You know what that sound means? It is another
episode of Game for a Movie. It's been a while,
friends. It has been. It's been too long. Yes,
it has. It was just one of those things where
everybody had something come up. It's true. Mitchell
moved. You two were on vacation. I had work shit.
Literally everything just happened to keep us
apart. It's almost like we were allowed to be
outside again, so we kind of had some schedule
conflicts. That's true. Kind of interesting what
happens when your social calendar reemerges.
Yeah, right. It is episode 33. I am your host,
Mike Butek. I am joined by... Andre. And Jill.
We went in an opposite order. We did, but it
was so smooth because we're physically together
and you could just point it out. Exactly, yes.
Jill is going to kick us off with movies because
we're going to go around this way like we normally
do around. I was thinking of Triangle from last
night when we were playing Just One. Oh, yeah.
But first, we've got to talk about what we're
drinking. Jill, it looks like you have some fresh
tap water. Clear liquid. Yes. It's called tap
water. It came from technically our fridge. It
also has this really cool nifty invention in
it called ice. It's very cool. It keeps it nice
and chill. So I was having a conversation with
my landlord today, and he does not get ice and
water. Like, he does not get it. Maybe he has
a sensitivity to cold, because I do, but not
from cold water. Like he just never has ice in
his water. He always takes it straight. Does
he like ice cream? Yeah. What about soda? Can
you only drink soda straight out of the can?
I don't know about soda. We didn't get to that.
The ice thing for water is he doesn't understand
melting ice giving you more water. He would just
rather have fresh water. Okay, but that's not
why I'm putting ice in my water. I understood.
It was a long conversation, but it was a good
conversation. I didn't realize that this was
a political stance. You know, I like your landlord.
He's a good dude. I always learn fun things about
him. He's a good dude. Not knowing what a thirst
trap was. Not having Mitchell here today, because
we do not have Mitchell here today. I invited
him to come along. Oh, that would be fun. He
does not watch movies like we do. Gotcha. Okay,
I thought you were just going to stop at he doesn't
watch movies. Oh, no. He does not watch movies
like we do. He has a hard time watching movies
because he doesn't watch TV, really. Sure. He's
out doing stuff, which is great, you know? his
last movie he saw was joker and he didn't watch
the end of it so oh nice you know that um of
all the movies to throw out yeah i could see
somebody just walking away from joker he enjoyed
it that's the thing he enjoyed it said like three
out of five but it was just he he just didn't
want to sit down anymore you know something like
that you know it's a long it's long and it feels
long yes yes um what i am drinking is called
Days. It is from Treehouse Brewing in Massachusetts.
Do not go on Sundays if you would like to sit
there. Well, you know, as of today, late May,
early June 2021, don't go on a Sunday. Yes. No,
I don't think they pour on Sundays. Ever? I don't
think so. I don't know what their blue laws are
or anything like that. That's in the Bible, man.
God said no drafts on Sundays. Not my God. You're
God. Oh, yeah. My God's blood is wine. But yes,
I have some treehouse here because I drove an
hour to get it and they asked me my order number.
And then I realized they don't pour on Sundays.
So I don't know if that is a real thing or not,
but it seemed like it was established they don't
pour on Sundays. But yeah. Andre, what are you
drinking? I think I'm drinking a Double Cyclops
Dippa from Labyrinth. I think Labyrinth's made
multiple appearances on this podcast at this
point. Labyrinth might as well sponsor us. I
know, right? Sponsor us, Labyrinth. Because this
beer is really good. And I love drinking your
beers. And I will continue to drink them and
hawk them on this podcast. I will continue to
drink Labyrinth beer. Especially if it's not
too far or anything like that. You don't have
to go an hour for not pouring on Sundays. Right,
exactly. You don't lose two hours of your life.
Right. So, well, we've got a lot of movies to
talk about, including Andre, You Lost. Yep. Which,
if you were guessing along, was kind of fun.
We were putting out clues along the way. I know.
You were like, I have a hint tweet ready to go.
And I was like, oh, this is going to be good.
And then, yeah, I don't know. It was pretty clever.
Pretty clever. That was a lot of fun. Because
I asked Andre if I should tweet this. Yeah. Like,
getting ready for the bad movie. And then I was
going to read it by you. Yeah. And he said not
to do it. And I'm like. I'm happy we didn't.
Yeah, it's kind of fun. I like this guessing
game thing. Obviously, some of the movies we've
watched will not have a guessing game because...
How would you do Happy Time Murders? Yeah, right.
Happy Time Murders, I did one, actually. You
did? And people got it. Yeah. What was it? I
think it was Melissa McCarthy, just in a different
movie. Right. You know, because I'm trying to
use the actors that are in the movie in different
ways. So like in this one, it has Howard Stark
and Paula Patton, you know. Right. So I use different
movies for them. And I know his name's not Howard
Stark. Dominic Cooper. Dominic Cooper, that's
it. Which, you know, I have to say, I love you,
Dominic. You should just live in the Mamma Mia
universe. Just go out there, sing and dance with
Meryl Streep. You look really happy. You're a
much better actor when you're in the island of
Greece. I mean, I was happy when he was Howard
Stark. He was fine for me. Yeah, but there was
no singing and dancing. There was no singing
and dancing. I'm a sucker for a musical. We know.
It's a good segue for me, at least. It is a good
segue for you. So you're kicking us off with
the first movie. I am. And what are you going
to talk about? I'm going to talk about one of
my favorite guilty pleasure films, which is Richard
Lester's Help! with an exclamation point from
1965. I've got something for you before, just
a question before we start. Is it a bad movie?
No. Do you believe in guilty pleasures? It sounds
like it because you said guilty pleasure. So,
okay. So, let me walk that back on guilty pleasures.
There are movies that I genuinely, that I love,
that I know if I'm going to invite to second
or third, fourth, fifth, whoever. Right. They're
probably going to be not as enthusiastic for
it. Okay. So, they're not guilty for me. Like,
I'm trying to think of a movie that nobody likes.
And I can't think of anything. I'm going to use
my friend's... I'm going to use my friend. Yeah.
She really likes Leap Year. Okay. What about
Willow? I feel like Willow's a good pick. No,
I mean, I'm not the generation of Willow, but
if you were a kid in the 80s, apparently Willow
was the shit. Okay. No disrespect to Willow,
I guess. I mean, like, mine's Mortal Kombat Annihilation.
You should. No one loves it, but I do. So my
friend really likes Leap Year. Yeah. And that,
to me, and to the larger world, is not... particularly
fun romantic comedy romp okay but for her it
is and it's not something she feels the need
to go out of the way of telling people so that
that to me is a guilty pleasure okay versus So
you're just airing out her dirty laundry over
the air. I didn't drop names. I just can't think
of a movie right now. It's you. You love Leap
Year. We know it. Okay. The Hobbit trilogy. Okay.
Like I'm very upfront that I actually genuinely
love those movies. Okay. With the nice little
asterisk of, well, I've watched the making ofs
of them so many times that like you see the love
on the screen. All that CGI love. CGI love. I
will say The Hobbit significantly better than
the film I will talk about. Oh, God. It's related.
All three of them way better. All I'll just say
is no, I don't believe in guilty pleasures, but
there are things that I like that do skew towards
children because I do like cartoons where I'm
probably not going to bring that up in a room
of cinemaphiles or even parents, like parents,
my friend's parents or that because they're just
not going to get it. They're going to think that's
weird. Yes. from My Little Pony. Right. Yeah,
that's pretty normal, but some people will think
that's really immature or child or whatever or
there's something wrong with me. And yours is
not like a brony My Little Pony. No, I don't
have a pony pillow. Yeah, right. No, no, I just
want that to be clear to everybody that's listening.
Yes, I'm not a Pegasister. Right. Yes. Appropriately.
I didn't even know. Oh yeah, that's what they're
called. Even though my favorite pony, if I have
to tell you, I'm not ashamed, is Pinkie Pie.
I can't believe you've co -opted this podcast
until I'm my little pony. I cannot believe this
happened. One day I'm going to make you watch
the movie that came out not too long ago. We
got our next bad movie. I don't think it actually
counts as a bad movie. Ah, dang. To that point,
I guess I would agree with you. I don't really
believe in guilty pleasures anymore at this point,
but... I know when to bring up, I know which
social circles I'm going to bring up My Hero
Academia with versus, you know. Or Broly. Or
Broly. Broly. Broly, baby. No, I think Audrey
hits the nail on the head right there. There
are some films that I'll always talk about and
then there are others in different social situations
where I'm like, I don't think they're going to
get it. Fair. I just, I found this question lately
and it's been interesting because I don't truly
believe in guilty pleasures anymore. Sure. I
call things guilty pleasures, but for the same
part, Like what you like. Yeah, absolutely. What
do we care? I'll walk back my words and say this
is a comfort movie for me. Yeah, fair, fair.
Which, as I said, I know we went off a little
bit, Richard Lesser's 1965, Help, the second
of four Beatles films. There's four of them?
There were supposed to be four. There were supposed
to be four. There's really like 3 .5. Help, Yellow
Submarine. You're missing the big one. Hard Day's
Night? Yeah. And then there's one more. One more?
One more. Magical Mystery Tour. Oh, Magical Mystery
Tour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So for those of you who
don't know, at the height of Beatle fame, they
went into contracts to make four films over the
course of a certain amount of years. The first
was A Hard Day's Night, which is also directed
by Richard Lesser. And that's just a really fantastic
movie. It's kind of like one of the first day
in the life of the artist. nice type film or
documentary thing like that and it's fun and
you actually do see a lot of the wackiness of
the beatles peeking through in that film okay
and then in 1865 we get help which is also the
name of an album same name um and that's like
they turned that wackiness from like a nice five
to six up to like 11 okay yeah um and then later
contracts fell uh things arose people drifted
away yeah luster did not come back and the beatles
i think really spearheaded the project for magical
mystery tour right and that's where the wackiness
goes from being like a fun 11 to WTF 22. Yeah,
that was, uh, yeah. The needle went too far in
that direction. Fair. And then the Beatles broke
up, but they still technically had another film.
Um, and I do want to make it clear. I'm not like
a Beatles expert, so I'm kind of definitely simplifying
things. Um, they broke up or they were not due.
They were on the outs. They still needed a fourth
film. So yellow submarine is primarily made of
cutting room floor Beatles songs. Oh, okay. I
did not know that. A lot of B -sides and things
like that. I knew they made it more animated
and stuff like that. Oh, it's all animated. Yeah,
I thought that was because they couldn't be in
the same room with some of them. So the Beatles
don't even voice themselves. The Beatles only
appear as audio recording, I believe, at the
end when they do All You Need Is Love. Okay,
interesting. So there is no action. There is
no live Beatles. So don't watch Yellow Submarine.
I was about to ask. I wasn't going to blow up
your spot, but you definitely typed in Yellow
Mustard into your Google search bar. I was like,
was there like a Heinz promo? It was pretty cool,
I guess. So I am going to correct myself. We
all live in Yellow Deja Mustard. So it came out
in 1968. So the Beatles were still together.
I think it probably was starting to be... Yeah.
Okay, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. Beatles history
is not our forte. Is our forte. Yeah. If you
want a good one for that, check out Infectious
Groove. I'm guessing they are one of them. They
spin records, stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. Love
to give them some love. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Did not
plan to be a Beatles historian this afternoon.
So what is help? Help is... A great musical comedy
spy satire. Okay. They are... There's Sophie.
Our cat is here. We have a cat, yes. We have
a fourth member. It's Mitchell. Just make sure
she doesn't get too familiar with the camera.
Yeah, right. So, yeah, it's a spy satire. It
really is kind of parodying the James Bond -esque
spy films of the mid -60s. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah.
So for those of you who have not had the chance
to learn about this film, I'm going to read the
description from IMDb. Oh, I'm excited. Let's
go. So Ringo Starr finds himself the human sacrifice
target of a cult, and his fellow members of the
Beatles must try to protect him from it. Wow.
So that leaves out a bit. So he's the kid from
The Mummy Returns that gets the bracelet on his
arm? He's way more helpful than that kid. Yeah,
well, yeah. That's actually not too far off.
Is Ringo Starr a plot moppet? Yes, no. No. No.
I'm glad that Ringo isn't a plot Muppet. No,
no, no. There is no Muppets in this movie. Thank
God. No Muppets in this movie. What that little
description is not telling you is that it's a
ring that he acquires that won't come off his
finger and because he can't get it off, he's
now the next sacrifice. Yeah, I got one of those.
It's like a marriage. Yeah, right. Love you,
babe. And the whole movie is the Beatles hijinks
trying to avoid the cult who's trying to get
the ring. Then there's a zany scientist who's
also like, I could rule the world with that ring.
So I also want it. So it's Lord of the Rings,
James Bond, Wicker Man? James Bond, Lord of the
Rings, and... just because it's impossible no
you need something like no because like it needs
like there's a world there's a world traveling
component too oh there's a world so indiana jones
then yeah okay except there's no exploring ruins
or temples sure but i'm just you know i got the
montage of the plane yeah going across my thing
with wicker man was just there was a cult yeah
okay i just immediately go to the bees yeah he's
the sacrifice yeah You know, the original of
The Wicker Man is way more serious. Oh, way better.
And better. I mean, it's not insanely serious,
but like... I mean, there's a part in the remake
where Nick Cage is wearing a bear suit and punches
a woman. Yeah. I mean, that is cinema genius
right there. Anyway, we're getting off topic.
Yes, we are. So, Help is also the name of one
of my favorite Beatle albums. So, it has all
the music from that. And it's just zany Beatles
hijinks, like I said. What probably is helping
encourage the laughs in good times with all the
drugs the Beatles are on, but they don't try
to hide that fact. Good for them. They're really
upfront about it. Love that for them. I mean,
yeah, they might as well be. If you ever want
an interesting read, the IMDb trivia page for
this film is all about the different scenes and
things they would have filmed or did film. Stoner
hijinks, craziness, things like that. But it's...
It's stupid, but it's a good type of stupid.
And it's, like, it's got the Beatles, and they're
singing some of my favorite songs. Okay. Throughout
the film, to have the musical components, the
movie just kind of stops and becomes a music
video for two and a half to three minutes. So,
like, take it to ride. is shot in the Alps because
the Beatles wanted to go to the Alps. Just because.
And there is just some gorgeous cinematography
of them standing on a snowy hill playing a piano,
and it's great. I'm getting some, like, Adam
Sandler grown -ups vibes from this, where, like,
he's been on record saying he just wanted to
go on vacation and hang out with his bro. The
whole movie of Blended, he wanted to go to Africa
with his kids. Right, right, right. Yeah, and
so, like, it's just, they made a movie and said...
All right, we're going to Africa. See ya. Yeah.
I mean, that's kind of where this goes. So they
go to the Alps, they go to the Bahamas. Then
there's stuff in London. And it's just fun. And
you get to see all the Beatles' different personalities
shining through. Nice. If you ever watch it,
look closely for George. He's pickpocketing things
throughout the entire film. John is just kind
of being himself. But, you know, it was before
we knew he was an asshole. So it's okay. Paul
is kind of this, like, nobody wants him. It's
kind of sad at one point. And then he and another
character kind of finally start colluding. And
they're like, I trust this woman. She knows what
she's talking about. She can help us. Right.
There's that. And then Ringo is the star. And
probably the best acting Beatle. Ringo is the
star. Ringo star. Basically, I mean. I know that's
not what you meant, but it was just too perfect.
It's the same. So Ringo, I think. was when it
came to be in this movie, they're like, who wants
to be in it? Ringo was the most camera -friendly.
He was okay and comfortable in front of the camera.
And he's running around trying to protect his
finger and his drumming skills. It's really fun.
How long is this movie? I was going to say, it's
an hour and a half long. There are parts of it
that feel really long. But if you just kind of
want... Something fun on in the background. Help.
Nice. Cool. How would you rate it then? I would
give it four out of five fiendish thingies. I
was really hoping you were just going to say
stars. This is the one movie. With two R's. With
two R's. Exactly. I can do that, but no, it's
a fiendish thingy. I like fiendish thingy. Okay.
I guess that brings it to me. You were talking
about animation. Yeah. I'm going to do an animated
movie. Wow. Are we in the upside down? We're
the ones that usually talk about animated movies.
I talk about animated movies. You do too. You're
right. That's true. And there's a reason why
I'm talking about this one. It is Mitchells vs.
the Machines. It is on Netflix. It is produced
by Phil Lord and Chris Miller. If those names
sound familiar, they are behind some of the most,
well, some of the greatest animation lately.
is what I will say. And then some other classic
stories. They were the directors and writers
of Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs. They were
the directors for 21 and 22 Jump Street. Executive
produced Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2.
Writers and directors for The Lego Movie. Yeah.
Executive produced and uncredited for directing
Solo, a Star Wars story. I mean, hey, I liked
it. They had some input. Yeah. Phil Lord wrote
and they produced Spider -Man Into the Spider
-Verse. Hell yeah. Probably the biggest one under
their belt now. Yes. And now they're both writing
and both producers for the untitled Spider -Man
Into the Spider -Verse sequel coming in 2022.
And then they're also producers for Andre's favorite
Batman, which is the Lego Batman. Hell yeah.
Batman, not Batman story. Right. Yes. We need
to clarify. Wait, wait. So favorite Batman? Batman
person? Favorite Batman movie. Cinematic. Will
Arnett's portrayal. Okay, but not your favorite
Bat person. Not my favorite Bat person, but he's
ranked up there. I don't know. I think Will Arnett's
a great Batman, personally. And while doing this
research, I also found out, and it just needs
to be said, they were the writers, directors,
and executive producers for Clone High. Yep.
Which is... crazy to me. I think everyone at
this table knows what it is, but no one at this
table has seen it. Nope. I haven't seen it. I've
been trying to find it. The internet can yell
at us now. I've been trying to find it, but that's
who I really wanted to talk about. Mitchells
vs. Machines, glorious. It is a great story.
Basically, it is Apple. I'm going to try to keep
this as story -free just because... At the top
of it, you recommend this movie. Yes, at the
top of it, I recommend this movie. I think you
two would love it. So that's also why I want
to hold back is because I think you guys would
love it. Appreciate it. Basically, the worst
family left in a robot apocalypse has to defeat
the robots and save the world. And there's a
cool animation style called KDVision. Which,
like, the animation style is what I love about
it. And there's a pug that's amazing as well.
Yeah. Doug the Pug, I think. Doug? Doug? Doug
Sophie the Cat, because here she comes. Here
comes Sophie. I think it's Doug the Pug. I gotta
look again. But basically, it's Danny McBride.
It's Abby Jacobson, Maya Rudolph. Eric Andre.
Olivia Colman. Eric Andre's in this movie? Eric
Andre's in this movie. Hell yeah. Eric Andre
is the Apple, like, guy. Oh. So he's the one
doing the big presentation and everything like
that. Olivia Colman, Fred Armisen, Chrissy Teigen,
Beck Bennett, John Legend, Blake Griffin's in
this. Tony O 'Brien. Did you know it was Blake
Griffin when he showed up? No. I was looking
at the IMDb page as I was watching it and I was
like, wait, what? He's a side character. It's
not like he's got a huge part, but he does well
with it. Honestly, it is great. I highly recommend
it. I give it 4 .5. Loaves of bread. Loaves of
bread. Yes, it'll make sense. Yeah, I feel like
I have to watch it just to understand that rating.
It's been on my watch list. Yes, it has been.
And I just want to say, what a goddamn glow up
for Sony Animation. Sony Pictures Animation.
They went from Emoji Movie to Spider -Verse to
this. Like, come on. One of the best parts of
the Mitchells vs. Machines is a reappearance.
You may have seen it in trailers. I can't remember
if it's in trailers or not. The reappearance
of a toy of our childhood. Oh, okay. Oh, I think
I've seen... I know what you're talking about.
What is it? I don't want to tell you. Do you
want to know? Okay, I guess it's a spoiler. All
right. It's a good one. When it comes out, you're
just like, oh, fuck no. God damn. Yeah, because
it's not only... It's something that you probably
hated in your childhood, even though you probably
had one. It is something that freaks you out.
And I will personally say... Can I guess what
it is? Go ahead. Is it a Furby? Yeah. It is a
Furby. As soon as you said that, I was like,
I had one of those. I hated it. I never owned
one, but my friend got one as a birthday gift
or something. And within days, the shine wore
off and she was convinced it was going to kill
her. So I had mine buried in a closet. and had
the power button off on it oh no and literally
like a month after the power button had been
off the fuck was that i go in and the furby literally
looks at me like with his undead eyes and it
just starts laughing again yes did you like that
noise we got a cat we have a cat she's she's
she's approaching the microphone hey kiki oh
try it I was going to try to get a picture for
the Instagram. I did look at the other, the director,
one of them, for The Mitchells vs. The Machines.
And the first credit that caught my eye is that
they did a number of episodes of Gravity Falls.
Oh, okay, great. Like Rihanna? Yes. Yeah, yes.
That's great. Okay, yeah, sign me up. Yeah, absolutely
signed up. And it also explains a little bit,
like, the style of animation is really cool.
Like, it's out there, it's different, but it's
really cool. Well, right, well, it's kind of
got that sort of, from what I've seen in the
trailers, it's got that pseudo stop motion kind
of vibe that Spider -Verse had in a way, right?
But it's different. Like, it's not the same,
and I like that about it. It's because it's trying
to be different. Cool. It's a different film.
It's a lot of fun. Yeah, creative director. and
I saw that Alex Hirsch, also of Gravity Falls.
Do we know, is this running in theaters at all,
or is it just streaming? I think it just went
straight to Netflix, yeah. And I think, so there
was a thing, it was supposed to go to something
else, maybe like Hulu or something like that.
It wasn't ever supposed to have a theater release.
Maybe I'm wrong about that. I could be very wrong
about that. But it was supposed to go to something
else, and then it switched to Netflix. Gotcha.
And I'm really glad it did. It's been a very
bright spot. in the uh dang it i tried to get
she's just making the laps at this point yeah
right attention here it is yeah it's her her
back um but yeah so it was very good um 4 .5
4 .5 bread all right okay i like those cards
yes and it will make sense i promise It is time.
Speaking of carbs, I need to load up a little
bit. Ready? There you go, buddy. You got a beard
now? Yeah, I got a beard. Cheers. And you're
drinking from the beard glass. I do. I'm using
the beard glass. I need more beer for this movie.
I am really excited for this movie. While you're
giving a pour, I will give a shout out to Booze
and Spirits Podcast. They guest based on the
clues. what the movie is, what the bad movie
is. Oh, they guessed it. They got it. They got
in the third clue. All right. Is that the Paul
Patton one? That was the Paul Patton one. What
was your second clue? Second clue was Dominic
Cooper as Howard Stark. Okay. Yeah. Which I would
say pretty impressive because I think most people
forgot about this movie already. Yes. So the
first clue was wow, the word wow. From Ted. From
Ted. The second clue was Dominic Cooper as Howard
Stark. He's in this movie. The third clue was
Paul Patton from Mission Impossible. And she's
also in this movie. And the final one, because
I put four because I was having too much fun
with it, was from Bright saying, I feel bad for
orc women. Oh, my gosh. You are so welcome. I
flew out Bright if we couldn't find her. Yes,
Bright would have been another good pick. And
I said it may happen in the future. Yes, it might.
I don't want to watch Bright at all. Anyways.
Keep going. Sorry. The film. That I'll be discussing
on this podcast is Warcraft, the 2016 adaptation
of the famed Warcraft video game series. Is that
the same as World of Warcraft? World of Warcraft,
yes, of that fame. Of Warcraft. No, but like
the MMO version. Yes, yes, yes. You mean WoW?
WoW. Like the first clue. Yeah. So I guess at
the top, I need to give my background as to how
much I know about Warcraft lore, okay? So this
movie is an adaptation of Warcraft colon Orcs
and Humans, the very first Warcraft video game.
It came out in 1994. That it's like, it's super
old, right? Almost as old as I am. 1994? Yes.
So you should know. How little story content
they're working off of for this movie, right?
Right. I've played... So the only Warcraft game
I've played... besides Hearthstone, is World
of Warcraft. And that takes place in the timeline.
I didn't realize Hearthstone was part of it,
too. Okay. Alright, I'm learning a lot, too.
Yep, yep, yep. So, obviously, World of Warcraft
was, like, the biggest game in the world, I feel
like, at, like, in the late 2000s, whenever it
came out. So I spent countless hours, like, I
think that's probably one of, like, in my top
five games in terms of playtime. Okay. But I
did not pay attention to the lore at all. It
was just, you know, I was addicted to that gameplay
loop, and I just made a bunch of friends in there,
right? So I know very little about the actual
friends we made along the way exactly yes so
you had me try to if i tried to give you like
a story summary of all the proper characters
in the warcraft universe i couldn't do it yes
it's You know, whatever. I'm familiar with the
world, familiar with the races and locations,
but I don't know shit about the story, honestly.
Because it's one of those things where you just
pop in and out and it's kind of like, alright,
you're going to this dungeon and the big evil
bad guy is monologuing. You're like, okay, I
just need to hit him with my spells. I'm prepared
for this. Give us an attack boost. God damn it,
Leroy. God damn it, Leroy. Right, right, right.
When I think of Warcraft, I think of Leroy Jenkins,
I think of the South Park episode of Warcraft,
and yeah, I just, you know, whatever. Those are
the two that pop in my head. Yeah, I'm just saying,
those are very good examples. All this is to
say is, I'm not a big, I've, I've, I like WoW
a lot. I don't know shit about the story, so
I'm not an uber fan as far as, like, I'm not
super attached to this world in terms of plotting
characters. That being said, definitely open.
There's, like, some very interesting stories
in Warcraft. So I was kind of excited when this
movie was announced. I'm like, oh, okay, cool.
Like, Warcraft has a lot of broad appeal. Maybe
this will be the adaptation of Breakthrough.
And my god, it did not do that, man. It did not.
It did not do that. I was going to say, it did
not succeed in making me want to play WoW. Right.
So that's true. So Jill, you know, my ever stalwart
partner, watched this movie with me. And yeah,
so I guess that is really the litmus test. You
have not played WoW like I have. Not really.
And you're not. at all interested. I think I
love having you guys on the show together because
you always watch when the other one loses. That's
why, like, really, we're both playing whatever
game twice over because if one of us loses, the
other one's watching it. I did not. You're right.
That's true. That's true. I bowed out. And you
don't need to watch it together. I hope you guys
know. That's why I'm giving Jo points. She watched
it with me. I think the fact that we're having
this podcast over a neoprene mat of Middle Earth
shows you that when it comes to fantasy, I'm
pretty particular. It's true. And like, okay.
Anyways, I guess I should talk about what the
actual movie's about, right? So, like I said,
it's adapting Orcs vs. Humans. So, it's the very
first game in the timeline. Basically, humans
live in this fantasy world of Azeroth. The aesthetic
is very... Azeroth, Metreon, Xanthos? Yeah, that
Azeroth, but not that Azeroth. But spelled the
same. Yeah, okay. Yeah, think, like, you know,
like, honestly, very Tolkien -esque humans. Like,
basically, the main capital Stormwind in Might
as well be what's gone to earth. Like, basically.
Okay, yeah. Yes, but just way more exaggerated.
Like, you know. Humans look so cartoonishly.
Like, the armor is, like, huge and spiky. I'm
going to say I'll give props to whoever designed
the armor for the movie. Yeah. Okay. They nailed
that. They nailed the silhouette. All right.
I got to ask. Yes. Is there human women in this,
and do they have human women armor? No. We never
see a human woman warrior. Yes. We see a woman.
We see a coded female, but not a human. Yeah,
yeah. I was wondering if they go to, like, the
extra level of, like, the crafted boob armor.
You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, yeah. Definitely.
Wow was kind of like the template for that kind
of bullshit. Right, exactly. Yeah, definitely.
So I wouldn't have been shocked. When we get
there, I will say that when they did put her
in armor, it was not stupid superhero comic book
armor. Yes, right. Or she has sexy lamp. No,
she's not, sadly. Yeah, whatever. Anyways, humans
doing their own thing, hanging out, and then,
so that's the one faction, and the other faction
are the orcs. So orcs are, you know, they look
like orcs. They're big, green, got two big tusks,
they're muscly. Not all of them are green. Not
all of them are green, some of them are brown,
that's true, and that's like a lore thing, and
I don't know, whatever. Anyways, they come from
another plane of existence, okay? movie opens
with them saying basically their their home world
their home plane area has basically been desolated
they need to find a new place to go and they
are led through there's this giant this giant
dark portal and if you ever played world of warcraft
it's the thing that's on the login screen it's
literally called the dark portal okay yeah and
so one of the orcs he's a warlock named goldan
he uses evil fel magic bright green magic that
sucks life out of people or whatever he basically
farms a bunch of souls to open this portal lead
the people of orcs through the portal and they
end up in Azeroth. So that's why these are a
bunch of warfaring orcs that are suddenly in
human territory and they're fighting because
the orcs need a new home. Got it. That's the
basic plot. And so... If you heard a big sigh,
that was me. Yeah, right. Dude, I was sighing
this whole gosh dang movie. It was just so, ugh,
whatever. Why don't we introduce the world to
the main character? Well, one of the main characters.
Right, okay. So while you're off the top of the
bat, this movie is split off between... The human
perspective and the orc perspective. And on the
face of it, that's a cool decision. I like that
a lot. And the orc side, actually more interesting
than the human side. Significantly more interesting.
The orcs are all... At least they did that. Yes.
I think that's why... The orcs are not just evil
bad guys. Exactly. They have their own culture.
That's kind of brought a little bit into with
this movie. Again, my biases... I need to bring
my biases into this. They focus really hard on
orcs and humans, which is fair. That's the title
of the video game. Right. They do not use, and
there are so many interesting races in WoW. Like,
there are blood elves, there's night elves, there's
dwarves, there's gnomes, goblins, draenei. Like,
there are so many different cool cultures that
are barely, they barely are in this movie. It's
only humans, only orcs. Dwarves at least get
a talk and get a sentence. Yes, yes. There's
a talking dwarf character, and then that is it.
And he has, like, three lines, and he gives the
human, the main human character a gun. Right.
Just to show. Oh, yeah. Oh, we give him a gun?
That is my favorite. part of this movie. There's
guns in Warcraft. There's guns in Warcraft. What?
Yeah, yeah. Dwarves are like, so they know how
to make guns. They make flip -lock pistols and
stuff like that. I use my magic spell. I use
my glock. Well, right, okay, so gnomes, this
is a tangent, gnomes basically are like, they're
all Tony Starks, little mini short Tony Starks.
So every race has a mount, humans have horses,
orcs have wolves, which look fucking sweet in
this movie, I will say that. The orc mounts look
good. Yeah, night elves have raptors. You seem
like you want to defect to the orcs right now.
He plays on the horde. I play on the horde on
WoW, yeah. So I have an undead warlock in WoW,
classic, and then I have a goblin mage in WoW.
in WoW retail. There you go. I'm so glad you
watched this versus me. I know, right? Goblins
aren't in this movie at all, at least that I
could see. Whatever, it's fine. Anyways, all
of these guys have mounts, and then gnomes have
literally like mecha ostriches, like robot ostriches.
Yeah, just like - You mean Chocobo? Yeah, they're
like, they're metal robot Chocobo. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. I'm in for it. So that's the kind
of, like, wow. Fastest animal. Wow just, or Warcraft
just gets real goofy with its fantasy. Like,
it does not take its, I don't, whatever. Except
in this movie, it takes itself seriously. Yes.
Like, that's the thing, like, with me, I never
looked at Warcraft as, like, a thing where it's
like, oh, the lore is super serious and something
to adhere to. Like, you could not put mecha ostriches
in Lord of the Rings. That would make no goddamn
sense. But they have a war pig. They have war
pigs. That's cool. Yeah, I don't know. You can't
have a Mechagrobot anything. Or in The Hobbit,
the TwiddlyWizzy. Oh, yeah. I love them. A lot
of people don't because it's stupid. Whatever.
I'm talking... Either way. Anyways, orcs are
all CGI. So basically every single scene where
the orcs are talking, there's no real footage.
It's just CGI orc, Uncanny Valley orcs. No, they're
not Uncanny Valley. It's the humans. I don't
know. They look... Yeah, whatever. It's the humans
that look rough because also... Yeah, so all
the human scenes, A, the human characters are
so goddamn boring. There's, what, Khadgar, the
plucky mage that defected from his... He's like
a student mage that defected. I have a thing
about him later. And he's the one that finds
out that... He basically finds out this evil
fel magic is happening. It hasn't shown up in
years. He's basically the guy who... He's the
Samuel Tarly of that movie, where he's flipping
through pages and being like... this is all happening
and no one is listening to me, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, you know. Okay, yeah. But he's much
more, he's like a good -looking Samuel Tarly
because he's also an arcane mage, but whatever,
it's... We've got our Boromir. We got our boring
Boromir. What's his name? Lothar. Is it Lothar
or Lothar? Lothar. So his name is Anduin Lothar.
Lothar. He's the brother -in -law to the king
of Stormwind, the king of Stormwind played by
Howard Stark. Dominic Cooper. Dominic Cooper,
yes. Howard Stark, get it. Also very boring.
Yeah. So Lothar's sister, the queen, also very
boring. So he didn't marry her at the end. No.
No, no, no, no, no. That was so weird, right?
Yeah, yeah. They did not get married. Wait, that's
a question? Yeah. No, no, no. It's very interesting.
We'll get there. We'll get there. We'll get there.
I gotta move through. We gotta push back. I know
you have questions. We gotta wait. Gotta move
on. We gotta go. Go, but just no anticipation.
I'm basically tuning out the rest of the questions.
Keep going. So basically, all of the... Yeah,
Medivh. And Medivh is like the guardian. He's
the lead sorcerer of the humans. He's the avatar
of the humans. He's like the king's main consort,
but he lives in his mage tower high above elsewhere.
Does he marry his sister? No. Medivh is... I
would have guessed that Medivh is celibate. I
think he has to be. I just have questions now
about this alone. Don't worry about it. It's
Alabama. What is happening? So all of the humans,
none of them... have very good interesting character
interactions. They're all, and whenever they're
talking and whenever they're planning stuff out,
it just looks like, I get Star Wars prequels
vibes where they're just, it's clearly like a,
like some of the set designs look really cool.
Yeah. But it doesn't look real. And I guess I
don't need it to look real, but like I would
have just rather it be animated at that point.
Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like
why have all these, like maybe even do the mocap
of a live actor, like live for the actors and
stuff. That's fine. But having the humans be
real and the orcs, Clearly CGI. It just, it never
visually, you know, blends together. Coalesces.
There we go. You got it. Okay. And I want to
add that I genuinely asked Andre, like halfway
through the film, like, is that person real?
Because I thought this was a Richard Zemeckis
situation. Robert Zemeckis. Sorry, a Robert Zemeckis
situation. And it's not. And you're right. And
I straight up would have preferred that. He looks
so waxy. Beowulf 2007 looks... More on Candy
Valley, but also more cohesive as a result. You
know what I'm saying? Because for as weird as
that movie was, I'd rather this Warcraft movie
look like that than this. Yeah, the human character.
It's really weird. The acting is wooden. The
acting's wooden. Honestly, okay, so like I said,
I have a fucking mage character. I love mages
in WoW. All the magic special effects look lame
as shit, man. Is it like 20 earthbenders moving
a rock? Not that bad, no. But like, you know,
like what? There's like a scene where Medivh
is on top of the mountain and the works of humans
are fighting and he summons a wall of lightning
and I'm like, the wall of lightning looks cool,
but Medivh just passes out. He's like, oh, I'm
so tired from doing wizard shit, even though
I'm supposed to be the best at this wizard shit.
And he passes out. And it's like, what the fuck?
This Medivh guy sucks. Like, all of these characters,
And here's the thing, right? So like I said,
I played a bunch of WoW. In the timeline, all
of these characters are either long gone or whatever.
The king, so Howard Stark. Yes. In WoW, it's
his grandson that is the current adult grandson
is the current king of Stormwind. Oh, okay. All
right. So they try for something. Yeah, okay.
Right. And, but, like, so that's the thing. Like,
I've heard his name be called, and then they'll,
like, oh, I remember Great King Lane, or whatever.
Dude's lame as shit, man. Like, it's like...
Lane is lame. Lame. Lane is lame. Lane is lame.
Lothar is lame. So we've got Boring Mirror. Boring
Mirror, Lane, and Lame Sister, who may or may
not... Lame Sister, not Lame Sister. Yeah, whatever.
I don't know. And then, you know, for our orc
campaign. The orcs are better. The orcs are slightly
more interesting. So like I mentioned, we had
this Gul'dan figure who I actually know the most
because Gul'dan, he's basically the actual evil
bad guy. He's a warlock. He uses fel magic, the
evil magic, to basically trick his people into
going through the portal. He really just wants
to control all the orcs and stuff. And the main
orc character is Durotan. Durotan. Durotan. Yeah,
Durotan. I'm thinking of... names now for lame
and yeah so Durotan's not lame I'm gonna go back
for Durotan so Durotan is easily the most interesting
character in this movie he's basically like the
first person like he like so the basically opening
scene is like him like hanging out with his with
his pregnant wife whatever partner whatever they
call him an orc Daka yes who basically they're
pregnant with the main character of the main
orc character of Wow Thrall he's like the main
main guy the fans call him Jesus because he's
basically like... He's called Goel. Yeah, he's
called Goel, but literally that orc is like a
Moses character. It's Orc Moses, right? Where
literally there's a scene where the mom lays
him in the basket and lets him water the river.
You can bet I was singing Deliver Us. Yeah, there
it is. Anyways, so Durotan, so he goes to the
portal, and he's basically kind of like one of
the lead chieftain, but he's suspicious about
Gul'dan, and he's like, I don't think our people
need to follow this guy, and he's the first person
to try to basically raise an olive branch with
the humans, right? Okay, yeah. So he's obviously
the orc that's kind of caught on both sides,
and he's trying to just get his people free from
Gul'dan's grasp. Right. And so all that stuff,
well, none of his stories, like the way his story
goes isn't particularly good. surprising at all
it's definitely the most engaging okay but so
that's the thing like I was the most engaged
with the orc Like, the orc parts were kind of
neat -ish. You forgot a character. Who did I
forget? Garona. Garona. God, the Garona. Paula
Patton. Yeah. And the only reason I know that's
IMDb. Right. Explicitly, the only orc, and apparently
I think she's half orc, not full orc. It's never
explicitly said. It's never explicitly said.
But she's the only orc that's not CGI. She's
in makeup. So she's impractical. She's your hot
orc. She's your hot, yeah, yeah, yeah, hot orc,
yeah. Hot orc. Yeah, and I figured they'd pick
that because she's actually mostly with the humans.
know there was a besides you know making sure
she's nice on the eyes yeah spending time with
the predominantly male human cast yes right right
so she's she's basically the fan service character
well whatever i don't know she's like an orc
that basically gets captured by the humans when
they first skirmish up and then she kind of the
the howard star kind of says, hey, if you give
us information about the orcs, where they're
going, I promise you freedom. We're going to
do our best for you. And he's genuine about that.
Howard Stark's not a dick. He's just boring.
Do they mean that? Because there are various
points in the film where they're like, if she
does what we ask her to do, it's good. But then
we're ready to kill her. It's a tenuous relationship,
for sure. I'll give the film this. They keep
it very ambiguous, whether by design or accident.
Yeah, right. Either way, so most of her scenes
are with the humans, so that's why I figured
she's the one in makeup and not CGI. Right. And
they try to have this romance with Lothar and
Garona, and I'm sure that happened in the games.
They did not build up to it at all. It makes
no gosh dang sense. They also kind of tease that
Kagar... Khadgar. Khadgar is also into her. He's
the mage guy. Because he's the one who finds
her and I think she saves his life indirectly.
Yeah. And he's just so smitten by this woman,
this orc lady. But no, it less turns into her
and Lothar, but then, you know, it's, we don't
know how far they go. Right. There's some ambiguity.
Anyways, so this Medivh guy who I've been shitting
on for a little bit. So the main plot twist.
Because he sucks. Right, he sucks. He's a main
wizard. Right, right. So the main plot twist
of this movie is that I mentioned that Gul'dan
opened the Dark Portal from their realm, the
Orc's realm, to Azeroth. The main plot twist
is, well, that portal needs to be powered by
fel magic on both sides. So somebody on Azeroth
was powering it with fel magic. And so the plot
twist is that this Medivh guy who's basically
just been expositing. Bullshit dialogue. I'm
glad you said his name again because I was going
to say a famous tennis player's name and not
his name. Medvedev. Medvedev. Medvedev. Way cooler
than Medvedev. Medvedev's awesome. I would rather
hang out with Medvedev at any point than actual
Medvedev. Medvedev. Medvedev. Medvedev. a bird
though which you shouldn't say I'm also biased
because Medivh is a character in Blizzard's other
game called Heroes of the Storm it's like League
of Legends but with Blizzard characters which
extends to WoW so he's in that game and he's
a fucking annoying piece of shit in that game
he just turns into a bird and flies away and
you can't hurt him at all and I hate him anyways
Medivh sucks in this movie and in Haunts and
I think you need another drink, buddy. We need
to get the rage out more. Come on. I mean, he's
doing a good job. keep it on track right anyways
so like I said the main plot twist is that somebody
on Azeroth is fueling was fueling the dark portal
with fel magic and Khadgar is like no it can't
be is it it's Medivh and then like they're like
we have to get to Medivh now and so like I said
Medivh is usually in Karazhan his his tower his
mage tower yeah which is cool again like I should
I'm backing up a little bit there are moments
in this movie where I'm like oh like I remember
that, like from WoW, like cool, Karazhan's a
raid dungeon in WoW. So I was like, oh, this
is interesting to see it before it's blown up
to shit. Exactly right. You also really liked
seeing the Dark Portal. The Dark Portal is honestly,
because like I said, it's the login screen, and
it's where you go to, so the Orc world is called
the Outlanded WoW, and that's the location of
my favorite expansion, the Burning Crusade, that
came out when I was... Like, a high schooler,
that's the perfect time, honestly, to be playing.
Like, you have the most free time. I wasn't talking
to girls, no way. I was in WoW. I was grinding
bear asses in Hellfire Peninsula, baby. Wait,
what? You were grinding bear asses? It's what
my friends call, like, you know, like, it's the
joke where in WoW, like, every single quest is
like, I need you to go and kill these boars and
get their boar hides. Like, I need you to kill
these murlocs and get their fins. I need you
to kill these bears. and get their bare asses.
Yeah. You also liked at the beginning, and I
mean, this is to the detriment of the film. Yeah.
They need to set up a lot of things. They do.
So the beginning of the film is the worst part
because... It's fast travel the movie. Well,
it's fast travel the movie, but they're throwing
in so many proper nouns at you. And I know, and
I've been doing that too, but like, from your
perspective, Jo, I'm assuming that there's like...
Oh, it was so confusing. It was every four to
five minutes we would pan out with the camera,
see the map, Move the location, zoom in, meet
a character, be told, oh, we need to go to this
place to meet with another character. Rinse,
repeat. Yeah, with the point where I was pausing
the movie and being like, oh, like, this is where
this is in location with that. Because, again,
I know the locations, not the characters as well,
you know? Yeah. Yeah, and I just don't think
they did not. They did not budget their time
well with this movie as far as that goes. There's
just way too many proper nouns thrown at you
that I didn't even care at all. And I had the
most... I had the best chance to care for this
movie. You did. And it just didn't happen. I
would say that the last half hour is probably
the strongest of it. I agree with you. Because
that's where Durotan's story comes to a head.
He has that fight with Gul'dan and that's kind
of a coolish scene. But like... I don't know,
man. It ends on this weird note where, oh, well,
like, so basically it's nice that Orcs have the
A plot. There's, like, the A plot at the Dark
Portal. They're fighting, and the B plot is Khadgar
and Borringomir, whose name's Lothar. They're
fighting in Medivh's Tower, and they're fighting
a possessed Medivh. So the dweest is that Medivh
has been possessed by a demon. They don't name
drop the demon. It's not even very clear. No,
right. Literally, Khadgar's the first person
to suspect it, and then it cuts to Medivh in
the tower, and he's hanging out with his ward,
and he falls into his magic pit. And then he's
like, I'm sorry. It appears I've been possessed
by the fel magic. And then he's like, I'm sorry,
old friend. And then he turns green, and then
he starts having little tusks grow out of him.
And they don't name drop the demon, but the demon's
name is Sargeras, which is a huge WoW boss. He's
a big evil bad guy in WoW. Sequel rating, probably.
Right. Well, it's part of the lore, I guess.
But if they just name dropped Sargeras, I would
have been like, oh, cool. But I didn't know.
I didn't know. Who cares? Whatever. Anyway. Right.
Midi is a bad guy now. He's been possessed. And
so the final half hour, the best part, is the
A plot is all of the orcs and humans are fighting
at the dark portal to try to close the dark portal
so orcs stop getting through. Right. And then
the B plot is boring Omir, his name is Lothar,
and Khadgar, the plucky mage, are fighting. Evil
Medivh in his tower. The plucky man. I've got
a thing on him. We'll get there. I don't know,
man. At least the humans have the B plot, so
I don't have to care about that. The A plot is
the orcs, and Durotan has a cool moment where
he's having a fight. He basically... He goes
into ritual combat. He goes into ritual combat
and I hate to compare it to Black Panther because
Black Panther is an infinitely better movie and
this scene is also infinitely done better but
it's that kind of similar vibe where it's a very
sacred combat ritual. and so like nobody jumps
in correct it's just one on one combat Gul'dan
and Durotan and it's cool and they've done a
good job throughout the film setting up how like
tradition means a lot to the culture so that
is a good payoff yes so it's a payoff to that
and then that's so Durotan gets his shit kicked
in, obviously. But, you know, Gul'dan tries to
weasel out of it. So Gul'dan's sucking his soul
out or whatever. And they're like, what? You're
cheating. You're using magic. You can't use magic
to win this. So that was basically the first.
So Durotan dies. He bites it. But in his death,
that kind of sets up. Oh my god, I forget his
name. His name is Orgrim. Orgrim Deathhammer,
I think, or something like that. Blackhand? No,
Blackhand's the bad guy. Blackhand is the actual
bad orc that's Gul'dan's heel. Hold up, hold
up. Orgrim Doomhammer, I think, is what his name
is. Orgrim? I just have Orgrim. Robert Kaczynski?
Yes, yes. So Orgrim Doomhammer is basically Durotan's
best friend, and he basically uses that moment
to kind of... have a sea's power like basically
like have have all these orcs shake their faith
in gold and and kind of have a sea change okay
what's that black hand that's clancy brown yeah
black hands yeah yeah yeah yeah black hand is
like the actual he's like the the warfare war
chief that you see two sides of it where it's
you know you've got the orcs that are into it
and then starting to question and then the ones
that are like same level of questioning but decide
to just buy in right yeah yeah do you know clancy's
Like, claim to fame. He's been in a bunch of
stuff, but mostly voices and stuff like that.
Yeah, what's his claim? So, he is Mr. Krabs.
He's Mr. Krabs? He's Mr. Krabs. Whoa! He's also
Surtur in Thor Ragnarok. Oh, okay, got it. Yeah,
he's Mr. Krabs. He's been doing a bunch of stuff.
Like, he was in Shawshank, he was in Starship
Troopers. Okay. Like, he's been in everything.
But yeah, Clancy Brown is Mr. Krabs, which is
amazing to me. That's actually awesome. I'm going
to listen to Mr. Krabs with Black Hand. Black
Hand is like the main orc. If I know this correctly,
he's like the main orc bad guy you're fighting
against on the human campaign in the very first
game. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways. Whatever.
That's all happening. That wraps up. And then
what? Humans at the Black Gate. Humans are at
the Black Gate trying to prevent the orcs from
invading Stormwind, the human capital city. And
then what is it? Oh, yeah. So the king is there.
Howard Stark is there. And he's with Garona.
And it's kind of like Garona at this point is
very loyal to the humans. They've shown her kindness.
you know, there. You've shown me kindness. I'm
with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, like, inexplicably,
like, you know, they're fighting and it's intense
or whatever and then, like, and then the king
just turns to Garon and is like, you need to
stab me in the back to make it look like... you
did it so you could be a hero and be accepted
by the orcs so you can be the bridge between
orcs and humans it's the only way and i'm like
what sort so yes just to throw the throw in the
detail of they established that like you kill
someone if an orc kills right if the orc kills
the heist the chief they get that's their that's
their main way yeah yeah so that's like the whole
point is that if she kills the king She'll be
respected and take control. Gul'dan will still
be in charge, but they're going to follow her.
It's a political thing. It's a dumb political
thing. We should stab him and kill him? And they
tell nobody of this plan. They tell nobody of
this plan. He doesn't tell anybody else about
it, right? And he's like, you have to stab me.
And this is also right when, sorry, the B -plot
is still happening. Khadgar and Boring Omir.
They are victorious. They kill Medivh. They incapacitate
Medivh. And in Medivh's dying breath, he's like,
change it. He channels his power and changes
the portal. from the the dark portal they're
fighting literally fighting behind it the dark
world changes from being open to the orcs to
going to stormwind so basically it was a way
for the human soldiers to evacuate back to their
city oh okay and it's like okay cool and it's
like a neat reference because mages and wow can
open portals to cities so yeah it's like okay
cool i guess sure it's a little deus ex machina
though for sure either way humans are getting
retreating and that's when yeah this is filled
with them and uh this is that's when that's when
uh uh king howard stark basically hatches that
plan and so garona is tearfully stabbed like
stabs him in the back and she's like no and then
immediately like the orcs like stop fighting
the humans when this happens and they're like
yeah and they literally like bring her up like
crowd surfing style He's just in the middle of
a fucking battle. And at that point, that's when
Lothar shows up having flown in on a griffin.
Lothar wraps up his business and he sees her
stabbing him. My heart. I loved this woman. Except
I don't pretend. Maybe I did. Maybe I didn't.
Who knows? It was me. Because Howard Stark didn't
tell anybody, Lothar, Boring O'Meara, Anduin
Boring O'Meara Lothar thinks that Garona is...
has defected and is actually just bad. He gave
her his heart. She gave him betrayal. Oh my god.
He's a taste of betrayal. She gave him her mother's
tooth. She gave him her mother's tooth. Yes.
Right before they go into the final act of the
film and everyone goes their separate ways. So,
at one point, his son dies, Medivh. Indirectly
or maybe totally directly. Accidentally. Whatever.
Accidentally kills his son. Right. Accidentally.
He brings up the lightning wall I talked about
where he passed out and Lothar is on one side
and his son is on the other side fighting Orcstone.
Oh, and that's when Blackhand is like, I see
the connection. Oh, right. And so Mr. Krabs grabs
Lothar's son and looks at him and they both look
at him and he has him in his hand and it literally
just like, yeah, kills him. I'm an excited kid
now. Yeah, right. It was a very awkward moment,
honestly. Like, it's... It sounds more badass
than I'm making it. It was very bizarre. It was
very clunky. Yeah, it was a clunky scene. It
was just like, what? So after that fact... I
love how you said Mr. Krabs. It kills him. So
after that, Lothor, in a drunken misery, encounters
Garona, and she goes to console him, but that
is like kissing his neck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's
no chemistry built up at all. It's like, what
is this? yes right right and it's like okay you
didn't gauge the sizzling right and so I should
bring up that apparently they said that the director's
cut has or like his the director his cut would
have 40 more minutes of content and I don't know
if I can handle that would that include a sex
scene maybe who knows Curtain blowing in the
wind. That type of deal. Anyways. They make it
go out and then all of a sudden the camera pans
to the window. Something like that. The movie
wraps up with the baby from Dirt Camp Kid being
fished out of the river. Orc Moses being fished
out by... What's his name again? Thrall? His
name is... His orc name is Goel. But he will
become known as Thrall, and I'm familiar with
that character because he's basically the person
that actions all of the plot in World of Warcraft.
Who's this movie for? Is it for Warcraft fans?
It's for Warcraft fans, right. So I think it's
for, honestly, super nerdy Warcraft. I mean,
I don't want to be rude, but, like, it's... That's
why I asked. So this does... And when I read...
So when I read of this plot summary, it tries
its damnedest to get a plot out of the very first
game from 1994. And just as, like, context like
that game very revolutionary for the rts genre
yeah like for its gameplay but the story is literally
just paragraphs of voiced over text in between
different missions where you either play as the
orcs or you play as the humans and it's just
it's just this guy the general black hand who
is maybe voiced by mr crabs is in this is is
now invading goldshire we need you to ride there
and fight them off and that's it you know i'm
looking if clancy brown actually voiced Blackhand
in the game. No, he did not. No, no, no, no.
Blackhand wasn't voiced over. There's no voice.
Oh, there's no voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's
what I'm saying. Because I was wondering why
he's in this. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. This
was not like a, there's no, this was not like
a, oh, fan cast, like, you know, like, we'll
bring him back. No. Hey, I'm in for it. Right.
I love Clancy Brown. Yeah. So, like, the problem
is that they're adapting a video game story back
when That was from a game that was made back
when stories were very much not the focus of
video games. You know what I mean? I don't know.
At the end of the day, this movie did not...
I would not say it succeeded because it's not
going to make any people that don't know Warcraft
into Warcraft fans. Yeah. Because this doesn't
differentiate itself enough from Tolkien. Like,
it doesn't. Like, it's just bad Tolkien. You
ask who this movie is for. I can tell you one
thing. It is not for women. Fair. Yeah, fair.
Super fair. This movie does pass the Bechdel
test in the sense that there's just not, there's
only two female characters in this. And they
don't have enough time together on screen to
even really have a conversation. But they don't
pass the Bechdel test. They have to have a conversation,
right? They have a conversation. They do. They
talk. And it's not about a man. That's true.
Right. No, no, no. That's true. I guess it does
pass. Because the queen talks to Garona. You
know, she gives her a blanket. She gives her
a blanket. Gives her food. How long is the conversation?
Probably about two minutes. Something like that.
All right. Yeah. But you know what dampens the
whole thing? Yeah, it does. It passes the Bechdel
test. Yeah. Is that it's white savior. It is.
No, no, no. Like, that's the thing. Like, it's
not compelling at all. I want to say that. Like,
it's very, like, very forced. Like, oh, the queen
is showing the orc woman kindness. It's very
hand -fisted, you know? Yeah, you know, they
send the woman in to talk to the other woman.
Like, that's actually, like, that's a thing.
They're like, oh, she won't talk to us, which
maybe she'll talk to someone else. Right. Okay.
And the character of Khadgar. Khadgar. Khadgar.
Khadgar. So, throughout the film, after... There
was actually one where you forgot he was a man.
You saw... him riding on a horse, and you thought
it was a woman. Right, yeah, that's true. He
had a blue cloak on, and I was like, oh, that's
probably a girl, right? You just mentioned, there
are no women in this, and I'm like, yeah, probably
not. And I'm like, oh, that might be a woman
over there, you know, like a lady mage, you know?
And then no, and then it's like, oh no, it's
Khadgar. So it is really accurate to Warcraft.
No, it's not because half of them would be pretending
to be women. Anyways. I just mentioned Robert
Downey Jr. pretending to be a dude, pretending
to be a woman, pretending to be a dude. Right,
right. If this was actual World of Warcraft,
all of them would be inexplicably night elf females
wearing no armor whatsoever, doing dance emotes
in the middle of Stormwind. So when that happened
afterwards, I was like, well, why can't he be
a woman? What about him is so specifically tied
to a gender that this role just couldn't be a
woman? there is no reason why he couldn't be
a she. No. Unless, um, the mage school that he
left was, like, no women. Right. But we don't
know enough about the world to get that. Well,
right, right, right, right. So, like, I'll say
is that the main human mage character that's
plot relevant in... warcraft now is jaina proudemore
who is a woman i guess but like yay she's right
and like oh yay we get one of those that's the
thing is that like where's sylvanas sylvanas
isn't showing up yet like we're way before sylvanas
um that's the thing is that like i feel like
it was almost the wrong yes like i don't get
why they felt like they had to like be like oh
for the true fans we're gonna start at the very
beginning and it's like okay There's so much
more to pick from. If I can just play armchair
fan, if I can just be an angry fan on Twitter
for a second, if I were to make a Warcraft movie,
I would go one of two directions. I would go,
if they want to do the big political Game of
Thrones style, big, large -scale war thing, you
just jump straight to Warcraft 3 and you start
adapting Arthas' story, which I don't want to
get too much into it, but I still need to show
you that trailer because it's fucking dope for
Warcraft The Lich King. But basically, Arthas
is the most compelling villain, I think, in Warcraft
lore. I'm familiar with because he is a human
paladin that falls from grace. He falls to temptation
from taking Frostmourne, and he basically kills
his whole entire kingdom and raises an undead
army. So it sounds like Diablo. It's like Diablo.
And that's like, it's very cheesy, it's been
done before, it's very tropey, but it's also
cool as fuck. I would love to see a feature film
of that because there's a lot of melodramatic
character drama that can come from that. So he
wanted to be an angry fan on Twitter. His Twitter
is at Lama Dre. Yeah, right, right. Just at me.
What's the other direction? And then the other
direction I think is actually way more compelling
and because it's, again, biased from my experience
with WoW. I think you have to go small scale
with World of Warcraft where you make it about
a group of, maybe a group of people in a guild
or something like that going on a small... That
would be fun. No -name people within the world
going on a quest of something. It could be a
dungeon story or something. They have no connections
to kings, queens, whatever. They're not kings,
queens. They come from their own past. Exactly,
right. The kings and queens and all the war generals
are named. Every fucking D &D adventure. Yes,
right. Make it a D &D adventure. Exactly, right.
Make that a movie. Or it could be about a tavern
keeper or something. But something smaller, more
intimate, that makes the world itself a character,
I think. That would be the most compelling way
to show off Azeroth, I would say. All right.
We need to get to ratings. We do. Sorry. We need
to take a break and then do our last segment.
Yes. Okay. Ratings. I am going to go with 1 .25.
polymorph... 1 .25 murlocs out of 5. Oh, but
you liked it when you polymorphed into the shit.
I did. That was my favorite moment. You're right.
Okay. 1 .25 polymorphs out of 5. Okay. Oh, and
then I get to give a rating? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Even though it's Andre's bad movie, you watched
it. I did watch it. You watched it to the end,
man. Ugh. I'm gonna give it a 1 out of 5 ugly
-looking golems. damn yeah it was a checkoff
golem was it golem yeah yeah it was checkoff
golem that's for sure yeah well we are going
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they're the ones that guessed correctly on our
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about by a bunch of r**ts? I feel like others
might be hesitant to use a promo with the word
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The only thing that differentiates this is...
We're sh** shows. We're sh** shows. And we have
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leave us a five -star review. It helps other
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Interesting. It then messes with the... algorithm
or whatever so yeah okay yeah noted you know
apple podcast trying to screw over the little
guy yeah what the heck man yeah this is why you
always get joe rogan versus us or or that other
show that shall not be named you know how did
this get made which is essentially us but not
as good yeah there you go got him uh we move
now to our newest segment hashtag cacher track
Yeah. I like the hand gestures. I know, right?
It plays very well in the show. Did you just
freestyle that? I guess. The gestures get me
really excited for it. Yeah. So it builds up
the excitement in the voice, I feel like. Yeah,
yeah. I'm pumped down. I'm pumped up. Oh, you're
pumped down? I'm pumped up. You said pumped down.
I'm pumped down. Now I'm pumped up. All right.
For Andre. Hashtag. Hashtag. Cash or trash. That's
it. All right. But for the rest of us. Hashtag.
Cash or trash. Jill, you are once again starting
us off. Mine's going to be brief. We recently
fell into access for Apple TV. It's how we watch
Ted Lasso. Highly recommend. And after finishing
that up, we're like, what else is out there that
we've heard good things about but we haven't
had a chance to watch? So we decided to check
out Mythic Quest, or as it's known for the first
season, Mythic Quest Raven's Banquet. It's from
the... It's got the creators and... Creators
are part of the team that made It's Always Sunny.
Megan Ganz was the executive producer. It has
Charlie Day and then Rob McElhaney. That guy.
Charlie Day's not in it, but Rob McElhaney is
the main guy. Charlie Day was one of the creators.
As far as I know... McElhaney was like the brainchild
for this. Yeah. And it's a comedy that follows
a video game studio that produces the very popular
in -universe game Mythic Quest. One could say
it could be based off of World of Warcraft. Who
knows? It has a lot of Bethesda characters. Who's
the... What's the studios that show up a lot?
Oh, man, I think they must have had to deal with
Ubisoft, because one very cute thing about this
is that all of the scene transitions, they show
gameplay footage, and a bunch of them is from,
like, I've seen, like... Clips from, like, Assassin's
Creed or For Honor or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They don't try to, like, make a specific game,
just generic fantasy. But, yeah. Yeah, and it's
got a cast of colorful characters. Each of them
do different things for the company, and they
clash heads with crazy ideas. Last episode we
happened to watch was about them discovering
Nazis that play the game. So how are they going
to solve the Nazi problem? okay yeah some interesting
ideas that get printed across the field okay
oh yeah dinner party yeah and honestly it's a
show that like it starts off I think a little
shaky but I think it's finding its footing and
you know what the second season just came out
a few days ago weeks weeks ago sorry yes a few
weeks ago so you know we're looking forward to
watching the latest episode was a few days ago
there we go about halfway through the first season.
We're enjoying it. We've heard a lot of good
buzz for the second season. So I'm anticipating
this to be like a lot of series where the first
season is kind of like a trial run. Like Space
Force. Yeah. And even The Office. The first season
is like the trial run. You get to know the characters
but then they're figuring out things that work
better and the second season is... from what
we're hearing, a lot. Really, really good. Perfect.
No, I like that kind of stuff. Yeah. So, would
you say hashtag cash or hashtag trash? I would
guess. Hashtag cash. Yeah. I would guess, but,
you know, you just gotta get those ratings. Yeah.
So, the latest I will talk about is Woman in
the Window. It's a movie that Clara really wanted
to watch because she read the book. It does have
a great cast. It's Amy Adams. It's Julianne Moore
and... What's his name? Dang it. Oh, I know who
you're talking about. Gary Oldman. Gary Oldman.
That's not who I thought you were talking about.
No, it is Gary Oldman. And Brian Tyree Henry's
in it as well. Oh, okay. Yeah. And Wyatt Russell.
That's who I'm thinking of. Oh, Wyatt Russell.
He's in it as well, yes. I love Wyatt Russell.
Yes. Wyatt Russell's a smaller part, so that's
the reason why he wasn't in my initial stuff
about it. You know, it's a woman that is agoraphobic,
stays in her apartment. It's very rear window.
The issue is it's not as good as rear window.
the lady on the train yes rear window yes it's
very it's very similar to both of those yes okay
it is rear window i would say completely almost
because like even she has the binoculars she
has a camera you know like that kind of stuff
also like a raging alcoholic she is a raging
alcoholic and that's it introduces the untrusting
narrator because you don't know exactly what
she's hiding what she's making up that kind of
stuff and you don't know her tragic backstory
Yes, exactly. Whoever directed this has never
done an action movie. The ending of that movie
was awful. Really? Yeah, it was terrible. They
tried to make this action sequence and the camera's
all over the place where I had no clue what was
happening. And it was just not good. How's Amy
Adams? Amy Adams is okay. I think this whole
movie has problems and Amy Adams is not the crux
of them. I feel it. like she's kind of picked
some bad movies to be in because she was in hillbilly
elegy which is effigy no elegy elegy and that
is was slammed for basically being manipulative
Oscar bait and like her character is not written
well and I'm starting to think that with not
if not directed well or given good material It's
funny because I think Amy Adams can be a great
actress. And we've seen her do things that are
amazing. She'll always be Giselle for me from
Enchanted. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And then she was in
Arrival. Yeah. There's so many things that Amy
Adams has done right. It's just I don't think
she knows when to say no. Sure. And this movie
on paper should have been better than it was.
Because I think the script. could be better if
doctored a bit more yeah and and what claire
tells me the book is great so that that's the
reason why based on a book it is based on a book
yes i want to know who wrote the book uh I think
it's the girl on the train. Yeah. Yeah, okay.
That explains the similarities. Yeah. Don't quote
me on that. I'm going to look this up because
I have never seen Girl on the Train, but it's
a similar deal where it's this alcoholic, former
recovering alcoholic who's unreliable, sees things
on her commute, and then there's another layer
there. So look at this book title and tell me
that's not the same. That is. Wow. A .J. Finn.
It's the same person who wrote The Girl on the
Train. This writer knows how to write the same
story. I'm not going to say it's a bad thing
or anything like that in the fact that the story
is decent. I see where they were going. They
missed a few parts where I think it was just
not directed well. That's what it comes down
to for me. The director is not good in my opinion.
I'm looking it up. Joe White. Joe Wright. Who
also has directed Filmography. Okay. He's done
20 films. Okay. The Window, Darkest Hour, Black
Mirror. Which episode of Black Mirror? Oh, he
directed Pan. Okay. I don't remember that. Anna
Karenina, which, from 2012, which I heard was
very good. Okay. The Soloist, Atonement. So,
all right. Pride and Prejudice? This person can
direct films, just not thrillers. Maybe that's
it. Yes. All right. Maybe that's the reason.
They tried to do something out of the box or
something like that where it just didn't work.
So while I will say Woman in the Window is serviceable,
you can be all right with putting it on, maybe
after a few glasses of wine. Good taste. I will
say hashtag trash. I will put it in the trash
pile. Even for Wyatt Russell? Wyatt Russell was
probably the best character of the whole thing.
I think you might be a little biased, but...
No, no, no. No, I actually am not. Because the
reason I'm saying this is when Claire learned
that Wyatt Russell was the character he was,
because, again, she's read the book. When she
learned that he was playing that character, she's
like, this is an amazing fit for him. Ah, okay,
gotcha. I mean, he is Captain America. He's Captain
America. Oh my gosh. No, he is U .S. Agent. Now
he's U .S. Agent. Andre, what do you got for
the Catcher Trash? Okay, so because I just talked
your guys' ear off about a very bad video game
adaptation, I want to talk to you guys about
the best video game adaptation, I think, at this
point. If you don't count Wreck -It Ralph. I
was going to say Mortal Kombat was pretty...
The new one was pretty good. I would put it above
that. I think the original is also a pretty good
adaptation of Mortal Kombat. Yeah, sure, sure.
Okay, that's probably... We can talk movies,
yeah. But this is a... How about a series or
whatever? I think... I cannot think of another
option right now. I would put this... Okay. I
would call this an actual good series, not schlocky
good. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. A video
game. Yes. A TV series and a video game. Yes.
And that is... Castlevania, the Netflix series,
which just had its fourth and final season premiere.
Although they say that apparently they're working
on a spinoff series, which for Castlevania, that's
very on -brand. Yeah. One chapter ends, another
begins. Yes. There are so many goddamn Belmonts.
There are so many spinoffs. Whatever. Anyways.
Dracula's. So, yeah. Released by Graham McTavish,
if you want a Hobbit connection. Oh, there you
go. Graham McTavish. Yes. And Richard Arm - Our
favorite hot dwarf. Yeah, he voices Trevor Belmont.
Sorry, I was talking about Grant McTavish, who's
the guy from Outlander. Yeah. But more specifically.
He's in Outlander? Yeah. Like the TV show? Yeah.
Oh, he's the hot guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then
he's in, there's another show that is kind of
similar to Outlander, but not really. It's called
Men in Kilts. That sounds better. Oh, okay. Sam.
I haven't seen it, but I didn't know he was in
it. I think there's another Hobbit alum in there.
So Men in Kilts. is a show with Sam Hugon? Hugon?
Hugon, yeah, and Graham McTavish. They both are
on Outlander. Oh, the comedian. Yeah, yeah. They're
both on Outlander, and they take a road trip
to Scotland, and each episode deals with a different
thing of Scotland's past, like sports, music,
whiskey, of course, dancing, there's the ghost
stories, everything like that. I love Men in
Kilts. I want to watch that. So Graham and Tavish
is awesome. They basically just rent an RV and
drive together everywhere through Scotland. I
could just hear Graham and Tavish talk for hours.
You'd love it. You'd absolutely love it. They're
goofy. They're fun. You'd love it. I'm down.
It's on Hulu. I have access to Hulu again. Yes,
it is on Hulu. The episodes air on Starz and
then after a week it's on Hulu. Oh, excellent.
And I think they just finished the entire first
season. That is another... cash for me sorry
keep going it is okay we're i love tangents um
castlevania four seasons the fourth one just
came out um if you're not familiar with it at
all it's based on a series of video games that
started back like it was one of the old school
Old school. Late 80s. Late 80s Nintendo Entertainment
System old school hard ass games. It's basically
you are the game you play as a vampire hunter
who goes into Dracula's castle to fight Dracula
and it's hard as balls. It's really really good.
A huge influence on the Dark Souls series. It's
created a genre of games. Yeah it's a Castlevania
part. Metroidvania. Metroidvania. It's thevania
of Metroidvania. Right. So huge. Okay. So just
cause I'm spacing it out. I think I'm right.
It's this series. I just don't know what game
it is. Okay. When you beat Symphony of the Night,
it flips upside down. That is Symphony of the
Night. Yes, yes, yes. I love that. The Symphony
of the Night, you play as Dracula's son, Alucard,
which is Dracula spelled backwards. And yeah,
you go through the whole entire game. They get
that from one of the classic movies. You are
aware of that. Yes, yes, yes. Oh yeah, they do.
Anyways, you think you beat the game and then
you have to go through the type thing upside
down again. Oh, classic game. Still holds up
to this day. So good. Anyways. The Netflix show
actually treats the source material with a lot
of respect, but crucially, you do not need to
know anything about Castlevania's lore or anything
at all. I think it's a fantastic watch if you're
into gothic horror, if you're into Dracula vampire
lore at all. If you have no problem with adult
animation. Yeah, if you have no problem with
adult animation. If you listen to our show because
of Vampire Boys, you are in. Yes, right. Yes.
Yes, because this also has hot Vampire Boys in
it. It does have hot Vampire Boys. Yeah. Do I
need to pop the top off again? Is that what's
happening? I don't know if you want to pop the
top off. There will be plenty of tops popped
off. Some things go pop off. And, like, my biggest
problem with that show when it first came out
was that the first season very much felt like
a test run. Only four episodes, and it very much
felt like a prologue. I feel like they should
have just released it as a movie, honestly, because
it felt like a prologue. It is basically a prologue.
It's basically a movie split into four acts.
Okay. But now that the whole entire story is
complete, I mean... Honestly, season two of Castlevania
is like... That's amazing. That is just such
an amazing payoff. Really, really good. Three
is not... It's slower. It's slower -paced, but
it's setting up for... Which we haven't seen
yet, but we're excited to. Either way, at the
very least, those first two seasons, I... an
excellent show that's also not super long like
if that you could probably knock it out in a
weekend if you really tried to yeah most episodes
are about 20 somewhere between like the 23 25
to like 38 minute length yes okay smart smart
adult dialogue direction just great action great
action scenes uh and the characters are super
compelling too we might be frustrated with some
of them but i'm frustrated one very much one
in particular he brought it upon himself yes
but we're still engaged with that story as a
whole okay fair as long as you're okay with like
adult animation like honestly like we mentioned
before like Invincible that's actually probably
a great follow up honestly if you are wanting
more from Invincible if you like the fact that
if you liked the gore from it maybe check out
Castlevania as well you know anyways so very
much cash yeah hard cash looking forward to more
and then shout outs to the showrunner let me
make sure I have his name Audie Shing car uh
he's the showrunner he's like a huge nerd but
he's basically the one that kind of pushed netflix
to kind of do this and he also got the keys to
a devil may cry adaptation on netflix as well
which i'm very excited for i'm pretty sure it's
live action but i don't know anyways yeah excited
so yeah well that was cash or trash thank you
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