WEBVTT 00:00:03.310 --> 00:00:04.750 You know what that sound means? It's another 00:00:04.750 --> 00:00:07.070 episode of Game for a Movie where we ask, are 00:00:07.070 --> 00:00:09.250 you game for a movie? My name is Mike. I will 00:00:09.250 --> 00:00:12.210 be your host this evening. Just in time for election 00:00:12.210 --> 00:00:15.089 day, which is probably a week past at this point 00:00:15.089 --> 00:00:17.429 because, you know, I'm always on top of the schedule. 00:00:17.969 --> 00:00:20.850 I've got a political thriller for you as the 00:00:20.850 --> 00:00:24.670 bad movie from 2011. But first, we've always 00:00:24.670 --> 00:00:28.339 got to drop what we are drinking. This time it 00:00:28.339 --> 00:00:30.559 is from Resident Culture Brewing right here in 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:32.579 Charlotte, North Carolina. It's a beer called 00:00:32.579 --> 00:00:34.960 Motivations of the Heart. It is a West Coast 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:39.380 style IPA and it is 7 % by volume. I like this 00:00:39.380 --> 00:00:42.280 a lot. I think this is very good. The beer itself, 00:00:42.500 --> 00:00:46.340 fantastic. What always gets me about Resident 00:00:46.340 --> 00:00:50.640 Culture is their cans are so freaking cool. Instead 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:53.740 of like the silver, they use a black can and 00:00:53.740 --> 00:00:58.189 this is very like abstract art. on it i very 00:00:58.189 --> 00:01:00.549 much like the can it got me to buy it from the 00:01:00.549 --> 00:01:03.009 store without even trying it in the first place 00:01:03.009 --> 00:01:06.849 and yeah this is a good beer motivations of the 00:01:06.849 --> 00:01:09.450 heart from resident culture is our beer while 00:01:09.450 --> 00:01:11.849 we talk about this bad movie tonight one of the 00:01:11.849 --> 00:01:14.150 things i think i'm going to add to these episodes 00:01:14.150 --> 00:01:16.730 now i talk a lot about the movie and everything 00:01:16.730 --> 00:01:19.530 like that but i want to kind of like find a topic 00:01:19.530 --> 00:01:21.689 from that movie that i'm going to talk about 00:01:21.689 --> 00:01:25.209 at the end and just it's about film it's about 00:01:25.609 --> 00:01:28.849 ideas like that from certain films and especially 00:01:28.849 --> 00:01:31.969 these bad ones I think a lot of them still have 00:01:31.969 --> 00:01:34.049 some things that are going for them a lot of 00:01:34.049 --> 00:01:35.590 these conversations are probably going to be 00:01:35.590 --> 00:01:38.890 like where they thought they were going right 00:01:38.890 --> 00:01:41.489 that they went so wrong sometimes it's not going 00:01:41.489 --> 00:01:44.430 to be about that this episode tonight is not 00:01:44.430 --> 00:01:47.109 going to be that conversation we're going to 00:01:47.109 --> 00:01:50.090 have a very specific conversation relating to 00:01:50.090 --> 00:01:53.069 this film which this film, if you have not read 00:01:53.069 --> 00:01:55.870 the title of this episode, is from 2011. It's 00:01:55.870 --> 00:01:59.590 called The Double. It has Richard Gere, Topher 00:01:59.590 --> 00:02:02.810 Grace, and Martin Sheen as your big names. It 00:02:02.810 --> 00:02:05.510 also has a few other recognizable faces that 00:02:05.510 --> 00:02:08.930 you will hear as I go into the details of the 00:02:08.930 --> 00:02:11.710 film itself. The Rotten Tomatoes score. If you 00:02:11.710 --> 00:02:14.310 don't know by now, I usually stick with something 00:02:14.310 --> 00:02:17.849 that's under 40 % on both the critics and the 00:02:17.849 --> 00:02:21.509 audience score. The critic score was 22%. The 00:02:21.509 --> 00:02:26.129 audience score was 33%. So not very good numbers 00:02:26.129 --> 00:02:30.409 for the double. It is PG -13 and it was released 00:02:30.409 --> 00:02:34.550 October 28th of 2011. It is an hour and 38 minutes 00:02:34.550 --> 00:02:39.810 long. The projected estimated budget was $13 00:02:39.810 --> 00:02:49.060 ,500 ,000. The gross worldwide... was $4 ,729 00:02:49.060 --> 00:02:55.740 ,855. Not the best, is what I will say. But, 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:59.680 you know, they tried at least. A little bit about 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:02.060 some of the people that were responsible for 00:03:02.060 --> 00:03:05.020 this movie. We've got Michael Brandt, who directed 00:03:05.020 --> 00:03:07.759 and wrote this film. Michael Brandt has been 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:10.379 a writer and producer on several things. He's 00:03:10.379 --> 00:03:13.000 been a producer and executive producer and showrunner 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:16.509 on things like Chicago Fire. He was the writer 00:03:16.509 --> 00:03:20.490 for 310 to Yuma and Wanted. He also has been 00:03:20.490 --> 00:03:22.449 an executive producer because you can't just 00:03:22.449 --> 00:03:25.949 be on one Chicago PD and Chicago Med. And then 00:03:25.949 --> 00:03:28.449 he was also the executive producer on Chicago 00:03:28.449 --> 00:03:31.310 Justice when that was a thing. Also, because 00:03:31.310 --> 00:03:36.319 this is personal to us at the podcast. He was 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:39.479 the screenplay and story writer for Too Fast, 00:03:39.659 --> 00:03:42.840 Too Furious, very underrated Fast and the Furious 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:46.060 film that you should definitely enjoy. And I 00:03:46.060 --> 00:03:47.840 just learned while also looking at his page, 00:03:47.939 --> 00:03:51.199 he is part of the screenplay for the in -development 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:56.500 Wanted 2 sequel coming out. I don't know if anybody 00:03:56.500 --> 00:03:59.080 wanted that, but they're apparently working on 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:02.479 a sequel to the 2008 movie Wanted. His writing 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:05.139 partner on this one is a guy named Derek Haas. 00:04:05.580 --> 00:04:07.780 Derek Haas has also worked with him on Too Fast, 00:04:07.860 --> 00:04:10.900 Too Furious, Wanted, The Double, The Chicago 00:04:10.900 --> 00:04:14.060 Shows, and then he's done a couple episodes of 00:04:14.060 --> 00:04:17.639 FBI International. He is also one of the writers 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:21.920 on Wanted 2, and then also coming up is XXX4. 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:24.939 Derek Haas is responsible for writing some of 00:04:24.939 --> 00:04:27.600 that. This movie was nominated for one award, 00:04:27.740 --> 00:04:30.879 that is the Saturn Award for Best DVD Release. 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:33.839 It did not win in 2012, unfortunately, so that 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:36.189 is its one nomination. We're going to get into 00:04:36.189 --> 00:04:38.649 details of this movie, but a little synopsis 00:04:38.649 --> 00:04:41.490 before we get started. This is what we are jumping 00:04:41.490 --> 00:04:44.730 in with. A retired CIA operative is paired with 00:04:44.730 --> 00:04:47.490 a young FBI agent to unravel the mystery of a 00:04:47.490 --> 00:04:50.250 senator's murder, with all signs pointing to 00:04:50.250 --> 00:04:53.209 a Soviet assassin. That's kind of why I wanted 00:04:53.209 --> 00:04:55.410 to watch it. With the election coming up and 00:04:55.410 --> 00:04:57.670 everything like that, I decided that I was going 00:04:57.670 --> 00:04:59.850 to watch this about three days before the election. 00:05:00.410 --> 00:05:02.709 The idea of political thriller was stuck in my 00:05:02.709 --> 00:05:04.490 head, so that's why I kind of wanted to watch 00:05:04.490 --> 00:05:10.389 it. And having Russian spies in this movie definitely 00:05:10.389 --> 00:05:13.410 felt like the right time for watching this movie. 00:05:13.889 --> 00:05:16.370 Some things never change with Russian spies and 00:05:16.370 --> 00:05:18.089 everything. Like I said, this movie is from 2011. 00:05:18.389 --> 00:05:22.769 It's still relevant today in 2024. So the idea 00:05:22.769 --> 00:05:25.250 of a political thriller with some Russian spies, 00:05:25.509 --> 00:05:28.370 that kind of thing, definitely was up my alley. 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:32.819 So I had to watch it, obviously. So let's get 00:05:32.819 --> 00:05:35.379 down and dirty with the details of this film. 00:05:35.420 --> 00:05:37.180 I'm going to tell you everything about it just 00:05:37.180 --> 00:05:39.879 so you don't have to watch it because I would 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:42.939 hate for you to have to deal with that. And then 00:05:42.939 --> 00:05:45.000 I'm going to get into the discussion on this 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:48.980 episode about this movie in particular. So we 00:05:48.980 --> 00:05:51.540 start and the first thing to know is the production 00:05:51.540 --> 00:05:54.959 company is Image Nation Abu Dhabi. I just wanted 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:57.319 you to know that. I don't think it has any reference, 00:05:57.420 --> 00:05:59.819 but at that time I wrote it down just in case 00:05:59.819 --> 00:06:04.480 it did ever come to be. We start in Sonora, Mexico, 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:08.779 and there is a group of some Spanish people, 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:12.040 like Mexican people, and then there's about five 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:14.180 to seven people in this group. You don't get 00:06:14.180 --> 00:06:16.259 an actual count, but about five to seven people 00:06:16.259 --> 00:06:18.480 that are Russian, and they're trying to cross 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:21.759 the border to start this movie when all of a 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.180 sudden a border patrol, like border security 00:06:24.180 --> 00:06:28.819 car, shows up and scares the group away. All 00:06:28.819 --> 00:06:31.740 the Mexican people rush off, but the Russians 00:06:31.740 --> 00:06:34.160 know this is their guy and they jump in the car 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:38.920 and drive off. Then we go to six months later. 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:42.079 And let me tell you right now, that scene was 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:44.920 not important at all. We just needed to see how 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:48.279 they got into the US and even that is just kind 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:51.939 of glossed over. Now it sets up that we are watching 00:06:51.939 --> 00:06:55.800 these two FBI agents. They are spying on a guy 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:59.139 named Darden. He is a senator and he is played 00:06:59.139 --> 00:07:04.060 by Ed Kelly. He leaves his hotel. And while the 00:07:04.060 --> 00:07:06.100 FBI guys are watching, somebody comes around 00:07:06.100 --> 00:07:09.360 and kills him immediately. Like it was really 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:12.819 quick. Senator Darden is down. So these two guys 00:07:12.819 --> 00:07:15.810 that are FBI, they rushed to the scene. basically 00:07:15.810 --> 00:07:18.370 set up a crime scene and this is where we get 00:07:18.370 --> 00:07:22.410 introduced to martin sheen martin sheen he plays 00:07:22.410 --> 00:07:26.129 highland director highland and he shows up to 00:07:26.129 --> 00:07:28.470 the crime scene he gives a phone to one of the 00:07:28.470 --> 00:07:32.750 guys that was watching senator darden and basically 00:07:32.750 --> 00:07:37.430 is told to call their director and let them know 00:07:37.430 --> 00:07:40.129 that highland from the cia is in charge this 00:07:40.129 --> 00:07:43.870 is kind of We have CIA, we have FBI kind of working 00:07:43.870 --> 00:07:48.029 together on this case. So Darden is a senator 00:07:48.029 --> 00:07:51.470 that was being watched by the FBI. Hyland comes 00:07:51.470 --> 00:07:54.490 and he is CIA and he tells the director of the 00:07:54.490 --> 00:07:56.810 FBI or tells the guy to tell the director of 00:07:56.810 --> 00:07:59.329 the FBI he's taking over. This scene cuts to 00:07:59.329 --> 00:08:02.129 our main character, Richard Gere. He is playing 00:08:02.129 --> 00:08:05.329 Paul Shepardson and he is watching a Little League 00:08:05.329 --> 00:08:07.410 baseball game. There's nothing more American 00:08:07.410 --> 00:08:09.250 than watching a Little League baseball game. 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:13.060 And he ends up talking to this woman about her 00:08:13.060 --> 00:08:15.519 son and everything like that. And when she asks, 00:08:15.540 --> 00:08:18.560 do you have any kids? He goes, no, I was just 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:20.959 in the neighborhood. He's like sitting in the 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:23.819 stands surrounded by the parents. And he's just 00:08:23.819 --> 00:08:26.660 hanging out, like watching these kids play baseball. 00:08:27.060 --> 00:08:29.779 It's really kind of creepy that nobody thought 00:08:29.779 --> 00:08:32.659 this was wrong. Maybe that's just my thought 00:08:32.659 --> 00:08:35.299 because it's Richard Gere, too. I don't know. 00:08:35.340 --> 00:08:37.720 Something about it just doesn't feel right. And 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:39.700 this lady's just like, oh, okay, cool. He's just 00:08:39.700 --> 00:08:42.379 from the neighborhood and watching these kids 00:08:42.379 --> 00:08:45.740 play baseball. Whatever. The lady also asks him 00:08:45.740 --> 00:08:48.259 the time, but he says to her he doesn't wear 00:08:48.259 --> 00:08:51.740 a watch. This is actually a little detail that 00:08:51.740 --> 00:08:54.419 I had to go back and write because it does become 00:08:54.419 --> 00:08:59.789 a little more important to the story. So it feels 00:08:59.789 --> 00:09:01.370 like something that's kind of like a throwaway 00:09:01.370 --> 00:09:05.389 line, but truthfully, it ends up being a big 00:09:05.389 --> 00:09:08.090 deal. So we're assuming after the game, Paul 00:09:08.090 --> 00:09:11.009 Shepardson walks back to his house and waiting 00:09:11.009 --> 00:09:13.710 for him is Highland. Highland is in his house. 00:09:13.970 --> 00:09:20.350 And Highland seems to think that Cassius is responsible 00:09:20.350 --> 00:09:24.629 for the death of Senator Darden. And Paul is 00:09:24.629 --> 00:09:28.419 the go -to on Cassius. And he knows for a fact, 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:32.019 like he knows Cassius is dead. We don't know 00:09:32.019 --> 00:09:36.440 anything else about Cassius until the next day. 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:41.539 The next day, Paul ends up going to the CIA with 00:09:41.539 --> 00:09:45.700 Hyland just to kind of like hear the intel about 00:09:45.700 --> 00:09:49.200 everything going on. We learn in this conversation 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:53.830 that Paul is the expert on the Cassius 7. The 00:09:53.830 --> 00:09:56.190 Cassius Seven are named after the Roman assassins 00:09:56.190 --> 00:09:59.730 who killed Caesar. He was responsible for catching 00:09:59.730 --> 00:10:03.649 six of the seven. So the only one that got away 00:10:03.649 --> 00:10:08.190 was Cassius. And Paul's convinced that he's dead. 00:10:08.330 --> 00:10:10.649 Like Paul is convinced he's gone. There's no 00:10:10.649 --> 00:10:12.990 chance he's still around, anything like that. 00:10:13.210 --> 00:10:15.529 So he knows the six of the seven were arrested. 00:10:15.909 --> 00:10:18.090 So he's just like, it's a done deal. We're done. 00:10:18.789 --> 00:10:22.029 But somebody else is a little more skeptical. 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:25.139 This is Topher Grace's character of Ben Geary. 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:29.019 Ben Geary is a recent recruit of the FBI. He 00:10:29.019 --> 00:10:31.940 is the young hotshot, and he has done the most 00:10:31.940 --> 00:10:37.500 work about Cassius now that Paul is retired, 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.940 including he did his whole master's thesis on 00:10:40.940 --> 00:10:43.960 the Cassius Seven, and that's how he got recruited 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:47.059 to the FBI. Paul is still pretty certain. He 00:10:47.059 --> 00:10:50.159 is certain Cassius is dead. Ben is a little more 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:53.440 skeptical about it. So as Ben is like kind of 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:55.840 calling out Paul about the fact that he may still 00:10:55.840 --> 00:10:59.700 be alive, Paul is like, dude, you're more a librarian 00:10:59.700 --> 00:11:01.980 than an agent. All you've done is research. You 00:11:01.980 --> 00:11:03.559 haven't been out in the field, that kind of thing. 00:11:04.460 --> 00:11:10.440 And then Highland lets them know that one of 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:15.059 the seven that was captured is still alive, nicknamed 00:11:15.059 --> 00:11:17.879 Brutus. And this is too much for Paul. Paul is 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:20.419 like, no, Brutus isn't alive. I shot and killed 00:11:20.419 --> 00:11:24.019 him. But no, he actually is alive. He's in this 00:11:24.019 --> 00:11:28.700 super secret facility. And so Highland wants 00:11:28.700 --> 00:11:32.759 Paul and Ben to go to the facility and interview 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:35.679 Brutus and learn if they know anything, if they 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:37.639 can figure out anything more about Cassius and 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:40.360 if he's alive or not. Paul at this point is like, 00:11:40.419 --> 00:11:42.919 no, I'm not doing this. No, Cassius is dead. 00:11:43.059 --> 00:11:47.480 I'm retired. It's done. This is now. But then 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:50.399 he gets home. And he sees a car on the street 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:52.799 and he kind of is feeling like he's being watched. 00:11:53.100 --> 00:11:55.919 He doesn't know exactly if he is or not. But 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:58.179 this is the moment I said that it looks like 00:11:58.179 --> 00:12:04.159 Paul is unretiring. And so remember how I said 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:07.179 he didn't wear a watch? He grabs one from his 00:12:07.179 --> 00:12:09.960 safe that is like a really fancy watch and he 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:12.259 puts it on. It's the next day and Paul meets 00:12:12.259 --> 00:12:14.299 Highland at a coffee stand that's across the 00:12:14.299 --> 00:12:16.840 street from the White House. And basically Highland 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:19.440 gives him an ultimatum. He says, if you're going 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:21.700 to retire, I need you just to either prove that 00:12:21.700 --> 00:12:24.340 Cassius is dead or to find out if he did it. 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:27.120 So Paul is now on the case and he is partnered 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:31.200 with the new FBI kid, Ben Geary. Then we get 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:34.519 a 1988 flashback to the American embassy in Paris. 00:12:34.940 --> 00:12:38.100 This flashback just shows that Paul knows how 00:12:38.100 --> 00:12:41.480 to take down the seven and that he went to Highland's 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:44.019 office to tell him how to do it. And that Highland's 00:12:44.019 --> 00:12:45.820 just like, okay, we're going to base our careers 00:12:45.820 --> 00:12:48.820 on this. Now it's back to present day. Ben Geary 00:12:48.820 --> 00:12:51.379 gets a call and is told basically you're no longer 00:12:51.379 --> 00:12:54.279 a librarian. You're jumping in the field. So 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:56.019 now we got Paul and Ben and they're just kind 00:12:56.019 --> 00:12:57.460 of the odd couple. You know, they're working 00:12:57.460 --> 00:13:01.200 together and one's the grizzled vet. The other 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:04.799 is the green rookie. He's like excitement in 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:06.860 his eyes. He's ready to take down Cassius and 00:13:06.860 --> 00:13:09.860 make a name for himself. And then Paul is just 00:13:09.860 --> 00:13:12.159 kind of like you're putting all your eggs in 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:14.440 the wrong basket, kid. Like this isn't going 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:16.639 to work. While they're driving to the prison 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:19.740 that Brutus is in, basically Ben questions why 00:13:19.740 --> 00:13:24.379 they never told Paul about Brutus. And truthfully, 00:13:24.379 --> 00:13:27.340 what he says is that he would kill him. It's 00:13:27.340 --> 00:13:30.059 pretty obvious that's why they didn't tell him. 00:13:30.100 --> 00:13:32.700 Because they wanted to try to get more information 00:13:32.700 --> 00:13:34.980 eventually out of him. And they know if they 00:13:34.980 --> 00:13:38.639 told Paul, Paul would kill him. So Brutus in 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:42.570 the prison, he is played by Stephen Moyer. Stephen 00:13:42.570 --> 00:13:46.450 Moyer's main claim to fame, he was in 81 episodes 00:13:46.450 --> 00:13:50.750 of True Blood. But really, that's about it. So 00:13:50.750 --> 00:13:53.590 you may know him from True Blood. That's kind 00:13:53.590 --> 00:13:57.289 of really it. There's not much else you might 00:13:57.289 --> 00:14:01.250 know him from. But Brutus, he is in the prison. 00:14:01.549 --> 00:14:08.549 And Paul lets Ben do the interview. Paul also 00:14:08.549 --> 00:14:14.139 brings into... the jail cell he knows that Brutus 00:14:14.139 --> 00:14:17.620 would want a radio so if he talks they're going 00:14:17.620 --> 00:14:20.700 to offer him this radio like it's a boombox kind 00:14:20.700 --> 00:14:23.840 of thing and so Ben leads the charge talking 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:26.940 Russian to Brutus which Brutus then says in Russian 00:14:26.940 --> 00:14:28.720 just because I wanted to include this your mother 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:31.179 is a whore Brutus obviously doesn't remember 00:14:31.179 --> 00:14:33.039 Paul at first but Paul's just kind of sitting 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:34.720 in the background not really saying anything 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:37.399 and just kind of like hiding in the shadows Ben 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:40.460 offers him the radio And says, I will give this 00:14:40.460 --> 00:14:44.220 to you if you can tell me anything about Cassius. 00:14:45.139 --> 00:14:48.779 And so we get a little kind of flashback where 00:14:48.779 --> 00:14:52.000 Brutus talks about how the seven became trained, 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:54.620 forced to kill each other because there were 00:14:54.620 --> 00:14:58.600 12 before. And I say there are 12. The Cassius 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:01.399 seven is Cassius and then six other guys. And 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:04.080 there was 12 recruits and the 12 recruits became 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:07.230 six because they killed each other. Brutus admits 00:15:07.230 --> 00:15:11.450 that they use wires and not knives. And so all 00:15:11.450 --> 00:15:14.289 of a sudden something clicks with Ben that, oh, 00:15:14.309 --> 00:15:16.909 it was a wire that he's used to kill all of his 00:15:16.909 --> 00:15:19.450 like opposition and everything like that. It 00:15:19.450 --> 00:15:22.929 wasn't a knife or anything. So one of the things 00:15:22.929 --> 00:15:25.809 is that he went back and thought about was Senator 00:15:25.809 --> 00:15:29.610 Darden. His throat was slit and everybody was 00:15:29.610 --> 00:15:32.809 thinking knife, but really it was a sharp ass 00:15:32.809 --> 00:15:35.740 wire. Brutus is like giving all this stuff kind 00:15:35.740 --> 00:15:38.299 of up it's you know he's still holding a little 00:15:38.299 --> 00:15:41.320 back and everything like that and Paul like cuts 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:44.000 up cuts the combo short and it's just like all 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:46.039 right we gotta get out of here now gives him 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:51.559 the radio and Ben is kind of miffed but follows 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:53.639 along because he's thinking oh you're the veteran 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:56.559 okay I'll just follow you along Brutus plays 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:00.340 the radio for a little bit he's playing the the 00:16:00.340 --> 00:16:02.419 tape that's in it. And it's exactly what he wanted 00:16:02.419 --> 00:16:06.340 to hear. And then he opens the boom box. He takes 00:16:06.340 --> 00:16:08.820 the batteries out of the radio and he swallows 00:16:08.820 --> 00:16:13.220 them whole. And this triggers a reaction for 00:16:13.220 --> 00:16:16.200 Brutus and he ends up in the medical ward. And 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:20.000 so while he's like getting situated and everything 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:22.980 like that, he pukes up these batteries and then 00:16:22.980 --> 00:16:24.759 he's able to get the jump on the doctors and 00:16:24.759 --> 00:16:28.850 security. kills the doctors holding security 00:16:28.850 --> 00:16:32.330 at gunpoint that kind of stuff and gets to the 00:16:32.330 --> 00:16:35.190 parking garage when he gets to the parking garage 00:16:35.190 --> 00:16:37.629 he thinks he's all clear and then he steps on 00:16:37.629 --> 00:16:41.389 a battery and so he looks down and realizes that 00:16:41.389 --> 00:16:45.350 it's a battery and paul is behind him paul knew 00:16:45.350 --> 00:16:48.970 he was going to do this so he like is able to 00:16:48.970 --> 00:16:52.269 grab him and tell brutus who he is he's the guy 00:16:52.269 --> 00:16:55.320 who shot him in salzburg And he's also the guy 00:16:55.320 --> 00:17:00.059 who trained him in Moscow. Yes, Paul is Cassius. 00:17:00.340 --> 00:17:03.440 We get this big reveal early on that Paul is 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:07.559 Cassius. Brutus tries to stab Paul, but he's 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:10.200 too quick. And he pulls a wire through Brutus' 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:14.619 neck, killing him. And after he kills him, you 00:17:14.619 --> 00:17:17.119 see the wire go back into Paul's watch. It's 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:19.599 retractable. It winds around there and everything 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:22.059 like that. This is what the big deal was about 00:17:22.059 --> 00:17:25.950 the watch. So we now know very early on that 00:17:25.950 --> 00:17:29.390 Paul is Cassius and that he has been doing all 00:17:29.390 --> 00:17:31.470 the killings and everything like that. And that 00:17:31.470 --> 00:17:34.150 his weapon is wire that comes from his watch. 00:17:34.670 --> 00:17:38.789 After killing Brutus, he goes and watches Ben 00:17:38.789 --> 00:17:41.549 at his house, like just kind of like checking 00:17:41.549 --> 00:17:45.410 up on him. And it seems like he's going to like 00:17:45.410 --> 00:17:47.890 kill him at first. Like he kind of gets ready 00:17:47.890 --> 00:17:53.009 to kill him, but he sees Ben's wife. and he seems 00:17:53.009 --> 00:17:55.109 to feel some kind of remorse or something like 00:17:55.109 --> 00:17:58.089 that, so he doesn't pursue. That night when Paul 00:17:58.089 --> 00:18:00.750 gets home, he has a flashback in his dreams where 00:18:00.750 --> 00:18:03.049 he remembers killing his first target in Paris. 00:18:03.230 --> 00:18:07.470 It was one of the seven. And he wakes up in, 00:18:07.490 --> 00:18:10.269 like, a sweat, calls Ben, and says that they 00:18:10.269 --> 00:18:13.549 need to meet. They meet at the reflection pond, 00:18:13.730 --> 00:18:16.069 is what I'm thinking, is what they tried to set 00:18:16.069 --> 00:18:18.769 up. Um, this movie was filmed in Detroit. So 00:18:18.769 --> 00:18:20.410 there's a lot of buildings that you kind of see 00:18:20.410 --> 00:18:22.490 like the GM headquarters and it's just kind of 00:18:22.490 --> 00:18:26.829 reflected in like the water. And so it's definitely 00:18:26.829 --> 00:18:30.250 like a mistake, but whatever, they're trying 00:18:30.250 --> 00:18:32.190 to set it up. That's the reflecting pool in front 00:18:32.190 --> 00:18:34.349 of the Washington monument. Who cares? I don't 00:18:34.349 --> 00:18:38.069 really care. I just now pointing it out because 00:18:38.069 --> 00:18:42.190 it is definitely a goof on that point. But basically 00:18:42.190 --> 00:18:46.299 Ben and Paul meet. And he tells Ben to drop the 00:18:46.299 --> 00:18:49.420 investigation because Cassius doesn't care who 00:18:49.420 --> 00:18:51.700 he has to kill. And now that we know he's Cassius, 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:55.799 he's trying to more so protect him and say that 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:58.460 he doesn't want to kill him. But of course, Ben 00:18:58.460 --> 00:19:01.839 doesn't want to. He just wants to put him away 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:04.779 for good. He wants that first big catch, and 00:19:04.779 --> 00:19:07.339 he wants to be known as the guy who put Cassius 00:19:07.339 --> 00:19:11.359 away. So they're in public. It's a very public 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:15.039 area. Paul can't do anything about it. He'd already 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:17.660 said he wanted him to stop, but he's not going 00:19:17.660 --> 00:19:20.339 to stop. So whatever. They go their separate 00:19:20.339 --> 00:19:23.299 ways. Ben goes back to his office, and he's doing 00:19:23.299 --> 00:19:26.380 some research. He's back to librarian mode. He 00:19:26.380 --> 00:19:28.680 also has a buddy there that's kind of helping 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:33.859 him out. That guy's name is Oliver. Oliver, not 00:19:33.859 --> 00:19:35.680 a big deal. We don't really know who the actor 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:37.519 is or anything like that. Not that big a deal. 00:19:37.660 --> 00:19:40.500 But basically, Ben is kind of working with Oliver, 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:44.710 and then he gets a call. And basically Ben is 00:19:44.710 --> 00:19:48.750 told that Brutus has been killed with the wire. 00:19:49.710 --> 00:19:52.990 So Ben goes over to the crime scene to try to 00:19:52.990 --> 00:19:55.849 see everything that happened. He's like walking 00:19:55.849 --> 00:19:58.349 through this, seeing what Brutus did to escape. 00:19:58.509 --> 00:20:01.430 And the entire time Paul is like kind of right 00:20:01.430 --> 00:20:03.829 behind him in the shadows, kind of watching over 00:20:03.829 --> 00:20:07.319 him. Paul makes himself known. that he has been, 00:20:07.460 --> 00:20:09.500 or he just got there and everything like that. 00:20:09.660 --> 00:20:12.440 Just kind of like seeing what Ben knows. He wants 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:15.339 to, he wants to kind of pick his brain. And Ben 00:20:15.339 --> 00:20:18.759 talks about the fact that Cassius shows up to 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:20.980 all of his crimes after he likes to be there 00:20:20.980 --> 00:20:23.180 and everything. So Ben starts studying the crowd 00:20:23.180 --> 00:20:26.319 and he sees a man in a brown coat. And once he 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:28.279 sees this guy in the brown coat, the guy in the 00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:31.819 brown coat takes off. And so there's a foot chase 00:20:31.819 --> 00:20:34.859 to like a maze of a trash heap. You know, this 00:20:34.859 --> 00:20:37.400 is like a, This is like a garbage waste area. 00:20:37.500 --> 00:20:40.259 There's tons of trash on top of each other. It 00:20:40.259 --> 00:20:42.900 creates some, like, it's a maze, essentially, 00:20:43.019 --> 00:20:46.119 to get lost in. So Paul tells them to split up 00:20:46.119 --> 00:20:49.339 to chase this guy with the brown coat. This is 00:20:49.339 --> 00:20:52.380 one of the things I have with this movie. When 00:20:52.380 --> 00:20:56.779 Paul tells them to split up, yes, it makes sense 00:20:56.779 --> 00:20:59.500 in the standpoint that Paul kind of wants to 00:20:59.500 --> 00:21:04.980 kill this guy. At the same time, like Paul being 00:21:04.980 --> 00:21:08.059 the CIA veteran agent who thinks that Ben shouldn't 00:21:08.059 --> 00:21:09.680 be out in the field because he's too young, too 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:13.220 green, that kind of thing. It doesn't make sense 00:21:13.220 --> 00:21:15.359 that he would leave him on his own as that guy, 00:21:15.460 --> 00:21:19.500 in my mind. Now, thinking of it in the way of 00:21:19.500 --> 00:21:23.079 Cassius slash Paul wants Ben to kind of like 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:26.559 get caught and die. Maybe that's what it is, 00:21:26.619 --> 00:21:29.140 that kind of thing. I don't know. Maybe not. 00:21:31.089 --> 00:21:33.170 Paul doesn't get to the guy in the brown coat 00:21:33.170 --> 00:21:36.410 before Ben does. Now, the guy in the brown coat 00:21:36.410 --> 00:21:40.190 does get away. And Paul and Ben kind of reconvene. 00:21:40.630 --> 00:21:43.390 And Paul's just like, it's got to be our guy. 00:21:43.470 --> 00:21:45.109 It's got to be our guy. You know, trying to deflect 00:21:45.109 --> 00:21:47.670 blame. And Ben goes, no, he's not our guy. He 00:21:47.670 --> 00:21:49.869 definitely wasn't the guy. I just wanted to arrest 00:21:49.869 --> 00:21:52.029 him and see what he knew. So that's it for the 00:21:52.029 --> 00:21:55.730 day after Brutus gets murdered. Paul is then 00:21:55.730 --> 00:22:00.819 invited over to Ben's house. That's where we 00:22:00.819 --> 00:22:05.539 meet Natalie. Natalie is Ben's wife, and she's 00:22:05.539 --> 00:22:09.119 played by Odette Annabelle. Annable? Annable, 00:22:09.259 --> 00:22:14.220 maybe? Maybe Annable. A -N -N -A -B -L -E. That's 00:22:14.220 --> 00:22:21.019 what it is. I don't know. So, Odette has been 00:22:21.019 --> 00:22:25.500 in movies like Cloverfield. There's You Again. 00:22:25.740 --> 00:22:28.759 She was in 60 episodes of the Walker, Texas Ranger 00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:33.619 reboot. 24 episodes of Supergirl. You know, she's 00:22:33.619 --> 00:22:36.619 been around, especially like TV. She's been around. 00:22:37.059 --> 00:22:39.380 So I don't know if this was a line or not when 00:22:39.380 --> 00:22:43.039 Natalie meets Paul, but she says, let us welcome 00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:46.960 you to our humble commode. I don't know if that's 00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:49.220 what she was meant to say, but that's definitely 00:22:49.220 --> 00:22:52.740 what she did say. It didn't make sense in my 00:22:52.740 --> 00:22:55.480 mind. I don't know. I wasn't fully focused on 00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:59.880 this conversation, but you know. So as they're 00:22:59.880 --> 00:23:03.079 coming in, Ben asks, hey, what can I get you 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:06.480 to drink? And Paul says a vodka martini with 00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:10.000 an onion. And Ben goes, hey, that's Cassius's 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:14.299 drink. And he basically says, oh, yeah, like 00:23:14.299 --> 00:23:17.380 I wanted to get into shoes and I started drinking 00:23:17.380 --> 00:23:22.440 them and I kind of like them now. Ben also makes 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:25.019 himself one so that he's kind of thinking like, 00:23:25.059 --> 00:23:27.380 oh, yeah, I want to learn about him, too. I want 00:23:27.380 --> 00:23:29.759 to get into his shoes. So I'll follow in your 00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:32.240 footsteps, which is really Cassius's footsteps. 00:23:33.859 --> 00:23:35.960 As they're having this conversation at dinner 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:39.740 and everything like that, we learn why Ben has 00:23:39.740 --> 00:23:43.240 put so much of his career into chasing Cassius 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:47.160 and the Cassius Seven. Ben respects Cassius because 00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:50.829 he's the best at something. You know, and that's 00:23:50.829 --> 00:23:53.250 Ben doesn't feel like he's the best at anything. 00:23:53.430 --> 00:23:56.890 And so that's kind of why he's following him. 00:23:57.170 --> 00:23:59.630 And Paul tells him not to respect him because 00:23:59.630 --> 00:24:02.150 Cassius is a cold blooded killer. And the best 00:24:02.150 --> 00:24:04.869 thing he did was disappear. And this is kind 00:24:04.869 --> 00:24:07.130 of like a metaphor for himself. He's glad that 00:24:07.130 --> 00:24:10.170 he retired and got out of there. And this was 00:24:10.170 --> 00:24:14.849 the best thing for him. So Ben, after this conversation, 00:24:15.069 --> 00:24:18.119 all of a sudden has to pee. and walks away and 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:20.740 Paul lets Natalie know that Cassius definitely 00:24:20.740 --> 00:24:23.460 knows about her husband and he needs to be careful 00:24:23.460 --> 00:24:26.579 what he's messing with and is more so through 00:24:26.579 --> 00:24:29.759 Natalie trying to get him to drop the case again 00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:34.619 again it seems like kind of not exactly takes 00:24:34.619 --> 00:24:37.160 a liking to but he just doesn't want to see this 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:40.460 young kid get killed and especially at his own 00:24:40.460 --> 00:24:42.539 hand because he doesn't want to blow his cover 00:24:42.539 --> 00:24:46.180 so after a wonderful evening like this Uh, Paul 00:24:46.180 --> 00:24:48.740 goes home and when he gets there, he notices 00:24:48.740 --> 00:24:50.920 that the car that was outside his house watching 00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:53.900 him the other day, no longer there. So he's feeling 00:24:53.900 --> 00:24:55.799 a little better about it. Maybe they're not like 00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:58.000 right on his tail anymore, especially with the 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:00.700 brown coat guy in the wind. Like this could be 00:25:00.700 --> 00:25:03.720 the moment where, okay, he can get away with 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:06.339 this because maybe if he finds this brown coat 00:25:06.339 --> 00:25:09.519 guy, he can blame him. Say, Hey, I found Cassius. 00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:12.839 He's dead. So while Paul's getting a good night's 00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:15.839 sleep, let's take a little break. to tell you 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:19.279 about the podcast that guessed the bad movie 00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:22.720 first. It is Screen Nerds Podcast that has been 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:25.039 featured on this show before. It is a podcast 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:28.079 for film lovers by film lovers. 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I'm probably 00:26:04.059 --> 00:26:06.079 going to check it out, and then I will probably 00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:08.000 listen to the Screen Nerds podcast talk about 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:11.190 it. So the Screen Nerds podcast, congratulations 00:26:11.190 --> 00:26:15.710 to you guys for guessing the double correctly 00:26:15.710 --> 00:26:19.910 first as the podcast to guess it first. Shout 00:26:19.910 --> 00:26:23.210 out to you. Let's get back to when Paul wakes 00:26:23.210 --> 00:26:27.029 up from his nice little sleep with nobody watching 00:26:27.029 --> 00:26:29.569 him. So it's the next day and they go back to 00:26:29.569 --> 00:26:31.930 the briefing room that was at the start of this 00:26:31.930 --> 00:26:34.730 movie, the CIA briefing room, and they get told 00:26:34.730 --> 00:26:37.430 about the Russians who snuck across the border. 00:26:37.819 --> 00:26:42.200 including Boslowski. Boslowski is a ghost pretty 00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:45.500 much, and he's never been caught. And so Paul's 00:26:45.500 --> 00:26:48.900 kind of throwing it like, okay, we've got this 00:26:48.900 --> 00:26:51.759 Boslowski. You know, there's some times where 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:54.079 there's some overlap. He knows that Boslowski 00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:56.519 is part of this and everything like that. So 00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:59.019 he starts to convince everyone that Boslowski 00:26:59.019 --> 00:27:04.980 is Cassius. So Paul has a lead where he can try 00:27:04.980 --> 00:27:08.329 to figure out where this guy is. and so Paul 00:27:08.329 --> 00:27:11.529 and Ben go to this project house where Paul goes 00:27:11.529 --> 00:27:13.809 into the secret room but Ben isn't allowed in 00:27:13.809 --> 00:27:17.369 there and so there's like this long wait you 00:27:17.369 --> 00:27:20.730 wait with Ben outside of the room versus Paul 00:27:20.730 --> 00:27:23.589 who's like getting the name and so he comes back 00:27:23.589 --> 00:27:28.170 out and he gets the name Amber and so Paul has 00:27:28.170 --> 00:27:30.509 dealt with Amber before and knows that she's 00:27:30.509 --> 00:27:32.920 a prostitute And so Ben like asked him like, 00:27:33.019 --> 00:27:35.799 wait, Amber is a prostitute. And Paul goes, if 00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:38.000 the Russians use their women instead of missiles, 00:27:38.220 --> 00:27:42.180 we'd all be wearing fuzzy hats right now. This 00:27:42.180 --> 00:27:45.420 is the best line of the film. Cause it's true. 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:48.319 Let's face it. And especially cause Amber is 00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:54.059 stunning. Um, I think I'm saying that right. 00:27:54.140 --> 00:27:56.460 Actually. I was like questioning myself. I think 00:27:56.460 --> 00:27:59.359 I actually got it this time. Stana Katic, who 00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:03.799 you may recognize from Castle. She is the detective 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:08.299 in the Castle series. Gorgeous. Let's just call 00:28:08.299 --> 00:28:10.960 it what it is. She is absolutely fantastic looking. 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:14.559 I'm not afraid to say that. She also, besides 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:22.509 playing Kate Beckett in Castle. She also has 00:28:22.509 --> 00:28:26.230 played Lois Lane in Superman Unbound. Lots of 00:28:26.230 --> 00:28:28.390 voice roles. She's Wonder Woman in a lot of the 00:28:28.390 --> 00:28:31.190 DC animated movies. She's definitely going to 00:28:31.190 --> 00:28:33.730 the voice role versus like on screen. And she 00:28:33.730 --> 00:28:35.549 was also in Quantum of Solace. I forgot that 00:28:35.549 --> 00:28:41.009 as well. But yeah, so Stania Kotich is Amber, 00:28:41.130 --> 00:28:46.150 the prostitute who is Russian. And so they go 00:28:46.150 --> 00:28:50.089 to this trailer park by the river and basically. 00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:53.960 Paul gets out first and says, we're looking for 00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:57.500 Amber. And her neighbor at first is like, no, 00:28:57.599 --> 00:28:59.000 I'm not going to help you or anything like that. 00:28:59.539 --> 00:29:03.859 And so then they get told that her trailer is 00:29:03.859 --> 00:29:07.000 the closest to the river. So Ben goes into the 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:11.640 trailer and tries to figure out anything slash 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:16.220 find if Amber's there. And Amber sneaks out the 00:29:16.220 --> 00:29:19.519 back. And Paul... rushes after her is able to 00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:24.059 grab her and like throws her into the river and 00:29:24.059 --> 00:29:27.000 holds her at gunpoint and he threatens to shoot 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:30.000 her and dump her in the river but ben convinces 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:32.880 him to let him talk to her paul kind of goes 00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:34.859 over the edge and ben's kind of like the good 00:29:34.859 --> 00:29:39.279 cop to his bad cop so paul uh lets ben talk to 00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:43.980 him uh let's ben talk to her and to like make 00:29:43.980 --> 00:29:47.619 a connection with her Ben shows a picture of 00:29:47.619 --> 00:29:52.000 his kids and then gives her a phone and says, 00:29:52.099 --> 00:29:56.059 can you help us find this Bozlovsky? She calls 00:29:56.059 --> 00:30:01.519 Leo. Leo is Amber's brother. Leo is played by 00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:07.980 Yuri Sardarov. And Yuri Sardarov, the main thing 00:30:07.980 --> 00:30:10.019 you'd recognize him from and the main thing I 00:30:10.019 --> 00:30:13.569 know him from is Chicago Fire. He plays Brian 00:30:13.569 --> 00:30:18.450 Zavonichek in Chicago Fire and PD and medical, 00:30:18.609 --> 00:30:20.809 all of the crossovers, everything like that. 00:30:20.910 --> 00:30:23.369 He's also in the movie Argo. He's also in the 00:30:23.369 --> 00:30:25.950 Ides of March movie. He's been in a lot of stuff. 00:30:26.170 --> 00:30:31.509 He also had a role in FBI International. He was 00:30:31.509 --> 00:30:33.930 in two episodes of The Rookie. He's making all 00:30:33.930 --> 00:30:38.880 of these stops on these TV shows. and this is 00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:41.799 definitely he must have a working connection 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:46.380 with the writers and director because remember 00:30:46.380 --> 00:30:49.119 how i said those guys have been writing or executive 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.680 producing for chicago pd chicago med that kind 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:57.500 of stuff so this guy has a little bit of he's 00:30:57.500 --> 00:31:00.960 worked with them before so leo comes to try to 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:06.349 help amber and when he does he is bombarded by 00:31:06.349 --> 00:31:13.109 both ben and paul and basically they are they 00:31:13.109 --> 00:31:17.369 say we're looking for bozalowski he goes i can 00:31:17.369 --> 00:31:21.269 help you get to him and paul then says he's he's 00:31:21.269 --> 00:31:23.890 becoming more and more slightly unhinged paul 00:31:23.890 --> 00:31:26.250 says if you're lying i will shoot her in the 00:31:26.250 --> 00:31:30.089 head and then you so they hop into a car with 00:31:30.089 --> 00:31:36.099 yuri and yuri takes paul and ben to This factory, 00:31:36.220 --> 00:31:40.680 like it's an abandoned factory. Paul is following 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:45.940 Yuri in and he tells Ben to watch the door. Again, 00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:49.099 this is showing that Paul's trying to get some 00:31:49.099 --> 00:31:52.140 separation from Ben. Part of it might be to protect 00:31:52.140 --> 00:31:55.400 him. Part of it might be to kill Boslowski and 00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.019 then say, oh, he pulled the gun on me. He is 00:31:59.019 --> 00:32:02.859 Cassius. It's over now. You know, that kind of 00:32:02.859 --> 00:32:06.089 thing. Leo takes Paul to this like control room 00:32:06.089 --> 00:32:08.269 in the middle of the factory. And wouldn't you 00:32:08.269 --> 00:32:10.569 know it, he was true to his word. Boslowski is 00:32:10.569 --> 00:32:14.309 there. Paul says to him that he's there because 00:32:14.309 --> 00:32:17.970 they think Boslowski is Cassius. And when he 00:32:17.970 --> 00:32:21.289 does that, Leo pulls a gun on Paul and has it 00:32:21.289 --> 00:32:24.470 at the back of his head. And Boslowski is kind 00:32:24.470 --> 00:32:26.329 of like laughing, you know, and he tells him 00:32:26.329 --> 00:32:28.589 he becomes Cassius if they need him to be. So 00:32:28.589 --> 00:32:30.769 he's been kind of like pretending to be Cassius 00:32:30.769 --> 00:32:33.940 when Cassius can't be found. And so he's like 00:32:33.940 --> 00:32:36.700 the big guy in charge when they can't find the 00:32:36.700 --> 00:32:40.000 actual big guy. So Paul, while being held at 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:44.240 gunpoint, tells Bozlovsky that he is Cassius 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:47.619 and he is able to grab Leo's gun and then fire 00:32:47.619 --> 00:32:51.599 at Bozlovsky. Bozlovsky gets away, but Paul pulls 00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:54.500 his wire and kills Leo like immediately, one 00:32:54.500 --> 00:32:57.299 fell swoop. And because the gunshots have been 00:32:57.299 --> 00:32:59.500 fired, Ben hears them and he's trying to run 00:32:59.500 --> 00:33:02.950 upstairs and he finds Leo's body. Paul is chasing 00:33:02.950 --> 00:33:05.789 after Boslowski, who ends up giving him the slip. 00:33:06.210 --> 00:33:09.309 And Paul is trying to decide now if he goes back 00:33:09.309 --> 00:33:15.390 or if he keeps going. And so Paul goes and drives 00:33:15.390 --> 00:33:20.029 away. Ben, while he's like analyzing Leo's body, 00:33:20.150 --> 00:33:24.890 kind of realizes, wait, Leo was killed by a wire. 00:33:26.109 --> 00:33:29.509 Is Paul Cassius? Like it's starting to click 00:33:29.509 --> 00:33:32.460 all of a sudden, slowly but surely. So he goes 00:33:32.460 --> 00:33:35.759 back to his office, brings his buddy Oliver more 00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:39.500 in on this, mostly because his buddy is good 00:33:39.500 --> 00:33:41.839 at tracking people. That's one of his specialties. 00:33:42.299 --> 00:33:44.859 So he reveals to Oliver that he thinks Paul might 00:33:44.859 --> 00:33:50.279 be Cassius. This also then goes to Natalie, who 00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:54.440 works at the bookshop. And Paul shows up and 00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.720 basically saves her from falling off a ladder. 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.019 So she's like happy to see him and everything 00:34:02.019 --> 00:34:04.940 like that. And Paul tells her, like, get Ben 00:34:04.940 --> 00:34:07.220 to ask off the case because he's getting very 00:34:07.220 --> 00:34:10.000 close to this dangerous man. Again, trying to 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:13.860 get him to drop the case because he knows if 00:34:13.860 --> 00:34:15.960 he goes any further, he's going to have to kill 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:18.500 him. Like this is this is too close. He's now 00:34:18.500 --> 00:34:23.480 at that point where. If Ben doesn't drop it, 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:26.039 he's going to have to kill Ben. Natalie gets 00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:29.019 a little like weirded out by it. but says that 00:34:29.019 --> 00:34:31.920 she will tell him to drop the case. Oliver and 00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:34.860 Ben have put together this crime board at the 00:34:34.860 --> 00:34:37.300 same time, and in all of the pictures of the 00:34:37.300 --> 00:34:41.500 Cassius crimes, Paul is in each one. And that's 00:34:41.500 --> 00:34:45.199 the logic Ben jumps to about, remember how he 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:48.260 said that Cassius likes to go and revisit all 00:34:48.260 --> 00:34:51.699 of his crimes? So Paul being there makes sense. 00:34:51.699 --> 00:34:55.920 This is obvious him. But he also was like the 00:34:55.920 --> 00:35:00.380 CIA agent in charge of that case. So it's like, 00:35:00.380 --> 00:35:03.920 is he really Cassius? Like, this is the question 00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:07.059 I'm asking. He's certain. Like, he knows now 00:35:07.059 --> 00:35:11.039 that Paul is Cassius. But in my mind, like, he 00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:14.900 would be there anyway. Even if he wasn't Cassius, 00:35:14.940 --> 00:35:17.880 he'd be there because he's the CIA agent in charge 00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:24.230 of the case. So why is this the, like... logic 00:35:24.230 --> 00:35:29.630 that he is definitely Cassius I don't know he's 00:35:29.630 --> 00:35:35.230 certain now and so now he doesn't know does Paul 00:35:35.230 --> 00:35:37.869 know that Ben knows does Ben know that Paul knows 00:35:37.869 --> 00:35:40.510 that kind of thing like it's a cat and mouse 00:35:40.510 --> 00:35:45.150 game right now so Ben does like an obvious drop 00:35:45.150 --> 00:35:49.789 of information that Paul sees and grabs also 00:35:49.789 --> 00:35:53.780 Ben then goes home And says his goodbyes to his 00:35:53.780 --> 00:35:55.760 family. Says goodbye to Natalie. Says goodbye 00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:01.019 to their infant son. He is going to try to finish 00:36:01.019 --> 00:36:03.559 this case. And Natalie tries to talk him out 00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:05.659 of it. But he's just like, no, I'm too close 00:36:05.659 --> 00:36:07.840 now. I need to do this. I need to get it done. 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:09.940 Otherwise, I'm never going to be able to sleep. 00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:12.059 That kind of thing. I'm never going to be able 00:36:12.059 --> 00:36:15.260 to live with myself. So after he says his goodbyes, 00:36:15.260 --> 00:36:18.159 he gets to his car. And on his windshield is 00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:20.650 a picture left there. And this picture is of 00:36:20.650 --> 00:36:24.949 Paul, this woman, and this child. And so Ben's 00:36:24.949 --> 00:36:27.710 just like, who is this? I've got to get back 00:36:27.710 --> 00:36:30.289 to the office and do more research. And this 00:36:30.289 --> 00:36:34.030 is where he gets to Geneva, 1988. In Geneva, 00:36:34.170 --> 00:36:39.269 1988, Boslowski killed Paul's wife and son. And 00:36:39.269 --> 00:36:45.889 so Paul created Cassius to get revenge and kill 00:36:45.889 --> 00:36:49.389 the seven. So basically he brought like the worst 00:36:49.389 --> 00:36:52.449 of the worst together and he was taking them 00:36:52.449 --> 00:36:55.510 all out one by one because he wanted revenge 00:36:55.510 --> 00:36:57.710 for his wife and son. And one of those people 00:36:57.710 --> 00:37:00.650 was supposed to be Boslowski. Ben goes back to 00:37:00.650 --> 00:37:03.070 this project house that we got the name Amber 00:37:03.070 --> 00:37:05.409 from and he goes in and he figures out where 00:37:05.409 --> 00:37:07.510 Paul went. Again, we don't see in this project 00:37:07.510 --> 00:37:09.510 house, so who knows what information he gets, 00:37:09.590 --> 00:37:12.210 how he gets it, whatever. So Boslowski is at 00:37:12.210 --> 00:37:16.150 a port and Paul is watching him. Basically, Bozalowski 00:37:16.150 --> 00:37:20.090 is waiting for a shipment to get in. And so Paul, 00:37:20.289 --> 00:37:26.550 like, gets caught looking at him. And Bozalowski 00:37:26.550 --> 00:37:29.230 gets in a car and they go on this huge car chase. 00:37:29.550 --> 00:37:32.010 And it's around the port like over and over and 00:37:32.010 --> 00:37:33.590 over again. It's like three or four times around 00:37:33.590 --> 00:37:36.269 the port. And the car chase ends with Paul's 00:37:36.269 --> 00:37:39.849 car flipping and Bozalowski able to get out and 00:37:39.849 --> 00:37:43.000 hold Paul at gunpoint. Because movie has to movie 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:44.940 and we know that Paul's not going to die at this 00:37:44.940 --> 00:37:48.320 point. Ben gets there just in the nick of time 00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:51.440 to like hold his gun at Bozalowski and shoot 00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:55.239 at him. Missing. But he stopped Paul from getting 00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:58.659 killed and Bozalowski runs away. Instead of chasing 00:37:58.659 --> 00:38:02.059 after him, Ben calls out Paul in the middle of 00:38:02.059 --> 00:38:04.579 the port. And they're about to have this big 00:38:04.579 --> 00:38:08.380 reveal. You know, Paul is about to reveal. that 00:38:08.380 --> 00:38:10.920 he's Cassius to Ben. That's what we think is 00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:14.280 the big reveal. No, the big reveal is that the 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.139 drop Ben tried to make is a 30 -year -old Soviet 00:38:17.139 --> 00:38:22.559 code. And Paul now knows that Ben is a double 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.800 agent from Russia and was recently activated. 00:38:25.820 --> 00:38:28.559 He was the one that killed the senator to lure 00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:31.760 Cassius out. And basically what he was told is 00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:34.199 he needs to clear the country out for the new 00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.719 arrival of spies from Russia. With Cassius alive, 00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:40.679 Russia believes that he is going to continue 00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:44.119 to kill their spies. So he needed to get Cassius 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:48.360 out and basically clear the way so all these 00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:51.340 spies could come from Russia. He also admitted 00:38:51.340 --> 00:38:54.280 that he was supposed to capture Cassius and bring 00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:57.659 him back to Moscow tonight. Paul's at a disadvantage. 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:01.039 Ben's got the gun and Paul is like injured because 00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:03.800 of his car chase and everything like that. Instead 00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:07.170 of grabbing Paul. and going to Moscow, Ben decides 00:39:07.170 --> 00:39:10.809 that he can convince them that Bozlovsky is Cassius. 00:39:12.510 --> 00:39:14.869 Basically, turn the other cheek and say, well, 00:39:15.050 --> 00:39:19.670 if we kill Bozlovsky, he is kind of Cassius, 00:39:19.670 --> 00:39:22.489 you know, so now they can work together. Team 00:39:22.489 --> 00:39:26.050 up, bros. You know, that kind of thing. Bozlovsky 00:39:26.050 --> 00:39:29.250 is hurt, and he is cornered in the port. Ben 00:39:29.250 --> 00:39:32.170 is looking for him while Paul is looking at the 00:39:32.170 --> 00:39:33.989 camera feed to try to figure out where he is. 00:39:34.829 --> 00:39:37.670 ben sees like this body down and goes to look 00:39:37.670 --> 00:39:40.190 at it but paul sees that bozlovsky is like hiding 00:39:40.190 --> 00:39:42.090 in the shadows waiting for him so as soon as 00:39:42.090 --> 00:39:44.389 ben gets to a certain level boz is gonna like 00:39:44.389 --> 00:39:49.269 jump out paul catches boz's attention but he 00:39:49.269 --> 00:39:53.550 does get shot now ben has a chance and he turns 00:39:53.550 --> 00:39:58.909 around but he gets kneed in the nuts so ben is 00:39:58.909 --> 00:40:02.219 crumpled on the ground Paul, even though he's 00:40:02.219 --> 00:40:04.300 been shot and Boz, even though he's injured, 00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:06.900 they get into this fist fight. Ben collects his 00:40:06.900 --> 00:40:09.260 breath and his gun, but he doesn't shoot Paul, 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:13.820 the real Cassius. And then basically he, he lets 00:40:13.820 --> 00:40:16.840 them fight it out. Cause one of these two guys 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:18.579 is probably going to die. And that's the one 00:40:18.579 --> 00:40:21.119 he's going to try to convince Russia is Cassius. 00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:24.099 So either way, he's going to look like a hero, 00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:28.179 you know? So he doesn't shoot. He just holds 00:40:28.179 --> 00:40:31.300 the gun up. And Paul is able to wrap his wire 00:40:31.300 --> 00:40:35.400 around Boslowski's neck and kill him. Then he 00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:39.440 tells Ben to go home. Like you don't have to 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:42.039 go to Russia, go home. And he succumbs to his 00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:47.480 wounds and dies. When the group gets there, basically 00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:51.199 Ben is like still on the ground kind of thing. 00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:54.960 But he's able to explain how the wire came out 00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:59.219 of the watch. However. What we didn't see him 00:40:59.219 --> 00:41:04.000 do and what didn't happen on camera is Ben was 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:07.699 able to switch the watch from Paul's wrist to 00:41:07.699 --> 00:41:11.780 Bozalowski's. So he's able to convince most of 00:41:11.780 --> 00:41:15.480 the people that Bozalowski is Cassius. Hyland 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.539 is definitely skeptical. He definitely is like, 00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:23.960 no, this doesn't make sense. Instead of digging 00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.500 deeper, I think he was kind of like, OK, with 00:41:26.500 --> 00:41:30.179 the fact that, look, both of them are dead. I'd 00:41:30.179 --> 00:41:33.960 rather just let Paul be a hero. And not dig any 00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:39.420 deeper. So Ben says they were, Buzlovsky was 00:41:39.420 --> 00:41:41.739 waiting for a ship and they go explore it. And 00:41:41.739 --> 00:41:44.599 basically there's just a ton of weapons that 00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:48.039 were on the ship, like a ton. So all these Russian 00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:50.460 spies were going to get all these weapons and 00:41:50.460 --> 00:41:54.349 everything like that. So Ben's a hero. He saved 00:41:54.349 --> 00:41:56.949 the day. He killed Cassius, who they think is 00:41:56.949 --> 00:42:00.730 Bozalowski. The real Cassius is dead. Now he 00:42:00.730 --> 00:42:02.530 needs to figure out what he's going to do. Is 00:42:02.530 --> 00:42:06.750 he going to go to Moscow and tell them that Cassius 00:42:06.750 --> 00:42:09.369 is dead? Or is he going to go back to his family? 00:42:09.989 --> 00:42:13.130 As he's walking away, Hyland turns and asks him 00:42:13.130 --> 00:42:16.190 if he would work for the CIA. Because remember, 00:42:16.329 --> 00:42:20.190 he's FBI. But it also is very unclear. It seems 00:42:20.190 --> 00:42:23.949 more so like Hyland's asking him, do you want 00:42:23.949 --> 00:42:26.869 to work for the Americans versus like the Russians? 00:42:27.030 --> 00:42:31.090 Like he's offering him this life in America versus 00:42:31.090 --> 00:42:33.289 with the Russians. And maybe I'm reading way 00:42:33.289 --> 00:42:35.690 into this movie. I don't know if this is actually 00:42:35.690 --> 00:42:37.590 what it was or anything like that. It's very 00:42:37.590 --> 00:42:40.690 unclear. But that's the way I took it was that 00:42:40.690 --> 00:42:42.369 he was offering him a chance to work with the 00:42:42.369 --> 00:42:44.690 Americans. He kind of pieced together that he 00:42:44.690 --> 00:42:48.670 was Russian. So maybe that was the chance. I 00:42:48.670 --> 00:42:53.150 don't know. So he says, maybe I'll let you know 00:42:53.150 --> 00:42:57.090 tomorrow. And though he's a Russian double agent 00:42:57.090 --> 00:43:01.010 and everything like that, Ben decides he likes 00:43:01.010 --> 00:43:03.650 his life. He goes back to Natalie and his newborn 00:43:03.650 --> 00:43:07.550 and everything like that. So he is, at least 00:43:07.550 --> 00:43:13.289 for now, going to stay on American soil. The 00:43:13.289 --> 00:43:17.090 end. So that's the double. Um, like I said, I 00:43:17.090 --> 00:43:19.329 have a conversation starter about this, but first 00:43:19.329 --> 00:43:21.170 I'll get the important stuff out of the way. 00:43:21.369 --> 00:43:25.170 Um, one out of five, that's what I got. One out 00:43:25.170 --> 00:43:27.289 of five, like wires from watch kind of thing. 00:43:28.090 --> 00:43:32.389 Is it awful? No. Is it life changing? No. Um, 00:43:32.590 --> 00:43:35.949 Richard gear, especially he went like the subtle 00:43:35.949 --> 00:43:38.449 route in this and then toe for grace is kind 00:43:38.449 --> 00:43:42.650 of just toe for gracing. Um, you know, it's not, 00:43:42.650 --> 00:43:46.260 it's not Shakespeare. It's not, like this super 00:43:46.260 --> 00:43:50.059 intense political thriller but it was fine enough 00:43:50.059 --> 00:43:53.980 uh i i think what definitely ruins part of it 00:43:53.980 --> 00:43:57.159 is revealing that ben is also a secret agent 00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:01.480 you know also like a double agent and that the 00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:03.760 reason he did his master's thesis was to draw 00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:07.039 him out of hiding to get to the fbi he killed 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.739 the senator like that kind of stuff it just doesn't 00:44:09.739 --> 00:44:15.289 make a lot of sense um fine whatever i mean like 00:44:15.289 --> 00:44:20.250 i'm willing to suspend that overall it could 00:44:20.250 --> 00:44:23.070 have been worse i definitely have it in the realm 00:44:23.070 --> 00:44:25.429 of movies like edison that i've watched for this 00:44:25.429 --> 00:44:29.710 podcast edison was not great but there are much 00:44:29.710 --> 00:44:33.309 worse movies out there so i think i think this 00:44:33.309 --> 00:44:35.829 was fine i don't think this is life change i 00:44:35.829 --> 00:44:38.329 don't think this is anything that's like oh yeah 00:44:38.329 --> 00:44:42.599 you should definitely watch this movie um But 00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:46.980 overall, it was fine. So I'll say one out of 00:44:46.980 --> 00:44:51.039 five wires out of a watch, that kind of thing. 00:44:51.699 --> 00:44:55.139 My thought and what I wanted to start this conversation 00:44:55.139 --> 00:45:00.099 was about this. I liked the idea that we knew 00:45:00.099 --> 00:45:06.280 very early on that Paul was Cassius. Obviously, 00:45:06.380 --> 00:45:08.599 they didn't feel comfortable enough with that. 00:45:08.619 --> 00:45:10.679 So they did the second twist that Ben was also 00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:14.800 a double agent. But I liked the idea if there 00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:19.039 was no other twist, just if Ben just learned 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:21.519 that Paul was Cassius, I think that was better 00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.159 for the movie overall. And I liked the idea that 00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:27.579 we kind of knew ahead of time. And so some of 00:45:27.579 --> 00:45:30.360 these things that he was doing, you kind of had 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.519 more of like a question towards him. You know, 00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:36.059 it was kind of like, OK, is he telling Ben to. 00:45:36.809 --> 00:45:39.650 split up because he's trying to protect him or 00:45:39.650 --> 00:45:41.989 is it because he really does want him to get 00:45:41.989 --> 00:45:44.389 killed and then and he doesn't want that blood 00:45:44.389 --> 00:45:47.289 on his hands like he thinks he's scot -free because 00:45:47.289 --> 00:45:49.429 the guy in the brown coat killed him you know 00:45:49.429 --> 00:45:54.309 that kind of thing um overall i think that worked 00:45:54.309 --> 00:45:57.769 a lot better for this movie and i wanted to bring 00:45:57.769 --> 00:46:02.110 up the fact I don't know if that could work with 00:46:02.110 --> 00:46:04.030 a lot of movies. I think it would have worked 00:46:04.030 --> 00:46:05.650 really well for this movie if they would have 00:46:05.650 --> 00:46:08.389 done it that way instead, where they didn't need 00:46:08.389 --> 00:46:11.510 a second twist like that. I think the biggest 00:46:11.510 --> 00:46:15.010 part of the climax was supposed to be Ben figuring 00:46:15.010 --> 00:46:18.170 out that Paul was Cassius. And truthfully, it 00:46:18.170 --> 00:46:21.630 was. It was a big point in that movie where all 00:46:21.630 --> 00:46:24.250 of a sudden he kind of realizes. And even though 00:46:24.250 --> 00:46:26.550 I told you I had my grapes about the fact that, 00:46:26.550 --> 00:46:30.820 yes. Paul would have been at these scenes anyway, 00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:34.659 so why did that automatically make him Cassius? 00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:40.199 I don't know if that was a big deal, but I think 00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:42.860 it was a very cool moment when he finally realizes, 00:46:42.980 --> 00:46:47.880 yeah, I might be working with the bad guy. So 00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:51.920 I like that idea. I thought that was a great 00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:56.739 idea. I want to know from you guys that are listening 00:46:56.739 --> 00:46:58.760 to this, do you know of any other movies that 00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:00.820 do stuff like that where you know very early 00:47:00.820 --> 00:47:04.920 on? I think it works. I really do. It does make 00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.420 it kind of feel like a procedural crime show 00:47:07.420 --> 00:47:10.579 a little bit where you know the bad guy, but 00:47:10.579 --> 00:47:14.440 the main characters don't know. But at the same 00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:16.300 time, I think it worked for this movie. Even 00:47:16.300 --> 00:47:18.599 though Richard Gere's performance was kind of 00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:20.860 a little hollow and a little bit more subtle, 00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:24.730 and I don't think it worked very well. uh it 00:47:24.730 --> 00:47:28.670 does also add a little drama with these scenes 00:47:28.670 --> 00:47:32.050 where like leo takes him to meet bozlovsky and 00:47:32.050 --> 00:47:34.690 bozlovsky doesn't know that he's cassius and 00:47:34.690 --> 00:47:38.369 that's another thing bozlovsky doesn't know that 00:47:38.369 --> 00:47:41.730 he's cassius you know that kind of thing so it 00:47:41.730 --> 00:47:43.610 does add a little drama to this because like 00:47:43.610 --> 00:47:47.550 to them they're going this guy's not cassius 00:47:47.550 --> 00:47:49.769 and then all of a sudden he's whipping around 00:47:49.769 --> 00:47:52.409 shooting at you with leo's gun and then kills 00:47:52.409 --> 00:47:57.039 leo With a wire from his. Watch you know so. 00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:02.320 I think it worked. In this aspect. Of like revealing 00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:06.199 this early. I know sometimes. A lot of movies 00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:08.519 that's not going to be the case. But for me that 00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:12.360 worked in this one. I want to know. If you guys 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:16.340 think that. More movies should try this. Do you 00:48:16.340 --> 00:48:18.820 think this is a good idea. I don't know if it's 00:48:18.820 --> 00:48:21.219 a good idea for all movies. But certain movies 00:48:21.219 --> 00:48:25.000 maybe. There's certain movies that come to mind 00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:26.900 immediately that I think it was better that you 00:48:26.900 --> 00:48:29.460 didn't know. But then there's also some movies 00:48:29.460 --> 00:48:32.039 that I think it would be kind of better if you 00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:34.300 did know. The one that's stuck in my head right 00:48:34.300 --> 00:48:38.059 now is Mission Impossible Fallout. Spoiler alert 00:48:38.059 --> 00:48:41.639 if you haven't seen it. Henry Cavill being a 00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:45.179 double agent kind of thing. I actually think 00:48:45.179 --> 00:48:48.380 it might work with that movie. Even though Fallout 00:48:48.380 --> 00:48:51.059 was great the way it was, I think it could have 00:48:51.059 --> 00:48:54.360 worked either way. so I don't know that's that's 00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:59.159 my idea with this one I I'm trying to think of 00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:01.039 other movies where I think it could have worked 00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:04.860 like that so overall that's my thoughts on this 00:49:04.860 --> 00:49:06.900 like this is the conversation I wanted to have 00:49:06.900 --> 00:49:09.699 that I think it worked for this one in particular 00:49:09.699 --> 00:49:11.780 I'm trying to find something positive about this 00:49:11.780 --> 00:49:14.940 movie like this to talk about because like I 00:49:14.940 --> 00:49:17.059 can focus on all the bad everything about it 00:49:17.059 --> 00:49:22.519 um but the good from this I think that other 00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:25.500 things could take from this was revealing early 00:49:25.500 --> 00:49:28.179 on that Paul was the double agent. They shot 00:49:28.179 --> 00:49:30.000 themselves on the foot by making Ben a double 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:33.420 agent as well. And like the performances aren't 00:49:33.420 --> 00:49:38.119 the best, but you know, it's, it could have been 00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:43.019 a lot worse. That's what I'll say. So, um, yeah, 00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:47.880 that's my thoughts on the double. If you guys 00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:49.900 have seen this, let me know. Are there other 00:49:49.900 --> 00:49:53.260 bad political thrillers that I should include 00:49:53.260 --> 00:49:57.159 later on in the show, especially when it comes 00:49:57.159 --> 00:49:59.039 to November like this? There's going to be more 00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:01.059 election days, that kind of thing. But yeah, 00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:04.659 so that's my thoughts on The Double. Could have 00:50:04.659 --> 00:50:07.039 been worse, could have been better. Could have 00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:10.579 been a lot of things. So, you know, is it a good 00:50:10.579 --> 00:50:15.579 movie? No. Is it the worst thing? No. I definitely... 00:50:16.460 --> 00:50:19.579 I'm not going to watch it again, but if you haven't 00:50:19.579 --> 00:50:21.619 seen it and you want to watch it, I think you 00:50:21.619 --> 00:50:25.599 could watch it and find something enjoyable out 00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:29.519 of it. Is it amazing? No, but you could find 00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.079 something that you'd find enjoyable about it. 00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:34.119 I think there's a lot of things about it that 00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:36.840 it did pretty okay. The big thing being that 00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:40.019 we knew he was Cassius from the start. I think 00:50:40.019 --> 00:50:42.380 that was good overall. I like the idea of the 00:50:42.380 --> 00:50:46.840 Cassius 7, that whole... cell of Russian spies 00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:51.579 that are modeled after the Roman assassins of 00:50:51.579 --> 00:50:55.260 Caesar. I think that's a good idea. I almost 00:50:55.260 --> 00:50:56.980 wish we would have seen more of that, though, 00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.579 because really all we saw was Baslovsky getting 00:50:59.579 --> 00:51:03.380 killed and then Brutus. And that's really it. 00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:05.780 Like, we really didn't see anything more than 00:51:05.780 --> 00:51:09.559 that. And I think that would have been kind of 00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:12.719 fun, too, to see, even if it was flashback. I'm 00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.699 normally not a flashback guy. But I think to 00:51:15.699 --> 00:51:19.420 see how Cassius handled each of these guys, or 00:51:19.420 --> 00:51:21.380 at least some of them, like one or two more, 00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:23.960 you know, the power of three, where we see three 00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:26.860 of these seven get killed. I think that would 00:51:26.860 --> 00:51:29.420 have been kind of fun to see as well. Just to 00:51:29.420 --> 00:51:33.760 give you more detail about Paul slash Cassius's 00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:37.179 mission, like why he did the things he did. It 00:51:37.179 --> 00:51:40.719 was revenge, but it also was so that nobody knew 00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:42.719 who he was. Nobody could trace it back to him, 00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:46.519 that kind of thing. I don't know. That's, that's 00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:50.780 my thoughts on the double. Um, yeah. So if you 00:51:50.780 --> 00:51:53.440 guys have thoughts, hit us up anywhere. We're 00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:56.460 on blue sky and threads. Now we're on a hive 00:51:56.460 --> 00:51:58.980 social, even though I don't think that one's 00:51:58.980 --> 00:52:00.780 taking off as much, but we're on there as well. 00:52:01.179 --> 00:52:03.500 So you can find us anywhere at game for a movie. 00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:09.239 Yeah. So use the hashtag G fam. If you're wanting 00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:11.119 to get in on the conversation, we can find you 00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:14.780 that way as well. So hashtag G fam. And yeah, 00:52:14.940 --> 00:52:16.980 we will see you guys next time on the Game for 00:52:16.980 --> 00:52:19.000 a Movie podcast where we ask, are you game for 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:20.980 a movie? I've been Mike, your host. You have 00:52:20.980 --> 00:52:22.960 listened to me talk about the double from 2011. 00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:26.179 And we will see you next time. Unless we're a 00:52:26.179 --> 00:52:27.860 Russian spy and we need to get back to Moscow. 00:52:29.460 --> 00:52:33.940 Or not. Double agent. Bye.