You know what that sound means? It's another
episode of Game for a Movie where we ask, are
you game for a movie? My name is Mike. I'll be
your host this evening. I've got an interesting
one for you tonight. So a while back, we did
an episode on this movie called Avengers Grimm,
which is a mock buster made by the Asylum Films.
It is about Avengers Age of Ultron. It came around
at that time. It really is more Avengers, but
Avengers Ultron, we'll call it because that's
where it got released. Well, they have made a
sequel and it is called Avengers Grimm Time Wars.
This is from 2018 and I'm going to go more into
it. But of course, I've got to talk to you about
the beer I'm drinking as well as I want to kind
of go into the history of the asylum. If that
sounds boring, trust me, it's not going to be.
I promise. And especially because Avengers Grimm
is one of our worst episodes, like by far one
of our worst episodes, one of the least downloaded,
everything like that, because a lot of people
just don't know what it is. Trust me. You want
to listen to this episode because Avengers Grimm
Time Wars is worse than Avengers Grimm and also
funnier than Avengers Grimm. So I'm going to
go into details about some of that stuff. But
first, I got to tell you what I'm drinking. Tonight,
it is Montucky Cold Snacks, the unofficial beer
of Montana. Montucky Cold Snacks is a light beer.
I'm not normally a light beer guy. But compared
to something like Bud Light, Coors Light, that
kind of thing, I would much prefer a Montucky
Cold Snacks. This sounds like an advertisement
for them. This is truly one of those light beers
that I go out of my way to try to find. It is
that good. Plus, they're sold in Tallboys, which
is great for a light beer. Normally, you don't
get the Tallboy. It's fantastic. So, as for the
Asylum, now we're going to talk about the film
studio that produced this. the asylum we've talked
about before because we've done other episodes
with them before obviously avengers grim we also
did atlantic rim which is a mock buster of pacific
rim there are plenty more of those and you're
probably thinking to yourself how the hell does
the asylum have this much money well they are
also the ones responsible for the sharknado films
so five decent i i say decent five good money
making films Yeah, that's going to lead to a
lot of mockbusters. And they are the king of
mockbusters. We played a game the last time we
did an episode with the Atlantic Rim stuff about
I'm going to name a movie. You have to tell me
what's a parody of. So, for example, something
like San Andreas Quake. Obviously San Andreas.
So there are plenty more. It's a fantastic episode
on Atlantic Rim if you want to go back and find
that one. basically what they do is they do satire
movies is kind of it's parody movies it's it's
knockoff movies that's that's basically what
it is of some of the biggest movies that are
out and they do it about the same time that the
movie gets released so it's kind of impressive
almost how they are able to release these almost
at the exact same time that being said None of
them are really good. The only ones that have
really hit are the Sharknado movies. There's
some that maybe you've heard of, but for the
most part you haven't. So I'm going to talk about
this film, and let me tell you right now, you
know none of the actors. You know none of the
directors. You know none of the writers. I'm
not going to even tell you some of their names,
because honestly, I know for a fact you don't
know them from anything. And if you do, you're
lying to me. So Avengers Grimm Time Wars, it
sits at an 8 % audience score on Rotten Tomatoes,
and there's not enough for a critic score. So
8 % as a whole between the two scores. This follows
the events of both Avengers Grimm and then the
Sinister Squad, which I have not watched, and
I did not realize was in the same universe as
Avengers Grimm. I should have probably done that
one first. It's okay. I got enough that I know
kind of what's going on. I don't think these
movies are very hard to figure out. Essentially
what this is, is an Avengers team, but it's grim
fairy tale characters. And more specifically,
it's grim fairy tale characters that are women
that they can put in skimpy outfits and kind
of just give you something to look at. They all
have powers based on who they are. Yeah, that's
all you're getting from this. So Avengers Grimm
Time Wars is a parody of Infinity War. and i
think more so i'm gonna call it more so a parody
of endgame because in infinity war they didn't
do time travel this one does time travel okay
the beginning of it is a quick semi recap of
the first movie and it's a run through of looking
glass which is the shield of the avengers films
looking glass is the organization that protects
our world from the other realms this is done
ridiculously quickly i'm not even joking if the
first five minutes are supposed to be exposition
in a normal movie or like setting the scene that
kind of thing this is done in 30 seconds a man
breaks through this barrier onto a beach and
he is being chased by a woman uh the woman has
gills and there's like a random dude that's trying
to like help out the guy like what's wrong what's
going on that kind of thing this random guy is
like mesmerized by her beauty and like is all
of a sudden stuck and she destroys him with the
trident and she hits the trident into the ground
and these random sentries come from the water
and they are chasing prince charming that is
the guy who broke through the realm and more
specifically prince charming's ring she says
the phrase as they are chasing him she has a
wedding to plan So these sea people, these mermen,
start breaking out, and now the city is on fire.
And this is where we get our first look at Lookingglass.
From Lookingglass, we get the idea of who these
characters are that broke through the realm.
The first one is Charles Charming III, or Prince
Charming. And the other person is Magdalena the
Mad, or Magda the Mad, from Atlantis. She is
essentially... It's kind of a parody at this
point as well of Justice League and the fact
that she is essentially Aquaman, but just the
female equivalent of it. Looking Glass is run
by Alice as well as Hatter, obviously the Mad
Hatter, and these are characters from Alice in
Wonderland. And they basically have figured out
that even though they were going to send her
back, they need to wake up one of these people.
In order to take down Magda the Mad. And that
person is Snow White. And Snow White. She is
the one that is supposed to marry Prince Charming.
While they're kind of explaining what's happening.
We go to Magda the Mad's lair. And Magda's mermen
are bringing a guy to her. And they. This guy
gets thrown in front of her. And you're pretty
sure. So in the first Avengers Grimm. The big
bad was Rumpelstiltskin. And Rumbled Stiltskin
was played by Casper Van Dyke. In this one, it's
an absolute nobody. And you kind of get that,
okay, this is Rumbled Stiltskin. They don't exactly
say that right away, but you just kind of pick
up on the fact that it's Rumbled Stiltskin, especially
if you watch the first one. I don't think you
need to at this point. And I'll go into more
stuff about that, but for the most part, I was
a little worried that I'd... I had done Avengers
Grimm a long time ago, and so I was a little
worried that I was not going to be caught up,
so I thought about torturing myself and watching
it again. You don't need to. I don't feel like
I missed anything. Rumpelstiltskin reveals to
Magda the Mad that Snow White is in town. Also,
it comes out that he was murdered. So this is
not the first Rumpelstiltskin. The first one,
like I said, was Casper Van Dyne. This is the
second one. We also get through them talking
that Charming has to marry Magda to break the
enchantment. And basically, Rumpelstiltskin says,
I will help, but you just give me Atlantis. And
she's kind of laughing it off. Like, why do you
want Atlantis? And he's like, no, like, you're
not going to need it. Once you marry Charming,
you're going to own the entire land. You are
going to be the queen, the ruler of the land.
I just want Atlantis. And so she kind of agrees.
And there's like this unspoken plan. Brumpled
Stillskin is going to get Charming to Magda.
Now we are at this random warehouse in the middle
of the city, we assume. And Charming is there.
And there is a bunch of mermen after him. And
this comes across. This is one of those like
terribly choreographed fight sequences. And even
more so. What's rough about it is that it's like
one of those one merman at a time attacks, and
there's like a million jump cuts. And finally,
it's like down to the last two, and you're just
like, oh, God, please. They're not going to hit
each other, are they? They come at Charming,
Charming makes a miss, and they hit each other.
It's that kind of fight scene. So, you know,
you know exactly what you're getting with this
movie at this point. And when the city was on
fire, it's terrible CGI fire. The entire city
looks fine, except for just these, like, little
spots that are just, like, horribly rendered
smoke stacks kind of thing. So, you know, that's
what it is. After he defeats the Mermen, he runs
off, and we go back to Lookingglass. And Lookingglass,
Alice, and Snow White are talking about the Broken
Realms and Mirrors, and basically where Charming
has been. Charming has been gone for a while.
Like, this is... He's been missing. So Snow is
kind of like, where the hell has he been? He
has been stuck in Atlantis. And Alice is also
talking with Snow about she needs to get the
team back together because she's not going to
be able to defeat Magda on her own. So she needs
to go find Sleeping Beauty and Red. Obviously,
Sleeping Beauty is Sleeping Beauty. Red is Red
Riding Hood. I told you, these are grim fairy
tales. You know these characters. They just use
shorthand sometimes. So I'm just giving you that
more so. I think you guys can figure it out.
But just in case you didn't, that's what it is.
And as we mentioned them, it goes back to the
warehouse. And Sleeping Beauty and Red are at
the warehouse. And they both see that all these
mermen are down. And they're trying to figure
out who did it. And one of these mermen is not
quite dead. He gets up. And Sleeping Beauty tries
to put him to sleep with magic. Like, sleep.
kind of thing and it doesn't work and this is
a recurring thing that sleeping beauty's powers
aren't really working the same as they used to
but it's okay because red has a bow and arrow
and shoots the merman straight through the eyes
and he's gone snow white shows up and proves
that she isn't dead they both thought that she
was dead turns out she wasn't she has just been
on ice and she slept through the invasion and
sleeping beauty slash sleepy is pissed about
this But it's okay. They're going to figure it
out. We also then get some exposition about why
this ring is so important. The people of the
land that Prince Charming is a prince over have
put all the power into this ring so that he can
split the power between him and the fairest in
all the land. Which, you know who the fairest
in all the land is? It's Snow White. So this
is where this came from. in this ring and it's
so important. Part of Rumpelstiltskin's plan,
Magda makes an explosion happen in the middle
of the city and knows that Charles is the heroic
type. He's going to show up. He does. Guess what?
He goes and follows the explosion just like everybody
thought he would. And Magda is just like, you've
got to marry me. And he says one of these lines.
It's pretty good. And this is one of the first
times he speaks. He goes, magna you should know
there are plenty of fish in the sea it's cheesy
but it's kind of funny and especially because
his voice is like the old spice commercial guy
you know like the i'm on a horse that kind of
thing that's his character's voice the entirety
of the movie and at first this is the first time
you're really hearing it it's hysterical by the
end of the movie you just hate this person and
you're not cheering for them at all So while
Magda is distracted with Charles and sends Merman
after him, Snow and her crew show up. And immediately
Charles is just distracted by Snow. And they're
like looking in each other's eyes in the middle
of this battlefield, by the way. There's people
fighting around them. This is their first time
seeing each other in years. And they're just
distracted with each other and not fighting anybody.
Magda gets angry, fires her trident, blows them
apart. Charles ends up on the other side of some
wreckage and Rumbled Stiltskin is there and able
to put him to sleep. He also steals a hair from
Charming and he drags him towards Lookingglass.
This is part of his plan. So he's going to drag
him towards Lookingglass. So for the rest of
the fight, Snow kind of figures that her Sleeping
Beauty and Red are kind of outnumbered. So they
retreat. They're going to go back to Lookingglass.
They don't get there first. First is Charles
with Rumpelstiltskin. And it looks like Charles
has turned the tables on Rumpelstiltskin. He
has him tied up, gagged, and basically brings
him into looking glass because he wants to show
that he has got Rumpelstiltskin. They're going
to send him back through the gateway back to
his realm. It doesn't take a genius to figure
out what's going on here. Because we saw Rumpelstiltskin
grab his hair. We know he has his hair. And even
though we don't know what the powers are for
Rumpelstiltskin, we know there are powers. And
the fact that he grabbed one of his hairs makes
it pretty obvious that these two are now the
opposite. Rumpelstiltskin was able to make himself
look like Charles. Charles now is trapped by
Rumpelstiltskin and looks like Rumpelstiltskin.
And so because Alice got fooled, she had kicked
up the gateway. Now Rumpelstiltskin is able to
knock out the Hatter and knock out Alice. And
it just so happens that her crew gets there at
the same time. Snow, Sleepy, and Red. and rumpled
silkskin escapes to the gateway also at the same
time in crappy slow motion snow sleepy and red
get sucked through but this was again part of
his plan rumpled silkskin didn't actually go
through the gateway he was holding on and didn't
get sucked through he just wanted to get rid
of those three and charming in like a display
of heroism throws the ring to snow But of course,
this ring is intercepted by Rumpelstiltskin.
And after they get sucked to the gateway, he's
able to turn it off and Magda sneaks in and knocks
out Charming. Magda sends a dozen mermen into
the gateway and says she wants the gateway destroyed
so they can't come back. This is said at this
point. I just want this to be known. This is
a part foreshadowing of the rest of this movie.
She says... I'm sending these mermen through,
and I want the gateway destroyed so they can't
come back. Okay? Right? We're all in agreement
this is what was said? This is all that was said.
So now her, Rumpelstiltskin, a couple other mermen,
and they're dragging Charming away. So far in
this movie, Charming, he's held his own in some
fights, don't get me wrong. But so far, for the
majority of the movie, he's either been chased
or he's been knocked out. That sucks. Alice had
woken up and she is like totally visible. She's
hiding behind a couch in like the most obvious
spot. But Magda and her mermen don't see her.
Rumpelstiltskin sees her and gives her a wink.
After Rumpelstiltskin gives her like a wink,
we get this blue CGI flash on the screen. And
this blue CGI flash is the transition thing between
past, present, and future. And so whenever it
happens, you got to imagine there's just some
wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff. It takes us
to Snow White who wakes up and sees a castle.
She also is like realizing what this castle is.
She looks at this tree and she realizes her dwarves
are near. So she needs to go look for them. Also
in the same woods is Red. And Red is a psychopath.
So Red's powers, because, like, all of these
have powers. So, like, Snow's powers are kind
of, like, frozen powers, you know, that kind
of thing. Like, she can make ice kind of thing.
Sleeping Beauty can, like, put people to sleep.
Also, something else that comes around later
that I'm not going to mention now. Rumpelstiltskin
can obviously shapeshift and do other things.
Red is just armed to the teeth with weapons.
She is the Punisher. because she's in these woods
she finds this group of mermen and she just has
these two grenades and throws them and kills
half of this group of mermen then she pulls out
like two guns and slow motion dives and shoots
the rest of them and we don't see them die we're
just assuming that she nails like every shot
so she's like the punisher slash When she has
the bow and arrow, it's obvious she's trying
to be like the Hawkeye. That's who she is. The
grenades and the guns are hysterical because
they do not come back at all. Like, do not come
back. And then finally we get to Sleepy. Sleepy
is in a glass coffin. And this glass coffin is
being watched over by a merman. And she is not
okay because she's been in a glass coffin before.
This is part of the thing. She doesn't have her
powers, and she also has this trauma because
she was asleep for forever in a glass coffin.
So she doesn't handle tight space as well, and
she can't use her powers to get through this.
Luckily, she was given a knife earlier from Red,
and she starts to chip away at the box when the
merman's not looking. And it's quiet enough,
apparently, that the merman doesn't hear her
chipping away at the box. blue flash we're back
to the present and at looking glass a couple
mermen disable the gateway which is just one
pc and like a special power core and they're
taking the power core they're going to bring
it to magda the mad alice is like following them
with the power core and the hatter who also somehow
got away from the mermen that were supposed to
be looking through looking glass sees her and
lets her know that he has a present for her the
present is the medicine she needed earlier as
well as a watch and this watch he attaches to
her wrist okay we have no clue what this means
at this point that's okay magda now at her place
gets the power core also charles is brought in
and lets magda know that he will always be thinking
about snow there is no way He is ever going to
marry Magna. There's just no way he will always
think about Snow. Whether she doesn't make it
or not, he will be thinking about her. And obviously
this hits a nerve. And so she says to take him
away to the dungeon. Rumpy, Rumpy Stillskin,
Rumpy, saw everything from his hiding spot and
promises that he will convince Charmaine to marry
her. Promises her. This is going to happen because
I want Atlantis. This is not the hardest script
to follow. We all kind of know where everything's
going, that kind of thing. And at this point,
we know also that Rumpelstiltskin's got a plan.
And I don't know what it is. I don't think he
wants just Atlantis, but we all know this at
this point that it's probably not just he wants
Atlantis. So he has a plan. We'll see how it
works. We'll see how it goes. All right, before
we go back to the past and before we learn more
about Rumpy's plan, we're going to take a quick
little time to shout out. I didn't think anybody
was going to guess this bad movie. And for the
most part, a lot of people haven't heard of this
movie. I get it. It's okay. So what I put out
for our podcast guessing game was that I want
you to tell me a character that's not a superhero.
And explain why they would make a good superhero.
Honestly, all three I couldn't decide between
who to give the shout out to. So I'm going to
shout out all three of them. First, we've got
Watch It If You Can Podcast. They've had their
promo played through the show a couple times
at this point. They said Larry David from Curvy
Enthusiasm. Which I don't know if he would be
a good superhero. But their point was a superhero
that will save people but also complain about
it. They need help now. I just ordered the soup.
I can't do a good Larry David. It's fine. Also
giving a shout out to Totally Rad Christmas.
They said Santa Claus or more specifically Rad
Santa. Okay, I'm with that. And then finally,
Shoot the Flick. Another one of our favorites.
They said Ash from Evil Dead. I'm down with that.
I think he is a superhero at this point, right?
Don't we all? So yeah. Those three get a shout
out for giving me some of the best answers about
which character isn't a superhero, but you think
would make a good one and why. That's also a
question you can keep going if you want. So if
you guys have an answer that you think should
be on there, go ahead. Send it to our Twitter
slash X slash whatever the fuck we're calling
it. At Game for a Movie. You can also send it
to us at other places too. I'd love to hear from
you what you think is a good answer for a superhero
that's not a superhero. Take a Montucky sip,
and we are back to Avengers Grim Time Wars. So
now we are back in the past and in the woods,
and Snow comes across seven tiny little graves.
And this is presumably the dwarves. Oh no, her
dwarves are dead. And so... i feel like this
was just a way to like mention them but not really
bring them in i don't know it feels weird that
we didn't get the dwarves i think this would
actually been kind of fun and maybe i don't know
if it would have helped the movie but an eight
percent rotten tomato score it definitely wouldn't
have hurt that much well they're all gone and
like on their graves is a different weapon of
their choice like their axes and their swords
and that kind of stuff and right by this Is the
only talking merman in the movie. This is like
the merman captain. And he has been waiting for
Snow White. He knows this is where she was going
to go. So this is our one on one fight. Between
Snow White and the only talking merman. The merman
captain. So she makes a dagger of ice. Real quick.
And it doesn't affect him at all. So she grabs
like the axe or the sword. I don't know which
one she grabs. This is done with a million and
ten cuts. I don't know which one she grabs, I
just know she has a weapon. So they're fighting,
like, oh, stab, stab, stab, break apart, throw,
grab another weapon, that kind of thing. It's
that kind of fight. It ends with the merman diving
at her, and she jumps out of the way, but grabs
a spear from one of the graves and stabs him
with it. So the merman captain, easily taken
care of. So that's all we get in this flashback
to the past. So, Blue Flash, we are back in the
present. And Magda wants to know how Rumpelstiltskin
will convince Charmaine. And she's starting to
question him. And we all kind of are at this
point. It's pretty obvious he's going by the
seat of his pants. So he looks at one of the
mermen and he goes, How good an actor are you?
And has this merman throw him in the prison with
him? So... Now Rumbled Siltskin and Charming
are in the jail cell together. And Rumbled Siltskin
calls himself Ruben so that Charming doesn't
know what's up. So Rumbled Siltskin is going
to befriend Charming. And this is part of his
plan on how he's going to lure Charming to marry
Magda. And basically he asks, what are you in
for? And Charming gives this long explanation
of what happened. It was his and Snow's wedding
day. And basically Charming got like told that
something was happening in Atlantis and he needed
to go down there and help. So he was kind of
like, okay, I'm going to help. I'm going to go
down there. And Magda trapped him in Atlantis
for years. And so this is why he's now caught
because Magda wants his ring. Magda wants to
marry him. and rumpy knows all this like it's
not this is not knowledge that he's gained for
the first time but he's just trying to get charles
into this like place where he trusts reuben so
then reuben says to charlie or charles uh that
he's working with alice and that he's a double
agent. Like, he's kind of pretending to get Magda
what he wants, but he also is a double agent
working with Lookingglass to kind of bring Magda
back to her own realm. But as far as we can tell,
it seems like Charles believes him. It also feels
like he wants the ring and wants to marry Charles
so that he can control all the land. This is
not official or anything like that, but that's
just kind of what it feels like at this point.
And now we go to Lookingglass, same time. Hatter
gives the medicine and her watch, and this watch
makes her able to shrink like Ant -Man and kick
the crap out of the mermen. So she's able to
kick the crap out of these mermen that are at
Lookingglass so that they can try to figure out
how to get the gateway back open so they can
get their Avengers Grimm team. Because they can't
get the gateway open, they are having a hard
time trying to locate where the girls are and
everything like that. And so Alice asks the Hatter
if he's familiar with time travel and if there's
anything he can do. And he said he's only used
to the hallucinogenic type. So Alice gets him
to make a special tea to try to find them. She
also says she is going to find the Queen. And
we all know that's the Queen of Hearts. Back
to Magda's lair. And Rumpy has made Charming,
like, depressed as hell. And this is part of
his plan. He wants to make him depressed so that
he has something to live for. And that something
to live for, he's going to make sure it's Magda.
This is all said because a merman came in and
pulled Rumpy out of there. And Magda kind of
had like a heart to heart, not a heart to heart,
but like threatened him. It was like, what's
your game? What are you doing? He goes, oh, I've
made him depressed as hell. Now I'm going to
make him see that he has something to live for,
which is Magda. And so she's kind of like, okay,
I'm still weary, but it sounds okay. I'll send
you back in there. When he gets back in there,
he immediately tells Charming that Snow is alive.
If that was his plan to get him depressed, again,
this is what I'm saying. Though the screenplay
is easy to figure out and you know exactly what's
going to happen, some of his moves don't make
sense at all. So I'm kind of confused when it's
like, oh, I'm going to make him depressed. I'm
going to give him something to live for. Now
I'm going to ruin that by saying, hey, Snow's
alive. I just don't follow it. I don't see what
his game is at this. All right, Blue Flash, we're
back in the past. And Red is once again hunting
mermen. And she kills three of them with one
arrow from her bow and arrow. the only thing
that makes me laugh about this is when the guys
fall because they do like this scene where like
you see behind the merman and you see them all
fall one way or the other um the thing that's
funny to me is that like normally it's one of
those things where it was from far away and it's
like a ridiculous shot that kind of thing she's
like five feet in front of them they had to know
this was going to happen like they had to see
her shooting straight in front of them through
the three of them red is also reconnected with
snow we haven't seen how that happened but all
of a sudden they're together again and this is
a part i questioned that they actually did an
okay job explaining after this red has gone on
like this killing spree and has killed like a
bunch of mermen and she's like originally magda
said there was only a dozen mermen sent into
the gateway and they've killed at least like
20 and That's what I was thinking at this point.
I was just like, okay, they've killed so many
of these people. So she said, I sent a dozen,
maybe she sent more, whatever. No, it actually
comes out that Magda is sending more to kill
them. Because she just wants to kill them. She
wants them to be dead. She can't live with the
fact that they may come back. So she's keeping
the gateway open. And that's what I don't understand.
Like, close the gateway, destroy it. They can't
get back. If they can't get back, they can't
save the day. But she's kept it open because
she keeps sending them back to kill them. On
to Sleeping Beauty. Sleeping Beauty has chunked
through the box and there's now a hole and she
is able to get the merman watching over her.
She basically is able to control him with her
power. She like blows out the window or the chunk
she made like and now he's able to just open
the box and she He's just standing there in front
of her, and she just punches him and knocks him
out. She also finds that this guy has a grenade,
so she's like, perfect. This is a way to get
the attention of Fred and Snow. So she just throws
the grenade up in the air, and those two are
able to figure out, hey, it's Sleepy. Okay, they
can reconnect. Blue Flash, we're back in the
present. Magda grabs Rumpy again from the room.
And now he has one hour to make it happen. She
is pissed. And Rumpy's like, okay, I can do this.
I just need a little more time to prep it before
this hour. So Magda walks away. Rumpy's out of
the prison cell. And on Rumpy's shoulder, Alice
shows up because, you know, she's tiny. She talks
with him and finds out that Rumpy and the Queen
of Hearts run the underworld. and he also mentions
to her that like he's getting caught like he
doesn't have an actual plan and so he's going
to help alice get to the core and charming and
so alice is like great cool this is awesome thank
you for helping me they're going to get the core
so rumpy leads away it's a trap rumpy set up
alice and alice is now in the lair of magna But
luckily she has her watch. She's able to shrink.
She's able to get away, run out the window. So
again, we don't know what Rumpy's tricks are.
We don't know who he's helping. We don't know
what's going to happen. Okay. So yeah, Rumpy's
still the question mark. He's the oddball. We
don't know what happens. We know what everybody
else is doing. We don't know what he's doing.
So blue flash back to the past and our crew finds
Sleepy. This is great. And they also happen to
find these mermen that just got out of a portal.
They're able to kill them and jump into the portal
and escape to wherever that portal was. This
is the future. And they are at Lookingglass of
the future. The world is basically on fire. And
Lookingglass is kind of like shuttered down at
this point. There's not much happening. One of
the things I'm going to talk about right now.
is if you read a description of this movie so
i want to read you from the imdb page what this
movie is from the imdb page when rumbled stiltzkin
tries to take over earth once and for all the
avengers grim must track him down through time
in order to defeat him maybe i'm in the wrong
mindset here So when you say that you're trying
to track him down through time, I imagine that
you were like chasing after him through various
time periods. Very like Avengers Endgame where
you got the different stones from different time
periods. And it's okay if you don't go to a ton
or anything like that, especially because this
is supposed to be cheap, that kind of thing,
whatever. This is the only other place they go.
And it's just the same set, just a little more
distressed. so they are at looking glass of the
future and it just so happens charles is there
and he falls to his knees when he sees snow because
he thought she was dead and he lost his will
to fight and he gave up and he married magda
and magda now controls the land he also mentions
that magda kept sending mermen through the gateway
to kill them that's why she never destroyed the
gateway also there is Alice Alice has been kind
of working with Charles to try to fight her but
because the hatter died Alice is now pretty crazy
and she's like wearing his hat she's she's just
kind of cuckoo you know she's the mad hatter
now instead of just Alice and so it's just Alice
and Charles are at looking glass when Magda married
Charles she kind of threw him off to the side
because now she has his ring she doesn't need
anything more Charles gives Snow a map of Magda's
lair. And basically they're going to try to sneak
in. They're going to try to find how she uses
the gateway. And then they're going to try to
get back to the present. This is where my mind
started to wander on this movie. Because one
of the characters, Magda, wears all leather.
Like the entirety of the movie she wears all
leather. And it made me realize that there's
a lot of leather in this movie. Like a lot of
leather. But the thing that... made me think
about this was there was like a swimming part
do you know how weird it is to swim with leather
like i've never done it myself because i've been
told that it's crazy but yeah so she just wears
leather all the time even when she's swimming
very strange but whatever it's fine uh in this
future rumpy is still a prisoner but he's like
no older even though both charles and alice had
like old people makeup on and also magda's kind
of like also young looking using the map that
charles gave them the avengers grim they sneak
into the prison and they need to convince rumpy
to help them out and get the gateway they also
need to figure out how to open it and rumpy's
like no i'm not betraying her i'm not betraying
her she sees everything i see she's like in my
mind she's in my head and sleepy uses her magic
to convince rumpy to get the power core quickly
and quietly he gets caught immediately but luckily
red is following and kills one of the mermen
that caught him so you know quick and easy boom
red just once again killing people blue flash
we're in the present and alice is trying to get
into her own facility of looking glass but hatter
won't let her in because he's the hatter and
he's crazy and she convinces him to let her in
this was something i thought was going to be
a bigger deal no it wasn't it just was a joke
i guess because the hatter be the hatter and
it's tea time and so alice originally said she
wasn't going to drink the tea like earlier in
the movie no she's now going to drink the tea
She needs to figure out where these girls are.
And Hatter could only go to the past. He couldn't
see the future. And the description, the reasoning
behind it was that Hatter doesn't exist in the
future. So Alice agrees to drink the tea because
she thinks maybe she'll be able to find them
in the future. And this is basically like dreamwalking.
This is basically... what happens in multiverse
of madness which is kind of interesting because
i think this was before multiverse of madness
i can't remember my timeline exactly this is
2018 so let me just do a little quick uh multiverse
of madness uh that was 2022 so yeah this was
four years before multiverse of madness and she
basically does dreamwalking uh where she's able
to take over herself somewhere in the timeline
because of magic tea sorry um okay yeah so she's
dreamwalking and she ends up as the crazy hatter
Alice in the future which just happens to be
right place right time which is great because
she was able to talk to Charles even though Charles
is like a sad sack she was able to talk to Charles
and figure out that they were there they're getting
the power core they're coming back Rumpy was
able to get the power core at Magda's lair. Blue
Flash, we're back to the present. And Ruben Rumpy
is saying that Charles is about to get married
to Snow. This is great. Snow saved the day. They're
about to get married. Magda, no big deal. Not
part of the picture anymore. So all he has to
do is walk down the aisle. And Charles calls
him a good friend. And he's like, good friend,
thank you. And that definitely affects him. He
definitely feels something. Blue flash to the
future. Alice is setting up the gateway and can
use the power core they received. But Magda of
the future was able to, through Rumpy's mind,
see that they were there. And so she breaks into
the looking glass again. And she's able to kill
Alice. She found out from Rumpy. And she has
him on like a leash. This movie is very kinky.
She has him on a leash. magda is also able with
her trident to freeze the girl and threatens
to send them to the ice age because snow will
like the ice age that kind of joke rumpy is able
to sneak off at this point and charles is hiding
and charles says to him you had a chance to choose
heroism once but you chose villainy before you
have another chance to choose heroism again and
remember how i said like calling him a good friend
it kind of resonated with him that kind of thing
that exists in this timeline so rumpy definitely
feels it a little more so charles stands up goes
out to magda and basically gets attacked by her
trident and is like dying in the process but
it's to buy time so that rumpy can use the gateway
and send them all back While Snow is tied up
and is watching on. I think you guys are as smart
as me. I would hope you're as smart as me. It's
obvious that this is Rumpy as Snow. And that
it's not really Snow tied up. Because we never
saw anything like that. At the same time at Looking
Glass, Alice wakes up present day. And has taken
the medicine that Hatter has made for her. The
Avengers Grimm also show up to Magda's lair and
they break into the wedding. And Snow says, get
your scaly ass away from my man. So she goes
to take on Magda. Sleepy and Red are going to
take on the Mermen. Sleepy is awful at this.
And that's kind of like the whole bit is that
Sleepy is just not as good as the other two girls
at this. She's okay. But like Red, Red has murdered
everyone. And I guess this is supposed to be
like Black Widow, you know, kind of thing. But
Reddit has just like murdered everyone. Snow
is able to take out Magda easily. But then it
becomes a who is who moment. Because Snow ends
up in the same frame as Rumpy as Snow. And like
Charles has like, oh, but which one is the real
Snow? You know, that kind of thing. real snow
figures out the solution quickly she goes fuck
this and like goes to kiss charles and like big
old sloppy kiss kind of thing charles immediately
falls down to one knee to propose to real snow
but magda once again gets pissed blasts him apart
with her trident they're at separate parts now
but they can they can save the day if charles
finishes the proposal to snow So they both slow
motion dive and like slide on the floor to each
other. And he's like reaching out the ring. She
reaches out her hand and he slides the ring on
her finger. And it's no from Magda kind of thing.
And yeah, there you go. That's it. He places
the ring on Snow's hand. The spell is broken.
Magda loses. magda freaks out tries to kill charles
but he easily avoids it because she's just trying
to stab him with a trident and he's just kind
of like rolling on the ground like nope nope
nope nope but he's also like i can't hit a woman
snow steps up and goes but i can and punches
magda straight in the face magda then like screams
to a merman to destroy the city so the merman
sprint out the door and they're about to destroy
the city and they are immediately met by alice
Who has taken her medicine. And she is giant.
This is the Ant -Man giant version. And steps
on all of them with like two steps. Then giant
Alice grabs Rumpy. And just licks him into the
ocean. Just he's gone. So the Avengers Grimm
and Charles are forcing Magda back into the ocean.
And they just so happen to get there at the same
time. Rumpy has just crawled out of the ocean.
And Magda realizes he was trying to pull a fast
one. He was trying to be snow so that Charles
marries him as snow and he can control all the
land. So she wants revenge. She grabs Rumpy with
her help of her merman and they drag him to Atlantis
with her. So they're now back in Atlantis. Great.
Cool. Awesome. Immediately goes into a wedding
scene. This is snow and Charles's wedding. And
they have it on the beach of all things, like
right next to the ocean. You just dealt with
like merpeople. You just dealt with like the
queen of Atlantis and you're going to get married
by the ocean. Okay. I mean, whatever. Okay. Whatever.
At the end of this scene. snow is just kind of
like are you gonna send us back to our realms
and alice recruits all of them to looking glass
she said the world's gonna need the avengers
grim and she actually says it so this is the
first time it's actually said roll credits this
is the end of the movie that is avengers grim
time wars yeah um much worse than the first one
by a lot i have described this many a time it
is porn with a worse script that that is what
it is because like all the all the girls wear
like skimpy outfits there's the leather clad
there's the parts where rumpy's on a leash um
charming is kind of like busting through a shirt
kind of things you know that kind of stuff it
is porn essentially just with a worse script
and no actual nudity yeah um Let me give a rating
because otherwise I'm going to forget and then
I will talk about the points I actually have
about this movie. The rating is going to be .25
out of 5. .25 broken realm mirror pieces. That's
what I'll give it. .25 broken realm mirror pieces.
It is not a good movie. It is not. There are
some parts that are worth laughing at just because
it's like awkward and goofy. But it's not worth
laughing at because you actually are enjoying
what you're watching. This is a terrible movie.
It's what I come to expect from Asylum. So I'm
not going to like harshly grade it and say, oh,
wow, this is so bad because blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah. It's an Asylum film. I know what
I signed up for. I've done the first one. I know
it's going to be bad. I've done Atlantic Rim.
I know it's going to be bad. These are cheap
movies that if they turn a profit. It's easy
to turn a profit because they were made on a
shoestring budget. So all they have to do is
make their money back plus like another hundred
grand and they're happy and they can make the
next one and the next one and the next one and
the next one and the next one. They can probably
make for a successful mock buster three more
movies. That's how cheaply these movies are made.
And that's okay. I'm not mad at the asylum for
doing that. But I also have to hold it at the
same level and go, because they do that, these
are not going to be good movies, and I know that.
So that's the reason why I say, even though I'm
giving it a .25, it's not the worst .25 that
I've watched for this podcast. It's not a good
movie. I'm not telling anybody to watch this.
But knowing that it's ridiculous, knowing how
much alcohol I had going into it, I knew I was
going to laugh at it for the sheer fact that
it's awful. It's like the Sharknado movies. And
that is an exact fitting representation of the
asylum. The Sharknado movies, you know they're
going to be trash. You know it. But there's something
so goofy about them that they're kind of fun
to just turn on and turn your brain off for.
They're not good. They're never going to be good.
The acting, meh. The costumes, meh. The CGI special
effects, ugh. The fact that they go to two different
places, two different places, for the time wars
that they're going to be chasing Rumpelstiltskin
through in this description of the movie. It's,
yeah, it's terrible. It's terrible. It's not
quite as disappointing though as Multiverse of
Madness where you think you're going to go through
multiple multiverses and they spend five seconds
in each and just end up really in like two or
three. You know? This one, yes, it's disappointing.
They only ended up in two. But you can expect
that from a movie like this. In Multiverse of
Madness, you kind of want, hey, we're going to
go to all these different universes. We're going
to see all these different things and it just
ends up being three universes. okay cool great
whatever um but yeah so and then really actually
thinking about it i mean besides the scene where
they go through like 40 in a second do they really
go to more than just two multiverses i can't
even remember that's that's how it sucks because
of sam raimi and i love sam raimi but that's
how little that movie kind of made to me um i
can't remember how many universes they went to
it's disappointing like that this one yeah it's
disappointing but i would almost be a little
more offended if they tried to force another
time period into this because i just know it
would be a terrible cgi dinosaur that's chasing
after them so yeah it's you can say this is a
terrible movie you can i wouldn't expect anybody
to say different however It's goofy and it's
kind of fun in the weirdest way because you know
you're signing yourself up for a terrible movie.
And 8 % on Rotten Tomatoes is right. I don't
care what anybody says. It's right. That is a
good score for this film. How is this an 8 %
film that I would watch again while drunk with
friends versus an 8 % film that is... not as
fun i don't know i'm trying to think of what
to compare it to and the only thing i can keep
thinking about is multiverse of madness i would
rather watch this drunk with friends than trying
to make my friends sober watch multiverse of
madness is that a hot take i don't even know
if that's a hot take i i and i love marvel films
it's not that i wouldn't watch it again But I
think this one has more of that goofy factor.
Especially when you watch it with friends. And
so that's why it's disappointing that it's just
me talking about it. But yeah. So I think that
this film is not good. I don't recommend it.
But I could easily drunk watch this again with
some friends to laugh at. It's kind of the like
killer clowns from outer space. The Room. You
know all these movies that. are terrible but
you kind of want to watch it because intrigue
and because you know it's going to be bad so
you can laugh at it a little more i don't know
that's kind of my thought on this one um and
probably what my thought is about all these asylum
films i could talk about all these asylum films
because you're not going to any of these and
going oh this is going to be great you're going
to these and looking at them and going oh yes
mega piranha that's exactly what i want you know
what that is um what's the other one they have
there's another one oh the fast and the fierce
yeah um i mean it's it's yeah it's exactly what
it is it's cheap mock buster that honestly sounds
kind of fun to sit through um and it also remember
how i was saying like they happen to be coming
out at the same time it also leads to some fun
things where they release one thinking that this
is going to be like the next big thing so they
have a movie called american battleship which
is a parody of battleship and we all know how
battleship did um this one yeah this one probably
also not great You know, but that's what happens
when they try to guess on some of these, too.
There are a bunch of Asylum films that I kind
of want to do for the podcast, but I don't know
if people actually like when I do them because
they're ridiculous. I don't know. There are some
things that I think would be really fun to cover,
like Meth Gator. That sounds amazing. It's a
parody of Cocaine Bear, obviously, if you can
guess that. You know, there's some things that
I feel like would be fun to watch with this.
But maybe that's also a problem. Maybe that's
also what I shouldn't do. Because I do kind of
enjoy the cheesiness, the stupidness of these
movies. Maybe that's why it didn't go down so
well the first time we tried to do this. I don't
know. I'm speaking up my ass on this stuff. I
don't know. My main problems with this movie
are the acting. the writing the everything with
this movie everything everything was bad with
this movie i don't like that they only went to
two time periods and both of the time periods
were set pieces we already kind of saw or like
so like one of them was looking glass just destroyed
or magda's lair which was the same as it was
before you know that kind of thing or they went
to the castle and there's only really one room
you saw of the castle the rest of the time you
just ah You just saw red and snow in the woods.
Cheap, easy, go to the woods, film a couple of
scenes. You know, this is how they keep costs
down. It makes it disappointing when those are
the only places we went to though. I do want
to talk about something positive about this though.
I think it is very unique that they saw Avengers
coming out and they said, okay, we need our own
Avengers. We're going to do Avengers Grimm. It's
horrible execution. These are not. And especially
the things like the powers and stuff like that.
Some of this needs a little more like refinement
on that. But I do love the fact that they said,
OK, we need our own Avengers. Let's go fairy
tales. Done and done. I think that's a lot of
fun. I think that adds something to it. I like
that our crew is like Snow White, Sleeping Beauty
and Red Riding Hood. obviously again i think
it could have been better i even like rumpled
siltskin as a bad guy magda i have no clue what
that is except for just little mermaid um that's
the only thing i got because little mermaid wasn't
a grim fairy tale but it was a fairy tale so
like yeah i think they could have done better
with like that as a villain but rumpled siltskin
i think first one and this one kind of a fun
villain to have um even though again execution
not great that's avengers grim time wars um if
there are certain mockbusters you want me to
cover on future episodes of game for a movie
please let me know especially things like asylum
i again they're dumb but it is very much a movie
where i can just like kind of get drunk before
and watch yeah i'm down for that so Let me know
if there's any other mock busters you think I
should cover. What else I should cover this year?
We've got, I technically teased this beforehand,
but it's going to come out next. The Love Guru
is coming. I have it recorded. I need to edit
it. It's basically just, I did this because the
Thunderbolts came out this week and it was a
team up movie. So that was my idea was team up
movies. So why not cover Avengers Grimm, the
team up, you know? So yeah. That's the reasoning
behind this. This is why I was doing Avengers
Grimm Time Wars. And yeah, go see the Thunderbolts.
I've heard it's great. I haven't seen it myself,
but go see it and enjoy it. I hope everybody
enjoys whatever they're seeing with this lately.
And yeah, that's all I got on Avengers Grimm
Time Wars. That's all I've got on the Game for
a Movie podcast for this episode. Love Guru coming
soon. And I've been Mike with the Game for a
Movie podcast asking, are you Game for a Movie?
We will see you next time on the Game for a Movie
podcast. Bye.