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You know what that sound means? It's another

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episode of Game for a Movie where we ask, are

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you game for a movie? My name is Mike. I'll be

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your host for this final episode of Spoopy Season.

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Yes, always. I try to, during the month of October,

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try to give you as many bad horror movies as

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I can. Because let's face it, there's a million

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of them. This year, I am very proud that I am

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going to be able to give you four episodes. And

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it didn't come without its share of problems.

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Like, it was a little tough to get all these

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out. But at the same time, I'm happy to do so

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for you, the listener. Thank you for listening

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and tuning in. The fourth movie of spoopy season

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is going to have to wait. As always, we start

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with what are we drinking this time? So my in

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-laws were in town helping us with the new baby

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and everything like that. And whenever they come

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to town, most of the time they drive. And when

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they do, of course, they bring me some beer from

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Cincinnati. This is Truth, an IPA from Rheingeist

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Brewing. If you've never been to Rheingeist Brewing,

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it is truly one of my favorite breweries in the

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country. It's a great brewery hands down anyway,

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but then some of the beers they have are fantastic.

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On my untapped score for this one, it is a five

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out of five, and I'm really particular on my

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beers on there because I don't want to like...

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Every beer could be a five if you if you truly

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think about it and be like, OK, yeah, I love

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this one. I love that one. I love that one. I

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try to be very particular. I usually if if I'm

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giving you a five, you are one of the best beers

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I've ever had. And truth is no exception. I've

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actually the 12 pack they brought. I think I

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only have two left and I basically started drinking

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three days ago. So, yeah, truth. Fantastic beer

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from Rheingeis Brewing. Definitely get it. And

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definitely go there if you are in the Cincinnati

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area. There are plenty of great breweries in

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Cincinnati. If you are not well aware, they do

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know how to drink out there. All right. With

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that being said, we are on to our last movie

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of spoopy season. I know this is going to release

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on Halloween. And it's not particularly about

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a holiday like Halloween. This is about 4th of

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July, actually. And it is I Still Know What You

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Did Last Summer. I still know what you did last

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summer is a 7 % on the tomato meter and a 29

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% on the popcorn meter. That is critics 7 % audience

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29%. And yeah, this is one of those ones. Stick

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around until the end because I am going to absolutely

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unleash hell on this movie. It is truly. One

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of the worst endings I've ever seen in a movie,

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and I've seen a ton of bad endings. So a little

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bit of background on this movie. It was released

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November 13, 1998. It is rated R, and it is an

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hour and 41 minutes. It is a sequel to I Know

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What You Did Last Summer, which is definitely

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a far superior movie. And I say far superior.

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It's not much better, but because of this second

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movie, it gets a little better in my mind. That

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first one, of course, had Jennifer Love Hewitt.

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It had Freddie Prince Jr. It also had Sarah Michelle

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Gellar and Ryan Philippe. If you don't know about

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the first one, let me just give you a little

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bit of ground rules before because it does continue

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that story. Basically, these kids were driving

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after a party. They run over some guy and throw

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his body into the water to try to hide it so

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that they don't get in trouble with the cops

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or anything like that. They think they've gotten

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away scot -free, and the next summer, they start

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getting messages, I know what you did last summer.

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And they get it all over, and one by one, they're

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picked off by a fisherman. This fisherman in

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the first one is played by Muse Watson, and he

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does actually come back in the second one as

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well. His name is Ben, basically, was still alive,

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even though they thought they had killed him.

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Was just getting revenge for the fact that none

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of them claimed responsibility or took responsibility.

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It's very much a product of its time. This movie,

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I Know What You Did Last Summer. And tenfold

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for I Still Know What You Did Last Summer, which

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came out the year after. They definitely rushed

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this. And at the very end of I Know What You

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Did Last Summer, they set up the sequel. So I

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Still Know What You Did Last Summer was directed

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by Danny Cannon. Danny Cannon is known for directing

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a lot of TV shows, really. A couple episodes

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here or there and that kind of thing. The big

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movies he did were this one and Judge Dredd.

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That's the one with Sylvester Stallone and not

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the one with Carl Urban. So Danny Cannon has

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also been nominated for a bunch of awards. All

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of the awards he's been nominated for are Best

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Producer or Director for CSI. The original CSI.

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And a lot of those are also shared with a bunch

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of people as well. So Danny Cannon, a lot of

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TV under his belt. Not really a lot of movies,

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but that's okay. And then the writers given credit.

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One of them is Lois Duncan. She is the original

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writer of the book series that I Know What You

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Did Last Summer movies are based on. She wrote

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I Know What You Did Last Summer. I still know

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what you did last summer. And of course, I always

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will know what you did last summer. Unfortunately,

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she passed in 2016, but she is still credited

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for these movies as well as the I Know What You

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Did Last Summer TV series from 2021. The other

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writer is Trey Calloway, which is more of the

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Hollywood side that adapted the books into a

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screenplay. Trey Calloway is definitely another

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big TV person. He's written a lot of TV shows,

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and this is really the only big movie. that he

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has to his name for writing. I Still Know What

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You Did Last Summer was nominated for a couple

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awards, and it actually won a couple as well,

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including the Blockbuster Entertainment Awards

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Favorite Actress in a Horror in 1999. That is

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Jennifer Love Hewitt. Favorite Supporting Actor

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in a Horror for the Blockbuster Entertainment

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Award. That was Freddie Prinze Jr. Teen Choice

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Awards winner for Choice Actress. That is Jennifer

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Love Hewitt, of course. And then the fun ones,

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the Fangoria Chainsaw Awards, it won Worst Film,

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and the Stinker's Bad Movie Awards, it won Worst

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Sequel. So enough about the background, let's

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get into the details of the movie. And remember,

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I'm going to try to remind you of things that

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happened in the first movie of I Know What You

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Did Last Summer, just in case you forgot. I'm

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not going to remember everything, so hopefully

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you've seen that one. If you haven't... It's

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pretty much a paint -by -numbers slasher film.

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It's decent in the fact that it's a little bit

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of fun. There's some multiple scenes that were

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kind of like, you know, they stand out and everything

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like that. But this one, I'm going to try to

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remind you what happened in the first one if

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it correlates with this one. So we start off

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the movie with Julie James, who is Jennifer Love

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Hewitt. She is in a church confessing her sins

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and basically admitting what happened. kind of

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relaying the events of what happened in the first

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movie. And of course, as she's confessing her

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sins, the father and the other side of the confession

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booth is obviously not the preacher. It is the

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fisherman killer in the first movie. And he reaches

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through, and then she wakes up. And it was all

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a dream, and she's in a classroom. We meet Will,

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who is played by Matthew Settle. His name is

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Will Benson. He is trying to calm Julie down.

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And Julie just up and leaves the class because

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obviously she's all kinds of messed up after

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her ordeal in her dream. Will follows right after

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her as you do because, you know, just leave class

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if you want to. As she's like walking and talking

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with Will, she is surprised by Ray. Ray Bronson

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from the first movie who is played by Freddie

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Prinze Jr. And he has shown up early to surprise

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Julie and basically catches her talking with

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Will and is kind of like a little jealous. You

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know, it's a little weird when your girlfriend

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is talking to another guy solo, especially when

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you're living further away, like back in their

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hometown. And she went off to college and is

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doing her own thing. But Will is just a friend,

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according to her. And it's obvious to me, it's

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obvious to everybody at this point, Will has

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feelings. So after Will breaks off, Ray and Julia

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are talking and Ray is trying to convince her

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to come back to their hometown. But she basically

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says she can't. She lost her best friend there.

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She's too fucked up to go back to the town. She

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tries to convince him opposite to stay, but he

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has to work because he is a fisherman himself.

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They have a little bit of a back and forth and

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he leaves angry and just kind of glad he drove

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all that way because now he's not going to make

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it anymore. He's going to go back home because,

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A, he has to work and thought that she'd come

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with him. But they have this little lover's tiff

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and you can tell there's a little bit of resentment.

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But at the same time, they both feel for each

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other. So Julie goes back to her apartment and

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she falls asleep, but she is woken up. by the

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door to their apartment closing suddenly. Her

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light breaks, like when she turns it on, it breaks.

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So she grabs a knife that she has in her side

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table and starts wandering through the apartment

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to figure out who is there. There's a little

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jump scare behind her as she traverses the dark

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apartment, you know, where it's kind of like

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a shadow kind of moving behind her kind of thing.

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And a closet in the other room is the only light

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and someone is in there. Shock. She starts yelling

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because it's Carla. Carla is Julie's roommate.

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Carla Wilson is played by Brandy Norwood or Brandy,

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as we better know her. And she thought that Julie

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was gone and she just wanted to borrow a dress.

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She explains why she's on edge. You know, she

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just didn't know. At this point, it's pretty

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obvious she has not told Carla what has happened.

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She can tell there's something there where like

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she kind of has these things and everything like

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that. But she hasn't made it abundantly clear

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why she's so scared. Carla, at this point, is

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trying to convince her to date Will because she

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was explaining how her and Ray got into a fight.

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And she's like, well, this is great. You should

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date Will because Will is like here for you as

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well as like he's a good guy and that kind of

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stuff. You know, Julie doesn't want it. She's

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with Ray and everything like that. Carla also

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convinces her to go out to the nightclub that

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she works at. So Julie somehow some way gets

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convinced to go. When we get to the nightclub,

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we meet Carla's boyfriend. Carla's boyfriend

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is Tyrell. Tyrell is played by Makai Pfeiffer.

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He's kind of like, you know, he's he's a self

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-confident, you know, a little bit cocky. kind

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of guy you know so he he is carla's boyfriend

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he knows like he bagged a baddie kind of thing

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you know he he's very self -conscious with himself

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uh or like uh self -confident with himself not

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self -conscious self -confident with himself

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and feels like you can tell he's he's a cock

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and a walk kind of guy and of course also there

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is will how do you get there oh i don't know

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carla didn't invite him for sure that definitely

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didn't happen Tyrell and Carla walk off to give

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Will and Julie some space and everything. So

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Julie is looking all of a sudden through the

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dance floor and through the flashing lights and

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people dancing. She thinks she sees a fisherman

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and she like walks to that area, but there's

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nothing there. And it's just obviously like kind

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of PTSD and everything. So she tells Will she

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needs to go like she just can't stay. And Will

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got to be thinking it's him at this point, in

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my mind anyway. So the next day they're getting

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ready for the morning and everything like that.

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And Brandy gets a phone call from the local morning

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show that they listen to. And it's not just the

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morning show calling her or anything like that.

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She has a chance to win a trip for four to the

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Bahamas. All she has to do is name the capital

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of Brazil, which at first I thought she got wrong.

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And she did. And so like I was just kind of like.

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chalking it up to the movie and just kind of

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being like okay this is this is stupid like how

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do they not do the research and figure out what

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the capital of brazil is if that's going to be

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a part of it or whatever i will go back and say

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that i apologize to the movie because they did

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actually make it a part of it that they got the

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question wrong so julie calls ray because obviously

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the people that are going to go on this getaway

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are carla tyrell julie and And I said question

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mark because obviously it's going to be Ray,

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but I feel like because of reasons, it's going

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to end up being Will. Ray says he can't go because

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of work, but as he's on the phone with her, his

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buddy Dave, who also works at the pier, is convincing

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him to go. So Julie just asks him to try to get

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there. So Ray tries. Him and Dave get in their

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car, and they're going to try to get... to the

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college before they leave for the Bahamas. Also,

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Dave is played by John Hawks. John Hawks has

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been in a bunch of stuff. You probably recognize

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him somewhere, somehow, down the road. Ray also

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admits to Dave that he has a ring for Julie,

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and even though he's acting all pissy about everything,

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he does have intentions of proposing to her.

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So they've established that the university is

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about two hours away from their hometown. So

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they're driving to the university, Dave and Ray.

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And I guess Dave is just driving him. I don't

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know why he's also going because it's not like

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he's going to be able to go to the Bahamas. So

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I don't know how he got out of work. If there

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was already a big deal that Ray was getting out

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of work, whatever. I'm overthinking it as a business

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mind, whatever. So as they're driving to the

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university at night, they come across a car accident,

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which of course is triggering for Ray. Ray sees

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the car accident and sees that there's a person

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in the car. And so he gets out of the car and

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as his heart is beating rapidly, he goes to check

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on the person in the car. The guy in the car

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is a mannequin. And when Ray realizes that he

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looks back at Dave and Dave gets gutted by the

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fisherman, just grabs him by the hook, like grabs.

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the hook into him and pulls him out of the car.

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And basically he's done. And then he gets into

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the car and chases after Ray, who jumps over

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a guardrail and rolls like violently down this

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hill for a while. We didn't see him die. So he

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may be alive. Or I also included because, you

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know, it's a slasher film. He may be the killer

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because we don't know exactly if he died or not.

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The morning after we get to Julia and Carla and

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they're waiting on Ray to show up because. Julie

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knows that he's going to show up. He promised.

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He promised he was going to try. Well, he doesn't

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show. So they decide that, all right, fine, they'll

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bring Will. Because, and I quote Carla says,

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where there's a Will, there's a way. We get a

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little montage of them traveling. Will is scared

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of flying. They also have to take a boat to this

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hotel in the middle of the Bahamas and Tyrell

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is seasick. So like it just kind of shows that

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the men are not really like the manly men that

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you're expecting them to be. This is also to

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set up that they can only get back and forth

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from the island on a boat because something tells

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me they're going to be stuck on the island in

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the Bahamas. I don't know for certain, but I

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just have that feeling at this point. When they

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get to the hotel, they meet two people. One is

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Derek, the dockhand, and the other is Titus.

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Derek, the dockhand, is played by Benjamin Brown.

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He seems like a very nice guy. He's kind of just

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the hardworking dockhand that gets the boat in,

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gets the boat out, that kind of thing. Titus

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is a big slacker with dreadlocks and basically

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says, if you guys want to have fun on the island,

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he can get you exactly what you want. Titus is

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everybody's favorite character. I can already

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tell you right now because it's Jack Black. So

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Jack Black in his first horror movie. Yeah, he

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has dreadlocks. He's playing a guy named Titus.

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And of course, there's a bunch of weed jokes

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because he's the guy that can get you what you

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want. They go to check in and the hotel clerk

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is a dick just to be a dick. That's all it really

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seems like. He's just kind of there to be a dick.

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And he also mentions that. It's storm season,

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so he doesn't know why anybody in their right

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mind would be coming to the hotel at this point

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because it's storm season. They're all locking

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down. There's going to be very few people on

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the island. There's going to be like a handful

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of people that work at the resort. And really,

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they're going to have the run of the place to

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themselves because there's going to be nobody

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else. This is where we also kind of, kind of,

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this is off to the side, but we get introduced

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to Estes. Estes is played by Bill Cobbs. Bill

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Cobbs, again, another person you definitely recognize.

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You've seen him in something. He's been in a

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bunch of stuff. He doesn't really work on the

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hotel or anything, but he lives on the island.

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And he's just kind of a part of this. Now we

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see Ray. Ray is in the hospital and he has head

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trauma. And he also is wearing a sling on his

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left arm. I'm only including this because there's

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a part where he switches arms to his right arm

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at some point during the film. He doesn't want

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to be in the hospital for long because he knows

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the fisherman's out there now. So as the doctor

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walks away, then we start getting the system

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going as it goes to flatline. And it's all because

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he ran out. He ran away and jumped out the window

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while the girls are getting ready for their first

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night at the hotel. The guys go down to the bar

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and they try to get a drink or two from Nancy.

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Nancy is played by Jennifer Esposito. Looking

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at some of the fun facts in the IMDb notes, Nancy

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was described in the script as someone who looks

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just like Jennifer Esposito, and lo and behold,

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they got her. So Jennifer Esposito is the bartender

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Nancy, and there's no one else there except for

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Nancy and the two guys because, again, it's storm

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season. So because there's no one else at the

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island, they set up at the bar karaoke. And they

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get Julia to sing I Will Survive. I think this

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is a nod to the fact that she was one of the

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sole survivors of the first movie. And as she's

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singing the song, she gets to a part where she

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doesn't know the words as much. So she looks

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at the screen. And the screen, all of a sudden

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it pops up and says, I still know what you did

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last summer. And so she freaks out. And she runs

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off back to her room. And everybody's kind of

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like, what's going on? What's happening? And

00:19:41.140 --> 00:19:43.059
in her room, there's a letter waiting for her.

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And the letter, of course, she's like slowly

00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:49.579
reaching for and she knows it's going to say,

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I still know what you did last summer. She opens

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it up and it says surprise. And she freaks out

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because Will shows up behind her with a bottle

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of champagne and roses. He's just trying to make

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her feel better. Like he's trying to do all the

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things to prove that he could be a good boyfriend

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for her, especially because Ray didn't make it.

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And maybe now he has a chance. And he seems like

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a decent guy. You know, he seems like that nice

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guy and everything like that. So at this point,

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I'm like 100 % certain that it is Will. Like,

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I'm 100 % certain that it is Will. And I don't

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know what it is. It just felt like it in my mind

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because it's just what it is, you know? Obviously,

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I have no proof of that at this point. I just

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kind of felt that way, that it's going to be

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Will somehow, someway. Now we go off to the,

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uh, Derek, the dock hand is working on the dock

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and he gets surprised, like jump scared by Titus,

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Jack Black, who is going to the mainland for

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a party. And so he just needs him to let this

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boat free and he's going to take the boat and

00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:05.960
get to the mainland for a party. And then he'll

00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:08.059
be back before the morning and before the storm

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starts. That's, that's his idea. So Derek undoes

00:21:11.769 --> 00:21:18.009
it, and Titus walks away, and Derek gets killed

00:21:18.009 --> 00:21:21.630
by the fishermen. Derek is the first one to die

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besides Dave, and I said that on this island,

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the black guy died first. We are following tropes

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pretty much. I mean, Dave, yes, okay, fine, he

00:21:32.529 --> 00:21:35.609
technically died first, but we're, you know,

00:21:35.690 --> 00:21:39.299
we're... nitpicking here about who died first

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Derek died first on the island and then for no

00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:45.279
reason whatsoever also the black maid gets killed

00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:48.000
too so I pointed out that I think this fisherman

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is potentially racist if Carla or Tyrell die

00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:55.039
next this guy is definitely like a racist piece

00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:57.539
of shit so at the same point Carla and Tyrell

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are like having a moment in the hot tub and I

00:22:00.140 --> 00:22:01.599
don't know if I mentioned this or not but they

00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:04.099
got two rooms so Carla and Tyrell are in one

00:22:04.099 --> 00:22:07.650
room and then Will and uh julia and the other

00:22:07.650 --> 00:22:09.950
and will being the nice guy that he is offered

00:22:09.950 --> 00:22:12.569
to sleep on the couch that kind of thing so carla

00:22:12.569 --> 00:22:14.190
and tyrell are having their moment in the hot

00:22:14.190 --> 00:22:18.349
tub and they get disturbed by titus and basically

00:22:18.349 --> 00:22:20.029
he's just trying to figure out where derrick

00:22:20.029 --> 00:22:22.650
went because the boat's no longer there and then

00:22:22.650 --> 00:22:26.329
will shows up and will just decides to hop in

00:22:26.329 --> 00:22:28.930
the hot tub with them and mind you there's multiple

00:22:28.930 --> 00:22:31.250
there's supposed to be multiple hot tubs at this

00:22:31.250 --> 00:22:34.150
resort Will just shows up because he's like,

00:22:34.250 --> 00:22:36.430
oh, this is my friends and everything like that.

00:22:36.710 --> 00:22:39.509
And he's just there to kind of be a hot cock

00:22:39.509 --> 00:22:43.509
block, you know. And this is the point of the

00:22:43.509 --> 00:22:46.029
movie where I felt like this group of people,

00:22:46.069 --> 00:22:48.150
like all of the people in this movie, all of

00:22:48.150 --> 00:22:50.009
the director, the writers, that kind of thing.

00:22:50.109 --> 00:22:52.329
They just want a trip to the Bahamas. And they

00:22:52.329 --> 00:22:55.910
just said, cool, we will make a script and sell

00:22:55.910 --> 00:22:58.069
it as a sequel to I Know What You Did Last Summer.

00:22:58.109 --> 00:23:00.109
And we'll all go to the Bahamas and have a great

00:23:00.109 --> 00:23:02.039
vacation. While they're in the hot tub, Julie

00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:06.079
gets out of the shower and she rubs the mirror.

00:23:06.259 --> 00:23:08.460
And of course, as she does that, a figure passes

00:23:08.460 --> 00:23:11.799
by behind her. And so she's kind of like, huh,

00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:15.500
you know, things are creepy. And she thinks something

00:23:15.500 --> 00:23:20.059
is in the closet. And so she opens the door and

00:23:20.059 --> 00:23:23.180
of course finds a dead body in there. And the

00:23:23.180 --> 00:23:26.380
dead body is like hanging in the closet. So she

00:23:26.380 --> 00:23:30.569
goes to get help from. her gang as well as the

00:23:30.569 --> 00:23:33.509
owner of the hotel or like the the supervisor

00:23:33.509 --> 00:23:36.269
of the hotel and when they come back there's

00:23:36.269 --> 00:23:38.490
nothing in there they also get told at this point

00:23:38.490 --> 00:23:40.789
because it is storm season everything like that

00:23:40.789 --> 00:23:43.430
there are no more boats because they can't take

00:23:43.430 --> 00:23:46.430
it out on the water and the phone lines they

00:23:46.430 --> 00:23:48.730
just went down a few minutes ago now they're

00:23:48.730 --> 00:23:51.430
stuck they they have nobody they can call the

00:23:51.430 --> 00:23:54.210
guy also mentions that there is a radio for emergencies

00:23:54.210 --> 00:23:58.539
but it's most likely there's not going to be

00:23:58.539 --> 00:24:00.799
an emergency that they can use seeing flashes

00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:05.180
to estes estes is in his house and he is doing

00:24:05.180 --> 00:24:07.480
some kind of like voodoo spell and it's just

00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:09.279
kind of showing that he's like a voodoo kind

00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:12.380
of guy and it's definitely one of those diversion

00:24:12.380 --> 00:24:16.279
things where it's oh look at this guy being creepy

00:24:16.279 --> 00:24:18.779
yeah he's definitely the killer that kind of

00:24:18.779 --> 00:24:28.109
thing you just know from the room by the pool.

00:24:28.470 --> 00:24:31.589
He kind of is like the pool boy kind of thing.

00:24:31.950 --> 00:24:34.910
He's about to smoke like this huge bong. And

00:24:34.910 --> 00:24:37.970
as he looks up, he gets attacked by the fishermen.

00:24:38.190 --> 00:24:41.109
He's gone. So we got three dead bodies on this

00:24:41.109 --> 00:24:45.210
island already. On the mainland, Ray, who no

00:24:45.210 --> 00:24:48.210
longer has a car, no longer has a way to get

00:24:48.210 --> 00:24:51.470
to the university or get to the Bahamas. Basically,

00:24:51.549 --> 00:24:54.809
he goes to a pawn shop. to pawn his engagement

00:24:54.809 --> 00:24:58.450
ring so he can get $300 in a gun because he's

00:24:58.450 --> 00:25:00.950
going to the Bahamas. He knows Julie's in trouble.

00:25:01.309 --> 00:25:03.950
So it's the next day and it is raining. And of

00:25:03.950 --> 00:25:05.609
course, it's the start of storm season, everything

00:25:05.609 --> 00:25:07.789
like that. It's not too bad so far, but it's

00:25:07.789 --> 00:25:10.410
just kind of setting the precedence that, hey,

00:25:10.529 --> 00:25:13.029
it's going to be raining for the rest of this

00:25:13.029 --> 00:25:15.210
movie. There's going to be a dark showdown in

00:25:15.210 --> 00:25:18.609
the ring kind of thing. Our main four are looking

00:25:18.609 --> 00:25:21.009
for something to do. Guys go one way, the girls

00:25:21.009 --> 00:25:24.549
go the other. Will is annoying Tyrell while Carla

00:25:24.549 --> 00:25:28.009
and Julie find a gym and more specifically a

00:25:28.009 --> 00:25:33.369
tanning booth off the gym. And so Carla convinces

00:25:33.369 --> 00:25:36.769
Julie to use the tanning booth. And I said, this

00:25:36.769 --> 00:25:38.869
is just an excuse to kind of get Jennifer Love

00:25:38.869 --> 00:25:40.529
Hewitt in her underwear. You know, like this,

00:25:40.589 --> 00:25:42.589
it definitely feels like we just want to see

00:25:42.589 --> 00:25:45.269
her show a little skin kind of thing. I also

00:25:45.269 --> 00:25:49.269
commented at this point that Julie thought she

00:25:49.269 --> 00:25:55.809
saw someone dead last night. And now you're thinking

00:25:55.809 --> 00:25:59.269
about using a tanning bed, half naked, with these

00:25:59.269 --> 00:26:00.769
headphones that you just pulled out of nowhere.

00:26:00.990 --> 00:26:02.849
You're just going to leave yourself susceptible

00:26:02.849 --> 00:26:07.250
to whatever may happen. Cool. Good idea. So Julie

00:26:07.250 --> 00:26:11.049
puts in her headphones and gets into the tanning

00:26:11.049 --> 00:26:15.369
booth and... is on her own Kayla walks away and

00:26:15.369 --> 00:26:17.789
she starts hearing the laundry dryer like going

00:26:17.789 --> 00:26:20.529
crazy and she thinks like oh there was a bit

00:26:20.529 --> 00:26:23.130
before where their dryer was going crazy because

00:26:23.130 --> 00:26:25.289
she put shoes in it so she's like I wonder how

00:26:25.289 --> 00:26:29.569
many shoes are in there and so she like goes

00:26:29.569 --> 00:26:32.910
to the dryer opens it up and when she opens it

00:26:32.910 --> 00:26:35.950
up she screams because the maid's body is in

00:26:35.950 --> 00:26:38.430
there Tyrell and Will are like exploring around

00:26:38.430 --> 00:26:40.150
and they go in the pool house and that's where

00:26:40.150 --> 00:26:44.210
they see Titus dead And of course, the fisherman

00:26:44.210 --> 00:26:47.730
shows up behind Julie in the tanning booth. And

00:26:47.730 --> 00:26:49.789
instead of just like, you know, killing her with

00:26:49.789 --> 00:26:51.710
a hook or whatever while she's unsuspecting,

00:26:51.710 --> 00:26:54.849
the fisherman instead turns up the temp and zip

00:26:54.849 --> 00:26:57.730
ties her in the tanning bed. So she's zip tied

00:26:57.730 --> 00:26:59.690
in. The temperature is turned up, everything

00:26:59.690 --> 00:27:01.890
like that. And you might be thinking to yourself,

00:27:02.029 --> 00:27:03.670
oh, I've seen this before. This was in Final

00:27:03.670 --> 00:27:06.690
Destination 3. You're wrong. This movie was first.

00:27:06.829 --> 00:27:09.890
So it gets all the credit. There you go. So Final

00:27:09.890 --> 00:27:12.950
Destination 3 is just a ripoff of I Still Know

00:27:12.950 --> 00:27:15.230
What You Did Last Summer. So you know what? Congratulations,

00:27:15.690 --> 00:27:18.589
Trey Calloway. You did it. You came up with the

00:27:18.589 --> 00:27:22.230
tanning bed scene first. Carla is locked in the

00:27:22.230 --> 00:27:26.170
laundry, so she can't really get out. And so

00:27:26.170 --> 00:27:28.450
both girls are screaming, and the guys hear it,

00:27:28.470 --> 00:27:31.269
and they come to save the day. So the guys first

00:27:31.269 --> 00:27:35.940
get... carla out of the laundry room by just

00:27:35.940 --> 00:27:37.759
like slamming the door and everything like that

00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.160
and then they're able to find julie in the tanning

00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:44.140
bed and they're able to break the zip tie so

00:27:44.140 --> 00:27:47.380
that she can get out of there so our four are

00:27:47.380 --> 00:27:49.660
still saved now they know they need to go find

00:27:49.660 --> 00:27:52.299
the radio this is this is the excuse they need

00:27:52.299 --> 00:27:55.220
to go find the radio so they go to the front

00:27:55.220 --> 00:27:58.660
desk and the front desk guy yeah he gone the

00:27:58.660 --> 00:28:01.750
manager done And there's a bloody message on

00:28:01.750 --> 00:28:03.849
the wall written in the manager's blood that

00:28:03.849 --> 00:28:07.390
says, I still know. And these guys are kind of

00:28:07.390 --> 00:28:09.549
wondering, like, what does he still know? Why

00:28:09.549 --> 00:28:11.470
is this happening? That kind of thing. So Julie

00:28:11.470 --> 00:28:14.170
tells them all about the killings from last year

00:28:14.170 --> 00:28:17.309
and like what happened and everything like that.

00:28:17.430 --> 00:28:19.950
All right. Now it seems like as good a time as

00:28:19.950 --> 00:28:24.029
any to. tell you all about the podcast that guessed

00:28:24.029 --> 00:28:26.990
it correctly first the bad movie of course we

00:28:26.990 --> 00:28:28.930
have a guessing game for each bad movie we do

00:28:28.930 --> 00:28:31.869
give you a couple clues in gifts that may or

00:28:31.869 --> 00:28:37.549
may not be from the bad movie itself this time

00:28:37.549 --> 00:28:40.549
it is again our friend josh from the your next

00:28:40.549 --> 00:28:43.529
favorite movie podcast he got godsend earlier

00:28:43.529 --> 00:28:46.589
this month and it's just that easy he was the

00:28:46.589 --> 00:28:48.970
first one to guess it If you want to guess it

00:28:48.970 --> 00:28:50.769
and you want to get a shout out, all you have

00:28:50.769 --> 00:28:53.230
to do is play along. Guess it first. And I'm

00:28:53.230 --> 00:28:55.049
happy to give you a shout out or play your ad

00:28:55.049 --> 00:28:57.829
in this episode. Your next favorite movie podcast

00:28:57.829 --> 00:29:02.029
is found at YNF Movie Pod on X slash Twitter

00:29:02.029 --> 00:29:03.890
slash whatever the fuck we're calling it. So

00:29:03.890 --> 00:29:06.250
Josh, congratulations for once again getting

00:29:06.250 --> 00:29:09.809
the bad movie correct first. So now everybody's

00:29:09.809 --> 00:29:11.490
in the know about the killings and everything

00:29:11.490 --> 00:29:14.390
like that. And I think they know who is the guy.

00:29:14.609 --> 00:29:17.859
They think it's Estes. So they go to try to attack

00:29:17.859 --> 00:29:21.480
him before he can get to them. This also shows

00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:25.420
that Ray is now on a bus. And I said, Ray is

00:29:25.420 --> 00:29:28.759
on a bus to the Bahamas. Like I know it was 1998,

00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:33.160
$300. I don't know if it's going to get you a

00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.180
bus ticket and a plane ticket and somehow a boat

00:29:37.180 --> 00:29:40.740
to get to the Bahamas. And that's all he traded

00:29:40.740 --> 00:29:45.319
the engagement ring for $300 and a gun. So somehow

00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.609
some way, taking a bus and a boat and a plane

00:29:48.609 --> 00:29:50.670
or whatever, he's going to get to the Bahamas

00:29:50.670 --> 00:29:52.490
to save the day, right? We all know that's going

00:29:52.490 --> 00:29:54.970
to happen, right? One beer down, another beer

00:29:54.970 --> 00:29:57.809
to go. Let's finish this movie. Our group is

00:29:57.809 --> 00:30:00.170
at Estes' place, and they find things that they

00:30:00.170 --> 00:30:02.970
have been missing, and it's like at a shrine

00:30:02.970 --> 00:30:06.869
-like thing. A couple of things that have just

00:30:06.869 --> 00:30:09.309
like disappeared from them. So like, I don't

00:30:09.309 --> 00:30:11.470
remember the exact things, but you know, like

00:30:11.470 --> 00:30:13.130
a hair scrunchie would be missing or something

00:30:13.130 --> 00:30:15.269
like that. Something particular to these people

00:30:15.269 --> 00:30:18.589
have been missing and it is at the shrine at

00:30:18.589 --> 00:30:22.890
Estes' place. So everything's starting to look

00:30:22.890 --> 00:30:24.750
like it's got to be Estes. He's got to be the

00:30:24.750 --> 00:30:27.329
one that's doing this. So they leave his spot

00:30:27.329 --> 00:30:30.910
and they go back to the main hotel and they find

00:30:30.910 --> 00:30:33.769
weapons to defend themselves. As they get these

00:30:33.769 --> 00:30:36.089
weapons, all of a sudden the power goes out.

00:30:36.430 --> 00:30:38.890
Along with the power going out, Estes pops up

00:30:38.890 --> 00:30:42.109
out of nowhere and he tells them and alerts them

00:30:42.109 --> 00:30:44.829
that the capital of Brazil is not Rio, as they

00:30:44.829 --> 00:30:47.849
had guessed for this contest. It is Brasilia.

00:30:48.230 --> 00:30:51.269
And so now they know that they were set up. Like,

00:30:51.269 --> 00:30:53.490
how did they get this wrong? But they still won

00:30:53.490 --> 00:30:56.210
the contest to go to the Bahamas. Now they know

00:30:56.210 --> 00:30:58.589
it's got to be the fishermen setting them up.

00:30:58.970 --> 00:31:01.329
He also admits that he stole some of their stuff

00:31:01.329 --> 00:31:04.710
to do a voodoo like protection thing. He wants

00:31:04.710 --> 00:31:06.910
to protect them. He doesn't he doesn't want to

00:31:06.910 --> 00:31:09.210
appear like the bad guy as he's having this conversation.

00:31:09.369 --> 00:31:11.589
Like I pointed out, I know it's raining and everything,

00:31:11.750 --> 00:31:15.430
but like this entire movie, they just had Jennifer

00:31:15.430 --> 00:31:20.250
Love Hewitt's hair like always wet. It's just

00:31:20.250 --> 00:31:24.549
it's. It always feels like it's even if they've

00:31:24.549 --> 00:31:27.700
been inside for hours, it feels wet. We now see

00:31:27.700 --> 00:31:31.259
Ray has gotten to the boat captain and is telling

00:31:31.259 --> 00:31:33.640
him that he wants to get to the island. And the

00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:35.779
boat captain was like, nah, no fucking way. I'm

00:31:35.779 --> 00:31:37.500
not going out there. What do you think this is?

00:31:37.539 --> 00:31:39.740
That kind of thing. It's a freaking storm. That

00:31:39.740 --> 00:31:44.440
kind of thing. Ray then uses the gun and holds

00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:46.759
him at gunpoint to get to the island. Back on

00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:49.960
the island, Estes takes them to a graveyard and

00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:53.079
shows them the graves of Sarah and Ben Willis

00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:58.119
and basically reveals the lore. that Sarah and

00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:01.819
Ben used to work on the island themselves. So

00:32:01.819 --> 00:32:04.279
this is kind of how they're connected to this

00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:07.779
Bahama Island kind of thing. And dug next to

00:32:07.779 --> 00:32:10.640
their graves is one marked Julie James with the

00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:14.079
date July 4th, 1998, and then a hole in the ground.

00:32:14.500 --> 00:32:18.420
Dug for presumably Julie when Ben gets his revenge,

00:32:18.619 --> 00:32:22.599
that kind of thing. And this leads to the second

00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:25.640
best Screaming to the Heaven scene in this series.

00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:29.140
Julie, once again, screams to the heavens about,

00:32:29.180 --> 00:32:31.799
like, bring it on, I'm right here, kind of thing.

00:32:32.579 --> 00:32:36.059
And as she's doing this, there's a, like, thunder

00:32:36.059 --> 00:32:40.839
strike, and Estes disappears. And Will goes to

00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:44.880
run after him to find him. And this, again, I've

00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:48.660
said it before and I'll say it again, just feels

00:32:48.660 --> 00:32:51.259
like Estes is going to show up dead, and Will

00:32:51.259 --> 00:32:53.619
is going to be the one who did it. It's fucking

00:32:53.619 --> 00:32:56.849
Will. Will catches up to Estes, who is putting

00:32:56.849 --> 00:32:59.250
a boat in the water, which is a rowboat. It's

00:32:59.250 --> 00:33:03.369
not like a real boat. And he's holding an oar.

00:33:03.670 --> 00:33:07.490
And as Will gets there, he knocks Will out. This

00:33:07.490 --> 00:33:09.349
is the first time I started to question myself.

00:33:09.569 --> 00:33:13.450
And mind you, question, not really. I still think

00:33:13.450 --> 00:33:17.529
it's Will. But that Estes knocked him out, I'm

00:33:17.529 --> 00:33:20.049
kind of like, okay, maybe it's not him. Who knows?

00:33:20.660 --> 00:33:23.819
The others go back to the main building and they

00:33:23.819 --> 00:33:25.940
start grabbing knives and they start looking

00:33:25.940 --> 00:33:27.799
for the fisherman. They know he's somewhere in

00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.500
the hotel. They're going to find him. Nancy is

00:33:30.500 --> 00:33:35.079
still alive and thinking that Tyrell is the killer.

00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:39.039
She hits him in the face with like a pan. Nancy

00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.799
like apologizes. They're having this whole conversation,

00:33:42.019 --> 00:33:44.720
everything like that. And Nancy's also freaked

00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:48.420
out. Like Tyrell still hasn't seen anybody. He's

00:33:48.420 --> 00:33:50.359
seen these bodies, but he hasn't seen anybody.

00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.940
So he's just like frustrated. So he just lashes

00:33:52.940 --> 00:33:55.960
out and is like, I'm tired. I'm hungry. And personally,

00:33:56.059 --> 00:33:58.539
I haven't seen one psycho killer. And then, of

00:33:58.539 --> 00:34:02.480
course, right behind, like right above him, the

00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:05.359
fisherman pops down and starts strangling him

00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.920
with a wire. So now it's only the girls left

00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:10.360
in the hotel. We know that Will's been knocked

00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.960
out. Estes is gone. Tyrell, we assume, has been

00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:17.079
strangled to death. So it's only Carla, Julie,

00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:21.219
and Nancy that are trying to get away. So they

00:34:21.219 --> 00:34:23.880
climb into the attic after being chased by the

00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:27.739
fisherman after he finishes Tyrell off. And so

00:34:27.739 --> 00:34:33.599
they go into the attic. They get away from the

00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:36.360
fisherman, and he doesn't have any clue where

00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:39.260
they are. So they're just quietly trying to cut

00:34:39.260 --> 00:34:43.500
across this beam in the attic so they don't fall

00:34:43.500 --> 00:34:47.179
through the ceiling. And so they can get to the

00:34:47.179 --> 00:34:49.679
other side of the room without the fishermen

00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:54.079
being aware of their spot. This is also a big

00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:57.380
deal because it is above their rooms that this

00:34:57.380 --> 00:35:00.460
attic is and that he could see into their rooms.

00:35:00.500 --> 00:35:02.739
So like they learned that he's basically been

00:35:02.739 --> 00:35:05.519
watching them this entire time. Like he can see

00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:08.239
both of their bedrooms. He knows when they're

00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:09.940
in the room, when they're not, that kind of thing.

00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:14.880
Carla misses the beam and. falls through the

00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:18.980
ceiling and gets knocked into the bedroom with

00:35:18.980 --> 00:35:21.260
the killer nancy is trying to convince julie

00:35:21.260 --> 00:35:24.880
to keep going and leave carla and carla has at

00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:28.019
this point run through a window and jumped out

00:35:28.019 --> 00:35:31.199
of it to land on a greenhouse where she subsequently

00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:34.320
fell through the glass and now she's in the greenhouse

00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.739
and julie instead of like trying to escape decides

00:35:37.739 --> 00:35:39.760
she's going to go back and try to help carla

00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:42.860
Both Nancy and Julie get to the greenhouse and

00:35:42.860 --> 00:35:45.079
the greenhouse is locked on the side they're

00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.539
at. But they can see in, obviously, because it

00:35:47.539 --> 00:35:51.000
is a greenhouse. And so they're trying to open

00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:53.579
the door and then realize that the fisherman

00:35:53.579 --> 00:35:57.179
is behind Carlo, like slowly walking towards

00:35:57.179 --> 00:36:00.400
her. Julie getting very pissed off that the door

00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:04.960
is locked. She like grabs an axe from the fire,

00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:08.719
like. Like a fire axe, she grabs a fire axe and

00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:12.000
smashes through the window and starts getting

00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:16.219
Carla out. As Carla is escaping, her foot gets

00:36:16.219 --> 00:36:19.739
hit by the hook. And this is the same hook, by

00:36:19.739 --> 00:36:22.980
the way, that sunk into easily and grabbed the

00:36:22.980 --> 00:36:24.920
maid and killed her in like one fell swoop. This

00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:27.679
like gets her leg, but just kind of, it's a flesh

00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:29.500
wound kind of thing. It doesn't actually like,

00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:31.539
you know, tear off her foot or anything like

00:36:31.539 --> 00:36:34.380
that. So now they've ended up in like this maintenance

00:36:34.380 --> 00:36:37.280
room escaping from the fishermen and everything.

00:36:37.420 --> 00:36:39.679
And as they turn on the light in the maintenance

00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:42.239
room, they realize all of the dead bodies are

00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:45.739
there, like every single one. And so they want

00:36:45.739 --> 00:36:48.579
to scream, but of course they can't because the

00:36:48.579 --> 00:36:51.119
fishermen will then know where they are. And

00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:55.159
so they're like freaking out. And then Will suddenly

00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:58.260
enters behind them and explains how Estes attacked

00:36:58.260 --> 00:37:01.380
him. They get back into like the main hotel and

00:37:01.380 --> 00:37:04.219
Carla and Nancy go to find a first aid kit to

00:37:04.219 --> 00:37:07.480
like patch up Carla's foot. Will is like covered

00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:10.179
in blood, but Julie realizes there's no real

00:37:10.179 --> 00:37:13.960
wound like there. She sees a he's covered in

00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.639
blood, but there's like no wound anywhere on

00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:22.679
him. And so she starts realizing, oh, this will

00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:26.719
is a part of this. So Will now has Julie like.

00:37:27.260 --> 00:37:30.360
is grabbing her and dragging her to the woods

00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.659
and nancy and carla while looking for the first

00:37:34.659 --> 00:37:37.360
aid kit they come across estes and it's one of

00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.579
those like open the door and estes is there and

00:37:39.579 --> 00:37:42.079
it's like oh god oh god and then estes falls

00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:47.539
onto nancy and estes is dead because estes is

00:37:47.539 --> 00:37:50.000
on top of her nancy can't really escape and the

00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:54.519
fisherman comes in and kills nancy so the fisherman

00:37:55.230 --> 00:37:59.289
From the first movie. Is Ben Willis. I told you

00:37:59.289 --> 00:38:01.550
at the beginning. I've been giving you full names.

00:38:01.650 --> 00:38:05.050
So like Julie James. Ray Bronson. Brandy Norwood.

00:38:06.230 --> 00:38:11.210
Carla Wilson. You know that kind of thing. And

00:38:11.210 --> 00:38:14.969
our friend Will Benson. Why is his name Benson.

00:38:14.989 --> 00:38:18.550
And not Willis you might say. Because he thought

00:38:18.550 --> 00:38:21.369
he was so clever. And his last name is Benson.

00:38:21.710 --> 00:38:28.099
Or Ben's son. Ben's son. And so Ben is still

00:38:28.099 --> 00:38:31.960
alive and his son is Will. This right here might

00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:36.920
have done it. This is the moment. This is the

00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:40.139
moment in this podcast that I knew I was getting

00:38:40.139 --> 00:38:43.139
to. I've watched a ton of bad movies for this

00:38:43.139 --> 00:38:45.519
podcast. An absolute ton. And some of them are

00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:47.460
absolutely terrible. Some of them have terrible

00:38:47.460 --> 00:38:51.019
writing. And this is not the worst one on the

00:38:51.019 --> 00:38:57.019
list by far. However, this is the part that broke

00:38:57.019 --> 00:39:02.320
me. I have been mad for days. I'm not joking

00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:08.079
you. Days about stupid fucking Benson. I am still

00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:12.099
absolutely fuming. Like I am white knuckled because

00:39:12.099 --> 00:39:16.559
my fists are so tight about this stupid revelation

00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:20.219
that he is Ben's son. And that is why his last

00:39:20.219 --> 00:39:25.679
name is Benson. This is fucking dumb. Absolutely

00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:30.300
the stupidest thing ever. And, like, I always

00:39:30.300 --> 00:39:33.019
knew it was Will anyway, so that doesn't bug

00:39:33.019 --> 00:39:35.440
me. If it was Will, fine, whatever. Like, yeah,

00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:38.820
it was predictable, whatever. The fact that they

00:39:38.820 --> 00:39:43.349
think they are so smart writing this in. That

00:39:43.349 --> 00:39:46.050
they think they are smarter than the audience

00:39:46.050 --> 00:39:48.369
and had this right in front of your nose the

00:39:48.369 --> 00:39:51.030
whole time. Oh, his name is Will Benson because

00:39:51.030 --> 00:39:54.750
he's Ben's son. Fuck these writers. Absolutely

00:39:54.750 --> 00:39:59.409
fuck them. And I know I already told you the

00:39:59.409 --> 00:40:01.050
person who wrote these books. I don't know if

00:40:01.050 --> 00:40:03.289
it's in the book or not. I know I told you that

00:40:03.289 --> 00:40:06.510
she's dead. So she gets a pass for now. Trey

00:40:06.510 --> 00:40:09.030
Calloway, the guy who wrote the screenplay for

00:40:09.030 --> 00:40:13.260
this. Fuck you. Absolutely. Fuck you. This is

00:40:13.260 --> 00:40:17.119
the dumbest thing ever. I was so pissed and I'm

00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:19.699
still, I'm fuming. I'm angry. I'm seeing red

00:40:19.699 --> 00:40:23.719
because of this moment. It's one thing to be

00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:26.780
predictable is one thing, but then to be predictable

00:40:26.780 --> 00:40:31.719
and still think you are so smart with this little

00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:33.940
twist that you had and everything like that,

00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:39.039
that you've got Ben's son. I can't, I can't.

00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:43.139
I literally can't. This part of the movie broke

00:40:43.139 --> 00:40:46.679
me. And again, this is not the worst movie I've

00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:50.239
seen. I have seen far worse that have just from

00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.320
the beginning to the end been absolute trash.

00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:55.519
But this is the moment. I knew there was going

00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:58.119
to be a movie somewhere along the line where

00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.699
the end was going to be so dumb that it absolutely

00:41:01.699 --> 00:41:04.559
broke me. And congratulations. I still know what

00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.380
you did last summer. You did it. You are the

00:41:07.380 --> 00:41:12.920
ones that did it. We've got a little bit left

00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.639
of this movie. I promise I'll get probably more

00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:18.539
on this rampage because I'm just I'm still mad

00:41:18.539 --> 00:41:21.039
about this. Let's take a deep breath and talk

00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:26.360
about the fact that now Ben Willis and Will Willis,

00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:27.900
because we don't know if his name's actually

00:41:27.900 --> 00:41:30.719
Will Willis or not. Ben Willis and Will Willis

00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:33.400
are now your two killers. And wouldn't you know

00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:35.079
it, they're they're like playing with their food

00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:37.239
with Julie. And all of a sudden, Ray shows up

00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:42.739
last minute with a gun. But the gun jams. As

00:41:42.739 --> 00:41:46.420
soon as he tries to fire any shots, the gun jams.

00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:50.480
So he just runs full sprint at Will while Julie

00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:53.679
bites Ben's hand to get out of his grasp. Will

00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:56.179
kind of gets a drop on Ray and like holds him

00:41:56.179 --> 00:41:58.500
for Ben to kill. But at the last second, Ray

00:41:58.500 --> 00:42:01.519
hits Will and like runs away, leaving Ben to

00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:04.699
accidentally hit Will and send him out of commission.

00:42:05.179 --> 00:42:08.500
So yes, his own dad sends Will out of commission.

00:42:09.099 --> 00:42:12.539
Angry at Ray now, Ben like leaves his guard down

00:42:12.539 --> 00:42:15.480
and Julie is able to unload like a full round

00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:19.739
into Ben with the gun. And by a full round, she

00:42:19.739 --> 00:42:23.860
has a revolver and she fires nine shots. Eight

00:42:23.860 --> 00:42:27.019
shots that connect and one like empty blank shot.

00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.880
And I said a revolver. That is correct. It's

00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.800
supposed to have six shots. She fires nine shots.

00:42:33.980 --> 00:42:36.519
Eight that hit and one that's supposed to be

00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:40.150
a blank so she can stop firing. Ben, of course,

00:42:40.190 --> 00:42:42.469
then falls into the grave that's marked for Julie.

00:42:42.809 --> 00:42:47.250
That's it. The day is saved. Ben's dead. He killed

00:42:47.250 --> 00:42:52.489
his son, Will. Ben's son. And Carla somehow survives

00:42:52.489 --> 00:42:54.949
and the Coast Guard arrives perfectly after the

00:42:54.949 --> 00:42:58.590
events of the night. The sky is now sunny. There's

00:42:58.590 --> 00:43:01.150
no problem anymore. Storm season's just done.

00:43:02.190 --> 00:43:05.650
And so it goes to another epilogue. And Ray and

00:43:05.650 --> 00:43:08.670
Julie now live together in a new house. And so

00:43:08.670 --> 00:43:11.929
like Julie's like in the house kind of like,

00:43:12.030 --> 00:43:15.869
you know, just happy to be alive kind of thing.

00:43:16.010 --> 00:43:19.469
Ray's brushing his teeth with a electric toothbrush.

00:43:19.650 --> 00:43:21.849
And the only reason I have this is because like

00:43:21.849 --> 00:43:24.190
he at one point holds it out of his mouth and

00:43:24.190 --> 00:43:26.909
goes, I love this thing. Just because. I don't

00:43:26.909 --> 00:43:29.670
know. Julie starts wandering around the house

00:43:29.670 --> 00:43:31.289
because she feels uncomfortable all of a sudden.

00:43:31.829 --> 00:43:34.699
And she just thinks maybe it's in her head. So

00:43:34.699 --> 00:43:37.159
she sits back on the bed and she looks towards

00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:39.579
the mirror that they have in the room. And she

00:43:39.579 --> 00:43:42.039
sees that Ben is under the bed who grabs her

00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.480
legs and drags her under. And that's the end.

00:43:45.539 --> 00:43:47.940
That's the end of I Still Know What You Did Last

00:43:47.940 --> 00:43:50.239
Summer. I've already started my rant about the

00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.639
thing I absolutely hate. And I'm probably going

00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:55.519
to get back to it. But let's go through the things

00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:58.460
first about this movie. It's not a good sequel.

00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:03.260
Especially compared to... the first movie. And

00:44:03.260 --> 00:44:05.900
again, the first movie is kind of meh in general.

00:44:05.980 --> 00:44:07.860
I enjoy it. There's some fun moments, that kind

00:44:07.860 --> 00:44:10.420
of thing. There's definitely not as much fun

00:44:10.420 --> 00:44:12.599
in this movie. You know, you could tell they

00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.559
tried, but there's just not as much fun in this.

00:44:16.059 --> 00:44:18.920
Some of the things just come across too heavy

00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:21.920
handed. Like even though I love Titus, you know,

00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:24.880
his character was just, Oh, he's a pothead and

00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:28.340
like a slacker. That's it. You know, that kind

00:44:28.340 --> 00:44:32.679
of thing. Um, uh, Tyrell is kind of like this

00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:37.760
self -confident, cocky, condescending sex fiend

00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:39.420
that just wants to get it in. You know, that

00:44:39.420 --> 00:44:43.260
kind of thing. Carla was just the friend. Will

00:44:43.260 --> 00:44:47.920
was obvious, such a nice guy that you knew something

00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:52.480
was up with him. Estes was the creepy guy on

00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:54.800
the outside where they're just trying to build

00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:57.760
him up as a suspect, but he's... You know, he's

00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:59.679
not really a suspect. And they just kind of make

00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.059
him do voodoo just because he's going to do voodoo.

00:45:02.340 --> 00:45:05.619
That's the thing. It's a whole movie of stereotypes.

00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:09.480
And it also was revealed at one point about the

00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:11.099
whole morning show and everything. It should

00:45:11.099 --> 00:45:13.699
be obvious. They didn't call in. The morning

00:45:13.699 --> 00:45:16.920
show called them. And the fact that they guessed

00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:20.079
Rio and got it wrong but still won the trip.

00:45:20.219 --> 00:45:22.599
I mean, I guess when you get a question right,

00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.119
you don't look it up again. I would have probably

00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:27.619
tried to figure it out. I don't know. Maybe that's

00:45:27.619 --> 00:45:36.079
just me. Overall, this movie is dated way from

00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:41.000
the beginning. It was never going to be rewatchable

00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:44.420
because of how dated it is. One of the things

00:45:44.420 --> 00:45:47.059
I didn't even mention in this. So the entire

00:45:47.059 --> 00:45:49.519
movie basically is just Ray trying to get there,

00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:51.840
and it's just like one -off scenes and everything.

00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.739
So it feels very much like he was filming other

00:45:55.739 --> 00:45:58.460
things and was just kind of there to be in a

00:45:58.460 --> 00:46:01.360
couple scenes here or there. So at that same

00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.219
time, there really wasn't anything else he was

00:46:04.219 --> 00:46:06.820
working on. He was in a TV movie that same year,

00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:10.260
and he was in a movie at the same time in 1997

00:46:10.260 --> 00:46:12.739
with I Know What You Did Last Summer. It just

00:46:12.739 --> 00:46:14.659
kind of feels like he was an afterthought. Like

00:46:14.659 --> 00:46:16.099
they just want to get him out of the picture.

00:46:16.579 --> 00:46:19.719
And so the entire time he's just in little scenes

00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:23.079
here or there that must have taken, I don't know,

00:46:23.099 --> 00:46:25.900
like a day or two to record or to like a film

00:46:25.900 --> 00:46:29.400
where he's like on a bus, he's on the boat, he's

00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:31.199
threatening the boat captain. It's these like

00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:36.139
two, three minute scenes, the entire movie that

00:46:36.139 --> 00:46:38.619
just to give him a story arc kind of thing to

00:46:38.619 --> 00:46:43.159
get to the Bahamas. And. I can't imagine it took

00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:45.059
him more than like a week to film this thing.

00:46:45.380 --> 00:46:49.320
Mind you, this movie was released a year, a year

00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:51.659
and a month after the first one was released.

00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.179
So either they already had plans and were already

00:46:55.179 --> 00:46:58.340
filming it, or they put this one together really

00:46:58.340 --> 00:47:02.239
last second. And because of his schedule or whatever,

00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:04.579
they just put him in these little scenes to kind

00:47:04.579 --> 00:47:07.699
of like get him as part of the story. But also

00:47:07.699 --> 00:47:09.960
he didn't have to be there with the rest of the

00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:13.159
crew or whatever. So it felt very weird with

00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:17.019
Freddie Prinze Jr.'s character of Ray. It felt

00:47:17.019 --> 00:47:18.960
like he was just like an afterthought for pretty

00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:21.360
much the entirety of the movie. It was definitely

00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:23.519
our four characters that we were following the

00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:25.780
whole time. Those were definitely the four with

00:47:25.780 --> 00:47:29.800
the most screen time, that kind of thing. The

00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:32.380
kills were basic. There's some that were a little

00:47:32.380 --> 00:47:35.239
more like, oh, wow, okay, that was a little gruesome,

00:47:35.260 --> 00:47:38.659
but not much for the most part. They didn't do

00:47:38.659 --> 00:47:42.500
anything very... original you know it was either

00:47:42.500 --> 00:47:46.139
they got killed by a fish hook or there was like

00:47:46.139 --> 00:47:48.920
one other one i can't even remember that's how

00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:51.179
little it stuck out to me but basically it was

00:47:51.179 --> 00:47:54.579
fish hook kills um especially when i watch horror

00:47:54.579 --> 00:47:56.920
movies with a slasher i kind of like the idea

00:47:56.920 --> 00:48:01.199
of more crazy kills i know that saying that as

00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:03.599
a big fan of the scream series where everybody

00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:08.139
basically gets it by a knife i like when killers

00:48:08.139 --> 00:48:10.969
get creative I like that in movies. I like that

00:48:10.969 --> 00:48:14.650
fun kind of thing where I rate those kills better

00:48:14.650 --> 00:48:17.010
because they thought of something to make it

00:48:17.010 --> 00:48:20.409
stand out more. Obviously, my biggest problem

00:48:20.409 --> 00:48:24.530
with the film is Ben's son. It just absolutely

00:48:24.530 --> 00:48:27.460
was. It was meaningless, truthfully. I mean,

00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:29.920
you could have just had him be his son. You didn't

00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.099
have to have him thinking he's so smart and going,

00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:38.780
yeah, my name is Will Benson, get it? That kind

00:48:38.780 --> 00:48:40.820
of thing, and thinking he's so clever and everything

00:48:40.820 --> 00:48:45.599
like that. That was just awful. It totally killed

00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:48.039
the momentum of the movie, which it didn't have

00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:51.539
much to go with at the beginning anyway. These

00:48:51.539 --> 00:48:55.119
movies are a trilogy. don't watch i always will

00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:57.599
remember what you did last summer don't watch

00:48:57.599 --> 00:48:59.179
i still know what you did last summer because

00:48:59.179 --> 00:49:01.820
you'll just be frustrated at the end and even

00:49:01.820 --> 00:49:05.179
the first one like it's not bad it's it's definitely

00:49:05.179 --> 00:49:08.380
like um if you're looking for a trilogy to watch

00:49:08.380 --> 00:49:11.460
during the halloween season or as these movies

00:49:11.460 --> 00:49:15.199
are a fourth of july trilogy uh definitely avoid

00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:17.599
these ones i would say the first one is good

00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:21.059
for a watch or two like i haven't re -watched

00:49:21.059 --> 00:49:23.579
it much since watching it the first time you

00:49:23.579 --> 00:49:25.300
know i've watched it maybe once or twice more

00:49:25.300 --> 00:49:28.699
uh this one definitely not going to be another

00:49:28.699 --> 00:49:33.780
one i re -watch so yeah it's uh this failed as

00:49:33.780 --> 00:49:35.840
a sequel in every way it didn't give the characters

00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:37.960
anything more compelling to do it didn't make

00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:41.840
them any more fun and truthfully it lost a lot

00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:44.820
because of some of the gimmicks it pulled and

00:49:44.820 --> 00:49:49.550
that kind of thing um so yeah i I can't say much

00:49:49.550 --> 00:49:52.369
more about this. So time to give it a rating.

00:49:53.190 --> 00:49:57.710
Before the reveal of Ben's son, I would say this

00:49:57.710 --> 00:50:02.110
movie is one out of five fishhooks. After the

00:50:02.110 --> 00:50:06.170
reveal of Ben's son, I think I have to. I think

00:50:06.170 --> 00:50:09.650
it's a 0 .25 fishhooks out of five. I really

00:50:09.650 --> 00:50:12.150
do. I think it killed it that much. I think it

00:50:12.150 --> 00:50:15.349
had no momentum going in. Anyway, but at least

00:50:15.349 --> 00:50:19.849
it was okay. I don't know. I feel like I'm being

00:50:19.849 --> 00:50:24.809
generous on the one. I'm not being disgenerous

00:50:24.809 --> 00:50:27.650
on the .25. I feel like it definitely deserves

00:50:27.650 --> 00:50:30.590
that or lower. It may deserve an actual zero

00:50:30.590 --> 00:50:36.510
because of that. The movie itself, as far as

00:50:36.510 --> 00:50:38.389
bad movies go, it's not going to be the worst

00:50:38.389 --> 00:50:40.090
I've watched. It's not going to be the best I've

00:50:40.090 --> 00:50:42.010
watched. It's definitely right in that middle

00:50:42.010 --> 00:50:44.710
ground. maybe leaning more towards the worst

00:50:44.710 --> 00:50:49.250
side. The twist at the end with the Ben Sun just

00:50:49.250 --> 00:50:52.889
pissed me off so much. I'm literally a week after,

00:50:52.969 --> 00:50:57.210
and I'm still fuming. That's how bad that got

00:50:57.210 --> 00:51:02.289
me. So, yeah, a .25 out of 5 fishhooks or Ben

00:51:02.289 --> 00:51:07.300
Suns. Thank you guys very much for tuning in

00:51:07.300 --> 00:51:09.219
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00:51:09.219 --> 00:51:11.420
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00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:20.380
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00:51:20.380 --> 00:51:24.599
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00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:26.659
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00:51:26.659 --> 00:51:29.480
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