you know what that sound means it's another episode
of game for a movie where we ask are you game
for a movie i'm mike i will be your host i am
joined by andre and jill yeah welcome to the
show hey guys great to see you great to see you
too yeah um we have an episode that is filled
with movies that we've seen in theaters which
is strange because before we started recording
uh what did you guys admit Last week, we watched
two movies in a row, and that was the first time
we had been in a theater since Christmas. That's
nuts to me. And I've seen three movies in the
past two weeks. Honestly, my excuse is that this
year has been a banger year for video games so
far. That is very true. Our entire media is just...
And also there hasn't really been a film that
I've been keeping an eye on where I'm like, yeah,
when that hits the theater, I have to be there.
Like last year, 2022, that's how it was for everything
everywhere, everywhere all at once. I saw a trailer
for it at the end of 2021. It's like, I need
to see that movie. And then March, April, whenever
it came out in theaters initially, we went and
saw it. I think it was March, but yeah, yeah.
It was March. I think so. Yeah, I'm looking it
up right now. And I mean, look at it now. yeah
right yeah april 8th 2022 okay yeah and what
i was thinking it's funny we talk about this
because i was thinking this earlier today um
some of the trailers i saw before the movie that
i'm going to talk about because i saw the movie
today are movies that i'm just kind of like oh
yeah that seems okay i would see that but with
a list i feel like i go to those movies and so
i was trying to figure out each month what was
the movie That got me excited to go. Because
I feel like I've at least gone to one. Every
month. And I don't know. It's weird. Because
this year. There's been nothing that I've been.
Oh I really need to see those movies. But I've
gone to movies. You know what I mean? I'm trying
to think. You were super pumped about Scream
6. I was super pumped about Scream 6. That's
true. And I still am. excited that i saw that
um no matter what happens about it what happens
about it well yeah i guess i guess that's what
i meant um because i think that it's middle of
the road and i think what bothered me most about
it was the end reveal of the bad guys so i think
that's that's why i would say whatever happens
with it. But it did well in the box office, though,
right? It did well in the box office. There will
probably be another... There are six of them,
so what's the highest of the high and the lowest
of the lows for the Scream series? The highest
is definitely Scream 1 still. There's no question
in my mind. It is a great movie. I haven't rewatched
it in a long time, but... Even Claire was willing
to watch that. Yeah. The meta -ness of it is
still just so... Right. Right there. So yeah,
I saw Scream in February, and I saw John Wick
Chapter 4 in March, or maybe not March, but the
beginning of April. And then this movie that
I saw today. So it's interesting, because it's
just, I feel like I've gone to a lot more movies,
and even watching the trailers, I'm like, oh
yeah, just because I have this A -list, I'll
go see it. You know? I don't know. It's strange.
But... We need to talk into what we're drinking.
That's what we need to do first. So Andre, you
kick us off. Cool. Well, I got with me. I think
this is like the fourth or fifth time it's appeared
on this show. Dogs and boats from beard. I saw
the can and I thought it was dogs and boats and
I was so excited. Yeah. You know, hey, it's yeah.
Double IPA with citron mosaic. It's it's reliable.
It's tasty. It's good. It's fantastic. And kittens
and canoes is pretty great, too. but uh andre
would not advise eating a creamsicle ice cream
pop before having dogs no yeah that was that
was an unfortunate mistake i was offered a creamsicle
and it was good the creamsicle was fine and then
i had a sip of dogs and boats and it's just like
well i think any ipa after having like a sweet
treat like that it's like oh my god this is like
fucking bitter as hell yeah like yeah like the
orange and the yeah yeah orange and ipa does
not mix for me no it does not yeah yeah i'm I'm
reinforced in my personal tastes that I do not
like creamsicles. Ooh, okay. I don't think they
taste good. I'm a chocolate ice cream. Yeah,
well, you're chocolate icy. I feel like with
dessert items, you never bother. Wait, did you
say chocolate icy? Everything, right? I said
icy. You said chocolate icy. What is a chocolate
icy? The creamsicle thing that you had last night,
was that actually ice cream or was that just
like an ice bar? It was like an ice cream thing.
You're talking about a fudgesicle? So that's
a chocolate icy. What the fuck? Chocolate icy.
I think of the blue raspberry thing. Yeah, exactly.
Like, oh, would you want, like, if we go to a
movie theater, do you want blue icy, red icy,
coke icy, or chocolate icy? Is a fudgesicle ice
cream? I think fudgesicle is a dairy -based product.
That's not answering the question. I don't know,
man. Fudgesicle. I really want to know this now.
Yeah. Chocolate and cream. Chocolate and cream.
Yeah. So I will call that an ice cream. Yeah,
that's an ice cream. That's cold. Yeah, I would
have guessed it was ice cream, but like an ice
cream. There's dairy in there, you know. There's
definitely like chocolate flavored icies out
there. I'm sure there is. And the people who
drink those are perverts, but. They don't drink
them. The coloring on that just seems all wrong.
Like it seems like a poop. Well, okay, but to
be fair, you can get a Coke Icy, which would
also be the same color as a chocolate Icy. Let's
be real. I guess that's true. I do like Coke
Icys, too, so I can't really say. It sounds like
it would be like Pop Rocks. Have you ever had
a Coke float? No, I don't like Coca -Cola. Oh,
man. Coke floats are great. It's like a root
beer float, but Coke. I'm an equal opportunist
in my dislike of soda. That's fair. I've never
had a root beer. I've never had a root beer.
Not a legitimate one. Like the sucky candy you
can get from the dentist or the doctor. Or the
lollipop, the dum -dum. That's nasty. So we're
going to have to go on a root beer journey. No,
we really don't. Yeah, we'll figure it out. That's
a great tangent. Okay, Jill, what are you drinking?
It's not root beer, apparently. Not root beer.
Or a chocolate Icy. I am drinking from Bigelow,
the tea maker, Sweet Dreams herbal tea. I was
like, I've never heard of that brewery, but that's
just drinking an alcoholic. Bigelow beer. I mean,
I could see them branching off. Literally, there
was like a collab with Bigelow and I think fucking
Stony Creek. Stony Creek does collabs with Bigelow
tea. Yeah, like I think there could be a tea
like. Yeah, there's a Bigelow Brewing that's
in Maine. Oh, so it's not probably the same as
the tea maker. No, I just found the Stony Creek
and Bigelow. But Bigelow Brewing Beer is its
own beer company. American half of ice and with
Bigelow Earl Grey tea. That sounds lovely. Carpe
diem. That doesn't sound bad at all. The main
Bigelow Brewing, the outside looks like Fox Farms
in Connecticut. A little barn. What are you drinking,
Mike? I've got a beer from Sycamore Brewing.
It is called Slurricane. Slurricane. It is a
tropical IPA. Sounds like it's going to get us
canceled. It's cute. It looks like Lumpy Space
Princess. Yeah, it does look like Lumpy Space
Princess. Lumpy Space Princess drinking a hurricane.
It's very... tropical flavors and stuff like
that. I had to make sure no coconut, but it's
pretty good actually. I've had two sips and I'd
have more. So I have a four pack of this. I got
it today. Sycamore, is that in Charlotte? Nice.
I'm sorry. I actually don't know where it is.
It's definitely in North Carolina. Okay. Yeah,
in Charlotte. I thought it was, but I just didn't
know for sure. I didn't want to guess. But I
have that and then Noda Brewing as well. is in
charlotte that i have that upstairs as well that's
their hop drop and roll but yeah hop drop and
roll i've had before i like that this slur cane
is actually pretty good they were having a deal
on it so i was like yeah i'll try it why not
yeah yeah so going back briefly to the bigelow
tea and standing beer collab they had a second
one that was infused with their earl grey tea
wait wait that was the one the half of ison or
the there's the constant comment no So no comment
has constant comment. And then there's the half
a bison. With the Earl Grey. I want to try that
half a bison with that Earl Grey. Sounds nice.
I'd be a fan of that. They're both Connecticut
based. Connecticut. I gotta say, I'm not upset
that I don't live in Connecticut anymore. I'm
upset I don't see you guys as regularly. I'm
upset. We're the last nutmeggers standing now.
You are the last nutmeggers standing. Last one,
you've got to carry the torch. I guess so, man.
We've covered what we're drinking. We need to
talk about these movies that we saw in theaters.
Yeah! Andre, you are getting us started, even
though both you and Jill obviously are going
to be jumping in. So, Andre, you get to present
first. What movie are you talking about? So we
went and watched their D &D movie that they went
and made, huh? Oh, the D &D movie. Yeah! Dungeons
and Dragons, Honor Among Thieves. Could not think
of a more generic title possible for this film.
Yeah, it's a bad title. It's not great. However,
the same can't be said for the actual movie.
Yeah. No, the movie's got some charm to it. So,
all right. Did you see the trailers for this
movie? I saw the trailers for this movie, and
it looks like fun. It was fun. As it turns out,
hey, it was pretty fun. Entirely disposable.
I'm struggling to remember the plot points right
now as we speak. That being said, I liked the
characters. I think it took itself just the right
amount of seriously. You know what I mean? And
yeah, it was a good time. I'd watch more of this
stuff. I think they knew exactly the kind of
movie they wanted to make. And they used the...
not only the ip but the very concept of dungeons
and dragons pretty well yeah i would say because
so much of the humor is like you know well we
we played dnd right so like so much of the humor
it kind of is it relies on the concept of like
all of the like like people playing this this
tabletop game with all these arbitrary rules
you know i think they like i'm ready to get it
started again by the way yeah Yeah. Are you ready
to be the DM? We need you to DM it up, buddy.
I'm ready to DM, but I'm a little nervous. I'm
not going to lie. Don't be nervous. Did you see
the guy from Dimension 20? I think this came
out recently. Their DM from Dimension 20 was
saying how he had like a throwaway line that
completely changed one of their entire storylines.
Oh, wow. Geez. I mean, that takes skill to be
able to just be like, all right, well. I don't
mean to derail, but I thought this was pretty
good. This is part of it. So the start of their
game took place at a wedding that they were all
at. It was a dwarf wedding. And basically, this
one guy just rolls an insight check or something
like that and gets a pretty high score. And it's
just like, how are you feeling about the wedding,
bride -to -be? And she's like, you know, I'm
kind of nervous about it. I don't know how I
feel about it and everything like that. So they
kidnapped the bride -to -be. because they're
like, we're going to save you from this wedding.
And that changed the entire storyline. So they
just pivoted. That's cool. No, I mean, that's
a sign of a good DM that you can just kind of
pivot like that, you know, like they totally
just run away with as well. This FPC that you
didn't have plans for them, but I guess you just
got to roll with it, right? It just became part
of it. And so that's the kind of, I am doing
my studying. I am, I am like watching other DMs.
I'm trying to, I'm making sure that this is going
to be fun and that I can actually do this. Sure,
yeah, but don't put too much pressure on yourself,
man. Like, we're all going to have a good time,
you know? Oh, yeah. It's not like, you know,
we like hanging out with you, so just playing
D &D is just an excuse to hang out, really, is
how I feel about it, right? Yeah, we don't need
excuses to hang out. There's no excuse needed.
Tell me, we'll hang out. Hell yeah. Go for it.
Oh, no, I was going to say it because it just
made me think of it. So I was looking at reviews
of this Honor Among Thieves. Yeah. Did they change
the title for... the like british crowd so honor
had the u in it oh i wonder why not look at the
poster yeah right because uh the wikipedia page
has it without the u but like i mean if it's
appearing internationally i don't see why changing
the first imdb review that i saw had the u in
it and so i was wondering just okay cool yeah
like i don't know and maybe they didn't maybe
that reviewer is just from the uk right anyways
anyway sorry this movie oh yeah no no worries
uh let's see star -studded cast uh you know it's
got chris pine shawn reyes uh okay this is your
first time seeing mr bridgeton yeah john page
Yeah, I think if it was all French, it's Regé
-Jean Page. Yeah, and Hugh Grant is just the
absolute smarmiest rogue asshole ever. Exactly
what you want from Hugh Grant. Exactly. Everybody
knows their role, and everybody is playing it
exactly how you'd expect it to. You can tell
that they're all into it, right? It's not like
Chris Pine's just collecting a paycheck, but
he's into it. He's doing his best. he's a good
lady they struck a good balance with tongue in
cheek and then overacting and whatnot yeah so
and you can totally like it was so easy for me
to just watch this movie and be like oh like
this character oh she just she just uh totally
botched or she just totally got her insight check
and was able or perception check was able to
see through this character's uh ruse oh man that
guy totally whiffed on his uh dexterity saving
throw well he just ate it you know i mean like
it's so easy to just apply that kind of logic
um oh my god i'm just trying to think like in
the very i guess In the very opening scene, it's
Chris Pine as Edgin the Bard and Michelle Rodriguez
as Olga the Barbarian. And they're both captured.
They're prisoners in this ice prison in the middle
of nowhere, right? And they're trying to figure
out how to plot their escape. The whole setup
is that they're pleading their case towards the
council that only come every two years. And so
they're chatting about it being like, as long
as... um, Jonathan shows up, we'll be good. Like,
as long as Jonathan shows up, we'll be able to
figure this out. And it was kind of led to imply
like, oh, like, um, Edgar and Chris Pine's character
has an in with Jonathan. Like, he knows Jonathan
well. He's going to be able to plead his security.
He's going to talk his way through it, right?
Because he's got the charisma. Like, okay, cool.
Talk his way out of it. And so they get brought
before the council. Jonathan's not there. and
he's like oh like like all right please your
case is like oh i really want jonathan to be
here and they're like no you're gonna just play
your case now we'll we'll we'll decide where
to yeah he's stuck in a storm for your sentence
or not yeah so that's how and then and then that's
where they go into like he's like all right fine
then he does the exposition of his whole backstory
but it's fine like in you'd be like in any other
movie be like oh jesus a little really ham -fisted
way to learn about you know edgan's backstory
but In a D &D campaign, that's literally how
you get it done, right? Yeah, right. It feels
natural because it's unnatural, if that makes
sense, right? It's an interesting way of putting
it, but yeah. I mean, that sounds like the most
bullshit excuse possible. They handle it really
well. And then this all kind of culminates, and
it's kind of a generic backstory, whatever. I'm
not going to go into the details here. But it
all kind of culminates, and Jarnathan finally
shows up. And Jarnathan is, what's the race?
He looks like a Griffith. Yeah, he's like a bird
person. I forget the actual term. Bird person.
Phoenix person. Could have been a rock. No, he
wasn't a rock. There's another term for it. A
orca. A orca? Arakokra. Arakokra. Arakokra. Wasn't
Nick an Arakoka? Yes, he was. And he bullshitted
through all my combat encounters because he was
like, all right, I just fly 15 feet in the air.
And I'm like, well, fuck you. Anyway, so Jonathan,
the Arakoka shows up and then like, you know.
uh, Edgar is just like, Oh, it's so good to see
you. It's so great to see you. And then like,
he's like, I have no idea who this person is
at all or whatever. And then immediately he just
tackles him and they fly. They're in this giant,
um, keep up like, wait, like 50, 50 floors up
in the air. And he tackles him and they jump
through a giant glass window, basically forces
the Jonathan to be like, well, I guess I have
to fly or else I'm going to die. Both Olga, Holga
and, and Edgar. Right. And it's just like, you
could totally imagine. Imagine just players at
a table being like, I'm just going to tackle
the guy and make him fly away, you know? Oh,
19. Okay, cool. You can do it. Right, and you
can just imagine the DM is like, you can try.
And then they're like, all right, I just rolled
a nat 20. He's like, all right, I guess this
fucking works then. And, you know, there's so
many moments. And then you're snorting skeleton
cocaine, you know? Exactly, right? You're snorting
skeleton cocaine. And, yeah. And so there's so
many moments in this movie that, like, just hit
for me like that, right? Where it's just like,
wow, like, this is so... delightfully stupid
but in a really fun cheeky way right delightfully
stupid yeah it's a good way to sum it up Yeah,
so, like, there's – that's the only bit I'm going
to spoil because it's, like, the first five minutes
of the movie. But, like, there's tons of moments
like that, right? Okay, yeah. And in this movie,
the script is – it's pretty generic. Like, nothing's
going to be shocking about the plot twists, the
beats that hits. But, like, it gets – it has
it where it counts in that, you know, quickly
– It's not about the storyline. It's about the
friends along the way. Well, yeah. Yeah, you
know, like, you know, quickly a party. kind of
forms around edgan the whole juxtaposition is
that his daughter is is not is living with um
hugh grant's character who's become a surrogate
father while he's imprisoned and twisted her
against him and so the whole entire emotional
crux is that he that they're trying to all basically
form a heist around stealing uh hugh grant's
uh treasure he's become the lord of this this
this uh what would you call it a town it's bigger
than a town it's not quite a city it's like it's
a kingdom right he's a lord basically he becomes
himself he's he's an asshole rogue that becomes
this lord of this town and the province whatever
yeah and they're all just trying to get they've
all been wronged by hugh grant they're all trying
to get a one -up on him so okay you know quickly
this party forms together and not all the jokes
land not all the interactions are great but enough
dude that it carries you through the movie and
the action is just engaging enough where you're
like yeah alright cool I'm not ever super bored
the practical so Jonathan he was all practical
well most of him was like it was a dude in a
bird suit so I appreciated that it wasn't just
a CGI dude you know so they had like and they
showed like a trailer showing off their practical
effects I feel like they should have leaned into
that a little bit more because they, like, it
is kind of impressive sometimes. They could have
Jim Henson creature shopped some things. Yeah.
I looked at, I'm on the, not the IMDb, I'm on
the Wikipedia page and I don't see anything in
production about making those things. Okay. So
I'm guessing. This movie's budget was probably,
what, like half of an MCU movies usually? 150
million. Yeah, and it looks way better, to be
honest with you, like the effects do. And I'll
say, like, it seems like this movie's doing well
enough that hopefully we get more of this universe.
Yeah, yeah. They're very optimistic. Yeah. Yeah,
and I mean, yeah, that's like, I guess the best
thing I could say is that I'm down for more,
you know what I mean? Like, there's really, like,
I'm down for more, whether it be with this party
that they've kind of formed together, or they
could totally spit it off and just... focus on
a different part like have only like one like
a like have only one a couple of the characters
show up in a cameo appearance or whatever you
know what i mean like yeah the world's their
oyster as far as it goes um yeah i i had a good
time i feel like i've been talking a lot though
joe what do you what are your thoughts i had
a really good time um i agree it's like stupid
fun um I would say that if you are a fan of D
&D, you're definitely going to get a lot out
of this movie with regards to the name dropping
of locations, the character races, how they handle
classes, as Andre was saying, like, you know,
she did well on her intuition on her initiative
or her intuition check. There's a sorcerer wizard
character that I think they have a lot of fun
with, like explaining and justifying how his
magic works. Okay. No, I think the only thing
that kind of bummed me out was after the film,
I was looking at the IMDB pages and there's a
section in the film that the people who wrote
it, the writers, they had always envisioned Monty
Python, the remaining members being in it. Yeah.
Oh, that would have been hilarious. Especially
like definitely had. influence over this well
especially like uh the trailer they showed with
the corpse where you can ask him three questions
or whatever like immediately i imagined monty
python yeah Yeah. And there's plenty of moments
like that. It takes us up. It's not all Monty
Python like that. Like there is like some drama.
There's some genuine emotional beats. And it's
nice, though, because like it takes itself just
seriously enough where it's like, OK, you're
invested in the plot, but also you you're having
fun along the way. Right. Yeah. It's not like.
Yeah, right. So it is the ninth best film of
the year, according to Box Mojo, with 65 mil.
OK, that's domestic, right? That's total gross
is what it says. I don't know if it's. I don't
know what box mojo, if it's total gross, uh,
domestic or international or whatever, but it's
in between eight was Megan with 95 million. Okay.
But that's like a horror movie that probably
had a third of, of Dungeons and Dragons budget.
Right. And then 10th, uh, the 10th best movie
of the year so far was 64 million cocaine bear.
Hell yeah. Let's go. Cocaine bear sweep. Where's
Ant -Man sitting while you have that up? Yeah,
I mean, it's probably pretty high. I have it.
It's their third. It'd be interesting to see
if you guys can guess what's one and two. I think
you can get one. I don't know if you'd get two.
It ain't Shazam. It ain't Shazam. Shazam is 12th.
It's still in the top 15. I mean, the movie that
you're talking about can't be up there yet. So
that just came out. No, it's not that. That is
20th so far, but this is also its opening weekend.
Number one is The Way of Water. Still going strong.
And number two is a movie we're going to get
into later. Oh, yes. Yes. I mean, that kind of
spoils what we're talking about, but it's pretty
obvious. Well, that definitely did. box office
mojo here we come um yeah i don't know i i don't
know really know where to rank this movie because
like i i i find it it's an easy enough watch
where i feel like i can recommend it to anybody
that's just like oh put it on like it's totally
it's gonna be a great netflix movie right just
throw it on there and and have a good time have
some beers you know yeah laugh and it'll be a
good time I don't know if you'll get much out
of that beyond that if you haven't played D &D
or are interested in D &D. If anything, I feel
like this would be a good exposure to be like,
here's the appeal. It's literally a good template.
They just did a really good one -shot, maybe
we'll say three -session D &D campaign. It's
like, okay, cool. Here is that campaign tied
up in a little bow. It's like, oh, if you want
to have your own stories like that, here's the
player manual and figure it out from there. I
probably landed, like, I'm going to say, like,
I'm going to give this one, like, a 3 .25 gelatinous
cubes. Oh, you took mine. Gelatinous cubes? Yes.
Which do make an appearance. There's tons of,
like. Yeah, it's clever with how they. Well,
I was going to say the gelatinous cubes in the
trailer. They're very thorough or thoughtful.
Oh, was the gelatinous cube in the trailer? Okay,
yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's a gelatinous
cube in the trailer. Cool. So, Andre, you gave
it a, what, 3 .5? 3 .25. 3 .25. Yeah, that's
about right. I'll give it a solid 3 .3 out of...
We are splitting numbers here. Out of five owlbears.
Okay. We both went with creatures, yeah. Okay.
Yeah, like... Yeah. We were trying to drive home
that it's the creatures that you really want
to see. Come on. True, true, true. You don't
care about these characters. You want to see
the creatures. We saw it for half price off at
the Sonata. On Tuesday. Yeah, on Tuesday. Yeah,
so it was a perfect $6 film. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
that's that feels about right. Yeah. Yeah. It
was it was just fun to watch and not have the
weight of an entire IP on it. If that makes sense.
You know what I mean? Like, I was fine, like
watching that. And it's like, OK, there's no
there's no setup. There's no after credit scene
where we have to, like, figure out how this ties
into anything else or whatever. Yeah. So, yeah,
they just have to make it make a fun movie and
they accomplish that. So they're number nine
on the list. Number 20 on the list is the movie
I'm going to talk about. Oh, yeah. I saw air
today. which is the story about not Michael Jordan,
but Michael Jordan's shoes. And we've gotten
to a dangerous part. Now we're just product placement
the movie. And that's the thing I'm going to
say before I jump into this, because I was thinking
about it going, this is essentially just the
Lego movie, but the Legos are now Air Jordans.
Okay. But I mean, seriously, this is to sell
Nikes pretty much. Did it feel like that? No,
it doesn't feel like that. The Lego movie is
a movie about selling Legos, but it's also a
very heartfelt promotional ride. This is a story
about how Nike became the top for their basketball
division. Right. Because when they first started,
they were not anything. They were third on the
list behind Adidas and Converse. and i say third
there might have been other people involved but
those are just the two that you can think of
right that i could think of yeah so are the the
two that they focused on not that i could think
of that they focused on because they did focus
on converse and adidas as well basically it's
the story of sonny vaquero who is the head of
their basketball department and really the only
thing he does is he knows how to scout talent
okay He decides that he wants to put instead
of them splitting their resources and getting
three people from the 1984 draft to like get
to sign with Nike, one of which being John Stockton
of all people. He basically says, what if we
take that budget and focus on one player? That
player being Michael Jordan, of course. It's
the story of how Sonny just shows up at their
house because Michael Jordan doesn't even want
to take a meeting with. nike that's how far that's
how low they are on the totem pole he doesn't
want to take a meeting like he's all right converse
second adidas first and if adidas doesn't work
out for not offering me the right thing we're
going converse right which is still so weird
to me i couldn't imagine wearing converse converse
jordans yeah no i'm having a hard time picturing
converse is anything but what it is right but
at that time period right so is there i mean
he's kind of tangential i guess is there is there
a young version of michael jordan that shows
up in this movie so you see the back of his head
and he says like one or two lines it really focused
on the parents probably for the best yeah for
sure honestly yes and like it's distracting the
first time because you see him walk in and you're
just like oh we're gonna actually see michael
but they they make it abundantly clear they're
not talking to him or like they're Not they're
not talking to him, but it's just they'll direct
things at him. And when they ask him a question,
he may have a one or two word response. So he
doesn't even need to nail the voice. But it's
just you just see him there pretty much. Which
is for the best, because it gives the true star
of the movie, I think, the time to shine, which
is Viola Davis as Dolores Jordan. She is phenomenal.
I obviously I don't know everything about Dolores
Jordan, but. I think she's nailed the mannerisms.
I think she nailed the accent. I think she nailed
the person that she was. Because truthfully,
as much as you have an agent and everything like
that, the decision comes down to your family.
And she is such a business mind. She had such
like this prowess of it and everything like that.
And they did include at the end the Hall of Fame
speech for Michael Jordan when he basically said,
I couldn't be here without my mom. She's the
best. Everything like that. She is the driving
force behind this movie. Matt Damon's great.
And he is Sonny Vaccaro. We have Phil Knight
as played by Ben Affleck. Because, of course.
And I'm just very thankful. Is this the first
movie they've been in together? In a while. Oh,
in a while. Yeah, probably. Yeah, I was about
to say. Obviously, they've been in a movie together.
When was the last time they starred in a movie
together? You know, they were in The Last Knight.
Or not Last Knight. What was that? Last Duel.
Last Duel. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,
the Oscar bait movie. The Oscar bait movie. Yeah,
that was 2021. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, they've
been in movies together still. Even though I
kind of like the fact that Ben Affleck's kind
of taking more of a backseat. You missed one.
In this one and Last Duel. Last Duel, he was
the king, and he really just was a minor part.
Damon's definitely more of the starring role,
especially in this one. We get a lot of Jason
Bateman. Chris Tucker was excellent. He played
Howard White, who's a former player that basically
Sonny brought on to run the basketball division
and everything like that. Truthfully, this movie
was great. Like it was really, really good. And
it's a movie about selling shoes. Like, I don't
know how a movie like that got me so much, but
it really was well done. And one of the things
that I was thinking about, that's kind of funny
that we're talking about these two movies back
to back Matt Damon, when they zoom in on his
face, cause they do a lot of weird camera shots.
I will say that there was a lot of weird camera
shots. They're kind of like, okay, why did they
take this shot? They have a shot of him from
like here to here, like a face and everything
like that. And what I was thinking to myself
is that he looks like an older, fatter Chris
Pine. Is that a compliment? No. He's supposed
to look fat in this movie. Because Sonny Vaccaro,
when he was recruiting him, was like an overweight
white guy. They drive that home a lot. Like,
how do you know basketball, you overweight white
guy? Okay, gotcha. And he works around the agent
at one point. And the agent just drives home,
you fat fuck! This is not a movie for kids, by
the way. There's a lot of fuck. A lot of sane
fuck. A lot of fuck, fuck, fuck. Did Affleck
or Damon direct it? I think Affleck directed
it. Yes, directed by Ben Affleck. Yep, looks
like it. And then Alex Convery wrote it. And
this is his first writing credit, which is kind
of amazing to me. But yeah, it's star -studded
cast. I mean, I'm not going to lie to you. It's
a movie about selling shoes. And you know what's
going to happen. Sure. But I mean, that's never
the point of these movies. It's like, oh, is
he going to take the deal? Whoa, no. Is there
a montage of shoe production? No, there's really
not. Really? In fact, they only present one shoe
to him at his meeting. which he didn't he had
to agree to a meeting with them um so when he
agrees to the meeting they basically are like
no we're making one because as soon as we mass
produce more it makes it lose its value and what's
so interesting is the idea of like converse made
it for everybody so it was the same shoe for
everybody but it's just We have Larry Bird. We
have Magic Johnson. These guys are like big names.
They wear Converse Adidas. You know, they're
like, we have one shoe. We have it in different
colors, but we have it in one shoe. And then
basically what was the difference was Nike said,
we're going to make a shoe line about you. Right.
This is Air Jordan. Like it is. It is what it
is. Yeah. There's some great parts about it too
with like colors and stuff like that because
the NBA didn't allow more than 50 % of the shoe
to be a certain color. It had to be white majority
of the way. And there's an interesting point
where I don't want to spoil it, but there's an
interesting point where they talk about the fact
that, all right, we're also throwing in this
shoe is not going to be white like completely.
It is going to be for you. So we're going to
pay the fine for every game so that you can wear
this shoe. Oh, interesting. OK, so they were
I didn't I didn't know that that nugget is that
they were paying fines for not following protocol
for. OK, interesting. There's a there's a lot
of that stuff. I didn't know that. That's cool.
There's a lot of stuff like that that makes the
story compelling. Yeah, right. And that's that's
the cool things. And like it's even knowing that
they do it really well, where like there's more
to that than just that. But it's a lot of talk
about making shoes and a lot of talk about we're
getting Michael Jordan. We're getting fucking
Michael Jordan. So would you recommend this movie
to somebody that is A, not a sneakerhead, B,
not like a... I'm not a sneakerhead. I saw this
because I love Michael Jordan. I do love sports,
yes, as well. And I think it's kind of cool,
the whole background of this whole thing. It
would be interesting to see you, a person that's
obviously on LeBron's dick. Oh, is that a Cavaliers
champion shirt you're wearing? In my Cavaliers
2015 Eastern Conference Championship t -shirt
right now. What do you mean I'm on LeBron's dick?
What? And you know the end where they talk about
where everybody is? Because it's a biopic, obviously.
They talk about where everybody is. There is
a line, Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball
player of all time. And so I was wondering how
you would fare with that. you know whatever it's
it's not a now you know what's coming so if you
go see it you can be like that's bullshit lebron
yeah well this is also directed by by uh ben
affleck who's he's like a boston like sports
guy yeah but i would say he's nostalgic for yeah
yeah yeah but that's what i'm saying also probably
anti -lebron man follow the money all right it's
all a conspiracy you know money I feel like the
fire in me died when the NBA Top 75 came out
and it was LeBron number two and Michael Jordan
number one. You know what I mean? Yeah, where
he belongs. Yeah, we can get on this. I didn't
sign up for a sports podcast. I don't want to
get on this right before the Lakers are going
to play in the playoffs. what's that hopes and
dreams cut yeah exactly like they might embarrass
themselves in the first round i don't know we'll
see now you make me wonder i'm looking up alex
conberry who wrote the actual script like where
is he from you got me following the money yep
yep yep oh you did say that michael jordan was
shown in the original script oh okay so um all
right wow uh era exists because the screenwriter
saw the last dance okay basically yeah like he
had no clue about that makes sense someone was
inspired by that makes sense that makes sense
yeah he said it wouldn't exist if it wasn't for
the last dance because he thought oh wow there's
a movie there so yeah Obviously. If only he watched
Believeland, man. Maybe it'd be different. Believeland?
That's the name of it? Yeah, there's a documentary
series about the 2016 championship that is much
lower budget and also a totally different thing
than The Last Dance. It's not really the same
thing. But either way, I digress. Who produced
that? I'm looking that up right now. Who's the
big Cleveland celebrity that wrote and produced
it? There's a couple of them. No, no. Hold on.
Produced by LeBron. No, there's the 30 for 30.
What the hell, man? I can't find it. Believe
in Cleveland. What's that? Believe in Cleveland.
Yeah. I guess it was a 30. I guess it was a 30
for 30. It was a 30 for 30, yeah. Why did I think
that was a totally separate entity? I totally
forgot that was a 30 for 30. Well, that's the
funny thing about Catching Hell, the Steve Bartman
story. Yeah. I thought it was a 30 for 30. No,
it's an ESPN film. Completely different, I know.
I'd somehow totally like... I guess the thing
is that I watched it before I worked at ESPN,
so I just wasn't as tuned into the brand when
I was watching it. This is my excuse. Either
way. Jill did not sign up for this. No, I did
not. Alright, Jill. We're going to watch Believeland
sometime this weekend, okay? As the Cavaliers
enter the playoffs for the first time without
LeBron since 98, man. Isn't it great? it's weird
because this movie feels like an oscar baity
movie and it's released in april so right that's
that's everything everywhere all at once i know
so i guess do you think it's an oscar baity movie
like do you think they're they're the movie no
no and i give it a 4 .5 out of 5 so i'll give
it i'll give it 4 .5 um uh shit um sneaker souls
4 .5 prospects they're trying to sell sneakers
to because i didn't want to use sneakers you
know okay yeah that just feels that one that
one uh yeah yeah um so i give it a 4 .5 out of
5 i really enjoyed it i'd watch it again um the
acting is great i say there may be some best
actor actress supporting actress supporting actor
like noms okay okay um because like i could see
matt damon gained a best actor nom i could see
viola davis gain i guess it'd be best supporting
because she really wasn't in a lot of it but
she also was the main actress i don't know that
would be interesting where they put her for that
uh and then best supporting actor i would give
to chris tucker chris was excellent really really
good he's like he's very chris tuckery but he
he does a good job So 4 .5 out of 5 prospects
to sell sneakers to. Hell yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. Okay. Let's go. Jill, you've got
our last movie. I wonder what it could be. So
20 years or 30, almost 30 years after their first
attempt, Nintendo is back with their flagship
mascot. Yes. It's Mario. Mario. The Super Mario
Bros. movie. Made by Illumination. I'm still
saying, I think we should do, as a bad movie,
the original Super Mario Bros. as our next episode
kind of thing. I think that's a great idea. Have
either of you ever seen it? I have. It has been
a long time. It has been also a very long time.
It used to be on TV a lot. Yes. Jeez. I would
give money to Bob Hoskins. That movie was such
a disaster. It was that coupled with the Philips
CD -i debacle that Nintendo basically was like,
alright, we are not letting anybody touch any
of our IPs ever again. I'm sorry, what about
Link looking like... yeah what they look like
but isn't that how we got like the sword of gamelan
was one of the cdis wand of gamelan wand of gamelan
they're all terrible and they're all again it
was just a total of mangling whatever basically
main nintendo not trust anybody exactly right
i think i i shared it with you guys the last
time we talked or i definitely may have mentioned
this there's a really fantastic article about
the making of the movie the 1993 super mario
mario brothers film and how it just you read
it And the directors were just so up their own
asses on like what they thought they were making.
And it's a mess. I'll see if I can send it to
you. It's a really fascinating read. Because
so much of what defines Mario nowadays just wasn't
even around in 93, right? Think about it. Like,
you know, Super Mario Brothers was an eight -year
-old game as opposed to an almost 40 -year -old
game. Right. When they were making it. So they're
now, at least this movie has. Literally like
five, ten times the amount of source material
to pull from. Probably the most important thing
is that at least the people who made this movie
played Mario. Yes. And they've grown up with
Mario. It's very clear. And made Bowser actually
Bowser. Bowser is fantastic. Bowser is, yeah.
I mean, in this movie, yes, but we're talking
about the bad movie. Oh, yeah, right. They don't
even call him Bowser. They call him King Koopa.
Yes, they do. He's not even called that. And
I think it's not Peach. I think it's Daisy. Oh.
What? Really? It's Daisy. I'm pretty sure it's
not Peach in the original. Okay. Well, that's
a topic for when we watch the terrible what movie.
Verifying this. But yeah. No, let's talk about
the actual good one. So the Super Mario Bros
movie made by Illumination. You know what? It's
pretty fun. Yeah. Yeah. It was a feast for the
eyes in terms of Easter. It's a good time. It's
definitely Illumination's best looking film.
They aired an Illumination trailer for something,
probably The Next Despicable Me or Minion film
beforehand. You could tell the visual difference
in film between this one. They definitely treat
these characters like they know them. The plot
is probably the weakest thing in the film, which
is semi -unfortunate. I mean, they found a way
to get Mario Kart in there. I wasn't expecting
Shakespeare. Yeah, I was going to say, if you
are a fan of Mario or gaming, you'll kind of
overlook that. Did they get tennis, golf, or
soccer or baseball in there? They did not get
any sports in there. Well, so there's sports
references in the background, but there's never,
he never swings a golf club and he doesn't ever
swing. They don't do that. Save that for my brothers
too, I guess, right? Yeah. They got to give us
something to come back for. This movie definitely
felt like its thesis statement was, how do we
get as much? video game -like sequences into
this movie as possible, right? Which I don't
know what else I was expecting, I guess, but
it was like, okay, we're going to have these
set pieces that kind of reflect this specific
kind of feel for this game or whatever, from
the games or whatever, and then we'll write a
plot to kind of stitch it all together afterwards.
How can we make this feel like a visual video
game? Yeah. So it feels almost more like a theme
park ride than a movie, right? In a fun way.
yeah i i came out of it the same way i would
come out of like you know like like the star
wars like you know rise of the resistance resistance
yeah guardians cosmic coaster right where like
you're there and you're experiencing guardian
stuff but you're not coming out of it being like
oh man like that narrative and that they really
advanced the plot yeah exactly um no the voice
acting uh which we haven't talked about yet yeah
you know i'm gonna say chris pratt as mario Not
bad. I think they did him fucking dirty in those
trailers. I think the internet reacted a little
hard. They decided to pick the worst fucking
takes that he had because he sounds way better
in the movie than they did in the trailers. And
I was going to say, I think they did that on
purpose because they didn't want to reveal the
voice. I mean, I guess. But if you build up that
negativity, people are going... There's no such
thing as bad press. It's tension. And truthfully,
would a good voice have done better, or would
a bad voice have done better for the movie? I
mean, I'm sure there's some people who went to
this movie just because they wanted to see Chris
Pratt fail. And they actually address the, like,
they do a good job. They have a single joke for...
why he's not sounding like charles martin a let's
go yeah you know they he does the voice for a
hot second and they address it and then they
move on and it's like okay that's yeah i'm happy
that was the good explanation yeah i think it's
good yeah exactly right well that's what i'm
saying though i think they they knew what they
were doing they put the bad voice out there because
i think it did more for the marketing for the
movie people were talking about it yeah Yeah.
Anya Taylor -Joy as Princess Peach, who definitely,
of all the characters in the film, they did the
most with her, which is very, very satisfying.
Yeah, Peach definitely got the biggest glow -up
of any of the characters, of any Mario characters,
because she is an actual character. She has agency.
It's so fantastic. Yeah. roll right she's not
damsel in distress not just like oh mario i baked
a castle come you know come to the castle i baked
a castle i baked a cake for you come meet me
in the castle princess peach that's that's pretty
impressive if you baked me a castle that would
be pretty impressive cool yeah castle cake um
yeah it sounds like a super uh it probably is
a mario party it is a mario party world yep Yeah,
right. Seth Rogen as Donkey Kong is exactly what
it says on the tin. He does the Seth Rogen laugh.
Yeah, he does that. He does the laugh and it's
like, okay, cool. Whatever. I don't want to say
it took me out of the movie because I was never
in the movie. I was just smiling with the movie.
Yeah. Shocking to no one, Jack Black as Bowser
steals the show. Jack Black is having a blast.
They clearly wrote, I think they kind of let
him do his thing, and they wrote Bowser around
him, which was absolutely the right thing to
do. Love it. Gave him the sound room and turned
on the mic and said, have at it, man. My favorite
interview was when him, Keegan -Michael Key,
Charlie Day, and Chris Pratt all went on the
Kelly Clarkson show, and they didn't know where
he was. And basically they were saying he was
hiding backstage because they all lied to him
saying they were dressing as their characters.
So he was dressed as Bowser and everybody else
was normal. And like it was told it was a total
bit like an absolute total bit. But then it goes
into. Kelly goes backstage, talk to him and is
like, oh, I'll give you the special entrance
because we want to make you feel better. And
he just tears it up like the door swings open.
He's just. i expect nothing less oh it was so
good because it's just such black uh jack black
yeah it's a delight no he's a delight he still
he's he's a scene stealer in this movie i wish
there was more bowser frankly because of that
yeah charlie day is luigi is great um i saw something
interesting a headline today that like caught
my eye and it was that this film at least to
the author, is making them re -examine and re
-appreciate Wreck -It Ralph. Definitely, I think
Wreck -It Ralph deserves a lot more love. So
this could jump. On that note, I think Wreck
-It Ralph... They're very different films. They
are very different films. Wreck -It Ralph is
a much better movie, I think, than this movie.
Wreck -It Ralph is very much a better... It's
better than Ralph Breaks the Internet. Yes. Wait,
what? Is this movie better than Ralph Breaks
the Internet? Yes. Ralph Breaks the Internet
is not good. I don't want to tear this movie
down because I don't think that... I think they
accomplished exactly what they wanted to with
this movie really well. I just don't think they
were trying to write a super emotional core story.
It's a fun kids movie. It made me feel like a
kid for 90 minutes and I think that's great.
you know um but it's not going you know it doesn't
it didn't make me feel anything like any any
Pixar movie ever does didn't make me feel anything
like Wreck -It Ralph does uh even the Lego movie
right like Lego movie had a really strong emotional
core with strong writing between those characters
but you know and Chris Pratt and Charlie Day
in it um so you guys ready for Garfield featuring
Chris Pratt oh god is that actually happening
i forget was that joke or not supposedly that's
happening okay got it that's right that was like
the big one too it's like chris pratt's mario
chris pratt is garfield like what's happening
yeah yeah it's the voice actors taking over the
world yeah i guess so um oh next one is gonna
be star lord and oh shit oh wait shit that already
happened twice it'll be three times um the one
thing that pissed me off like actually actively
like made me upset about this movie was all the
licensed music yes come on man like this movie's
biggest sin is very much what the licensed music
it takes you it's fun they there's like one they
do it multiple times there is one occasion where
i'm like okay fine whatever but it just keeps
coming and it's not for kids it's obviously not
for the kids it's for the adults yeah it's like
did we need this there's a rich catalog of music
well right so that's the reason i get upset by
it right because like literally like you know
70 in the movie You get really, really, really
cool remixes from the video games and orchestral
theme. And it's like, it's cool. It's awesome.
You know, like Mario's hopping around and you
hear the Toad, you hear Toad's house theme from
Mario three. And then like, oh, suddenly like
you're, you're in Donkey Kong country and you
hear, you hear the Donkey Kong, the DK rap. You're
like, oh man, like this is awesome. This is great.
No sleep till Brooklyn's in this. No sleep till
Brooklyn's in there. Take on me. She just randomly
shows up. Weezer. Yep. Holden Out for a Hero.
Yep. Holden Out for a Hero shows up. That is
actually the one that there is a Holding Out
for a Hero montage. That's the one I think I
could get away with. I'm like, okay, cool. That's
at least semi. It fits the context in which it
occurs. And it's a strong montage. It does not
beat Shrek 2's use of Holding Out for a Hero.
I will say that. Nothing does. Also, the bigger
difference there is that Shrek 2, at least Jennifer
Saunders is singing it. Yes. Yes. That's a good
point. However, this film does have one original
song by Jack Black that is... I'm calling it
now Oscar winning song. They were talking about
that it's valid. It's eligible. It can be put
up. I'm going to go right up there with Blame
Canada as like... Blame Canada. Okay. I just
want Jack Black to know. If Jack Black listens
to this, you know, as he does, where is our Jack
Gray album? That's a great question. Didn't they
didn't they do a show together? Jack? Well, they
were supposed to do an album together. Jack Black
and Jack White were doing an album called Jack
Gray. Oh, and Jack Black. Jack White didn't get
along. Maybe. Which wouldn't shock me with Jack
White. I feel like Jack Black would get along
with everyone. Yeah. i mean for all we know jack
you you might be difficult but i really don't
think yeah i don't think he is either i mean
he literally yeah he seems just like it's such
a go with the flow i mean he's poe he voices
some of my favorite characters you know kung
fu panda that one time in a shark tale yeah I
never saw Shark Tale, so I can't talk about it.
Jack Black is delightful. It's Jack Black. Will
Smith. Will Smith's the main character. Keep
Will Smith's name out your mouth. You think Will
Smith's going to show up in Super Mario Bros.
2? Who? Who's Will Smith's voice in the Mario
canon that we haven't seen? If they do an expanded
universe, make him Fox. Well, that's what I'm
wondering, too. That'd be interesting. I have
him more as Falco. Yeah. I think he'd be cool
Falco. We can't reach consensus. I want Michael
B. Jordan to be Falco. Oh, okay. Michael B. Jordan
as Falco. Michael B. Jordan as everybody. While
we're on the theme, then, Jamie Foxx as Star
Wolf. That'd be pretty cool. Yeah, okay. As people
can tell, this opens the door to questioning
what they're going to do with this success. So
what comes next? Exactly. So what comes next
is another Mario movie, for sure. Yes, I agree.
There's definitely going to be probably another
Mario film. This movie, this beat, Frozen 2,
is the biggest animated movie opening ever. So
I have two options. I think they go next after
the second Mario movie. Okay. Okay. Do they go
Luigi's mansion? I would, I would hope so. I
would love that so much. Luigi definitely deserves
Charlie. Charlie. It was great. Yeah. Or do they
go legend of Zelda? So I, if, how do you do a
legend of Zelda film where he doesn't talk? Well,
right. And then also if they give fucking legend
of Zelda to illumination. I will cry. I will
cry tears because this is like, okay. So like
illumination works great pick for a Mario movie,
right? Like all the complaints that I, the complaint
that I have this time, I get an emotional core
of a story. It's fine. It's Mario. You know,
like I, like you can have a theme park ride through
the mushroom kingdom and I'm totally fine. Yeah.
Do you have a theme park? Universal. They do.
Yes. If they adapt legend of Zelda to a medium,
either as a TV series, a movie, what have you.
I need to have a sense of place. I need to have,
I need to feel like we are in Hyrule. I did not
feel like I was in the mushroom kingdom because
mushroom kingdom is not, it's whatever they want
it to be for the video games. Right. But Zelda
needs to be handled with a little more. I want
to say. TLC. Not TLC, because they put a lot
of TLC in there. Mike is laughing. He is howling
right now. So I was looking at what, so somebody
made like a graphic that was like the potential
sequels and everything like that. Sure. Apparently
Jack Black has already suggested somebody for
the sequel. He suggested the character of Wario.
Yes. Yes, because Wario is not. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wario is not in this movie. Jack Black. suggested
pedro pascal oh my god why not the internet daddy
fuck not oh i love it that'd be amazing actually
i'm all for that my i mean i don't think they're
gonna do this because it would just it would
be bonkers but i want them to do the subspace
um emissary that's the story mode from brawl
brawl smash brothers yeah that's the closest
thing we've had to like The Super Smash Brothers
movie, right? It's honestly very Avengers Endgame
in tone. It's a lot of fun if you watch all of
it. I would rather have them just jump to that.
They do the second Mario movie. They end it with
similar to perhaps... I don't need a Nintendo.
Sorry, go for it. We're getting a Nintendo universe.
It's Illumination. They do three movies for every...
everything but like i don't i don't need like
fox as like a post -credit scene and it's like
i want to talk to you about the super smash brothers
initiative or whatever dream scenario yeah in
this dream scenario they do the second film maybe
they do a third and then whichever one of those
it ends with the Kind of similar to Nightmare
Before Christmas, where they have the different
trees to the different holidays. They imply that
there's more to this world that's out there,
or there's other universes, and they already
kind of have. And then we just go right into
subspace. I would say the next step would be
from Mario to Kirby. Kirby would be my... Kirby
fits the more closer tone. I have two characters
I want in the sequel. Yoshi. and wario or donkey
i heard donkey kong country would also donkey
kong country yeah they could totally do that
because they went to they went to don they yeah
they you know don kong they've already kind of
created it yeah kingdom or monkey kingdom i don't
know i don't know what i think it's kong king
kong island either either way if if illumination
got if i if this is the legend of zelda movie
and it was done this way i would be much more
upset about it if that makes sense right because
like it's just like well like in starfox i feel
like it's similar in that i think you could do
that a little more because it's like it's animals
that are alive and everything like that but i
do feel like it has a harsher like tone kind
of thing you know like even the animation style
though the game open the game opens with an with
an invasion of a planet and and yeah you know
mass war going on yeah yeah definitely well and
like the animation style too like it's a lot
more sleek than illumination does illumination
does bubbly and bouncy very well yes they don't
do sleek and dramatic very well yeah i mean like
the reality of it is that starfox is not a well
uh well -selling ip will say it's kind of been
shelved after starfox zero yeah so i mean like
what we're like we already got a pokemon detective
pikachu movie right so we'll probably get more
of those um probably are we getting another detective
pikachu it's i haven't we haven't heard anything
yeah i haven't heard anything in a while But,
like, it did really well at the box office, right?
Justice Smith is now off doing the D &D movie.
Yeah, he was in D &D. Right, it's true. He was
the sorcerer. He was good. Yeah. Did I get big
too? It was slated for 2024, supposedly. Okay.
We haven't rated the Mario movie yet. Oh, we
have not. You're right. Okay. Jill? Out of five,
I'm gonna give it... I had a good time. I would
give it, like, a 3 .8 out of... Five Wahoos.
Wahoo. Wahoo. I'm going to give it... I'm going
to give it a... I think taking it on its own
terms, I'm going to give it a 3 .5. 3 .5 power
-ups out of 5. I had a great time. I'm surprised
Tanooki Suits didn't make it in this. I know.
I was like, I could have come up with something
better. In the ratings. I know. I think the real
question that we didn't ask is, Andre, better
or worse than the first Sonic? Not worse. Better
or did you like it more than the first Sonic
film? This is where the hot takes come in, okay?
I like Sonic better as a movie. I think Sonic
1, I came out more pleasantly surprised than
Mario, right? Mario, like... I think it's they're
different movies, honestly, like even though
they're both video game adaptations or whatever,
they're both trying to do different things. I
think Sonic. I like the characters in Sonic more
and it had like it's a very generically plotted
movie. But you know what? Hey, I grew to like
James Marsden and Sonic, you know, like I grew
to like Eggman and oh, my God, his his his companion.
Agent Stone, right? Yeah. Like so the Sonic movie
brought. original aspects to that IP that I kind
of grew to enjoy. It was fun, and I was like,
wow, they treated the IP with respect, and it
added its own flair to it. This movie does not
bring anything new to the table besides Jack
Black's interpretation of Bowser, and then arguably
a reinterpretation of Peach's character, which
are both heavily appreciated. There's no original
character in this movie that I've ever... And
that's not to say I needed it. That'd be kind
of weird if... Yeah, they're making a new character.
It's the third Luigi brother. They didn't put
a Mii in there. Third Mario brother. Yeah. Well,
I guess, actually, no, that's not true. Because,
like... So, it's a whole frame story of, like...
mario and luigi are in a semi -real version of
brooklyn right and they get transported to the
mushroom kingdom right yeah okay they show his
family briefly and that's the other thing that's
coming out of it is that like they try to play
on this thread of like mario's parents aren't
upset are upset with him starting a plumbing
business because that's his dream is to be a
plumber and they have like two lines discarded
to like, like where they're all eating there.
They're all, they're all eating dinner. And then
his dad has kind of given the chagrin being like,
you're true. This is a, this is a, this is a
pipe dream kid. They didn't actually say pipe
dream. It's a terrible pun, but you know what
I mean? Like, it's like, it's like, Oh, this
is the, you should just get us up and you're
pulling your brother into it. It's irresponsible.
And they just move on from that. The actual movie
happens. And then Mario has a heart to heart
with Donkey Kong in the, right before the third
act. And he's like, you know, they're both down
on their luck and they're like, and like donkey
kong seth rogan's like oh my dad thinks i'm a
failure and then mario's like yeah my dad thinks
i'm a failure too and i'm like what like we're
bringing this back into this like like this is
a through line was that you want to prove yourself
to your dad this is the emotional spoilers everybody
sorry okay come on but like this like It's a
Mario movie. We all know what's happening. I'm
mostly kidding. I'm just amused that you're telling
the whole plot. Why are you even attempting at
this plot thread when you barely tried to set
it up, right? So I think as a movie, Sonic the
Hedgehog was better plotted than the Mario Brothers
movie, which is a weird sentence to say out loud
because the games could not be in a more reverse
situation. You ready for apples, oranges? Yeah.
The new Mortal Kombat or Sonic the Hedgehog?
Oh, Sonic the Hedgehog beats Mortal Kombat. Mortal
Kombat is probably the worst of these three.
Sonic the Hedgehog didn't have a superfluous
character. And also, Mortal Kombat didn't even
have the ding -a -ding combat. Sonic the Hedgehog
succeeded where Mortal Kombat failed in that
I liked the original characters in Sonic the
Hedgehog. I did not like the original character
in Mortal Kombat, the movie original character.
He was lame. Sorry. They are making another one,
which I'm excited about. They are. Mortal Kombat
didn't even have the thing that says on the tin.
Kano saves that movie for me. Kano's great. And
for the seventh time in a row, the video game
adaptation curse has been squashed. I think it's
safe to just stop seeing that now. I'm so fucking
tired of hearing, seeing articles. Seventh time
in a row? Dude, this is like, maybe not seventh,
but like every single thing that's come out,
every single video game adaptation. I mean, D
&D also could be argued fits under that. Great
video game adaptation curse is over. And I'm
like, bro. Yeah, no, we can all think The Last
of Us. Yeah, right. Is what broke the curse.
That would count. Yeah, OK. I got four so far.
Mario broke it. Then before Mario, it was Last
of Us. And then before Last of Us, it was Sonic
2. Then Sonic 1. And then Detective Pikachu.
Yeah, you're right. Detective Pikachu was probably
the five. Detective Pikachu was the first. Yeah,
that was like the first. Oh, you forgot. I mean,
does Arcane count? Oh, yeah, Arcane definitely
counts. That counts, too, for sure. Oh, Castlevania,
Netflix, Castlevania. Oh, yeah, Castlevania is
fantastic. Seven. There you go. We got there.
Mortal Kombat, eight. Sure, why not? I didn't
hate it, you know? I would go to the Yakuza movie.
Ooh, make a Yakuza movie. Let's go. I would love
that. Holy shit. I bet you would love it, too,
Mike, to be honest with you. I feel like Yakuza
is absolutely your kind of shit. Probably. I
mean, I've watched like a dragon playthroughs.
Oh, did you? Okay. So, you know, the tone then,
you know, you get a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I don't, I don't know exactly everything, but
yeah, I've seen a little bit of it. I probably
would like that. Yeah. It's good. It's good.
Okay. What if we make a video game series about
my, or the movie series about mafia and call
it Godfather? Oh, dude. We might be onto something
there. You might be onto something. Whoa, they're
making a movie adaptation of the Mafia video
games? Let's go! Stars Robert De Niro. Dude,
that's just like that time that they made a movie
out of Spider -Man 2, my favorite PS2 game. Aren't
they making a Gran Turismo? They're making a
Gran Turismo movie, yes. Gran Turismo, thank
you. Yes. Who's the big person in that? Shit.
I knew you were going to ask. You also forgot
the Halo TV series. That did not break the video
game adaptation curse. I'm sorry. I thought people
liked it. David Harbour. David Harbour's in it.
David Harbour and Archie. Orlando Bloom. Orlando
Bloom's in it. Oh, yeah. That's a pairing I never
thought I'd see. Juman Hansu, which I learned
how to pronounce his name finally the other day
because I've been calling him Juman Hansu. Oh,
man, he's like in everything. He's like in everything.
Yeah, I know, but I didn't know how to pronounce
his name. I've just called him Digimon Hansu.
That is definitely not how I pronounce it. Yeah.
I understood. There's a D in there, and I didn't
know that the D was silent. He's... Oh, my God.
What's his Marvel Cinematic Universe's name?
Korath. Yeah. Yeah, Korath. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, video
game adaptations. Will they ever be good? Who
knows? But we like the Mario movie. It was good.
We would see another. Yeah, yes. And there's
going to be another, because this movie is making...
this is good this is this is a huge year for
nintendo because they opened up super mario bro
or the super nintendo world rather in hollywood
now orlando is soon to follow um hopefully before
we go in august yeah yeah we're going august
uh to universal and uh uh disney nice nice do
you know where you're staying yes we are staying
uh to be told outside of the podcast Okay, cool.
No, we're staying at Port Orleans, the river
port or whatever. Riverside. Yeah, Riverside.
Hell yeah. Very nice. You can take a boat to
Disney Springs from there. I know. I'm actually
really excited about that. Yeah. Disney Springs
is awesome. I love Disney Springs, so I'm all
for it. Cool. Okay. Well, that seems to do it
for this episode of Game for a Movie where we
ask, are you game for a movie? I've been your
host, Mike. I've been joined by... Andre! Andre
forgot the order there. I did for a second. I
saw the look on your face. We'll see you next
time on Game for a Movie. Bye -bye!