Oh, that one was crispy. Mmm. Ooh, I like it.
Mmm. Ah. You know what that sound means? It's
another episode of Game for a Movie. I am your
host, Mike. I am joined by... Andre. Jill. Nice.
This time we got it better. You were a little
early on this time, you know? Yep. No, it makes
sense. And we've talked about the order a little
more, so this time I felt a little more comfortable.
Yeah, that's the power of... You didn't listen
to our episode last week. The start of it was
great. Let me tell you. True comedy. Yeah. So
this is one of our movie banter episodes. So
there is no bad movie unless we watched one on
our own. But it's still great talk about movies
with friends. We're going to jump into what we
are drinking, of course. Yes. Andre, what are
you drinking over there? hands for the second
episode in a row a cider. It's a Cider Geist
from Rheingeist Brewing. It is the snug cider.
It's hard cider with spices. It's got a little
five spice blend in there. I gotta say, it's
pleasant, you know? It is really nice. A nice
little fall cider. See, I love Rheingeist. Easy
to drink. I am a big fan of Rheingeist. Yeah,
we're Rheingeist fans here too. Exactly. Jill,
what are you drinking over there? I'm drinking
water. Yeah. Stay hydrated. High quality H2O.
I have got Broken Symmetry Nano Nimbus. It's
a hazy pale ale. I filled in. Nano Nimbus, I
like that. Yeah, I filled in for hosting trivia
right before Thanksgiving there. It's like an
hour away from my house, but it was totally worth
it. That place was awesome. It's converted train
station. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, so it's a small
brewery. Don't get me wrong. It's very small.
But it's cool because it's right along the train
tracks, and you can tell it was an old station
depot kind of thing. What's the brewery called
again? Broken Symmetry. Broken Symmetry, okay.
It is in Bethel. Yeah, it is in Bethel. Literally,
it's small and everything like that, but there's
a lot of cool things to do in Bethel. It's well
worth the trip. And so I just picked up two four
-packs for Thanksgiving, and it's delicious.
Yeah, nice. I also have a 9 % honey Saison from
them as well. Ooh. Yeah. Both are phenomenal.
Like, top ranks. So. Yeah, we checked them out
on our winter break, Joe. You know? Yeah. I like
that. Highly recommend it. Also, Bethel is an
important character in Shin Megami Tensei V.
Oh, is this a video game podcast? Can we hear
what Tensei V? He said it was Bethel, and I'm
like, oh, I've been hearing that name a lot the
last three weeks. Very, very, very fun JRPG.
I'm loving it. I'm pretty sure you said some
of that in English. I'm not 100 % sure. No, there
was one word in English, and it was the number
five. Oh, five. Got it. Yeah, okay. I follow
five, yes. If you know, you know. We'll just
leave it at that. Yeah, if you like Persona,
this game's also made by the same studio. You
mean Persona 5? Yeah. Yeah. Got it. Nailed it.
You got it. There you go. Oh, my God. We're putting
the game in game for a movie, for sure. Hell
yeah. Hell yeah. I like that. I like having a
little game corner. Oh, yeah. I don't know. It's
fun. Like, we talk movies, and that's fine and
everything like that, but we can talk video games,
TV shows, anything, really. That's cool. Yeah.
Yeah. You should get a... Hades on the Switch.
Since I know you have one. Yes. Okay. It's very
fun. I'm enjoying it. You're playing to that
now. That was my favorite game a couple years
ago. It was so good. Hades is great. $20. We
also need to get a Mario Party game going. Yes.
I just bought Mario Party. I also just bought...
All -Stars? Yeah, All -Stars. Yeah. Okay. Right?
Superstars, All -Stars? Yeah, Mario Party, All
-Stars. The new Mario Party, that's a bunch of
old Mario Party maps. Yes. It's great. When you
say it like that, it doesn't sound as good. No,
but that's what they needed to do, man. I just
wanted to play some fucking Mario Party like
I was on the N64. I agree. It's great. Yeah.
No, we will definitely have you guys over, and
we will have a good time. I am in. I also got
Metroid Dread, which I've been playing through.
Oh, how far are you? Not far. I know. I am not
far, and I knew that would get you excited. Oh,
I love that game so much. That's my favorite
game so far this year. That's your goatee? That's
going to be my goatee, yeah. We have four weeks
left of the year. It's the game of the year at
this point for me. It's so good. I'm trying to
think what else came out this year, because now
I'm trying to figure out what my best of the
year is. It's been fun, don't get me wrong. So
I'm not far in it. But yeah, that is definitely,
it's been fun so far. come out this year, but
I played it this year. Okay. And that's Xenoblade
Chronicles. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard
of that. Yeah, yeah. I'm now looking up video
games from... So I disappeared off of our chat.
Yes, right. We lost your beautiful face. I mean,
like, the thing is that everything got delayed
this year, so there really hasn't been that many
huge releases, right? Yeah. So, I mean, but I'm
gonna look anyway just to see what I've played
and what I think is the best. Ooh, I did really
enjoy the Link's Awakening they re -released.
Oh, yeah. That was fun. It's also the style that
is so cute. Yeah, exactly. And I love that. I
think that's why I was a big fan of it this year.
Damn. I really haven't played a lot of these
this year. Shit. Oh, Hitman 3. I've played very
long games. That was in January. That was super
early, too. I need to finish Hitman. I'm halfway
through 2. That trilogy is just so wacky. Yeah,
right. Hitman. Hitman's always fun. Like, it's
always a good time. You know what you're getting
from the very beginning when you buy it, but
it's still always fun. All right. Enough video
game talk. We're going to hide. We're going to
head into movie talk and maybe TV shows as well.
Maybe. Maybe. Movies. Movies first. Andre. Andre's,
like, gunning to go, so I think we've got to
let him. I'm trying to force all these memories
to come from this experience because I've already
forgotten a lot about the time I've watched Eternals.
Eternals. What was it? That was a month ago?
Three weeks ago? Well, it came out a month ago.
We watched it the weekend after it came out,
right? Yeah. We did not pay full price. We did
not see it on IMAX like we did Dune. No, we did
not. Right. Oh, my God. I need to talk about
Dune. No, I think you're going to talk about
Eternals. I know. I know. I know. Oh, shit. You're
talking about Eternals. Oh, God. You know what
this means? This is why we needed to have a November
episode now, because it's backlogged. It is.
No, definitely. We've been backlogged up a little
bit. But whatever. It's Marvel. Like, we've had
a bunch of Marvel episodes. We're all Marvel
fans, I guess, at this point. Yeah. So, whatever.
Eternals. It's a movie. It came out. We watched
it. It was fine. I don't know. Well, that's what
I say about Marvel movies, too, when you say
that we're all Marvel fans and everything like
that. It's so weird to me about this one because
I've said, I will say it again, if this wasn't
part of the MCU, I don't think I would see it.
Yeah. Yeah. I'd agree. Like, that's the thing,
is that it, I mean, I'm not familiar with the
Eternals comics at all, so I'm absolutely just
like, I was just watching this mostly for the
Marvel. Cinematic Universe Connection and Kumail
Nanjiani. Those are the two reasons I was coming
to watch it. Kumail's the only part of the casting
that even got me excited because I am not a huge
Angelina Jolie fan. She's good. She's actually
pretty good in this. Yeah, okay. If anything,
she's underutilized. Oh. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I
also think that this would have been better as
a miniseries rather than a movie. I would have
liked to have watched a prestige. television
season of this instead of an hour and a half.
No, it's two. It's over two and a half hours.
It's a very long movie. Because they have to
introduce, what, ten characters? Eleven. Eleven?
If you're counting Kit Harington. And he's underutilized,
too. He just shows up at the beginning just to
say, wow, this is crazy. Whoa. And then also,
why didn't you guys help out with Thanos? It's
only plot importance. Yeah, no, definitely. Jill
alluded to it. This movie has a huge problem,
I think, in that I just did not care about any
individual character that much, right? This is
an ensemble movie without any of the preamble,
if that makes sense, right? There's no... it's
just asking you to care about this huge team
when you don't know anything about them and then
by their very nature they're kind of they're
the eternals they're immortal beings that are
above humans right so yeah they're gods they're
god they're like demigods or whatever and so
by just by the very nature kind of makes some
of them kind of plain right you know like uh
i would say cersei the portion of the main character
she's like i i got i had nothing to grab onto
her character right her main arc is that, oh,
she used to be, she used to have this super long
relationship with Icarus, played by Richard Madden,
and oh, now that that's over, she's decided that
she's gone full native, and she's living amongst
humans now. She's now dating Kit Harington's
character, who's a normal human guy. Wait, Kit
Harington's a normal human guy in this? Yeah,
yeah, he's a normal human guy. Okay. He's on
the turn. Totally vanilla. He's just another
wanderer. Yeah, that's it. You know? Okay, that
feels like a waste of an actor there. There's
stuff with him. All I will say is that this won't
be the last movie that Aaron did. That's all
I will leave with that. When I see it on Disney
Plus in January. It's like when Hawkeye showed
up in Thor. Where it's like, oh hey, that's a
person. Alright, when I see it on Disney Plus
in January, then I'll have a better idea. busy
plus to watch this right if you haven't seen
it yet like yeah especially with january movies
like it's not we're not waiting on the next big
thing to be in january they all have time yes
exactly um i mean visually i think this movie
looks really cool there's a lot of really cool
shots really pretty very pretty movie um especially
with like the kind of this they do a really good
job of selling you on the scale of the celestials
the celestials are these giant huge beings that
basically oversee the development of the universe.
Basically, they created the Eternals. Those are
the beings that are like, hey, I think the main
celestial is Arishem, right? Arishem, yeah. Arishem
is the one that basically creates the titular
Eternals that we're following and sends them
to Earth. And they do a really good job of showing
the scenes that he's in. They really do a good
job of selling them on just how huge and how
mighty these beings are. It's cool. Let's see.
In terms of action scenes, I don't know, man.
It's just a lot of CGI. So what the Eternals
are fighting are this race of alien mutation
creatures called the Deviants, right? Deviants,
yeah. You've seen it in the trailers. They can
only fight Deviants. They can only interfere
when Deviants are involved. So a lot of these
fights are just them against this CGI weird dinosaur
tentacle monster thing. There's really not much
to sell it on. I will say that, what was her
name? Is it Makari? She's the one that was...
The fast one? Makari, yeah. I liked how they
displayed her super speed, as it were, right?
I did like the shots that she was running fast
in. It was cool, and I kind of... If then whatever
Flashpoint, whatever that next Flash movie is,
if a lot of the running scenes look like Makari
running around, I'm down for that. It looked
cool, it felt kinetic, it felt frenetic. And
you saw it in real time. They didn't do slow
-mo with her. I generally appreciate it. Yeah,
that distinguisher from Flash and what's it called?
Quicksilver? Yeah, okay. Yeah, and Quicksilver.
If I can add, I think a lot of the issues with
the film, besides the fact that they're trying
to introduce technically 11 new characters, is
the scope of it. Because this is a movie that
spans thousands of years, millennia. of the film,
and hopefully this is not a spoiler, is that,
you know, it's like, they've been here, they've
been living among us, and a good driving force
of the film is their connection to Earth. Okay.
And then the, you know, the problem with the
fact that, like, oh, they couldn't interfere
with Thanos, and then the ramifications of all
of that. Right. Where the movie really fails
is that they just don't give them the backstories
needed to be like, yeah, I really get that you
care about humanity. Right. Right. I mean, like
you get you get some little blips some of them
have it but not all but not all of them right
i see what you did there blips yes oh geez the
blip uh well i mean yeah so like there's some
characters that have these sort of hang -ups
like i think druid had kind of an interesting
sort of dynamic where so all these eternals have
different powers druids his power is to mind
control happens right and so they show in the
beginning of the scene he uses that as a placating
tool where like you know humans would like you
know they try to be aggressive against them and
he basically like you know forces them to put
down their weapons and calm down or whatever
and they kind of have there's another flat yes
like half this movie is just flashback scenes
and there's a flashback in like when the they
do a flashback scene this is fairly early on
the movie so not a huge spoiler they do a flashback
scene to um when i believe it is that the mayans
are getting invaded by i think so okay and basically
like they're they're watching all this carnage
and drew it just basically says I can combine
control of all these people and make them stop
at a whim. Like, I can stop all this bloodshed.
And Salma Hayek's character, Ajak, who's the
leader of these Eternals, basically says, nope,
we can't interfere, can't do it. And that's basically
his big split. Like, he's like, nope, if I could
just have everybody follow my will, everything
would be fine. Yeah, there's kind of a conflict.
And so basically he just kind of, that's when
he leaves the group and he fucks off to nowhere.
And so I guess the structure of this movie is
that... There's an exciting incident that basically
is like, oh, man, all of the Eternals have been
scattered in modern day. Like they're still among
us, but they're not hanging out together as a
group anymore. So there's an exciting incident
that I won't say, but basically it's like we
got to get the band back together. So wait, it's
the Blues Brothers? Yeah, it's a road movie.
Oh, my God. the group and it's just kind of i
don't know kind of jumps around a bunch yeah
i haven't seen any of the director chloe zhao's
other films right so like i do i i think that
this movie if you've if anyone is if you've if
you're listening and you've paid attention to
ratings this movie is one of the is the lowest
rated marvel film now okay and i definitely think
some of that is oh chloe zhao this Oscar -winning
director was going to make gold out of this.
Right. The expectations for her were so much
higher than some other directors. This is not
nearly the worst Marvel movie. This is not the
worst Marvel movie by a long shot. Where would
you say it is on your list? I'm not asking for,
like, a blow -by -blow. Yeah, I know, I know.
Would it be bottom five, middle? It's not bottom
five. I would say it's bottom third, though,
for me. Okay. It's probably somewhere below Doctor
Strange. Okay. Slightly below middle of the road
for me. I would say it's higher. So, well, I
think Doctor Strange is Not is a lesser film.
So for me, it's a little more towards the middle.
I think it's better than Ant -Man and the Wasp.
Okay. Better than Ant -Man and the Wasp, but
I feel like Ant -Man and the Wasp, and this is,
I guess, going to the problem, Ant -Man and the
Wasp is going to be an easier sell for me to
re -watch, because it's just a, I can just put
that on, and it's not funny. It's a smaller story,
and it's not going to bore me, you know what
I mean? Like, I will just forget about it, but,
like, I was tired after watching this movie,
you know what I mean? Yeah, right. Yeah, this
movie is not, this movie is not funny. This movie
is not lighthearted. every Marvel movie has to
be funny. It does definitely feel like they were,
like, saying, like, see, this is different. They
don't have the Marvel quips like all the other
Marvel movies do or whatever. And I'm like, okay,
well, now it's just kind of boring, man, you
know? Like, Tango is the one that has the, like,
he's the only one that has any sort of life in
this movie, I feel like. Yeah, and then there
are a couple scenes when it all kind of comes
together for a few seconds. Yeah. And it's like,
wow, I really, I like this family aspect. I like
the relationships that are here, the power. dynamic
possibly a power dynamic struggle maybe but then
the scene changes or the plot needs to get going
because we're an hour and a half in and the band's
still not together right and we don't really
know what they're why are they getting together
and there's a lot of things that get set up and
then dropped or then appear out of nowhere and
then have little to no ramifications and i'll
stand by it this should have been a 10 part miniseries
Eight episodes for all of the characters, some
of them having their own, others being doubled
up, and then an intro episode to set everything,
and then a finale. Yeah, I mean, it sounds ironic
that I'm complaining about how long this movie
was, but I definitely agree with Jill. They just
could have used more time, but also chugged up,
you know? asking for you to sit down and for
this for two and a half hours and coming out
with not really caring about these characters
something went wrong here is all i'm gonna say
right i don't know it sounds like i'm really
harsh in this movie it was perfectly fine i don't
feel like i got ripped off or mugged for watching
this movie no and and dare i say when they make
eternals 2 i'll probably still go see that in
theaters i don't think they're going to i don't
think they're gonna make in Eternals 2. I have
a theory about how they're going to be involved
into the Marvel Universe. Yeah. And I don't think
they're going to give them another standalone
film. I think they're going to be woven into
other character stories. Like, I could see them
just kind of showing up here and there in other...
Yeah. Yeah, right. And we can't really talk about
specifics of that without super spoiling it.
Right. Yeah, sorry about that. No, it's fine.
So, I do have a question because this was a hot
-button topic in the community. So they showed
a sex scene in it, right? Yes. There is a sex
scene. Did it throw you off in a Marvel movie
to see a sex scene? No. I didn't think it would.
It's a bog standard PG -13 sex scene. You know
what I mean? The curtains might as well have
blown by. The curtains were blowing in the wind
in the background or whatever. It was so... We
saw some gyrating bodies. Yeah. Shirtless gyrating
bodies for 15 seconds. I don't know. Like, no,
it was, that is not like, and it wasn't like,
okay. So it wasn't raunchy enough to be like,
whoa, like they really went for it. And it wasn't
meaningful enough to be like, wow, this is a
really necessary. Yeah, right. Exactly. It's
like, okay. Yeah. I was wondering, I didn't think.
Well, that's what I was curious about. Yeah,
I didn't think it would matter much. Makes me
laugh that they bring up, like, oh, it's the
first sex scene in a Marvel movie. Iron Man slept
with the first, like, reporter. Yeah. I would
say Iron Man 1 was way more lewd than any of
the Eternals. Yeah, okay. Even more so. Yeah,
okay. This is an artistically poetic sex scene.
Yes. Okay. All right. So, what would you guys
give ratings for it? I followed the second one
a little more than the first one. Yeah. It makes
sense when you see the film. Okay. It does. January
can't get here fast enough, and by fast enough,
it can take its time. Yeah. All right. Jill,
you have something for us? I do. I'm actually,
before I get into it, I'm just searching a movie
I was originally going to talk about, and then
I found something way better. Okay. She's going
to talk about June now. Yes. Okay. Okay. stupid
and saccharine do you watch the hallmark ones
or just rom -coms well rom -coms i can't watch
hallmark because we do not have cable ah okay
right okay that's fair that's actually fair do
i get like a recently watched thing watch list
watch anywhere do you need help over here a librarian
who abruptly loses her job and moves back to
a small hometown that she's actually not from
because that's where her brother now lives and
along the way she meets a handsome millionaire
but doesn't realize he's a millionaire who's
trying to resuscitate a hotel but the locals
are all against the change because they think
it's going to sell out the town. And like I said,
it's called A Winter Romance. And the reason
originally I was going to talk about it was because
it doesn't take place in winter. It takes place
in fucking November. So it is a lie. And Chad
Michael Murray's in it. Chad Michael Murray's
in it? Wait, he's doing stuff? Yeah, and he looks
good. The dude hasn't aged. He's aging like a
fine wine. He looks fantastic. He's by far the
best thing in this movie. And it's a shame. There's
not enough scenes of him shirtless riding a horse.
Yeah, okay. This movie was hot garbage and not
in a fun way, and it infuriates me, and this
stupid librarian can go fuck herself instead.
Stupid librarian can go fuck herself. Well, because
at first, the aside here is that it starts off
with her being like, I love doing research and
helping people uncover history, and I'm like,
so why aren't you a fucking archivist? Why are
you working at a public library? And then she
loses her job, like I said. And I'm like, well,
boo -hoo. You shouldn't have been working in
a fucking public library. That's why, you know,
that's why your job is lost. It's a public library.
They have no funding. And then stuff happens.
So originally I was going to talk about that.
And then on Friday. Wait, I got to bring it up.
Okay, so he was on like a ton of episodes of
Riverdale. Oh, Chad Michael Murray? Yeah. after
season one. So he was on Riverdale, Sun Records,
Agent Carter? Didn't watch that. He was on 14
episodes of Agent Carter. That's like apparently
like the best Marvel TV live action series. That's
what I've heard too. Okay, sorry. Keep going.
No worries. Oh, and Andre's clip when he glanced
over when I was watching this movie, he's like,
does it sound horrible for me to say that she
looks like a porn star? Like it just looks like
a porn parody of a librarian. You know what I'm
saying? And maybe that says a lot more about
me than it does about the film, but that's just
what I got. It probably does. She was not appropriately
dressed for her job. Right, that's what I mean.
Like, what? And I don't mean, like, skin -tight
clothing. It's just, like, she was very dressed
up. And I'm like, you're a public librarian.
You don't need to be wearing skirt, heels, and
a nice top. Okay. Anyway, we're not talking about
this movie. Because on Friday, I moved on to
Netflix because they released their holiday collection.
Okay. And I came across... There is no bigger
scam than the holiday rom -coms of the world.
There's just no bigger scam. They just pump them
out for cheap just to make money. Oh, good. I
love it. It's like a conveyor belt of films.
And we're consuming it. I'm consuming it. Yeah,
right. They found enough chills in the world.
So, Love Hard came out in 2021. And the synopsis
reads... Oh, no. Oh, no. I know both of those.
Yeah, exactly. I know Jimmy Ray Yang, not from
Silicon Valley, but from Crazy Rich Asians. Yep.
And he's hilarious in that. So when I saw that
he was in here, I was like, oh, okay, this is
going to be at least funny. He's also in Space
Force, which I... Yes, he's in Space Force. He's
also in Fantasy Island. Oh, that's right, he
was in Fantasy Island. And I saw that for the
pod. Yep. And it gets so much worse at the end.
Hey, you know what? He's also in the... as Enthusiastic
Zebra. Oh, nice. I appreciate that. That's Enthusiastic
Zebra. What I was getting at is that this was
going to be bare minimum funny. It's probably
not going to be good, but it's going to at least
probably have some good jokes because I feel
like he has a good read on comedy. Right. And
his career is not that desperate. Not yet. Not
yet. Hopefully not. He's actually really, really
good in this. So as I said in the summary, she's...
Not lucky in love, and she's chronicling all
her misadventures with a blog, or it might not
be a blog, like a news website that she is a
writer for. Okay. The whole reason this gets
started is that she's talking about how she's
so unlucky in love, but she apparently has ridiculously
high standards. She's only looking for the 1
% men who look like gods, who have perfect personalities,
but then when she actually meets them, they're
bland, stupid, or just full of themselves. Yeah.
So her friend takes her phone and widens her
searching radius from five miles. Well, and like
L .A. too, though. They have so many people.
Like, you can go 25 and still be fine. Yeah.
So, we go from five miles of L .A. to the whole
country. And she connects, matches with a dude
named Josh in Lake Placid, New York. And they
hit it off. And they... through conversations,
through texting, then through voice call. And
her friend's like, oh my God, he sounds like
too good to be true. You need to see a real picture
of him. And the only way that you can really
know it's true is if he's holding up a newspaper
with today's date. And she's like, oh no, it's
fine. He's totally real. He sounds so cool. So
she's like, hey, can you just like, you know,
send me a picture? So he does. And she's like,
see, he's a real guy. He's a real boy. Exactly.
So after some flirtation, he kind of says in
passing, oh. with me for Christmas. So she decides
to bet it all on love and flies to Lake Placid,
New York to be with him for Christmas. And she
gets there and, you know, come on, you know,
everybody can know where this is going. So she
gets there, finds his house somehow and meets
his family. And his family is actually like super
fun. His mom is played by Rebecca Stab, Barb.
His dad, Bob, is played by James Saito. And then
grandma is played by Althea Kaye. And they're
just so excited to see her. And she's a gorgeous
woman. Their son really hit it out of the park.
and they're like oh let's go get josh josh josh
you have to get a date if someone's here and
you know slow the door opening you get the full
body rising shot and it's jimmy o yang so you
know the love boat has come to an abrupt halt
here and record scratch moment yeah exactly sees
the guy whose pictures he had been using for
himself like that's a real person that lives
in the town of late placid so she's like well
i'm gonna get him to fall in love with me so
it becomes the you know trying to win a guy over
while also developing this friendship slash relationship
with the guy originally catfished her right and
it's also low -key a musical what yeah it's a
musical there are three musical numbers maybe
even four um is that the minimum number is it
like or is it like a song per well it depends
by like how long the thing is that's what i mean
like is there like a song like every what song
every 15 minutes or song every this is an hour
and 44 minutes and i think there are four songs
so this is almost a musical but the fact that
not once twice or even thrice characters break
into song it's a musical in my opinion so we
get a rendition of um i would do anything for
love by meatloaf That was great. We get a weird
acapella moment with like a Christmas song. And
then maybe it's cold outside. But it's like the
gender role swapped version. Because all these
characters actually can sing. Harry Shum Jr.
from Glee plays Josh's older brother. and he
can sing and dance so naturally they were like
oh well let's take advantage of this triple threat
right here um i think there are only three songs
but regardless it's it's fun is the movie stupid
at points yes absolutely because she In trying
to win over the guy that she thought she was
talking to, she lies about who she is. You know,
she says that she's an outdoorsy type. She says
that she likes to eat meat, even though she's
a vegetarian, that she's experienced rock climbing.
So she's effectively doing the exact same thing
that Jimmy O. Yang did. But at least in his case,
he... He never lied about who he was as a person.
He lied about who he was visually. What he looked
like, yeah. Because Asian Americans are less
likely to find matches on dating sites. So, all
of that. And, yeah, no, this was actually really,
really fun. It was not, like, I thought it was
going to be a little more dumb, and I'm really
happy it was smarter than that. Yeah. And there's
just a lot of homages to rom -com movies. So,
Love Hard is a reference to the fact that...
Nina's character, Natalie, her favorite Christmas
movie is Die Hard. Jimmy O. Yang's character's
favorite movie is Love Actually. Get it? Love.
Oh, God. There's a lot of, so there's a lot of
homages to Love Actually. They play a song that
plays in 500 Days of Summer. Okay. And I'm like,
that's not a mistake. They did that on purpose.
Yeah. I liked it. As someone who enjoys rom -coms,
I found all of those little notes to it pretty
cute and funny. So, yeah, you know, for my first
of the Netflix winter collection, this was quite
good. And Jimmy Lee is hilarious and should be
in more things. I thought he did a really great
job as the main character and give him more things
to be the lead in. Yes. He was actually not...
He was not the worst part of Fantasy Island,
so I'm with you on that. Good. Also, his character's
a candle maker, and I love candles. So it's like
the same thing with Jack Black's character in
The Holiday when he's a soundtrack composer.
It's like, yes, this is a profession I find oddly
sexy. Please go on. Well, then we talk about
his candle sense, and I'm like, oh, I'd buy a
candle that smelled like some of these things.
Right, so his whole thing is he's trying to get...
manly scents on the market, right? Yeah, it's
50 % of the candle market's untapped because
there's no scents for men. Like wolf musk or
like falcon tears or something like that. No,
one of them's like lawn mowing. Oh, okay, nice.
All right, lawn mowing, like fresh cut grass.
Like, okay, that's pretty good. Yeah, I don't
know. And then, like I said, the family is just
really, really fun too because they're so excited
that he is dating somebody and then, like, just
how extra they are. with everything. So if you
enjoy a nice romantic comedy and you can turn
your brain off for a little bit, check out Love
Heart. How many movies are in the Netflix holiday
collection? I don't know. It's kind of a lot.
I'm a little scared. I know. And also you need
to give a rating on this one. Yes, you do. I
will give it three out of five Kiwi allergies.
Okay. Okay. Wow, I didn't know you could have
more than one Kiwi allergy. Yeah, right. I mean,
not a Kiwi allergy, but somebody. Lake Placid
from anywhere you've been in upstate New York,
Andre? Have you ever been there? I have not been
to Lake Placid, no. I've been to Lake Placid.
It's not a finger lake, right? No, it's not.
No, it's not. What is the fame? How does Lake
Placid get to be like... It's where the Olympics
was. Yeah. So there was Winter Olympics there
in 92? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's pretty
far from anywhere I've been, you know. So I was
in Rochester, and that's probably a solid four
-hour drive. Let's look. Yeah, there's a lot
of movies in Netflix's holiday collection. I'm
definitely not going to get to watch them all,
but I think I need to check out Father Christmas
is Back. Yes, yes, you do. Or Five Hour Drive,
literally. John Cleese is in this. I need to
see this. Lake Placid, when we were there, there
was the outdoor games happening. It always happens
there. And so we watched a lot of people with
chainsaws and logs and everything like that.
It was kind of fun, actually. Hmm. Yeah. the
axe one you know like the split in the log and
that was cool actually it was a really cool time
I just found another holiday film that's got
Rob Lowe and Kirsten Davis in it that's also
going on the watch list Holiday in the Wild okay
I wish you best of luck in all your endeavors
I know and wish Andre luck too because I'm going
to make him watch some of these with me oh god
poor bastard Christmas with his family and I'm
like, what movie should I make them watch? They
already made them watch The Muppets Christmas
Carol last year, which is a great film and everybody
should watch it. So I'm like, should I make them
watch The Holiday? Like, it's a seasonal requisite
for me. Yeah, that's a good one. Maybe I make
them watch Holiday in the Wild. Who knows? Good
luck. I wish you the best of luck for both of
you. Thank you. I'm scared. Have you never seen
it? No. We might need to watch that then. Okay.
All right, Mike. I'm just, no, I'm just doing
my cue cards of Love Actually. Well, Bill Nighy
is the best part of Love Actually and all of
his amazing blouses. Yeah, you're right about
that probably. Yeah. So I'm going to talk about
Last Night in Soho. Both of you have not seen
it, so I'm going to go spoiler free. But the
story is essentially a fashion student. She's
on the poorer side of things. Her mother has
passed away, but she still sees her mom because
she has this supernatural connection somehow,
someway. She gets into this fashion university
in London and basically moves there to live on
her own and go to this fashion school and become
this famous fashion designer and everything like
that. And we know she's obsessed with the 60s.
That is what we know about her. So all of her
designs are very 60s inspired and everything
like that. She moves out on her own and she starts
seeing this girl from the 60s, Sandy, who's played
by Anya Taylor -Joy. And Anya Taylor -Joy's character,
Sandy, is a singer who's trying to get famous
and falls in with the character Jack, who's played
by Matt Smith. uh yes well so the first thing
i say because they're first seen together i said
to claire i go i want another season of matt
smith as dr who with anya taylor joy as the companion
because i think that would be a blast oh yes
madman in a box yeah i literally the chemistry
between the two of them right immediately is
just off the chain like it is it is insane um
We also have Diana Rigg as Miss Collins. We have...
That's basically it for the famous people you
know. But our main character, whose name is Eloise,
is played by Thomasin McKenzie. And it bugged
me for the entire movie because I could not figure
out where we knew her from. We knew her from
something, but we don't know what from. She was
the girl in Jojo Rabbit. Jojo Rabbit, yep. Yes.
And it was bugging the hell out of us because
we could not figure it out for the life of us.
But yeah, basically she starts seeing Sandy in
these situations where it gets worse and worse
and worse. At first it's just like this 60s dreamland
and then it starts getting worse and worse and
worse and Eloise can't separate her real life
from the fake life and everything like that and
it starts messing with her whole life. To the
point where, like, she gets mad at the wrong
people, she gets in trouble, and just a lot of
little things like that. It is an Edgar Wright
movie. This is his first with a female protagonist,
right? I believe so, yes. Yeah, that makes sense,
yeah. Because he did, like, the Coronado, he
did Baby Driver, everything like that. Soundtrack
is... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The soundtrack,
as you can expect, is excellent. He does things
that... Basically, at the end of this movie,
I did not know how I felt about it, but I knew
I wanted to see more Edgar Wright films. Okay.
There's one scene in particular that is just
phenomenal. And... I really would love to see
a behind -the -scenes where they did this. Basically,
when he sees... When she sees Jack and Sandy
in the 60s, they start dancing. And they do this
dance and it's all one shot and everything. Sandy
goes off screen. All of a sudden, Eloise is in
the scene dancing with him. And then it's Sandy
again. And it's literally like dance, rotate,
switch, everything like that. It's done in one
take. And it feels very much like it was just
the two actresses were just in swap, in swap.
You know, that kind of stuff. It is an excellent
scene. It is honestly amazing. One of my favorite
scenes of the year. They definitely botched the
ending, which I'm not going to talk about. They
didn't stick the landing for it. But the first
two -thirds of the movie were excellent. It is
very weird. It is very strange. And it's good.
But at the same time, I do not know how I feel
about it at the end because of the ending. Interesting.
Yeah. bummer yeah right um i still recommend
it at least have a good time for the first two
thirds um because it is crazy and fun and like
a little bit scary it's marked as a horror movie
for certain parts of it oh really yeah i see
it like i do see it because it's creepy um there
are some characters with like melting faces and
stuff like that it's yeah it's creepy um i really
can't say much more without Spoiling some of
it. Well, the reason... So I can say, like, the
reason she moved out on her own is because her
roommate at university for the first part is
kind of a bitch. So she basically just decided
she's going to move on her own because she can't
spend a semester with this lady. Gotcha. Yeah.
But, yeah. So I would say... 3 .25 dresses out
of 5. Okay. Wow, 3 .25. Yeah. Except pie. Yes,
almost pie. We passed pie on that. Yeah, we did
pass pie. Yeah, passed pie. Yeah, so that's last
night in Soho. Yeah. Do we need to watch it before
it gets out of theaters? No, I don't think you
need to watch it in theaters. No, I don't think
you need to watch it in theaters. I think it
was very good and I would recommend it in theaters,
but at the same time, I think you could very
easily watch this film and not be thrown off
that it's not in theaters. It doesn't change
that much. We managed to get our Edgar Wright
fix in over Thanksgiving break when she showed
my family Hot Fuzz. That was fun. Oh yeah, nice.
At first, Andre, I think you were like, I don't
know. And I'm like, no, I think your family's
going to really, really like it. Andre hadn't
seen it before. I hadn't seen it either, yeah.
Hot Fuzz is so weird to me. They were laughing.
I had no idea that Timothy Dalton was in that
movie. That threw me for a loop. Yeah. Hot Fuzz
is interesting because it's one of my favorites
of the Cornetto trilogy, but the beginning of
it is just so long. How so? Well, so they marketed
it different. They marketed it as it was this
cop action movie, that kind of stuff. And, you
know, people are disappearing and stuff, but
it's not, it's like cop work, not cop action.
Right, right, right. Okay, got it. I'm looking
for the swan. Yeah, exactly. And that kind of
stuff. And so, like, when I first watched it,
it was just, okay, okay. I was also much younger,
so all I wanted was bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
You wanted was the violence. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which, I mean, you know, hey, that final climax
scene, that was... It was well worth it. sequence
goes on for too long. He's getting more and more
over the top. i don't want to spoil it we got
no one seen it and then it kind of crescendos
i think you can spoil that one this was the last
45 minutes yeah right my favorite edgar wright
ism is even if that's even the right word was
the fucking all the montages whenever he put
someone away it's like what it get like he yeah
yeah like the extreme fast cuts when he was like
putting away all like all the underage drinkers
at the pub i was like wow yeah right no that's
awesome again that's why i say especially after
this movie like edgar wright makes a movie i'm
in That's kind of where I am. I don't need to
know much about the plot. If you say Edgar Wright
made it, I'm in. Yeah. We're going to take a
quick break because we do need to get some commercial
breaks in. And then we will come back with Cash
or Trash, which we have not done in a while.
We have not. No, we have not. So we will do Cash
or Trash after the break. We are back with Hashtag
cash or trash, where we tell you about some of
the things we've been watching, and if you should
watch it, cash, or if you should not watch it,
trash. Andre, you're going to get us started,
buddy. All right. So Jill and I are about, what,
we're four episodes? We're about to start episode
four. We're starting episode four of Artane,
the Netflix animated series. There you go. And
it is... At the top, this is definitely cash.
This is some quality shit. Cool. So, basically,
have you heard anything about it at all, Mike?
It's League of Legends or something? Yeah, so
it takes place in the League of Legends universe.
It's called Runeterra, I guess. But... You'll
notice that, like, you don't need to know anything
about League at all. I don't play League of Legends.
Jill definitely doesn't play League of Legends.
We did, years ago. Right, but, like, we are not
League fans, so we don't have much prior investment
in these characters or anything like that. And
we're definitely invested in the story so far.
I think it's definitely done on purpose that
the show is just called Arcane. Like, if you
go on Netflix, it just says Arcane. It's not
League of Legends Presents Arcane. Yeah, it's...
League of Legends. It's a subtitle. Okay, it's
a subtitle. Okay, got it. That's the first time
I've seen that. I was looking at the Wikipedia
page. You're right. I thought it was just Arcade.
And they definitely lead with just that marketing.
My only known part of this media in any way,
shape, or form is it has a very generic Imagine
Dragons song attached to it. Yes, it does. And
I would say that's the worst part of the show.
Yeah, right. It's the title song. I hate it because
I used to love Imagine Dragons. Now it's gotten
so generic. Now they're Nickelback. Yeah. Every
song sounds... the same oh my god yes hey hey
the skip intro button's there for a reason and
uh yeah so i guess yeah i should probably give
you a quick like synopsis of it basically it
follows two sisters uh vi and powder um and they
kind of are the the there it takes place mostly
in this city called piltover it's like a fantasy
like high tech uh high tech city where it's clear
there's a clear class utilization of the haves
and the have -nots the top side or it's like
where like the utopian society is where it's
a high -ranking council that runs everything
they all are focused on technology this is a
world where magic exists we're still learning
about it but The citizens of Piltover don't have
magical powers. It's the idea that you have to
be born with magic, but they have technology
instead. So they're all kind of like a self -made
society, as it were. And Vi and Powder kind of
live in the slums, and they're kind of roughing
it in the slums. And it's kind of following their
journey, trying to, I don't know, make their
way through this kind of politically charged...
little, little fantasy. Making my way downtown,
walking fast, faces past some homebound. Yeah,
you know, blowing up stuff, and yeah, it's great.
It kind of serves as an origin, so both Vi and
Powder are characters in League of Legends, so
this kind of serves as their origin story, I
guess. But it takes place, I think, like... No
idea. Probably like 10, 15 years before League.
I don't even know. Whatever. It's definitely
a prequel. So I guess if you don't know League
of Legends, there's a lot of these characters
that will show up that are like, oh, hey, I know
that guy. He's this champion in League. Oh, neat.
But I don't feel like I'm lost as far as they
throw a lot of proper nouns at you and stuff
like that. But the way that it's told, it feels
very accessible. And it treats these characters
with a lot of respect. Yeah. a lot of these characters
that villains especially so far are nuanced they're
relatable and you know it's kind of like oh man
like if there's not just much mustache twirling
evil for the sake of it you know there's a lot
of shades of gray and i'm kind of surprised that
something out of a league of legends like could
could have this kind of nuance to a story, I
guess. Right, yeah. Andrew and I were saying
it didn't need to be this good, but it is weird.
Yeah, right. Like, it is, yeah. And I'm not saying
it's good in spite of its origins, but it's worth
watching even if you don't care about League
at all. This is not just for the fans. I think
this is definitely worth watching if you like
any sort of animation. And visually, it is very
unique looking. It looks awesome. It has this
very cool art style where everything, it's CGI,
but it looks like hand -drawn okay like not pastel
but it has this like it looks like cards all
right cards yes the closest thing i could get
to it is honestly into the spider -verse they
look very different but kind of that you know
i like that no i like that yeah right it's not
it's not the same kind of like it's not like
you know they're not playing with the frame rate
and stuff like they were with Spider -Verse.
But I would say that's the closest thing I could
think of to that kind of style, that and that
Christmas movie, Klaus, that you showed me last
year, Joe. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Anyways, whatever.
I don't want to sing too many phrases. We're
only on episode four out of nine so far. They'll
be ready for the second season. Definitely hard
cash. If you see it on your Netflix feed and
you're like, oh, is that a League of Legends
show? I would say definitely give it a shot if
you're at all interested in it. It's great. So,
yep. Hard cash. Okay. Jill? we have been checking
out netflix's much anticipated cowboy bebop live
action adaptation and this is kind of interesting
because i'll just i'll start off with this we're
still we're on episode three okay so it's still
too soon to make a final call but it's definitely
not trash but it's also not cash okay not all
of it some parts are absolute cash casting fan
-fucking -tastic. Oh my god. Jon Cho owns this.
If this is the last thing he is ever in, I hope
he goes down as being a wonderful live adaptation
version of Spike Spiegel. I like Mustafa Shakir
as Jet Black. Jet Black is also really great.
Jet Black is great. I haven't seen much of Faye
yet. She was good too. So casting is really great.
Sound, fantastic. They got the original composer
back, so it really fits well. Where it starts
to get questionable is how much of an adaptation
do you want? Do you want it to be screen shot
for shot? Or do you want same characters, roughly
same story, but different avenues of getting
there? And as far as I can see, this show cannot
decide how it wants it. Yeah, right. First episode
is a shot -by -shot remake.