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You know what that sound means? It's another

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episode of Game for a Movie where we ask, are

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you game for a movie? My name is Mike. I'll be

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your host. I am joined by a very special guest.

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Welcome to the show, Sergio. Welcome, buddy.

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Thanks, dude. It's good to be here. This felt

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like a good one to have you come on for. I appreciate

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it. I don't know much about the Silent Hill games,

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but I have seen my fair share of gaming movies.

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And so I thought... And as far as I know, this

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isn't a part of... I mean, are there other Silent

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Hill movies? I'm assuming there probably is some

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B -movie ones, right? I think there's one or

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two other ones. This is the one that came to

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mind just because I knew this one was horrible.

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But I think there's one or two other ones that

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kind of... None of them are like blockbuster

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have to watch movies. This one, definitely not.

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Yeah, I was going to say. Especially because

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this one was like shot for 3D, but they went

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full gimmick on this one. Whenever we have somebody

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new on the show, I have to ask you, what is the

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worst movie you have ever seen? Man, so that

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one. that's tough because I'm going to, I guess

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I have two kind of philosophies on like what

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I consider really bad. So, and one of them, you

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know, but it's just because I'm a mortal combat

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fan, the annihilation movies up there, but that's

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like worst movie that I enjoy partially because

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I'm, because I'm a fan of the franchise. So I

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know what it could be, but it's just so bad that

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it's good. But honestly, after watching this

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movie, As far as recent memory, this is up there

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too. Okay. And maybe I'll hate it more than you

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because you've seen a lot more bad movies. You

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know what I mean? I think you're going to be

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surprised with my ranking, but I think it does

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because of the bad movies I've seen. I think

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this one is going to be like a bias in the fact

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that I've seen so much worse. That's what I'm

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thinking. Yeah. Yeah. I think this is going to

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be a weird one at the end with our rankings.

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Okay. Well, that's good then. I guess add some

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controversy. Yeah, right. We also talk about

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what we are drinking. It is actually 2 .15 in

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the afternoon on a Monday. And I still feel a

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little hungover from Saturday. So I am actually,

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this is a weird one for me. I am drinking a Coca

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-Cola. I'm not going too crazy to start off my

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Monday. I don't know if you have anything over

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there or if you have plans tonight. Is there

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anything you're drinking over there? Water is

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fine or anything like that. I have a bloom sparkling

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energy drink just because I wanted to try different,

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something different. And you know, Jackie from

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work, she was, she's put me on. So I was like,

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you know what? I'll give it a try as a peach

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mango flavor. So there you go. That wouldn't

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be against a beer right now, but there's no judgment.

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I know I said 215 on a Monday. There's no judgment.

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Sometimes, especially on an off day, you'd catch

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me with a beer. As I said before, I'm still recovering

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from Saturday. The Bears played. I was a little

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my friend. GFAM. All right, let's talk this bad

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movie. This bad movie is Silent Hill Revelation

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3D. Came out in 2012. I was going to have this

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all ready, and I did not have it ready. It is

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an hour and 35 minutes, rated R, directed and

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written by M .J. Bassett. M .J. Bassett is English,

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actually. He's from the UK. And she is known

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for being a director of four episodes of Power,

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four episodes of Ash vs. Evil Dead, a couple

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episodes of Strike Back. A lot of TV is what

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I will say on this one. Not a whole lot of movie

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opportunities, but a lot of TV. I don't know

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who this person is. And the other writer on this

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one is Laurent Hadida. And then you've got the

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actual writer of the series. I am going to butcher

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the hell out of this. Hiroyuki Owaku. That sounded,

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I mean. Sounded okay? Sounds right to me, yeah.

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But I'm not looking at it. All right, all right.

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I feel okay about that one. Yeah. Sergio, did

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you know that this movie was nominated for one,

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two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight awards?

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no what are they bad awards they gotta be bad

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awards um actually no or the costume maybe like

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the makeup a lot of costume and makeup and then

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some uh some film or uh scores oh okay i mean

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the music was interesting i was actually kind

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of surprised that a lot of how i knew a lot of

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the music and like uh motifs like auditory motifs

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i guess whatever i had heard so many from like

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tiktok and other videos and other things like

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uh the little piano score that plays like i think

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towards the end and then there's like a that

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weird sound effect that you hear in like every

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scary video on tiktok or whatever it's like uh

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it sounds like I don't even know, but I'm sure

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people that, you know, you play the movie, I

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think it plays in the first like five minutes.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, it's got a lot

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of like best makeup, best visual effects, best

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makeup, costume design, and then a couple like

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best score, sound editing kind of things. There's,

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there is one for best film. I do kind of want

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to see the nominees for this one. I, I don't

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know about that one. Ironically, how does that

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work? Does it just one person have to vote for

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that? I will say it's like, it's a horror specific

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one. So this was 2012. So it just kind of, who

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was competing? I feel like it wasn't, that seems

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like it would be around the same time as like

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maybe the first insidious though, or some other,

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like, well, I will say, I think the one that

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won was cabinet in the woods. So. i mean that

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was that was a good one i don't i don't think

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i was gonna say um it feels like there was a

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it wasn't we weren't starving for horror movies

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at that time so hearing that that was even nominated

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right but that's just from what i remember right

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like it feels like a weird one to have someone

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really like silent hill it also feels weird that

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i think it's just like lumped together with a

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bunch of other movies this is very strange because

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like It's okay. So this is, let me go up to the

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top here. This is the Rondo Hatton classic horror

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awards, but in the best film category, there's

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like 20 films nominated. And I don't have all

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of these as horror because the winner was cabin

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in the woods. There's also like the woman in

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black, but then you also got movies like the

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dark night rises, the Avengers. I don't have

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those as horror. Classic horror movies. Yeah,

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right. The Hobbit, An Unexpected Journey, The

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Hunger Games. But then you get things like Paranorman,

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The Possession, Prometheus, The Raven. Yeah,

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okay. Those don't feel... I don't even know.

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I don't think those feel like horror movies to

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me. Some of those. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,

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doesn't feel the relevance. Some of the people

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in this movie, Adelaide Clemens, Kit Harington,

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Sean Bean. We've got Malcolm McDowell and Carrie

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Ann Moss. It's a very who's who movie that I

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was kind of not expecting. All of a sudden was

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like, and this person's in it. What? Why is this

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person in it? It felt like there was like seven

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actors. Yeah. It felt like there was like, and

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you, they were pretty much. yeah i mean and some

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of them felt like they were only in it for a

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little bit too right like um the the pi guy the

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private investigator at the beginning i was like

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oh he seems like he's gonna be important maybe

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he's gonna be a hallucination the whole time

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and he he definitely felt like a bigger deal

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and then all of a sudden he was killed off immediately

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yeah i didn't know if i'm allowed to say that

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he dies or not i was like oh we're gonna spoil

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it all like we're gonna go through every last

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detail so that people you don't have to watch

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this movie we did it for you i wouldn't yeah

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i definitely wouldn't yeah uh it is estimated

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that it was a 20 million dollar budget uh the

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gross the gross worldwide was 55 million so it

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did make its money back i don't know how much

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they put into like marketing and stuff so i don't

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know how much it made but at least by those numbers

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it does look like it did make its money back

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uh rotten tomatoes numbers the reason we can

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watch this movie eight percent critic score 35

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audience score yeah i mean it's just I that's

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why I guess when you ask like the bad movie like

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what's the worst movie it's it wasn't fun you

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know what I mean like it it felt like it was

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just moving you through like set pieces and then

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it was just like I felt like I missed the whole

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scene like from scene to scene I was like what's

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going on but the crazy part is that the beginning

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is just straight exposition like even with sean

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bean having like the hallucination of um i guess

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it was his wife i can't like i'm trying to follow

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and like he's just like he's saying it out loud

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what like the the viewer needs to know because

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it's like i guess we're entering this video game

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world and and once again like they think that

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the audience is too dumb to figure these things

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out and like inadvertently makes it more confusing

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by just saying as much information instead of

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like trying to like teach it or show it you know

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i guess it's like tell or show don't tell right

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and i don't get anything because it's like oh

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well now we're in the next scene she's at school

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and she's being bullied for no reason uh yeah

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exactly and like that whole thing with the uh

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the wife and everything too i was a little confused

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by because i thought he was like visiting her

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present day And then it became, like, abundantly

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clear it was the scene about she was sacrificing

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herself to save the daughter. Uh -huh. So, like,

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I don't know. It was very confusing. Yes, that's

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a good way of putting it. This movie was very

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confusing. Let's start at the beginning and kind

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of, like, go into the details of what this movie

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was. So, if you want to watch this movie, as

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always, this is your spoiler warning. We're going

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to tell you everything about this movie so you

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don't have to watch it. I think you're going

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to be okay in the fact that you don't want to

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watch it. The first thing that caught me off

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guard was that this is Shout Studios. That is

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a great sign that this was going to be a terrible

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movie. Shout Studios has produced a ton of movies

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that are just kind of low budget. We've covered

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plenty of their movies before. As soon as that

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came up, I was like, cool. I know what I'm in

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for. I don't know if you've seen any of that

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and knew, but as soon as I saw that, I was just

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like, oh, buckle up. We're ready. And it starts

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with the dream sequence that basically she was

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at a... She was at an amusement park and she

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was being chased by it seemed like a cult. And

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this cult was I don't know why they were chasing

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her but she was running from them and just like

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seeing things and it was just kind of like flashy

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kind of thing. I knew it was a dream immediately

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because of the way it was kind of shown and everything

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like that and one of the things we also see is

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this little girl and we know that that this girl

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or i guess she's not really a little girl at

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this point she was like um a teenager probably

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right yeah i think so they show her like in two

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different ages right right throughout the movie

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Yeah, so she's being chased, and this girl is

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able to use fire and catches her on fire, and

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then she wakes up. The girl being chased is our

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main character, who is... This is what's going

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to be confusing. Her real name is Sharon, and

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she is being played by Adelaide... What's her

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last name? Adelaide... I didn't know her from

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anything else, to be honest. Adelaide Clemens.

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She's from Australia. She was in Great Gatsby

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as Catherine. That makes sense that she's Australian

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because her accent did come out a couple times.

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I kept looking at her. I was just like, she looks

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so familiar, but she looks kind of Carey Mulligan

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-esque. When I saw that she was also in Great

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Gatsby, that threw me more. Yeah. But yeah, so

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she's in Great Gatsby. She's been in a couple

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other things. Not a lot of things that I recognize,

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but she's been in a couple other things. Yeah.

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So she's told it's going to be okay by her father,

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Sean Bean. Yeah. Cool. I don't know why they

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went with him. to be honest. Maybe he looks like

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a character from the games, but having him do

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an American accent was just weird. It's very

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strange. It barely sounded American at times.

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It almost sounds like he's going to go Irish.

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I don't know. It was interesting to bring him

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in. How old did you think Sharon was? I'm asking

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you specifically. Sharon is the main character,

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right? Heather? Yes, Sharon, Heather. So they're

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running from people. We don't know who at this

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point, so they have multiple names. Her name

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is either Sharon or Heather. That's going to

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be very confusing, but Sharon, Heather. That's

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for the listeners out there. We might refer to

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her as Sharon. We might refer to her as Heather.

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I definitely thought she was like... 20 -something,

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like 25 maybe. But clearly the 2000s, they love

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casting way older people for high school. When

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they wake up, because there is a part where Sean

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Bean does get stabbed. They keep telling her

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not to go back to Silent Hill in these dreams.

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That's the only important thing about these dreams.

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Don't go to Silent Hill. When they finally wake

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up, It's her 18th birthday. And I literally included,

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wait, this fucking 40 year old is 18. Yeah. Yeah.

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And like, and she sat on his lap, which was like

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very jarring. Yes. I would not have been surprised

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if they were like married and going through a

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separation and like sleeping in different beds

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like that. That's how I would have been more

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convinced of that than she was in high school.

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uh i also was thrown off by the fact it's her

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birthday and he got her a fucking vest yeah and

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it was she again it's like they just have to

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like spoon feed you they're like oh yeah i saw

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you looking at it blah blah blah and the it's

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like we have no attachment or even care we didn't

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see that scene it was just like oh he cares about

00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:57.519
her he pays attention to what she likes because

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this vest that anybody else would have been like

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okay what And what did the vest matter? Like

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that's, that also didn't matter. I don't, Oh,

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I feel like the character in the game wore the

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vest and maybe that's why they did that. But

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I couldn't tell you for certain. I thought it

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was going to be like, Oh, had something like,

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I was like, did I, was I supposed to pay attention

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to something in a dream? Was she wearing it in

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the dream? Like, is this going to be later? Gave

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them way too much credit on what, what it was

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going to mean. And that's what I thought, too.

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Maybe that was it. I don't know. Yeah, I don't

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know where that came in, what it was or anything

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like that. Maybe. I don't know. She goes to school,

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and he starts reading this notebook with stuff

00:18:45.490 --> 00:18:48.029
about Silent Hill, and then there's a box. And

00:18:48.029 --> 00:18:51.750
he puts the notebook stuff in the box with all

00:18:51.750 --> 00:18:54.750
this stuff about Silent Hill. And then he starts

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seeing his old wife, Rose, and this was the scene

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we were talking about. I didn't know if that

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was him seeing her or if that was like, oh, this

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is when we put it together. Like, this is when

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she made the sacrifice to save Sharon Heather

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so that she could get out of Silent Hill. While

00:19:18.529 --> 00:19:21.609
Heather Sharon is walking to school, I'm just

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going to call her Sharon Heather, Heather Sharon,

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whatever. Like, that's just what I got to do.

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Sharon's what the PI calls her? Is that how we

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find out Sharon is her other name? Yes. I made

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a note that he was yelling Sharon at her. Yeah.

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While she's walking to school, the PI catches

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up with her and is just like, hey, I know you.

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She's like, no, you don't. Like, the fuck you

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do. Which, if you're a PI, that's a... terrible

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way to go about it isn't it i think so it seems

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like you'd want to be more you know hidden and

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then because she says no you don't he's like

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no i'm pretty sure i do like and it's like how

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does this help you at all like yeah anyways you're

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just supposed to follow her like you're not supposed

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to like interact or anything unless you want

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to like okay i work for the order i want to get

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you out of here no which he right he was just

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reporting right i think to them later on he's

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like oh i told them where you're at and then

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it's like okay so at what point did it benefit

00:20:35.619 --> 00:20:38.819
you to tell her that you're in on this but right

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there was nothing you were supposed to report

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and like they probably killed you yeah that's

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all i was gonna say and then you end up dying

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right um this is her first day of the new school

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because she's moved around everything like that

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uh the speech there's no way that would have

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happened in class that she gets asked to introduce

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herself to the class and she doesn't want to

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tell anything about herself because she's like

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i just introduced myself i'm heather you know

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that kind of stuff and one of the girls is like

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do you always shop at uh goodwill yeah yeah which

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yeah people do that all the time now especially

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right like who cares the teacher doesn't do shit

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either the teacher's just like not even there

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right like she gives this whole big speech about

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like look i've moved to five different schools

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since i was 11 and now i'm 18 slash 40 um and

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like i'm not gonna facebook you i'm not gonna

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im you i don't care about you all this stuff

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and i'm just like that's honestly badass but

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no 18 year old is doing that they want to be

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popular or whatever no one's saying that even

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if they don't want that yeah she's independent

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right after movement everywhere but just yeah

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people want to be liked well it also introduces

00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:10.960
us to the other new kid uh vincent freaking kit

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harrington is he the worst part of the movie

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yes I was going to ask you that myself. He's

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I was like, yeah, like another person I like.

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Well, I mean, the only person I recognized so

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far in this movie is Sean Bean. Right. And I

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see Kit Harington. I'm like, it's like Game of

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Thrones. You've got both of them in here already.

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And then quickly you're like, oh, that's why

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he wasn't that famous yet. Because like his only

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job in the beginning is just a bitch and moan.

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and try to be her friend like so so badly for

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no reason too you're like what she she's being

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like rude to you and somehow you still want to

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be her friend but well and that's the thing too

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is like because he was trying so hard i'm like

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they're telegraphing this move like i'm not gonna

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spoil what's happening yet until we get there

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but i i knew what road we were going down yeah

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After that clash, she's walking down the hall

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and everyone starts disappearing. She starts

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seeing these visions. Her visions are getting

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a little more out of control. And she starts

00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:30.819
seeing this creature walking towards her, but

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she snaps out of it because Vincent sees her.

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And Vincent's trying to get her to go get coffee

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with him. but she's like, no, we have class.

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We can't do this. And then she walks out of the

00:23:44.619 --> 00:23:48.079
school anyway. That just was my favorite thing

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where it was just like, no, we can't do this.

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We can't go get coffee. We have class. And then

00:23:52.339 --> 00:23:56.519
she walks out of the class anyway and sees the

00:23:56.519 --> 00:23:58.920
weird guy who is the PI. We don't know that he's

00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:03.279
a PI yet, but she sees the weird guy and is like,

00:24:03.460 --> 00:24:06.339
okay, I'm being followed. I need to call dad.

00:24:06.539 --> 00:24:11.809
I need to call Harry, Sean Bean. And tells him

00:24:11.809 --> 00:24:19.130
to meet her at the mall. While he's on the phone.

00:24:19.650 --> 00:24:22.789
The doorknob starts rattling. So he goes to the

00:24:22.789 --> 00:24:26.170
back door. And the shadow engulfs the back door.

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And we don't know what happens to Harry. Yeah.

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I thought that was it for Sean Bean. I thought

00:24:35.730 --> 00:24:38.930
so too. Sean Bean fashion. He's out of the movie

00:24:38.930 --> 00:24:42.599
in the first. 20 minutes or game of thrones you

00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:46.559
know the first season it's a habit of killing

00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:51.099
sean bean yeah i don't know if it's still like

00:24:51.099 --> 00:24:57.420
the uh the case um if he's still number one um

00:24:57.420 --> 00:25:03.859
but it was for a while that like he was the number

00:25:03.859 --> 00:25:10.769
one celebrity that dies in movies Oh, Lord. And

00:25:10.769 --> 00:25:13.289
so I want to play a game with our listeners here.

00:25:16.190 --> 00:25:26.630
Do we think, listeners, that Sean Bean dies in

00:25:26.630 --> 00:25:33.109
this movie? I want you guys to guess and take

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a pick if you think that Sean Bean dies in this

00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:44.319
movie all right that's i just wanted i just wanted

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to to have you guys take a guess um according

00:25:49.539 --> 00:25:53.599
to imdb he's died on screen 25 times in movies

00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:59.579
hey yeah 25 times which is actually not too because

00:25:59.579 --> 00:26:02.200
i wonder i wonder how many movies he's done like

00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:07.589
right done 26 He's done a lot more, but it's

00:26:07.589 --> 00:26:10.269
funny because Christopher Lee is at 70 now, like

00:26:10.269 --> 00:26:14.150
on -screen deaths. Oh, dang. Yeah, so I'd like...

00:26:14.150 --> 00:26:19.710
It was a lot, but I guess it's not that many.

00:26:20.349 --> 00:26:23.369
Is Christopher Lee normally more of a villain

00:26:23.369 --> 00:26:27.470
role would be my question. Are those deaths kind

00:26:27.470 --> 00:26:29.849
of like they come with the... Because I think

00:26:29.849 --> 00:26:31.789
with Sean Bean, normally he dies. He's not even

00:26:31.789 --> 00:26:35.009
a bad guy, right? Right. Well, sometimes he is,

00:26:35.009 --> 00:26:41.420
for sure. Sometimes he is. Spoiler alert for

00:26:41.420 --> 00:26:46.380
GoldenEye. I don't know if I have to give a spoiler

00:26:46.380 --> 00:26:50.740
alert for that. John Hurt is 43. Christopher

00:26:50.740 --> 00:26:54.440
Lee is 70. Definitely a lot of his are being

00:26:54.440 --> 00:27:00.180
the bad guy. Bela Lugosi is 36. Vincent Price

00:27:00.180 --> 00:27:02.579
is 48. He's definitely a bad guy in a lot of

00:27:02.579 --> 00:27:07.029
those. Dennis Hopper is up to 48. Yeah, it looks

00:27:07.029 --> 00:27:10.089
like Sean Bean's on the low side now. Jeez. Yeah.

00:27:11.069 --> 00:27:17.630
Danny Trejo's 41? Records are meant to be broken.

00:27:17.710 --> 00:27:20.009
Can't be at the top forever. Seriously. Mark

00:27:20.009 --> 00:27:25.210
Hamill's 30. That's a lot, too. I mean, that's

00:27:25.210 --> 00:27:26.769
why I was like, I guess if you normally play

00:27:26.769 --> 00:27:28.730
a lot of bad guys, I would assume that that's

00:27:28.730 --> 00:27:30.450
just like... It comes with the territory, yeah.

00:27:30.970 --> 00:27:32.750
But if you're playing the good guy and dying

00:27:32.750 --> 00:27:35.779
a lot, then it's like, damn, you just... I'm

00:27:35.779 --> 00:27:39.220
wondering now if it's like Sean Bean died the

00:27:39.220 --> 00:27:43.500
most as like a good guy. I'm wondering because

00:27:43.500 --> 00:27:45.259
he has like Lord of the Rings and then like Game

00:27:45.259 --> 00:27:49.700
of Thrones, you know? Yeah, he normally plays

00:27:49.700 --> 00:27:51.839
the benevolent guy. Yeah, right. I don't know.

00:27:51.980 --> 00:27:57.380
Gets screwed anyways. Yeah, so I thought definitely

00:27:57.380 --> 00:28:00.000
this was a spot where either he was dead or at

00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:02.140
least he's been kidnapped to die later. So I

00:28:02.140 --> 00:28:08.549
don't know. Yeah. you know so uh this is this

00:28:08.549 --> 00:28:10.609
is the part where like it started getting weird

00:28:10.609 --> 00:28:14.789
at this part with the mall scene i didn't understand

00:28:14.789 --> 00:28:20.150
why we got to cannibalism i know it's a very

00:28:20.150 --> 00:28:23.690
weird statement but it is she got to the mall

00:28:23.690 --> 00:28:25.529
there happened to be like a birthday party and

00:28:25.529 --> 00:28:27.490
it just so happened to be for a girl named heather

00:28:27.490 --> 00:28:30.900
and then then it became alessa on the balloon

00:28:30.900 --> 00:28:33.000
like it floated around and it was like happy

00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:35.900
birthday alessa happy birthday heather and then

00:28:35.900 --> 00:28:39.240
the girls like at this party were like chowing

00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:42.880
down on like chewy human meat like long pig kind

00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:47.380
of stuff it was gross it was very gross uh scared

00:28:47.380 --> 00:28:49.400
her off and she's like running she ran to the

00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:51.599
back where like they were making the food and

00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:53.539
it looked like they were like cutting up a human

00:28:53.539 --> 00:28:59.450
and stuff and it was very gross um lots of cannibalisms

00:28:59.450 --> 00:29:01.750
kind of thing that she was seeing. We didn't

00:29:01.750 --> 00:29:04.250
know for sure, but pretty confident. It was just

00:29:04.250 --> 00:29:08.410
visions, more visions. Yeah. And then there was

00:29:08.410 --> 00:29:10.269
like stitch faces and stuff. I didn't know what

00:29:10.269 --> 00:29:11.990
to call half of these creatures, but it was like

00:29:11.990 --> 00:29:19.250
stitch faces. Yeah. I know kind of off, not related

00:29:19.250 --> 00:29:21.670
to the characters, but I thought it was weird

00:29:21.670 --> 00:29:24.029
how like these visions were kind of an excuse

00:29:24.029 --> 00:29:26.670
for them to move from like setting to setting.

00:29:27.150 --> 00:29:29.769
again like in a whiplash form because we're in

00:29:29.769 --> 00:29:31.589
the mall and then we're like in a back alley

00:29:31.589 --> 00:29:33.910
and then like warehouse and like all this shit

00:29:33.910 --> 00:29:36.509
and it just happens so quickly right these visions

00:29:36.509 --> 00:29:39.430
like like you said you know their visions but

00:29:39.430 --> 00:29:42.029
like the fact that they kind of bleed into like

00:29:42.029 --> 00:29:46.990
the the reality so much but i'm with you on that

00:29:46.990 --> 00:29:49.109
the creatures the creatures were all kind of

00:29:49.109 --> 00:29:51.789
like either their face missing eyes or like stitched

00:29:51.789 --> 00:29:55.730
faces or right um and with the cannibalism thing

00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:58.920
That felt just so outside of everything else.

00:29:59.140 --> 00:30:02.240
I don't know. They didn't really stick to it.

00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:05.019
Yeah, there was no real other mentions of cannibalism

00:30:05.019 --> 00:30:11.220
except for just this one scene. To shock, I guess.

00:30:11.380 --> 00:30:13.720
That's what it was for, just to shock people.

00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:17.180
It wasn't even a part of the 3D. It didn't work

00:30:17.180 --> 00:30:19.380
into the 3D element of it. Yeah, there really

00:30:19.380 --> 00:30:21.599
wasn't a part of the 3D until this next part.

00:30:24.180 --> 00:30:26.859
The private investigator's there. And he's yelling

00:30:26.859 --> 00:30:29.220
Sharon. And this is when we learn that her name

00:30:29.220 --> 00:30:35.500
is really Sharon. Sharon Heather. And he's like

00:30:35.500 --> 00:30:38.180
yelling and running after her while she's tripping

00:30:38.180 --> 00:30:44.440
balls. And he reveals that Harry has been lying

00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:50.579
to her the whole time. Like her whole life. Which

00:30:50.579 --> 00:30:55.970
he really hadn't. He said she was in an accident.

00:30:56.069 --> 00:30:58.210
Yeah, that was kind of a lie. But, like, how

00:30:58.210 --> 00:31:02.690
do you explain she's the child of a god and that

00:31:02.690 --> 00:31:05.509
an order is trying to steal her to take her back

00:31:05.509 --> 00:31:11.549
to Silent Hill? Yeah. She's only 18 still. Yeah,

00:31:11.569 --> 00:31:14.289
right. Like, I'm not saying that, like, okay,

00:31:14.329 --> 00:31:19.470
yeah, he did lie. But, like, he didn't really

00:31:19.470 --> 00:31:21.829
say anything other than just don't go to Silent

00:31:21.829 --> 00:31:24.440
Hill. I'm going to raise you. We have to be on

00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:30.779
the run. That's it. That's all you need or should

00:31:30.779 --> 00:31:33.220
know. Right. Like, yeah, I don't think he ever

00:31:33.220 --> 00:31:34.819
was like, I'm not going to tell you everything.

00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.359
It's just I'm here to protect you. I'm here to

00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:40.759
keep you safe. Yeah, that's that's what your

00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:44.680
mom wants. And she's gone. We have to respect

00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:47.400
her wishes because he's Sean Dean. Right. Like,

00:31:47.500 --> 00:31:51.200
yeah, the man of value. Yeah. And then this this

00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:54.200
guy's name is Douglas. I can't remember his last

00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:55.720
name. Doesn't matter. Private Investigator Douglas.

00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:01.380
And he was hired by the order of Valtiel to find

00:32:01.380 --> 00:32:05.200
her. And he's like, you need to get away. Like,

00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:07.359
I no longer want to help them. You need to get

00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:18.259
away. Why? Doesn't matter. Change of heart. Yeah,

00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:21.259
he's a good guy now. The magical change of heart.

00:32:23.169 --> 00:32:26.430
already been paid and he was like oh shit yeah

00:32:26.430 --> 00:32:31.789
um as he's saying this knife hand demon is just

00:32:31.789 --> 00:32:36.230
drops down and starts chasing after him uh he

00:32:36.230 --> 00:32:39.609
knife hand demon chops off douglas's fingers

00:32:39.609 --> 00:32:44.829
which is 3d yep they remembered it's a 3d movie

00:32:44.829 --> 00:32:46.849
at this point this is this is the part they remembered

00:32:46.849 --> 00:32:50.890
as a 3d movie uh they somehow end up in an elevator

00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.359
and knife hand demon jumps down and starts like

00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:59.220
chop it like chopping at the top of it um but

00:32:59.220 --> 00:33:02.059
they escape they're they're down at the bottom

00:33:02.059 --> 00:33:05.680
of this elevator and they they can get out and

00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:10.799
run away and douglas can help them and she opens

00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:13.000
the door she gets out and she's like come on

00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.599
let me help you and then knife hand demon pops

00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:18.940
up grabs him takes him away we don't see him

00:33:18.940 --> 00:33:24.740
die but it's off screen and she runs away down

00:33:24.740 --> 00:33:29.059
a dark hallway and somehow the police get there

00:33:29.059 --> 00:33:34.799
real fast yeah yeah so as she escapes the mall

00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:38.700
they're like wheeling his body out uh there's

00:33:38.700 --> 00:33:41.940
detectives there already and they find that his

00:33:41.940 --> 00:33:44.839
wallet they see who he is they already know that

00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:47.500
he's a private investigator and they also find

00:33:47.500 --> 00:33:52.160
her jacket with her ID that says Heather and

00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.799
they know that they need to find her which she

00:33:55.799 --> 00:34:00.420
was just right there yeah uh but guess who shows

00:34:00.420 --> 00:34:04.299
up randomly at this mall the guy you need to

00:34:04.299 --> 00:34:10.980
move the plot along Vincent yeah oh my god yay

00:34:10.980 --> 00:34:15.199
Vincent but she's bordering on stalker at this

00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:18.199
point yep definitely like how do you know where

00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:22.219
to be at all times yeah at least douglas i mean

00:34:22.219 --> 00:34:24.380
yeah he was kind of stalkerish too but at least

00:34:24.380 --> 00:34:26.099
he's a private investigator he can get away with

00:34:26.099 --> 00:34:30.159
it yeah he's getting paid yeah exactly cool so

00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:34.260
vincent finds her he's walking her home and then

00:34:34.260 --> 00:34:37.960
they they get on a bus um and they start having

00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:40.179
this like serious conversation about like dreams

00:34:40.179 --> 00:34:43.619
and reality and he's like you should see my crazy

00:34:43.619 --> 00:34:48.369
grandfather The thing that all girls want to

00:34:48.369 --> 00:34:51.909
be told is like, hey, you're being perfectly

00:34:51.909 --> 00:34:54.889
valid, but also my crazy grandfather is perfectly

00:34:54.889 --> 00:35:02.309
valid too. I don't know if you've ever used that

00:35:02.309 --> 00:35:07.550
move before, but don't. Don't try it. Yeah. Probably

00:35:07.550 --> 00:35:09.969
not going to work. Especially if you have the

00:35:09.969 --> 00:35:17.460
Kit Harington charisma. Yeah, right. So he walks

00:35:17.460 --> 00:35:19.900
her all the way home. She gets home. She gets

00:35:19.900 --> 00:35:22.440
in. She sees their dad's not there. And she sees

00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:25.659
there's blood on the wall saying, come to Silent

00:35:25.659 --> 00:35:32.440
Hill, along with a little symbol. She screams

00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:35.840
and the doorknob starts rattling again. But don't

00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.900
worry. It's everyone's favorite stalker. It's

00:35:38.900 --> 00:35:41.880
just Vincent. Heather knows about the box upstairs,

00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:46.340
so she goes to it, opens it, finds a letter that

00:35:46.340 --> 00:35:50.900
says basically, like, for Sharon. Heather Sharon,

00:35:51.099 --> 00:35:58.440
whatever her name is. And, yeah. They're going

00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:00.579
to grab stuff from the box, and they're going

00:36:00.579 --> 00:36:05.280
to go and try to go to Silent Hill and find Harry,

00:36:05.460 --> 00:36:12.610
her father. Even though all of her dreams, all

00:36:12.610 --> 00:36:15.409
of what Harry's ever said to her is don't go

00:36:15.409 --> 00:36:22.969
to Silent Hill. Smart plan, right? Yeah, I mean,

00:36:22.989 --> 00:36:26.369
it's the only way the plot was ever going to

00:36:26.369 --> 00:36:28.769
go is to Silent Hill, especially with how much

00:36:28.769 --> 00:36:31.989
they made it seem like from the jump, like don't

00:36:31.989 --> 00:36:34.760
go to Silent Hill. I feel like they could have

00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.519
just left out up until this point. It could have

00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:39.500
been later referenced. Like, oh, yeah, he told

00:36:39.500 --> 00:36:41.380
me a long time ago I shouldn't go to Silent Hill.

00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:44.679
But up until this point, they've told you. Basically,

00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.619
you've known it's going to go there. Don't go.

00:36:48.340 --> 00:36:50.579
Don't go. It's been beaten over the head for

00:36:50.579 --> 00:36:56.420
you. At the same time, the detectives are knocking

00:36:56.420 --> 00:37:00.369
on the door, trying to get in. Because they're

00:37:00.369 --> 00:37:03.030
looking for who killed the private investigator.

00:37:04.570 --> 00:37:07.849
And so she needs somebody to drive her because

00:37:07.849 --> 00:37:14.050
she doesn't know how to drive. At age 40, doesn't

00:37:14.050 --> 00:37:17.269
know how to drive. Or 18, I guess. At age 40.

00:37:19.030 --> 00:37:21.230
Like, Harry's prepared her for a lot of things.

00:37:21.309 --> 00:37:22.869
Like, she knows how to shoot a gun, we learn.

00:37:23.369 --> 00:37:27.690
Yeah, pretty well. Yeah. But she doesn't know

00:37:27.690 --> 00:37:33.719
how to drive? Like Harry knows the order is probably

00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:36.300
going to come chasing after her eventually and

00:37:36.300 --> 00:37:40.119
didn't teach her how to drive. Yeah. Didn't have

00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:44.480
a whole lot of time, I guess. Right. I'm not

00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.480
even talking about like, okay, if you're not

00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:50.610
going to go driving well. Yeah. If you're not

00:37:50.610 --> 00:37:53.210
going to go through gaining an ID, fine. I get

00:37:53.210 --> 00:37:56.750
that. You don't want to have an ID license on

00:37:56.750 --> 00:37:59.469
the record or whatever because you go from town

00:37:59.469 --> 00:38:01.989
to town changing names. Fine. I didn't think

00:38:01.989 --> 00:38:05.030
about that. Yeah, I thought about that. But still,

00:38:05.389 --> 00:38:10.090
just go do donuts in the parking lot. Yeah, just

00:38:10.090 --> 00:38:13.050
know at least how to get behind the wheel. Yeah,

00:38:13.269 --> 00:38:16.329
hot wire car or something. I don't know. They're

00:38:16.329 --> 00:38:19.260
probably living. outside of the law to some degree

00:38:19.260 --> 00:38:21.800
anyways i would assume right like if you're have

00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:25.079
multiple identities you probably he has a way

00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:28.119
to make doing things legally yeah so i don't

00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:30.599
understand yeah should know how to drive right

00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:33.980
she had the id on her that they were able to

00:38:33.980 --> 00:38:36.760
see next to the private investigator in her jacket

00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:40.059
to know hey she's the one that probably killed

00:38:40.059 --> 00:38:48.539
him yeah like yeah i mean that that yeah i didn't

00:38:48.539 --> 00:38:51.619
even think about that that's a good kind of like

00:38:51.619 --> 00:38:54.960
just oopsie but we need it for the plot to move

00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.940
it along this is this is why i go like way down

00:38:57.940 --> 00:38:59.800
the rabbit hole on these fucking movies like

00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.119
i think way too much down these that they didn't

00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:06.739
even do yeah i well i think also they're just

00:39:06.739 --> 00:39:10.179
like they're banking on all the other like things

00:39:10.179 --> 00:39:13.380
like it being 3d and being a game movie and like

00:39:13.380 --> 00:39:15.960
you know having a fan base it just wants to but

00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:18.659
they don't really think about making it uh even

00:39:18.659 --> 00:39:22.940
coherent you know right movie because movie yeah

00:39:22.940 --> 00:39:25.659
just leave plot holes people they won't think

00:39:25.659 --> 00:39:28.599
about it too hard except some people will and

00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:34.480
yeah that's a part yep um so they get in the

00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:36.960
car and they're going to drive to silent hill

00:39:37.340 --> 00:39:39.360
which, again, they were told not to do. And she

00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:41.960
reads the letter for Sharon. And this is a big

00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:46.719
exposition dump. They're told that they are waiting

00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:49.280
for a child to be born there to be a vessel for

00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:52.300
their god. I'm guessing it's supposed to be Sharon

00:39:52.300 --> 00:39:59.699
slash Heather. The god is also Alessa, it mentions.

00:39:59.900 --> 00:40:06.550
Like, that's part of the person, too. I'm with

00:40:06.550 --> 00:40:09.429
you on this movie is sometimes confusing. Cause

00:40:09.429 --> 00:40:14.369
like I was thinking Alessa was the God, but she's

00:40:14.369 --> 00:40:20.630
just, she's just part of the child. Yeah, I think.

00:40:20.630 --> 00:40:25.130
And I don't, I don't know because like, I think

00:40:25.130 --> 00:40:31.489
in the games, like the character is. like alessa

00:40:31.489 --> 00:40:33.849
is a part of the the games but i don't even know

00:40:33.849 --> 00:40:36.150
if it's like the same plot lines because in this

00:40:36.150 --> 00:40:38.150
movie it made it seem like the main character

00:40:38.150 --> 00:40:41.110
is kind of an extension of alessa or something

00:40:41.110 --> 00:40:42.909
right because she's like i'm you or something

00:40:42.909 --> 00:40:46.630
i don't right yeah like i i think i can explain

00:40:46.630 --> 00:40:50.389
that at the end i think i kind of put it together

00:40:50.389 --> 00:40:55.469
but i don't know it's just i don't know again

00:40:55.469 --> 00:40:58.519
it's just so fucking i don't even know if i could

00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:01.300
swear it's so like oh you can swear yeah oh no

00:41:01.300 --> 00:41:05.719
we we earn that e we earn that explicit it's

00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:08.539
so violently like whiplash with just like some

00:41:08.539 --> 00:41:11.119
of the things that decides to just dump on on

00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:13.760
you exposition wise right and then some of the

00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:16.099
stuff it just expects you to put together like

00:41:16.099 --> 00:41:20.940
oh and like i don't know it was just i that whole

00:41:20.940 --> 00:41:24.539
character was confusing like the less of like

00:41:24.539 --> 00:41:29.380
why i should even care right i i agree with that

00:41:29.380 --> 00:41:31.760
no i'm with you at that um i'm curious as to

00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:35.800
what you interpreted from from that whole dynamic

00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:39.199
because like at the end i think the payoff didn't

00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:41.679
didn't work for me because i just was not following

00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.000
that whole i'm definitely with you on that i

00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:47.500
i agree that it's definitely not uh we definitely

00:41:47.500 --> 00:41:50.400
didn't piece it together until the end and it

00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:53.519
didn't pay off um Yeah, I'm with you on that.

00:41:53.699 --> 00:41:56.079
The only other thing I want to bring about the

00:41:56.079 --> 00:42:00.019
drive is that God is to bring a world of darkness

00:42:00.019 --> 00:42:01.940
with creatures released into the world, including

00:42:01.940 --> 00:42:06.199
Pyramid Head, who is said to be the protector

00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:12.679
and executioner of the God. That's the only thing

00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:14.960
that I want to... Because I made a note of that,

00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:18.019
and I remembered it later on. Because I don't

00:42:18.019 --> 00:42:19.920
even think she made a note of that later on.

00:42:21.019 --> 00:42:24.019
Yeah. Because they're still kind of scared of

00:42:24.019 --> 00:42:27.099
the character. Right. And I don't think she should

00:42:27.099 --> 00:42:29.719
have been. I read that as Pyramid Head is going

00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:36.519
to protect her. And she seemed confused by that.

00:42:36.659 --> 00:42:39.179
And I was like, no, bitch, I think you're good.

00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:44.380
I think he's on your side. I think you should

00:42:44.380 --> 00:42:46.699
not be afraid of Pyramid Head. I think you're

00:42:46.699 --> 00:42:49.880
good. I think you're okay. I think that was also

00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:52.119
part of the subversion they thought they were

00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:56.619
delivering on. I think even in the dream sequence

00:42:56.619 --> 00:42:59.860
in the beginning, he's never really the threat

00:42:59.860 --> 00:43:04.320
in the dream sequence. He's being manipulated

00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:14.360
and used to crank the carousel. He's being used,

00:43:14.579 --> 00:43:22.039
I think. So, like, by the order. Yeah. Yeah,

00:43:22.099 --> 00:43:24.940
so I think he wants revenge on the order, even.

00:43:24.980 --> 00:43:28.239
Like, I was kind of thinking that at the beginning

00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:32.760
when I'm seeing he has, like, hooks in him. It

00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:35.239
felt very Hellraiser, if you want to know the

00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:39.099
truth. Yeah. I think that it was a lot of inspired

00:43:39.099 --> 00:43:41.980
by that. Yeah, especially the knife demon. I

00:43:41.980 --> 00:43:46.599
think she looked very Hellraiser. Yeah. I forgot

00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:48.099
what they're called in the Hellraiser universe,

00:43:48.300 --> 00:43:50.260
but it felt like this could be an extension of

00:43:50.260 --> 00:43:53.780
that. Cenobites. I couldn't remember the beginning

00:43:53.780 --> 00:43:56.019
of it. I knew Bytes. I couldn't remember the

00:43:56.019 --> 00:43:58.940
Cenobites part. Yeah, it feels almost like an

00:43:58.940 --> 00:44:02.380
extension of those. Right. All right. This is

00:44:02.380 --> 00:44:04.780
the part, like, I know we need to cover it, but

00:44:04.780 --> 00:44:06.519
I just want to skip through it because it honestly

00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.500
made things more confusing. The part at the inn.

00:44:11.420 --> 00:44:14.019
So they stop at an inn because Vincent's tired.

00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:17.440
and he's just like i think you're right i think

00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:19.219
your dad's right we shouldn't go to silent hill

00:44:19.219 --> 00:44:23.960
he believes that she's innocent and she shouldn't

00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:28.179
go back to silent hill and the reason is because

00:44:28.179 --> 00:44:31.219
he's a child of the order too and this is where

00:44:31.219 --> 00:44:34.440
we get like where i thought it was going the

00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.360
whole time he's supposed to be watching sharon

00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:43.019
heather And basically he starts talking about

00:44:43.019 --> 00:44:45.920
she needs the two pieces of the seal to save

00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:49.519
her father, which Vincent's grandfather has.

00:44:49.699 --> 00:44:54.900
So she needs to go to the asylum. He wants to

00:44:54.900 --> 00:44:57.679
help her because he believes that she's the innocent

00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:04.019
part of Alessa. The darkness came to the hotel

00:45:04.019 --> 00:45:08.579
room and took Vincent and stabbed him, but left

00:45:08.579 --> 00:45:11.559
the piece of the seal. that she needs to save

00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:14.059
her father i just want to get that out quickly

00:45:14.059 --> 00:45:16.380
because honestly i think that confused me more

00:45:16.380 --> 00:45:21.380
than it helped me yeah i mean the pacing like

00:45:21.380 --> 00:45:23.699
up until this point has been just like get everything

00:45:23.699 --> 00:45:26.599
in front of you and then i feel like they realize

00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:29.860
they still only you know i don't think they ever

00:45:29.860 --> 00:45:31.940
thought this movie was going to be like too long

00:45:31.940 --> 00:45:34.860
right they just had to just keep but yeah that

00:45:34.860 --> 00:45:37.500
i had to rewind that part a little bit because

00:45:37.500 --> 00:45:40.590
i think that's where like i know you broke it

00:45:40.590 --> 00:45:42.489
into two halves i think i broke this movie into

00:45:42.489 --> 00:45:44.150
two halves i think that's where i had kind of

00:45:44.150 --> 00:45:46.989
picked up and i was like hold on i just missed

00:45:46.989 --> 00:45:49.590
more of this movie at some point right i had

00:45:49.590 --> 00:45:51.610
to rewind it and that was the part i was started

00:45:51.610 --> 00:45:54.190
falling asleep on the couch that's why i broke

00:45:54.190 --> 00:45:57.630
it into two parts is because vincent bored me

00:45:57.630 --> 00:46:00.809
and that was that was exactly why i was falling

00:46:00.809 --> 00:46:04.230
asleep because i knew where it was going with

00:46:04.230 --> 00:46:10.989
him being part of this shit you know how like

00:46:10.989 --> 00:46:13.829
you can see a whole character's arc like when

00:46:13.829 --> 00:46:17.969
they're first introduced yeah i knew as soon

00:46:17.969 --> 00:46:19.670
as like he was trying to get with her i'm like

00:46:19.670 --> 00:46:22.570
this dude's part of this but he also is going

00:46:22.570 --> 00:46:25.349
to have like a redemption arc and like he's going

00:46:25.349 --> 00:46:27.670
to be part of saving the day and they're gonna

00:46:27.670 --> 00:46:30.570
kiss or something or what what have you and i'm

00:46:30.570 --> 00:46:33.289
just like this dude i can see everything from

00:46:33.289 --> 00:46:36.349
the beginning he's an asshat i don't like this

00:46:36.349 --> 00:46:39.429
guy and i think the fact he gets introduced at

00:46:39.429 --> 00:46:42.030
the same time she does like if they treated it

00:46:42.030 --> 00:46:43.869
as two different plot lines like you meet him

00:46:43.869 --> 00:46:46.630
later on and then he has his own trauma yeah

00:46:46.630 --> 00:46:48.869
right and you're like okay maybe they work together

00:46:48.869 --> 00:46:51.590
you don't like think about the fact that like

00:46:51.590 --> 00:46:57.130
the the the big uh kind of like subversion betrayal

00:46:57.130 --> 00:46:59.650
aspect of it is supposed to be or that he's a

00:46:59.650 --> 00:47:02.250
part of it or whatever i don't know they should

00:47:02.250 --> 00:47:04.030
have treated it as its own plot line but the

00:47:04.030 --> 00:47:06.719
fact you meet him at the same time basically

00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:09.179
she's at school then like the first five minutes

00:47:09.179 --> 00:47:11.719
you're like okay he's just there and it's not

00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:15.920
a tool it's not even that like oh he's already

00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:19.340
in the class no he is a new student the same

00:47:19.340 --> 00:47:23.840
day yeah she's a new like it it's abundantly

00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:28.820
clear oh this fucker god damn it like yeah yeah

00:47:28.820 --> 00:47:31.139
they should i almost think if they started the

00:47:31.139 --> 00:47:34.329
movie with him and then introduced her And then

00:47:34.329 --> 00:47:36.170
she becomes the main character. You start to

00:47:36.170 --> 00:47:37.610
wonder, oh, is he going to help or whatever?

00:47:37.809 --> 00:47:40.150
Instead of thinking like, oh, wow, coincidence,

00:47:40.250 --> 00:47:42.269
he's here at the same time. Oh, and he really

00:47:42.269 --> 00:47:46.650
wants to be her friend. I knew exactly right

00:47:46.650 --> 00:47:49.429
off the bat what his whole arc was going to be.

00:47:49.510 --> 00:47:52.750
And I'm just like, this guy sucks. God damn it.

00:47:53.849 --> 00:47:57.869
He was just boring. And it's not even Kit Harington's

00:47:57.869 --> 00:48:01.710
fault. I think he was pretty green as an actor.

00:48:02.619 --> 00:48:06.260
A lot of it was just the character and writing

00:48:06.260 --> 00:48:08.920
of it. I don't think he helped it, and I think

00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:15.179
he's better now, but it was definitely the writing

00:48:15.179 --> 00:48:20.900
for me for him. I think he's a better actor now.

00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:22.599
Maybe he could have helped it a little better

00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:26.199
now, but I still don't think you're redeeming

00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:29.340
that character. I think you could have put Leonardo

00:48:29.340 --> 00:48:33.050
DiCaprio in that role now. And you're still not

00:48:33.050 --> 00:48:36.150
saving that thing. You know, that was bad. Yeah.

00:48:36.429 --> 00:48:40.769
Yeah. Yeah. All right. So now we know that kit

00:48:40.769 --> 00:48:43.030
is a double agent. We're going to take a quick

00:48:43.030 --> 00:48:45.570
break and we are going to give out a shout out

00:48:45.570 --> 00:48:48.090
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00:50:03.659 --> 00:50:05.519
All right, so since the darkness came to the

00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:08.639
inn, now it's all foggy outside. It is Silent

00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:11.679
Hill time. We're actually in the town. Welcome

00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:17.739
to Silent Hill. The sign is in the fog. As she

00:50:17.739 --> 00:50:21.039
walks in... There are like ghoulish looking people

00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:22.940
in the windows of the buildings looking at her.

00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:26.659
There's like church bells going off. And in the

00:50:26.659 --> 00:50:28.500
middle of town, there are people burned at the

00:50:28.500 --> 00:50:30.699
stake for being traitors. Like it says traitor

00:50:30.699 --> 00:50:33.239
and there are people burnt and everything like

00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:36.780
that. Like it shows you this is a bad place to

00:50:36.780 --> 00:50:40.639
live. This is the wrong side of the tracks. Not

00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:45.000
a good place to be. And the first person Sharon

00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:47.280
talks to in this town, who does it happen to

00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:55.000
be? Alessa's mother. And this is where we get

00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:57.599
the backstory. I don't know if we talked about

00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:02.280
this. Sharon's adopted. Harry and Rose are not

00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:07.000
her actual parents. And so we need to learn the

00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:11.340
backstory of where does Sharon come from? Well,

00:51:11.460 --> 00:51:16.989
she's Alessa's kind of daughter. Basically, Alessa

00:51:16.989 --> 00:51:19.210
was burned at the stake. She was full of rage.

00:51:19.469 --> 00:51:21.929
She took the one innocent part of her and ripped

00:51:21.929 --> 00:51:24.750
it out and put it in an orphan baby, and that

00:51:24.750 --> 00:51:31.750
was Sharon. So now the only way to stop Alessa

00:51:31.750 --> 00:51:36.090
is to damn herself and reconnect with Alessa.

00:51:36.829 --> 00:51:40.849
Another part where I was just like, okay, just

00:51:40.849 --> 00:51:44.230
spoon -feed me this lore, because it's just like...

00:51:45.289 --> 00:51:48.889
and and like they did try like the flashbacks

00:51:48.889 --> 00:51:51.230
in the beginning of the movie i don't know if

00:51:51.230 --> 00:51:55.510
that kind of way would have helped like you know

00:51:55.510 --> 00:51:57.469
going back to like showing versus not telling

00:51:57.469 --> 00:52:00.590
because like the flashbacks are always like kind

00:52:00.590 --> 00:52:02.670
of like the only thing is just it's another scene

00:52:02.670 --> 00:52:05.429
just covered in that like little haze around

00:52:05.429 --> 00:52:08.070
the borders so that you know or like just the

00:52:08.070 --> 00:52:13.460
cutting of it a little foggy yeah yeah um but

00:52:13.460 --> 00:52:18.780
this part was just like oh my god okay and yeah

00:52:18.780 --> 00:52:22.860
there's like spoon feeding and then there's like

00:52:22.860 --> 00:52:26.539
shoving it down your throat like yeah yeah this

00:52:26.539 --> 00:52:29.500
is this is shoving it down your throat like yeah

00:52:29.500 --> 00:52:33.059
it's we we have an hour and a half of a movie

00:52:33.059 --> 00:52:35.880
we have to just blast you with all the information

00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:38.599
so we can get to the next set piece we could

00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:40.659
spread this to a 20 minute scene we're going

00:52:40.659 --> 00:52:45.800
to give it to you in 30 seconds yeah yeah um

00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:49.400
but as soon as she finishes the sirens begin

00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:51.900
wailing ravens start cawing and the darkness

00:52:51.900 --> 00:52:55.619
starts spreading so sharon heather needs to run

00:52:55.619 --> 00:52:58.639
to get inside and she gets into this decrepit

00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:00.639
building and like begins wandering the halls

00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:04.039
and she gets into a room full of mannequins and

00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:06.059
she like starts hearing footsteps and a woman

00:53:06.059 --> 00:53:10.760
crying and this woman is like she's like help

00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:13.539
me and she starts becoming a mannequin like right

00:53:13.539 --> 00:53:16.500
in front of your eyes i thought that was kind

00:53:16.500 --> 00:53:18.800
of cool this is the scene i'm actually like all

00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:22.000
right this is cool um because then there's a

00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.320
second woman who's like trapped in a spider web

00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:28.659
and there's like a bunch of mannequin pieces

00:53:28.659 --> 00:53:32.099
together at the top of it that form a spider

00:53:32.099 --> 00:53:38.219
and while the cgi is terrible I loved the idea

00:53:38.219 --> 00:53:40.340
of this. I actually thought this was a great

00:53:40.340 --> 00:53:47.960
concept. What did you think of this one? About

00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:52.179
the mannequin. The mannequin spider. The mannequin

00:53:52.179 --> 00:53:56.559
spider. I thought it was cool. I think my problem

00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:59.440
with some of the how the monsters are approached

00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:02.219
in this movie is in the games they're all supposed

00:54:02.219 --> 00:54:06.130
to be a theme. I think the mannequins aren't

00:54:06.130 --> 00:54:08.510
in the original one with the show up later they're

00:54:08.510 --> 00:54:12.829
supposed to kind of like be represent like sexuality

00:54:12.829 --> 00:54:15.710
or something in the movie it doesn't ever relate

00:54:15.710 --> 00:54:19.190
to that i thought visually it looked cool um

00:54:19.190 --> 00:54:22.250
i i think the cgi definitely definitely didn't

00:54:22.250 --> 00:54:25.829
age that well right uh and it felt like it was

00:54:25.829 --> 00:54:28.409
another part of like the let's make it so that

00:54:28.409 --> 00:54:30.949
we can do these 3d scenes where it's like crawling

00:54:30.949 --> 00:54:32.730
at you and like clawing at you and stuff like

00:54:32.730 --> 00:54:36.039
that yeah um But I thought it was pretty cool.

00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:39.360
I thought it was going to be a lot bigger villain.

00:54:39.420 --> 00:54:41.039
Like it was going to stick around for the rest

00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:43.679
of the movie. But again, it's just more of like,

00:54:43.739 --> 00:54:46.619
I think going to the games and like being like,

00:54:46.699 --> 00:54:48.900
what do we like? Oh, this thing shows up in a

00:54:48.900 --> 00:54:50.940
game. Let's throw it in there for 30 seconds.

00:54:51.099 --> 00:54:53.699
You know, I agree with that. It was definitely

00:54:53.699 --> 00:54:56.619
one of the more interesting like creature things

00:54:56.619 --> 00:54:58.900
that they added. Cause up until this point, it's

00:54:58.900 --> 00:55:01.440
just been like the stitched faces people. Right.

00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:05.800
And you're exactly right. Well, like the games

00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:08.739
and stuff like that is especially like the idea

00:55:08.739 --> 00:55:11.619
of sexuality and stuff like that. I know in the

00:55:11.619 --> 00:55:14.480
second one, it's a lot more of that with like,

00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:20.280
but it's, it's populated by the concepts of the

00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:24.199
person in there, like their missteps, stuff like

00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:28.599
that. Okay. Especially with the second one, the

00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:31.280
nurses that we're going to talk about in a little

00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:35.619
bit. that was very much a part of the second

00:55:35.619 --> 00:55:44.219
one. It related to the character. I never played

00:55:44.219 --> 00:55:46.260
the second one. I know the whole storyline of

00:55:46.260 --> 00:55:52.360
it because I watched a Let's Play of it. It very

00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:55.719
much was a lot more related to the idea of the

00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:58.400
character that was traversing through Silent

00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:02.139
Hill. It made a lot more sense. the way this

00:56:02.139 --> 00:56:04.340
movie was structured was a lot of let's take

00:56:04.340 --> 00:56:06.500
this part of this game let's take this part of

00:56:06.500 --> 00:56:08.239
this game and let's just throw it all together

00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:12.039
and they lose their like significance that way

00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:14.219
right because they're all like related to the

00:56:14.219 --> 00:56:16.179
character of the game right right in the first

00:56:16.179 --> 00:56:17.860
one it's like the character who's like looking

00:56:17.860 --> 00:56:20.400
for his wife yeah and then obviously there's

00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:22.639
the big spoiler at the end of that one that was

00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:24.900
the second one so that was the second one yeah

00:56:24.900 --> 00:56:27.360
that's the second one with james okay yeah cool

00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.480
so like the same thing where like i've i've only

00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:33.420
watched my brother's fiance she's into like that

00:56:33.420 --> 00:56:35.699
she's into resident evil so like whenever she's

00:56:35.699 --> 00:56:37.719
like streaming and playing i'll tune in and watch

00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.639
yeah so that's like my exposure to it yeah but

00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:43.280
i think like it kind of follows the same thing

00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:45.800
with like any video games translation to movies

00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:48.559
is a lot of times you can't like rip out the

00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:52.539
things that make that game good right um and

00:56:52.539 --> 00:56:55.599
just apply it to a different like coat of paint

00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:58.670
like because there's like very fine line like

00:56:58.670 --> 00:57:00.690
it's just a very fine line because you want to

00:57:00.690 --> 00:57:03.610
please people with like these moments of like

00:57:03.610 --> 00:57:07.449
oh yeah we love this moment but like if it's

00:57:07.449 --> 00:57:10.050
not significant to your story that you're telling

00:57:10.050 --> 00:57:15.550
you can waste that moment too yeah it's not like

00:57:15.550 --> 00:57:17.349
oh this character is being used because they're

00:57:17.349 --> 00:57:19.809
scary right like in the game it's like they're

00:57:19.809 --> 00:57:21.449
being used because they're scary but they also

00:57:21.449 --> 00:57:24.030
have like some deeper meaning to it and if it's

00:57:24.030 --> 00:57:28.090
like even if like a casual like fan or like person

00:57:28.090 --> 00:57:31.150
exposed to it like me sees that like it's like

00:57:31.150 --> 00:57:32.909
when we talked about like the worst movie like

00:57:32.909 --> 00:57:35.989
mortal combat the things that i know make it

00:57:35.989 --> 00:57:39.050
cool someone else as a casual if even they're

00:57:39.050 --> 00:57:42.130
like hmm like i only played you know maybe 30

00:57:42.130 --> 00:57:44.690
minutes of the game but i don't see this translating

00:57:44.690 --> 00:57:47.590
i think it's the same for like the hardcore so

00:57:47.590 --> 00:57:49.960
i just don't know when they introduce some of

00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:52.360
these characters and they completely strip like

00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:55.519
the the background or the backstory to them who

00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:57.579
they're trying to cater to the hardcore or the

00:57:57.579 --> 00:58:01.099
casual fan of the of the you know whatever franchise

00:58:01.099 --> 00:58:04.559
because it's not hitting the mark for either

00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:08.280
you know right and that's a very good point yeah

00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:10.880
visually they're cool it's just when you take

00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:13.300
out everything else if that's all it is it's

00:58:13.300 --> 00:58:15.719
like cool for a little bit right and that's what

00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:18.059
i'm saying i like this concept of the mannequin

00:58:18.059 --> 00:58:21.840
spider they completely butchered it and the fact

00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:24.460
that it was there for 30 seconds i like the idea

00:58:24.460 --> 00:58:27.239
of it i think it was a great idea they definitely

00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:30.440
butchered it and they had it for 30 seconds and

00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:32.559
they tried to make it a gimmick with the 3d and

00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:34.739
the demogorgon mouth that just like kind of comes

00:58:34.739 --> 00:58:37.440
out and like it was just there to it's kind of

00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:40.380
humanish yeah try to stretch that part was fleshy

00:58:40.380 --> 00:58:44.510
yeah right And so, like, I love the idea of it,

00:58:44.550 --> 00:58:48.809
but it definitely failed. Well, they crawl into

00:58:48.809 --> 00:58:51.090
this vent to try to escape, and the one girl

00:58:51.090 --> 00:58:54.110
doesn't make it. But luckily, Heather Shannon,

00:58:54.289 --> 00:58:58.190
she gets further. She crawls and escapes away.

00:59:01.090 --> 00:59:03.550
Claudia's here. Claudia, the mother of Vincent,

00:59:03.789 --> 00:59:07.170
that runs everything, that runs the cult, the

00:59:07.170 --> 00:59:12.820
Order. Carrie Ann Moss, who's in this. another

00:59:12.820 --> 00:59:16.159
person that's like you're in this what are you

00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:22.179
doing here is that the um that's the the mom

00:59:22.179 --> 00:59:26.880
yes yes okay do you know i don't remember i don't

00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:29.940
know who that is like actor wise but i did recognize

00:59:29.940 --> 00:59:34.159
the voice of the guy who comes after uh i think

00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:37.059
it was his dad or the the grandfather he said

00:59:37.059 --> 00:59:39.820
the grandfather yeah because he says my flesh

00:59:39.820 --> 00:59:43.199
and blood And I didn't know, like, oh, is he

00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:45.280
his dad? Because he seems old and stuff. But

00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:48.519
that guy, sorry to jump ahead, too. That guy

00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:51.340
having an accent threw me off, too. Because he

00:59:51.340 --> 00:59:53.119
has, like, a British accent. Like, he didn't

00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:55.280
even try to sound American. He had, like, I don't

00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:58.079
know if it's British or just an odd accent. But

00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:00.280
I was like, this doesn't, like, sound like Kit

01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:02.900
Harington. Like, that would be related. Yeah,

01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:05.960
right. Carrie Ann Moss, you don't know who she

01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:09.110
is? Uh -uh. Have you heard of a little movie

01:00:09.110 --> 01:00:14.050
called The Matrix? Oh, yeah, I have. Okay. Yeah,

01:00:14.150 --> 01:00:20.349
she's Trinity in The Matrix. I see. See, I think

01:00:20.349 --> 01:00:23.690
I'm not really great at, like, knowing some of

01:00:23.690 --> 01:00:25.829
these actors' names. Like, some of them I've

01:00:25.829 --> 01:00:29.110
seen so much, which is why it's, like, weird

01:00:29.110 --> 01:00:30.909
that Sean Bean sticks, but I think because he

01:00:30.909 --> 01:00:33.610
has his gimmick. See, this is the funniest thing,

01:00:33.690 --> 01:00:35.050
though, because, like, you're talking about the

01:00:35.050 --> 01:00:39.909
grandfather, Malcolm McDowell. He's from the

01:00:39.909 --> 01:00:43.489
UK. Like they, they really, all of these actors

01:00:43.489 --> 01:00:45.789
and actresses are from the UK or Australia. That's

01:00:45.789 --> 01:00:47.610
what I'm saying. They could have just done it

01:00:47.610 --> 01:00:50.090
with their regular accents. Just do it. Yeah.

01:00:50.909 --> 01:00:53.849
The only one was, I think, I can't remember if

01:00:53.849 --> 01:00:56.550
Carrie Ann Moss is from, I think she's the only

01:00:56.550 --> 01:00:59.989
American probably actually. And I couldn't be

01:00:59.989 --> 01:01:03.170
wrong about that. Yeah. She's from Canada. So

01:01:03.170 --> 01:01:05.769
like, yeah, she would have been the only one,

01:01:05.849 --> 01:01:08.880
but. i think she can handle it she moved to europe

01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:13.000
so she would have been fine she probably could

01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:18.900
have pulled it off but yeah yeah sorry you know

01:01:18.900 --> 01:01:21.219
what's weird too is mcdowell that guy couldn't

01:01:21.219 --> 01:01:23.460
like i was like he sounds familiar i couldn't

01:01:23.460 --> 01:01:25.900
think of where i had to look it up after and

01:01:25.900 --> 01:01:28.659
he's like done a voice acting for another video

01:01:28.659 --> 01:01:32.440
game which is also a popular tv show now fallout

01:01:33.769 --> 01:01:35.949
yeah i think he's like the voice of the enclave

01:01:35.949 --> 01:01:39.309
which is like a radio champ but that's why i

01:01:39.309 --> 01:01:41.750
knew instantly i was like i see he's got a he

01:01:41.750 --> 01:01:43.730
didn't change his british accent he's just doing

01:01:43.730 --> 01:01:45.730
the same voice and i was like he's related to

01:01:45.730 --> 01:01:48.269
kit harrington but kit harrington has to do an

01:01:48.269 --> 01:01:50.550
american accent like that's my thing they really

01:01:50.550 --> 01:01:52.650
should have just left them to do their accents

01:01:52.650 --> 01:01:54.710
like all of them could have done their accents

01:01:54.710 --> 01:01:56.250
except for carrie ann moss would have probably

01:01:56.250 --> 01:01:59.090
had to put one on but like she's lived in london

01:01:59.090 --> 01:02:01.670
for a while i think she could do it yeah i think

01:02:01.670 --> 01:02:04.989
she'd be all right So whatever. I don't know.

01:02:05.050 --> 01:02:07.750
That doesn't make sense. But yeah. So Claudia,

01:02:07.869 --> 01:02:12.590
the big bad of this movie, she runs the order.

01:02:14.590 --> 01:02:19.769
She wants to punish Vincent because he kind of

01:02:19.769 --> 01:02:22.989
was a traitor on this whole thing because he

01:02:22.989 --> 01:02:28.289
wanted to spare Sharon Heather. But at the same

01:02:28.289 --> 01:02:31.309
time, he got her to Silent Hill of her own free

01:02:31.309 --> 01:02:35.300
will. His punishment is he gets sent to the asylum.

01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:39.960
And speaking of the asylum, Sharon Heather climbs

01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:42.739
out of the vent. She just happens to be at the

01:02:42.739 --> 01:02:45.579
asylum, which is great because that's where she

01:02:45.579 --> 01:02:48.559
needs to go to get to Leonard, Malcolm McDowell,

01:02:48.599 --> 01:02:57.340
to get to the second part of the seal. She figures

01:02:57.340 --> 01:03:00.300
out where he is and everything like that. And

01:03:00.300 --> 01:03:05.260
Leonard is like, The cell he is by himself, it's

01:03:05.260 --> 01:03:07.900
like this huge circular cell. He's by himself.

01:03:07.940 --> 01:03:12.579
He's like chained down in the middle of the cell.

01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:17.960
He's blind. He's like obviously has some stitching

01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:21.360
around his head and stuff. And like he's in bad

01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:30.159
shape. He's kind of creepy. His performance is

01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:35.030
okay. yeah i mean he was he hammed it up yeah

01:03:35.030 --> 01:03:38.349
he hammed it up i think he i think he knew like

01:03:38.349 --> 01:03:39.889
i said the only thing that kind of threw me off

01:03:39.889 --> 01:03:42.550
was that accent yeah you find out that he's related

01:03:42.550 --> 01:03:46.710
to vincent yeah right unless i guess unless he's

01:03:46.710 --> 01:03:49.349
not supposed to be relating he meant like metaphorically

01:03:49.349 --> 01:03:51.110
or something i don't know but he was related

01:03:51.110 --> 01:03:52.909
right he said he's his grandfather grandfather

01:03:52.909 --> 01:03:54.690
yeah he's he's supposed to be his grandfather

01:03:54.690 --> 01:03:56.769
he just didn't get i don't know it's just crazy

01:03:56.769 --> 01:03:58.610
they didn't clue him into like hey man you're

01:03:58.610 --> 01:04:01.489
doing a british accent right everybody in this

01:04:01.489 --> 01:04:04.469
movie i think the movie takes place in where

01:04:04.469 --> 01:04:07.570
is it vermont or something or west virginia it's

01:04:07.570 --> 01:04:09.550
like it feels like it's supposed to be like somewhere

01:04:09.550 --> 01:04:13.030
on this area right i actually don't know as if

01:04:13.030 --> 01:04:16.090
people actually don't know i don't know i don't

01:04:16.090 --> 01:04:17.969
know if they ever like clarified where i mean

01:04:17.969 --> 01:04:20.659
it's probably a fictional right I mean, because

01:04:20.659 --> 01:04:23.400
Silent Hill is made by Japanese people, so I

01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:25.400
don't know. Yeah, I don't know if they necessarily

01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:28.679
have a spot where Silent Hill is. I always thought

01:04:28.679 --> 01:04:31.639
it was supposed to be around Seattle area, where

01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:34.900
it's constantly raining and stuff. But I really

01:04:34.900 --> 01:04:37.360
don't know, actually. That could be a good point,

01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:39.440
too. Yeah, I don't know. I really don't know.

01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:47.239
It could be anywhere. Yeah, I don't know. I don't

01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:52.940
know. But yeah, so she's looking for the second

01:04:52.940 --> 01:04:56.760
piece. He doesn't know what he's looking at because

01:04:56.760 --> 01:05:01.559
he's blind. So she puts it in his hands so he

01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:06.780
can see. And he just jabs it inside his gut so

01:05:06.780 --> 01:05:09.300
that it can be where the other one is. So now

01:05:09.300 --> 01:05:14.539
he has the full seal inside him. And he just

01:05:14.539 --> 01:05:18.570
becomes like... This mummy looking thing, like

01:05:18.570 --> 01:05:20.590
he just starts getting wrapped up in like this

01:05:20.590 --> 01:05:24.869
white gunk. I don't know. It's weird. It's a

01:05:24.869 --> 01:05:28.550
weird look. She pulls out a gun and starts shooting

01:05:28.550 --> 01:05:30.829
at him and nails every shot, by the way. Remember

01:05:30.829 --> 01:05:36.909
how we were saying she's a good shot. Yeah. He

01:05:36.909 --> 01:05:40.489
like is able to break through the chain, grabs

01:05:40.489 --> 01:05:44.949
her, breaks through the door. She no longer has

01:05:44.949 --> 01:05:47.789
any bullets. But as she's being carried off,

01:05:47.909 --> 01:05:52.550
he just has this big glowing weak spot where

01:05:52.550 --> 01:05:56.130
the seal is. Yeah. She's just able to reach in,

01:05:56.190 --> 01:06:01.210
grab it, and pull it out. And it explodes. And

01:06:01.210 --> 01:06:05.789
he just disintegrates into nothing. Yeah. A very

01:06:05.789 --> 01:06:09.710
video game -esque to be like, oh, just pull this

01:06:09.710 --> 01:06:11.710
thing out. And then now it's complete, right?

01:06:13.820 --> 01:06:15.840
It's like a key thing. It's like, oh, now the

01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:18.099
other side's on it or something. She now has

01:06:18.099 --> 01:06:25.960
the seal of Metatron. Yeah. Yeah, the seal of

01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:32.059
Metatron. Yeah, which, I mean, I know that's

01:06:32.059 --> 01:06:34.159
probably what it's called in the games, but it's

01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:37.219
just such a funny name. It's such a dumb name.

01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:40.119
Because it's one letter off of Megatron. Megatron,

01:06:40.260 --> 01:06:45.769
yep. It's such a dumb name. It's definitely like

01:06:45.769 --> 01:06:54.349
video game named. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So she's

01:06:54.349 --> 01:06:56.730
like trying to get out of the asylum now with

01:06:56.730 --> 01:07:00.889
the seal and she sees them wheel Vincent in and

01:07:00.889 --> 01:07:03.789
they wheel Vincent into where all the nurse creatures

01:07:03.789 --> 01:07:08.250
are. The nurse creatures are definitely a part

01:07:08.250 --> 01:07:12.409
of the second game. Basically, if you move too

01:07:12.409 --> 01:07:15.650
violently, they, can pick up on your location

01:07:15.650 --> 01:07:18.429
and they just start attacking you with like syringes

01:07:18.429 --> 01:07:22.630
and knives and stuff um so vincent is like staying

01:07:22.630 --> 01:07:27.349
completely still and sharon sneaks over next

01:07:27.349 --> 01:07:32.349
to him and like it's just asking where to find

01:07:32.349 --> 01:07:35.989
her dad um he's just like you need to go to the

01:07:35.989 --> 01:07:38.409
sanctuary under the amusement park which was

01:07:38.409 --> 01:07:42.329
in her dreams and he is like but you need my

01:07:42.329 --> 01:07:47.170
help you need my help So she tries to help him

01:07:47.170 --> 01:07:50.630
get out of there. There's a whole scene where

01:07:50.630 --> 01:07:52.789
they like kick over the gurney and they like

01:07:52.789 --> 01:07:56.409
blocking from the nurses and they're like jabbing.

01:07:56.550 --> 01:08:06.110
It's very 3D -esque. 3D for you. Yeah. But that

01:08:06.110 --> 01:08:08.710
is also part of the game was, did you hear the

01:08:08.710 --> 01:08:14.139
groaning noises? No, I didn't. they were literally

01:08:14.139 --> 01:08:16.939
like sex moaning oh yeah yeah you're right oh

01:08:16.939 --> 01:08:19.359
you're right you're right that's okay i i was

01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:21.619
like groaning you're right i you know what's

01:08:21.619 --> 01:08:24.680
funny is when that part came on i was like i

01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:27.859
wonder like if anybody just walking by would

01:08:27.859 --> 01:08:30.079
even know when i'm watching because i was like

01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:33.119
for a second i'm like am i starting to like hallucinate

01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:35.300
and imagine that these characters were just straight

01:08:35.300 --> 01:08:39.520
like moaning or were they like i don't know i

01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:41.600
don't know like i just i felt like i was entering

01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:46.720
psychosis but that makes sense um again it was

01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:48.819
like the whole part where like you can't they

01:08:48.819 --> 01:08:51.520
can't hear it's like i feel like that part is

01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:54.220
cool in the game because it serves like a mechanic

01:08:54.220 --> 01:08:57.220
of like being stealthy but in a movie where like

01:08:57.220 --> 01:09:00.859
these things are already like how like how is

01:09:00.859 --> 01:09:03.600
she not dead yet like it's just like oh so now

01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:06.260
these things they can't see her they can only

01:09:06.260 --> 01:09:09.800
track the the sound and and all that and it's

01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:12.220
i don't know it's like why is everything else

01:09:12.220 --> 01:09:16.199
everything's got a weakness so far right you

01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:17.920
know what i mean considering that these are like

01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:20.819
demons or whatever but yeah the moaning thing

01:09:20.819 --> 01:09:24.039
was uh it was like i heard it i kind of caught

01:09:24.039 --> 01:09:27.619
on to it when like they're the scene it was exiting

01:09:27.619 --> 01:09:30.529
the scene i think yeah i don't i don't oh it

01:09:30.529 --> 01:09:33.130
was it was like intense at the end of the scene

01:09:33.130 --> 01:09:35.630
like it was yeah it was a little bit in the beginning

01:09:35.630 --> 01:09:38.729
and then you didn't notice it yet yeah it got

01:09:38.729 --> 01:09:41.510
ramped to 11 by the end of it like it was it

01:09:41.510 --> 01:09:45.390
was way too much and like this was the part where

01:09:45.390 --> 01:09:47.850
i'm like i'm kind of glad i stopped watching

01:09:47.850 --> 01:09:51.229
last night because then at like midnight claire

01:09:51.229 --> 01:09:53.409
would have been up upstairs asleep and she all

01:09:53.409 --> 01:09:55.050
of a sudden would have just started hearing that

01:09:55.050 --> 01:09:57.500
and i would have been like I swear it's part

01:09:57.500 --> 01:10:02.619
of the movie. I swear. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

01:10:03.020 --> 01:10:06.359
About that. Yeah. I watched it today at night.

01:10:06.420 --> 01:10:09.500
I would have felt like, Oh, not that like my

01:10:09.500 --> 01:10:11.859
neighbors probably would hear me, but just, you

01:10:11.859 --> 01:10:14.340
know, just in case I think you instantly think,

01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:16.000
what would somebody think if they heard me right

01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:18.300
now? Cause it just, it just got really loud at

01:10:18.300 --> 01:10:20.840
the end. Yeah. Oh yeah. It was ramped up. Definitely.

01:10:20.920 --> 01:10:23.000
And again, it's one of those things like in the

01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:26.359
game completely makes sense here. Yeah. It was

01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:28.180
just out of nowhere and not a context. And it

01:10:28.180 --> 01:10:30.619
was like, yeah, if you would have taken time

01:10:30.619 --> 01:10:32.140
and addressed it, maybe you could have made it

01:10:32.140 --> 01:10:35.220
make sense. It made no sense here. Just didn't.

01:10:36.199 --> 01:10:41.220
So, yeah. So they go to the amusement park now.

01:10:41.539 --> 01:10:44.979
Just get over to the amusement park. And as soon

01:10:44.979 --> 01:10:47.079
as they get there, the lights turn on. It's obvious

01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:50.840
they know that they are there. And these soldiers

01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:54.180
start following them. They wear, like, gas masks.

01:10:54.460 --> 01:10:59.640
They're called the Brethren. And they do that

01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:01.159
because they don't want to breathe the air because

01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:03.619
they believe it would corrupt them. Yet Sharon

01:11:03.619 --> 01:11:08.460
and Vincent can just breathe it fine. They get

01:11:08.460 --> 01:11:11.420
to where her dream started at the beginning of

01:11:11.420 --> 01:11:15.000
the movie. And Vincent's like, okay, I'm going

01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:17.920
to sacrifice myself for you so that you can get

01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:20.859
there and you can save your father. And kisses

01:11:20.859 --> 01:11:25.020
her and runs off. Because of course he does.

01:11:25.899 --> 01:11:28.359
yeah the kiss was like you knew it was coming

01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:30.899
but you i don't think they like had worked up

01:11:30.899 --> 01:11:35.939
for that to be logical did not earn it did not

01:11:35.939 --> 01:11:41.680
no so they start chasing after him and she's

01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:44.220
like realizing this is where my dream was so

01:11:44.220 --> 01:11:47.619
now she goes to the carousel the pyramid head

01:11:47.619 --> 01:11:50.539
starts cranking the wheel and the carousel starts

01:11:50.539 --> 01:11:53.520
going around and starts to lower to the sanctuary

01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:57.859
And this is where we see Alessa. But Alessa is

01:11:57.859 --> 01:12:02.720
teen Alessa. And we're back to where the dream

01:12:02.720 --> 01:12:09.739
was. At this point, I still feel like this hasn't,

01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:13.399
like, like, whatever they thought the payoff

01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:16.060
was for, like, working their way back into, like,

01:12:16.060 --> 01:12:18.739
this dream. It's like, just felt like, oh, well,

01:12:18.779 --> 01:12:20.420
this is where you knew the movie was going to

01:12:20.420 --> 01:12:23.199
go. Right. Like, that this was going to be mirrored

01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:26.729
later on. Yep. All right. So we're on the carousel.

01:12:26.770 --> 01:12:29.750
It's going down into the sanctuary. We see teen

01:12:29.750 --> 01:12:34.409
Alessa. So Alessa is like starting to destroy

01:12:34.409 --> 01:12:39.569
Sharon, but Sharon, like she's, she's like, like

01:12:39.569 --> 01:12:41.390
Alessa is just kind of like, I'm going to destroy

01:12:41.390 --> 01:12:43.710
you. You shouldn't have come back. I'm going

01:12:43.710 --> 01:12:48.529
to destroy you. But Sharon's like, no, I'm going

01:12:48.529 --> 01:12:53.010
to destroy you. And like hugs her. and like brings

01:12:53.010 --> 01:12:58.310
her into her body so like sharon heather is the

01:12:58.310 --> 01:13:03.829
one who brings alessa into her so like alessa

01:13:03.829 --> 01:13:06.989
just like or sharon just kind of like adopts

01:13:06.989 --> 01:13:13.510
all that rage into her so that's kind of like

01:13:13.510 --> 01:13:17.670
the idea i got from it so like alessa is part

01:13:17.670 --> 01:13:26.840
of her now So she's the child that was born.

01:13:30.220 --> 01:13:36.060
Even though she was, she's an orphan child. You

01:13:36.060 --> 01:13:42.960
know what I'm kind of saying? No. Okay. All right.

01:13:42.979 --> 01:13:46.520
That's fair. So there are two. I don't know if

01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:49.689
it. Yeah. Break it down for me because I don't

01:13:49.689 --> 01:13:52.010
think it's your explanation. I just think it's

01:13:52.010 --> 01:13:56.710
the leaps they expect you to take to get there.

01:13:56.930 --> 01:13:59.590
Yeah, okay. That's fair. So there's two different

01:13:59.590 --> 01:14:02.350
kids that were born. There was Alessa and then

01:14:02.350 --> 01:14:04.729
there was Sharon. And they are two different

01:14:04.729 --> 01:14:10.390
kids. Okay. Sharon was an orphan. Alessa was

01:14:10.390 --> 01:14:16.729
born to this woman in Silent Hill. alessa was

01:14:16.729 --> 01:14:21.090
burned at the stake but she didn't die she was

01:14:21.090 --> 01:14:24.050
filled with rage but she still had this one innocent

01:14:24.050 --> 01:14:31.189
part of her so she put it into sharon okay sharon

01:14:31.189 --> 01:14:35.670
now was like okay i feel your pain i'm gonna

01:14:35.670 --> 01:14:40.390
absorb your rage into me so now alessa is like

01:14:40.390 --> 01:14:47.239
no longer but she exists in sharon so they're

01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:50.220
both one now they're both one now so sharon is

01:14:50.220 --> 01:14:59.739
the vessel that is awaiting the god it's still

01:14:59.739 --> 01:15:02.260
confusing don't get me wrong like i'm still like

01:15:02.260 --> 01:15:05.060
that was the weirdest shit i just had to explain

01:15:05.060 --> 01:15:10.260
well i think it's like and i Again, maybe within

01:15:10.260 --> 01:15:14.000
the games, there's some context as to why this

01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:18.819
matters, but why she picked Sharon to be the

01:15:18.819 --> 01:15:22.439
vessel. I think it was just there was a kid on

01:15:22.439 --> 01:15:27.359
a Tuesday. Yeah, because if they were twins or

01:15:27.359 --> 01:15:30.699
related or something, the whole time I think,

01:15:30.779 --> 01:15:34.800
well, was she her reincarnation then? Was she

01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:39.640
related to her? but i again i think this is like

01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:42.720
this was like a plot that they were like oh that

01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:46.899
sounds kind of like the the games yeah i think

01:15:46.899 --> 01:15:53.140
i really do i think it was just uh yeah yeah

01:15:53.140 --> 01:15:57.840
they definitely didn't explain it in this movie

01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:01.000
that that is for damn sure um if there was a

01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:03.340
reasoning they did not explain it in this movie

01:16:03.340 --> 01:16:07.430
yeah and then like why the god wants to like

01:16:07.430 --> 01:16:10.390
destroy her it's just like a whole other thing

01:16:10.390 --> 01:16:13.010
that you have to like if these things were meant

01:16:13.010 --> 01:16:16.409
to be tied together they did a really bad job

01:16:16.409 --> 01:16:19.270
of like tying that well i don't think that god

01:16:19.270 --> 01:16:21.670
wants to destroy her i think the god is just

01:16:21.670 --> 01:16:24.289
a vessel that wants to destroy the world like

01:16:24.289 --> 01:16:28.729
spread the darkness throughout i see and so this

01:16:28.729 --> 01:16:34.170
aless is just kind of like the opposing i guess

01:16:34.170 --> 01:16:40.050
side of it Well, I think Alessa, so there was

01:16:40.050 --> 01:16:42.090
that one scene where Vincent was, like, where

01:16:42.090 --> 01:16:44.770
Sharon says, how could you grow up like this?

01:16:44.909 --> 01:16:46.529
And Vincent's just like, this is the only thing

01:16:46.529 --> 01:16:50.109
I've ever known. And I think that's what Alessa

01:16:50.109 --> 01:16:52.369
is. Like, this is all I've ever known kind of

01:16:52.369 --> 01:16:55.729
thing. Not necessarily, like, I want to do this

01:16:55.729 --> 01:16:59.170
because I'm evil. It was just like, I just, this

01:16:59.170 --> 01:17:04.529
is all I've ever known. Yeah. who knows i mean

01:17:04.529 --> 01:17:07.310
again we're we're putting way more thought into

01:17:07.310 --> 01:17:09.829
this movie than the writers of this movie put

01:17:09.829 --> 01:17:16.970
into this movie yeah you know yeah i feel like

01:17:16.970 --> 01:17:20.649
i'm gonna have to even after this look up like

01:17:20.649 --> 01:17:23.829
synopsis of like the games to just like see if

01:17:23.829 --> 01:17:26.189
the games released up until this point to see

01:17:26.189 --> 01:17:27.770
what they were pulling from because it seems

01:17:27.770 --> 01:17:29.449
like they pulled from a lot of different things

01:17:29.449 --> 01:17:32.460
and i think that might confuse you more I really

01:17:32.460 --> 01:17:35.279
do. I think they just they pieced it together

01:17:35.279 --> 01:17:39.239
and made their own movie based on what they wanted.

01:17:40.260 --> 01:17:44.300
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're probably right. It probably

01:17:44.300 --> 01:17:46.819
wasn't this thought out thing of like, well,

01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:48.779
at least now movies when they try to translate

01:17:48.779 --> 01:17:52.060
that, I think they try to at least take a look

01:17:52.060 --> 01:17:54.779
at like more of the source material. Right. You

01:17:54.779 --> 01:17:57.079
know what I mean? Like, I think maybe they found.

01:17:58.100 --> 01:18:00.300
I don't know if they worked with one of the artists

01:18:00.300 --> 01:18:02.000
who designed the creatures and stuff like that.

01:18:02.039 --> 01:18:04.460
I would imagine maybe they do that so that people

01:18:04.460 --> 01:18:08.300
are like, oh, this movie has credibility. And

01:18:08.300 --> 01:18:10.300
then when they see that, it doesn't really make

01:18:10.300 --> 01:18:12.260
sense. It doesn't really matter at that point

01:18:12.260 --> 01:18:15.920
if it follows much. Well, I think now what they're

01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:18.800
doing a little more is they're going, hey, instead

01:18:18.800 --> 01:18:21.220
of just trying to take the best bits of video

01:18:21.220 --> 01:18:24.949
games from the whole series, let's try to tell

01:18:24.949 --> 01:18:27.449
one story. And then if it works, then we can

01:18:27.449 --> 01:18:29.550
tell another story and another story and just

01:18:29.550 --> 01:18:32.250
kind of keep a little more like that. Whereas

01:18:32.250 --> 01:18:35.229
this one specifically, they definitely just said

01:18:35.229 --> 01:18:37.850
bits of all the series. Let's just put them in

01:18:37.850 --> 01:18:42.689
and who cares if it makes sense. I don't know.

01:18:44.489 --> 01:18:49.130
It works when you just like tell one story and

01:18:49.130 --> 01:18:53.739
see if people like it or not. That's why. some

01:18:53.739 --> 01:18:56.680
of these things are working. That's why, I mean,

01:18:56.680 --> 01:18:58.779
my, my go -to example right now is super Mario

01:18:58.779 --> 01:19:01.779
bros. They just tried to tell one story, you

01:19:01.779 --> 01:19:05.520
know? Yeah. And now they're going galaxy. I mean,

01:19:05.539 --> 01:19:07.199
yeah, they brought in like donkey Kong and stuff

01:19:07.199 --> 01:19:10.659
like that. I will say that, but they kept it

01:19:10.659 --> 01:19:14.600
to one narrative. They didn't just all of a sudden

01:19:14.600 --> 01:19:19.079
say, cool. We like Bowser, but we're also going

01:19:19.079 --> 01:19:25.170
to include Wario Waluigi. you know like that

01:19:25.170 --> 01:19:26.850
kind of you have to give people time to like

01:19:26.850 --> 01:19:30.289
get their feet into that universe too which is

01:19:30.289 --> 01:19:35.109
like it you have to i have to suspend my disbelief

01:19:35.109 --> 01:19:37.909
a lot with this movie or these movies and it's

01:19:37.909 --> 01:19:40.649
like if you're having me just like okay sure

01:19:40.649 --> 01:19:43.689
every every time something happens like all right

01:19:43.689 --> 01:19:47.510
yeah okay i got it it's like yep and i think

01:19:47.510 --> 01:19:49.350
the crazy thing is that i don't think this movie

01:19:49.350 --> 01:19:52.460
was they were able to save it because it's like

01:19:52.460 --> 01:19:54.300
just like writing it feels like there wasn't

01:19:54.300 --> 01:19:56.199
like a lot of revision that went into the writing

01:19:56.199 --> 01:20:00.260
uh but i think giving it more than an hour and

01:20:00.260 --> 01:20:03.739
a half runtime would have helped it i think so

01:20:03.739 --> 01:20:07.340
too i think i think because they just the worst

01:20:07.340 --> 01:20:09.340
parts are when you're trying to understand all

01:20:09.340 --> 01:20:12.560
this like lore yeah and you're just like forced

01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:14.340
to accept it because like you said there's spoon

01:20:14.340 --> 01:20:16.840
feeding and then there's also like the just jamming

01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:18.920
it down your throat being like all right next

01:20:18.920 --> 01:20:21.880
scene yeah And it's tough with something like

01:20:21.880 --> 01:20:23.619
Silent Hill, too, because you have to explain

01:20:23.619 --> 01:20:26.760
what Silent Hill is while also trying to create

01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:30.659
a narrative around Silent Hill. You know, so

01:20:30.659 --> 01:20:34.680
there's a lot going on. Yeah. Well, so Alessa

01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:37.880
has been absorbed. So now it's only Sharon left.

01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:42.439
She's gotten into the sanctuary and Claudia is

01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:45.239
very happy to see that it's Sharon. She has defeated

01:20:45.239 --> 01:20:52.270
Alessa. She's rejoined the seal. And so. Sharon

01:20:52.270 --> 01:20:55.149
Heather Alessa. Whatever we want to call her.

01:20:56.130 --> 01:20:58.329
They're all one now. They're all one now. Now

01:20:58.329 --> 01:21:02.170
she's got a third name. She wants to see her

01:21:02.170 --> 01:21:04.210
father freed. She's like, I'll help you, but

01:21:04.210 --> 01:21:06.229
I want to see my father freed. And Claudia's

01:21:06.229 --> 01:21:09.329
like, nah. I'm going to feed his blood to you.

01:21:11.630 --> 01:21:15.609
There's some cannibalism, I guess. Yeah. Just

01:21:15.609 --> 01:21:19.220
more shock. Well, this is to make her the vessel.

01:21:19.420 --> 01:21:24.659
This is to, I don't know, get her strength up,

01:21:24.739 --> 01:21:31.340
maybe? Yeah. But Claudia needs the seal to summon

01:21:31.340 --> 01:21:35.399
the god. She says banish the darkness, but I

01:21:35.399 --> 01:21:38.180
still don't believe that. It's not to banish

01:21:38.180 --> 01:21:41.000
the darkness. It's to make everything dark, is

01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:44.760
what I thought it was. I don't know. But when

01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:48.020
she hands the seal to Claudia, Claudia becomes

01:21:48.020 --> 01:21:54.000
the knife demon. And the knife demon goes to

01:21:54.000 --> 01:22:00.800
attack Sharon. But remember, what we said before

01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:05.600
is that Pyramid Head is the protector and executioner

01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:11.579
of the god. Yeah. Protector was an important

01:22:11.579 --> 01:22:15.500
part of it. So Pyramid Head comes to defend her.

01:22:15.899 --> 01:22:21.939
The big old sword swings up and defends knife

01:22:21.939 --> 01:22:26.840
from knife demon. Yep. We get big monster fight,

01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:29.279
not super big monster, but we get monster fight.

01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:32.899
I guess we get monster fight. Yay. Monster fight.

01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:37.119
That's the only payoff. I feel like for me, the

01:22:37.119 --> 01:22:40.680
only part where I was like, all right, I guess

01:22:40.680 --> 01:22:43.600
it pays off that I've been creeped out and that,

01:22:43.680 --> 01:22:46.729
you know, I, recognize like this character from

01:22:46.729 --> 01:22:51.529
the game right uh sharon and vincent are able

01:22:51.529 --> 01:22:56.069
to free harry but like it's slow pyramid head

01:22:56.069 --> 01:22:58.569
versus fast knife demon like how is this gonna

01:22:58.569 --> 01:23:03.750
go yeah uh knife demon gets some licks in just

01:23:03.750 --> 01:23:08.630
but pyramid head is able to like knock knife

01:23:08.630 --> 01:23:13.250
demon down get one fell swoop cuts off knife

01:23:13.250 --> 01:23:20.819
demon's head There we go. Winner, winner. Fades

01:23:20.819 --> 01:23:23.859
to a white screen and our trio is walking away.

01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:29.140
The ashes stopped in Silent Hill. Happy ending,

01:23:29.239 --> 01:23:37.840
right? Right? Sorry, I had to get water for my

01:23:37.840 --> 01:23:41.479
dog. Yeah, I don't know if it was a happy ending.

01:23:42.840 --> 01:23:44.880
Like it just happened so quickly after this,

01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:49.079
right? The, I think we have to address the fact

01:23:49.079 --> 01:23:51.979
that Sean being, I guess your prediction on Sean

01:23:51.979 --> 01:23:55.399
being and whether, whether I feel like a solid

01:23:55.399 --> 01:23:57.520
prediction could be made, you know what I mean?

01:23:57.539 --> 01:24:01.140
Even by the end of it, because I thought that

01:24:01.140 --> 01:24:03.260
he's like, I don't know if you want to go on

01:24:03.260 --> 01:24:06.899
before I say, no, go ahead. He says, I'm going

01:24:06.899 --> 01:24:10.479
to stay in silent Hill, which I'm like, sure.

01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:13.689
This feels like maybe, I don't know if it was

01:24:13.689 --> 01:24:15.890
to get a sequel or something down the road, but

01:24:15.890 --> 01:24:20.289
I'm like, if you think he like survives, does

01:24:20.289 --> 01:24:22.189
this mean he's just going to die? Cause can he

01:24:22.189 --> 01:24:25.689
really, you know, make it out? He's a normal

01:24:25.689 --> 01:24:29.189
human being. Like he's not a vessel for a God.

01:24:29.350 --> 01:24:33.329
He's just a normal guy. Like I thought this movie

01:24:33.329 --> 01:24:35.390
would address at some point, like he was a secret

01:24:35.390 --> 01:24:37.390
agent or something like that. Government official.

01:24:37.449 --> 01:24:39.289
Like he has all these tricks and everything like

01:24:39.289 --> 01:24:43.300
that. No, he's a normal guy. Why does he continue

01:24:43.300 --> 01:24:46.520
to be involved in this? Right. So he wants to

01:24:46.520 --> 01:24:48.819
stay to find Rose, his wife, who's somewhere

01:24:48.819 --> 01:24:52.420
in Silent Hill. So he just walks back into the

01:24:52.420 --> 01:24:55.560
fog of Silent Hill and the fog disappears with

01:24:55.560 --> 01:25:00.020
him. And then Vincent and Sharon walk the other

01:25:00.020 --> 01:25:04.699
way. Like, what? Why? They just spent all movie

01:25:04.699 --> 01:25:07.960
trying to save you. And you're like, I want to

01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:10.739
find my wife. Haven't seen her in years. You're

01:25:10.739 --> 01:25:14.380
safe now. It's fine. So is that supposed to be

01:25:14.380 --> 01:25:18.619
like, I mean, I know the plot is different. I

01:25:18.619 --> 01:25:22.060
mean, maybe his wife, his wife is like, yeah,

01:25:22.180 --> 01:25:25.119
possibly. Yeah, possibly. They kind of try to

01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:26.920
tie it to the second one. Cause like you play

01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:28.899
a character looking for his wife, or at least

01:25:28.899 --> 01:25:31.020
make you think like, Oh, maybe that's similar

01:25:31.020 --> 01:25:32.539
to what they're going to do. That would make

01:25:32.539 --> 01:25:37.699
sense. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, probably. But it's

01:25:37.699 --> 01:25:39.380
just like, yeah, you said they spent the whole

01:25:39.380 --> 01:25:41.000
time trying to rescue him for him to be like,

01:25:41.060 --> 01:25:43.039
you know, I've been telling you not to go to

01:25:43.039 --> 01:25:44.760
Silent Hill, but I think I'm going to hang out

01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:47.699
here. Like she clearly cares about her. She clearly

01:25:47.699 --> 01:25:51.260
cares about him, but he's going to like legitimately,

01:25:51.260 --> 01:25:54.260
though, like it. Dad, I don't want you to go.

01:25:55.340 --> 01:25:58.319
Please, please come back with me. Nah. Yeah.

01:25:58.779 --> 01:26:01.460
Pussy. I'm chilling. Yeah, I'm chilling at Silent

01:26:01.460 --> 01:26:04.880
Hill. Yeah, like I haven't had sex in a while.

01:26:06.729 --> 01:26:11.029
yeah yeah i it was they definitely didn't know

01:26:11.029 --> 01:26:13.010
how to tie it all together at the end that was

01:26:13.010 --> 01:26:17.310
like just not not sticking the landing at all

01:26:17.310 --> 01:26:23.829
right because even with yeah i don't know and

01:26:23.829 --> 01:26:26.029
they definitely sequel baited with that and then

01:26:26.029 --> 01:26:30.090
the ending too so like the ending uh vincent

01:26:30.090 --> 01:26:36.359
sharon heather alissa alessa um yeah They hitchhike

01:26:36.359 --> 01:26:39.180
and get on a truck, and as they get in the truck,

01:26:39.359 --> 01:26:41.279
they pass a sign that says, you're now leaving

01:26:41.279 --> 01:26:45.000
Silent Hill, and the fog disappears. But then

01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:48.439
this police cruiser with this police bus go back

01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:51.699
this way, and the camera fades and turns around

01:26:51.699 --> 01:26:55.039
and says, you're entering Silent Hill, and it

01:26:55.039 --> 01:26:58.279
goes straight into fog. I'm like, okay, cool

01:26:58.279 --> 01:27:01.779
idea, but you're definitely sequel baiting. It's

01:27:01.779 --> 01:27:05.130
1 ,000 % trying to get. okay we'll see you next

01:27:05.130 --> 01:27:08.710
time which is like why i didn't even bother to

01:27:08.710 --> 01:27:11.949
look up like if there was a sequel to this i'm

01:27:11.949 --> 01:27:14.409
sure there probably was after i'm sure it was

01:27:14.409 --> 01:27:18.149
yeah i again i don't think there was another

01:27:18.149 --> 01:27:22.170
sean bean one yeah i hate when movies end just

01:27:22.170 --> 01:27:25.430
right after like they're done basically telling

01:27:25.430 --> 01:27:28.750
you like the story right like i do like a little

01:27:28.750 --> 01:27:30.670
bit of follow -up and this just like you said

01:27:30.670 --> 01:27:33.439
just you end with sean bean staying there then

01:27:33.439 --> 01:27:35.939
yeah they hitchhike on that that truck right

01:27:35.939 --> 01:27:39.119
um and then it's just like okay we show the sign

01:27:39.119 --> 01:27:43.300
and then like yeah you're now entering didn't

01:27:43.300 --> 01:27:47.159
really like i don't know it it just felt like

01:27:47.159 --> 01:27:51.199
okay we just blazed it felt like a ride it felt

01:27:51.199 --> 01:27:53.960
like a theme park ride yeah you know what i mean

01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:57.359
we're like if you go on the mummy ride at universal

01:27:57.359 --> 01:28:00.560
like you see all these things that are references

01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:04.020
to the movies but there's no like actual plot

01:28:04.020 --> 01:28:07.800
like right this is just a plot just have the

01:28:07.800 --> 01:28:10.239
bare minimum of a plot and tell you all these

01:28:10.239 --> 01:28:12.720
things that later on you can't remember and it's

01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:15.060
don't have any meaning but right that's what

01:28:15.060 --> 01:28:18.680
it felt like to me like a ride i'm with you on

01:28:18.680 --> 01:28:21.140
that half ride that sometimes felt too long and

01:28:21.140 --> 01:28:24.560
also too short right Like, I don't know. You've

01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:26.659
seen a lot more bad movies than me. So you probably

01:28:26.659 --> 01:28:28.899
have had that where you feel like you're like,

01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:31.920
this movie feels like it's been, it never ends.

01:28:32.060 --> 01:28:34.619
It's never going to end. But it also feels like

01:28:34.619 --> 01:28:37.399
I just, I blinked and the movie was over. Right.

01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:39.699
Well, and that's the thing is it's very weird

01:28:39.699 --> 01:28:45.520
in the fact that like, yeah, it is kind of strange

01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:51.670
how it could feel too long and too short. Because

01:28:51.670 --> 01:28:54.810
you're exactly right in that fact that it is

01:28:54.810 --> 01:29:01.829
definitely too long and too short. I don't want

01:29:01.829 --> 01:29:04.310
to give this movie 15 more minutes, but I kind

01:29:04.310 --> 01:29:11.069
of do. In the fact that it probably does need

01:29:11.069 --> 01:29:17.189
more time to develop some of these ideas. Yeah.

01:29:20.460 --> 01:29:22.720
It felt like it was too short for what it wanted

01:29:22.720 --> 01:29:25.880
to do. Right. Which is like familiarize you with

01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:30.319
these like plot devices and characters and stuff.

01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:34.039
Yeah. But it was too long for how it approached

01:29:34.039 --> 01:29:35.779
it because like, even though there was something

01:29:35.779 --> 01:29:39.619
always going on, it was like very hard to focus.

01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:42.079
Right. You know what I mean? Right. And I guess

01:29:42.079 --> 01:29:44.180
that's where like, I guess that's where I don't

01:29:44.180 --> 01:29:48.340
know, like this movie, how it. how most people

01:29:48.340 --> 01:29:50.460
would react because I think most people probably

01:29:50.460 --> 01:29:52.939
wouldn't see it as negatively as I do but I guess

01:29:52.939 --> 01:29:58.619
I'm not like a super like you know like I think

01:29:58.619 --> 01:30:01.399
I know what I'm talking about with movies I'm

01:30:01.399 --> 01:30:04.840
entertained by dumb fun movies too oh same but

01:30:04.840 --> 01:30:10.140
this wasn't that right no it definitely was dumb

01:30:10.140 --> 01:30:13.859
but not fun like yeah this did not fall in the

01:30:13.859 --> 01:30:16.880
dumb fun category for sure There was some scenes

01:30:16.880 --> 01:30:22.060
that definitely could have done better. I think

01:30:22.060 --> 01:30:25.680
if they gave more love to the source material,

01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:28.840
I think that's my thing that would have made

01:30:28.840 --> 01:30:31.399
this better. I think they took from the source

01:30:31.399 --> 01:30:36.640
material, but just took. It was no, okay, we're

01:30:36.640 --> 01:30:40.600
just going to take this because we love this

01:30:40.600 --> 01:30:43.760
part of it, but we don't want to give any credit

01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:47.880
to it. That's my main issue with this movie.

01:30:51.060 --> 01:30:56.380
Some of the stuff was just stupid in the fact

01:30:56.380 --> 01:31:00.279
that he has the seal just glowing in his chest.

01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:07.279
It works in a video game because yes, you need

01:31:07.279 --> 01:31:09.699
those weak points and stuff like that, but you

01:31:09.699 --> 01:31:12.819
can also... drag out a boss fight and like that

01:31:12.819 --> 01:31:15.720
glowing weak point only appears in certain times

01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:20.479
you know yeah um in a movie it's like you can't

01:31:20.479 --> 01:31:22.619
have that going on forever you can't do a boss

01:31:22.619 --> 01:31:25.699
fight forever so it looks dumb when there's just

01:31:25.699 --> 01:31:27.579
a glowing weak point and this person's being

01:31:27.579 --> 01:31:31.279
carried and they can literally just yoink here

01:31:31.279 --> 01:31:34.390
we go i'm like Was she like locked in the room

01:31:34.390 --> 01:31:35.829
with him or something? Cause she couldn't escape.

01:31:36.069 --> 01:31:38.630
Right. Right. She was against the wall. Yeah.

01:31:38.710 --> 01:31:41.170
So the only two reasons he's two purposes he

01:31:41.170 --> 01:31:44.550
served basically was to one now complete this

01:31:44.550 --> 01:31:47.289
key item that is needed to move the plot along.

01:31:47.590 --> 01:31:49.649
And then the other thing is to break out of the

01:31:49.649 --> 01:31:51.949
room. Right. Cause he like, he's carrying her

01:31:51.949 --> 01:31:54.229
when he breaks them out of the room. So you're

01:31:54.229 --> 01:31:56.210
just moving them out of the room and you're just

01:31:56.210 --> 01:32:00.689
making this item now that was once. And he just

01:32:00.689 --> 01:32:04.600
revealed. i guess uh you know information about

01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:06.819
his relation to like vincent and all that right

01:32:06.819 --> 01:32:10.119
but other than that like it was just like another

01:32:10.119 --> 01:32:12.800
if they cut that part of the movie out i wonder

01:32:12.800 --> 01:32:14.560
how much stronger they could have made other

01:32:14.560 --> 01:32:17.380
parts of it you know right yeah oh there's definitely

01:32:17.380 --> 01:32:23.300
some parts like um i'm trying to think of a scene

01:32:23.300 --> 01:32:29.539
that we just did not need and i mean even like

01:32:29.539 --> 01:32:32.939
the nurse scene where like it's just serves the

01:32:32.939 --> 01:32:35.340
purpose of one once again like russian seeing

01:32:35.340 --> 01:32:38.100
these like creatures from the game and then just

01:32:38.100 --> 01:32:40.800
having vincent be locked up and so that she has

01:32:40.800 --> 01:32:44.180
to like rescue him but like there's very i think

01:32:44.180 --> 01:32:46.380
you there's very few scenes that you probably

01:32:46.380 --> 01:32:49.460
have to keep you know what i mean yeah i could

01:32:49.460 --> 01:32:51.880
have gotten rid of that whole thing um you could

01:32:51.880 --> 01:32:55.899
have just had vincent be really you could have

01:32:55.899 --> 01:32:57.920
killed him at that point honestly i know you

01:32:57.920 --> 01:32:59.300
wouldn't know because he was a love interest

01:32:59.300 --> 01:33:01.840
and everything like that But at that point, he

01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:04.659
served no other purpose except just to tell you

01:33:04.659 --> 01:33:06.739
to get to the sanctuary under the amusement park.

01:33:07.279 --> 01:33:11.359
And the way she kept stumbling into things, like,

01:33:11.420 --> 01:33:13.859
she got into the vent and ended up at the asylum.

01:33:14.300 --> 01:33:19.380
You know? And we all went, okay, she's at the

01:33:19.380 --> 01:33:21.960
asylum now. Like, yeah, it wasn't great. But

01:33:21.960 --> 01:33:24.800
she kept getting to places like that. And it

01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:27.039
was just like, okay, cool, you ended up there.

01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:31.369
Fine. I think with a video game, you move players

01:33:31.369 --> 01:33:34.430
along those places in a way that makes a lot

01:33:34.430 --> 01:33:36.550
more sense. You know what I mean? Or like you

01:33:36.550 --> 01:33:38.369
have a cut scene or something like that. But

01:33:38.369 --> 01:33:41.329
with a movie, it's like you don't want to show

01:33:41.329 --> 01:33:44.630
them driving every time from setting to setting.

01:33:45.010 --> 01:33:48.090
And so that's why I think, yeah, like even when

01:33:48.090 --> 01:33:51.210
the PI is following her and stuff, like you go

01:33:51.210 --> 01:33:53.609
through all these different settings that feel

01:33:53.609 --> 01:33:55.890
like completely different movies at this point.

01:33:57.399 --> 01:34:00.079
Especially because a lot of it is CGI and it

01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:03.039
hasn't aged the best. Right. I agree with that.

01:34:03.859 --> 01:34:07.439
All right. Out of five, what are you giving this

01:34:07.439 --> 01:34:12.380
thing? Oh, man. I'm an asshole, I guess. I would

01:34:12.380 --> 01:34:16.579
say it's like a one. That's not an asshole. People

01:34:16.579 --> 01:34:20.539
have given movies much worse. Out of five, it's

01:34:20.539 --> 01:34:25.890
one. one talisman keys of metatrons out of five

01:34:25.890 --> 01:34:31.029
keys of metatron i don't even know what it was

01:34:31.029 --> 01:34:32.890
anymore seal of metatron but yeah close enough

01:34:32.890 --> 01:34:35.510
yeah yeah that's it's close enough that's that's

01:34:35.510 --> 01:34:39.770
good it's mcguffin mcguffin of metatron one mcguffin

01:34:39.770 --> 01:34:46.609
out of five mcguffins yeah um okay if i was comparing

01:34:46.609 --> 01:34:50.029
this to a good movie i probably would be around

01:34:50.029 --> 01:34:53.229
that one Comparing it to the bad movies I've

01:34:53.229 --> 01:34:59.510
seen, it's a two out of five. Two out of five.

01:34:59.569 --> 01:35:03.949
I was going to use Metatron. Damn. Two out of

01:35:03.949 --> 01:35:06.430
five. I got to think of something now. Two out

01:35:06.430 --> 01:35:09.890
of five cannibal scenes that didn't need to be

01:35:09.890 --> 01:35:15.390
in this movie. Yeah. Yeah. So two out of five.

01:35:16.029 --> 01:35:19.229
Like I said, it's just a lot of this movie did

01:35:19.229 --> 01:35:22.960
not need to happen. um it needed more love to

01:35:22.960 --> 01:35:26.880
the source material and then i i really really

01:35:26.880 --> 01:35:31.579
wish i don't like mannequins so i don't get creeped

01:35:31.579 --> 01:35:33.619
like i don't get oh i get creeped out by them

01:35:33.619 --> 01:35:36.100
but i don't get scared of them so like the mannequin

01:35:36.100 --> 01:35:39.800
spider was a good thing for me um because that

01:35:39.800 --> 01:35:41.960
had a little more tension for me i just wish

01:35:41.960 --> 01:35:43.699
they would have stayed longer on that but i like

01:35:43.699 --> 01:35:45.720
the concept of it so that's that was that was

01:35:45.720 --> 01:35:47.319
one of those ones where i'm like sitting there

01:35:47.319 --> 01:35:52.020
going i like this this is good I want this good

01:35:52.020 --> 01:35:55.000
silhouette. Yeah. That's the, that's the thing.

01:35:55.279 --> 01:35:57.600
Yeah. So like that, that was the one where I

01:35:57.600 --> 01:36:02.100
was just like, yes, I'm here for this. I wish

01:36:02.100 --> 01:36:03.500
they would have spent more time with it, but

01:36:03.500 --> 01:36:06.840
you know, I was here for that. Story was confusing.

01:36:07.319 --> 01:36:14.560
Vincent sucks. Yeah. But yeah, I was. Yeah. Yeah.

01:36:14.680 --> 01:36:18.600
And Sean Bean didn't die. So. Yeah. That was

01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:21.920
what she wanted. If you wanted Sean Bean to die,

01:36:22.279 --> 01:36:24.779
you probably are going to be disappointed. If

01:36:24.779 --> 01:36:27.260
you didn't want Sean Bean to die, you might be

01:36:27.260 --> 01:36:30.840
happy. I was okay with Sean Bean not dying. I

01:36:30.840 --> 01:36:32.680
was a little disappointed he wasn't like a government

01:36:32.680 --> 01:36:35.699
agent or something that like end of the movie,

01:36:35.720 --> 01:36:37.800
all of a sudden started getting all action packed

01:36:37.800 --> 01:36:44.100
and pew, pew, pew. Yeah, he was just helpless

01:36:44.100 --> 01:36:46.560
dad. Yeah, he was helpless dad, which was a weird

01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:49.979
role to see him in. But yeah. He protected her

01:36:49.979 --> 01:36:54.220
and then he went back to Silent Hill. Yeah. Great

01:36:54.220 --> 01:36:57.560
protective dad. Two out of five. That means that's

01:36:57.560 --> 01:37:00.979
pretty bearable though. That I might watch on

01:37:00.979 --> 01:37:03.840
a flight. You know what I mean? I'm flying from

01:37:03.840 --> 01:37:06.920
here to Florida. Gotta fly for an hour and a

01:37:06.920 --> 01:37:08.920
half and that movie's on. I might throw it on.

01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:12.199
I could watch this again compared to some of

01:37:12.199 --> 01:37:15.960
the other shit I've sat through. Yeah. But the

01:37:15.960 --> 01:37:18.100
shitty part is I think some of the shit you've

01:37:18.100 --> 01:37:22.489
seen. they were trying to be bad or knew they

01:37:22.489 --> 01:37:24.810
were bad this was i think they thought they were

01:37:24.810 --> 01:37:28.289
kind of being good i think that i don't think

01:37:28.289 --> 01:37:30.229
that they were being full -blown insulting to

01:37:30.229 --> 01:37:33.850
to the viewer i think they were trying yeah just

01:37:33.850 --> 01:37:37.770
like i think they just were like i don't i think

01:37:37.770 --> 01:37:39.770
at this point they didn't know how much viewers

01:37:39.770 --> 01:37:43.130
are willing to like just kind of digest if you

01:37:43.130 --> 01:37:45.630
show them and kind of move them through the plot

01:37:45.630 --> 01:37:48.500
right versus just tell them a bunch of stuff

01:37:48.500 --> 01:37:50.520
and show them the characters and things they

01:37:50.520 --> 01:37:53.220
want to see. And they'll be happy. I think at

01:37:53.220 --> 01:37:55.859
this point, we know that that's not enough with

01:37:55.859 --> 01:38:00.760
like translating media, but right. Yeah. I'm

01:38:00.760 --> 01:38:03.779
looking at my list here and I definitely have

01:38:03.779 --> 01:38:05.739
it above alone in the dark. That's for sure.

01:38:06.600 --> 01:38:09.420
That movie was terrible. Like comparing it to

01:38:09.420 --> 01:38:14.970
other video game movies. Trying to think what

01:38:14.970 --> 01:38:17.810
other video game movies we've covered. I'm putting

01:38:17.810 --> 01:38:21.729
it above. Is it better than the old Street Fighter

01:38:21.729 --> 01:38:26.130
movie? Like that's bad where it's good. I think

01:38:26.130 --> 01:38:28.609
I like the old Street Fighter movie better, but

01:38:28.609 --> 01:38:31.470
I haven't watched that in a very long time. Or

01:38:31.470 --> 01:38:35.590
the original or the Mario, the 90s Mario movie.

01:38:35.670 --> 01:38:40.289
I love the 90s Mario movie. So I actually think

01:38:40.289 --> 01:38:42.289
I'll have a hard time saying it's better than

01:38:42.289 --> 01:38:45.520
that. I have not covered a lot of video game

01:38:45.520 --> 01:38:48.319
movies on here. It's definitely better than Alone

01:38:48.319 --> 01:38:52.159
in the Dark. Not better than Annihilation. Not

01:38:52.159 --> 01:38:54.880
better than Annihilation. I will defend Annihilation

01:38:54.880 --> 01:38:57.880
until the day I die. Better than Borderlands,

01:38:58.060 --> 01:39:02.859
barely, but better. That's a good point, because

01:39:02.859 --> 01:39:05.180
I know that one was really bad. I haven't seen

01:39:05.180 --> 01:39:07.239
that, and I actually have played Borderlands,

01:39:07.359 --> 01:39:10.180
but I knew it was bad from the jump, and I heard

01:39:10.180 --> 01:39:13.529
it was bad. I heard it wasn't even fun bad. I'm

01:39:13.529 --> 01:39:16.010
a bad judge for that one because I never played

01:39:16.010 --> 01:39:19.029
Borderlands. I have this two above Borderlands.

01:39:19.590 --> 01:39:23.229
Like all time list for movies I've covered on

01:39:23.229 --> 01:39:25.590
this thing. Two above Borderlands? That might

01:39:25.590 --> 01:39:28.229
be fair. I haven't seen Borderlands. I'll have

01:39:28.229 --> 01:39:31.369
to watch and get back to you. I watched Borderlands

01:39:31.369 --> 01:39:33.390
but I never played Borderlands so I'm an unfair

01:39:33.390 --> 01:39:35.829
judge of it because I don't have a love for the

01:39:35.829 --> 01:39:40.069
IP. I went in just completely blind and was like

01:39:40.069 --> 01:39:46.899
okay. I have it 22nd on my list of bad movies

01:39:46.899 --> 01:39:51.180
I've seen for this podcast. 22nd of all time?

01:39:51.359 --> 01:39:57.119
Yeah. How many is on the list? I have... Stand

01:39:57.119 --> 01:40:05.659
by. 62 films. Oh, so it's in the upper 30th percentile

01:40:05.659 --> 01:40:08.159
or something? Yeah, something like that. It is

01:40:08.159 --> 01:40:10.619
right below Avengers Grimm, but right above The

01:40:10.619 --> 01:40:18.369
Haunting 1999. oh man okay 20 yeah i mean that

01:40:18.369 --> 01:40:21.689
sounds about if i in my head if i was thinking

01:40:21.689 --> 01:40:24.609
about all the bad movies ever it's probably not

01:40:24.609 --> 01:40:27.850
like the worst worst but it's it's pretty bad

01:40:27.850 --> 01:40:31.789
it's it's yeah it's um and i think the fact that

01:40:31.789 --> 01:40:34.090
it's just not enjoyable is like what because

01:40:34.090 --> 01:40:35.850
like even the ones we were talking about are

01:40:35.850 --> 01:40:38.510
naming those are at least enjoyable bad you know

01:40:38.510 --> 01:40:42.720
right um Or even some comic book or superhero

01:40:42.720 --> 01:40:47.880
like the original Spawn. Yeah, right. I enjoy

01:40:47.880 --> 01:40:51.739
Spawn. It's not great, but I do enjoy it. That's

01:40:51.739 --> 01:40:55.680
bad, but it's still fun. Yeah, right. I don't

01:40:55.680 --> 01:40:59.340
know what happened with it. Yeah. It took itself

01:40:59.340 --> 01:41:01.760
too serious at times, I guess. My number one

01:41:01.760 --> 01:41:04.439
is still The Mousetrap, so take with that what

01:41:04.439 --> 01:41:07.789
you will. I have not seen that. Oh, that one

01:41:07.789 --> 01:41:10.430
was great. It's ridiculous, but it was great.

01:41:10.550 --> 01:41:13.390
I had a very good time with that one. It's terrible,

01:41:13.510 --> 01:41:19.470
but I had a great time with it. So, yeah. Oh,

01:41:19.970 --> 01:41:21.949
that's the one that came out. I had a feeling

01:41:21.949 --> 01:41:24.609
this is what you're talking about. Yep. Yep,

01:41:25.310 --> 01:41:27.930
exactly. That probably would be bad, though.

01:41:28.010 --> 01:41:29.850
But again, those I think they know they're going

01:41:29.850 --> 01:41:31.949
to be bad. Oh, yeah. It was terrible. This used

01:41:31.949 --> 01:41:34.250
a budget of $20 million or whatever. Yeah. Was

01:41:34.250 --> 01:41:36.949
that the budget? $20 million? This one, yes.

01:41:38.050 --> 01:41:41.550
That's a lot of money for this to be the result.

01:41:42.010 --> 01:41:45.550
A lot of it probably went to getting the IP for

01:41:45.550 --> 01:41:54.770
it. That makes sense. Thank you for joining me,

01:41:54.810 --> 01:41:58.390
buddy. I appreciate it. I wish I had more wisdom

01:41:58.390 --> 01:42:01.510
as far as the movie, but I'm glad to know that

01:42:01.510 --> 01:42:03.350
I'm not the only one who was kind of confused

01:42:03.350 --> 01:42:07.029
on it. Oh, I think a lot of people were going

01:42:07.029 --> 01:42:10.449
to be confused that watch this thing. Yeah. And

01:42:10.449 --> 01:42:12.789
I'm going to try to look up a video after this,

01:42:12.850 --> 01:42:16.109
probably just to see what, what I love trying

01:42:16.109 --> 01:42:19.729
to at least understand, you know, like, okay,

01:42:19.770 --> 01:42:21.409
what were the themes and stuff like that? But

01:42:21.409 --> 01:42:23.670
I don't, I don't think that was, I don't think

01:42:23.670 --> 01:42:25.569
it was a you thing. Yeah. I don't think it was

01:42:25.569 --> 01:42:29.420
a you thing. Yeah. But that'll do it for this

01:42:29.420 --> 01:42:31.340
episode of Game for a Movie where we ask, are

01:42:31.340 --> 01:42:33.739
you game for a movie? For Sergio and me, Mike,

01:42:33.859 --> 01:42:35.880
we will see you next time on the Game for a Movie

01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:38.640
podcast. Bye. Bye.