WEBVTT 00:00:02.060 --> 00:00:03.640 You know what that sound means? It's another 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:06.440 episode of Game for a Movie, where we ask, are 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:08.900 you game for a movie? I am Mike, joined by... 00:00:08.900 --> 00:00:14.759 Jill. Oh, Andre. And Mitchell. Yeah! Yeah! Alright, 00:00:14.919 --> 00:00:17.879 so there was a movie that came out. I don't know 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:20.320 if you've heard of it. Clifford the Big Red... 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:22.339 No. Did it actually come out? Did you see it? 00:00:22.460 --> 00:00:28.019 No, I didn't see it. We don't have that. Where 00:00:28.019 --> 00:00:30.820 all the best content is. I have Paramount+. Have 00:00:30.820 --> 00:00:32.939 you been watching the Fairly Oddparent remake 00:00:32.939 --> 00:00:35.820 series? I just hit my elbow. The thought of him 00:00:35.820 --> 00:00:37.640 watching that brought him physical pain. Yes. 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:39.939 No, I'm not watching. What about the Halo TV 00:00:39.939 --> 00:00:41.479 show we were just talking about? I'm not watching 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:44.719 the Halo TV show either. Spoilers. I'm down to 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:46.780 watch Master Chief get jiggy with it. Oh, God. 00:00:46.939 --> 00:00:50.119 No, I'm upset. I'm upset. Yeah, we've already 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:52.179 gone off the rails. Okay. Hey, that's our show. 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:55.350 No. There was a movie that came out that we are 00:00:55.350 --> 00:00:58.070 going to talk about. But first, we're going to 00:00:58.070 --> 00:01:00.869 talk about what we are drinking. Oh, okay. Yeah. 00:01:00.969 --> 00:01:03.929 Yes. Andre, you're going first. All right. I 00:01:03.929 --> 00:01:07.629 got me a double IPA called Nothing Gold from 00:01:07.629 --> 00:01:12.129 Bissell Brothers. It's a brewery in... Just outside 00:01:12.129 --> 00:01:13.650 of Portland? Just outside of Portland. Just outside 00:01:13.650 --> 00:01:15.590 of Portland? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm guessing 00:01:15.590 --> 00:01:17.549 you got this on your trip to Maine. That is right. 00:01:17.730 --> 00:01:20.489 We did. Nice. This is the final stop on our brewery 00:01:20.489 --> 00:01:24.150 tour. It was epic. Yeah. All right. No, it was 00:01:24.150 --> 00:01:26.510 really good. How many breweries? In one day? 00:01:26.650 --> 00:01:29.489 In one day. Five, including the distillery. Yes. 00:01:29.489 --> 00:01:31.709 Nice. All right. Well done, well done. Which 00:01:31.709 --> 00:01:33.969 is a lot for our age at this point. Yeah. Some 00:01:33.969 --> 00:01:37.329 mistakes remain along the way. Yeah, fair. Yeah. 00:01:37.450 --> 00:01:39.129 It was fun. We ran into a bunch of dudes from 00:01:39.129 --> 00:01:41.290 Massachusetts who were, like, pulled up a map 00:01:41.290 --> 00:01:44.109 of different breweries in Vermont, Rhode Island, 00:01:44.189 --> 00:01:45.530 and Mass. Yeah, they literally had, like... We're 00:01:45.530 --> 00:01:47.329 doing this in one week. Yeah, they, like, had, 00:01:47.390 --> 00:01:49.469 like, a whole entire map of, like, all of New 00:01:49.469 --> 00:01:51.390 England and then Connecticut was blank. And I 00:01:51.390 --> 00:01:53.829 was like, bro. Dude, Connecticut is... And they 00:01:53.829 --> 00:01:55.469 were like, tell us where to go. We'll go. Yeah. 00:01:55.829 --> 00:01:58.109 I'll give them a hell of a list. Yeah. To their 00:01:58.109 --> 00:02:00.370 credit, they looked like they could probably 00:02:00.370 --> 00:02:03.590 do it, but at the same time, it was a very intimidating... 00:02:03.590 --> 00:02:05.969 So we're gonna talk, like, adult softball guys? 00:02:06.109 --> 00:02:07.920 Yeah. Like that kind of thing? Yeah. Yeah. They 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:10.479 got the barrel stomach. Oh, yes. You nailed it. 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:12.500 Yeah, yeah. They definitely hold their beer. 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:15.439 And I think this was not their first day. No. 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:18.199 It didn't seem like it. Did not. They had it 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:21.960 down, though. All right. Jill, what do you got 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:24.719 there? We've featured the brewery on this podcast 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:27.580 a lot because Andre and I are fan people. But 00:02:27.580 --> 00:02:32.680 I have freshly brewed on a can on the 12th. Okay. 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:36.250 It's Alvarium's Rocket Pop. Just so you know, 00:02:36.270 --> 00:02:38.050 it's Friday the 13th that we're recording this. 00:02:38.150 --> 00:02:40.669 Oh, yeah. Freshly canned on the 12th. Freshly 00:02:40.669 --> 00:02:43.030 canned on the 12th. I love Friday the 13th. It's 00:02:43.030 --> 00:02:45.770 like the best day of the year. Anyway, it's a 00:02:45.770 --> 00:02:49.889 popsicle -style sour featuring cherry, raspberry, 00:02:50.090 --> 00:02:53.870 and lime. And it is very refreshing. Nice. All 00:02:53.870 --> 00:02:55.870 right. Mitchell, what do you got over there? 00:02:56.550 --> 00:03:04.000 I got a fresh glass of 2022 Los Angeles. and 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:07.960 it is delicious. That's a good year. It's a very 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:11.379 great year. It doesn't really hold up to 2021 00:03:11.379 --> 00:03:15.439 Stanford tap water, but this is pretty solid. 00:03:15.620 --> 00:03:21.319 How is the water in LA? Look, I'm actually reading 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:26.000 a book about this. William Mulholland is the 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:29.939 guy who brought water to Los Angeles. Mulholland 00:03:29.939 --> 00:03:36.360 Drive Mulholland? Exactly. And this basically 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:39.419 the premise of the book is that Los Angeles at 00:03:39.419 --> 00:03:42.900 its size should not exist. It just simply should 00:03:42.900 --> 00:03:46.819 not exist because there is no natural water resource 00:03:46.819 --> 00:03:52.879 near it for this aqueduct. So anyway, given how 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:55.340 crazy it is that there is water in this city 00:03:55.340 --> 00:03:58.259 for millions and millions of people, it's really 00:03:58.259 --> 00:04:06.560 good. I'm just saying I would have given it a 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:08.580 few years, let it get a little vintage, you know. 00:04:09.539 --> 00:04:15.719 Nice patina. I am drinking from Reverie Brewing, 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:18.899 because I do love Reverie Brewing, Little Piggy. 00:04:19.459 --> 00:04:22.939 It is a barbecue -inspired imperial amber ale. 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:28.100 Oh, barbecue. Oh, yeah, yeah. I want to smell 00:04:28.100 --> 00:04:30.680 it. Okay, so let me read this first and then 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:32.879 I'll give you a smell. This beer is a celebration 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:35.019 of the sweet flavors found in meat cooked over 00:04:35.019 --> 00:04:38.420 the open flame. Spice from Szechuan peppercorns, 00:04:38.500 --> 00:04:41.899 sweetness from molasses and brown sugar, and 00:04:41.899 --> 00:04:45.000 a kick from cayenne pepper, all blended harmoniously 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:48.319 in this refreshing amber ale. I'm happy there's 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:52.120 no meats inspired. So they had a beer dinner. 00:04:52.620 --> 00:04:55.319 And they basically made this for the main course. 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:57.620 That sounds really nice. Yeah. It's a little 00:04:57.620 --> 00:04:59.959 spicy. It's spicy. Yeah. I didn't get any spice. 00:05:00.339 --> 00:05:01.720 You definitely get the Szechuan peppercorns in 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:03.800 there. I think this has overpowered my tongue, 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:05.660 so I'm not getting any spice. But that was very 00:05:05.660 --> 00:05:07.379 nice. No, it's got a little buzz to it. I'm just 00:05:07.379 --> 00:05:09.120 happy it doesn't taste like meat. I'm glad I'm 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:11.860 not drinking more than one. But the one is pretty 00:05:11.860 --> 00:05:14.480 good. What's the ABV? I think it's only like 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:16.839 5 or 6%. Yeah, it's amber. Yeah, it's not terrible. 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:20.860 7 .3, wow. It's imperial, so there you go. What's 00:05:20.860 --> 00:05:25.339 that? Mine's 8 .2. Mine's 4 .8. Yeah, sours are 00:05:25.339 --> 00:05:27.800 usually lighter. I would say in a different multiverse, 00:05:27.980 --> 00:05:32.540 this is 4 or 5%. Okay. Speaking of multiverse. 00:05:32.819 --> 00:05:35.920 All right. You guys are welcome. You missed my 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:38.899 segues. This is true. I liked it. Yeah, so. I 00:05:38.899 --> 00:05:42.889 love your segues in every universe, Mike. Except 00:05:42.889 --> 00:05:45.529 not the one where you ride your Segway off the 00:05:45.529 --> 00:05:47.949 cliff. No, not that one. There is definitely 00:05:47.949 --> 00:05:50.490 probably a multiverse. I wish they used that 00:05:50.490 --> 00:05:56.529 line on a better couple. Yeah, I agree. I agree. 00:05:56.750 --> 00:05:59.529 Hard agree. Yeah, it is tough with that one. 00:05:59.709 --> 00:06:01.889 So Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, 00:06:01.990 --> 00:06:03.850 obviously that's what we're talking about. We're 00:06:03.850 --> 00:06:06.110 also going to get into some MCU future stuff 00:06:06.110 --> 00:06:09.689 as well as maybe some Moon Knight. I'm going 00:06:09.689 --> 00:06:12.720 to put it out there. Big spoiler warning. We 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:15.439 are going to release this the Thursday after 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.279 its second weekend. People should have seen it 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:20.639 by then. But just in case you haven't, big spoiler 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:22.240 warning. We're going to talk about everything 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:25.800 about it. Every little plot point. Every little 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:29.180 everything. So huge spoiler warning. We'll see 00:06:29.180 --> 00:06:30.899 you next episode. If you haven't seen it yet, 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:32.959 come back when you've seen the movie. Same with 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:37.279 WandaVision. Same with WandaVision. Yes. So that 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:43.139 brings us to the movie itself. Yeah. We have... 00:06:43.139 --> 00:06:47.220 Wow, this is so dramatic. I know. I just realized 00:06:47.220 --> 00:06:48.939 I don't even know if Mike likes this movie or 00:06:48.939 --> 00:06:51.180 not. I'm kind of curious. Oh, okay. I have thoughts. 00:06:51.540 --> 00:06:54.779 I didn't... Yeah, I don't know. So I'll start 00:06:54.779 --> 00:06:57.079 with the thought that I had at the end of the 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:00.480 movie. Okay. And this is as a big -time Raimi 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:03.959 fan, as a big fan of Benedict Cumberbatch as 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:07.279 Doctor Strange, I would have rather had Iron 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:11.019 Man 4 than Doctor Strange 2. Ooh. Like Tom Cruise 00:07:11.019 --> 00:07:13.319 Iron Man? No, like... Wait, wait, wait. What 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:16.839 do you mean? Like RDJ back. Like Iron Man 4. 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:20.779 Didn't need it. Okay, okay. Explain yourself, 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:24.519 I guess. I just... If we were going to continue 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.220 the Marvel Cinematic Universe, I would have rather 00:07:27.220 --> 00:07:31.500 Doctor Strange died taking out Thanos than Iron 00:07:31.500 --> 00:07:34.199 Man. Well, all right. I mean, okay, if you kill 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:36.800 Doctor Strange, if Doctor Strange says, I am 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:39.540 Doctor Strange, or whatever, snap. That moment 00:07:39.540 --> 00:07:41.680 doesn't work as well. No, it's not, I am Doctor 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:45.199 Strange. It's, I knew this was happening. We're 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:47.660 in the endgame now. I just thought it was strange. 00:07:48.259 --> 00:07:56.459 Oh. Okay. That sucks. That fucking sucks. You 00:07:56.459 --> 00:07:58.480 can't kill Doctor Strange when he has one movie. 00:07:58.740 --> 00:08:00.879 No, you couldn't. And a couple of cameos and 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:02.639 have it have the same weight. It would be a little 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:04.480 radical. Well, it would be, well, no, you know 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:05.519 what it would be? It would be the Quicksilver 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:07.240 death in Age of Ultron, where it's just like, 00:08:07.339 --> 00:08:09.339 all right, cool, I don't really care, you know, 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:12.399 like. Yeah. He came and went, literally. Yeah. 00:08:12.819 --> 00:08:15.399 He did. And then we got a different person in 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:18.019 WandaVision. Yeah. But that was a different. 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:20.560 Oh, I love Evan Peters. There's nothing against 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:22.399 Evan Peters. Nothing against Aaron Taylor -Johnson, 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:25.360 but Evan Peters is a better, fills out the character. 00:08:25.420 --> 00:08:28.899 Okay, so what you're telling me is that you did 00:08:28.899 --> 00:08:31.019 not like this movie. No, I'm not saying that 00:08:31.019 --> 00:08:36.059 at all. Okay. I would have rather had. I still 00:08:36.059 --> 00:08:38.100 enjoyed the movie. You didn't need more for this 00:08:38.100 --> 00:08:42.940 character. What was that? Yeah, because I don't 00:08:42.940 --> 00:08:44.620 know where to read it, right? Yeah, you're welcome. 00:08:44.779 --> 00:08:47.440 To me, my interpretation is you just didn't need 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:50.240 more Doctor Strange stuff. I did not. He works 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:52.460 best in the ensemble. You don't need a standalone. 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:55.539 I don't know. I think this standalone sold me... 00:08:55.539 --> 00:08:58.519 This movie sold me on the concept of a standalone 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:00.919 Doctor Strange because I was kind of of the mind... 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:02.840 And granted, I've only seen both films one time. 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:05.320 Doctor Strange 1... Oh, you've only seen Doctor 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:08.940 Strange 1? Yeah. Doctor Strange 1, I don't super 00:09:08.940 --> 00:09:11.620 love because it's just... Okay, magical Iron 00:09:11.620 --> 00:09:13.460 Man. That's a common criticism, right? It's a 00:09:13.460 --> 00:09:15.639 very similar origin story to Iron Man. I feel 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:19.720 like I've seen it before. This one, you definitely 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:22.139 can't say it isn't unique from the rest of the 00:09:22.139 --> 00:09:25.700 MCU, right? Oh, definitely. This is just funny, 00:09:25.740 --> 00:09:28.779 so I need to stop you because I looked up Aaron 00:09:28.779 --> 00:09:31.200 Taylor Johnson's IMDb to see what's next for 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:34.659 him. He's Kraven. He's Kraven, yes. And I forgot 00:09:34.659 --> 00:09:36.539 about that until I looked it up. He's not done 00:09:36.539 --> 00:09:41.649 with the MCU. He's also on Bullet Train. Yes. 00:09:41.649 --> 00:09:43.690 That's another thing that I'm excited for. Regarding 00:09:43.690 --> 00:09:47.769 Doctor Strange, I liked Doctor Strange and the 00:09:47.769 --> 00:09:51.169 Multiverse of Madness. I have some feelings about 00:09:51.169 --> 00:09:53.710 the plotting and how they got a character to 00:09:53.710 --> 00:09:55.909 a certain point. We'll get there. But I actually 00:09:55.909 --> 00:09:58.409 think the best Doctor Strange outing is his animated 00:09:58.409 --> 00:10:03.779 short in the What If series. Okay. Supreme. Yeah, 00:10:03.779 --> 00:10:05.700 when we get to see what happens if he loses, 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:08.720 instead of he loses his hands, he loses his heart, 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:12.059 and he goes down Doctor Strange breaking bad. 00:10:12.340 --> 00:10:15.779 Yeah, right. I thought that was really interesting 00:10:15.779 --> 00:10:17.679 and compelling for the character and really took 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:20.440 advantage of what you could do. This first outing 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.720 is pretty forgettable. I don't know if I needed 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:27.779 Iron Man 4, but I am kind of confirmed that Doctor 00:10:27.779 --> 00:10:30.779 Strange is the least interesting part of Doctor 00:10:30.779 --> 00:10:35.480 Strange in the multiverse of Madness. Wow. I 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.940 wanted to spend more time with the villain, who 00:10:39.940 --> 00:10:44.169 is Wanda. Yay. Yes. Which Claire didn't know 00:10:44.169 --> 00:10:45.929 that Wanda was the villain. She thought there 00:10:45.929 --> 00:10:49.389 was going to be this riff, but that they would 00:10:49.389 --> 00:10:52.230 team up by the end and fight the bigger bad. 00:10:52.549 --> 00:10:54.169 Sure. And that's what the trailers kind of made 00:10:54.169 --> 00:10:56.169 it out to be. Yeah, right. So good on the trailers. 00:10:56.590 --> 00:10:58.970 I just didn't expect it to happen so quickly. 00:10:59.110 --> 00:11:01.809 That's my big bugaboo. Wow, they got this going 00:11:01.809 --> 00:11:03.889 really quick. And I didn't feel like there was 00:11:03.889 --> 00:11:08.009 a satisfactory bridge between where we left her 00:11:08.009 --> 00:11:11.220 in WandaVision and where... She begins. And the 00:11:11.220 --> 00:11:14.059 way that it's been explained in press and things 00:11:14.059 --> 00:11:16.360 is that, no, the Darkhold has corrupted her. 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:19.840 Right. Sure, that's fine. It explains it, but 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:23.559 it seems very rushed. I disagree. I like the 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:25.799 fact that we dropped the pretense of like, okay, 00:11:25.860 --> 00:11:29.059 yes, she's the big bad. We have to deal with 00:11:29.059 --> 00:11:31.379 her right now. I figured it was going to happen 00:11:31.379 --> 00:11:33.179 in the third act, and then we were going to take 00:11:33.179 --> 00:11:35.120 a while to build up there. I have no problem 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:38.299 with them making her the villain, or even getting 00:11:38.299 --> 00:11:39.899 to the point of her being a villain. I just feel 00:11:39.899 --> 00:11:42.220 like I missed a 15 -minute short. Excuse me. 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:45.559 A 15 -minute short or something that kind of 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:50.139 further... pulled her towards the place she is 00:11:50.139 --> 00:11:53.480 at the beginning of the film my thing is they 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:56.059 and this goes back to one of my biggest criticisms 00:11:56.059 --> 00:11:59.700 of wandavision she should have ended that series 00:11:59.700 --> 00:12:02.559 as unequivocally a villain character in the mcu 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:05.399 yeah yeah they left it very gray yeah they left 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:13.419 it kind of open It's just like, okay, she did 00:12:13.419 --> 00:12:15.320 what she did and now she's going to go off and 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.720 study this dark book and reconjure up her magical 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.159 children. So I agree with Jill. It kind of looks, 00:12:22.259 --> 00:12:25.759 it feels weird. I think it's fixable if they 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:28.620 had done the end of the series correctly and 00:12:28.620 --> 00:12:31.000 then you jump into Multiverse of Madness. That 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:33.000 was kind of like my big thing as well. Which 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:36.309 is so true because WandaVision is one of my favorites 00:12:36.309 --> 00:12:38.730 of the Marvel shows. I don't know exactly where 00:12:38.730 --> 00:12:40.409 it is on the list because I'm still laying Moon 00:12:40.409 --> 00:12:43.009 Knight Digest before I say, okay, this is this. 00:12:43.129 --> 00:12:46.220 But it's definitely in top three easily. They 00:12:46.220 --> 00:12:48.559 butchered the ending. Yeah, the ending is one 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:50.659 of the worst. Exactly. I would say, dovetailing 00:12:50.659 --> 00:12:52.820 into that, it is kind of a catch -22 where I 00:12:52.820 --> 00:12:54.440 feel like you need to watch WandaVision to see 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:56.120 this, right? Because if you don't, then you have 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:58.980 no idea why Wanda has gone totally tilted. Yep. 00:12:59.580 --> 00:13:01.620 Totally tilted. But at the same time, it feels 00:13:01.620 --> 00:13:04.360 like the end of her arc is the same exact spot 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:06.659 that WandaVision was at, if that makes sense, 00:13:06.700 --> 00:13:08.980 right? Like, the whole final episode of her saying 00:13:08.980 --> 00:13:11.340 goodbye to her kids basically was the same exact 00:13:11.340 --> 00:13:13.990 emotional beat. that this movie ends on. And 00:13:13.990 --> 00:13:15.470 so that's where I kind of feel like, oh, okay, 00:13:15.509 --> 00:13:16.830 really? This is how we're wrapping this up? Like, 00:13:16.870 --> 00:13:20.429 sure, it's satisfying in this movie in a vacuum, 00:13:20.570 --> 00:13:22.190 right? But you can't watch this movie in a vacuum, 00:13:22.289 --> 00:13:24.190 if that makes sense. No, and that's exactly it. 00:13:24.289 --> 00:13:27.230 And speaking of the end, yes, we're jumping ahead, 00:13:27.370 --> 00:13:29.690 but speaking of the end, because you said that, 00:13:29.730 --> 00:13:31.990 it feels wrapped up. Let's just get something 00:13:31.990 --> 00:13:35.350 out of the way. Is Scarlet Witch dead? No, no. 00:13:35.350 --> 00:13:38.289 She signed a seven -year contract. Hell no. Yeah, 00:13:38.370 --> 00:13:40.600 all right. I just wanted to get that out of the 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:42.919 way because I think we all felt that way. If 00:13:42.919 --> 00:13:44.740 it wasn't public knowledge that she signed a 00:13:44.740 --> 00:13:47.779 seven -year contract, sure. Yeah. Oh, guessing. 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:50.220 Even that, though. Like, even that. I didn't 00:13:50.220 --> 00:13:53.159 feel like... Yeah, Marvel's... We're going to 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:55.039 talk about, like, the future of the MCU. Yeah. 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:58.820 But they have spent so much time developing Wanda. 00:13:58.980 --> 00:14:02.259 Yeah. There are fans of Wanda. Like, they don't 00:14:02.259 --> 00:14:04.019 call her Scarlet Witch. They call her Wanda. 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:06.539 Right, right. And she is, I would say, one of 00:14:06.539 --> 00:14:08.720 the more popular characters. that's still part 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:11.080 of the MCU. I'm taking out Captain America. I'm 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:13.620 taking out Iron Man. They are in a position where 00:14:13.620 --> 00:14:16.120 they have to maintain characters that people 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:19.179 are invested in and want to see the next chapter 00:14:19.179 --> 00:14:21.080 in their story, whether it's a standalone movie 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:24.659 or just them being in the ensemble. And Wanda, 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:29.200 at this point in 2022, she's up there. She's 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:30.919 one of the top characters that you're invested 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:34.000 in. I'm still invested in her character, and 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:37.159 even if they bring... a different multiverse 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:40.919 dimension Wanda in to kind of justify killing 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:43.860 our version of her. Fine. I want to see, I want 00:14:43.860 --> 00:14:46.000 to continue to see the stories they do with her. 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.100 Yeah. And that's kind of that we fall into the 00:14:48.100 --> 00:14:50.279 trap of, okay, now the multiverse is open. If 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:51.840 we ever want to kill off a character, we can 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:53.919 just yank another one from another, you know. 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:56.620 Pluck another. Yeah, exactly. Here's 7 -1000. 00:14:58.649 --> 00:15:02.590 Wanda. So we lost 616 Wanda? 616 Wanda is technically... 00:15:02.590 --> 00:15:04.750 I don't think you'd think she's actually gone, 00:15:04.850 --> 00:15:07.809 but yes. We'll find out. She's predisposed at 00:15:07.809 --> 00:15:11.029 the moment. Yes, yes. Alright, so one of the 00:15:11.029 --> 00:15:13.769 other things that I wanted to address with this 00:15:13.769 --> 00:15:18.370 movie, how do we feel about the multiverse in 00:15:18.370 --> 00:15:22.210 general? And especially, we have to get to some 00:15:22.210 --> 00:15:25.269 characters that are included in this multiverse. 00:15:25.470 --> 00:15:29.639 Yep, yep, yep. I mean, do we feel like the multiverse 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:34.320 is well -defined at this point? I mean, it is 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:35.360 and it isn't. It's got some little pockets in 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:37.620 there. Yeah. Well, I thought they did a pretty 00:15:37.620 --> 00:15:40.039 good job of... you know, keeping the rules very 00:15:40.039 --> 00:15:42.100 loose. So it can be, it can be surprising, but 00:15:42.100 --> 00:15:44.679 they also had, you know, some fun rules. Like, 00:15:44.740 --> 00:15:46.259 you know, they introduced, they did a good job, 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:48.139 I think introducing the concept and building 00:15:48.139 --> 00:15:50.100 on the concept of dreamwalking. Right. Yeah. 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:53.159 Like that was really fun. And it kind of like, 00:15:53.179 --> 00:15:55.240 it made sense to the odd, at least to me, I wasn't 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:56.720 like, okay, this is like, I'm kind of losing 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:58.899 the plot here or whatever. No. And then it led 00:15:58.899 --> 00:16:00.580 to that really fun moment of like, you're going 00:16:00.580 --> 00:16:02.940 to dreamwalk. You're not at the, like, there's 00:16:02.940 --> 00:16:04.700 no, there's no version of you in the universe. 00:16:04.820 --> 00:16:07.940 Not alive. Yeah. Led to that fun moment. Oh, 00:16:08.139 --> 00:16:10.419 Okay, cool. Dude, Zombie Strange. That was cool. 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:12.639 That was not what I was expecting was going to 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:14.659 happen with that character. No, and it totally 00:16:14.659 --> 00:16:16.519 makes sense in a Raimi movie now that I think 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:18.779 about it. Absolutely. But Zombie Strange was 00:16:18.779 --> 00:16:21.450 unexpected. Yeah. Yeah. And, like, I was worried 00:16:21.450 --> 00:16:23.990 that it was going to be a cameo fest, and it 00:16:23.990 --> 00:16:25.850 kind of is in a way, and we can talk about that 00:16:25.850 --> 00:16:28.450 when we get there. But, like, I was worried that 00:16:28.450 --> 00:16:31.129 it was going to just be a setup for a bunch of 00:16:31.129 --> 00:16:32.769 other characters. You know what I mean? I was 00:16:32.769 --> 00:16:34.370 worried this was going to kind of Age of Ultron 00:16:34.370 --> 00:16:37.149 up a bunch of other subplots, but it didn't, 00:16:37.149 --> 00:16:39.490 you know? And it was clear Raimi and, you know, 00:16:39.509 --> 00:16:41.350 the screenwriters had a lot of fun with the concept, 00:16:41.529 --> 00:16:43.169 and they kind of wrapped it up a little bit. 00:16:43.190 --> 00:16:44.669 I don't know. So I'm going to pose a question 00:16:44.669 --> 00:16:47.320 to the group here. Mm -hmm. Is anyone starting 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:50.419 to feel a multiverse fatigue because the multiverse 00:16:50.419 --> 00:16:54.139 is a bit of a hot theme to do in movies? I've 00:16:54.139 --> 00:16:56.639 got thoughts here. So I'll say this. I love this 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:59.759 movie. I gave it an 8 out of 10. Honestly, the 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:02.480 premiere glow of it probably gave it up to 8. 00:17:02.500 --> 00:17:06.339 It should be a 7 .5. Sure, yeah. But I will say 00:17:06.339 --> 00:17:09.460 my biggest... Oh, hey, kitty cat. My biggest 00:17:09.460 --> 00:17:12.579 gripe with the movie is the... And really, Phase 00:17:12.579 --> 00:17:15.859 4 in general, how it's treating... multiversal 00:17:15.859 --> 00:17:18.200 storytelling. And Mike, we talked about this 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:20.980 when we were texting last week. Yeah. I feel 00:17:20.980 --> 00:17:23.220 like there's no stakes because they're not legitimately 00:17:23.220 --> 00:17:26.180 investing in characters within the multiverse. 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:29.019 And here's what I mean by this. We meet Reed 00:17:29.019 --> 00:17:31.119 Richards for the very first time in the MCU, 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:33.539 played by John Krasinski, straight out of fan 00:17:33.539 --> 00:17:37.319 casting IMDb, right? Which is okay. I was for 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:40.380 it. I'm for it. Sure. I loved it. That moment, 00:17:40.500 --> 00:17:42.880 that was the loudest reaction in theater that 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:45.140 I was in when that happened. That was louder 00:17:45.140 --> 00:17:49.759 than... uh, Professor X for my theory. This is 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.940 why, this is why, this is, yeah, this is why 00:17:52.940 --> 00:17:54.839 we gotta watch, we gotta watch MCU movies when 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:56.279 they premiere, right? Because the loudest moment 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:58.539 was really during the emotional climax when somebody, 00:17:58.700 --> 00:18:00.859 we watched it a week late and somebody literally 00:18:00.859 --> 00:18:03.740 took a phone call in the middle of when, um, 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:06.599 Christine and, well, it was, it was during the 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:08.640 scene where we had just resolved the conflict 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:11.660 and Christine and, and Strange were having their 00:18:11.660 --> 00:18:14.920 conversation and, and like, the guy took a fucking 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:16.839 phone call. And it wasn't, like oh hey can i 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:19.480 call you back no it's like oh hey how's it going 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:26.619 sorry to derail that but we're gonna watch thor 00:18:26.619 --> 00:18:28.359 love and thunder i think opening weekend so we 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:33.319 yeah no absolutely anyways uh yes so just to 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:36.579 finish the point here i don't like this new thing 00:18:36.579 --> 00:18:39.200 that i'm noticing in the mcu where they bring 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:41.500 back evan peters as quicksilver only to make 00:18:41.500 --> 00:18:44.099 a ralph boner joke right bring back some of these 00:18:44.099 --> 00:18:47.380 iconic characters with In some cases, new actors. 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:50.700 In other cases, it's awesome to see a live -action 00:18:50.700 --> 00:18:53.859 version of Captain Carter, and only to have them 00:18:53.859 --> 00:18:56.740 disposed of pretty quickly after. And I'm like, 00:18:56.779 --> 00:18:59.220 okay, this feels cheap. Why are we investing 00:18:59.220 --> 00:19:02.500 this kind of, I don't know, any kind of resources 00:19:02.500 --> 00:19:05.759 into this? The only multiversal thing that I 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:09.059 think worked... is Spider -Man No Way Home. And 00:19:09.059 --> 00:19:11.339 it's because it legitimately served the story. 00:19:11.660 --> 00:19:14.519 Tom Holland's Spider -Man forever changes because 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:17.059 of what happens in that movie. And he's living 00:19:17.059 --> 00:19:20.460 with the consequences of his choices and all 00:19:20.460 --> 00:19:22.420 the stuff that happened in the plot up until 00:19:22.420 --> 00:19:26.059 the very end. And I was like, wow, this is legitimately 00:19:26.059 --> 00:19:27.980 a good movie and I can't wait to see the next 00:19:27.980 --> 00:19:30.700 chapter. With this, I'm just like, okay, they 00:19:30.700 --> 00:19:32.779 keep introducing new characters, but to what 00:19:32.779 --> 00:19:38.130 end? What is the bigger plot? Well, I have thoughts 00:19:38.130 --> 00:19:42.569 on phase four in general. Yeah. But to me, and 00:19:42.569 --> 00:19:45.529 this is totally just speculation on my part. 00:19:45.589 --> 00:19:48.390 Right. Um, so not, I don't know. I don't have 00:19:48.390 --> 00:19:50.029 any insight or info or anything like that. It 00:19:50.029 --> 00:19:51.769 felt like that whole entire second act. Like 00:19:51.769 --> 00:19:53.829 it was like Kevin fight. Like it was almost like 00:19:53.829 --> 00:19:56.329 the producers were saying, Hey, like we need 00:19:56.329 --> 00:19:57.849 to get some cameos in here. We need to get, we 00:19:57.849 --> 00:19:59.950 need to get some fan moments for people to go. 00:20:00.029 --> 00:20:02.170 Whoa. And that's the thing too. So one of the 00:20:02.170 --> 00:20:04.009 things I was thinking at the end of the movie, 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:06.960 going, hey, we gave you John Krasinski as Reed 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:09.539 Richards for the one movie. Right. We gave you 00:20:09.539 --> 00:20:11.420 Professor X. I actually hope that's not the one 00:20:11.420 --> 00:20:14.920 movie. I hope not either, but it feels like that 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:17.299 could be... This is it. This could be it for 00:20:17.299 --> 00:20:19.480 some of these. And it's just like that whole 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:21.259 entire second act kind of feels like it was made 00:20:21.259 --> 00:20:23.259 by a different person, if that makes sense, right? 00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:26.160 Like, it doesn't... I don't really feel like 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:27.619 that movie gets back on the rails. Second of 00:20:27.619 --> 00:20:29.920 three, right? Or you're saying the whole second 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:33.509 act? What do you mean second of? Divide the film 00:20:33.509 --> 00:20:35.849 into parts. Divide the film into parts. I'm basically 00:20:35.849 --> 00:20:38.049 saying the whole entire section with the Illuminati, 00:20:38.109 --> 00:20:41.390 right? Where they're talking. Up until they're 00:20:41.390 --> 00:20:45.069 introduced, until they get jobbed by Wanda. That 00:20:45.069 --> 00:20:49.930 whole part felt off to me. I was like, because 00:20:49.930 --> 00:20:52.059 I was thinking... I was thinking you were saying 00:20:52.059 --> 00:20:54.140 the entire second act, and I was just like... 00:20:54.140 --> 00:20:55.420 I guess that's true. No, not that. Zombie Strange 00:20:55.420 --> 00:20:57.359 is definitely rated. That's the third act. You 00:20:57.359 --> 00:20:58.920 know, that's the thing. That's what I'm saying. 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:02.160 Second or third act. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:05.519 Up until... So, like, basically, as soon as Patrick 00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:07.440 Stewart shows up on screen until he gets killed, 00:21:07.579 --> 00:21:09.980 that's the part where I feel like, what? Like, 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:11.799 this movie feels a little different now. Not 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:13.759 in a bad way, but more like, okay, this is what 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:16.599 I expected. Cameo fest. Oh, hey, we might... 00:21:16.599 --> 00:21:19.400 See, this guy, we, you know, we put this guy 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:21.029 in the movie. I also want... want to say that 00:21:21.029 --> 00:21:25.250 i'm tired of seeing professor x die yeah i'm 00:21:25.250 --> 00:21:27.390 kind of annoyed he didn't really do much except 00:21:27.390 --> 00:21:29.710 say something from the i thought that was kind 00:21:29.710 --> 00:21:33.910 of cool whatever again it was it was it was all 00:21:33.910 --> 00:21:36.450 worth it because god damn it as soon as he reeled 00:21:36.450 --> 00:21:41.269 on screen the x -men um cartoon theme stung at 00:21:41.269 --> 00:21:43.690 this and i was like god fucking damn it you guys 00:21:43.690 --> 00:21:50.759 got me shit i'm so ready for x -men box movies 00:21:50.759 --> 00:21:53.880 but they purposely went with that i really think 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:56.000 and all the stuff i've been reading about x -men 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:58.759 97 when it's rebooted for disney plus yeah the 00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:02.279 folks who are working on it are very very invested 00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:04.940 in terms of how it's going to tie into other 00:22:04.940 --> 00:22:08.440 things in marvel and maybe that's just like a 00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:11.059 little little tiny little tiny nugget little 00:22:11.059 --> 00:22:14.400 guy yeah there could be a jump from cartoon to 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:16.980 live action from that series i would love that 00:22:17.950 --> 00:22:19.769 I think what you were saying with No Way Home, 00:22:19.930 --> 00:22:23.390 I think besides the fact that what you were saying, 00:22:23.470 --> 00:22:26.150 that Tom Holland's Peter Parker progressively 00:22:26.150 --> 00:22:28.789 has changed across every movie. He's always in 00:22:28.789 --> 00:22:30.390 a slightly different place than where he is. 00:22:31.130 --> 00:22:36.150 But No Way Home also has the advantage of giving 00:22:36.150 --> 00:22:39.329 us multidimensional, multiverse characters that 00:22:39.329 --> 00:22:44.480 we already know. and care about versus... Okay, 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:47.579 we have Professor X. Some people care about him. 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:53.420 But John Krasinski, the... Oh, gosh. Black Bolt. 00:22:53.940 --> 00:22:58.420 Black Bolt. Captain Marvel. Captain Carter. Well, 00:22:58.440 --> 00:23:00.420 Captain... Carter's an interesting one in the 00:23:00.420 --> 00:23:01.700 sense that it's really cool to see her being 00:23:01.700 --> 00:23:03.960 live. It's Peggy. Yeah. It was great to see her 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:05.960 back again and I did not expect that. Right. 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:08.319 But with the exception of those two, it's like, 00:23:08.380 --> 00:23:10.539 okay, cool. John Krasinski. Oh, cool. This Black 00:23:10.539 --> 00:23:12.220 Bolt guy. I don't read comics. I don't know who 00:23:12.220 --> 00:23:14.039 this guy is. And then seeing... Well, and the 00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:17.140 TV show lasted for all of like three episodes 00:23:17.140 --> 00:23:19.440 because there was a TV show that was brought 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:22.680 in humans. Oh, he was in Inhumans. Okay. Yeah. 00:23:22.940 --> 00:23:28.119 And then seeing Monica Rambeau as as Captain 00:23:28.119 --> 00:23:31.500 Marvel was really cool, but besides the fact 00:23:31.500 --> 00:23:33.660 that they were very disposable, obviously, I 00:23:33.660 --> 00:23:37.259 didn't really care. And even with Professor Xavier, 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:39.640 I didn't know he was going to die, but I definitely 00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:42.079 knew this was it. He was not coming back. Yeah. 00:23:42.099 --> 00:23:47.119 Yeah. Yeah. We should talk about America Chavez. 00:23:47.380 --> 00:23:49.200 We should talk about America Chavez. Well, I 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:51.740 just want to say one more thing about this part, 00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:56.730 the Illuminati. I just forgot my thought. Were 00:23:56.730 --> 00:23:59.170 you guys buying into the theories that Tom Cruise 00:23:59.170 --> 00:24:01.950 is going to show up as Iron Man? No. That's what 00:24:01.950 --> 00:24:07.130 it was. That's what it was. I got it now. Do 00:24:07.130 --> 00:24:10.130 you guys feel the trailer ruined some of the 00:24:10.130 --> 00:24:12.809 fun with that? Because they did bring up the 00:24:12.809 --> 00:24:16.730 Illuminati. They shouldn't have shown the Ultron 00:24:16.730 --> 00:24:19.029 robots and they shouldn't have. They shouldn't 00:24:19.029 --> 00:24:20.630 have put in... I didn't mind the Ultron robots. 00:24:20.849 --> 00:24:22.089 I just thought that was kind of... They should 00:24:22.089 --> 00:24:26.130 have put his ear and his voice in that. Yes, 00:24:26.130 --> 00:24:27.710 right, right, right. They should not have had 00:24:27.710 --> 00:24:29.190 Patrick Stewart's voice in that. They already 00:24:29.190 --> 00:24:31.490 showed Mordu coming back. They should have just 00:24:31.490 --> 00:24:34.519 done more with Mordu. Yeah. Fine. Mordo. Mordo. 00:24:34.700 --> 00:24:37.920 Mordo. Sure. The one that got me, too, because 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:39.400 you said that you didn't know Captain Carter 00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:42.039 was in it. In the last trailer revealed, there 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:44.180 was a moment where Captain Carter's shield was 00:24:44.180 --> 00:24:45.900 flung into the wall. Oh, was it? I missed it. 00:24:46.940 --> 00:24:48.700 It's a blink and you miss it thing. Sure. Yeah, 00:24:48.700 --> 00:24:50.500 it's a blink and you miss it thing. But, like, 00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:52.759 as I'm seeing it, I'm going, did we really just 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:54.779 see this already? Yeah. Like, Captain Carter 00:24:54.779 --> 00:24:56.380 now? Yeah. And they did that trailer, like, a 00:24:56.380 --> 00:24:57.819 week or two before it came out. I didn't watch 00:24:57.819 --> 00:25:00.640 it on purpose to avoid it. It was 100%, like, 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:04.299 a week before, saying, Boom. This is, this is 00:25:04.299 --> 00:25:06.980 what's happening. Yeah. I wanted on that. Yeah. 00:25:07.140 --> 00:25:09.940 So, all right, let's talk American. I'll just 00:25:09.940 --> 00:25:11.819 say, I'll just say from a business standpoint, 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:14.480 I like from a creative standpoint, I agree from 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:16.940 a business standpoint, the fact that you sprinkle 00:25:16.940 --> 00:25:19.539 that in, that's how you're able to get right 00:25:19.539 --> 00:25:21.900 now. They have over half a billion in box office. 00:25:21.980 --> 00:25:27.740 Yeah. And the argument. can be made it's on the 00:25:27.740 --> 00:25:30.339 viewer to make the choice well depending it's 00:25:30.339 --> 00:25:32.680 on the viewer to typically make the choice of 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:35.720 not choosing to click watch the trailer right 00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:37.920 but if you were in a scenario such as a movie 00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:40.880 theater and it comes on what are you gonna do 00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:43.200 you know like i said i i think i think they thread 00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:44.960 the needle pretty well because i mean circling 00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:46.640 back like they didn't spoil the water was the 00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:49.200 villain right like yes you know like that was 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:51.319 all that yeah like the didn't spoil like that 00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:52.880 was a fun surprise because you know who the villain 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.150 was supposed to be right no mephisto mephisto 00:25:56.150 --> 00:26:00.349 everything's mephisto that's the thing like that 00:26:00.349 --> 00:26:02.549 i didn't i didn't i didn't get spoiled on this 00:26:02.549 --> 00:26:04.329 on the movie per se but as soon as the movie 00:26:04.329 --> 00:26:05.950 came out and then like like some people were 00:26:05.950 --> 00:26:07.890 like i really love this movie and other people 00:26:07.890 --> 00:26:10.710 were like this is just the worst mcu movie i've 00:26:10.710 --> 00:26:12.950 seen in a while and i'm like okay got it so tom 00:26:12.950 --> 00:26:14.930 cruise and mephisto aren't in this movie got 00:26:14.930 --> 00:26:17.670 it yeah done like i knew that one like people 00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:20.779 People that saw this that didn't like it, a lot 00:26:20.779 --> 00:26:23.680 of them are not Raimi fans. Right. Right. Yes. 00:26:23.819 --> 00:26:25.559 And I knew it was going to be at least wacky. 00:26:25.579 --> 00:26:27.960 Yeah. Exactly. I went and braced for wackiness. 00:26:27.980 --> 00:26:29.720 Yes. And I got it. All right. We got to talk 00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:31.559 America Chavez. You're right. I'm worried she'll 00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:33.859 get forgotten. She's not going to get forgotten. 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:37.700 No way. Trust me. So I like the fact that they 00:26:37.700 --> 00:26:40.599 gave her something that was she's struggling 00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:43.140 with her power. Yeah. Something like that because 00:26:43.140 --> 00:26:45.960 then it just doesn't solve it right away. But 00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:48.710 at the same time. One of the things I felt could 00:26:48.710 --> 00:26:51.569 have been done, if Wanda's the same in every 00:26:51.569 --> 00:26:55.029 universe, where she has to kill the Wanda that's 00:26:55.029 --> 00:26:57.869 there in front of the kids, like the ending did, 00:26:58.009 --> 00:27:00.690 it doesn't matter that America can't control 00:27:00.690 --> 00:27:03.009 her power. Just take her to any multiverse, show 00:27:03.009 --> 00:27:06.329 her this, we're done. Yeah, no, if she had gotten 00:27:06.329 --> 00:27:10.049 what she wanted and somehow America managed to 00:27:10.049 --> 00:27:13.029 open the portal willingly or involuntarily, we 00:27:13.029 --> 00:27:15.349 still would have ended up in that, where we were. 00:27:15.410 --> 00:27:18.220 There was very little... That could have derailed 00:27:18.220 --> 00:27:22.539 Wanda from the epiphany that she has unless they 00:27:22.539 --> 00:27:26.140 pushed her even darker. Where it's, I don't want 00:27:26.140 --> 00:27:29.099 to move to a dimension to be with my children 00:27:29.099 --> 00:27:31.319 so I can be their mother. It's, I want to move 00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:33.339 to a dimension so I can have my children, put 00:27:33.339 --> 00:27:37.240 them in a cage, and nothing can hurt them. That 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.099 would be the next step. I mean, yes, that would 00:27:41.099 --> 00:27:43.920 be the next step. But then there's the line of, 00:27:43.980 --> 00:27:46.539 okay, we can eventually pull her back to being 00:27:46.539 --> 00:27:50.019 a hero, get her back on the lunchbox. Or it's, 00:27:50.019 --> 00:27:52.299 nope, she's off the lunchbox forever, and now 00:27:52.299 --> 00:27:54.759 she is the villain costume you buy your kids. 00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:59.559 That was a fun one. As dumb Marvel quips go, 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:02.000 that was a fun one. You're officially off the 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:08.759 lunchbox. I'll say this. Just as we have seen 00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:12.579 with other very popular villains, the Joker has 00:28:12.579 --> 00:28:15.140 a lunchbox. You know what I mean? Yep. It's true. 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.180 You're not wrong. It's true. She could have her 00:28:18.180 --> 00:28:21.180 own lunchbox. You got a lot of neckbeards going 00:28:21.180 --> 00:28:22.420 around me like, I'm the Joker, baby. But she's 00:28:22.420 --> 00:28:25.440 not on the Wheaties box. Hey, I'm all for putting 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:28.400 Elizabeth Olsen on a lunchbox, on a cooler. Put 00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:34.079 Elizabeth Olsen in Mortal Kombat. Let's go. They 00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:36.720 don't have that. Unfortunately, that's WB. Or 00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:38.299 at least for now, there's rumors that they're 00:28:38.299 --> 00:28:39.460 going to sell another round of the guys that 00:28:39.460 --> 00:28:41.000 make Mortal Kombat. But that's the reason DC 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.339 people show up. But anyways. Going back to America 00:28:43.339 --> 00:28:47.779 Chavez, I liked her a lot. I don't want to go 00:28:47.779 --> 00:28:49.980 too into what the future of the MCU is quite 00:28:49.980 --> 00:28:52.759 yet. Right. But I have questions about where 00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:56.799 is this going for her. I hope she gets to see 00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:59.529 her moms again. And I thought she actually, I 00:28:59.529 --> 00:29:01.430 don't want to say the actress's name incorrectly. 00:29:01.970 --> 00:29:03.470 I don't either. So I'm just going to keep referring 00:29:03.470 --> 00:29:06.789 to her as America Thomas. Sochi is, like, the 00:29:06.789 --> 00:29:12.950 widely, like, used one. Sochi Gomez. Sochi? Yeah, 00:29:13.049 --> 00:29:15.930 so they don't pronounce the L part, though probably 00:29:15.930 --> 00:29:19.180 it goes Sochido. But everyone just calls her... 00:29:19.180 --> 00:29:20.799 Like, they introduced her at the premiere as 00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:23.140 Xochitl Gomez. Okay, Xochitl Gomez. So, Xochitl 00:29:23.140 --> 00:29:25.119 Gomez, I thought she had really great chemistry 00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:27.579 with Benedict Cumberbatch. Yeah, right. I bought 00:29:27.579 --> 00:29:30.059 their relationship. I bought it, and then I bought... 00:29:30.059 --> 00:29:32.500 Some of the writing didn't work for me, but I 00:29:32.500 --> 00:29:35.319 think the acting worked well insofar as, like... 00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:37.319 The writing is never great. Yeah, right. But, 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:39.119 like, at the beginning, like, you know, she... 00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:42.099 You could buy that, okay... this Strange is different. 00:29:42.220 --> 00:29:45.380 You know what I mean? She's believing it. Believing 00:29:45.380 --> 00:29:47.700 in, hey, this person is not going to kill me 00:29:47.700 --> 00:29:49.559 when the chips are down. Better than Ponytail 00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:52.240 Strange. Yeah, right. Yes, right. I like this 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:53.779 person better than Ponytail Strange. Exactly. 00:29:54.140 --> 00:29:57.119 Ponytail Strange. Yeah. I just love the fact 00:29:57.119 --> 00:29:58.880 that we're going physical features and going 00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:01.859 that Strange. I mean, it's also Zombie Strange. 00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.380 There is Zombie Strange. What was the physical 00:30:04.380 --> 00:30:06.880 features of the guy that got, of the Strange 00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:10.099 that blipped the whole universe that got Mal? 00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:12.940 to death by Black, what's his name? Black Bolt. 00:30:12.980 --> 00:30:15.779 Black Bolt, yeah. What was his physical thing? 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:17.559 He had a beard. No, he didn't have a beard. He 00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:19.039 didn't have a beard. He was clean shaven. He 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:23.000 was clean shaven. Because our 616 strange has 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.640 the beard. Doesn't have a ponytail. Then the 00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:28.480 one who got yeeted has the ponytail. And then 00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:32.559 838 was the one who was clean shaven. And also 00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:36.099 got yeeted. And also got yeeted. Vaporized. Vaporized. 00:30:36.099 --> 00:30:40.319 Okay, whatever. Still, yeah. Yelled at. We should 00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:42.500 talk about Dr. Strange. Is he, as I said, the 00:30:42.500 --> 00:30:44.119 least interesting part of the series? Well, that's 00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:46.160 the funny thing is because we kind of fall into 00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:49.220 him last after talking about Wanda. I disagree, 00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:53.440 frankly. Okay, so first off, one of the big reasons 00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:55.779 I like this movie a lot is the opening act with 00:30:55.779 --> 00:30:58.500 the fight between him and Shuma Gorath. Okay. 00:30:58.660 --> 00:31:03.559 I love when superhero movies have clips of superheroes 00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:06.589 saving people. We need to have more, our superheroes 00:31:06.589 --> 00:31:09.009 need to save people, damn it, okay? So the whole 00:31:09.009 --> 00:31:11.049 entire idea of him getting, it's a cliche, but 00:31:11.049 --> 00:31:12.650 it's a cliche that I love, and I feel like I'm 00:31:12.650 --> 00:31:14.730 a little underserved at this point, of he's at 00:31:14.730 --> 00:31:16.509 that, he's at Christine's wedding, and oh God, 00:31:16.710 --> 00:31:18.990 I gotta, you know, there's trouble, I gotta suit 00:31:18.990 --> 00:31:20.529 up. The suit up was cool. Right, like gotta dive 00:31:20.529 --> 00:31:22.849 in and suit up, you know? The call to action, 00:31:22.970 --> 00:31:25.309 it's not just big purple man is showing up, we 00:31:25.309 --> 00:31:27.569 gotta fight, it's these people are in danger, 00:31:27.750 --> 00:31:31.009 I gotta go help them, you know? It's a smaller... 00:31:31.369 --> 00:31:33.789 conflict rather than it's on the and i like that 00:31:33.789 --> 00:31:36.250 i like that opening this is not an avengers level 00:31:36.250 --> 00:31:40.109 threat correct yes and i liked that opening fight 00:31:40.109 --> 00:31:42.789 scene so much that i went back and watched the 00:31:42.789 --> 00:31:45.769 ebony moth fight that he shows up in for the 00:31:45.769 --> 00:31:49.250 infinity war right and I don't know. Like, I 00:31:49.250 --> 00:31:51.450 feel like, I don't know if I credit this a lot 00:31:51.450 --> 00:31:53.509 to Sam Raimi or whatever, but, like, the way 00:31:53.509 --> 00:31:55.630 that he's framed and the way that his fight scenes 00:31:55.630 --> 00:31:58.170 is choreographed. Yeah, I guess so. You're right. 00:31:58.230 --> 00:32:00.829 Like, he just knows how to, I mean, whatever. 00:32:01.049 --> 00:32:02.730 He's a fanboy at heart. This is probably the 00:32:02.730 --> 00:32:04.430 most Spider -Man, this is probably the most Spider 00:32:04.430 --> 00:32:06.049 -Man -y scene out of the whole movie, right? 00:32:06.049 --> 00:32:08.869 What he does really well out of his movies is... 00:32:08.869 --> 00:32:12.569 He moves the camera! Well, that too. But he creates 00:32:12.569 --> 00:32:16.569 these mythical heroes. Yeah. Like, he made Ash. 00:32:17.019 --> 00:32:20.240 You know, Ash Williams exists because of Sam 00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.740 Raimi. My brain, you said Ash and pause. My brain 00:32:22.740 --> 00:32:25.680 was like, catch him? Yes. Ash Williams. I know, 00:32:25.740 --> 00:32:27.799 I know, I know. Got his start on the Pokemon 00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:29.640 anime. But that's the thing. It's like these 00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:31.880 characters, he brings them to the next level. 00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:35.559 They feel... Larger than life. Yeah, exactly. 00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:37.200 Larger than life. They feel bigger than they 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:38.940 are. You know, that kind of stuff. Right. And 00:32:38.940 --> 00:32:40.940 he does that very well. That's why Spider -Man, 00:32:40.980 --> 00:32:43.799 the first one at least, worked. Sure. And Spider 00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:45.980 -Man 2, I'll also argue, worked better because 00:32:45.980 --> 00:32:51.079 he made Doc Ock a sympathetic villain. Yeah, 00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:55.460 sure. But, yeah. And the parallels between Doc 00:32:55.460 --> 00:32:58.880 Ock and Peter Parker, even though they're not 00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:00.940 very similar, but, you know, it's like if you 00:33:00.940 --> 00:33:04.720 have a dream, you go for it. You know, it gets 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:09.180 corrupted. Yeah, no. I agree with Andre, though, 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:12.539 that the fight with Shima Gorath was pretty cool. 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:15.460 It's just like, I immediately bought that he's 00:33:15.460 --> 00:33:17.920 a superhero and he's not just the sorcerer. Well, 00:33:18.019 --> 00:33:19.400 I know he's not the sorcerer, but you know what 00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:21.380 I mean? I know he is, but you know what I mean? 00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.140 He's not just a wizard, you know what I mean? 00:33:24.180 --> 00:33:28.039 He is a hero. And I'll say, this may have been 00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.640 the best suit -up moment in the MCU. You think 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:39.049 so? I agree. And I'll say, shout out to Sam Raimi. 00:33:39.130 --> 00:33:43.170 He has a great eye for basically comic book storytelling 00:33:43.170 --> 00:33:46.309 on screen. And I think the train scene in Spider 00:33:46.309 --> 00:33:49.410 -Man 2 is probably his masterpiece. This little 00:33:49.410 --> 00:33:52.930 scene or this little suit transition here is 00:33:52.930 --> 00:33:56.450 definitely, I think, because of Sam. Pretty fucking 00:33:56.450 --> 00:33:58.170 fantastic. Yeah, right, right. I don't know. 00:33:58.450 --> 00:34:01.009 I guess, okay, we'll give credit to Sam. Exactly, 00:34:01.130 --> 00:34:02.869 right. And that immediately sold me in on the 00:34:02.869 --> 00:34:04.849 movie and Doctor Strange as a character. Okay, 00:34:04.849 --> 00:34:07.940 so you... Are arguing that Doctor Strange is 00:34:07.940 --> 00:34:13.340 not the least character of this. Correct. Okay. 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:16.559 I'm going to give you a couple characters. I 00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:19.019 would name all the Illuminati beneath Doctor 00:34:19.019 --> 00:34:20.920 Strange. I wasn't going to name the Illuminati. 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.639 You're not on the marquee. I was not going to 00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:25.340 name the Illuminati. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm going 00:34:25.340 --> 00:34:29.900 to give you Doctor Strange. Yep. Wanda. Okay. 00:34:30.780 --> 00:34:35.440 Mordo. Yeah. Wong. Yeah, I like Wanda Long. America 00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:38.500 Chavez. Yep. And Christine. Yeah. Those are the 00:34:38.500 --> 00:34:39.980 names I'm going to give you. You've got to rate 00:34:39.980 --> 00:34:42.719 them. I've got to rate them? Who's last? That's 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:44.079 what I want to know. Who's last? Who's last? 00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:46.400 I think there's an obvious option for last. Mordo 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:51.340 is last. And then Christine. Wait, can you say 00:34:51.340 --> 00:34:53.099 your listing again? It's tough. So it's Doctor 00:34:53.099 --> 00:34:57.480 Strange, Wanda, Mordo, Wong, America, and Christine. 00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.369 I guess Christine. No, no, Christine. What? No 00:35:00.369 --> 00:35:02.809 way. Wong's, like, almost at the top of my list. 00:35:02.849 --> 00:35:05.869 Fuck yourself. Well, no, but, like, not, not, 00:35:05.869 --> 00:35:07.769 I guess, like, how, so, like, important to the 00:35:07.769 --> 00:35:10.550 overall movie? No, no, no. Who do you like? Oh, 00:35:10.570 --> 00:35:12.409 okay, sorry, sorry. I misinterpreted it. These 00:35:12.409 --> 00:35:14.590 are just vibes. These are just vibes. These are, 00:35:14.590 --> 00:35:18.070 these are. These are just vibes. I thought you 00:35:18.070 --> 00:35:20.550 were saying in the importance to the film. No, 00:35:20.550 --> 00:35:22.789 you were saying how Doctor Strange is, like, 00:35:22.789 --> 00:35:27.199 the least. I'd rather be watching Wanda's movie. 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:28.840 It's more like Wanda's movie. And the reason 00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:30.900 I put Mordo at the bottom is because I feel like 00:35:30.900 --> 00:35:32.980 they had an angle with him that he didn't do 00:35:32.980 --> 00:35:34.500 anything with him in this movie. It's like, okay, 00:35:34.539 --> 00:35:35.639 he's here to just have... He just got left in 00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:37.559 a ditch. Well, right. It was just like, let's 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:39.300 have our fight scene with him and then that's 00:35:39.300 --> 00:35:40.559 it. You know what I mean? They didn't do anything 00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:42.639 interesting with the... He's on the same level 00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:44.980 as the Minotaur. Yeah, right. That's exactly 00:35:44.980 --> 00:35:47.219 right. And as someone who didn't read the comics, 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:49.239 I don't know why they kept framing him in shots. 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:51.679 I guess you're important, dude, whose name we 00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:55.340 don't know at all. Yep. All right, so you do. 00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:58.199 Mordo's last. Mordo's last, then Christine, and 00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.679 then who I have left? America. Doctor Strange, 00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:04.099 America, Wanda, and Wong. Okay, then America. 00:36:06.739 --> 00:36:09.980 God, you're putting me on a technicality. Probably 00:36:09.980 --> 00:36:12.340 Wanda, then Doctor Strange, and then Wong, yeah. 00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.199 Okay. So the same bottom two is for me, Mordo 00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:21.730 and Christine. I like Christine a lot more than 00:36:21.730 --> 00:36:23.730 I did after watching Doctor Strange. It's true. 00:36:23.769 --> 00:36:25.849 She's probably most improved, which is wild, 00:36:25.989 --> 00:36:27.750 right? Most improved. It's the what if episode. 00:36:27.750 --> 00:36:30.530 Movie one, yeah, she's five of six. It's the 00:36:30.530 --> 00:36:34.030 what if episode again. She doesn't do much, but 00:36:34.030 --> 00:36:36.409 you feel the loss of her. Sure. So those two 00:36:36.409 --> 00:36:42.610 at the bottom. Yeah, America, Doctor Strange, 00:36:43.170 --> 00:36:48.070 Wong, and then Wanda. Okay. I think Benedict 00:36:48.070 --> 00:36:51.070 Wong, right? Benedict Wong, yeah. Yeah, Benedict 00:36:51.070 --> 00:36:53.210 Wong. I just want to watch him. We've got the 00:36:53.210 --> 00:36:55.650 Benedicts. Yeah, the Benedicts. Benedict and 00:36:55.650 --> 00:36:57.030 Benedict. That should be the poster next time. 00:36:57.090 --> 00:37:00.809 Benedict and Benedict. Ben and Ben. He also just 00:37:00.809 --> 00:37:02.349 has great stage presence, film presence. He does, 00:37:02.349 --> 00:37:04.769 yes. And I just want to see him in more things. 00:37:04.929 --> 00:37:07.130 And Marvel seems to really like him because he 00:37:07.130 --> 00:37:09.570 showed up in Shang -Chi, too. He shows up everywhere 00:37:09.570 --> 00:37:11.590 nowadays. He shows up everywhere. Mitchell, your 00:37:11.590 --> 00:37:15.070 list real quick. Yeah, so last for me is Christine. 00:37:15.230 --> 00:37:20.199 And I'll say this. Rachel McAdams, I love her, 00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:22.280 but she has zero chemistry with him. Correct. 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.360 I love Rachel McAdams, but do not buy... Her 00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:27.280 animated form has more... Yes, right. I bought 00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.239 the romance more in What If than I did in either 00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:33.159 movie, right? That is one of the biggest thread 00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.920 points in the plot, and it just does not work 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.420 for me at all. Anyway, so that's going to be 00:37:38.420 --> 00:37:42.380 six. I'll go... Who are my other options? I forgot 00:37:42.380 --> 00:37:44.639 the ones that we had. Christine, Mordo, Wong, 00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:57.219 America, Wanda, Doctor Strange. Yeah. And Doctor 00:37:57.219 --> 00:38:00.380 Strange 1, I think, was more okay. Introducing 00:38:00.380 --> 00:38:02.559 the character, yeah. But it's just like, he is 00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:04.780 one of the main Doctor Strange villains. Right. 00:38:05.420 --> 00:38:08.800 And then we got, I'm going to go America Chavez, 00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:11.300 but just because of how competitive the field 00:38:11.300 --> 00:38:13.559 is, I'm very invested in her character. I'm a 00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:16.440 huge Young Avengers fan. Yeah. And then I will 00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:20.820 go Strange, Wong, and then by a million miles, 00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:26.360 Elizabeth Olsen. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's her movie. 00:38:26.590 --> 00:38:28.849 It is her movie. You're right. It's her movie. 00:38:29.170 --> 00:38:32.030 Yeah. This is Scarlet Witch, Multiverse of Madness, 00:38:32.150 --> 00:38:34.570 and a little Doctor Strange. No, there's a lot 00:38:34.570 --> 00:38:37.070 of Doctor Strange in this too. I read a review 00:38:37.070 --> 00:38:39.650 talking about it today, and they were like, Multiverse 00:38:39.650 --> 00:38:42.210 of Madness, it's Wanda's madness. Yeah, right. 00:38:42.329 --> 00:38:45.190 Well, sure. Yeah. Obviously, it stood with me. 00:38:45.489 --> 00:38:47.909 Yeah. All right. We have talked way too long 00:38:47.909 --> 00:38:49.869 about this movie. We're not getting to Moon Knight. 00:38:50.150 --> 00:38:52.309 We have to take a break to talk about the future 00:38:52.309 --> 00:38:54.269 of MCU. Okay. Because this is something we want 00:38:54.269 --> 00:38:55.610 to talk about. Yes. Let's take a quick break. 00:38:56.010 --> 00:38:58.210 Be right back. All right, we're back to talk 00:38:58.210 --> 00:39:02.130 about the future of the MCU. One of the things 00:39:02.130 --> 00:39:05.889 that I feel hasn't been established yet is the 00:39:05.889 --> 00:39:09.590 overarching narrative. Yes! You know, like we 00:39:09.590 --> 00:39:11.650 had the Infinity Saga for the first ones, or 00:39:11.650 --> 00:39:15.309 for the first phases. Basically, as soon as... 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:18.739 Even as soon as the credits rolled for Iron Man 00:39:18.739 --> 00:39:22.699 1, we had Nick Fury saying Avengers Initiative, 00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:27.719 and we had that to look forward to. Phase 4 is 00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:31.059 the longest phase, purely on content alone because 00:39:31.059 --> 00:39:34.219 of how much is in it. And I know that Kang, the 00:39:34.219 --> 00:39:36.559 Conqueror, will be important. He who remains, 00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:40.079 yes. But I just, I'm with you. I just don't see 00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:42.360 what, what are we building towards? Right. What 00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.019 are we building towards with all of this? I feel 00:39:45.019 --> 00:39:47.900 like phase four has basically just said the words 00:39:47.900 --> 00:39:50.519 multiverse and that's it. That's what they're 00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:52.280 building towards. And what's funny about it though 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:54.780 is like we, I feel like we're back to phase one. 00:39:54.860 --> 00:39:56.760 We have all these movies that are just separate 00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.519 movies. Yeah. We've got Shang -Chi. We've got 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.860 Black Widow. Eternals. I haven't seen that. Yeah. 00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:05.110 Let's just bring, me, I think. it's safer to 00:40:05.110 --> 00:40:07.110 say that Eternals is not going to be important 00:40:07.110 --> 00:40:09.269 for a while. I just think they're going to pop 00:40:09.269 --> 00:40:16.369 in here. I would eat a hat if the Eternals get 00:40:16.369 --> 00:40:17.849 their own film. There's not going to be an Eternals 00:40:17.849 --> 00:40:21.429 2. They'd bomb. The movie's coming up. Let's 00:40:21.429 --> 00:40:23.869 just look at them. Thor, Love and Thunder. That's 00:40:23.869 --> 00:40:26.590 going to be standalone. Is that the last Chris 00:40:26.590 --> 00:40:30.860 Hemsworth film that we think? We think. We don't 00:40:30.860 --> 00:40:32.820 know. Are we assuming that we're in transition 00:40:32.820 --> 00:40:35.380 to Natalie Portman being the main Thor for a 00:40:35.380 --> 00:40:36.920 while? I don't know where it's going to go. That's 00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:39.320 all I'll say. Basically, there's no more contract. 00:40:39.380 --> 00:40:41.820 And Love and Thunder is, the way I'm looking 00:40:41.820 --> 00:40:44.039 at it, is about its Guardians of the Galaxy 2 00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:47.440 .5. Yes, I agree. And Guardians of the Galaxy 00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:50.519 3 is coming out as well. We got Wakanda Forever. 00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.480 Which, again, feels like a separate movie just 00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:57.099 because they have to address. It's going to be 00:40:57.099 --> 00:40:59.699 Shuri's re -origin story almost, right? Are we 00:40:59.699 --> 00:41:02.039 sure it's Shuri, though? Yeah. Letitia Wright, 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:04.800 dude, it's been well documented. It's Letitia 00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.059 Wright. And she got COVID and got shut down for 00:41:07.059 --> 00:41:09.400 a while. Yeah, and then she refused to get vaxxed. 00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:11.500 Yeah, I know. Also was in trouble for a while. 00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:14.480 Oh, no, no. Yeah, we're sure. They figured that 00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:16.199 out. For better or worse. I don't know. They 00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:19.400 want to bring somebody else in for the next one. 00:41:19.539 --> 00:41:21.780 Oh, for that third one? For the third one. Well, 00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:23.920 why bother then making her be black? So she'll 00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:25.579 be black, she'll put on the suit for five minutes 00:41:25.579 --> 00:41:27.840 at the end and then call it a day? Basically, 00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:30.920 just bridge the gap. Yeah. You know, and find 00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:33.360 out that she's better at the lab stuff instead 00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:36.940 of the, yeah. Okay. The Marvels, that's the first 00:41:36.940 --> 00:41:39.320 time we even address WandaVision besides this 00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:41.579 one. That's Captain Marvel's next film, right? 00:41:41.579 --> 00:41:43.519 Captain Marvel's next film. Yes, okay. It's also 00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:47.059 supposed to have Ms. Marvel. Right, who's getting 00:41:47.059 --> 00:41:49.940 a Disney Plus show. And Spectrum. Not Photon? 00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:53.719 Who's Spectrum? Photon? Yeah. Photon is Monica 00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:56.800 Rambeau's daughter. I thought her name was Spectrum. 00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:00.400 Oh, I've seen her referred to as Photon. Okay, 00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:02.719 alright. Well, Photon's a better name than Spectrum 00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:05.219 anyway, so I'll take it. Then Guardians of the 00:42:05.219 --> 00:42:08.519 Galaxy 3, and then Quantumania. Yep. Quantumania's 00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.880 the one that will bring Kang back into it. Yeah, 00:42:10.900 --> 00:42:14.039 so basically Quantumania... Ironically, Ant -Man 00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:17.739 is our greatest hope, right? Ant -Man jumps up 00:42:17.739 --> 00:42:21.239 the butt and expands. Ant -Man once again saves 00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.619 the day. Well, so don't we have a Fantastic Four 00:42:24.619 --> 00:42:27.699 movie on the horizon too? We do. But that may 00:42:27.699 --> 00:42:29.519 have gotten pushed back a little bit too because 00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.500 John Watts dropped out of the project. Oh, okay. 00:42:32.659 --> 00:42:34.440 Oh, I just saw that. He wants to take a break. 00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:37.800 Which is fair. He could come back anytime, but 00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:39.860 he just wanted to take a break. So I don't know 00:42:39.860 --> 00:42:43.579 who's going to head that ship right now. I still 00:42:43.579 --> 00:42:45.980 feel good about the writing hands, but it's just 00:42:45.980 --> 00:42:48.820 a matter of who comes in. It's not going to be 00:42:48.820 --> 00:42:52.599 Trant. I know that. No, definitely not. I think 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.480 in the, you know, saying the quiet part out loud, 00:42:55.679 --> 00:43:00.179 in my opinion, the most important franchise that 00:43:00.179 --> 00:43:02.760 has not been formally introduced into the MCU 00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:06.059 yet is... The X -Men. But we've got the show 00:43:06.059 --> 00:43:08.099 for that. They're going to have the cartoon. 00:43:08.780 --> 00:43:11.079 That could be consequential. It could just be 00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:14.460 a little side project. Who knows? But ultimately, 00:43:14.659 --> 00:43:18.659 I think that is going to help dictate the direction 00:43:18.659 --> 00:43:22.559 of where we go for the MCU beyond Phase 4 because 00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.619 it took us three phases to get up to Infinity 00:43:25.619 --> 00:43:28.599 War and Endgame. I'd imagine it's going to be 00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.340 similarly paced to get us to Secret Wars, which 00:43:31.340 --> 00:43:33.500 is what... A lot of people are talking about 00:43:33.500 --> 00:43:36.480 it. Isn't Secret Wars going to be a TV series? 00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:40.519 No. Secret Invasion. Secret Invasion, yes. Which 00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:44.199 feels too late to it. It's not even like, oh 00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:46.559 man, I want another Infinity War. Where's my 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:49.139 Infinity War? It's more like... I just want to 00:43:49.139 --> 00:43:51.159 know what we're moving towards. Right. And I 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.219 guess what I am saying is, where's my team -up 00:43:53.219 --> 00:43:55.119 movie? And we got one, essentially, with No Way 00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:58.940 Home, right? In a form. Well, it's the problem 00:43:58.940 --> 00:44:00.989 of... phase four having too many properties in 00:44:00.989 --> 00:44:03.630 it right it's just too much yep i don't know 00:44:03.630 --> 00:44:05.650 if it would be better if we've moved if at some 00:44:05.650 --> 00:44:07.750 point we moved into phase five and that's what 00:44:07.750 --> 00:44:10.010 we were calling it it's just they introduced 00:44:10.010 --> 00:44:12.489 king the conqueror i know he will eventually 00:44:12.489 --> 00:44:16.369 be important right but it's just what is it young 00:44:16.369 --> 00:44:18.570 avengers is that what we're building towards 00:44:18.570 --> 00:44:21.210 is it young avengers well i'm in miss marvel 00:44:21.210 --> 00:44:24.550 young avengers honestly as someone who's a fan 00:44:24.550 --> 00:44:27.050 of the books when they came out young avengers 00:44:27.050 --> 00:44:30.550 as characters I think, work better as a show. 00:44:30.789 --> 00:44:33.550 So I don't even know if it's... It's a team drama. 00:44:33.809 --> 00:44:36.070 Like, that's what The Avengers... It's the OC 00:44:36.070 --> 00:44:37.789 with superpowers. I was about to say, like, they 00:44:37.789 --> 00:44:40.369 could eat the CW's lunch with that show, right? 00:44:40.670 --> 00:44:44.550 Because that's Wanda's kids, Wiccan and Speed. 00:44:44.710 --> 00:44:47.929 Then there's Kate Bishop. There's Cassie Lang. 00:44:48.809 --> 00:44:52.369 And... America Chavez. And Miss Marvel. Miss 00:44:52.369 --> 00:44:54.409 Marvel. And, I mean, you can even argue that 00:44:54.409 --> 00:44:56.909 Spider -Man might be a part. I mean, he's still... 00:44:56.909 --> 00:45:01.650 And then you got... Eli Bradley, who was briefly 00:45:01.650 --> 00:45:03.969 introduced. Oh, that's right. In Winter Soldier. 00:45:04.309 --> 00:45:07.909 Yeah. So who is he? Sorry. The grandson of the. 00:45:08.869 --> 00:45:12.349 Ah, OK. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, like, OK, 00:45:12.369 --> 00:45:14.849 so that's why I brought them up is OK. Are we 00:45:14.849 --> 00:45:16.730 building towards them? And then, yeah, I think 00:45:16.730 --> 00:45:18.449 a TV show sounds better, especially if they're 00:45:18.449 --> 00:45:20.510 going to be more like the team, like superhero 00:45:20.510 --> 00:45:24.230 OC. This is give me. Superhero OC. Just give 00:45:24.230 --> 00:45:27.960 me something. California. Because I'm just, I'm 00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:31.300 feeling the fatigue. I'm feeling where I felt 00:45:31.300 --> 00:45:33.500 when I walked out of watching Age of Ultron. 00:45:33.539 --> 00:45:36.340 I'm feeling the fatigue. Yeah. I just don't care. 00:45:36.340 --> 00:45:38.820 Well, I think we're reaching the point in so 00:45:38.820 --> 00:45:41.539 far as like, I think the approach feels like 00:45:41.539 --> 00:45:43.699 you can interact with whatever property in the 00:45:43.699 --> 00:45:46.199 MCU that you feel is more interesting. You really 00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:48.239 can't though because you have to interact with 00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:49.679 all of it. I don't know, man. Doctor Strange 00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:52.940 just proved that no, you can't. Because if you 00:45:52.940 --> 00:45:54.360 didn't watch WandaVision because you didn't care 00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:55.980 about WandaVision, all of a sudden you're getting 00:45:55.980 --> 00:45:57.860 all this exposition. Wait, why is she evil that 00:45:57.860 --> 00:45:59.840 way? I guess so. I mean, this is me hand -waving, 00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:01.780 like, who cares about Doctor Strange but not 00:46:01.780 --> 00:46:03.440 about Wanda? But I guess there's, like, that's 00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:06.380 a significant slice, right? Yeah, right. Yeah, 00:46:06.659 --> 00:46:09.300 I don't know. I don't want to know why Monica 00:46:09.300 --> 00:46:10.980 Rambeau, I can't remember Monica Rambeau's daughter, 00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:15.679 is it Marie? No. Whatever, Photon. I'm on it. 00:46:16.059 --> 00:46:19.139 Daughter Rambeau. Wait, why does she have superhero 00:46:19.139 --> 00:46:23.079 powers now? Right. Wait, why is Falcon Captain 00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:26.659 America? Why is his suit so ugly? Why is his 00:46:26.659 --> 00:46:29.679 suit so ugly? Oh, damn, dude. You really had 00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:31.340 to go and do it. I think you have it backwards. 00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:34.500 Monica Rambeau is... Monica Rambeau is Photon, 00:46:34.500 --> 00:46:35.659 right? Is Photon. Oh, okay, sorry. That's what 00:46:35.659 --> 00:46:38.780 I was thinking about it. And then her... Yeah, 00:46:39.059 --> 00:46:42.260 Maria. Maria Rambeau. Sorry, so Maria Rambeau 00:46:42.260 --> 00:46:47.170 is Captain Marvel on the Illuminati side. Mata 00:46:47.170 --> 00:46:51.610 Harambo is her daughter. Yes. Who becomes Photon, 00:46:51.610 --> 00:46:54.789 also known as Spectrum, also has been referred 00:46:54.789 --> 00:46:59.409 to as Pulsar. Pulsar. Pick a name. All right. 00:46:59.429 --> 00:47:03.070 Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. No. And, like, Loki 00:47:03.070 --> 00:47:07.250 season two will be important somehow. Are we 00:47:07.250 --> 00:47:09.969 kind of disappointed there wasn't more of a connection 00:47:09.969 --> 00:47:15.030 to Loki? Yes. Very. The TVA? Yeah. We're going 00:47:15.030 --> 00:47:17.460 to see it in Quantumania. Yeah. I know. Just 00:47:17.460 --> 00:47:19.900 because of the Kang connection. Exactly. But 00:47:19.900 --> 00:47:23.059 I just thought for sure that it would have been... 00:47:23.059 --> 00:47:25.219 Something. Something. At this point. Something. 00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:28.480 I don't know what exactly, but... I don't know, 00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.400 man. I think something switched in me when I 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:31.900 watched Eternals, because that was the first 00:47:31.900 --> 00:47:34.519 movie in a while that I sat down, no interest 00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:35.920 in watching, but I watched it because it was 00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:37.900 a Marvel movie, and then I came out of that movie 00:47:37.900 --> 00:47:39.239 being like, alright, that's the last time I'm 00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:40.920 going to watch this just because it's a Marvel 00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:42.679 movie. You know what I mean? You know what? So 00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.320 far it's had no repercussions. Right. Well, sure. 00:47:45.460 --> 00:47:47.559 I mean, they haven't had a year to react to it 00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:52.099 or whatever, but yeah. I don't know. It doesn't 00:47:52.099 --> 00:47:54.119 seem to matter. No one's talked about the giant 00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:56.420 celestial. That's true. You're right. You think 00:47:56.420 --> 00:47:58.139 somebody would have brought up the giant celestial. 00:47:58.139 --> 00:48:01.460 This is their fourth or fifth world ending event 00:48:01.460 --> 00:48:03.599 that they've had to deal with, right? Oh, and 00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:07.599 then there was briefly about Moon Knight. It's 00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:11.099 set in London, which is also the same. city that 00:48:11.099 --> 00:48:13.099 parts of Eternals is setting. Yeah, you wanted, 00:48:13.099 --> 00:48:15.599 you wanted, you wanted, you wanted, um, uh, Kit 00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:17.699 Harington to show up or something, right? Yeah. 00:48:17.780 --> 00:48:18.920 That would've been cool. Oh, and we've got Blade 00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:19.980 coming on in the future. Like, I'm excited for 00:48:19.980 --> 00:48:21.420 that. Yeah, Blade would be fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:48:21.579 --> 00:48:25.059 But is this okay? No, to me, to me, like, it's 00:48:25.059 --> 00:48:27.780 just, like, the movie, like, the movie, a Marvel 00:48:27.780 --> 00:48:29.480 movie's gonna have to do, look interesting for 00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:31.559 me to watch it, which, as it happens, I'm a huge 00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:33.340 Mark, so that's gonna be most of them, you know? 00:48:33.340 --> 00:48:35.800 Yeah. That's fine. And if they're gonna, if they're 00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:38.659 gonna commit to, to having, letting, to bringing 00:48:38.659 --> 00:48:42.170 in, cool directors with different visions such 00:48:42.170 --> 00:48:45.650 as Sam Raimi or what Chloe Zhao cinematically 00:48:45.650 --> 00:48:47.889 brought to the table because her film was gorgeous. 00:48:49.110 --> 00:48:53.929 You made a face. It's a bad movie. It looks great. 00:48:54.269 --> 00:48:58.030 I don't think it's that good of a movie. I didn't 00:48:58.030 --> 00:49:00.690 say that. I said cinematically. I said cinematically 00:49:00.690 --> 00:49:03.010 it looked really good. You can polish a turd 00:49:03.010 --> 00:49:06.019 but it's still a turd. I don't want to say point 00:49:06.019 --> 00:49:08.760 fingers and I don't know how much of Eternal's 00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:13.519 problem is studio or that she tried to do her 00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:16.059 thing and they're like and it just didn't work 00:49:16.059 --> 00:49:18.500 or they're like no we want you because you just 00:49:18.500 --> 00:49:21.280 won an Oscar and you are really good at the visuals 00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:24.940 but we're not here for your storytelling yeah 00:49:24.940 --> 00:49:27.139 the Oscar thing was a happy accident because 00:49:27.139 --> 00:49:28.980 she was already she was already tapped right 00:49:28.980 --> 00:49:39.889 yeah has a distinct director's voice, which is 00:49:39.889 --> 00:49:42.369 the same thing that we're getting with Sam Raimi, 00:49:42.429 --> 00:49:45.130 which I do appreciate in this movie. But there 00:49:45.130 --> 00:49:47.789 is something to be said about directors like 00:49:47.789 --> 00:49:51.849 the Russo brothers, who kind of play ball. You 00:49:51.849 --> 00:49:54.530 know what I mean? They know how to work within 00:49:54.530 --> 00:49:57.489 the Marvel machine, and they've made some of 00:49:57.489 --> 00:50:02.429 the best Marvel movies. Same with Taika. Taika, 00:50:02.530 --> 00:50:06.829 yeah, and I'm really hoping that... to my expectations 00:50:06.829 --> 00:50:09.630 too but he has more of a voice right i think 00:50:09.630 --> 00:50:12.269 there's like for these team -up movies where 00:50:12.269 --> 00:50:15.409 you're really uh putting a bow on big storylines 00:50:15.409 --> 00:50:18.349 and bringing all these characters together i'm 00:50:18.349 --> 00:50:22.190 not sure if you could trust a director with a 00:50:22.190 --> 00:50:25.630 distinct vision right no i get i get i get what 00:50:25.630 --> 00:50:28.090 you're saying like like these movies by design 00:50:28.090 --> 00:50:31.730 have to be Make the mold, exactly. Yeah, like 00:50:31.730 --> 00:50:34.230 if they brought Alex Garland in, it'll look gorgeous, 00:50:34.309 --> 00:50:37.250 but it's not going to have any of the heavy weight 00:50:37.250 --> 00:50:39.849 that comes with his films. Right, no. And I mean, 00:50:39.849 --> 00:50:42.329 I just got finished shitting on Infinity War, 00:50:42.409 --> 00:50:45.230 comparing it to Doctor Strength, the Multiverse 00:50:45.230 --> 00:50:47.769 of Madness' opening fight scene, but that's by 00:50:47.769 --> 00:50:49.869 design too, right? You know, like every character 00:50:49.869 --> 00:50:51.570 has to have their little mini moment to shine 00:50:51.570 --> 00:50:53.329 in those movies, right? You can't just have one 00:50:53.329 --> 00:50:54.769 character steal the spotlight. Like, I don't 00:50:54.769 --> 00:50:57.579 want to... think too many praises, but isn't 00:50:57.579 --> 00:51:00.320 that why Joss Whedon's Avengers was cool? It's 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:05.000 because he knows how to do teams. He was right 00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:08.739 for Avengers, and he really, as much as I didn't 00:51:08.739 --> 00:51:11.340 like it, he was right for Avengers Age of Ultron. 00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:13.539 Well, he was, but that was... They just didn't 00:51:13.539 --> 00:51:15.780 know what they wanted to do. That and that was 00:51:15.780 --> 00:51:18.219 peak, we need to set up 17 different storylines 00:51:18.219 --> 00:51:20.599 to get people still invested. Kind of, which 00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:23.079 will never, ever matter. And I think they've 00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:24.840 reached a better balance with that, you know? 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:27.420 Because, like, we just finished watching this 00:51:27.420 --> 00:51:29.619 Doctor Strange movie, and there's not... I didn't 00:51:29.619 --> 00:51:31.840 feel like, oh, man, it's setting up 17 different 00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:34.079 other movies at the end of it. It's setting up 00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:38.780 Doctor Strange 3, maybe something Wanda, maybe 00:51:38.780 --> 00:51:41.199 something America Chavez. Right, but there's 00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:44.239 no, like... Sure, but there wasn't a weird moment 00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:46.880 where America Chavez has to, like, leave the 00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:48.599 plot for a little bit. We follow her to a scene, 00:51:48.780 --> 00:51:52.139 and she dives into a pool and says, oh... this 00:51:52.139 --> 00:51:56.400 is the prophecy of the show yeah yeah yeah exactly 00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:59.840 right right wow i forgot about thor's plot right 00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:02.079 that's what i'm saying though like that was peak 00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:04.659 we need to wedge something in here to get people 00:52:04.659 --> 00:52:08.199 to get this going very forced and we set up black 00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:10.320 widow but then we said we're not gonna do black 00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:12.820 widow the same way we're gonna do it 14 years 00:52:12.820 --> 00:52:16.139 later we set up this relationship too that's 00:52:16.139 --> 00:52:19.960 not going anywhere so you know again like honestly 00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:22.539 though like As much as we're complaining about, 00:52:22.699 --> 00:52:24.639 or at least I'm complaining about not having 00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:26.800 a clear vision of what's going forward, honestly, 00:52:26.860 --> 00:52:28.360 these movies are still hitting more than they're 00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:31.320 missing for me, right? They have a vision. They're 00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:33.860 just playing it almost too close to the top. 00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:36.400 All right, I may cut this later, but what's the 00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:39.199 project you jump off on? What do you mean? Like, 00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:41.760 as in you don't care if it comes out or not? 00:52:42.380 --> 00:52:45.679 You were saying it needs to look interesting 00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:48.800 and fun. Sure. Calm down on this. Yeah, do it. 00:52:48.940 --> 00:52:52.500 Keep going. Okay. So, Thor, Love and Thunder? 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:54.599 Absolutely, yeah. I mean, it's Taika, you know, 00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:58.900 he's... Shang -Chi 2? Sure, I don't know. Well, 00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:01.420 I was gonna read the ones that are actually... 00:53:01.420 --> 00:53:02.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wakanda Forever? 00:53:05.380 --> 00:53:07.219 That's gonna be tough. I was gonna say, like, 00:53:07.219 --> 00:53:09.940 there's no comment for... I mean, I don't know 00:53:09.940 --> 00:53:11.739 how I feel about it. Sorry, finish your thought, 00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:15.019 Mitchell. I was thinking, because Ryan Coogler 00:53:15.019 --> 00:53:17.940 is writing and directing, I trust him as a filmmaker 00:53:17.940 --> 00:53:27.889 to tell a good story still. Yeah. You don't have 00:53:27.889 --> 00:53:30.590 Chadwick. Let's put that one off to the side. 00:53:31.809 --> 00:53:34.489 Let's put that one off to the side. You started 00:53:34.489 --> 00:53:37.489 off with a spicy one right away. I'm just reading 00:53:37.489 --> 00:53:41.849 them in order. The Marvels? That directly depends 00:53:41.849 --> 00:53:44.170 on how much I like Ms. Marvel, which I'm going 00:53:44.170 --> 00:53:46.849 to watch. Just because I like that character. 00:53:47.250 --> 00:53:50.530 Guardians 3? Yeah, I'll watch it. Ant -Man Quantumania? 00:53:51.510 --> 00:53:53.489 Literally, you got me on a technicality because 00:53:53.489 --> 00:53:56.110 I know that Commander Kang is going to show up. 00:53:56.150 --> 00:53:58.769 Kang the Conqueror. Not Commander Kang. So let's 00:53:58.769 --> 00:54:01.070 go to the TV shows. Because I think this is a 00:54:01.070 --> 00:54:03.190 little more drop -off. Yeah. Ms. Marvel, you 00:54:03.190 --> 00:54:05.050 said already. I'm going to watch, yeah. She -Hulk? 00:54:05.989 --> 00:54:08.269 Yes, because I like her in Marvel vs. Capcom 00:54:08.269 --> 00:54:12.010 3. That's my technicality. That's his in. Secret 00:54:12.010 --> 00:54:16.829 Invasion? Yes. Sure. Ironheart? That's the new 00:54:16.829 --> 00:54:20.369 Iron Man. Yeah. What is that? Can you give me 00:54:20.369 --> 00:54:23.929 the... I got nothing. She's like a teen genius. 00:54:25.420 --> 00:54:27.719 who... I'll watch the trailer and then decide 00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:29.980 there. How about that? So far, I... I would not 00:54:29.980 --> 00:54:32.619 be surprised if her character is introduced in 00:54:32.619 --> 00:54:34.860 Wakanda Forever. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That could 00:54:34.860 --> 00:54:38.019 make sense. Her name's like Riri, R -I -R -I, 00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:41.659 something like that. Yeah. Armor Wars? What? 00:54:41.699 --> 00:54:43.780 What is that? Armor Wars? Bionicles, you mean? 00:54:43.780 --> 00:54:46.000 It's the War Machine, the War Machine series. 00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:51.360 Good for Don Cheadle. Yeah. You know what happened? 00:54:51.619 --> 00:54:55.980 Okay, don't leave. I'm done with this game. Alright, 00:54:56.119 --> 00:54:59.719 let's review. Let's give our ratings to Doctor 00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:01.460 Strange because we've been letting people wait 00:55:01.460 --> 00:55:04.760 too long. And then we need to close out because 00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:09.039 we are well over an hour. Oh, Jesus. It does. 00:55:09.659 --> 00:55:13.039 We could have kept going, too. I get it. Alright. 00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:18.239 Jill, you want to start? You said it. You go 00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:23.349 ahead. Um... On a scale of zero to five, I will 00:55:23.349 --> 00:55:26.429 give Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, 00:55:26.590 --> 00:55:30.809 I'm going to do the thing I hate, 3 .8 out of 00:55:30.809 --> 00:55:35.409 five lunchboxes. Okay. Lunchboxes. 3 .8? 3 .8. 00:55:35.409 --> 00:55:38.389 Nice. I liked it a lot. Yeah. But, you know, 00:55:38.389 --> 00:55:42.409 I need to see it again. Okay. I'm going to give 00:55:42.409 --> 00:55:47.309 it 3 .75 star shaped portals out of five. Okay. 00:55:47.409 --> 00:56:01.179 3 .75. Mitchell? Okay. Damn it. You took mine. 00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:07.000 You bastard. You took mine. Fuck you. All right. 00:56:09.659 --> 00:56:15.139 Three out of five. Damn it. I need to come up 00:56:15.139 --> 00:56:18.400 with one. Shit. Music battles. Fake children. 00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:22.320 Okay. Out of five. Yeah. That's messed up. That's 00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:27.360 fucked, dude. Yeah. Yeah. And they're real in 00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:29.300 every other multiverse except for every other 00:56:29.300 --> 00:56:31.300 universe except for hers apparently. It's kind 00:56:31.300 --> 00:56:34.019 of fucking close. Yeah. I have a theory about 00:56:34.019 --> 00:56:36.840 that. That's pretty fucked. I'll tell you off 00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:40.179 microphone my theory. Oh, okay. All right. So 00:56:40.179 --> 00:56:41.840 that'll do it for this episode of Game for a 00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:43.780 Movie where we ask are you game for a movie? 00:56:43.900 --> 00:56:47.659 I've been Mike. Jill. Andre. And Mitchell. Yeah. 00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:49.679 We will see you next time on Game for a Movie. 00:56:49.820 --> 00:56:50.460 Bye guys.