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you know what that sound means it's another episode

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of game for a movie where we ask are you game

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for a movie we've got a special edition episode

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for you today i am mike your host i am joined

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by jill mitchell and we have a very special guest

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a friend of mine that i've known since high school

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please welcome mark to the show yo yo mark what's

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up dude the sub the subtlety will wear off i'll

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get Much more energetic. Don't worry. We've got

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a very special show for you. We are making all

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of the Oscar predictions. Every single category

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we are going to pick a winner for. We are also

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going to tell you what we are drinking. I will

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get us started from Big Tree Brewing. I have

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a hazy single hop mosaic IPA called... Look at

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that. You just cut out there, so I didn't get

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to hear what it was called. Oh, it's called Yacht

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Rock. It's called Yacht Rock. I love Yacht Rock.

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Because summer can't come soon enough, loads

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of late addition and dry hopping for Mac's pleasure.

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Recycle this can or else. I like that. Where's

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the brewery? That's a good question. Big Tree

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Brewing is in Vermont. There you go. Wilston,

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Vermont. Jill, I see you're holding yours up.

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What do you got there? Well, mine doesn't have

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any fun things to say on it, but I'm drinking

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Local 35 from Hog River. This may have been featured

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on the podcast. Hog River is local to me in Hartford,

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Connecticut. This is an India pale ale, so a

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little different than what I normally drink.

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It's got some government warnings on the label,

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and it says that the artwork is by Mount Hook,

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and you can find them at mounthook .com. Love

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it. All right. Mitchell, what are you doing?

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This has some government warnings as I take a

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sip. That is hilarious. You're coming all the

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way from the West Coast. I love the power of

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technology with this stuff. I am. Guys, I'm in

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the heart of Hollywood, and I have zero insight

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on the Oscars, so I have no idea why I'm here.

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But it is early in the morning for me, not really

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early in the morning. It's like mid -morning.

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And I'm drinking coffee. In particular, I have

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an espresso. It tastes like caramel. It's the

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caramel cookie one, I think. I have it in my

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nice little glass mug. The caramel is Kahlua.

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Did you brew it yourself or did a machine do

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it? The machine did it for me. Mitchell versus

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the machines. This time we were working together.

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It was good. We'll talk about that later. Mark,

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what do you got over there? No surprise. I'm

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not that big of a drinker. per se i am huge on

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sparkling water though okay um so i'm drinking

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bubbly blackberry bubbly as it were um yes absolutely

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yeah um uh this is the they also have bubbly

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bounce i already had one today but bubbly bounce

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is the caffeinated drink of them there you go

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which is actually really good but no this one's

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blackberry Yeah. All right. So before we get

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started with all our Oscars fun, Mark, you and

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I went to high school together. You have been

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holding this over my head because you have not

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told me yet. You found your yearbook. Yes. So

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for the listeners, just so they know, I was a

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very well -matured, smart senior of sorts when

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Mike was a baby freshman. So I decided to look

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up into the yearbook, the one year we went together

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and find out what did Mike write me in that yearbook.

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And I've been holding him in suspense for weeks

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now. And I can properly let him know that what

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he wrote in my yearbook was absolutely nothing.

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You did not sign my yearbook at all. Oh, I'm

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a monster being twist. Yeah. Wow. yeah now now

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that could have been now in fairness that could

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have also been there could have been many reasons

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one of which could have been because that was

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since we were both from Chicago that was easily

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the best 05 was the best year for Chicago baseball

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in a long time as you will remember um I thought

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about wearing my Cubs World Series shirt just

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for this because I remembered you're a White

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Sox fan yes absolutely um That's a whole nother

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pod. Yeah, right. But yes, no, you did not write

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anything and that is okay. If I wrote something

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in yours, I probably didn't either. Clearly the

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next time you guys hang out, Mike's got to rectify

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the situation. I will sign your yearbook. Wow.

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All right. I feel like a heel now. All right.

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Well, dang. All right. I guess let's get into

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this Oscar stuff because then I'll feel better

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about myself at least because I know you're going

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to kick the crap out of me in this. Mark is our

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expert as well as Mitchell, as well as Jill.

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I don't care what she says. She is our expert.

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I am the idiot on this podcast. I have not made

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my picks even. I'm going to go on the fly. That's

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how great I prepared for this episode. Mike,

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I also have not made. There's only one category

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I have made my pick in. And, yeah, everyone I

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think who knows who's listened to this podcast

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can probably guess which category that is. But,

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yeah, everything else is on the fly. So, no,

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not an expert. Well, we're going to talk about

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first. This year they have decided not to televise

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eight categories. Those categories are best animated

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short, best documentary short, best live action

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short, all the shorts out of it, best sound,

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best makeup hairstyle, best production design.

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Best original score and best film editing. So

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those eight categories are not going to be televised.

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How do you guys feel about that? I'm all for

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the concept of making these very elongated award

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ceremonies streamlined, but this isn't. how you

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do it I rather have them dedicate screen time

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to actually giving awards than stupid skits where

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people are doing a selfie or someone orders dominoes

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for the first three rows or you know any of the

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little stage celebrity stuff that they do that

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can go to the wayside I don't need to see that

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I rather see people getting credit for the work

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that they've done Yeah, I think a big part of

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this for me, it's not so much the overall length

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of the show, and it always runs over three hours.

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It happens every single year for the most part,

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even in the pandemic year. It's going to do it

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again, even with the categories not televised.

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Exactly. And my thing is this, and just thinking

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of Chicago baseball, I remember watching game

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seven of the 2016 World Series, right? That game

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went on forever. I was hooked from the first

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pitch all the way until the Cubs are celebrating

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on the field. I think it's less about the length

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and more so about what is happening during the

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show itself to Jill's point. So I think it's

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figuring out ways to breathe some life into the

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show and frankly, get some more interest into

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the show beyond the, you know, movies that are

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nominated. Right. The reason why the Oscars.

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ratings have been tanking is they don't nominate

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movies like spider -man no way home and look

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for me spider -man no way home is not a top 10

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movie of the year but we should celebrate it

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oh my you see how much money it made how many

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people like had a great time at the movies for

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the first time in two years because of that thing

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i don't know i feel like there are different

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ways to celebrate movies and accomplishments

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that go beyond the nominees And I feel like the

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Academy has to figure out a way to incorporate

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that into the show. Mark, what do you got over

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there? I can tell your gears are turning. Well,

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yes, my gears are always turning. No, so yeah.

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I mean, short answer, yes. It's dumb that they're

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doing this. The only three categories I could

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see out of the 23 they would want to maybe cut

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for now would only be the shorts because those

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are the ones that most people haven't. I mean,

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most people haven't seen a lot of the movies,

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but those are definitely the three that most

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people haven't seen from. But they've been doing

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a lot of changes with the award show over the

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years. And I mean, I'm glad they're bringing

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at least hosts back because the last few years

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has not been good. Last year, especially with

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COVID, last year's show was atrocious. I mean,

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they didn't even end it on best picture. And

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then it was that weird ending and all that. And

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then another thing too, is, you know, there,

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we can talk about this when we talk about each

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of the categories, but each category does still

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bring something to the table when making a movie

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without any doubt. And I haven't heard anyone

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aside from, I forgot the guy's name, but whoever

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the president of the Academy is. I haven't heard

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anyone besides him who has given a really good

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reason for saying, well, this is why we had to

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cut them, you know. And then there's the other

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thing. And I don't think and I don't know if

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we talked about this, but I have to bring it

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up. There's the other change they brought to

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the Oscars this year, which was the Twitter polling

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of the Oscar fan favorite, which was so basically

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it's already done. with the polling it was at

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the beginning of march and it was you basically

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could put on your twitter feed or whatever your

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favorite oscar moment or favorite sorry movie

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moment or movie of 2021 and whoever got the most

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votes would be saying hey you won the twitter

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thing at the oscars which i think is absolute

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ludicrousness never put people in charge of this

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yeah never yeah never i mean winning film they

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didn't so they didn't say yet the one thing that

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the only reason I voted a few times was because

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they did say three random people would get to

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go to the Oscars next year as presenters I'm

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like okay I I mean I'd want to go to the Oscars

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of course yeah but but from what I saw and it's

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I might have it on my phone somewhere but they

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had a uh ranking of Like these were the 10 films

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with the most mentions at one point. So it originally

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started out as a way of saying, okay, finally,

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we'll give Spider -Man No Way Home its moment

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in the sun at the Oscars. But there were other

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ones too that made zero sense to me. There's

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this one Johnny Depp movie, which I'd never heard

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of at all. That apparently came out last year

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where he, I can't remember the name of it, but

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he's basically playing an Asian photographer.

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Great. Good start. And, you know, the Suicide

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Squad was on there. And most importantly for

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me, that was on there was Cinderella. The Kamiya

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Cabello Cinderella. Yeah, Amazon. which i have

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which i have been yes the amazon cinderella which

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i have been on the record of saying was the worst

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movie i saw last year oh you didn't like it when

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james corden mouse was talking about finding

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new ways to pee i missed that i didn't i missed

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that i also i also missed yes i also didn't like

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it when the prince was talking at the ball to

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all the other guys trying to get rid of the women

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by starting to sing i'm gonna fight him off that

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was a good matchup though seven nation army uh

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x uh yeah but that came out of nowhere that's

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actually the best sequence of the film i was

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gonna say that that's the one thing Which is

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just saying something. We could do a whole nother

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pod on why that movie did not work. Yes, yes

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we can. It probably will be a bad movie episode.

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Yes, and I saw Dear Evan Hansen too for that

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matter. Oh my gosh. Did you guys see the editing

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sequence that went viral a couple weeks ago about

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like this is why Dear Evan Hansen was an awful

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movie and it was just showing an awful sequence

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that was poorly edited. Anyway, among other reasons,

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the editing is also bad. Exactly. That's what

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it came down to. Yeah. One thing I do want to

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bring up, I think the Oscars may have also have

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unopened a certain amount of unintended consequences

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with moving these awards off of the actual telecast.

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And I'm not sure if you all saw, but Jessica

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Chastain has said that she is. She hasn't made

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it official, but she is basically. I didn't see

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this. Yeah. Yeah. She's threatening to not show

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up in solidarity with her makeup team who did

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a lot of work on Tammy Faye, which is the role

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that she is dominated for. And that is a big

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red flag because currently Jessica Chastain is

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the odds on favorite to win best actress. I'm

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not sure if she's going to win. Same for makeup

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too. Exactly. Makeup is most likely going to

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win. I think that is the more lock of the two.

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But then if you the biggest deal for the Oscars,

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you don't have your best actress with a speech

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in the telecast because you move makeup off of

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the actual award show, which ultimately hurts

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the quality of the show. No, wait, did you say

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that she was missing the entire show? You didn't

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say she's missing the entire show. I heard she

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was just missing the red carpet. oh okay she's

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not showing up on a red carpet jeez mitchell

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yeah let's see who even watches the red carpet

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parts i guess a lot of people watch that a lot

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of people do but yeah it's it's one of the okay

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well then that that threat's a little bit less

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hollow now or it's a little bit more hollow than

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what i thought it was going to be um but she

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really wanted to make some noise as the odds

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on favorite to say hey i'm not going to show

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up to your show that could be a whole nother

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thing Well, I'm not going to show up to the show

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in honor of solidarity. Yeah. Mike, you weren't

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invited. Well, that doesn't have anything to

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do with it. I'm in solidarity. I think it would

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be more impactful if she didn't show up. Her

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not walking on a red carpet and then still being

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captured on camera throughout the night in the

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audience or hobnobbing behind stage completely

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deflates any impact of not showing up because...

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You're still there. It's an award. You want to

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stand on stage. Would this be her first Oscar

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if she got it too? Yeah. It would be so much

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more symbolic if she had someone collect the

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award in her honor because she wanted to stand

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up for her team. You know what she could do?

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Have her makeup team go up and accept the award

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if she were to win. That would be cool. Or that

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she can resurrect Joan Crawford from the dead

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and have Joan Crawford win the award, take the

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award for somebody in her honor. Cause that's

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what Joan Crawford did when she, during an Oscar

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year to like sit by another actress. Yeah. Oh

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no, she did that. No, I know this one. Yeah.

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She did it for Betty Davis. Cause the Betty Davis

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and Joan Crawford feud is like one of the biggest,

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if not the biggest in the history of Hollywood.

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I think it was Anne Bancroft who won over Betty

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Davis. So Joan and Anne Bancroft wasn't there.

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So Joan Crawford apparently went up and. just

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so she could say to Betty Davis, excuse me, I

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have to get my Oscar. Yeah, basically. She's

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very savvy of the situation. Yes. Mike, let's

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make sure we never turn into Joan Crawford and

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Betty Davis. I think we're okay. Besides the

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fact that I didn't sign her yearbook, I think

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we'll be all right. Yeah. So let's get jumped

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into this because we have a lot to get through.

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This is probably going to be two episodes, just

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seeing how long each thing is going to take,

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which is totally fine. We're probably going to

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release it. Usually we release on Thursdays.

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We're probably going to release the first part

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on Tuesday with the second part on Thursday because

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the show is Sunday. So let's get into it. I'm

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going to read you the category and the nominees,

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and then we're going to make our predictions.

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First, we are going to start with Best Animated

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Short. Not televised, of course. Best Animated

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Short nominees are Affairs of the Art, Bestia,

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Box Ballet, Robin Robin, and The Windshield Wiper.

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Guys, who has seen any of these? Please. I have.

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Say something. I have. Okay, what do you got,

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Mark? This is why Mark's our expert. Lead me

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in the right direction. And just so we know,

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I do have a prediction because Mark wanted this

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to be clear. We go to our experts last, so we're

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not like jumping on their coattails. I do have

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a prediction. It's not changing no matter what

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you say. So go ahead. Well, I also mentioned

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too that I won't have all of my predictions finalized

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because we still have certain awards coming up.

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I'll let you know where to find my final ones

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and stuff like that. So I have seen two of these.

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There's actually a way you can see these in theater,

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which is not easy for me in Chicago because,

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as Mike knows, parking downtown Chicago is not

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fun. Miserable. Or cheap. Or cheap, for that

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matter. So I wouldn't be able to see all of them

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in time. But some of these I got to see. Some

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you can see online. The two I saw were Affairs

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of the Art, which was, I think, through the New

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Yorker or something like that, their website.

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It was bizarre. really like bizarre animated

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movie if you have kids do not let them see that

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movie at all um i mean it's like yeah anyway

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and the other which i believe is the favorite

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here which was a cute one is on netflix which

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is robin robin that is the odds on favorite yep

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yeah so at the so yeah my go -to for that would

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so that would be my first choice for that as

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of right now jill what do you got i know nothing

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about these films but i like the name robin because

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it makes me think of robin williams and it makes

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me think of kermit's nephew robin the frog so

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robin robin mitchell i'm gonna go with uh the

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dick grayson tim drake mac mashup of robin robin

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as well so uh and honestly it's just because

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of the betting odds Okay. Well, I already like

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it even more because it's by the same production

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company that does Wallace and Gromit. Oh, no

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way. Okay. You can totally tell I prepared for

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this. So yeah, Robin Robin even more so locks

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in to support stop motion animation. And I'm

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pretty sure it's across the board. I chose Robin

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Robin as well for the singular reason of one

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of the people nominated for Robin Robin has the

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name Mike. So yeah. One quick thing. One quick

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thing before we go, I forgot to mention. I can't

00:19:50.529 --> 00:19:53.809
speak for you guys, but for me, I, when we say

00:19:53.809 --> 00:19:56.150
like odds on favorites and stuff, I know nothing

00:19:56.150 --> 00:19:59.210
about betting or anything like that. So I don't

00:19:59.210 --> 00:20:02.289
want people adding me or whatever saying, how

00:20:02.289 --> 00:20:04.869
dare you make me lose my car or something like

00:20:04.869 --> 00:20:08.809
that. Yes. Please do not bet on our picks. We

00:20:08.809 --> 00:20:11.650
do not claim to win you money. If you're going

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to a family pool or something like that, that's

00:20:13.769 --> 00:20:15.670
a different story, but don't like go to Vegas

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and put the house down on Robin Robin. yeah everyone

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was like well yeah you're the masters of your

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own fate but literally you are the you're the

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one who chose not us so no blaming yes exactly

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everyone thought last year chad bozeman was a

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sure shoe in and then he didn't win so right

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now yep oh yeah that's a whole other discussion

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yeah that was just you died you deserve an oscar

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yeah But he was a good actor, so I don't want

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to sound like he didn't deserve it. All right.

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Best documentary short. Here are our nominees.

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Nominees are Audible, Lead Me Home, The Queen

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of Basketball, Three Songs for Benazir, and When

00:21:00.430 --> 00:21:02.750
We Were Bullies. And I guarantee I'm going to

00:21:02.750 --> 00:21:05.430
pronounce one of these wrong eventually, so don't

00:21:05.430 --> 00:21:07.829
judge me. I'm trying to hook down phonics as

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shit. Mike, I think you said Queen of Basketball,

00:21:11.369 --> 00:21:14.900
correct? Yes. And that is actually my pick. Now,

00:21:14.940 --> 00:21:17.799
it is the favorite, not a heavy favorite, but

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is currently the favorite in this category. But

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the reason why I'm picking it is, one, I've seen

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it. It is on YouTube. I think it was put up at

00:21:25.619 --> 00:21:29.359
the New York Times. And this is a short about

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the first and only woman to be drafted by an

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NBA team back in the 1960s. So ESPN did some

00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:39.980
coverage on her story before, but this is now

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just a documentary treatment. She is so delightful

00:21:42.910 --> 00:21:46.769
in it. She has now passed away. But in the shooting

00:21:46.769 --> 00:21:49.630
of this documentary, she was incredible. And

00:21:49.630 --> 00:21:52.630
Shaquille O 'Neal was an executive producer on

00:21:52.630 --> 00:21:54.970
this project. So I have a lot of rooting interest

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here. I'm a huge Shaq fan. Queen of Basketball

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is my pick here. Okay. Is that the only one you

00:22:02.549 --> 00:22:05.670
saw? Oh, yeah. So I'm only going to go with what

00:22:05.670 --> 00:22:09.700
I know. Okay, gotcha. What about you, Mike? So

00:22:09.700 --> 00:22:12.920
I'm going queen of basketball as well. I've heard

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of when we were bullies and those were the two

00:22:15.740 --> 00:22:18.539
I was deciding between. The reason I'm going

00:22:18.539 --> 00:22:21.400
queen of basketball. And I, again, I just want

00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:23.339
it to be clear. I was thinking that before Mitchell

00:22:23.339 --> 00:22:25.680
said anything and before you mentioned odds on

00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:30.339
favorite, anything like that, this is what the

00:22:30.339 --> 00:22:32.519
third year in a row, something basketball related

00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:36.519
has been nominated. And, and I mean, but truthfully,

00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:40.410
and every single one has won. There's the Kobe

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one, and then there was... There's the animated

00:22:46.450 --> 00:22:50.150
one from last year, there before. Yeah. That

00:22:50.150 --> 00:22:52.630
was the Kobe one, the animated one. No, no, I

00:22:52.630 --> 00:22:54.509
was thinking of a different one. I'd have to

00:22:54.509 --> 00:22:57.150
look this up. Yeah, I'm looking it up, but yes.

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It's the third one, and it just feels like every

00:23:00.509 --> 00:23:03.670
single time basketball is in the running, because

00:23:03.670 --> 00:23:05.450
people can relate to it, and that's the reason

00:23:05.450 --> 00:23:08.339
why I think it's... it does so well is because

00:23:08.339 --> 00:23:10.420
people relate to it and they feel the passion.

00:23:10.460 --> 00:23:13.119
They feel the everything with it. So that's why

00:23:13.119 --> 00:23:15.420
when I saw a basketball, I was like, all right,

00:23:15.460 --> 00:23:21.829
this is going to be it. Yeah. Yeah. So. for oh

00:23:21.829 --> 00:23:25.730
wait sorry joe what's that you're yeah um i'm

00:23:25.730 --> 00:23:27.789
gonna go against the green here i haven't seen

00:23:27.789 --> 00:23:31.109
any of them but i did hear about audible which

00:23:31.109 --> 00:23:33.930
um follows a maryland school of the death senior

00:23:33.930 --> 00:23:37.970
athlete um and his teammates journey to defend

00:23:37.970 --> 00:23:40.650
a winning streak um i believe it's with football

00:23:40.650 --> 00:23:43.589
um and they're also dealing with the death of

00:23:43.589 --> 00:23:47.569
a friend and you know what Let's see the basketball

00:23:47.569 --> 00:23:52.609
documentary or short streak die. Let's let's

00:23:52.609 --> 00:23:55.789
let's do something different. And also just the

00:23:55.789 --> 00:23:59.710
story sounded really intriguing. And, you know,

00:23:59.730 --> 00:24:04.789
why not? Yeah. All right. So I have seen four

00:24:04.789 --> 00:24:08.650
of these. The only one. Well, three of them are

00:24:08.650 --> 00:24:12.960
on Netflix. uh which were the three on netflix

00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:16.339
were the audible lead me home and three songs

00:24:16.339 --> 00:24:19.359
for ben azir the one we were bullies i found

00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:22.700
out this and even playing like for the public

00:24:22.700 --> 00:24:25.519
until after the oscars which is never interesting

00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:31.200
i like that yeah um but yeah i think i'd probably

00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:33.240
end up going queen of basketball as the odds

00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:35.579
-on favorite i did like audible probably the

00:24:35.579 --> 00:24:37.720
most out of all of them and that's interesting

00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:41.920
for the lead me home because of the subject matter

00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:46.500
which talks about the uh the homelessness problem

00:24:46.500 --> 00:24:54.119
in los angeles oh wow yeah so that'll be interesting

00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:57.839
to see how that plays out so i think mark you

00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:00.480
brought up a really good uh point in these past

00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:02.279
two categories you've been watching a lot of

00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:06.420
these on netflix and i think it's so awesome

00:25:06.420 --> 00:25:09.500
how accessible these shorts are because think

00:25:09.500 --> 00:25:12.720
back 10 years ago if you were a cinephile and

00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.039
you wanted to watch these how were you going

00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:18.059
to do it yeah yeah yeah there'd be i mean they

00:25:18.059 --> 00:25:22.680
like i was saying they sometimes have uh like

00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.259
certain theaters will say hey we're playing all

00:25:25.259 --> 00:25:27.559
the shorts in a row and yeah but only do it for

00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:31.269
like one day Yeah. And the only other time it's

00:25:31.269 --> 00:25:33.809
doing anything near me is next weekend, which

00:25:33.809 --> 00:25:37.470
is when the Oscars are. Yeah, that helps. Yeah.

00:25:38.170 --> 00:25:41.289
So well, especially for somebody like me, I worked

00:25:41.289 --> 00:25:45.210
weekends up until now. Hey. And so it became

00:25:45.210 --> 00:25:48.009
I couldn't go to these because, you know, you

00:25:48.009 --> 00:25:49.829
pay for your money and then you have to leave.

00:25:49.910 --> 00:25:54.490
Like, no, you know, it doesn't work out. You

00:25:54.490 --> 00:25:56.410
know, I probably could have seen it anyway. But

00:25:56.410 --> 00:25:59.460
yeah, you're right on about. Where could you

00:25:59.460 --> 00:26:01.279
see it before Netflix and that kind of stuff?

00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:05.140
That brings us to our final of the shorts categories.

00:26:05.299 --> 00:26:08.460
Best live action short. Here are your nominees.

00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:10.960
This is going to be said wrong. I can already

00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:16.200
tell. A La Cachou, Take and Run, The Dress, The

00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:21.660
Long Goodbye, On My Mind, and Please Hold. I've

00:26:21.660 --> 00:26:24.200
got mine right away. Just looking at these categories.

00:26:24.940 --> 00:26:28.529
I see Riz Ahmed. I say Riz Ahmed. The Long Goodbye

00:26:28.529 --> 00:26:31.710
is my pick. I don't know if Saad's on favorite.

00:26:31.849 --> 00:26:35.210
I just saw Riz Ahmed and said yes, because anything

00:26:35.210 --> 00:26:39.049
that man does, yes. Yeah, Mike, it is the favorite

00:26:39.049 --> 00:26:43.789
at minus 225. And that's going to be my pick

00:26:43.789 --> 00:26:45.670
as well. What's interesting about this movie

00:26:45.670 --> 00:26:48.029
in particular, this short film in particular,

00:26:48.109 --> 00:26:51.769
is that I had heard of it. So I haven't seen

00:26:51.769 --> 00:26:53.950
it. I haven't heard about this movie for two

00:26:53.950 --> 00:26:57.180
years. So I'm really curious because I remember

00:26:57.180 --> 00:27:00.440
this being talked about when Sound of Metal was

00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:02.259
out last year, you know, just like talking about

00:27:02.259 --> 00:27:05.220
Riz Ahmed. And I'm just curious how the nomination

00:27:05.220 --> 00:27:08.380
process goes for short films like this, if they

00:27:08.380 --> 00:27:11.359
had been around for that long. Anyway, I'm making

00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:13.799
that my pick as well. Mark, I'm sure you have

00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:16.140
seen it or at least some of the other nominees.

00:27:16.859 --> 00:27:19.400
Curious what you have to say. Well, actually

00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.720
that is the only one I've seen because it thankfully

00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:25.680
is, you can see it right now. It's on YouTube

00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:31.099
for free. And, um, it's also really, really powerful

00:27:31.099 --> 00:27:35.779
too. It's, uh, so yeah. Um, unless if I get around

00:27:35.779 --> 00:27:38.420
to seeing the others and seeing it, but it, it,

00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:40.940
it is the odds. I'm favorite. That's the one

00:27:40.940 --> 00:27:44.019
I'm, that'll be my first, basically almost for

00:27:44.019 --> 00:27:46.420
sure. When I'll say it's going to win is the

00:27:46.420 --> 00:27:49.509
long goodbye. Lock it down. I have not heard

00:27:49.509 --> 00:27:53.029
of any of these, so I will bow down to popular

00:27:53.029 --> 00:27:55.589
opinion and say the long goodbye as well. Although,

00:27:55.670 --> 00:28:00.529
from a quick skim of each of these, the dress

00:28:00.529 --> 00:28:05.250
and On My Mind sounds very, very interesting.

00:28:05.369 --> 00:28:08.829
Specifically, particularly On My Mind, which

00:28:08.829 --> 00:28:11.630
I believe is a Danish film. I'd like to have

00:28:11.630 --> 00:28:15.170
an opportunity to see that, if possible, in the

00:28:15.170 --> 00:28:17.680
near future. I'm looking at the name Kim Magnuson

00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:19.680
and I feel like I recognize that from somewhere.

00:28:21.220 --> 00:28:24.779
But it could just be a familiar name. Okay, pulling

00:28:24.779 --> 00:28:29.920
up the category I know best. Visual effects.

00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:33.579
Yay, finally. Now I can talk with confidence

00:28:33.579 --> 00:28:36.599
here. I have seen four of the five of these movies.

00:28:36.940 --> 00:28:40.559
Which is the fifth you haven't seen? Dune. It

00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:44.019
never had anything for me. I know everybody says

00:28:44.019 --> 00:28:46.079
go see Dune and everything like that, and especially

00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:48.440
that it's on HBO Max. I can just watch it whenever.

00:28:48.900 --> 00:28:52.759
Literally, it just had no interest at all for

00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:58.240
me. I'll start with this one. Let's read the

00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:03.099
nominees first. We'll get to you. You'll go first.

00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:05.759
Don't worry. Visual effects category. The nominees

00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:10.670
are Dune, Free Guy, No Time to Die, Shang -Chi

00:29:10.670 --> 00:29:13.210
and the Legend of the Ten Rings, and Spider -Man

00:29:13.210 --> 00:29:16.829
No Way Home. These categories are all in alphabetical

00:29:16.829 --> 00:29:18.769
order, I've noticed as well, just in case you're

00:29:18.769 --> 00:29:20.690
thinking I'm reading it in one way or the other.

00:29:21.089 --> 00:29:23.609
Jill, go ahead. You can get us started. So I've

00:29:23.609 --> 00:29:25.690
seen four of the five as well. The one I have

00:29:25.690 --> 00:29:28.829
not seen is No Time to Die. I had genuinely no

00:29:28.829 --> 00:29:32.490
interest in seeing the last Bond film. I think

00:29:32.490 --> 00:29:36.329
it will likely be Dune. To me, that is the one.

00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.180
that has the strongest visual effects throughout

00:29:41.180 --> 00:29:45.059
um Shang -Chi and Spider -Man were both really

00:29:45.059 --> 00:29:48.599
great films particularly with Shang -Chi at the

00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:53.000
end it turns into a CGI you know bonanza yeah

00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:57.079
that's I'm happy it's nominated I don't know

00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:00.660
if it if it wins I would be a little eye roll

00:30:00.660 --> 00:30:03.559
I think Dune is by far the better film three

00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.319
guy was fine same deal it looks nice but the

00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.039
whole film has a lot of visual effects and by

00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:12.700
the end you kind of start to see the chips in

00:30:12.700 --> 00:30:17.019
the paint um yeah but dune looks consistently

00:30:17.019 --> 00:30:23.460
great throughout um all the way so in my order

00:30:23.460 --> 00:30:28.539
no time to die is fifth out of five and not for

00:30:28.539 --> 00:30:30.970
any reason like it was a good movie but There's

00:30:30.970 --> 00:30:33.509
just barely any real visual effects. Like, yeah,

00:30:33.549 --> 00:30:36.529
there's some, of course, but for the most part,

00:30:36.609 --> 00:30:39.309
they went with practical stuff. So it's not like

00:30:39.309 --> 00:30:43.569
it's a bunch of CGI fight scenes or anything

00:30:43.569 --> 00:30:45.930
like that. You know, that kind of thing. The

00:30:45.930 --> 00:30:48.690
two I was stuck with, because Free Guy and Shang

00:30:48.690 --> 00:30:50.549
-Chi were kind of in the middle for me. The two

00:30:50.549 --> 00:30:52.150
I was stuck with was Spider -Man No Way Home

00:30:52.150 --> 00:30:55.490
and Dune. When we're talking about visual effects,

00:30:55.789 --> 00:30:58.170
I think Spider -Man No Way Home is going to pull

00:30:58.170 --> 00:31:02.069
it off. Not because Dune's bad in any way, shape,

00:31:02.089 --> 00:31:03.710
or form. Again, I haven't seen it, so I can't

00:31:03.710 --> 00:31:07.470
say fully. But I just feel like in this particular

00:31:07.470 --> 00:31:10.369
category, just more so because I think Dune's

00:31:10.369 --> 00:31:13.730
going to get more later on. So I think this is

00:31:13.730 --> 00:31:16.849
kind of like the throw a bone to a superhero

00:31:16.849 --> 00:31:19.269
movie one. And if you're going to throw it to

00:31:19.269 --> 00:31:21.369
a superhero movie, Spider -Man No Way Home beats

00:31:21.369 --> 00:31:24.410
Shang -Chi, in my opinion. That's the only reason

00:31:24.410 --> 00:31:26.990
why I say Spider -Man No Way Home over Dune.

00:31:27.660 --> 00:31:33.359
I don't think I would ever say that fully. Yeah.

00:31:33.460 --> 00:31:35.779
So Mike, I'm with you there. I'm not going to

00:31:35.779 --> 00:31:37.500
pick Spider -Man No Way Home. It's my number

00:31:37.500 --> 00:31:40.640
two. I'm going to go with Dune. And I'll say

00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:43.920
this, having watched Dune in a theater, blown

00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:46.339
away by it, really blown away by the quality

00:31:46.339 --> 00:31:49.000
of the visuals. And Denis Villeneuve, I know

00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:51.619
he's not technically someone nominated in this

00:31:51.619 --> 00:31:54.980
category, but he has a strong hold on visuals.

00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:57.819
overall whether you're talking about blade runner

00:31:57.819 --> 00:32:00.380
where you're talking about arrival uh this guy

00:32:00.380 --> 00:32:03.619
has a really good sense of scale and i think

00:32:03.619 --> 00:32:06.680
that is one of the biggest parts of the visual

00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:11.119
effects for dune um and i was just blown away

00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:15.500
by it um so that is by far my favorite of these

00:32:15.500 --> 00:32:17.700
five when it comes to visual effects so that's

00:32:17.700 --> 00:32:22.240
going to be my pick nice mark yeah i won't uh

00:32:22.829 --> 00:32:25.009
beat around the bush too much here. I have seen

00:32:25.009 --> 00:32:29.730
all five, but Dune was Dune is going to win this.

00:32:29.769 --> 00:32:35.150
It has to. That movie in theaters was just mind

00:32:35.150 --> 00:32:40.569
blowing and also interesting thing to kind of

00:32:40.569 --> 00:32:43.009
going up against Shang -Chi and Spider -Man.

00:32:43.609 --> 00:32:46.950
Sadly, of all movies in the MCU nominated in

00:32:46.950 --> 00:32:53.099
visual effects, none of them have won. Wow. Okay.

00:32:53.220 --> 00:32:57.240
Consistently. Yeah. Well, I'm ready to eat crow

00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:00.519
on this one. Yeah. Again, it's tough because

00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.559
I haven't seen Dune, and it's my own doing. It's

00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:09.480
my own Duning. I was going to say that, you bastard.

00:33:10.460 --> 00:33:13.039
I was going to let him say it because I was just

00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.299
like, do I really want to bite that? No, not

00:33:15.299 --> 00:33:17.380
really. I'm good. I wanted to bite it. I wanted

00:33:17.380 --> 00:33:19.920
to bite the bullet on that one. Yeah. So it led

00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:24.130
to my own Dune. I'm going to take a second though

00:33:24.130 --> 00:33:26.269
to acknowledge a film that was not nominated

00:33:26.269 --> 00:33:29.130
and maybe visual effects isn't the exact category

00:33:29.130 --> 00:33:31.809
that it would have been represented in but it

00:33:31.809 --> 00:33:33.470
wasn't nominated for anything and that's The

00:33:33.470 --> 00:33:35.529
Green Knight. I knew you were going to say that.

00:33:35.809 --> 00:33:39.990
I was thinking it should be in here. That is

00:33:39.990 --> 00:33:44.289
one of the few movies I missed last year. I still

00:33:44.289 --> 00:33:46.450
have to say that. I saw that in a theater and

00:33:46.450 --> 00:33:50.369
it was fantastic. I'm very disappointed it didn't

00:33:50.369 --> 00:33:53.000
get nominated for anything it would have been

00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:57.420
eligible for including um actor director um original

00:33:57.420 --> 00:34:01.700
story um original uh screenplay things like that

00:34:01.700 --> 00:34:03.920
it should have at least gotten some recognition

00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:08.159
um i think it's really unfair and it what's strange

00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:11.300
is that i feel like five six ten years ago that

00:34:11.300 --> 00:34:13.820
film would have been nominated because it was

00:34:13.820 --> 00:34:17.840
so weird and different and now it didn't happen

00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:20.460
at all and and having not seen the green knight

00:34:20.460 --> 00:34:24.170
either i would 100 % put it in over No Time to

00:34:24.170 --> 00:34:27.789
Die and have a harder choice overall. Sorry,

00:34:30.809 --> 00:34:32.389
I was just going to say it also has to do with

00:34:32.389 --> 00:34:36.429
for us who are not in Hollywood or in the business,

00:34:36.570 --> 00:34:38.849
I should say, because I know Mitch is out there.

00:34:38.989 --> 00:34:41.329
Throw your rock at the Hollywood sign from there.

00:34:43.289 --> 00:34:47.369
The other thing that we tend to miss out a lot

00:34:47.369 --> 00:34:50.639
on is all the promoting that is done. Because

00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:54.260
there'll be a lot of that going on. And so maybe

00:34:54.260 --> 00:34:56.260
they just didn't promote the Green Knight. Maybe

00:34:56.260 --> 00:34:58.340
they did. I don't know. So anyway. That's fair.

00:34:58.420 --> 00:35:01.420
No, that's totally fair. They didn't want to

00:35:01.420 --> 00:35:03.380
put the financial power behind its Oscar nomination

00:35:03.380 --> 00:35:07.239
campaign. Yeah. So a little bit behind the curtain

00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.659
here. This is an A24 movie. So a smaller production

00:35:10.659 --> 00:35:13.900
house. But they've had success. See Moonlight.

00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:20.639
But the one film, so basically they have an Oscar

00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:23.159
budget really for one movie every year. And this

00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.159
year it was Tragedy of Macbeth. So they put their

00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:29.690
chips in that. corner. However, I definitely

00:35:29.690 --> 00:35:31.369
agree with Jill. Really love The Green Knight.

00:35:31.550 --> 00:35:34.590
I think Dip Patel delivered an amazing performance

00:35:34.590 --> 00:35:37.349
in it. And the visuals, and I would have to look

00:35:37.349 --> 00:35:39.409
at the budget. I'm sure it's not nearly as high

00:35:39.409 --> 00:35:41.710
as something as Dune or Spider -Man. I thought

00:35:41.710 --> 00:35:43.969
the visuals were incredible, especially against

00:35:43.969 --> 00:35:46.889
a smaller budget. Right. I think that film utilized

00:35:46.889 --> 00:35:50.750
a lot of practical effects as well, specifically

00:35:50.750 --> 00:35:54.550
for the titular Green Knight. But there are some

00:35:54.550 --> 00:35:59.579
really fantastic landscapes landscape shots that

00:35:59.579 --> 00:36:02.599
probably were touched up with maybe not tgi per

00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:06.139
se but um computer visual effects to make them

00:36:06.139 --> 00:36:09.480
happen and you know it like i said it's a shame

00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:11.239
that it wasn't nominated for at least something

00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:15.179
right all right we move now to non -televised

00:36:15.179 --> 00:36:20.119
category best sound nominees are belfast dune

00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:23.559
no time to die the power of the dog and west

00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:28.070
side story So glad that they, sorry, I'm just

00:36:28.070 --> 00:36:30.469
going to say one of the main things they did

00:36:30.469 --> 00:36:32.630
that made me happy, at least as they combined,

00:36:32.730 --> 00:36:36.489
combined the sound categories, because I know

00:36:36.489 --> 00:36:38.590
there is a difference apparently between sound

00:36:38.590 --> 00:36:41.230
editing and sound mixing. I don't know anyone

00:36:41.230 --> 00:36:45.090
who knows that, what those, what those are. So

00:36:45.090 --> 00:36:47.489
that at least makes it easier. Yeah. Well, would

00:36:47.489 --> 00:36:49.829
mixing be the one that makes the actual sound

00:36:49.829 --> 00:36:52.280
and then editing would be? Sure. what actually

00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.900
where you layer it into the film i think i only

00:36:54.900 --> 00:36:56.519
have a sense of that because i've watched so

00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:58.179
many behind the scenes stuff for like the lord

00:36:58.179 --> 00:37:00.199
of the rings and the hobbits so like watching

00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:03.119
them like crush pieces of metal or stamp things

00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:05.460
on the ground that would be the mixing and then

00:37:05.460 --> 00:37:07.880
the editing is like figuring out like when a

00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.320
fist connects with someone's armor what this

00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.420
sound when it should come together that that

00:37:13.420 --> 00:37:17.260
that that's my not official explanation yeah

00:37:17.260 --> 00:37:24.489
well Either way, they made it. I got one. What

00:37:24.489 --> 00:37:28.670
is it, Mike? What's that story? Why? I was going

00:37:28.670 --> 00:37:32.510
to say a musical has to stand out here. Yes.

00:37:32.750 --> 00:37:35.030
But I want you to talk about more before I give

00:37:35.030 --> 00:37:38.409
my pick. Oh, OK. I'll give you why. West Side

00:37:38.409 --> 00:37:41.969
Story, I've heard, is beautifully edited, as

00:37:41.969 --> 00:37:45.369
well as if you can make what's his name sound

00:37:45.369 --> 00:37:50.869
good? yeah baby driver baby driver uh if you

00:37:50.869 --> 00:37:53.010
can make him sound good in a singing role you

00:37:53.010 --> 00:37:56.130
deserve all the oscars because i'll be honest

00:37:56.130 --> 00:37:58.789
i don't think he can sing there you go hot take

00:37:58.789 --> 00:38:01.530
that i've heard that no i'm with you he's more

00:38:01.530 --> 00:38:03.769
of a dancer i would say like that oh yeah he

00:38:03.769 --> 00:38:06.590
can move he can yeah yeah and yeah he can put

00:38:06.590 --> 00:38:09.570
the moves on people yeah um oh don't do that

00:38:09.570 --> 00:38:13.650
don't do that all right what what was that that's

00:38:13.650 --> 00:38:18.460
a bad joke is that english uh yes the west side

00:38:18.460 --> 00:38:22.239
story is my pick um i have seen two of these

00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.840
actual movies um which is no time to die and

00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:28.920
power of the dog power of the dog was great but

00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:32.280
i don't think necessarily sound i feel like it's

00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:35.320
gonna win a lot of other categories yeah which

00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:38.000
we yeah we may be spoilers ahead for that but

00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.940
um no time to die i mean like you have to do

00:38:40.940 --> 00:38:43.280
the shooting and everything like that and like

00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:48.699
sound effects it's good um but i don't know for

00:38:48.699 --> 00:38:52.199
me west side story the musical aspect um i'm

00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.739
sure belfast and dune are beautiful on that yeah

00:38:55.739 --> 00:38:59.360
i have i'm gonna say it's dune for me um primarily

00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:01.000
because that's the one of the only one of the

00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:04.619
five here that i've seen but the sound in there

00:39:04.619 --> 00:39:08.150
does sound it for lack of a better word it sounds

00:39:08.150 --> 00:39:11.190
amazing um it sounds real things have weight

00:39:11.190 --> 00:39:14.949
to them ships make the sounds that you would

00:39:14.949 --> 00:39:17.309
imagine they would in different environments

00:39:17.309 --> 00:39:20.630
because they there is some planetary travel um

00:39:20.630 --> 00:39:22.929
i would imagine that west side story probably

00:39:22.929 --> 00:39:25.670
does have very good sound mixing and sound editing

00:39:25.670 --> 00:39:29.699
um but without actually seeing slash hearing

00:39:29.699 --> 00:39:33.119
it um i i don't feel comfortable throwing that

00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:35.880
my vote to them and also as an aside oh i do

00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:38.440
i'm a whore as an aside i just don't like the

00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:42.539
story of west side story um it's fine i think

00:39:42.539 --> 00:39:45.260
the original film from the late 60s early 70s

00:39:45.260 --> 00:39:50.679
was it perfectly perfectly fine happy you know

00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:52.579
i'm happy we have that did we really need a second

00:39:52.579 --> 00:39:55.900
remake sure um love to see the remake of jesus

00:39:55.900 --> 00:40:00.329
christ superstar whenever that comes out um but

00:40:00.329 --> 00:40:03.070
yeah for me it's dune i said story's like one

00:40:03.070 --> 00:40:05.130
of my favorite musicals you just shot me i just

00:40:05.130 --> 00:40:07.289
don't like romeo and juliet narratives i just

00:40:07.289 --> 00:40:10.090
am bored and tired and there's nothing they're

00:40:10.090 --> 00:40:12.670
like i've heard the performances are good the

00:40:12.670 --> 00:40:15.969
dancing looks amazing it's looks like when you're

00:40:15.969 --> 00:40:19.010
a jet you're a jet all the way it looks like

00:40:19.010 --> 00:40:22.590
it's filmed beautifully but i just this is not

00:40:22.590 --> 00:40:24.150
my favorite musical i saw a live production of

00:40:24.150 --> 00:40:26.829
my fair lady two weeks ago for like 30 dollars

00:40:26.829 --> 00:40:29.869
same and i definitely don't like that musical

00:40:29.869 --> 00:40:32.690
but no 30 dollars to see a live stage production

00:40:32.690 --> 00:40:35.570
of that i'll cross it off the list but yeah i've

00:40:35.570 --> 00:40:37.489
never seen my fair lady and we decided to go

00:40:37.489 --> 00:40:39.730
last minute no i'm with you on that yeah and

00:40:39.730 --> 00:40:42.789
really good production if anyone likes musicals

00:40:42.789 --> 00:40:45.210
out there the 19 the 2018 revival of my fair

00:40:45.210 --> 00:40:49.889
lady is quite good mark i'll let you go and i

00:40:49.889 --> 00:40:52.510
was just gonna say who wants to sound off oh

00:40:52.510 --> 00:40:55.670
i have to uh well i have to oh wow i just got

00:40:55.670 --> 00:40:59.349
that sorry i'm still kind of uh trying to process

00:40:59.349 --> 00:41:03.409
not liking my fair lady which is very sexist

00:41:03.409 --> 00:41:08.750
okay it's still a but the okay again another

00:41:08.750 --> 00:41:13.250
podcast but she ended up with the wrong guy just

00:41:13.250 --> 00:41:16.909
so you know Well, Mike, very quickly, just so

00:41:16.909 --> 00:41:19.449
you know, you know, the the movie My Fair Lady,

00:41:19.630 --> 00:41:22.110
the main actor in it, Rex Harrison, you know

00:41:22.110 --> 00:41:26.829
who he inspired? Yeah, it was the inspiration

00:41:26.829 --> 00:41:30.869
of Stewie Griffin. Nice. Oh, yeah, I see that.

00:41:30.929 --> 00:41:39.610
All right. All right. Well, OK, so just to keep

00:41:39.610 --> 00:41:43.300
it going for sound, I'm thinking that's a. one

00:41:43.300 --> 00:41:45.260
of those quote unquote below the line categories,

00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:48.380
I'm going to agree with Jill on this and go with

00:41:48.380 --> 00:41:53.099
Dune. At least right now. Yeah, just like as

00:41:53.099 --> 00:41:56.019
a final thing, I think there's one particular

00:41:56.019 --> 00:41:59.619
moment in Dune that sold me on why it should

00:41:59.619 --> 00:42:03.559
win best sound here. And Jill, Mark, you've seen

00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:05.300
it too, right? You've seen Dune? Absolutely,

00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:09.880
yeah. That transition that they make when, and

00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:12.460
I forgot the... name of the different people

00:42:12.460 --> 00:42:15.179
um in the in the movie but i still loved it there's

00:42:15.179 --> 00:42:18.039
a sound transition where it goes it's ambient

00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:21.519
sound and then it goes into the score like for

00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:25.739
that sequence i was like blown away of how smooth

00:42:25.739 --> 00:42:28.400
that transition was was it with house harkonnen

00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:32.760
I think it was. And I was just like, okay, this

00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:35.400
is like, they are operating on a completely different

00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:37.860
level. And for all the reasons, Jill, what you

00:42:37.860 --> 00:42:40.780
said of how authentic and real all the sounds

00:42:40.780 --> 00:42:44.699
seem to be blown away by it. And again, another

00:42:44.699 --> 00:42:46.500
reason to see it in a theater, if you're able

00:42:46.500 --> 00:42:49.800
and if you're comfortable with going, it really

00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.619
sold me on it. So I'm going with Dune. One of

00:42:52.619 --> 00:42:54.599
the rare times I would actually pick against

00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:57.440
a musical in a best sound category. Well, fine.

00:42:57.929 --> 00:43:01.190
i see how it is whatever whatever be wrong in

00:43:01.190 --> 00:43:03.829
your wrongness whatever i guess i'm happy you

00:43:03.829 --> 00:43:06.650
know and i'm happy that we are that musicals

00:43:06.650 --> 00:43:09.610
are coming back into i don't want to say vogue

00:43:09.610 --> 00:43:13.929
but coming back into fashion i would rather have

00:43:13.929 --> 00:43:17.789
them not remake already existing films or rather

00:43:17.789 --> 00:43:21.369
see newer adaptations of stage musicals that

00:43:21.369 --> 00:43:23.250
haven't been made put to film but you know if

00:43:23.250 --> 00:43:25.170
they're going to do it do it well and what i've

00:43:25.170 --> 00:43:27.449
heard about west side story is that this is an

00:43:27.449 --> 00:43:31.010
a -plus effort and it really it captures the

00:43:31.010 --> 00:43:33.929
spirit while also updating the material a bit

00:43:33.929 --> 00:43:38.849
last year last year was a great year for musicals

00:43:38.849 --> 00:43:41.590
for the most part nominated for anything it didn't

00:43:41.590 --> 00:43:45.070
it didn't that i that was probably my favorite

00:43:45.949 --> 00:43:48.869
Of last year. I saw that one and I thought that

00:43:48.869 --> 00:43:52.570
was a really good. Yeah. I just want to thank

00:43:52.570 --> 00:43:57.929
you Mitchell for snapping along with me. So I

00:43:57.929 --> 00:43:59.929
have a question about a film in this category.

00:44:00.269 --> 00:44:02.730
After you read off the names. Okay. Let me read

00:44:02.730 --> 00:44:05.650
off the names. We are to makeup and hairstyling.

00:44:05.750 --> 00:44:08.070
The reason I'm not going to the Oscars is solidarity

00:44:08.070 --> 00:44:12.809
of these people. The nominees are coming to America.

00:44:13.530 --> 00:44:18.179
Cruella. Dune. Eyes of Tammy Faye and House of

00:44:18.179 --> 00:44:21.719
Gucci. My question is, is this the House of Gucci's

00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:25.340
only nomination? It is. It is. And that was supposed,

00:44:25.539 --> 00:44:27.440
that was Oscar, I don't want to say it was Oscar

00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:29.699
baited, but I feel like that when the - It was

00:44:29.699 --> 00:44:32.920
a failed Oscar bait movie. Yeah, it rubbed people

00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:35.579
the wrong way. Did you see that, Mike? I was

00:44:35.579 --> 00:44:39.000
always curious of you. No. Because I mean, because

00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.880
I was going to say, a lot of the time they're

00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:45.159
- It seems like it's definitely overacted. I

00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:47.880
mean, Jared Leto seems like he got into character

00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:53.400
by playing like 12 -hour weeks or 12 -hour day

00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:57.199
weeks of Mario the whole time. Yep. Because that's

00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:00.400
entirely, he's like, I want to fly like a pigeon.

00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:02.539
Yes, exactly. Or something like that, you know?

00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:06.300
He was on like 16 five -hour energies. Yeah.

00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:11.409
But no. That is the only one was for its makeup,

00:45:11.530 --> 00:45:14.670
which is good makeup. Yeah, because the movie

00:45:14.670 --> 00:45:18.090
about fashion being nominated for makeup and

00:45:18.090 --> 00:45:20.170
hairstyling, I know it's not that, in itself

00:45:20.170 --> 00:45:21.989
it's not fashion, but those are accessories that

00:45:21.989 --> 00:45:26.610
complement it. I just kind of find it funny where

00:45:26.610 --> 00:45:29.090
it's like this movie was thrown around as like

00:45:29.090 --> 00:45:32.349
this big Oscar heavyweight and then here it is

00:45:32.349 --> 00:45:34.949
with just one. It's the opposite story of The

00:45:34.949 --> 00:45:37.530
Last Duel. The Last Duel got nominated for anything.

00:45:38.849 --> 00:45:41.190
Both directed by the same guy, too, for that

00:45:41.190 --> 00:45:44.849
matter. Oh, are they? Yeah, Ridley Scott. I was

00:45:44.849 --> 00:45:47.070
going to say, oh, Jill, I thought that's why

00:45:47.070 --> 00:45:48.710
you brought up The Last School, because of Ridley

00:45:48.710 --> 00:45:52.010
Scott. I forgot that Ridley Scott directed House

00:45:52.010 --> 00:45:55.849
of Gucci. I knew they did. He did Last School.

00:45:56.110 --> 00:45:58.650
Who's he blaming for House of Gucci? Is it us

00:45:58.650 --> 00:46:01.429
millennials on our phone still? I think he went

00:46:01.429 --> 00:46:06.969
down to Gen Z. Gen Z? Okay. He went down. So,

00:46:08.780 --> 00:46:10.639
i just need to bring up the fact that coming

00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:13.679
to america is nominated for an oscar not coming

00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:18.820
to america the original coming to america no

00:46:18.820 --> 00:46:23.539
yeah no eddie murphy baby yeah eddie murphy's

00:46:23.539 --> 00:46:25.559
career has been on the upswing especially since

00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:27.940
dolomite is my name i did not see i've never

00:46:27.940 --> 00:46:31.380
seen the original coming to america You need

00:46:31.380 --> 00:46:33.159
to see it. It's so good. I want to. It's on my

00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:35.559
list. Neither have I, unfortunately. Oh, the

00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:38.239
original is so good, and the fact that they made

00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:40.920
a sequel, and it was just so... They got a lot

00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:42.739
of the original actors back, at least. They did.

00:46:42.860 --> 00:46:45.320
They did it 25 years later, or whatever it was,

00:46:45.420 --> 00:46:48.559
and, like, impressive. Great job. Probably more

00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:54.739
than that. Holy shit. Yeah. Go for it. What's

00:46:54.739 --> 00:46:56.840
great is that the original, Coming to America,

00:46:57.059 --> 00:46:59.739
Mike, it was actually nominated for two Oscars,

00:46:59.739 --> 00:47:02.940
so... This one, you know, is carrying on the

00:47:02.940 --> 00:47:04.860
tradition of being nominated for Best Makeup.

00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:09.900
Coming three America. Yeah. Coming three America,

00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:12.199
baby. It's going to be coming to America, but

00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:15.699
the E in America is going to be a three. Coming

00:47:15.699 --> 00:47:22.119
to America. That's what happens, Mike. I'll remember

00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.460
that you said it. Oh, yeah. Right here, right

00:47:24.460 --> 00:47:27.780
now. So I'm a little shocked by that. Cruella

00:47:27.780 --> 00:47:32.159
had decent makeup and hairstyling. The two things

00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:34.539
that went to my head was Dune and Eyes of Tammy

00:47:34.539 --> 00:47:38.099
Faye. House of Gucci, just because of Jared Leto,

00:47:38.139 --> 00:47:41.179
can't win this category for me because he just

00:47:41.179 --> 00:47:44.880
looked ridiculous. I'm going Eyes of Tammy Faye

00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.539
just because it was a complete transformation

00:47:47.539 --> 00:47:53.280
of character and it looked amazing. So I am very

00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:56.650
much... Eyes of Tammy Faye. I feel like I'm going

00:47:56.650 --> 00:47:59.369
against Dune a lot, and I don't know if I should,

00:47:59.469 --> 00:48:03.250
and it may be a bold strategy. I'm looking at

00:48:03.250 --> 00:48:04.929
a poster for House of Gucci. I feel like they

00:48:04.929 --> 00:48:07.429
should have just gone Colin Farrell in his penguin

00:48:07.429 --> 00:48:11.190
makeup outfit to stand in for Jared Leto. They

00:48:11.190 --> 00:48:12.690
don't look at all the same, but they kind of

00:48:12.690 --> 00:48:16.630
do. Just like the full body facial transformation.

00:48:18.630 --> 00:48:22.309
I'm going to give my vote to Dune again. with

00:48:22.309 --> 00:48:25.670
hairstyle and makeup there are some really memorable

00:48:25.670 --> 00:48:29.929
looks in the film and what's really cool about

00:48:29.929 --> 00:48:32.550
dune is you really get to see a lot of um i don't

00:48:32.550 --> 00:48:33.889
want to say alien races but you get to see a

00:48:33.889 --> 00:48:37.190
lot of different cultures um across the film

00:48:37.190 --> 00:48:40.070
from different planets and the way that they

00:48:40.070 --> 00:48:43.150
look suggests a lot about the infrastructure

00:48:43.150 --> 00:48:46.349
and their cultures that they represent um i will

00:48:46.349 --> 00:48:48.889
give a nod to cruella i have not actually seen

00:48:48.889 --> 00:48:52.820
it but the fashion and the hair and the makeup

00:48:52.820 --> 00:48:55.659
all look really really fantastic i believe it

00:48:55.659 --> 00:49:00.119
takes place in the 80s um and you know if if

00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.420
this is if cruella from here on out is going

00:49:02.420 --> 00:49:04.360
to be known as this like renegade fashion icon

00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:08.579
who sticks it to emma thompson you know look

00:49:08.579 --> 00:49:11.219
good while doing it and i think they do Who has

00:49:11.219 --> 00:49:13.519
a fear of Dalmatians because they killed her

00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:16.500
mom. Yeah, well, you know, well, actually not

00:49:16.500 --> 00:49:20.019
her real mom, Emma Thompson. Spoilers. Come on,

00:49:20.019 --> 00:49:24.460
man. Come on, Jillian. What's happening? All

00:49:24.460 --> 00:49:28.360
right. Who's I can't come up with a pun for this

00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:32.519
one. Who's on deck? I'll make up for last time

00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:36.000
here. So I'm going to go. You're going to do

00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.400
Coming to America? No, no, no, no. I'm going

00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:41.079
to go with the eyes of Tammy Faye. And I'm going

00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:44.099
to bring this up for a number of different categories

00:49:44.099 --> 00:49:47.760
as we discuss this. Oscars are won by narratives.

00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:51.260
And what I mean by that is in this category in

00:49:51.260 --> 00:49:53.900
particular, the entire Academy is voting on these

00:49:53.900 --> 00:49:56.000
awards. It's not just the guilds at this point.

00:49:56.139 --> 00:49:58.880
So when it comes to best makeup and hairstyling,

00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:01.880
if everyone gets a vote, what is going to drive

00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:04.119
people to vote for any of these five in particular?

00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:06.599
The Eyes of Tammy Faye has this narrative now.

00:50:07.019 --> 00:50:09.320
because of Jessica Chastain saying what she said

00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:12.079
of skipping the red carpet. So I think people

00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:15.139
are going to show their support and maybe lend

00:50:15.139 --> 00:50:18.599
their vote to the Eyes of Tammy Faye. The Oscar

00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:21.480
voting final window started on Thursday. I believe

00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:24.400
it ends tomorrow. So now is the right time to

00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:26.500
have that narrative come out. So I'm going to

00:50:26.500 --> 00:50:29.340
go with the Eyes of Tammy Faye. And to Jill's

00:50:29.340 --> 00:50:31.280
point about Cruella, I think they're going to

00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:33.780
get their Oscar in another category that we'll

00:50:33.780 --> 00:50:36.670
get to later. i'm with you on that because i

00:50:36.670 --> 00:50:38.090
think i know where you're going with this mark

00:50:38.090 --> 00:50:42.409
yeah hair is standing on edge let's go so yeah

00:50:42.409 --> 00:50:45.329
uh i'm actually just looking at up where so we

00:50:45.329 --> 00:50:47.829
are recording this on a saturday mitch and that

00:50:47.829 --> 00:50:51.190
actually uh from what i see i could be wrong

00:50:51.190 --> 00:50:54.449
oscar voting actually goes until tuesday i believe

00:50:54.449 --> 00:50:59.070
oh yeah yeah so they still have time with that

00:50:59.070 --> 00:51:03.289
um i've Yeah, I'm thinking we got to remember

00:51:03.289 --> 00:51:05.489
it's not just makeup, it's makeup and hairstyling.

00:51:05.570 --> 00:51:09.789
I think the favor is towards Eyes of Tammy Faye.

00:51:09.869 --> 00:51:13.710
So for the time being, I'll go with Eyes of Tammy

00:51:13.710 --> 00:51:17.210
Faye. I think I know what category you're referring

00:51:17.210 --> 00:51:21.829
to for Cruella. Yeah. Is it coming up here? It

00:51:21.829 --> 00:51:26.929
might be the next one here. Costume design. Look

00:51:26.929 --> 00:51:29.860
at that. This is a category filled with films

00:51:29.860 --> 00:51:31.739
I want, like with one particular film. Well,

00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:33.420
two films I really, really wanted to see that

00:51:33.420 --> 00:51:36.039
I didn't get to see. So costume design, here

00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:40.199
are the nominees. Cruella, Cyrano, Dune, Nightmare

00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:47.000
Alley, and West Side Story. Cyrano's the only

00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:49.260
one out of this that I didn't get around to seeing.

00:51:49.260 --> 00:51:51.559
I think they released that too late. I agree.

00:51:52.420 --> 00:51:54.360
I thought it was going to be out way earlier

00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:57.119
than it actually was. Yeah. That was one I was

00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:58.960
actually really excited for out of all of them,

00:51:58.980 --> 00:52:01.760
because I love the story of Cyrano and everything

00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:04.920
looks great about it. Right. Mike, you like the

00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:08.059
story about a guy who tries to like a girl, but

00:52:08.059 --> 00:52:12.500
can't because he feels he's not like good enough

00:52:12.500 --> 00:52:15.000
for her or ugly for her. Is that what you're

00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.820
saying? Yes. Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying.

00:52:18.139 --> 00:52:23.780
Yeah. Steve Martin, he just has a big nose. No,

00:52:23.780 --> 00:52:30.219
I did. He has a big nose. This version subverts

00:52:30.219 --> 00:52:39.280
it by Peter Dinklage. I saw Cyrano the opera

00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:42.820
when I was young because they made it into an

00:52:42.820 --> 00:52:46.619
opera and I loved it. I absolutely loved it.

00:52:46.699 --> 00:52:49.539
I do actually really enjoy that storyline so

00:52:49.539 --> 00:52:53.429
I do want to see it. um but that's not my winner

00:52:53.429 --> 00:52:55.250
i think a lot of people are going to choose the

00:52:55.250 --> 00:52:57.150
same because mitchell already alluded to it cruella

00:52:57.150 --> 00:53:00.949
i think it's just i was i was gonna go nightmare

00:53:00.949 --> 00:53:03.369
alley uh no just kidding uh cruella for sure

00:53:03.369 --> 00:53:06.469
yeah nightmare alley looked i need to see it

00:53:06.469 --> 00:53:09.369
it it looks like it could be a contender cruella

00:53:09.369 --> 00:53:12.199
will probably win it but i'm actually gonna broken

00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:14.099
record i'm gonna throw it at dune once again

00:53:14.099 --> 00:53:18.940
uh the specifically the outfit that stands out

00:53:18.940 --> 00:53:24.139
is when they first get to um arrakis um paul's

00:53:24.139 --> 00:53:27.780
mother is wearing this really intricate dress

00:53:27.780 --> 00:53:31.719
that um like is also supposed to be like respectful

00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:35.239
to the cultures on arrakis And it just, it looks

00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:37.380
amazing. And she's got like handmaids holding

00:53:37.380 --> 00:53:42.840
the trail, the train of it. Yeah, it like, I

00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:44.719
don't know how long it took them to make the

00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:47.519
fashions in there, including like the armor that

00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:52.699
we see, but it all looks very real. Like you

00:53:52.699 --> 00:53:55.199
could find that in the, you know, 50, 60 years

00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:57.440
in the future in a post -apocalyptic world, who

00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:00.699
knows. But I could see Cruella winning this if

00:54:00.699 --> 00:54:03.760
it's going to win anything. yeah i think it's

00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:07.239
gonna come down between those two yeah i think

00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:11.139
another thing too is um i'm i'm saying cruella

00:54:11.139 --> 00:54:14.300
will as well uh but another thing too and we

00:54:14.300 --> 00:54:17.960
got to bring this up about dune is that um it's

00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:22.000
only it's really dune part one so there's really

00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.960
a second one coming out so there could be a kind

00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:27.639
of thing where people might do something like

00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:29.559
they did with the original war of the rings trilogy

00:54:30.590 --> 00:54:33.610
where they nominated the first two they didn't

00:54:33.610 --> 00:54:36.449
win but then in the third one it just the third

00:54:36.449 --> 00:54:39.989
one won like everything yeah yeah i don't know

00:54:39.989 --> 00:54:43.190
if some return of the king is the of this the

00:54:43.190 --> 00:54:44.710
original trilogy is the one that really should

00:54:44.710 --> 00:54:46.550
have been the one that took the king goes on

00:54:46.550 --> 00:54:49.380
40 minutes too long It should have been Fellowship

00:54:49.380 --> 00:54:51.940
or my Dark Horse pick Two Towers, but Fellowship

00:54:51.940 --> 00:54:53.519
probably should have been the one that won Best

00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:55.260
Picture. But I think Mark makes a really good

00:54:55.260 --> 00:54:57.599
point that we know there's part two coming. So

00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:01.300
for all we know, Dune might whiff a lot of awards

00:55:01.300 --> 00:55:03.800
this year with the logic of the Academy saying,

00:55:03.940 --> 00:55:06.019
well, they'll make another one. There's probably

00:55:06.019 --> 00:55:08.179
very little room. There's probably little doubt

00:55:08.179 --> 00:55:10.340
that it's going to be bad. It's going to probably

00:55:10.340 --> 00:55:14.159
be very, very good. So unless it tanks, we'll...

00:55:14.570 --> 00:55:17.670
we'll give um the direct best director we'll

00:55:17.670 --> 00:55:19.510
give best picture or you know we'll see what

00:55:19.510 --> 00:55:22.130
comes out but so you're saying idiot mike has

00:55:22.130 --> 00:55:25.369
a chance with all his anti -dune boats well maybe

00:55:25.369 --> 00:55:28.809
only because i could see that being the logic

00:55:28.809 --> 00:55:30.789
that they think the next one will be equally

00:55:30.789 --> 00:55:35.610
good and will have enough of a reason to issue

00:55:35.610 --> 00:55:39.429
out the awards then but it would also look egg

00:55:39.429 --> 00:55:42.360
on their face if For some whatever reason, the

00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:45.619
wheels come off the apple cart and it isn't as

00:55:45.619 --> 00:55:51.320
successful. Okay. All right. So it sounds like

00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:55.840
we are moving on to production design. Production

00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:59.659
design nominees are Dune, Nightmare Alley, Power

00:55:59.659 --> 00:56:02.460
of the Dog, Tragedy of Macbeth, and West Side

00:56:02.460 --> 00:56:10.559
Story. Yeah, I'm going to go Dune here. And to

00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:13.340
everything that Joel was saying about the costumes,

00:56:13.579 --> 00:56:16.000
I'm giving the side edge to Cruella in that category.

00:56:16.059 --> 00:56:18.519
But you could also say the same thing about the

00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:21.079
production design. This world feels so lived

00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:25.619
in in just the best possible way. And frankly,

00:56:25.780 --> 00:56:28.380
it has a lot of different scenes and scenarios.

00:56:28.420 --> 00:56:31.820
It also makes the desert setting look beautiful,

00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:35.460
which I haven't really seen done that well since

00:56:35.460 --> 00:56:38.690
Mad Max Fury Road. So I'm going to go with Dune

00:56:38.690 --> 00:56:41.269
here and it is the favorite, not a heavy favorite,

00:56:41.349 --> 00:56:44.969
but it is the favorite in this category. I'm

00:56:44.969 --> 00:56:48.050
really actually, as soon as this popped up, I'm

00:56:48.050 --> 00:56:49.949
like, you know what? I'm not even sure if I have,

00:56:49.989 --> 00:56:52.030
I definitely don't have a for sure one on this

00:56:52.030 --> 00:56:54.210
because part of me is saying Dune, but at the

00:56:54.210 --> 00:56:57.269
same time, I think it's really close with Nightmare

00:56:57.269 --> 00:57:01.170
Alley because not to get too far ahead, but Nightmare

00:57:01.170 --> 00:57:04.349
Alley, I don't see it having a chance of winning

00:57:04.349 --> 00:57:07.550
much of anything else. entirely going forward

00:57:07.550 --> 00:57:10.829
with its nominations so it's it's really between

00:57:10.829 --> 00:57:15.449
those two for me i don't think uh i have a for

00:57:15.449 --> 00:57:19.190
sure answer as of yet people will have to wait

00:57:19.190 --> 00:57:23.389
until i type it out on my site later so it's

00:57:23.389 --> 00:57:25.210
funny you bring up nightmare alley as your second

00:57:25.210 --> 00:57:27.469
choice i was stuck between dune and tragedy and

00:57:27.469 --> 00:57:30.269
mcbeth because of the production design for that

00:57:30.269 --> 00:57:34.050
one um i'm actually going with dune shocking

00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:36.880
I know I've been against it this whole time,

00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:38.659
but I'm going with Dune on this one. The whole

00:57:38.659 --> 00:57:43.800
design of it from the opening trailer. Like I've

00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:46.440
said, it is not a movie for me. It's never had

00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:48.699
my attention because it just was not a story

00:57:48.699 --> 00:57:52.079
I cared about. But seeing the opening trailer

00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:54.920
was enough where I was like, this world looks

00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:57.780
beautiful. This world looks amazing. I'm kind

00:57:57.780 --> 00:58:01.119
of interested in it. The fact that it got me

00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:04.900
that much was. enough for me to say i think dune

00:58:04.900 --> 00:58:09.119
is going to take production design i wouldn't

00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:12.179
be surprised if it does i'm actually going to

00:58:12.179 --> 00:58:15.280
give it to my vote to nightmare alley um i agree

00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:16.760
with mark i don't think it's really going to

00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:21.739
win much else um i also know that um there was

00:58:21.739 --> 00:58:25.300
kind of like mixed reviews on it but del toro

00:58:25.300 --> 00:58:29.179
films always look incredibly distinction polished

00:58:29.179 --> 00:58:33.269
and the There wasn't any other films that really

00:58:33.269 --> 00:58:35.670
looked like Nightmare Alley this year. There's

00:58:35.670 --> 00:58:37.050
also no other films that look like Dune this

00:58:37.050 --> 00:58:40.030
year, but it's probably definitely going to win

00:58:40.030 --> 00:58:43.010
at least a couple things. So I'll throw Nightmare

00:58:43.010 --> 00:58:46.289
Alley one little Oscar bone. I'll also say there's

00:58:46.289 --> 00:58:47.969
nothing that looks like Tragedy of Macbeth this

00:58:47.969 --> 00:58:52.360
year either. True. But I didn't see as much promotional

00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:55.840
things the way that I saw Nightmare Alley. And

00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:58.860
I really, really, really wanted to see Nightmare

00:58:58.860 --> 00:59:01.079
Alley. Fair. That's the one I've been exposed

00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:04.380
to the most. I also would say that West Side

00:59:04.380 --> 00:59:06.460
Story. Yeah, I just never got around. I just

00:59:06.460 --> 00:59:08.380
couldn't get that. I know. No, I get it because

00:59:08.380 --> 00:59:10.679
Claire and I have been for two weeks saying we're

00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:13.760
going to watch it and still haven't. And you

00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:16.699
watched Hellraiser instead. I did watch Hellraiser

00:59:16.699 --> 00:59:19.900
instead. yeah i think west side story also should

00:59:19.900 --> 00:59:24.019
get a nod of recognition for production um that

00:59:24.019 --> 00:59:29.380
movie looks really bright and colorful and distinct

00:59:29.380 --> 00:59:33.440
as well okay yeah it's uh i would almost i think

00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:35.940
because of those reasons i'm gonna give that

00:59:35.940 --> 00:59:38.179
more credit to the cinematography on west side

00:59:38.179 --> 00:59:40.559
story nightmare alley just one more and again

00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:43.400
that's not my choice here but something historically

00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:45.880
that helps in this category it's a period piece

00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:48.099
right it's set in the 40s so there's a it's very

00:59:48.099 --> 00:59:50.780
showy when it comes to the production design

00:59:50.780 --> 00:59:53.840
that they're able to put out there um now typically

00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:56.079
the period pieces that have done well are older

00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:59.699
like victorian era and before um but because

00:59:59.699 --> 01:00:02.440
it's guillermo del toro because he has such a

01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:05.320
visual style about him i could totally see this

01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:08.309
also winning but i'm gonna stick with dune You

01:00:08.309 --> 01:00:11.369
bring up cinematography, and that is our next

01:00:11.369 --> 01:00:14.429
category. Best cinematography. Another category

01:00:14.429 --> 01:00:18.570
that's not going to be shown. Yeah, right. No,

01:00:18.710 --> 01:00:20.969
no, that one's still going to be shown. It is?

01:00:21.329 --> 01:00:23.690
Yes, that one is shown. Production design was

01:00:23.690 --> 01:00:27.429
not shown. Oh, I got that wrong. Yeah, cinematography

01:00:27.429 --> 01:00:29.269
is still going to be shown. Oh, I feel bad. That's

01:00:29.269 --> 01:00:31.369
fine. You're fine. It happens. Yeah, but for

01:00:31.369 --> 01:00:35.909
me, that's bad. Well, cinematography, the nominees

01:00:35.909 --> 01:00:38.869
are Dune, Nightmare Alley, The Power of the Dog,

01:00:39.090 --> 01:00:41.289
The Tragedy of Macbeth, and West Side Story.

01:00:42.289 --> 01:00:50.010
And not The Batman. Guys, look, I think I'm going

01:00:50.010 --> 01:00:52.829
to be a broken record here. And when we do our

01:00:52.829 --> 01:00:55.570
final tally at the end of this, I think Dune

01:00:55.570 --> 01:00:58.030
is going to walk away at the most Oscar trophies

01:00:58.030 --> 01:01:00.190
this year. They're just going to... dominate

01:01:00.190 --> 01:01:02.789
below the line and then just get hosed at the

01:01:02.789 --> 01:01:07.389
really big awards but uh i know uh but i really

01:01:07.389 --> 01:01:10.789
love dune and again this is i thought the power

01:01:10.789 --> 01:01:13.630
of the dog was shot beautifully as well uh tragedy

01:01:13.630 --> 01:01:16.010
macbeth you know i'm a sucker for black and white

01:01:16.010 --> 01:01:19.429
and i thought it looked amazing um but dune really

01:01:19.429 --> 01:01:21.949
stood out to me still and maybe it's the bias

01:01:21.949 --> 01:01:24.670
of seeing it in a theater but i really loved

01:01:24.670 --> 01:01:28.369
it and it would be my personal pick here it's

01:01:28.369 --> 01:01:32.269
funny you bring up theaters Because my vote was

01:01:32.269 --> 01:01:34.710
the power of the dog, but the problem is it was

01:01:34.710 --> 01:01:38.210
Netflix. And so I'm wondering if I'm, I'm making

01:01:38.210 --> 01:01:40.389
the wrong decision because people saw it in theaters.

01:01:40.989 --> 01:01:44.449
I'm going power of the dog. I really, this is

01:01:44.449 --> 01:01:46.070
one that I'm kind of like sitting on the edge

01:01:46.070 --> 01:01:49.070
of going. I don't know. Cause I watched this

01:01:49.070 --> 01:01:51.369
on Netflix and that's what it released on. And,

01:01:51.389 --> 01:01:53.710
you know, it was beautiful. It was absolutely

01:01:53.710 --> 01:01:58.980
gorgeous. But. It also is you're watching on

01:01:58.980 --> 01:02:01.300
your phone or you're watching on a computer screen

01:02:01.300 --> 01:02:04.099
or you're watching on your TV. It's not the theater

01:02:04.099 --> 01:02:07.420
experience. So I'm wondering with that one, I'm

01:02:07.420 --> 01:02:09.739
going to say Power of the Dog with a huge asterisk.

01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:15.159
But I'm going to defend Power of the Dog. I'm

01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:17.840
kind of in the same boat as Mike, except between

01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:21.599
those two. like production design i'm on the

01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:25.059
fence i guess if for back for production design

01:02:25.059 --> 01:02:27.500
i would say dune at the moment now i'll probably

01:02:27.500 --> 01:02:30.619
say the same for cinematography as well for now

01:02:30.619 --> 01:02:34.320
but you know power of the dog i remember watching

01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:36.860
like i was watching my mom which is by the way

01:02:36.860 --> 01:02:38.539
one of the weirder movies you can watch with

01:02:38.539 --> 01:02:42.190
your mom don't do it Yeah, I didn't realize what

01:02:42.190 --> 01:02:44.369
that movie was about until we were watching.

01:02:44.449 --> 01:02:46.070
I was just like, oh, it's supposed to be awards

01:02:46.070 --> 01:02:48.630
consideration wise. And Benedict Cumberbatch

01:02:48.630 --> 01:02:50.570
supposed to be really good. I start watching

01:02:50.570 --> 01:02:53.050
it. I'm like, this is one of the weirdest movies

01:02:53.050 --> 01:02:56.909
I chose to watch with my mom, especially, especially,

01:02:57.010 --> 01:03:01.750
you know, anyway. But I do remember turning to

01:03:01.750 --> 01:03:04.329
her and being like, you know, I really wish this

01:03:04.329 --> 01:03:07.869
was in the theater because the way it looks is

01:03:07.869 --> 01:03:14.010
just. stunning just absolutely stunning so yeah

01:03:14.010 --> 01:03:17.530
definitely so so i'd say for now it's dune but

01:03:17.530 --> 01:03:20.110
i could switch at the last second to pirate the

01:03:20.110 --> 01:03:24.530
dog yeah i don't know does it does it really

01:03:24.530 --> 01:03:26.650
need to be said the only one that i've seen of

01:03:26.650 --> 01:03:29.650
these is dune and mitchell really summed it up

01:03:29.650 --> 01:03:34.679
well um so my point my pick would be towards

01:03:34.679 --> 01:03:37.260
dune i think west side story and the tragedy

01:03:37.260 --> 01:03:41.079
of macbeth should be acknowledged for how great

01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:44.880
they look um you know i think all of these are

01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:48.119
worthy films if you know one wins over the other

01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:51.059
it's there will be no upsets or disappointments

01:03:51.059 --> 01:03:56.130
um But I do think Dune will likely clinch it.

01:03:56.369 --> 01:04:00.010
But I can see the power of the dog kind of coming

01:04:00.010 --> 01:04:02.210
up from behind and taking it. And I think it

01:04:02.210 --> 01:04:04.250
would be a bit of an unexpected win for the power

01:04:04.250 --> 01:04:05.489
of the dog in this one because I think it's going

01:04:05.489 --> 01:04:07.849
to swing. The Oscar votes are going to swing

01:04:07.849 --> 01:04:10.590
very well into its favor for other nominations.

01:04:11.710 --> 01:04:16.989
Okay. All right. We move on to best original

01:04:16.989 --> 01:04:21.050
song. which I can't find because I can't read

01:04:21.050 --> 01:04:25.050
the stuff. Where is it? There it is. Music. Sorry,

01:04:25.170 --> 01:04:27.769
it's listed as music original song. That's what

01:04:27.769 --> 01:04:29.230
was confusing me. I was looking for original

01:04:29.230 --> 01:04:33.369
song. So music original song. Nominees are Be

01:04:33.369 --> 01:04:40.190
Alive from King Richard. Dos Aruguitas from Encanto.

01:04:40.809 --> 01:04:43.869
Down to Joy from Belfast. No Time to Die from

01:04:43.869 --> 01:04:47.090
No Time to Die. And Somehow You Do from Four

01:04:47.090 --> 01:04:50.639
Good Days. What the fuck is that? It's going

01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:54.460
to go to Encanto. Here's the thing. First off,

01:04:54.679 --> 01:04:58.219
the Somehow You Do, the reason that probably

01:04:58.219 --> 01:05:00.179
got nominated, because that's definitely a movie

01:05:00.179 --> 01:05:02.739
I've not seen or really heard of until the Oscars,

01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:06.880
is because of who did the music and lyrics is

01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:11.780
Diane Warren. She has been nominated somewhere

01:05:11.780 --> 01:05:15.380
in the double digits, like 13 times or something,

01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:20.380
and still has not won. i and sadly i think that's

01:05:20.380 --> 01:05:22.099
probably going to be the case this year too but

01:05:22.099 --> 01:05:25.059
i'll let you guys uh well i'm just looking at

01:05:25.059 --> 01:05:27.679
the names on this thing so original song always

01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:29.960
has big names and everything like that but all

01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:35.079
right be alive is dixon and beyonce uh dos origuitas

01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:38.199
maybe i did better that time probably not but

01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:41.320
that's lynn manual miranda down to joy from van

01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:44.420
morrison no time to die billy eilish and phineas

01:05:44.420 --> 01:05:47.500
o 'connell and then somehow you do by dan uh

01:05:47.500 --> 01:05:52.159
warren um no time to die i don't think i've actually

01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:55.300
heard that bomb theme versus like when skyfall

01:05:55.300 --> 01:05:59.280
happened you couldn't escape it yes i was everywhere

01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:02.739
and it's a really really good song so it helped

01:06:02.739 --> 01:06:06.340
yeah i no time to die also came out way before

01:06:06.340 --> 01:06:09.440
the film came out because you didn't have to

01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:12.380
wait well and that's my thing with no time to

01:06:12.380 --> 01:06:18.519
die skyfall was a good song without being related

01:06:18.519 --> 01:06:21.900
to a Bond theme, No Time to Die, you kind of

01:06:21.900 --> 01:06:24.320
needed to know it was a Bond theme to enjoy it.

01:06:24.619 --> 01:06:27.320
So I don't think No Time to Die is my winner.

01:06:27.420 --> 01:06:29.420
I'm sticking with you with the Encanto pick,

01:06:29.579 --> 01:06:32.840
also because Lin -Manuel Miranda, because he's

01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:36.719
a darling for everybody. Lin -Manuel Miranda.

01:06:37.460 --> 01:06:43.079
I had to. I'm sorry, Mike. Well, I think, well,

01:06:43.219 --> 01:06:46.300
I'm... gonna be the differer here because i do

01:06:46.300 --> 01:06:48.920
think the favorite actually is no time to die

01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:52.079
and that is what i'm going with now i think what

01:06:52.079 --> 01:06:55.239
should also be mentioned is uh there were a lot

01:06:55.239 --> 01:06:58.719
of confusion for people for encanto why they

01:06:58.719 --> 01:07:01.480
don't have that movie we don't talk about bruno

01:07:04.139 --> 01:07:06.760
uh well you won't be happy to realize then jill

01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:08.659
that they're actually performing that at the

01:07:08.659 --> 01:07:10.619
oscars well when are they going to be performing

01:07:10.619 --> 01:07:13.840
this as well though because dos aguitas is um

01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:16.719
fantastic and i believe it's the first disney

01:07:16.719 --> 01:07:21.039
non -english disney song to be nominated that

01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:23.599
next oh wow that could be i believe the version

01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:27.309
of remember me Remember Me from Coco is sung

01:07:27.309 --> 01:07:29.710
a bunch of times, but I think every time it's

01:07:29.710 --> 01:07:32.590
sung, it's sung in English. I think We Don't

01:07:32.590 --> 01:07:36.789
Talk About Bruno is a really great song. My personal

01:07:36.789 --> 01:07:39.750
favorite, if I could pick any song from Encanto

01:07:39.750 --> 01:07:42.650
to be put in there, Dos Argaritas is one of them,

01:07:42.690 --> 01:07:46.010
and then Surface Pressure. I think this is the

01:07:46.010 --> 01:07:48.420
better song. Well, the thing is... people got

01:07:48.420 --> 01:07:51.900
to realize is that they only are allowed, I think,

01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:54.380
to pick one song per movie. Because like back

01:07:54.380 --> 01:07:57.099
in the 90s, when you had The Lion King and The

01:07:57.099 --> 01:07:59.380
Latin and stuff like that, you would get like

01:07:59.380 --> 01:08:02.239
three of the five nominees would all come from

01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:04.820
the same movie. So I think they just basically

01:08:04.820 --> 01:08:06.880
wanted to make sure every movie had a chance

01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:11.579
in a sense. So Lin -Manuel Miranda submitted

01:08:11.579 --> 01:08:15.400
Dos Origines. test, which I thought I would get

01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:20.060
better than Mike, and I guess I didn't. But that,

01:08:20.579 --> 01:08:24.060
I believe, happened not long before We Don't

01:08:24.060 --> 01:08:27.340
Talk About Bruno became this big viral sensation

01:08:27.340 --> 01:08:31.859
that it became. And even then, I think he ended

01:08:31.859 --> 01:08:37.600
up defending it, saying it was a much more heartfelt

01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:41.479
part to the movie than... We don't talk about

01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:43.600
Bruno. But nevertheless, I still don't think

01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:45.100
it's going to win. I still think it's going to

01:08:45.100 --> 01:08:50.680
go to No Time to Die. Yeah, guys, this is one

01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:52.840
of the tougher categories for me. I keep going

01:08:52.840 --> 01:08:55.960
back and forth between No Time to Die and Dos

01:08:55.960 --> 01:08:59.960
Orguitas. And it's for two reasons. And frankly,

01:09:00.140 --> 01:09:02.600
it has nothing to do with the songs themselves.

01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:07.180
I think a potential win for Billie Eilish at

01:09:07.180 --> 01:09:09.609
the Oscars. It could be a way for the Academy

01:09:09.609 --> 01:09:14.130
to say, hey, Gen Z, we see you. We gave Billy

01:09:14.130 --> 01:09:17.510
Eilish a trophy. He doesn't want any more trophies,

01:09:17.510 --> 01:09:20.310
though. That's the thing. But now I'm looking

01:09:20.310 --> 01:09:24.949
at Encanto and just the idea. Am I old? What?

01:09:25.229 --> 01:09:28.810
I'm not a Billy Eilish fan. Am I old? I don't

01:09:28.810 --> 01:09:32.649
like the album she did that blew her up, but

01:09:32.649 --> 01:09:35.420
happier. happier now or whatever it's called

01:09:35.420 --> 01:09:37.460
that's a really great album so like i like the

01:09:37.460 --> 01:09:40.420
song in nba but everything else i'm just kind

01:09:40.420 --> 01:09:43.279
of like meh about am i bossa nova is a great

01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:48.359
song okay i i think her and phineas make a good

01:09:48.359 --> 01:09:52.159
pair and i really love the production um but

01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:54.840
i'll say i'll say this i think i'm ultimately

01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:58.699
gonna go with encanto here dos arguitas and it's

01:09:58.699 --> 01:10:03.800
because of one I think that soundtrack in general

01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:05.859
is inescapable at this point. And that's going

01:10:05.859 --> 01:10:07.739
to be on the mind of a lot of voters, especially

01:10:07.739 --> 01:10:12.979
parent voters. And also this as to I forgot who

01:10:12.979 --> 01:10:15.779
brought it up, but the idea of representation

01:10:15.779 --> 01:10:18.640
in Spanish speaking households. Now you have

01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:21.880
a really, really big nomination here. I think

01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:24.220
that's a big deal as the Academy has expanded

01:10:24.220 --> 01:10:26.520
its roster of who is included in the Academy

01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:29.520
and it has gotten more international. So I'm

01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:32.939
going to go with Dos Ariguitas here. I'll add

01:10:32.939 --> 01:10:37.449
in on the diversification of like... of music

01:10:37.449 --> 01:10:40.189
i believe this year for like the bill with billboard

01:10:40.189 --> 01:10:44.210
top 100 they had a lot more um non -english songs

01:10:44.210 --> 01:10:46.689
that were like cracked the top 100 than ever

01:10:46.689 --> 01:10:50.229
before so there really is starting to see a shift

01:10:50.229 --> 01:10:53.270
away from like just english english songs dominating

01:10:54.189 --> 01:10:58.029
pop the charts and I'm also you know we've had

01:10:58.029 --> 01:11:00.970
like the BTS army and all of that happening but

01:11:00.970 --> 01:11:03.369
this is really refreshing to see musicians from

01:11:03.369 --> 01:11:05.510
other countries a lot of them from Latin American

01:11:05.510 --> 01:11:08.449
countries really starting to pop up and being

01:11:08.449 --> 01:11:11.189
recognized so obviously I have Saturdays off

01:11:11.189 --> 01:11:13.489
now Claire and I are trying to figure out what

01:11:13.489 --> 01:11:16.029
we're going to do tonight and one of the things

01:11:16.029 --> 01:11:18.350
that came up we're not driving all the way that's

01:11:18.350 --> 01:11:21.270
the only reason we said no but Bad Bunny is in

01:11:21.270 --> 01:11:24.180
New York tonight And we thought about going because

01:11:24.180 --> 01:11:28.119
it's just it's it's Bad Bunny. He would put on

01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:31.239
a show, it seems like. Yes, he would. All right.

01:11:31.579 --> 01:11:34.520
Music original score. These are your nominees.

01:11:34.779 --> 01:11:39.199
Don't Look Up, Dune, Encanto, Parallel Mothers,

01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:42.560
The Power of the Dog. So, Mike, can I go first

01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:44.699
on this one? Yes, you can. I'm going to make

01:11:44.699 --> 01:11:47.989
a defense of someone. And that's the. first one

01:11:47.989 --> 01:11:50.770
here because if this would be ridiculous well

01:11:50.770 --> 01:11:52.729
first off it's so ridiculous that they're not

01:11:52.729 --> 01:11:57.029
showing this award on tv yes so the heavy favorite

01:11:57.029 --> 01:12:00.149
rightfully so here and my pick is han zimmer

01:12:00.149 --> 01:12:03.750
for dune now han zimmer first off he's like one

01:12:03.750 --> 01:12:07.670
of the biggest names in movie music just behind

01:12:07.670 --> 01:12:11.170
probably only behind obviously john williams

01:12:11.170 --> 01:12:15.560
yeah but he So, and Hans Zimmer's actually only

01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:18.560
won once before. He won for The Lion King, the

01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:21.659
original way back in the day. Now, here's another

01:12:21.659 --> 01:12:23.359
thing about Dune. I don't know if you know this.

01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:27.579
Did you know that he actually made his own instruments

01:12:27.579 --> 01:12:31.979
for the score? Mitchell sent it in our group

01:12:31.979 --> 01:12:35.939
chat. Oh, he did? No, not a super kazoo. Stop

01:12:35.939 --> 01:12:40.159
it. I did not. That wasn't real? That wasn't

01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:43.180
real. No, I joked. Oh, I believed you. Jill asked

01:12:43.180 --> 01:12:45.239
what the name of the instrument was, and I was

01:12:45.239 --> 01:12:47.020
like, it's like four kazoos in one. It's called

01:12:47.020 --> 01:12:51.680
a super kazoo. Or a quad zoo or something. A

01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:56.119
quad zoo. I don't know. I can't believe you believed

01:12:56.119 --> 01:12:59.579
me. I thought Mitchell sent it, not you. There

01:12:59.579 --> 01:13:02.760
was a stamp of authority coming from Mitchell.

01:13:03.939 --> 01:13:10.680
A quad zoo. A super kazoo. Anyway, but yeah.

01:13:11.050 --> 01:13:14.189
i can't say the same for the other ones other

01:13:14.189 --> 01:13:17.789
uh composers in this category but if you make

01:13:17.789 --> 01:13:20.329
your own instruments how can you not vote for

01:13:20.329 --> 01:13:25.270
that yes i mean that's like ridiculous so i didn't

01:13:25.270 --> 01:13:27.069
know where to go with this one and then mitchell

01:13:27.069 --> 01:13:29.189
let us all know that he created his own instrument

01:13:29.189 --> 01:13:32.010
and then it became obvious uh hans zimmer all

01:13:32.010 --> 01:13:35.880
the way so and i think seeing name alone i probably

01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:38.220
still would have probably picked on zimmer i

01:13:38.220 --> 01:13:40.100
also want to know is johnny greenwood related

01:13:40.100 --> 01:13:42.899
to lee greenwood the guy who did uh proud to

01:13:42.899 --> 01:13:45.319
be an american because that makes sense i was

01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:48.279
just talking about that song yesterday i'm proud

01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:51.680
to be american and uh that song the chorus still

01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:53.500
haunts my brain i had to sing in like fifth grade

01:13:53.500 --> 01:13:56.500
yeah but like johnny greenwood if he's the son

01:13:56.500 --> 01:13:58.779
or related to lee greenwood in any way it does

01:13:58.779 --> 01:14:02.720
make sense for the power of the dog but no hans

01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:07.039
zimmer yeah And I brought this up before, but

01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:09.819
narrative, right? It's like, what is driving

01:14:09.819 --> 01:14:12.140
the narrative of these nominees beyond their

01:14:12.140 --> 01:14:15.000
work? Hans Zimmer has that with the instruments

01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:18.529
thing. But I do want to give a shout out to the

01:14:18.529 --> 01:14:21.130
Super Kazoo. I want to give a shout out to Nicholas

01:14:21.130 --> 01:14:23.609
Bertel. He doesn't need a shout out from lowly

01:14:23.609 --> 01:14:26.390
old me, but he is actually one of my favorite

01:14:26.390 --> 01:14:28.489
young composers who has now been nominated, I

01:14:28.489 --> 01:14:30.590
believe, four times. I could be wrong. This is

01:14:30.590 --> 01:14:32.789
either his third or fourth, but he was nominated

01:14:32.789 --> 01:14:35.789
for Moonlight and for one of my personal favorites.

01:14:36.130 --> 01:14:38.329
If Beale Street could talk from a couple of years

01:14:38.329 --> 01:14:43.829
ago. And he is probably most famous for scoring

01:14:43.829 --> 01:14:47.079
Succession. And coming up with the theme. So

01:14:47.079 --> 01:14:49.439
big shouts to him. But I think this is Hans Zimmer's

01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:53.380
award for sure. I agree. It's probably going

01:14:53.380 --> 01:14:56.720
to go to Dune. I think that this is one of those

01:14:56.720 --> 01:14:59.279
categories where if it didn't win, it would,

01:14:59.319 --> 01:15:01.159
I don't want to say it'd be an upset, but it

01:15:01.159 --> 01:15:04.720
would be an unexpected loss. Well, we're not

01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:07.659
going to see it. Well, you know what I mean.

01:15:09.399 --> 01:15:13.199
But I think Encanto also has a really great score.

01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:17.119
It does tell the story very well. You don't need

01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:20.239
to be watching the visuals or hearing the Lin

01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:24.979
-Manuel Miranda's songs to not be able to follow

01:15:24.979 --> 01:15:28.479
along with it. But I think this is a Dune win.

01:15:29.819 --> 01:15:33.159
Okay. Well, that seems like we're pretty sold

01:15:33.159 --> 01:15:37.520
on that. Best film editing. So, film editing.

01:15:37.859 --> 01:15:42.020
We've got... Don't Look Up, Dune, King Richard,

01:15:42.300 --> 01:15:46.500
Power of the Dog, and Tick Tick Boom. I'll go.

01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:50.140
I'll start. Dune will probably win this one.

01:15:50.699 --> 01:15:53.420
I have seen that and I've seen Tick Tick Boom.

01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:56.460
I would actually be very happy if Tick Tick Boom

01:15:56.460 --> 01:15:59.890
won something. throughout the this year's oscars

01:15:59.890 --> 01:16:04.069
um so while i think dune will also probably walk

01:16:04.069 --> 01:16:06.829
out with this um and it would very much be deserved

01:16:06.829 --> 01:16:09.289
if they did it um i think tick tick boom should

01:16:09.289 --> 01:16:13.369
be a considerate a contender um but once again

01:16:13.369 --> 01:16:14.989
that's just because i've happened to have seen

01:16:14.989 --> 01:16:18.170
both of those films so tick tick boom with the

01:16:18.170 --> 01:16:20.350
little asterisk saying it's probably going to

01:16:20.350 --> 01:16:23.609
dune anyway i mean i'm going with dune even though

01:16:23.609 --> 01:16:25.939
i've seen power of the dog and i loved it I'm

01:16:25.939 --> 01:16:28.960
just going with Dune on this one. It's hearing

01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:31.420
you guys talk about it. Film editing makes sense

01:16:31.420 --> 01:16:35.359
for it because there wasn't bad film editing,

01:16:35.460 --> 01:16:37.899
I'm guessing, you know, like, I don't know. And

01:16:37.899 --> 01:16:40.180
the power of the dog at some points felt like

01:16:40.180 --> 01:16:42.840
it could run a little long. So maybe that's my

01:16:42.840 --> 01:16:45.979
argument because it just could have been edited

01:16:45.979 --> 01:16:49.159
down more. But even that, I don't know. I think

01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:51.439
it's Dune. Yeah, Tick, Tick, Boom has this great

01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:54.359
sequence in a swimming pool that like, it's almost

01:16:54.359 --> 01:16:56.920
like the emotional climax of the film and the

01:16:56.920 --> 01:17:01.579
way that that all. goes is your it your heart

01:17:01.579 --> 01:17:04.319
is pumping you're at the edge of your seat and

01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:06.500
you know when you think about it in a vacuum

01:17:06.500 --> 01:17:08.779
like what all of like what like what are the

01:17:08.779 --> 01:17:11.020
events that are brought us here it's actually

01:17:11.020 --> 01:17:13.939
like they're momentous to the main character

01:17:13.939 --> 01:17:16.479
but to everyone else it's just like you'll be

01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:18.619
okay it's fine it's not nearly it shouldn't be

01:17:18.619 --> 01:17:21.140
this stressful but the the way that the film

01:17:21.140 --> 01:17:26.840
shows all of it is just chef's kiss mark i'll

01:17:26.840 --> 01:17:28.920
have you go first uh because i'm not picking

01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:35.220
what has been said so far all right um well i

01:17:35.220 --> 01:17:37.420
was going well i was actually almost waiting

01:17:37.420 --> 01:17:40.479
on you because i'm still a little on the fence

01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:46.579
here because i am still i mean my first um my

01:17:46.579 --> 01:17:50.079
first gut reaction is to dune but i know there

01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:52.260
have because film editing is one of the more

01:17:52.260 --> 01:17:57.470
underrated categories to uh the non -experienced

01:17:57.470 --> 01:18:00.369
oscar viewer because it is it's up there with

01:18:00.369 --> 01:18:03.489
best director and helping out with best picture

01:18:03.489 --> 01:18:07.390
and stuff um so at the moment i'm thinking dune

01:18:07.390 --> 01:18:10.029
but there could be uh i honestly think there

01:18:10.029 --> 01:18:12.590
could be a good case made for tick tick boom

01:18:12.590 --> 01:18:18.170
and even king richard um yes i feel as well so

01:18:18.170 --> 01:18:21.489
at the moment i'm thinking dune but i don't be

01:18:21.489 --> 01:18:23.729
surprised if i change it last minute to like

01:18:23.729 --> 01:18:27.409
king richard or Tick, tick, boom. And Mark, I'm

01:18:27.409 --> 01:18:29.350
going to go with King Richard. And this is the

01:18:29.350 --> 01:18:31.729
first time we brought this up in our podcast.

01:18:31.789 --> 01:18:33.789
For those who haven't seen it, kind of sounds

01:18:33.789 --> 01:18:36.029
like a weird title, but it's about Richard Williams,

01:18:36.289 --> 01:18:38.770
the father of Serena and Venus Williams. And

01:18:38.770 --> 01:18:41.970
editing doesn't necessarily come to mind when

01:18:41.970 --> 01:18:44.310
you watch that movie because of, frankly, how

01:18:44.310 --> 01:18:46.149
kind of straightforward it is. There are some

01:18:46.149 --> 01:18:48.569
subtleties to it and like how they put together

01:18:48.569 --> 01:18:51.770
a sequence, but it's not exactly showy like Dune

01:18:51.770 --> 01:18:55.010
or like Tick, Tick, Boom. And it doesn't really

01:18:55.010 --> 01:18:57.029
drive as much tension as something as Power of

01:18:57.029 --> 01:19:01.329
the Dog. But what it does have is it won the

01:19:01.329 --> 01:19:04.869
Ace Eddie Award, which is like the editing Oscars.

01:19:04.869 --> 01:19:09.609
It won basically the comp for Best Picture there.

01:19:09.810 --> 01:19:13.189
And that was considered a huge momentum swing.

01:19:13.350 --> 01:19:16.270
So those in the editing guild voted for King

01:19:16.270 --> 01:19:19.520
Richard. And I think it's because... the editor

01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:21.779
who has kind of had like a little press tour

01:19:21.779 --> 01:19:25.060
going on has really been touted as one of the

01:19:25.060 --> 01:19:28.720
key factors in how this movie came out so well.

01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:31.600
She actually said some of the scenes that she

01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:34.239
had received were not usable and that they should

01:19:34.239 --> 01:19:37.600
be redone and they were and there's one in particular

01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:41.060
scene where Will Smith as Richard is talking

01:19:41.060 --> 01:19:43.100
to a young Serena Williams and how she's going

01:19:43.100 --> 01:19:47.140
to be the best in the world. Spoilers. That was

01:19:47.140 --> 01:19:50.699
going to take place at their home. She didn't

01:19:50.699 --> 01:19:53.340
like it. She's like, hey, we need to redo this.

01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:56.119
And it sounds like a director decision, but her

01:19:56.119 --> 01:19:59.100
having that much influence in that particular

01:19:59.100 --> 01:20:00.979
scene, having such a big payoff in the movie.

01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:04.000
I don't know. I think it shows that the editor

01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:06.460
can go beyond just being in the edit bay and

01:20:06.460 --> 01:20:08.119
actually calling the shots. So I'm going to go

01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:11.180
with King Richard here. I like that you are,

01:20:11.199 --> 01:20:14.260
we're saying spoilers and saying spoilers, Serena

01:20:14.260 --> 01:20:16.340
would become the greatest in the world. And I'm

01:20:16.340 --> 01:20:19.140
like, I think we, I don't even watch tennis.

01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:22.960
I think I know that. Yes. Yeah. For those who

01:20:22.960 --> 01:20:26.720
have not followed tennis at all in 20 years.

01:20:26.939 --> 01:20:31.039
Yeah. Right. My bad. Sorry. Well, so that'll

01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:33.220
do it for us that are not attending the Oscars

01:20:33.220 --> 01:20:36.119
because of our beloved makeup and hairstyling

01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:38.319
people. We stand in solidarity with you. I'm

01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:39.180
not showing up because of the Oscar, because

01:20:39.180 --> 01:20:42.039
of the omission of original score. That's why

01:20:42.039 --> 01:20:44.399
I'm not watching the Oscars. Well, Jill stands

01:20:44.399 --> 01:20:46.699
in solidarity, too. I have to watch it. It's

01:20:46.699 --> 01:20:49.539
on my birthday. Oh, we're watching, but we're

01:20:49.539 --> 01:20:53.819
just not showing up. Yeah. Take that, Academy.

01:20:53.819 --> 01:20:56.699
I have a bridal shower the next day, or the day

01:20:56.699 --> 01:21:00.359
of. So I ain't watching. Well, that'll do it

01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:02.000
for this episode of Game for a Movie. We'll see

01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:02.560
you next time.