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That sound means we have another Game for a Movie

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podcast. It's episode 24. We have been off for

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a little bit, but mostly because theaters have

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also been off for a little bit. So I've been

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gone since like March. Have I missed anything?

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Yes, you've obviously lived under a rock. Have

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you guys seen this thing called Tiger King? I

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mean, oh my God, just so blown away. That was

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like 20 years ago. I can't wait to talk about

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that for the first time today. Dude, we talked

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about Tiger King two episodes ago. Look, man,

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it's been a long year. That's true. It has been

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a long March. We're still in March, right? Yeah,

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what? I'm so excited to watch 10 of these theaters.

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It's going to be great. Oh, God. went to see

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Doolittle. It was like two weeks ago. It was

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great. God damn it. Yeah, the last movie I saw

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was Cats in theaters, so yeah, it's been real

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great. Mine was Onward, so I think I win. You

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win. Okay. I win. We made a shit go wrong. No,

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Parasite wins. Parasite wins. But I am your host,

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Mike. I am joined by Andre and Jill virtually.

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And I'm joined by Mitchell in person, which kind

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of caught me off guard because I was like, oh,

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Mitchell's here. You know what? I'm just like,

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I haven't seen my boy Mike since Thursday, so

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I may as well roll up and say hi. Hey, I appreciate

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it. I'm glad to have you. We're going to be talking

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about some movies. We're also going to be talking

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about some beers. Mitchell and I are enjoying

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some Black Hog Brewing, the Oktoberfest or Fest

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beer. Very tasty. Andre, what are you drinking

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there? Big cranky, good call. Jill, what are

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you drinking? Is it your tea of the day? It is

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my tea of the day. It is Earl Grey Moonlight

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from Adagio Teas with a little bit of honey into

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it. I love Earl Grey. I love Earl Grey tea. You

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can't go wrong with that. What's the APV on that

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tea? APV? It's kind of low. I think it's like

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a 4. But this would taste really good if infused

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with gin. Ooh, there you go. So Jill's going

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to have the best vocal performance out of anyone

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on this podcast. She's got the tea going. Everyone

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else is putting alcohol in their system. She's

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like, you know what? You know what? I'm just

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going to keep it warm. I'm going to keep it nice

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for my body. And I'm very excited for her review

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in particular. I mean, I can't even say anything.

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I drank a Coca -Cola today. That's basically

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been my day. I've just shot my voice in general.

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It's going to be great. So we are going to take

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it to you guys first, remotely. So you guys have

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been watching something during the pandemic,

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and I just want your opinions on what you have

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seen so far about it. Get excited, everybody

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at home listening. That is a tease. Okay. Keep

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going. Sick. All right. Well, so welcome to the

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fast and furious halfway retrospective, I guess.

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Vroom, vroom. I should know that the reason that

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this retrospective is possible is thanks to our

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good friend Mike for lending us his Blu -ray

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DVD collection. Yes. Yes. We could not be here

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without you. God, I totally forgot I still have

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that. Jesus. We have it now. Well, yeah, yeah,

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yeah. On our TV console right now. I still have

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it digitally. I still have it digitally. Any

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special features. You know what? Just occurred

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to me. All right. Sounds like a date night to

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me. We have watched The Fast and Furious, Too

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Fast, Too Furious, Fast and Furious, Tokyo Drift,

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Fast and Furious, and Fast Five. The most complicated

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naming order ever. Okay, cool. So we have watched

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through Fast Five. You also missed one in there

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that is not an order, but you definitely have

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seen. Oh, yes, we have seen Hobbs and Shaw. Yes.

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But I feel like you need to treat that as a separate

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film because it's so different. We've just met

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Hobbes in Fast and Furious. All of his sweaty

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glory. Wow, I did not realize that Rock, they

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made him very sweaty. We'll get there, we'll

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get there. He's got to be a shiny Rock. Very

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shiny. Yeah, just distractingly shiny. Anyways,

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so yeah, I don't know. This is a franchise about

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cars, driving fast, and I think the first movie

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epitomizes the racing aspect of the series the

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best, I would say. Yes. Donald J. is the most

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grounded. Introduces us to our main characters.

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I live my life a quarter mile at a time. Yeah.

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Family. Corona. That's true. They do drink a

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lot of Corona. It's a ton, man. Yeah. The product

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placement in these movies, it's up there. Yeah.

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It's aggressive. I feel like it's one of those

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movies that just needs product placement, though.

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Yeah. It's not a Michael Bay movie, but it's

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definitely Michael Bay inspired. Yeah. Yeah.

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Sorry, keep going. Oh, no. So, yeah, the first

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movie introduces us to our core characters. We

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meet Paul Walker's Brian, whose name I definitely

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forgot after a period of time. I almost just

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called him Brian Walker. Paul Walker as Brian.

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And we have Vin Diesel as Dom Toretto. And it's

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all about street racing. And they do a pretty

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good job with that. There are... No, they do

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not know how to dress them. Wow, Vin Diesel,

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a better actor. Like, I don't usually hear that.

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I'll say Vin Diesel. You hear this a lot, but

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some people are born to play certain roles, and

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I think Dom is definitely that role for Vin.

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He fits that character like a glove. Well, having

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seen Bloodshot or whatever it is, I don't know

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if I'd necessarily still say that Vin Diesel's

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the better actor. I remember looking this up,

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and correct me if I'm wrong, Vin Diesel's roles

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as a character were Saving Private Ryan, then

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Sorry that I didn't look this up. And I think

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Fast and the Furious is probably his next film

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or the second film after that. The only question

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I have is when did Riddick come into play? Right,

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so I think Riddick was after because I thought

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he didn't do I thought he didn't come back on

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for the sequel because he was doing Riddick.

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So there's actually a few films before Saving

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Private Ryan. He did some smaller things. So

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Saving Private Ryan The Iron Giant, Boiler Room,

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Pitch Black, which is... Pitch Black is Riddick.

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Yeah, the first of them. And then Fast and the

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Furious. So even then, in 2001, when he only

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has a few films under his belt, he's still by

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far the best actor in the film. Yeah. It's a

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fun ride, you know, especially considering it's

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the first and at the time no one expected it

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to become anything. Yeah, we... It's good for

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what it is. We're nine movies deep now. Who knew

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that was going to happen when the film was? It

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all started with them trying to steal DVD players.

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God damn. That was the point? That's the plot.

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They're trying to bust a DVD player stealing

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rig. Okay, friends. We got it now. We're rehashing

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this. We're recreating it. They're stealing Blu

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-ray players now. There it is. It wouldn't even

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be stealing Blu -ray. PS5s? All 40 that were

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created? I am in the market for stealing a PS5.

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Let's do it. You son of a bitch. I'm in. Heist

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movie. Let's go. Shockingly, despite how silly

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what they're doing is trying to steal DVD players,

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the car cinematography is rather cool. I don't

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want to go down because it's not like guns or

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anything like that. There's a good car chase

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right at the end with them. I think it's probably

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my favorite part of that movie. I'm surprised

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how much, like, yes, there's some things that

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definitely don't hold up, but I'm surprised how

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much that movie has held up. Like, you can still

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watch it today and be happy. Yeah, yeah. And,

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like, I like the kind of, the question was not

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the right word, but the cliffhanger, it's a good

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cliffhanger, I guess, you know? Spoilers, I guess,

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for a nearly 20 -year -old movie now at this

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point, but, like, yeah, like, Brian lets Dom

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go, and it's very, it's kind of ambiguous. Like,

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okay, what's going to happen? Is he going to

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get arrested? You know, yeah. And then we follow

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that up with, of course, Too Fast, Too Furious.

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So I have a thing about this one. So when I was

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in my last year living with some roommates I

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had in grad school, we actually watched the first

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two Fast and the Furious films. And we watched

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Too Fast, Too Furious. And at the time, I thought

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that movie was the most hilarious thing ever.

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I really liked the introduction of Tyrese as

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Rome, Roman. Right. Who's Paul Walker's friend.

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I thought it was just, like, this great manic

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energy, and, oh, this movie's so funny. Ha ha

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ha ha ha. Upon rewatch, Tyrese is still hilarious,

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but I think he's the only person who's like,

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I'm just gonna have a fucking good time with

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this. Yeah. The villain is laughable. He's a

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drug kingpin. Oh, God, it's so bad. Yeah, so,

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like... So, yeah, take us through the plot, Andre.

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Well, so, basically, this... So, the biggest

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problem... So... Two Fast and Furious has already

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started behind the eight ball because Vin Diesel

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did not return. So Dom is not in this movie.

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Nowhere to be found. It's mainly... So that just

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means that Paul Walker's Brian gets way more

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screen time. And as we alluded to before, he's

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not the best actor, and he's totally serviceable

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as a main character, but he's not the reason

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I would watch those early films, at least. Yeah,

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okay. That's fair. And Jill's right, so quickly

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Tyrese becomes, it's like a buddy cop movie almost.

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They changed it from a movie about street racing

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to super secret agents that have to street race

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to keep their cover. Undercover cops. Undercover

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cops to street race to keep their cover. And

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it's immediately much more silly but not in a

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fun way. It's just, I don't know. These movies

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kind of ratchet up the ridiculousness and I think

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that... it ends up being, you know, more fun

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in a different way. I would say that that's not

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the case with Too Fast, Too Furious, because

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it's just silly and... I mean, you haven't even

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brought up the rat torture scene, so... Oh, my

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God. Yeah, so the main bad guy is this drug muggle,

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and he... Oh, my God. So, basically, they work

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with the border security to try to get this guy

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arrested, and... His whole intimidation tactic

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is that he has dirty cops working for him, and

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one of them is about to flip. He's like, oh,

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I don't know about this. And, like, they hold

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him down at the bar, and he's like, I have a

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bunch of rats that I don't feed ever, so that

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makes them super desperate. One rat. Oh, yeah,

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sorry. It's a rat. And then we heat up the bucket

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that it's under. Yeah, yeah. Claws way out. Put

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the rat on your belly, and then heat the bucket

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up, and then it's going to scratch its way through

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your insides, and it's like... You can totally

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tell they're trying to go for something that's

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like, whoa, this is super gruesome. This guy's

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fucked up. I fail to see the problem. It's just,

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it's okay. This guy is rad. It's like, wow, neat.

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Like, I don't know. Yeah. I would say, like,

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as an intimidating villain, kind of an eye roll,

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he's too in the scenery. Like, towards the end

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of the film, he's on a yacht waving an AK -47

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around. Yeah. That's true. My kind of dude. Yeah.

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I would say that... the lightning bolt did not

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strike twice here it did not it needed Vin Diesel

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they didn't really with the exception of a few

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passing lines there is no other members of the

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the family that we saw in the first one I do

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appreciate the joke the constant joke to Paul

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Walker's character about like don't sleep with

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the bait yeah that was kind of a nice little

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continuation but yeah I mean like so Tyrese is

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fun in this movie but he's no Vin you know yeah

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I was pleasantly surprised. I was kind of surprised

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how much I enjoyed his return in Fast Five, but...

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We'll get to that after... I will say that of

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the Fast and the Furious films, this is the only

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one whose director was not invited to come back.

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Okay, that's fair. Too Fast, Too Furious, the

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big stinker, but not only is it a very controversial

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take... I'll be honest, I love Too Fast, Too

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Furious, so it is a controversial take to me.

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Because literally, I... I don't know what it

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is about this movie. It's like the perfect nostalgia

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trip for me, I guess. It's one of those I saw

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in theaters, I loved it, and it hasn't gone down

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for me even though I know it's terrible. In theaters,

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this movie would have been fun. Now I wonder,

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do you like Mission Impossible 2? I do not like

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Mission Impossible 2. I would put Too Fast, Too

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Furious and Mission Impossible 2 in similar tiers

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of... I can see what you're saying there, but

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I don't care for Mission Impossible 2. That's

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the one I've gone back to the least, and it's

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just unnecessary, it feels like. I do love the

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John Woo pigeon shot, though, which is used several

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times in Mission Impossible 2. That is definitely

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John Woo, yes. It's John Singleton. Let me correct

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myself right now. Yeah, Mitchell says John Singleton.

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John Singleton, yeah, most famous for Boys in

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the Hood. Boys in the Hood. Yeah, so he's definitely

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one of those groundbreaking black writers and

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directors. I'm that guy. Yes, so I wouldn't say

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that action movies were his forte, and I think

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this was him dipping his toes in it a little.

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But yeah, but everything else, if you look at

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this guy's TV, RIP, by the way. Really good stuff,

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up and down, including television work. He did.

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I'd be shocked if there was a decent amount of

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studio interference on this one, too. Yeah, I

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could see that. You can edit me out saying that

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John Woo did Too Fast, Too Furious. I'll say

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it. Yes, I edited it. Yeah. Yeah. Let's agree

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he did that. Yeah. Three. The most surprising

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dark horse here is the one that has nothing to

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do with the first film. So I was going to this

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movie, and everyone tells me that Tokyo Drift

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is really bad, and I'm like, God, we just finished

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Too Fast, Too Furious, we've got to watch Tokyo

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Drift now? God, man, this is going to suck. That's

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Tokyo Drift. Maybe it was that load of expectations

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that helped a lot, but I had a lot of fun with

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that movie. So I feel like, was Tokyo Drift released,

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like, years after Too Fast, Too Furious? No,

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I don't think it was a lot of time after. Hold

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on, I have the list. I was going to say, I feel

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like it was, like, two years, so it kind of had,

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like, three years difference. But, you know,

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think about, so it might have been released three

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years after, but it probably went into production

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in, like, a year and a half. Because that movie

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has far more CGI, or not CGI, but it has far

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more green screen effects. traveled, I think,

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to Tokyo, so they had to go there. Well, my thing

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was more so, like, you guys are saying that it

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was better than Too Fast, Too Furious. I'm wondering

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if it was released earlier, would it have done

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better? Okay, fair enough. If that had been the

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second one, just jump it to be in an anthology

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series, if you will. Yeah. Or, well, really,

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or just after Too Fast, Too Furious was released.

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You give that three -year gap, everybody forgets

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how bad Too Fast, Too Furious was. And they go

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to Tokyo Drift, and it's like, oh, God, this

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was another bad one. This sucks. Versus, like,

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hey, this was actually better when you just right

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after watched Too Fast, Too Furious. I think

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what worked for me was that it was silly. It

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was very stupid, very silly movie. But not fun.

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Like, I was able to laugh. I feel like I was

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laughing with the movie almost more. Okay. I

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was having a better time at the ridiculousness

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of it. You liked the villain in this one. I did.

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DK is a fun villain to watch. The DK, which stands

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for Drift King, the guy that shows up at the

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parking garage and just drifts his ass all over

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the main character. What's his name? Sean? Who

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even cares? No, it's not John. Generic white

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guy. Sean. Sean. You were close. He looks like

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a high schooler. He looks like he's in his 20s,

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but whatever. I mean, it was probably played

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by an adult. Let's call it what it is. Yeah,

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no, no. We looked up his age. He was like 25.

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Yeah, okay. Which is pretty standard, but he

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looks pretty old to be passing for 18. Yeah.

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DK drifts his ass all over this guy at this parking

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garage, and it is hype. He has this whole entourage.

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He just has this mean, mugging face that just

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looks like he knows what he's doing, and immediately

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I'm buying in, like, all right, we need to take

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this asshole down. I want to punch this guy's

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face. We want to drift him out of the fucking

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sky, all right? God, no, no, all you, all you.

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So what I was going to say is that unlike Too

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Fast, Too Furious, and even Fast and the Furious,

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which had these plots of either an undercover

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cop trying to bust a ring of thieves or an undercover

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cop trying to bust a drug kingpin. Tokyo Drift

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doesn't really have a plot. The setup is this

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high schooler gets into one too many car accidents

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because he's stealing these cars and he's either

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going to go to juvie or he has to go live with

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his dad in Japan, his estranged father. So he

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ends up going to Japan. and he's really i wouldn't

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say this movie big trouble little china it but

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he's just kind of there going from set piece

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to set piece okay to more car racing yeah there

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is no driving plot it's he's in japan he sees

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the racing he makes some friends who have car

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connections so he can get behind the wheel of

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a car he gets his ass handed to him by dk now

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he's embarrassed he's like i'm gonna learn to

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drift and that's That's the story. There is no

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way possible. The final act throws the Yakuza

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in there. Yeah, because he needs to bring honor

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to his family and his grandfather apparently

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really cares. I mean, haven't you heard the term

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Deus Ex Yakuza? Yeah, basically. Boom! But even

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that's not really a driver of the plot. You know,

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you've embarrassed the family. one too many times,

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get your act together, and, like, the finale

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is the DK, his grandfather is in the, I can't

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say it. Yakuza. Yakuza. Yakuza. And, you know,

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he gets showed up a bit, he looks kind of stupid,

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and the grandfather's like, okay, you guys are

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gonna do a race, and whoever wins can date this

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girl. Yeah, right, they put the love interest

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as, like, the bet. The bet? What? Yeah. Yeah.

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There's a girl who's like, my reputation is questionable,

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so I'm dating this guy, and if I don't date him,

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everybody thinks I'm a whore, and it's really

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stupid. She's easily indebted to the Yakuza.

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It's so stupid. Yeah, it's really stupid, but

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that's the finale. It's not like you have to

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get money, or you need to find the drugs, or

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you need to stop the bomb. It's a love story.

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You embarrassed my grandson, so do one more race,

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and we'll see who really... is like the king

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of thrifting his carly goes off a cliff and in

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theory he should have died and the grandfather's

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like girl you can date the american yeah what

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that's fine that's a wrap oh no that's the end

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the wrap is at the end the end credit sequence

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they tease What is it? Oh, we haven't even talked

00:21:02.579 --> 00:21:04.660
about Han. No, we haven't talked about the best

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character in the franchise. Whoa, whoa, whoa,

00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:09.480
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah,

00:21:09.559 --> 00:21:11.759
nah, nah, nah. Best character in the franchise?

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He's in the top three, at least. I don't think

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he's in the top three, but best? I don't think

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it's the hot take. I think I've heard that before.

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Everything needs to revolve around Dom Toretto.

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Yeah, no, Dom definitely is up there. We need

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to introduce who this character is. So, in Tokyo

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Drift, the American teenager, Sean, He totally

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fails at drifting because he's never had to do

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it before. This Chinese guy named Han is like,

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I will teach you how to drift. By the way, I

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have a lot of money, I'm pretty aloof, and I

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got great hair. His hair is fantastic. And I'm

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gonna die. Han and him become really good friends,

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and things kind of go south with the Drift King

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DK. There's a really great car chase sequence,

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and Han ultimately dies. Yep. And, you know,

00:22:03.690 --> 00:22:06.890
his loss, we felt that, because he was, like,

00:22:06.890 --> 00:22:09.089
by far the best thing in the movie. And then

00:22:09.089 --> 00:22:11.410
at the end of the film, after Sean becomes the

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new Drift King, and he's got his trophy girlfriend,

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the credits go, and then, you know, they're in

00:22:17.490 --> 00:22:20.910
the garage, and a car pulls up, the window rolls

00:22:20.910 --> 00:22:24.109
down, and there is Vin Diesel. Yeah, what was

00:22:24.109 --> 00:22:26.069
it they said? Oh, yeah. Yeah, he says he knows

00:22:26.069 --> 00:22:28.049
Han. He says he was, like, family. And then as

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soon as he said, like, family, I was like, what?

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And the end credits ends with them getting ready

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to do a race. We don't know who would win, but

00:22:37.509 --> 00:22:41.390
naturally Dom. And Han, in my opinion, so far,

00:22:41.549 --> 00:22:43.869
is like my favorite character in this franchise.

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That's fair. He's got great hair, and later he

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sleeps with Gal Gadot. Yeah, right. Exactly.

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I mean... He does. Damn, he does. We'll get there.

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We'll get there. Tokyo Drift. Tokyo Drift. brings

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us to fast four let's make uh fast four fast

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five and hobs and shaw fit into a five to ten

00:23:07.269 --> 00:23:10.650
minute like yeah sorry no no no we'll keep it

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brief because honestly it's fast four i don't

00:23:12.809 --> 00:23:15.769
really have any feelings on uh the it was kind

00:23:15.769 --> 00:23:17.789
of fine like that was like okay cool it's the

00:23:17.789 --> 00:23:20.650
big movie where where where brian and dom are

00:23:20.650 --> 00:23:22.829
back together again and there's you say ryan

00:23:23.940 --> 00:23:26.180
Oh, okay. I heard Ryan at first. I was like,

00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:28.400
did you just call him Ryan? Are we just calling

00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:32.220
him the wrong name on purpose now? Paul Walker.

00:23:32.940 --> 00:23:37.140
Yeah, Paul Walker. Whatever. You know, it's supposed

00:23:37.140 --> 00:23:39.460
to... The whole entire first half of the movie

00:23:39.460 --> 00:23:40.980
is this whole tension of, like, oh, man, like,

00:23:41.019 --> 00:23:43.039
they're on the opposite sides of the law, and

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Brian wants to, you know, help out Dom, but he

00:23:45.660 --> 00:23:47.619
also wants to be a good agent, so he needs to

00:23:47.619 --> 00:23:50.019
bring Dom in, and he's trying to lessen his sentence

00:23:50.019 --> 00:23:52.140
or whatever, and it's just meh. I don't know.

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There's just Dom. Yeah. Fair. Right. Yeah. I

00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:26.759
think it's the CIA. I don't remember who they

00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:29.599
are this time. It's the CIA, yeah. It's the CIA.

00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:32.480
He's been recruited by the CIA to help bust another

00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:35.579
drug kingpin who, it turns out, has ties to the

00:24:35.579 --> 00:24:39.619
probable murder of Letty. So that's why Dom and

00:24:39.619 --> 00:24:42.680
Brian don't really team up until the last third

00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:45.079
of the film because Dom's like, no, I'm going

00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:47.539
to do this on my own, and Brian's like, no, let

00:24:47.539 --> 00:24:51.559
me help you. It's fine. This is a movie that...

00:24:51.529 --> 00:24:54.170
that introduces Gal Gadot's character for a hot

00:24:54.170 --> 00:24:56.230
second I did not expect her to show up yeah but

00:24:56.230 --> 00:24:58.509
she comes she comes back that's good yeah yeah

00:24:58.509 --> 00:25:00.529
if she comes back it's great but I like Moody

00:25:00.529 --> 00:25:04.029
Dom Moody Dom the best scene in the movie was

00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:06.180
Jill alluded to it earlier, the best scene is

00:25:06.180 --> 00:25:08.519
when we find out that Dom actually has Sherlock

00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:11.500
Holmes powers, and, like, he drives the scene

00:25:11.500 --> 00:25:14.019
where Letty was supposedly murdered, and, like,

00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:17.279
pieces together exactly what happened with expert

00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:19.900
vision about, oh, this is where her car flipped

00:25:19.900 --> 00:25:22.859
over, and it flipped over exactly four times

00:25:22.859 --> 00:25:25.099
before it landed on its head, and then, yeah,

00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.160
it's just so silly. Goddamn, I'm gonna have to

00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:29.799
rewatch these, aren't I? Because I slightly remember

00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:31.680
it, but not completely, and it's just been a

00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:34.960
while. It's just, it's fine. I'm happy to see

00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:38.579
Vin back. It sets up the pieces nicely for Five.

00:25:38.819 --> 00:25:41.059
That's the best thing I can say about Four. It's

00:25:41.059 --> 00:25:44.160
like a transitional movie. It's fine. Not really

00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:48.420
my favorite, but it was okay. Five. Fast Five.

00:25:48.980 --> 00:25:52.220
Fast Five. So Four, as I said, just then sets

00:25:52.220 --> 00:25:55.200
up the pieces for Fast Five. Fast Five starts

00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:59.740
off, well, slight spoiler, Fast Four ends with

00:25:59.740 --> 00:26:03.200
Dom almost going to jail again, but Brian, And

00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:04.599
some other characters that we're going to bust

00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:08.339
about. So Fast Five picks up with them trying

00:26:08.339 --> 00:26:12.259
to save Dom from going to jail. And it's a really

00:26:12.259 --> 00:26:14.700
great set piece. There's a good car chase at

00:26:14.700 --> 00:26:18.140
the beginning. And then it cuts to them in Rio,

00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:20.319
right? They're in Rio? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They

00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:24.039
go to Rio. Brian's on the run. They meet up with

00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:27.359
some familiar faces from the first film. And

00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:29.200
the solution to their problems is we're going

00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:31.940
to steal some cars and sell them. We're going

00:26:31.940 --> 00:26:33.200
to make enough money and then we're going to

00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:35.880
live our lives. We don't really know what happened

00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:42.380
to Dom at this point. They do the crime. They

00:26:42.380 --> 00:26:45.220
jump on a train. They steal some cars. Things

00:26:45.220 --> 00:26:48.779
go sour very quickly. Dom shows up. It's a great

00:26:48.779 --> 00:26:55.299
moment. But people die. And Dom and... Brian

00:26:55.299 --> 00:26:57.920
go off into hiding because they've now pissed

00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:00.960
off this crime lord. Which then, because of these

00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.740
events, Dwayne The Rock Johnson's character,

00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:07.680
Hobbs, gets brought into the movie. Hobbs! Because

00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.660
some cops died, and no, no, Hobbs can't have

00:27:11.660 --> 00:27:15.319
that. No cops dying. So he's supposed to be like

00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:17.940
the hard -boiled cop that's like... The cop hunter.

00:27:18.099 --> 00:27:21.579
Or the killer. He's like the bad guy hunter.

00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:27.890
Dwayne The Rock Hobbs. There it is. He's extremely

00:27:27.890 --> 00:27:31.630
sweaty. They added sweat to him. He is very glistening.

00:27:35.630 --> 00:27:38.549
Even though he's been in a lot of movies at this

00:27:38.549 --> 00:27:42.269
point in his career, he's still working as an

00:27:42.269 --> 00:27:45.069
actor. Right now, I would say Dwayne The Rock

00:27:45.069 --> 00:27:47.589
Johnson is a fun actor. I like seeing him in

00:27:47.589 --> 00:27:49.289
movies, including Hobbs and Shaw. I think he's

00:27:49.289 --> 00:27:51.829
fun in that movie, too. He's found his rhythm.

00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:54.500
You can tell that he's not quite the thespian

00:27:54.500 --> 00:28:00.980
he is today. Yeah, that's fair. I will say that

00:28:00.980 --> 00:28:04.240
the real driving plot of this movie is after

00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:08.019
they've pissed off this crime lord in Rio, they

00:28:08.019 --> 00:28:11.200
decide that they're going to steal money from

00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.259
him. And they'll be set for life. And I didn't

00:28:15.259 --> 00:28:17.759
know it at the time, but the crime that they

00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:20.990
decide to do is basically the plot of... the

00:28:20.990 --> 00:28:24.309
italian job yep yeah i have now seen that yeah

00:28:24.309 --> 00:28:27.349
the italian job if i could sum it up in the in

00:28:27.349 --> 00:28:30.509
the my thoughts in in in succinctly about this

00:28:30.509 --> 00:28:32.450
movie is that it was fun but it made me just

00:28:32.450 --> 00:28:34.609
want to watch the italian job which we did uh

00:28:34.609 --> 00:28:36.910
basically this is kind of it felt like a knockoff

00:28:36.910 --> 00:28:39.789
of that almost which is which it yeah i don't

00:28:39.789 --> 00:28:43.049
know see i'll say that the the fast five the

00:28:43.049 --> 00:28:45.730
safe scene was probably one of my favorite pieces

00:28:45.730 --> 00:28:54.099
of this whole like movie series absolutely only

00:28:54.099 --> 00:28:56.180
your face is from the franchise. That's the payoff.

00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:58.960
That was the payoff. Yeah, I agree with that.

00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.339
That rewards the fans for watching all of these

00:29:02.339 --> 00:29:06.140
other movies. Right. It almost felt not quite

00:29:06.140 --> 00:29:07.660
Avengers -esque, but kind of that level. It's

00:29:07.660 --> 00:29:09.400
like, oh man, all these characters are back.

00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:12.240
Han's back. Gal Gadot's back. Tyrese is back.

00:29:12.420 --> 00:29:14.579
Let's go. Good, Chris. Better hide your baby

00:29:14.579 --> 00:29:17.660
oil. What's that? Better hide your baby oil.

00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:23.099
Fast Five was a lot of fun. I think it was probably

00:29:23.099 --> 00:29:26.440
15 minutes too long to set some things up. But

00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:29.200
it really, the payoff of seeing all these characters

00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.039
come together and play off one another, the heist,

00:29:32.059 --> 00:29:34.839
when they actually finally pull it off, is great.

00:29:35.059 --> 00:29:39.440
Though, knowing what we know now, and having

00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.960
seen Hobbs and Shaw, the first four films are

00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:48.039
still really tied to, these films are about street

00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.990
racing and essentially car porn. this film is

00:29:51.990 --> 00:29:56.490
the first one that had no car racing they tried

00:29:56.490 --> 00:29:58.390
there was a few moments where it was like we're

00:29:58.390 --> 00:30:01.250
gonna go let's race and they get close to the

00:30:01.250 --> 00:30:03.970
car and then whatever something happens and they

00:30:03.970 --> 00:30:07.529
stop from here on out these films go from being

00:30:07.529 --> 00:30:12.670
about street racing to pulling like heist films

00:30:12.670 --> 00:30:15.349
but with cars is my general understanding or

00:30:15.349 --> 00:30:23.670
cia or whatever yeah I'm going to miss the street

00:30:23.670 --> 00:30:26.569
racing. I think that's why Tokyo Drift is one

00:30:26.569 --> 00:30:28.549
of my favorites, is because that film did away

00:30:28.549 --> 00:30:30.849
with the plot completely and was all about the

00:30:30.849 --> 00:30:34.289
street racing. That's fair. We've kind of talked

00:30:34.289 --> 00:30:37.170
about Hobbs and Shaw before on this show, so

00:30:37.170 --> 00:30:40.950
we'll drop that one. Overall, where you guys

00:30:40.950 --> 00:30:43.170
are at, where would you give it one through five

00:30:43.170 --> 00:30:45.769
stars, the whole Fast and Furious series, to

00:30:45.769 --> 00:30:49.529
where you're at? The whole package? Yeah, the

00:30:49.529 --> 00:30:56.140
whole package. couch and said wow that was a

00:30:56.140 --> 00:30:58.740
waste of time that's fair though we can't it's

00:30:58.740 --> 00:31:00.299
not going to be like there might be one of those

00:31:00.299 --> 00:31:05.759
later today 3 .4 like 3 .5 yeah okay i'm at i'm

00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:07.640
gonna go like a two and a half because it's just

00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:09.339
right now the biggest problem my biggest problem

00:31:09.339 --> 00:31:11.960
the fast and furious is that i'm getting inconsistent

00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.099
enjoyment out of them you know like two fast

00:31:14.099 --> 00:31:18.599
three real low low and fast the fourth fast and

00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:20.779
furious fast and furious is not as fun for me

00:31:20.779 --> 00:31:24.710
either right um I think overall, I'm glad we're

00:31:24.710 --> 00:31:26.349
watching them, but, like, yeah, like, it's, like,

00:31:26.369 --> 00:31:29.130
it's, it's, uh, I don't know, yeah, probably

00:31:29.130 --> 00:31:31.170
about two and a half busters out of five. Yeah,

00:31:31.210 --> 00:31:33.849
okay. I say three, three and a half. Like, I,

00:31:33.930 --> 00:31:38.509
I enjoyed the set pieces. Two really is not as

00:31:38.509 --> 00:31:43.849
good upon rewatch. Break my heart. Same, same,

00:31:43.849 --> 00:31:46.809
same qualms about the, just Fast and Furious.

00:31:46.970 --> 00:31:50.869
It's just really inconsistent. I don't like Fast

00:31:50.869 --> 00:31:52.470
and Furious, so I'm on board with that. I care

00:31:52.470 --> 00:32:01.529
about, Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and the good news is you

00:32:01.529 --> 00:32:05.650
really only have one bad one of the three left.

00:32:08.309 --> 00:32:14.789
I think there's a bad one. Okay, well, I guess

00:32:14.789 --> 00:32:17.309
my opinion. I didn't care for six that much.

00:32:18.789 --> 00:32:23.299
Yeah. And seven and eight. Eight is okay. What's

00:32:23.299 --> 00:32:26.279
the last Paul Walker one, right? Seven is. Seven

00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:29.299
is, yeah. And seven is my favorite of them all.

00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:36.000
So it's giving away... So six, I think, is bad,

00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:39.599
but not terrible. Like, I still enjoyed it. And

00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:41.859
I think if I were to rank all of them, it'd be

00:32:41.859 --> 00:32:45.460
just more in the middle or, like, half bottom,

00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:49.519
you know? Yeah. Versus, like, seven is the top

00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.440
top. So you're in for some good ones. And then,

00:32:52.460 --> 00:32:54.599
like, eight's middle of the road. I think it

00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:57.519
helps that we're firmly in. I think Justin Lin

00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.980
directs... Oh, he didn't direct Fast Fury 7,

00:33:00.099 --> 00:33:02.079
but, like, now he's finally a consistent director,

00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:03.839
so at least there's a direction there. Right.

00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:22.480
Yeah. Right. It knows what it is. The car racing

00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:25.519
is really great. Yeah. It has some abominable

00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:28.559
CGI at some times. Of course. You know what?

00:33:28.619 --> 00:33:33.599
If you like a high octane experience where you

00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:36.400
don't have to think too hard and you might be

00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:38.819
a bit of a diesel head, seeing these movies on

00:33:38.819 --> 00:33:41.180
a big screen, oh my god, that would be such an

00:33:41.180 --> 00:33:44.819
experience. Yeah. See it in IMAX. Get the sounds

00:33:44.819 --> 00:33:48.099
too. I would watch Tokyo Direct in IMAX. Yeah.

00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:51.059
Hell yeah. All right, that'll bring us to Mitchell.

00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:54.019
Mitchell, what did you watch for this podcast

00:33:54.019 --> 00:33:56.519
here? So I guess I would say the closest tie

00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:59.140
-in that my movie has with the Fast and Furious

00:33:59.140 --> 00:34:02.119
franchise is actually with Tokyo Drift. So Andre,

00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:04.160
buckle up. You actually might like this one.

00:34:04.420 --> 00:34:08.480
So I'll say this. Over quarantine, my definition

00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:11.559
of what a movie is has definitely broadened,

00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:14.900
right? And we're at this point now where... Streaming

00:34:14.900 --> 00:34:17.159
services have become the haven of places to watch

00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:19.579
new things. And obviously documentary series

00:34:19.579 --> 00:34:22.340
have become kind of one of the big things to

00:34:22.340 --> 00:34:25.099
watch. And for me, something that just came out

00:34:25.099 --> 00:34:27.739
within the past week on Disney +, it's Marvel

00:34:27.739 --> 00:34:32.059
616. So it's an eight -part series. Every part

00:34:32.059 --> 00:34:35.599
is its own thing. There are eight mini documentaries

00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:39.179
that are about 40 to 50 minutes each. And they

00:34:39.179 --> 00:34:43.409
opened it. So the whole concept of the series

00:34:43.409 --> 00:34:46.409
is talking about real world culture based around

00:34:46.409 --> 00:34:49.469
Marvel characters. Nice. So the very first one

00:34:49.469 --> 00:34:52.769
that they get into is the Japanese Spider -Man

00:34:52.769 --> 00:34:57.489
TV show from the 1970s. Oh, all right. It is

00:34:57.489 --> 00:35:01.389
absolutely bonkers. So there's no Peter Parker.

00:35:01.730 --> 00:35:04.289
There's none of this, right? So let me, I took

00:35:04.289 --> 00:35:08.280
some notes here. So it aired from 70 to 79, 41

00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:11.639
episodes and a movie. And how long is the movie?

00:35:12.019 --> 00:35:16.679
24 minutes long. That's a movie? It was released

00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:19.400
in theaters and they still called it a movie,

00:35:19.460 --> 00:35:21.920
even though it was shorter than most of the TV

00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:25.440
shows. Yeah, seriously. So everything about this

00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:28.760
is bonkers. So the short story is this. A Marvel

00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:32.079
publisher from New York wanted to sell the rights

00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:35.139
to Spider -Man overseas somewhere. And he decided

00:35:35.139 --> 00:35:38.980
to go off and go to Japan. So here he is running

00:35:38.980 --> 00:35:43.179
around trying to figure out who to sell the rights

00:35:43.179 --> 00:35:45.880
to the Spider -Man character to. And he realized

00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:47.880
that when he was going to all these different

00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:51.900
publishers, the Japanese comic book readers,

00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:54.800
so basically manga readers, they were not into

00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.159
American comics because there's too many words.

00:35:57.849 --> 00:36:01.710
For manga, it's much more visually driven. And

00:36:01.710 --> 00:36:04.070
for a character like Spider -Man, where a lot

00:36:04.070 --> 00:36:06.630
of his character is what he says in his quips,

00:36:06.789 --> 00:36:10.469
there's just too many words to take in. So he

00:36:10.469 --> 00:36:12.949
realized that if they were going to sell this

00:36:12.949 --> 00:36:14.710
character to someone, they would totally have

00:36:14.710 --> 00:36:17.110
to revamp. And that's exactly what they did.

00:36:17.230 --> 00:36:20.670
So eventually they came upon a TV production

00:36:20.670 --> 00:36:23.050
company that specialized in children's media.

00:36:23.369 --> 00:36:25.590
And they're like, all right, we got this character.

00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:29.440
He crawls on walls. Here's his costume. Are you

00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.000
in? And they said, yes, but we're going to do

00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.639
something completely different. So the only thing

00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.579
that you can recognize from this show, there's

00:36:37.579 --> 00:36:40.300
no Aunt May, Uncle Ben, none of that. You would

00:36:40.300 --> 00:36:42.519
just recognize the costume and that's pretty

00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:46.320
much it. He doesn't even live in a big city because

00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:49.500
it costs too much money to film in Tokyo. So

00:36:49.500 --> 00:36:52.980
a lot of this is set in... I'm literally looking

00:36:52.980 --> 00:36:55.280
up Google. I've seen Japanese Firemen before.

00:36:55.820 --> 00:36:58.119
hasan looks like but i just googled just to look

00:36:58.119 --> 00:36:59.440
at google animations there's fireman holding

00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:03.579
a goddamn gun like a like he has a giant mecha

00:37:03.579 --> 00:37:07.440
yes okay absolutely so one of the things that

00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:09.840
they wanted to change because they knew like

00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:12.500
to sell this to a japanese children's audience

00:37:12.500 --> 00:37:15.659
that at the time and still now i would argue

00:37:15.659 --> 00:37:19.300
that robots are a huge deal and they sell a lot

00:37:19.300 --> 00:37:22.440
of toys which is kind of the story for all of

00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:24.659
children's media success if you can capitalize

00:37:24.659 --> 00:37:27.679
with it with toys then you're in you're in the

00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.699
clear so just look at power rangers yeah so the

00:37:30.699 --> 00:37:32.980
backstory for this spider -man he's not bitten

00:37:32.980 --> 00:37:35.440
by a radioactive spider he doesn't have a crush

00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:38.900
on mary jane this guy is a motocross stuntman

00:37:38.900 --> 00:37:44.369
and event so his father studies space archaeology

00:37:44.369 --> 00:37:47.809
that's like his title and in the pilot his father

00:37:47.809 --> 00:37:51.230
investigates a ufo crashing in the middle of

00:37:51.230 --> 00:37:54.150
this canyon when he gets down there he gets killed

00:37:54.150 --> 00:37:57.050
so the guy who eventually becomes spider -man

00:37:57.050 --> 00:38:00.610
who's his son goes down there and finds his dead

00:38:00.610 --> 00:38:04.070
father and as he's mourning he sees someone in

00:38:04.070 --> 00:38:08.269
a cave goes into this cave and it's this alien

00:38:08.269 --> 00:38:12.739
who has the power of spiders And he's just like,

00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.780
yo, man, I'm here because there's this bad guy

00:38:15.780 --> 00:38:17.780
who wants to take over the world. I'm trying

00:38:17.780 --> 00:38:20.420
to stop him. I'm too weak to stop him. So I'm

00:38:20.420 --> 00:38:23.079
going to need you to carry on my fight. Do your

00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:25.599
thing. Yeah. And the other guy's like, what?

00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:29.159
And then before you know it, homeboy gives his

00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:32.440
blood, his spider blood, to the guy who eventually

00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:34.800
becomes Spider -Man. So it's not a radioactive

00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.059
spider. It's a dude giving another dude his own

00:38:37.059 --> 00:38:39.920
blood, which I'm sure has a lot of medical issues.

00:38:41.340 --> 00:38:45.840
so anyway um so along with the spider powers

00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:48.639
that he has now inherited and it's more of like

00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:51.599
inspector gadget level stuff because he has like

00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:54.099
a wristband like a singular wristband that carries

00:38:54.099 --> 00:38:57.559
all his webbing and stuff um Which is rope, by

00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.099
the way. It's a very thick rope. They're not

00:39:00.099 --> 00:39:03.179
even pretending that it's webbing. Okay. And

00:39:03.179 --> 00:39:06.760
he also inherits this alien's ship, which is

00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.159
called the Marveler. So a little nod to Marvel.

00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:12.880
And the Marveler, when this guy's in a position

00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.239
where he's fighting a gigantic kaiju, which is

00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:18.460
like every episode, will turn into this thing

00:39:18.460 --> 00:39:23.349
called the Leopardon or Leopardon. Yes! And it

00:39:23.349 --> 00:39:26.789
looks just like you would expect. Voltron, Transformers,

00:39:26.789 --> 00:39:30.190
anything from Power Rangers. Basically, the visual

00:39:30.190 --> 00:39:32.849
cues for all of those things started with Leopardon.

00:39:33.070 --> 00:39:36.849
Leopardon. Yeah, and the main villain is not

00:39:36.849 --> 00:39:41.630
Green Goblin. It's not Doc Ock. It is a man named

00:39:41.630 --> 00:39:45.559
Professor Monster. Professor Monster. Professor

00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:48.059
Monster. But get this. So the reason why they

00:39:48.059 --> 00:39:51.139
chose Professor Monster. Okay. So in the Japanese

00:39:51.139 --> 00:39:55.780
language, they stylized the name by saying Professor

00:39:55.780 --> 00:39:59.539
in Japanese and Monster in English. So it sounds

00:39:59.539 --> 00:40:03.000
like a mix of two languages. Yes. They love the

00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:05.940
puns. They loved it. And they thought it sounded

00:40:05.940 --> 00:40:08.900
cool to little Japanese kids. Because Monster,

00:40:08.900 --> 00:40:11.179
it doesn't sound goofy. It sounds cool. Yeah.

00:40:11.179 --> 00:40:15.650
So anyway. That is basically a glimpse behind

00:40:15.650 --> 00:40:19.409
of basically how they completely converted this

00:40:19.409 --> 00:40:22.469
character for a Japanese audience. And the big

00:40:22.469 --> 00:40:24.670
part of this documentary, they're interviewing

00:40:24.670 --> 00:40:26.969
all the people who are part of it. And they're

00:40:26.969 --> 00:40:28.530
like, yeah, we're making it on the cheap, but

00:40:28.530 --> 00:40:30.989
we're getting a lot of success. And then finally,

00:40:31.150 --> 00:40:33.530
the bigwigs at Marvel, including Stan Lee, they

00:40:33.530 --> 00:40:35.829
fly over to Japan to give it their blessing.

00:40:36.130 --> 00:40:39.809
They watch it in some conference room in Tokyo.

00:40:40.510 --> 00:40:42.409
And after it's all done, everyone's sweating

00:40:42.409 --> 00:40:45.570
bullets. The people who worked on this. And they

00:40:45.570 --> 00:40:48.110
got a sense in the room that no one from America

00:40:48.110 --> 00:40:51.210
liked this. And they were right. Except for one

00:40:51.210 --> 00:40:53.809
person who stood up and said, I like it. Stanley.

00:40:53.929 --> 00:40:56.929
Stanley! Hell yeah. Stan is the guy who said,

00:40:56.989 --> 00:41:00.530
you know what? For the first time ever. I felt

00:41:00.530 --> 00:41:03.369
like this was a living comic book. Nice. And

00:41:03.369 --> 00:41:05.550
there is nothing that we had seen from live action

00:41:05.550 --> 00:41:08.690
American Spider -Man that would hold a candle

00:41:08.690 --> 00:41:10.829
to this because this Spider -Man was actually

00:41:10.829 --> 00:41:14.829
climbing on walls. They did all of the stunts

00:41:14.829 --> 00:41:17.409
in a practical way. So when he was scaling up

00:41:17.409 --> 00:41:20.230
a building, there was a stuntman. climbing up

00:41:20.230 --> 00:41:22.889
a building with some strategically placed rope.

00:41:23.150 --> 00:41:26.050
So a lot of the stunts were practical. Most of

00:41:26.050 --> 00:41:28.309
it was, I would say. And they didn't go cheap

00:41:28.309 --> 00:41:30.989
in terms of, well, it was entirely cheap. But

00:41:30.989 --> 00:41:33.210
they tried to get the most practical effects,

00:41:33.349 --> 00:41:36.070
action sequences possible. And that's what Stan

00:41:36.070 --> 00:41:39.349
loved the most. And he understood that the changes

00:41:39.349 --> 00:41:41.510
that were made were necessary to sell it to us.

00:41:41.710 --> 00:41:44.530
They made the necessary money appear for the

00:41:44.530 --> 00:41:48.440
thing. So that to me shows that Stanley wasn't

00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:51.039
so precious about his own creation that any sort

00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.900
of big changes to the character he was still

00:41:53.900 --> 00:41:59.619
cool with still worked. Has anybody else read

00:41:59.619 --> 00:42:04.099
Ready Player One? I did not read it. A long time

00:42:04.099 --> 00:42:39.610
ago. That's why I asked. Is this the one that

00:42:39.610 --> 00:42:42.730
has the robot? I knew Leopardon sounded familiar,

00:42:42.929 --> 00:42:45.489
but like I said, it's been forever since I read

00:42:45.489 --> 00:42:48.289
Ready Player One. I think I want to hate rant

00:42:48.289 --> 00:42:52.789
for why I despise the movie. So this is a movie

00:42:52.789 --> 00:42:55.730
that has a legacy far beyond its run. It was

00:42:55.730 --> 00:42:58.530
only on Japanese airwaves for about a year, and

00:42:58.530 --> 00:43:00.409
the whole stipulation for Stanley and everyone

00:43:00.409 --> 00:43:02.849
else giving their blessing to this is that this

00:43:02.849 --> 00:43:07.230
would not see Any audience beyond Japan forever

00:43:07.230 --> 00:43:10.429
in their mind, right? And of course, technology

00:43:10.429 --> 00:43:13.469
changes and people's curiosity for their favorite

00:43:13.469 --> 00:43:15.909
characters change. And eventually Marvel released

00:43:15.909 --> 00:43:19.610
all these TV shows and the movie, quote unquote,

00:43:19.829 --> 00:43:23.090
on Marvel .com back in 2009. So that was the

00:43:23.090 --> 00:43:26.889
first time, at least in a legal way. that American

00:43:26.889 --> 00:43:29.690
audiences could watch the Japanese Spider -Man.

00:43:29.769 --> 00:43:33.070
Nice. And the legacy that it holds, you know,

00:43:33.090 --> 00:43:36.090
the show was canceled not so much for the lack

00:43:36.090 --> 00:43:39.650
of success, but the production company that put

00:43:39.650 --> 00:43:42.170
this on realized, well, the real big hits here

00:43:42.170 --> 00:43:44.929
are the robots. Right. And they started to develop

00:43:44.929 --> 00:43:47.389
more shows around that. Marvel took that same

00:43:47.389 --> 00:43:51.119
cue, and they decided to make more comic... book

00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:54.340
-based robot stories. And eventually, the big

00:43:54.340 --> 00:43:58.099
hit became Transformers. And that was a big partnership

00:43:58.099 --> 00:44:02.139
with Hasbro, obviously. But if you look at Japanese...

00:44:02.139 --> 00:44:04.679
What's up? Oh, sorry. I'm just looking at...

00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:06.820
So yeah, this was developed by Toei. Toei. Yes.

00:44:07.579 --> 00:44:09.139
So, yeah, okay, got it. That makes a lot of sense

00:44:09.139 --> 00:44:11.800
because, yes, they basically started the giant

00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:14.739
robot genre, as it were. Absolutely. So they

00:44:14.739 --> 00:44:17.380
completely went into the right direction, and

00:44:17.380 --> 00:44:19.960
you can see the influence everywhere from Power

00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:23.119
Rangers, I would argue, a different anime also

00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:26.219
took influence from this, like Gundam. So the

00:44:26.219 --> 00:44:30.280
legacy of this short 11 -month run is huge. And

00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:33.579
for those who are really into the Spider -Verse,

00:44:33.619 --> 00:44:37.360
they have confirmed... Possibly that this Japanese

00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:39.400
version of Spider -Man will make an appearance.

00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:44.099
Yes! That will be very cool. Spider -Man 2099.

00:44:44.260 --> 00:44:47.579
We got the Japanese Spider -Man. I love it. So

00:44:47.579 --> 00:44:51.159
this is a great... I believe this is only the

00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.320
first episode that I've seen, but I'm considering

00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:55.820
it its own documentary film. I learned a lot.

00:44:56.219 --> 00:44:58.519
For those who love Spider -Man and definitely

00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:01.519
was into the whole idea that Spider -Man can

00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:04.099
be anyone, that Spider -Verse put out there,

00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:06.980
I highly recommend this. It's under the Marvel

00:45:06.980 --> 00:45:10.719
616 series. It's called Marvel 616 because that

00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:13.800
is the main comic book universe that the main

00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:18.179
comic book superheroes live in for Marvel. For

00:45:18.179 --> 00:45:22.699
those who are wondering, the MCU is Earth -199999.

00:45:23.099 --> 00:45:26.920
So there's the multiverse. The other episode

00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:30.179
that I have not seen yet is about cosplay. We

00:45:30.179 --> 00:45:32.960
have Paul Scheer leading one episode about hunting

00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:35.599
down the most forgotten characters in the Marvel

00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:41.239
Universe. We have writers and artists creating

00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:43.719
new storylines using the Marvel method, which

00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.920
is very famous. And then they have something

00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:49.900
called Spotlight, which is about people in black

00:45:49.900 --> 00:45:52.900
box theaters putting on Marvel plays. Oh, that

00:45:52.900 --> 00:45:55.079
sounds really cool. Yeah, so it's a cool little

00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:57.960
series. They got eight episodes so far. I'm going

00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.699
to call it a movie because this episode and it

00:46:00.699 --> 00:46:03.000
seems like all these episodes can stand on their

00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:06.579
own. And it's just one of the cool parts about

00:46:06.579 --> 00:46:10.619
comic book fandom that I saw as a young San Diego

00:46:10.619 --> 00:46:12.880
kid who went to Comic -Con every year. And now

00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:15.760
to see it put out on a mainstream platform like

00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:18.360
Disney+. I mean, you know, 20 years later for

00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:20.880
me of going through all this love affair with

00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:24.260
comic books. It's just awesome, you know? It's

00:46:24.260 --> 00:46:26.760
like I feel validated. Yeah. This fandom feels...

00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:30.360
was validated so the japanese spider -man first

00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:33.380
pilot episode of marvel 616 i'm going to give

00:46:33.380 --> 00:46:37.380
it a four out of five spider ropes spider ropes

00:46:37.380 --> 00:46:40.739
spider ropes it works yeah yeah yeah look aside

00:46:40.739 --> 00:46:43.860
i feel like this so this is not the first like

00:46:43.860 --> 00:46:45.800
little disney document docuseries that they have

00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:49.659
put out no they have a whole number of them there's

00:46:49.659 --> 00:46:53.059
a really the first the first one that i happened

00:46:53.059 --> 00:46:54.579
to see it might have been like the first one

00:46:54.579 --> 00:46:58.260
in this series that they're doing is just how

00:46:58.260 --> 00:47:01.579
like the history of disney disney world disney

00:47:01.579 --> 00:47:03.699
everything i can't remember it's the imaginary

00:47:03.699 --> 00:47:06.659
story they're all very very good yeah yeah the

00:47:06.659 --> 00:47:08.780
imaginary story i think is the one you're talking

00:47:08.780 --> 00:47:11.199
about that's what i'm talking about yep imaginary

00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:14.059
story um yeah if any of you guys haven't if you

00:47:14.059 --> 00:47:15.539
guys haven't seen that one i highly recommend

00:47:15.539 --> 00:47:18.559
it if you're they recently did the frozen the

00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:21.780
making of frozen 2 which for a company that makes

00:47:21.780 --> 00:47:23.840
such important films it's kind of shocking that

00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:26.159
they don't really have a lot of behind -the -scenes

00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:30.960
footage. It would be amazing if Disney did what

00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:33.179
Peter Jackson did for the making of The Lord

00:47:33.179 --> 00:47:34.460
of the Rings and The Hobbits, and I feel like

00:47:34.460 --> 00:47:38.840
Disney's missing out on an opportunity. So if

00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:40.840
you haven't seen the making of Frozen 2, I highly

00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:42.980
recommend that. But it's great to hear that they're

00:47:42.980 --> 00:47:45.719
continuing to put out really good quality content

00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:48.860
on the history of either their original properties

00:47:48.860 --> 00:47:51.599
or the properties that they've acquired in the

00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:54.360
last couple years. absolutely and they've done

00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.480
a lot of great things beyond the uh the imagineering

00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.400
story they've also done inside pixar which is

00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:03.519
more of like 15 episode chunks but that's new

00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:06.380
too that is new and then they also did a behind

00:48:06.380 --> 00:48:08.320
the scenes look at the making of the mandalorian

00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:12.159
which is really cool yes yes that's been on my

00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:14.599
list too disney's going all in on this and i'm

00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:19.070
for it yeah nice Nice. That sounds awesome. It's

00:48:19.070 --> 00:48:21.230
something that I realize I haven't done enough

00:48:21.230 --> 00:48:23.889
Disney plus perusing because I haven't found

00:48:23.889 --> 00:48:27.630
some of the stuff. Okay, I guess that brings

00:48:27.630 --> 00:48:33.250
it to the bad movie of the pod. What do you got?

00:48:33.789 --> 00:48:40.530
The bad movie of the pod was Tsunami. B? B. Like

00:48:40.530 --> 00:48:45.429
B -E -E. No, like B -E -E, like Stingy Bees,

00:48:45.429 --> 00:48:51.610
like, yeah. It's, um... Uh... It's... It's a

00:48:51.610 --> 00:48:55.809
movie, yeah. Is it a B -movie? It is a D -movie.

00:48:56.010 --> 00:49:00.110
Oh, it's a D -movie. Ouch. That really stings,

00:49:00.150 --> 00:49:02.429
Mike. Oh my god, they even have that on the fucking

00:49:02.429 --> 00:49:06.190
poster. Don't do that. It says, this one's gonna

00:49:06.190 --> 00:49:10.889
sting on the poster for Tsunami. It stars no

00:49:10.889 --> 00:49:15.869
one you know. Which is a great start point. The

00:49:15.869 --> 00:49:18.369
beginning of the movie, you see this woman gathering

00:49:18.369 --> 00:49:21.050
sticks in what looks like a post -apocalyptic

00:49:21.050 --> 00:49:27.650
world. Jesus. Easy for me to say. And you don't

00:49:27.650 --> 00:49:29.530
know why she's grabbing these sticks, but she's

00:49:29.530 --> 00:49:31.750
just grabbing these sticks. And you're just like,

00:49:31.849 --> 00:49:33.750
okay. And then all of a sudden, title screen.

00:49:34.210 --> 00:49:37.949
Tsunami! And it's these people that are exploring

00:49:37.949 --> 00:49:42.400
a rainforest. And they see these gigantic hives

00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:45.340
and they go, how are we going to destroy this

00:49:45.340 --> 00:49:48.139
whole species? And they're like, oh, we'll get

00:49:48.139 --> 00:49:51.579
the queen. And then the queen is pissed and then

00:49:51.579 --> 00:49:55.000
they all die. So you're thinking these are the

00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:57.039
people you care about? No. These are not the

00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:01.300
people you care about. Then we go to a guy waking

00:50:01.300 --> 00:50:03.400
up from a dream where his brother was shot by

00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:09.179
a cop. This dude wears nothing but yellow. He

00:50:09.179 --> 00:50:15.510
has He has a friend in yellow. He has a sister.

00:50:15.750 --> 00:50:18.230
They don't really establish a relationship. They

00:50:18.230 --> 00:50:20.710
might be sister, brother. They might be together.

00:50:21.010 --> 00:50:24.329
Like, that's how creepy it is. Got it. But they

00:50:24.329 --> 00:50:27.170
all wear yellow because they are obviously in

00:50:27.170 --> 00:50:29.110
a gang and they didn't want to represent Blood

00:50:29.110 --> 00:50:33.650
or Crips, so they went yellow. Okay. All right.

00:50:34.190 --> 00:50:39.019
L .A. is starting on fire. because people are

00:50:39.019 --> 00:50:40.980
trying to get rid of these bees that are attacking

00:50:40.980 --> 00:50:42.619
everybody. So they decide they're going to hop

00:50:42.619 --> 00:50:44.699
in their car, and they're going to go and get

00:50:44.699 --> 00:50:47.019
out of there so they don't get stung by these

00:50:47.019 --> 00:50:50.599
massive bees that are now forming into a tornado.

00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:57.400
No, not a tsunami, a tornado. Okay, so the title

00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:00.280
is just there for the pun. Yes, 100%. I see,

00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:03.760
I see. They don't ever reference it, because

00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:07.630
I was ready to finish my beer. When they said,

00:51:07.730 --> 00:51:12.489
oh no, it's a tsunami. But they don't say it.

00:51:12.570 --> 00:51:14.389
They don't say it. They say it. Because there's

00:51:14.389 --> 00:51:16.909
a tsunami. Right. It doesn't take place on water.

00:51:17.190 --> 00:51:20.750
So it definitely isn't a tsunami. And it definitely

00:51:20.750 --> 00:51:25.730
isn't a tsunami. Oh, God. So where does the name

00:51:25.730 --> 00:51:29.010
come from? They wanted the pun. They just got

00:51:29.010 --> 00:51:31.730
the pun. They did all of that for a pun. Yep.

00:51:31.929 --> 00:51:34.940
They got you to watch it. no it's not yes it

00:51:34.940 --> 00:51:37.500
did mike no it did not mike this is a safe place

00:51:37.500 --> 00:51:41.980
uh i will i will shout out real good real r -e

00:51:41.980 --> 00:51:44.880
-e -l good okay you put all your services in

00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.239
there and then you can see what you want to watch

00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:49.599
based on that okay and you can do things like

00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.820
filter terrible movies oh great and so i filtered

00:51:52.820 --> 00:51:54.780
it and this is like i've done it a character

00:51:54.780 --> 00:51:59.340
oh wow yeah the boss mock two I didn't know he

00:51:59.340 --> 00:52:01.860
had an acting career. Yes, he did have an acting

00:52:01.860 --> 00:52:05.320
career. It lasted two movies, I think. See, I

00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:07.579
just know him for football. Yes, and then there

00:52:07.579 --> 00:52:09.940
was one with Randy Couture, and then there's

00:52:09.940 --> 00:52:12.719
an Avengers movie that takes place in the Brothers

00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:16.079
Grimm universe. If you check out our Instagram,

00:52:16.260 --> 00:52:19.179
I posted the six of my favorite that I saw on

00:52:19.179 --> 00:52:22.000
there. I love the Brothers Grimm, so I have to

00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:23.940
check that out. You do not need to check that

00:52:23.940 --> 00:52:26.980
out, because it's awful. And there's a second

00:52:26.980 --> 00:52:30.760
one that's worse. that they go through time travel.

00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:33.820
I see. But they're called Avengers Grimm. They

00:52:33.820 --> 00:52:35.539
didn't even hide that they're trying to be a

00:52:35.539 --> 00:52:39.139
Grimm Avengers story. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's just

00:52:39.139 --> 00:52:44.320
not worth it. But back to Tsunami. So our heroes,

00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:47.719
the three wearing yellow, one looks like Exhibit,

00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:51.059
one looks like Steve Aoki, and the other one

00:52:51.059 --> 00:52:56.079
looks like Mary J. Blige. And so I will call

00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:59.500
them... By their names, but I may refer to them

00:52:59.500 --> 00:53:02.260
as the rap names because Steve Aoki is definitely

00:53:02.260 --> 00:53:04.340
Steve Aoki, even though he's not Steve Aoki.

00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:07.639
So now I want to watch this with those three

00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:10.360
in the movie. See, that would be great. No, no

00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:13.679
you do not. Are you kidding? Like X to the Z

00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:17.380
and Steve Aoki together? The UC Santa Barbara,

00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:21.159
you know, bread son? Well, so the issue exhibit

00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:24.219
has one emotion throughout the film, and that's

00:53:24.219 --> 00:53:27.219
angry. Is he angry because these rides ain't

00:53:27.219 --> 00:53:30.079
pimped out? He is angry because his brother was

00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:32.420
shot by police. Okay, that's probably more legitimate.

00:53:32.659 --> 00:53:34.920
Yeah. And then when we see them, they're like

00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:37.840
traveling through this country or like this country

00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:40.780
land. Not like, oh, it's a different country.

00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:44.460
It's the country. It's a rural area. They have

00:53:44.460 --> 00:53:50.500
been stopped by two rednecks who are just rednecks

00:53:50.500 --> 00:53:53.460
and that's their character. and they have like

00:53:53.460 --> 00:53:57.079
machine guns pointed at them and then the the

00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:00.239
others are like replying back with like pistols

00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:03.559
yeah it's not it's a one -sided battle i see

00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:07.860
um sheriff comes and it's just like jesse put

00:54:07.860 --> 00:54:10.179
down your gun and jesse's obviously the main

00:54:10.179 --> 00:54:13.300
redneck that we're going to not care about and

00:54:13.300 --> 00:54:15.500
once he puts down his gun all he does is become

00:54:15.500 --> 00:54:18.550
a wimp Like the entire time now he's just like,

00:54:18.610 --> 00:54:23.809
I don't want to get stung by the bees. That's

00:54:23.809 --> 00:54:27.469
an accurate portrayal. Yes, this is his acting.

00:54:27.869 --> 00:54:30.230
This is what the director told him. This is your

00:54:30.230 --> 00:54:31.969
motivation. You don't want to get stung. So the

00:54:31.969 --> 00:54:36.090
loss of the gun emasculated him. Yes. So he is

00:54:36.090 --> 00:54:42.110
a modern day Republican. Wow. Wow. Yeah, wow.

00:54:42.829 --> 00:54:50.710
Hot take. Let's go. Damn! I didn't know we'd

00:54:50.710 --> 00:54:53.690
get some political commentary. Hot take. You're

00:54:53.690 --> 00:54:55.690
welcome. I don't know how hot that is. I think

00:54:55.690 --> 00:55:00.429
it's pretty spot on. Okay. So they're all in

00:55:00.429 --> 00:55:05.610
a Mexican standoff against each other. And finally,

00:55:05.630 --> 00:55:07.429
everybody puts their guns away. The other redneck

00:55:07.429 --> 00:55:09.150
picks up the guns, puts it in the back of the

00:55:09.150 --> 00:55:13.690
sheriff's car. This is important for later. So

00:55:13.690 --> 00:55:15.929
all of the guns besides the sheriffs are in the

00:55:15.929 --> 00:55:18.710
back of the car. And then they start hearing

00:55:18.710 --> 00:55:21.789
buzzing. And the sheriff's like, get to your

00:55:21.789 --> 00:55:24.710
cars! And the rednecks, of course, have locked

00:55:24.710 --> 00:55:27.610
their doors. So they can't get into their car.

00:55:28.949 --> 00:55:32.289
Our guy Jesse gets into the car, but his buddy

00:55:32.289 --> 00:55:37.409
does not. And a bee, poorly CGI'd, attacks the

00:55:37.409 --> 00:55:42.199
buddy and kills him. I know. How poorly CGI do

00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:45.500
we talk? We're talking very poorly. Like Birdemic

00:55:45.500 --> 00:55:49.059
level? Yes. Okay. And this is what I will say

00:55:49.059 --> 00:55:52.659
about this movie. If this is what we got for

00:55:52.659 --> 00:55:55.639
the entire movie, okay. It's not going to be

00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:59.840
great, but it'd be so bad it's fun. If that's

00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:03.619
the movie we got. We did not get this movie.

00:56:05.380 --> 00:56:08.699
The sheriff gets this... Alright, so like the...

00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:11.719
I don't even know how to describe them. So there

00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:14.860
are three wearing yellow. The yellow gang drive

00:56:14.860 --> 00:56:20.400
off. The yellow bellies drive off. Jesse hops

00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:23.559
in the car with the sheriff. The yellow bellies

00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:25.780
get stuck in the middle because they run out

00:56:25.780 --> 00:56:29.099
of gas. But luckily, the sheriff and Jesse, who's

00:56:29.099 --> 00:56:32.300
a racist piece of shit, stop to pick them up.

00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:37.639
Well, the sheriff then, they're driving. And

00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:40.480
she accidentally stops paying attention and almost

00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:44.739
drives them off a cliff. Accidentally? Yes. How

00:56:44.739 --> 00:56:46.780
does one accidentally stop looking at the road?

00:56:47.099 --> 00:56:49.800
Um, there was a bee or something, or she was

00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:54.179
distracted because, um, spoiler alert, she is

00:56:54.179 --> 00:56:59.940
the cop who killed the exhibit's brother. Because

00:56:59.940 --> 00:57:02.780
this movie needed to go Star Wars where everyone

00:57:02.780 --> 00:57:05.739
is connected. I'm into that. I'm into family

00:57:05.739 --> 00:57:07.630
dramas. Yeah, I'm down. No. It's kind of like

00:57:07.630 --> 00:57:09.710
Lost, you know? It all has a kinder meaning.

00:57:10.030 --> 00:57:12.969
Yeah, it's just like Lost. It didn't end well.

00:57:13.110 --> 00:57:13.969
You guys are killing me with this. You guys are

00:57:13.969 --> 00:57:16.650
killing me with this. We're having a good time.

00:57:16.909 --> 00:57:19.530
Keep going. So after they get off the cliff,

00:57:19.789 --> 00:57:22.230
because they have to crawl out the windows, the

00:57:22.230 --> 00:57:24.969
car falls to its doom, so there goes all their

00:57:24.969 --> 00:57:27.070
guns except for the sheriff's gun, because it

00:57:27.070 --> 00:57:28.590
was in the back, and they couldn't grab them

00:57:28.590 --> 00:57:33.210
all. They get to a meadow that they have to get

00:57:33.210 --> 00:57:38.000
to a pipe to hide from the tsunamis. And Steve

00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:42.159
Aoki dies. You can't call them tsunamis. Right.

00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:46.480
And really, they're wasps, so we'll go with Waspnado.

00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:51.920
Waspnado. They're not even bees. They're wasps.

00:57:51.940 --> 00:57:56.420
So Waspnado starts going to town on Steve Aoki.

00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:02.539
Mary J. Blige falls over. And for some reason,

00:58:02.579 --> 00:58:06.320
she's spared. She's Mary J. Blige. We don't know

00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:08.440
why, but it's not real Mary J. Blige. It's just

00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:09.880
a girl that kind of looks like Mary J. Blige.

00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:12.420
Mary J. Blige? I need to say this. I need to

00:58:12.420 --> 00:58:14.360
say it. Do you think the reason she was spared

00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:18.440
is because bees can detect royalty? No. No, they

00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:21.539
go into why she was spared. Wait, there's a reason?

00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:23.960
There's a reason. Oh. Are you sure she's not

00:58:23.960 --> 00:58:26.840
the queen? There's a reason. I can't wait to

00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:28.920
hear this. Well, we're getting to it. So at this

00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:31.099
point, it's like horror elements. That's what

00:58:31.099 --> 00:58:34.539
the whole thing is. They sleep in this, like,

00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:37.519
tunnel because they're like okay we'll wait until

00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:39.820
nightfall because these things are probably not

00:58:39.820 --> 00:58:42.980
nocturnal so then we can escape to this farmhouse

00:58:42.980 --> 00:58:46.739
that we know is there why they're okay in the

00:58:46.739 --> 00:58:48.820
tunnel i don't know because the bees can just

00:58:48.820 --> 00:58:52.360
literally come in and sting them all but for

00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:55.059
whatever reason they're okay in the tunnel all

00:58:55.059 --> 00:58:59.739
of a sudden steve aoki's there and exhibits like

00:58:59.739 --> 00:59:03.230
oh cool i'm gonna help my buddy Steals the gun

00:59:03.230 --> 00:59:05.730
from the sheriff who falls asleep holding the

00:59:05.730 --> 00:59:11.170
gun. Mind you. So he steals the gun and he walks

00:59:11.170 --> 00:59:13.989
over to Steve Aoki and he's like, hey, you okay?

00:59:14.449 --> 00:59:22.989
And he's like, he's a zombie. He's a zombie.

00:59:23.710 --> 00:59:26.030
Does he have a stinger now? No, he does not have

00:59:26.030 --> 00:59:32.119
a stinger. He's a regular zombie, yeah. No, he

00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:34.320
does not. I don't know if they intended for him

00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:38.019
to be a zombie. It sounds like a missed opportunity.

00:59:38.380 --> 00:59:41.440
He is a zombie. And this never gets brought up

00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:44.139
again until after the movie's over. Wait, what?

00:59:44.360 --> 00:59:45.579
That they become zombies. So it comes back in

00:59:45.579 --> 00:59:47.880
the post -credit scene? There is a post -credit

00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:52.719
scene, yes. Wow. So it never comes back the entire

00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:56.619
WrestleWay. They shoot him. They get to the farmhouse.

00:59:57.159 --> 00:59:59.480
Farmhouse of course has a guy that's just like

00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:02.059
I'm gonna protect my daughter from you guys and

01:00:02.059 --> 01:00:05.780
the bees. And he gets knocked out and tied up.

01:00:08.579 --> 01:00:10.760
Exhibit figures out that she's the sheriff that

01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:16.500
shot his brother so he also gets tied up. There's

01:00:16.500 --> 01:00:20.800
a little girl who is like the daughter of the

01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:26.139
guy. Of course there is. And she finds out that

01:00:26.570 --> 01:00:29.250
The reason she was spared when the bees came

01:00:29.250 --> 01:00:33.409
was because she believes in God. Oh, no, it's

01:00:33.409 --> 01:00:35.289
one of those movies? Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

01:00:35.309 --> 01:00:36.989
Are you just telling me that this movie is a

01:00:36.989 --> 01:00:40.429
religious message now? This movie is a religious

01:00:40.429 --> 01:00:45.210
movie. Oh! Is Kirk Cameron going to pop up next?

01:00:45.489 --> 01:00:48.429
Nope. Yeah, no, I'm expecting fucking, I don't

01:00:48.429 --> 01:00:52.710
know. They spend 40 minutes in this farmhouse

01:00:52.710 --> 01:00:54.969
talking about if they have faith, they can get

01:00:54.969 --> 01:00:57.559
through it. and there's only one more bee attack

01:00:57.559 --> 01:01:00.260
that really doesn't kill anybody except for Jesse.

01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:03.619
Because he doesn't believe. No, because he leaves

01:01:03.619 --> 01:01:06.599
his friends. He gets in the car and leaves his

01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:09.000
friends behind, and basically they're just like,

01:01:09.099 --> 01:01:12.039
you were a douche, you die. So this is like,

01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:14.940
this is the end. Yes. The Seth Rogen movie. Yep.

01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:17.679
Okay, gotcha. But Mary J. Blige has a cross that

01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:20.500
you never saw before. And all of a sudden it's

01:01:20.500 --> 01:01:22.579
like, oh, this is why she was spared earlier.

01:01:22.699 --> 01:01:25.679
But Steve Aoki's a douche, so he died. That sounds

01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:28.639
racist now. But, so if you're wearing a cross,

01:01:28.900 --> 01:01:31.880
if you're wearing a cross, I have seen so many

01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:33.900
people wear those. Yep. Who are probably the

01:01:33.900 --> 01:01:35.739
worst people I've ever met in my life. 100%.

01:01:35.739 --> 01:01:38.500
I see. I've seen some good people. I've seen

01:01:38.500 --> 01:01:41.400
people on both sides that have worn crosses.

01:01:41.500 --> 01:01:45.500
There's good people on both sides. Yes. But seriously,

01:01:45.699 --> 01:01:47.739
I've seen people on both sides, but these people

01:01:47.739 --> 01:01:54.300
are not great. So Exhibit, whose real name is

01:01:54.300 --> 01:01:57.679
JB. Oh, you ruined it. It's not X to the Z? It's

01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:03.559
JB. Okay. J is J -A -Y. B. It's not J .B. like

01:02:03.559 --> 01:02:07.860
initials, which disappointed me greatly. J .B.?

01:02:07.860 --> 01:02:14.519
J .B.? J .B. All right. So J .B. is like, okay,

01:02:14.619 --> 01:02:18.039
I need to get out of here because these guys

01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:20.699
are going to kill me. Right. And so he somehow

01:02:20.699 --> 01:02:24.179
gets the shotgun that the old man had, or like

01:02:24.179 --> 01:02:26.360
the father had. Right. And is holding it at the

01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:29.420
sheriff. Well, then the little girl shoots him.

01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:32.730
Oh. Wow. She's not going to heaven. She's not

01:02:32.730 --> 01:02:37.530
going to heaven. Yep, and comes out of nowhere.

01:02:37.789 --> 01:02:40.550
This is in Texas. No, this is in California.

01:02:40.989 --> 01:02:43.630
Oh, fuck. California? The whole time. It's just

01:02:43.630 --> 01:02:46.869
outside of LA is what it's supposed to be. Yeah,

01:02:46.869 --> 01:02:51.329
that sucks. You never know. You never know. So

01:02:51.329 --> 01:02:54.510
the sheriff and the little girl and Mary J. Blige

01:02:54.510 --> 01:02:58.449
are like, okay, we don't have a car. The bees

01:02:58.449 --> 01:03:00.449
are in the house. We need to get out of here.

01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:05.199
So they just decide to book it and run out. Mary

01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:09.219
J. Blige stops suddenly. The two girls are like

01:03:09.219 --> 01:03:11.219
stuck in the middle of the swarm, but they're

01:03:11.219 --> 01:03:13.920
not really stinging them. Right. And then all

01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:16.739
of a sudden, Mary J. Blige's eyes go dark and

01:03:16.739 --> 01:03:19.739
she just like opens her mouth and the bees come

01:03:19.739 --> 01:03:28.550
from her mouth. Whoa. End movie. that is how

01:03:28.550 --> 01:03:33.170
it ends yeah absolutely so wait um so when is

01:03:33.170 --> 01:03:36.809
the sequel uh never okay um and then that's it

01:03:36.809 --> 01:03:39.349
oh you that ends my line of questions you haven't

01:03:39.349 --> 01:03:41.170
even gotten to the best part what's the best

01:03:41.170 --> 01:03:43.570
part do you remember the girl that was gathering

01:03:43.570 --> 01:03:46.750
the sticks absolutely she she was not part of

01:03:46.750 --> 01:03:49.250
the movie at all okay but she comes back in the

01:03:49.250 --> 01:03:52.500
post -credit scene oh great and the sticks are

01:03:52.500 --> 01:03:55.699
crosses that she puts in the earth for her dead

01:03:55.699 --> 01:04:00.699
friends. Aww. Cute. Because religious movie.

01:04:01.019 --> 01:04:03.539
I love it. But why did Mary J. Blige have bees

01:04:03.539 --> 01:04:06.940
in her if she was religious? We don't know. I

01:04:06.940 --> 01:04:08.659
think she was... I thought her belief in God

01:04:08.659 --> 01:04:11.519
made her immune to the bees. Nope. No, no, maybe

01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:14.420
she's like a carrier of the apocalypse because

01:04:14.420 --> 01:04:20.449
she's so devout. I will say... the movie started

01:04:20.449 --> 01:04:25.010
with the revelations quote of the locusts like

01:04:25.010 --> 01:04:29.510
the locusts shall swarm and death and blah blah

01:04:29.510 --> 01:04:32.090
blah shall follow or something to that effect

01:04:32.090 --> 01:04:35.170
I don't remember exact words but there was a

01:04:35.170 --> 01:04:38.889
revelations quote before the title screen and

01:04:38.889 --> 01:04:44.170
yeah it's definitely a biblical film and not

01:04:44.170 --> 01:04:48.969
the I found a poster, and it says, Tsunami, the

01:04:48.969 --> 01:04:51.510
wrath cometh. So it does seem rather biblical.

01:04:51.730 --> 01:04:54.369
Yep. So I got your locust quote, if you want

01:04:54.369 --> 01:04:57.989
it. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke

01:04:57.989 --> 01:05:00.889
from the abyss, and out of the smoke, locusts

01:05:00.889 --> 01:05:03.389
came down upon the earth and were given power

01:05:03.389 --> 01:05:06.409
like that of scorpions of the earth. But not

01:05:06.409 --> 01:05:08.969
bees. That's fair. But not bees. Definitely not

01:05:08.969 --> 01:05:10.889
bees. Definitely not bees. Because they couldn't

01:05:10.889 --> 01:05:14.710
do a pun with locusts. Yep. That's exactly it.

01:05:15.389 --> 01:05:20.989
Tornade Locusts. Tornade Locusts. That's my problem

01:05:20.989 --> 01:05:23.710
with this film. The beginning of it actually

01:05:23.710 --> 01:05:26.909
could have been Darknado fun. It could have been

01:05:26.909 --> 01:05:30.329
a very different kind of movie. They spent 40

01:05:30.329 --> 01:05:32.690
minutes in a farmhouse talking about how religion

01:05:32.690 --> 01:05:36.590
is what saved them. I don't care if you're religious.

01:05:36.789 --> 01:05:40.349
I don't care if you talk about religion or anything

01:05:40.349 --> 01:05:44.320
like that. I don't care. Like, you can do that

01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:48.559
right. Yes. This was beat you over the head with

01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:51.579
the Bible. Like, it is just whacking you upside

01:05:51.579 --> 01:05:54.280
the face. Like, hey, power of Christ compels

01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:56.400
you. Pow, pow, pow. That's a plot twist I wasn't

01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:58.739
anticipating. Also, maybe I missed something.

01:05:58.820 --> 01:06:00.800
It also seems a bit hypocritical that they're

01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:02.659
trying to say that if you believe in God, ergo,

01:06:02.739 --> 01:06:05.559
you're a good person, except some people who

01:06:05.559 --> 01:06:08.829
believe in God do bad things. Yeah. Like, what

01:06:08.829 --> 01:06:11.150
about, like, religious zealots who do horrible

01:06:11.150 --> 01:06:13.389
things to God? Well, and that's what I think

01:06:13.389 --> 01:06:15.670
they were trying to establish, is that, like,

01:06:15.690 --> 01:06:18.510
the dad... So the dad runs with Jesse to the

01:06:18.510 --> 01:06:21.969
car, and the dad's like, I need to save my daughter

01:06:21.969 --> 01:06:25.030
because it's what's right. And so he gets, like,

01:06:25.050 --> 01:06:27.710
minorly stung in the back and ends up dying.

01:06:28.630 --> 01:06:33.110
Okay. And then, that was the issue, is JB then,

01:06:33.210 --> 01:06:36.110
like, free, shoots him in the face, because he's

01:06:36.110 --> 01:06:38.650
like... I'm not going to deal with a zombie.

01:06:40.389 --> 01:06:45.469
Yeah. Zombies. How big are these zombies? I'm

01:06:45.469 --> 01:06:48.670
sorry, the bees, are they like... Oh, okay, I've

01:06:48.670 --> 01:06:51.650
been envisioning like big ass... I mean, they're

01:06:51.650 --> 01:06:54.730
gigantic. They're huge. Like, big as a hand.

01:06:54.889 --> 01:06:56.590
Big as a hand, yeah. But they're not like as

01:06:56.590 --> 01:06:59.449
big as like a car. No, they're not as big as

01:06:59.449 --> 01:07:01.429
a car, but they're big. I mean, maybe a little

01:07:01.429 --> 01:07:03.469
bigger than your hand, but you know, it's like,

01:07:03.530 --> 01:07:06.570
they're still... Relatively, you can hit them

01:07:06.570 --> 01:07:08.949
with a tennis racket. But they come in swarms,

01:07:08.949 --> 01:07:10.769
I'm guessing? Yes, they come in swarms. They

01:07:10.769 --> 01:07:13.329
come in tsunamis. Yeah, they come in tsunamis.

01:07:13.550 --> 01:07:15.909
Apparently not tsunamis. They're wasps and there's

01:07:15.909 --> 01:07:19.329
no tsunamis. They come in strong gusts. They

01:07:19.329 --> 01:07:23.670
come in tornadoes. Wasp -tornadoes. Tornade wasps?

01:07:24.730 --> 01:07:27.309
Ant -Man and the Wasp? Let's just watch Ant -Man

01:07:27.309 --> 01:07:31.010
and the Wasp. Good question. I need to look up

01:07:31.010 --> 01:07:36.260
when this movie came out. I got it. 2015. There

01:07:36.260 --> 01:07:39.940
it is. And to Andre's point, the original title

01:07:39.940 --> 01:07:42.719
was Tsunami, The Wrath Cometh. That was the original

01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:47.300
title. That was a little too strong when they

01:07:47.300 --> 01:07:49.679
tested with audiences. I'm just making that part

01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:53.639
up. And they shortened it to Tsunami. Wow, 2015.

01:07:53.900 --> 01:07:58.579
Beautiful. Fantastic. The thing is, the CGI is

01:07:58.579 --> 01:08:01.400
horrible. But if, like, they just stuck with

01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:03.280
that the whole movie and it was just random people

01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:06.800
getting killed by bees in, like, the worst CGI

01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:09.280
imaginable, I could have survived with that.

01:08:09.380 --> 01:08:11.539
I could have had fun with that. Especially because

01:08:11.539 --> 01:08:15.539
of how much drinking I did, by the way. Well,

01:08:15.659 --> 01:08:17.319
I mean, it almost sounds like it had the potential

01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:20.100
to be, like, tremors. Yeah, yeah. Like, if they

01:08:20.100 --> 01:08:23.640
didn't show too much. Right, it could be stupid

01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:25.060
fun. And they had delightful characters. Yeah,

01:08:25.140 --> 01:08:27.520
stupid fun. Yeah, and like the scene where they

01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:29.659
almost drove off a cliff, yeah, it was stupid,

01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:31.520
but at the same time it was kind of fun to see

01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:33.220
how they were going to try to get out. Because

01:08:33.220 --> 01:08:36.079
it's a police car, so like the back is locked.

01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:38.739
And so like there was this whole scene of like,

01:08:38.859 --> 01:08:40.399
oh, are we going to get out of here, whatever.

01:08:40.779 --> 01:08:42.779
You know, the yellow bellies are stuck in the

01:08:42.779 --> 01:08:48.279
back. But yeah. Yeah. What are we rating this

01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:56.819
sucker? Stinger. Stinger. Stinger. Probably half

01:08:56.819 --> 01:09:02.439
a, um, I don't know, half a Bible. Half a Bible.

01:09:02.579 --> 01:09:05.600
Half a Bible of five. Wait, so is this the Mitchell

01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:08.579
Zero or is this legitimately a half? It's literally

01:09:08.579 --> 01:09:11.260
a half. Okay. It's better than Yoga Hoses because

01:09:11.260 --> 01:09:14.500
Yoga Hoses just set out to make me pissed off.

01:09:14.739 --> 01:09:18.699
That sounds like it. This movie could have been

01:09:18.699 --> 01:09:22.180
fun and, like, the bee scenes are fun. Yep. But

01:09:22.180 --> 01:09:24.819
it's just so much takes place in one location

01:09:24.819 --> 01:09:27.659
because cheap. And it's all done on shaky cam,

01:09:27.739 --> 01:09:31.020
too, that doesn't know how to focus. Thank you.

01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:33.180
And so, like, it would literally be, all right,

01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:34.760
I'm going to show you guys because you're virtual.

01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:38.199
This would be the camera angle. Ready? Oh, my

01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:42.380
God. We need to get out of here. There's bees

01:09:42.380 --> 01:09:47.659
coming. And it feels like they were trying for

01:09:47.659 --> 01:09:49.500
some Blair Witch like that where it's like, oh,

01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:51.359
it's just their face in the corner. But it's

01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:53.300
literally they're talking to somebody else. It's

01:09:53.300 --> 01:09:55.539
just a talking scene. And they're like, ooh,

01:09:55.920 --> 01:10:02.279
I'm only half in. You're welcome. This is fun

01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:04.100
to do that way because I can at least show you

01:10:04.100 --> 01:10:10.659
on a camera. Yeah, so there's some parts where

01:10:10.659 --> 01:10:12.460
they're literally like it's just cut off part

01:10:12.460 --> 01:10:16.880
of their face. Yeah. So, yeah, I guess half a

01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:21.619
Bible out of five. Just the Old Testament? Yeah.

01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:26.420
The Jewish Testament or the Christian Testament?

01:10:26.739 --> 01:10:31.060
I guess the Jewish Testament. Ooh, the Torah.

01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:34.819
God is a dick in that one. I recently discovered

01:10:34.819 --> 01:10:36.840
that God is not a dick in the New Testament.

01:10:36.939 --> 01:10:41.430
Who knew? I didn't expect this to go down this

01:10:41.430 --> 01:10:43.750
road, but yeah, you're right. I mean, and I made

01:10:43.750 --> 01:10:45.569
two memes for this movie that I'm going to share

01:10:45.569 --> 01:10:47.130
with you guys after. I just wanted to explain

01:10:47.130 --> 01:10:49.890
it to you guys first. This has to be going on

01:10:49.890 --> 01:10:51.630
the Instagram account. Yes. Oh, it's totally

01:10:51.630 --> 01:10:52.810
going on the Instagram account. I can't wait

01:10:52.810 --> 01:10:55.409
to see it. Yes. Don't forget to like and follow.

01:10:55.670 --> 01:10:57.770
Yes, don't forget to like, share, subscribe,

01:10:58.210 --> 01:11:01.609
everything. Smash that subscribe button. Smash

01:11:01.609 --> 01:11:05.729
that subscribe button. Yeah, I mean, tsunamis,

01:11:05.770 --> 01:11:13.329
it's a thing that exists. It's on Prime. I highly

01:11:13.329 --> 01:11:18.390
recommend you don't watch it. And, like, I was

01:11:18.390 --> 01:11:20.250
waiting for the beginning of the movie because

01:11:20.250 --> 01:11:21.890
I knew there was going to be, like, a cheesy

01:11:21.890 --> 01:11:25.149
title scene, a title screen there. Yeah. And

01:11:25.149 --> 01:11:29.529
I was not disappointed. It was very much tsunamis

01:11:29.529 --> 01:11:33.170
and, like, yellow on a black screen. Like, yeah,

01:11:33.210 --> 01:11:35.840
it's... It's on the nose. Oh, I get it. Yeah,

01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:38.859
it's on the nose. It needed to be a crossover

01:11:38.859 --> 01:11:41.079
with Bumblebee from Transformers to make her.

01:11:41.340 --> 01:11:43.899
That's kind of cool. Yeah. I'm in on this idea.

01:11:44.180 --> 01:11:46.260
Let's pitch it to Michael Bay and we'll see if

01:11:46.260 --> 01:11:48.760
he'll produce. He's not doing anything these

01:11:48.760 --> 01:11:51.279
days, right? Yeah, he's just kind of around.

01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:54.939
I think he's doing like Netflix movies now. Like,

01:11:54.939 --> 01:11:56.880
on the real. I think that's what he's been doing

01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:58.439
lately. Six Underground was him. That was him,

01:11:58.520 --> 01:12:00.199
yeah. That's right. Six Underground. I haven't

01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:03.079
seen that. It's, um, yeah, Six Underground's

01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:06.989
fine. Well, I mean, normally we get to this part

01:12:06.989 --> 01:12:08.689
and we talk about what we're excited to see next,

01:12:08.829 --> 01:12:11.149
but we still don't know when we're going to see

01:12:11.149 --> 01:12:14.369
movies in theaters. There is some exciting movie

01:12:14.369 --> 01:12:17.010
news that came out of late. There is? Yeah, we

01:12:17.010 --> 01:12:18.989
all talked about it. Jill, do you want to tee

01:12:18.989 --> 01:12:22.350
us up? Yeah. Yeah, it was recently announced

01:12:22.350 --> 01:12:25.770
that HBO Max is going to be releasing Wonder

01:12:25.770 --> 01:12:30.489
Woman 1984 on its platform. Wait, what? Christmas

01:12:30.489 --> 01:12:35.199
Day. On Christmas? I was getting there. On Christmas

01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:37.300
Day, HBO Max is going to be releasing Wonder

01:12:37.300 --> 01:12:40.840
Woman 1984 for the masses, free of charge, unless

01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:44.659
you don't subscribe already. It's a Christmas

01:12:44.659 --> 01:12:48.579
miracle. Our group of friends had recently talked

01:12:48.579 --> 01:12:51.880
about the streaming wars and all of that, and

01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:56.520
how can you kind of stand out to make a name

01:12:56.520 --> 01:12:59.140
for yourself? I mean, for HBO Max, this is a

01:12:59.140 --> 01:13:02.119
great move. We're swinging for the fences. And

01:13:02.119 --> 01:13:04.250
you know what's next. You know what's next, don't

01:13:04.250 --> 01:13:07.970
you? What? What's next? Well, if WandaVision

01:13:07.970 --> 01:13:09.949
does well, Disney Plus is going to release Black

01:13:09.949 --> 01:13:12.350
Widow on Plus. I'd be interested to see if they

01:13:12.350 --> 01:13:14.510
do that. And I think, honestly, it's more if

01:13:14.510 --> 01:13:16.949
Wonder Woman does well. Because for them, it

01:13:16.949 --> 01:13:20.270
comes down to, and this is my only critique of

01:13:20.270 --> 01:13:22.699
this, as a fan, I love it. As someone who's really

01:13:22.699 --> 01:13:25.020
interested on the business side of things, these

01:13:25.020 --> 01:13:28.340
movies were meant and marketed to be sold in

01:13:28.340 --> 01:13:30.619
movie theaters. And they make a ton of money

01:13:30.619 --> 01:13:33.659
if they hit. With the streaming service, you're

01:13:33.659 --> 01:13:37.619
selling this subscription for $20 a month. And

01:13:37.619 --> 01:13:39.859
that could cover four people, you know, the size

01:13:39.859 --> 01:13:42.279
of a family to watch this movie. And if that's

01:13:42.279 --> 01:13:43.939
the only thing that they're interested in, and

01:13:43.939 --> 01:13:46.319
HBO Max is one of my favorite streaming services.

01:13:46.539 --> 01:13:48.619
It's pretty great, yeah. They have a great library

01:13:48.619 --> 01:13:51.380
of content. Studio Ghibli films are on there.

01:13:51.500 --> 01:13:53.340
And then you've got the Turner Classic Movies

01:13:53.340 --> 01:13:55.680
collection, including Citizen Kane. Hashtag Dream

01:13:55.680 --> 01:13:58.279
Patrol. All that stuff is there, and it's great.

01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:02.439
But if you can't retain those subscribers after

01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:05.539
this movie comes out, what was it all for? So

01:14:05.539 --> 01:14:08.119
I think I'm really curious to see if movies are

01:14:08.119 --> 01:14:10.039
actually going to make as big of an impact on

01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:13.119
streaming services as much as TV shows, where

01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:16.000
you have to stay for longer than one month because

01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:19.359
they come out episodically. curious to see how

01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:22.319
that pans out, but yes, as a fan, I'm so excited

01:14:22.319 --> 01:14:25.000
to watch this in and around Christmas. That's

01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:29.699
really cool. I just would wish that, and this

01:14:29.699 --> 01:14:35.199
is an HBO Go specific problem. HBO Max. HBO Go

01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:39.880
is dead. HBO Go is dead. Killed it. I would hope

01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:44.539
that HBO Max would provide some HDR 4 support.

01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:47.039
I'm kind of shocked that they're, I mean, not

01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:49.829
shocked, but The biggest bummer about Wonder

01:14:49.829 --> 01:14:52.250
Woman being on HBO Max is that there's no way

01:14:52.250 --> 01:14:55.829
to watch it in 4K. If you want as close to movie

01:14:55.829 --> 01:14:59.050
theater quality experience as possible, I would

01:14:59.050 --> 01:15:01.590
hope that they would support 4K. Okay, you made

01:15:01.590 --> 01:15:03.970
that comment. I was going to say up nerd, but

01:15:03.970 --> 01:15:09.350
you made that comment. Yes, trying to match the

01:15:09.350 --> 01:15:16.560
theater experience. I get that. 4K is still very

01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:19.359
much a niche thing, but all these directors go

01:15:19.359 --> 01:15:22.239
on and on and on about how you can't substitute

01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:26.180
a movie theater for watching it at home, and

01:15:26.180 --> 01:15:29.260
I feel like 4K HDR would bridge that gap a little

01:15:29.260 --> 01:15:34.020
bit more. Even offering it as an extra tier or

01:15:34.020 --> 01:15:37.680
whatever. You would pay extra for... I would

01:15:37.680 --> 01:15:41.220
pay probably $5 extra for 4K HDR viewing experience.

01:15:42.939 --> 01:15:46.399
Not to shit on Disney too much, but if, you know,

01:15:46.420 --> 01:15:48.699
Mulan, which they released on their platform

01:15:48.699 --> 01:15:52.579
for an additional $29 .99, I believe, so you

01:15:52.579 --> 01:15:54.279
had to buy Disney Plus if you did not have it,

01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:55.539
and then you had to pay an additional purchase.

01:15:55.979 --> 01:15:59.380
If maybe they had sold the film with an additional

01:15:59.380 --> 01:16:02.720
$5 to $10 up for film quality, that would justify

01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:05.720
the move. I think HBO is being very clever that

01:16:05.720 --> 01:16:07.720
they're not trying to put a premium price tag

01:16:07.720 --> 01:16:10.100
on Wonder Woman, unless that announcement...

01:16:12.090 --> 01:16:17.090
I think they learned from Disney. They get the

01:16:17.090 --> 01:16:19.449
benefit of coming second. You know, like the

01:16:19.449 --> 01:16:22.750
second cat gets the mouse kind of deal. Second

01:16:22.750 --> 01:16:26.670
mouse gets the cheese. That's it. Whatever the

01:16:26.670 --> 01:16:30.229
metaphor is there. Andre, do we know if any streaming

01:16:30.229 --> 01:16:34.109
services provide 4K quality? Does Netflix even

01:16:34.109 --> 01:16:43.340
do that? Right, I believe Netflix offers some

01:16:43.340 --> 01:16:46.239
sort of a handful of their shows to support.

01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:51.779
Chuck, any David Attenborough? Yeah, okay, cool,

01:16:51.859 --> 01:16:55.359
yes. So it's a show -by -show basis, and you

01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:57.399
also have to pay a premium tier for Netflix,

01:16:57.520 --> 01:16:59.199
I believe, to even have access to those shows

01:16:59.199 --> 01:17:04.180
in 4K. Is that true, or is that what you're saying?

01:17:05.180 --> 01:17:07.819
There's a whole list of 4K. So I didn't make

01:17:07.819 --> 01:17:11.449
this up. I remember specifically they put out

01:17:11.449 --> 01:17:13.810
a David Attenborough series as an advertisement.

01:17:13.810 --> 01:17:16.789
Like, hey, you bought your new 4K TV? Watch this

01:17:16.789 --> 01:17:19.430
David Attenborough nature documentary. Super

01:17:19.430 --> 01:17:23.289
crisp, awesome, fuck you quality, you know? Is

01:17:23.289 --> 01:17:24.609
that what we're calling it? Fuck you quality?

01:17:25.409 --> 01:17:27.770
Yes. That's amazing. That's what they said in

01:17:27.770 --> 01:17:29.350
the commercial. They got David Attenborough to

01:17:29.350 --> 01:17:31.630
say that. Super awesome, fuck you quality. Here

01:17:31.630 --> 01:17:35.850
we see. Fuck you quality. I love it. Some other

01:17:35.850 --> 01:17:41.819
cinematic news that's super exciting. Jesus Christ.

01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:44.439
I'm not going to look forward to that. I really

01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:46.199
am not. I'm going to watch it, but I'm just not

01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:48.180
looking forward to it. I'm not paying to watch

01:17:48.180 --> 01:17:50.560
it, so... If you guys want to watch the Snyder

01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:52.479
Cut of Justice League Early, there's this movie

01:17:52.479 --> 01:17:56.020
called Sucker Punch. Yeah, exactly. Where is

01:17:56.020 --> 01:18:00.000
that game released? HBO Max. HBO Max? Okay. I

01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:02.140
guess I don't pay for it already. What I've been

01:18:02.140 --> 01:18:04.319
hearing, and this is just like the trades talking

01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:07.399
about behind the scenes stuff. So they had originally

01:18:07.399 --> 01:18:09.880
thought when the executives came up with, oh,

01:18:09.920 --> 01:18:11.659
you know, the Snyder Cut thing, it's huge on

01:18:11.659 --> 01:18:13.720
Twitter and Instagram. Let's actually give the

01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:16.060
people what they want. So when they approached

01:18:16.060 --> 01:18:18.180
Zack Snyder with it, he says, cool, let's do

01:18:18.180 --> 01:18:20.880
it. Because, of course, the Snyder Cut didn't

01:18:20.880 --> 01:18:23.039
actually exist. So he's like, I'm going to go

01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:25.340
back and I'm going to make it my own movie. And

01:18:25.340 --> 01:18:27.930
they're like, great. And then they started to

01:18:27.930 --> 01:18:30.770
realize as the process has gone on, not only

01:18:30.770 --> 01:18:33.369
is he taking things that he liked from the original

01:18:33.369 --> 01:18:35.850
cut and, you know, sprucing them up a little

01:18:35.850 --> 01:18:39.409
bit, he's adding entirely different scenes and

01:18:39.409 --> 01:18:42.909
essentially they're funding a new movie. So they're

01:18:42.909 --> 01:18:44.810
seeing much more money than they had originally

01:18:44.810 --> 01:18:47.890
thought. It's a terrible idea to listen to the

01:18:47.890 --> 01:18:50.170
crowd about this one. And I mean, like, yeah,

01:18:50.250 --> 01:18:52.829
it's worked before with Sonic, but like for this.

01:18:53.260 --> 01:18:55.939
I'm curious. I think it's still going to be bad,

01:18:56.100 --> 01:18:58.699
but if it could actually retain a big audience

01:18:58.699 --> 01:19:00.760
for more than a month... You know what I think?

01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:03.039
I think it's going to be worse than what we got.

01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:05.640
No, I don't think it'll be worse. I don't know.

01:19:05.720 --> 01:19:07.939
I didn't realize that... So what I thought was

01:19:07.939 --> 01:19:11.479
that they had some unfinished footage and they

01:19:11.479 --> 01:19:13.600
were giving him money to polish those up. I didn't

01:19:13.600 --> 01:19:17.060
realize that he went in with scissors and was

01:19:17.060 --> 01:19:19.970
like, I'm going to take these things and... create

01:19:19.970 --> 01:19:23.069
the story I would have done along with adding

01:19:23.069 --> 01:19:25.810
new content. I thought it was just, here's money

01:19:25.810 --> 01:19:28.750
to polish up what you had on the cutting room

01:19:28.750 --> 01:19:32.489
floor. Yeah, that was the intent. And then apparently

01:19:32.489 --> 01:19:35.449
Zack Snyder has taken that as leverage to make

01:19:35.449 --> 01:19:39.010
new stuff. And I think, honestly, probably HBO

01:19:39.010 --> 01:19:41.949
is in on the joke, or maybe not the joke, but

01:19:41.949 --> 01:19:44.029
they're in on this because this potentially could

01:19:44.029 --> 01:19:48.329
help better set up more DC sequels. That's what

01:19:48.329 --> 01:19:52.060
I'm assuming. Right. I mean, like, I think the

01:19:52.060 --> 01:19:53.840
best news out of this so far that I've heard

01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:55.380
is the fact that it's coming out as a miniseries.

01:19:55.500 --> 01:19:57.619
Because, like, as soon as it started, I'm like,

01:19:57.699 --> 01:19:58.899
oh, man, this is going to be three and a half

01:19:58.899 --> 01:20:00.979
hours. It's going to be long to watch through.

01:20:01.279 --> 01:20:04.180
But now it's four, but in four distinct episodes.

01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:05.880
I feel like that's going to be way more easy

01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:08.800
to digest. And, like Mitchell said, maybe I'm

01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:10.260
in on the joke, too, because I still plan on

01:20:10.260 --> 01:20:11.920
it. I'm shitting on it already without having

01:20:11.920 --> 01:20:13.560
seen it, but I'm going to probably watch it.

01:20:13.619 --> 01:20:15.279
I'm going to, yeah. I'm probably going to watch

01:20:15.279 --> 01:20:17.140
it, and I am not looking forward to it. As someone

01:20:17.140 --> 01:20:19.770
who is... Yeah. I went with a friend and paid

01:20:19.770 --> 01:20:21.689
money to see the original. Excuse me, the original

01:20:21.689 --> 01:20:23.770
Justice League. Yeah, and I'm going to watch

01:20:23.770 --> 01:20:27.250
it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not happy about that. It

01:20:27.250 --> 01:20:30.590
was you and me and T -Dog, right? Yeah. I was

01:20:30.590 --> 01:20:32.710
not there, no. Me, Andre, and T -Dog went, and

01:20:32.710 --> 01:20:35.010
then we went to Plan B afterwards. That's right.

01:20:35.090 --> 01:20:38.180
And honestly, like, after first watch... And

01:20:38.180 --> 01:20:40.579
I think I was in shock because, one, the viewing

01:20:40.579 --> 01:20:43.079
experience was bad for us. Like, the theater

01:20:43.079 --> 01:20:45.300
was awful. The way that it was projecting on

01:20:45.300 --> 01:20:48.300
the screen was bad. Shout out to Bowtie. Bowtie!

01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:52.159
I was going to say, it's got to be Bowtie. Bowtie,

01:20:52.180 --> 01:20:54.520
I hope you do not survive the pandemic. I'm sorry.

01:20:55.119 --> 01:20:58.279
So, yeah, it's rough. I'll sign their death certificate.

01:20:59.540 --> 01:21:02.920
So the actual viewing experience is bad. I came

01:21:02.920 --> 01:21:04.779
to it, and I remember thinking to myself, well,

01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:08.340
that wasn't as bad as Dawn of Justice. And upon

01:21:08.340 --> 01:21:10.300
reflection, I'm like, well, that may have been

01:21:10.300 --> 01:21:13.720
worse. No, definitely. I was in agreement, because

01:21:13.720 --> 01:21:16.279
I think I turned to you with a straight face

01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:18.560
and said, I would watch a sequel of that, probably.

01:21:19.619 --> 01:21:23.180
With hopes that it would be better, but I would

01:21:23.180 --> 01:21:25.880
watch a sequel. And on reflection, I'm like,

01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:28.279
wow, that was a train wreck of a movie. Holy

01:21:28.279 --> 01:21:32.810
moly. I need to digest it a little bit. Okay,

01:21:32.850 --> 01:21:36.569
guys. We have overstayed our welcome in the lovely

01:21:36.569 --> 01:21:41.170
ears of our listeners. All six of them. And me.

01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:46.479
We have overstayed our welcome. We're going to

01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:49.680
wrap this one up, but thank you guys very much.

01:21:49.779 --> 01:21:51.939
I'm glad we could get back and do this, even

01:21:51.939 --> 01:21:54.159
virtually. This was fun. We're looking forward

01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:56.819
to new episodes in the future, including maybe

01:21:56.819 --> 01:22:01.640
a holiday -themed one. Absolutely. There's your

01:22:01.640 --> 01:22:04.079
teaser for next time. Yeah, pour yourself some

01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:09.939
hot cocoa and sit back and relax. So, for myself,

01:22:10.239 --> 01:22:13.500
Jill and Andre, and Mitchell, This was Game for

01:22:13.500 --> 01:22:16.020
a Movie where we ask, are you game for a movie?

01:22:16.840 --> 01:22:17.659
Where's T -Dog?