You know what that sound means? It's another
episode of Game for a Movie. It is episode 35.
I am your host, Mike Butank. I am joined by...
Mitchell? Is that who you're pointing to? Yeah,
right. I don't know. Yeah. Mitchell, question
mark? This is literally why I told you the order
ahead of time. We were literally on Zoom and
you pointed directly at your camera. Yes, well,
Mitchell was on screen. All right, well, we've
got Mitchell, Frodo, Sam, Andre, Sleepy, Dopey,
Doc. And Mike. Who are you? Who are you in this
mix? I'm either a Frodo or a Sam. It depends
on how I'm feeling. Okay, well, this is off to
a glorious start. Let's just talk about what
we're drinking because I don't even know where
to go after that. Hey, Mitchell, what are you
drinking? I am drinking some homemade cold brew
and it is very delicious and very energizing.
Nice. What do you got over there? I have an Earl
Grey tea and I cannot tell you who the company
is because I don't have the tea bag in front
of my face, but it's called Lord Grey. So it
might be, no, that's a beer. It's an Earl Grey
tea because I love Earl Grey. are we doing phrasing
tea bag in front of your face like can we do
phrasing there yes we can do phrasing i don't
think we'll get sued that is amazing that's great
tea bag in front of my face andre what are you
drinking back there so uh i got myself a tall
boy of the fat orange cats baby kittens the last
is that yeah you know for a special occasion
My tea is Lord Bergamot. By the way, my tea is
actually not called Lord Grey. It's Lord Bergamot
by Smith Tea Maker. Wait, wait. Addendum. I'm
reading the tall boy now. It is a hazy New England
style IPA. I was just going to say baby kittens
is not the double. No, but it's impressive that
I like baby kittens because it isn't a double,
but I really like baby kittens. That's the thing
about hazies. They're a little fruity. You never
know what you might like about it. I don't need
to taste. taste the hops i'm okay with that if
i can bite into a hop i would that's what i like
about my ipas same here but i am not drinking
a beer over here i have developed a cocktail
last night and i'm sure somebody has created
at some point in history but i just decided last
night on a drunken binge to create this uh two
shots of uncle nearest got a little bit of lemonade
and then a splash or two grenadine over the top
so i am calling it a cherry lindsberg lemonade
Cherry what now? Lynchburg Lemonade. We'd love
to try some of that. It is fantastic. It doesn't
taste like anything, even though there's two
shouts of alcohol in this bitch. I'm so excited
that you started on your mixology journey. Yes,
I love it. It's been fun. Andre made a flannel
shirt and a paper plane for me last week, and
both of those were deliciously deadly. Okay,
we're still talking about cocktails? or is it
did he just sew a flannel shirt together flannel
shirt it's like it's it's it's a bourbon and
apple cider drink it tastes like fall in a cup
it's really good okay nice wow i learned about
a campfire bonfire like a burning bonfire or
something like that and i'm intrigued to try
this it's uh cinnamon sticks you'd burn it put
the glass over the top and then you make the
cocktail and then it kind of like has that taste
it infuses the cinnamon It's yeah, it's bourbon.
It's a rum floater. Eventually there's Sunny
D in it of all things. And then the cinnamon
sticks go over the top of it. Okay. I'm not sure
if I'm in on the Sunny D. I know it sounds weird,
but I'm going to, I'm going to give it a shot.
We will have this together. Sunny D. Sunny D.
Yes. Sunny D. Yeah. Well, we'll try it. Final
thing on the cocktails. I was watching a scary
game squad on YouTube and they were talking about
this drink. They called it a starry night and
it was Goldschlager and Jaeger. Because the gold
would make stars. That sounds so nasty. Yeah,
that one sounds awful. That sounds so horrible.
Not for me. Well, we have become a cocktail podcast,
but really we have some movies to talk about.
Mitchell, you're going to kick us off with probably
the most recent movie. I'm just trying to think.
Oh, no. no drill actually does technically technically
technically technicality we got the present we
got the hits ladies and gentlemen yes we got
the hits in the last couple weeks absolutely
yeah um now guys i would have been talking about
space jam a new legacy but um i am only halfway
through it i had to stop did you rage quit or
did you have to like take a break no i i had
other things to do um okay so clearly watching
this movie was not a priority it was something
i was watching as i was cleaning the apartment
and then i had to go so that's where that's basically
what it was however I did see the movie that
was number one at the box office last week, and
that is Black Widow. And number one at the box
office this week. Let's just call it what it
is now. No, Space Jam beat it. Space Jam beat
it already? Yeah, Space Jam beat it. LeBron literally
just tweeted out to all of his haters that Space
Jam is top of the box office this weekend. Yeah,
but I think it's only going to be top of the
box office this one weekend. Sure. I think that's
honestly going to be the trend for movies. For
the rest of the year, probably it's going to
be a week, week by week thing. I'm not sure if
we're going to see movies that dominate for a
month like we have in the past, just because
I could stream this. You know, we could you could
stream Black Widow and Disney Plus. You could
stream Space Jam on HBO. Well, that's why I was
kind of surprised that Space Jam beat it was
because I figured people were streaming that
versus, you know, going to the theater. Now,
granted, it was only 32 so far, 32 million for
Space Jam. And Black Widow had a historic drop
off after week one. However, however, yeah, like
over 80 percent cut. But let's get into the movie.
I love the logistics of it all. I love the box
office numbers. But beyond the figures that it
earned globally and on Disney Plus, I'll say
this. I thought this thing was pretty successful.
And I'm not going to say that it is a top tier
Marvel movie. but damn it felt so good to watch
an mcu flick back in a movie theater like kevin
feige intended so this i know it was so fantastic
don't get me wrong i love loki wandavision and
falcon winter soldier they're fun marvel is still
definitely finding its footing with telling you
know episodic television stories they know exactly
what they're doing when you're watching something
on the big screen so this is a long overdue solo
flick for scarlett johansson as the character
natasha romanoff as black widow and this is set
right after captain america civil war for those
who We're interested to see where this fell in
the timeline because, spoilers, she's already
dead in the main timeline for the MCU. I know.
I'm sorry. It's a two -year -old spoiler at this
point. But she is alive and kicking a lot of
ass. The first half of the movie is basically
looking at the relationship that she has with
her family. That includes David Harbour and Florence
Pugh. Rachel Weisz, they did not. uh go cheap
when it came to rounding out this cast and they
have what i thought were some of the more i don't
know i thought a well -balanced and let me just
say this i'm only talking about the first half
when i'm blowing up this movie for how good it
is they have a good mixture of great action chase
sequences and they have a great mixture of family
dynamics and that when marvel is able to capture
both of those things in the same movie that's
when they soar then you have the second half
where mitchell's eyes glaze over and everything
goes boom really quick and it's one of the things
it's it's something that i hold against almost
every marvel movie where the stakes are so big
with the action It's one, kind of hard to follow.
And two, it's just so boring because when everything's
blowing up, nothing feels necessarily important
anymore. And it kind of looked cheap. That's
my biggest gripe against Black Panther 2, which
is my favorite. It looked cheap? It looked cheap.
The same way that the third act action sequences
in Black Panther looked cheap. Ooh, that's a
PS2 cutscene for a little bit there. Yeah. Mitchell,
can you clarify, is it just the over -the -top
bombastic explosions, or is it actually when
the camera is focused in on a hand -to -hand
fight scene? No, so the hand -to -hand is fine.
Now, granted, they do the MCU thing where they
just hypercut everything, but that's a style
choice at this point, which I think works in
certain cases. And like I said, the first half,
I thought the fight sequences were great. there
was a lot of cutting however i felt the impact
when florence pugh was punching scarlett johansson
i could feel that you know like all of those
different things the chase sequences i thought
were so well choreographed the opening of the
movie might be the best part where it starts
this is not a spoiler at all but it starts um
in natasha romanoff's childhood and where she
grew up and basically the big moment that sparked
this trajectory of her life when she would go
and become Black Widow. Do we finally get to
see what she saw in Age of Ultron all those years
ago? Not really. This scene takes place before
all of that. Got it, okay. And I'm not sure if
you necessarily need to see it. The idea is,
you know, again, not spoiling anything here,
but her sister is played by Florence Pugh, and
she goes through the same thing. However, Scarlett
Johansson gets out, Florence stays in. And there's
a lot of resentment there. So I think they do
a fairly good job within the first 10 minutes
of setting the table in that way. Like, hey,
here are the emotional dynamics between her and
her father, her and her sister, her and her mother.
And off we're running. So up until the end, again,
with all the action sequences, I thought this
was a worthy solo story. um it was almost kind
of like a throwback to phase one marvel movies
where there wasn't you know it wasn't burdened
with the idea of we have to push the overall
mcu narrative forward we're just telling this
black widow story and that was kind of refreshing
now granted i wish this came out five years ago
right like yeah after civil war came out right
you know you know at the uh that scene in end
game that ham -fisted girl power moment at the
final battle yeah yeah i need no man what marvel
was going for there they actually accomplished
in this movie in a legitimate way where it's
not clunky it's not clunky at all because you're
letting the characters lead the way this is a
natural story between two sisters in many different
ways this is a female directed movie in kate
shoreland uh uh the the showrunner for WandaVision,
I'm blanking on her name, Jack Schaefer, I believe
it is. She was a story by credit in this film
as well. So there was a lot of female storytelling
in this that was very legitimate as Jill's friend
is joining us on the Zoom. What was that? Oh
my goodness. Oh, Sophie. Oh, we should have been
talking about. I don't know, like Godzilla versus
Kong right there. I know, that was so easy. Talked
on over the computer. She's a big MCU fan. It
is Jack Schafer, by the way. Jack Schafer, yes.
So anyway, I have nothing to say but really good
things about it. It's outside of my top 10 for
MCU movies because we have done MCU talk before
in that regard. But it's definitely better than
something like Captain Marvel. or wow i would
say better than doctor strange you know and i'm
that's interesting because as soon as you said
it was like a throwback to phase one i immediately
thought captain marvel you know it's like that's
that's kind of what i thought when i was watching
it so keep in mind better than that in your head
oh i remember andre that when we did our epic
marvel rewatch you and i both walked out of captain
marvel saying it was much better than we first
gave it i did like it better on a real one for
sure gave it a first pass that's still a good
sign though but like i'm still kind of been i
haven't seen black widow yet so yeah yeah i think
the question sorry michelle go for it no i was
just gonna say as much as i could highly recommend
it when it comes to the mcu look at the end of
the day it's mid -tier and that is just a testament
for how good the mcu has done over the past 10
years right my big question that i have for you
mitchell is is it too little too late for what
like for this film where it's like this it's
really great to see it but what is it what does
it add or it's like no it doesn't matter that
maybe it's five years too late we're happy to
have this included in the marvel mcu canon yeah
i think in a perfect world they made they would
have made this movie five years ago and i think
that's when we could honestly have this storytelling
capture the moment in the best way possible at
the end of the day this is still a very enjoyable
movie and almost like a throwback to a james
bond flick where it's a part of a greater story
but at the end of the day it's about that film's
mission and that film's characters and then we
get to move on to something else so and i'm not
saying that marvel should do this all the time
i mean shang chi's coming out i doubt it's going
to deal with anything that's multiverse heavy
um from what i've heard it's going to take place
during the blip so it looks like at least for
right now marvel is just trying to tell character
driven movies um unless we're talking about these
big events that the disney plus series is setting
up well i think that's also because of the relaunch
of the characters since we do lose some of the
faces and everything like that they want to branch
out to different characters of course because
we have to reset the table again exactly we have
to yeah and that's this gets us for four more
movies absolutely and you know what i'll say
this before i give my rating the ultimate the
lasting legacy of this film is going to be twofold
One, David Harbour is just so funny. And I just
love watching him be like anything he wants to
be on screen. He has this great balance between...
Except for Hellboy. Except for Hellboy. That's
a tough one. For this Red Guardian role that
he plays, it is just so much fun to see a guy
sink his teeth into a role where he knows he's
a comic book character. He knows he's supposed
to be over the top and have this... kind of fantastical
point of view that he is the Russian Captain
America. And then at the same time, have an emotional
conversation with the person who I thought was
the best part of this movie. And that is Florence
Pugh. That's what I'm hearing a lot of. I've
heard that too. Yeah. She is fantastic. I've
been a fan of hers. I'm not a huge fan of the
movie, but her performance is fantastic in Midsommar.
She was fantastic in Little Women. I believe
she earned an Oscar nomination for that role
as well. And here she is in a Marvel movie kicking
ass alongside Scarlett Johansson. So she plays
Elena Belova. who is the sister of natasha and
she is a black widow as well she has all the
same skill sets just a little bit younger and
has a different experience of going through the
red room than natasha did uh one very key difference
which is basically the big plot point in the
movie i will give that away however this movie
definitely has a box to check in terms of introducing
her into the mcu making audiences care about
her because she's going to be in the Hawkeye
series. That's already been confirmed. And I
would not doubt that she's going to continue
to be in more Marvel projects beyond that. And
she is so much fun to watch. Nice. I was going
to ask you that. I held back because I was thinking,
do we want to spoil it that much just in case
you haven't seen it? But I mean, it feels obvious
at this point that she's going to be involved.
Yeah. Especially you bringing up the Hawkeye,
of course, but it feels. even further stretching
than that too yeah whenever i mean marvel did
such a good job in just getting talent especially
phase three and on i mean getting benedict cumberbatch
to be dr strange you know they're going after
a -list people to be these heroes and florence
pew is definitely one of them she may not be
a -list yet but she's definitely on the way Well,
what's interesting talking about that is for
the, I guess like a press tour for what they're
doing with Loki. There's been a lot of Tom Hiddleston
interviews and there was a good one. I think
he did it for Variety. Sorry, I'm trying to like
put my phone back and lift my feet. He did it,
I think it was for Variety where he did, instead
of, you know, him looking at his career, he was
just looking at his journey from the beginning
of Loki to... the show loki and talking about
how marvel really was at the time still is as
we can see taking chances on relatively no -name
actors and giving them this incredible key to
a massive kingdom and look at them now like who
knew who knew who chris hemsworth was before
thor came out who really i think kirk's dad yeah
yeah that was it that was it besides that one
time, he was Captain Kirk dead. Five minutes,
and then he blows up. And then Tom Hiddleston,
if you were outside of... If you were not a BBC
fan, you probably didn't recognize him. And now,
you know, some of the biggest stars in the world.
And I love Florence Pugh. Pugh? Pugh? Pugh. Pugh.
She's a fantastic actress. I loved her in Little
Women. definitely deserved her nomination because
her character in the book is probably one of
the more whiny ones so to make that character
actually like likable is an impressive feat yeah
so um marvel keeps um racking up the w's and
i'll say this again mid -tier and you guys know
how i rate things so don't take this as a slight
at all for people who really enjoy this movie
But I'm going to give Black Widow a very solid
two and a half Taskmasters. And I didn't even
talk about Taskmaster. I was about to say, yeah,
we didn't hear anything about the villain. Taskmasters
is more of a punching, not a punching bag, but
just like a fighting thing. I wouldn't even call
Taskmaster a character, unfortunately. Gotcha.
That's definitely one of the weaker points of
the film as well. That's a bummer for me. But
yeah, two and a half. Okay. Okay. all right jill
that brings us to you uh and you have a couple
movies to tell us about yeah so i didn't intend
to talk about a trilogy but it just kind of worked
out that way um if you are a netflix subscriber
or have a screen that's connected to the internet
you probably have seen advertisements for the
new fear street trilogy they came out over the
last three weeks So part one is a fear street,
1994. The second part is fear street, 1978. And
then the most recent and final entry in the trilogy
is fear street, 1666. I just watched part one
yesterday, actually. So yeah. They're based off
of the fear street. horror um teen horror series
by rl stein um massive giant series i remember
when i was really young and my sister would go
we would go to the library she would be busy
in the teen section and i would just look at
the covers of these books i never actually read
any of them um and they were all directed by
the same person let me get the name uh lee uh
janek I'm not sure if I'm not... Janik? I'll
take it. She did a great job. It helped that
it was one director, so very consistent in style.
I don't want to say too much because it's very
quickly to snowball into spoilers, but if you
are a fan of horror films, meta -horror films...
you like a little gore you like a lot of camp
these are the films for you the first film is
a love letter to the you know the scream era
of films you've got the masked somebody coming
at you with a knife uh fear street part two is
a throwback more to summer camp horrors so i
um not uh yeah friday the 13th i was gonna say
cabin fever but no not captain no not kevin friday
the 13th um and then part three is definitely
the most often cards are not the right word but
it is definitely the one with the most style
and if you were a fan of the witch this is the
and it's this is actually my favorite entry now
part three um it's done in that style and it's
got a fantastic cast a lot of unwrecked to me
uh new talent um i think the most in my the of
the names of the of the actors that stood out
it was sadie sink who plays max in the very popular
stranger things also on netflix but yeah this
is a really great cast it's fantastically acted
it's diverse too so you really like feel that
as if these are real characters, their choices
and their actions make sense in the world that
they have established. And the mystery is really
good too. I would say if there had to be nitpicks
or criticisms, part two is very good, but probably
15 minutes too long when your franchise is over
330 minutes long. Those extra minutes start to
add up. They feel like a lot of weight. But I
think Netflix did the smart thing by actually
releasing them each week rather than all at once
or making this one massive multi -hour experience.
And you can watch one of the hour and 45 minute
long episodes, films, put it down, think about
it, come back the next night, go into part two.
So I would say. Definitely a watch. If you are
a little worried about how gory they are, there
is blood, there is gore, there is guts. It is
not a grind fest like Saw or Hostel, but if you
are a little squeamish around those type of things,
it's there. This is not a PG horror series. This
is definitely PG -13 approaching on R. They love
their foul language in these films. Agreed. So,
yeah. I can't believe that Sadie Sink was the
big name you gave. I mean, yes, she is a big
name. I guess Maya Hawk. Okay, Maya Hawk too.
Oh, yeah. But Jillian Jacobs. Oh, yeah. Except
I don't really know what Jillian Jacobs is from.
Community, come on. Which I haven't watched.
But she's been in everything. She's been in a
lot of different things. I'm just going to pull
her up now. Let's go through Hot Tub Time Machine.
Haven't seen it. Don't think twice. Haven't seen
it. She's in Invincible. I've seen that, but
she's only a voice actor. Oh, she's Adam Eve.
Oh, okay, yeah. She was in those Diet Coke commercials
about the yurt. If you want to live in a yurt,
go live in a yurt. Have you ever been in a yurt?
Yurts suck. I have not been in a yurt. I don't
want to be in a yurt, but I'm just pointing it
out. She was the... person in that i have gone
i have skimmed her filmography on wikipedia i
don't think i have seen any of the films that
she is in you need to get on community you just
need to do it it's like how i feel about hunger
games everyone's like oh you should watch it
i'm like I don't know how the Hunger Games get
mixed into this. Yeah, exactly. You need community,
not Hunger Games. Yeah. Well, we can watch it
together, Jill. It'll be great. I've heard of
the movie Seeking Your Friend for the End of
the World. Is that the one with Steve Carell?
Yep. And who's the other one? Adam Brody. Hey,
we're bringing it back to Adam Brody. So, Jill,
with these movies being based on R .L. Stine
books, which obviously were intended for children
and like. an introductory to the horror genre
at least for me um do you feel like these movies
up the scare level a little bit or did it match
what you had expected from the books so keep
in mind i never read the fear street series i
did read um goosebumps like most most children
or um that and for me it was goosebumps i didn't
read fear street either i would say that it it
definitely helps that they are not trying to
aim this at a target audience of like tweens
they know that their their their target audience
is 18 and up they know 17 and 16 year olds are
watching this but they don't care um yeah i think
they do a really good job i think if you are
a fan of horror films you can kind of see where
the thing is where it's gonna go but there are
some good um good kills there's this is not really
a jump scare fest gotcha yeah i did the only
other thing that i can think of to say is that
They do try to set the first two parts, 1994
and 1978, clearly are period pieces from the
recent past. The last entry, 1666, is a deep
period piece. My one other complaint, besides
maybe the length, is that 1994 has a lot of anachronisms
that really annoyed me. What do you mean? A character
is using AOL. in what year was 1994 yeah 96 and
it was like on a chat room too like that was
a big deal too it was an important it's an i
don't want to say it's a super important plot
point but it establishes that a character is
genre savvy yeah um and it's like i don't think
i don't think computers could do that and if
they could you could definitely not afford one
yeah i definitely didn't think that way but yeah
that's definitely yeah it was just a little distracting
yeah and from there i just couldn't unsee it
and then the you know the really good soundtrack
but also it's songs that came out after 1994
yeah that bugged me more but i did like the soundtrack
i didn't think that was very good it had you
know if the worst thing i can say is that this
movie has its own distinct style and just leans
right into it you know what better to have a
unique style even if it might have anachronisms
than no style at all and be very bland yeah uh
what would you say rating wise then for the entire
series for the entire series i would say 4 .3
sarah for your hands okay let's hear for your
hands 4 .3 that's really high yeah no i actually
really enjoyed it you know it is it once again
it helps that i could watch it each week rather
than all in one go and it really worked it helps
that these characters are all so likable and
the way that they're utilized makes you care
Even though the other actor, the same actor might
be playing a different character in a different
time period. They do their homework. They lay
down the groundwork and foundation for why you
should care about these characters in one time
period. And then they find a way to bring in
these connections to make you care about a different
character that the same actor might be playing
in a different time period. And it still resonates.
Do you need to watch all three to really appreciate
it? Or can I just watch the 1666 one? Because
that sounds the most interesting. That's a really
good question. I actually was thinking about
like, could you start, could you, depending on
when you jumped into 1666, could you just watch
it? You should at least see part one. Part two,
if it had to be skipped, could be skipped. You
will miss out in meeting two characters in particular,
but to really appreciate why 1666 hit so hard,
you need to see the story in part one. Gotcha.
Good to know. But part one's really good. So
it starts off well. It's not like, oh, all right,
episode one was rough. Maybe it'll get better
in episode or film two. And to be honest, I'm
not going to watch this now because I often hoard
horror movies for October. Yeah. And I feel like
this is going to be a weekly viewing experience
for me come October. And I'm really excited for
it. Yeah, I would totally watch these again in
October if Andre wants to. I've been trying to
get Claire because I think she would actually
like that. She doesn't like horror movies, but
I think she would like this. What's the word?
They advertise when gore is going to happen pretty...
There's a few like, oh my, but they do the camera
around a room. You can kind of figure out, oh,
I think that item is going to come into play
momentarily or something like that. That'll bring
us to Andre. Andre, tell us about what you have
been watching. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, it's a
few weeks old at this point, but Jill and I watched
Pixar's Luca. uh on disney plus and look at mitchell's
face it looks so adorable and i heard it's such
a wonderful movie and i hope that you guys don't
dunk on it right now because it is delightful
and i do like the way that it is animated even
though the style does just make me wish it was
stop motion animation because it looks like it
now yeah Yeah. No, I mean, honestly, I feel like
we're saying this with every single Pixar release
at this point, but this movie looks impeccable.
If they ever do a re -release in theaters, I
would love to go see it in theaters because it
just looks absolutely gorgeous. So real quick,
it's just Jill and I that have seen it, right?
Correct. Okay, cool. All right. So off the top,
I really, really, really enjoyed this movie.
This is not like... uh this is not going to be
like a super like earth -shattering film or you
know like it's not going to be like world -changing
or super unique um it doesn't really rank up
there for me for like the all -time pixar greats
like wally or toy story toy story 3 that kind
of echelon but honestly this was just such a
a nice warm comforting movie to watch uh and
i really really dug it um Just off the bat, so
I guess high level, the movie is about a group
of sea monsters. So the whole conceit is that
this takes place in Italy, I think in like what,
out of time, like 1950s, 1960s. Um, and there
are sea monsters that live near this port side
town called Porta Rosso. Uh, and, uh, the whole
concept is that the fish, the, or the, the, the,
the port town is they're all there. They're basically
sea. the sea sea monsters like they're they're
all hunting for them right um they're all kind
of like that's kind of the culture it was like
oh there's reports of sea monsters around and
there's a you know that that's the conceit and
all the sea monsters live underneath they don't
interact with humans at all it's a little bit
like finding nemo and that whole like you stay
away from the boats you don't interact with humans
at all it's kind of a forbidden thing to go to
the surface i touched the butt right yeah the
whole opening 20 minutes is very that um it focuses
on our titular character luca who is a sea monster
living in a small breezy town underwater he's
kind of a little he's he's very curious he wants
to go to the surface kind of uh again draws a
lot like literally it's like little mermaid meets
uh finding nemo at first and so i wasn't super
engaged at first but As soon as Luca meets his
number one compadre, Alberto, it gets way more
engaging. Alberto is maybe one or two years older
than Luca, kind of tries to play it off like
he's a really worldly guy, knows what he's doing,
and he basically gets Luca to crack out of his
shell and come to the surface and hang out on
their own little deserted island. It's very charming.
It's just a really solid friendship story about
boyhood and growing up. And yeah, I mean, so
basically the main crux of it is that Luca and
Alberto dream of a one day. getting a vespa to
try to ride around and and and ride into the
stars because they try to make their own makeshift
uh makeshift vesta vespa on their own deserted
island and they're like well if we go to puerto
rosso and the and and see like the city of vespas
we can get our own and we can get off this planet
and and ride in the sky and it's all very charming
um and i don't know uh that's kind of the main
uh that's the main point of them going to the
port town and uh I don't know. I don't want to
get too bogged down in the narrative, but it's
just – this movie, the narrative beats are not
super surprising at all. I will say that I appreciate
that it does not have the tropey twist villain.
As soon as the villain shows up on screen, you
know it's the villain, and you absolutely hate
his guts. Ercole, Visconti, everybody's name
is just – I don't know. They're also Italian.
They're Italian, yeah. Super charming. Um, I
mean, so I would say probably about most of the
cast is not Italian. So, uh, it's kind of interesting
to see them try to try to pronounce their, their
names or whatever. I don't know how authentic
it is, but, um, still it's, it's just, it's,
it's all very over the top. Uh, Julia, the, the
human girl that, uh, Alberto and Luca befriend,
she's always like exclaiming in different pastas.
Like, you know, I don't know. It's, it's like
Santa, um, or something like that. I think they
go through most of them by the end. And this
all sounds cheesy and a little bit much, but
honestly, just with the way everything looks,
especially the water effects, holy moly. So the
main thing is that with the sea monsters, Luca
and Alberto, as soon as they get wet. they as
soon as they go uh outside the water they they
they turn human basically right they look like
normal humans but if any water gets on them their
scales start showing up again they look like
sea monsters so uh the whole tension is them
trying to blend in with the human crowd the the
human culture and everything like that uh but
the the effect of water touching their skin and
as they're jumping in and out of the ocean it
just it looks incredible i just wanted to break
it down like frame by frame and it just it all
looks great It also sounds great. I love a Pixar
soundtrack. This one, I liked Soul, but this
was probably one of the better scored Pixar films,
in my opinion, since Coco and Inside Out. The
soundtrack to this film is phenomenal. I listened
to it the day after or a couple days later. And
it resonates still. You feel, you know, as Andre
was saying, it's a small, it's a smaller scale
story. You know, it's not what if feelings had
feelings, you know, what if toys had feelings,
you know, it's. Closer to a Miyazaki film, which
is not... What if sea monsters had feelings?
It's not even that, though. What I was trying
to say is it's similar to a smaller scale story
in a Miyazaki or a Ghibli story. This is actually
a love letter to Ghibli films. And that's not
an accidental connection. Yeah, Portorosso is...
Portorosso, come on. Portorosso is a film by
Ghibli. Julia, basically, Julia is Kiki from
Kiki's Delivery Service. No, she's Tombo. Well,
right, Tomba, right, right. She's wearing his
outfit. Yes, but also just, like, her entrance,
though, right, is just straight out of Kiki,
right? When she comes zooming down on the bike?
Oh, yeah, in her, the way that she is sitting
on it, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, continue
on, Joel. Yes, exactly. It was such a really,
like, great film, but the fact that the soundtrack
and the score is so phenomenal pushes it. Into
a whole other tier. This is definitely not. The
worst Pixar has ever done. Oh my no. This is
not the good dinosaur. This is not Cars 2. No
I mean the good dinosaur is also not good. It's
not Cars 2. not even it's better than brave you
know right it's it's just a really really sweet
story that i think a lot of pretty much anyone
can resonate even if you are not a sea creature
or italian or if you ever wanted a vespa i know
it's hard to look at me and just and see this
but i i really wanted brave to succeed better
than it did i thought brave was going to be great
until someone's like oh you don't know know what
bears bears You mean Boo from Monsters, Inc.,
who is now the witch? Yeah. Does this fit into
the Pixar theory in any way? I have not clicked
into it, but I've seen... Yeah, I don't know.
I'll have to rewatch it and see in the background.
Once you've watched the film, Google it. People
have already tried to figure out where it falls
in the timeline. I think it's supposed to be
after WALL -E and EVE rebuilt. What? What? I
don't, dude. Well, look, if you watch Loli at
the end of it, you've seen the ending montage.
Yes, I have. It's definitely the future. If you're
saying it's 1950s and this is the future, like,
what? I think that makes sense because it's before
monsters take over and I can see this as sea
monsters kind of being that bridge. Maybe. But
the main thing is that the sea monsters don't
live off of fear, right? They don't use scare
energy, right? And now you've got the new Monsters,
Inc. universe show where it's laugh energy. And
then here's the thing. Total tangent, but I forgot
that I didn't realize that the sea monsters,
they just eat fish too, right? So there's a little
section where Julia, the human friend, introduces
Luca and Alberto to her father, who's a fisherman,
right? Oh my gosh, what is her father's name?
Massimo. Oh, I love Massimo. Anyways, he He's
like a very stern, large guy. He has a hook for
a hand, and he's supposed to be very intimidating.
He's a total softie, though. He's one of my favorite
characters in the film. His cat Machiavelli.
And their cat is named Machiavelli. It's so cute.
Anyway, so... Massimo takes out, he's like, we
need fish. That's his main source of income.
They're like, we need fish in order to save up
for the race, in order to try to get the Vespa.
He takes Alberto out fishing. I thought there
was going to be some big moral quandary. He's
going to have to tell Massimo where all of his
friends are. They're going to kill him. Alberto's
like, yep, they're right over there. I'm like,
oh, they're treating them like livestock. Got
it. Never mind. That was a disconnect on my part,
not the movie's fault. There's a very real moment
there where I was like, wow, it's going to get
pretty dark. The theory that I'm finding, and
this is not a spoiler, is that because Luca and
Alberto are sea monsters, that's the connection
to the Monsters Inc. universe. So, late after
WALL -E rebuilds the world. Well, I'll have to
give it another rewatch in order to see how this
fits into the great Pixar canon. um but for now
honestly luca i i haven't i have trouble saying
it's like a super landmark movie like some of
pixar other pictures other films are but it's
absolutely a great watch and just a really great
feel -good movie and it's a solid story about
boyhood um so on that note i will give it i think
3 .25 machiavelli's out of five Such a cute cat.
I love Machiavelli's cat. Very good cat. Have
you guys, as anyone else in the room has seen,
Call Me By Your Name? Wait, wait, wait. You mean
the Timothy Chalet and Cannibal Hammer? Cannibal
Hammer. And Army Hammer, that's right. Just because
this movie has drawn a lot of comparisons with
it because it's set in Italy, it's set... in
the not too distant past i guess if we're using
our earth timeline if it being the 1950s call
me by your name is in the 80s i believe yeah
um and it's about In that case, it was about
a romantic romance developing between two male
characters. In this case, it sounds like this
is a friendship between two male characters.
This is absolutely, yeah. And so Jill and I were
kind of having this conversation where looking
at the poster and looking at the pre -release
trailer. Oh, it's the trailer. It was the trailer.
You definitely can, like, if you watch the trailer
for Luca, you could definitely, I could definitely
see a narrative where Luca and Alberto are coded
to be romantic with, like, in a romantic relationship,
I guess. What's up? Yeah, so to close on that,
but even though that they themselves are not
actually coded to be queer, there is queer undertones
to this. film even without the characters actually
being queer you know Luca is interested in the
human world but told to stay away from it because
it's dangerous so the fear of the unknown and
then when they're up there they have to not be
who they really are because they need to blend
in with the humans there's actually a lot of
language that you can interpret as trans or intersexual
for sure with that whole like hiding yourself
and having to having to conceal yourself and
whatever I don't want to spoil the end of the
movie but Definitely, when characters talk like
that, you can definitely get those tones for
sure. But as for the main two characters, I definitely
don't get that vibe that they're romantically
interested in each other at all. They don't need
to be. Yeah, and I don't think it needs to be.
No, I think there is a genuine love between those
two characters that's very heartwarming, but
it's not a romantic love, I don't think. Nice.
Gotcha. That being said, I'm definitely open
to a story like that. I don't know, this is made
by a company that's still not sure. They always
put out headlines like, whoa, this is the first
gay character in a Pixar movie. And it's really
like the ace. And it's like, okay, they only
show on screen for like two seconds or something
like that. There was a hilarious article on the
Mary Sue about, not Luca, I can't remember, maybe
it was from Cruella. um whereas like disney announces
its first openly gay character and the article
was saying like join the rest of them yeah disney
can't seem to keep track no he was gay yeah he
wasn't openly that's what it was yeah the other
character and on where they said oh yeah that
police officer she has a girlfriend yeah yeah
they they really they they they really They're
really happy to announce when there is a gay
character, but it's like, why did you give us
a neon sign for something that we would need
a magnifying glass to notice? Why do they have
to be defined as they're gay? They're this person
and they happen to have a husband. Yeah. I agree.
I guess that brings it to me. It does. Let me
hear it. uh we put out a poll and i'm never going
to suggest that again because that did not go
well for me at all uh you guys voted you wanted
me to talk about the bad movie jill and i have
an arrangement of if we lost it would be the
next bad movie so jill has picked out for me
brats the movie And we're not talking about the
animated Bratz because they did make some animated
movies. They're like hour long specials, you
know, like the Barbie movies that seem to keep
getting released and everything like that. This
is the live action Bratz movie. Talk about it.
Talk about it. What is your connection to the
Bratz? Did you ever play with one? Did you ever
even touch one? I think I was too old for Bratz.
Bratz was like out of our childhood. Bratz was
like the weird follow -up to Barbie, right? Yes.
Like I can admit openly, like I've played with
a Barbie or two before. I never owned them, but
I've played with them before. Sure. Brad's doll
was never on my radar except for my young cousins
had one of them. And I think they all had Sasha,
but I'm not sure. I didn't even tell you which
one that was. So, well, our four characters are
Yasmin, Chloe, Sasha, and Jade. Yasmin is Hispanic
and is a very good singer, but is also stage
fright. Chloe is an excellent soccer player,
but is also a klutz. Sasha. wants to be a cheerleader
and her parents are divorced. They made a point
of that. And Jade is the Asian girl who has overbearing
parents and all she wants to do is be really
smart at science but also really good at fashion.
So if that sounds like any of you, good luck
with that. Jade sounds like a cheetah girl character.
A little bit, yeah. Combined into two people.
Like, yeah, I would agree with that. Mike, there's
a big name actor in this movie, too. There's
a few. Oh, I will get to it. There is a gigantic
name. Yes. Yes. Don't worry. I will get to it.
And I want to know which one you think is the
gigantic actor, because you say there's a few,
Jill. There is definitely not a few. There is
one big name. There's two. Maybe two. Okay. I
definitely know the one. I'm curious who the
two is. Well, I don't know who number two is,
yeah. I'm curious who number two is as well.
We talked about them. Okay. Well, I mean, we
have Jon Voight. I'm going to get to Jon. Yes!
The Voight in the room. The Voight in the room.
Don't worry. I've got notes on all of this. I've
got a huge list of notes, so let's just do it.
Let's dive in. My first note is not a chance
any of these girls are in high school. It is
that definite trope of, like, these are mid -20s
girls. playing high school characters i don't
know 2007 one of the actresses was born in 1992
so how old would they have been in 2007 they
would have been 15 15 yeah so she would have
been in high school all right but the rest was
yasmin yasmin okay okay the one who played chloe
definitely was older than 15. she was born in
1986. okay though and jade was 88. okay Also.
And then. Yes. So one of them was appropriately
aged. The funny thing is that's the one I would
have guessed was definitely not a high schooler,
which is sad for her. So the movie starts with
like Yasmin, like waking up. and she immediately
jumps on the computer to skype her friends and
you can tell they're four besties they've been
friends forever they will always be friends forever
everything is bubble gum and candy um they skype
every day to pick out outfits and like show each
other what they're wearing I guess. Such high
maintenance. Yeah, so that started. Yasmin is
Hispanic, like I said before. She, like, goes
to her house, and just to drive home that she's
Hispanic, there is a mariachi band in her kitchen.
Like, a full mariachi band. As you do. There's,
like, they have the hats, they have the look,
they have the guitars. I'm sorry, I don't, like,
is there, like, are they just, that's her family,
or they just have a... They don't address it
ever again. Okay. There is a mariachi band in
her kitchen, and, like, they're tuning their
instruments. That is what it is. Like, is that
her origin story, is that her family's a traveling
mariachi band, and that's how she got her musical
chops? Are you a descendant of a main character
from Coco, whose name I'm blanking on? Uh, maybe?
Well, that's the opposite of the, uh, well, I
guess whatever it'll be. Yeah, yeah, you're right,
you're right, you're right. Anyways. So, um,
we also meet, uh, Booby. Booby. Booby. No, it
is Booby. It's not pronounced Booby. It is Booby.
Booby. Uh, who is played by Lainey Kazan, who
is also the mother in My Big Fat Greek Wedding.
She's number two, the other paro, slightly famous
person. Yes, she is the slightly famous person.
I would not go very famous person. We know who
she is, but, I mean, she's made a career of the
same role. She's a Jewish actress pretending
to be a Hispanic mom. Yes, and it gets very Hispanic.
Okay, the font of the opening credits is Comic
Sans. I just need to point that out because that's
what I just need to point out. Of course, I addressed
all the stereotypes. This whole movie is about
stereotypes and clicks and whatever. So they
get to high school, their first day of high school,
and they're like, we're going to be the best
of friends. And they do like even like best friends
forever and like do like hands in thing before
they go in, which annoyed me. They go to head
bitch whose name is Meredith, I believe. Is that
like a prefect, the head bitch? Headbitch? All
my notes say headbitch. I did not bother to learn
her name. I'm pretty sure it's Meredith, but
it is headbitch. It is Meredith. Yes, that's
it. Chelsea Kane, who's been in other things,
I think. But it's headbitch. So headbitch has
bragging to her friends about how she has organized
all the seating arrangement by click. So there's
the loners, there's the goth kids, there's the...
have some overlap i'm sure there's the jocks
there's the cheerleaders there's the smart kids
nerds and stuff like that um and then we go to
john voight john voight is the principal and
head bitch's dad the first thing we see with
him is he is reading a book called prison for
dummies what just in case you didn't know that
high school is a prison we've got this ham -fisted
just prison for dummies book that he is reading
maybe he's like reading up on it after his brief
time at uh camp green lake no head bitch gave
it to him as a present so that he could follow
along with her click ways i hate it when kids
parent the parent also we got some thunder in
my area Oh, that's thunder. Is that what that
is? Yeah. Oh yeah. You can hear that. Yeah. That's
thunder. Okay. Yeah. We're hearing something.
Yeah. Sorry. So this launches us into a montage
showing us how great these four are at their
things, but not the four. It's just the three
of them. So I want to talk about this montage.
There is a terrible CGI science project done
by Jade. I'm not going to be able to keep them
straight. There's a crazy cheerleading performance
by Sasha. And finally, Chloe on the soccer field
does a bicycle kick. Hey, that's cool. Okay.
Dude, that's tight. Is that your brat, Mitchell?
Is that who you identify with right now? Getting
some Liu Kang vibes over here. Wow. Yes, absolutely.
They also show us in the montage that... We know
that Yasmin wants to sing, but she doesn't want
to put herself through it. So she's just staring
into the choir room like, I want to sing. She
accidentally walks into somebody who is a deaf
person. We don't learn his name at this time,
so I don't have it until farther down the list.
But she's like talking to him and he like talks.
I'm going to say typical. is what I will say.
It's not normal. You know, it's, it's typical.
So he's not, you're a stereotype deaf person
and she apologizes and he can't understand her
because she's not looking at him and he can read
lips really well. And so he's just like, sorry,
I'm deaf, like typical voice and everything like
that. And she's like, you don't sound deaf. And
he goes, well, you don't look ignorant, but you
can't judge a book. Right. And that is the best
line of the entire movie. Dude, that line goes
hard. I love it. Dude, I'm going to use that.
I'm so stealing that line. Do it. I have a note
of holy damn own. Does that line feel out of
place in this movie? Yes, very. Okay. It definitely
does. Even with this character, like it just
feels out of place. You learn more about him
and it's just like, Oh, Oh, come on, man. I hope
he was like practicing in the mirror. If that's
the character. Oh, no, I just have images of
this actor, like staring at the mirror, getting
ready. Yeah. Cute. So basically then it goes
to lunchtime and they're all like, okay, we're
going to sit together. And so like they climb,
they go together or whatever. And. All of a sudden,
the cliques are asking for them. The cheerleaders
want Sasha to join them. The nerds want Jade
to join them. The soccer girls want Chloe to
join them. And who's left? Yasmin, our main character,
pretty much, because she's the one that gets
the most time and they want you to feel the worst
for. And then it jumps ahead two years. Two years?
Two years. Wow. And somehow Head Bitch is still
in high school. I don't know how, because she
obviously has some kind of ranking where she's
at the top. She's not a freshman, too, that's
already implemented this thing. She's got to
be somehow there. Maybe she failed secretly.
Maybe. Or she knew that life doesn't get better
after high school, and she doesn't want to admit
her peak. Right. This movie brings up a talent
show, and you just know where it's going to go.
They're going to form a band or something to
win the talent show, right? Hell yeah. Maybe.
Well, that's spoilers. We'll get to there. But
in order to compete in the talent show, you need
to post your audition on MySpace. Oh, outdated
technology. A little tech alert. I think that's
outdated even for 2007. Is this when this came
out? Yeah. Facebook was definitely the thing.
So we also learned the deaf kid wants to learn
music. So there's an awfully awkward, like, DJ
thing with the music teacher where it teaches
him to, like, feel the beat on the speaker. And
then he can, like, DJ while he's feeling it.
And it's just super awkward and, like, uncomfortable.
Is that not how sound vibrations work? Oh, my
goodness. You know what? I've never been deaf,
so I can't really tell you. Isn't that, like?
Did you ever see the movie Mr. Holland's Opus?
Because isn't his son deaf? And, you know, the
whole thing is that his character, it's something
Macy. What are we talking about? William H. Macy.
William H. Macy in Mr. Holland's Opus. He's either
a musical teacher or something like that, but
his son is deaf and he can't connect with him.
They have a breakthrough and I thought it was
like the sun could feel the vibrations of the
music. You're way beyond me on this. I have no
clue. I don't know. It sounds kind of too daredevil
-y to me, but I don't even know. Well, our four
heroines get into a bit of an argument with each
other because Chloe is a klutz and is talking
to Head Bitch's ex -boyfriend. No, boyfriend
at this point. So Chloe is like awkwardly together
with the boyfriend, but not really. um head sends
her dog who is just on campus to go like attack
her and make her trip she drops spaghetti on
yasmin who then like falls on a skateboard to
send spaghetti onto sasha who gets really mad
and throws it at yasmin but ends up hitting jade
and of course it starts a food fight because
you know that's what it does uh and why do all
of them have spaghetti that's what i want to
know it was spaghetti day in the cafeteria it's
you got a carbo load they're getting ready for
a long run the next day i think that's what you
gotta do they're growing they're growing girls
they're growing girls mike like and everything
about that they're growing brats i also want
to know so when she slips on the skateboard there's
a wilhelm scream oh that's great really yes i
don't know where it goes um They get they accidentally
knock over the principal statue. He puts them
in detention. They save friendship a few times
trying to figure out why they why they can't
basically be friends again. Somebody threw spaghetti
at somebody else. Well, and they kind of like
figure it out in detention. They're like, OK,
we're going to break the system. We're going
to break the cliques, blah, blah, blah. I have
some notes. They still are covered in food. Nobody
let them clean off or get new clothes or anything
like that. They call each other bimbets, which
is a great term. Bimbets. Bimbets. That was right
over the house. Is this PG? I'm pretty sure it's
got to be. It's not G. It's not G. Is it? I was
going to say it's a little spicy. I mean, it
could be. What does IMDb say it is? I don't know.
I'm pulling it up. It's PG. PG. An hour and 50
minutes of my life has gone to this movie. That's
not too bad. Good for them. Get in, get out.
They create Operation Mingle, which is to get
everybody to mingle with each other. It sounds
like a dating app, to be honest. Yeah, that's
true. There's a part where Bobby and Yasmin are
singing in the room because they're happy they're
friends again, and they're singing La Cucaracha.
Wait, isn't Bubby and Yasmin mother and daughter?
Yes. So they're who are they were not friends.
Did they not become friends or were the brats
not friends? No, no, no. The brats were not friends.
They spent two years not talking to each other
and realized they're not friends anymore. And
then after this detention, they figured out Operation
Mingle. And now they're celebrating and singing
La Cucaracha together. Because it's royalty free.
That's why. Yasmin's brother records it. This
comes back later. Don't worry. Okay. I had a
note about Cameron is the head bitch's boyfriend.
He is ugly in this movie. Like, really ugly.
But IMDb, he got hot. Like, real hot. He long
-bottomed? Yes, he long -bottomed hard. Wait,
what's the guy's name? Cameron is the character.
Oh, Stephen Ford. Stephen Ford, yes. Stephen
Ford, okay. Yes, Stephen Ford. I want to take
a look. Yes. He's in Teen Wolf. Okay. Oh, yeah,
look at that. He's not being Teen Wolf. Come
on now. IMDB suggests if you liked this movie
to watch Baby Geniuses, the TV series. Yeah,
no, I'm good. I'm very good. That's great. What
else happened? Okay, so Yasmin's younger brother
basically goes over to Head Bitch's house because
he has a crush on Head Bitch's sister, Cherish.
Cherish? Cherish. That is a horrible name. Yes,
Cherish. So he goes over and basically head bitch
realizes he has something on his phone. So she
starts like pretend flirting with him. She's
in the middle of a pool and wants him to come
over to like show him or show her this video.
He walks in in a leather jacket into the pool
and like shows. the phone to her of them doing
La Cucaracha. She has a flash drive with blackmail
on everybody, and this is how she's gained control.
We just learned about this flash drive. I don't
think she understands how a flash drive works.
Do people know how flash drives work by 2007?
Not because of that, but because he has a phone,
she has a flash drive. Oh, no. She wants to get
the video on the flash drive. How? She's going
to upload it. Do you need a computer? Yeah. Do
you need a computer? A cable? It's also in the
middle of a pool. This is a bad idea because
that phone's not waterproof. I don't know how
this works. I don't at all. Game Boy Cable is
going to be in play here. Oh yeah, like the old
multiplayer cable, bro. How old is Yasmin's brother?
We don't know. He's not in high school. Ew! And
she's flirting with him? No, she's using him.
I know she's using him, but she's still flirting
with like a... I mean... I guess. I don't know.
Yeah, if this was on the flash drive, she'd be
busted. She would be one of the people in that
episode of Black Mirror Shut Up and Dance. Where
it's like, you have to do horrible things and
we find out what the dude actually did. Dude,
that was a gut punch of an episode. Well, now
we flash forward. So head bitch wants to throw
herself another super sweet 16 to get on MTV.
She's 17. Well, no, she is 16. But like she had
a party like a month ago. And so she wants another
one to be like, all right, I'm still the popular
bitch. The line can't go to the party. I have
nothing to wear occurs. And we go shopping for
like the fourth time in this movie. And it makes
me wonder. I know nothing about Bratz. do they
exist only to force little girls to believe that
they need to buy everything or go to the mall
or whatever? They're very, they're like, so don't
quote me anybody on this because I don't know
the actual history of why brats were a thing,
but like the early aughts, mid aughts, Barbie
came out with a line called the my scene line.
And it was like aimed at go getting early 2000,
mid 2000, like teens, young women, And they were
very like fashionable. And I think Bratz was
like, oh, okay, we see what you're doing there.
We're going to do the same thing, but we're going
to do more like street, street wear, street fashion,
high street fashion. So like they were definitely
a fashion forward doll. So clothing was a big
deal. Okay. Well, yeah, they bring it up a lot.
So I figured that's what it was. It's a girl
movie. Of course they're going to go shopping.
I don't remember exactly what happens in this,
but we learned that the deaf kid's name is Dylan.
And the only note I have is Yasmin's kind of
a dick to Dylan. So I don't know what she did.
And this is so at the Sweet 16 party, we learn
why she can no longer sing in front of people,
why she gets stage fright. She can't sing in
front of people because in kindergarten, she
threw up while singing. In kindergarten? In kindergarten.
She just let that go. Those are formative years,
though, man. I don't know. Yeah, they are. So
in fifth grade, I was in church choir, and I
locked my knees and passed out in front of people.
Wow. This was still in choir all of junior high
and all of high school and two years of college.
Good for you, man. Axl Rose? Wait. Oh, we're
talking about you. Yes. You. You, Mike. Well,
congratulations for coming over, for hurdling
your trauma. I'm just saying, I don't think that
should have been that formative at kindergarten.
Oh, true enough. I don't know, man. Throwing
up, that sounds like a lot for this young woman
right there. That's no good. Do we see the vomit?
Like, again. No, we do not see anything. It's
a told story. It is not a flashback story. It
is a told story. So they're telling, not showing.
Great. That's a hallmark of a great film. Yes.
You have a screen in front of you. Why would
you want to see that? yeah well i mean people
like to watch people throw up like isn't that
like how the jackass got famous or something
that's a whole youtube genre now absolutely i
don't want to watch people throw up i like people
getting hurt like that's my favorite part of
jackass i can't wait for Jackass 4, by the way.
That will be a future movie on this podcast.
That reminds me, if you like Jackass, I should
forward you a really great article about Johnny
Knoxville and him looking back on his career.
Jackass 3, which is a midnight showing, so I
am all on board for this. Yeah, it's happening.
Well, that was perfect for us, Mike. That was
college for us. Yeah. Right in our wheelhouse.
um okay so the super sweet 16 party we learned
that chloe's mom is a caterer she's not feeling
well and so the girls of course offer to help
and then of course the people can't uh make it
to the catering event so the girls again help
meredith's just being a because she wants to
be a so she makes them wear clown outfits Fast
forward 30 seconds later and they have made it
their own and it's fashion clown forward. And
they're like having a great time and blah, blah,
blah. And my question for this whole movie comes
to one point. There's a lot that I cared about
in this movie. One of the things I cared about
was does John Voight remember any of his lines?
Why do you say that? Because his character, every
single thing is. Why are you being mean to these
girls, sweetie? Shouldn't they be your friends?
He's literally saying, he literally says, um,
um, like before each line or at least one of
them. Maybe he wanted to try his hand at being
Christopher Walken. He's not Christopher Walken.
He's terrible. Yeah, I was just going to say
that is something that Spike Lee had done and
she's got to have it as Mars Blackman. And the
reason why his character stutters in it is because
he was trying to remember his lines as he was
speaking. So he would repeat the first word of
the line over and over again. That became a quirk,
but it was actually him trying to remember his
lines. Jon Voight, who's an Oscar winning actor,
I believe, or at least nominated. Definitely
nominated, but winning? I don't know. Definitely
cash that check, homie. I don't know. He won
for best in a leading role. Okay, great for him.
But anyway, that is insane to me that that is
the case. Yes, it is really bad. I mean, like,
it's an obvious cash grab situation. He did not
try at all. Also, one of my favorite stories
of forgetting the line is still about Zoolander,
where, do you know the why male models thing?
yeah so do you know the story behind it though
no not the story no oh so like he says so he
says the line but why male models right like
they go through the whole thing and blah blah
blah and whatever he forgot the line and just
went back like they would they would go back
to the beginning or try again and so he goes
but why male models and they left it in and they
left it in because it was better for the character
It was so funny. It's just a great laugh, you
know? Yeah. Oh, I love that movie. Can we talk
about that movie? Anyway, keep going. No, we
can't. We already did. We already talked about
Zoolander 2. Oh, my God. You're right. All right.
So she has a circus -themed birthday. She ends
up getting knocked into the pool because of the
girl's fault. This is Meredith. This is the head
bitch. Yes, yes. Head bitch gets knocked into
the pool, and she says the line. That is the
ultimate roll credits. She goes, you, you, Bratz!
Oh, hey, hey, roll credits! Roll credits! Put
that up there with Christopher Walken in Country
Bears. It's not over yet, Bears! Yeah, so you,
you, Bratz. And then, so basically we flash forward
to... You said flash forward a lot. yes oh they
don't care to explain anything they're done with
this scene so they just moved to the next scene
the next scene they've realized um they need
to compete in the talent show because chloe is
desperate she lives with a single mother and
she's not going to be able to go to college so
they need to win a talent show because the winners
get a scholarship and they're going to give it
to chloe and so they decide that they're going
to form a band and they're going to force Yasmin
to sing because she has the best voice. Supposedly.
And what do you think the band name is? Bratz
with a Z. Bratz with a Z. Yeah. They're trying
to find a name for their band and Chloe walks
up while they're discussing and goes, what's
up Bratz? Bratz. Oh, Bratz. Oh my God. Meredith's
head bitch is blackmailing Chloe because when
her mom worked for her, things disappeared. And
she's telling this to Yasmin. So Yasmin basically
pulls out of the talent show. There's another
MySpace reference. I don't remember what it is,
but I just wanted to make sure that we know there's
two of them. I wonder if Tom had a guest spot
in this. Oh, I know. What happened to Tom? Where's
my boy? I also wanted to be known, this movie
could have ended four times already. It could
have been four points. The Return of the King.
Return of Kings. Return of Kings. The Return
of King. Yes. That's the Tommy Wiseau version
of Return of the King. That would be hilarious.
The fellowship's all Tommy. Oh my god. And you
have my axe! And my bow! I can't carry the ring,
but I can carry you, Mar. That's it. We need
to make this happen. I would give up my life
savings to film this movie. Oh, my God. He shall
not pass. He wouldn't know how to do. I feel
like when it came to Gollum or Smeagol, it was
just... Oh, my God. Don't tell him you're recording
and just have him exist in the universe and that's
Gollum. He's still going to wear all the chains
and whatnot because chains are rings, man. My
God. Yeah, okay. We got our next project. Tommy
Wiseau, $500 ,000 to make his Lord of the Rings
trilogy. Perfect. Let's do it. Lord of the Wiseaus.
Yes. We've got Vampire Boys 3 and Lord of the
Wiseaus. I would move ahead the Wiseaus idea
ahead of Vampire Boys 3. I would move too. I
feel like he's already thinking about it. Yeah.
Okay, well. We have another logo for the shop
that's coming eventually. All these fake movies
we're making. Dude, this one I want to be real.
I'm getting Tommy on the phone right now. If
we have his agent, or he's probably his own agent,
let's be real. Let's go ahead and get this thing
made. I think we can find Tommy Wiseau's number
somewhere in the universe and get him on the
phone. Guys, I don't see why we just don't do
our own fan film of all of us being Tanya Wiseau
and doing it. Easy, because none of us can do
as good an accent as Andre, and then we all look
bad. Why don't we just have Andre do it all?
Andre do it all. This is how we do it. We'll
just do pivotal scenes. Contact your agent, Andre.
We'll hammer out the details. Put a lot of onus
on me to carry this performance, man. Holy moly.
Just think about it this way. You'll deliver
Nine, at least nine, really great performances.
That's just the core fellowship. Then we got
to include Elrond, Galadriel, Sauron, Saruman.
You got to be the swange wheel so you can say
it was real. So we're going to do some Hobbit
stuff. It's going to be great. It's going to
be great. Okay, yeah, finish this Bradstock.
Let's get back to Brad. Let's finish this movie.
How did we get so off the rails? So basically,
Yasmin's out because she feels like they would
blackmail, they would get blackmailed and they'd
all be embarrassed. Scene later, hey, who cares
if she's blackmailing us? We've got a talent
show to win. She recovered quickly. Right on.
They made a huge deal. I also want to... I wanted
to point out as well, every time head bitch opens
the flash drive and made a computer beep, like
a boop. Wait, she did that herself? No. Oh, okay.
Like a sound happened every time she opened the
flash drive. So they don't know how flash drives
work. Oh, gotcha. Well, you have to know that
the technology is being used. I mean, how else
could you? I don't know. You got it in the right
way. Well, so basically she opens the flash drive,
puts it out on the screen and all their stuff
gets blackmailed out there and blah, blah, blah.
And they defend themselves in the middle of the
talent show. Just like, well, I did this because
this and this. And like, my mom didn't steal
from you, you bitch. You did. And blah, blah,
blah. And whatever. And like, it's just everything's
OK. The divorced parents get back together during
the middle of this jaunty tune that happens,
which is called Bratitude. Is the name of the
song? Was it catchy? No. And it was definitely
lip -synced. Oh, don't do that. Definitely lip
-synced. Don't do that. Yeah, the divorced parents
somehow get together. They made a huge deal of
Deaf Dylan being able to DJ, but there definitely
wasn't a single part of the song that was DJed.
Okay. None of it. Oh. So, like, it was just not
a big deal. It just dropped. Obviously... DJ
Dylan slash DJ Def Dylan loved Yasmin. So they
get together. Chloe and Cameron, Cameron being
the boyfriend of head bitch, they get together.
Were they like setting that up that they were
like into each other? Yes, they were setting
each other. They were setting it up the whole
time. But what they were not setting up was Jade
gets together with her head science partner because
they're nerds and cute. And then Sasha's just
happy because her parents got together again.
She doesn't get a boyfriend. She does not get
a boyfriend. Also, I forgot to bring this up.
The head cheerleader of Sasha's cheer squad wears
a tiara the entire movie. A tiara? A tiara. I
wanted to call him the dude who wore cat ears
every day just because he could. So why not?
I have three more notes for this. Keep going.
How much did Jon Voight get paid for this? Because
it must have been a lot because he had to say
yes because he did not have a good time the entire
time. He didn't look like he was having a fun
time? He was not having fun. Maybe he did the
movie for the grandkids. Maybe, but I doubt it.
That's what I'm thinking, too. I don't know.
What else do I got? So, oh, yes. So the deciding
vote, the talent show winner gets, I can't remember
what the first thing was, but the second thing
was the scholarship, and that was the important
thing. They tie. What? Head bitch gets whatever
the first prize was that I can't remember and
the brats get the scholarship so Chloe can go
to college and everything's okay. Right? That's
what we wanted. College isn't going to be important
for these girls because it just so happens the
president of MTV was at this high school talent
show and wants to offer them a contract. bear
me that's awful oh they're gonna be on uh brett
what was not flavor of love the other one um
flavor of love no they're getting their contract
as a band wait mtv just banned oh yeah no they
did making yeah making the band with p diddy
Absolutely. Which for me was iconic, like made
into an icon because of Dave Chappelle. I know
it's hard to believe, Jill, but MTV stands for
music television. They do have recording artists.
They used to. They used to. 2007 at least. RIP
to those days. TRL, what's up? Yeah, right. So
yeah, they got a recording contract so the Bratz
can now be an album somewhere somehow and definitely
lip synced. They really are like cheetah girls.
Yeah. Mike, you're so in on this movie. I'm so
happy for you. I bet you're going to name your
future daughter Yasmin or another one. Another
one. Of all of them, I would say the most...
Give her four first names. Two first names, two
middle names. The most realistic of them all
is probably Jade. That would probably be If I
were to name my daughter after any of them, which
is still a zero chance possibility, it would
probably be Jade. Okay. But I also want to say
how this is my third and final note. This entire
movie was about fashion. They never look good.
Wow. They never look fashionable. Well, okay,
keep in mind that this is 2007, right? I mean,
fashion surely is way different now than it was
back then, right? For high school girls, no.
Yes. I mean, was anybody wearing like a skinny
scarf and too many belts? There was maybe too
many belts. I don't remember that exactly. Yeah,
none of them looked fashionable in my idea of
fashion. And I'm not a high fashion person, as
I say, sitting in gym shorts and a T -shirt.
Like, it's not me sitting here going, oh, yeah.
I am definitely the most fashionable person.
Would you say this movie is trying to lean into
the mean girls? Yes, 100%. It started with the
fact that there's clicks for everything. We had
the plastics. The head bitch was the leader of
the plastics. It's trying to be mean girls. It
fails miserably. I'm going to show you guys a
picture on my phone here. While on the camera.
And you tell me, is this hot fashion? If you
can see. I mean, I like the skirt and belt look
on the one on the far right. Oh, that's totally
of the era. Yeah. It is of the era. I'm looking
at like the, I guess the movie, the cover that
would be on the VHS. So that's Jade. That was
the fashionable one. You know, she's doing her
job. You know, I'm seeing some capri pants. What
I also didn't get is, like, they were dressing
for, like, three different temperatures. Chloe
was always wearing long sleeves and jeans. The
rest of them were wearing, like, some kind of
shorts. And Yasmin always had a jacket. Maybe
Yasmin runs cold, you know? We don't know. I
guess. I mean, all that air conditioning. It's
California, probably. Oh, yeah. Oh, totally.
But a lot of AC. They have AC in California.
I mean, it's all sun all the time. We sure do.
Every shot is just bright sunshine, like, trying
to make you feel good and everything like that.
Don't you know it doesn't rate in California
either? Mm -hmm. Oh, we need the rain. That's
the unfortunate part. We desperately need it.
Yep. All right, so I guess I'll give it a final
rating. I'm going to probably, yeah, give it
a 0 .25 out of 5. 0 .25? Yes. music teacher inspirational
speeches not montages i feel like there was a
lot of montages there was a lot of montages you
know what sure 0 .25 montages out of five it
was yeah no no they made a movie but i can't
give it the mitchell zero because they made it
half -assed movie wow john voight yep i i think
that alone like the casting department deserves
some kind of award board for somehow wrangling
him into this. That's no small feat. They must
have had some blackmail on this dude. They had
a flash drive. They had a flash drive. They had
a flash drive and there was some bad stuff on
there. So they're like, hey, we're going to release
this unless you do our shitty movie. And sure
enough, that's exactly what they did. It's a
flash drive connected to a phone. I just did
a fellowship of ring of poster art for us. If
we do want to go ahead and market this movie.
I love the Fellowship of Ring. Oh, wow. That's
very good. We're going to need a lot of different
Tommy Wiseaus. We need it. I need this in my
life. Yes. All right. We'll make that a thing.
We're going to take a quick break. We're going
to give a shout out to our friend in the hashtag,
the Illumapotty, that got the clues right for
watching the Bratz movie. I posted three clues.
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segment, Hashtag Cash or Trash. Mitchell, you're
the one that's starting us off, and it seems
like you're going somewhere, so hopefully you
can still talk while going somewhere. Yeah, because
I'm picking this up because this isn't your typical
Cash or Trash, which we typically have done for
streaming shows or movies. And we just give a
yes or no. This one is actually a little book
of mine that I want to give a Cash or Trash to.
And it's because it is based on a movie. It is
written by, what's his name, Quentin Tarantino.
anyway all right right very niche guy very niche
guy very in his own element and i don't know
if any of you guys have heard of him but he did
make a little movie that i absolutely adored
two years ago called once upon a time in hollywood
and most recently a couple weeks ago he released
a paperback novel of the movie and there is a
lot more to explore in this universe a lot of
people thought that how the movie played out
they're like wow this would have been a great
mini series or a great tv show because of how
long you spend time with the characters and how
disinterested with plot that the movie seems
to be and this is exactly what those people ordered
i think because it explores the characters a
lot more you have more of a backstory of how
they got there and also this uh the narrator
for this offers some insight to where these characters
end up going after the events of the movie, which
is really cool. It's very atmospheric. So if
you dug the vibes of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,
I think this is a book for you. It's a very breezy
read. I'm about, you know, it's a 400 page book.
I'm at page 241. I'm a slow reader, but this
was done in like three sittings. So for me, it's
just like very easy to read. You already know
the characters going into it. And it's just living
inside of Tarantino's head for just a few more
hours. And it's been great so far. So I ask for
this. I like that the cover looks like a book
that would have been written in the 60s, early
70s. Yeah, so that was his pitch to the publishing
company was that he didn't want a hardback, and
they are going to release one later, but he wanted
the initial print to be a paperback novelization
of the movie because that's what he grew up reading.
Those were the first books that he read were
novelizations of whatever movies he saw in the
70s. And that used to be a really big thing,
even for us as kids. Novelizations, yes. I read
The Lost World, man. Oh, there you go. There
you go. The actual Lost World or the novelization
of the movie? No, the actual Lost World before,
I guess. Oh, well, all right. So not novelization,
I guess, but no, he did. Hmm. Now I may be backing
up. I thought he did something before and then
he did one based on the story to include more
like a novelization of the movie. Are you talking
Michael Crichton? Like when he, okay. Maybe,
maybe I'm wrong. Okay. Well, I used to read novelizations
all the time, so. There we go. This is wonderful.
And if you're really into character and how that
is written, there is just lovely chapters dedicated
to the main stars. You're first introduced to
Sharon Tate, not with her landing in LAX after
filming a movie. It's with her actually hitchhiking
from Texas to get to Hollywood back when she
was just starting as an actor. So really cool
stuff in here. Nice. Mitchell, I just learned
you can read. I know. It's amazing, right? Dude,
congrats. I just learned. Jill, what do you got
for Cash or Trash? I mean, it's a little outdated
now, and I talked about it on Twitter, but Clarkson's
Farm, Jeremy Clarkson's Amazon Prime show, where
he already owned the farm, but he owns a massive
-ass farm in rural england and the whole crux
of the show is um his original farmer who took
care of the land has retired so he's like why
not i'll do it and what was really interesting
is that it was filmed mostly in 2019 into 2020
so the first like five four or five episodes
things are going as normal but of course it's
not normal because jeremy clarkson's involved
and then there's a whole episode where the pandemic
sweeps through but because they're considered
an essential um uh industry he can keep they
they're allowed to keep going but you know the
lockdowns are going through and it was just really
interesting watching this play out not in real
time but there's no artificiality behind it they
are genuinely reacting to the uncertainty of
the pandemic when um when things were first coming
out um if you like jeremy clarkson if you're
a fan of top gear from the the hammond may and
clarkson edition of that or the grand tour you're
going to really enjoy this um so i'm going to
say cash nice All right. I am also really, really
stretching the limits of definition of cash or
trash here. But last week I watched a whole lot
of speed runs on Summer Games Done Quick 2021
on Twitch. And so to catch you guys up, Games
Done Quick is a Twitch channel. They run events
every – basically every six months, right? And
it's like the Olympics of speed running basically.
But the catch is that all of – the pros that
basically it's all for charity so i believe this
let me look at the numbers um so basically it's
a week long where uh streamers from various gaming
communities come and stream a certain category
for their specified video game and it's so it's
it's one week straight of just going from game
to game to game um and they'll have incentives
where you can donate to where um like for example
i think for the super mario 60 or for the for
the legend of zelda over time speed run you could
donate to pick a certain file name or pick a
certain character with this run and they raised
$2 .9 million for Doctors Without Borders. Oh,
fantastic. Yeah, it was a really, really fun
watch. This Twitch channel, Games Done Quick,
it's still active right now. They just stream
one -off games and highlighting various members
of the community. Very positive, very welcoming
community. Speedrunning in and of itself is this
whole entire subculture that I just love looking
into from the outside looking in. I play lots
of games. I play them way too casually to ever
get that skill level, but there's just something
to be said of watching a man play super mario
64 getting 70 stars to beat the game all while
wearing a blindfold yeah i was insane yeah and
there was just so many hype moments um just yeah
it's a really well done production this has been
going on for about i think almost 10 years now
and i started this really small thing and now
they've kind of really like They've kind of have
a really lean production going where they have
really solid commentators to explain to everybody
like how exactly tricks are like when people
are basically breaking a game in half. They do
a really good job of explaining. Here's how insane
this trick is. Here's how much effort goes into
this. And here's why this is really, really cool.
So it's so easy to just jump into the narrative
and kind of really root for the streamers to
get. get to the end of the game as quickly as
possible um i highly recommend it all the all
the vods are on youtube but uh the next event
would be all the way from in january 2022 but
really really fun watch and it's for a great
cause and yeah just really thankful for games
done quick fantastic so i take that as a cash
that is a definite cash it's a donation i guess
really right yeah there you go um Well, as I
said earlier in this episode, I watched Fear
Street 1994 part one yesterday. Yesterday I was
working from home, so I actually got two movies
in. There's a brand new movie that just came
out with Karen Gillan called Gunpowder Milkshake.
Oh, yeah. That's beautiful. It is. I mean, it
is a I think in doing a disservice by calling
it the female John Wick. but you can tell how
they take stuff from that. It is very well shot.
There's a lot of cool like, um, scenery that,
and then like, it's, it's very choreographed.
The choreo choreography of the fights are very
well done. So I think it's a, it's an insult
to call it the female John wick because it's
own thing. It's very well done. Um, interesting
story. Um, I mean, you, you kind of know where
it's going. It's not unpredictable. But overall,
it was really a lot of fun. If you want a good
action movie to kill a couple hours, you turn
your brain off. It is just a lot of fun. Karen
Gillan's excellent. The cast is phenomenal. Yeah,
it's very well done. So I will say that Gunpowder
Milkshake is cash. Nice. Also, in the first five
minutes, four milkshakes were drink. Wow. That's
a lot of milkshakes. That's a lot of milkshakes.
If you're wondering where the milkshake comes
in, that's where it is. And then obviously lots
of gunpowder. Yes. That'll do it then, I guess,
for episode 35 of Game for a Movie, guys. 35.
I know. When is this podcast going to hit its
midlife crisis? I feel like it's heading there.
I mean, we did just make Mike watch a movie for...
Oh, I've got one that I'm going to make somebody
watch eventually because a certain movie was
on television earlier today that Claire turned
on that I forgot existed because I tried to block
it out of my head. And I think I want either
Mitchell or Andre to watch it because it kills
a certain actor. It's not Indiana Jones. It is
not Indiana Jones. No, it is not. It is not Crystal
Skull. I know that one exists, even though I
pretend it doesn't. Oh, it's Avatar then. The
Avatar? We still do want to make Andre watch
Avatar. I want to watch that with y 'all and
drink things. Episode 45. 10 episodes from now,
we will all do it together. It doesn't actually
have to be 10 episodes from now. We've been sticking
to the 15s. If we want to do it, we can do it
whenever. Thank you guys for stopping by. Thank
you, Jill, for our first Game for a Movie trailer.
If you haven't checked that out, it is on our
YouTube channel, which is At Game for a Movie.
It is on anywhere you get podcasts for the audio
version. The video version, she watched the trailer
along, so you can also watch the trailer while
she does. The audio version, I got rid of the
watch just because it doesn't do much if you
can't watch the trailer. But, yeah, we're going
to be doing more like that where a single host
takes over and talks about a trailer that they
either care about, don't care about. I'm going
to do one shortly about a certain kids movie.
That is your preview for that. But, yeah, thank
you very much, Joe, for that. If you want to
reach us, Game for a Movie on Facebook, Game
for a Movie P1 on Twitter, Game for a Movie podcast
on Instagram, I'm pretty sure. It may just be
Game for a Movie. I don't remember off the top
of my head. That's it. I've been your host, Mike
Butank. I've been joined by, in the same order,
Mitchell, Gil, Andre. Thank you guys very much
for listening. We'll see you next time on Game
for a Movie, where we ask, are you game for a
movie? Yeah. Yeah, I think I'm game. Yeah. Would
you speed run it, Andre? Oh, man, yeah. Let's
do Game for a Movie, any percent, blindfolded,
let's go. Blindfolded. You don't have to be.
seeing to be able to do this part i feel like
you get to the ball gag though guys i had a blindfold
this whole movie but i gotta say that the visual
effects were not up to par