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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe.

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Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe.

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We are to the fringe what Lasagna is to Mondays.

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Or something like that.

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I haven't read Garfield in a while, I'm not going to lie.

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We are, you're at Sunday Comicless hosts, Taylor and Chelsea.

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Today, we are going to take a roundabout way to look at assholes of the UFO community, Chelsea.

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Hooray!

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We're not going to get to them today, but Chelsea, you're going to get really excited about this episode.

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We are going to be talking about Project Serpo.

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Oh, yay!

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One of my favorite stories.

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It's a fantastic one and this is going to be a multiple part episode, likely two.

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Today, all we're going to do is actually talk about the story of Project Serpo itself.

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Okay.

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We're going to all be found.

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Chelsea, I do not want you to go to this website at this time because that's going to be part

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two that we're going to look at it.

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But it's all on a website called Serpo.org.

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It was organized all about all this information that came out about it.

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There's just a few names that come up in it that we're going to get to.

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But without further ado, all I'm going to do is go right through the website, Project

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Serpo, and we're going to go through the story as it unfolds.

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Okay, so there's a website for this.

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Serpo.org, yes.

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Do not go to this website.

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That is for part two.

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Okay.

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Serpo.org has its introduction right at the top.

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It was put together by Bill Ryan.

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His claim to fame is he's part of a project Camelot.

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Likes his projects, I guess.

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Yeah, I was just going to say he sounds very familiar.

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This all starts in 2005.

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So right off the start, we're just going to start with the introduction.

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This site is not authored by anyone with direct access to confidential information.

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Rather, its purpose is to present to the public information that has been released and to

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examine that information in a clear, balanced, and intelligent light.

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The information began to be released on November 2, 2005 by a retired senior official within

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the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency, DIA, who calls himself, quote, anonymous, end quote.

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Until he chooses to make his name known, this is the way that he will be represented here.

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Anonymous reports that he is not acting individually and is part of a group of six DIA personnel

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working together as an alliance.

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Three current and three former employees.

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He is the chief spokesman.

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Off to an including December 21st of 2005, the information was released in installments

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on a private UFO email list moderated by Victor Martinez.

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This name is always referenced when Project CERPO comes up.

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No idea who Victor Martinez is.

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I couldn't find anything about him.

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He apparently just ran a UFO email chain that he would send out like weekly emails.

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And it started with him and it moved on to Bill here.

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But it's not that important.

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The list at that time contained about 150 people, including many extremely well-known

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names within the UFO research, community and related or leading edge scientific fields.

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Until permissions are granted, their names will be withheld out of courtesy and to respect

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confidentiality.

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Those on the list have differing views regarding the veracity of the anonymous claims.

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However, the pedigree of the list as a whole is important to emphasize.

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There have been a substantial amount of intelligent discussions about the revelations.

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It's important to state that there are many senior people in the U.S. intelligence and

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military community who are taking this information very seriously.

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It may now be time to release this information to a wider audience in close approximation

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to the format in which it was originally made available.

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After December 21, there was a long gap in the postings and many concluded that anonymous

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had gone to ground or stopped his disclosures completely.

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There was no communication from him of any kind and finally on January 24, information

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was received by Bill Ryan, the author of his website, which was not initially sent to Victor

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Martinez.

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Subsequent information was also received by Bill Ryan and posted to his website accordingly.

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From sending the information to Victor Martinez, anonymous wrote 85% of the material.

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Now that 13% came from another source directly connected with the project and the final 1-2%

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came from a ghost who canceled his email account as soon as he sent his information.

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He does not yet know whether this pattern will continue.

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Oh shit, that's terrifying.

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Just so everybody knows, if you ever need just an anonymous email, there's something

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called 10 minute mail, like literally just type in 10 minute mail into Google and it's

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a website that will create an email that only needs to last for 10 minutes and then it will

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never exist again.

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So it's not that terrifying or hard to do.

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Oh, it was ghosts that scared me.

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Okay, yes, there's ghosts involved here.

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Oh, right here, it's counting down.

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I have no inbox.

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Okay, email.

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You know what, let's just get right into this start.

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So this is the first email that gets sent to Victor Martinez that gets sent out to all

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these people on this email list.

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First, let me introduce myself.

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My name is Request Anonymous.

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So not actually anonymous.

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He says Request Anonymous and they're both capitalized.

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Okay, that's weird.

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I am a retired employee of the US government.

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I won't go into any details about my past, but I was involved in a special program.

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As for Roswell, it occurred, but not like the storybooks tell, there are two crash sites.

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One Southwest of Corona, New Mexico and the second site at Polona Peak, South of DeTile,

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New Mexico.

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The crash involved two extraterrestrial aircrafts.

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The Corona site was founded day later by an archeology team.

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The team reported the crash site and a deputy arrived the next day and summoned a state

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police officer.

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One live entity that we call EBE was found hiding between a rock.

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The entity was given water but declined food.

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The entity was later transferred to Los Alamos.

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The information eventually went to Roswell Army Airfield.

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The site was examined and all evidence was removed.

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The bodies were taken to Los Alamos National Laboratory because they had a freezing system

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that allowed the bodies to remain frozen for research.

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The craft was taken to Roswell and then on to Wright Field, Ohio.

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The second site was not discovered until August of 1949 by two ranchers.

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They reported their findings several days later to the Sheriff of Katerin County, New

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Mexico.

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Because of the remote location, it took the Sheriff several days to make his way to the

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crash site.

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Once at the site, the Sheriff took photographs and then drove back to DeTile.

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Sandia Army Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico was then notified.

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Our cover team from Sandia took custody of all evidence including six bodies and the

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bodies were taken to Sandia Air Base but later transferred to Los Alamos.

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The live entities established communication with us and provided us with the location

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of his home planet.

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The entity remained alive until 1952 when he died.

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But before this death, he provided us with a full explanation of the items found inside

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the two spacecrafts.

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One item was a communication device and the entity was allowed to make contact with this

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planet.

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Somehow, I never knew this information but a meeting date was set for April of 1964 near

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Ala, Magordo, that I think that's right, New Mexico.

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The aliens landed and retrieved the bodies of their dead comrades and information was

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exchanged.

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Communication was in English, the aliens had a translation device.

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In 1965, we had an exchange program with the aliens.

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Carefully selected 12 military personnel, 10 men and 2 women.

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They were trained, vetted and carefully removed from the military system.

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The 12 were skilled in various specialties.

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Near the northern part of the Nevada test site, the aliens landed and the 12 Americans left.

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then return to Earth.

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But something went wrong.

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The 12 remained until 1978 when they were returned to the same location in Nevada.

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Seven men and one woman returned.

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Two died on the aliens' home planet and four others decided to remain according to the

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returnes.

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Of the eight that returned, all have died and the last survivor died in 2002.

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Just so it's clear, I think what he's saying here is that eight returned but of those,

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two of them were dead but they were returned and the other four stayed.

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Okay, that makes sense.

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The returnes were isolated from 1978 until 1984 at various military installations.

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The Air Force, Office of Special Investigations, was responsible for their security and safety.

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They also conducted debriefing sessions with the returnes.

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I have never seen or read anything about the exchange program.

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I once heard a little bit of information from Linda Howe but she didn't have much info.

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I've monitored your emails for about six months.

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I've read emails from you and others but I've never seen nor heard the truth about

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the Roswell incident or the exchange program.

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I'd like to hear what others have to say about this.

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So that is the first official mention of this.

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It's from a completely anonymous source and that's what he says it is.

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At this point, it's not called Serpo either.

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That's just what they say.

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And then because it's in an email chain, there is back and forth within it.

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So as we go forward in this, sometimes he's going to be referring to people in emails

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just so you know.

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It's an email chain but it's with an email from a ghost.

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One of them is.

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Like he said, like one to two percent of them were received from that email.

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So that's the first post.

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It was on November 2nd.

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Then on November 4th, we get the next one.

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Paul is not correct.

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There are two females, one being a doctor and the other being a linguist.

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The Eben planet is located within a solar system of the Zeta reticular star system.

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The planet had two suns but their angles were small and allowed some darkness on the planet

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depending on one's location.

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The planet was tilted which allowed the northern part of the planet to be cooler.

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The planet was a little less than the Earth's size.

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The atmosphere was similar to Earth's and contained the elements Chon which he puts

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but it's carbon hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen.

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Zeta reticulars approximately 37 light years from Earth and it took our team in an Eben

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craft nine months to travel the distance.

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During the trip, each of our team members were frequently dizzy disoriented and suffered

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headaches.

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The craft did not go through any weightlessness during the trip and the craft was very large

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and allowed the team to exercise.

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Once the team arrived on the Eben planet, it took them several months to adjust the atmosphere.

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During this adjustment period, they suffered headaches, dizziness, and disorientation.

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The bright sun of Eben planet also presented problems.

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Although they had sunglasses, they still suffered from the bright sunlight and the dangers of

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sun exposure.

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The radiation levels of the planet was a little higher than that of the Earth and they were

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careful to cover their bodies at all times.

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The Eben's had no form or refrigeration except in industry which I find hilarious.

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I guess for MRIs like you need super chilling, that's what they mean for the process of creating

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things and for science.

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So they have the technology they just choose to not?

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They just don't.

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They just don't.

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The temperature of the planet at the center portion stayed around 94 to 115 degrees Fahrenheit

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which is between 35 and 45 degrees.

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They did have clouds in rain but not frequently and at the northern hemisphere of the planet

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the temperatures dropped to between 55 and 80 degrees which is like 15 to 25 degrees.

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This was too cool for the Eben's or at least most.

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Our team did find evens living in the north but in very small villages.

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Our team eventually located to the north in order to stay cool and the ground transportation

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used by our team was similar to a helicopter.

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The power station was a sealed energy device that provided electrical power and lift for

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the craft.

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It was very easy to fly and our pilots learned systems within days.

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The Eben's did have vehicles which floated above the ground and did not have any tires

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or wheels.

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There were leaders but no real form of government.

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There was virtually no crime seen by the team and they had an army which also acted as a

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police force but no guns or weapons of any type were seen by our team.

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They were regularly meeting within each small community.

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There were regular meetings within each small community and there was one large community

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which acted as a central point of the civilization.

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All the industry was at this one large community and there was no money.

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Every Eben was issued what they needed no stores or malls or shopping locations and

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there were central distribution centers where Eben's would obtain items of needs.

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All Eben's worked in some capacity.

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Children were kept at very isolated and the only trouble our team members got into was

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when they attempted to photograph Eben children.

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The army politely escorted them away and cautioned them not to do it again.

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That's the end of that one.

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The one thing I actually want to know about they said crime was virtually not seen by

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this group.

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So I want to know what crime they actually saw.

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It's true.

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People are going to ask questions if you say that.

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I always love this.

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Speaking about this.

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Oh yeah and it's hilarious how specific the story is.

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You gotta be specific.

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Just like you gotta be specific in your numbers.

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Exactly.

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And speaking of specific numbers.

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The next one on November 5th is statistics on the Eben planet.

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They were collected by our team and here's the pertinent data for your UFO Threadlist.

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Diameter 7218 miles.

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Mass 5.06 x 10.24.

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Distance from the Sun 1 96.5 million miles.

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Sun number 2 91.4 million miles.

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Moon 2 surface gravity 9.6 meters per second squared which is close to ours 9.8 meters

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per second squared.

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Rotation period 43 days.

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Orbit 865 days.

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Tilt 43 degrees.

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Temperature minimum 43 max 126.

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Distance from Earth 38.43 light years.

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Planet named by team.

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Serpo.

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Nearest planet to Serpo.

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Auto.

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Distance 88 million miles colonized by ebens with research base but no natural inhabitants

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on planet.

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Number of planets in even solar system 6.

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Nearest inhabited planet to Serpo the name Silas.

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Silas is made up of creatures of various types but no intelligent life forms and ebens use

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the planet to mine minerals.

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Distance to that one 434 million miles.

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We did have visitors from 9 other star systems and the greys which some people characterize

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as being like the ebens were not.

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They came from a planet near Alpha Centauri A. There's a third class of visitors that

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came from a G2 star system in Leo and another class of visitors came from a G2 star system

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in Epsilon Aridani.

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The visitors were classified by a code.

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The codes which was classified in itself was extraterrestrial entities ETE.

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ETE2 were the ebens which EBE is what he calls them but after this he calls them ebens.

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The greys were ETE3 and so on.

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The red book lists 9 different visitors and we determined recently that some of the visitors

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were the same type of race but a mechanical life form and they were hybrid beings that

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were created in the laboratory rather than by natural birth.

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The creatures were more like robots and although they were intelligent it could make decisions

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they might be the hostile visitors that some people report.

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To the best of my knowledge we have not had any visitations since 1985 from the ebens.

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We don't read all of them because there's a ton and it would take a long time to actually

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get through all of them so I'm just kind of picking the highlights from here.

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This is November 9th the Force Post by Anonymous in 2005.

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Thanks for forwarding my information to your email list without IDing me.

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I realize it might be a little difficult for you to keep my name confidential with the

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mounting pressure enormous but I don't wish to reveal it at this time.

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Perhaps to Richard C. Doty in due time as his questions and online demeanor seem to

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be the most fair open-minded and his questions posed were the most reasonable as I monitor

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the online feedback after each new posting.

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Shut up is this guy anonymous?

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Yeah this is the anonymous one.

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This guy is Richard Doty.

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This is Richard Doty.

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I also realize your list of quizzical people have numerous probing questions.

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I'll try to answer them but you must understand that all of this information is contained

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in a huge volume voluminous book.

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There are literally hundreds of pages of scientific calculations trying to understand

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CERPO, the orbit and everything else.

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I could not possibly relate all the information via email.

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Our scientists had the same questions as posed by your audience.

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Our scientists questioned our team members and the information they gathered.

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Our scientists could not understand how the orbit of CERPO could have revolved around

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the two suns at the distance measured.

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In the end our scientists found that some things relating to the particular system was

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different in physics compared to our system.

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And there were some questions about how our team measured the orbit and other calculations

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based on the lack of stable time base for some reason and I don't think this was ever determined.

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Our time instruments did not work on CERPO.

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Without considering this, you can understand the difficult job our team members had making

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calculations without time.

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They had to come up with an alternative method to measure speeds and orbits.

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Challenge.

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Try to solve a problem in physics without being able to measure time on Earth.

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So you see, our team did the best they could with the instruments they had and the hardships

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they developed attempting scientific calculations.

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It is difficult for any Earth based scientists to understand the different physics in other

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solar systems or on other planets.

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And one of the questions sent to me involved Kepler's Law of Monetary Motion.

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Our team had that information.

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We had some of the best military scientists on the team.

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But if you consider Kepler's Law, it requires time and our team could only measure time

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in the conventional way.

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It was determined that Kepler's Law did not apply to that solar system.

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Which by the way, they put Kepler's Law right here.

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There are edits.

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The first law states that planets move on an elliptical path with the sun at one focus

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point.

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Law two states that a planet moves faster when closer to the sun and slower when further

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away.

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And law three makes it possible to calculate a planet's relative distance from the sun.

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Actually the law states that the cube of a planet's average distance from the sun is

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equal to the square of the time it takes for the planet to complete its orbit.

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Okay, and that doesn't apply to the solar system?

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No.

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Apparently because we need time to measure it and they didn't have time.

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Because we use like Earth is all based around basically our orbit and our rotation around

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the sun.

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This doesn't actually make any sense though because like they've been talking a long time

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and I'm not a physicist but you can use quasars as a very consistent timing base.

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So I've heard that consistently from astronomers and physicists so this just straight up isn't

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true.

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I mean that makes sense what you're saying.

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And there's an excellent addition here in what they're saying.

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I mean physics is physics, wouldn't it be universal?

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I can't say.

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When you actually look at it a lot of physicists will say it's not necessarily universal but

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we don't know.

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We just don't know.

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That's true.

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And plus we're looking at it in our solar system on our planet so.

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Exactly.

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We'll be different somewhere else.

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Okay.

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So this was estimated to be about 3 billion years old.

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The two suns were about 5 billion years old but only by estimation.

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The even civilization was estimated to be about 10,000 years old and they evolved from

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another planet not on CERPO.

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The original home planet the evens was threatened with extreme volcanic activity and the evens

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had to relocate to CERPO in order to protect their civilization.

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This occurred about 5,000 years ago.

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The evens had a great interplanetary battle with another race about 3,000 years ago and

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the evens lost many thousands in their battle.

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The evens completely eliminated all of their enemies and the evens never fought another

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war since.

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The evens have been space travelers for the past 2,000 years and the evens first visited

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Earth about 2,000 years ago.

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The even civilization was so structured that they planned the birth of each and every child

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spacing them apart to allow the proper social grouping of the civilization.

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Even children matured at a super rate compared to the earth children and our team watched

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live births attended by an even doctor and then watched the development of the child over

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a period of time.

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During members time they matured at an alarming rate.

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Evens had scientists, doctors and technicians and there was one educational facility on

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the planet.

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If one was chosen you attended the facility and learned the job one was best qualified

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and suited for.

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Although it was extremely difficult to judge or measure, the team estimated each evens

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a hue to be 165.

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No idea how.

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I like how that was set up.

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Yeah.

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The even had no single ruler, there was a council of governors which the team named

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and the group controlled every single action on the planet.

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The members of the council seemed to have been around for a long time since evens didn't

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age or at least our team couldn't detect aging.

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It was difficult to judge the age of each member.

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There were about 100 different villages or living locations for the evens and the evens

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only use a small portion of their planet.

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They didn't mind minerals in remote areas of the planet and had a large industrial plant

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in the southern portion of the planet near a body of water and our team determined this

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plant had some sort of hydroelectrical operations.

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Our team's living quarters which consisted of several small buildings contained electricity

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powered by a small box.

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This small box supplied all the power our team needed.

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Ironically, the electrical equipment our team brought to the trip worked using their own

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power solar only.

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Evens did die and our team members saw deaths, some from accidents and some from natural

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causes.

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They even buried the bodies similar to our method.

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Our team saw two air accidents involving their intra-planet flying vehicles.

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Apparently they have them but they're just like not great at piloting them.

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They crashed on our planet, they crashed there all the time.

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The evens worship a supreme being and it appears to have some sort of deity relating to the

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universe.

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They conducted daily services normally at the end of the first work period and they had

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a building or church they entered to worship.

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Our team left Earth in a large even spacecraft and flew to Serpo in approximately 9 months

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by our team's measurement of time.

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Upon our team's return they traveled on a new even craft in the time estimated by our

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team for the return was 7 months.

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So technology really improved in those 10 years.

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Believe it or not, are you know how when you're like flying to...

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Oh yeah, it's up to Serpo and it's down here.

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Yeah, exactly.

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With the wind stream.

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Yeah.

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So that's the end of that one.

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The next post thing is on November 13th.

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Thank you for your cooperation and your display regarding my information.

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Your attention to this matter is highly and greatly appreciated.

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I sometimes type faster.

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That's a thing and thus my fingers make the grammar spell-a-gares.

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Which by the way, this is rife with cellular.

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He's typing too fast.

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Yeah, he's just going too fast.

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Too many thoughts to get out.

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I love this one.

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My colleagues and I are discussing several different options regarding the release of

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this information.

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First we must obtain proper sanctions from past officials.

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The group called MJ12, which I don't think we specifically done an episode on, but is

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Majestic 12.

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It's come up.

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It has come up.

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Maybe we do an episode on it soon.

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It came up in Richard Doty.

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Yeah.

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Man, what is up with these episodes?

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Yeah, so this guy definitely is Richard Doty.

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He's definitely Richard Doty, right?

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But for the sake of clarity, we'll just call them MJ12.

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The actual name of the group was Who Controlled, Managed, and Oversaw the Serper Project.

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It was called Blank Blank.

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And it's just like, Kelsey, I just need to share my screen for a second.

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Like you need to see this.

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It is literally blank blank.

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Oh, yep.

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It's literally like it's literally just empty lines.

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Yeah, it's line line.

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Okay.

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It would have been better if he made it with the spaces for like Hangman.

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Many have died, but we still have a few around.

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We are asking their approval for release.

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Next, we must obtain current official sanctions.

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And this may be a little more difficult.

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Current DIA officials have very little knowledge of the subject matter.

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However, we will move ahead with our plans.

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Our main supporter is blank blank blank.

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A former director of blank.

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He is in our corner and will support our gradual release plan.

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We are also considering your suggestion of releasing 100 key pages out of the 3000 to

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you and then you're forwarding them around the country to the six key individuals you

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named in your email.

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Dr. Blank Blank.

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Dr. Blank Blank.

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Blank Blank.

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Blank Blank.

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Blank Blank and Blank Blank.

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Of individuals, I agree with you that it would be manifest importance to have someone like

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Dr. Blank Blank.

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That's the stature of prominence in the scientific community come on board and in the loop to

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not only give credibility to the program release, but also to assist in explaining the complex

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scientific physics theories and principles to the lay person.

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And just so that we're on the same page, I bet you one of those Dr. Blank Blanks is

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Dr. Stephen Greer.

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Is that guy comes up adjacent to this?

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Do you think that there is an actual doctors that they were trying to say or do you just

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think they're like fuck it?

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Let's throw in a few titles.

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Yeah.

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Just so it seems like we have all these people we're going to release.

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I really like that you can't name it, but he knows that these people will be offended

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if their doctor title was not included in their plan.

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Yeah, most doctors are.

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And that's the end of that one.

488
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And then the sixth one comes on November 14, 2005.

489
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,120
You will be honored one day for providing assistance in our release of information.

490
00:22:58,120 --> 00:22:59,120
Many thanks.

491
00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:02,640
I do not feel that a dialogue or argument with non-believers would benefit our cause.

492
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,200
They have the right to criticize our information, but none of them will ever be involved in

493
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,400
the final process.

494
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,360
This was a gigantic problem to say the least.

495
00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:13,040
It took our linguists and sorry, this is like him answering some of the questions that are

496
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,040
coming up.

497
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,240
And I think the question is like, how did you communicate?

498
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,280
This was a gigantic problem to say the least.

499
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,120
It took our linguists, specialists several years to adequately establish a form of communication

500
00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:23,120
with the evens.

501
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:26,480
A group of evens learned to understand English and a few other languages.

502
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,480
The group contains the travelers as our team called them.

503
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,800
Our team members connected themselves with the travelers, although the team couldn't

504
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,080
always understand the responses the even travelers understood our team most of the time.

505
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,920
And during this time period, the only exchange of information was simple.

506
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,320
The travelers did not fully understand all words in our language.

507
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,640
Later the evens called our language too complicated and difficult to understand.

508
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,720
Their IQ is 165 for a member.

509
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,760
We eventually determined the even total language to be very complicated and extremely hard

510
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,760
to translate.

511
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,240
We were able to record their language and then play it back, listening to each tonal

512
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,360
dialect in each tonal bar.

513
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:04,240
Eventually we crudely translated some of the language and we started with simple items

514
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,960
for example, the flying object that they used to travel around their planet on.

515
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,240
Yeah, that's what I would start with too.

516
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,400
And things like houses, roads, foods, clothing, their sun, their planes, etc.

517
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,000
Although we did establish some form of communication that was crude and not always helpful for our

518
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,200
team when something complicated happened.

519
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,320
For example, when our first team member died in an accident, it was hard to communicate

520
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,320
with the evens.

521
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,280
The members died instantly, therefore no medical care was provided.

522
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,720
Our two doctors examined the members' bodies and determined the injuries were consistent

523
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,120
with an accidental fall.

524
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:35,720
They had to be from their dangerous crafts.

525
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,640
I was just gonna say.

526
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,640
Yeah.

527
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,400
Initially the evens never interfered with our care or offered to provide any of their

528
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,400
medical care.

529
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,840
However, once the evens are very benevolent and caring people, so our team members crying,

530
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,880
the evens stepped in and offered to attempt some sort of medical care.

531
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,200
Although our doctors felt the team was medically dead, they allowed the evens to try their own

532
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,200
medical care.

533
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,680
Most of this was either through sign language or speaking to the travelers who could understand

534
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,680
some English.

535
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,520
The evens transported the team members' body to a remote area for our just community.

536
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,200
And they took the body into a large building, apparently their hospital or medical center.

537
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,720
The evens used a large examination table to view the body.

538
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,800
The evens ran a large bluish green light over the body.

539
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,520
Why do blue lights come up so much?

540
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,160
Is it just because they're so sci-fi?

541
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,160
Probably.

542
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,560
They like look cool.

543
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,280
The evens watched a display that appeared on a large screen that looked like a television

544
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,680
screen and the readouts were in the even written language and thus our team could not understand

545
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,680
it.

546
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,360
However, there was a graphic display similar to a heat beat graph.

547
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:30,360
Heart beat girl.

548
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:31,360
They says heat beat.

549
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:32,360
I think he means heartbeat.

550
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:33,680
He's a bad spiller, he said.

551
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,680
He's taping his head.

552
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,840
He's just going so fast.

553
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,800
The solid line was not wavering and our doctors understood that meant that same things that

554
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,040
their equipment measured.

555
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,400
The heart was not beating.

556
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,360
Evens administered some liquids through a needle and this was done several times and eventually

557
00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:48,520
the heart started beating.

558
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,720
But our doctors knew their internal organs of the body were damaged but couldn't fully

559
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,120
explain that to the evens.

560
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:58,320
The evens finally made a sign placing their hands on the chest and bowing their heads.

561
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,720
Our team members knew that meant the body was dead and nothing could be done.

562
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,920
And the evens showed affection to our team during the last work period.

563
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,920
The evens had a ceremony for the dead team member and the same ceremony used when an

564
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,920
even died.

565
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,760
Our team held their own service attended by the evens and the evens were extremely curious

566
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,440
about their religious service.

567
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,920
One team member who was acting as a minister performed a death service and our team was

568
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,560
eternally grateful for the evens caring gratitude of our dead friend.

569
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,520
Our team witnessed an aircraft accident that killed four evens.

570
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,080
The evens performed a form of ritual at the crash site and the evens transported the bodies

571
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,080
to a medical facility and examined the bodies.

572
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,520
Our team members were also allowed to accompany the evens except during the rest period when

573
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,680
the evens closed their doors for privacy.

574
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,920
Our team members saw the sorrow in the eyes of the evens during the death of their own.

575
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:50,160
And later after the last work period of the day the evens had a funeral at least that

576
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,040
is what our team concluded it was.

577
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,120
The evens bodies were wrapped in a white cloth.

578
00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:58,760
Several types of liquid report over the bodies and large numbers of evens would stand in

579
00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,880
a circle chanting.

580
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,160
The sound became almost nauseating to our team members and the ceremony lasted for a

581
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,160
long time.

582
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,640
Finally the bodies were placed in a metal container and buried in a remote location

583
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,120
away from the communities.

584
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,280
After the burial the evens had a feast.

585
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,040
Large shables of food were brought out and everyone ate, danced and played games.

586
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,040
And this occurred at every even death witness by our team.

587
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,640
I don't know how many they witnessed.

588
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,520
Because I thought they said it was pretty damn rare.

589
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,520
This is weird.

590
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,520
Okay.

591
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,840
The individual even families lived a simple life.

592
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,080
Their homes were constructed of clay, some types of materials similar to wood and some

593
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,080
metal.

594
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,320
The houses all looked the same.

595
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,280
They appeared to be something from the southwest looking like adobe which is like the new

596
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,280
Mexico style.

597
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,640
So that's probably why all the aliens are in New Mexico because it looks like it there.

598
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,800
Well that's where Richard Dodie is.

599
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,920
The interior of the house consisted of four rooms.

600
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,680
One sleeping room where all the evens slept in the same room on mats, a food preparation

601
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,480
room, a family room and a small waste room.

602
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,120
This brought up an interesting point for our team.

603
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:58,840
Evens did not have a physiological need to release body waste as we did.

604
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,240
Evens had small collection locations in their residence for their body waste.

605
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,880
But even body was extremely efficient in processing all food taken in.

606
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,920
Their body waste consisted of a small amount of fecal matter.

607
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,920
Slimmers that of a small cat dropping.

608
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,200
Oh, I'm glad I have this information now.

609
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,720
Chelsea just so that we're both on the same page, I clearly think that Richard Dodie's

610
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:24,800
typing so fast and he's just looking out his window at the houses of New Mexico and

611
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,120
he also saw his cat pooping beside him and is just wracking his urine of consciousness.

612
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:34,640
I feel like he's not able to draw from anything that is outside his experience.

613
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,000
Our team members never saw any urine excretions from an even.

614
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,200
On the other hand, our team members waste consisted of bulk quantities of both fecal

615
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,200
matter and urine.

616
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:48,160
And even had to dig a large waste reception site for our 12 team members waste.

617
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,400
Evens accommodate our team.

618
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,640
Food as I mentioned previously was a problem for our team.

619
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,440
Our members consumed mostly military style sea rations, but eventually had to switch

620
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,720
to even food.

621
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,080
Evens had a variety of food items.

622
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,200
They grew vegetables.

623
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,080
Our team found items similar to potatoes, but they tasted different and they had some

624
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,160
type of lettuce, turnips and tomatoes.

625
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,240
And they were the only items similar to ours.

626
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,520
Evens had other vegetables grown.

627
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,840
Well, it didn't seem to affect their pooping.

628
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,840
So, nope.

629
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,560
That's great.

630
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,520
Our team members never got a real taste for the liquid.

631
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,560
The evens cooked food and they made pots of stew, which were extremely tasteless to our

632
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,560
team.

633
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,160
We used a lot of salt and pepper and they also baked a form of bread.

634
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,720
It was a non-yeast bread and tasted fairly good.

635
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,080
It would cause extreme constipation to our team members and we had to drink large quantities

636
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,160
of water in order to adjust the bread.

637
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,400
But they hated the water and plus they were pooping just fine.

638
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,280
Apparently they were pooping a lot.

639
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,640
They got their hole.

640
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,760
The one common food that evens and our team members liked was the fruit.

641
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,200
The evens ate a great quantity of fruit and the fruit, although different from anything

642
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,520
we saw, was sweet.

643
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,040
Some of the fruit tasted something like melons, while others tasted like apples.

644
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,080
Another problem was water.

645
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,840
The water on Serpo contained a number of unknown chemicals found by our team.

646
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,560
And our team eventually had to boil the water before drinking it.

647
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,720
Seeing this, the evens built a large plant that processed water for our team.

648
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,480
In our team's final report written by the commander, Colonel, the report states that

649
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,080
during the exchange period, he was careful not to use the exact time period.

650
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,560
The team was able to communicate with the evens about 50% of the time and there were

651
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,360
some things that we were never able to communicate.

652
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,200
Our team brought along softball equipment for sporting activity and the evens would

653
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,200
watch the game and laugh out loud.

654
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:34,640
And even laugh sounded like a high-pitched yell.

655
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,120
So I think they were just yelling at them.

656
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,680
I just asked a question, the water, it said it was made up of chemicals that we don't

657
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:43,680
know.

658
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,680
Yeah.

659
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,120
But like, I wouldn't expect that if you're boiling water here, that it would take the

660
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,720
hydrogen or the oxygen photos.

661
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,800
Well, no, and water has to be hydrogen and oxygen.

662
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,920
That's what makes it water.

663
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,360
I don't know what they mean by there is other chemicals in it that we didn't know.

664
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,360
Okay, that was my question.

665
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,200
I just don't understand it.

666
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,520
Maybe they're drinking a different form of water or something.

667
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,240
Like physics don't apply there.

668
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,080
Maybe chemistry doesn't apply there.

669
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,080
Yeah.

670
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,080
So anything's water.

671
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,080
It's liquid enough.

672
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,080
Yeah, true.

673
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:19,120
So I mean, if it's made up of different elements, you wouldn't be expecting to boil that out

674
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,120
of it.

675
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,120
No, exactly.

676
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,120
That's the weird thing.

677
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,400
And like, technically, yeah, it should remove it, but like, we don't know what those chemicals

678
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,400
are.

679
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,240
So how do we actually know what's going to remove it?

680
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,240
Yeah, exactly.

681
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,240
Okay.

682
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,240
I just had to bring up that point.

683
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,200
So yeah, they're watching them play softball as we left off.

684
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,600
They're yelling at them, which is laughing apparently.

685
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,120
And eventually the evens started playing the game, but never got used to catching the ball

686
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,680
before it hit the ground.

687
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,280
Our team also played touch football again.

688
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,120
The evens watched the game intensely and then played it themselves.

689
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,200
But again, like softball, the evens never figured out that they had to catch the ball

690
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,600
before it hit the ground.

691
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,600
They're IQ.

692
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,880
And again, IQ 165.

693
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,240
But nerds don't know play sports.

694
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,800
So yeah, it's true.

695
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,160
A horrible drivers and a horrible athletes.

696
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,640
Although our team members honored the privacy of the evens, our team was allowed to witness

697
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,640
births.

698
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,480
And our team snooped around was able to capture the sexual activity of the evens.

699
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,800
Oh my God.

700
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,120
The males and females had similar sexual organs and performed intercourse.

701
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:21,280
I don't know if they meant like similar sexual organs to us or just they had the same organs

702
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,280
as each other.

703
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,480
That's a that would be a good.

704
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,600
I'm going to repeat that again.

705
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,800
The male and females had similar sexual organs and performed intercourse.

706
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:34,560
You bring up a good point that doesn't differentiate between what you're saying.

707
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,360
OK, the frequency of sexual activity was not recorded as being as often as our society

708
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,360
performed.

709
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,360
It was believed that they performed the act for pleasure and reproduction.

710
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,360
That's the end of that one.

711
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,360
OK, that's kind of confusing.

712
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,720
That's a confusing one.

713
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:56,600
OK, next up, November 17, 2005, our team contained two geologists and they were also cross trained

714
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:57,720
as biologists.

715
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,720
The first thing our geologists did was map the entire planet.

716
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,440
And the first step was to divide the planet in half, thus creating an equator.

717
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,960
And then they established a North hemisphere and South hemisphere with each hemisphere

718
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,960
they equate the creative four quadrants.

719
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,160
Apparently the evens had never done this or thought to map their planet out.

720
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:22,040
So I'm just assuming this or that they never gave these guys a map because they just wanted

721
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,560
to yell at them all the time.

722
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,760
Yeah, OK.

723
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,200
They were volcanic rock formations and part of the extreme south contained a rock desert.

724
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,000
Temperatures at the South Pole were measured at between 90 and 135 degrees Fahrenheit.

725
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,400
Going further north and from the South Pole in quadrant one, the team found extrusive

726
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,400
rocks.

727
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,360
This indicated some volcanic activity in the area and our team found numerous volcanoes

728
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,360
in this.

729
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,640
And again, sorry, I haven't said this, but that temperature that he just said 135 degrees

730
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,080
Fahrenheit is higher than the maximum temperature that is listed earlier, just so that we're

731
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,080
on the same page.

732
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:59,280
The radiation levels were lower in the northern hemisphere than at the equator and the southern

733
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,280
hemisphere.

734
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,240
A North Pole contained cold weather and the team saw the first sign of snow.

735
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,920
Like as the snow littered the landscape around the North Pole and the snow measured about

736
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,720
20 feet at its deepest.

737
00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:12,440
And again, this is a place that never went below 55 degrees Fahrenheit, which is well

738
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,440
above freezing.

739
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:19,360
But the temperature was a constant 33 degrees Fahrenheit, well below the temperature range.

740
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,520
Our team never found the temperature to vary in this region.

741
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,960
The evens could not stand to be in this region for long and they suffered extreme hypothermia.

742
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,520
The team's guide wore a suit similar to a spacesuit with built-in heaters.

743
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,280
Our team found evidence of past earthquakes, fault lines that were found along the northern

744
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,440
tip of the southern hemisphere.

745
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:42,320
Exploitation was observed along the extrusive rocks, which indicated magma flow in the past.

746
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,520
Our team brought back hundreds of samples of serposoil, vegetation, water, and other

747
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,240
items for testing on Earth.

748
00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:51,600
And during our team's exploration, they discovered numerous types of animals.

749
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,840
The strangest was the beast, which looked like a large ox.

750
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,520
The animal was tamed and never seemed to be hostile.

751
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,000
No idea why they call it the beast then.

752
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:06,640
You know, a lot of this is reminding me of cone heads.

753
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,800
Another animal looked like a mountain lion but had long fur around the neck.

754
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,800
So like a lion.

755
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:18,280
This animal was curious but was not considered hostile by the evens.

756
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,080
There's a bit of a break until the next one on November 29th.

757
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,520
I decided to concentrate this release on the team with their selection process communication

758
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,960
problems and the final exchange that they had.

759
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,920
There have been many questions pertaining to these issues.

760
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,120
Background, EB number one provided communication devices that allowed us to contact Serpo.

761
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:41,400
The communication device was onboard the even spacecraft that crashed in July of 1947 near

762
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,400
Corona.

763
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,000
EB-1 showed us the proper use of this communication device prior to his death.

764
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,240
However, the device did not function properly and no contact could be made with Serpo.

765
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:54,560
Just prior to EB number one's death, an American scientist from Los Alamos figured

766
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,200
out the device worked and connected an energy source found in the even craft to the communication

767
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,200
device.

768
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,240
With even ones assistance, the language input, several signals were sent during the summer

769
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:08,800
of 1952 and in fall of 1952 we received several signals on the device.

770
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,240
EB-1 translated the messages and provided us with the information.

771
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:13,800
EB-1 sent six messages.

772
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,240
The first message was just letting his planet know he was alive and the second message explained

773
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:22,640
the crash and the death of his crew, which they probably didn't find out to be ordinary.

774
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,600
Third message asked for a rescue craft.

775
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,560
Fourth message suggested a formal meeting with Earth's leaders.

776
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,680
Fifth message is this in the exchange program.

777
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,480
Sixth message provided a landing coordinate for any future rescue or visitation mission

778
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,520
to Earth and the incoming message gave a time and date and confirmed a landing location.

779
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,400
However, once the message was translated by EB-1, it was determined the date was over

780
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,720
ten years away, fearing that EB-1 who was sick at this point did not translate the message

781
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:49,200
correctly or scientists began to translate the message and based on the even language

782
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,240
that was taught to us by EB-1.

783
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:57,200
But they only knew basic things like what the plant is called and what the aircraft is

784
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,200
called.

785
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,800
Not like sentence structure.

786
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:06,800
And apparently he spoke English too but not really and they could only get 50% yeah.

787
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,400
The even sent a message indicating that they would return to Earth on a particular number

788
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,920
date and location that we chose.

789
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,600
The date was April 24th 1964 and the location was in southern sector of White Sands missile

790
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,720
range New Mexico.

791
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:19,520
Our team planned for two locations.

792
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,800
One cover location at Holloman Air Force Base near Alamo Gordo, New Mexico and the other

793
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,840
which would be the actual landing location was west of Holloman near the southern entrance

794
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,480
of White Sands Army post.

795
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,840
The first even craft entered our atmosphere during the afternoon of April 24th 1964 and

796
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,640
the even craft landed at the wrong location near Socorro, New Mexico.

797
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,040
You're such a man trying.

798
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,400
Our team was in place at White Sands and we were able to communicate a message to the

799
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,000
even craft that they landed at the wrong place.

800
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,880
Even the second even craft picked up the message and landed at the correct location.

801
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:57,240
At the meeting the even craft landed exactly at the location we sent.

802
00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:00,760
There were 16 US senior government officials on the ground.

803
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,000
Some were political and some were senior officials including military officers.

804
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,200
The evens exited their craft and walked under a pre-located canopy.

805
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,600
The evens gave gifts of their technology and the even had a crude translator device.

806
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,360
It eared to be some sort of microphone with a readout screen.

807
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,760
The senior US officials was given one of the devices and the even kept the other one.

808
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,960
The officials spoke into the device and the screen showed a printout form of the voice

809
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,720
message both in even and in English.

810
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:30,960
It was crude and hard to understand everything that was said and the exact transcript of the

811
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,640
meeting won't be discussed at this time.

812
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,160
The evens decided to make the exchange but not until the following year.

813
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,600
July 1965 was set and the location decided upon was Nevada test site.

814
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,360
Planners did not wish to keep this same location for fear of something might leak.

815
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,040
And they had trouble finding it.

816
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,040
Like they finally found it.

817
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,040
Why would you change?

818
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,960
The team members were kept at Fort Leavenworth until May 1964 and they were translated to

819
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,960
Camp Perry.

820
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,360
The team was isolated for six months going over the same training they received.

821
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,440
Fine tuning their skills and learning some newer skills.

822
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,720
This gave the team an opportunity to better understand the even language.

823
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:06,640
Although most of the team members had difficulty learning the language and the two linguists

824
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,880
on the team were able to hone their language skills, which is in contradiction of what

825
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,280
they just said earlier.

826
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,280
In April of 1965 the team was transported to Fort Leavenworth in confined until July

827
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,000
of 1965 and they then were transported to Nevada.

828
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,800
During the exchange only a selected few officials were present.

829
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,840
Other than that the preparation crew of the exchange team, the even craft landed and our

830
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,840
team was placed on board.

831
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,600
Note, one item that was misstated by million earlier emails was the amount of equipment

832
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,760
that was taken to Planet Cerpo by our team.

833
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:38,200
The correct amount loaded to the even spacecraft was 90,500 pounds of equipment.

834
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,680
You know what that's probably enough.

835
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,960
We've been going on a while so let's kind of hear it.

836
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:48,280
With that amount of stuff that they're bringing, didn't they say when they went there originally

837
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,880
there wasn't any...

838
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,600
Our source that they could use?

839
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,680
No, when they were flying the aircraft originally on their nine months there wasn't any...

840
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,040
Like what did they say?

841
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,440
Oh god, I have to go real far back.

842
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,720
They said there wasn't any technology on it so that they would stay comfortable.

843
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:08,440
Oh yeah, I think I know you're talking about the weightlessness.

844
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,440
There was no weightlessness.

845
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:10,440
Yes, yes.

846
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,400
So when they're bringing that much on board...

847
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,480
It has real weight, yes.

848
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,880
Like a lot of it, okay.

849
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,320
Yeah, actually that's probably why it went faster on the way back to less 90,000 pounds.

850
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,160
Oh no, they brought stuff back though.

851
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,260
Probably 90,000 pounds.

852
00:40:24,260 --> 00:40:26,360
They would have to fill it up the same, right?

853
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,400
Maybe that's why it took them such short amount of time to get back.

854
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,000
But yeah, it continues on this way.

855
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,760
For the most part the ones I skipped don't give you an overview.

856
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,640
It goes into more specific details of things that happened.

857
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,600
Like they talk about the team more, they talk about the training regimen, they talk about

858
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,840
more specific things that happened on Serpo.

859
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,200
This gives you a gist of the original story.

860
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,360
And I don't know if you noticed this Chelsea but there seem to be a few things that just

861
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,560
don't add up well.

862
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:54,080
And the hilarious thing that the truthful Richard Doty is included in this episode, I

863
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,120
kind of forgot that it's a Richard Doty heavy little arc we're going through right now

864
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,120
on this show.

865
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,120
You know what?

866
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,880
It's always good for us to be talking about Richard Doty.

867
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:09,320
I had no idea that he had anything was even mentioned in Serpo.

868
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:10,320
Yeah.

869
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,680
Which is, if he even comes up as them saying like Richard Doty's the best, I'm like red

870
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,840
flake, this is Richard Doty.

871
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,840
Yeah.

872
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,080
It makes sense for it to be Richard Doty this.

873
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,680
Oh yeah, for sure.

874
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,480
And it's so inconsistent.

875
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,520
They list the light years away and then in the actual like data that they give it's a

876
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,360
different amount of light years.

877
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,360
It seems a switch from somebody just conveying information about the team to it being somebody

878
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,680
who's a member of the team who's talking to us.

879
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,840
The voice, the point of view changes.

880
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,840
Yeah.

881
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,840
Like constantly.

882
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,840
That's hilarious.

883
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,800
And I mean that's what you get when you're using disposable email accounts so you can't

884
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,080
look back on what you've already said.

885
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,080
Yeah.

886
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,080
They don't add up and then some of the things are just weird details to include like, oh

887
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,600
it was a mountain lion but had a furrier neck.

888
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,600
Like a lion.

889
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:05,040
And the evens poop looks like cats.

890
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,720
And then they can't understand the language at all except they studied it like really

891
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:10,720
hard and actually fully understood it.

892
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:11,720
Yeah.

893
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:15,840
And they have an IQ of 165 on average but they can't understand anything.

894
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,280
And they constantly crash their plane.

895
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:25,040
I love the story of Serpo but when you hear it told anywhere else that's not journey to

896
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,840
the fringe or someone that's going to pick it apart.

897
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,000
It sounds like a cohesive story.

898
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,320
So I love to hear it because you're hearing of an alien planet.

899
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,040
It's such like an extravagant story to listen to.

900
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,200
But yeah, there's holes all over the place.

901
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,280
As soon as he said Richard Dodie I was like, oh man.

902
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:47,000
I think this is where we end this first episode is just going over the original release.

903
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,960
From here we're going to look at what has happened since January of 2006 when these

904
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,280
stopped coming out and we're going to see what happens to those involved.

905
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:01,400
Who gets involved and what most people say about this entire story at this time now.

906
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,400
I'm excited.

907
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,400
So this is where we cut it off.

908
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,400
That's a great episode.

909
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,400
Yeah.

910
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,600
And it's going to be a lot of fun to see where this goes.

911
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,360
I have been Taylor here with Chelsea.

912
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,680
We are Journey to the Fringe.

913
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,840
Thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week.

914
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,840
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00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,640
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