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You know what that sound means? It's another

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Game for a Movie episode, episode 36. My name

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is Mike Butank. I'm your host. I am joined by...

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Andre. And Jill. Yay! Yes, you guys got it this

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time, yes. So, it's an interesting day because

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we don't have Mitchell. Unfortunately, he was

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feeling a little under the weather. I guess we

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could have played Where's Mitchell, but... We'll

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just spoil it this time. Yeah, we'll just spoil

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it this time. He's just not feeling well. So

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we hope for a fast and speedy recovery for Mitchell.

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Yeah. We're pretty confident it's not the COVID.

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No, I don't think so. I don't think so either.

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Just in case people are saying, oh, he's under

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the weather. It's got to be COVID. Blah, blah,

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blah, blah, blah. When in doubt, it's the Rona.

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Right, exactly. When in doubt, it's the Rona.

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Yeah, it's pretty accurate, actually. um let's

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start with what are we drinking so we're gonna

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start with jill just because actually i want

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to finish on andre for this one okay that's fine

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i'm drinking the really exciting beverage water

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ah water it's so responsible yeah that's a good

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thing to be drinking it's very cold though and

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i oh i like cold water i just saw mike pull up

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a beard can Yes, I did pull up a beard can. I

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do love beard a lot. They are infamous for me

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with dogs and boats and their knockoff, which

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is a little lighter, kittens and canoes. I have

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their eight days a week, which is an American

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pale ale single hopped with citra. Is that a

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Beatles reference? It has to be. I mean, yeah,

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technically, yes. You can edit that out. but

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that's a song it's it's it's from the early days

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it's less than 15 seconds we're not going to

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get busted for it so right no it's just a bad

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rendition of it i'm more of a rubber soul revolver

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onward um yeah i really don't know why the reason

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it's called eight days a week, but it is a Beatles

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reference. It's definitely a Beatles reference,

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but they have like the clock that you punch the

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clock and everything like that. So it's very

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good. It's not my favorite beard, but it is a

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very good beard. I mean, any beard is a good

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beard. Exactly. That's not true. What? Any beer

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is a good beer. Any bearded beer. Okay, I heard

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any beer is a good beer. Any beer from the brewery

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beard. Yes, any beer from the brewery beard is

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good. Not every beer is good. I will also say,

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like, my can is very perspiring. So, like, my

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hands are very wet. So if you hear, like, my

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hands going, it's just more so because the beer

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is just, like, sweating on me. Yeah. So that

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brings us to Andre. Andre, I want to know what

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this concoction is you made. Okay. Oh, so I made

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myself a cocktail. It is called the 12 Mile Limit.

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Do you want me to just tell you what's in it?

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Yeah. Tell me everything. All right. Here's the

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specs. One ounce rum, half ounce rye whiskey,

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half ounce cognac, half ounce grenadine, half

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ounce lemon juice. This shit is dope. I was just

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going to say, how does it taste? That's a lot

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of alcohol. It is, but, well, you know, it's

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only half an ounce of a bunch of stuff, so. Yeah,

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that's fair. About your average cocktail. Yeah,

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it's tasty. I had some granite I needed to get

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through, so I gave it a shot. Very happy. I will

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say, if you haven't heard before, Andre is a

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cocktail wizard. Wizard in training, we'll say.

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No, he is a cocktail wizard. Yeah. You made Malort

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taste good. Yeah, you did. That's just by punching

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down Malort with a bunch of other shit in it.

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We'll figure it out. It doesn't matter. You made

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Malort taste good. It tasted like Mountain Dew.

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I'm not joking. I mean, that's a success for

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sure. Yes, exactly. Well, of course, we can talk

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all day about what we are drinking, but we've

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come here to talk movies, and movies we shall

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talk. Andre, you are going to get us started

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with something that I will say You are free to

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spoil. So a big spoiler alert right now. Okay.

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Because I have had zero interest in this film.

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The only reason I've had interest is because

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you and Jill, as well as Mitchell, have seen

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it and said it's good. Yeah. I guess we should

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talk about the movie we're talking about, right?

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We're going to be talking about The Green Knight.

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I won't. I mean, honestly, when you say like,

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oh, feel free to spoil it. I don't think the

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narrative beats are, like, the point of this

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movie. Does that make sense? Like, I can just

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give you the plot summary, and that's, like,

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0 % of the reason why I enjoy this movie so much.

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Does that make sense? So, as somebody who has

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seen the trailer, he basically just needs to

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get revenge on this thing? Sure. Okay, so the

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synopsis is, so this is based off of the classic,

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like, Sir Gawain's tale, right? Okay. So this

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is, like, a medieval... Fairy tale's not the

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right word, but... It's one of King Arthur's...

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Arthurian legend. Arthurian legend, yes. And

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so the whole synopsis of this is that Gawain,

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he's a knight or a knight -to -be in King Arthur's

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court, and one day on Christmas Eve, I believe...

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It's a Christmas movie. Yeah, it's a Christmas

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movie. Christmas movie, okay. Though it's not

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hard. The mysterious figure called the Green

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Knight shows up and challenges... king arthur

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to have any one of his knights strike him and

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the deal is is that whoever gives strikes him

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he will strike back uh one year hence so uh gawain

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eager to prove himself uh basically decapitates

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the green knight the green knight cackles picks

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up his head sleepy hollow style and says one

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year hence and then rides off cackling so the

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bulk of this movie and the bulk of the tale is

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sir gawain leaving camelot to confront the green

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knight one year after that happened right um

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okay so yeah uh like i said narratively it's

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not going to be like oh man there's like all

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these huge plot twists and all these betrayals

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and whoa you know um off the top this is not

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game of thrones I feel like people are coming

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to this movie thinking that, oh, it's dark, it's

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fantasy, it's quote -unquote grounded. That means

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it's going to be kind of like United Thrones,

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right? Not at all. No. There is zero action in

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this movie. There is zero fight scenes in this

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movie. The most violent scene is probably when

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Gawain first fights the Green Knight. Oh, so,

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like, it's, what, 20 minutes into the film, this

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is the most violent we get? It's, like, a half

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hour into the film. The most action we get, we'll

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say, right? How long is the runtime on this?

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Over two hours. A little bit over. I didn't feel

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it, though. I mean, I felt it, and I didn't feel

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it. I didn't come out of that movie being like,

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wow, that was a little long. No, like, it was

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a journey, and it felt earned, as it were, right?

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Nice, okay. Yeah. So this whole entire movie

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is about kind of what does it mean to be a knight?

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So the whole idea is that Gawain kills the green

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knight and all of Camelot like kind of praises

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that it's going to apply these to praise as a

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hero, but he doesn't feel like he's earned it.

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So, so, uh, you know, Dev Patel, he plays Gawain,

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and he definitely kind of sells that. One of

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my favorite scenes in the movie, one of my favorite

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shots, oh, my God. This is a classic, like, super

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long shots. Loves to linger in all of the landscapes

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as Gawain travels. And my favorite of these shots

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is right when Gawain is leaving Camelot to go.

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He's riding on horseback. He has his big, bright

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yellow sash and, you know. uh king arthur has

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like made him kind of swear an oath of honor

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to go and confront the the green knight um and

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so he's leaving camelot and uh you kind of like

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see like he's just kind of looking off solemnly

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into the distance and these kids are kind of

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following up behind him chasing after him like

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the wayne whoa we love you You're the best, Gawain.

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Yeah, yeah. And, like, he totally ignores them,

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just trying to be stoic. And as soon as he kind

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of, I mean, he's looking kind of determined and

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stoic. And as soon as the kids kind of give up

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and know that, like, oh, he's not going to pay

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attention to us, and they start walking back,

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you can see the blood kind of drain from his

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face almost a little bit. And you can see the

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kind of emotions that, like, wow, like, I'm so

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terrified of this. I'm way over my head on this.

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Okay. Yeah, it's just a lot of kind of wordless

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storytelling kind of like that. Nice. And Dev

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Patel is a great pick for that. Oh, dude. I mean,

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like this movie would not work if he wasn't as

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talented of an actor as he is. He carries so

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many of the scenes because it really, you are,

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he is the perspective character. You do not leave

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his perspective at all. Okay. If I can add, you

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really, besides him being just like a fantastic

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actor, he really sells Gawain or Garwin. You

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know, it's Arthurian English. Well, what's funny

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is that the characters pronounce it different

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ways, too. King Arthur says Garwin, and most

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other people say Gawain in the movie. I love

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that they, like, didn't say it. Yeah, yeah. Anyways.

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So, the... tying into his character how he's

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not a knight. He wants to be. He's the king's

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nephew. King Arthur's sister is Morgan Le Fay.

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I don't know if we ever actually get her name

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dropped, but that's who it's supposed to be.

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So, you know, he's... When the movie starts,

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you know, he wants to be a knight, but, you know,

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he's this young 20 -something guy living his

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life, spending most of his times in brothels

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with his sweetheart, dreaming about, you know,

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slaying dragons and whatnot. But what does he

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really know about actually being a knight? And

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then when the Green Knight comes... um the challenge

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is thrown down and he acts upon it he chops off

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his head and then it's you know you have one

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year and what andre can say is that the town

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like celebrates his victory yes right like a

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whole year there's a puppet show that's telling

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the story over and over again okay yeah and um

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you know i it it's it's so there's a lot of things

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said with no dialogue And like hats off to the

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director with that. And also just this movie

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is stunning. Chris Lowry is his name? Yeah, Chris

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Lowry. David Lowry. Sorry, David Lowry. Mitchell

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was talking really highly of another Lowry film,

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I think called A Ghost Story. A Ghost Story,

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yes. That's why I feel bad that we're not talking

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about this movie with Mitchell because it is

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honestly a classic A24 movie. And the plan was

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to be with Mitchell. Yeah. Totally understand

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like this. we're still talking about the movies

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we're talking about because we had planned to

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do it with Mitchell. So we'll, we'll get his

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thoughts. I want him to listen to the episode

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and then we'll do like at the beginning of the

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next episode, the Mitchell recap where he's like,

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here's his thoughts. Boom, boom, boom, boom,

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boom. Mitchell recap. I like that. Yeah. There's.

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Going into tying into what Andre was saying,

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this is not Game of Thrones. This movie is a

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very slow -burning candle. Yes, fair. The most

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gory scene is right at the beginning. Everything

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else is long, simmering, right under the surface.

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But I think if you watched the trailer and you

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thought, this looks like a really cool alternative

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take to an Arthurian legend. I'm loving the atmosphere

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and the ambiance. go see it if you looked at

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that and were thinking game of thrones or you

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know robin hood yeah you're not this is not this

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is not robin hood well and what's funny about

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this is like you guys are saying there's no action

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or anything like that or not not no action but

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like no like sword fights kind of stuff yeah

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we saw a preview for this when we saw fast nine

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I know we did. You're right. They did. They did

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play that beforehand. No. So it feels like it

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kind of was like poorly set up because you're

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like, Oh, I'm going into dumb action. You know,

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it's a, it's another, you know, it's, it's a,

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it's a, it's another movie that does well on

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the big screen, I guess. Right. You know, cause

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I will say at the top, like the, this movie is

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gorgeous and I'm glad that I saw it on a big

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screen, you know? But yeah, no, it couldn't be

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more farther away from the appeal of fast nine,

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you know, like there. Completely opposite in

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terms of goals. I'm also laughing because he

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said, yeah, no. Yeah. I apologize now. My dad

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hates, yeah, no. Yeah, no. As a statement? Yes.

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I mean, yeah, because it makes no sense. Yeah.

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Yeah, no. Yeah, it's oxymoronic. Yeah. And so,

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no. Oh, God. He hates that statement. And so

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whenever anybody says it. I'd never call anybody

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out on it, but because we're on a podcast where

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we talk, I have to say something about it. Literally,

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it just made me smile when he said, yeah, no,

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because immediately I'm just like, God damn it,

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Dan. No, yeah. No, yeah. um so yeah i mean like

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the basically like the the most the bulk of this

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movie is gawain on his way to trying to confront

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the green knight and uh he kind of it's about

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him kind of passing or encountering these various

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uh chivalrous trials we'll call them right oh

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yeah and what i like about this movie is that

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he sort of passes them sort of does it yeah you

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know And it's very extremely murky. This movie

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like does not give you any straight answers.

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It kind of leaves the actual narrative beats

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at arm's length. And in a way, this is going

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to sound dumb and reductive, but I just got to

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speak to all the gamers out here. All right.

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You have played and enjoyed. the narrative of

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dark souls or any other souls yeah right there

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it is you might be into this because it's kind

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of it gave me a similar kind of vibe where with

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in dark souls i mean obviously dark souls was

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inspired by gawayne's tale not the other way

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around right right um And but I kind of felt

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similarly to trying to piece together narrative

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in that dark, grounded fantasy world by like,

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OK, what really happened here? Like, you have

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to kind of piece a lot of stuff together yourself.

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And if you kind of like that aspect of it, I

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kind of felt that similar way watching this movie.

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And it kind of it's a movie that kind of begs

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to be rewatched, I would say. Thus, another reason

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why I had no interest. Have you ever seen the

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movie Mirror Mask? or ever heard of the movie

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mirror mask okay it has nothing to do with the

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green knight they're very different films but

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mirror mask is a really atmospheric fantasy film

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that is all about the imagery and the long shots

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and the story is just wackadoo okay you're it's

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really told by the imagery and the symbolism

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and the metaphors of all of that. And The Green

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Knight is metaphor the film. Everything is a

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metaphor or a symbol. I don't want to say an

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allegory. Yeah, okay. But there's a lot of that.

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So if you like investigating meaning in film

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and you already like the arthouse slow burn types,

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this is like... This is a goldmine for that.

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If he starts feeling sad and the scenery turns

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blue, my English teacher would love it. Got it.

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I don't, blue is not really used in, there's

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cognizant choices for color. No, yeah, yeah.

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Okay, all right. Yeah, yeah, no, I, yeah. Okay,

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all right. One last final. One last final shout

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-out to wrap this up. I've got to say, I love

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the soundtrack to this movie as well. Again,

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not your typical fantasy affair. There's no harps,

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there's no lutes, there's no horns. It's all

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very atmospheric. There's a lot of choir singing

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in it. I think the soundtrack is by Daniel Hart.

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One of my favorite tracks is when the Green Knight

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appears, and there's this kind of synthetic...

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almost like a horror inspired track with like

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this weird whooshing, you know, it feels almost

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like a machine like whooshing over. Yeah. I think

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it's called. Let me look at the track real quick.

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It's called, yeah, One Year Hence. That's the

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track I'm thinking of. Okay. It absolutely adds

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to the tension of the scene because there's so

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many long shots of just the Green Knight staring

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at Arthur, who's staring at the Green Knight,

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who's staring at the Queen, who's staring at

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Gawain. Guinevere? Guinevere, yes, sorry. Guinevere,

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okay, yeah. then the soundtrack kind of really

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ties the scene together. So this Daniel Hart,

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I just pulled him up, and it seems like he's

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worked on all of these David Lowery films. Which

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makes sense. Which makes sense. So he's a composer

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for at least four of them right now that I can

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see. He also was the composer for Smilf. What?

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Okay. What is Smilf? What is that? Do I want

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to know? Smilf was a TV series. No, well, so

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that's Single Mom? Single mom. Oh, my God. A

00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:35.059
single 20 -something mom struggles to find a

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happy work -life balance. Yeah. And it's Frankie

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Shaw. Really, what we need to thank Smell for

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is Samara Weaving was in it. Wow. Okay, I can

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thank that now. Yes. And so, I mean, like Rosie

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O'Donnell was in this. Jesus Christ. Connie Britton.

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What the hell was this cast? But really, I just

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found it funny because like I'm seeing all these

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things. I'm like Green Knight, Ghost Story, The

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Old Man, Pete's Dragon, and then Smilf. Smilf.

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Smilf. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. No, no. It's all good.

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This is, so I guess. We'll just put a bow on

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it. I don't have to give my rating on this, right?

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You do, yes. I'm encouraging Jill to give a rating.

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It's tough because I feel like you need to watch

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it again because I really like this movie. It

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could go up or down, but my gut feeling is that

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it would go up. I'm going to stick it in at a

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four. Um, gooey rags out of five. Oh, don't talk

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to me about that. Oh God. Don't worry about it.

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Okay. Okay. Um, I would, I would give it something

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in the fours. I would give it a 4 .2, uh, headless,

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um, headless lady. Headless lady. Okay. All right.

00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:03.559
Um, well, you guys were saying this is basically

00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:06.299
metaphor of the movie. Basically. I'm gonna do

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a movie that just beats you over the head and

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there's no metaphor. Oh, is it a movie about

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family? Uh, it does have family. Found family?

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Huh? Found family? Uh, yeah, kind of. Is it about

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a man's chivalrous journey? Uh... chivalrous

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journey, I guess? No, not really. Not about a

00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:32.980
knight, but a king! Anyway, sorry. Yes, about

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a king. Don't even at this point, because now

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we've got a whole conversation here. We do, we

00:19:39.619 --> 00:19:42.599
do. So, we're going to talk about Space Jam,

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A New Legacy. Space Jam, A New Legacy. If you

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don't know, I mean, you should know. Come on,

00:19:50.259 --> 00:19:54.099
it's Space Jam, but just with LeBron James. I

00:19:54.099 --> 00:19:59.460
guess better CGI? Yeah. The original didn't even

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have, like, it had CGI, but, like, the charm.

00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:06.259
The charm. Okay, the charm and the, okay, sure.

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Charm and CGI are two very different things.

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Exactly. CGI is cold and heartless. Charm is

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heartless, or heartful and warm, I guess. Yeah.

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Yeah, I don't know. So, LeBron James, obviously,

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taking over the mantle for Michael Jordan, the

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goat. that goes into the interwebs of WB characters.

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It's not even the interwebs of regular things.

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It's just Warner Brothers. It's Warner Brothers

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the movie. It's a commercial for Warner Brothers.

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It's Wreck -It Ralph Breaks the Internet. Yeah,

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that's a good call. Yeah, I've been sitting on

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that for a while. Wow, this is that movie, isn't

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it? Holy shit. Yeah, and when I saw Ralph Breaks

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the Internet, yes, I felt it. but not as much

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is what I will say. You're right about that,

00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:04.579
though. Yeah. So him and his son are at odds.

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They each go into the interwebs of WB World and

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Algae Rhythm. Played by one. Played by Don Cheadle.

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Don Cheadle. I just. Chewing on that scenery.

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I need to knock him now. because i can't knock

00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:24.960
him later so algae rhythm and it is literally

00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:29.460
rhythm not not like an algorithm it's like rhythm

00:21:29.460 --> 00:21:33.119
like beat yeah what i don't have is a white boy

00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:35.339
dancing right now what else would it be though

00:21:35.339 --> 00:21:39.599
right yeah right exactly um so let's talk about

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the good before we get into the bad well there's

00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:46.750
good there's good don cheeto was very good As

00:21:46.750 --> 00:21:49.210
good as he could be. He was the MVP of the movie.

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I think that is a fair statement. Pulling a lot

00:21:52.250 --> 00:21:54.890
of scenery. Yep. And we will also talk about

00:21:54.890 --> 00:21:59.089
the one Michael Jordan joke that is the best

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line of the whole movie. Yep. When they say they

00:22:02.369 --> 00:22:04.650
found Michael Jordan and he needs to help them

00:22:04.650 --> 00:22:06.890
at halftime and it's Michael B. Jordan eating

00:22:06.890 --> 00:22:09.789
popcorn and just glorious in his dream. Yeah,

00:22:09.809 --> 00:22:11.950
no, that was funny. I'll give them the film that.

00:22:12.549 --> 00:22:14.970
Yes. So I think that's where the good stops.

00:22:16.470 --> 00:22:19.950
I mean, they also showed the block, you know,

00:22:19.990 --> 00:22:22.349
when LeBron James blocked Andre Iguodala. That

00:22:22.349 --> 00:22:26.650
was pretty good. I liked seeing Pennywise the

00:22:26.650 --> 00:22:30.230
clown in the crowd shots. That was fun. But it

00:22:30.230 --> 00:22:32.970
wasn't real Pennywise? Because we do need to

00:22:32.970 --> 00:22:35.829
address those characters behind the bench. Oh,

00:22:35.849 --> 00:22:39.130
yeah. They could do it, so they did do it. Yeah,

00:22:39.150 --> 00:22:42.609
so those were always the things that drove me

00:22:42.609 --> 00:22:45.519
nuts. um that was that was probably the biggest

00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:47.299
thing that drove me nuts about this movie was

00:22:47.299 --> 00:22:50.579
the fact that the fake characters were behind

00:22:50.579 --> 00:22:54.059
them where it was like brand name characters

00:22:54.059 --> 00:22:58.000
where you realize it's i gotta pull it up now

00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:04.119
um uh all right sorry i'm looking it up now as

00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:07.240
we speak but it was it was like brand name characters

00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:12.400
that were behind the bench of the What was even

00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:14.640
the team? It wasn't the Monstars. Oh, no, they

00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:19.559
were called... Oh, God. Yeah, right. Not the

00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:23.299
Doom Squad. Oh, they were named after the kids'

00:23:23.500 --> 00:23:28.380
video game, wasn't it? Space Jam. Maybe. I don't

00:23:28.380 --> 00:23:30.619
even remember. I think Michael B. Jordan is the

00:23:30.619 --> 00:23:32.700
second casting person that comes up when I search

00:23:32.700 --> 00:23:34.380
it. Yeah, because they needed to get him in there.

00:23:34.500 --> 00:23:37.579
The Goon Squad. Goon Squad, that's it. It's not

00:23:37.579 --> 00:23:40.160
the Toon Squad, it's the Goon Squad. Get it.

00:23:40.859 --> 00:23:43.259
I can't find a picture behind the bench, but

00:23:43.259 --> 00:23:46.019
I do find a picture behind the tune squads bench.

00:23:46.579 --> 00:23:50.000
See if I can see who's in this picture, but there's

00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:51.579
like so many characters that you're just like,

00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:54.200
I recognize, but it's such a cheap knockoff.

00:23:54.779 --> 00:23:58.200
Yeah. Yep. And that's what always drove me nuts

00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:02.480
about this whole thing was just, they have these

00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:04.240
characters and everything like that. And obviously

00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:08.480
they can't get. the actors back. Especially if

00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:11.039
they were big name actors. Which I'm okay with.

00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:15.299
I'm okay with that. They just look so awful.

00:24:16.259 --> 00:24:18.940
You didn't like watching the Animaniacs sitting

00:24:18.940 --> 00:24:21.859
there doing absolutely nothing? Absolutely nothing.

00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:25.740
That was infuriating to me. They have all these

00:24:25.740 --> 00:24:28.539
people that get sucked into the internet and

00:24:28.539 --> 00:24:30.660
yet the people that they have right behind them

00:24:30.660 --> 00:24:34.359
are the fakest of fake. That was my biggest talking

00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:36.839
point about the movie um because it was just

00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:41.460
so frustrating with that um the players themselves

00:24:41.460 --> 00:24:45.259
fine anthony davis is the brow eagle thing was

00:24:45.259 --> 00:24:48.920
pretty funny yeah i like that i did laugh at

00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:54.349
that um i don't know man I didn't know that they

00:24:54.349 --> 00:24:57.750
called LeBron James King James. That was a word

00:24:57.750 --> 00:25:00.869
to me that you didn't know that. I didn't know

00:25:00.869 --> 00:25:03.509
that. So when the, you know, algorithm was saying,

00:25:03.609 --> 00:25:05.069
I was like, Andre, is he going to keep calling

00:25:05.069 --> 00:25:07.190
him that the whole movie? And you're like, yeah,

00:25:07.250 --> 00:25:09.069
that's what people call him. And I'm like, really?

00:25:09.470 --> 00:25:12.589
Yeah. That's his nickname. Didn't know that.

00:25:12.809 --> 00:25:17.920
Now I do. I hate it. Thanks. I would say. A,

00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:19.920
this is totally random, but I never got over

00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:22.220
the fact that that wasn't his real family. As

00:25:22.220 --> 00:25:26.720
much as the movie focused on LeBron's family,

00:25:27.299 --> 00:25:29.819
I know what they look like. We know what they

00:25:29.819 --> 00:25:31.799
look like. That's not them. It's just weird.

00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:34.480
I think the first spaceship did a good job of

00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:36.599
like, okay, yes, it's not Michael Jordan's real

00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:38.440
family or whatever, but they're not the focus

00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:40.400
of the movie at all. Exactly. They're not the

00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:43.660
point. Yeah. Like, we have his kid the entire

00:25:43.660 --> 00:25:46.200
time, and it's not his kid. Right, right. And

00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:48.140
I'm not saying, like, oh, they should have gotten

00:25:48.140 --> 00:25:50.839
his real kid to do it. No, that's not the solution.

00:25:50.980 --> 00:25:53.920
Although I will say that kid's part, I think,

00:25:53.940 --> 00:25:55.859
could have been handled by LeBron James' kid.

00:25:55.980 --> 00:25:57.779
Bronny Jr. could have probably handled that.

00:25:57.779 --> 00:25:59.799
Could have acted that. Well, Bronny Jr. is too

00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:01.980
old, right? Brian Jr. is the one in high school.

00:26:02.059 --> 00:26:04.140
It would be what's the younger one? He still

00:26:04.140 --> 00:26:06.259
would have been in camp. Yeah, that's true. You're

00:26:06.259 --> 00:26:07.960
right. You're right. I think Brownie Jr. could

00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:09.819
have been – I think he could have done it. I

00:26:09.819 --> 00:26:11.839
really do. I know they were trying to make him

00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:14.460
look younger probably to appeal to cartoons maybe.

00:26:14.579 --> 00:26:17.640
That's the reason? Yeah. Okay. Maybe that's it.

00:26:17.740 --> 00:26:19.599
But, I mean, Brownie Jr. could have probably

00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:23.500
handled that role because he's had to act like

00:26:23.500 --> 00:26:25.619
he's not in his father's shadow for however long.

00:26:26.660 --> 00:26:31.019
Well, you know. Yeah. Well, so I brought this

00:26:31.019 --> 00:26:33.460
point up to you guys before, and I just want

00:26:33.460 --> 00:26:38.700
to bring it up again. Before this movie, obviously

00:26:38.700 --> 00:26:42.859
I'm a Chicago guy. I love Chicago. I love everything

00:26:42.859 --> 00:26:44.799
in Chicago. Michael Jordan is the GOAT because

00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:47.960
I am biased. And I never have denied that. And

00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:53.880
I don't think anybody would say that I have denied

00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:57.220
that I'm biased about it. Yeah. Up until this

00:26:57.220 --> 00:26:59.819
movie, I would say LeBron was the better actor.

00:27:00.380 --> 00:27:05.269
Oh, man. Wow. Up until. Up until. Because he

00:27:05.269 --> 00:27:07.269
was in Trainwreck, and yes, he was a smaller

00:27:07.269 --> 00:27:09.670
part, but he was actually my favorite part of

00:27:09.670 --> 00:27:11.569
Trainwreck, even though Trainwreck was a decent

00:27:11.569 --> 00:27:13.710
movie. He had good comedic timing. I need to

00:27:13.710 --> 00:27:16.150
see Trainwreck. Trainwreck's great. I have it

00:27:16.150 --> 00:27:17.910
on DVD if you want to borrow it, really. Maybe

00:27:17.910 --> 00:27:22.170
Bill Hader brought a lot out of him, I don't

00:27:22.170 --> 00:27:25.750
know. Maybe, yeah. They worked really well together.

00:27:25.930 --> 00:27:29.829
It was obvious to me, LeBron was the better actor

00:27:29.829 --> 00:27:35.059
than MJ. Now? Yeah. It's a question again. It's

00:27:35.059 --> 00:27:38.339
rough, man. It's a question again. The hardest

00:27:38.339 --> 00:27:40.559
part was getting through all the voice acting

00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:43.059
when it's Judy LeBron, when it's animated LeBron

00:27:43.059 --> 00:27:45.339
and they're recruiting everybody. That was just

00:27:45.339 --> 00:27:48.539
rough. I mean, I'm sorry. And, you know, voice

00:27:48.539 --> 00:27:51.660
acting is hard. It's not the same. skill set

00:27:51.660 --> 00:27:55.380
as acting, right? It's tough. Also, you can't

00:27:55.380 --> 00:27:58.359
lay it at just the voice actor's feet. It could

00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:01.220
be also the voice acting direction. We don't

00:28:01.220 --> 00:28:04.259
know. We can also say this entire movie was not

00:28:04.259 --> 00:28:08.160
as good as anybody expected it to be. And that

00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:11.680
could be because of the direction. I don't know.

00:28:12.380 --> 00:28:14.640
Do you think everyone was disappointed by this

00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:17.339
movie? I know some people that had no expectations

00:28:17.339 --> 00:28:18.759
of this movie and I don't think they were bent.

00:28:18.940 --> 00:28:22.009
You know? I don't know. I want to go back to

00:28:22.009 --> 00:28:23.509
the voice acting thing because I want to see

00:28:23.509 --> 00:28:27.789
Zendaya as Lola. Oh, yeah. And this is not a

00:28:27.789 --> 00:28:29.990
knock against Zendaya as an actress. I think

00:28:29.990 --> 00:28:32.069
Zendaya is great. I love her personality. I like

00:28:32.069 --> 00:28:34.990
her fashion sense. I think she is a great, great

00:28:34.990 --> 00:28:36.730
talent to have. You want to see Zendaya in more

00:28:36.730 --> 00:28:39.630
things. But, yeah, put Zendaya in more things.

00:28:39.670 --> 00:28:43.490
I love her as Mary Jane. But she is not a voice

00:28:43.490 --> 00:28:46.789
actress. And I, after we watched the movie, I

00:28:46.789 --> 00:28:49.589
did some, you know, my classic IMDb. scooping

00:28:49.589 --> 00:28:53.789
of the she voices lola just for yeah just for

00:28:53.789 --> 00:28:56.430
reference zendaya voices lola i found out that

00:28:56.430 --> 00:28:59.829
they actually had a actual voice actress do most

00:28:59.829 --> 00:29:03.170
of lola's dialogue recorded because there's other

00:29:03.170 --> 00:29:05.690
there's there's animated looney tunes shows going

00:29:05.690 --> 00:29:07.849
on right now aren't there yeah uh maybe not right

00:29:07.849 --> 00:29:10.569
now but there were okay they're in and out anyway

00:29:10.569 --> 00:29:14.109
um they had a voice actress do all of most of

00:29:14.109 --> 00:29:16.849
those vocal parts And then in post -production,

00:29:16.990 --> 00:29:19.549
they brought in Zendaya and she dubbed all over

00:29:19.549 --> 00:29:22.750
it. Interesting. Why? Yeah, interesting. Why

00:29:22.750 --> 00:29:26.190
do that when they're not a trained voice actor

00:29:26.190 --> 00:29:28.730
and it translates into a performance where I

00:29:28.730 --> 00:29:33.809
just don't buy it? Yeah. Yeah. And again, we

00:29:33.809 --> 00:29:37.609
know Zendaya is a great actress. Again, does

00:29:37.609 --> 00:29:41.190
this come down to direction? You're exactly right

00:29:41.190 --> 00:29:43.329
about that because we all want to see her in

00:29:43.329 --> 00:29:47.589
more things. We all love her in, I would think

00:29:47.589 --> 00:29:51.769
all of us agree, MJ, for sure. But there's other

00:29:51.769 --> 00:29:55.490
things that we love her in. I haven't seen it

00:29:55.490 --> 00:29:57.750
myself, but everybody tells me how great she

00:29:57.750 --> 00:30:01.329
is in Euphoria. It makes me want to watch the

00:30:01.329 --> 00:30:04.410
show because of how great I know she is in it.

00:30:06.299 --> 00:30:09.759
Yeah. I also am looking at the cast. Gabriel

00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:13.819
Iglesias. I love Gabriel Iglesias. Oh, man. He

00:30:13.819 --> 00:30:15.420
was Speedy Gonzalez, wasn't he? He was Speedy

00:30:15.420 --> 00:30:18.859
Gonzalez. Oh, wow. See, like, this film had good

00:30:18.859 --> 00:30:22.140
voice actors who can do the performance, but

00:30:22.140 --> 00:30:25.440
then the other... It's like, you know, why...

00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:29.059
Imagine if Bugs Bunny was voiced by Ryan Reynolds.

00:30:30.019 --> 00:30:32.799
Like, yeah, he can do a voice character. Ryan

00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.200
Reynolds is a great Pikachu, but, like... He's

00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:39.539
not Bugs. Also, by the way, I hated whoever voiced

00:30:39.539 --> 00:30:42.880
Bugs. It wasn't right. I'm looking that up now.

00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:46.039
Speedy Gonzales had like three lines in that

00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:48.380
movie because I think they were worried about

00:30:48.380 --> 00:30:53.099
him. Exactly, yes. Jeff Bergman. Jeff Bergman

00:30:53.099 --> 00:30:57.059
was Bugs Bunny. Bunny Bunny. Bunny Bunny. Yes,

00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.660
exactly. Bunny Bunny. And, I mean, yes, I agree

00:31:00.660 --> 00:31:02.440
with you. It wasn't right. I would have rather

00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:05.099
seen Gabriel Iglesias as Speedy Gonzalez than

00:31:05.099 --> 00:31:08.839
Jeff Bergman as Bugs Bunny. Okay, but Jeff's...

00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:11.640
Okay, I'm looking at this... He was a lot of

00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.960
things. Well, he... Jeff Bergman was the first

00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.599
person to replace Mel Blanc, so he's the second...

00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:20.140
Bugs Bunny voices. Yeah, I know, but it's similar

00:31:20.140 --> 00:31:22.559
to how whenever Jim Cummings steps down to Winnie

00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:24.440
the Pooh, Winnie the Pooh is not going to sound

00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:28.819
right to me. How many episodes have you seen

00:31:28.819 --> 00:31:32.279
of the new Looney Tunes? None. How many have

00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:35.759
you seen? None. Because reasons. I just want

00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:38.839
to say, he also voiced Bugs Bunny in the first

00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:42.579
Space Jam. He sounded different. Okay, Jill.

00:31:42.779 --> 00:31:45.599
Alright, sure. you know what it's like it's it's

00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:47.299
it's from all the years of watching muppet stuff

00:31:47.299 --> 00:31:49.980
it's like i know when the voice actors are different

00:31:49.980 --> 00:31:53.700
and even this your voice changes when you get

00:31:53.700 --> 00:31:57.720
older so he's older it doesn't sound like bugs

00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:02.559
oh okay but he all right sure I will say, I didn't

00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:05.140
have as much of a problem with bugs, so I get

00:32:05.140 --> 00:32:07.319
it. I like that he was appalled when they went

00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.559
from 2D to CGI. Yeah, they didn't really explore

00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:14.460
that part. It was kind of implied that the Looney

00:32:14.460 --> 00:32:16.299
Tunes characters were in great pain to be in

00:32:16.299 --> 00:32:19.619
CGI for the basketball game, and they didn't

00:32:19.619 --> 00:32:21.279
really touch on that too much. It sure seems

00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:22.980
like they got over it quickly, though. They did,

00:32:23.140 --> 00:32:26.140
yeah. Exactly. I also didn't like the scoring

00:32:26.140 --> 00:32:28.140
system where the scores were all over the place.

00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:32.079
The style points? Yeah. I will say in the first

00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:34.859
one, they didn't care about score. So it's not

00:32:34.859 --> 00:32:37.099
like I'm comparing the two at all. It's just

00:32:37.099 --> 00:32:40.039
more so I just don't care for style points. Style

00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:41.839
points are so biased. That's why I don't watch

00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:45.500
the slam dunk contest anymore. You know, because

00:32:45.500 --> 00:32:47.440
it's just, I mean, it's all biased and everything

00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:51.460
like that. But I'm getting distracted. We're

00:32:51.460 --> 00:32:58.160
talking. Putting a fine -tooth comb to a shit

00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:00.500
pile. And we're trying to find the corn nuggets

00:33:00.500 --> 00:33:02.640
in it. Do you think they'll make another one

00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:07.160
one day with the next great basketball guy or

00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:12.819
woman? So I say no. But at the same time, it

00:33:12.819 --> 00:33:14.859
would not shock me if Warner Brothers was just

00:33:14.859 --> 00:33:16.940
like, well, this worked the first time. Let's

00:33:16.940 --> 00:33:19.859
just bring it up again because we've got Cade

00:33:19.859 --> 00:33:22.599
Cunningham. No, I don't think this movie is going

00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:27.099
to. Like, did it make money? Like, it's hard

00:33:27.099 --> 00:33:31.539
because it's COVID times. I will say, Space Jam,

00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:34.180
the first one, is also not a good movie either,

00:33:34.380 --> 00:33:36.940
you know? Like, it was made from a commercial.

00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.339
It was based off of a commercial, you know what

00:33:39.339 --> 00:33:41.740
I mean? Yeah, and it only could have been made

00:33:41.740 --> 00:33:44.539
in 1990. It only could have come out in 1996,

00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:47.599
and it's a wonderful time capsule of that year.

00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:51.700
Yes, it is an artifact of its time. It aged like

00:33:51.700 --> 00:33:58.319
cheese. good cheese I have no problem with the

00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:00.880
original Space Jam I have no problem with the

00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.720
original Space Jam either like I said Mitchell

00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:08.860
is somewhere turning in his sick bed we already

00:34:08.860 --> 00:34:15.690
put him in the grave Jesus Mitchell's dead somewhere.

00:34:15.710 --> 00:34:19.989
Mitchell is not dead. Oh, no. Oh, my God. I really

00:34:19.989 --> 00:34:22.010
do hope he listens to this episode. This is why

00:34:22.010 --> 00:34:24.650
we need the Mitchell recap. We need to listen

00:34:24.650 --> 00:34:27.929
to this episode and just be like, not dead. Still

00:34:27.929 --> 00:34:34.090
here, guys. So, I guess it comes to review. Numbers.

00:34:35.869 --> 00:34:41.829
1 .5. I don't know. What am I even missing? WB,

00:34:41.909 --> 00:34:48.309
poorly rendered. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah,

00:34:48.369 --> 00:34:50.449
because it's Warner Brothers the movie. I don't

00:34:50.449 --> 00:34:54.309
know. Yeah. I probably would not have seen this

00:34:54.309 --> 00:34:57.769
just in theaters because it was on HBO Max and

00:34:57.769 --> 00:35:00.070
I had an afternoon. I watched it. Right. I was

00:35:00.070 --> 00:35:01.409
going to ask you, would you have paid to see

00:35:01.409 --> 00:35:03.789
this? No, I would not have. That's why you can't

00:35:03.789 --> 00:35:06.110
be too bad at this movie. I didn't pay 13 bucks

00:35:06.110 --> 00:35:09.389
for it. I would have either. watched it the way

00:35:09.389 --> 00:35:12.269
I did or if it was just in theaters I would have

00:35:12.269 --> 00:35:14.710
waited until it got on HBO Max and then finally

00:35:14.710 --> 00:35:16.969
like cracked it open on a weekend where I was

00:35:16.969 --> 00:35:20.769
just bored out of my mind sorry but that's I

00:35:20.769 --> 00:35:25.329
had no interest in the sequel even I feel like

00:35:25.329 --> 00:35:29.050
I'm shitting on LeBron I know I can respect LeBron

00:35:30.730 --> 00:35:33.409
It's just the fact that this movie should not

00:35:33.409 --> 00:35:35.429
have existed no matter who it was. If it was

00:35:35.429 --> 00:35:38.030
Dwayne Wade, who I like better because he's a

00:35:38.030 --> 00:35:40.730
Chicago kid, I still probably would have hated

00:35:40.730 --> 00:35:42.949
this movie. Right. No, no, no. I mean, like,

00:35:42.949 --> 00:35:45.630
I'm a fucking LeBron stan. I'm a Cleveland fan,

00:35:45.789 --> 00:35:47.809
and I'll always stan LeBron for forever. But

00:35:47.809 --> 00:35:50.750
I did not like this movie. It's also a 1 .5 for

00:35:50.750 --> 00:35:54.110
me. 1 .25. I don't even know. I was bored. The

00:35:54.110 --> 00:35:56.369
first one's better. Yeah. I'll give it a 1 point.

00:35:57.099 --> 00:36:01.639
1 .4. I liked seeing the world like the Ralph

00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:03.320
Breaks the Internet part where they basically

00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:06.300
do the scene, the Disney scene, but universal.

00:36:06.659 --> 00:36:09.519
That was cool with that. That was fine. I actually

00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:11.480
would have preferred if that was more of the

00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:15.380
movie. It was cool seeing all the properties

00:36:15.380 --> 00:36:17.179
because, you know, hey, they got to remind you

00:36:17.179 --> 00:36:20.139
they own Casablanca now. Maybe they always have.

00:36:20.380 --> 00:36:22.960
But it was so distracting and some of the choices

00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:26.960
like Pennywise being right there. Yeah. This

00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:30.360
is a kid's movie. What the fuck? What is Pennywise

00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.019
just hanging out? I guess he likes basketball.

00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:34.719
Yeah, who is this movie for? Yeah, exactly. Who

00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:37.420
is this movie for? Sports fans? Yeah. Classic

00:36:37.420 --> 00:36:40.360
movie fans? Kids? So I compare this movie to

00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:42.440
a heist movie where they're trying to get the

00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:44.420
gang back together and, you know, it's the you

00:36:44.420 --> 00:36:47.599
son of a bitch I'm in moment, but they didn't

00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:50.599
have enough of the crew assembly. I think they

00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:53.440
could have explored their worlds more, like where

00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:55.260
they're like, oh, we're in the Wonder Woman world

00:36:55.260 --> 00:36:58.769
more. Where Lola Bunny is competing to be an

00:36:58.769 --> 00:37:02.590
Amazon. That was the longest part of those. But

00:37:02.590 --> 00:37:04.469
still, I think they could have done a little

00:37:04.469 --> 00:37:06.949
more with that. Versus the actual game. Because

00:37:06.949 --> 00:37:08.769
we didn't care about the game. We knew they were

00:37:08.769 --> 00:37:14.369
going to win. Yeah. So, well, that's one bad

00:37:14.369 --> 00:37:17.650
movie. It was accidental that we talked about

00:37:17.650 --> 00:37:20.530
two bad movies this time. But we have another

00:37:20.530 --> 00:37:24.389
bad movie. Shout out to all the people that guessed.

00:37:25.179 --> 00:37:28.019
I'll tell you who won after when we go to the

00:37:28.019 --> 00:37:30.480
commercial. But Jill, you and I had an agreement.

00:37:30.780 --> 00:37:33.119
Yeah, we did. If you lost, you were going to

00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:34.860
have to see this movie. If I lost, I was going

00:37:34.860 --> 00:37:36.880
to have to see Bratz. So obviously it worked

00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:40.500
out back to back. Yeah. So tell us the movie

00:37:40.500 --> 00:37:45.420
and your thoughts slash synopsis of it. So I

00:37:45.420 --> 00:37:49.019
watched Speed 2 Cruise Control. Cruise Control.

00:37:49.219 --> 00:37:51.400
Which was an interesting experience because I've

00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:55.239
never seen the original Speed. All of my friends

00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:57.280
who found out when I told them I was watching

00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:58.900
this, they're like, you've seen Speed, right?

00:37:59.139 --> 00:38:01.980
No? Don't you want to watch that one instead?

00:38:02.380 --> 00:38:06.119
No, it's got to be this one. You can watch Speed.

00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:10.019
I will watch Speed. It's going to happen. Yes,

00:38:10.139 --> 00:38:14.400
because Speed is really good. I love the fact

00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:17.679
that they go from a bus that has to drive this

00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:21.360
many miles per hour to a train, right? Huh? Oh,

00:38:21.380 --> 00:38:23.960
no. I now know that there's a train in Speed

00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:26.980
1. I didn't know there was a train until recently.

00:38:27.139 --> 00:38:28.860
It's been forever since I've seen this, so you're

00:38:28.860 --> 00:38:31.820
blowing my mind. There's a subway. Oh, yeah.

00:38:32.460 --> 00:38:38.699
But they go from the bus to a cruise ship? Yep.

00:38:39.860 --> 00:38:44.159
Go on. Yeah, so I called upon two of my closest

00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:46.639
grad school friends to watch this with me. So

00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:49.280
we gathered on Discord and we just all clicked

00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.300
play at the exact same time. My good friend Charlotte

00:38:52.300 --> 00:38:56.960
and Catherine. Charlotte had never seen the original

00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.739
Speed either. Catherine loves the original Speed.

00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.159
So she was more than happy to throw some dirt

00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:05.960
on this thing. And yeah, going in completely

00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:08.440
blind, I knew Sandra Bullock was in it. I knew

00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:10.440
there was a cruise ship and that was about it.

00:39:10.780 --> 00:39:17.900
So, yeah, synopsis. Jason Patrick from The Lost

00:39:17.900 --> 00:39:20.079
Boys, who plays Michael as the main character.

00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:23.159
And it was equal parts like, oh, hey, it's Michael.

00:39:23.340 --> 00:39:27.500
And, oh, he's old now. Yes. And not very good

00:39:27.500 --> 00:39:33.420
in this. No. Sandra Bullock reprising her role.

00:39:33.980 --> 00:39:37.619
from the original, we think. We had a debate

00:39:37.619 --> 00:39:40.079
about is she supposed to be the same character

00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:41.840
or is she supposed to be somebody different?

00:39:42.099 --> 00:39:44.099
Do they not reference the first movie at all?

00:39:44.139 --> 00:39:48.800
They kind of do, but they don't. Okay. They reference

00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:51.699
the fact... So Catherine did a really quick and

00:39:51.699 --> 00:39:55.179
dirty synopsis, and at one point or another in

00:39:55.179 --> 00:39:59.179
Speed Control, in Speed 2, they made a joke about

00:39:59.179 --> 00:40:02.309
how it's like, you know... two really good -looking

00:40:02.309 --> 00:40:04.889
people falling for each other because they were

00:40:04.889 --> 00:40:07.510
in intense circumstances. They made a joke that

00:40:07.510 --> 00:40:10.230
kind of tongue -in -cheek referenced that, so

00:40:10.230 --> 00:40:14.789
that's the reference to Speed 1. They may or

00:40:14.789 --> 00:40:17.409
may not have name -dropped Keanu Reeves' character,

00:40:17.610 --> 00:40:20.090
but since I didn't know what his character's

00:40:20.090 --> 00:40:25.110
name, it doesn't matter. This movie is set in

00:40:25.110 --> 00:40:29.489
the... Jack Traven. Yeah, she mentioned the name

00:40:29.489 --> 00:40:32.210
Jack. I mean, the movie opens with her trying

00:40:32.210 --> 00:40:34.730
to get her license, her driver's license, because

00:40:34.730 --> 00:40:39.050
I guess it got revoked. And, you know, going

00:40:39.050 --> 00:40:41.150
into this, it's Sandra Bullock. Like, okay, she's

00:40:41.150 --> 00:40:43.050
like the main character. She's going to do cool

00:40:43.050 --> 00:40:46.809
things. No. Her entire shtick in this movie is

00:40:46.809 --> 00:40:50.849
kind of ranting and raving and being very obsessed

00:40:50.849 --> 00:40:53.530
with, like, ignoring the problems going on so

00:40:53.530 --> 00:40:55.849
she can have a romantic time with her main squeeze.

00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:59.679
Jason Patrick, whose character is named something

00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:02.440
that I did not care to write down. Oh, no, I

00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:03.780
did write it down because it's a really stupid

00:41:03.780 --> 00:41:10.019
name. Officer Alex Shaw. Alex Shaw. So we start

00:41:10.019 --> 00:41:12.880
there. She's driving in a car. Poor driving instructor's

00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:14.679
freaking out. She's raving and ranting about

00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:17.019
something. Meanwhile, Alex Shaw is riding on

00:41:17.019 --> 00:41:19.079
a red motorcycle that just made me want to watch

00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:22.760
Power Rangers because it was color -coded. I

00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.280
also really wanted Jason Statham to pop up and

00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:27.440
just punch him in the face because that would

00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:31.739
have been so much better. It's not. And, you

00:41:31.739 --> 00:41:33.880
know, you get a nice action sequence where he's

00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:36.780
chasing down a dude. He does the job. We think

00:41:36.780 --> 00:41:39.440
he's a cop. Maybe he works for the FBI. We don't

00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:42.840
know. All done in a day's work. Sandra fails

00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.519
her driver's license. But it's okay. She's about

00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:48.420
to go on a very romantic cruise. And Alex Shaw

00:41:48.420 --> 00:41:50.840
is going to propose to her. But he needs to find

00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:54.079
the right time. So they're getting on the boat,

00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:56.280
all this fun stuff. And then the main villain

00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:59.599
pops up, played by William Defoe. I'm like, what

00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:03.519
the fuck? William Defoe's in this? Yeah. Willem?

00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:06.179
William? Willem? No, it's Willem. I'm drunk on

00:42:06.179 --> 00:42:11.300
water. Shut up. Willem Defoe pops up. I just

00:42:11.300 --> 00:42:14.239
call him Defoe, Defoe. I found all the ways to

00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:17.239
spell Defoe wrong in my little synopsis. Did

00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:20.380
you ever see How I Met Your Mother? Which part?

00:42:20.829 --> 00:42:23.250
There's a joke where Marshall talks about Willem

00:42:23.250 --> 00:42:25.690
Dafoe and how his name sounds like a frog and

00:42:25.690 --> 00:42:28.550
a parrot having a conversation. Willem. Nope,

00:42:28.590 --> 00:42:30.429
have not heard that. I don't remember that joke.

00:42:31.050 --> 00:42:33.449
Oh, it was so stupid. But for whatever reason

00:42:33.449 --> 00:42:35.090
now, whenever I think of Willem Dafoe, that's

00:42:35.090 --> 00:42:37.989
what I got. Sorry, keep going. Fun fact, Gary

00:42:37.989 --> 00:42:40.210
Oldman turned down the role that Willem Dafoe.

00:42:40.829 --> 00:42:43.110
takes on to be in Air Force One. That would have

00:42:43.110 --> 00:42:45.230
been fun, too, though. Oh, my God. No offense

00:42:45.230 --> 00:42:47.230
to Willem, but Gary Oldman also would have been

00:42:47.230 --> 00:42:48.969
really good. I think either of them are pretty

00:42:48.969 --> 00:42:52.610
good. And Willem Dafoe, no shock, is the best

00:42:52.610 --> 00:42:56.690
character in this movie. His whole deal, as we

00:42:56.690 --> 00:42:59.230
will later learn, is that he worked for the cruise

00:42:59.230 --> 00:43:02.309
company. He was very loyal. He created an AI,

00:43:02.590 --> 00:43:05.969
or not an AI, but he created the mainframe. the

00:43:05.969 --> 00:43:08.869
the smart engine behind the machine if you will

00:43:08.869 --> 00:43:12.969
and then he got sick from copper poisoning and

00:43:12.969 --> 00:43:16.650
now he's terminal and he uses leashes to suck

00:43:16.650 --> 00:43:19.530
out the copper from his blood because that's

00:43:19.530 --> 00:43:22.510
not how that works so well before we get all

00:43:22.510 --> 00:43:24.610
of that at the end of the movie me and my friends

00:43:24.610 --> 00:43:26.010
are just trying to figure out what the deal is

00:43:26.010 --> 00:43:29.530
with the leeches so we just decided that he worships

00:43:29.530 --> 00:43:31.769
the leech queen and he's going to sacrifice all

00:43:31.769 --> 00:43:36.170
the people on the boat to the leech queen Unfortunately,

00:43:36.170 --> 00:43:37.690
that does not happen, but that would have been

00:43:37.690 --> 00:43:39.869
such a better movie. You are blowing my mind

00:43:39.869 --> 00:43:42.010
with all this. I have not seen this movie in

00:43:42.010 --> 00:43:44.690
probably 10 years. I look at my watch. Wait,

00:43:44.829 --> 00:43:48.489
10 years. Okay. Sorry. It's okay. You're not

00:43:48.489 --> 00:43:51.110
missing much other than bad fashion and bad acting.

00:43:51.409 --> 00:43:53.750
So they're on the boat. They meet Willem Dafoe's

00:43:53.750 --> 00:43:57.800
character, Mr. Geiger. Yes. I don't remember

00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.079
his first name, but it's Mr. Geiger. And there's

00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.440
a joke about golfing. And then it turns out that

00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:05.420
he like smuggled all of his like weaponry in

00:44:05.420 --> 00:44:07.639
the golf clubs and the golf balls. So like the

00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.719
golf balls are grenades and smoke bombs. I think

00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:14.099
the clubs have other things in that. I'm like,

00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:16.679
okay, that's pretty clever. I like that. Let's

00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:18.519
take, let's, you know, grab that boat. Let's

00:44:18.519 --> 00:44:22.530
do it all for the leech queen. We get some wonderful

00:44:22.530 --> 00:44:25.369
hashtag hacking moments where he hacks into the

00:44:25.369 --> 00:44:30.309
cruise's mainframe. And while he's doing that,

00:44:30.690 --> 00:44:34.150
all the main characters now had a nice dinner.

00:44:34.530 --> 00:44:37.769
If you've ever seen Doctor Who, Voyage of the

00:44:37.769 --> 00:44:40.909
Damned, they had a lot of similar characters.

00:44:41.030 --> 00:44:44.690
There's the fat couple. well the fat guy eating

00:44:44.690 --> 00:44:48.710
um there's uh two p there's like a gaggle of

00:44:48.710 --> 00:44:52.269
women bickering about stuff um there's two parents

00:44:52.269 --> 00:44:54.769
with a deaf child who's actually played by an

00:44:54.769 --> 00:44:57.710
actress a child actor who i think is deaf so

00:44:57.710 --> 00:45:01.150
kudos to that except it gets a thumb down because

00:45:01.150 --> 00:45:03.610
now there's a plot moppet in this movie of course

00:45:03.610 --> 00:45:08.510
of course yeah um And in a in a move that my

00:45:08.510 --> 00:45:10.909
friends and I were kind of split between, like,

00:45:10.969 --> 00:45:15.570
is this cute, charming or creepy? Alex Shaw makes

00:45:15.570 --> 00:45:17.989
eye contact with her over dinner. And, you know,

00:45:18.010 --> 00:45:20.250
he does some ASL and she does some ASL back.

00:45:20.530 --> 00:45:22.489
So I'm like, OK, that's kind of cute. But my

00:45:22.489 --> 00:45:24.409
friend Charlotte's like, no, that's creepy. Why

00:45:24.409 --> 00:45:26.530
is he talking like why? Why is he like smirking

00:45:26.530 --> 00:45:30.369
at this 14 year old girl? This is weird. He's

00:45:30.369 --> 00:45:32.769
about to propose to Sandra Bullock. Well, no,

00:45:32.869 --> 00:45:35.639
it's like food poisoning or something. We missed

00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:37.800
whether or not he actually got food poisoning

00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:41.980
or if he lost the ring. Oh, my God. How does

00:45:41.980 --> 00:45:44.880
Giuliano fit in this? You may get to this. Is

00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:48.420
he the Scottish? He's not the Scottish. He is

00:45:48.420 --> 00:45:52.860
Jango Fett. Yeah, I guess he is. He's one of

00:45:52.860 --> 00:45:57.320
the crew members. Okay. He doesn't die. He's

00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.099
definitely not the Scottish crew member. I only

00:45:59.099 --> 00:46:00.539
remember the Scottish crew member because he

00:46:00.539 --> 00:46:02.519
kind of made me think of James McAvoy, but not

00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:08.420
nearly as good looking. So where am I in my notes?

00:46:09.059 --> 00:46:13.739
So Willem Dafoe is getting the boat ready to

00:46:13.739 --> 00:46:18.940
hijack it. he puts down he sneaks into the bridge

00:46:18.940 --> 00:46:21.079
and he's like trying to pretend to be all drunk

00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.599
and he's like slips and falls and like knocks

00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:25.960
some buttons and then one another time he like

00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:28.500
slips and falls and he like puts like a wi -fi

00:46:28.500 --> 00:46:30.639
router underneath that we think is supposed to

00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:33.860
be like a speaker so he can hear things and my

00:46:33.860 --> 00:46:35.579
friend charlotte who's very big into tech and

00:46:35.579 --> 00:46:37.860
she's like what's he gonna do with that like

00:46:37.860 --> 00:46:40.719
get on the wi -fi and then we found out the technology

00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:43.519
that they used for the devices the wi -fi router

00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.340
it's not actually in the universe of wi -fi router

00:46:46.340 --> 00:46:49.719
okay but they used a wi -fi router wi -fi router

00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:52.280
okay yeah that would make do with what you got

00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:57.780
at the radio shack um so uh willem dafoe throws

00:46:57.780 --> 00:47:01.500
the captain overboard and now now the plot is

00:47:01.500 --> 00:47:05.059
in action so he holds the boat hostage he hacks

00:47:05.059 --> 00:47:09.699
into the mainframe he slows the engines of the

00:47:09.699 --> 00:47:13.570
the boat down and he's pulling it off course

00:47:13.570 --> 00:47:19.349
ever so slightly um so he makes his demands they're

00:47:19.349 --> 00:47:23.070
very opaque um and gives everybody time to evacuate

00:47:23.070 --> 00:47:28.469
the ship which leads to what felt like oh my

00:47:28.469 --> 00:47:31.610
god 20 minutes but was really only like maybe

00:47:31.610 --> 00:47:34.469
eight minutes of people trying to get off the

00:47:34.469 --> 00:47:38.670
boat into lifeboats And it's just so unnecessary.

00:47:39.210 --> 00:47:42.269
Such a stupid drama piece. It's like part of

00:47:42.269 --> 00:47:44.389
the dinghy on one of the boats breaks. And then

00:47:44.389 --> 00:47:47.510
Alex Shaw has to like grab it. And then he's

00:47:47.510 --> 00:47:49.889
slipping. So Sandra Bullock's like, no, I also

00:47:49.889 --> 00:47:52.849
have to save him. So she does one thing in this

00:47:52.849 --> 00:47:57.409
movie so far. But it just takes on for so goddamn

00:47:57.409 --> 00:48:01.389
long. You make me feel like she does single digit

00:48:01.389 --> 00:48:04.199
things in this movie. yeah she's got one of the

00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:06.539
things she does in this movie that's okay um

00:48:06.539 --> 00:48:12.099
so that's happening there's something about diamonds

00:48:12.099 --> 00:48:13.840
because of course there's diamonds on the boat

00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:16.639
one in doubt is diamonds or it's bombs one in

00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:21.199
doubt it's diamonds or it's bombs um before the

00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.480
boat that everybody's starting to evacuate he

00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:25.860
like like i said he hijacks the boat so he like

00:48:25.860 --> 00:48:29.579
causes it to like slow down so A character says,

00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:33.000
oh, my God, was that an earthquake when, like,

00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:37.119
the boat, like, comes to an abrupt halt? You're

00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:40.039
on water. If it was an earthquake, you'd be dead.

00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:42.800
Well. No, because there'd be a tsunami. There'd

00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:44.719
be a tidal wave. There'd be something, yeah.

00:48:44.980 --> 00:48:50.929
Yeah. So the people who didn't evacuate get back

00:48:50.929 --> 00:48:53.090
onto the boat and then Willem Dafoe puts it all

00:48:53.090 --> 00:48:54.949
in lockdown. So a number of people get locked

00:48:54.949 --> 00:48:57.949
behind like auto closing doors. The 14 year old

00:48:57.949 --> 00:49:00.130
girl had gotten separated from her parents and

00:49:00.130 --> 00:49:02.309
got stuck in an elevator. So she's in there for

00:49:02.309 --> 00:49:07.630
a while. And the other thing that Sandra Bullock

00:49:07.630 --> 00:49:10.389
does in this film is that she finds a chainsaw

00:49:10.389 --> 00:49:13.449
and like cuts a hole in a door to get people

00:49:13.449 --> 00:49:16.869
out of it. And then, of course, comedic timing.

00:49:17.489 --> 00:49:19.510
She's, like, leaning in close to the chainsaw.

00:49:19.829 --> 00:49:22.369
And because, like, smoke was coming into the

00:49:22.369 --> 00:49:24.090
enclosed room, people, like, took off their clothes

00:49:24.090 --> 00:49:27.170
to, like, hide, like, stop the doors. So she's

00:49:27.170 --> 00:49:28.469
like, why don't you come out? And they're like,

00:49:28.590 --> 00:49:30.949
put the chainsaw down. But it's whirling, so

00:49:30.949 --> 00:49:33.090
she can't hear it. So you got, like, a who's

00:49:33.090 --> 00:49:37.309
on first exchange for, like, two minutes. Why

00:49:37.309 --> 00:49:39.809
do we have time for this? Wasn't that funny?

00:49:42.469 --> 00:49:44.449
That's really the only awesome thing she does

00:49:44.449 --> 00:49:48.530
in this entire movie. Let's see. Comments about

00:49:48.530 --> 00:49:51.510
her bad acting. I don't think Sandra was trying

00:49:51.510 --> 00:49:55.230
very hard for this movie. She got screwed in

00:49:55.230 --> 00:49:58.309
this movie. Yes, she did. How do you mean? She

00:49:58.309 --> 00:50:02.110
got conscripted. I think she just couldn't say

00:50:02.110 --> 00:50:05.650
no. She wasn't as famous as Keanu. No, no. They

00:50:05.650 --> 00:50:08.539
wanted to bring both of them back. keanu didn't

00:50:08.539 --> 00:50:12.119
have a contract with the studio sandra got out

00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:14.800
of another movie so she had a contract with the

00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:16.960
studio so they were like okay you got out of

00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:20.400
this one you have to do this one and this one

00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:23.880
just so happened to be speed two got it and i

00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:26.559
just wanted to be known uh the writer because

00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:29.079
i just looked this up of the story because that's

00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:32.579
what i was curious about um he has been the writer

00:50:32.579 --> 00:50:38.530
for speed two titan ae oh no not titan ae blue

00:50:38.530 --> 00:50:43.869
crush 2 okay 2 he likes his sequels scorpion

00:50:43.869 --> 00:50:50.409
king 2 and scorpion king 3 i didn't even know

00:50:50.409 --> 00:50:52.250
they made a 2 and 3 of scorpion king oh there's

00:50:52.250 --> 00:50:55.130
5 i've talked about for the podcast i'm going

00:50:55.130 --> 00:50:57.289
to watch all five of them and were they all like

00:50:57.289 --> 00:51:00.329
direct to vhs or something uh the first one i

00:51:00.329 --> 00:51:02.409
think got a theatrical release after that the

00:51:02.409 --> 00:51:07.349
other four definitely yeah so shenanigans is

00:51:07.349 --> 00:51:11.570
going on mr geiger's got the boat finally alex

00:51:11.570 --> 00:51:14.949
shaw gets to the main to the bridge and nobody

00:51:14.949 --> 00:51:17.130
actually has communicated that they're being

00:51:17.130 --> 00:51:20.289
hijacked so like they think something is they

00:51:20.289 --> 00:51:23.289
thought just something is happening and someone

00:51:23.289 --> 00:51:26.440
one of the members of the remaining crew is like

00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:29.500
he won't let us go and like alex says a double

00:51:29.500 --> 00:51:32.900
take he's like what do you mean he and then the

00:51:32.900 --> 00:51:36.920
whole plan comes out and it all it works so perfectly

00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:39.780
that you know this dude is hijacking a boat to

00:51:39.780 --> 00:51:42.639
do something with it we don't know yet and you

00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:46.599
know this very grizzled manly fbi maybe cop man

00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:49.860
is also on the boat so naturally they got a butt

00:51:49.860 --> 00:51:55.400
heads right um willem defoe rants about the logistics

00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:59.000
of ramming a high -tech machine into another

00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:02.639
giant machine and how no one appreciates that

00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:05.380
of course you know high -tech logistics and all

00:52:05.380 --> 00:52:08.739
of that jack um and then at some point or another

00:52:08.739 --> 00:52:12.820
the plan the the master plan reveals itself is

00:52:12.820 --> 00:52:15.179
that he's going to ram a cruise ship into an

00:52:15.179 --> 00:52:20.670
oil rig so to do this The motor is not really

00:52:20.670 --> 00:52:24.650
going. It's just kind of naturally going that

00:52:24.650 --> 00:52:27.230
way with, like, slow speed. So this movie is

00:52:27.230 --> 00:52:29.750
false advertising, because there is no speed

00:52:29.750 --> 00:52:33.449
in this. There's just ocean currents and, you

00:52:33.449 --> 00:52:35.909
know, what, one or two knots or something. So,

00:52:35.949 --> 00:52:42.829
lies. Big fat lies. Big fat lies. Yeah, so they

00:52:42.829 --> 00:52:47.690
managed to turn the boat through stuff. I think

00:52:47.690 --> 00:52:49.230
I'm missing, there's definitely stuff that I'm

00:52:49.230 --> 00:52:51.469
forgetting about. Oh, at one point or another,

00:52:51.489 --> 00:52:53.730
Alex Shaw gets locked in, like, the cruise's

00:52:53.730 --> 00:52:56.429
mall, and they have a standoff with Willem Dafoe,

00:52:56.570 --> 00:53:00.409
and, you know, dude runs away and unlocks him

00:53:00.409 --> 00:53:03.309
in, and then there's fire and a grenade holding

00:53:03.309 --> 00:53:08.059
the door closed to Sandra, and... maybe one of

00:53:08.059 --> 00:53:10.500
the cruise dudes named Dante, I think it's Dante,

00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:13.340
they have to get, like, the pin out, so it's,

00:53:13.380 --> 00:53:16.360
like, this very tense, in air quotes, tense moment

00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:19.860
of them, like, taking the pin and opening the

00:53:19.860 --> 00:53:22.380
door, and then she falls backwards, and she's

00:53:22.380 --> 00:53:24.760
still holding the grenade, and then throwing

00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:28.539
the grenade. It's like, oh my god, is this movie

00:53:28.539 --> 00:53:33.880
over yet? No. No, it's not. So at the end of

00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:36.460
that set piece, and what feels like 100 000 hours

00:53:36.460 --> 00:53:39.099
it's daytime now um and they realize that they're

00:53:39.099 --> 00:53:41.260
hitting going to an oil rig so they need to turn

00:53:41.260 --> 00:53:43.820
the boat so they managed to trick the system

00:53:43.820 --> 00:53:48.239
into giving them control back essentially and

00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:49.900
yay they're not gonna hit the oil rig anymore

00:53:49.900 --> 00:53:53.780
they're gonna hit an island now with people in

00:53:53.780 --> 00:53:57.960
it oh no this is the part of the movie where

00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.659
my friend charlotte was just wishing people died

00:54:01.469 --> 00:54:03.889
can they just die i want them all to be dead

00:54:03.889 --> 00:54:06.510
this movie would be over or more interesting

00:54:06.510 --> 00:54:10.449
um she also said i'm proud of you that you got

00:54:10.449 --> 00:54:13.969
people to watch this movie it's a feat i'm happy

00:54:13.969 --> 00:54:15.949
you did because i didn't have to watch it yeah

00:54:15.949 --> 00:54:19.070
so however all the characters are freaking out

00:54:19.070 --> 00:54:21.630
meanwhile i'm just wishing like the megalodon

00:54:21.630 --> 00:54:24.050
or godzilla showed up because that would be fucking

00:54:24.050 --> 00:54:28.989
cool um so now they need to stop the boat Yes.

00:54:29.230 --> 00:54:31.690
But now it's finally picking up speed because

00:54:31.690 --> 00:54:34.989
something happened there. So my favorite sea

00:54:34.989 --> 00:54:39.309
hand guy, the Scottish dude in the bridge, his

00:54:39.309 --> 00:54:42.010
job in this movie is mostly been just telling

00:54:42.010 --> 00:54:44.050
Alishaw he can't do the things he's doing and

00:54:44.050 --> 00:54:46.570
that Alex just does them anyway. Okay. Or in

00:54:46.570 --> 00:54:48.769
the second half of the film, it's reading the

00:54:48.769 --> 00:54:51.329
speedometer and talking about how fast the boat

00:54:51.329 --> 00:54:54.280
is going or not going. The speed. The speed of

00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:57.840
the boat. Yes. So they drop the anchor. There's

00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:00.260
a tense moment where Alice gets stuck underwater,

00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:03.179
but they manage to pull him up. So the boat is

00:55:03.179 --> 00:55:07.579
going into the harbor, a la the way that, like,

00:55:07.619 --> 00:55:09.599
in the Megalodon, the Meg is, like, going into

00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:12.519
the harbor and killing people. Yeah. But not

00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:16.079
nearly as exciting. And, you know, people are,

00:55:16.139 --> 00:55:18.539
like, staring at it and not getting out of the

00:55:18.539 --> 00:55:20.639
way of a cruise ship. That's not actually a cruise

00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:23.300
ship. It's more like a super yacht. Let's take

00:55:23.300 --> 00:55:25.699
a moment to appreciate this. This is not a cruise

00:55:25.699 --> 00:55:29.340
ship. This is a fucking super yacht. People are

00:55:29.340 --> 00:55:31.000
not getting out of the way of it, so boats get

00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:33.519
smashed. People are like, oh, no, what is that

00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:37.860
saying? Maybe I should move. And, you know, the

00:55:37.860 --> 00:55:39.519
sky issue is like, oh, we're not slowing down.

00:55:39.619 --> 00:55:41.260
We're not slowing down. We're going this amount

00:55:41.260 --> 00:55:45.000
of speed. And then, you know, the boat hits land,

00:55:45.420 --> 00:55:48.000
because that will happen when you hit an island.

00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:52.059
But it keeps... going yeah so it goes down like

00:55:52.059 --> 00:55:55.500
half a city block and like scottish guy falls

00:55:55.500 --> 00:55:58.260
on the ground and he's like one mile per hour

00:55:58.260 --> 00:56:02.800
1 .0 .5 miles per hour and the boat finally stops

00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:06.739
after it hits a hotel it's like we stopped oh

00:56:06.739 --> 00:56:12.469
my is that the end of the movie no so What I

00:56:12.469 --> 00:56:15.070
failed to mention is that during this very exciting

00:56:15.070 --> 00:56:18.110
climatic moment, Willem Dafoe had kidnapped Sandra

00:56:18.110 --> 00:56:20.269
Bullock to make her his damsel in distress because

00:56:20.269 --> 00:56:22.369
naturally that had to happen. So they're getting

00:56:22.369 --> 00:56:25.449
away on like a speedboat, but it's like a speedboat

00:56:25.449 --> 00:56:28.309
that has like a sidecar speedboat next to it.

00:56:28.389 --> 00:56:30.829
And he put her on the one that has the controls

00:56:30.829 --> 00:56:34.110
to release the sidecar. And he didn't tie her

00:56:34.110 --> 00:56:38.050
hands down secure enough to stop her from releasing

00:56:38.050 --> 00:56:42.010
the sidecar. So there's a moment, Terry chase

00:56:42.010 --> 00:56:44.369
scene. It's not really a chase scene because

00:56:44.369 --> 00:56:46.929
let's be real here. Her character doesn't know

00:56:46.929 --> 00:56:49.349
what the fuck is going on. Then there's a sea

00:56:49.349 --> 00:56:55.030
plane. And this is when the, finally we get into

00:56:55.030 --> 00:56:57.690
the last act of the movie. So Alex Shaw is like

00:56:57.690 --> 00:57:00.469
racing to get there. So he jumps into a Caribbean

00:57:00.469 --> 00:57:06.920
man's boat. Who's on a date with a lady. It's

00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:09.679
not great when the few, few people of color in

00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:14.039
this film are there to either exposit like action

00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:17.199
things like he's slowing down. He's picking up

00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:21.059
speed. He's not doing this thing or being a bad

00:57:21.059 --> 00:57:24.420
caricature of a Caribbean individual. Yeah. So

00:57:24.420 --> 00:57:27.199
that sucks. And that's probably the Caribbean

00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:29.400
couple as a whole right there. Yeah, that's the

00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:30.820
Caribbean couple of the whole. The only other

00:57:30.820 --> 00:57:33.559
character of color is Dante, our cruise man who

00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:37.820
takes photos. Dante's cool. and that's cool all

00:57:37.820 --> 00:57:42.679
right so you get you know you get the the i don't

00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:44.420
know why the seaplane takes so long to get off

00:57:44.420 --> 00:57:47.460
the air so like saunders trying to get out and

00:57:47.460 --> 00:57:51.760
like slapping around and you know if he really

00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:53.460
thought this through he would have just let her

00:57:53.460 --> 00:57:56.420
go because then alex wouldn't chase after him

00:57:56.420 --> 00:58:00.000
and then he could just get away but i guess drama

00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:04.639
um so no shocker there Willem Dafoe does not

00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:08.119
really get away. So he gets out of the airplane.

00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:12.320
He loses his backpack of diamonds. So yay, they're

00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:17.880
saved. And while he thinks he's clear, he realizes

00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:19.599
he's not getting enough air and he's going to

00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:23.980
hit the oil rig. And he slams into it, starts

00:58:23.980 --> 00:58:26.960
laughing maniacally, and then the rig goes boom.

00:58:27.340 --> 00:58:29.719
Hopefully they evacuated people from that rig.

00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:33.639
I don't think they did. Probably not. It doesn't

00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:36.719
sound right. And this is at the point where we

00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:38.460
decided this was the origin story for the Green

00:58:38.460 --> 00:58:44.219
Gop. Fair. So the day is saved. Sondra is saved.

00:58:44.539 --> 00:58:47.820
They're posed. The movie ends with her getting

00:58:47.820 --> 00:58:50.519
back to her trying to get her license again.

00:58:50.940 --> 00:58:53.559
And you think maybe she can drive now because,

00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:56.219
you know, she hasn't driven anything in this

00:58:56.219 --> 00:59:00.139
movie. maybe she got the confidence back yeah

00:59:00.139 --> 00:59:02.480
no she she still can't drive she still can't

00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:07.360
drive this movie sucked um so i looked up dante

00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:10.820
just because i was curious dante is now a writer

00:59:10.820 --> 00:59:14.639
for a million little things good for dante actor

00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:16.380
i know i'm actually i'm really excited because

00:59:16.380 --> 00:59:19.820
like i saw his credits for acting His credits

00:59:19.820 --> 00:59:22.000
for acting are nothing special. Like Speed 2

00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:25.119
is in the top four. So I was like, oh no, he's

00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:26.739
one of those guys. And he doesn't have his picture

00:59:26.739 --> 00:59:29.780
on the IMV. So I was like, oh no, he's one of

00:59:29.780 --> 00:59:32.380
those guys that just got like put in the background.

00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:34.559
No, he's a writer for a million little things.

00:59:34.659 --> 00:59:37.380
So I'm actually happy for him. You know, it's

00:59:37.380 --> 00:59:40.079
not as good as This Is Us, but it's good enough.

00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:44.940
This movie was, like I said, it was boring. It

00:59:44.940 --> 00:59:48.550
was not good. What was probably the most bizarre

00:59:48.550 --> 00:59:50.769
was that sometimes like their random comedic

00:59:50.769 --> 00:59:53.090
moments so like when the boat is smashing into

00:59:53.090 --> 00:59:55.989
the island when it comes to a halt it's like

00:59:55.989 --> 00:59:59.349
bow or stern i don't know both the front of it

00:59:59.349 --> 01:00:01.889
which has like a long protruding part it's a

01:00:01.889 --> 01:00:04.730
bell and the bell like nice little ring so it's

01:00:04.730 --> 01:00:09.309
like you know yeah isn't that cute um you know

01:00:09.309 --> 01:00:14.630
the scene with the chainsaw yeah that uh This

01:00:14.630 --> 01:00:17.389
movie is weird and it's horribly paced and it's

01:00:17.389 --> 01:00:21.190
way too long. It's over two hours. Jeez. Yeah.

01:00:21.250 --> 01:00:23.710
Two hours and four minutes. And Charlotte, I

01:00:23.710 --> 01:00:25.929
think asked seven times how much more of this

01:00:25.929 --> 01:00:29.110
movie is left. And it was like, we're only 45

01:00:29.110 --> 01:00:33.050
minutes in. We're only 52 minutes in. We're only

01:00:33.050 --> 01:00:36.750
an hour and 23 minutes in. So the director of

01:00:36.750 --> 01:00:39.869
this movie, he has one writing credit. And that

01:00:39.869 --> 01:00:45.110
one writing credit is speed too. Because he has

01:00:45.110 --> 01:00:47.809
directed things such as Speed. He directed Speed.

01:00:48.050 --> 01:00:50.849
He directed Speed 2. He directed Tomb Raider,

01:00:50.949 --> 01:00:54.090
Cradle of Life, and one more that I'm missing.

01:00:54.449 --> 01:00:59.110
Shoot, I can't. But basically, the point was,

01:00:59.230 --> 01:01:01.789
this is the only thing he's ever written. Yeah.

01:01:02.130 --> 01:01:06.369
And it is apparent. Yes, it is very apparent.

01:01:06.630 --> 01:01:09.070
And what really sucks is that... Oh, he directed

01:01:09.070 --> 01:01:11.590
Twister. That's it, Twister. I haven't actually

01:01:11.590 --> 01:01:13.710
seen Twister, but don't some people like Twister?

01:01:13.869 --> 01:01:16.269
Yeah, Twister is a good movie. Twister's fine.

01:01:16.469 --> 01:01:20.369
He did Speed, Twister, Speed 2, The Haunting,

01:01:20.550 --> 01:01:24.869
and then Tomb Raider Cradle of Life. So what

01:01:24.869 --> 01:01:26.550
I was going to say is that what really sucks

01:01:26.550 --> 01:01:28.230
about this movie, besides the fact that it's

01:01:28.230 --> 01:01:32.250
just bad, is that it's written in the 90s. So

01:01:32.250 --> 01:01:35.929
there is nothing in this movie for me as a woman.

01:01:36.539 --> 01:01:38.880
There's not like I mean, yes, there's some female

01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:42.679
fan service with how hot Jason Patrick is. Why

01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:45.199
do you think I put it up for the movie that you

01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:48.400
had to watch? But like, yeah, no, exactly. You

01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:51.079
get it. But like, it's just so frustrating watching

01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:54.119
an action film where, yeah, it's got Sandra Bullock

01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:56.139
and top billing, but she does fucking nothing.

01:01:56.280 --> 01:02:00.260
And her character is number one now. Yeah. She

01:02:00.260 --> 01:02:02.820
would never do a role like this. Never. Ever.

01:02:04.190 --> 01:02:06.949
you know now but you know it's 19 they filmed

01:02:06.949 --> 01:02:10.050
this in 1986 it came out in 1997 so the concept

01:02:10.050 --> 01:02:13.650
of having your main female lady be screaming

01:02:13.650 --> 01:02:17.309
crying raving ranting being just a general weirdo

01:02:17.309 --> 01:02:19.889
of course that makes sense and we were all agreeing

01:02:19.889 --> 01:02:21.630
that like thank god it's sandra bullock because

01:02:21.630 --> 01:02:25.170
she's so likable that she makes her character

01:02:25.170 --> 01:02:28.550
bearable but there are times where she's absolutely

01:02:28.550 --> 01:02:30.510
at least to me it seems like she's phoning it

01:02:30.510 --> 01:02:33.230
in like the character can't hide yeah the character

01:02:33.230 --> 01:02:35.789
is awful and she definitely phoned in some of

01:02:35.789 --> 01:02:38.250
it which i don't blame her for in any way shape

01:02:38.250 --> 01:02:40.949
or form so this is not a shot at sandra bullock

01:02:40.949 --> 01:02:43.349
because at the end of the day this character

01:02:43.349 --> 01:02:47.920
is awful yeah This movie did not age well, and

01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:51.719
it wasn't good when it came out. She did get

01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:56.980
$11 .5 million for her role in this, according

01:02:56.980 --> 01:03:01.079
to IMDb. So she made bank for this. As I've always

01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:04.059
relayed to Michael Caine, I have not seen the

01:03:04.059 --> 01:03:06.559
movie, but I have seen the house it bought, and

01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:11.400
it is spectacular. oh my god why didn't they

01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:13.099
so i'm looking at other actors they would have

01:03:13.099 --> 01:03:16.480
cast as the main character as alex shaw christian

01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:20.800
slater matthew mcconaughey yeah okay i think

01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:23.500
mcconaughey would have been like all ham and

01:03:23.500 --> 01:03:26.820
i think willem dafoe really is the only actor

01:03:26.820 --> 01:03:30.400
who really understood this is just koki and let's

01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:34.719
just have the assignment Leeches! We were joking

01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:36.880
that, like, he just brought them to set one day,

01:03:36.980 --> 01:03:38.559
and they're like, no, Willem, we don't need those

01:03:38.559 --> 01:03:41.800
as props, but you do you, boo -boo. Get in that

01:03:41.800 --> 01:03:44.219
bathtub with them Leeches. If that's what you

01:03:44.219 --> 01:03:48.320
feel, that's what you feel. Yeah, so. Yeah. Final

01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:55.659
ranking is, ugh, a 0 .9 Leech Queen. Ooh, 0 .9,

01:03:55.659 --> 01:03:58.619
Jesus. Or, you know, 0 .9 I Wish the Meg Ate

01:03:58.619 --> 01:04:01.940
Them All. So you keep referring to the Meg. I

01:04:01.940 --> 01:04:05.159
love the Meg. I know. Well, it just made me realize

01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:07.420
how much of a Jason Statham fan you are now.

01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:09.559
I mean, now, yeah. Like, I've never actually

01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:13.000
seen Crank, but, like, I enjoy the Meg. I enjoy

01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:16.639
him as Deckard Shaw. Yeah. Yeah, he's Deckard

01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:20.480
Shaw. Yeah, Deckard Shaw. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've

01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:23.320
seen him in other things, I think. I've never.

01:04:24.139 --> 01:04:27.179
imagined you as a Jason Statham -like stan as

01:04:27.179 --> 01:04:28.820
hard as you are. I'm a late -to -the -game Statham

01:04:28.820 --> 01:04:31.159
fan. Like, I don't know if I can really be considered

01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:33.900
a... Oh, he's in Spy, and he's really funny in

01:04:33.900 --> 01:04:36.840
that. This is... No, this is good enough. Like,

01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:39.980
I'm not... Like, this is really... Like, I can't

01:04:39.980 --> 01:04:42.860
believe how much of a fan you are. Yeah, because

01:04:42.860 --> 01:04:45.480
he... Because, you know, he is similar to The

01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:49.199
Rock in the sense... Not, like, physicality or

01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:51.519
anything like that. But in, like, he just has...

01:04:51.789 --> 01:04:56.170
Excellent comedic timing. Okay. Sure. No, it's

01:04:56.170 --> 01:05:01.010
the Tim Curry effect. It doesn't matter what

01:05:01.010 --> 01:05:04.210
the thing is. If this actor is in it, they will

01:05:04.210 --> 01:05:06.949
be good. So that's my thing about Tim Curry.

01:05:07.150 --> 01:05:10.449
Have you seen The Transporters? No. Oh, we got

01:05:10.449 --> 01:05:13.130
to fix that. He's in The Italian Job. I liked

01:05:13.130 --> 01:05:16.110
that. The Italian Job was excellent. So what

01:05:16.110 --> 01:05:18.090
I'm saying with the Tim Curry effect is that

01:05:18.090 --> 01:05:20.090
in the 90s and early 2000s, Tim Curry was in

01:05:20.090 --> 01:05:22.300
a lot of things. A lot of them are not good,

01:05:22.440 --> 01:05:25.739
but Tim Curry is very good. So even if it's bad.

01:05:25.739 --> 01:05:28.440
Tim Curry always understood the assignment. It's

01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:31.059
the Tim Curry effect. Yes. So Jason Statham is

01:05:31.059 --> 01:05:32.440
the same deal. It doesn't matter if it's good

01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:34.579
or bad. If Jason Statham is in it, I'll at least

01:05:34.579 --> 01:05:39.139
enjoy him. I'm shocked how much of a Jason Statham

01:05:39.139 --> 01:05:41.960
Stan you are. And that's not a bad thing at all.

01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:46.360
I guess I am. Yeah, I call him Jason. Yeah. Go

01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:48.300
see the Transporter series because you'll really

01:05:48.300 --> 01:05:50.500
enjoy it. He's at his best with that. We'll work

01:05:50.500 --> 01:05:53.239
on that. Yeah, he's really at his best with that.

01:05:53.380 --> 01:05:55.280
At the Italian job, because the Italian job's

01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:57.079
awesome. Yeah, no, I liked him in Italian. You

01:05:57.079 --> 01:05:58.940
know, like I said, he's excellent in comedic

01:05:58.940 --> 01:06:01.539
timing. He's got a great... He knows his body.

01:06:01.599 --> 01:06:04.480
He's got great sense of movement. Yep. So it's

01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:06.260
not like, you know, you see one Jason Statham

01:06:06.260 --> 01:06:09.579
movie, you see them all. Right. He's always doing

01:06:09.579 --> 01:06:12.000
something... It's always an entertaining performance.

01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:16.119
Interesting. I did not see this going that way,

01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:18.360
but I'm here for it. I really am. And the Meg

01:06:18.360 --> 01:06:22.440
is just... hilariously fun movie nice nice all

01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:24.519
right well we gotta take a quick break but we're

01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:27.000
going to give a shout out first to the people

01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:30.440
that got the hints so i posted hints on twitter

01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:33.320
uh three hints you had to guess what the movie

01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:36.019
was uh apparently i went too easy on this one

01:06:36.019 --> 01:06:38.780
because shoot the flick got it on the first hint

01:06:38.780 --> 01:06:41.400
what was the hand i missed this i put i'm on

01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:44.510
a boat a gif of i'm on a boat Maybe they remembered

01:06:44.510 --> 01:06:46.630
the conversation because we had this conversation

01:06:46.630 --> 01:06:49.190
pretty publicly. Which is true, too. We actually

01:06:49.190 --> 01:06:52.510
talked about it in our last episode. So it's

01:06:52.510 --> 01:06:54.789
very possible they paid attention to it and just

01:06:54.789 --> 01:06:58.130
knew that was the thing. But I honestly think

01:06:58.130 --> 01:07:01.949
it's Frankie and Scott. They're awesome. They

01:07:01.949 --> 01:07:05.789
know movies pretty well. So I would not be shocked

01:07:05.789 --> 01:07:07.969
if they just saw a boat and said, it's got to

01:07:07.969 --> 01:07:11.400
be Speed 2. So they got it. And then we're giving

01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:13.659
a special shout out to our friends at Open Shutters.

01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:16.400
The reason we're giving them a special shout

01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:18.280
out is they're starting a movie part of their

01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:23.139
stuff as well. They are awesome as well. Love

01:07:23.139 --> 01:07:25.519
them to death. So shoot the flick. Open Shutters.

01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:28.639
This is for you. Both of your promos going now.

01:07:33.260 --> 01:07:35.980
Hey there, this is Frankie Sparks. And this is

01:07:35.980 --> 01:07:39.329
Scott Eisenberg. We're married. And we have a

01:07:39.329 --> 01:07:42.289
podcast called Shoot the Flick. Every week, Scott

01:07:42.289 --> 01:07:44.590
and I introduce each other to a new movie the

01:07:44.590 --> 01:07:47.050
other one has never seen. We talk about it, give

01:07:47.050 --> 01:07:49.369
our thoughts on it, and also share some behind

01:07:49.369 --> 01:07:52.050
-the -scenes fun facts. We want you guys to come

01:07:52.050 --> 01:07:55.030
along and enjoy the movies with us. Check us

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01:08:53.390 --> 01:09:06.930
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01:09:06.930 --> 01:09:09.630
Shutters and at Shoot the Flick. Check them out

01:09:09.630 --> 01:09:12.770
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new app, which everybody should check out because

01:09:20.829 --> 01:09:23.189
there's an indie -only feature, which I absolutely

01:09:23.189 --> 01:09:27.029
love. I do absolutely love that. It's kind of

01:09:27.029 --> 01:09:30.130
fun to see where you rank in indie pods because

01:09:30.130 --> 01:09:32.350
you actually get on a top 100 list and you feel

01:09:32.350 --> 01:09:36.310
kind of like, yay, that's us. Aw. Yeah. So it's

01:09:36.310 --> 01:09:41.270
good. Check out Good Pods app. This did not become

01:09:41.270 --> 01:09:45.449
an ad for them, but it kind of is, I guess. um

01:09:45.449 --> 01:09:48.170
so that brings us to our favorite section or

01:09:48.170 --> 01:09:51.090
at least mine that's what i'll always say because

01:09:51.090 --> 01:09:55.010
it's my favorite section uh hashtag cash or trash

01:09:55.010 --> 01:09:58.350
we talk about things that are streaming or on

01:09:58.350 --> 01:10:00.970
the internet or anywhere you can get it wherever

01:10:00.970 --> 01:10:03.590
you can get it give a quick synopsis and just

01:10:03.590 --> 01:10:07.289
say if it's hashtag cash or hashtag trash so

01:10:07.289 --> 01:10:10.510
andre you were going to get us started sure uh

01:10:10.510 --> 01:10:16.350
so uh recently i started subscribing to CollegeHumor's

01:10:16.350 --> 01:10:18.630
own streaming service called Dropout. Do you

01:10:18.630 --> 01:10:20.630
guys remember CollegeHumor? Those YouTube videos

01:10:20.630 --> 01:10:23.090
back in the day? So they've been putting up all

01:10:23.090 --> 01:10:25.550
these clips from this. They have various shows

01:10:25.550 --> 01:10:27.449
on Dropout. The one I've been liking the most

01:10:27.449 --> 01:10:31.170
is called Game Changer. And the whole conceit

01:10:31.170 --> 01:10:32.789
of the game is that it's basically an improv

01:10:32.789 --> 01:10:38.189
comedy show in the shell of a game show. So it's

01:10:38.189 --> 01:10:40.210
usually three contestants that show up and the

01:10:40.210 --> 01:10:43.520
rules change every single episode. Is that the

01:10:43.520 --> 01:10:47.140
guy that has to sell the all P's keyboard? Yes.

01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:49.859
Yes. Yes. Oh yes. That is a clip from that show.

01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:53.500
So they've done the very smart thing of basically

01:10:53.500 --> 01:10:56.060
uploading clips of it to all the socials and

01:10:56.060 --> 01:10:58.060
stuff like that. And I was like, all right, this

01:10:58.060 --> 01:11:01.000
is funny. I need to check this out. And yeah.

01:11:01.100 --> 01:11:03.220
So it was funny enough for me to kick them a

01:11:03.220 --> 01:11:05.659
few bucks to watch. I think I've burned through

01:11:05.659 --> 01:11:07.680
all three seasons at this point. That's great.

01:11:08.430 --> 01:11:10.909
So just really funny stuff. If you see any clips

01:11:10.909 --> 01:11:14.369
on YouTube, yeah, it's all good. So Game Changer,

01:11:14.470 --> 01:11:18.970
definitely. The LP keyboard got me. The LP keyboard.

01:11:19.409 --> 01:11:25.789
How would you say this to a friend? oh man that

01:11:25.789 --> 01:11:28.289
is also horrible audio so i'm gonna probably

01:11:28.289 --> 01:11:31.409
edit that out because that was just me popping

01:11:31.409 --> 01:11:34.250
peas in front of my microphone i would say my

01:11:34.250 --> 01:11:37.210
favorite game favorite episode so far is where

01:11:37.210 --> 01:11:40.829
they all where the host proposes like some sort

01:11:40.829 --> 01:11:43.949
of awful uh stunt thing on them and they have

01:11:43.949 --> 01:11:46.970
to bet points so they're like how many points

01:11:46.970 --> 01:11:49.050
would you be willing for us to pluck a nose hair

01:11:49.050 --> 01:11:51.750
from you and it's a race to the bottom no you

01:11:51.750 --> 01:11:53.689
know it sounds gross but it's it was hilarious

01:11:53.689 --> 01:11:56.659
i don't know favorite favorite so far nice so

01:11:56.659 --> 01:11:59.539
very good yeah i was just gonna say let me guess

01:11:59.539 --> 01:12:04.659
hashtag cash there it is yes uh so the thing

01:12:04.659 --> 01:12:07.159
i've got um i actually bought both of them they're

01:12:07.159 --> 01:12:09.260
going to come to hbo max eventually i'm sure

01:12:09.260 --> 01:12:13.079
uh the long halloween part one and part two so

01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:17.680
it's a dc animated movie about batman oh that's

01:12:17.680 --> 01:12:22.000
what that is Yes, it's Batman. The Holiday Killer

01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:25.800
is killing members of the Falcone and Maroney

01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:30.880
family. That was the only thing that I was confused

01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:34.119
about was the different families. But other than

01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:39.140
that, the Holiday Killer, basically Commissioner

01:12:39.140 --> 01:12:43.220
Gordon, Batman, and of course Harvey Dent have

01:12:43.220 --> 01:12:46.479
to figure out who the Holiday Killer is. Jensen

01:12:46.479 --> 01:12:50.800
Ackles plays Batman. Jensen? Yes, he plays Batman.

01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:54.859
Oh, I'm so happy Dean's got a job. I was wondering

01:12:54.859 --> 01:12:56.600
what he was... He's going to be in the next season

01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:58.920
of The Boys. Yeah, he's like the Captain America

01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:02.779
proto -dude. Yeah. So I was wondering how he

01:13:02.779 --> 01:13:05.380
was going to do as Batman. Just because when

01:13:05.380 --> 01:13:08.079
I hear Dean, I don't really hear Batman. Yeah.

01:13:08.199 --> 01:13:11.840
I loved him as Red Hood. I do. I was wondering

01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:13.899
how he was going to be Batman. He's actually

01:13:13.899 --> 01:13:17.619
pretty good, but mostly because... batman does

01:13:17.619 --> 01:13:22.439
not say much he's quiet batman it is very villain

01:13:22.439 --> 01:13:26.039
heavy as well as it focuses a lot on harvey dent

01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:28.380
you can probably guess where the story is going

01:13:28.380 --> 01:13:32.739
not exactly i will say that and it was an excellent

01:13:32.739 --> 01:13:37.329
uh detective noir Who is the holiday killer?

01:13:38.010 --> 01:13:41.670
You have obvious suspects. You have less obvious

01:13:41.670 --> 01:13:44.609
suspects. You have no suspects at all, but you're

01:13:44.609 --> 01:13:46.750
still kind of questioning. And especially at

01:13:46.750 --> 01:13:50.289
the end of part one, I actually take credit in

01:13:50.289 --> 01:13:52.789
the fact that I did know who was the killer.

01:13:53.670 --> 01:13:56.369
But at the end of part one, I was definitely

01:13:56.369 --> 01:13:59.729
questioning myself going, oh, maybe not, you

01:13:59.729 --> 01:14:02.210
know, that kind of stuff. And I did not read

01:14:02.210 --> 01:14:05.779
the comic series. um i do have it next up in

01:14:05.779 --> 01:14:09.579
line to read but uh i wanted to watch this first

01:14:09.579 --> 01:14:11.800
when i knew it was coming out and then go back

01:14:11.800 --> 01:14:16.020
to it um it was excellent like it was really

01:14:16.020 --> 01:14:20.020
well done i have um part one is definitely five

01:14:20.020 --> 01:14:23.319
out of five for me part two i've got like 4 .75

01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:26.539
out of five for me like it wasn't as good but

01:14:26.539 --> 01:14:29.840
it's still excellent i highly recommend it long

01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:32.630
halloween part one and part two well worth it.

01:14:32.710 --> 01:14:36.670
I paid money for it. I would almost suggest paying

01:14:36.670 --> 01:14:40.170
money for it. If you're not as interested as

01:14:40.170 --> 01:14:44.430
I am because, you know, nerd, you can wait until

01:14:44.430 --> 01:14:46.930
it goes on HBO Max and not have to pay any more

01:14:46.930 --> 01:14:49.149
to watch it because it will be there eventually.

01:14:49.930 --> 01:14:53.390
But I could not wait. I was very excited about

01:14:53.390 --> 01:14:55.949
it. I was like, I need to check this out. It

01:14:55.949 --> 01:15:00.909
did have me intrigued by Jensen Ackles. Harvey

01:15:00.909 --> 01:15:05.930
Dent is Josh Duhamel. Catwoman is Naya Rivera.

01:15:06.989 --> 01:15:10.930
Oh, really? Yeah. Isn't she the Glee actress

01:15:10.930 --> 01:15:15.829
who passed away? Is she? Wait, no, I don't know.

01:15:15.930 --> 01:15:20.930
Okay, yeah, maybe. That wouldn't surprise me,

01:15:20.970 --> 01:15:27.909
actually. Yeah, you're right. Holy shit. Wow.

01:15:28.900 --> 01:15:34.119
Well, she got this one in. Yeah, this one's been

01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:37.640
sitting for a while. So it makes sense that she

01:15:37.640 --> 01:15:40.659
might have died after. Yeah. So she never saw

01:15:40.659 --> 01:15:42.699
it. Wow. I didn't even put two and two together

01:15:42.699 --> 01:15:44.659
with that. Well, she's excellent in it still.

01:15:44.979 --> 01:15:47.020
Sorry to bring the mood down. No, no, you're

01:15:47.020 --> 01:15:50.119
good. I mean, she's excellent as Catwoman. So

01:15:50.119 --> 01:15:55.979
really the cast is phenomenal. Like I said, I'm

01:15:55.979 --> 01:15:58.020
going to talk way too long about this because

01:15:58.020 --> 01:16:03.399
you guys asked for this. I want to get who else.

01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:06.600
Troy Baker is Joker, which has always been great.

01:16:06.739 --> 01:16:08.579
That makes sense, I guess. Is this a younger

01:16:08.579 --> 01:16:15.119
Joker like he was in Arkham? I will say what

01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:17.840
I like about this. Joker is not a big part of

01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:21.539
this. Sure. So don't take this as like, oh, Joker's

01:16:21.539 --> 01:16:23.340
in it. Joker's going to be a big part of this.

01:16:23.439 --> 01:16:27.060
He's not. He really isn't. David Dashmalchian,

01:16:27.300 --> 01:16:29.760
the guy who was Polka Dot Man for the Suicide

01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:32.899
Squad. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's Calendar Man.

01:16:33.380 --> 01:16:39.420
Oh, okay. Jack Quaid is Alberto Falcone. Jack

01:16:39.420 --> 01:16:41.659
Quaid is in The Boys. He's the main character

01:16:41.659 --> 01:16:45.720
of The Boys. And then who am I missing? There's

01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:50.500
another big name. John DiMaggio. ah john dimaggio

01:16:50.500 --> 01:16:54.359
is the mad hatter in this as well and he's just

01:16:54.359 --> 01:16:57.399
a part of part two wasn't john dimaggio didn't

01:16:57.399 --> 01:17:00.279
he do um wasn't he the joker in under the red

01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:04.699
hood uh yes yes also true yes he was also the

01:17:04.699 --> 01:17:08.720
joker and death in the family which is not as

01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:10.460
good right i thought he was i thought it was

01:17:10.460 --> 01:17:12.800
good in that uh he was good in under the red

01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:15.829
hood and he he was good in um Death in the Family,

01:17:15.909 --> 01:17:17.930
don't get me wrong either, but it was just Death

01:17:17.930 --> 01:17:19.529
in the Family was not what I wanted it to be.

01:17:19.649 --> 01:17:22.270
Right, right. But Under the Red Hood and Long

01:17:22.270 --> 01:17:24.689
Halloween, both of them are very high on my DC

01:17:24.689 --> 01:17:28.930
animated list. DC animated, especially Batman,

01:17:29.210 --> 01:17:32.789
all high on my list. I've been watching a lot

01:17:32.789 --> 01:17:37.189
of Suicide Squad as well. Had to notice. Yeah,

01:17:37.210 --> 01:17:41.560
right. Did you actually give me a reading? Cash.

01:17:41.939 --> 01:17:45.380
Cash, cash, cash, cash, cash. Just to cover our

01:17:45.380 --> 01:17:48.640
bases there. I paid real cash for this. It is

01:17:48.640 --> 01:17:54.039
cash. True cash. So for my entry, I'm putting

01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:59.000
forth the new Disney Plus series, What If? As

01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:02.239
of a couple hours ago, we have seen the two episodes

01:18:02.239 --> 01:18:06.699
that are out. I don't want to talk about the

01:18:06.699 --> 01:18:09.000
second one because that is definitely the better

01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:12.279
of the two. that one a lot of people are more

01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:14.359
are going to have more fun with the first one

01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:17.039
is what if uh peggy carter got the superhero

01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:21.760
soldier serum instead of steve and i had there

01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:23.560
were a lot of things that i liked about it i

01:18:23.560 --> 01:18:26.199
as i was telling andre after we watched it i

01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:28.159
really liked the fact that they made sure peggy

01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:31.840
moved very differently than the way that uh steve

01:18:31.840 --> 01:18:34.739
rogers fights to their own unique fight style

01:18:34.739 --> 01:18:38.359
it's not like you know they just put her body

01:18:38.359 --> 01:18:41.260
over his movements right really really appreciated

01:18:41.260 --> 01:18:46.859
that but the issues that we both had was that

01:18:46.859 --> 01:18:50.720
they didn't really do anything unique with it

01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:53.739
other than what if peggy was let's do it he was

01:18:53.739 --> 01:18:57.739
captain captain carter yeah same movie exactly

01:18:57.739 --> 01:19:01.619
okay so very similar yeah captain carter is actually

01:19:01.619 --> 01:19:04.449
captain carter yeah Yeah, so they followed a

01:19:04.449 --> 01:19:06.869
lot of plot beats of the first Avenger. Right,

01:19:06.930 --> 01:19:09.810
like, it just did not feel like I was watching

01:19:09.810 --> 01:19:11.689
anything meaningfully different besides, oh,

01:19:11.829 --> 01:19:14.010
it's Peggy that's a super soldier now. Which

01:19:14.010 --> 01:19:17.189
we can all say, like, Captain America the first

01:19:17.189 --> 01:19:19.850
Avenger wasn't the strongest Marvel movie. I

01:19:19.850 --> 01:19:21.829
like that movie. There's some Avengers, yeah.

01:19:22.210 --> 01:19:24.869
Definitely my favorite phase one film. Okay.

01:19:25.550 --> 01:19:31.199
Favorite over original Avengers. I really like

01:19:31.199 --> 01:19:32.880
the way that the original The First Avenger is

01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:38.520
shot. Iron Man? No. I really like the aesthetic

01:19:38.520 --> 01:19:41.319
of The First Avenger. Well, all this is to say,

01:19:41.399 --> 01:19:44.239
you like that movie so much, yet this What If

01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:45.500
episode... Well, that's because it's the same

01:19:45.500 --> 01:19:48.260
movie. And these are not movie -long episodes.

01:19:48.319 --> 01:19:51.460
They're 30, 35 minutes. I thought that they would

01:19:51.460 --> 01:19:53.279
do something a little more unique than just kind

01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:54.960
of follow the same shades of it. There was a

01:19:54.960 --> 01:19:56.760
part where I thought they were setting up a new

01:19:56.760 --> 01:19:59.020
twist on the Winter Soldier and that went nowhere.

01:19:59.699 --> 01:20:03.699
Then, you know, from a plot perspective, they

01:20:03.699 --> 01:20:05.920
did a lot of things that never had consequences

01:20:05.920 --> 01:20:09.699
for the changes in the timeline. So, you know,

01:20:09.779 --> 01:20:13.279
slight spoiler here. So they're following the

01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:15.220
plots of the first Avenger. Peggy becomes Captain

01:20:15.220 --> 01:20:18.619
Carter. They get a hold of the Tesseract. They

01:20:18.619 --> 01:20:22.550
get it. okay um so like what does that mean in

01:20:22.550 --> 01:20:24.329
the greater scheme of things like they have the

01:20:24.329 --> 01:20:27.609
temper act so they can harness that power so

01:20:27.609 --> 01:20:31.390
what is this going to mean for like tony um in

01:20:31.390 --> 01:20:34.210
the far future we don't know well we're not supposed

01:20:34.210 --> 01:20:36.449
to know and that's not i mean yeah i know but

01:20:36.449 --> 01:20:39.789
you know don't don't do it do we not know because

01:20:39.789 --> 01:20:43.489
go there yeah well do we not know because like

01:20:43.489 --> 01:20:46.130
it's not going to actually be covered or is it

01:20:46.130 --> 01:20:49.119
going to come back in the end we don't know if

01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:50.479
it's going to come back in the end I think they're

01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:53.439
all isolated stories the way that the Captain

01:20:53.439 --> 01:20:56.680
Carter ends is that she still go instead of going

01:20:56.680 --> 01:20:59.140
into the ice she goes into another dimension

01:20:59.140 --> 01:21:02.119
so it's still she's gone for 70 years and then

01:21:02.119 --> 01:21:05.359
comes back But that's it. That's literally where

01:21:05.359 --> 01:21:08.779
it ends. It ends the same way. You can have the

01:21:08.779 --> 01:21:11.399
first Avenger. Her being like, oh, we won the

01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:14.840
war and then face back. And I think a part of

01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:16.340
it, sorry to talk over you, but I think part

01:21:16.340 --> 01:21:19.800
of the reason why the episode went the way it

01:21:19.800 --> 01:21:23.439
went is that it's World War II. We were going

01:21:23.439 --> 01:21:26.100
to lose the war. We weren't going to do that.

01:21:26.300 --> 01:21:30.279
I mean, there are other ways it could go. Yeah.

01:21:30.900 --> 01:21:33.439
But there's really only one way to go. All this

01:21:33.439 --> 01:21:36.020
is to say is that the second episode, which is,

01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:38.939
can we give the high concept of it at least?

01:21:38.979 --> 01:21:42.640
Yeah. It's what if T 'Challa, aka Black Panther,

01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:44.979
was Star -Lord? Yeah, I mean, that's covered

01:21:44.979 --> 01:21:50.800
in the trailer. Right, right. And they did, it

01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:53.920
is not just, hey, you know, it's Black Panther

01:21:53.920 --> 01:21:55.659
in Guardians of the Galaxy. You know what I mean?

01:21:55.739 --> 01:21:58.060
Like, they did a significantly different plot.

01:21:58.220 --> 01:22:01.189
And that alone is the... way made it way way

01:22:01.189 --> 01:22:03.430
way way way better it's definitely more interesting

01:22:03.430 --> 01:22:08.970
so but it's not like i need to see where it goes

01:22:08.970 --> 01:22:12.210
they're fun little outside stories you know they're

01:22:12.210 --> 01:22:13.350
not going to meet and they're not going to affect

01:22:13.350 --> 01:22:15.310
anything in the greater universe my head canon

01:22:15.310 --> 01:22:18.409
is that spoilers for loki if you haven't seen

01:22:18.409 --> 01:22:21.090
it yet at the end of loki he who remained they

01:22:21.090 --> 01:22:24.689
killed a big bad which unleashes kang the conqueror

01:22:24.689 --> 01:22:26.850
because now multiverses and multi -dimensions

01:22:26.850 --> 01:22:29.720
are a thing in variance So my headcanon is the

01:22:29.720 --> 01:22:32.180
timing of the What If series corresponds with

01:22:32.180 --> 01:22:34.340
that because the Watcher is now watching all

01:22:34.340 --> 01:22:37.479
of these multiverses come alive because they

01:22:37.479 --> 01:22:43.560
can be alive. But, you know, right now it's not

01:22:43.560 --> 01:22:47.939
cash, but it's not trash. It's just kind of there.

01:22:48.739 --> 01:22:52.680
And I need to see what the next couple episodes

01:22:52.680 --> 01:22:57.609
are like before I really can make... make a judgment

01:22:57.609 --> 01:23:00.430
on it. But if you're already bought into the

01:23:00.430 --> 01:23:04.010
Marvel Universe, I think it's worth watching,

01:23:04.270 --> 01:23:06.470
especially the second episode. Chadwick Boseman

01:23:06.470 --> 01:23:09.869
did return before he untimely died to voice T

01:23:09.869 --> 01:23:12.229
'Challa, so it's really great having that one

01:23:12.229 --> 01:23:16.470
last ride with him. Right. And he's a very different

01:23:16.470 --> 01:23:19.170
character in this than he is in Black Panther,

01:23:19.329 --> 01:23:24.300
so it's cool seeing a... And he's not Peter Quill

01:23:24.300 --> 01:23:26.920
either. He's not that personality. He is his

01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:31.140
own unique person. There is no mixtape. No, and

01:23:31.140 --> 01:23:33.079
I appreciated that, that they didn't put in the

01:23:33.079 --> 01:23:37.340
music because that's a Peter Quill thing. I'm

01:23:37.340 --> 01:23:39.399
also very disappointed that you did not say your

01:23:39.399 --> 01:23:42.220
favorite Phase 1 movie was The Incredible Hulk.

01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:44.520
I've never actually seen that one. I've only

01:23:44.520 --> 01:23:48.119
seen the Idle Hulk film. Oh, okay. Don't waste

01:23:48.119 --> 01:23:51.140
it. The Incredible War Hulk is the Norton one,

01:23:51.239 --> 01:23:54.939
right? Yes. I've seen the other one. Yes. Eric

01:23:54.939 --> 01:24:00.699
Bana. Yeah, I was like, who was his name? Dang

01:24:00.699 --> 01:24:03.779
it. It's also the birth of, well, not really

01:24:03.779 --> 01:24:10.220
the birth of, but the most memorable before it

01:24:10.220 --> 01:24:13.739
became a thing, Stan Lee cameo. Oh, what's his

01:24:13.739 --> 01:24:17.159
cameo in that one? Him and Lou Ferrigno are security

01:24:17.159 --> 01:24:20.380
guards. Lou Ferrigno? Yes, they have the Hulk

01:24:20.380 --> 01:24:25.239
and Stan Lee. I love a Lou sighting. Yeah. Yeah,

01:24:25.760 --> 01:24:29.720
you want to watch Avengers Grimm? No. Lou Ferrigno.

01:24:29.779 --> 01:24:32.060
I mean, I know you already talked about it. Yeah,

01:24:32.060 --> 01:24:34.140
we already talked about it in the show, but yeah.

01:24:34.399 --> 01:24:36.239
Go back and watch that episode if you're curious.

01:24:36.460 --> 01:24:40.739
Yeah, yeah. Sorry. I usually promote this show.

01:24:41.020 --> 01:24:44.720
You did a better job than me. So ultimately,

01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:47.960
it's not cash. It's not quite trash. It's just

01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:50.420
itself. It's something that rhymes with cash

01:24:50.420 --> 01:24:53.760
or trash in the middle. It's frash. I don't know.

01:24:55.479 --> 01:25:03.100
That's not... Bash? Isn't that the... I can't

01:25:03.100 --> 01:25:05.979
remember his name now. The big bad of... Legacy

01:25:05.979 --> 01:25:08.119
of the Space Jam. Isn't that his character's

01:25:08.119 --> 01:25:12.579
name in Ocean's Eleven? Oh, yeah. Don Shields.

01:25:12.579 --> 01:25:14.479
What is his name? Don Shields. Yeah, it's Bash.

01:25:14.600 --> 01:25:18.159
Because he's Basher. Yeah, Basher. Basher. Yeah,

01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:19.859
yeah. Oh, my God. Didn't he have to, like, fake,

01:25:19.899 --> 01:25:21.920
like, a British accent? Yeah, he had a Cockney

01:25:21.920 --> 01:25:23.520
accent right there. It was awful. I think it

01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:25.800
was on purpose, though. I think the best thing

01:25:25.800 --> 01:25:29.720
he did in that movie was his pretending to be

01:25:29.720 --> 01:25:32.850
British to pretending to be American. in the

01:25:32.850 --> 01:25:37.930
oceans 13 oh i have seen that one i haven't seen

01:25:37.930 --> 01:25:41.550
12 my friend says ignore 12 completely um 12

01:25:41.550 --> 01:25:43.750
is fine if you imagine it as part of a different

01:25:43.750 --> 01:25:47.649
series like don't go in basher tar that's his

01:25:47.649 --> 01:25:51.630
name basher um don't go in and be like oh this

01:25:51.630 --> 01:25:55.369
is the ocean series now oceans 12 is its own

01:25:55.369 --> 01:25:57.649
thing pretty much and you can enjoy it as its

01:25:57.649 --> 01:26:01.189
own thing so yeah all in all long story short

01:26:01.189 --> 01:26:04.319
on the Excuse me. Marvel What If is if you're

01:26:04.319 --> 01:26:05.600
already bought into the Marvel Universe, give

01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:07.920
it a shot. If you are new to the Marvel Universe,

01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:10.640
I don't know what this is going to make you.

01:26:11.119 --> 01:26:14.689
Yeah, if WandaVision... If WandaVision was the

01:26:14.689 --> 01:26:16.930
first Marvel property you've watched, maybe you've

01:26:16.930 --> 01:26:19.390
seen the other shows. What if the whole entire

01:26:19.390 --> 01:26:21.890
thing, and something that's kind of annoying

01:26:21.890 --> 01:26:23.510
about the show, is that they just kind of like,

01:26:23.569 --> 01:26:25.909
oh, hey, we made this cute reference to this

01:26:25.909 --> 01:26:28.729
other movie. Wink. I feel like there's so many

01:26:28.729 --> 01:26:31.229
moments in both episodes that the characters

01:26:31.229 --> 01:26:32.789
might have all just looked at the screen and

01:26:32.789 --> 01:26:36.279
winked. Like, ah, remember that? Ah, wink. Yeah,

01:26:36.340 --> 01:26:39.000
this is no longer that thing, Wink. It's just,

01:26:39.060 --> 01:26:41.399
oh, it's very self -referential. I mean, yes,

01:26:41.439 --> 01:26:44.760
it is by its very nature, but, you know. There's

01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:48.239
some fun visual payoffs, though, if you come

01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:50.800
to it. So I haven't seen the first one, and obviously

01:26:50.800 --> 01:26:54.159
the second one came out today. I'm on my way

01:26:54.159 --> 01:26:57.159
to watch it soon -ish. I don't know when exactly,

01:26:57.359 --> 01:26:59.460
because I'm on 12 -hour days next week. Yay!

01:27:01.520 --> 01:27:03.439
But I will watch it eventually. I'm intrigued

01:27:03.439 --> 01:27:06.560
to see what I think of it. Because I think I

01:27:06.560 --> 01:27:08.720
feel very much like you guys usually do about

01:27:08.720 --> 01:27:14.779
it. But we'll see. We'll see. My dad watched

01:27:14.779 --> 01:27:19.140
Loki. It's the only Marvel property he has engaged

01:27:19.140 --> 01:27:21.680
with. So he actually asked me about the what

01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:23.600
ifs. And I'm like, if you didn't care about Loki,

01:27:23.760 --> 01:27:27.119
you're going to care even less about these. I

01:27:27.119 --> 01:27:29.680
would like to see your dad's opinion. On the

01:27:29.680 --> 01:27:31.920
Marvel movies. No, on the Marvel movies. No interest.

01:27:32.619 --> 01:27:35.140
I want him to watch. If we can convince him.

01:27:35.180 --> 01:27:38.060
He can come on the show regularly. Say the last

01:27:38.060 --> 01:27:40.939
Marvel movie he saw. I'm in for that. The only

01:27:40.939 --> 01:27:46.079
Marvel movie that I think I can get him to sit

01:27:46.079 --> 01:27:52.199
down to watch is two. Winter Soldier and Ragnarok.

01:27:52.520 --> 01:27:55.680
Because Ragnarok is the hard sci -fi that he

01:27:55.680 --> 01:27:59.560
just likes. I still am in. If you can get him

01:27:59.560 --> 01:28:01.659
to watch any of the Marvel movies, have him as

01:28:01.659 --> 01:28:06.640
a guest. Bad idea. You're going to regret those

01:28:06.640 --> 01:28:09.079
words. All right. Well, I'm still intrigued,

01:28:09.239 --> 01:28:13.640
but it's fun. So, well, that's our Cash or Trash.

01:28:13.720 --> 01:28:15.880
If you have anything that you think is Cash or

01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:18.180
Trash, let us know. As well as let us know what

01:28:18.180 --> 01:28:21.880
bad movies we should watch next. We're out of

01:28:21.880 --> 01:28:25.479
our bet now, so we might have to put more bad

01:28:25.479 --> 01:28:28.859
movies on the line. We'll see. Or we can just

01:28:28.859 --> 01:28:30.819
listen to you guys, the audience. You guys have

01:28:30.819 --> 01:28:34.260
suggestions as well. A lot of people commented

01:28:34.260 --> 01:28:39.260
on my first GIF post of the boat and said that

01:28:39.260 --> 01:28:42.619
the bad movie we're watching is Titanic. Damn.

01:28:43.060 --> 01:28:47.010
That's a take. Yeah. I don't care for Titanic

01:28:47.010 --> 01:28:52.090
myself, but I also understand why it's a good

01:28:52.090 --> 01:28:56.890
movie. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. But if you've

01:28:56.890 --> 01:28:58.829
got bad movies for us, we're happy to listen

01:28:58.829 --> 01:29:02.550
and put Andre, maybe you're next, maybe Mitchell's

01:29:02.550 --> 01:29:05.170
next, maybe it's Jill or I again. We'll see what

01:29:05.170 --> 01:29:08.210
happens. So for myself, Mike Butanik, I have

01:29:08.210 --> 01:29:12.069
been joined by Andre. Jill. We'll see you next

01:29:12.069 --> 01:29:13.909
time on Game for a Movie where we ask, are you

01:29:13.909 --> 01:29:16.510
game for a movie? Bye. Bye.