You know what that sound means? It's another
episode of Game for a Movie, where we ask, are
you game for a movie? I am your host, Mike. I
am joined by... Jill. Andre. Claire. Claire!
It's a rare Claire sighting. It is a rare Claire
sighting. We are all together, which is another
weird thing, because... It feels like it's been
a while. It has been a hot minute. Yeah. And
especially, it's been a while with this podcasting.
Yes. We have been a little distracted with some
stuff in life, which is okay. Scheduling conflicts,
et cetera, et cetera. Exactly. Work happens.
But we're drinking. We are. What are you drinking,
Jill? Well, it is the second to last day of Passover,
so I am not imbibing any beer. My little workaround
is I just went straight for the hard liquor,
and I'm having a Hurricane made for me by Andre.
That's right. I know it has overproof rum. Yeah.
And why don't you walk us through? So it's just
two types of rum in there, and I, by accident,
used the same distillery. It's Plantation. You
got an ounce of overproof dark rum and an ounce
of Plantation five -year rum. It's good. If you've
had a Hurricane in New Orleans... You're probably
recoiling with the memory of you vomiting it
up in a corner. At Patio B's. Making one at home
is much, much better. You guys can't see it,
but Claire is slipping laundry off. I mean, I
hardly think that... I don't think our crowd
knows that story, Claire. Well, no, but I also
think that... Just know if you're ever in New
Orleans and you go to Patrick O 'Brien's, which
claims to be home of the hurricane, there's a
corner in there that you can take a picture and
know that that's... where Claire vomited. No,
it wasn't a corner, it was the bar. Likely thousands
of other people, let's be real, every year probably
vomit out of it. Every inch of that place has
been vomited out. It's been coated in vomit.
Yep. It's true. We're off to a great start. We
are. We've become bomb cops. So yeah. Oh my god.
Anyways, that hurricane, I like that recipe a
lot. It's a great hurricane. I cripped it from
Anders Ericsson on YouTube. Oh, we love Anders.
Good cocktail guy. He's a Chicago guy. He's a
Chicago guy. Love Chicago guys. Yep. All right.
Cool. I also went ahead and made myself a cocktail.
It's a La Louisiane. It's another New Orleans
drink. What was that? La Louisiane. You didn't
push up your glasses, hold your pinky up. Yeah,
you know, pinky out. Oui, oui. Oui, oui. Well,
is that Cajun? That doesn't seem very Cajun.
Yeah, it's a New Orleans cocktail with a lot
of whiskey in it. It's very nice. Nice. And I
like it. And as my second drink, I got... On
deck, an acronym, a brewing beer. Acronym is
from a local craft brewery in Akron. It's the
Windigo. It's a double red IPA. Is it Windigo
or Windigo? Windigo. Windigo. Yeah, Windigo.
I would say Windigo. I'd say Windigo. Double
red IPA. Good stuff. Heard people say Windigo.
Never heard Windigo. It's probably a supernatural
reference. Maybe. I feel like I've heard. They
definitely had a Wendigo in Supernatural. It
was the second episode. Yeah, we watched the
episode. I saw that episode. And, like, I've
been obsessed with the Wendigo. Actually, it's
really something that I love as a creature of
lore and everything like that. If you want to
pour this guy, you're welcome. Huh? If you want
to pour this guy. Maybe. We'll see what happens.
I'll get the taster for you. Depending on your
folklore, Wendigo is a... Spirit that comes about
when people resort to cannibalism in a gruesome
way and they cling to life but barely and they
transform. It has roots with American Aboriginal.
Yes, it's very northern. There's a lot of American.
There's Canadian. There's two different myths
of it, but it's all basically the same thing
of cannibalism. There's the spirit and then there's
the idea as well. Not a spirit per se, but a
changing of the human. So, yeah. It's also been
known as long pig. Long pig? Yes. Long pig. The
idea is like they get longer and their bones...
Like a werepig. Yeah. Anyways, this beer is good.
This beer is tasty. The only thing it makes me
hungry for is the company of good friends. Aww.
So you can eat them? Don't eat us. And that ends
the cryptids. We're not staying for dinner anymore.
You are the dinner. Last time I come on this
podcast. Got some fava beans and a nice bottle
of Chianti. Oh my god. Claire, what are you drinking
over there? I'm drinking a long drink. Long pick?
No. Long drink. Can't see the side I am giving.
I can hear it. It's good. It tastes like a Fresca
if you've ever had one. What is the main alcohol
in it? Gin. Gin. It's like a can mixed gin drink
that tastes like Fresca. White, very refreshing.
Gluten free and zero sugar according to that
white one there. Yeah, this one. They have different
cans for different things. Move over the heart.
It's nice. It's balanced. It's good. Most of
those canned cocktails are candy sweet, but that's
really good. Well, I have two beers here. I will
start with my backup first because I want to
save the one for next. I was working a couple
weeks for trivia at Black Pond Brews, so I brought
one of theirs. Connecticut. Connecticut. It's
an hour and a half away from our house. So it's
a great spot. I do love it a lot. I don't mean
to shit on it because the drive is just miserable.
But this is their Tears of Amber, Amber Ale.
It's very good. We will... We'll do some tasters
probably of that because it is very good. It
is good. The big one that I have because I saved
it for this podcast. Broadbrook Brewing Company
has a series of beers called the Gigawatt Series.
All of them are based on... Back to the Future.
So the first one they had was a gigawatts special
double IPA that was delicious. I'm sure. This
is a triple IPA called Flux Capacitor. I can't
try it, but I want it. Oh my god. Wow. The first
taste, and I knew I was in trouble. What's the
ABV on that? I asked because I want it to be
the exact amount of gigawatts. I don't know if
it's like 9 .8 gigawatts. I forget the exact
quote. I actually don't know. That's a drink
it if you're playing the Back to the Future drinking
game. Yeah, I don't know. I don't see anything
on here. Can I see? Yeah, of course you can.
She's going to inspect. I'm going to also look
up the quote for gigawatts. The quote, right,
just to know what it could be. Either way, it
looks awesome. It does look awesome. Because
the funny thing is, I think you're way off on
what's... 10 .5. So I don't think it's... 1 .21
gigawatts. Okay, so that's a... Okay, that won't
work. This is 10 .5%. 10 .5%, where did you say
that? It's on the side. 10 .5 is pretty heavy,
man. Turn back. It's like in the area where it's
like the surge in general. Okay. That's almost...
Well, I'm gonna... Yeah. Enjoy. Oh, nice. There
it is. Yeah, I was just going to say, you just
smell it and it's bad. It's gross. I don't like
IPAs. I think they're disgusting. Damn. I know
I'm out. I mean, you're always telling me how
you started to move away from the concept of
IPAs. I used to be like, IPAs are the only beers
that I drank, and now I'm like a little over
it. Like, I will sometimes, like, you know, usually
will grab it to warm more towards the porters
and stouts just because, you know, sometimes
it can be a lot to just drink a whole pint of
them. I accidentally got a stout yesterday. Accidentally?
Yeah. That's the guy behind the bar. He says
we have founders. So I was like, oh, it's like
an all day. Yeah, exactly. Right. Yeah. So I
was like, oh yeah, sure. I'll take a founders.
And he gives me the stout and I was like a founder
stout. That's not what I would think, but sure.
How was it? Was it good? It was okay. Okay. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm sure a lot of people like it better.
I'm not a huge stout person, but I can have one
or two here or there. So that sound in the background
is a cider being gotten from Jill. That is okay
for Passover, ciders. That is okay. Yes. But
yeah, well. That is what we're drinking currently.
Well, our person on deck just went into the kitchen.
I don't know what the, oh, grabbing a, grabbing
a. I almost knocked over one of your liquor bottles.
Please don't do that. Well. It would be very
sad. It wasn't an intentional effort. This one's
not as sweet. Hmm. So, essentially, this is a
movie about, or this is a podcast about movies,
right? Yes. We do drink a lot. We do drink a
lot. But we also watch movies while we drink.
Yes, we do. And you guys have two movies for
us. We do. We do. So, Jill, why don't you kick
us off with the first movie? Yes. Yeah. Was it
a week ago? Wow, that's a long video. It's been
a long time. You know how every now and then
you'll be in the movie theater or you'll be on
YouTube and you'll see a trailer for something
and you know immediately that you need to see
that film? Yeah. Preferably on the biggest screen
you can find. Yes, the unbearable weight of talent.
Of massive talent, yes. That's today. That's,
I know. Are you wearing your shirt under there?
No, I'm not wearing my shirt. Wow. I am wearing
my Johnny Clipboard shirt. Oh, nice. That's pretty
good. There you go, Browns fan. Anyway. Sorry,
Joe. Sorry, keep going, Joe. For me, that movie
was Everything Everywhere All at Once by the
directing duo The Daniels. The Daniels. Their
name might sound familiar. They directed the
late 2010s Farting Corpse movie, Swiss Army Man.
Swiss Army Man, okay. Daniel Radcliffe. Yeah.
Paul Dano. It is Paul Dano. Yeah. Dom Hill Gleeson
or is it Paul Dano? It's Paul Dano. It's Paul
Dano and Daniel Radcliffe. That is a very strange
movie, but if you are not put off by the concept
and are just kind of open to it. I highly recommend
seeing that film. I saw that with my sister in
Boston. It's really good. I saw it in a theater
with literally two other people besides me and
my sister because that movie was not well received.
It was an interesting movie. Can we agree that
Paul Dano looks great dressed as a woman? Yes.
He really does. Very, very attractive. Riddler,
Little Miss Sunshine. Little Miss Sunshine. There
will be, in Cold Blood, no. There will be Blood.
There will be Blood. Oh, yeah, that guy. He's
the one who the milkshake line is thrown at.
Yes. I also showed that Daniels directed a music
video for a band we like called Joywave, and
they directed the music video for Tums, which
is one of Claire's favorites. Yeah, exactly.
That's what I was showing you. So I don't want
to say too much about the film because this is
one of those where the less you know, the better.
It's also hard to explain almost in a way, right?
But I'll start with who's in it. It stars Michelle
Yeoh. Kee Kee Kwan and Stephanie Hsu. Kee Kee
Kwan might sound familiar to you if you are a
fan of the late 80s films Indiana Jones and the
Temple of Doom and The Goonies. He is data. He
took some time away from being in front of this
film. A lot of time away. You know what? Yeah,
fine. A lot of time waiting in front of the screen.
He's done a lot of stuff in Hollywood behind
the screen, primarily in stunt coordination,
but this is his first film appearance in quite
some time, and it's quite refreshing to see him.
That's awesome. It looks like he hasn't missed
a beat. He has not. He also looks like, and I
mean, he didn't look awful as a child actor.
No. But he had a glow up. Oh, absolutely. He's
coming to his own. Yeah, right. But his distinct
voice is still there, and he uses all of his
abilities of acting to the greatest potential
in this film. You see so many ranges. And the
same is true for Michelle Yeoh. I almost called
her Michelle Kwan. Michelle Yeoh. And James Hong
is in this, too. If you don't know who James
Hong is, you've definitely heard his voice, is
all I will say. He's in Mulan. He is in Kung
Fu Panda. What more do you need to know? Rush
Hour. Rush Hour, right. I don't think I've actually
seen Rush Hour. I don't mean to, like, I feel
like Hollywood kind of... Not even I've seen
it. What? What? Really? I'm just saying a lot
because I don't watch nearly as many movies as
you guys. Yeah. I was busy. Okay. I was busy.
You were busy for, wait, what, 15 years? Yeah,
right. So, I mean, we should give at least, like,
the premise of this movie, right? Hang on, I
forgot to mention Jamie Lee Curtis. Oh, yeah,
Jamie Lee Curtis is in this, too. And Jamie Lee
Curtis is in this, too. Really? Yes. Yes, Jamie
Lee Curtis. So, yeah, the... What is going on?
I'm just IMDb -ing. For us dumb people here,
a .k .a. Claire. So what is this movie about?
It's about family. It's about family. Let me
just give you the back of the DVD. I'm going
to try to take a stab at the back of the DVD.
He is great. I don't want to spoil anything about
Harry Schumann. Basically, this movie centers
around a Chinese... Well, right, a Chinese -American
family that runs a laundromat. Michelle Yeoh
is the main star. She's kind of trying to, well,
I don't even know, hold the whole family together.
It opens with her just trying to balance all
of her receipts, basically, because they found
out this laundromat is kind of failing and under
hard times, and they're being audited. So she's
just trying to scramble to get all of these handwritten
receipts all in order. And then her husband is
played by Katie Kwan. is about to serve her divorce
papers and then their daughter is uh kind of
struggling with the fact that her mom doesn't
accept the fact that she's gay she's trying to
bring her girlfriend over um for dinner because
uh their her grandpa is coming over from china
just to see them for the first time so she's
trying to get um michelle yo's character to say
like hey can my can my girlfriend come and come
to the dinner and like can you tell like grandpa
what the situation is etc etc and michelle basically
in denial about it um so basically the the the
the main most of this movie takes place in an
irs building because like i said they're getting
audited yeah they have to go and present all
of these receipts to just make sure that they
don't go under right and their auditor is jamie
lee curtis so um in on the elevator ride up basically
like michelle you it's like a family life is
just Evelyn's, I should say, usually character's
name, Evelyn's family life is fracturing at the
seams. You know, she's trying to be impressive
for her father, who's very disapproving of affection
for America, et cetera, et cetera. And in the
middle of the elevator ride, like, she, like,
her husband, Waymond, yes, thank you, totally
has a totally different personality, just suddenly
he's used to be, like, kind of this more meek,
self -spoken guy, changes his personality, turns
to Evelyn and says, You need to save the multiverse.
Yeah, you need to save the whole universe right
now. There's no time to talk, no time to explain.
Wear this headset thing. The multiverse is in
danger. We need you. We need you right now. Can
I pause for a second? Because literally right
before that... I was thinking, wow, this sounds
like a great, like, snapshot movie. Like, it's
like a snapshot and it's not like a whole, like,
narrative. Okay. This ain't a slice of life.
Apparently not. That's where we'll leave it.
That's where we'll leave it in that it becomes
a multiverse movie. And I don't, I don't mean
to. And that's not a spoiler if you've seen any.
No, that's in the trailer. That's in the commercial
or whatever. It's called Multiverse Jumping.
And so Michelle, Evelyn has to become the savior
of the universe. Travel to multiple universes
and live multiple lives to save the multiverse.
And that's the only plot I kind of want to give
away. Okay. You know. You forgot about the best
actor name though. Who? Biff Whiff. Biff Whiff.
Biff Whiff. He played Rick. And who's Rick? I
don't remember who Rick is. It's this guy. Old
man. White beard. Oh, he's a laundromat attendant.
Yes, he's a laundromat. His name is Biff Whiff.
Biff Whiff. That's his real name? Biff Whiff.
And he's getting over his wife's dying. Yes,
that's true. Oh, Biff. Not pivotal to the story.
But it's weird. It's weird. It's manic. There's
a lot of different film styles. There's a lot
of different art styles. None of that's a spoiler.
And it's, like I said at the top of this, the
less you know going into this, the better. Because
it's just an insane ride that by the end of it,
you're just almost, whoa. I literally felt all
the things. This will probably be the funniest
movie I've ever seen. You felt everything, everywhere,
all at once? Yes. Honestly. Like, it is hilarious.
No. It's, like, it's at times a fun, like, action
martial arts movie. It's, like, a laugh out loud,
like, comedy movie. Sometimes it's a deep sci
-fi film. And it's a really intimate story about
family, too. It's such a, it balances with all
of, like, the whole scale of the story is wacky
and huge, but the characters themselves are really
grounded and small, right? Like, it feels intimate.
You never get overwhelmed. buy the story and
forget about why you're even watching this and
why Evelyn's character fits into this or how
every other character kind of has a place. And
yeah, no, it was a great film. I have concerns
of it getting green -nighted for next year's
Oscars. Meaning? Too early. Too early? Well,
that's my biggest lament of this film is it shouldn't
have come out in April. Yeah. It should have
come out... September, October. Do you think
there was that much concern of how it would do?
Is that why it came out? No. I don't know. I
don't think the Daniels care. Yeah, because it's
a limited theater release, right? We had to drive
all the way. We had to drive twice. There was
only three theaters in Connecticut. Yeah. Where
did you go? We went to Plainville. We went to
Plainville. There was a screening in Southington
at 2 today. And because we've been off today,
I was kind of like, oh, yeah, we should go or
something like that. But then it would have been
rushing to get here to record and everything.
Sure. I'm not going to lie. No, I'm. You should
see it. It's really good. And it's like, this
isn't just like, oh, if you love sci -fi, it's
like, no, like it's almost not even the point.
Like, it's just. Right. It's just unique. Yeah.
Yeah. One of the most unique films I've seen.
Nothing wrong with being unique. All of these
actors are firing it on all cylinders. Jamie
Lee Curtis also underspoken. I don't want to
say MVP of the film. There's no MVP. Everyone
has been at least 300 on this film. They're all
doing great. It sounds refreshing because we're
in a... time, I feel like, where everything is
sequel, prequel, remake. It's the same thing
over and over. It sounds like a nice, refreshing
movie. Which is funny you bring up sequel because
the rest of the episode is sequels. All sequels.
There's nothing wrong with that, but it just
sounds like a very good... If done well, sequels,
prequel, all that stuff, remakes are fine, but
it sounds like a nice, refreshing original movie.
I think we both agree we'll readily buy this
on Blu -ray. I want to support this film and
as we were saying about like concerned about
how it would do like I said I don't think the
Daniels give a shit I want them to create keep
making them whatever movies they want to make
because they continue to be out of the box and
weird but very thought provoking I mean Swiss
Army Man was thought -provoking it's an existential
crisis with the corpse it's a great well and
it also makes sense like we were saying about
joy wave and everything like that their song
is off the rails too and so it really works with
those two as well if they're thought -provoking
and weird um okay so let's give it a rating do
you want to go first i mean dude There's one
I want to say, but I can't say it because it's
a spoiler. Okay. Oh, yeah. All I will say, I'm
going to give this one five raccoons out of five.
I'll give it five out of five fanny packs. Nice.
Five out of fives. I like Fractures and Fanny
Packs. Yeah. And you'll like this movie. Yeah.
If you listen to our Oscars episode as well,
our friend Mark says it's easily his favorite
movie of the year thus far. Yeah. Obviously,
it's still early, but he doesn't think it's going
to readily be knocked off. There's not going
to be another weird... I would say the unbearable
weight of... I would be shocked. A massive talent.
So that movie... I haven't seen it it just came
out that movie at least is in the quadrant of
semi weirdness that everything everywhere at
once just shoots beyond the border of but as
far as I know I haven't seen a trailer for a
film that's gonna be so unique and weird. I don't,
I don't know, I don't, I don't think I could
call this a perfect movie, but I also don't really
know where I'm at point to be like, oh, I didn't
like this part. And like, it's long. It is long,
yeah. You're gonna feel the length of it, but
in a good way. In a good way, right. It all,
it all feels, like, the main effect is not the
right word, like deliberate, there we go. Yes,
deliberate, deliberate. This is intentional.
Every scene, in every scene, every item, When
you feel exhausted, it's meant, you're meant
to feel exhausted, overwhelmed, et cetera, et
cetera. Okay. You know? They know what they're
doing, those Daniels. Yep. Those Daniels. So
it sounds like, terms. There's no good time for
a pee break. No. No before the film. I'll try.
Well, we can't go and do what we did for our
movie, which is drink during the movie. We'll
get to that though. I wonder, isn't there like
an app that tells you when the right time? Runpee.
What's that? Runpee. Runpee. I wonder when Runpee
would tell you. We'll look that up later. We'll
look it up later and see if we agree with her
choice. Runpee got bought up by somebody. No
one might have used it for your film. Oh, I know
exactly where I would if I feel bad. It's also
a good app. Oh, I just heard. It used to be an
app, but now it's been absorbed by AMC. So if
you go to movie details on any AMC movie, shout
out AMC, you can find the run pee times. That's
where we saw this movie. I want to close out
and say that Michelle Yeoh is a gorgeous vampire
of a woman. She's not getting older. She ages
like fine wine. Yes. She's fantastic. I want
to go back and watch... Every person in the principal
cast is just awesome. I want to watch all of
her films. Back from the start with... I remember
my first beer, rookie. Not even beer. This isn't
my first beer. This is my second. Speaking of
second, we've got a second movie. Mike with the
segway. Holy shit. Don't fall off that mountain
with your segway. This is my life. This is why
I don't come on the podcast. Because when you're
here, you're family. Oh, I love it. I will say
they didn't disappoint with the Olive Garden.
They didn't disappoint with the Olive Garden.
I told Andre I would be so upset if there was
an Olive Garden. We're talking about the Blockbuster
movie that's sweeping the nation right now, Sonic
the Hedgehog 2. That porcupine speed. The movie
that made Jim Carrey retire. Got it. I was talking
with a patient last night. Granted, he was in
fifth grade, but he was very into the Sonic movie.
Sonic 2. This cider is fresh. We are all over
the place. I think it's a really good point because
I think they know exactly what they're doing.
This is the exact right time to try to make a
Sonic franchise because this is making a whole
new wave of Sonic fans. It's pandering, but it's...
You're not only getting the dumbass nerds like
me that are pushing 30, or 30 to 40, really,
if you're the Genesis kid, but you're also a
whole... There were kids in the theater, and
they loved it. Oh, yeah. Well, it's a kid's movie.
It's a kid's movie, yeah. I don't care, but for
this... This is the second one of them. We know
exactly what this movie is. Yeah, but I guess
for me... Like, I know it's a kids movie. I'll
never lose sight of that fact. But the fact that
there were kids in the theater for this property
that has been around since even before I was
born was just kind of endearing. You keep saying
there's kids in the theater. It reminds me of
the worst kids movie experience I ever had in
a theater. Well, it wasn't Doolittle. No, it
was two guys, myself and Adam Claus, in the movie
theater for Peanuts, the Peanuts movie. Oh, but
the Peanuts movie's good. But it was only us
two. So? Two like 20 year old guys. Yeah. Have
you never seen a movie by yourself before? Like
an empty theater? Plenty but like a movie with
another guy that's about kid stuff. I saw Coco
with myself and a family but it was like I guess
dad and dad or dad and boyfriend and like the
kids were bored but dad and boyfriend Were you
all sobbing? bawling like you i will also say
though with you like it's a little more i think
when guys go yeah i think it's i think it's a
guy thing yeah that's sad i know it is sad oh
it's very sad we're getting down the rabbit hole
here i mean well yeah i remember that my other
experience whatever gender you identify with
when i went to go see the lego movie in theaters
if my mom was uh visiting and she made the joke
No, no, no. That was the first... You said the
Lego movie. Sorry, Lego Batman movie. Sorry,
you're right. Lego... Oh, yes, the worst Batman.
Oh, gosh. That's Batman. Well, so my mom liked
the Lego movie, right? She was just like, oh,
yeah, let's go see that. I'll watch that with
you or whatever. And, like, yeah, we were definitely...
I was definitely the oldest person there. Yeah.
I was just like, you were definitely the oldest
kid in that theater. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, okay.
Anyway, this was a big digression. Yeah, it is.
Back to Sonic 2. Sonic 2. Yeah, Sonic the Hedgehog
2. I mean, you know exactly what that movie is,
right? Well, I was going to tell you to just
spoil it at this point because I doubt we're
going to see it until A, it comes out on something.
I haven't seen the first one. I haven't seen
any of them. I don't even need to give a whole
plot summary. Idris Elba made an animated echidna
hot. okay well let's stay on that one apparently
it's a meme sexy echidna well because he said
in an interview like leading up to the movie
he's like yeah like I didn't do a sexy echidna
voice or I didn't do a sexy voice for Knuckles
and I'm like it's just my voice I'm like bro
okay yeah exactly your voice is leather yeah
sexy no matter what you do yeah um So Sonic 2
takes place a couple months after the events
of the first one. I guess the credit stinger
for the first one was Tails showing up, right?
And if you like the first Sonic, it's more of
that amped up, but with more characters. Much
like the actual video game, Sonic 2 is just a
bigger, better version of Sonic 1. So you say
better. Is it better? It's tough, right? Sonic
1 was more of a surprise because I wanted a movie
thinking it was not going to be as good as it
was. I think I enjoyed Sonic, as of right now,
Sonic 2 I think I like more than Sonic 1, but
for two very, very different reasons. So Sonic
2 did this thing right. If you've ever watched
a movie, primarily a kid's film, that has either
an animated creature or a CGI creature, They're
human characters, and those human characters
have to go away sometime. Yeah. But there has
to be a plot reason. It can be flimsy and see
-through, but there has to be a reason for them
to leave the house, leave the state, leave whatever.
Yeah. Go on a vacation. They handled why James
Marsden, and I wish I knew the actress who plays
his wife's character. Oh, I should have looked
it up. They handled their exit. Tika Sumter?
Yes, Tika Sumter. James Marsden and Tika Sumter's
characters exit from the plot for a little bit
very, very well. They go to Hawaii for her sister
Rachel's wedding. Yeah, they tried to solve the
problem that a lot of people have with kids'
movies like Transformers and stuff like that
where they're bored by the human characters.
They literally just... sequestered them in hawaii
for a while but it works because send the humans
away yeah exactly yeah there's a later part in
the film where things are revealed and the wedding
kind of falls apart and what comes next is one
of my favorite segments of the entire film where
it's tika sumter and her uh sister um the character's
name for rachel they need to natasha rothwell
natasha rothwell and tika sumter they need to
get back into the hotel for plot reasons and
they kind of divide and conquer and it's just
hilarious the whole thing is great in this segment
Miles, aka Tails, comes in. He's adorable. I
want to give him a hug and a cookie. Well, right.
So they made the wise decision, I think, to bring
back Colleen O'Shaughnessy. Who was the voice
in the video games. These characters have been
around enough that there's been multiple voice
actors. But yet she is the most up -to -date
Tails. They did not stunt -cast Tails. And apparently
when she met Jim Carrey... she was, like, so
excited. Oh, yeah. It was so blown away with
how nice he was, she can't even remember half
the conversation. Well, like, that's, like, kind
of the theme I saw, like, with, um, even, like,
Agent Stone, uh, gosh, what is his name? Liam
Majdub. Yeah, okay. Um, he, for the first movie,
he was, like, his pinned tweet, I was, like,
looking at this, because, A, he's a wholesome
guy, I love his Twitter, because all the people,
he plays, um, Agent Stone, who is Dr. Robotnik's
right -hand man. Yes. Possibly more. Right. And
the more important part is that, he's an original
character for these movies but the fans have
really latched on to him like somebody did like
somebody did fan art of like him doing pixel
art with Agent Stone and Dr. Robotnik and he
retweeted it's like this is awesome so fun his
pinned tweet is him on the red carpet for the
Sonic 1 premiere with Jim Carrey like he is fanboying
yeah yeah and I think that's what I reasons why
this these films have worked so well is that
these actors are not ashamed to be yeah no one
no one no one seems to be bored right for a very
for how silly this movie is no one seems to be
like oh god i'm doing the sonic movie right you
know you can tell sometimes that was an argument
for the obviously when the movie started to come
out they were comparing uh james marsden and
hop versus james marsden and sonic yeah yeah
yeah and it was very different because Apparently
in Hop, he was miserable. Oh, okay. And in Sonic,
he was having a good time. Good. Yeah, and you
can tell, right? Everyone's trying, at least,
right? No, absolutely. Jim Carrey, obviously,
honestly, same as the first one, MVP of this
movie. They knew exactly what they were doing,
because I feel like, whatever, I wasn't there
when they made it, but it definitely feels like,
hey, Jim, just do whatever you want to do. Do
your thing, riff on the character, whatever,
who cares? And he's... It's peak 90s Jim Carrey.
Makes me very bittersweet that it sounds like
this is going to be his last movie. He's saying
he wants to be done. I think they can drag him
out for Sonic 3. Yeah, right. Definitely. I'm
not saying it's not an effort, but Sonic 3 feels
a little more like something you'd be willing
to do versus like... he's definitely not doing
another kick -ass movie. I know that. Right.
So I think he's doing Dumb and Dumber 3. Right.
Yeah. We don't talk about that. And I've never
seen them because, as the name implies, they're
dumb. The first one's great. Yeah. First one's
classic. My favorite movie. Oh, I love the first
one. No. No, it's not my favorite movie, no.
It was for a long time. It was for a long time.
Yeah. Yeah. The biggest... complaint i have with
this movie uh about 24 hours after seeing it
is it's about 20 minutes yeah it's really long
like 10 minutes we are we are like it's a full
two hours that is the absolute limit of how long
it can handle sonic yeah well and like for kids
too like yeah and it's very easy to point out
what scene should be cut there is a dance off
dance battle in siberia in siberia and it really
i my question as it happened was how much did
they pay bruno mars Mark Ronson to use Uptown
Funk. Because Uptown Funk is the song that brings
nations together. Sonic and the Siberians. So
who wrote this movie? The same people. Oh my
gosh. Is it? It is. I was going to look at their
names and then I realized you knew already. I
already knew. Pat Casey and Josh Miller, people.
The illustrious minds behind Transylvania. From
shoving weed up someone's anus. Wrong. Wrong.
Shoving weed up someone's anus wrong. Yes, the
wrong way. No, I'm not calling you wrong. The
weed went up the butt. I saw that happen. It
just went up the butt the hard way. Yeah. From
a weed dildo to... Idris Elba as the echidna.
Cheers to you, man! Cheers to you! It got some
chuckles out of me. Not every joke lands, but
some jokes, especially with Knuckles. I was honestly
skeptical going in with Idris Elba doing Knuckles,
but I'm down with Idris the echidna. I'm down
for it going forward. I love that. That was good.
We'll close out. and say that they did tease
the third film, which will happen. I think it's
already written in stone. And Shadow! Oh, wow.
Did they tease Shadow already? They teased Shadow.
That's an after -credits thing. So the question
that Andre and I have... Hold off. Can we finish
the movie? Are we still off this thing? What's
that? Oh, okay. Are we going to give a rating
first and then we'll talk about it? Yes, that's
what I was thinking, right? So, I guess... In
conclusion... In conclusion... This is... Sonic
2 is just more bigger, better Sonic 1. I mean...
But with less video games. Sometimes... I mean,
if you try to follow the narrative, it's just
dumb as a... dumb as bricks, but every time I
was about to check out of the movie, I'm like,
okay, I'm kind of over this. They had a cute
little reference to the video games and just
seeing Tails use his little, use his tails to
do the propeller thing to hold up Sonic and carry
him around. I'm like, oh, I've seen this on the
big screen. Very heartwarming and I really like
it a lot. That's awesome, yeah. So I will give
this three Chaos Emeralds out of five. Ooh, okay.
We'll give it a 3 .5. smash wedding cake out
of five okay okay all right so now can we talk
about the answer yes all right question to you
guys who's gonna voice shadow the hedgehog that's
what i want to know yeah so i learned something
today while looking at imdb jason momoa was in
consideration to play knuckles but had to back
out due to obligations for aquaman And according
to this IMDb trivia fact, which doesn't have
any credentials backing it up, he's now in consideration
for Shadow. He'd be a good choice. I think he
would be good. I told Andre last night, not knowing
the Jason Momoa component, they should get the
voice actor who voices Vegeta in the American
Dove for Dragon Ball Z to be Shadow. Okay. He's
on Critical Role. He's free. Yeah, sure. Is Christopher
Sabat on Critical Role? I thought you told me
it was uncritical. No, no, that's virile. We
were talking about it. We should get that guy
on. Sam Riegel? You want Sam Riegel? Sam Riegel
or Christopher Sedat. Okay. Okay. My pick is
Jon Bernthal. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, he
was telling me that last night. I just saw one
that just made me intrigued. For context, Claire,
Shadow is literally just mean, angry Sonic. He's
mega Sonic. He has a gun. No option. He's a hedgehog
with a gun. He did have a gun. He had a gun.
I need to... Oh, my God. Sonic the Hedgehog.
Sounds like we need to watch the Shadow the Hedgehog
intro cutscene. Yes. Oh. Yes. It's very good.
It needs to happen. Is that where he almost fucks
a human? No. That's Sonic the Hedgehog 2006?
06, yeah. It got real weird there. Yeah, it did.
Yeah. So I was just Googling who voices Shadow
in Sonic 3, and somebody had made a YouTube video
that is 35 minutes long. Why Keanu Reeves should
be Shadow the Hedgehog. Oh my God. I would buy
it. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. Yeah. Yeah,
I'm thinking I'm back. Like, let's fucking go.
Let's John Wick Shadow the Hedgehog. Yeah. Yes.
It was so obvious. How did I not think of this
before? I know, you're a fool. I'm not going
to watch the 35 -minute video. But you kind of
want to. I kind of want to. Color me curious.
He's already voicing Batman in that DC Pets movie.
It's true. Which we saw Travis Hart. Oh, yeah,
he is Batman. He's voicing Batman, not the Pets.
Because Ace was Kevin Hart. Ace is Kevin Hart?
Yeah. You didn't notice that in the trailer?
No, no, no, no. There's a lot of Kevin Hart in
that trailer. No, no, I'm having the realization,
oh, that was Ace. Yeah, yeah. I saw that trailer.
is the rock the rock yeah the rock part of that
and then I think John Krasinski is Superman right
Yes. John Krasinski is Superman. And that's a
good pick. So on the note of before we move on
very quickly we did see a number of trailers
before Sonic. What's coming? Well there's this
movie called Family Camp that looks just dumb
as bricks. I thought it was a Jesus movie but
it's not according to Andre. This family decides
to bond and they go to this camp but they didn't
pay so they end up in a yurt with this other
family and their dad and other dads then the
dad of the other family gets in the woods and
suddenly they're naked and wearing other people's
clothes and shenanigans. It looked dumb as fuck.
Oh, I get a little taster of the window? Yeah,
please. Enjoy. And then we also saw a trailer
for The Bad Guys, which looks quite... like the
art style for it i like the art style i just
dreamworks is bad guys and then finally nickelodeon
has a new is producing a new film which i guess
they haven't produced an animated film in quite
some time and i can't remember what it's called
but it just made me want to watch kung fu panda
because it's about a dog who wants to be a samurai
oh yeah dog the last dog samurai is kind of the
vibe that I got, right? Once again, just watch
Kung Fu Panda if you're itching for an appropriation
of an Asian culture. What was the... With animals.
There's a samurai movie where the main character's
name is Dog and he wants to be a samurai and
he's played by Forrest Whitaker. Well, it can't
be this movie because this one, the dog's named
Hank. This is like 2002 or something like that.
I don't know. Well, actually, a lot of people
say it's great because it's like Seven Samurais
kind of thing. Oh, yeah? It's like a Kurosawa
tribute almost, right? It is very loving. Hang
on, I'm looking it up. Sure. Morris Whitaker
IMDB. Let's go. I think his name was Dog. That's
what threw me off. That's better than Hank, the
dog who wants to be a samurai. I was like, Andre,
is that Elijah Wood or Michael Cera? No, I'm
like, it's Michael Cera, yeah. Ghost Dog, The
Way of the Samurai, 1999. Ghost Dog. 83 % on
Rotten Tomato. Ghost Dog. I've never heard of
this movie. It apparently was awesome. Ghost
Dog is a contract killer, a master of his trade,
who can whirl a gun at warp speed and moves through
this world like a phantom. Stealthy and evanescent.
It's not animated, by the way. No, I know. No,
it's live action. Yeah, no. We had it in our
head that it was like, oh, he's voicing another...
In the spirit of the samurai, he has pledged
his loyalty to a small -time mobster named Louie
who saved his life many years before. But in
Sonic 2, if you're a fan of Criminal Minds, Shamar...
Shamar Moore, I saw you... He's in it. Yeah,
yeah. He's great. Bro, holy shit. Because the
fucking plot. So this is the B plot where they're
all in Hawaii. It's because... Rachel's getting
married. Yeah, Tika Sumter's sister is getting
married. and is engaged to... Shamar Moore. Shamar
Moore. Randall. Yes, Randall. Randall, okay.
And this is where we mentioned that, like, we
talked about this before, where, like, how they
tried to make James Marsden look like the schlub,
you know? Like, they insecure, like... They're
playing volleyball. They're playing volleyball.
And, like, Shamar Moore is shirtless. Shirtless.
Shamar Moore is a very good person to make, usually,
people look like schlubs. Well, like, but James
Marsden still looks like Amazonish, you know
what I mean? But he just, the only difference
is that he has a shirt on, so you just, you can't
see his massive pecs. So, they can, because there's
a... like he does something with his hand and
he indirectly flexes and he's like, I see you
James, but I really can't get those guys. He
like dives for the volleyball and he misses,
but you can still see those goddamn pythons,
bro. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And he's
like, oh, it's whatever. I don't know if I can
keep up with this guy. I'm just kind of a normal
guy. In the first movie, Rachel, the sister,
really like, she kind of gets the shirt under
the stick. Sonic shows up and like kind of messes
with her house and destroys it. Well, like they
showed it in the trailer. Like, He kind of ruins
the wedding, too. Yes. Because they're snowboarding
down Siberia. The wedding's not real. Right.
The wedding's a fake out. He's an agent for Gunn.
He's an agent for Gunn. Did you play the Sonic
Adventure game? Yes. So Gunn's the thing in this
movie. So that's where they drop Gunn, and then
he's like... CIA, but Gunn. Yeah, CIA. Guardians.
Yeah, yeah. Guardians, United Nations. They say
the acronym, and then Rachel goes, really, Gunn?
Yeah, like they do the... So the wedding is...
farce as a front. So my favorite part of the
movie is the sisters teaming up because Donna
gets captured by them. So she just gets, she's
just like, I'm gonna kill him. So she's just
like casually chugging alcohol. She like steals
a golf cart. She's like, Randall, wifey's home!
And she's gunning to kill him. They're using
all of Tails' inventions because Tails is knocked
out cold. And they don't know what to do. And
they don't know what any of the gadgets do. And
she threatens Randall at gunpoint with Tails'
gadget. And she doesn't know, and then, like,
the dude, the head of gun is like, I don't think
that's a legit threat. And then she shoots a
cake and it blows it up. She's very good. And
then, you know, Randall's like, it wasn't, it
was never supposed to be this way. No, no, I
broke the... I broke the one rule of being undercover.
And I shouted at him, he fucked the bait. Well,
he didn't shout because there were kids there.
I said it, he fucked the bait. He said, I fell
in love. He pulled Paul Walker from Fast and
Furious. He did. Oh, and there was a Fast and
Furious reference where there was, I think it
was Knuckles who was something as old as Todd.
Oh, yes. And then Sonic's Vin Diesel hating The
Rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, because that
was the... Knuckles was expositing, like, Echindas
have always fought the other tribe, the Owls,
that Sonic is from. And he's like, for centuries,
and he's like, whoa, just like Vin Diesel and
The Rock. Oh, my God. You could tell Ben Schwartz
was having fun with the dumb one -liners. Oh,
yeah. Yeah, and there was a genre. There was
a genre. I'm sure I heard that. Yeah. But I'm
sure Brendan Schwartz got some time to improv
that kind of stuff. Oh, yeah. Right. I think
that's what I mean. It's fun. They knew when
to say, hey, this was a cute movie. Whenever
I have Spawn, they want to watch it. I'm not
going to be. It's not like family camps. Spawn.
Yeah, Spawn. That's what they call them. All
right. They're abstract. We're going to move
on. We are moving on. Speaking of franchises
that are doing just great in the theaters right
now. Making money and not pissing off fans. Yeah,
sure. Let's go with that. Sure. Yeah, sure. What
is the movie we're talking about, babe? Fantastic
Beasts. Fantastic Beasts, Secrets of Dumbledore.
Also known as Fantastic Breasts, Three Curates
of Dumbledore. I remember when there were fantastic
beasts and they talk about how to find them.
Yes. That doesn't happen anymore. No, they do
still find some beasts. They find some beasts?
There are some fantastic beasts. How's that Jacob?
My favorite character. Jacob? He's my favorite.
Who's Jacob? He's the human, the muggle. Well,
he's not a muggle anymore. Oh, Kowalski. Kowalski.
Because they call him Kowalski in this movie
a lot. Jacob! He's a baker. I know, but I just
forgot his name. Guys, is this movie good? No.
I haven't seen it. You haven't seen it, so shut
the fuck up. Yeah, like, Joe, you're pulling
a mic here, you know, with the fucking, like,
Star is Born shit. Come on now. I'm keeping an
open mind. That's true. No, I would never have
said Star is Born is bad, by the way. I just
said it shouldn't win an Oscar. Is it called
nose touching? No. Anyways. I thought it was
good. As a Harry Potter fan. Have you seen one
and two? Yes. Yes, I've seen every Harry Potter
movie ever. It is the best Fantastic Beasts movie.
Okay. Best of the three. I have not seen any
of these movies. That one was pretty good. It
was good. You're right. Now, in a Harry Potter
world, it still might be lower tier or just barely
above middle tier for me. I haven't thought about
it this way, but I think... Is there a Harry
Potter film that's worse than it? Yes. Bro, Chamber
of Secrets. Whoa. Order of the Phoenix. Order
of the Phoenix is pretty bad. Wasn't that your
favorite? No, Goblet. Goblet is my favorite movie.
I mean, Prisoner of Azkaban got destroyed by
whoever edited that film. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What?
Friendly Fire? Are you kidding me? I love that
movie. Oh, man. They never explain what the Marauders
are. I guess I'm biased because that's my favorite
book. It's my favorite? How are you okay with
the movie? I don't know. Anyways. Anyways. I
thought it looked cool. I don't know. I say this
is my favorite Fantastic Beasts movie. Okay.
I'm not saying it's amazing like you need to
drive over there. Sure, sure, sure. I'm just
saying of the three, I think this is on the same
level as one, maybe a little above. Sounds like
they ended on a high note. Well, yeah, that's
what we're going to get into. Yeah, I feel like
out of the three of them. The first one was really
good for me. Yes. It was a nice tight concept.
Yes. And I was just so excited to have another.
And the characters are fun because I saw the
first one. Yes. The second one felt like side
mission the movie. Yeah, I just forget about
the second one. Yeah, there was just a bunch
of side things where they're like, we have to
go here because this thing. We have to go here
because of this thing. And it felt that way.
My understanding was that the second one, it
ended up being less about the Fantastic Beasts
and Newt Scamander, right? It was more about
wizard fascists. Well, that and then like Queenie
and Kowalski took the... They ruined Queenie,
from what I know. Yeah. Queenie was tough in
the third one, too. Well, Queenie is not the
Queenie that you know from the other ones in
the third movie, for sure. She's still siding
with Grindelwald. She's working with him. TLDR.
She's on the good side in the first film. In
the second film, things happen. She can't have
her way, so she decides to side with the big
bad. She's definitely very much in his inner
circle in the third movie. Because she can read
minds. And so Grindelwald keeps sending her on
missions, especially with... With people that
he has come visit him. Yeah, and especially with
people he doesn't necessarily trust, like the
third Dumbledore brother. That being played by,
so this leads into a discussion. Wait, isn't
Ezra Miller? You can spoil everything for me.
It is Ezra Miller. He has Aberforth's son. I
don't care. I'm never going to watch any of these
movies. I just forgot that it was played by Ezra
Miller. Do you want spoilers or no? I don't give
a shit. Okay. All right. Well, that's what we'll
go into. So the reason I wanted to bring it up,
it is Ezra Miller, who is the son of the second
Dumbledore brother. Aberforth. Aberforth. Thank
you. I couldn't remember his name. So he's Dumbledore.
Albus is... He's the son of a Dumbledore. Hey,
don't be smirch Dumbledore. People who haven't
watched Fantastic Beasts... No, he's the son
of a Dumbledore. Well, you know, like, his sister?
He's a bastard. Okay. Harry Potter fans, you
obviously know Aberforth if you've watched the
later of the Harry Potter movies, because he
has a bar and keep, I guess. Yeah, he's important
in books seven and six. Yes, and Hogsmeade, and
he has a tunnel to and from, and a picture of
Georgiana, blah, blah, blah. Wasn't he, he gave
the core three their gifts as well from Albus?
like the beetle the bard and the snitch the snitch
yes he's who harry kept seeing in the mirror
he thought it was dumbledore's yeah right oh
okay got it got it in a six yes he learned that
that's his brother and there was a sister but
you learn kind of more about how she died in
this movie yes which is i mean it's not like
pivotal but it's very interesting because it
is albus's fault But she died. She was an Obscura.
Which is what Ezra Miller is. Yes. His character
is. Credence. Yes. So, this brings up the point,
though, that I had about this movie that's not
really about this movie. How many actors are
no longer associated with it? No. Good point,
but no. Good point. So, Ezra Miller, as we sit
here now. He's having a bit of a hard time. He
got arrested twice. Just a bit of a hard time.
So far, twice. I don't want to be that guy, but
Ezra Miller's preferred pronouns are they, them.
They are having a bit of a hard time. So, they,
them has been arrested twice. They were also
called seven times in the last three weeks to
the police. Right. They are having a very hard
time. Not a good look for them. So, my question
is this. What is his celebrity level? They. What
is their celebrity level? Do they face consequences
for their actions? Or are they going to be able
to get off with it? And the reason I bring this
up is somebody like Alec Baldwin, for example.
Sure. This whole thing happened with Rust where
he killed someone. But it feels like Alec Baldwin.
I have this sickening feeling in my gut. That
he's going to get off with it. Yes. Or like community
service slap on the wrist. Well, that's a little.
How much involvement he had with the behind the
scenes. I would say that's a much more complicated
situation. Yeah. Right. Right. Given that it
was a prop on a set, et cetera, et cetera, et
cetera. But a set he ran. Yeah, absolutely. No,
no, no, no. I'm not saying that. And he was apparently
goofing around when this happened. Sure. Okay.
But I'm saying. There's a very different situation.
This is not a court. Mike is saying at the very
basic level, if you take all the extra stuff
out of it. I think Alec Baldwin will not make
another movie for quite some time. But he'll
still get to make one. He will eventually make
another film. Ezra Miller has been arrested.
And we know that they committed assaults, you
know what I mean? Multiple times in a short amount
of time. And I'm pretty sure there's clear malice
with those actions. It also begs the question
of, you know, this is just a short amount of
time that this has happened. So, like, we don't
know what's going on in their life that caused
it. So, yeah, it sounds like they're having a
hard time. But it also begs the question, like.
Have they gotten away with a lot more in L .A.
or wherever they live? I don't think Ezra Miller
is untouchable in this situation. I think there
will be consequences. I do not think... I think
Flashpoint's going to come out. I think this
is going to be released and just thrown to the
wolves. What I was going to say is I don't think
they're going to get signed on for a franchise
deal. What I remember getting reading was that
Warner Brothers had an emergency meetings essentially
about the first arrest for Ezra Miller. Now the
second. Basically what Andre said, Flashpoint
will come out because it is filmed and they cannot
hold this film back for much longer otherwise
The risk of irrelevancy is there. And they will
quietly replace Ezra Miller with somebody else.
I know the fans really want the TV series. Grant
Gustin. Yeah, the TV series. And I was going
to say, quick aside because we're running over.
We are. Grant Gustin. TV Flash. On the Flash.
Got it. Yes, no, Grant Gustin should be the Flash.
Oh, yeah. Sure, why not? I don't care. It's a
logical option. I'm not saying he's a fine actor,
I guess, but the CW shows are not a good barometer
for quality, in my opinion. No, it's not, but
there's a way that they could do some post -production
edits. Also, second, seventh sidebar. didn't
they just, like, isn't there, like, rumors that,
like, DC wants to over, or Warner Brothers, rather,
I guess, wants to totally overhaul DC. Like,
they want to get a Kevin Feige type to rein it
all in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like, oh,
they're looking for a Kevin Feige type person.
I'm like, okay, great. Like, that's like saying
I want a Steph Curry type person for my basketball
team. Great. Sure, I'm sure everyone does. That's
great, yeah, but how are you going to get it?
Yeah, right. I think DC needs, I think Warner
Brothers needs to let go of a DC cinematic universe,
and I know with that, press release that andre's
referring to they said they want to focus more
on films like the joker which are like stand
intentionally standalone right how many of those
can they make before they're like the key part
is they want to revive they want to revitalize
key characters like superman i'm very excited
by that i hope that they do i'm still hoping
for a black superman Sure. Michael B. Jordan.
Yeah, Michael B. Jordan. Dude, yes. I want, it
doesn't matter what, like, it doesn't matter
who plays him, I want a Superman that's optimistic
about humanity. That's what I want. Yeah, maybe
the guy from Bridgerton, Reggie something or
other. Reggie, Sean Page. Yeah, put him in as
Superman and his sexy five eyes. back to Fantastic
Beasts. Sorry, we were talking about Harry Potter,
weren't we? Yes, we were. We gotta get back to
it just so we can finish the episode. We are
not going to do Cash or Trash at this point.
I'm telling you guys right now. We've been rambling.
We are at over an hour. Woo! And we also have
dinner reservations sometime in the near future.
We do. Maybe. Yeah, I know. But I'm just letting
you know. I thought it was good as a fan of the
Harry Potter series. It got a lot more political,
too. It's a lot more political. It is dark. But
all the movies have been dark for a while. That's
not a new thing. So this is like a preamble to
World War II, right? Yes, it's like right around
the time of World War II. And you can definitely
see echoes of that in the movie. So you know
what? I forgot about that. And now that you say
that, even more so. Yeah, because it's like the
30s, right? Yeah. 30s, like... edging on 40s
and you can definitely like there are scenes
where you're like yep they're in Germany they're
at like dinners and stuff and it's definitely
like Third Reich -ish. That's why Grindelwald
is doing what he's doing is because he knows
about what's coming. He wants to stop World War
II by doing his own version of it. He wants to
start a war between muggles and wizards. And
he wants to destroy the muggle world. He wants
to commit muggle genocide. He wants the wizard
to reign supreme. I mean, okay. Yeah, alright.
Yeah, and so that's the whole thing. In this
particular movie, there are two people that are
up for the director of the Ministry of Magic.
And Grindelwald becomes the third runner in this
race. That's very German history right there.
That's... Yeah, because he was like magically...
He was like, you know... I don't know, released
from all of his skepticism. This is who Mads
Mikkelsen is playing, right? Yes. He's recused
by Colin Farrell and Johnny Depp. He's been recused
of all of his crimes. Yes. Words are hard. That's
right. And that was the launching point. How
is Mads in this? I like Mads a lot. He's like
the perfect evil person. Sure. Literally, I have
reimagined every villain at this point as Mads
Mikkelsen. I want to see an image of Mads Mikkelsen
smiling because I cannot imagine it in my brain.
cannibal. He smiles a lot. He's creepy. I did
watch that. Bro there's a teaser trailer for
Death Stranding where he smiles creepily villainously
but he smiles there. Do you think they'll make
the other so with the Fantastic Beasts they were
supposed to have five films. Yes. The Secrets
of Dumble 4 is not coming. Yeah I feel like Mike
and I were talking about before we even went
and saw this movie. There was like talk of like
oh it could be a big cliffhanger because what
if another movie is not made. I think that they
wrapped up this movie very well. so that if it
happens to be the last movie for a while, it
ends fine. That's what I heard, that they went
out of their way to tie up the loose ends. Yeah,
but they could easily have another movie if they
need to. The rumors are that Warner Brothers
is waiting and seeing how this movie performs.
Yeah, I think they probably will. Well, and it's
the worst opening for a Harry Potter movie ever.
Well, Sonic 2 beat it out on its second weekend
when it came out. Fully, I'm expecting it's over.
Yeah. Me too. Not the Wizarding World. No. No
way. But the Fantastic Beasts. They're probably...
I've heard... discussion about what they're eventually
they're going to wait some time and they're going
to do some we're going to get a Bellatrix Lestrange
we are right so I mean like first off like they're
coming out with Hogwarts Legacy that the prequel
video game is going to come out I honestly think
it's going to do huge yeah it's going to do very
well it's going to set in the early 1900s and
that brings it back yeah and it's going to set
up whatever the next movie is well even if it
doesn't right like that's like what you want
out of a Harry Potter video it's like open world
Harry Potter like open world Hogwarts game do
whatever like you know Go to classes. People
love Hogwarts. People love Hogwarts. Exactly.
I have a question and a comment. So the comment
I have is one with whatever the future of the
Wizarding World is, it's similar to the Star
Wars. They need to let go of Harry Potter. I
don't care about any of the connected tissue
that brings us to Harry Potter. I don't need
Dumbledore. I don't need any of that connected
tissue. It's very telling that A, this movie
is called Secrets of Dumbledore, and B, all of
the marketing that I've seen is a clip of Dumbledore.
Played by Jude Law. well no not even well yes
but the commercial is like a clip from the old
movies and it's just like oh well it's a quote
about memories or something like that and it
shows old Dumbledore looking back at Jude Law
and it's like oh like you Newt isn't even in
this promo so that's my question not Newt is
Trina in this Trina was Queenie's sister Queenie's
sister no like for less than five minutes so
that actress Sam Waterson's Daughter. Like Law
and Order. Sam Waterston. I know who that is.
Oh, that Law and Order. I was thinking of another
one. Something Waterston. Lady Waterston. Lady
Waterston. I'll get it for you. So prior to the
film coming out, a lot of Harry Potter and Eagle
Eye fans were like, wait a minute, because she's
very important in the first film. That's kind
of what brings it all together. And since J .K.
Rowling came out with her chances. Katherine
Waterston. Since J .K. Rowling came out with
her stances, Katherine Watterson has progressively
tried to separate herself. Well, I think that
kind of blinds out a lot of people that are working
on various Harry Potter projects. Oh, it blinds
out the fandom. So, well, absolutely. Well, and
I want to call out real quick that, like, the
Harry Potter devs, or the Hogwarts Odyssey devs,
they've purposely, whatever, I'm capitulating
here, I guess. J .K.'s always going to get money,
but. They made it so that you can be whatever
gender you want in Hogwarts Legacy. You can have,
you can have, whatever. They've made a point
to say during character creation. Gender is not
a factor. And what I see here is she's going
to get money no matter what happens of the next
Wizarding World movie, but she's no longer going
to be connected. No, I think that the studio
is not going to have her write anything. The
only reason she still was on this one is because
she still wrote Fantastic Beasts, so you had
to have her included. And contract obligations
were existing. Well, right, I think she was signed
up for five movies, right? Yeah, exactly. So
she may still get two movies somewhere in there.
But I can't really imagine. To be honest, I really
can't. But even that, I mean, I think even she
would walk away at this point. Because she just
gets money. Now she can just get money from the
property without doing shit. And she will. Yeah.
Except keep opening her mouth and saying horrible
things. She shouldn't. Death of the author. No,
exactly. And this is why my favorite book series
is their author is dead. Yeah. Jake, I love you,
Tolkien, but I'm happy you're in the group. Yeah,
well, right. How many women are in Lord of the
Rings? I'm a huge Lovecraft fan, but I hate Lovecraft.
Oh, God. Well, Lovecraft is much more obvious,
but it's a blessing that Tolkien never had a
Twitter account, and that's what I will say,
right? It's a blessing Lovecraft never did either.
Yeah, exactly. Yes. I think if they're going
to make another Harry Potter movie, they're going
to bring one of the core three back. I think,
I know Daniel Radcliffe said he's done. Um, but
like you bring back Hermione, you bring back.
I think he's down. I don't know. Emma Watson's
not going to come back. Or Draco. Whatever. Did
you see them return to Hogwarts? Like that special?
No. I watch it, and I kind of feel, I mean, because
Rupert Grint has that, whatever, that apple tea,
the, no, Servant? Severance? No, Servant. He's
done Servant. I was going to say, wait, what?
There's Severance, and there's Servant. Yeah,
he's got, like, his own thing going on. Last
time I heard about Rupert Grint, he had an ice
cream truck. You know what Servant is, though?
I feel like they're not really going to come
back. And next, Shenomena. Shenomena? Did you
see Old? Yes. Was it good? No. Okay. Great. So,
whatever. The core three are doing their own
things right now. You're skeptical. I don't think
that they'll come back. Daniel Radcliffe and
Emma Watson have on record said they would not
come back. Yes. Well, right. But I think that
if I'm the studio, I'm going to try to find a
way to bring it back to Hogwarts and bring it
back to... Yeah, they're going to do Cursed Child.
Oh, this person is Harry's... They're going to
do Cursed Child bullshit. Well, this is why I
said we're going to give Bellatrix a strange
origin story. Who needs that? Nobody! But we
didn't need Cruella either and Cruella outperformed
everything. You know, Cruella had like 60 years
on Bellatrix. I don't think, yeah, you're right.
I don't think the Wizarding World is done nearly.
No, no, no. Harry Potter will continue to be
a thing in some either film or TV series format.
Well, think about it. If they recreate it like...
people like our age like i we grew up at the
age of harry potter like i grew up with the age
of harry potter i was very into it so like whenever
we have kids i'm like oh we should go see this
yeah you'll love this like i would want to bring
whatever the harry potter it is like i'm still
always gonna be interested and want to see it
i also do not think we'll ever see a remake of
the original harry potter unless they turn it
into a miniseries there should not be there shouldn't
be they did it as well as they could yeah even
though it kicked off the trend of part ones and
part twos it did that's funny i mean like harry
potter did that and then twilight did it and
then and then it stopped for a while oh no hunger
games right And then Diversion tried to do it.
Maze Runner. Maze Runner did it. And then that's
what kind of killed it. No, Diversion kicked
the bucket on it. Diversion did. And then Dune
brought it back, baby. Classy. Classy ad. Let's
go. Dune 2023 part two. Let's go. Which didn't
even market itself as a part one. Well, right,
because that's very telling that Warner Brothers
decided not to market it as part one because
I think they knew. Like, if we say this is Dune
part one, no one's going to fucking watch this
movie. Anyway. Anyways. Getting away from here.
It is a read. What do you guys think? Give a
slap rating on it. Alright, I'm interested in
your number. Is there a Niffler in this thing?
Huh? Niffler? The little porcupine? Yeah. Oh
yeah. There's always one of those. Niffler does
not go away in the... Automatic. Niffler's like
the minion. Automatic capital R. A little tree
thing. A little baby group. Both of those are...
If they make another one... They're iconic. to
this movie. If they make another one, they will
still be front and center. Those two were in
every movie front and center. May Eddie Romaine
finally move on from this unfortunate I actually,
no, I'm with you on that. And he's done a lot.
He was the best part of Jupiter Rising. I think
back to Jupiter Bad. Yeah, whatever it was. No,
it's Jupiter Ascending. It is Jupiter Ascending.
No, Jupiter Bad. Anyways, I give it three suitcases.
Three? Okay. I have a 3 .5. Ooh, is Newt Scamander's
brother hot? Yes. Cool. And he has more screen
time in this movie. Yes. I give it two out of
five hot brothers without having seen it. Damn.
Thanks, Joe, for your expert opinion. But I'm
with you. I'm in love, my friend. Yeah. I am
with you on Eddie Redmayne needs to get past
this. Yeah. And not because of anything. He deserves
better. He's still great. Yeah. Newt Scamander
was pushed to the side. He does a very good move.
Newt Scamander is very good. Having not seen
any of these movies, the reason I have a chip
on my shoulder is I'm mad about Newt Scamander.
The fact that the second one came out and it's
like, oh, he's barely, he's in it. And that's
what I'm saying too. His Newt Scamander is amazing.
But the character of Newt Scamander gets pushed
to the side. He's not the hero of his story.
And when they were originally pitching this idea,
of like we're gonna do five movies of this thing
like oh that's really cool like we're gonna we're
gonna see a whole entire side like yes like i
i remember the book from the the fantastic piece
of where to find the book from i think was it
chamber of secrets or whatever whatever they're
chomping at him like oh that's a fun little tangent
yeah you know that's fun i'm interested in finding
out how that book was made right well and then
the second movie came out it was like oh dumbledore
is back in and i wish they would have done more
like animal stuff because like the animals were
fun yeah i want i want magical harry potter pokemon
man yeah Pretty much. Gotta pet them all? Yeah.
Gotta pet them all. Ain't that hard. We're gonna
get Ryan Reynolds voicing Niffler. No, make him
like a... What's in the third book? It's not
a Hufflepuff. It's the thing. Badger? Bucky.
Oh, what? Bucky? Buckbeak. Oh, Buckbeak. A griffin.
No, he's a hippogriff. Hippogriff. Hippogriff.
That's why I said Hufflepuff. Get Hufflepuff.
Hippogriff. I want a badger. I want to get a
badger. Mushroom. Mushroom. If you remember the
fourth movie, they had the yule ball. They had
the dance like a hippogriff song. Yeah. That
song rocked. Okay. Cool. Yeah. I love Goblet
of Fire, so I'm all for it. Hopefully you can
do that dance in Hogwarts Legacy. Okay, go ahead.
Open the ember. Do you think it's safe to dance?
Anyways, R .I .P. the Fantastic Beasts franchise,
most likely. And R .I .P. Credence. I... R .I
.P. I would say boy, bye, but... Wait, he died?
I don't know. He is assumed to have died. It's
ambiguous. And also, given the real world events,
come on, what? Are you kidding me? But he actually
really wasn't in the movie a lot. But he's not
recorded in the second movie! I know I'm very
very happy but he really isn't in the third movie
a lot and I don't know if that was like retroactive
yes like if they went and cut him out a bunch
I don't think so because all this drama is opening
up way after this I think they literally they
ran out of ideas with him yeah and then when
they got well yeah because they did the second
movie he like blew up and then everyone's like,
okay, that's it. He blows up and then what else?
Yeah. As in blows up as in, oh, it's revealed
or like, no, he blows up. Like he's in Obscura
and he gets mad and then he like, it's all like
cloudy. He blows up a house. Yeah, he blows up.
Okay. Everyone blows up his mom in the first
one. Yeah. Right, and he finds out he's a Dumbledore
and gets pissed at Dumbledore because he's like,
why don't they love me? Maybe that's Ezra Miller
acting out. I was about to say, Ezra Miller has
darkness in their hearts. That's all I can say.
Great bone structure, though. Sure, yeah. Good
looking. Looks good in a dress. Looks good in
pants. Well, what I was going to say was... The
thing with Ezra Miller is I think they ran out
of things to do with them. Sure. I think he's
not the only character in that series to have
had that happen. They brought in Dumbledore,
which is Jude Law, who outshines him, in my opinion.
And then they had Mads Mikkelsen, and they were
like, we need to make Mads Mikkelsen the star
because it's Mads Mikkelsen. Well, I just think,
what else could they do with Credence's character?
The whole second movie was about him. This movie
was about getting him back to the Dumbledores.
It is about him, but it's really not. It's about
the other Dumbledores and the bigger story arc
of Mads Mikkelsen and Grindelwald. You know how
we were talking about Warner Brothers wanting
to restructure the Justice League, like all of
the DC stuff? It's almost like with Harry Potter,
they blew that. reveal way too early i don't
know i don't know where that came like why they
decided that soon if they were thinking okay
we said we'd make five but we're gonna do it
film by film yeah i think with this movie the
movie where they're like you're a dumbledore
you're a dumbledore yeah but like also like brought
The way that I see it, he should have been less
Obscura -y in the second one and maybe more so
in the third one because I think it would fit
with the vibe of the movie because it's dark.
It's very dark. Everybody's mad. They're trying
to take over a certain war. I think it's revealing
that they just don't have a roadmap right now.
They didn't script it out. They did not script
it out. So I think if you're Warner Brothers
and you take some time, you step away from the
Wizarding World for a little bit. In any franchise
you have your hands on. Well, sure. But like...
Let the dust set a little bit with all this stuff
around it. And maybe just start with small scale.
Do a prestige television show. We're good. You
guys are getting mad at me. I'm looking at the
date. This is April 22nd, 2022. Happy Earth Day!
Happy birthday. I'm talking like 2025. Say, hey,
whatever streaming service that Warner Brothers
has money in. Ready? HBO. HBO, yes. I've got
a prediction. What? October 2026. Yep. The next
Wizarding World movie comes out. But it's not
Fantastic Beasts. It's not Fantastic Beasts.
Finish your page. I'm saying this is where it
comes. Voldemort's daughter. You can put it in
your calendars. October 2026 is when I say the
next Wizarding World movie comes out. Okay, so
I would say in October 2025, we get our... I
didn't know you had a small penis. Excuse me.
So are you going to say in 2025 we're going to
get the trailer and then in 2026... No, no, no,
no, no, no. We are going to get, exclusive to
HBO, Max. miniseries for the Wizarding World.
I'm not going to say maybe the Augur. I already
called bullshit. Do what? We already went through
the HBO app, the HBO Go app, the HBO Max app.
It's going to be called HBO Play or something
like that. You know what? HBO My Money. You're
exactly right. HBO My Money, daddy. It's just
going to be HBO Plus. Yeah, right. It'll be HBO
Plus like everybody else is trying to do. Yep.
And it'll be like the Augur's Wizarding Cross.
mini series. My prediction is... Oh, I'm ready
for the... What is it? Oh, shoot. What's his
name? Fuck. David Tennant. Barty... Crouch. Barty
Crouch. The Barty Crouch story. Whatever. I don't
know. The Barty Crouch Chronicles. This series
isn't going to die. How does he become a death
eater? Harry Potter is fine. It's not going away.
My prediction, if we're going to really go this
route, is the next Harry Potter Wizarding World
production. will somehow or another find a way
to skirt around the fact that the main three
will not come back sure maybe rupert grint and
they'll do a cursed child yeah series sure adaptation
probably either way this series makes too much
money to no yeah well that's that's also the
fourth movie of the jk rowling five movies guaranteed
there you go so because to make a cursed child
make a cursed child i don't need to see that
it'll be it'll be cursed indeed to scream yeah
Alright, we gotta close out. We gotta. We gotta.
Thanks for including me. Of course. It was lovely
to have you. You guys did do ratings. Yes, three.
And I said three and a half. I'll go three and
a half scorpion spiders. I love those things.
Those things were cool. Yeah, yeah. Or crab scorpions.
That's what they were. They're crab scorpions.
And I'll give it a trans rights or humans rights
out of five. That's my rating. Okay. And I'll
give, get Ezra Miller some help. I think they
need it. Yes. Did you see it? No, I just. We're
jumping off. We're getting on the broomstick.
Join in. Join in. I didn't want to. Do the crab
scorpion. I'm crabbing. I'm crabbing. We're dancing.
Alright, that'll do it for Game for a Movie where
we ask, are you game for a movie? We're all crab
scorpion. Thanks for having me. I've been Mike.
I've been joined by Jill. Andre. Claire. We'll
see you next time on Game for a Movie. Bye.