Hello and welcome to another episode of Game
for a Movie. My name is Mike. I will be your
host. I am joined by... Andre. And Jill. Hi,
friends. Hey. Welcome. I don't even know what
episode it is because now all of our things are
starting to blur together. We're in our mid -30s
now. It all starts to feel the same. High 30s.
High 30s, yeah. Well, so the thing that's confusing
is I've been putting the Game for a Movie trailers
out there and they count as episodes. So we're
at 41 episodes. So we've done four. So that means
it's episode 37, right? Yeah. Or I'm terrible
at math. I mean, I'm the worst person to ask
for that. I was told there would be no math.
All it sounds like to me is that it's time for
our midlife crisis. Oh, I'm in my 30s. No, no,
no, no, no, no. Midlife crisis are over. It's
quarter life crisis. Oh, quarter life crisis
is like 25. I know, but I'm saying we've gone
past the quarter life. I wasn't even around for
the quarter life. Okay, you're right. I do wonder
when you jumped in. It was like late 20s, right?
It was talking about Hansel and Gretel witch
hunters. That's right. All right, so we'll go
back and figure out when that is. So we also
jump in with what we're drinking. Yes. So, I'm
giving it to you, buddy. Okay, all right, fine.
Distribute it to me. All right, I am drinking
a year with Dr. Nandu. Okay. From Arrow Not Brewing
in Massachusetts. Massachusetts? Somerville,
Massachusetts, that's where. It's a cool place.
I've been a number of times when I lived in Boston.
If you're local to the area, check it out. It's
right next to a rock gym. Oh, nice. Nice. Oh,
that's cool. Make a good beer, too. What do you
got, Jill? I'm drinking a borrowed beer from
Mike. Yes, sir. It's Box of Raining Cats, which
genuinely sounds like an exploding kitten card.
Right. From Fat Orange Cat Brewing. Fat Orange
Cat. Love Fat Orange Cat. Which is located out
of, you want to take a stab? Derby? No, North
Haven, Connecticut, which is also where I work.
Wow, there you go. Exactly right. I knew it was
Connecticut. I just didn't know where it was.
Why don't you pick up four back of those on the
way back from the office, Joe? Distributed by
12%, so we've got to figure out what that is.
Oh, 12 % is awesome. So 12 % is a brewery collective.
That's why. I couldn't just roll into Fat Cat
Brewing. Fat Orange Cat. Fat Orange Cat to brew
whatever I'm saying. I couldn't just roll in
there to pick up a thing. I have to go to 12%.
That is probably accurate. 12 % is cool, though.
I highly recommend going there. I've got Fatal
Fly from Relic Brewing Company. It has an IPA
with Denali hops. It has a fish. I know. It's
a fly fish, right? I guess so, yeah. It's got
the little hook and everything, so I'm guessing
that's the Fatal Fly. This makes me think of
the dude with fish pick. Like the stereotypical
guy with a fish pick on dating profiles? It's
not a dick pick, it's a fish pick. It's a fish
pick, right. I mean, that's a fish pick beer.
That's fair. I mean, it is a fish. I will say
that... I did not use a fish pic on my profile
that Jill swiped right on. Listeners, viewers,
whoever, you can explain the fish pic appeal.
Please, get in on our Twitter and explain that.
I don't get that. Yeah, I don't get it at all.
What does it say? I'm outdoorsy? I can catch
a fish and we can survive? Yeah, you know, a
little bit more of a... Survivalist isn't the
right word for it, but yes, I like the outdoors,
you know. So, I hate fishing. Okay. Because when
I was a young kid... I put a hook through the
mouth, through the eye of the fish. Oh, no. You
blinded the fish? I blinded the fish. And we
were always planning on throwing it back. Yeah,
catch and release. So we had to take the eye
out, put it back in the water, and it drunk swam
into the shore and died. So I've hated fishing
ever since. So I was never going to have the
fish pick. In order to get my fishing merit badge,
I had to catch a fish and then cook it. So I
had to cross that barrier. The one time I went
fishing. Yep, pretty much. The one time I went
fishing, I couldn't even, like, cast it. So then
I handed the pole over to my friend Charlotte.
And, like, she did the form right and then hooked
my dress. Oh, no. So she went to, like, do that.
I'm like, ah! That is unfortunate. So she hooked
me. And then when she finally actually, so that
was attempt one. Second attempt, she got it into
the lake. This was on one of the New York Finger
Lakes. Hooked a fish, reeled it in. Well, at
least you must be a very good fisherman because
you're quite the catch, Joe. Aww. Don't make
it gross. I'm sorry. It was on the table. I had
to do it. Alright, so we're talking about fish,
so I guess that's a good segue into my movie
because we're talking about other animals. I
watched Pig. Pig, the Nicolas Cage, Alex Wolff
movie. Yes. It is without a doubt, I am not Just
talking it up. I'm not hyping it or anything
like that. Favorite movie of 2021. Wow. Okay.
Favorite movie. How did you watch this? Where
did you watch it? So I actually rented this.
Okay. Wait, so you like went to the modern day
Blockbuster or like a Redbox? So I went on Apple
Store and did the rental, downloaded it, and
watched it on a plane flying back from Cincinnati.
So it made for a good plane viewing experience.
It made for a great plane viewing experience.
And originally I was worried because they marketed
this movie as like, Ultra -violent revenge thriller.
That's immediately what I got when I saw the
trailer for this movie. So I was like, I don't
know if this is a plane movie. You know, like,
if I watch it, start it, I can pause it, I can
finish it tonight when I'm home, whatever. So
it's not Passion of the Pigs? Well, it's not
revenge ultra -thriller. Or ultra -violent thriller.
So the premise of the movie is Nicolas Cage lives
alone in the woods with a pig. They hunt for
truffles. The only person he really comes in
contact with is Alex Wolfe's character, who is
a restaurant supplier. So he supplies these restaurants.
He basically gets these truffles and sells them
to the restaurant and makes money. Does it take
place in the Pacific Northwest? It does. Yes,
it is in Portland, Oregon. The woods are outside,
but yeah, Portland, Oregon. One night, these
two tweakers... come and steal his pig. And now
he needs to go and get it back and figure out
where it is. And it is... It's harrowing. It's...
I'm telling you this premise going, really, this
is the movie I watch? But it's just so good.
It really is. And the thing that sells it the
best, we have an episode about Nicolas Cage and
about if he's a good actor, bad actor, whatever.
And... We each watched three Nicolas Cage movies.
This one, the reason it works is his understated
performance. Understated? Understated. That is
an adjective I never would have thought to attach
to a Nicolas Cage movie. The only thing I know
about this movie besides the setup is that he
does not talk a lot. Well, sure. Um, so he does,
more than like Willy's Wonderland, where he didn't
talk at all. I have not seen Willy's Wonderland.
That's the Five Nights at Freddy's movie. Why
don't they just call it what it is? It's a FNAF
movie. I think they got the rights. They got
the rights, exactly. Aren't they making a FNAF
movie? They are. They are. That's exactly why
they didn't call it that. Well, not for a while
now. Yeah, right. But like, Willy's Wonderland,
he doesn't say anything. I will say it is less
dialogue, but it's still, he still talks. Does
he talk more than Mad Max and Fury Road? Because
I remember people being very pissed about how
little. Tom Hardy talks. He works great in that
movie. Yeah, but he does talk. Yeah, every now
and again. That's a separate movie. Anyway, so
Nick Cage understated this movie. Understated.
It's not his, I am a vampire, blah, craziness.
Okay. It is very, like... emotionally driven
and it is it's just it's more an introspective
all right version good for nicholas gage yeah
so i i absolutely love this movie i thought it
was amazing um it is like i said i went in expecting
this ultra violent revenge thriller movie and
so like every time i'm just like okay this is
the part where he just gets like 50 guns and
just like goes to town killing people to get
his pig back no it's quiet it's talking it's
not attacking that kind of stuff and it's it
is very well done i absolutely loved it i thought
it was phenomenal um highly recommend okay yeah
you said that i've so who who else is it the
wolf which one's brother alex wolf this is this
is this is hereditary guy hereditary not light
yagami little brother wolf wait what from death
note Right? I believe so. Alex Wolfe, I think,
is the little brother. So this is Alex Wolfe.
Alex Wolfe. So that's Hereditary and Jumanji.
And old, right? And old, yes. Okay, great. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. So his little brother, Alex, was
in... Alex is in this movie. Is in this movie.
So you're getting the names flipped. I am getting
the names flipped. Whatever. The younger brother
of the... Second Wolf. The Second Wolf. Wait,
are the Naked Brothers band Wolves? They're the
Naked Brothers band Wolves, yeah. Oh my god,
that's a blast. So Nat Wolf. Nat Wolf. Nat Wolf
is the younger one. He was in the Death Note
movie. He was like... Yes. No, his name was like
Light Turner. Well, sorry, yes, Light Turner.
But whatever, Turner. I'm sorry. Wow. He was
not very good in that movie. I've heard. So I'm
happy it's not him, I guess. I don't know. They're
not naked anymore. Well, whatever. They're not
Naked Brothers Band anymore. Whatever they called
that? I don't know. That was Nickelodeon's answer
to the Jonas Brothers, right? Yes, correct. That
was Nickelodeon's, like, hoping they would get
a Disney Channel version. You know what? I don't
remember why. Yeah. I also love the fact that,
so I just looked up the Naked Brothers Band TV
show. The characters were named Nat. So Nat was
named Nat or Leo. oh not or leo yeah or or because
yeah yeah one or the other maybe they had like
a second maybe like let's because didn't maybe
what they nickelodeon did and i barely this is
a foggy edge of the memory here maybe it's like
naked brothers man didn't do well let's re let's
come back together retool us and have a new series
And we'll call them different names. Literally,
I never watched Naked Brothers Band, so... Yeah,
me either. It's past my time. I mean, I didn't
care about the Jonas Brothers when I was close
enough to be a fangirl for them, but the JoBros
at least had crazy hair and scarves. Like I said,
the main touching stone for both Wolf Brothers
for me is Jumanji and the Death Note adaptation.
Jumanji, the new Jumanji. The new Jumanji. He's
the real -life character of Dwayne the Rock Johnson.
See, all I remember is Dwayne. Right, but he's
a real world version of him. So Alex Wolfe in
this movie, basically he's a restaurant supplier,
like I said. He followed in the footsteps of
his father. And so of course there's some father
drama where he just is not as good at it. And
he wants to be better. And so there's a lot of
self -confidence stuff, that kind of thing. Which
is an interesting journey as well. It's not as
emotional as the fucking pig. Does the pig have
a name? Uh, it's just known as Pig. Okay. Yeah.
I like that. I don't. Give me a name. It doesn't
have to be like Wilbur or anything like that.
I mean, it's just a pig living in the middle
of the woods with Nicolas Cage. Like, there's
no need for a name. I'm a whimsy person. Let
me name my animals. You can name your animals
on your own time. I will, you know. He has nobody
else he's introducing this pig to. Like, it's
him and Alex Wolfe know about the pig. Him and
Pig. Yeah. Cool. I think. It's a pig named Pig.
So, you would recommend this movie then? I would
highly recommend this movie. Would this crack?
This is a very loaded question. Would this crack
your top five Nick Cage movies? Is this in his
lexicon now? So I have said that I think this
is my favorite Nick Cage movie. Whoa. Wow. And
I know that's saying a lot. Better than National
Treasure? Yes, because National Treasure isn't
my favorite. Okay. Wrong, but it's okay. No,
it isn't. It's gone in 60 seconds. That's the
right answer. Wow, that's still huge. Not leaving
Las Vegas? Leaving Las Vegas is great, but it's
not Gone in 60 Seconds. Gone in 60 Seconds. I
don't think I've actually seen Gone in 60 Seconds.
What? Gone in 60 Seconds. Oh my god. It's why
I'm not defending. It's not why I'm trying to
argue. Yeah, right. It sounds like we need to
watch Pig and then Gone in 60 Seconds. Well,
no. I actually need to watch Leaving Las Vegas
first. Okay. Why are you going to bat for a movie
you haven't seen? I'm not arguing for or against
them. I'm just dropping their names in, like,
little grenades along the way. You're in trivia
mode. I get it. Okay. Because I know these things.
Everything hurts. I shout. Sometimes I say things,
but it's all shallow level. So this is kind of
crazy, because, like... I mean, I've heard a
lot of good things about this movie. Yeah, me
too. This is quickly moving up on my short list.
According to the Rotten Tomatoes list that came
out yesterday, it is number eight on the top
50 movies of 2021 this year. Wow. According to
ratings. And a question that I have, interesting
one, hopefully. Could any other actor play the
role that Nicolas Cage is playing, or is it only,
this is only a role he could do? So, it's funny,
because normally I say no, because I think Nic
Cage just goes, goes ham, goes crazy. Yeah, it's
his own unique right now. It's his calling card.
He goes ham. No! God damn it. It's a full fat
performance. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but yeah, oh
my god. Wow. Yeah, he didn't pork belly up. No!
But he's making bacon with his music. Alright,
we need to stop. Alright, alright. We need to
stop. Anyway, my question. Could any other...
Could you see another actor in this role or this
really is him? So really, what I was saying is
normally, no. Nobody else could do this. I think
somebody else could do this. Okay. But he is
excellent in it. I don't know if I'd like to
see anybody else in it. Because I think it can
be... Because it is understated. It can be done
by others. But... I think he's just such a great
fit for it because he's also a guy you look at
and you believe he loves this pig. He just loves
this pig. I wonder. I'm interested. The movie
I watched for Nick Cage for this pod, Matchstick
Men, I would say that's probably my favorite
of the movies he's done. And I would say that
he would be the only actor I could imagine playing
that kind of character. So I'm kind of curious
to see how this matches up with Matchstick Man.
Because Matchstick Man was like the big surprise
movie for me. And now it's back in 2003. And
like I said, it caught me off guard that it wasn't
him over the top going crazy. I expected him,
like the end of Mandy, blood soaked. Sure, sure,
sure. Mandy is Pete Cage, right? Feels like to
me. There's been the valley of... Cage. No, no,
no. I'm just saying more so like Mandy is over
the top, you know, is where I'm at. I don't know.
I feel like he was pretty over the top in Ghost
Rider. Yes, yes, but in a different way. That's
why I'm saying that it's not like me. Ghost Rider
is more of a generic as a product of its time.
Like, yes, I'm happy the cage is in it and it
makes it better for me, but... Ghost Rider is
a product of the superhero films of that era.
So what was the one? Oh, Face Off. That's a good
one. Face Off. You're right. Face Off is another.
Face Off to me is peak. But it's a different
side of Nick Cage. He's a multifaceted man, this
Nick Cage. Definitely. Yeah. Well, you haven't
watched Matchstick Man, right? We should watch
that together. It's really good. I'm not going
to say that it portrays an autistic man like...
super accurately or anything like that i have
no way to comment on that but more like that
specific character in a vacuum very interesting
to watch you know he lends he lends a lot to
the performance i also just saw wicker man where
he wicker man see that would be like wicker man
is not good it's a sad remake of a great film
from the 70s i think um but if you're gonna make
a bad remake put nicholas cage in it because
it's the tim curry effect yeah doesn't matter
if the movie is garbage this one actor even if
they're only in one scene is gonna basically
make the whole viewing experience and experience
worth it then you're swiftly reminded the minute
they're off the screen oh this is the rest of
this is hot garbage but for one glowing moment
if it's only one scene They're great. And that's
the Tim Curry effect. I mean, literally, we can
talk about Nick Cage in Wicker Man for forever.
Not the bee! Not the bee! Him punching out the
woman in the bear suit. In the bear suit, yes,
exactly, yeah. So bad. It's terrible, but it's
great. It is. It's Pete Cage. It is Pete Cage.
Like I said, the valley, for the third time I'm
probably on this mic, the valley of Nicolas Cage
is filled with Pete. Valleys of Peaks. Valleys
of Peaks. Yes. Yes, agreed. All right, so I'm
going to give it... Really? I think I'm giving
it five out of five. Five out of five what? Truffles.
I can't think of anything else that fits better.
It's just too perfect for it. As much as I would
love to, it's just perfect for it. I just think
it's the magic card truffle snout. It's a pig.
We played some magic together with some friends
and that was the MVP card, even though it's terrible.
It's a cute little piggy called Truffle Snout.
Nobody wants him, but it's Truffle Snout. A green
and a white, a 2 -2. You little cute little piggy.
Add him to your deck. Just make sure he's compatible
first. Yeah, right. All right, speaking of magic.
Yeah. Oh, okay. I'm nailing the segues today.
Oh, my God, Mike. You're on fire. This is fantastic.
This is something Andre and I are both going
to talk about. Yes. Well, the issue is that this
is going to be more of an open. This is not my
movie. This is everybody. We've all seen this
movie, and it's Shang -Chi, right? The biggest
marvel. Shang -Chi. latest Marvel Cinematic Universe
entry what's the subtitle is it Legend of the
Ten Rings Secret of the Ten Rings no I don't
think it's Secret and the Legend of the Ten Rings
and the Legend of the Ten Rings so says the internet
so says the internet and the Legend of the Ten
Rings yeah off the top I mean like honestly like
This movie's getting a lot of buzz. It's been
the one movie to break through the pandemic box
numbers. $200 million? $200 million. It literally
single -handedly caused Sony to move up Venom,
let there be carnage for two weeks. Venom! Venom!
Oh my god. Yeah, I mean, you know, hey, this
movie's got a lot of buzz and I think it deserves
all the credit it gets. I think this was a lot
of fun. I enjoyed it greatly. Simu Liu is great.
Hard thumbs up. I am so down to see him in more
Marvel movies. And yeah, but that's really all
I can comment on it, I guess. I don't know. It's
a good middle of... this was uh andre you said
it earlier this was a really great this is probably
one of the better origin story right for for
a first for for a movie introducing like if if
we pare down all the mcu to only just the first
introduction movies origin movies right yeah
This is a better one of those, right? This is
on the upper echelon of those, right? We're just
talking origin movies, not like Civil War. No,
no, no. Civil War. Captain Marvel, Doctor Strange,
Thor, Iron Man. I figured, but I just wanted
to give our audience the basic. If this was in
Phase 1, this would have been one of my favorites
in Phase 1. That seems like a weird thing to
say. Or even Phase 2, depending on who brought
it. But, you know, Phase 1 is all those movies,
right? It was all the introduction, and then
Iron Man 2, and then... Iron Man, Captain America,
First Avenger, Thor. The only sequel in there
was Iron Man 2 and Avengers, right? Yep, and
then Incredible Hulk. Right. Yeah, great. Yeah.
I definitely, I mean, like, besides Iron Man,
I would argue it's my favorite of those. Okay.
Iron Man still is at the top for me. Yeah. Captain
America, First Avenger. Yeah. Wait, a lot of
people come in and I don't know, like, yeah,
I'm hesitant to say it's one scene in Thor. The
scene when he's in the diner. Because I went
to go see Thor. The trailer shot? Yeah. No, because
I saw the movie Thor in theaters with a friend
and for some reason when he, like, threw the
thing down and then smiled. No, before that,
when Darcy goes to take a picture, he smiles
and I just turn to my friend, not intoxicated.
at all and just said, his smile makes me think
of pancakes. It makes me happy. To which she
responded, you don't like pancakes. Because I
don't like pancakes. But it made me happy. Wait,
you don't like pancakes? I'm a small person.
Eating a pancake is like eating an animal. But
it's still a pancake. It's a pancake though.
I didn't know about this. I'm a silver dollar
pancake girl. The thing is that we haven't come
to the head to head on this yet because as far
as breakfast goes, I'm usually a savory guy.
So I make an omelet. I'm an eggs Benny. Yeah,
eggs Benny. Which is fine. I get that. But I
love pancakes, too, though. I don't like pancakes.
I prefer waffles, and I know they're just plaid
pancakes. They are just plaid pancakes. But they
hold the syrup better, honestly, in my opinion.
That's true. You would have to drag me. You can't
have chicken and waffles. You can't have chicken
and pancakes. You'd have to drag me into IHOP.
How the hell did we get on this conversation?
Because of Thor! That being said, Shang -Chi,
right? It was really good. I would say that if
we were to do the whole ranking... They would
fall squarely right in the middle for me. Yeah,
same here. Higher than Doctor Strange, lower
than Captain Marvel. That is a hot take, I would
say, that it's lower than Captain Marvel. I really,
upon rewatch of Captain Marvel, which I can,
you know, I have a rewatch on Captain Marvel.
I really like Captain Marvel. I would more readily
show somebody who's disinterested in the MCU
this movie because I would say the action scenes
are way cooler. Yes. I think the combat is amazing
in this film. I think the thing that puts Captain
Marvel ahead of this film is I really love the
chemistry between Samuel L. Jackson and Brie
Larson. Sure. Okay. Okay. That's fair. That's
fair. So I think it falls to me. low top 10 or
high top 15 like which is really good considering
you're talking about a series that's over but
it's almost is it 23 it's in my 20s now right
yeah i think it's 24 so again upper half right
yeah and i agree and i'm okay with being in the
top 15 yeah it fits there yeah I'm wondering,
because I haven't sat down and said, okay, this
is where it goes. I'm wondering if it cracks
that top 10 or not. It's definitely top 10 to
15. I need to see it again, but something I can
say about it is that this movie is over two hours,
I think. Did not feel like it was two hours.
I have a very big confession to make. When we
watched this film... I was pretty blitzed, honestly.
We were, you know, we were having a night out
on the town, you know. We went out to eat. We
went to the bar. I got him a nice pour of whiskey.
Rye. Got him a nice pour of rye. So I got done
with work early, and I was like, Claire, we're
going to go to this movie, you know. Like, we're
going to go to 8 .30 showing. I thought 8 .30
was fine. Yeah. It was a work night. We went
to an 8 .30 show. Yeah. It was a work night,
so I was like, okay, come on, 8 .30? Like, I'm
not pressuring you to go to 10 o 'clock or anything
like that. And she goes, I'm too tired. I'm like.
Come on. She goes, you can go. I was like, okay,
done. I'm going. So I have one thing that I have
a bone to pick with that I wonder if you guys
have the same. Okay. Lay it out there. Trevor
Slattery. I kind of loved seeing him, and then
they didn't know what to do with him. He was
just there. They literally were like, we need
to reference Iron Man 3 somehow. Somehow. We
need to reference Ben Kinsley now. I wonder how
much Ben Kinsley made for that role, for that
appearance. Yeah, no, they didn't know what to
do with him. He was, like, three days on set,
probably? Yeah, probably, dude. Because the last
half of the movie is all green screen, basically.
Right, and he was even away from the action,
so he could have done his stuff solo. All in
one day. They could have CGI'd him in, like,
Army of Dead style. Yeah, no, what I'm saying
is, if it ever is released and he was only on
set for one day, I'd buy it. I love seeing, um...
Ben Kingsley in anything, and I genuinely did
not expect him to pop up there. So that was fun.
It was just, you know, from a writing perspective...
What are you doing here? What's the point? Okay,
I guess he's there to talk about how cute Morris
is. Yeah, right. Like, literally, that's literally
his whole entire arc is that he has this cute...
Morris is sad. Morris is scared. He's a cute
animal friend translator. That's it. And it's
like, what? He's like Sigourney Weaver in Galaxy
Quest, just there to translate the ship. Yep.
Yep. Yep. Yeah. That was one thing that bugged
me. Okay. And it's not that I don't want to see
Trevor Slattery. I guess we should have said
off the top spoilers for Shang -Chi, but whatever.
I mean, if you're invested, you've probably seen
it by now, right? If you listen to our show,
you know we do spoilers. Yes, that's true. Sorry
if we spoiled something for you, but hey. I would
not call... My name is Trevor! By the way, Rosebud
is a slay. Oh. Okay. I didn't say in what movie.
That's a spoiler for something out there. That's
for Avengers 4. Definitely. 6? 4. 5? 8? 9? 8
and a half. 10? 9 and a half and three quarters.
Sold. Cool. The one where Harry Potter pops up
in the MCU. Oh, hell yeah. Harry Potter's gonna
show up. I mean, that would make sense. Dude,
bro! Wizards are metahumans. Oh, wait. No, that's
DC. DC is metahumans. Yes. And DC owns Universal
owns... No. No. Universal is its own thing. DC
is its own thing. Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers,
yes. I just want Harry Potter to say trans rights
on screen. That's it. Sorry to make it political,
but there we go. Wow. I just want somebody to
say it's good to be black on the moon. Well,
that too, I guess. Sure, whatever. That works.
Anyways, Space Force is great. Space Force. Yeah.
That's my favorite line from 2020. All right,
all right. Pulling back. It's good to be black
on the moon. Okay, great. You can edit that out.
No. It's stupid, but no. Awkwafina. Let's talk
about Awkwafina. She was fine. I don't mind seeing
her again, but it's not like she was a big pull
for me for that movie. She wasn't a big pull,
but she didn't annoy me. I know I have a lot
of people that were annoyed by the fact that
it was Awkwafina. I was going to say a lot of
people were annoyed by her whenever she's in
things. There was a lot of people annoyed at
her existence in Raya, which I have not seen.
But she is in it. She's the last dragon. I feel
bad just constantly comparing this to other MCU
movies, but this is what I have the basis for.
I found her more enjoyable than Kat Dennings
in all the Thor movies. Wow. I will just say
straight up. But did Kat Dennings redeem herself?
I liked Kat Dennings in WandaVision. I liked
her in WandaVision. Dr. Darcy. Yes. Because she
was less grating in... Because she was actually
an active... participant in the plot. You know
what I mean? In all the fucking Thor movies,
she was just there to comment on how hot Thor
was and also saying, wow, this sure is crazy.
Right, guys? That we're in a comic book movie.
Wow. Cool. I'm really happy you turned it around,
Darcy. Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. And it's not
Kat Dennings' fault. I'm not saying Kat Dennings
is a bad actress or anything like that. That'd
be dumb. I'm just saying Darcy's character I
didn't like as much. But that's the most... I
have to compare, right? I would say that Awkwafina
has very good chemistry with Simu Liu. Okay.
Yeah. I think that, like, that's a good duo.
And it was... refreshing to see a platonic friend
kiss yes exactly they didn't end up like kissing
passionately at the end no like at the end when
they do like the arm hook yeah yeah okay yeah
yeah their door's still open but it didn't need
to be it was not a plot arc yes for the story
that like oh by the way unrequited feelings oh
my god we're gonna die i need to tell you something
oh my god i need to tell you something too okay
oh that was kind of awkward we didn't die What
do we do now? Right. Let's just go do karaoke
and pretend we didn't kiss. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I thought their chemistry was good.
We talked about briefly the combat. It was up
until a certain point. Yeah. I loved the way
that they were filming those fight scenes. I
thought they were excellent. Yeah. It's really.
The bus scene was. The bus scene was great. That's
my biggest problem with this movie is that it
peaked early. It peaked early. The bus scene
was my favorite. Yes. That was my favorite fight.
Yeah. I would say that, you know, it's like many.
Marvel films and TV shows now, it suffers the
last act problem where it's just a CGI mess.
As soon as the actual fight between Shang -Chi
and his father ends. I mean, yes, his father,
but then there's the giant. Well, that's what
I'm saying. Like, like, like the giant dragon.
I was like, I don't really care. Smoke monster.
Yeah. And I'm like, I was immediately like, okay,
cool. This is how this movie is going to go.
Like all the other Marvel movies. Like, yeah,
fine. The final, but like the, the fight between
him, like at the gates with his father, that
was cool. Emotional stakes were high. And yes,
it was predictable and cliche or whatever, but
it was cool. And I was invested, right? Every,
every fight, the whole fight after that, I was
like, I'll also say what I kept saying after
the movie was I actually liked the reasoning.
behind the actions. There was no real turncoat
at the end where he's just like, I know I'm wrong,
I want to turn to the light side. He still thinks
he's right. He accepted his choices. Exactly.
He accepted his fate. And I have to say, he was
by far since, I don't know if he's the best MCU
villain, but it's been a while, and I have to
say, he was a pretty enjoyable villain. Right,
definitely. I was emotionally invested in his
arc's not the right word but more of yeah he's
not like yes he is obviously like, the main character's
polar opposite, like so many other Marvel movies,
the Phase 1 Marvel movies like this are, but
he had more of an emotional investment in the
film than, certainly than Jeff Bridges in MCU,
in Iron Man 1. I love Iron Man 1. Obitue Estain
was very invested. I guess so, but whatever.
In money, right. That was his arc. Tony Stark
built this in a cave! That was his arc. I mean,
I agree, I agree. Even though I didn't, was it
the most well -written? Is he Killmonger 2 .0?
No. But I felt the pain. This is a man who only
genuinely possibly likely loved one thing. Right.
And she is gone now. And the concept of her not
being in this world is just too much. Who's the
bad guy? Who's the big bad evil guy in Guardians
1? Oh, it's Ronan. Ronan, right. Ronan the Accuser.
Yeah, so on a scale of Ronan the Killmonger,
the Mandarin is definitely... Ronan is your end
of the spectrum? He's probably there. Yeah, what
about the dude Yellowjacket from Ant -Man? Okay,
you're right. I take that back. Yellowjacket's
the worst. Or Dormammu. Dormammu. I can't say
it. Dormammu. Dormammu's the most disappointing
because Dormammu they treat as a force of nature,
which I can respect a decision, but I... He's
a fart gas. Yeah, right. He was fart from Rick
and Morty. What's that? He was fart from Rick
and Morty. He was fart from Rick and Morty, exactly.
Oh, wait, you're forgetting a villain from second
Iron Man 2. Whiplash. Whiplash? He's pretty bad.
I liked Whiplash. I liked him as well, but he's
just there. So with Iron Man 2, I think a lot
was left on the cutting room floor. And you can
definitely tell, like, Mickey Rourke is very
salty about that movie. He's like, there's a
lot of nuance. And, okay, there is a version
of Whiplash that is... very interesting to me
right um not to totally derail this conversation
but like there could have they could have written
in such a way that like mickey like or whiplash
could have been this the kind of the product
of of howard stark sins almost right which could
have been very cool but obviously they didn't
have the runtime for that and whatever etc etc
just kind of did it later for Homecoming. Yes.
Spider -Man Homecoming. And to be fair, they
did a really great job with Michael Keaton's
character. The Vulture. Also, we're forgetting,
I hate to say it, Christopher Eccleston's Dark
Elf Malekith. You're right. Never mind. He's
the worst villain. You're right. Absolutely,
he's the worst villain. He's actually absolutely
the worst villain. I had to think about who he
was. Fine, fine, fine. On a scale of Doctor Who
Dark Elf to... To Killmonger. The Mandarin is
much closer to Killmonger. Wait, wait, wait.
So the Mandarin is being Ben Kingsley. No. No.
Tony Leung is not called the Mandarin. You're
right. I'm sorry. He adopts the name. He adopts
the name, right. The actor's Tony Leung. Yeah,
Tony Leung's character, but I don't remember
his name. Zhu Wenwu. Zhu Wenwu? Zhu Wenwu. I
didn't want to botch the name. X -U -W -E -N.
The True Father or something. Yeah, I'm probably
butchering the hell out of it. You can take that
bullet. Yeah, well, it's meant with love. But
he acted the shit out of what he was getting.
He did. Yes, he did. Yeah. But that's the thing.
So, whatever. On the spectrum of origin story
villains, he is much higher in the upper echelon.
I want to know who the halfway mark is. The halfway
mark? Is it Red Skull? Um, probably. Yeah, that's
actually a really good point. Are you going to
count, I guess, Andy Serkis' claw? The claw?
No. I mean, he's Black Panther. He's not the
big bad in it. He's not bad in it. No, he's not
the big bad in it. But he's not the big evil
bad guy. Exactly, right. And, like, if you argue
Age of Ultron, it's still Ultron. It's Ultron.
Ultron cuts off his hand. So, yeah, I guess,
who is the middle point? The middle point is
probably Red Skull because he is a total facsimile,
but that's... Oh, but Diastane. Diastane, yeah.
Well, he's a total caricature, but that fits
Captain America great, so... like I would not
say he detracts from that movie but I wouldn't
say he adds to it either I'm just gonna go quickly
through on my hand of like first film so Obadiah
Stane Yellow Jacket Guy Dormammu Red Skull hold
on you're gonna throw me off Loki um Captain
Marvel's villain is the Chitauri Yeah, um, no.
The Krill? No, the Krill are who they think they're
fighting against, but they're not. The Skrull.
It's the Kree. Jude Law. Let's just say Jude
Law. And Ronan the Accuser. Ronan for Guardians,
and that is their NU1. Ego? No, that's the second
one. That's not Origin. I mean, besides, so going
through... Tony Leung. Slash whatever, whoever
the darkness is. Zu Wenwu. Zu Wenwu. So, on that
list, besides Killmonger, because Killmonger
is only big of his own, I think. Right. Killmonger,
no one touches Killmonger. Killmonger and Loki,
one could argue on that. Killmonger is the main
character of the Black Panther movie, like, straight
up. I would say, then, on that list, Zu Wenwu
is three. Okay. Who's the second for you? Loki.
Loki. Loki and Killmonger. I know, but it's hard
to categorize. Killmonger, Loki walked, so Killmonger
could run. I guess so, right. Like, Loki is,
like, not even a villain anymore. And I don't
mean that in, I just mean that I think by the
time they got to Killmonger. Yeah, I know, yeah.
Origin, yes, I get it. I think the story that
they told with Black Panther really worked for
Killmonger, but I also think they looked at Loki
and be like, what about this character works
so well, and why do people love him? Yeah. We
need to make, we need nuance. Yeah. Loki having
nuance, I think, was an accident. right and then
yes killmonger was intention and fantastic acting
yes yes yes all right we need ratings okay because
we need to yeah at the end of the day i mean
like this is a this is a fun mcu movie i feel
like if you you're you've been sold on this movie
you saw the trailer all right like like i think
you can watch this trailer and you can decide
like okay like this is a good jumping in point
for me, or, okay, it's an MMC movie, I don't
need to see it. Yeah, I would say, though, if
you're going to jump in on Marvel now and you
don't want to watch everything that came before,
this is one of those movies. Yeah, this is great.
You can watch this in a vacuum and it's still
really fun because the action scenes are so well
done. And especially, I mean, they do address
the things that have happened. Sure, but you
don't need to know it. Right. You don't need
to know it. It's not overwhelming. It's, yeah.
And I'm excited to see Shang -Chi and more stuff.
Me too. He is no longer stock photo man. exactly
congrats dude hidden fucking clown like seemingly
you're like tweeting out like clown like what
was like of me looking at the box office like
opening box office is like so good pick free
this guy love that fucking i hope someday i'll
come across a textbook with you in it yeah god
that'd be amazing i might have already um i'm
gonna give this i'm gonna give this one uh three
and a half uh karaoke songs out of five i'm gonna
match that with three and a half longs Okay.
Oh, Wong. It was nice to see Wong. It is nice
to see Wong. I'm going to do Three and a Half
Rings. Yeah. Oh, and I also just want to take
a moment to say that the actress who played Shang
-Chi's sister was also... Yes. She wasn't on
screen. They didn't do much with her character.
I would have liked more, but what they gave was
very good, and I look forward to hopefully seeing
her in other films. Was that Fala Chen? Yes.
Okay. who met her now husband on the set of this
film. Oh, that's nice. Congrats to her. Congrats
to them. But it's hashtag Casher Trash. Casher
Trash. I'm going to start, I guess, and I'm going
to talk about Schmigadoon. It's an Apple TV show.
It's Cecily Strong, Keegan -Michael Key. They
get stuck in basically... Oh, the guy who voices
Toad, right? Oh my god. Sorry. We can get into
a whole conversation about that. But yes, you're
correct. He does voice Toad. Have you seen the
cut of the substitute teacher with Toad voice?
Yes! They dubbed over the Toad voice for... So
good. But yes. So this is a show where they get
stuck in a land that's basically a giant musical.
And it's a la, like, Oklahoma, that kind of stuff.
Brigadoon. Brigadoon, yes, exactly. So, there
it is. I was trying to figure out where they
came up with the name Shmigadoon. Brigadoon?
Yeah, that makes sense. A movie I need to show
you. I've already seen it in musical form, yeah.
But you haven't seen the Gene Kelly proper version.
Fair enough, fair enough. Gene Kelly. Let Gene
Kelly dance. Okay, fair enough. Six episodes,
I believe. Okay. It's real short, like for the
first season. I've seen the first two. Yeah,
it's real short for the first season. It went
quick. Highly recommend it. It's cash. Cecily
Strong kills it. She's actually my favorite part
of the whole thing. Keegan -Michael Key, great.
I liked Alan Cumming in the episodes that I've
seen. Yeah, Alan Cumming's very good. And of
course, I mean, it's Kristen Bell. Yeah. Kristen
Bell. You know, she's going to be fine. I need
to show you Reefer Madness so you can see what
they do with her character in that. Yeah. Little
Miss Mary Sunshine. So I'll say cash. Passing
it to you, Andre. Cool. Putting the game in game
for me. Oh, hell yeah. Well, at the top, I want
to give a shout out to Ted Lasso. We've already
talked about it in a previous episode. And also,
I think it's big enough now that Ted Lasso, we're
currently caught up. It continues to be excellent.
If you haven't watched that show, you should
watch it. If you can, please watch it. Extreme
cash. Yes. That being said, the only other current
thing that I'm... consuming right now is uh a
video game uh a jrpg called tales of a rise it
came out a couple weeks ago and it's kind of
been the big it's kind of been the game that
i've been playing kind of while i have been in
my free time you know um between work stuff because
i've been working a little longer hours more
recently and um I don't know. So it is a JRPG.
It's an entry in the long -running Tales of series.
Tales of Symphonia was the first one I played
back on the GameCube days. There's been Tales
of Vesperia. Tons of whatever. Keep going. I
could go on for many, many hours. This is the
first time they've put out one on the PS4 or
PS5, rather. And they kind of took a breather.
They've been pumping these games out every year.
Did you get a PS5? I did, yeah. It's happened
for a while. It's awesome. I love it. He's a
big girl. Yeah, she's the biggest console I've
ever owned. Holy shit, man. Like, hard to find
a... place to put that goddamn thing yeah that
sounds about right it's pretty huge i call her
birdie either way you don't need a ps5 you can
have it you can play this on ps4 or xbox three
or xbox one i believe um this they took a breather
they usually pump out these games every other
year so i think this one was the first one in
five years um they took their time with it and
it shows because the budget there is way better
than most of the games in the series it is very
anime it's very the story is very cliche but
the i would say it looks really pretty uh the
combat is a lot of fun and the characters the
party members you accrue together they have good
chemistry and i'm invested i'm i'm hooked about
30 out 30 35 hours in which is more than i can
say for most video games nowadays so perfect
if you're kind of in the hankering for like you
know a a long ish game i think it's supposed
to be in 50 hours is supposed to be the end of
the where you roll credits that you kind of zone
out to, but kind of just enjoy, let the, let
the, let the, let the cliche story wash over
you with the fun combat, it's a lot of fun, very
over the top, um, I'm engaged with it. Tales
of Arise gets a cash for me. Perfect. You say,
like, long game, it's only 50 hours. Meanwhile,
I'm like, what, 95 hours? Right. So there are
some JRPGs that could get up to, like, you know,
you're talking Persona. 120 hours for Dragon
Quest. Right, right. Persona. Persona, Xenoblade,
you can get to 100, 150 hours with those. And
there's nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong
with that at all. This is a quote -unquote shorter
game, only quote -unquote 50 hours. But to me,
I'm like, okay, this is holding my attention.
I can see this is the end without being excited.
As a person who's not really into... JRPGs I
enjoyed Persona a lot and put the hours in so
like yeah so my trash my cash and trash option
trash got it my cash and trash is not a movie
not a video game it's actually I guess it's a
YouTube video, YouTube clip slash, I guess the
overall property. And that is Blue's Clues. Oh
my gosh. I know, I can't believe I'm saying this.
They've been, they've been killing it lately.
They've been killing it. So first you got Steve
coming back and giving his really sweet, like,
I never forgot you. You look great. We do all,
you know, you're growing up. um it's a pep talk
i didn't know i needed exactly it's a pep talk
the world didn't know it needed um blue's clues
is turning 25 sorry if that made you feel old
so they're doing a lot of like um content to
come out to celebrate it so most recently at
least to me is a 30 or so second clip of them
doing a remix version of I'm Blue by Eiffel 65.
65, yes. By Eiffel 65 of I'm Blue. But it's like,
you know, yo, listen up. Here's the story of
a puppy who lives in, like, a clue world or something
like that. In a clue world. And it's got Steve.
it's got joe it's got the new super sexy dude
josh could have done that out of detail that's
okay that was not necessary yeah josh is hot
and i'm not ashamed of it If you've seen Josh,
you know what I'm talking about. And they're
doing a version of I'm Blue, and it just makes
you happy. And I'm all for things that make you
happy. And at 30 seconds, how can you not say
yes? Yeah, Jill showed me that clip right after
we finished He's All That, and I said that brought
me more joy than the entire 90 minutes I spent
watching the preview. Yeah, it's good. Watch
it. Watch it. It's gonna feel fine. So, definitely
cash, I guess. Yeah, it's cash. I don't know
what's become of Nick Jr. since I was a kid,
but who cares? Their social media game is on
point. They know what they're doing. They know.
They know. They know who they're targeting. They
know what we will like. Also, to be honest, like
Josh, very sexy, very fun. Okay. Third time you
said that. Why do we have to keep saying this?
He's a nice tall glass of water. Fourth time
you said that. Let's, yeah. Joe was also quite
easy on the eyes and had great hair. Great. Love
it. I mean, come on. You were all of the generation
of the blues clues. It's true. But I also. Yeah.
I don't know. I don't think I was supposed to
feel about the Blue's Clues host that way. I'm
not the only one. I'm sure you're not. Yeah.
I'm trying to think of another like real life
person. Oh, Blue's Clues and You they call it
now. That's the new version with Josh. Blue's
Clues and You. Okay, got it. Joshua Delacruz.
I don't know. He's fine. He looks like a dude.
He looks like a real person. Like I could meet
him in a bar. Maybe seduce him with my wings.
Wow. Cool. How does that make you feel? We've
gone from gross to broken up by the end of the
episode. I gotta find a fucking dog spray painted
blue and go look at fucking clues, man. Holy
shit. We just got a boner. Oh, no. Is it mail
time? Mate time. Oh, no. Cut the feed. Cut the
feed. Oh, my. This is what Nick Jr. wants. We
have gone off. Off the rails. Definitely not.
I don't know. Off the rails. Oh, my God. All
right. Well, that'll do it for this episode of
Game for a Movie, where we ask, are you game
for a movie? I have been Mike. I'm Andre. I like
moody dwarves. What? I feel like Thornow can
chill into this. Okay, all right. Let's chill
over there. Let's chill. Cackling maniacally.
Because of your puppy voice. Uh -huh. Mitchell
and T -Dog are somewhere. We'll see you next
time on Game for a Movie. Do you think T -Dog
looks for clues with blue? No. No. I think, yeah.