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I think I found a good story. Chelsea, you've heard of Bohemian Grove before, right?

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Yes.

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The secretive elite location, Alex Jones gets a lot of his street cred from sneaking in there with a camera,

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and it's where, you know, satanic rituals are supposed to happen.

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Bohemian Grove is a real place. It is a real rich people club.

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I found this article. It's On the Guardian, written by Michael Sinato, and it was published on June 18th, 2023.

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It appears Bohemian Grove might be in a little bit of hot water,

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because workers are suing the secretive elite club Bohemian Grove for wage theft.

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Oh my God.

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Workers at Bohemian Grove, one of the most elite and secretive clubs in the U.S.,

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have filed a lawsuit alleging numerous unfair labor practices, including 16-hour workdays with outbreaks

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and a failure to pay overtime and minimum wage to the workers.

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Bohemian Grove, which attracts some of the most powerful people to a mysterious gathering in the woods,

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north of San Francisco, has long been the subject of fascination and conspiracy theories.

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The lawsuit was brought by former valets who worked for several years at the club's Montabrio

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summer camp in Sonoma County. The secretive 2700-acre camp near the Russian river has operated

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every summer for 150 years and is rumored to end in a ritual involving a human effigy and burning

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of a giant sacrificial owl. The club was reportedly visited by the Supreme Court Justice Clarence

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Thomas and billionaire donors such as Harlan Crowe. It has been rumored over the years to be the site

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where Richard Nixon's successful 1968 presidential election campaign was launched and where J. Robert

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Oppenheimer first discussed the Manhattan Project. The club currently has a list of

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2600 active members and a sizable waitlist. Members have included individuals such as Henry

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Kissinger, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Charles Schwab, and several other powerful political

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and economic leaders around the world. The lawsuit alleges about 100 separate camps that comprise

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the club each have one or more captains who violate numerous labor laws every summer. The

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complaint includes an allegation that Bohemian Grove Treasurer Bill Dawson has personally

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directed valets to falsify payroll records and to work off the clock. The lawsuit alleges valets

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were paid only eight hours despite working 16 plus hours a day without a break for the duration of

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a 14-day summer camp. Another allegation in the lawsuit claims the worker was directed to hide

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from a payroll employee when they made a surprise visit to the camp as they were being paid under

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the table. We just want this to stop, said former valet at the camp who requested to remain anonymous

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for fear of retaliation from the club or members. The worker described members as seemingly wealthy

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with private jets, million dollar cars, $200,000 watches, and homes on Billionaires Beach in Malibu.

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They said that they would have to perform tasks beyond their job duties for some members, such

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as one instance where a billionaire member forgot to bring underwear to the camp and the

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valets were asked to hand wash it. They explained over the years the conditions

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overworking and lack of paid overtime, lack of breaks would worsen despite promises to workers

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to do otherwise. These promises, kind words from some of the very wealthy members friendships with

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co-workers kept them coming back year after year to the job the worker added. It's still going on,

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the payroll stuff, the unpaid overtime, the rates if the day is set, but even if you work 23.5 hours

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a day, your daily rate is your daily rate. This was all kind of conceived to save money, which is

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kind of comical, the worker said referring to the immense wealth of the members. They added,

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quote, the club really struggled hiring staffed last few years because they're just not getting

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with the program of modern food service labor where you have to pay a better wage. They argued,

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isolation of the camp and demanding environment amplified some of the typical poor working

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conditions in the restaurant and hospitality industry because there's no internet, no cell

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service and pressure from the club to meet the demands of members and keep enticing new very

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wealthy members into the club. Quote, all of these kind words and supposed good gestures only were

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only available to me if I kept my mouth shut and if I were worked around the clock and didn't

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complain so I feel used to the worker added, I gave them a lot of good years. The lawsuit is

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seeking class action status affecting 300 employees who worked outside the camp that used staffing

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firm for hiring and they are seeking up to $1.5 million in damages from the all-male club and

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booking labor. I think that's far enough there. Chelsea, what are your thoughts? It's interesting,

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I mean they probably don't want this guy doing this. And I think at the end of the day, if you're

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going to be in charge of a super secretive club that has weird conspiracies about it, just pay

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your damn workers, pay them at least a bit of a wage. Yeah, that's weird and he's not working

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23.5 hour days, is he? He might have. I think what they meant there is no matter how many

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hours you work, you just get paid the day rate. It's a legacy about that. Yeah, and if any of you

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are involved with a super secret club, just talk to your payroll people or your management to make

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sure that your employees are being paid properly. You probably just want to pay them a decent wage,

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especially if you're making lots of money in memberships that kind of clientele. Yeah, but

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hey, nobody wants to work anymore. With that, let's get into this episode. Okay.

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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe.

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Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe. Don't mind that snakey smell, it's just sometimes what

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the fringe smells like. It might have something to do with that ancient room filled with snakes,

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but let's not worry too much about that. We are your clean and aroma free podcast host,

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Taylor and Chelsea. And today, speaking of aromas, we are talking about those things that you might

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smell on your walks down to the beach, on the hikes, through the trees. And of course, we're

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talking about plants. Chelsea, I believe, is going to be telling us about those cryptid of our planty

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friends who remain elusive and hard to see. Yeah, very fringy indeed. And I'm sure that you're

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thinking how fringy can plants be. Well, I'm going to, we're proving you wrong today, because we're

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delving into the fringy and mundane subject that we are here at Journey to the Fringe. We only have

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a recently thought this was possible as a topic, which is Cryptobotany. You have just recently

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come into some information, new fringiness. If Cryptobotany sounds familiar to you, but you

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just can't put your finger on it, well, that is because it sounds like Cryptozoology, aka cryptid.

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We shorten it down for you because Cryptozoology is a mouthful. And we've covered that time and time

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again on this podcast, and we love them ever so dearly. However, instead of ending in Zoology,

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it ends in botany, which is plants, study of plants to be specific. All in all, it's the study of

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plants whose existence has not been confirmed and is the search for formally undescribed plants.

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There are so many ways we could go with this, but today I'm doing man-eating variety. I guess

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this one kind of comes back to the Venus flytrap. I've had one. I do eat things that are not water.

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What do plants eat? Sun rays. Venus flytrap eats more than just the sun.

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And then they eat CO2 and fardot oxygen for us. Plants are amazing. The Venus flytrap,

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of course, which probably doesn't eat humans. I've never seen it eat a human, just a fly.

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They don't get that pig. Yeah. Insects that we know of, and that's probably proven they don't

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eat humans. Venus flytrap. I don't know if you could prove they don't eat humans,

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but I think it's just an agreed upon fact. I mean, I guess you could never really rule it out for

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sure because there's always a one off, right? I do have an interesting fact about the Venus flytrap.

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I would like to share at this point. Chelsea, where do you think the Venus flytrap is located?

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Like its natural habitat. Amaz- Australia. Yeah. You think it would be exotic? Yeah.

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Killer plants. It makes sense in Australia. Amazon makes sense. Rainforest. It's from the Carolinas.

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What? Really? Yep. I, that doesn't even make sense. Maybe it does. Maybe it does eat humans.

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And the universe was trying to produce some sort of plant that would eliminate Carolinas.

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And that's its only native area is north and south Carolina. That is so weird. Okay. So the Venus

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flytrap apparently discovered in the Carolinas in the 1760s. So you're probably thinking like,

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of course, the Venus flytrap exists. Let me just get through what I wrote here because I don't know

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where this is going up until this point. No one would have believed that it could actually catch

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and consume insects. But of course that is its career path. It just eats insects as well as the

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sun. I don't know. I didn't do that much research. Well, it's green. I assume it does some photosynthesis.

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It's just not a lot. Not a lot. Not a lot. I mean, have you ever seen it close around a fly? It is

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really slow. It doesn't just like eat it. So being that the species of plant does in fact exist,

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reports have also emerged from several reported remote regions of the world concerning canibirous

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plants that can ensnare and devour creatures as large as birds, dogs and monkeys and sometimes

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even humans. That's got to get their protein. Some of them, I guess. I don't know that the sun

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gives you that much protein. So first up is the Madagascar tree. This tree is in fact the earliest

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well-known tale of a man-eating tree. So does that make it still not very well known because

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we've never heard of this before? I mean, as well known as you're going to get for the man-eating

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tree variety, cryptid tree, adobot tree. I think it's been like a cartoon trope that there's man

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eating plants. But outside of that, like I honestly didn't know stories of man eating plants. This is

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brand new news to us. So we first hear of this in an article for New York World by Edmund Spencer

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on April 26, 1874, in which in the daily edition, then two days later in the weekly edition,

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in the article, a letter was published by a purported German explorer named Carl Leaché

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Leesh, depending on where he's from, who provided a report of encountering a sacrifice performed

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by the Mikoto tribe of Madagascar. And sorry, what year was this? This is 191874. Okay. So

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fucking long time ago. Spiritualism is still at its height. No, it's coming to a close. Okay,

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so it's performed by a tribe in Madagascar. The paper claimed to have received its information

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about the tree from, quote, the last number of Gray Fae and Walters magazine published at

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Earl's Rue, in quote, in which there was a letter from the discovered Carl, who I just mentioned,

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who was an eminent botanist. And he wrote the letter to a colleague, Dr. Omelius.

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Omelius, there's a name you don't hear fried, lousy, which the article was mostly made up of a

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letter written. This story was picked up by many other newspapers of the day, including the South

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Australian Register on October 27, 1874, where it gained even greater popularity, describing the

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tree, the letter related, slender, delicate, palpy, with the fury of starved serpents, quivered a

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moment over her head, then as if instinct with demonic intelligence fastened upon her in sudden

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coils, round and round her neck and arms. Then while her awful scream and yet more awful laughter

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rose wildly to be instantly strangled down again into a gurgling moan, tendrils one after another,

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like great green serpents, with brutal energy and infernal rapidly rose retracted themselves,

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wrapped her about in fold after fold, ever tightening with cruel swiftness and savage tenacity

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of anacondas fastening upon their prey, end quote. So this plant is moving as a snake around this

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woman strangling her. Yes, and she seems to be having a mental breakdown. Yeah, screaming and laughing.

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I mean, I don't know how else to react by being eaten like that by a plant. So

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in the letter, Leshae describes traveling through Madagascar into the region occupied by the

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Makodos, a tribe of inhospitable savages of whom little was known. As Lyshe and his party walked

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along, they noticed that members of the Makodos tribe were silently emerging from the jungle and

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following behind them. They came to a spot where a stream wound through the forest and here they

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encountered the most singular of trees. Lyshe provided a detailed description of the tree.

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If you can imagine a pineapple eight feet high in thick in proportion resting upon its base and

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denuded of leaves, we'll have a good idea of the trunk of the tree, which, however, was not the

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color of a banana, but a dark, dingy brown and apparently hard as iron. In the apex of its truncated

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cone, at least two feet in diameter, eight leaves hung sheer to the ground, like Doris swung back

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on their hinges. These leaves, which were joined to the top of the tree at regular intervals, were

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about 11 or 12 feet long and shaped very much alike the leaves of the American Ahave, or Sentry

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plant. They were two feet through in their thickest part and three feet wide, leaping to a sharp

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point that looked like a cow's horn, very convex on the outer, but now under surface and on the

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inner, now upper surface, slightly concave. This concave face was thickly set with very strong

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thorny hooks, like those upon the head of a drizzle. These leaves hanging thus limp and lifeless,

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dead greening color had an appearance, the massive strength of oak fiber. Oh, it goes on and on and

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on. The apex of the cone was a round white concave figure, like a smaller plate set within a larger

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one. This was not a flower, but a receptacle, and there exuded in a clear, trickly liquid,

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honey sweet, and possessed a violent intoxicating and so horrific properties from underneath the rim,

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so to speak. The undermost plate, a series of long, hairy, green tendrils stretched out in

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every direction towards the horizon. These were seven or eight feet long each and tapered from

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four inches to half an inch in diameter, yet they stretched out stiffly as iron rods. Above these,

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from between the upper and undercut, six white, almost transparent palpite reared themselves

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towards the sky, whirling and twisting with a marvelous, incessant motion, yet constantly

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reaching upwards. Thin as reeds and frail as quills, apparently, they were yet five or six feet tall

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and were so constantly invigorously in motion, with such a subtle, sinuous, silent throbbing

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against the air that they made me shudder in spite of myself, with their suggestion of serpent-flayed,

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yet dancing on their tails. The Makodos, when they saw the tree, began shouting,

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Tepe, Tepe! And they surrounded one of their women and forced her, at javelin point, to climb the

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tree until she reached the apex of the cone that contained the trickly fluid. Tisk, tisk, the Makodos

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men cried, which meant, drink, drink! Obediently, she drank, and then almost instantly, the slender

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palpite of the tree came alive, withered and seized her around the neck and arms. She screamed,

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but the tendrils gripped her tighter, strangling her until her cries became a gurgled moan.

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The contraction of the tendrils caused the fluid of the tree to stream down its trunk,

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mingling with blood and oozing viscera of the victim. Makodos rushed towards to drink this

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mixture of blood and tree fluids. I can't believe I just said that. Then ensued, a grotesque and

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indescribably hideous orgy, Lachey concluded his letter by explaining that he studied the

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coniferous tree for three more weeks, during which he found several other smaller specimens in the

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forest. He saw one of the trees eat a lemur. He named the species Crenoidida d'Ageana, because

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when its leaves are in action, it bears a striking resemblance to the well-known fossil of the Crenoid

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Lilystone. So there's that. That is a lot of fine detail. That is. I have so many questions. The

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first one I really want to know is, so this is just like a stationary plant, right? It doesn't move?

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It doesn't seem to move. I particularly like the detail that it wasn't yellow like a banana,

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but no, it seems to have tentacles. So to say. Yeah, that are just like flailing around in the air.

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Yeah, but also pointing to the sky like iron. Yeah, so these don't move around, but the tribe

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was surprised to see it? Like, would they not know where it was? I would really want to like

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mark on a map. No, where these man-eating trees are. Just avoid this area. Seems as if they are

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consistently sacrificing people to it. It kind of seems like they came across this in that story

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by surprise, and they're like, oh, let's sacrifice this woman because we found it. No, I think the

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the right or were they going there to sacrifice? Yeah, I think the writer of it came upon it by

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surprise and witnessed this all just by a stroke of luck. Okay. This was going on at the very moment.

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But at the same time, he's like not that taken aback because he's making very, very detailed

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observations about this tree. Not the orgy. He just said it. Well, a little bit of the orgy because

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definitely not as detailed as the tree itself. That is not yellow like a banana.

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Nor was the orgy. Well, the orgy might have been. We don't know for sure.

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So then a book is written about the Madagascan man-eater plant written by Chase Osborne,

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who was oddly a governor of Michigan. I could not find any evidence that he had actually been to

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Madagascar. I believe he wrote it based on this story. Yeah, story, stating article. So any

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how yeah, like if you know about a man eating tree, I don't know why you'd want to go to Madagascar.

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That's true. You might just, you know, happen upon another one of these and

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Layling about it. I would want I don't know that I would seek that. Some people would. He writes

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this book entitled Madagascar land of the man eating tree. So he claims that both the tribes

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and missionaries in Madagascar knew about the tree, provided the same account that I just gave you,

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and also adds that I do not know whether this steegish tree really exists or whether the blood

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curdling stories about it are pure myth. It is enough for my purpose. If its story focuses on

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your interest upon one of the least known spots in the world. So he can say that based on never

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being to Madagascar that it may or may not exist. Yeah, any idea when he wrote that story? No,

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that seems like an important thing that I left out. And then turns out really lay a science

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author looked into this and it was completely made up. What? But it sounds so believable. I know,

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right? I know. It was that banana detail that really got me. You would have never thought.

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Usually when there's so much detail like this is completely made up. I know you guys were all

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banking on it being true, but here we are. Sorry to disappoint. Next up, Yate Veo, which is native

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to South America and Central America and is a close relative to the Madagascar tree. So somebody

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probably would have taken somehow the seeds of the Madagascar tree to South America. It doesn't exist.

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Yes. Got the Yate Veo. This is named after the Spanish phrase I see you already,

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named as such because of the hissing sound it makes, which sounds similar to the phrase.

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And so the hissing sound sounds like it's saying Yate Veo. This plant is said to catch and consume

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large insects, but will also settle for and attempt to consume humans. Seems like a big stretch to go

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from, I mean, how large is a large insect? Maybe the size of my hand? They can get pretty big. I

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think they can get bigger than that. What? Oh yeah, the centipedes in the rainforest are huge.

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Oh shit. Okay. Let's not talk about it that much because that is more terrifying than a man-eating

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plant because I feel like you could easily get away from a man-eating plant. Yeah. It inhabits the

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secluded and rarely visited tepui, a high and misty mesa in the Guyana highlands of South America.

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Descriptions of the plant describe it as having a short, thick trunk and long tendril-like appendages

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which are used to catch prey. It has poisonous spines that resemble many huge serpents in an

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angry discussion, occasionally dirty from side to side, as if striking at an imaginary foe,

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and the foe being any creature that dares come with them reach. I mean, how dare it?

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Some accounts include an eye which is super creepy. So I can't picture how this looks. The thorns

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look like snakes that are fighting? Yeah. Okay. Can't picture that. No. It's its tendrils,

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so it would also have tentacles. Okay. Okay. Yeah. It's a fairly good theme of man-eating plants.

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They have tentacles. Natives of whichever country you choose to think this is in.

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Is it Guyana? It's somewhere in there. In the Guyana area? Yeah. I thought it to be a work of

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an evil witch doctor. This man-eater makes its appearance in James W. Bewell's Sea and Land,

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1889, where he describes the plant. I love the things that come out of the 1800s. They're just

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so whimsical. J. W. Bewell gives us this description of this abomination in his seminal work, Sea and

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Land, 1887. Quote, Travelers have told us of a plant which they assert grows in Central Africa

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and also in South America. It is not contented with myriad of larger insects which it catches

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and consumes, but its veracity extends to making even humans its prey. This marvelous,

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wait for it, this marvelous vegetable minotaur is represented of having a story that I can't

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believe I just said that. This episode has some very unique phrases that I never thought were

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things that have been said. I never thought I would say this ever. Yeah, this is in print.

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So let me start again because we need to hear it again. This marvelous vegetable minotaur is

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represented as having a short thick trunk from the top of which radiate giant spines, narrow and

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flexible, but of extraordinary tenaciousness, edges of which are armed with barbs or dagger-like

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teeth. Instead of growing upright, or at an inclined angle from the trunk, these spines

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lay their outer ends upon the ground. And so gracefully are they distributed that the trunk

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resembles an easy couch with green drapery around it. The unfortunate traveler, ignorant of the

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monstrous creation which lies in his way and curious to examine the strange plant or to rest

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himself upon it, inviting stock approaches without a suspicion of his certain doom. The moment his

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feet are set within the circle of the horrid spines, they rise up like giant serpents and

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entwine themselves about him until he is drawn upon the stump. And they speedily drive their

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daggers into his body and thus complete the massacre. The body is crushed until every drop of blood

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is squeezed out of it and becomes absorbed by the gore-loving plant when the dry carcass is thrown

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out in the horrid trap set again. And... Huh, it looks like a couch that you can just take a break

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on while hiking and then... You can easily be fooled by it. Yes, huh. In the tentacles reto from there.

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And then it just like grabs you and stabs you to death. Like every liquid in your body. Yeah,

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I'm not sure how it feeds on you though. And they didn't say anything about the hissing.

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No. You would think you would also hear that upon approaching it when it's...

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It hisses and says, yeah, the couch is hissing, yeah, too, Vio, are you? It's like a good

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thought if any to take a break. I'm surprised this hasn't been made into a motion picture. I mean,

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all they're doing right now is remaking old movies. I see a gold mine. Why don't they use old ideas?

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Yeah, this is a gold mine. And if they take it from this podcast, I would assume they would

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owe us royalties or something. Yeah, well, that's always been our advertising campaign.

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Yeah, exactly. We give the advertising and then they pay us once they feel that it's been paying us.

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We take other people's ideas, save them on this podcast, and then they pay us.

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At some point in the future. We don't do any of the payments beforehand.

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And that's what makes our advertising campaigns unique. Very incredibly unique.

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Next up, the Vampire Vine, aka the Devil's Snare. I'm going to start with the account first of the

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Vampire Vine for this one. A detailed plant that had the capability to drain the blood of any living

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thing which comes within its death dealing touch, which they're all pretty much doing at this point.

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So that's not unique. I'm still not sure like how it's feeding, but they are sucking the fluids dry

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except for that first plant, which just created orgy juice. Yeah. Like it didn't actually say

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it feeds on them. It just kills them and creates orgy juice. Yeah, it's almost as if it hasn't

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properly been thought through almost, but that one is very much a thing. I mean, these could just be

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killing for fun. It's true, which is very concerning in a plant or human. Basically, anyone killing for

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fun is hunter. Back to who is this? Vampire Vine. Mr. Dunstan, a naturalist who had recently

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returned whenever this is taking place. Probably not 2023. I'm guessing it's the 1800s. Recently

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within whenever this event is taking place, returned from Central America. Seems like a weird thing to

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get hung up on on my part, but let me continue. So he's recently returning from Central America,

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again, timeframe established, where he spent nearly two years in the study of the flora and

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the fauna of the country and relates the finding of a singular growth in one of the swamps, which

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surround the great lakes of Nicaragua. He engaged in hunting for botanical and entomological specimens

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and he hears a dog cry out. Oh, he's done. He's done barking. No. As if an agony from a distance.

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I was hoping he would have good timing on that. That would be great. Yeah.

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But no, he knows to fear the vampire vine. He knows when to fuck it up.

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Running to the spot once the animals cries came. I'm glad he went to the dog's rescue.

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Mr. Dunstan found him enveloped in a perfect network of what seemed to be a fine rope like

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tissue of ropes and fibers. The native servants who accompanied Mr. Dunstan manifested the greatest

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horror of the vine, which they called the devil snare and were full of stories of its death

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dealing powers. I do not have those stories. I just have Mr. Dunstan's accounts. He was able to

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discover very little about the nature of the plant owing to the difficulty of handling it,

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or its grasp can only be torn away with the loss of skin and even of flesh. That's the same thing.

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That's the same thing. Yeah. This is very same thing. That's a wordy way to say the same thing

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twice. As near as Mr. Dunstan could ascertain its power of suction, it contained in a number of the

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words in this are incredible. Infinitismo, mouse, or little suckers, which ordinarily closed,

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open for the reception of food. That's actually what it says. Yeah. So it's ropes, appendages,

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are made up of little Venus fly traps then, I guess. Okay. Okay. That's weird. I think. I think

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that's a good way to put it. I think so. This is using a lot of words. If this substance is animal,

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the blood is drawn off and the carcass or refuse then dropped. They just want the blood. And the

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skin. Oh, oh, this was published 1891. So they're all around the same time, which is weird. October

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to be more specific in review of reviews by editor William Thomas Stead. The account review was based

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on a story found in Lucifer Magazine, which would be Mr. Dunstan. So that's the vampire line. And

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most of the accounts you're going to find are short. There's not a whole lot of information on

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them mostly because they're not real things. Well, and I just spoiled the episode. Not really. Most

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of the only the first guys evens like, yeah, I tried to study it and I found another one. It was

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eating a lemur. Yeah. That would be disturbing to everybody else's just have to want. I feel

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like I would need therapy after seeing a plant eat a lemur. But that's being living in an environment

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where plants don't ordinarily eat lemur. I feel like it'd be more concerning seeing a tribe come

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across the plant, have one of their tribe members go up, drink the sap, get strangled to death,

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have their fluids come out and then have orgy incense. Again, that is like quite the

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key remained composed throughout. I mean, we imagine. I mean, the way I read it may not have

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been relaying the proper panic he was feeling. Last but not least, we have the man eating tree

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of Nubia, a coniferous tree reported by one eyewitness who relayed the story in 1881. Yes,

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another novel, this one written by Phil Robinson, it's called under the punka laying the tales of

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his uncle's travels around the world. And one part in particular involved a man eating tree that was

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found in Nubia. Of course, his uncle describes a tree, of course, let me get to where he describes

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it quote, this awful plant that rears its splendid desk shade in the central solitude of a Nubian

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fern forest sickens by its unwholesome humors, all vegetation from its immediate vicinity and feeds

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upon the wild beast that in the terror of the chase or the heat of noon seek the thick shelter of its

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boasts upon the birds that flitting across the open space come within the charm circle of its power

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or innocently refresh themselves from the cups of its great wax and flowers upon even man himself

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when an infrequent prey the savage seeks its asylum in the storm or turns from the harsh foot wounding

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sword grass of the glade to pluck the wondrous fruit that hang plumb down among the wondrous

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foliage and such fruit glorious golden ovals great honey drops swelling by their own weight and pear

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shaped translucencies foliage glistens with a strange dude that all day long drips on the ground below

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nurturing a rank growth of grasses which shoot up in places so high that their spikes of fierce

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blood fed green show far up among the deep tinted foliage of the terrible tree and like a jealous

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bodyguard keep concealed the fearful secret of the charnel house within the draw around the black

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roots of the murderous plant at a scent screen of living green the story of the uncle so-and-so

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continues on describing how the tree captured and ate one of the uncle's guides and so he had to start

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blastings i don't know if they wanted money or they wanted something more sexual but it's a lucky

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thing i had my pieces anyway i started blasting bang wow i don't see so good so i missed when the

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uncle finally ran out of ammunition he pulled out his knife to slit the trees throughout obviously the

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tree fought back with its blood sucking leaves and entangling limbs so that's that he slit the

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trees throughout anyway you guys all think i'm a hero and i'll accept that responsibility all of

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these stories are insane like they're so wordy using all these weird words final thoughts to the

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outside observer it seems as though maddening plants are a hundred percent fabricated but my

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question to you is why would they lie yeah that's crypto botany that's man-eating crypto botany

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and i feel like in the future we will be having other forms of crypto botany that we will cover

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because there's more than just man-eating for other ones and i will leave that for your imagination

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until the episode when we can cover it next well chelsea i thank you for looking into these big

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worded clearly not fabricated stories if you use your biggest words that means it's truthful the

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more wordy would detail i find the more credible your story will be so just remember that for your

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future credible encounters yeah also use specific numbers that aren't even so like eight feet tall

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six and a half feet tall six feet three inches it's more believable for sure yeah never round

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never round about 50 feet tall no no it is 49 and three eighths of an inch skeptics will put

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fucking holes in that if you're rounding up to the nearest hole and with that piece of advice

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i have been taylor here with chelsea we are journey to the fringe thank you all for listening

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