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You got an opener?

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Well, I have an opener, but this is for our midweek pickup.

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I know, yes.

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OK, I'm sticking with my new format.

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So we have your choice for the feel good midweek pickup.

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We have feel good stories, which include UFOs,

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because they make us feel good.

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We have feel bad, now with even more bad news.

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And the bad news is now outweighing the good news stories.

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And we have uncertain feelings.

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Science is gone.

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You said for our feel good midweek,

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I'm actually going to go with neutral.

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Feel neutral.

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OK, let's feel neutral.

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Feeling neutral today.

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I need to read that in a different category, because it's not.

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Because it was not neutral.

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It was not neutral.

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OK, let's go with this one.

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This one is from crunch.com.

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And it is titled, cultured meat firm,

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resurrects woolly mammoth in lab grown meatball.

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May have heard this floating around the internet recently.

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And it does go along with a little bit ago now.

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We covered a woolly mammoth, so I thought it would be nice to do,

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because we're feeling neutral.

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Truth, as the saying goes, is often stranger than fiction.

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The very notion of resurrecting the long extinct woolly mammoth

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was the stuff of fantasy not that long ago.

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The scientists are already working on ways

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to achieve something close to that,

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using DNA from soft tissue and frozen mammoth remains,

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and meshing it with that of modern day elephant.

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A modern day elephant, if you're using proper English,

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as most articles do.

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But while such de-extinction projects

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may or may not ultimately succeed,

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one company is already laying claim

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to having produced the first meat product made from mammoth DNA.

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Vow, an Australian cultivated food company

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that creates meat in a laboratory setting from animal cells,

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says that it has used advanced molecular engineering

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to resurrect the woolly mammoth in meatball form,

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by combining original mammoth DNA with fragments

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of African elephants DNA.

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Sturbin. Yeah. Yeah, very.

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James Ryle, Vow's chief science officer,

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said that the company first identified the mammoth bioglobin,

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a protein that is key to giving meat its color and taste,

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and then use publicly available data

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to identify the DNA sequence in mammoths.

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It filled in any gaps in the DNA sequence

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of this mammoth's myoglobin gene

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by using the genome of the African elephant,

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the mammoth's closest living relative.

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Ryle said in a video announcing the mammoth meatball,

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we inserted the mammoth myoglobin gene into our cells

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using a very low current and high voltage charge.

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And we continued to grow and multiply these cells

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just as would occur in a mammoth thousands of years ago.

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And the amazing thing about this

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is not a single animal needed to die

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to produce the mammoth meatball.

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Well, all of the mammoths had to die.

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It's true. Because it pushed us to do this.

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It's true.

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There's little question that cultivated meat is coming.

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Evidence by the countless companies raising vast swaths

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of venture capital funding to produce meat and fish

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in a lab from animal cells,

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as well as the fact that companies are now starting

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to receive the blessings of regulators,

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such as the US Food and Drug Administration,

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while pork sausages and seafood make sense.

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Insofar as they are food that people are familiar with,

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Vow, which closed of 49.2 million round of funding

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just a few months ago is clearly upping the ante

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with its foray into the world of extinct animals.

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It goes on, I think this gives you the feel good sense.

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The ill-neutral.

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Yeah, to feel the neutral sense to get through your week.

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I was feeling optimistic with the feel good.

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You're right. This is neutral, actually.

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I am at least happy that we kind of just

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skipped the step of creating the woolly mammoth

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so that we could eat the woolly mammoth.

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Because again, if you haven't listened to it in a while,

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go listen to our de-extinction episode.

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It turns out really one of the main reasons

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we want to bring a woolly mammoth back

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is because historically we have always wanted

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to eat woolly mammoth.

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And it wasn't this that we talked about

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in the woolly mammoth episode.

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But we did talk about wanting to eat them,

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which is odd because there's so many different animals

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you probably could have done this with that are extinct.

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Oh, and probably more delicious too.

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But we really want to know what the woolly mammoth tastes like.

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But elephants are everywhere.

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And you don't see people clamoring to try elephant.

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Now, technically, yeah, they're an endangered species

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and not as prominent as they once were

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and also very hard to farm.

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But it's weird the obsession with eating woolly mammoth,

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that there is historical record of how much we obsessed

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about eating woolly mammoth, which is super weird.

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But not elephants.

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I wonder how good this product would do

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if you actually went to the store and saw woolly mammoth meat.

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Or if it would change your wantingness to try woolly mammoth

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meat when they're like they bridge the gap with elephant.

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I mean, woolly mammoth and...

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Can you imagine like going into a steakhouse

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and asking for like woolly mammoth balls

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and like, sorry, oh, we got the elephant.

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You're like, no, no, not interested at all.

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That's crossing the line.

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That's the same restaurant that only has Pepsi as well.

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Why are people even there then?

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Yeah, Pepsi and elephants.

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We're coming into a strange place in science, I feel like.

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We really are.

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And I'm actually worried we are going to jump past

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de-extincting the woolly mammoth

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because we can get its meat this way.

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That's the only reason we would want to bring it back anyway

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is to see how it tastes.

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Yeah.

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There's so many questions I have.

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First one is the people testing this, eating this.

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Are they like, that's exactly what I thought

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a woolly mammoth would taste like?

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I'm actually kind of upset they didn't put anything in there

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about it because they've made it.

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They didn't describe the food at all.

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I don't think so because I stopped early,

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but I don't think.

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Let me quick search taste.

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No, we already read that part, both the proteins.

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It is believed that nobody has actually tasted one

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of the mammoth balls.

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Wait, what?

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This isn't the first time scientists

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have created edibles from extinct animals.

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Oh, we've spoke wrong.

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I spoke wrong.

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Back in 2018, a VC-backed silicone valley startup called Geltr

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made gummies using protein of a mastodon,

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another distant relative of elephants.

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However, in the latest instance, it's

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believed that nobody has actually tasted one

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of the mammoth meatballs.

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OK, we should have just continued reading.

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Why?

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Because it says it suggested that it's probably just not

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safe to try the meatballs just now, even if regularly

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it's permitted.

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Because we haven't seen this protein for thousands of years.

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I guess I wasn't done reading the article, guys.

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Wolvetang says we don't know who he is

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because I skipped to some part.

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I'm not even sure where we are in the article.

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But it's important.

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So we have no idea how our immune system would

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react when we eat it.

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But if we did it again, we would certainly

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do it in a way that would make it more palatable

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to regulatory bodies.

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Mammoth Meatball is set to be officially unveiled at Nemo

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Science Museum in the Netherlands today.

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Not like today, today.

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This was March 28, 2023.

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So recent enough, that's the actual end of the article.

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Yeah, I am actually really looking forward

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to our year-end update because I'm really

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hoping somebody tries to eat this by that point.

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Maybe we are ready for a protein that's

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been extinct for a long time.

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We're also really pushing the lab-made meats

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in recent history, I guess, which I also

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find special.

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Actually, Chelsea, you're vegetarian, or at least

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pescatarian.

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Would you consider lab-grown meat part of your diet?

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If it was out there, would you think that vegetarians

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could eat it?

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It's a really interesting moral debate, I think.

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I don't see anything wrong with vegetarians or vegan

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eating it because it's not coming from an animal.

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It has no sentience.

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I feel like I wouldn't want to eat it, though,

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because I personally don't like the texture of meat.

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I haven't eaten meat in so long.

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I don't like that texture.

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So it wouldn't be something I'd be like, man,

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I could really go for a steak now that I can eat steak,

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and it doesn't come from an animal that has feelings.

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OK.

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It's just my thought on it.

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OK.

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Yeah.

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I think that's it for our little flow for the week.

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Well, I am very curious about this in AI just

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seem to be going so fast right now that I'm curious to see

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just how they develop.

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But with that, let's get into the rest of the week,

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and we'll see you all on Friday.

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Bye.