You know what that sound means? It's another
episode of Game for a Movie where we ask, are
you game for a movie? My name is Mike. I'll be
your host for this final episode of Spoopy Season.
Yes, always. I try to, during the month of October,
try to give you as many bad horror movies as
I can. Because let's face it, there's a million
of them. This year, I am very proud that I am
going to be able to give you four episodes. And
it didn't come without its share of problems.
Like, it was a little tough to get all these
out. But at the same time, I'm happy to do so
for you, the listener. Thank you for listening
and tuning in. The fourth movie of spoopy season
is going to have to wait. As always, we start
with what are we drinking this time? So my in
-laws were in town helping us with the new baby
and everything like that. And whenever they come
to town, most of the time they drive. And when
they do, of course, they bring me some beer from
Cincinnati. This is Truth, an IPA from Rheingeist
Brewing. If you've never been to Rheingeist Brewing,
it is truly one of my favorite breweries in the
country. It's a great brewery hands down anyway,
but then some of the beers they have are fantastic.
On my untapped score for this one, it is a five
out of five, and I'm really particular on my
beers on there because I don't want to like...
Every beer could be a five if you if you truly
think about it and be like, OK, yeah, I love
this one. I love that one. I love that one. I
try to be very particular. I usually if if I'm
giving you a five, you are one of the best beers
I've ever had. And truth is no exception. I've
actually the 12 pack they brought. I think I
only have two left and I basically started drinking
three days ago. So, yeah, truth. Fantastic beer
from Rheingeis Brewing. Definitely get it. And
definitely go there if you are in the Cincinnati
area. There are plenty of great breweries in
Cincinnati. If you are not well aware, they do
know how to drink out there. All right. With
that being said, we are on to our last movie
of spoopy season. I know this is going to release
on Halloween. And it's not particularly about
a holiday like Halloween. This is about 4th of
July, actually. And it is I Still Know What You
Did Last Summer. I still know what you did last
summer is a 7 % on the tomato meter and a 29
% on the popcorn meter. That is critics 7 % audience
29%. And yeah, this is one of those ones. Stick
around until the end because I am going to absolutely
unleash hell on this movie. It is truly. One
of the worst endings I've ever seen in a movie,
and I've seen a ton of bad endings. So a little
bit of background on this movie. It was released
November 13, 1998. It is rated R, and it is an
hour and 41 minutes. It is a sequel to I Know
What You Did Last Summer, which is definitely
a far superior movie. And I say far superior.
It's not much better, but because of this second
movie, it gets a little better in my mind. That
first one, of course, had Jennifer Love Hewitt.
It had Freddie Prince Jr. It also had Sarah Michelle
Gellar and Ryan Philippe. If you don't know about
the first one, let me just give you a little
bit of ground rules before because it does continue
that story. Basically, these kids were driving
after a party. They run over some guy and throw
his body into the water to try to hide it so
that they don't get in trouble with the cops
or anything like that. They think they've gotten
away scot -free, and the next summer, they start
getting messages, I know what you did last summer.
And they get it all over, and one by one, they're
picked off by a fisherman. This fisherman in
the first one is played by Muse Watson, and he
does actually come back in the second one as
well. His name is Ben, basically, was still alive,
even though they thought they had killed him.
Was just getting revenge for the fact that none
of them claimed responsibility or took responsibility.
It's very much a product of its time. This movie,
I Know What You Did Last Summer. And tenfold
for I Still Know What You Did Last Summer, which
came out the year after. They definitely rushed
this. And at the very end of I Know What You
Did Last Summer, they set up the sequel. So I
Still Know What You Did Last Summer was directed
by Danny Cannon. Danny Cannon is known for directing
a lot of TV shows, really. A couple episodes
here or there and that kind of thing. The big
movies he did were this one and Judge Dredd.
That's the one with Sylvester Stallone and not
the one with Carl Urban. So Danny Cannon has
also been nominated for a bunch of awards. All
of the awards he's been nominated for are Best
Producer or Director for CSI. The original CSI.
And a lot of those are also shared with a bunch
of people as well. So Danny Cannon, a lot of
TV under his belt. Not really a lot of movies,
but that's okay. And then the writers given credit.
One of them is Lois Duncan. She is the original
writer of the book series that I Know What You
Did Last Summer movies are based on. She wrote
I Know What You Did Last Summer. I still know
what you did last summer. And of course, I always
will know what you did last summer. Unfortunately,
she passed in 2016, but she is still credited
for these movies as well as the I Know What You
Did Last Summer TV series from 2021. The other
writer is Trey Calloway, which is more of the
Hollywood side that adapted the books into a
screenplay. Trey Calloway is definitely another
big TV person. He's written a lot of TV shows,
and this is really the only big movie. that he
has to his name for writing. I Still Know What
You Did Last Summer was nominated for a couple
awards, and it actually won a couple as well,
including the Blockbuster Entertainment Awards
Favorite Actress in a Horror in 1999. That is
Jennifer Love Hewitt. Favorite Supporting Actor
in a Horror for the Blockbuster Entertainment
Award. That was Freddie Prinze Jr. Teen Choice
Awards winner for Choice Actress. That is Jennifer
Love Hewitt, of course. And then the fun ones,
the Fangoria Chainsaw Awards, it won Worst Film,
and the Stinker's Bad Movie Awards, it won Worst
Sequel. So enough about the background, let's
get into the details of the movie. And remember,
I'm going to try to remind you of things that
happened in the first movie of I Know What You
Did Last Summer, just in case you forgot. I'm
not going to remember everything, so hopefully
you've seen that one. If you haven't... It's
pretty much a paint -by -numbers slasher film.
It's decent in the fact that it's a little bit
of fun. There's some multiple scenes that were
kind of like, you know, they stand out and everything
like that. But this one, I'm going to try to
remind you what happened in the first one if
it correlates with this one. So we start off
the movie with Julie James, who is Jennifer Love
Hewitt. She is in a church confessing her sins
and basically admitting what happened. kind of
relaying the events of what happened in the first
movie. And of course, as she's confessing her
sins, the father and the other side of the confession
booth is obviously not the preacher. It is the
fisherman killer in the first movie. And he reaches
through, and then she wakes up. And it was all
a dream, and she's in a classroom. We meet Will,
who is played by Matthew Settle. His name is
Will Benson. He is trying to calm Julie down.
And Julie just up and leaves the class because
obviously she's all kinds of messed up after
her ordeal in her dream. Will follows right after
her as you do because, you know, just leave class
if you want to. As she's like walking and talking
with Will, she is surprised by Ray. Ray Bronson
from the first movie who is played by Freddie
Prinze Jr. And he has shown up early to surprise
Julie and basically catches her talking with
Will and is kind of like a little jealous. You
know, it's a little weird when your girlfriend
is talking to another guy solo, especially when
you're living further away, like back in their
hometown. And she went off to college and is
doing her own thing. But Will is just a friend,
according to her. And it's obvious to me, it's
obvious to everybody at this point, Will has
feelings. So after Will breaks off, Ray and Julia
are talking and Ray is trying to convince her
to come back to their hometown. But she basically
says she can't. She lost her best friend there.
She's too fucked up to go back to the town. She
tries to convince him opposite to stay, but he
has to work because he is a fisherman himself.
They have a little bit of a back and forth and
he leaves angry and just kind of glad he drove
all that way because now he's not going to make
it anymore. He's going to go back home because,
A, he has to work and thought that she'd come
with him. But they have this little lover's tiff
and you can tell there's a little bit of resentment.
But at the same time, they both feel for each
other. So Julie goes back to her apartment and
she falls asleep, but she is woken up. by the
door to their apartment closing suddenly. Her
light breaks, like when she turns it on, it breaks.
So she grabs a knife that she has in her side
table and starts wandering through the apartment
to figure out who is there. There's a little
jump scare behind her as she traverses the dark
apartment, you know, where it's kind of like
a shadow kind of moving behind her kind of thing.
And a closet in the other room is the only light
and someone is in there. Shock. She starts yelling
because it's Carla. Carla is Julie's roommate.
Carla Wilson is played by Brandy Norwood or Brandy,
as we better know her. And she thought that Julie
was gone and she just wanted to borrow a dress.
She explains why she's on edge. You know, she
just didn't know. At this point, it's pretty
obvious she has not told Carla what has happened.
She can tell there's something there where like
she kind of has these things and everything like
that. But she hasn't made it abundantly clear
why she's so scared. Carla, at this point, is
trying to convince her to date Will because she
was explaining how her and Ray got into a fight.
And she's like, well, this is great. You should
date Will because Will is like here for you as
well as like he's a good guy and that kind of
stuff. You know, Julie doesn't want it. She's
with Ray and everything like that. Carla also
convinces her to go out to the nightclub that
she works at. So Julie somehow some way gets
convinced to go. When we get to the nightclub,
we meet Carla's boyfriend. Carla's boyfriend
is Tyrell. Tyrell is played by Makai Pfeiffer.
He's kind of like, you know, he's he's a self
-confident, you know, a little bit cocky. kind
of guy you know so he he is carla's boyfriend
he knows like he bagged a baddie kind of thing
you know he he's very self -conscious with himself
uh or like uh self -confident with himself not
self -conscious self -confident with himself
and feels like you can tell he's he's a cock
and a walk kind of guy and of course also there
is will how do you get there oh i don't know
carla didn't invite him for sure that definitely
didn't happen Tyrell and Carla walk off to give
Will and Julie some space and everything. So
Julie is looking all of a sudden through the
dance floor and through the flashing lights and
people dancing. She thinks she sees a fisherman
and she like walks to that area, but there's
nothing there. And it's just obviously like kind
of PTSD and everything. So she tells Will she
needs to go like she just can't stay. And Will
got to be thinking it's him at this point, in
my mind anyway. So the next day they're getting
ready for the morning and everything like that.
And Brandy gets a phone call from the local morning
show that they listen to. And it's not just the
morning show calling her or anything like that.
She has a chance to win a trip for four to the
Bahamas. All she has to do is name the capital
of Brazil, which at first I thought she got wrong.
And she did. And so like I was just kind of like.
chalking it up to the movie and just kind of
being like okay this is this is stupid like how
do they not do the research and figure out what
the capital of brazil is if that's going to be
a part of it or whatever i will go back and say
that i apologize to the movie because they did
actually make it a part of it that they got the
question wrong so julie calls ray because obviously
the people that are going to go on this getaway
are carla tyrell julie and And I said question
mark because obviously it's going to be Ray,
but I feel like because of reasons, it's going
to end up being Will. Ray says he can't go because
of work, but as he's on the phone with her, his
buddy Dave, who also works at the pier, is convincing
him to go. So Julie just asks him to try to get
there. So Ray tries. Him and Dave get in their
car, and they're going to try to get... to the
college before they leave for the Bahamas. Also,
Dave is played by John Hawks. John Hawks has
been in a bunch of stuff. You probably recognize
him somewhere, somehow, down the road. Ray also
admits to Dave that he has a ring for Julie,
and even though he's acting all pissy about everything,
he does have intentions of proposing to her.
So they've established that the university is
about two hours away from their hometown. So
they're driving to the university, Dave and Ray.
And I guess Dave is just driving him. I don't
know why he's also going because it's not like
he's going to be able to go to the Bahamas. So
I don't know how he got out of work. If there
was already a big deal that Ray was getting out
of work, whatever. I'm overthinking it as a business
mind, whatever. So as they're driving to the
university at night, they come across a car accident,
which of course is triggering for Ray. Ray sees
the car accident and sees that there's a person
in the car. And so he gets out of the car and
as his heart is beating rapidly, he goes to check
on the person in the car. The guy in the car
is a mannequin. And when Ray realizes that he
looks back at Dave and Dave gets gutted by the
fisherman, just grabs him by the hook, like grabs.
the hook into him and pulls him out of the car.
And basically he's done. And then he gets into
the car and chases after Ray, who jumps over
a guardrail and rolls like violently down this
hill for a while. We didn't see him die. So he
may be alive. Or I also included because, you
know, it's a slasher film. He may be the killer
because we don't know exactly if he died or not.
The morning after we get to Julia and Carla and
they're waiting on Ray to show up because. Julie
knows that he's going to show up. He promised.
He promised he was going to try. Well, he doesn't
show. So they decide that, all right, fine, they'll
bring Will. Because, and I quote Carla says,
where there's a Will, there's a way. We get a
little montage of them traveling. Will is scared
of flying. They also have to take a boat to this
hotel in the middle of the Bahamas and Tyrell
is seasick. So like it just kind of shows that
the men are not really like the manly men that
you're expecting them to be. This is also to
set up that they can only get back and forth
from the island on a boat because something tells
me they're going to be stuck on the island in
the Bahamas. I don't know for certain, but I
just have that feeling at this point. When they
get to the hotel, they meet two people. One is
Derek, the dockhand, and the other is Titus.
Derek, the dockhand, is played by Benjamin Brown.
He seems like a very nice guy. He's kind of just
the hardworking dockhand that gets the boat in,
gets the boat out, that kind of thing. Titus
is a big slacker with dreadlocks and basically
says, if you guys want to have fun on the island,
he can get you exactly what you want. Titus is
everybody's favorite character. I can already
tell you right now because it's Jack Black. So
Jack Black in his first horror movie. Yeah, he
has dreadlocks. He's playing a guy named Titus.
And of course, there's a bunch of weed jokes
because he's the guy that can get you what you
want. They go to check in and the hotel clerk
is a dick just to be a dick. That's all it really
seems like. He's just kind of there to be a dick.
And he also mentions that. It's storm season,
so he doesn't know why anybody in their right
mind would be coming to the hotel at this point
because it's storm season. They're all locking
down. There's going to be very few people on
the island. There's going to be like a handful
of people that work at the resort. And really,
they're going to have the run of the place to
themselves because there's going to be nobody
else. This is where we also kind of, kind of,
this is off to the side, but we get introduced
to Estes. Estes is played by Bill Cobbs. Bill
Cobbs, again, another person you definitely recognize.
You've seen him in something. He's been in a
bunch of stuff. He doesn't really work on the
hotel or anything, but he lives on the island.
And he's just kind of a part of this. Now we
see Ray. Ray is in the hospital and he has head
trauma. And he also is wearing a sling on his
left arm. I'm only including this because there's
a part where he switches arms to his right arm
at some point during the film. He doesn't want
to be in the hospital for long because he knows
the fisherman's out there now. So as the doctor
walks away, then we start getting the system
going as it goes to flatline. And it's all because
he ran out. He ran away and jumped out the window
while the girls are getting ready for their first
night at the hotel. The guys go down to the bar
and they try to get a drink or two from Nancy.
Nancy is played by Jennifer Esposito. Looking
at some of the fun facts in the IMDb notes, Nancy
was described in the script as someone who looks
just like Jennifer Esposito, and lo and behold,
they got her. So Jennifer Esposito is the bartender
Nancy, and there's no one else there except for
Nancy and the two guys because, again, it's storm
season. So because there's no one else at the
island, they set up at the bar karaoke. And they
get Julia to sing I Will Survive. I think this
is a nod to the fact that she was one of the
sole survivors of the first movie. And as she's
singing the song, she gets to a part where she
doesn't know the words as much. So she looks
at the screen. And the screen, all of a sudden
it pops up and says, I still know what you did
last summer. And so she freaks out. And she runs
off back to her room. And everybody's kind of
like, what's going on? What's happening? And
in her room, there's a letter waiting for her.
And the letter, of course, she's like slowly
reaching for and she knows it's going to say,
I still know what you did last summer. She opens
it up and it says surprise. And she freaks out
because Will shows up behind her with a bottle
of champagne and roses. He's just trying to make
her feel better. Like he's trying to do all the
things to prove that he could be a good boyfriend
for her, especially because Ray didn't make it.
And maybe now he has a chance. And he seems like
a decent guy. You know, he seems like that nice
guy and everything like that. So at this point,
I'm like 100 % certain that it is Will. Like,
I'm 100 % certain that it is Will. And I don't
know what it is. It just felt like it in my mind
because it's just what it is, you know? Obviously,
I have no proof of that at this point. I just
kind of felt that way, that it's going to be
Will somehow, someway. Now we go off to the,
uh, Derek, the dock hand is working on the dock
and he gets surprised, like jump scared by Titus,
Jack Black, who is going to the mainland for
a party. And so he just needs him to let this
boat free and he's going to take the boat and
get to the mainland for a party. And then he'll
be back before the morning and before the storm
starts. That's, that's his idea. So Derek undoes
it, and Titus walks away, and Derek gets killed
by the fishermen. Derek is the first one to die
besides Dave, and I said that on this island,
the black guy died first. We are following tropes
pretty much. I mean, Dave, yes, okay, fine, he
technically died first, but we're, you know,
we're... nitpicking here about who died first
Derek died first on the island and then for no
reason whatsoever also the black maid gets killed
too so I pointed out that I think this fisherman
is potentially racist if Carla or Tyrell die
next this guy is definitely like a racist piece
of shit so at the same point Carla and Tyrell
are like having a moment in the hot tub and I
don't know if I mentioned this or not but they
got two rooms so Carla and Tyrell are in one
room and then Will and uh julia and the other
and will being the nice guy that he is offered
to sleep on the couch that kind of thing so carla
and tyrell are having their moment in the hot
tub and they get disturbed by titus and basically
he's just trying to figure out where derrick
went because the boat's no longer there and then
will shows up and will just decides to hop in
the hot tub with them and mind you there's multiple
there's supposed to be multiple hot tubs at this
resort Will just shows up because he's like,
oh, this is my friends and everything like that.
And he's just there to kind of be a hot cock
block, you know. And this is the point of the
movie where I felt like this group of people,
like all of the people in this movie, all of
the director, the writers, that kind of thing.
They just want a trip to the Bahamas. And they
just said, cool, we will make a script and sell
it as a sequel to I Know What You Did Last Summer.
And we'll all go to the Bahamas and have a great
vacation. While they're in the hot tub, Julie
gets out of the shower and she rubs the mirror.
And of course, as she does that, a figure passes
by behind her. And so she's kind of like, huh,
you know, things are creepy. And she thinks something
is in the closet. And so she opens the door and
of course finds a dead body in there. And the
dead body is like hanging in the closet. So she
goes to get help from. her gang as well as the
owner of the hotel or like the the supervisor
of the hotel and when they come back there's
nothing in there they also get told at this point
because it is storm season everything like that
there are no more boats because they can't take
it out on the water and the phone lines they
just went down a few minutes ago now they're
stuck they they have nobody they can call the
guy also mentions that there is a radio for emergencies
but it's most likely there's not going to be
an emergency that they can use seeing flashes
to estes estes is in his house and he is doing
some kind of like voodoo spell and it's just
kind of showing that he's like a voodoo kind
of guy and it's definitely one of those diversion
things where it's oh look at this guy being creepy
yeah he's definitely the killer that kind of
thing you just know from the room by the pool.
He kind of is like the pool boy kind of thing.
He's about to smoke like this huge bong. And
as he looks up, he gets attacked by the fishermen.
He's gone. So we got three dead bodies on this
island already. On the mainland, Ray, who no
longer has a car, no longer has a way to get
to the university or get to the Bahamas. Basically,
he goes to a pawn shop. to pawn his engagement
ring so he can get $300 in a gun because he's
going to the Bahamas. He knows Julie's in trouble.
So it's the next day and it is raining. And of
course, it's the start of storm season, everything
like that. It's not too bad so far, but it's
just kind of setting the precedence that, hey,
it's going to be raining for the rest of this
movie. There's going to be a dark showdown in
the ring kind of thing. Our main four are looking
for something to do. Guys go one way, the girls
go the other. Will is annoying Tyrell while Carla
and Julie find a gym and more specifically a
tanning booth off the gym. And so Carla convinces
Julie to use the tanning booth. And I said, this
is just an excuse to kind of get Jennifer Love
Hewitt in her underwear. You know, like this,
it definitely feels like we just want to see
her show a little skin kind of thing. I also
commented at this point that Julie thought she
saw someone dead last night. And now you're thinking
about using a tanning bed, half naked, with these
headphones that you just pulled out of nowhere.
You're just going to leave yourself susceptible
to whatever may happen. Cool. Good idea. So Julie
puts in her headphones and gets into the tanning
booth and... is on her own Kayla walks away and
she starts hearing the laundry dryer like going
crazy and she thinks like oh there was a bit
before where their dryer was going crazy because
she put shoes in it so she's like I wonder how
many shoes are in there and so she like goes
to the dryer opens it up and when she opens it
up she screams because the maid's body is in
there Tyrell and Will are like exploring around
and they go in the pool house and that's where
they see Titus dead And of course, the fisherman
shows up behind Julie in the tanning booth. And
instead of just like, you know, killing her with
a hook or whatever while she's unsuspecting,
the fisherman instead turns up the temp and zip
ties her in the tanning bed. So she's zip tied
in. The temperature is turned up, everything
like that. And you might be thinking to yourself,
oh, I've seen this before. This was in Final
Destination 3. You're wrong. This movie was first.
So it gets all the credit. There you go. So Final
Destination 3 is just a ripoff of I Still Know
What You Did Last Summer. So you know what? Congratulations,
Trey Calloway. You did it. You came up with the
tanning bed scene first. Carla is locked in the
laundry, so she can't really get out. And so
both girls are screaming, and the guys hear it,
and they come to save the day. So the guys first
get... carla out of the laundry room by just
like slamming the door and everything like that
and then they're able to find julie in the tanning
bed and they're able to break the zip tie so
that she can get out of there so our four are
still saved now they know they need to go find
the radio this is this is the excuse they need
to go find the radio so they go to the front
desk and the front desk guy yeah he gone the
manager done And there's a bloody message on
the wall written in the manager's blood that
says, I still know. And these guys are kind of
wondering, like, what does he still know? Why
is this happening? That kind of thing. So Julie
tells them all about the killings from last year
and like what happened and everything like that.
All right. Now it seems like as good a time as
any to. tell you all about the podcast that guessed
it correctly first the bad movie of course we
have a guessing game for each bad movie we do
give you a couple clues in gifts that may or
may not be from the bad movie itself this time
it is again our friend josh from the your next
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this month and it's just that easy he was the
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Josh, congratulations for once again getting
the bad movie correct first. So now everybody's
in the know about the killings and everything
like that. And I think they know who is the guy.
They think it's Estes. So they go to try to attack
him before he can get to them. This also shows
that Ray is now on a bus. And I said, Ray is
on a bus to the Bahamas. Like I know it was 1998,
$300. I don't know if it's going to get you a
bus ticket and a plane ticket and somehow a boat
to get to the Bahamas. And that's all he traded
the engagement ring for $300 and a gun. So somehow
some way, taking a bus and a boat and a plane
or whatever, he's going to get to the Bahamas
to save the day, right? We all know that's going
to happen, right? One beer down, another beer
to go. Let's finish this movie. Our group is
at Estes' place, and they find things that they
have been missing, and it's like at a shrine
-like thing. A couple of things that have just
like disappeared from them. So like, I don't
remember the exact things, but you know, like
a hair scrunchie would be missing or something
like that. Something particular to these people
have been missing and it is at the shrine at
Estes' place. So everything's starting to look
like it's got to be Estes. He's got to be the
one that's doing this. So they leave his spot
and they go back to the main hotel and they find
weapons to defend themselves. As they get these
weapons, all of a sudden the power goes out.
Along with the power going out, Estes pops up
out of nowhere and he tells them and alerts them
that the capital of Brazil is not Rio, as they
had guessed for this contest. It is Brasilia.
And so now they know that they were set up. Like,
how did they get this wrong? But they still won
the contest to go to the Bahamas. Now they know
it's got to be the fishermen setting them up.
He also admits that he stole some of their stuff
to do a voodoo like protection thing. He wants
to protect them. He doesn't he doesn't want to
appear like the bad guy as he's having this conversation.
Like I pointed out, I know it's raining and everything,
but like this entire movie, they just had Jennifer
Love Hewitt's hair like always wet. It's just
it's. It always feels like it's even if they've
been inside for hours, it feels wet. We now see
Ray has gotten to the boat captain and is telling
him that he wants to get to the island. And the
boat captain was like, nah, no fucking way. I'm
not going out there. What do you think this is?
That kind of thing. It's a freaking storm. That
kind of thing. Ray then uses the gun and holds
him at gunpoint to get to the island. Back on
the island, Estes takes them to a graveyard and
shows them the graves of Sarah and Ben Willis
and basically reveals the lore. that Sarah and
Ben used to work on the island themselves. So
this is kind of how they're connected to this
Bahama Island kind of thing. And dug next to
their graves is one marked Julie James with the
date July 4th, 1998, and then a hole in the ground.
Dug for presumably Julie when Ben gets his revenge,
that kind of thing. And this leads to the second
best Screaming to the Heaven scene in this series.
Julie, once again, screams to the heavens about,
like, bring it on, I'm right here, kind of thing.
And as she's doing this, there's a, like, thunder
strike, and Estes disappears. And Will goes to
run after him to find him. And this, again, I've
said it before and I'll say it again, just feels
like Estes is going to show up dead, and Will
is going to be the one who did it. It's fucking
Will. Will catches up to Estes, who is putting
a boat in the water, which is a rowboat. It's
not like a real boat. And he's holding an oar.
And as Will gets there, he knocks Will out. This
is the first time I started to question myself.
And mind you, question, not really. I still think
it's Will. But that Estes knocked him out, I'm
kind of like, okay, maybe it's not him. Who knows?
The others go back to the main building and they
start grabbing knives and they start looking
for the fisherman. They know he's somewhere in
the hotel. They're going to find him. Nancy is
still alive and thinking that Tyrell is the killer.
She hits him in the face with like a pan. Nancy
like apologizes. They're having this whole conversation,
everything like that. And Nancy's also freaked
out. Like Tyrell still hasn't seen anybody. He's
seen these bodies, but he hasn't seen anybody.
So he's just like frustrated. So he just lashes
out and is like, I'm tired. I'm hungry. And personally,
I haven't seen one psycho killer. And then, of
course, right behind, like right above him, the
fisherman pops down and starts strangling him
with a wire. So now it's only the girls left
in the hotel. We know that Will's been knocked
out. Estes is gone. Tyrell, we assume, has been
strangled to death. So it's only Carla, Julie,
and Nancy that are trying to get away. So they
climb into the attic after being chased by the
fisherman after he finishes Tyrell off. And so
they go into the attic. They get away from the
fisherman, and he doesn't have any clue where
they are. So they're just quietly trying to cut
across this beam in the attic so they don't fall
through the ceiling. And so they can get to the
other side of the room without the fishermen
being aware of their spot. This is also a big
deal because it is above their rooms that this
attic is and that he could see into their rooms.
So like they learned that he's basically been
watching them this entire time. Like he can see
both of their bedrooms. He knows when they're
in the room, when they're not, that kind of thing.
Carla misses the beam and. falls through the
ceiling and gets knocked into the bedroom with
the killer nancy is trying to convince julie
to keep going and leave carla and carla has at
this point run through a window and jumped out
of it to land on a greenhouse where she subsequently
fell through the glass and now she's in the greenhouse
and julie instead of like trying to escape decides
she's going to go back and try to help carla
Both Nancy and Julie get to the greenhouse and
the greenhouse is locked on the side they're
at. But they can see in, obviously, because it
is a greenhouse. And so they're trying to open
the door and then realize that the fisherman
is behind Carlo, like slowly walking towards
her. Julie getting very pissed off that the door
is locked. She like grabs an axe from the fire,
like. Like a fire axe, she grabs a fire axe and
smashes through the window and starts getting
Carla out. As Carla is escaping, her foot gets
hit by the hook. And this is the same hook, by
the way, that sunk into easily and grabbed the
maid and killed her in like one fell swoop. This
like gets her leg, but just kind of, it's a flesh
wound kind of thing. It doesn't actually like,
you know, tear off her foot or anything like
that. So now they've ended up in like this maintenance
room escaping from the fishermen and everything.
And as they turn on the light in the maintenance
room, they realize all of the dead bodies are
there, like every single one. And so they want
to scream, but of course they can't because the
fishermen will then know where they are. And
so they're like freaking out. And then Will suddenly
enters behind them and explains how Estes attacked
him. They get back into like the main hotel and
Carla and Nancy go to find a first aid kit to
like patch up Carla's foot. Will is like covered
in blood, but Julie realizes there's no real
wound like there. She sees a he's covered in
blood, but there's like no wound anywhere on
him. And so she starts realizing, oh, this will
is a part of this. So Will now has Julie like.
is grabbing her and dragging her to the woods
and nancy and carla while looking for the first
aid kit they come across estes and it's one of
those like open the door and estes is there and
it's like oh god oh god and then estes falls
onto nancy and estes is dead because estes is
on top of her nancy can't really escape and the
fisherman comes in and kills nancy so the fisherman
From the first movie. Is Ben Willis. I told you
at the beginning. I've been giving you full names.
So like Julie James. Ray Bronson. Brandy Norwood.
Carla Wilson. You know that kind of thing. And
our friend Will Benson. Why is his name Benson.
And not Willis you might say. Because he thought
he was so clever. And his last name is Benson.
Or Ben's son. Ben's son. And so Ben is still
alive and his son is Will. This right here might
have done it. This is the moment. This is the
moment in this podcast that I knew I was getting
to. I've watched a ton of bad movies for this
podcast. An absolute ton. And some of them are
absolutely terrible. Some of them have terrible
writing. And this is not the worst one on the
list by far. However, this is the part that broke
me. I have been mad for days. I'm not joking
you. Days about stupid fucking Benson. I am still
absolutely fuming. Like I am white knuckled because
my fists are so tight about this stupid revelation
that he is Ben's son. And that is why his last
name is Benson. This is fucking dumb. Absolutely
the stupidest thing ever. And, like, I always
knew it was Will anyway, so that doesn't bug
me. If it was Will, fine, whatever. Like, yeah,
it was predictable, whatever. The fact that they
think they are so smart writing this in. That
they think they are smarter than the audience
and had this right in front of your nose the
whole time. Oh, his name is Will Benson because
he's Ben's son. Fuck these writers. Absolutely
fuck them. And I know I already told you the
person who wrote these books. I don't know if
it's in the book or not. I know I told you that
she's dead. So she gets a pass for now. Trey
Calloway, the guy who wrote the screenplay for
this. Fuck you. Absolutely. Fuck you. This is
the dumbest thing ever. I was so pissed and I'm
still, I'm fuming. I'm angry. I'm seeing red
because of this moment. It's one thing to be
predictable is one thing, but then to be predictable
and still think you are so smart with this little
twist that you had and everything like that,
that you've got Ben's son. I can't, I can't.
I literally can't. This part of the movie broke
me. And again, this is not the worst movie I've
seen. I have seen far worse that have just from
the beginning to the end been absolute trash.
But this is the moment. I knew there was going
to be a movie somewhere along the line where
the end was going to be so dumb that it absolutely
broke me. And congratulations. I still know what
you did last summer. You did it. You are the
ones that did it. We've got a little bit left
of this movie. I promise I'll get probably more
on this rampage because I'm just I'm still mad
about this. Let's take a deep breath and talk
about the fact that now Ben Willis and Will Willis,
because we don't know if his name's actually
Will Willis or not. Ben Willis and Will Willis
are now your two killers. And wouldn't you know
it, they're they're like playing with their food
with Julie. And all of a sudden, Ray shows up
last minute with a gun. But the gun jams. As
soon as he tries to fire any shots, the gun jams.
So he just runs full sprint at Will while Julie
bites Ben's hand to get out of his grasp. Will
kind of gets a drop on Ray and like holds him
for Ben to kill. But at the last second, Ray
hits Will and like runs away, leaving Ben to
accidentally hit Will and send him out of commission.
So yes, his own dad sends Will out of commission.
Angry at Ray now, Ben like leaves his guard down
and Julie is able to unload like a full round
into Ben with the gun. And by a full round, she
has a revolver and she fires nine shots. Eight
shots that connect and one like empty blank shot.
And I said a revolver. That is correct. It's
supposed to have six shots. She fires nine shots.
Eight that hit and one that's supposed to be
a blank so she can stop firing. Ben, of course,
then falls into the grave that's marked for Julie.
That's it. The day is saved. Ben's dead. He killed
his son, Will. Ben's son. And Carla somehow survives
and the Coast Guard arrives perfectly after the
events of the night. The sky is now sunny. There's
no problem anymore. Storm season's just done.
And so it goes to another epilogue. And Ray and
Julie now live together in a new house. And so
like Julie's like in the house kind of like,
you know, just happy to be alive kind of thing.
Ray's brushing his teeth with a electric toothbrush.
And the only reason I have this is because like
he at one point holds it out of his mouth and
goes, I love this thing. Just because. I don't
know. Julie starts wandering around the house
because she feels uncomfortable all of a sudden.
And she just thinks maybe it's in her head. So
she sits back on the bed and she looks towards
the mirror that they have in the room. And she
sees that Ben is under the bed who grabs her
legs and drags her under. And that's the end.
That's the end of I Still Know What You Did Last
Summer. I've already started my rant about the
thing I absolutely hate. And I'm probably going
to get back to it. But let's go through the things
first about this movie. It's not a good sequel.
Especially compared to... the first movie. And
again, the first movie is kind of meh in general.
I enjoy it. There's some fun moments, that kind
of thing. There's definitely not as much fun
in this movie. You know, you could tell they
tried, but there's just not as much fun in this.
Some of the things just come across too heavy
handed. Like even though I love Titus, you know,
his character was just, Oh, he's a pothead and
like a slacker. That's it. You know, that kind
of thing. Um, uh, Tyrell is kind of like this
self -confident, cocky, condescending sex fiend
that just wants to get it in. You know, that
kind of thing. Carla was just the friend. Will
was obvious, such a nice guy that you knew something
was up with him. Estes was the creepy guy on
the outside where they're just trying to build
him up as a suspect, but he's... You know, he's
not really a suspect. And they just kind of make
him do voodoo just because he's going to do voodoo.
That's the thing. It's a whole movie of stereotypes.
And it also was revealed at one point about the
whole morning show and everything. It should
be obvious. They didn't call in. The morning
show called them. And the fact that they guessed
Rio and got it wrong but still won the trip.
I mean, I guess when you get a question right,
you don't look it up again. I would have probably
tried to figure it out. I don't know. Maybe that's
just me. Overall, this movie is dated way from
the beginning. It was never going to be rewatchable
because of how dated it is. One of the things
I didn't even mention in this. So the entire
movie basically is just Ray trying to get there,
and it's just like one -off scenes and everything.
So it feels very much like he was filming other
things and was just kind of there to be in a
couple scenes here or there. So at that same
time, there really wasn't anything else he was
working on. He was in a TV movie that same year,
and he was in a movie at the same time in 1997
with I Know What You Did Last Summer. It just
kind of feels like he was an afterthought. Like
they just want to get him out of the picture.
And so the entire time he's just in little scenes
here or there that must have taken, I don't know,
like a day or two to record or to like a film
where he's like on a bus, he's on the boat, he's
threatening the boat captain. It's these like
two, three minute scenes, the entire movie that
just to give him a story arc kind of thing to
get to the Bahamas. And. I can't imagine it took
him more than like a week to film this thing.
Mind you, this movie was released a year, a year
and a month after the first one was released.
So either they already had plans and were already
filming it, or they put this one together really
last second. And because of his schedule or whatever,
they just put him in these little scenes to kind
of like get him as part of the story. But also
he didn't have to be there with the rest of the
crew or whatever. So it felt very weird with
Freddie Prinze Jr.'s character of Ray. It felt
like he was just like an afterthought for pretty
much the entirety of the movie. It was definitely
our four characters that we were following the
whole time. Those were definitely the four with
the most screen time, that kind of thing. The
kills were basic. There's some that were a little
more like, oh, wow, okay, that was a little gruesome,
but not much for the most part. They didn't do
anything very... original you know it was either
they got killed by a fish hook or there was like
one other one i can't even remember that's how
little it stuck out to me but basically it was
fish hook kills um especially when i watch horror
movies with a slasher i kind of like the idea
of more crazy kills i know that saying that as
a big fan of the scream series where everybody
basically gets it by a knife i like when killers
get creative I like that in movies. I like that
fun kind of thing where I rate those kills better
because they thought of something to make it
stand out more. Obviously, my biggest problem
with the film is Ben's son. It just absolutely
was. It was meaningless, truthfully. I mean,
you could have just had him be his son. You didn't
have to have him thinking he's so smart and going,
yeah, my name is Will Benson, get it? That kind
of thing, and thinking he's so clever and everything
like that. That was just awful. It totally killed
the momentum of the movie, which it didn't have
much to go with at the beginning anyway. These
movies are a trilogy. don't watch i always will
remember what you did last summer don't watch
i still know what you did last summer because
you'll just be frustrated at the end and even
the first one like it's not bad it's it's definitely
like um if you're looking for a trilogy to watch
during the halloween season or as these movies
are a fourth of july trilogy uh definitely avoid
these ones i would say the first one is good
for a watch or two like i haven't re -watched
it much since watching it the first time you
know i've watched it maybe once or twice more
uh this one definitely not going to be another
one i re -watch so yeah it's uh this failed as
a sequel in every way it didn't give the characters
anything more compelling to do it didn't make
them any more fun and truthfully it lost a lot
because of some of the gimmicks it pulled and
that kind of thing um so yeah i I can't say much
more about this. So time to give it a rating.
Before the reveal of Ben's son, I would say this
movie is one out of five fishhooks. After the
reveal of Ben's son, I think I have to. I think
it's a 0 .25 fishhooks out of five. I really
do. I think it killed it that much. I think it
had no momentum going in. Anyway, but at least
it was okay. I don't know. I feel like I'm being
generous on the one. I'm not being disgenerous
on the .25. I feel like it definitely deserves
that or lower. It may deserve an actual zero
because of that. The movie itself, as far as
bad movies go, it's not going to be the worst
I've watched. It's not going to be the best I've
watched. It's definitely right in that middle
ground. maybe leaning more towards the worst
side. The twist at the end with the Ben Sun just
pissed me off so much. I'm literally a week after,
and I'm still fuming. That's how bad that got
me. So, yeah, a .25 out of 5 fishhooks or Ben
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