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Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe.
We are to the fringe what Lasagna is to Mondays.
Or something like that.
I haven't read Garfield in a while, I'm not going to lie.
We are, you're at Sunday Comicless hosts, Taylor and Chelsea.
Today, we are going to take a roundabout way to look at assholes of the UFO community, Chelsea.
Hooray!
We're not going to get to them today, but Chelsea, you're going to get really excited about this episode.
We are going to be talking about Project Serpo.
Oh, yay!
One of my favorite stories.
It's a fantastic one and this is going to be a multiple part episode, likely two.
Today, all we're going to do is actually talk about the story of Project Serpo itself.
Okay.
We're going to all be found.
Chelsea, I do not want you to go to this website at this time because that's going to be part
two that we're going to look at it.
But it's all on a website called Serpo.org.
It was organized all about all this information that came out about it.
There's just a few names that come up in it that we're going to get to.
But without further ado, all I'm going to do is go right through the website, Project
Serpo, and we're going to go through the story as it unfolds.
Okay, so there's a website for this.
Serpo.org, yes.
Do not go to this website.
That is for part two.
Okay.
Serpo.org has its introduction right at the top.
It was put together by Bill Ryan.
His claim to fame is he's part of a project Camelot.
Likes his projects, I guess.
Yeah, I was just going to say he sounds very familiar.
This all starts in 2005.
So right off the start, we're just going to start with the introduction.
This site is not authored by anyone with direct access to confidential information.
Rather, its purpose is to present to the public information that has been released and to
examine that information in a clear, balanced, and intelligent light.
The information began to be released on November 2, 2005 by a retired senior official within
the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency, DIA, who calls himself, quote, anonymous, end quote.
Until he chooses to make his name known, this is the way that he will be represented here.
Anonymous reports that he is not acting individually and is part of a group of six DIA personnel
working together as an alliance.
Three current and three former employees.
He is the chief spokesman.
Off to an including December 21st of 2005, the information was released in installments
on a private UFO email list moderated by Victor Martinez.
This name is always referenced when Project CERPO comes up.
No idea who Victor Martinez is.
I couldn't find anything about him.
He apparently just ran a UFO email chain that he would send out like weekly emails.
And it started with him and it moved on to Bill here.
But it's not that important.
The list at that time contained about 150 people, including many extremely well-known
names within the UFO research, community and related or leading edge scientific fields.
Until permissions are granted, their names will be withheld out of courtesy and to respect
confidentiality.
Those on the list have differing views regarding the veracity of the anonymous claims.
However, the pedigree of the list as a whole is important to emphasize.
There have been a substantial amount of intelligent discussions about the revelations.
It's important to state that there are many senior people in the U.S. intelligence and
military community who are taking this information very seriously.
It may now be time to release this information to a wider audience in close approximation
to the format in which it was originally made available.
After December 21, there was a long gap in the postings and many concluded that anonymous
had gone to ground or stopped his disclosures completely.
There was no communication from him of any kind and finally on January 24, information
was received by Bill Ryan, the author of his website, which was not initially sent to Victor
Martinez.
Subsequent information was also received by Bill Ryan and posted to his website accordingly.
From sending the information to Victor Martinez, anonymous wrote 85% of the material.
Now that 13% came from another source directly connected with the project and the final 1-2%
came from a ghost who canceled his email account as soon as he sent his information.
He does not yet know whether this pattern will continue.
Oh shit, that's terrifying.
Just so everybody knows, if you ever need just an anonymous email, there's something
called 10 minute mail, like literally just type in 10 minute mail into Google and it's
a website that will create an email that only needs to last for 10 minutes and then it will
never exist again.
So it's not that terrifying or hard to do.
Oh, it was ghosts that scared me.
Okay, yes, there's ghosts involved here.
Oh, right here, it's counting down.
Yeah.
I have no inbox.
Okay, email.
You know what, let's just get right into this start.
So this is the first email that gets sent to Victor Martinez that gets sent out to all
these people on this email list.
First, let me introduce myself.
My name is Request Anonymous.
So not actually anonymous.
He says Request Anonymous and they're both capitalized.
Okay, that's weird.
I am a retired employee of the US government.
I won't go into any details about my past, but I was involved in a special program.
As for Roswell, it occurred, but not like the storybooks tell, there are two crash sites.
One Southwest of Corona, New Mexico and the second site at Polona Peak, South of DeTile,
New Mexico.
The crash involved two extraterrestrial aircrafts.
The Corona site was founded day later by an archeology team.
The team reported the crash site and a deputy arrived the next day and summoned a state
police officer.
One live entity that we call EBE was found hiding between a rock.
The entity was given water but declined food.
The entity was later transferred to Los Alamos.
The information eventually went to Roswell Army Airfield.
The site was examined and all evidence was removed.
The bodies were taken to Los Alamos National Laboratory because they had a freezing system
that allowed the bodies to remain frozen for research.
The craft was taken to Roswell and then on to Wright Field, Ohio.
The second site was not discovered until August of 1949 by two ranchers.
They reported their findings several days later to the Sheriff of Katerin County, New
Mexico.
Because of the remote location, it took the Sheriff several days to make his way to the
crash site.
Once at the site, the Sheriff took photographs and then drove back to DeTile.
Sandia Army Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico was then notified.
Our cover team from Sandia took custody of all evidence including six bodies and the
bodies were taken to Sandia Air Base but later transferred to Los Alamos.
The live entities established communication with us and provided us with the location
of his home planet.
The entity remained alive until 1952 when he died.
But before this death, he provided us with a full explanation of the items found inside
the two spacecrafts.
One item was a communication device and the entity was allowed to make contact with this
planet.
Somehow, I never knew this information but a meeting date was set for April of 1964 near
Ala, Magordo, that I think that's right, New Mexico.
The aliens landed and retrieved the bodies of their dead comrades and information was
exchanged.
Communication was in English, the aliens had a translation device.
In 1965, we had an exchange program with the aliens.
Carefully selected 12 military personnel, 10 men and 2 women.
They were trained, vetted and carefully removed from the military system.
The 12 were skilled in various specialties.
Near the northern part of the Nevada test site, the aliens landed and the 12 Americans left.
One entity was left on Earth and the original plan was for 12 people to stay 10 years and
then return to Earth.
But something went wrong.
The 12 remained until 1978 when they were returned to the same location in Nevada.
Seven men and one woman returned.
Two died on the aliens' home planet and four others decided to remain according to the
returnes.
Of the eight that returned, all have died and the last survivor died in 2002.
Just so it's clear, I think what he's saying here is that eight returned but of those,
two of them were dead but they were returned and the other four stayed.
Okay, that makes sense.
The returnes were isolated from 1978 until 1984 at various military installations.
The Air Force, Office of Special Investigations, was responsible for their security and safety.
They also conducted debriefing sessions with the returnes.
I have never seen or read anything about the exchange program.
I once heard a little bit of information from Linda Howe but she didn't have much info.
I've monitored your emails for about six months.
I've read emails from you and others but I've never seen nor heard the truth about
the Roswell incident or the exchange program.
I'd like to hear what others have to say about this.
So that is the first official mention of this.
It's from a completely anonymous source and that's what he says it is.
Okay.
At this point, it's not called Serpo either.
That's just what they say.
Yeah, okay.
And then because it's in an email chain, there is back and forth within it.
So as we go forward in this, sometimes he's going to be referring to people in emails
just so you know.
It's an email chain but it's with an email from a ghost.
One of them is.
Like he said, like one to two percent of them were received from that email.
So that's the first post.
It was on November 2nd.
Then on November 4th, we get the next one.
Paul is not correct.
There are two females, one being a doctor and the other being a linguist.
The Eben planet is located within a solar system of the Zeta reticular star system.
The planet had two suns but their angles were small and allowed some darkness on the planet
depending on one's location.
The planet was tilted which allowed the northern part of the planet to be cooler.
The planet was a little less than the Earth's size.
The atmosphere was similar to Earth's and contained the elements Chon which he puts
but it's carbon hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen.
Zeta reticulars approximately 37 light years from Earth and it took our team in an Eben
craft nine months to travel the distance.
During the trip, each of our team members were frequently dizzy disoriented and suffered
headaches.
The craft did not go through any weightlessness during the trip and the craft was very large
and allowed the team to exercise.
Once the team arrived on the Eben planet, it took them several months to adjust the atmosphere.
During this adjustment period, they suffered headaches, dizziness, and disorientation.
The bright sun of Eben planet also presented problems.
Although they had sunglasses, they still suffered from the bright sunlight and the dangers of
sun exposure.
The radiation levels of the planet was a little higher than that of the Earth and they were
careful to cover their bodies at all times.
The Eben's had no form or refrigeration except in industry which I find hilarious.
I guess for MRIs like you need super chilling, that's what they mean for the process of creating
things and for science.
So they have the technology they just choose to not?
They just don't.
Yeah.
They just don't.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
The temperature of the planet at the center portion stayed around 94 to 115 degrees Fahrenheit
which is between 35 and 45 degrees.
They did have clouds in rain but not frequently and at the northern hemisphere of the planet
the temperatures dropped to between 55 and 80 degrees which is like 15 to 25 degrees.
This was too cool for the Eben's or at least most.
Our team did find evens living in the north but in very small villages.
Our team eventually located to the north in order to stay cool and the ground transportation
used by our team was similar to a helicopter.
The power station was a sealed energy device that provided electrical power and lift for
the craft.
It was very easy to fly and our pilots learned systems within days.
The Eben's did have vehicles which floated above the ground and did not have any tires
or wheels.
There were leaders but no real form of government.
There was virtually no crime seen by the team and they had an army which also acted as a
police force but no guns or weapons of any type were seen by our team.
They were regularly meeting within each small community.
There were regular meetings within each small community and there was one large community
which acted as a central point of the civilization.
All the industry was at this one large community and there was no money.
Every Eben was issued what they needed no stores or malls or shopping locations and
there were central distribution centers where Eben's would obtain items of needs.
All Eben's worked in some capacity.
Children were kept at very isolated and the only trouble our team members got into was
when they attempted to photograph Eben children.
The army politely escorted them away and cautioned them not to do it again.
That's the end of that one.
The one thing I actually want to know about they said crime was virtually not seen by
this group.
So I want to know what crime they actually saw.
It's true.
People are going to ask questions if you say that.
I always love this.
Speaking about this.
Oh yeah and it's hilarious how specific the story is.
You gotta be specific.
Just like you gotta be specific in your numbers.
Exactly.
And speaking of specific numbers.
The next one on November 5th is statistics on the Eben planet.
They were collected by our team and here's the pertinent data for your UFO Threadlist.
Diameter 7218 miles.
Mass 5.06 x 10.24.
Distance from the Sun 1 96.5 million miles.
Sun number 2 91.4 million miles.
Moon 2 surface gravity 9.6 meters per second squared which is close to ours 9.8 meters
per second squared.
Rotation period 43 days.
Orbit 865 days.
Tilt 43 degrees.
Temperature minimum 43 max 126.
Distance from Earth 38.43 light years.
Planet named by team.
Serpo.
Nearest planet to Serpo.
Auto.
Distance 88 million miles colonized by ebens with research base but no natural inhabitants
on planet.
Number of planets in even solar system 6.
Nearest inhabited planet to Serpo the name Silas.
Silas is made up of creatures of various types but no intelligent life forms and ebens use
the planet to mine minerals.
Distance to that one 434 million miles.
We did have visitors from 9 other star systems and the greys which some people characterize
as being like the ebens were not.
They came from a planet near Alpha Centauri A. There's a third class of visitors that
came from a G2 star system in Leo and another class of visitors came from a G2 star system
in Epsilon Aridani.
The visitors were classified by a code.
The codes which was classified in itself was extraterrestrial entities ETE.
ETE2 were the ebens which EBE is what he calls them but after this he calls them ebens.
The greys were ETE3 and so on.
The red book lists 9 different visitors and we determined recently that some of the visitors
were the same type of race but a mechanical life form and they were hybrid beings that
were created in the laboratory rather than by natural birth.
The creatures were more like robots and although they were intelligent it could make decisions
they might be the hostile visitors that some people report.
To the best of my knowledge we have not had any visitations since 1985 from the ebens.
We don't read all of them because there's a ton and it would take a long time to actually
get through all of them so I'm just kind of picking the highlights from here.
This is November 9th the Force Post by Anonymous in 2005.
Thanks for forwarding my information to your email list without IDing me.
I realize it might be a little difficult for you to keep my name confidential with the
mounting pressure enormous but I don't wish to reveal it at this time.
Perhaps to Richard C. Doty in due time as his questions and online demeanor seem to
be the most fair open-minded and his questions posed were the most reasonable as I monitor
the online feedback after each new posting.
Shut up is this guy anonymous?
Yeah this is the anonymous one.
This guy is Richard Doty.
This is Richard Doty.
I also realize your list of quizzical people have numerous probing questions.
I'll try to answer them but you must understand that all of this information is contained
in a huge volume voluminous book.
There are literally hundreds of pages of scientific calculations trying to understand
CERPO, the orbit and everything else.
I could not possibly relate all the information via email.
Our scientists had the same questions as posed by your audience.
Our scientists questioned our team members and the information they gathered.
Our scientists could not understand how the orbit of CERPO could have revolved around
the two suns at the distance measured.
In the end our scientists found that some things relating to the particular system was
different in physics compared to our system.
And there were some questions about how our team measured the orbit and other calculations
based on the lack of stable time base for some reason and I don't think this was ever determined.
Our time instruments did not work on CERPO.
Without considering this, you can understand the difficult job our team members had making
calculations without time.
They had to come up with an alternative method to measure speeds and orbits.
Challenge.
Try to solve a problem in physics without being able to measure time on Earth.
So you see, our team did the best they could with the instruments they had and the hardships
they developed attempting scientific calculations.
It is difficult for any Earth based scientists to understand the different physics in other
solar systems or on other planets.
And one of the questions sent to me involved Kepler's Law of Monetary Motion.
Our team had that information.
We had some of the best military scientists on the team.
But if you consider Kepler's Law, it requires time and our team could only measure time
in the conventional way.
It was determined that Kepler's Law did not apply to that solar system.
Which by the way, they put Kepler's Law right here.
There are edits.
The first law states that planets move on an elliptical path with the sun at one focus
point.
Law two states that a planet moves faster when closer to the sun and slower when further
away.
And law three makes it possible to calculate a planet's relative distance from the sun.
Actually the law states that the cube of a planet's average distance from the sun is
equal to the square of the time it takes for the planet to complete its orbit.
Okay, and that doesn't apply to the solar system?
No.
Apparently because we need time to measure it and they didn't have time.
Because we use like Earth is all based around basically our orbit and our rotation around
the sun.
This doesn't actually make any sense though because like they've been talking a long time
and I'm not a physicist but you can use quasars as a very consistent timing base.
So I've heard that consistently from astronomers and physicists so this just straight up isn't
true.
I mean that makes sense what you're saying.
And there's an excellent addition here in what they're saying.
I mean physics is physics, wouldn't it be universal?
I can't say.
When you actually look at it a lot of physicists will say it's not necessarily universal but
we don't know.
We just don't know.
That's true.
And plus we're looking at it in our solar system on our planet so.
Exactly.
We'll be different somewhere else.
Okay.
So this was estimated to be about 3 billion years old.
The two suns were about 5 billion years old but only by estimation.
The even civilization was estimated to be about 10,000 years old and they evolved from
another planet not on CERPO.
The original home planet the evens was threatened with extreme volcanic activity and the evens
had to relocate to CERPO in order to protect their civilization.
This occurred about 5,000 years ago.
The evens had a great interplanetary battle with another race about 3,000 years ago and
the evens lost many thousands in their battle.
The evens completely eliminated all of their enemies and the evens never fought another
war since.
The evens have been space travelers for the past 2,000 years and the evens first visited
Earth about 2,000 years ago.
The even civilization was so structured that they planned the birth of each and every child
spacing them apart to allow the proper social grouping of the civilization.
Even children matured at a super rate compared to the earth children and our team watched
live births attended by an even doctor and then watched the development of the child over
a period of time.
During members time they matured at an alarming rate.
Evens had scientists, doctors and technicians and there was one educational facility on
the planet.
If one was chosen you attended the facility and learned the job one was best qualified
and suited for.
Although it was extremely difficult to judge or measure, the team estimated each evens
a hue to be 165.
No idea how.
I like how that was set up.
Yeah.
The even had no single ruler, there was a council of governors which the team named
and the group controlled every single action on the planet.
The members of the council seemed to have been around for a long time since evens didn't
age or at least our team couldn't detect aging.
It was difficult to judge the age of each member.
There were about 100 different villages or living locations for the evens and the evens
only use a small portion of their planet.
They didn't mind minerals in remote areas of the planet and had a large industrial plant
in the southern portion of the planet near a body of water and our team determined this
plant had some sort of hydroelectrical operations.
Our team's living quarters which consisted of several small buildings contained electricity
powered by a small box.
This small box supplied all the power our team needed.
Ironically, the electrical equipment our team brought to the trip worked using their own
power solar only.
Evens did die and our team members saw deaths, some from accidents and some from natural
causes.
They even buried the bodies similar to our method.
Our team saw two air accidents involving their intra-planet flying vehicles.
Apparently they have them but they're just like not great at piloting them.
They crashed on our planet, they crashed there all the time.
The evens worship a supreme being and it appears to have some sort of deity relating to the
universe.
They conducted daily services normally at the end of the first work period and they had
a building or church they entered to worship.
Our team left Earth in a large even spacecraft and flew to Serpo in approximately 9 months
by our team's measurement of time.
Upon our team's return they traveled on a new even craft in the time estimated by our
team for the return was 7 months.
So technology really improved in those 10 years.
Believe it or not, are you know how when you're like flying to...
Oh yeah, it's up to Serpo and it's down here.
Yeah, exactly.
With the wind stream.
Yeah.
So that's the end of that one.
The next post thing is on November 13th.
Thank you for your cooperation and your display regarding my information.
Your attention to this matter is highly and greatly appreciated.
I sometimes type faster.
That's a thing and thus my fingers make the grammar spell-a-gares.
Which by the way, this is rife with cellular.
He's typing too fast.
Yeah, he's just going too fast.
Too many thoughts to get out.
I love this one.
My colleagues and I are discussing several different options regarding the release of
this information.
First we must obtain proper sanctions from past officials.
The group called MJ12, which I don't think we specifically done an episode on, but is
Majestic 12.
It's come up.
It has come up.
Maybe we do an episode on it soon.
It came up in Richard Doty.
Yeah.
Man, what is up with these episodes?
Yeah, so this guy definitely is Richard Doty.
He's definitely Richard Doty, right?
But for the sake of clarity, we'll just call them MJ12.
The actual name of the group was Who Controlled, Managed, and Oversaw the Serper Project.
It was called Blank Blank.
And it's just like, Kelsey, I just need to share my screen for a second.
Like you need to see this.
It is literally blank blank.
Oh, yep.
It's literally like it's literally just empty lines.
Yeah, it's line line.
Okay.
It would have been better if he made it with the spaces for like Hangman.
Many have died, but we still have a few around.
We are asking their approval for release.
Next, we must obtain current official sanctions.
And this may be a little more difficult.
Current DIA officials have very little knowledge of the subject matter.
However, we will move ahead with our plans.
Our main supporter is blank blank blank.
A former director of blank.
He is in our corner and will support our gradual release plan.
We are also considering your suggestion of releasing 100 key pages out of the 3000 to
you and then you're forwarding them around the country to the six key individuals you
named in your email.
Dr. Blank Blank.
Blank Blank.
Blank Blank and Blank Blank.
Of individuals, I agree with you that it would be manifest importance to have someone like
Dr. Blank Blank.
That's the stature of prominence in the scientific community come on board and in the loop to
not only give credibility to the program release, but also to assist in explaining the complex
scientific physics theories and principles to the lay person.
And just so that we're on the same page, I bet you one of those Dr. Blank Blanks is
Dr. Stephen Greer.
Is that guy comes up adjacent to this?
Do you think that there is an actual doctors that they were trying to say or do you just
think they're like fuck it?
Let's throw in a few titles.
Yeah.
Just so it seems like we have all these people we're going to release.
I really like that you can't name it, but he knows that these people will be offended
if their doctor title was not included in their plan.
Yeah, most doctors are.
And that's the end of that one.
And then the sixth one comes on November 14, 2005.
You will be honored one day for providing assistance in our release of information.
Many thanks.
I do not feel that a dialogue or argument with non-believers would benefit our cause.
They have the right to criticize our information, but none of them will ever be involved in
the final process.
This was a gigantic problem to say the least.
It took our linguists and sorry, this is like him answering some of the questions that are
coming up.
And I think the question is like, how did you communicate?
This was a gigantic problem to say the least.
It took our linguists, specialists several years to adequately establish a form of communication
with the evens.
A group of evens learned to understand English and a few other languages.
The group contains the travelers as our team called them.
Our team members connected themselves with the travelers, although the team couldn't
always understand the responses the even travelers understood our team most of the time.
And during this time period, the only exchange of information was simple.
The travelers did not fully understand all words in our language.
Later the evens called our language too complicated and difficult to understand.
Their IQ is 165 for a member.
We eventually determined the even total language to be very complicated and extremely hard
to translate.
We were able to record their language and then play it back, listening to each tonal
dialect in each tonal bar.
Eventually we crudely translated some of the language and we started with simple items
for example, the flying object that they used to travel around their planet on.
Yeah, that's what I would start with too.
And things like houses, roads, foods, clothing, their sun, their planes, etc.
Although we did establish some form of communication that was crude and not always helpful for our
team when something complicated happened.
For example, when our first team member died in an accident, it was hard to communicate
with the evens.
The members died instantly, therefore no medical care was provided.
Our two doctors examined the members' bodies and determined the injuries were consistent
with an accidental fall.
They had to be from their dangerous crafts.
I was just gonna say.
Yeah.
Initially the evens never interfered with our care or offered to provide any of their
medical care.
However, once the evens are very benevolent and caring people, so our team members crying,
the evens stepped in and offered to attempt some sort of medical care.
Although our doctors felt the team was medically dead, they allowed the evens to try their own
medical care.
Most of this was either through sign language or speaking to the travelers who could understand
some English.
The evens transported the team members' body to a remote area for our just community.
And they took the body into a large building, apparently their hospital or medical center.
The evens used a large examination table to view the body.
The evens ran a large bluish green light over the body.
Why do blue lights come up so much?
Is it just because they're so sci-fi?
Probably.
They like look cool.
The evens watched a display that appeared on a large screen that looked like a television
screen and the readouts were in the even written language and thus our team could not understand
it.
However, there was a graphic display similar to a heat beat graph.
Heart beat girl.
They says heat beat.
I think he means heartbeat.
He's a bad spiller, he said.
He's taping his head.
He's just going so fast.
The solid line was not wavering and our doctors understood that meant that same things that
their equipment measured.
The heart was not beating.
Evens administered some liquids through a needle and this was done several times and eventually
the heart started beating.
But our doctors knew their internal organs of the body were damaged but couldn't fully
explain that to the evens.
The evens finally made a sign placing their hands on the chest and bowing their heads.
Our team members knew that meant the body was dead and nothing could be done.
And the evens showed affection to our team during the last work period.
The evens had a ceremony for the dead team member and the same ceremony used when an
even died.
Our team held their own service attended by the evens and the evens were extremely curious
about their religious service.
One team member who was acting as a minister performed a death service and our team was
eternally grateful for the evens caring gratitude of our dead friend.
Our team witnessed an aircraft accident that killed four evens.
The evens performed a form of ritual at the crash site and the evens transported the bodies
to a medical facility and examined the bodies.
Our team members were also allowed to accompany the evens except during the rest period when
the evens closed their doors for privacy.
Our team members saw the sorrow in the eyes of the evens during the death of their own.
And later after the last work period of the day the evens had a funeral at least that
is what our team concluded it was.
The evens bodies were wrapped in a white cloth.
Several types of liquid report over the bodies and large numbers of evens would stand in
a circle chanting.
The sound became almost nauseating to our team members and the ceremony lasted for a
long time.
Finally the bodies were placed in a metal container and buried in a remote location
away from the communities.
After the burial the evens had a feast.
Large shables of food were brought out and everyone ate, danced and played games.
And this occurred at every even death witness by our team.
I don't know how many they witnessed.
Because I thought they said it was pretty damn rare.
This is weird.
Okay.
The individual even families lived a simple life.
Their homes were constructed of clay, some types of materials similar to wood and some
metal.
The houses all looked the same.
They appeared to be something from the southwest looking like adobe which is like the new
Mexico style.
So that's probably why all the aliens are in New Mexico because it looks like it there.
Well that's where Richard Dodie is.
The interior of the house consisted of four rooms.
One sleeping room where all the evens slept in the same room on mats, a food preparation
room, a family room and a small waste room.
This brought up an interesting point for our team.
Evens did not have a physiological need to release body waste as we did.
Evens had small collection locations in their residence for their body waste.
But even body was extremely efficient in processing all food taken in.
Their body waste consisted of a small amount of fecal matter.
Slimmers that of a small cat dropping.
Oh, I'm glad I have this information now.
Chelsea just so that we're both on the same page, I clearly think that Richard Dodie's
typing so fast and he's just looking out his window at the houses of New Mexico and
he also saw his cat pooping beside him and is just wracking his urine of consciousness.
I feel like he's not able to draw from anything that is outside his experience.
Our team members never saw any urine excretions from an even.
On the other hand, our team members waste consisted of bulk quantities of both fecal
matter and urine.
And even had to dig a large waste reception site for our 12 team members waste.
Evens accommodate our team.
Food as I mentioned previously was a problem for our team.
Our members consumed mostly military style sea rations, but eventually had to switch
to even food.
Evens had a variety of food items.
They grew vegetables.
Our team found items similar to potatoes, but they tasted different and they had some
type of lettuce, turnips and tomatoes.
And they were the only items similar to ours.
Evens had other vegetables grown.
Well, it didn't seem to affect their pooping.
So, nope.
That's great.
Our team members never got a real taste for the liquid.
The evens cooked food and they made pots of stew, which were extremely tasteless to our
team.
We used a lot of salt and pepper and they also baked a form of bread.
It was a non-yeast bread and tasted fairly good.
It would cause extreme constipation to our team members and we had to drink large quantities
of water in order to adjust the bread.
But they hated the water and plus they were pooping just fine.
Apparently they were pooping a lot.
They got their hole.
The one common food that evens and our team members liked was the fruit.
The evens ate a great quantity of fruit and the fruit, although different from anything
we saw, was sweet.
Some of the fruit tasted something like melons, while others tasted like apples.
Another problem was water.
The water on Serpo contained a number of unknown chemicals found by our team.
And our team eventually had to boil the water before drinking it.
Seeing this, the evens built a large plant that processed water for our team.
In our team's final report written by the commander, Colonel, the report states that
during the exchange period, he was careful not to use the exact time period.
The team was able to communicate with the evens about 50% of the time and there were
some things that we were never able to communicate.
Our team brought along softball equipment for sporting activity and the evens would
watch the game and laugh out loud.
And even laugh sounded like a high-pitched yell.
So I think they were just yelling at them.
I just asked a question, the water, it said it was made up of chemicals that we don't
know.
Yeah.
But like, I wouldn't expect that if you're boiling water here, that it would take the
hydrogen or the oxygen photos.
Well, no, and water has to be hydrogen and oxygen.
That's what makes it water.
I don't know what they mean by there is other chemicals in it that we didn't know.
Okay, that was my question.
I just don't understand it.
Maybe they're drinking a different form of water or something.
Like physics don't apply there.
Maybe chemistry doesn't apply there.
Yeah.
So anything's water.
It's liquid enough.
Yeah, true.
So I mean, if it's made up of different elements, you wouldn't be expecting to boil that out
of it.
No, exactly.
That's the weird thing.
And like, technically, yeah, it should remove it, but like, we don't know what those chemicals
are.
So how do we actually know what's going to remove it?
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
I just had to bring up that point.
So yeah, they're watching them play softball as we left off.
They're yelling at them, which is laughing apparently.
And eventually the evens started playing the game, but never got used to catching the ball
before it hit the ground.
Our team also played touch football again.
The evens watched the game intensely and then played it themselves.
But again, like softball, the evens never figured out that they had to catch the ball
before it hit the ground.
They're IQ.
And again, IQ 165.
But nerds don't know play sports.
So yeah, it's true.
A horrible drivers and a horrible athletes.
Although our team members honored the privacy of the evens, our team was allowed to witness
births.
And our team snooped around was able to capture the sexual activity of the evens.
Oh my God.
The males and females had similar sexual organs and performed intercourse.
I don't know if they meant like similar sexual organs to us or just they had the same organs
as each other.
That's a that would be a good.
I'm going to repeat that again.
The male and females had similar sexual organs and performed intercourse.
You bring up a good point that doesn't differentiate between what you're saying.
OK, the frequency of sexual activity was not recorded as being as often as our society
performed.
It was believed that they performed the act for pleasure and reproduction.
That's the end of that one.
OK, that's kind of confusing.
That's a confusing one.
OK, next up, November 17, 2005, our team contained two geologists and they were also cross trained
as biologists.
The first thing our geologists did was map the entire planet.
And the first step was to divide the planet in half, thus creating an equator.
And then they established a North hemisphere and South hemisphere with each hemisphere
they equate the creative four quadrants.
Apparently the evens had never done this or thought to map their planet out.
So I'm just assuming this or that they never gave these guys a map because they just wanted
to yell at them all the time.
Yeah, OK.
They were volcanic rock formations and part of the extreme south contained a rock desert.
Temperatures at the South Pole were measured at between 90 and 135 degrees Fahrenheit.
Going further north and from the South Pole in quadrant one, the team found extrusive
rocks.
This indicated some volcanic activity in the area and our team found numerous volcanoes
in this.
And again, sorry, I haven't said this, but that temperature that he just said 135 degrees
Fahrenheit is higher than the maximum temperature that is listed earlier, just so that we're
on the same page.
The radiation levels were lower in the northern hemisphere than at the equator and the southern
hemisphere.
A North Pole contained cold weather and the team saw the first sign of snow.
Like as the snow littered the landscape around the North Pole and the snow measured about
20 feet at its deepest.
And again, this is a place that never went below 55 degrees Fahrenheit, which is well
above freezing.
But the temperature was a constant 33 degrees Fahrenheit, well below the temperature range.
Our team never found the temperature to vary in this region.
The evens could not stand to be in this region for long and they suffered extreme hypothermia.
The team's guide wore a suit similar to a spacesuit with built-in heaters.
Our team found evidence of past earthquakes, fault lines that were found along the northern
tip of the southern hemisphere.
Exploitation was observed along the extrusive rocks, which indicated magma flow in the past.
Our team brought back hundreds of samples of serposoil, vegetation, water, and other
items for testing on Earth.
And during our team's exploration, they discovered numerous types of animals.
The strangest was the beast, which looked like a large ox.
The animal was tamed and never seemed to be hostile.
No idea why they call it the beast then.
You know, a lot of this is reminding me of cone heads.
Another animal looked like a mountain lion but had long fur around the neck.
So like a lion.
This animal was curious but was not considered hostile by the evens.
There's a bit of a break until the next one on November 29th.
I decided to concentrate this release on the team with their selection process communication
problems and the final exchange that they had.
There have been many questions pertaining to these issues.
Background, EB number one provided communication devices that allowed us to contact Serpo.
The communication device was onboard the even spacecraft that crashed in July of 1947 near
Corona.
EB-1 showed us the proper use of this communication device prior to his death.
However, the device did not function properly and no contact could be made with Serpo.
Just prior to EB number one's death, an American scientist from Los Alamos figured
out the device worked and connected an energy source found in the even craft to the communication
device.
With even ones assistance, the language input, several signals were sent during the summer
of 1952 and in fall of 1952 we received several signals on the device.
EB-1 translated the messages and provided us with the information.
EB-1 sent six messages.
The first message was just letting his planet know he was alive and the second message explained
the crash and the death of his crew, which they probably didn't find out to be ordinary.
Third message asked for a rescue craft.
Fourth message suggested a formal meeting with Earth's leaders.
Fifth message is this in the exchange program.
Sixth message provided a landing coordinate for any future rescue or visitation mission
to Earth and the incoming message gave a time and date and confirmed a landing location.
However, once the message was translated by EB-1, it was determined the date was over
ten years away, fearing that EB-1 who was sick at this point did not translate the message
correctly or scientists began to translate the message and based on the even language
that was taught to us by EB-1.
But they only knew basic things like what the plant is called and what the aircraft is
called.
Not like sentence structure.
And apparently he spoke English too but not really and they could only get 50% yeah.
The even sent a message indicating that they would return to Earth on a particular number
date and location that we chose.
The date was April 24th 1964 and the location was in southern sector of White Sands missile
range New Mexico.
Our team planned for two locations.
One cover location at Holloman Air Force Base near Alamo Gordo, New Mexico and the other
which would be the actual landing location was west of Holloman near the southern entrance
of White Sands Army post.
The first even craft entered our atmosphere during the afternoon of April 24th 1964 and
the even craft landed at the wrong location near Socorro, New Mexico.
You're such a man trying.
Our team was in place at White Sands and we were able to communicate a message to the
even craft that they landed at the wrong place.
Even the second even craft picked up the message and landed at the correct location.
At the meeting the even craft landed exactly at the location we sent.
There were 16 US senior government officials on the ground.
Some were political and some were senior officials including military officers.
The evens exited their craft and walked under a pre-located canopy.
The evens gave gifts of their technology and the even had a crude translator device.
It eared to be some sort of microphone with a readout screen.
The senior US officials was given one of the devices and the even kept the other one.
The officials spoke into the device and the screen showed a printout form of the voice
message both in even and in English.
It was crude and hard to understand everything that was said and the exact transcript of the
meeting won't be discussed at this time.
The evens decided to make the exchange but not until the following year.
July 1965 was set and the location decided upon was Nevada test site.
Planners did not wish to keep this same location for fear of something might leak.
And they had trouble finding it.
Like they finally found it.
Why would you change?
The team members were kept at Fort Leavenworth until May 1964 and they were translated to
Camp Perry.
The team was isolated for six months going over the same training they received.
Fine tuning their skills and learning some newer skills.
This gave the team an opportunity to better understand the even language.
Although most of the team members had difficulty learning the language and the two linguists
on the team were able to hone their language skills, which is in contradiction of what
they just said earlier.
In April of 1965 the team was transported to Fort Leavenworth in confined until July
of 1965 and they then were transported to Nevada.
During the exchange only a selected few officials were present.
Other than that the preparation crew of the exchange team, the even craft landed and our
team was placed on board.
Note, one item that was misstated by million earlier emails was the amount of equipment
that was taken to Planet Cerpo by our team.
The correct amount loaded to the even spacecraft was 90,500 pounds of equipment.
You know what that's probably enough.
We've been going on a while so let's kind of hear it.
With that amount of stuff that they're bringing, didn't they say when they went there originally
there wasn't any...
Our source that they could use?
No, when they were flying the aircraft originally on their nine months there wasn't any...
Like what did they say?
Oh god, I have to go real far back.
They said there wasn't any technology on it so that they would stay comfortable.
Oh yeah, I think I know you're talking about the weightlessness.
There was no weightlessness.
Yes, yes.
So when they're bringing that much on board...
It has real weight, yes.
Like a lot of it, okay.
Yeah, actually that's probably why it went faster on the way back to less 90,000 pounds.
Oh no, they brought stuff back though.
Probably 90,000 pounds.
They would have to fill it up the same, right?
Maybe that's why it took them such short amount of time to get back.
But yeah, it continues on this way.
For the most part the ones I skipped don't give you an overview.
It goes into more specific details of things that happened.
Like they talk about the team more, they talk about the training regimen, they talk about
more specific things that happened on Serpo.
This gives you a gist of the original story.
And I don't know if you noticed this Chelsea but there seem to be a few things that just
don't add up well.
And the hilarious thing that the truthful Richard Doty is included in this episode, I
kind of forgot that it's a Richard Doty heavy little arc we're going through right now
on this show.
You know what?
It's always good for us to be talking about Richard Doty.
I had no idea that he had anything was even mentioned in Serpo.
Yeah.
Which is, if he even comes up as them saying like Richard Doty's the best, I'm like red
flake, this is Richard Doty.
Yeah.
It makes sense for it to be Richard Doty this.
Oh yeah, for sure.
And it's so inconsistent.
They list the light years away and then in the actual like data that they give it's a
different amount of light years.
It seems a switch from somebody just conveying information about the team to it being somebody
who's a member of the team who's talking to us.
The voice, the point of view changes.
Yeah.
Like constantly.
That's hilarious.
And I mean that's what you get when you're using disposable email accounts so you can't
look back on what you've already said.
Yeah.
They don't add up and then some of the things are just weird details to include like, oh
it was a mountain lion but had a furrier neck.
Like a lion.
And the evens poop looks like cats.
And then they can't understand the language at all except they studied it like really
hard and actually fully understood it.
Yeah.
And they have an IQ of 165 on average but they can't understand anything.
And they constantly crash their plane.
I love the story of Serpo but when you hear it told anywhere else that's not journey to
the fringe or someone that's going to pick it apart.
It sounds like a cohesive story.
So I love to hear it because you're hearing of an alien planet.
It's such like an extravagant story to listen to.
But yeah, there's holes all over the place.
As soon as he said Richard Dodie I was like, oh man.
I think this is where we end this first episode is just going over the original release.
From here we're going to look at what has happened since January of 2006 when these
stopped coming out and we're going to see what happens to those involved.
Who gets involved and what most people say about this entire story at this time now.
I'm excited.
So this is where we cut it off.
That's a great episode.
Yeah.
And it's going to be a lot of fun to see where this goes.
I have been Taylor here with Chelsea.
We are Journey to the Fringe.
Thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week.
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