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You know what that sound means? It's another

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episode of Game for a Movie where we ask, are

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you game for a movie? My name is Mike. I will

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be your host tonight. I have got a double feature

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for you tonight. It is two bad Nicole Kidman

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movies because one of them just recently came

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out. But of course, we're going to jump into

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what are we drinking? Well, it is 930 in the

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morning, so I am not drinking quite yet. I've

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got a big, tall Coca -Cola because I don't drink

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coffee. So, yeah. That's what I'm drinking, which

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is good that I'm getting this out of the way

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early because we've got two movies to cover.

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First things first, this was supposed to be about

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this movie, The Time Machine from 2005. Long

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story short, did you know that Hoopla, the app

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you can use with your library to check out things,

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has a daily limit of what you can check out?

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I found out that the hard way after I had done

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some preparation, you know, by drinking heavily

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before I was going to watch it. And I was in

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the mood where it was just like, okay, I can't

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watch The Time Machine. I'll find something else.

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So I found The Stepford Wives because I knew

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that Nicole Kidman had a movie coming out soon.

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As well as because it kind of follows the same

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theme. It was a remake. It was made around the

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same time. And it does have a little sci -fi

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aspect to it as well. I'm not going to give you

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like all of the trivia or anything like that.

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But I'm just going to give you some of the key

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points before we jump into the full movie. The

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Stepford Wives was written by Ira Levin and Paul

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Rudnick. Ira Levin looks like he was an actual

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author and playwright and composer. And so he

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wrote the book version of The Stepford Wives.

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And then this Paul Rudnick. basically converted

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it to the movie. Paul Rudnick had written for

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such movies as Sister Act and Sister Act 2, Adam's

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Family Values, In -N -Out, which is also where

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he worked for the first time with director Frank

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Oz. Frank Oz is the director of The Stepford

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Wives. Frank Oz has a hell of a filmography.

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He directed The Dark Crystal, The Muppets Take

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Manhattan, Little Shop of Horrors, Dirty Rotten

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Scoundrels, What About Bob, Muppet Vision 3D,

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The Indian in the Cupboard, In and Out, as I

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said before, Bowfinger, Stepford Wives, Death

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at a Funeral. And on top of all that, he also

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was the voice of Yoda and many, many, many, many,

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many of the Muppets. So you have definitely seen

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something with Frank Oz in it. You also may have

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seen something he's directed. So yeah, this is

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a pedigree. This is a pretty solid pedigree for

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this movie. And I'll start off by saying The

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Stepford Wives is not the worst movie I've seen.

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By far. I think I've seen a lot, lot worse. And

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part of what helps it in that aspect is the cast.

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This cast is insane. It is Nicole Kidman. Matthew

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Broderick, Bette Midler, Glenn Close, Christopher

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Walken, John Lovitz. We've got David Marshall

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Grant and Roger Bart. And we even have Faith

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Hill in this movie. This movie is an hour and

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33 minutes long. It's PG -13. It was released

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on June 11, 2004. And it currently sits critic

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score 26%, audience score 30%. So it does count

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for a bad movie. So let's jump into the details

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of the movie itself. As always, I'm going to

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give you everything that happens in this movie

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just so I can save you some time so you don't

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have to see it. So it starts with a speech from

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the EBS Network president. The EBS Network is

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a television network that runs a lot of reality

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shows and stuff like that. The president is Joanna

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Eberhardt, and she is played by Nicole Kidman,

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of course. Some of these shows, basically, they...

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send couples to spend a week with other people

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and decide if they can do better it is a show

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called i can do better uh which barbara on the

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show uh basically dumps her boyfriend hank because

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yes she can do better she's had sex with like

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five different guys uh this show is also hosted

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by billy bush so this aged horribly um but yeah

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you know both of the shows they showcased They're

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feminist shows. They're very female positive,

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that kind of thing. And this is the thing that

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Joanna wants to kind of establish. She wants

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to make these feminist programs and these female

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-led things. And after her speech is kind of

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wrapping up, Hank from I Can Do Better, the guy

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that got dumped, shows up to the speech and calls

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her out. And Hank also pulls out a gun and starts

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firing shots at Joanna. But she survives. We

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also learn that Hank shot Barbara and four of

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her five boyfriends. And because of that, they

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have a bunch of lawsuits they're facing. And

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the network can't cover these lawsuits, so they

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let Joanna go. So they don't have to deal with

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the ramifications of this show. Even though she

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pretends to be fine, she has a complete nervous

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collapse. And this is where Walter's introduced.

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Walter is the vice president of this network,

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played by Matthew Broderick, and also happens

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to be Joanna's husband. And he has quit the network,

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too, because he doesn't want to work there without

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Joanna. So they live in New York City right now.

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They are trying to make a new start. That's what

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Joanna kind of wants to do. She wants to step

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back from it all and make a new start. She convinces

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Walter to find somewhere else to live. They also

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have two kids, and they move to Stepford, Connecticut.

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When they're moving into their house, which,

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by the way, they didn't look at this house beforehand.

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They just kind of chose a house in a town and

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moved there. And they get introduced by one of

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the neighbors. It's Mrs. Wellington. Mrs. Wellington's

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full name is... Claire Wellington. Of course,

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how can I forget that? It's Claire Wellington

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and she is played by Glenn Close. She kind of

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walks them through it and shows them their new

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house. It's a smart house that does like the

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security. It talks to the fridge. It can also

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do things like test the commodes for blood sugar

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and everything else. Very strange, but you know,

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that's something that they wanted to address

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in this. And they also have a robo puppy. Getting

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used to the fact that she was fired and basically

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she just goes catatonic. So Joanna's just there

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like catatonic for a while, but all of their

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stuff magically gets moved in. Walter wants her

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to get out of the house. So Claire offers to

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take Joanna and show her around things like the

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men's club, which they don't go into obviously,

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but they do see that it's the men's club. And

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she also takes her to the Stepford day spa and,

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and the Stepford day spa are all the women of

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Stepford. And they all are, like, dressed up

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to the nines, like, dresses, that kind of stuff,

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while they're working out. And they do, like,

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pole workout exercises. That's what they were

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doing. Meanwhile, Walter is driving around, and

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he sees that these guys are, like, golfing, and

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their wives are, like, carrying everything behind

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them. He also visits the men's club, which is,

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like... A bunch of sports cars out front and

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that kind of thing. And this is our first kind

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of inclination that something's not feeling right

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about this so far. But we don't know exactly

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what. We can't exactly put our finger on it.

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Now, if you've seen a trailer or anything like

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that, you know there's something wrong with the

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wives of Stepford. There's something not quite

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kosher. Joanna keeps showing up to these things

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dressed in all black and she stands up. She stands

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out against the women because the women are wearing

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like these floral dresses and stuff, the bright

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colors, everything like that. And so at the 4th

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of July Fest, she meets one of the other people

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that just recently moved there, Bobby Markowitz.

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Bobby Markowitz is Bette Midler and John Lovitz

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plays her husband. John Lovett's character is

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Dave Markowitz. They had just moved to the area.

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Bobby is a well -respected author. And this is

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only kind of important later, but it is mentioned

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they are Jewish. It just needs to be said because

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there is a part later that actually deals with

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this. Not really. It's kind of a throwaway joke,

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but I just figured you need to know this information.

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We also meet Roger, who is an architect. Roger

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is played by Roger Bart. His name is Roger Bannister.

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And his husband, Jerry, Jerry Harmon, who's played

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by David Marshall Grant. Roger, just for stereotypes,

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is kind of the more feminine of the two of them.

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But yeah, they seem normal enough and everything

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like that. The Markowitz's are constantly bickering.

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That's that's constantly one of the things that

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happens. Roger and Jerry. You don't get it early

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on, but later you kind of realize Jerry doesn't

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want Roger to be as flamboyant as he is. He wants

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him to be a little more casual, especially because

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he is an attorney and he's a little more straight

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laced. You know, at this Fourth of July fest,

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there is a square dance going on. And everyone

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starts having fun. They're dancing. Glenn Close

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is like commanding everybody to do do -si -do,

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that kind of stuff. And then one of the girls

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starts like spinning and spinning and spinning

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and spinning and spinning. And she's like laughing

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the whole time. But she keeps spinning over and

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over and over again. This is Sarah. Sarah is

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played by Faith Hill. Our friends think maybe

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she's drunk. Maybe. Maybe it's just, you know,

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she had too much or something like that. Even

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though, I don't know if you've ever been drunk.

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I can't assume for you. But if you keep spinning

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like that, I would fall down. Especially drunk.

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But, you know, she eventually gets down to the

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ground. And then we get introduced to Mike. Mike

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is played by Christopher Walken. Mike is also

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Glenn Close's husband, Mike Wellington. He shows

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up to help her. And Joanna's like having questions

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about what happened. Cause she's just like, what

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the hell was that? What just went on? Walter

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kind of shoots her down as being like snide and

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suspicious of everything. And then he kind of

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threatens to end their marriage. Like after everything,

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after everything goes down there, they're talking

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that night and she's like, but like, who's this

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Mike guy? And like, why, why? Was he the only

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one helping her? Why didn't anybody else step

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up and that kind of stuff? And he's just kind

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of done with it. He thinks she's always suspicious

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of everything. And so he kind of threatens to

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end their marriage because she can't be trusting

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and she doesn't, she always needs to be suspicious

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of something. And so at this point I've just

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called it, it's gaslight the movie pretty much.

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Cause a lot of these moments you'll see Walter

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does a lot of like, oh if you can't trust this

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then i'm breaking up with you i'm ending this

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marriage you know and he kind of says that it's

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joanna's fault because she pushes the kids away

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she acts entitled their marriage is falling apart

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that kind of stuff and so after making her feel

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like complete shit threatening to end their marriage

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uh he gets to her degree to not wear black and

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dress a little more stepford so She agrees that

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she's been a little more standoffish because

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of just, you know, everything that's been happening

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and everything like that. So she agrees to try

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to be a little more Stepford. She dresses with

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more colors and she has Bobby and Roger at her

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house. She's like baking that kind of stuff.

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So Bobby, Roger and Joanna are all talking. About

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maybe they should go visit Sarah and see what

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happens. See if she's okay and everything like

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that. And so they go to Sarah's house. And the

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door is unlocked. And Roger kind of pushes it

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open. And they walk in. And she's obviously having

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sex. Like it's obvious she's having sex. While

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they are there, Roger finds like this remote

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marked Sarah. And he starts messing with buttons.

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This controls like she starts walking down the

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stairs, but then walking back up. And it also

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does things like controls her boob size because

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those grow and then shrink, grow and then shrink.

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And they realize that Sarah's kind of out there

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and they're just like, oh, no, we got to run

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away. Oh, God, she can't know that we heard her

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having sex. So they run away and go to Bobby's

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house. Bobby's house is a complete mess. Like

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this is just stuff strewn everywhere. And I also

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wanted to be known. She was watching Harvey Birdman

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attorney at law, which great. Good job, Bobby.

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I love that. They start talking about like all

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of the reasons why they moved to Stepford. They

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each have their own reason and they're going

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to give it a try and be happy. So like Joanna

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moved to Stepford for a new start. Bobby moved

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to Stepford to find writing inspiration again.

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And Roger doesn't feel as close with Jerry as

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he once did and wants to kind of like rekindle

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their relationship and see where things go, that

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kind of stuff. So they're all going to give it

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a shot. They're going to try to be happy. They're

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going to try to be a little more Stepford. Meanwhile,

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at the men's club, men's association. They have

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like video games. They have NASCAR on the TVs.

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And Walter is driving a robot like in like Robot

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Wars, like where they're smashing each other,

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that kind of stuff. And this is juxtaposed. There

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we go. There's a word. With the Stepford Book

00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:07.879
Club, which Bobby and Joanna go to. And the girls

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are. basically Joanna is talking about this like

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philosophical book. She read as her latest book,

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but that's not the book they're talking about.

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No. Claire says the book they're talking about

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is Christmas keepsakes and collectibles. And

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they still make it seem like it's July and they're

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reading a Christmas book. And like I said before,

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remember Bobby's Jewish. This all feels like

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it was set up to just. make a couple Jewish jokes

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at her expense. And then there's also like a

00:15:39.539 --> 00:15:42.080
singing practice of here comes Santa Claus where

00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:46.519
they make Bobby wear like reindeer antlers just

00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:48.320
because she's not going to sing. Here comes Santa

00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:51.440
Claus. Again, it goes back to the men's club

00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:57.480
and Walter won the robot wars. And one of the

00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:02.559
guys owes him 20 bucks. And so he called the

00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:05.759
one guy calls his wife in. And hits a button

00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:10.860
on this remote. And she basically becomes like

00:16:10.860 --> 00:16:14.759
an ATM and spits out $20 to him. Like this is

00:16:14.759 --> 00:16:17.960
the time where Walter learns what's going on.

00:16:18.179 --> 00:16:23.259
He knows now that some of the women have something.

00:16:24.139 --> 00:16:26.580
Don't know what. Don't know if all of them do.

00:16:26.740 --> 00:16:29.860
But he knows something. Especially because she

00:16:29.860 --> 00:16:33.259
just spit out like $20 out of her mouth. I don't

00:16:33.259 --> 00:16:35.200
know if it's the next day or it's sometime has

00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:38.620
passed. Joanna is really trying and she is decided

00:16:38.620 --> 00:16:41.179
to bake cupcakes for the kids while they're all

00:16:41.179 --> 00:16:43.940
off at summer camp. And she has baked like 4

00:16:43.940 --> 00:16:46.519
,000 cupcakes. There is cupcakes everywhere.

00:16:48.700 --> 00:16:52.059
Bobby comes over and is just like, did you bake

00:16:52.059 --> 00:16:53.860
enough kind of thing? You know, making jokes,

00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:57.659
that kind of thing. Dave comes with Bobby and

00:16:57.659 --> 00:17:00.120
Walter and Dave are going to head to their men's

00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:07.539
meeting. Joanna and Bobby are now, they're thrown

00:17:07.539 --> 00:17:09.440
off. They're just like, they go to this men's

00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:11.319
meetings all the time. What if we follow them?

00:17:11.740 --> 00:17:14.359
So they go and follow them. And they're appearing

00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:17.599
inside. And inside this meeting is also Roger

00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:21.460
and Jerry. The other men close the blinds so

00:17:21.460 --> 00:17:24.519
no one can see in. So Bobby and Joanna try to

00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:28.009
break into the second floor. They're kind of

00:17:28.009 --> 00:17:31.049
like exploring the second floor and Bobby says

00:17:31.049 --> 00:17:33.789
to her, she knows something's up. She goes, the

00:17:33.789 --> 00:17:36.009
women are all hot sex things and the men are

00:17:36.009 --> 00:17:38.029
all drooling nerds. Isn't that weird to you?

00:17:38.289 --> 00:17:41.009
And Joanna says, no, because I work in television.

00:17:42.450 --> 00:17:44.329
That's kind of accurate. I'm not going to lie.

00:17:44.849 --> 00:17:47.210
As somebody who works in television, that's hit

00:17:47.210 --> 00:17:51.769
a little too close to home. As they're sneaking

00:17:51.769 --> 00:17:54.289
around the second floor, they start to hear somebody.

00:17:54.470 --> 00:17:57.430
It turns out it's Roger. Roger catches the girls,

00:17:57.509 --> 00:17:59.490
but at least it was him and it wasn't the other

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men. You know, it was him. The other men are

00:18:03.049 --> 00:18:07.529
following behind Roger and he hides Joanna and

00:18:07.529 --> 00:18:11.450
Bobby and gets them like out of there. But when

00:18:11.450 --> 00:18:13.549
the men show up, they tell Roger that he is going

00:18:13.549 --> 00:18:16.109
to go in this room. He's going to look down and,

00:18:16.170 --> 00:18:19.150
you know, it's one of those lights on faces where

00:18:19.150 --> 00:18:21.329
he looks down and he's like shocked and there's

00:18:21.329 --> 00:18:23.210
this light in his face, but we don't know what

00:18:23.210 --> 00:18:27.210
he saw. It's been a couple days. Bobby and Joanna

00:18:27.210 --> 00:18:29.170
are starting to get worried because Roger hasn't

00:18:29.170 --> 00:18:33.029
contacted them in forever. So they go to his

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house to kind of like try to see what's up. And

00:18:36.950 --> 00:18:41.549
they knock over a trash can. And wouldn't you

00:18:41.549 --> 00:18:43.269
know it, in this trash can, it just so happens

00:18:43.269 --> 00:18:45.470
to have some of his favorite clothes and some

00:18:45.470 --> 00:18:47.869
of his favorite brands. And they're like, no,

00:18:47.990 --> 00:18:50.950
he wouldn't do this. No, he wouldn't get rid

00:18:50.950 --> 00:18:53.789
of his Versace suit and everything like that.

00:18:54.349 --> 00:18:59.569
There also is like a, I don't know, a festival

00:18:59.569 --> 00:19:02.549
or something happening downtown. So they go downtown

00:19:02.549 --> 00:19:05.630
and they see Roger and they kind of wave and

00:19:05.630 --> 00:19:09.089
he doesn't wave back. And Jerry kind of takes

00:19:09.089 --> 00:19:13.109
the reins and says, yes, my husband, he has decided

00:19:13.109 --> 00:19:16.529
he wants to run for state Senate. He's a gay

00:19:16.529 --> 00:19:19.329
Republican that I always wanted him to be, you

00:19:19.329 --> 00:19:22.410
know, and Joanna and Bobby are both like, no,

00:19:22.470 --> 00:19:26.049
he wouldn't do this. Basically, the joke is that

00:19:26.049 --> 00:19:28.410
it's a drab suit, and that's the reason why,

00:19:28.509 --> 00:19:31.309
not the fact that he went Republican all of a

00:19:31.309 --> 00:19:34.369
sudden. So it's not the real Roger. They know.

00:19:35.029 --> 00:19:37.369
And not only do they know, they both are starting

00:19:37.369 --> 00:19:41.630
to freak out. So Joanna has a plan. She's going

00:19:41.630 --> 00:19:44.130
to get the kids from summer camp, and they're

00:19:44.130 --> 00:19:50.769
going to leave. And Walter kind of catches on

00:19:50.769 --> 00:19:54.920
to this plan, and he locks the door. And is just

00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:57.160
pissed at her. And, like, again, gaslights her.

00:19:57.619 --> 00:19:59.680
You're never going to change. You don't trust

00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:02.279
anything. Just because Roger wanted to change

00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:05.000
for his husband doesn't mean he's all of a sudden

00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:08.279
a completely different person, you know? So,

00:20:08.299 --> 00:20:12.059
but he also says at the same time that they can

00:20:12.059 --> 00:20:14.400
go back to the city tomorrow if she wants. Like,

00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:17.180
he kind of relents a little bit and says they

00:20:17.180 --> 00:20:20.259
can go back to the city if she wants to. So they

00:20:20.259 --> 00:20:22.220
kind of go to sleep. She's thinking they're going

00:20:22.220 --> 00:20:26.230
to leave tomorrow. And Joanna gets woken up in

00:20:26.230 --> 00:20:28.390
the middle of the night by the robo puppy. The

00:20:28.390 --> 00:20:30.589
robo puppy has something in his mouth and she

00:20:30.589 --> 00:20:34.269
grabs it and it's a remote marked Joanna. And

00:20:34.269 --> 00:20:37.329
so this gets her to like go into full research

00:20:37.329 --> 00:20:40.890
mode. She grabs her computer and does some research

00:20:40.890 --> 00:20:42.869
on the other women of Stepford, trying to figure

00:20:42.869 --> 00:20:46.190
out who they were before they were in Stepford.

00:20:47.170 --> 00:20:51.210
And it turns out all of them are extremely successful.

00:20:51.819 --> 00:20:57.339
like extremely successful women and now that

00:20:57.339 --> 00:20:59.259
they're in stepford she's not seeing those same

00:20:59.259 --> 00:21:01.779
women you know it's not it's not the person that

00:21:01.779 --> 00:21:03.559
started their own company and made millions of

00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:05.680
dollars before they moved to stepford it's not

00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:10.079
the youngest female pilot in history you know

00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:15.200
that that kind of stuff and so she knows something's

00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:19.140
happening so she goes to bobby's house to try

00:21:19.140 --> 00:21:25.289
to Try to explain what she saw as well as get

00:21:25.289 --> 00:21:28.609
everything going so they can run away. And when

00:21:28.609 --> 00:21:31.250
she gets there, she gets into Bobby's place and

00:21:31.250 --> 00:21:34.509
it is spotless. Like there's no shit everywhere.

00:21:34.750 --> 00:21:37.849
It is completely spotless. Bobby is wearing a

00:21:37.849 --> 00:21:40.869
dress. She's a completely different person. And

00:21:40.869 --> 00:21:42.630
Joanna is just like, what happened to Bobby?

00:21:42.750 --> 00:21:45.549
What's going on? And as she's trying to convince

00:21:45.549 --> 00:21:48.809
Joanna to change, she accidentally sets her hand

00:21:48.809 --> 00:21:52.549
on fire. Which is this like terrible CGI out

00:21:52.549 --> 00:21:56.529
of nowhere. Like she doesn't seem to feel it,

00:21:56.569 --> 00:21:59.150
but it's just a CGI of her hand on fire. And

00:21:59.150 --> 00:22:02.509
now she knows this really isn't Bobby. Like there's

00:22:02.509 --> 00:22:07.670
no way this could be her. So she's now panicked.

00:22:07.769 --> 00:22:09.289
She needs to get out of there. She needs to get

00:22:09.289 --> 00:22:13.170
the kids from camp and she needs to go. So she's

00:22:13.170 --> 00:22:15.430
calling the camp. Apparently Walter has taken

00:22:15.430 --> 00:22:17.750
the kids out of day camp and seems to be using

00:22:17.750 --> 00:22:20.880
them kind of as a bargaining chip. So Joanna

00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:24.099
goes to the men's club where as she walks in,

00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:26.859
there's a family portrait of the new her waiting.

00:22:27.099 --> 00:22:30.839
You know, it's the blonde like step for dress

00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:33.279
and everything like that. Standing with this

00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:37.000
family portrait made of them. And then the men

00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:39.599
appear out of nowhere, like wearing their blazers

00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:43.279
and kind of circle around her. This is when Walter

00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:48.670
kind of finally breaks down and says, why? He

00:22:48.670 --> 00:22:51.230
wants to do this. She's just better than him

00:22:51.230 --> 00:22:54.869
at everything. And he feels under her and like

00:22:54.869 --> 00:22:58.829
she's always better than him at every last thing.

00:22:59.269 --> 00:23:02.410
And so that's what we learn about all these men.

00:23:02.529 --> 00:23:05.769
All these men are feeling belittled. So they

00:23:05.769 --> 00:23:07.890
change their women to support them. It's supposed

00:23:07.890 --> 00:23:10.369
to be them being supported, not the other way

00:23:10.369 --> 00:23:14.410
around. In order to show Joanna kind of what's

00:23:14.410 --> 00:23:18.410
going to happen, Mike hits a button. And there's

00:23:18.410 --> 00:23:21.589
a promotional video about what's going to happen

00:23:21.589 --> 00:23:23.529
and that she's basically going to become a robot

00:23:23.529 --> 00:23:28.309
controlled by her man and is going to be Stepford

00:23:28.309 --> 00:23:31.970
Wive forever. Also, we learn in a throwaway line

00:23:31.970 --> 00:23:35.289
that the men aren't actually like named their

00:23:35.289 --> 00:23:38.109
actual names. Mike, for example, used to work

00:23:38.109 --> 00:23:41.609
at Microsoft. So his real like name, we don't

00:23:41.609 --> 00:23:44.009
actually know. He's just calling himself Mike

00:23:44.009 --> 00:23:46.609
because he used to work at Microsoft. I don't

00:23:46.609 --> 00:23:48.990
know what Walter would be called because he worked

00:23:48.990 --> 00:23:53.890
at EBS. So I don't know what his name would be.

00:23:54.549 --> 00:23:59.390
But Joanna's pleading with Walter. She's on the

00:23:59.390 --> 00:24:02.029
verge of tears and she says, can they say I love

00:24:02.029 --> 00:24:06.690
you and mean it? This is real. This is who I

00:24:06.690 --> 00:24:11.029
am and everything like that. And Mike uses the

00:24:11.029 --> 00:24:14.170
remote again. and raises this column holding

00:24:14.170 --> 00:24:18.490
this stepford wife that joanna will become and

00:24:18.490 --> 00:24:21.369
so she has like one last real play she kisses

00:24:21.369 --> 00:24:25.130
walter very passionately and walter doesn't say

00:24:25.130 --> 00:24:29.049
anything and he walks to the column and joanna

00:24:29.049 --> 00:24:32.569
kind of realizes okay she's she's done so she

00:24:32.569 --> 00:24:37.890
walks the column too and so mike hits the button

00:24:37.890 --> 00:24:42.099
the column lowers and basically Walter's going

00:24:42.099 --> 00:24:45.019
to do the procedure and make her a Stepford wife.

00:24:46.660 --> 00:24:48.779
So now it flashes to a grocery store and all

00:24:48.779 --> 00:24:52.160
the Stepford wives are there. And then the like

00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:55.579
slow motion blonde Joanna rounds the corner.

00:24:56.299 --> 00:25:00.920
And this is it. She's gotten the Stepfordization.

00:25:02.420 --> 00:25:06.160
They get a special event thrown for them that

00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:09.710
is essentially like. It's almost like a new wedding

00:25:09.710 --> 00:25:13.769
kind of thing where they reunite them as robot

00:25:13.769 --> 00:25:18.029
and husband. And everybody starts waltzing and

00:25:18.029 --> 00:25:21.569
the perfect town remains perfect. Or so it seems.

00:25:22.269 --> 00:25:25.269
Because Walter sneaks away from the party and

00:25:25.269 --> 00:25:27.630
goes and finds where the actual wives are being

00:25:27.630 --> 00:25:30.670
kept. Or at least the computers, the chips, or

00:25:30.670 --> 00:25:32.509
whatever it is. We don't know exactly what he's

00:25:32.509 --> 00:25:33.490
looking for, but he's looking for something.

00:25:34.349 --> 00:25:37.700
And basically Walter... just starts hitting every

00:25:37.700 --> 00:25:40.660
button imaginable until he figures out how to

00:25:40.660 --> 00:25:43.359
reverse the effects of the chips. And so he's

00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:46.920
just slamming different buttons and stuff like

00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:49.160
that. And all of a sudden, he finds one that

00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:53.980
works. And the program gets deleted. For whatever

00:25:53.980 --> 00:25:58.119
reason, when the program gets deleted, the women

00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:01.579
glow. It's never addressed. They just start glowing.

00:26:02.650 --> 00:26:04.809
And like, it also doesn't, it's never addressed

00:26:04.809 --> 00:26:07.029
if you can see the glow, like if you're one of

00:26:07.029 --> 00:26:10.329
the men standing there. And this is all happening

00:26:10.329 --> 00:26:14.690
while Joanna has walked with Mike outside to

00:26:14.690 --> 00:26:18.210
distract him from everything going on. The women

00:26:18.210 --> 00:26:20.329
start reverting back to their old selves and

00:26:20.329 --> 00:26:23.490
they like grab the remotes and break them. And

00:26:23.490 --> 00:26:26.309
then Mike starts to realize something's going

00:26:26.309 --> 00:26:28.150
on. Like he starts hearing commotion and everything.

00:26:28.250 --> 00:26:32.019
He runs inside. Turns out. Yeah. Joanna was never

00:26:32.019 --> 00:26:36.279
a robot. She had been playing them all. Walter

00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:40.940
comes back from his mission and is like, I've

00:26:40.940 --> 00:26:43.140
been successful. This is great. Everything like

00:26:43.140 --> 00:26:47.640
that. And Mike is pissed because he knows his

00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:51.039
whole plan has been like his whole plan is ruined

00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:54.819
because of Walter. So he gets something to smash

00:26:54.819 --> 00:26:57.720
Walter with. But Joanna sees it coming and grab

00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:01.269
something and smashes Mike. Knocking his head

00:27:01.269 --> 00:27:07.490
clean off. Yes, Mike was a robot. And it was

00:27:07.490 --> 00:27:11.589
Claire the whole time that made him. Claire basically

00:27:11.589 --> 00:27:15.609
wanted a better world where men are men and women

00:27:15.609 --> 00:27:19.009
were loved and cherished. And she was also a

00:27:19.009 --> 00:27:21.009
successful woman before Stepford as well. She

00:27:21.009 --> 00:27:27.369
was a brain surgeon and an engineer. Even though

00:27:27.369 --> 00:27:30.230
she was this total package, Mike cheated on her

00:27:30.230 --> 00:27:34.589
with Patricia, her research assistant. So Claire

00:27:34.589 --> 00:27:37.609
murdered both of them and then decided she wanted

00:27:37.609 --> 00:27:41.130
Mike back, but wanted to make him a robot. So

00:27:41.130 --> 00:27:45.230
he couldn't leave her and she could make her

00:27:45.230 --> 00:27:49.150
world a better place. And one of the lines, this

00:27:49.150 --> 00:27:50.950
is coming from somebody who used to live in Connecticut.

00:27:51.049 --> 00:27:53.230
This is the best line of the whole thing. She

00:27:53.230 --> 00:27:55.809
goes, where would people not notice a town full

00:27:55.809 --> 00:28:03.369
of robots? Connecticut. That line got me so hard.

00:28:03.450 --> 00:28:07.529
I laughed so freaking hard. And after all the

00:28:07.529 --> 00:28:09.309
women were changed, then she was going to change

00:28:09.309 --> 00:28:11.109
the men. And it was just going to be this perfect

00:28:11.109 --> 00:28:13.150
world where everybody loved each other. Everybody

00:28:13.150 --> 00:28:17.400
was happy. basically claire was in control of

00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:22.119
it all well after this long speech she picks

00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:25.660
up mike's head she kisses it and she gets zapped

00:28:25.660 --> 00:28:30.900
with again bad cgi and grabs the head before

00:28:30.900 --> 00:28:36.859
she dies and dies so claire's been handled mike's

00:28:36.859 --> 00:28:39.380
been handled they fixed all the women in the

00:28:39.380 --> 00:28:42.940
town who they showed these bodies Like these

00:28:42.940 --> 00:28:45.660
robot bodies that they'd be put into. It seems

00:28:45.660 --> 00:28:47.599
like it's just a chip that was put in the real

00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:50.680
women. And then they were just controlled. I

00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:52.420
don't know why they showed these bodies that

00:28:52.420 --> 00:28:55.200
they were becoming or whatever. It wasn't a full

00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:58.619
robot. At least I don't think so. I don't know.

00:28:58.700 --> 00:29:01.160
Because then there's also the scene where Bobby

00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:03.400
burns her hand. And it's like, okay, if she was

00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.299
human, she would feel that. I don't know. Are

00:29:07.299 --> 00:29:09.420
they real robots? Are they humans with just this

00:29:09.420 --> 00:29:12.930
chip inside their brain? It doesn't really make

00:29:12.930 --> 00:29:15.349
sense. It's one or the other, not both, and it's

00:29:15.349 --> 00:29:19.529
both. But yeah. Then it closes with an interview

00:29:19.529 --> 00:29:22.890
on Larry King about all of their successes. Basically,

00:29:23.009 --> 00:29:27.750
Roger is back to who he was. He's designing this

00:29:27.750 --> 00:29:30.710
new building. Bobby has written a new book. And

00:29:30.710 --> 00:29:34.950
Joanna is starting a new station with Walter

00:29:34.950 --> 00:29:41.019
as her co -president, not vice president. And

00:29:41.019 --> 00:29:43.980
then all the other men are left in Stepford under

00:29:43.980 --> 00:29:46.279
house arrest. And it shows a scene of them all

00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:49.180
at the store kind of trying to figure out where

00:29:49.180 --> 00:29:51.619
certain things are at the grocery store. Because,

00:29:51.700 --> 00:29:56.019
you know, men are inept always. Yeah, that is

00:29:56.019 --> 00:30:01.099
the Stepford Wives. I told you already my problem

00:30:01.099 --> 00:30:03.299
with, like, are they robots? Are they humans?

00:30:03.380 --> 00:30:07.470
That kind of thing. And it's true. It is definitely

00:30:07.470 --> 00:30:09.849
a big plot hole because I don't know what it

00:30:09.849 --> 00:30:13.349
is. They showed the robot bodies like they were

00:30:13.349 --> 00:30:16.430
going to be made into robots. It also makes me

00:30:16.430 --> 00:30:18.109
wonder if they just like transferred the brain

00:30:18.109 --> 00:30:21.130
over or something like that. But then the way

00:30:21.130 --> 00:30:23.809
to solve everything was Walter just hit a couple

00:30:23.809 --> 00:30:26.529
buttons and it deleted the program, which says

00:30:26.529 --> 00:30:28.829
to me that it was a chip inside the women's heads.

00:30:29.309 --> 00:30:32.829
I don't know. I don't know which was which with

00:30:32.829 --> 00:30:38.799
that. So that's the biggest question I have after

00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:42.079
watching this movie. Now, I said before, this

00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:44.400
is not the worst movie I've seen. It actually

00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:49.200
is pretty okay for the most part. The issue that

00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:51.960
it comes across is there are many other movies

00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:55.500
that do this and they do it way better. And so

00:30:55.500 --> 00:30:57.619
even though some of the lines were funny, even

00:30:57.619 --> 00:31:02.900
though the acting was okay, I will say, so the

00:31:02.900 --> 00:31:05.099
acting was very over the top. Like, it's very

00:31:05.099 --> 00:31:09.099
emotional acting. And I kind of think it works

00:31:09.099 --> 00:31:12.900
for this, truthfully. Is it great? No. It's very

00:31:12.900 --> 00:31:15.259
hammy. It's very that kind of stuff. And seeing

00:31:15.259 --> 00:31:18.180
that Frank Oz, who works with a lot of Muppets,

00:31:18.180 --> 00:31:21.480
was the director of this, it makes sense a little

00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:26.240
bit. I enjoyed the overacting, though. I did.

00:31:26.339 --> 00:31:29.119
I think it works for this movie. Is it great?

00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:33.039
No. But I don't hate it. I know a lot of people

00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.039
are just like, oh, yeah, this is very ham -fisted

00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:39.099
acting. Yeah, I mean, this dude is used to acting

00:31:39.099 --> 00:31:41.400
for Muppets, you know, where everything is just,

00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:45.099
ah, that kind of stuff. I love the Muppets, just

00:31:45.099 --> 00:31:47.240
so we're clear. That also may be part of it,

00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:50.420
is the fact that I love the Muppets, so this

00:31:50.420 --> 00:31:56.660
felt good for me. I don't know. So, yeah, it's

00:31:56.660 --> 00:31:59.200
a lot of overacting, but truthfully, I think

00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:04.880
it works for this film. I said before, a lot

00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:06.420
of movies have done this and have done it better.

00:32:06.539 --> 00:32:08.519
I think you can find a million movies better.

00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:17.079
However, this is not terrible. There's a lot

00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.720
of things that I wish they would have focused

00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:23.420
more on the actual wives because we only saw

00:32:23.420 --> 00:32:26.400
bits and pieces of what they were doing. And

00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:29.849
it wasn't enough to scare me to be like. oh my

00:32:29.849 --> 00:32:33.430
god i'm becoming one of them truthfully some

00:32:33.430 --> 00:32:37.410
of the things they were doing kind of what women

00:32:37.410 --> 00:32:41.009
in communities do um you know they gossip they

00:32:41.009 --> 00:32:43.130
they have book clubs that kind of thing yeah

00:32:43.130 --> 00:32:45.589
they're not reading christmas keepsakes and collectibles

00:32:45.589 --> 00:32:49.390
but i've seen enough of these kind of towns where

00:32:49.390 --> 00:32:51.650
things like this happen where you know they have

00:32:51.650 --> 00:32:53.549
book clubs they have this day spa where they

00:32:53.549 --> 00:32:58.430
work out together and do classes and stuff None

00:32:58.430 --> 00:33:03.250
of it was so crazy that I'm going, oh, my God,

00:33:03.329 --> 00:33:06.009
don't make me one of them. And it's partially

00:33:06.009 --> 00:33:08.230
because they just didn't focus on that. I'm sure

00:33:08.230 --> 00:33:10.569
there's plenty of things that they could have

00:33:10.569 --> 00:33:12.930
focused on that would have made it, okay, I'm

00:33:12.930 --> 00:33:16.650
not an autonomous person. That's, I think, what

00:33:16.650 --> 00:33:18.369
the biggest deal was. I didn't feel there was

00:33:18.369 --> 00:33:22.630
that many stakes in this because I didn't feel

00:33:22.630 --> 00:33:27.759
like it looked that bad in comparison. yes losing

00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:31.440
my autonomy i would hate that that would not

00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:33.619
be okay and everything like that and i do think

00:33:33.619 --> 00:33:37.920
they did a good job of doing that but the stuff

00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.559
that they're like oh my god they're reading books

00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:43.380
together this is not our real people oh my god

00:33:43.380 --> 00:33:48.319
you know and okay you don't join a book club

00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:50.720
then some of these things you can just walk away

00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.599
from obviously this town wouldn't let you walk

00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:55.440
away from it and i'd like to see that where all

00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:57.990
of a sudden it's yeah i don't want to be in this

00:33:57.990 --> 00:34:00.450
book club anymore and all of a sudden the women

00:34:00.450 --> 00:34:03.349
start showing up at your door like why aren't

00:34:03.349 --> 00:34:05.369
you in the book club like that kind of stuff

00:34:05.369 --> 00:34:10.889
i think that would be better so again this movie's

00:34:10.889 --> 00:34:12.969
not terrible there's better movies out there

00:34:12.969 --> 00:34:17.929
um i'm going to give it this is probably what

00:34:17.929 --> 00:34:20.550
might be one of my higher rankings uh i'm going

00:34:20.550 --> 00:34:25.289
to give it a two out of five uh, remote controls

00:34:25.289 --> 00:34:29.769
found by a robo puppy. So yeah, that's, uh, it's

00:34:29.769 --> 00:34:32.849
not that bad. So that's the Stepford wives. I

00:34:32.849 --> 00:34:34.809
am going to take a quick break before I jump

00:34:34.809 --> 00:34:37.150
into the other bad Nicole Kidman movie that I

00:34:37.150 --> 00:34:39.090
watched for this podcast. Cause we got a double

00:34:39.090 --> 00:34:41.289
dip for you and I'm going to give a shout out

00:34:41.289 --> 00:34:44.130
and play the promo for watch it. If you can podcast,

00:34:44.210 --> 00:34:49.530
it is one of our new best friends in the podcast.

00:34:49.630 --> 00:34:54.380
Diverse is what I will say. Um, I think that's

00:34:54.380 --> 00:34:56.280
the best way to put it, right? Podcastiverse.

00:34:56.719 --> 00:35:00.199
It's Dave and Liam. They create box sets of their

00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:02.739
favorite movies and TV shows. They have a lot

00:35:02.739 --> 00:35:05.260
of great episodes. Their latest one that I've

00:35:05.260 --> 00:35:13.260
seen are films turning 25 in 2025. It's coming

00:35:13.260 --> 00:35:17.900
today as this episode releases about the Wonder

00:35:17.900 --> 00:35:21.980
Boys from 2000. So, yeah. definitely check them

00:35:21.980 --> 00:35:24.199
out here is their promo and congratulations Dave

00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:27.260
and Liam for getting this correct and their account

00:35:27.260 --> 00:35:30.380
is run by Kenny as well so Kenny also great job

00:35:30.380 --> 00:35:32.539
because I'm guessing you were part of this as

00:35:32.539 --> 00:35:35.039
well so here you go the watch it if you can podcast

00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.699
we've had them before on the show to do this

00:35:37.699 --> 00:35:42.780
promo here it is again enjoy Dave Liam it's a

00:35:42.780 --> 00:35:49.320
trailer watch it if you can podcast Join us for

00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:51.820
each episode as we create box sets of our favourite

00:35:51.820 --> 00:35:54.659
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00:35:54.659 --> 00:35:57.019
see what else they've been in along with any

00:35:57.019 --> 00:35:59.920
recommendations. We pick our favourite characters,

00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.519
performances, moments and highlights from the

00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:05.000
soundtrack too. We ask if there's anything to

00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:07.340
make it better and look at the lasting legacy

00:36:07.340 --> 00:36:10.199
of our pick. We have a little fun with our quick

00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:12.739
fire round and finally, what else would you like

00:36:12.739 --> 00:36:15.679
list based on themes from the episode? Maybe,

00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:24.929
just maybe. You should watch it if you can. What

00:36:24.929 --> 00:36:27.190
if they've already seen it? Well, you can watch

00:36:27.190 --> 00:36:30.489
it again if you can. That is the Watch It If

00:36:30.489 --> 00:36:33.349
You Can podcast. Enjoy them. Please check them

00:36:33.349 --> 00:36:35.630
out after our episode, of course. But definitely

00:36:35.630 --> 00:36:38.070
check them out. We love them. They are great.

00:36:39.610 --> 00:36:43.869
Yeah. Okay. We've got one more dazzling image

00:36:43.869 --> 00:36:47.190
on a silver screen for you. It's a double dip

00:36:47.190 --> 00:36:50.150
because Nicole Kidman's latest movie, Holland,

00:36:50.449 --> 00:36:56.150
yeah, it is not good. Holland is a 24 % critic

00:36:56.150 --> 00:36:59.429
score and a 24 % audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.

00:36:59.429 --> 00:37:03.210
Perfect 24 on that one. The director is Mimi

00:37:03.210 --> 00:37:07.510
Cave. Mimi Cave is known for directing Fresh

00:37:07.510 --> 00:37:11.150
from 2022. If you have not seen that one, that

00:37:11.150 --> 00:37:17.579
is a fantastic movie. We'll say this is probably

00:37:17.579 --> 00:37:19.840
not Mimi Cave's fault. I think she actually did

00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:24.880
a decent job with directing it. That being said,

00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:30.079
Holland, not great. And no, this is not about

00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:33.019
the country Holland. This is about Holland, Michigan.

00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:35.519
So here we go. We're going to talk about Holland.

00:37:35.579 --> 00:37:39.400
Holland starts with... A overview of Holland,

00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:43.199
Michigan. And mostly the tulips and the windmill

00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:45.619
and everything like that. And it's a voiceover

00:37:45.619 --> 00:37:47.820
by Nancy, our main character, played by Nicole

00:37:47.820 --> 00:37:50.599
Kidman. And how she moved to Holland because

00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:53.800
she just reached the end of her rope and she

00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:56.260
found Fred. They also have a kid named Harry

00:37:56.260 --> 00:37:59.440
together. Fred is played by Matthew McFadden.

00:38:00.260 --> 00:38:08.019
And it starts with a missing earring. So Nancy

00:38:08.019 --> 00:38:12.099
is trying to find her earring. She can't find

00:38:12.099 --> 00:38:15.320
where it is. And she blames Candy. Candy is the

00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:18.639
babysitter of Harry. And she calls Candy out

00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.159
for stealing. And it turns out that Candy did

00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:24.880
steal, but bacon, not an earring. So it's not

00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:28.780
that really a big deal because truthfully, she

00:38:28.780 --> 00:38:31.440
didn't steal the earring. Harry, of course, is

00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:33.579
now pissed at Nancy because she kicked Candy

00:38:33.579 --> 00:38:36.769
out of the house. So he calls Fred to complain.

00:38:38.230 --> 00:38:40.909
Fred basically says they'll talk about it when

00:38:40.909 --> 00:38:44.590
he gets home. He is an optometrist and he is

00:38:44.590 --> 00:38:47.929
finishing his day. And then when he gets home,

00:38:48.030 --> 00:38:51.469
Fred and Harry go to the garage where they are

00:38:51.469 --> 00:38:54.269
making like a toy town with a train going through

00:38:54.269 --> 00:38:57.329
it, everything like that. At this early in the

00:38:57.329 --> 00:38:59.849
movie, they have said the word Holland 40 times,

00:38:59.849 --> 00:39:02.030
I feel like. So if I were drinking for every

00:39:02.030 --> 00:39:05.179
time they said Holland, I would be. hammered

00:39:05.179 --> 00:39:09.659
um at dinner where she made a meatloaf by the

00:39:09.659 --> 00:39:13.760
way i'm just calling that out now uh fred gets

00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:15.719
mad at nancy because she didn't even look for

00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:18.539
the earring before she just like dismissed candy

00:39:18.539 --> 00:39:24.320
and you know it just kind of shows their relationship

00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:29.960
it's just kind of again it feels like fred is

00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:32.860
a little more controlling and i think Nancy has

00:39:32.860 --> 00:39:36.400
let that happen almost because of whatever she

00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:39.539
dealt with in the past. We never learn what her

00:39:39.539 --> 00:39:42.400
history is. We just know that she found Fred

00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:45.380
and decided to pick up everything and go to Holland,

00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:48.960
Michigan. Fred also announces at this dinner

00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:51.400
that he is going to a conference and he's going

00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:55.199
to be away for the night. Apparently he goes

00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:57.440
to a lot of conferences. This is a common thing

00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:01.730
for this optometrist. We learn that Nancy is

00:40:01.730 --> 00:40:05.130
a home ec teacher and we also meet Dave Delgado.

00:40:05.309 --> 00:40:09.030
Dave Delgado is played by Gail Garcia Bernal.

00:40:09.429 --> 00:40:11.570
I don't know if I pronounced that completely

00:40:11.570 --> 00:40:16.510
correct, but I tried. They're like work besties

00:40:16.510 --> 00:40:19.010
and they walk together at the school, like around

00:40:19.010 --> 00:40:22.469
the track and stuff like that. And while they're

00:40:22.469 --> 00:40:24.769
walking and talking about the fact that Fred

00:40:24.769 --> 00:40:28.829
has another conference and Harry's mad because

00:40:28.829 --> 00:40:33.659
candy. stole or candy got dismissed because nancy

00:40:33.659 --> 00:40:36.599
thinks she stole an earring um there's a truck

00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.840
that keeps revving like at the school just keeps

00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:45.360
and dave tells her that it's the former bus driver

00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:51.139
uh squiggs i need to pull up his full name but

00:40:51.139 --> 00:40:56.659
squiggs squiggs growman played by jeff pope So

00:40:56.659 --> 00:40:59.320
Squiggs got fired because they smelled booze

00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.139
on his breath and he used to be the bus driver.

00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:06.679
And that's kind of all we deal with right now.

00:41:09.900 --> 00:41:13.219
Nancy goes to pick up Harry after school and

00:41:13.219 --> 00:41:16.980
Harry wants to go to a sleepover. And Nancy's

00:41:16.980 --> 00:41:18.639
kind of upset because she's like, well, while

00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:20.440
your dad's gone, I thought we'd do pizza and

00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:22.719
a movie. And she has Little Caesars and a blockbuster

00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:27.820
movie. Love it. Harry, of course, wants to go

00:41:27.820 --> 00:41:31.019
to sleepover. Nancy kind of realizes that Harry's

00:41:31.019 --> 00:41:33.760
growing away a little bit, so she lets him go

00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:38.239
to the sleepover. And she starts watching the

00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:41.280
movie, and then she's alone and she's bored,

00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:44.059
so she starts looking for the earring. And as

00:41:44.059 --> 00:41:46.340
she's looking, she goes into the garage where

00:41:46.340 --> 00:41:49.659
the toy train and the town are, and she finds

00:41:49.659 --> 00:41:53.360
a box that maybe she shouldn't see. including

00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:57.139
in this box is polaroid film not the pictures

00:41:57.139 --> 00:42:01.139
but polaroid film and a parking ticket for madison

00:42:01.139 --> 00:42:04.780
wisconsin which she's never been to and at that

00:42:04.780 --> 00:42:08.300
time fred was supposed to be in fort wayne she

00:42:08.300 --> 00:42:11.800
starts thinking maybe fred's cheating on her

00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:14.420
maybe fred's having an affair and she tells dave

00:42:14.420 --> 00:42:20.099
the next day and dave is kind of like Why would

00:42:20.099 --> 00:42:22.659
he do that? He has you and he would be so lucky

00:42:22.659 --> 00:42:27.480
and, you know, essentially hitting on her. It's

00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.400
kind of a little strange when, you know, your

00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.199
best friend is telling you her husband might

00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:34.019
be having an affair and you start hitting on

00:42:34.019 --> 00:42:37.420
her immediately. But, you know, do you? There's

00:42:37.420 --> 00:42:40.980
another meal. And again, it is meatloaf. So I've

00:42:40.980 --> 00:42:43.119
seen two meals and both of them have been meatloaf.

00:42:44.340 --> 00:42:46.659
Fred at this dinner announces he has another

00:42:46.659 --> 00:42:49.519
trip. And it's going to be three days. And he's

00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.099
going to be in Greenville. And Nancy kind of

00:42:52.099 --> 00:42:54.059
gets like passive aggressive about it. She's

00:42:54.059 --> 00:42:58.840
like not happy about it. And part of it is because

00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:01.860
she thinks he's cheating on her. And part of

00:43:01.860 --> 00:43:06.380
it is just because he's always gone now. So she's

00:43:06.380 --> 00:43:09.280
like sulking about it. And Fred confronts her.

00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:11.960
And just trying to figure out what the deal is.

00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:15.059
And one of the things they keep talking about

00:43:15.059 --> 00:43:17.329
is that. When they have things like this, they

00:43:17.329 --> 00:43:19.829
just hit the reset button and they restart and

00:43:19.829 --> 00:43:24.349
it's okay. And they should do that now. And then

00:43:24.349 --> 00:43:26.130
instead of like, you know, kissing her or whatever,

00:43:26.269 --> 00:43:30.130
he boops around the nose, which is so cringy.

00:43:30.389 --> 00:43:33.510
It's just so cringy. And then he goes and makes

00:43:33.510 --> 00:43:37.210
poppin' milk. I don't know what poppin' milk

00:43:37.210 --> 00:43:40.650
is, but he makes poppin' milk. So that night,

00:43:40.789 --> 00:43:43.800
Nancy can't sleep. And she starts looking at

00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:45.659
all the stuff in the box and she starts taking

00:43:45.659 --> 00:43:48.440
pictures of it all. She wants this evidence and

00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:50.699
everything like that. She hears a noise from

00:43:50.699 --> 00:43:54.739
outside and it's a raccoon. She then starts to

00:43:54.739 --> 00:43:57.739
see Harry, who's like running around wearing

00:43:57.739 --> 00:44:01.159
this like Dutch outfit. He runs down the street.

00:44:01.550 --> 00:44:04.889
and disappears and she's in the middle of the

00:44:04.889 --> 00:44:06.849
town and all of a sudden like all these bodies

00:44:06.849 --> 00:44:09.849
of dutch people are like around her and then

00:44:09.849 --> 00:44:12.829
she starts sinking into the street and it's a

00:44:12.829 --> 00:44:15.550
dream and i was just kind of like is this a like

00:44:15.550 --> 00:44:17.510
mental breakdown something like that what's going

00:44:17.510 --> 00:44:21.269
on uh it's the next day and we see squiggs's

00:44:21.269 --> 00:44:26.289
kid sean sean is in dave's shop class and dave's

00:44:26.289 --> 00:44:29.599
kind of Like he sees like a bruise or something

00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:31.019
like that. And he's wondering if Sean's getting

00:44:31.019 --> 00:44:35.280
hit at home. And basically he calls child protective

00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:38.860
services to make sure everything is okay. He's

00:44:38.860 --> 00:44:41.920
telling this to Nancy while they're at a diner,

00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:47.440
basically having a meal together. And at the

00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:50.139
same time, Nancy is convincing Dave that they're

00:44:50.139 --> 00:44:52.420
going to break into Fred's office to find the

00:44:52.420 --> 00:44:55.570
Polaroid pictures. While she is trying to convince

00:44:55.570 --> 00:44:58.909
him, she grabs his hands, and it's kind of awkward.

00:44:59.010 --> 00:45:02.530
It's like a touch like they're getting a little

00:45:02.530 --> 00:45:08.369
closer than just friends at this point. He has

00:45:08.369 --> 00:45:11.090
an optometrist appointment, and so she comes

00:45:11.090 --> 00:45:14.050
up with a plan that he's going to find a little

00:45:14.050 --> 00:45:17.690
thing to keep the bathroom window open at the

00:45:17.690 --> 00:45:21.349
optometrist's so they can sneak in later and

00:45:21.349 --> 00:45:24.460
get in. without it looking like it's open they

00:45:24.460 --> 00:45:27.139
also are communicating through old nokia phones

00:45:27.139 --> 00:45:31.199
and it's making me very nostalgic so dave shows

00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:35.599
up for his appointment uh basically he does the

00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:39.840
thing and he has great vision and then he wants

00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:42.199
to go to the bathroom but before he can do that

00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:48.019
fred dilates his pupils and so he goes into the

00:45:48.019 --> 00:45:53.079
bathroom to try to put the thing in the window

00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.739
to keep it open he drops the thing because he

00:45:55.739 --> 00:45:57.980
can't really see and he figures out a different

00:45:57.980 --> 00:46:00.000
way but he gets it open that's all that matters

00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:03.420
it's kind of open whatever he's also freaking

00:46:03.420 --> 00:46:06.719
out because he saw a cop and he wants to cancel

00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:11.420
the break -in and he like runs off away from

00:46:11.420 --> 00:46:15.000
the cop and basically you know he's running down

00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:16.659
the street and the cop chases after him saying

00:46:16.659 --> 00:46:19.440
hey hey hey come back here come back here he's

00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:21.630
freaking out Well, it turns out he left his jacket

00:46:21.630 --> 00:46:24.050
and the cop just gives him his jacket and just

00:46:24.050 --> 00:46:26.750
begs him not to drive while his pupils are dilated.

00:46:27.389 --> 00:46:30.210
So he gets into the car. Nancy joins in the car

00:46:30.210 --> 00:46:34.170
and he wants to cancel the break in. He's not

00:46:34.170 --> 00:46:36.230
OK with the same war because he has a past. He

00:46:36.230 --> 00:46:43.550
has a history. But Nancy convinces him to want

00:46:43.550 --> 00:46:46.150
to help out again. And because he's all of a

00:46:46.150 --> 00:46:48.090
sudden feeling high and mighty, he kisses Nancy.

00:46:49.070 --> 00:46:52.190
This is the first time I think this, and I thought

00:46:52.190 --> 00:46:55.130
it many times during this film. You're trying

00:46:55.130 --> 00:46:58.150
to prove that your husband is having an affair

00:46:58.150 --> 00:47:02.489
and that you should leave him. And you do that

00:47:02.489 --> 00:47:07.130
by getting help from a guy that you're obviously

00:47:07.130 --> 00:47:11.989
attracted to and having an affair. Am I following

00:47:11.989 --> 00:47:14.269
that correctly? Am I on the right track on that?

00:47:14.489 --> 00:47:18.320
Okay. So that night he helps Nancy get into the

00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:22.460
office and then he keeps watch. And of course,

00:47:22.460 --> 00:47:25.199
as she's in there, Fred gets called about an

00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:27.519
optometrist emergency and is going to the office.

00:47:28.059 --> 00:47:32.059
This optometrist emergency is Gwen, who Nancy

00:47:32.059 --> 00:47:34.760
had already lied about. She was going to take

00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:38.059
a trip with Gwen to Zingerman's to get some kind

00:47:38.059 --> 00:47:42.179
of special cheese or something like that. Gwen's

00:47:42.179 --> 00:47:44.420
son basically just got a contact stuck in his

00:47:44.420 --> 00:47:47.760
eye. He needs help to get it out. She's in the

00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:51.940
office. She finds a safe, gets it open easily,

00:47:52.099 --> 00:47:55.480
and discovers multiple credit cards along with

00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:59.019
a scrapbook of photos. One of the photos in there

00:47:59.019 --> 00:48:02.860
is about a woman that is running for bologna

00:48:02.860 --> 00:48:09.059
queen of Michigan. It's nothing really that stands

00:48:09.059 --> 00:48:12.059
out, but that's just an important detail for

00:48:12.059 --> 00:48:15.340
later. All this time, she's also getting called

00:48:15.340 --> 00:48:19.019
on her Nokia by Dave, who sees that they're there.

00:48:19.780 --> 00:48:24.239
And basically, she misses the first call. Then

00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:26.699
she answers the second one. She rushes all the

00:48:26.699 --> 00:48:28.900
stuff back. And then she tries to make it out

00:48:28.900 --> 00:48:31.420
the window in Fred's office. It's one of those

00:48:31.420 --> 00:48:34.880
situations where Fred hears something in the

00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.980
office. He goes to open the door, drops the keys,

00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.719
opens the keys. And then once he gets through

00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:44.809
the door. Nothing's changed in the office. But

00:48:44.809 --> 00:48:48.210
he's kind of like looking around and he finds

00:48:48.210 --> 00:48:54.789
an earring. The earring. Fred also talks to Gwen

00:48:54.789 --> 00:48:58.690
after they help her son and is kind of like,

00:48:58.710 --> 00:49:00.710
I'm sorry, I hope I didn't make you cancel the

00:49:00.710 --> 00:49:04.050
trip early to Zingerman's and stuff. She goes,

00:49:04.170 --> 00:49:06.429
I'm not going to Zingerman's. Not at $2 .50 a

00:49:06.429 --> 00:49:11.199
gallon. And so now Fred knows. She lied about

00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:13.880
hanging out with Gwen, and the earring is there,

00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:18.840
so he kind of knows she was in his office. Dave

00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:20.639
and Nancy, meanwhile, go back to Dave's place,

00:49:20.780 --> 00:49:24.619
and you better believe it, they have sex. As

00:49:24.619 --> 00:49:27.219
they are having sex, Squiggs and Sean show up

00:49:27.219 --> 00:49:29.239
at his door and call him a bunch of racist things.

00:49:29.539 --> 00:49:31.920
He runs out there with a baseball bat and handles

00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:35.500
his own, pushes Squiggs over, and smashes the

00:49:35.500 --> 00:49:39.900
window, and comes back in. And then he starts

00:49:39.900 --> 00:49:42.699
like panicking and he's going, Nancy, I can't

00:49:42.699 --> 00:49:44.619
just be a side piece. You either need to commit

00:49:44.619 --> 00:49:48.000
to me or you need to end things with your husband

00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:51.900
or I just I can't do this like this. Of course.

00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:56.019
Nancy doesn't commit and doesn't end things with

00:49:56.019 --> 00:50:00.480
Fred because she he says exactly right. She wants

00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:04.320
that like perfect life, but then also have that

00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:07.559
cake on the side like she wants to be the front

00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:11.260
row. at church she wants to be the person at

00:50:11.260 --> 00:50:13.440
the pancake breakfast that's serving everybody

00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:15.780
but she also wants a little bit of excitement

00:50:15.780 --> 00:50:19.179
on the side he's exactly right like he he called

00:50:19.179 --> 00:50:22.599
it nailed it off the beginning so she goes home

00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:25.179
after not committing to anything and they just

00:50:25.179 --> 00:50:27.980
are going to be friends again and she has the

00:50:27.980 --> 00:50:30.679
dream again but she wakes up on the couch and

00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:33.780
fred is there waiting and he basically said like

00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.159
Oh, how was Zingerman's? How was Gwen? And she

00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:40.000
goes, oh, I brought some, like, pastries back,

00:50:40.219 --> 00:50:45.559
but Gwen ate it on the way home. And she got

00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:49.260
caught, basically. He knows something's up. He

00:50:49.260 --> 00:50:51.099
doesn't let anything happen at this point. He

00:50:51.099 --> 00:50:52.900
just kind of is, like, brushing it off, whatever.

00:50:55.019 --> 00:50:58.239
As he goes to mow the lawn, she calls one of

00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:00.159
the credit card companies and finds out that

00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:04.880
he had a $300 transaction. at a jeweler he's

00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.599
like oh bought it for his mistress or something

00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:13.159
that kind of thing and as she's doing this she

00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:15.920
also finds in the jar of buttons like the extra

00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:19.219
buttons that her earring was in there and she

00:51:19.219 --> 00:51:20.840
kind of hides it because she doesn't want to

00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:24.860
admit she was wrong well the purchase at the

00:51:24.860 --> 00:51:27.320
jewelers was a jewelry box that is currently

00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:31.659
waiting for her on the bed And basically it had

00:51:31.659 --> 00:51:34.139
a good lock so that she could lock her jewelry

00:51:34.139 --> 00:51:38.119
up. And Fred shows up behind her as she's sitting

00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:41.179
there and admits that he found the one earring

00:51:41.179 --> 00:51:43.940
at the office and that he was there with Gwen

00:51:43.940 --> 00:51:48.920
and her son and knows that she lied. But because

00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:51.320
they do the reset button, he is willing to forgive

00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:53.599
her with no questions asked and they can start

00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:58.039
fresh again. So now Nancy's kind of more committed

00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:01.909
to Fred. They're back as a couple. And, like,

00:52:01.989 --> 00:52:04.889
they're hanging out at the church pancake breakfast.

00:52:05.389 --> 00:52:09.710
And she sees somebody smile at her, and all she

00:52:09.710 --> 00:52:13.230
can think of is Dave. And they're kind of going

00:52:13.230 --> 00:52:15.510
through, like, they do their things and everything

00:52:15.510 --> 00:52:18.630
like that. And that ends with a scene where Fred

00:52:18.630 --> 00:52:21.070
and Nancy are having sex. But Nancy's just kind

00:52:21.070 --> 00:52:23.610
of, like, starfishing there. And then she rolls

00:52:23.610 --> 00:52:26.329
over after he's done and masturbates thinking

00:52:26.329 --> 00:52:30.440
about Dave. So they talk on the phone. and Nancy

00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:33.219
says she's going to leave Fred. She feels trapped

00:52:33.219 --> 00:52:35.400
in this relationship. It doesn't feel like she

00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:37.679
loves him anymore, and she wants to be with Dave.

00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:41.599
Dave's unsure that it will work together. She

00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:47.179
can't just leave her perfect life and end up

00:52:47.179 --> 00:52:49.480
with Dave. She can't do that. That's not how

00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:52.820
it's going to work. Plus, Fred is like the deacon

00:52:52.820 --> 00:52:54.800
at the church. He's not the deacon at the church,

00:52:54.860 --> 00:52:57.880
but he's a big part of the church. Fred is a

00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:00.940
very good guy. He's big into a lot of the things.

00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:03.800
He is going to probably win custody of Harry

00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:07.559
if she leaves him. And she doesn't want to lose

00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:12.199
Harry. So Dave agrees that he's going to follow

00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:15.719
Fred on his next trip and photograph him having

00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:17.699
an affair. And they're going to blackmail him

00:53:17.699 --> 00:53:21.719
so he signs over the rights to Harry and they

00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:25.920
can be together. And Nancy is kind of like, I

00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:29.599
can't make you do that alone. And then she joins

00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:36.000
him. So she gets Harry to stay over at a friend's

00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:39.159
house and they start following him on this trip

00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:42.260
to Greenville. Fred keeps stopping at these stores

00:53:42.260 --> 00:53:44.579
and he's buying things like a couple things here,

00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:45.920
a couple things there, a couple things here.

00:53:46.099 --> 00:53:48.260
They need to figure out what's in these bags.

00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:53.369
So she texts him. And it's kind of like, oh,

00:53:53.570 --> 00:53:55.849
what's your room in case I want to call you tonight?

00:53:56.130 --> 00:53:57.750
You know, because I don't want to use minutes.

00:53:57.909 --> 00:54:02.369
Wow. Yeah. So he says, oh, it's room 307 at this

00:54:02.369 --> 00:54:04.550
hotel. You can call me whenever that kind of

00:54:04.550 --> 00:54:08.369
thing. So he goes and leaves to go to the hotel

00:54:08.369 --> 00:54:12.130
bar, which Dave is following him. And Nancy does

00:54:12.130 --> 00:54:16.070
the wifely thing and says basically like, oh,

00:54:16.250 --> 00:54:19.230
my husband, he didn't get me or he left the key.

00:54:19.329 --> 00:54:22.860
Can I get a. key to this room and she goes into

00:54:22.860 --> 00:54:26.960
his room one of the things that's funny is fred

00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:29.960
is at the bar just like laying all of his problems

00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:33.199
on the bartender and nancy is going through his

00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:38.760
room and nancy finds handcuffs underwear and

00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:43.500
puppy treats dave texts her or calls her again

00:54:43.500 --> 00:54:47.059
and says that he's on his way and that she needs

00:54:47.059 --> 00:54:49.159
to get out of there So she throws all the stuff.

00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:53.800
She hides it. She goes, she sneaks down the,

00:54:53.820 --> 00:54:55.920
so she's headed towards like the stairs in the

00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:57.559
elevator and all of a sudden the elevator dings.

00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:00.159
And she's like, Oh, this might be Fred. She backtracks

00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:03.800
and goes past his room and goes and hides on

00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:07.139
the side wall so that Fred can walk past. And

00:55:07.139 --> 00:55:09.559
Fred like hits the hotel key. She thinks she's

00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:11.900
safe. And then her phone goes off and it's the

00:55:11.900 --> 00:55:16.239
same ringtone that Fred has as well. So he recognizes

00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:19.230
the ringtone. So he starts walking down the hall,

00:55:19.349 --> 00:55:22.150
but luckily she was able to get down the stairs

00:55:22.150 --> 00:55:25.510
that were right next to her before he finds her.

00:55:25.949 --> 00:55:27.909
So they're feeling the rush. You know, Nancy

00:55:27.909 --> 00:55:30.150
and Dave are happy. They have sex in the car

00:55:30.150 --> 00:55:38.030
again. Nancy can't really just leave Harry again,

00:55:38.110 --> 00:55:40.789
but they don't have undeniable proof that he's

00:55:40.789 --> 00:55:44.010
having an affair. So Dave agrees to get undeniable

00:55:44.010 --> 00:55:46.880
proof. Drops Nancy off at the train. She takes

00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:49.380
a train back home to get their son that she just

00:55:49.380 --> 00:55:54.360
abandoned, essentially. But she has a little

00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:57.599
more information now. And she starts doing research

00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:03.360
and says she'll get Harry later that night. And

00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:04.900
she got all of this because she just said it

00:56:04.900 --> 00:56:06.739
was a medical emergency, which is a great cover,

00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:11.579
I guess. One of the people she found out information

00:56:11.579 --> 00:56:16.909
about is Lacey Hartnett. The baloney queen. She

00:56:16.909 --> 00:56:20.429
calls the number she has for Lacey Hartnett from

00:56:20.429 --> 00:56:23.969
the Yellow Pages. And it turns out that Lacey

00:56:23.969 --> 00:56:27.030
had disappeared three years ago and they just

00:56:27.030 --> 00:56:33.110
found the body recently. And she also starts

00:56:33.110 --> 00:56:37.289
seeing that the Polaroids are included in the

00:56:37.289 --> 00:56:39.449
toy town they're building. So it's kind of like

00:56:39.449 --> 00:56:46.559
an homage of all these photographs. And so while

00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:50.300
she's researching, Dave's following Fred to a

00:56:50.300 --> 00:56:54.219
creepy cabin in the woods. And Nancy goes to

00:56:54.219 --> 00:56:56.119
the library with all these names she's now found.

00:56:56.219 --> 00:56:58.320
And she's found that all of these women have

00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:03.840
been murdered. And she is now heartbroken. And

00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:05.840
sometimes heartbreak does not feel good in a

00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:09.239
place like this. So she is just like absolutely

00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:11.840
heartbroken because she knows now that Fred might

00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:16.670
be a murderer. And so she tries to call Dave,

00:57:16.710 --> 00:57:19.150
but Dave is out of his car and doesn't have his

00:57:19.150 --> 00:57:21.829
phone. And he sees that Fred is meeting a woman

00:57:21.829 --> 00:57:25.409
with dogs at this cabin. She has a bunch of dogs.

00:57:25.909 --> 00:57:28.190
Dave then tries to sneak into the house because

00:57:28.190 --> 00:57:30.309
he wants to get proof of Fred cheating on Nancy.

00:57:31.949 --> 00:57:35.530
So he pushes open one of the doors to the bedroom.

00:57:36.130 --> 00:57:40.030
And Fred is standing over the dead body of this

00:57:40.030 --> 00:57:44.989
woman. And now Dave realizes, uh -oh. Of course,

00:57:45.010 --> 00:57:47.670
the door creaks and Fred hears it. So they get

00:57:47.670 --> 00:57:50.610
into an altercation and this altercation ends

00:57:50.610 --> 00:57:54.449
with Fred landing on his own knife as they like

00:57:54.449 --> 00:57:58.150
get thrown out of a window and he's still alive.

00:57:58.429 --> 00:58:01.989
And he now realizes that Dave, this is Dave and

00:58:01.989 --> 00:58:06.369
he does know Nancy. So Dave starts running to

00:58:06.369 --> 00:58:08.630
the lake where there's a boat tied up and he

00:58:08.630 --> 00:58:10.230
starts on tying the boat and he thinks he can

00:58:10.230 --> 00:58:14.000
get there before. Well, Fred. flips him onto

00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:17.199
his back and has enough energy, even though he's

00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:19.760
been stabbed to flip him on his back and then

00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:24.579
stands there like an idiot. Dave grabs the knife,

00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:26.480
which releases like a ton of blood that was being

00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:30.400
held in and they throws him into the lake. Yeah,

00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:38.260
it's yeah. So Dave killed Fred. And Nancy is

00:58:38.260 --> 00:58:40.199
just having like a panic attack because she now

00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:46.639
knows that Fred is a murderer. And so Dave shows

00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:50.800
up and promises that she is safe because he talked

00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:53.420
to him and made sure he never shows up again.

00:58:53.980 --> 00:58:56.380
Cause he, he doesn't want to admit like he killed

00:58:56.380 --> 00:58:58.800
somebody, you know, he doesn't want to say that.

00:58:58.900 --> 00:59:02.639
So she says, or he says that he got Fred to leave

00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:06.960
forever and never come back. And basically he

00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:10.239
wants to run now. He wants to get out of there,

00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:14.110
but. She knows that if they leave before tulip

00:59:14.110 --> 00:59:16.750
time, they're going to know something's up. So

00:59:16.750 --> 00:59:18.670
they're going to hide until tulip time is over

00:59:18.670 --> 00:59:21.630
and then they'll run away. So nothing comes out

00:59:21.630 --> 00:59:24.010
about Fred being a killer and ruining Harry's

00:59:24.010 --> 00:59:27.349
life. And so she's like going through the motions.

00:59:27.909 --> 00:59:31.570
She seems like she's just kind of like catatonic

00:59:31.570 --> 00:59:33.530
at this point. And Dave is definitely having

00:59:33.530 --> 00:59:35.630
a breakdown. Like he is freaking out. He's seeing

00:59:35.630 --> 00:59:38.030
things that are not there. He's seeing the dogs

00:59:38.030 --> 00:59:40.789
that were at this cabin. The dogs were licking

00:59:40.789 --> 00:59:44.860
the blood. At one point, it's rough. It's a rough

00:59:44.860 --> 00:59:49.079
scene, you know. So he's having nightmares. He

00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:51.880
sees Fred's face in the water. And then after

00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:54.380
this nightmare, he goes and digs in his yard

00:59:54.380 --> 00:59:57.179
and finds a gun he buried. I don't know why he

00:59:57.179 --> 00:59:59.860
has a gun buried. They never mentioned where

00:59:59.860 --> 01:00:03.340
this came from. So it's now tulip time. Harry

01:00:03.340 --> 01:00:07.039
is dancing in the Dutch boy costume that she

01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:11.789
saw in her dreams. Dancing. She's sitting next

01:00:11.789 --> 01:00:14.550
to Gwen and Jim and she goes, oh, yeah, we saw

01:00:14.550 --> 01:00:17.010
Fred. Fred's somewhere in the crowd. And as we

01:00:17.010 --> 01:00:19.449
see the crowd, we do see Fred, but we can't tell

01:00:19.449 --> 01:00:21.469
if it's like real or not. It's kind of like dizzying,

01:00:21.469 --> 01:00:23.809
that kind of thing. And Dave also sees him, but

01:00:23.809 --> 01:00:26.849
he might have PTSD for all we know. Or it's real.

01:00:27.489 --> 01:00:32.929
And so Nancy comes up. She needs to get to Harry

01:00:32.929 --> 01:00:36.909
before Fred does if he's really there. And it's

01:00:36.909 --> 01:00:40.070
a race to get to Harry. Dave pulls out the gun

01:00:40.070 --> 01:00:44.329
thinking he saw Fred and Nancy like realizes

01:00:44.329 --> 01:00:46.590
that Dave has this gun and is just kind of freaked

01:00:46.590 --> 01:00:49.090
out. So Nancy grabs Harry and they leave the

01:00:49.090 --> 01:00:52.969
parade. She takes Harry to a motel to think because

01:00:52.969 --> 01:00:55.690
she just needs to think. But someone is obviously

01:00:55.690 --> 01:00:57.969
following them. There's another car following.

01:00:58.650 --> 01:01:01.610
While this is all going on, Harry finds the bag

01:01:01.610 --> 01:01:04.829
from Nancy and sees the Polaroid of the baloney

01:01:04.829 --> 01:01:07.570
queen and realizes that this is in their toy

01:01:07.570 --> 01:01:11.929
town. And then someone knocks on the door. Nancy

01:01:11.929 --> 01:01:14.170
convinces Harry to not leave the room. She's

01:01:14.170 --> 01:01:16.670
going to go deal with it. He needs to stay there,

01:01:16.769 --> 01:01:19.909
no matter what happens. Well, it's Dave. And

01:01:19.909 --> 01:01:21.590
through the door, Dave tells her everything.

01:01:22.190 --> 01:01:27.769
Goes, Fred killed her. He attacked me. And I

01:01:27.769 --> 01:01:29.769
did self -defense in that I thought Fred was

01:01:29.769 --> 01:01:33.730
dead. And so I didn't tell you because I didn't

01:01:33.730 --> 01:01:37.260
want you to think I was a killer. All the while,

01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:38.960
Harry is looking at this Polaroid and then he

01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:41.519
hears Dave say, I saw him die. I saw him drown.

01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:45.460
And he runs away. Now that he's let into the

01:01:45.460 --> 01:01:47.300
motel room, Dave wants to call the cops. And

01:01:47.300 --> 01:01:50.280
they're fighting over this phone. And Nancy lets

01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:52.639
go of the phone. He trips backwards and a TV

01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.460
falls on his head. And Dave starts bleeding and

01:01:55.460 --> 01:01:57.440
is talking about all the dogs on the carpet that

01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:01.800
he sees. He's not doing well. And Harry had left

01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:04.460
the hotel while this was happening. So Nancy

01:02:04.460 --> 01:02:07.260
goes to find Harry. and sees him by the lake

01:02:07.260 --> 01:02:10.380
but then fred stands up into the frame and kind

01:02:10.380 --> 01:02:15.280
of waves fred sends harry away but she knows

01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:18.699
like if she doesn't take her spot near him he's

01:02:18.699 --> 01:02:22.260
going to kill one or both of them so she goes

01:02:22.260 --> 01:02:25.880
to the water near where fred is and once again

01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:29.380
fred is pissed he he now knows that nancy knows

01:02:29.380 --> 01:02:35.260
but he basically says now you're in on it Let's

01:02:35.260 --> 01:02:37.719
hit the reset button and we don't have to do

01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:43.019
anything else. So Nancy kind of follows along,

01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:46.219
goes to the car with Fred. Harry's already in

01:02:46.219 --> 01:02:50.480
there. They're both kind of freaked out. She

01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:55.320
does a ploy that Harry's not wearing a seatbelt

01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:57.940
and gets Fred to stop the car and tells Harry

01:02:57.940 --> 01:03:02.400
to run. And he runs away and she pulls out Dave's

01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:05.949
gun. Somehow she has Dave's gun now. Fred tries

01:03:05.949 --> 01:03:08.269
to like talk her down and she lets her guard

01:03:08.269 --> 01:03:11.010
down for a second, but the gun goes off and it

01:03:11.010 --> 01:03:14.670
just like skims his face. And he just has a spot

01:03:14.670 --> 01:03:17.750
missing from his face for the rest of this. She

01:03:17.750 --> 01:03:22.230
drops the gun. Cause she's like getting attacked

01:03:22.230 --> 01:03:26.250
now by Fred and she's trying to reach for the

01:03:26.250 --> 01:03:27.909
gun. She's trying to find it. She can't find

01:03:27.909 --> 01:03:29.849
it. Can't find it. Can't find it. She finds something

01:03:29.849 --> 01:03:33.510
else. And this is. perfect holland she finds

01:03:33.510 --> 01:03:36.590
the wooden clog that harry was dancing in and

01:03:36.590 --> 01:03:39.030
just starts beating him with it kills him with

01:03:39.030 --> 01:03:42.650
the wooden clog so harry is safe nancy stops

01:03:42.650 --> 01:03:45.590
fred and dave somehow survives but he's not in

01:03:45.590 --> 01:03:48.730
the hotel room we don't know where he went we

01:03:48.730 --> 01:03:50.889
have no clue that's where the movie ends because

01:03:50.889 --> 01:03:53.510
it's the same speech as the beginning and that

01:03:53.510 --> 01:03:56.489
is the end of the movie this movie was trash

01:03:56.489 --> 01:04:00.130
like absolute trash it thought it was so much

01:04:00.130 --> 01:04:02.630
smarter and it thought it was so good and everything

01:04:02.630 --> 01:04:04.530
like that all these twists and everything like

01:04:04.530 --> 01:04:07.090
that where we're a twisty movie and everything

01:04:07.090 --> 01:04:09.349
you know from the beginning there's something

01:04:09.349 --> 01:04:13.789
with fred like you know something as well as

01:04:13.789 --> 01:04:16.389
they don't hide anything about dave and nancy

01:04:16.389 --> 01:04:18.170
are going to get together like that's going to

01:04:18.170 --> 01:04:21.130
be a thing so it's really really awkward like

01:04:21.130 --> 01:04:23.289
this entire movie you can kind of see where it's

01:04:23.289 --> 01:04:28.190
going completely and Then they just throw in

01:04:28.190 --> 01:04:30.929
these dream sequences out of nowhere that don't

01:04:30.929 --> 01:04:36.670
go anywhere. I don't know. It's such a strange

01:04:36.670 --> 01:04:39.409
movie because I think I see where they were trying

01:04:39.409 --> 01:04:42.289
to go, and it's just not good enough. It's just

01:04:42.289 --> 01:04:45.690
not. It doesn't reach that level. Honestly, this

01:04:45.690 --> 01:04:50.190
movie was bad, like really bad. I don't understand

01:04:50.190 --> 01:04:53.590
how you try to figure out if your husband's having

01:04:53.590 --> 01:04:57.170
an affair by also having an affair. That's one

01:04:57.170 --> 01:04:58.570
thing that sticks with me that I'm just like,

01:04:58.590 --> 01:05:02.949
huh, what are we doing? What are we doing? And

01:05:02.949 --> 01:05:07.610
then on top of that, why is he just like putting

01:05:07.610 --> 01:05:10.070
all these murders in this toy town he's building

01:05:10.070 --> 01:05:12.469
with the son? Like they're all hidden in there

01:05:12.469 --> 01:05:15.150
and you can see all the victims and everything.

01:05:15.269 --> 01:05:17.909
She was able to deduce this and figure it out.

01:05:18.590 --> 01:05:21.829
And on top of that, like, I don't know, just

01:05:21.829 --> 01:05:24.280
go to the police at some point. that that's another

01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:28.840
thing like yes okay you killed fred you thought

01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:32.659
call the police like call the police he killed

01:05:32.659 --> 01:05:35.159
somebody he killed somebody you saw them kill

01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:38.300
somebody and then you were doing self -defense

01:05:38.300 --> 01:05:41.420
because they attacked you and i guess he has

01:05:41.420 --> 01:05:43.159
this whole thing with the police and stuff like

01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:46.059
that which they never go into by the way um so

01:05:46.059 --> 01:05:48.280
we don't know what dave's past is or anything

01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:51.139
like that so i guess that's what they're trying

01:05:51.139 --> 01:05:53.739
to do but even that it's just like Go to the

01:05:53.739 --> 01:05:57.039
police. I don't care what your past is. You saw

01:05:57.039 --> 01:06:00.019
a person kill somebody, and then you tried to

01:06:00.019 --> 01:06:04.119
fight them because they attacked you. Yeah, it'll

01:06:04.119 --> 01:06:06.239
work itself out, I think. I think. I don't know.

01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:09.579
I've never dealt with this, I guess, so I don't

01:06:09.579 --> 01:06:11.599
know what's going to happen, but I think you'd

01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:15.360
be okay in that situation. But who knows? Also,

01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:17.860
this thing with squigs never needed to happen.

01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:21.610
They completely get dropped off. at the like

01:06:21.610 --> 01:06:23.849
mid part of this movie there's nothing else with

01:06:23.849 --> 01:06:26.590
them they just are racist at one point he fights

01:06:26.590 --> 01:06:28.889
them off and the only thing we learn from it

01:06:28.889 --> 01:06:31.510
is that he had his run -in with the law that's

01:06:31.510 --> 01:06:34.110
all we learn that's it i don't know there was

01:06:34.110 --> 01:06:36.909
there's a bunch of like there's a bunch of strands

01:06:36.909 --> 01:06:39.610
of story that they just didn't know what to go

01:06:39.610 --> 01:06:47.190
with and then they ended up here and again It's

01:06:47.190 --> 01:06:49.530
predictable in the fact that you know something's

01:06:49.530 --> 01:06:53.829
up with Fred. You know he's done something. And

01:06:53.829 --> 01:06:56.050
you know that Dave and Nancy are going to end

01:06:56.050 --> 01:06:57.730
up together. Like, you know it from the beginning.

01:06:57.969 --> 01:07:00.750
And yes, it may not have gone the way that you

01:07:00.750 --> 01:07:03.889
thought it would, but it's still pretty obvious

01:07:03.889 --> 01:07:08.250
what they were doing. Yeah, so Holland was just

01:07:08.250 --> 01:07:11.610
not a good movie. It's not a movie where I felt

01:07:11.610 --> 01:07:17.480
entertained or somehow reborn. like i said it's

01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:19.440
not a good movie i think it thought it was being

01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:22.800
like gone girl or it thought it was being like

01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:25.579
so there's a movie that was out recently that

01:07:25.579 --> 01:07:29.800
stars dylan mcdermott it's on hulu and it's basically

01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:33.500
the same kind of premise kind of um this son

01:07:33.500 --> 01:07:36.039
starts thinking his dad might be a serial killer

01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:38.679
and it does a very good job of maybe he is maybe

01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:40.460
he isn't maybe he is maybe he isn't that kind

01:07:40.460 --> 01:07:43.579
of stuff that's a better movie It's not a good

01:07:43.579 --> 01:07:46.340
movie. It's a fine movie. It's a fine movie.

01:07:46.579 --> 01:07:49.480
But it's just so much better than this because

01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:52.340
everything seemed like you already knew there

01:07:52.340 --> 01:07:55.659
was something. So, I don't know. That's my thoughts

01:07:55.659 --> 01:07:58.059
on Holland. Please save yourself some time. Don't

01:07:58.059 --> 01:08:02.139
do it. Just don't. It's 0 .25 clogs out of 5.

01:08:02.380 --> 01:08:06.380
It's that bad. It just was a waste of time. And

01:08:06.380 --> 01:08:09.820
for somebody like Nicole Kidman, who had a pretty

01:08:09.820 --> 01:08:12.099
decent year with Baby Girl and everything like

01:08:12.099 --> 01:08:16.710
that, Um, this one, this one felt like a miss.

01:08:17.470 --> 01:08:20.210
So, and I kind of see where they're going with

01:08:20.210 --> 01:08:25.329
some of this stuff. Like why, uh, why she thought

01:08:25.329 --> 01:08:28.090
this might be a decent one, but it's, it's not,

01:08:28.170 --> 01:08:31.289
not this one. Don't watch Holland. Don't do it.

01:08:31.489 --> 01:08:34.449
Don't, don't even be tempted by it. I was kind

01:08:34.449 --> 01:08:36.529
of excited about it when I saw the trailer and

01:08:36.529 --> 01:08:39.569
thought, oh, this might be good. And then when

01:08:40.950 --> 01:08:42.970
I saw the reviews coming in, you know, it's kind

01:08:42.970 --> 01:08:46.170
of like, okay, what are we getting into here?

01:08:46.310 --> 01:08:49.029
What's going on? And then because I had done

01:08:49.029 --> 01:08:50.869
the Stepford Wives, I knew I had to do it. I

01:08:50.869 --> 01:08:52.850
knew I had to watch this one and add this on.

01:08:53.149 --> 01:08:55.529
And I'm glad I did because the Stepford Wives

01:08:55.529 --> 01:08:57.970
wasn't that bad. And you know, I like to suffer

01:08:57.970 --> 01:09:01.449
for my art. So yeah, I watched Holland. So you

01:09:01.449 --> 01:09:04.250
don't have to. So yeah, that was a, that was

01:09:04.250 --> 01:09:07.470
an episode about Nicole Kidman, Stepford Wives

01:09:07.470 --> 01:09:10.680
and Holland. I hope you guys enjoyed the Game

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