
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,560
voiced her concerns that Jamie was the gatekeeper of the conservatorship, like we've said many,

568
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,560
many times.

569
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:37,280
Now, I know it seems like I'm kind of jumping around a lot, a bit, a lot in this, but there's

570
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,800
a method to my madness.

571
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,440
And this is all information you're going to need to know getting into what I'm going

572
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,440
to talk about now.

573
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,800
During the conservatorship, the public image of BS's life, a little sense of the turmoil

574
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,880
she was expressing privately.

575
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,800
At the time she was expressing this to the court.

576
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,080
It wasn't in an open court.

577
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,600
We didn't know this.

578
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,880
Something that she was expressing outwardly was very controlled.

579
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,880
Yeah.

580
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,080
Because it was on stages where she was getting paid to make the appearance.

581
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,080
Not only that.

582
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,000
So I'm going to start getting into the Instagram.

583
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,000
And Instagram feed presented her as approachable.

584
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,520
She made videos saying she's okay.

585
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,040
She's never been happier.

586
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,320
It doesn't look anything like what it looks like today, guys.

587
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,200
It was just like kind of fun.

588
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:28,560
Like she's training for her tours, for her residencies, kind of stuff like that.

589
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,720
So foreshadowing, perhaps.

590
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,720
I don't know.

591
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,240
We're bad at foreshadowing here.

592
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,760
We're really good at it.

593
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,520
February 2019, a new lucrative Las Vegas show was set to begin.

594
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,040
They're doing rehearsals.

595
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,400
They do like a public promotional thing with Brittany.

596
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,120
And in front of all these people, she stops and she leaves.

597
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,880
Like right when the event's getting started, she was set to make some sort of speech and

598
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,880
she leaves without saying a word.

599
00:29:53,880 --> 00:30:00,760
Then a month before opening January 4, 2019, BS announced an indefinite work hiatus, canceling

600
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,040
the residency.

601
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:07,240
She says the dad had almost died after suffering a ruptured colon, according to the statement,

602
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,640
which noted that the pair's very special relationship.

603
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,520
Three days after this, Brittany is spotted driving through an in and out drive-through

604
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,360
with her boyfriend at the time, Sam Asgari.

605
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,880
Do you remember that I said driving was a no-no?

606
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,800
Yes.

607
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:22,800
It was a rule.

608
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,600
I'm not sure what rule it was, but it was a rule.

609
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,160
I'm sure there were many rules we weren't aware of that she had to follow.

610
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,160
Sadly.

611
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,040
After this, BS is MIA for months.

612
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,040
Poof, gone.

613
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,040
Her Instagram is silent, where it was pretty regularly updated.

614
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,840
Her boyfriend's not posting anything of her.

615
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,760
Nobody's seeing her anywhere.

616
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,760
She's gone.

617
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:49,520
Shortly after, in March, kind of shortly after, I mean this is in January.

618
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,200
In March, Wallet resigns.

619
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,960
Wallet the co-conservator resigns.

620
00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:00,040
Repin the pin we put down earlier, because this is what he had to say about his resignation.

621
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:05,880
Quote, the conservatorship is engaged in numerous ongoing business activities requiring immediate

622
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,880
attention.

623
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:12,000
It is therefore in the best interest of the conservatee that the acceptance of Wallet's

624
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:17,680
resignation and the issuance of the amended letters of the conservatorship of the estate

625
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,040
occur immediately without delay.

626
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:26,360
Substantial detriment, irreparable harm, and immediate danger will result to the conservatee

627
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:32,320
and her estate if the relief request herein is not granted on an ex parte basis.

628
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,320
End quote.

629
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,320
What do you think of that?

630
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,040
That's a very weird thing to say.

631
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,120
Like something dangerous will happen if I stay in this role.

632
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,620
Basically is what he said.

633
00:31:40,620 --> 00:31:42,840
That sounds like he knows stuff for sure.

634
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,840
Yeah.

635
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,240
There are a lot of people whose ears kind of perk up at this time because she's gone.

636
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,560
Nobody knows where she is.

637
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,120
And I'm assuming as a co-conservator, he knows where she is.

638
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:58,120
So a lot of people's ears perk up and are like, something's not right.

639
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:03,360
Now, continuing on with the timeline happening here, prior to the conservatorship being over,

640
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,640
there was an anonymous voicemail left for a fan podcast called Britney's Gram by someone

641
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,240
claiming to be a paralegal with first hand involvement in the conservatorship.

642
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,480
The guy checks out, they fully vetted him that he is actually this person he says he

643
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:25,080
is and he was and he raised alarms about BS, physically and mental wellbeing and autonomy.

644
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,680
This started some questions being asked.

645
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,640
Her Instagram had been dark for months.

646
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,600
A huge contrast to what it had been previously.

647
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,560
And what the paralegal says on the voicemail is that Britney was in rehearsal for her biggest

648
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:43,280
residency had refused to take some sort of medication that she legally was required to

649
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,280
take.

650
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,120
And the dad says, either you take the medication or your show is off and I'm pulling my support.

651
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,240
Quick pause in that story because Britney Spears tells a slightly different story on

652
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,760
her little YouTube thing she put out after the conservatorship.

653
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,040
And she said she refused to perform a specific dance move in rehearsals.

654
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,880
She said, I remember everything got really weird and quiet and all the directors and

655
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,680
producers went in the back room and just spoken.

656
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,680
That was it.

657
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,360
She said the next day I was told that I was being sent away to a facility and I was supposed

658
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,920
to stay on my Instagram.

659
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,440
The reason was because my dad was sick and I needed treatment.

660
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,640
Spears claimed that she called her father crying, but all he told her was to listen to

661
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,640
the doctors.

662
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,840
You don't have to go, but if you don't go, we're going to go to court and there will

663
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,720
be a big trial and you're going to lose.

664
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,840
I have more people on my side than you.

665
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,120
You don't have any lawyers.

666
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,320
So don't even think about it.

667
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,720
I'm kind of giving away where we're going with that.

668
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,720
I had to get her side of events out after that though.

669
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,160
Okay, back to the paralegal.

670
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,440
Obviously she didn't do it.

671
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,680
And so the show was pulled.

672
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,400
He said, blame it on my illness.

673
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:49,840
BS is still not following through BS is then seen driving a big no, no BS was in the mental

674
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,320
facility since January.

675
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,440
This voicemail was left in April and she was still at the mental health facility with no

676
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,920
apparent end in sight.

677
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,920
She was forced to go April 3rd.

678
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,920
Britney's Instagram posts a little mean and in quotes, it says, we all need to take a

679
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,280
little me time with a happy face emoji.

680
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:16,040
Red flags immediately for anyone that likes Britney Spears because this is clearly not

681
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,360
Britney Spears.

682
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,040
She does not use the smiley face emoji.

683
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,040
She loves emoji.

684
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,040
Not that one.

685
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,040
Like she just put a picture of herself, doesn't she?

686
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,280
Like this is just as calm.

687
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,080
No, she does post a lot of means actually still.

688
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,080
Okay.

689
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,600
This is clearly not her posting here.

690
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:38,680
An hour after this post TMZ is reporting that Britney Spears checked herself into a mental

691
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,720
health facility the week before for a month.

692
00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:47,160
This means that TMZ was being fed information and was outright lying.

693
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:52,800
And her Instagram was obviously being uploaded on her behalf and was made to look as if she

694
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,080
wanted to go to this facility.

695
00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:01,200
It's around this time that mental health starts to become a big thing of people taking time

696
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,560
for mental health, focusing on mental health.

697
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,640
So I think it was kind of meant as a like, yeah, go Britney, like you check yourself into

698
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,760
that mental health if you need it so that people are supporting her instead of being

699
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,400
like, wait, what, what is she doing?

700
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaking of her time in this facility, Spears claimed that she was forced to give six files

701
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,440
of blood every week and work all day without break.

702
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,520
She also claimed that she didn't have a door on her room saying security guards and others

703
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,480
at the facility watched her change naked every day at the facility.

704
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,600
She wasn't allowed to go to her AA meetings and she missed having that support group.

705
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,240
A free Britney movement actually helped her to leave that facility.

706
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:43,560
She says she feels let down by everyone closest to her because her fans were the ones fighting

707
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:48,640
for her to be free when any person close to her could have ended it immediately.

708
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaking on the trauma of the experience Spears says they literally killed me.

709
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,400
They threw me away.

710
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,400
That's what it felt like.

711
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,520
My family threw me away with all of this information coming to light.

712
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,760
Everyone starts asking the few people around her what's going on with Britney.

713
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,840
No one has anything to say for mom, her business manager, Lou Taylor, who's in the loop with

714
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,560
everyone, everyone close to her.

715
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,560
There weren't many.

716
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,040
And this wallet guy backs out at this time and saying like, I don't want to be involved

717
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,040
with this.

718
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,040
Yeah.

719
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,720
This is probably why he wanted out of it.

720
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:23,760
He didn't want any liability that went along with it.

721
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:24,760
Probably.

722
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:25,760
I think I talk about it.

723
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,760
Let's wait and see.

724
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,160
The leaks continue from the paralegal.

725
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,680
He went on to say about wallet resigning.

726
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,360
The reason everything happened so fast is because he didn't want any stir of liability

727
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,760
with this whole fiasco.

728
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,000
I wouldn't say he's on Britney's side, but he was definitely uncomfortable with her being

729
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,120
forced into a mental institution.

730
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,680
It got too messy for him.

731
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,600
It was like, I've done all I can do with this and I'm not about to get disbarred.

732
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,600
Yeah.

733
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,240
So that was what the paralegal said.

734
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:55,640
He went on to say that this was said in a meeting quote at the very least, this will

735
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,720
help with ticket revenue when we were announced Vegas and quote, he went on to say that management

736
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:04,560
has final say in what stays in the interviews and what stays out.

737
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,920
You should see the behavior of them whenever she is booked on something with a live audience.

738
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,800
They're freaked the fuck out because whatever leaves her mouth can't just be edited out.

739
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,960
Studies have spoken out about Britney Spears under the conservatorship.

740
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:23,480
Carson Daly for one tweeted quote, I was told my Britney Spears interview tomorrow on AMP

741
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:29,640
radio must be pre-recorded and submitted for approval by her management before it can

742
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,360
air F that never been restricted.

743
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,600
Even when I interviewed Michael Jackson, it wasn't anything like this.

744
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,880
It's really insane.

745
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:42,720
One person tweeted he was acting a professional to which daily replied quote, I'm unprofessional

746
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:47,700
faking an entire interview just shocked her management won't let her do normal interview.

747
00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:52,320
She probably doesn't even know I've known and supported her since she was 15.

748
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,920
This has nothing to do with her.

749
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,560
Just her people Iggy is a Leah who I'm totally not familiar with and released a song with

750
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:03,800
Britney Spears and she says she signed a non disclosure and her father could and probably

751
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,860
would sue her.

752
00:38:04,860 --> 00:38:09,480
She said quote personally witnessed the same behavior Britney detailed in regards to her

753
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,480
father.

754
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,040
She says it human decency to at the very least remove a person Britney has identified as

755
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,640
abusive from her life.

756
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,840
This should be illegal.

757
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,320
During the time we work together in 2015 I personally witnessed the same behavior Britney

758
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,960
detailed in regards to her father last week and I just want to back her up until the world

759
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,960
she's not exaggerating or lying.

760
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,720
I saw her restricted from even the most bizarre and trivial things like how many sodas she

761
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:34,800
was allowed to drink.

762
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,360
Why is that even necessary?

763
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:41,880
Her father conveniently waited until literally moments before our VMA performance when I

764
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,040
was backstage in the dressing room and he told me if I didn't sign the NDA he would

765
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,680
not allow me on stage.

766
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:48,680
That's a power trip.

767
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,160
The way he went on about getting me to sign a contract sounded similar to the tactics

768
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,680
Britney spoke about last week in regards to her Las Vegas show.

769
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,520
Jamie Spears had a habit of making people sign documents while under duress it seems

770
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,160
and Britney Spears should not be forced to coexist with that man while she's made it

771
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,960
clear it is negatively impacting her mental health.

772
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,320
This is not right at all.

773
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,160
End quote from Iggy Azalea.

774
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,560
From those who don't know Iggy's contract signing comment was in regards to Britney saying

775
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,000
she was forced to sign a contract to go on tour immediately after leaving the stage.

776
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,240
In her testimony Britney Spears said he handed me a sheet of paper as I got off stage in

777
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:26,640
Vegas and said I had to sign it.

778
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,440
It was very threatening and scary and with the conservatorship I couldn't even get my

779
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,520
own attorney so out of fear I went ahead and did the tour.

780
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,080
The paralegal goes on to say the conservatorship was supposed to end after her circus tour

781
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,480
in 2009.

782
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,680
It was go on tour show us that you're stable and well and this conservatorship will help

783
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,200
you gain custodial rights of your children.

784
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:52,280
If you see any footage of her on the fam Fetal tour I don't know what one that is I'm sorry.

785
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,360
It's limited because she appears to be extremely sluggish and extremely medicated.

786
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,360
Her and everyone's understanding was that Mr. Spears would petition the court to end

787
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,800
the conservatorship after the circus tour.

788
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,240
That didn't happen and from what I understand BS had another sort of mental break.

789
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:14,560
Now this mental break to me would most likely be as a result of the conservatorship not

790
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,200
ending when it was supposed to be only a year.

791
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,640
Oh yeah if you hear that you're like about to be out of jail on this day and then on

792
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,520
that day they say sorry you actually have like a life prison.

793
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,520
It's indefinite.

794
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,520
Yeah.

795
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,000
Again empathizing with her on that one.

796
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:33,200
I would have if I was presented with most of the stuff I've said in this episode I would

797
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,880
be having many a mental break.

798
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:41,160
So he then says that they vet every single person that comes into contact with Britney

799
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:46,240
Sears and essentially the reason behind everything is money as you pointed out.

800
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:48,000
She was alone essentially.

801
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,000
She had no one.

802
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,560
The people closest to her were taking advantage of her.

803
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,560
That's not only that.

804
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,040
Would she was talking about being removed from that like Vegas rehearsal.

805
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,480
The threat was we won't let you do this and that would be her only chance to interact

806
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,880
with people who aren't just part of this conservatorship or be in prison basically.

807
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,800
So that was like taking away her yard time.

808
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,800
That's true.

809
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,120
Like she is in solitary confinement basically.

810
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,120
It's ridiculous.

811
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,760
Oh it's really bad.

812
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:19,720
So anyhow with this whole Las Vegas story that I just told you she's in a mental health

813
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:23,200
facility for months and it was very secretive.

814
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,840
This is where they put out the Instagram that's clearly not Britney Spears.

815
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,960
She puts out an Instagram saying you know guys I'm okay.

816
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,240
I've never been happier blah blah blah.

817
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:39,360
This is where everyone starts reading into the little details Britney Spears is posting

818
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:44,560
on her Instagram because everyone was thinking that the social media posts she was making

819
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:50,000
since the blackout were off and they ended up getting all of this confirmation that she

820
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:55,320
was lying saying she was happy that someone else was actually posting on her behalf because

821
00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:01,040
she was forcibly put into a mental institution and that is where we're leaving off for next

822
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,040
week.

823
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,640
That was my natural ending point.

824
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,720
Wow that's a great spot to end it.

825
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:08,520
Let's have a little bit of a cliffhanger here.

826
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,560
The end of the conservatorship and see what happens from here.

827
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,560
Yeah let's do it.

828
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:13,560
Let's see.

829
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,360
I have been Taylor here with Chelsea.

830
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,680
We are Journey to the Fringe.

831
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,560
Thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week.

832
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,560
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833
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:24,320
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834
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:30,360
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