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You know what that sound means. It's game for

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a movie time where we ask, are you game for a

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movie? My name is Mike. I am joined by Jill Mitchell

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and our special guest. Mark has joined us again

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for our secondary episode of the Oscar nominations.

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We are making our predictions. We have also been

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drinking. You can hear in the first episode what

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we were drinking. We're starting this one off

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with international feature film. The nominees

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are drive my car. Flee, the hand of God, Lunana,

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a yak in the classroom, and the worst person

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in the world. I've heard of three of these. Oh,

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good. What three have you heard of? Drive my

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car, flee, and the worst person in the world.

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I've heard of two of those, drive my car and

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flee. Well, yeah, so I'll just be, I'll go first

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then, I guess. I've only seen two of these, but

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one of which I have seen, I think is a definite

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for sure is gonna be drive my car from Japan

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because it's nominated for best picture as well.

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And it's really hard to like, yeah, no, no, no.

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I mean, it makes sense. If you're nominated for

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best picture and international feature, you're

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gonna probably at least win international feature.

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I'm sorry. Parasite nominated for an international

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film. Okay. Yeah. I don't think it's got that.

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I don't think it's got that momentum though.

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I've heard way less about drive my car than I

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did about parasite and parasite is, I guess we're

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going for thinking of it as a, as a better movie.

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It's definitely more rewatchable. I think it's

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an easier watch. This one's a much more slow

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one. You have to be much more by both. You have

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to be invested in. But anyway, point being, I'm

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going to drive my car. I'm going to drive my

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car as well. And I just want to bring up about

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parasite because we need to talk about it. When

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parasite one best picture somebody in this chat

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cried. That was me. Are you kidding me? Are you

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kidding me? I was I OK, so I didn't guess that

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one when that happened. I thought it was going

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to be that 1917. And when that happened, I was

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I didn't care. I was so happy that it parasite

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one. It was one of the few good moments of the

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year 2020 because it happened right before the

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pandemic hit. So, yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

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I'm going to drive my car, too, just so we all

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know. And the perfect job. Talk about plea. Let

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me hear it. Animated. It's nominated actually

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in International Feature Film, Documentary Film,

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and Animated Films. So it actually is going to

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be in two more categories that we're going to

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see coming soon. I don't know much about it,

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but it's animated. And you know what, I like

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cartoon. I think Drive My Car, since it will

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be nominated elsewhere, it probably will win

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this one. I don't know if it's going to win.

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Best picture overall, but you know, we're, we're,

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we're now squarely in the part of the podcast

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where we're talking about films. I genuinely

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just have not seen it all. Like summer of soul

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is going to come up and I know of it, haven't

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seen it, but I bet that's a really good film.

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I'll throw my hat in the ring for it to win something.

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So it's a good transition in the mic. Yes. Documentary

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feature here. The nominees, Ascension, Attica,

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Flea. Summer of soul or when the revolution could

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not be televised and writing with fire. And I

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need it to be summer of soul. It was so damn

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good. You did see that? I did. Yeah, I saw it

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too. I saw it. Oh, my God. Oh, get back to be

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nominated. Oh, no. That's where I think that's

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because it was one of those weird issues where

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it was like also a TV show kind of thing. That's

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right. It was. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I guess maybe

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you'll get it. Maybe got it at me. nomination.

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Yeah. I was more surprised to, uh, the rescue

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didn't get one that one from, uh, Disney plus,

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uh, which was about the rescue of those, uh,

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that soccer team of 12 year old boys and, uh,

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the Philippines or something must cause his hands

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in the, in the academy. And he's like, I don't

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want to be reminded of how I totally failed at

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helping. Oh, that's all like, I'm really happy.

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It's a shame that that's the element of that

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affair that I remember is that Alon, my opinion

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of Alon like further bottomed out because he

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doesn't know the word no. So Summer of Soul,

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the music was amazing. The storyline was great.

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I absolutely loved it. I'm 100 % for it. That's

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what I'm going to pick just based on Love Alone.

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It might not win. I don't care because I absolutely

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loved it. It's one of my favorite movies of last

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year. And we talked about this category without

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bringing up Questlove. And I feel like that's

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a big part of why this movie has so much fanfare

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around it. Right. People love Questlove from

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the roots. And Summer of Soul is the favorite,

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not a heavy favorite. It's minus 250 and Flea's

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number two at plus 200. But Summer of Soul is

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my pick as well. And fingers crossed it would

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become, I believe, the first film ever in Oscar's

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history to be referred to as a John. And that

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is a very Philadelphia slang. Yeah. Yes. Questlove

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calls it his John. So it's like Spike Lee has

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joints. Questlove has John. There you go. Yeah.

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Yeah. I'm, uh, I would say I'm still saying some

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are sold too. That was in like my top five of

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last year. It was phenomenal. But I will say

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also watch out for fully too, because as we know,

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it's going to be, it's got one more category

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we're doing here soon and animated. And honestly,

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I think documentary cause it's nominated on three,

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which is like a first for any movie, which is

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very rare. Yeah. Yeah. And there's also, so there

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could be a way of wanting to spread love for

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it and saying, well, we hate to leave it, you

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know, going home empty handed. There's also the

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fact of what the subject is about, that it could

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kind of relate in a sense to what's happening

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in Ukraine right now. So I'd say watch out for

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that. I still think it's going to be summer.

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So also I did see Attica. Attica was a tough

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world watch. a good watch for the two. So yeah,

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but Summer of Soul is my pick. I looked it up

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because I was curious to see if it got nominated

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for both international and animated Waltz with

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Beshear, but I think it was only nominated for

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the international. It was then... I've been needing

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to... That's been a... Yeah, that's a movie I've

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been needing to see for a long time. It's very,

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very good. With regards to the films in this

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category, Summer of Soul is also my I have not

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seen it, but I really, really, really wanted

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to. I just never got around to doing it. It's

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on Hulu now, I think. Yes, it is. Is it also

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on Disney Plus or is it just Hulu? I think it's

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just Hulu. I've only seen it on Hulu, but I haven't

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looked for it on Disney Plus. Yeah, I haven't

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looked for it. I need to sort out my access to

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Hulu. Someone I know has it. I just need to get

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the login info. I wouldn't be shocked because

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it's been nominated that it would be on Disney

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Plus. I really want to see it. I think that besides

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just what the story is, the music will be phenomenal.

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Literally one of my favorite lines in a movie

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last year was all about, it's the summer of 69

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and it is on Disney Plus. It's the summer of

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69 and they were asking people at the festival

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about landing on the moon and it still relates

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to me today. where the guy goes, why do I care

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about landing on the moon? We still got problems

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here. Yeah. Oh, it's stuck with me. Oh my God.

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I'm getting chills. All right. I need to stop

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talking about this movie. Not because of anything,

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but because I love it. Best animated feature.

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That is what we are doing. Animated feature.

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Jill, you're going to get us started after I

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name the nominees because I know this is you.

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Animated feature film. The nominees are Encanto,

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Flee, Luca, The Mitchell's versus the Machines,

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and Raya and the Last Dragon. All right. Well,

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I have seen four out of the five. The only one

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I have not seen is Flea. I will start with the

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film that I will be pissed if it wins, and that

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would be Raya and the Last Dragon. I have now

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seen it. I am not a fan. It's not a horrible

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movie by any means, but it is by far the only

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Disney movie that comes to mind where the film

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actively hates its protagonist. I don't think

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that film is worthy of the award. If I could

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have it my way, I would love to see the Mitchell's

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versus the Machines win. I think the story is

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fantastic. I think the humor is great. I think

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the message about getting older and the relationships

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you have with your family and how they evolve

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and how reminding you that even if your family

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is weird and somewhat dysfunctional, you still

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love each other and that we all make sacrifices

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for our art or for our family and that's how

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we show love. I think it's a really great film.

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I do think the actual winner will likely be in

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Canto because it's such a juggernaut that it

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would probably be an upset if it didn't win.

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I think Luca If the Mitchell's versus the machines

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wasn't on here, as well as in Canto, I think

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Luca would also be a really great contender.

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But I think it's just getting overpowered by

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some other big heavyweights. So Mitchell's versus

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the machines is who I'd love to see when I actually

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think it'll be in Canto. Yeah, I think he said

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it. No, I mean, I think in Canto is the favorite

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here from the odds that I'm looking at Mitchell's

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in the machines is number two on this. betting

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odds. My only red flag within Kanto, and I don't

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want to get too heavy with this, is their potential

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for backlash against Disney based on Bob Chapick

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stance or initial stance on the don't say gay

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bill. So that is the one time where I could see

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backlash against Disney as a company shows up

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in this award ceremony. And this is obviously

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a category that Disney traditionally, whether

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through Pixar or Disney animation itself, has

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dominated. I think it'd be really interesting.

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But would it go to Mitchell's versus the machines?

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I'm not sure. I don't feel that confident. So

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I am ultimately going to pick incanto. But I'm

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just going to plant that seed in everyone's thoughts

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here. I think the thing what's going on with

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JPEG is I would hope that especially You know,

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if Incanto had more queer themes in it and then

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it won in contrast to what has come out with

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Chapek and the Disney company, I think that would

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be where the controversy is. How do they just

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win an award for a film where it's all window

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dressing? That's not the case. I also do think

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that Incanto was probably in production long

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before Chapek took control. Oh, for sure. I know

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it doesn't start and stop and end with Chapek,

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but I wouldn't want them to decide not to give

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it to Encanto just because it's like, oh, we're

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going to make a stand. And this is the, this

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is the goat. This is a sacrificial goat that

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we're going to, we're going to do. And then that

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was, that was the, the hill they died on. And

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it's like, no, I rather have, if you're going

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to take to Disney to task, do it in a far more

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meaningful way than just denying them a statue.

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I'm with you. I just want to stir the pot a little

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bit. I want Mitchell's versus the machines to

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win just because of the Furby scene alone. I'm

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gonna go with Mitchell's Versus Machines. I think

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it has a chance at least with Lord and Miller

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lately, especially with Spider -Verse doing so

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well. There's a chance that it could just keep

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going. I think it's going to probably be in Kanto,

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but I am hoping and I am going to put on my official

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sheet, Mitchell's Versus Machines. So I'm just

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going to try to overlook what Jill said because

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out of all these five, my actual favorite was

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Raya and the last dragon. Wow. We can, we can,

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we, well, we can, but I know we got more categories

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to go through. So that's good. Let's could do

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it. We could do that another way. That's also,

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is that a way of me saying, Hey, I can come on

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the show again? Probably. No, I think it's, My

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pick is for Encanto, but I would not be surprised

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if Mitchell's Versus the Machines pulled off

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an upset. Mitchell's Versus the Machines is the

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better movie, I think. But I do think like before

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with Encanto, the constant soundtrack going through

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everyone's head the last however long is probably

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going to be there for them to vote for Encanto.

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Makes sense. I would also say that it's similar

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with like Luca. It really comes down to the year

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that these films come out and what else they're

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up against because another year with different

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films in there like Indespicable Me 3 or Hotel

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Transylvania 4 and then like Raya or Luca it

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would be very obvious who wouldn't win and then

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it would be neck to neck would it be Luca or

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would it be Raya but when you've got other films

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in there that Better. It's hard. Get ready for

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Minions 2 this summer. Oh, and Puss in Boots

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something. Oh, and DC League of Superpets. All

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right, so we move now to writing adapted screenplay.

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The nominees are Coda, Drive My Car, Dune, The

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Lost Daughter, and The Power of the Dog. So it

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should be noted that, as we said before, we were

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recording this on Saturday. One of the precursors

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that has not happened yet are the Writers Guild

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Awards, and those are definitely something to

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take into place. So at least for me, my prediction

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will not be finalized. Now, sometimes it's weird

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because the WGAs is weird because sometimes you're

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not eligible to be nominated for it because you're

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not a member of them. Like Quentin Tarantino

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is not a member, so he was never nominated for

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a WGA, which is weird when you think of it. Yeah.

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So for me, I'll just say quickly, it's a lot

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of logic is going towards power of the dog, which

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is kind of where I'm going at, but Again, I gotta

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wait until the WGA comes up because I'm really

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thinking there could be a strong case for CODA,

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which is a movie I'm definitely gonna be talking

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about later on. What's interesting there, Mark,

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is that the Power of the Dog is not nominated

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at all for the WGA's. Correct, yeah, CODA is.

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Exactly, so I'm personally gonna pick Power of

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the Dog here. I think this is where the momentum

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starts to swing in their favor in the awards

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show and ultimately leads to you know, the big

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one. But if Coda were to win this category, look

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out. I think that could completely lead the direction

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of what we see in best picture. Yeah. Definitely

00:16:03.450 --> 00:16:06.809
agree. 100%. What else? Jill and I are trying

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to figure out who goes next. There's only one

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here that I've seen. I don't know if Dune. wins

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for adapted screenplay like I will tip my hat

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to adapting the whoever adapted the source material

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on that must not have been easy because they

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needed to keep the fan they wanted to honor the

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fans of the original source text, but they also

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needed to fix bits of it for you know updating

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it. I don't really know much about coda. or The

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Lost Daughter. I did the thing that you're not

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supposed to do if you really like movies. I Wikipedia'd

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the plot for The Power of the Dog because I knew

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I was not gonna have an opportunity to see it

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but I really wanted to know what it was about.

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I still, I will still see it and I'm sure I will

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still enjoy it nonetheless. I agree with Mitchell.

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I would say that this is probably the start of

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where The Power of the Dog's momentum is gonna

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begin. I'm gonna say The Power of the Dog, but

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I would be surprised if Dune took it. I wouldn't

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be disappointed, just, well, okay, they went

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there. Okay, so just to be clear, Joe, when we

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get to the acting category, so are you gonna

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be like, I'm gonna go for Benedict Cumberbatch,

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because from what I read in Wikipedia, his performance

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sounded so cool. No, I wouldn't say it sounded

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cool. It sounded complex. I'm just making sure

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you're not relating entirely on Wikipedia. No,

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I'm not relying on Wikipedia for calls. Also,

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Benedict Cumberbatch is a good actor, regardless

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of what you put him in. Benedict Cumberbatch.

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I can abstain from saying anything. And when

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we get to the acting stuff, if that makes people

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feel better or films I haven't seen. No, I want

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your opinion. I don't care whether you've seen

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it or not. I'm going to say Power of the Dog.

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That is the one I've seen of this list. But also

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because I think it is a very good screenplay.

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I think there are very good moments that are

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caught in this. It's funny. I wish you guys didn't

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go first. because I probably would have been

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stuck between Dune and Power of the Dog. Now

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you got me thinking Koda. So that's why I'm like

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fully in the Power of the Dog mode. So yeah,

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I think for the rest of the way, sorry, experts.

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Shut the fuck up. Until we get to you. Because

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I mean that in the best way possible. Let us

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let the plebs. Yes, because you threw me on this

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category. Originally, I was probably going to

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go Dune, but you threw me to Power of the Dog.

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Obviously, I would have made my decisions after

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this episode and I would have probably changed

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it, but just for this thing alone. I'm guessing,

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yeah, okay. I needed to go and see our list,

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but I was guessing original screenplay was next.

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Original screenplay, Belfast, Don't Look Up,

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King Richard, Licorice pizza, the worst person

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in the world. I'm gonna go licorice pizza. I

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think this is when they start taking over as

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well. And Paul Thomas Anderson, the movie looked

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crazy insane and everything, but it looked like

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Paul Thomas Anderson. You saw a trailer for it

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and you knew what you were getting into. I had

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an argument for King Richard. But now looking

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again, I'm thinking Licorice Pizza. I'll also

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say Licorice Pizza. I haven't seen any of the

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films in this category. I really wanted to see

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Licorice Pizza, but primarily based off of the

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trailers, I think I saw the definitely the first

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one that they dropped, maybe the second one.

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Everything about it looked like a film I would

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really like. And the story seems like a classic

00:20:06.549 --> 00:20:10.670
Paul Thomas Anderson story. So that's who I would

00:20:10.670 --> 00:20:14.410
throw it to. Agreed completely on that one. All

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right, experts. Now you can go. So I'm going

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to go PTA as well for licorice pizza. He's been

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nominated for an Oscar. I'm just looking at IMDB

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now 11 times, and that's including this year's

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nominations. And I feel like he finally gets

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his Oscar trophy here. I'm not sure if he'll

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ever win a best director, but this is one of

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those awards where the Academy looks and says,

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hey, you may not be a best director guy for us,

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but you are. someone who could win for best screenplay.

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They've done this with Tarantino. Most notably

00:20:43.910 --> 00:20:46.849
recently, they've done this with Spike Lee for

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a black Klansman a few years back. He has been

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nominated for his writing in Boogie Nights, Magnolia,

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There Will Be Blood, Inherent Vice, which is

00:20:54.990 --> 00:20:58.430
a movie that not a lot of people loved. But he

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still got that nomination anyway. Yeah. Yeah.

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It's interesting he got nominated. He didn't

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win for There Will Be Blood because that... That's

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a fantastic film. That was a really tough year

00:21:09.869 --> 00:21:11.349
that year. Yeah, I was going to say, I don't

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remember what other films it was. Was that 2006?

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I think about 2007. I think it was No Country

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for Old Men. Yeah, that makes sense. Tough year,

00:21:20.970 --> 00:21:23.930
very tough year. Yeah, against the Coens, yeah.

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Yeah, exactly. It's tough. Yeah, licorice pizza

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for me. Mark, what do you think? I've seen four

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out of these. I never got around to worst person

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in the world which I've heard many good things

00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:41.880
on. I think it is potentially a two -way race

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in a sense between licorice pizza and Belfast.

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Brana is also someone who has not won before

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but in the end I would be going with licorice

00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:57.900
pizza as well too if I had to. So yeah. Okay,

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I'm not finding it. I was trying to find the,

00:22:01.259 --> 00:22:03.720
all right. So I was trying to find the nominees

00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:07.700
for that year. It's all good. We'll move on.

00:22:08.500 --> 00:22:12.619
Yeah, we're gonna go to, where am I? Best supporting

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actress. We get to the big stuff now. And not

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because we think anything about the categories

00:22:22.779 --> 00:22:25.279
doesn't deserve love or anything like that, but

00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:27.769
let's face it. When you get into your Oscar pools,

00:22:27.869 --> 00:22:31.190
these are the big ones. So actress in a supporting

00:22:31.190 --> 00:22:33.910
role, we have Jessie Buckley for The Lost Daughter.

00:22:34.109 --> 00:22:37.569
We have Ariana DeBose for West Side Story. Judy

00:22:37.569 --> 00:22:40.450
Dench for Belfast. Kirsten Dunst for The Power

00:22:40.450 --> 00:22:43.170
of the Dog. And I'm not going to get this right

00:22:43.170 --> 00:22:51.509
for King Reggie. Anjanu Ellis. Anjanu Ellis,

00:22:51.690 --> 00:22:53.950
okay. I actually feel all right with that one.

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I happen to know the best odds for this one.

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I would have probably voted for somebody else.

00:23:01.670 --> 00:23:04.990
But Jill, why don't you go first? And then I'll

00:23:04.990 --> 00:23:07.890
tell the best odds that I think would win. So

00:23:07.890 --> 00:23:11.809
based off of just what I've heard, I've heard

00:23:11.809 --> 00:23:15.309
Kristen Dunst in The Power of the Dog is fantastic.

00:23:15.410 --> 00:23:18.529
And I've also heard really great things for Ariana

00:23:18.529 --> 00:23:23.240
Du Bois for West Side Story. I haven't really

00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:26.240
heard any other buzzes for the other nominees.

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So just with those two, I'm actually gonna get

00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:34.799
it to Ariana. I heard, cause she doesn't play

00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:41.059
Maria. She plays the - Anita. Anita, thank you.

00:23:41.259 --> 00:23:43.740
She plays Anita and those are big shoes to fill.

00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:45.799
So the fact that I'm hearing really great things

00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:47.960
and that she's a scene stealer, you know, why

00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:49.660
not? I think this might've been one of her first

00:23:49.660 --> 00:23:52.420
films too, so. let's see let's hear let's give

00:23:52.420 --> 00:23:56.059
it to the new talent so i think the odds are

00:23:56.059 --> 00:23:59.480
with ariana debose i could be very wrong uh that's

00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:02.140
my vote uh kirsten dunce was excellent in power

00:24:02.140 --> 00:24:05.000
of the dog ingenue ls i heard great things in

00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:08.720
king richard i mean all of these women deserve

00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:11.440
the love they got um i don't know if there's

00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:13.740
anybody on this list i would have replaced any

00:24:13.740 --> 00:24:16.839
of them with but ariana debose is who i think

00:24:16.839 --> 00:24:20.259
is going to win um just based on what i've heard

00:24:20.410 --> 00:24:22.829
Oh, I will, I will take it back. Ariana, this

00:24:22.829 --> 00:24:26.029
is not her first, her first movie. She's actually

00:24:26.029 --> 00:24:28.809
in the prom, which in a former, a previous episode

00:24:28.809 --> 00:24:30.930
I ripped apart. She's not good at the prom. Yeah,

00:24:31.269 --> 00:24:33.450
I remember that. She's not good at the prom.

00:24:33.809 --> 00:24:36.859
I remember. Yeah. I remember that episode. I

00:24:36.859 --> 00:24:38.799
was going to be like, was it really that bad?

00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:41.319
I thought it wasn't. I didn't think it was horrible,

00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:45.180
horrible, but okay. The TLDR don't make plans

00:24:45.180 --> 00:24:46.980
with someone. And if the second person in the

00:24:46.980 --> 00:24:48.839
group is not into the idea, then don't do them.

00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:52.539
That is the best way to describe it. But yeah,

00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:55.920
I've just heard really great things for her role

00:24:55.920 --> 00:25:01.380
as Anita. So stick there. I'm a rookie TLDR.

00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:07.119
What does it mean? Too long didn't read. Too

00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:11.460
long didn't read. Oh, yeah. I didn't know that.

00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:14.420
No, no, I always see it. I kind of figured what

00:25:14.420 --> 00:25:17.299
it is, but I use that expression with my students

00:25:17.299 --> 00:25:18.880
all the time because I can tell that they just

00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:20.660
don't want the long explanation. So I'm like

00:25:20.660 --> 00:25:23.000
TLDR, you click this button and then your search

00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:25.039
will be done for you. Too long, didn't read,

00:25:25.220 --> 00:25:27.480
sorry. Thank you for asking, Mike. I had no idea.

00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:29.680
I had no clue. Oh, really? Wow. Yeah, I had no

00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:32.640
clue. Me and Jill, we're just on a different

00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:34.839
plane of existence, I guess. Exactly. Tech savvy,

00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:39.279
I guess. All right, you two need to decide your

00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:41.859
actress and supporting role. Mark, I'm not sure

00:25:41.859 --> 00:25:43.880
about you, but I think this category is pretty

00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:46.819
straightforward. Ariana DeVos. It is, yeah. Yeah.

00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:52.460
So I've been doing this, predicting these for

00:25:52.460 --> 00:25:55.279
like, since like the year 2000 or so since I

00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:58.619
was like 13 and there are a few of the categories

00:25:58.619 --> 00:26:02.799
that I can kind of remember uh knowing how I

00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:05.700
did each year and looking back this is the category

00:26:05.700 --> 00:26:08.200
I actually have I probably have the best track

00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:10.980
record with and I don't think it's gonna end

00:26:10.980 --> 00:26:14.039
this year Ariana Dubose is definitely the front

00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:17.539
runner here like Joe was saying she had to fill

00:26:17.539 --> 00:26:21.019
the shoes of Rita Moreno from the original is

00:26:21.019 --> 00:26:26.640
far from any sort of easy task. And yet she managed

00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:33.440
to do it. Yeah, she, she's, it'd be a shock if

00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:35.980
anyone else won this that was not Arianna Dubose.

00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:39.039
And Rita Moreno won her Oscar for the same role.

00:26:39.500 --> 00:26:43.900
There's a legacy to the role of Anita. So we'll

00:26:43.900 --> 00:26:47.839
see if if if the same thing happens again. Yeah,

00:26:47.859 --> 00:26:50.200
yeah. All right, so we're all on the same page.

00:26:50.259 --> 00:26:54.619
Let's go actor in a supporting role. Our nominees

00:26:54.619 --> 00:27:01.740
are Kieran Hines, Troy Kotsur, Jesse Plemons,

00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:08.380
JK Simmons, and Cody Smith McPhee. You can start

00:27:08.380 --> 00:27:11.680
this one, Mike. Okay, so everything I've heard

00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:13.980
about this one, I don't know the odds on this

00:27:13.980 --> 00:27:16.220
one. I knew the Ariana one. I don't know the

00:27:16.220 --> 00:27:19.930
odds on this one. The fact that Jesse Plemons

00:27:19.930 --> 00:27:22.730
and Cody Smith McPhee are nominated together,

00:27:22.730 --> 00:27:25.950
I think almost cancels them out. For Power of

00:27:25.950 --> 00:27:28.289
the Dog. Yes, for Power of the Dog. I'm sorry.

00:27:28.490 --> 00:27:30.950
Yes. All right. So Kieran Hines from Belfast,

00:27:31.190 --> 00:27:34.369
Troy Kotsur for Dakota, Jesse Plemons and Cody

00:27:34.369 --> 00:27:36.569
Smith McPhee from Power of the Dog, and J .K.

00:27:36.670 --> 00:27:38.950
Simmons from Being the Ricardos. I didn't know

00:27:38.950 --> 00:27:41.650
J .K. Simmons was in Being the Ricardos. Likewise.

00:27:42.670 --> 00:27:46.250
Yeah. So that says no. Kieran Hines, I'm sure

00:27:46.250 --> 00:27:51.980
is great, but that... The mental mind games I'm

00:27:51.980 --> 00:27:54.980
playing make it Troy Katsura for Kota for me.

00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:01.140
I've heard nothing but great things, but really

00:28:01.140 --> 00:28:03.839
I'm going process of elimination here more than

00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:06.299
anything else. And I think that's fine when you

00:28:06.299 --> 00:28:09.779
make your predictions because honestly, that

00:28:09.779 --> 00:28:13.150
probably leads you with what's the best. The

00:28:13.150 --> 00:28:15.029
fact that I didn't know JK Simmons was in Being

00:28:15.029 --> 00:28:17.670
the Ricardo's is already enough to be like, nope,

00:28:17.750 --> 00:28:22.890
mm -mm. Yeah. I think I know why with regards

00:28:22.890 --> 00:28:24.809
to the two actors from Power of the Dog, they're

00:28:24.809 --> 00:28:27.829
both put into supporting. They wanted to pave

00:28:27.829 --> 00:28:31.130
the way for one person in particular. And that's

00:28:31.130 --> 00:28:33.769
based off just what I now know of the plot and

00:28:33.769 --> 00:28:36.170
all of that. I would have thought that at least

00:28:36.170 --> 00:28:40.220
Cody, Smitt, McPhee would have been also. He

00:28:40.220 --> 00:28:42.319
seemed more like a main character than a supporting

00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:46.019
one. I did hear fantastic things though about

00:28:46.019 --> 00:28:50.480
both Jesse Plemons and Cody's performances. So

00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:51.960
a part of me doesn't even want to pick and just

00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:53.359
say it's going to go to someone from Power of

00:28:53.359 --> 00:29:00.119
the Dog. But I'll give it to Cody just based

00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:06.119
off of what I've heard and what I know. If it's

00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:08.539
true, the reason they put them both here so they

00:29:08.539 --> 00:29:11.700
could clear the path for Benedict to get an Oscar,

00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.160
maybe. I don't know if that's totally fair, but

00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:17.920
you know, I think credit should be given, even

00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:20.619
if it's kind of, you know, give them the full

00:29:20.619 --> 00:29:22.339
credit. Don't be like, oh, well, we did this

00:29:22.339 --> 00:29:24.940
so we could ensure one. But don't worry, we're

00:29:24.940 --> 00:29:26.900
still going to acknowledge you, but you're not

00:29:26.900 --> 00:29:28.799
getting the nomination you probably should have

00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:32.819
gotten. That's just me. So I think power the

00:29:32.819 --> 00:29:35.420
dog. is essentially going to split the votes

00:29:35.420 --> 00:29:38.099
for itself here, which in my opinion is going

00:29:38.099 --> 00:29:41.740
to clear the way for Troy Kotzer for Coda. That's

00:29:41.740 --> 00:29:44.380
my pick here. And also just on the performance

00:29:44.380 --> 00:29:46.339
itself, I had just watched it last night. So

00:29:46.339 --> 00:29:49.140
a little recency bias, but you want to talk about

00:29:49.140 --> 00:29:52.140
characters that just pop off the screen that

00:29:52.140 --> 00:29:55.220
feel real and seem kind of like a good hang.

00:29:55.259 --> 00:29:57.680
Like I really wish I would know someone like

00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:00.799
this real life. But Troy Kotzer, I thought was

00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.390
incredible in Coda. one of my favorite parts

00:30:03.390 --> 00:30:07.190
of the movie. So he is gonna get my nod here

00:30:07.190 --> 00:30:11.170
for supporting actor. I think it should also

00:30:11.170 --> 00:30:14.309
be mentioned that it doesn't always split the

00:30:14.309 --> 00:30:18.089
vote many years. There have been years in like

00:30:18.089 --> 00:30:20.730
the past like decades ago where like for the

00:30:20.730 --> 00:30:22.470
Godfather or something where they'd have like

00:30:22.470 --> 00:30:25.210
three of the five nominees. And that would obviously

00:30:25.210 --> 00:30:27.890
be a reason why that might split the vote. And

00:30:27.890 --> 00:30:30.829
even then it might not have. But yeah, I'm going

00:30:30.829 --> 00:30:36.299
Troy Coulter too. because as I told Mike beforehand,

00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.519
a couple of days ago, when he decided to take,

00:30:41.819 --> 00:30:45.400
when he, when he, but when I told him he should

00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:48.180
watch Koda because I think Koda is the best movie

00:30:48.180 --> 00:30:52.839
of 2021. I still think that he decided to say,

00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:56.740
no, I'm going to watch Hellraiser instead. Now

00:30:56.740 --> 00:30:59.900
in fairness, now in fairness, I've not seen Hellraiser.

00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.279
But it's very good. It was sure it is. But I'm

00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:07.099
pretty sure that I would rather like Koda in

00:31:07.099 --> 00:31:11.700
general. The ending of Koda Koda is like, I mean,

00:31:11.859 --> 00:31:16.000
Troy Kotzer, he he also from what I understand,

00:31:16.220 --> 00:31:18.859
too, he's from what I've been seeing. Also, you

00:31:18.859 --> 00:31:21.380
know how they also like to give awards to people

00:31:21.380 --> 00:31:23.619
who can do well at giving speeches. He has been

00:31:23.619 --> 00:31:26.769
doing really well at. giving his speeches and

00:31:26.769 --> 00:31:29.410
being, you know, kind of humorous and heartfelt

00:31:29.410 --> 00:31:33.109
at the same time and stuff of that nature. And

00:31:33.109 --> 00:31:34.970
then, of course, there's the whole he'd be the

00:31:34.970 --> 00:31:40.690
first male actor deaf to win an Oscar. So, yeah,

00:31:41.450 --> 00:31:46.049
I'm going Troy Kotzer here. OK, I feel good about

00:31:46.049 --> 00:31:50.670
my pick now. Best actress is our next category.

00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:56.039
If you're watching this one is driving me crazy

00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:58.859
among all the categories. This is the one. Oh,

00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:00.640
you got the list right there though. Just scroll

00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.779
down. Yeah, there it is. No, no, I had to go

00:32:03.779 --> 00:32:05.559
back. I accidentally clicked the wrong thing.

00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:08.539
Okay. So our actress in a leading role, the nominees

00:32:08.539 --> 00:32:11.720
are Jessica Chastain, eyes of Tammy Faye, Olivia

00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.519
Coleman, lost daughter, Penelope Cruz, parallel

00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:17.319
mothers, Nicole Kidman being the Ricardo's and

00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:22.440
Kristen Stewart Spencer. Mike, did you start

00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.920
the last one or did I? I did. I'll start with

00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:29.259
this one. Okay. So we're in the situation of,

00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:33.220
I have not seen any of these films, but there's

00:32:33.220 --> 00:32:37.759
one actress whose performance really got a lot

00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.839
of positive feedback and who I think would be

00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:43.779
a really great story of winning the leading actress

00:32:43.779 --> 00:32:46.019
role. And that's actually Kirsten Stewart for

00:32:46.019 --> 00:32:50.910
Spencer. I heard that she was fantastic. fantastic

00:32:50.910 --> 00:32:55.890
as Diana and that the film itself is not quite

00:32:55.890 --> 00:32:57.930
what you think it's going to be. Yes, it is about

00:32:57.930 --> 00:33:00.309
the life of a week in the life of Diana. I think

00:33:00.309 --> 00:33:05.339
it is. It's a week. But it's like us. high stress

00:33:05.339 --> 00:33:08.880
tension film. And she carries all of that is

00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.259
what I've heard in the performance. And I used

00:33:11.259 --> 00:33:14.819
to really not like Kristen Stewart, um, primarily

00:33:14.819 --> 00:33:17.980
in the Twilight era. A lot of my dislike of that

00:33:17.980 --> 00:33:20.859
films got landed onto her lap. But in the last

00:33:20.859 --> 00:33:24.180
five or so years, her my opinion of her has turned

00:33:24.180 --> 00:33:29.039
done a complete 180. And I am now quite a fan.

00:33:29.140 --> 00:33:33.559
I really enjoyed her in the undersea. a horror

00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:35.799
film that I'm blanking on its name right now.

00:33:35.819 --> 00:33:37.660
Underwater. Underwater. I was going to say it's

00:33:37.660 --> 00:33:39.220
like deep water, but I think that's it. No, it's

00:33:39.220 --> 00:33:41.059
just underwater. Yeah. Underwater. I really enjoyed

00:33:41.059 --> 00:33:43.519
her in that. And I'm really looking forward to

00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.400
seeing what else she's doing because it seems

00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.819
that she really just can't, she can't miss now

00:33:47.819 --> 00:33:50.920
with the films that she's doing. And then she's

00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.700
also like one of the better parts of the Charlie's

00:33:53.700 --> 00:33:55.380
Angels remake that they did a couple of years

00:33:55.380 --> 00:33:59.019
ago. So she made that good. That plus the happiest

00:33:59.019 --> 00:34:01.730
season. I haven't seen a happier season. I need

00:34:01.730 --> 00:34:04.569
to. It's very good. Like she, she's very good

00:34:04.569 --> 00:34:07.869
at it. Delightful. Um, I've ruled two out again.

00:34:07.869 --> 00:34:11.730
It's the, uh, process, uh, Nicole Kidman and

00:34:11.730 --> 00:34:13.550
Penelope Cruz. I haven't heard anything about

00:34:13.550 --> 00:34:16.269
Penelope Cruz and Nicole Kidman just does not

00:34:16.269 --> 00:34:19.989
look like Lucy to me. I'm sorry if you saw it

00:34:19.989 --> 00:34:21.949
and you liked her in it. I'm sure she's great.

00:34:22.170 --> 00:34:24.070
I have no problem with it, but she just doesn't

00:34:24.070 --> 00:34:25.949
sell the character to me. So I was stuck with

00:34:25.949 --> 00:34:28.829
the last three. Uh, Jessica Chastain I've heard

00:34:28.829 --> 00:34:31.659
is really great. Olivia Coleman I can't bet against,

00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.599
but I am going with Kristen Stewart as well.

00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:39.559
For Spencer, that is what I've heard is a life

00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:42.780
-changing role for her. Just more so because

00:34:42.780 --> 00:34:45.659
now everybody sees Kristen Stewart officially,

00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:50.260
officially as the good actress she is versus

00:34:50.260 --> 00:34:53.380
just a girl from Twilight. We've needed these

00:34:53.380 --> 00:34:55.860
performances and the glow up from the Twilight

00:34:55.860 --> 00:35:01.449
actors and actresses. both her and Robert Pattinson

00:35:01.449 --> 00:35:04.989
this year finally hit that role. Robert Pattinson

00:35:04.989 --> 00:35:07.090
might've hit it earlier, especially because Good

00:35:07.090 --> 00:35:09.630
Time was excellent, but this is the first one

00:35:09.630 --> 00:35:12.710
for Kristen Stewart that I feel like now she's

00:35:12.710 --> 00:35:14.969
actually being considered for those excellent

00:35:14.969 --> 00:35:18.849
roles, not just good, great roles. This is the

00:35:18.849 --> 00:35:21.800
one that elevates her star status. particularly

00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:24.000
for Kirsten Stewart, at least good, great indie

00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.119
roles. I feel like she became a darling of the

00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:29.579
indie films for a couple of years too. But yeah,

00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:34.460
this is the reinvention of Kirsten Stewart. I

00:35:34.460 --> 00:35:37.119
agree. Mark, I'm gonna have you go first here.

00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:42.739
Yeah, so this, I know this is easily the one

00:35:42.739 --> 00:35:46.869
main category. this year that if I miss it, I'm

00:35:46.869 --> 00:35:49.590
not going to feel bad about because and it was

00:35:49.590 --> 00:35:51.650
the same last year. I think it's even more up

00:35:51.650 --> 00:35:56.030
in there this year because last year when Frances

00:35:56.030 --> 00:35:57.949
McDormand won, you could at least say, well,

00:35:58.050 --> 00:36:00.030
she also won because she was in the best picture

00:36:00.030 --> 00:36:03.369
winner. None of these actresses are in any of

00:36:03.369 --> 00:36:06.130
the best picture nominees. Now, I have seen all

00:36:06.130 --> 00:36:10.139
of them and I'm so first off, just going off

00:36:10.139 --> 00:36:13.219
of what Mike said for Nicole Kidman, she may

00:36:13.219 --> 00:36:16.039
not have not looked entirely like Lucy, but she

00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:19.059
definitely sounded like her. She really definitely

00:36:19.059 --> 00:36:26.539
had that voice down. Yeah. So in the end, because

00:36:26.539 --> 00:36:29.960
she's been getting some of more of the precursors

00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:33.000
and because there's a lot of a little bit of

00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:36.699
a it's her time type thing. For now, my vote

00:36:36.699 --> 00:36:39.179
is going to be going with Jessica Chastain for

00:36:39.179 --> 00:36:44.300
The Eyes of Tammy Faye. But again, like I said,

00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.860
if there's one thing you want, you should not

00:36:47.860 --> 00:36:51.039
take my word on, it's this category. And also

00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.239
going with Kristen Stewart, I did see that and

00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:55.639
I know there are a lot of people didn't like

00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:58.579
it. I actually did enjoy that movie, which way

00:36:58.579 --> 00:37:02.349
it took. And honestly, I would She might be my

00:37:02.349 --> 00:37:05.090
pick here if I were personally voting. The thing

00:37:05.090 --> 00:37:07.369
is, though, is that she was on a talk show recently,

00:37:07.369 --> 00:37:09.809
and she literally said she does not want to win

00:37:09.809 --> 00:37:15.409
an Oscar. Yeah, she said that on Jimmy Kimmel

00:37:15.409 --> 00:37:19.969
earlier this week. Yeah. So, I mean, sometimes

00:37:19.969 --> 00:37:22.010
that doesn't matter. Like back in the 70s, I

00:37:22.010 --> 00:37:24.590
think it was George C. Scott who won an Oscar,

00:37:24.630 --> 00:37:28.730
even when he said, I don't want an Oscar. But

00:37:28.730 --> 00:37:31.989
yeah, so anyway, I'm thinking it'll be Jessica

00:37:31.989 --> 00:37:35.750
Chastain, but definitely do not quote me on that.

00:37:36.510 --> 00:37:40.230
So the odds, just according to I'm looking at

00:37:40.230 --> 00:37:42.269
DraftKings and I'm cross referencing with Gold

00:37:42.269 --> 00:37:44.989
Derby. The odds are basically organized like

00:37:44.989 --> 00:37:49.289
this. The lowest odds Penelope Cruz and then

00:37:49.289 --> 00:37:52.010
tied for third, Kristen Stewart and Olivia Coleman

00:37:52.010 --> 00:37:55.110
at plus 500. Nicole Kidman is the second favorite

00:37:55.110 --> 00:37:58.829
at plus 250. at Jessica Chastain, a very, very

00:37:58.829 --> 00:38:01.510
slight favorite at minus 150, but still the favorite,

00:38:01.510 --> 00:38:04.449
right? So she has been getting more of the awards.

00:38:04.449 --> 00:38:07.429
She got the SAG most recently, which is a big

00:38:07.429 --> 00:38:10.449
momentum swing for her. And the thing about Kristen,

00:38:11.150 --> 00:38:13.750
yes, exactly. So she's racking them up in that

00:38:13.750 --> 00:38:16.650
way. Kristen Stewart early on, like, if you look

00:38:16.650 --> 00:38:20.530
back to last year, 2021, she was an early favorite

00:38:20.530 --> 00:38:23.670
to win in this category. but then we see her

00:38:23.670 --> 00:38:26.150
not get nominated at SAGs and all these other

00:38:26.150 --> 00:38:29.530
things happen in between. And frankly, people

00:38:29.530 --> 00:38:32.349
were surprised or the people I've read were surprised

00:38:32.349 --> 00:38:34.809
that she got this nomination. So do you look

00:38:34.809 --> 00:38:37.429
at the nomination as her getting recognized by

00:38:37.429 --> 00:38:42.210
the Academy for what is a very particular take

00:38:42.210 --> 00:38:46.170
on Princess Diana? And in the movie, I personally

00:38:46.170 --> 00:38:49.219
did not enjoy, but The more I think about her

00:38:49.219 --> 00:38:51.539
performance, the more I thought, wow, she was

00:38:51.539 --> 00:38:55.260
doing a ton there. And it's really remarkable.

00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:57.800
That's my thing that I've heard about it was

00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:02.559
the movie is divisive. It is. That's what makes

00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:05.039
me a little bit cold for voters saying, you know

00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:07.300
what, I'm going to vote for this if they don't

00:39:07.300 --> 00:39:10.599
have a good feeling about the movie. This is

00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:14.039
tough. Yeah. Kristen Stewart would be a big swing.

00:39:14.549 --> 00:39:17.389
and it would be a huge, or not a huge, but it

00:39:17.389 --> 00:39:19.349
would be an upset, quote unquote, if she were

00:39:19.349 --> 00:39:23.090
to win. I'm gonna go for it. Why not? Kristen

00:39:23.090 --> 00:39:26.550
Stewart, I'm gonna put her down for now, but

00:39:26.550 --> 00:39:29.590
I have the right to reserve it by my opportunity

00:39:29.590 --> 00:39:33.150
to change as we get closer to Oscar Sunday. Okay.

00:39:34.210 --> 00:39:36.269
That brings us to best actor, the best actor

00:39:36.269 --> 00:39:39.369
in a leading role. Nominees are Javier Bardem

00:39:39.369 --> 00:39:42.070
for Being the Ricardo's, Benedict Cumberbatch

00:39:42.070 --> 00:39:44.960
for The Power of the Dog, You got it right. Good

00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:48.960
job. What? You got Benedict's name right. Good

00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:51.360
job. Oh yeah. Well, the joke is on the internet.

00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:54.599
No, I've said it right every time except for

00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:57.440
once. Once on purpose. There's a joke on the

00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:59.719
internet that everybody calls him like Benadryl

00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:06.000
Cucumber Patch. Exactly. It's a meme. Andrew

00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.280
Garfield for Tic Tic Boom. Will Smith for King

00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:11.349
Richard and Denzel. for the tragedy of Macbeth.

00:40:11.570 --> 00:40:13.030
I say Denzel because I don't need to say his

00:40:13.030 --> 00:40:16.090
full name. He has one name. That's him. Happy

00:40:16.090 --> 00:40:17.630
he doesn't go by one name though. It's Denzel

00:40:17.630 --> 00:40:20.230
Washington. Denzel Washington who's one of my

00:40:20.230 --> 00:40:22.789
favorite actors so it kills me in the fact that

00:40:22.789 --> 00:40:25.690
I'm going for Will Smith of all people but King

00:40:25.690 --> 00:40:29.670
Richard he had to create a character that was

00:40:29.670 --> 00:40:32.269
based on a real person and from what I've been

00:40:32.269 --> 00:40:37.119
told he did. I have seen two of these Being the

00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.059
Ricardo's Javier, I'm sure was great, but I didn't

00:40:40.059 --> 00:40:43.139
hear anything big about it. Tick, tick, boom,

00:40:43.380 --> 00:40:47.000
Andrew Garfield I heard was phenomenal. I saw

00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:52.500
Benedict Cumberbatch and knew I loved it. But

00:40:52.500 --> 00:40:57.360
this year Will Smith as King Richard is the favorite.

00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:01.280
It's the darling. This is the one I had an easier

00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.260
time with just because I've seen all the other

00:41:04.300 --> 00:41:08.000
awards nominated for him. Everybody else has

00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:10.280
kind of been all over the place. So I'm going

00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:14.139
with Will Smith. And I would have loved to bend

00:41:14.139 --> 00:41:16.559
it. Coverbash won though. I would have loved

00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:20.800
it. Power of the Dog was so good. I'm going to

00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.239
give it to Andrew Garfield for Tick Tick Boom.

00:41:23.500 --> 00:41:26.300
I think his portrayal as Jonathan Larson, as

00:41:26.300 --> 00:41:29.840
you said, it's, it is fantastic. He wears so

00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:33.199
many different emotional faces throughout the

00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:37.539
film. And sometimes he's changing emotion within

00:41:37.539 --> 00:41:40.880
under 10 seconds from the highest of highs to

00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:44.400
the lowest of lows. And, you know, he is portraying

00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:48.159
a real person as well. And what's really, really

00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:50.800
clever about the film is that it's the story

00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:57.960
of Jonathan Larson trying to put together a workshop

00:41:57.960 --> 00:41:59.980
production of another show that he was working

00:41:59.980 --> 00:42:02.079
on. I think it was like Subsperia or something

00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.579
like that. This really strange sci -fi thing.

00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.400
And then, so that's like what the main story

00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:11.179
is. But the way the framing device is this, what

00:42:11.179 --> 00:42:15.219
was originally a one -man model. one man play

00:42:15.219 --> 00:42:17.820
called tick tick boom that then they readapted

00:42:17.820 --> 00:42:20.519
into three people so Jonathan Larson and then

00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:23.860
two backup singers so he's telling his story

00:42:23.860 --> 00:42:26.480
while performing it and then you actually see

00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:30.099
him act out the story and then there's additional

00:42:30.099 --> 00:42:33.320
layers of acting and it's fantastic and something

00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.019
I didn't know is that he could he was not a trained

00:42:36.019 --> 00:42:39.000
singer they when um when Lin -Manuel Miranda

00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:41.380
casted him he didn't even know if he could sing

00:42:41.380 --> 00:42:47.710
and manual No, Manuel. So they didn't, like,

00:42:47.710 --> 00:42:51.630
you know, the fact that they put their eggs in

00:42:51.630 --> 00:42:54.010
a basket they didn't even know could do the thing

00:42:54.010 --> 00:42:56.530
is insane to me. And you wouldn't know he was

00:42:56.530 --> 00:42:58.949
not a trans singer. He really carries the film.

00:42:59.329 --> 00:43:02.869
So I'd love to see him take it. I don't think

00:43:02.869 --> 00:43:07.969
he will win it. I don't know. I feel like everything

00:43:07.969 --> 00:43:10.110
I'm hearing says Benedict Cumberbatch is the

00:43:10.110 --> 00:43:13.550
one who's gonna walk away with the Oscar. but

00:43:13.550 --> 00:43:17.750
that just might be the buzz I'm hearing. I did

00:43:17.750 --> 00:43:19.869
hear really great things about Will Smith. I

00:43:19.869 --> 00:43:23.969
didn't really hear much about Denzel Washington

00:43:23.969 --> 00:43:25.969
in the tragedy of Macbeth. That movie for me

00:43:25.969 --> 00:43:29.070
came and went. I truly forgot it even came out.

00:43:29.230 --> 00:43:31.730
And then Javier Bardem, I just haven't heard

00:43:31.730 --> 00:43:35.190
much about his role. Is this one of the first

00:43:35.190 --> 00:43:39.530
years that three of the best actors are based

00:43:39.530 --> 00:43:43.389
off of real human beings? Maybe not. Well, you

00:43:43.389 --> 00:43:48.530
have to look back. So no. OK, so here's the thing.

00:43:48.750 --> 00:43:52.130
There's a rule with this, and I think I cut out

00:43:52.130 --> 00:43:53.909
there for a second. I think my internet cut me

00:43:53.909 --> 00:43:59.349
out there for a second. I'm sorry. But so every

00:43:59.349 --> 00:44:02.530
year for like in the past for the pet for 21st

00:44:02.530 --> 00:44:05.860
century. Only one year this hasn't happened,

00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:09.800
but every year, except for 2016, one of the acting

00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:12.159
winners has always been for playing a real life

00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:16.139
person. Interesting. So this is why I'm here

00:44:16.139 --> 00:44:19.139
for really obscure facts like this. But it's

00:44:19.139 --> 00:44:24.239
true. It's true. So that said, and also because

00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:27.960
of the fact that it's a heavy, heavy favorite.

00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:32.539
I definitely don't see this going to anyone other

00:44:32.539 --> 00:44:36.780
than Will Smith for King Richard. That said though,

00:44:37.500 --> 00:44:42.280
the one that I was most impressed by by far was

00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.880
Andrew Garfield because I had no idea he could

00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:49.639
sing. And I mean, sing and get away with it,

00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:55.829
I guess, in a sense. So yeah, but I think it's

00:44:55.829 --> 00:44:59.590
still Will Smith. It's going to be him. Yeah,

00:44:59.670 --> 00:45:02.469
I think this is Chakra Will Smith. Minus 800

00:45:02.469 --> 00:45:05.210
are his odds here. That's really big odds for

00:45:05.210 --> 00:45:07.769
him. Benedict Humbert Batch's number two. But

00:45:07.769 --> 00:45:10.210
the conversation here, which I think is awesome,

00:45:10.849 --> 00:45:13.210
Andrew Garfield is getting his flowers as an

00:45:13.210 --> 00:45:18.030
actor. over the past year. I love it. I absolutely

00:45:18.030 --> 00:45:20.849
love it. I loved him in Tic -Tac -Boom. I loved

00:45:20.849 --> 00:45:25.670
him as Peter 3 in No Way Home. Spoiler! I'm so

00:45:25.670 --> 00:45:30.630
kidding. Spoiler! That's officially on digital

00:45:30.630 --> 00:45:33.929
now. Everybody cannot say spoiler anymore. It's

00:45:33.929 --> 00:45:36.869
your own fault now. It makes me think back to

00:45:36.869 --> 00:45:41.489
2010 with Social Network. And there's a in the

00:45:41.489 --> 00:45:43.849
director commentary of it. I love that movie.

00:45:44.329 --> 00:45:48.130
There's a moment where they're at. Like, I forgot

00:45:48.130 --> 00:45:51.829
what the party was, but basically it was like

00:45:51.829 --> 00:45:55.170
a dance and they're playing Niagara Falls like

00:45:55.170 --> 00:45:57.909
like a video, but they're playing Caribbean music.

00:45:57.909 --> 00:46:01.090
It was really weird. Anyway, Andrew Garfield

00:46:01.090 --> 00:46:03.530
comes across the dance floor to meet up with

00:46:03.530 --> 00:46:05.630
Mark Zuckerberg, Jesse Eisenberg, and he kind

00:46:05.630 --> 00:46:10.059
of dances along the way in doing that. And David

00:46:10.059 --> 00:46:11.980
Fincher is the director of that movie. And in

00:46:11.980 --> 00:46:14.519
the commentary, he's just like, I didn't tell

00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:18.119
Andrew to do this, but when I saw him just make

00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:19.920
his way across the dance floor like that, I'm

00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:23.780
like, we have a movie star. This is a movie star.

00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:27.179
And I feel like it has taken a long time to,

00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:28.980
for people like, and this is a guy who's played

00:46:28.980 --> 00:46:31.260
Spiderman, but now 10 years later, I think people

00:46:31.260 --> 00:46:33.340
are recognizing the acting with the charisma

00:46:33.340 --> 00:46:35.940
of a movie star. And it's just been really cool

00:46:35.940 --> 00:46:38.260
to see that in Andrew Garfield over the past

00:46:38.260 --> 00:46:41.130
year or so. Can I also say Hacksaw Ridge was

00:46:41.130 --> 00:46:43.449
nowhere near as bad as everybody made it because

00:46:43.449 --> 00:46:47.750
he was bad. I thought the movie was middling,

00:46:47.969 --> 00:46:50.030
middling. I thought he was great in Hacksaw Ridge

00:46:50.030 --> 00:46:52.550
too. Yeah. People thought that movie was middling,

00:46:52.829 --> 00:46:55.369
like just, just forgettable. And I think that

00:46:55.369 --> 00:46:58.070
movie is so much better because of his level.

00:46:58.469 --> 00:47:01.650
Yeah. He brought that movie up. He was good in

00:47:01.650 --> 00:47:05.050
silence too, if you saw that. Yes. I have not

00:47:05.050 --> 00:47:07.570
seen it, but yes, I've heard many a great thing

00:47:07.570 --> 00:47:11.239
about it from about him and everything. Yeah,

00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:13.559
with Hexar Ridge, he made a character that really

00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:16.059
should have been grating to me. Like, I respect

00:47:16.059 --> 00:47:18.639
that he wanted to look at the act, the story

00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:20.239
is that he didn't want to compromise his morals

00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:25.340
and his ethics. But like, dude, somehow or another,

00:47:25.579 --> 00:47:29.659
Andrew Garfield's performance overrode how annoying

00:47:29.659 --> 00:47:33.760
or like kind of frustrating that that could be.

00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.139
So yeah, no, I'm here for it. All right, we're

00:47:37.139 --> 00:47:39.320
at our second to last category. It's directing,

00:47:39.539 --> 00:47:43.019
best director. The nominees are Belfast for Kenneth

00:47:43.019 --> 00:47:49.500
Brownegg. Brownegg. Brownel. Brownel. Fuck yourself.

00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:55.920
Rive My Car for Ryusuke Hamaguchi. Yeah. Okay,

00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:59.360
yeah, you get that one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah,

00:47:59.460 --> 00:48:02.920
that's weird, but go ahead. I'm really good with

00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:06.010
Japanese names, actually. No, I'm actually really

00:48:06.010 --> 00:48:08.889
good with Japanese names. Licorice Pizza, Paul

00:48:08.889 --> 00:48:11.789
Thomas Anderson, The Power of the Dog, Jane Campion,

00:48:12.329 --> 00:48:16.409
and West Side Story, Steven Spielberg. I just

00:48:16.409 --> 00:48:18.050
said that one on purpose. Why did you say it

00:48:18.050 --> 00:48:21.030
like a New Yorker? Cause I said it wrong on purpose.

00:48:21.150 --> 00:48:24.710
Cause now you don't know what I was doing. We

00:48:24.710 --> 00:48:27.070
never know what you're doing, but anyway. That's

00:48:27.070 --> 00:48:31.210
fair. Honestly. Yeah, that's fair. Hey, I'm going

00:48:31.210 --> 00:48:33.429
to need that beer soon too. So let's make this

00:48:33.429 --> 00:48:37.400
quick. Yeah. You're starting us off, man. I thought

00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:39.179
I started off last time with Will Smith. I thought

00:48:39.179 --> 00:48:41.460
I started off with Andrew Garfield. Fine. Power

00:48:41.460 --> 00:48:44.940
of the Dog, Jane Campion. Okay. Bingo bongo,

00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:47.980
buddy. Bingo bongo, done. No, Power of the Dog

00:48:47.980 --> 00:48:50.260
deserves all the love because that movie was

00:48:50.260 --> 00:48:52.739
excellent. And Jane Campion was the big reason

00:48:52.739 --> 00:48:55.519
why. I thought about Paul Thomas Anderson because

00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:59.099
of Licorice Pizza. I thought about Belfast because

00:48:59.099 --> 00:49:03.150
of Kenneth Branagh, Brana, whatever. mustache

00:49:03.150 --> 00:49:09.630
origin story. But Power of the Dog is my winner

00:49:09.630 --> 00:49:12.550
for that one. And more so because of a spoiler

00:49:12.550 --> 00:49:16.329
alert for later in this program. I mean, there's

00:49:16.329 --> 00:49:18.750
not much more to go, so. You can probably guess

00:49:18.750 --> 00:49:21.530
it at this point. Yeah. I'm gonna give it to

00:49:21.530 --> 00:49:23.750
Paul Thomas Anderson just because I have seen

00:49:23.750 --> 00:49:26.250
a lot of his films and I've always enjoyed them

00:49:26.250 --> 00:49:29.730
thoroughly. And I loved the way this movie looked

00:49:29.730 --> 00:49:31.389
from the, and this is all based off the trailer

00:49:31.389 --> 00:49:33.920
stuff. I just I loved all the elements that I

00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:37.039
saw coming through that. And it's definitely

00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:41.659
on my list of I really want to watch it. I wouldn't

00:49:41.659 --> 00:49:43.420
be surprised if The Power of the Dog is the one

00:49:43.420 --> 00:49:46.179
that actually walks out with the Oscar for best

00:49:46.179 --> 00:49:48.579
director. There's just so much momentum behind

00:49:48.579 --> 00:49:51.760
this film right now. I really haven't heard much

00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:57.010
about Belfast, West Side Story. in a different

00:49:57.010 --> 00:49:59.429
year with different films, I could see Steven

00:49:59.429 --> 00:50:01.849
Spielberg walking away with it, but I think he's

00:50:01.849 --> 00:50:05.570
got too much competition to be a darling for

00:50:05.570 --> 00:50:08.110
it. And then I just can't say anything about

00:50:08.110 --> 00:50:10.070
Drive My Car. I don't know anything about it

00:50:10.070 --> 00:50:13.510
other than it's like three hours. So my thing

00:50:13.510 --> 00:50:16.769
with Steven Spielberg, and he's one of my favorite

00:50:16.769 --> 00:50:19.269
directors of all time, but does it feel kind

00:50:19.269 --> 00:50:24.860
of like in this category, it's just... This is

00:50:24.860 --> 00:50:26.780
not, this is gonna come out wrong no matter how

00:50:26.780 --> 00:50:30.340
I say it. It's past him is how I'm phrasing it,

00:50:30.539 --> 00:50:32.860
but not - He doesn't need an Oscar. Well, that's

00:50:32.860 --> 00:50:34.579
- Yeah, he's one of the goats. Yeah, but he doesn't

00:50:34.579 --> 00:50:38.139
need an Oscar to validate his career, you know?

00:50:38.139 --> 00:50:40.760
Yeah. Especially for a remake. Well, and that's,

00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:44.599
that was my point about fucking, oh my God. Which

00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.639
movie? About what? A Star is Born. Have you seen

00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:54.320
A Star is Born yet? I have, I have. Yeah, I agree

00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:56.940
with you. I think it is a bit beneath isn't the

00:50:56.940 --> 00:50:59.800
right word. But I'm sure even Steven is just

00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:02.599
like, okay, sure. I got nominated. And if he

00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:04.920
were to win, I'm sure the speech he has in his

00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:06.739
pocket besides the thinking of everybody is this

00:51:06.739 --> 00:51:10.440
like, almost a sense of befuddlement like, okay,

00:51:10.699 --> 00:51:13.360
didn't didn't see that coming. But here I am.

00:51:13.380 --> 00:51:15.340
This should have gone to much more deserving

00:51:15.340 --> 00:51:19.630
people. including Jane Campion, who is my pick.

00:51:21.389 --> 00:51:24.409
This is a little late, but Mike is just off the

00:51:24.409 --> 00:51:28.929
deep and watch as he dives in. Oh, I'm fuming

00:51:28.929 --> 00:51:31.630
about it. It's Star is Born. I'm fuming about

00:51:31.630 --> 00:51:36.090
that. Well, we can discuss on how you were mistaken

00:51:36.090 --> 00:51:39.650
on some of those things. Anyway, for time's sake,

00:51:40.090 --> 00:51:43.590
though, if you're the Directors Guild winner,

00:51:44.460 --> 00:51:47.400
It's really hard not to win Best Director. It's

00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:51.880
happened before, but not often. Yeah, this is

00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:56.260
Jane Campions for me too. The only thing I will

00:51:56.260 --> 00:51:59.820
say is she had that one little hiccup recently.

00:52:00.019 --> 00:52:02.179
I don't know if you saw at the Critics' Choice

00:52:02.179 --> 00:52:07.099
where she was accepting her award and she saw

00:52:07.099 --> 00:52:09.980
Venus and Serena Williams and she said something

00:52:09.980 --> 00:52:13.809
that was taken the wrong way. where she was basically

00:52:13.809 --> 00:52:15.750
praising them like, you guys are all stars, but

00:52:15.750 --> 00:52:19.730
you don't have to play against the guys like

00:52:19.730 --> 00:52:23.269
I do or something like that. And that was just

00:52:23.269 --> 00:52:26.269
like read the wrong way. She ended up apologizing

00:52:26.269 --> 00:52:29.230
for it. I don't know if that's going to necessarily

00:52:29.230 --> 00:52:34.389
ruin her chances. The only person we know who

00:52:34.389 --> 00:52:37.510
won't be voting for her will be Sam Elliott,

00:52:37.510 --> 00:52:41.829
as you've probably heard about. You've heard

00:52:41.829 --> 00:52:45.289
of that, haven't you, Mike? Yes, I have. OK.

00:52:45.489 --> 00:52:50.489
Well, yeah, he's not a fan. Yeah, basically appearance.

00:52:50.869 --> 00:52:53.650
Yeah, he was also and he was also in A Star is

00:52:53.650 --> 00:52:57.369
Born. Did you know that? I did. Yeah. No. So

00:52:57.369 --> 00:52:59.210
Mark, you may not have listened to this episode,

00:52:59.210 --> 00:53:02.630
and I don't blame you if you haven't. I called

00:53:02.630 --> 00:53:09.570
out the fact that I didn't think. What's that

00:53:09.570 --> 00:53:11.949
Cooper? Bradley Cooper should be nominated for

00:53:11.949 --> 00:53:14.710
best director because he did a movie that's been

00:53:14.710 --> 00:53:17.590
remade. This was the fourth seven times. No,

00:53:17.630 --> 00:53:20.349
it was the fourth for time. It has been remade.

00:53:20.690 --> 00:53:23.710
Yeah. Yeah. So that was my reasoning. And I got

00:53:23.710 --> 00:53:26.329
very upset about it because I just don't think

00:53:26.329 --> 00:53:29.409
a remake should be nominated. And Mitchell called

00:53:29.409 --> 00:53:31.789
me out on it and I had not seen it at that point.

00:53:31.829 --> 00:53:33.909
And then he started laughing at me because I

00:53:33.909 --> 00:53:36.059
had not seen it at that point. Cause you dug

00:53:36.059 --> 00:53:39.900
your heels in so hard. I did. He wasn't even

00:53:39.900 --> 00:53:43.239
nominated for it. Yeah. And he was not for director.

00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:48.360
He was for actor. Yeah. Let's look back. Cause

00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:50.000
I think I was complaining that he didn't get

00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:52.500
nominated for director. I think that maybe that

00:53:52.500 --> 00:53:55.519
was the reason. Okay. Yeah. That's fair. If you

00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:59.739
were, yeah, I was fervently against it and I

00:53:59.739 --> 00:54:01.800
still am with Spielberg too, just so we're clear.

00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:04.619
And I love Spielberg. I absolutely love him.

00:54:04.969 --> 00:54:09.030
I do not think a remade movie should be nominated

00:54:09.030 --> 00:54:13.550
for best director. He was not nominated for director.

00:54:13.809 --> 00:54:15.889
Okay. All right. So maybe it was, you were arguing

00:54:15.889 --> 00:54:17.909
about it, but whatever, whatever the point was,

00:54:18.269 --> 00:54:19.869
you can listen to that episode. I'll find it

00:54:19.869 --> 00:54:22.210
and put it in here, whatever. But if he, if best

00:54:22.210 --> 00:54:24.710
picture would have won, he would have the way

00:54:24.710 --> 00:54:26.829
that it's look it, that it is, he would have

00:54:26.829 --> 00:54:29.079
won for best picture he would have walked out

00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:31.900
there as the director Bradley Cooper, not the

00:54:31.900 --> 00:54:34.800
actor. Exactly. Exactly. And that was, that was

00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:38.460
my thing is I just, I fervently believe that

00:54:38.460 --> 00:54:40.480
including one of my favorite movies of all time.

00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:43.579
I do not think The Departed should have won an

00:54:43.579 --> 00:54:46.340
Oscar because it was based on a story. It was

00:54:46.340 --> 00:54:53.139
recreated by Scorsese. Thank you. Sorry. I'm

00:54:53.139 --> 00:54:56.960
just like spacing now. So That is my argument

00:54:56.960 --> 00:55:01.420
with that. I agree with you that it depends on

00:55:01.420 --> 00:55:04.400
the adaptation. If it's almost a shot for shot

00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:06.360
remake of the original, then it is a little sus

00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:09.159
if a director gets nominated for basically walking

00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:10.960
the same path that was walked before them. It

00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:16.699
comes down to what did Spielberg bring to West

00:55:16.699 --> 00:55:19.260
Side Story that is inherently Spielbergian that

00:55:19.260 --> 00:55:23.289
is absent from the other. I've seen the movie

00:55:23.289 --> 00:55:25.429
Departed is based off of. That's the one I can

00:55:25.429 --> 00:55:27.250
talk about because it is one of my favorite movies.

00:55:27.409 --> 00:55:29.829
I love the Departed. That is not the problem.

00:55:30.289 --> 00:55:33.070
The problem is a lot of it is kind of shot for

00:55:33.070 --> 00:55:35.369
shot, including the Xs over the people that are

00:55:35.369 --> 00:55:38.449
going to die. Like that's, you know, that is

00:55:38.449 --> 00:55:41.210
something he took from that. All right. Hey,

00:55:41.570 --> 00:55:45.670
best picture. We made it here. All right. Here

00:55:45.670 --> 00:55:48.190
are the nominees. Nominees for best picture.

00:55:48.849 --> 00:55:53.610
Belfast, Koda, Don't Look Up. Drive My Car, Dune,

00:55:54.110 --> 00:55:57.550
King Richard, Liquor's Pizza, Nightmare Alley,

00:55:57.710 --> 00:56:03.510
Power of the Dog, and West Side Story. I think

00:56:03.510 --> 00:56:06.769
this comes down to, there's 10 nominees. I think

00:56:06.769 --> 00:56:09.570
there's two legitimate contenders. Okay. Where

00:56:09.570 --> 00:56:12.010
are your two legitimate contenders? I think Power

00:56:12.010 --> 00:56:14.269
of the Dog is one of them. Power of the Dog is

00:56:14.269 --> 00:56:18.590
the favorite, and Coda. Coda, I think, is actually

00:56:18.590 --> 00:56:22.000
number two. Before we get into basically our

00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:24.420
picks here. I do wanna flag to everyone that

00:56:24.420 --> 00:56:27.260
the way that Best Picture is voted on is different

00:56:27.260 --> 00:56:29.780
than all the other categories. Best Picture,

00:56:29.820 --> 00:56:31.480
they use something called preferential voting,

00:56:31.780 --> 00:56:33.219
preferential balloting, whatever you wanna call

00:56:33.219 --> 00:56:35.820
it. Whereas the other categories, you pick one,

00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:37.659
you pick your favorite, and that's your vote.

00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:40.480
For Best Picture, the members of the Academy

00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:44.739
rank their choices from one to 10. And basically

00:56:44.739 --> 00:56:48.019
how it goes, everyone's first choice is counted

00:56:48.019 --> 00:56:52.190
first. And if a movie has 50 % of the vote already,

00:56:52.510 --> 00:56:55.489
then it wins. But if it doesn't, they move on

00:56:55.489 --> 00:56:57.869
to people's second choices. And it goes on from

00:56:57.869 --> 00:57:00.150
there. The additions will be more complicated.

00:57:00.590 --> 00:57:04.150
They also get rid of the last place voting one.

00:57:04.289 --> 00:57:07.429
Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So then it continues

00:57:07.429 --> 00:57:11.349
on from there. So those who had the last choice

00:57:11.349 --> 00:57:14.010
as their first, their second choice now becomes

00:57:14.010 --> 00:57:17.489
their first and it goes on from there. The Academy

00:57:17.489 --> 00:57:20.579
actually made a we've been bad mouthing them

00:57:20.579 --> 00:57:23.679
for their choices. They actually made a sample

00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:26.059
video of sorts on their YouTube that actually

00:57:26.059 --> 00:57:30.460
explains it very well. Yes. That's nice. So I'll

00:57:30.460 --> 00:57:32.659
just go first because I've already spoiled it.

00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:36.119
I'm voting Power of the Dog. I know it's the

00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:38.820
favorite, Fine, Dandy, whatever, but that's also

00:57:38.820 --> 00:57:42.219
the movie I've seen and I love. I absolutely

00:57:42.219 --> 00:57:44.519
love the Power of the Dog. I thought it was excellent.

00:57:46.190 --> 00:57:48.630
It was probably going to be my pick no matter

00:57:48.630 --> 00:57:51.909
what because mostly I just haven't seen most

00:57:51.909 --> 00:57:56.809
of the rest of these. But everything about Power

00:57:56.809 --> 00:57:59.630
of the Dog was excellent to me and the reason

00:57:59.630 --> 00:58:03.630
why I think it should win. Mike, I have a question.

00:58:03.849 --> 00:58:05.889
Is there someone in your past that we don't know

00:58:05.889 --> 00:58:09.289
of that goes by the name of Bronco Henry? No.

00:58:09.579 --> 00:58:13.340
Okay. I'm just making sure. I will give you,

00:58:13.340 --> 00:58:17.960
I will give you a fun fact about me. So my great,

00:58:18.059 --> 00:58:22.920
great, great uncle was the first print ad of

00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:27.159
the Marlboro man. That's cool. Oh. And which

00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:29.260
kind of connects to the power of the dog in some

00:58:29.260 --> 00:58:32.900
way, because he's just that like cool cowboy

00:58:32.900 --> 00:58:36.570
kind of thing. Quintessential man. Yeah. So you're

00:58:36.570 --> 00:58:38.909
welcome. I'm probably part of the reason why

00:58:38.909 --> 00:58:47.889
a lot of people have cancer. So, yeah. All right,

00:58:48.150 --> 00:58:50.429
Mark, I want to hear your thoughts here. OK,

00:58:50.489 --> 00:58:52.610
I thought I'd be going last here. I thought so,

00:58:52.610 --> 00:58:56.769
too, because we did not go already. Oh, no. OK,

00:58:57.050 --> 00:59:00.210
my bad. I only heard. OK, I already went. Yeah.

00:59:01.250 --> 00:59:03.969
So I'm going to go or is Mitchell going? I really

00:59:03.969 --> 00:59:06.489
don't care. Jill, you're going. All right. Well,

00:59:06.489 --> 00:59:08.949
this is a really hard one for me to even vote

00:59:08.949 --> 00:59:10.929
on, because there's only one that I've actually

00:59:10.929 --> 00:59:13.030
seen. I guess you could say I've seen West Side

00:59:13.030 --> 00:59:18.690
Story, but not this production of it. Do you

00:59:18.690 --> 00:59:23.650
know who's great? I don't think it's Best Picture

00:59:23.650 --> 00:59:29.929
Great. If Dune doesn't win anything but Best

00:59:29.929 --> 00:59:33.030
Picture, I'd be happy that it got an award for

00:59:33.030 --> 00:59:34.809
something but I would be a little annoyed that

00:59:34.809 --> 00:59:36.809
it was this award where they're maybe they'll

00:59:36.809 --> 00:59:38.309
what going back to what we were discussing earlier

00:59:38.309 --> 00:59:40.550
that logic of well they're making a second one

00:59:40.550 --> 00:59:43.489
so we don't need to shower it with oscars but

00:59:43.489 --> 00:59:47.949
we'll we'll give it one little nod um I'm gonna

00:59:47.949 --> 00:59:52.409
guess the power of the dog is going to win um

00:59:52.409 --> 00:59:54.789
coda which I really just don't know much about

00:59:54.789 --> 00:59:57.929
uh mitchell said was the top second contender

00:59:57.929 --> 01:00:01.159
for it sure um it would be cool to see licorice

01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:04.820
pizza win as well i know i'm like just now listing

01:00:04.820 --> 01:00:07.760
off the list but um i'm gonna say the power of

01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:11.179
the dog for best picture just based off of um

01:00:11.179 --> 01:00:16.840
popular opinion all right boys who's who's diving

01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:23.300
in i got the perfect picture Well, let me cross

01:00:23.300 --> 01:00:24.920
off some names. The reason why I don't think

01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:27.039
Dune is a contender is because Denis Villeneuve

01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:29.360
did not get the best director nomination. Which

01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:31.380
is still ridiculous. Yeah, which is a little

01:00:31.380 --> 01:00:34.800
weird. Yeah. So you could say Spielberg took

01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:36.440
his spot. You could say the director for Drive

01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:38.519
My Car took his spot, whatever. Regardless, he

01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:41.179
is not in that category. And I think that in

01:00:41.179 --> 01:00:43.679
a way eliminates Dune from being best picture.

01:00:43.820 --> 01:00:45.960
There is a sequel coming. I think it's going

01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:49.159
to clean up in the... below the line categories

01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:51.119
as we were talking about before. So it will be

01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:53.579
recognized. And then when I look at something

01:00:53.579 --> 01:00:58.340
like CODA, again, I go back to best adapted screenplay.

01:00:58.539 --> 01:01:02.119
If we see CODA take that, then it becomes a lot

01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:05.280
more interesting. However, I have the power of

01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:07.760
the dog winning adapted screenplay. We have Jane

01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:10.019
Campion pretty much as a group winning best director.

01:01:10.659 --> 01:01:13.000
I just don't see how those two things working

01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:15.389
together. does not come up with best picture

01:01:15.389 --> 01:01:19.429
here. But because of preferential voting, Coda

01:01:19.429 --> 01:01:23.730
is a very likable and enjoyable movie. Mark,

01:01:23.769 --> 01:01:25.829
I know it's your favorite from this year. I just

01:01:25.829 --> 01:01:28.090
watched it last night. Absolutely loved it. The

01:01:28.090 --> 01:01:30.909
thing about preferential voting. No hellraiser.

01:01:31.050 --> 01:01:34.449
It's a hellraiser. However, it's not so much

01:01:34.449 --> 01:01:37.150
about everyone's top favorite. It's what's in

01:01:37.150 --> 01:01:39.230
kind of your top three. Like, what are you most

01:01:39.230 --> 01:01:41.250
comfortable with? And that's where you could

01:01:41.250 --> 01:01:43.190
see a movie like Green Book. winning a couple

01:01:43.190 --> 01:01:46.469
of years ago in a controversial fashion. But

01:01:46.469 --> 01:01:49.269
preferential voting, I think, led to that. So

01:01:49.269 --> 01:01:51.769
that's where I think there is a slight pathway

01:01:51.769 --> 01:01:55.170
to victory for Coda, which I only have winning

01:01:55.170 --> 01:01:57.510
one Oscar with Troy Kotzer and best supporter.

01:01:58.630 --> 01:02:00.869
So I'm giving it to power the dog, but I think

01:02:00.869 --> 01:02:05.090
it's going to be close. Yeah. And like we said

01:02:05.090 --> 01:02:10.210
at the beginning of the first episode. how we

01:02:10.210 --> 01:02:13.269
are doing this on Saturday, so we don't know

01:02:13.269 --> 01:02:15.449
what the Producers Guild is going to do. The

01:02:15.449 --> 01:02:19.590
Producers Guild is a huge help in knowing this.

01:02:19.849 --> 01:02:23.929
They're tonight, I believe, so they, if that,

01:02:24.809 --> 01:02:27.210
so right now, before knowing what the Producers

01:02:27.210 --> 01:02:30.969
Guild is, again, my thought is still thinking

01:02:30.969 --> 01:02:34.550
power of the dog, but, and obviously I would

01:02:34.550 --> 01:02:39.420
rather coda, but I think that Another thing that

01:02:39.420 --> 01:02:41.679
has to be mentioned is there's always been this

01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:44.420
biasness in the last few years against Netflix.

01:02:45.780 --> 01:02:49.800
I think in the Hollywood community, like there's

01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:53.280
a time where Spielberg himself was like, Netflix

01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:55.599
is not how movies should be watched or whatever,

01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:58.199
it should be theatrical. And then of course it

01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:02.380
all changed with COVID and whatnot. So I think

01:03:02.380 --> 01:03:07.239
this is definitely the best shot that Netflix

01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:10.199
has a given best picture. So if, if power of

01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:12.599
the dog does not win, then you know, there's

01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:16.219
something that Hollywood just does not like about

01:03:16.219 --> 01:03:19.739
Netflix, like a big bias and fitness of sorts.

01:03:20.219 --> 01:03:23.739
Now for Coda, that too was, I don't know if it

01:03:23.739 --> 01:03:26.619
was playing near you guys for theaters, cause

01:03:26.619 --> 01:03:32.780
I ended up seeing it on Apple TV, but, but That

01:03:32.780 --> 01:03:34.800
one also is one that I've been seeing probably

01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:38.019
more promotional stuff for than any other movie.

01:03:38.420 --> 01:03:43.000
I mean, they're really going for it. So I'm still

01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:46.300
at the, again, pre producers guild. I'm still

01:03:46.300 --> 01:03:50.760
saying power of the dog, but if it, it could

01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:53.960
definitely change if power of the dog wins producers

01:03:53.960 --> 01:03:57.860
field, then I'll be much more firmly entrenched,

01:03:58.340 --> 01:04:02.469
entrenched with that as Best picture thing. Now

01:04:02.469 --> 01:04:04.610
you should know also for me, for my predictions,

01:04:04.989 --> 01:04:07.590
last year I got best picture right. But before

01:04:07.590 --> 01:04:09.869
that, I'd missed best picture like six years

01:04:09.869 --> 01:04:17.630
in a row, which was not fun. So use that as it

01:04:17.630 --> 01:04:20.670
may. I'm just throwing that out there. But yeah,

01:04:20.690 --> 01:04:24.929
so for now, it's power of the dog. But I don't

01:04:24.929 --> 01:04:27.070
think like Mitch said, I don't think it's going

01:04:27.070 --> 01:04:30.070
to be a clear win. It's going to be close. OK.

01:04:30.699 --> 01:04:32.579
Well, that'll do it for our Oscars predictions.

01:04:33.059 --> 01:04:36.099
I put out a community shout out. So I got to

01:04:36.099 --> 01:04:38.599
give a shout out to our friend Kelly at Kelly

01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:41.000
Madden 80. She's part of drunk theory, which

01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:43.579
is one of our sister podcasts, favorite podcasts,

01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:46.059
everything like that. She made a prediction.

01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:48.619
I predict that if don't look up wins an Oscar,

01:04:48.659 --> 01:04:51.639
I will have a minor Twitter rant and then forget

01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:55.079
about it. So I just wanted to shout that out.

01:04:55.460 --> 01:04:58.929
Mark. Where can we find your Oscars predictions

01:04:58.929 --> 01:05:01.630
as well as some of your other movies? So I have

01:05:01.630 --> 01:05:04.630
a website, it's called NothingElseToSay .com

01:05:04.630 --> 01:05:07.570
where people can find it there. You can also

01:05:07.570 --> 01:05:12.110
follow me on Twitter at, oh gosh, what is it?

01:05:12.429 --> 01:05:15.590
Mark Guffin. Yeah, Mark Guffin is my normal one.

01:05:18.369 --> 01:05:23.440
That's my personal one. website one is a different

01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:25.880
one. I was also gonna joke that I actually made

01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:33.420
it on to Truth Social. So yeah, we'll see how

01:05:33.420 --> 01:05:35.260
long you can try to follow me on that before

01:05:35.260 --> 01:05:39.679
I probably get kicked off. But yeah, anyway,

01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:42.800
I hope I did not just lose followers for you

01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:45.239
by badmouthing Truth Social. I think we'll be

01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:51.989
okay. Okay, gotcha. Yeah. So you can follow us

01:05:51.989 --> 01:05:54.889
as well on at Game for a Movie on Twitter, Facebook,

01:05:55.050 --> 01:05:57.989
Instagram, all that good stuff. We are hoping

01:05:57.989 --> 01:06:00.150
to put this out Tuesday and Thursday. That depends

01:06:00.150 --> 01:06:04.570
on me editing it. I think we'll be OK. I think

01:06:04.570 --> 01:06:07.530
we'll be all right. That'll do it for this episode

01:06:07.530 --> 01:06:09.349
of Game for a Movie, where we ask, are you Game

01:06:09.349 --> 01:06:11.050
for a Movie? We've been joined by our special

01:06:11.050 --> 01:06:15.570
guest. Oh, that's me. Yeah, Mark. And our normal

01:06:15.570 --> 01:06:20.340
host, Ivan Mike joined by Jill. Mitchell, Kenneth

01:06:20.340 --> 01:06:26.039
Branagh, and Lin -Manuel Miranda. And yeah, and

01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:28.019
Cumber Umber Badger, whatever you want to call

01:06:28.019 --> 01:06:30.099
him. Don't forget about our dear friend Denzel.

01:06:31.500 --> 01:06:37.960
Just Denzel. Denzel. Denzel. Go ahead, pronounce

01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:39.860
that director for Drive My Car. Let's see who

01:06:39.860 --> 01:06:45.960
can do better. Ryusuke Hamaguchi. Ryusuke Hamaguchi.

01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:50.300
Just watch more anime, Mike. Yeah, Mike. I do

01:06:50.300 --> 01:06:53.699
well on Japanese names. Fuck yourselves. We have

01:06:53.699 --> 01:06:56.579
earned that E today. Yeah. Yeah. Way to go, Steven

01:06:56.579 --> 01:06:59.659
Spielberg or whatever you said. Sparge. Sparge.

01:06:59.980 --> 01:07:03.619
Sparge on purpose. Hey, don't knock one of my,

01:07:03.619 --> 01:07:06.679
you know, fellow director, you know, my, my beloved

01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:11.360
Steven Jueberg. Love him. Wow. Okay. Wow. That

01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:14.719
went somewhere. Okay. I'm Jewish. I can say it.

01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:19.449
Oh, okay. She's good. She's good. Well, so that'll

01:07:19.449 --> 01:07:21.650
do it for us that are not attending the Oscars

01:07:21.650 --> 01:07:24.469
because of our beloved makeup and hair styling

01:07:24.469 --> 01:07:27.230
people. We stand in solidarity with the Oscar

01:07:27.230 --> 01:07:30.329
because of the omission of original score. That's

01:07:30.329 --> 01:07:32.849
why I'm not watching the Oscars. Well, Jill stands

01:07:32.849 --> 01:07:35.110
with solidarity too. I have to watch it. It's

01:07:35.110 --> 01:07:37.929
on my birthday. Oh, we're watching, but we're

01:07:37.929 --> 01:07:42.809
just not showing up. Yeah. Take, take that shower

01:07:42.809 --> 01:07:46.619
the night, the next day. So, or the day of. So,

01:07:46.619 --> 01:07:48.900
um, I ain't watching. Well, that'll do it for

01:07:48.900 --> 01:07:50.380
this episode of the game for a movie. We'll see

01:07:50.380 --> 01:07:51.079
you next time.