In a world with terrible movies, four friends
compete against each other to watch the worst
of the worst. After seeing the movies, they come
together and review them for your pleasure. Who
saw the worst movie? What did they think of it?
Was it really that bad? Challenges are different
every week, but Andre, Mike, Mitchell, and T
-Dog have to have their wits about them. No one
wants to see a bad movie, so to be forced to
is the worst thing imaginable. Can they stay
off the loser board and not have to see a bad
movie? their time to lose this week. The answer
to these questions and more on Game for a Movie.
Hello and welcome to the fourth episode of Game
for a Movie, where we ask, are you game for a
movie? I am your host, Mike. I'm Mitchell. I'm
Andre. It's been a while. Whoa. Whoa. Coming
in hot. Dang. Was that a little... Stained? Is
that it? I was just going to say... Third Eye
Blend? I don't know. No, I think it's stained.
Stained, yes. I was just going to say, no matter
what it was, it was butt rock. Yes. Oh, yeah.
We're pivoting to a butt rock podcast, so...
Oh, no. No. And there goes our last viewer. Or
listener, I guess. We were missing somebody last
time. T -Dog, you're back. Where were you? I
cannot disclose where I was. I told you it was
a murder trial. You gotta quit it. I told you,
he died from, what did I say last week? Dysentery.
You didn't say he died, you just said he had
explosive diarrhea. Oh, true. Yeah, explosive
diarrhea. I said he was a ghost the whole time.
Oh, that's it. See? I mean... Mitchell's is pretty
plausible. I'm not saying it wasn't. I said that
you're on trial for murder, which I know. I was
a witness to it. Plot twist. I said you were
a ghost the whole time, and I have to say, I've
never been able to touch you. So I don't know
if it's still untrue. I guess we may never know.
Or maybe stay tuned to episode, like, 98 of this
podcast. The grand reveal. The grand reveal.
I like it. If we make it to 98, I'll be shocked.
A 98 -act structure. I like it. Let's do it.
Hey, I'm in. So, we also want to say happy birthday,
T -Dog. Your birthday was sometime in the past
year. We know. Right? There's 365 days. Not one
of them. This past year, that one day was...
It's a good birthday. That was a day to remember.
It was pretty special. Yeah, you know? Yeah,
it was a good time. It's like I, you know, I
don't know. It's like a day had passed in time,
so. Oh, wow. It was good. Very positive. Dude,
that's really deep. Yeah, man. Yeah, I enjoyed
it. It's like if you averaged out the other days,
it's about the same. Oh, nice. So humble. Dude,
I can't wait to hear your review. For your birthday,
of course, you had to watch a terrible movie
because we ended up doing a random draft generator.
Yeah, let's quote unquote random on this, but
yeah. You lost multiple times. We ran it like
ten times. It's like, oh, let's see. The fates
had decided. T -Dog loses. That's the primary,
you know. Well, you get to choose a challenge
this week. Just don't lose. If T -Dog is absent,
he loses. The challenge I picked this week, if
your name's Mike, you lose. That is terrible.
Especially since one person in our group still
has not seen a bad movie. I don't know what you're
talking about. I think I'm just calling it out
there. I only see great movies. I try to. He's
come really close to losing multiple times. There's
some fumbles. Yeah, right? He's been second to
last a few times. Dude, I'm a survivor. Surviving
is all you need. You don't need to win. You just
don't need to lose. There you go. All right,
let's jump into this week's movies. I guess I
will start because we want to end with T -Dog,
and that's just the way we go around the table.
I saw technically two -for -one movies this week.
Double feature. I had always had an interest.
I wanted to see Happy Death Day because I like
the concept of the repeating the same day. One
of my favorite movies is Groundhog Day. I thought
you were going to say Freaky Friday. No, I was
not going to say Freaky Friday. That's not a
repeating. That's just a body swap. I realized
that as I said it. I'm pretty sure it's a Lil
Dicky song. But yeah, so I rented Happy Death
Day to see Happy Death Day 2U. So you were caught
up on the lore. It's 2U. It's not 2. It's 2U
as the kids do. As the kids text each other with
their SMS. And their emojis. I have to say, this
is a PG -13 scary movie. Both of them, yes. And
so I put scary in quotes. It's definitely more
of a thriller than scary, I would say. The first
one I actually really enjoyed. I actually thought
it was dumb, but it was self -aware enough. So
for the listeners at home, what's the basic thesis
behind Happy Death Day? What's the thesis statement
to this piece? So this girl wakes up on her birthday
in a guy's bedroom, like a dorm. So this is college.
Yes, this is college. Yes, it takes place in
college. Sorry. She's in sorority, that kind
of stuff. She goes through her day. At the end
of the day, she gets murdered. Oh, no. But she
wakes up again in the dorm going like, oh, it
was a dream, like what happened, that kind of
thing. But everything's replaying the same thing.
Okay. And then so she's like kind of nervous
about this one area because this is where she
got murdered. So she avoids it and like goes
the opposite way. This guy has a baby face mask,
which is, like, really creepy. Like the, is it
King Cake Baby or whatever? Yeah. Oh, right.
So it's in Louisiana. Oh, so it is. And the university
is the Bayfield Babies. Gotcha. So, like, they
try to... Connect it. Sure. And, like, in the
second one, there's a throwaway joke, like, who
chose a baby? It's, like, really creepy looking.
Like, that kind of, you know, like, there's self
-awareness. And, like, there's a bunch of different,
like, tropes and that kind of stuff. What you
need to know about the first movie, she figures
it out, she gets the guy, day is saved. Gets
the guys and the murderer. Gets the murderer
as well as the love interest. Sexy. I'm in. There's
that. We jump to Happy Death Day to you. First
movie, I give a 3 .5 baby mask out of 5. It was
dumb and everything like that, but it's a fun
watch. It was very self -aware. That is also
something I like, including there's like a joke
at the end where the guy is just like, oh, yeah,
like they're talking about the fact she's relived
the same day. She's like, oh, or he's like, yeah,
that reminds me of Groundhog Day. And she's like,
what? And he's like, you know, the movie with
Bill Murray. She goes, never seen it. Wow. You
know, like that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes. At the end of the first one. And he's just
like, oh, my God. Like, OK. End of movie one.
Movie two. Here's where things get weird. So
the guy has an Asian roommate who, for the entire
first movie, the only line he would say, he would
walk in and say, did you hit that fine vagina?
Oh, God. Charming. That is the limit of what
he has said in the first movie. Okay. In the
second movie, we come to learn he's a nerd that's
built this machine, and he is now getting killed
and reliving the same day. Oh, boy. So he's the
main character? No. What type of machine did
he build, though? So he built this machine that
is supposed to pause time. What the fuck? Okay.
Yes. Oh, we're getting deep into the rabbit hole,
my friends. Like he's just a college student.
He's like, guys, I unlocked the secret to our
temporal reality. Exactly. I'm going to pause
time. Exactly. And so basically they figure out
who the murderer is in like the first 20 minutes.
It's himself from another timeline. Whoa. And
then they drop that entirely. Okay. Entirely.
And I'm so mad because I would have watched that
movie. That's funny though. What do they pivot
after that? Was that just as a punchline? So
the machine starts up. The machine. And they
find out that, oh man, the machine. I am the
machine. They find out that this machine has
malfunctioned. That's why she was in the time
loop in the first place. Oh, so they're, like,
explaining the first movie. Exactly, because
science, you know. I think that's all right.
All right. Sure. It checks out. It's fine. Sure.
It literally is just science. Like, they just
throw a capacitor. That all checks out. I saw
Back to the Future. That makes sense. So the
machine malfunctions. She gets sent to another
timeline where she starts the day -over -again
process. so it's her again so going through but
in this timeline her mother's alive but her boyfriend
is dating her sorority bitch of a sister oh god
does she know she's in the time loop like is
she aware she's now aware for the second time
the first time she didn't okay but like now she's
she like remembers or knows that she was like
pushed into a different timeline type she figures
that out okay She figures it out mostly when
she goes to lunch with her dad and her mom comes
and she's like, Mom, you're alive. Like that
kind of thing. So she relives the same day. To
figure it out, she has to help the people that
are not reliving the same day close the time
loop. So they try all these different formulas
to close the time loop. But basically she has
to remember all the ones they did so they can
try a new one. And instead of letting the killer
kill her, she kills herself. So she's dead? No,
she's in the loop over and over and over again
still. And then basically the end is she has
to figure out what timeline she wants to stay
in. The one where her boyfriend is dating the
bitch sorority sister? That's just her... generic.
That's how it is. So the one where she doesn't
have a boyfriend, or the one where she doesn't
have a mom, basically? Yes. If only she could
find a new boyfriend. Right, that's my logic.
It's like, well... But here's the thing. Here's
the thing. She's in love with him. She's in love
with him, as well as her mom didn't die. So she
has all these memories that aren't really memories.
That her mom holds and is just like, oh, do you
remember that day? So she's almost like a different
person. Exactly. That's kind of cool. I like
that. So that was one thing that I was like,
okay, that's solid. She doesn't inherit these
memories. No, she doesn't inherit these. That's
cool, actually. She feels like she's living somebody
else's life. That's tight. That's like a Black
Mirror episode. part was cool but like there's
so much stuff that's just like science yay and
like the killer from the first one is still alive
in the second one but not the killer of the first
one okay and you know that kind of stuff um the
second one because they tried this mumbo jumbo
i'm trying to like we've talked a while on this
so i'm trying to like close it up anytime you
put in time travel yeah no exactly it's like
the multiverse theory does the plot hold together
with all this multiverse shit basically yeah
yeah but they just basically like an overarching
just throw science sure i mean like whatever
you don't have to explain your your pg -13 horror
movie you know yeah exactly and i will say the
second one was not a horror movie not at all
it wasn't a thriller either really was it more
of like a mystery more of a drama so what happened
to the guy that like killed himself from another
timeline So that guy found out he died one time
and then found out the killer was himself. And
then they just dropped that storyline. Was it
the guy? It was like the first act. Mystery solved.
Move on to this thing. Exactly. But was it the
guy from the timeline that she went to? No, it
was from the first one. So not the one where
she ends up in? No, not the one she ends up in.
I'm now being confused. So universe A, universe
B. Universe A is where she's originally from.
And she died all these times, gets through the
day. Then Asian roommate dies. She gets explained
what happened. And she's like, okay, we'll trap
the killer. And they figure out the killer is
himself. He is from Universe C. Some other one
they don't explain. And then he just disappears
and is just not part of it. I thought there might
be, like, a link from... Basically, he's just,
like... You mean, like, it was a well -written
movie. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. It was not a well
-written movie. I thought we were too... So,
what were you listening to? Did you have a good
time? I had a decent time, because, like, some
of the stuff was funny. She killed herself a
bunch of times. There was one where, like...
That was hilarious. But, no, there was one where,
like, she, like, skydives out of a plane without
a parachute wearing a bikini. Oh, okay. She does
it... A little dance service. But she does it...
with uh in front of her boyfriend that's not
her boyfriend and the bitch sorority sister yeah
and like kind of like and the camera gives the
fingers like it's very fourth wall break like
okay yeah but it's having fun even with a morbid
so did i enjoy it yes Is it as good as the first
one? No. The first one was definitely more self
-aware and more fun. Do we need to see this in
theaters? You do not need to see this in theaters.
What is this movie called? Happy Death Day to
You. To You. And I pulled it up on IMDb because
I just want to say that Jessica Roth, the main
character... is awesome. That's her name. I would
see her in a lot more things. I feel like she's
right now just in these two movies, but she has
this timing. I feel like a lot of people make
their break in... horror movies almost. Exactly.
Jamie Lee Curtis with Halloween. Exactly. And
so this could be a stepping off point. I think
next step would probably be romantic comedy for
her probably. Because she very much can handle
that comedy element. She's very good at that.
But yeah, I would say this movie 1 .5 out of
5. That's more negative than I anticipated. 3
.5 to 1 .5. Yes. Wow. It's very much I don't
care for the fact that they just explained it
all. They just said science. Yeah. Like, you
know, they didn't say, okay, we've got to do
this because the flux capacitor is malfunctioning,
like that kind of stuff. Right. Even though I
understand flux capacitors. Wow, that's lower
than I thought you were going to come down on.
It's like, yeah, I totally know what you mean.
Yeah. Short hand for science mumbo jumbo. Right,
right, right. And so that's really the reason
I have to give it so low. It was fun, but it
was just kind of... let's throw it. I will say
for movies like that, for it to have an average
of two and a half across the two movies, that's
not bad. I mean, you know what you're getting
yourself into. Exactly. And like, if there was
a third, would I see a third? Yeah, probably.
There you go. I would see a third. Okay. So,
I'm shitting on it, but it's more so just the
script was kind of rough. Sure. As your PG -13
horror movies tend to be. Exactly. And it's a
multiverse and stuff like that. It's ambitious,
to say the least. I will say this. Just the production
company that makes the Happy Death Day 2U stuff,
it's Blumhouse. So they made Get Out. They made
Split. The Purge series. Their main thing is
small budget. And then decent amount of box office
for that small budget. So happy death day to
you. $9 million spent on the movie. Okay. They
made in total $54 .5 million. Not bad. I think
like even this week it's still like fifth or
something like that in box office. So it's still
growing. It's still making money. Like it's going.
They're probably going to do a third one. And
like I said, I would probably see it. Cool. Yeah,
but we'll go on to something actually. Okay,
it is legit. I mean, it's now an Oscar winner.
It's free solo. It is the best documentary winner
of this year. And as a sports fan, I'm happy
to say that now three years running, a sports
movie has won Best Stock. So it's this, Icarus,
which was the cycling movie from last year. I
loved Icarus. That's on Netflix. Highly recommend
that. Oh, so good. And then the year before was
O .J. Made in America. So there's three movies,
all of different styles and storytelling. O .J.
Made in America is considered a movie even though
it was like two parts. Yeah, funny enough about
it. So because... So there's certain things that
you need to do to get a film qualified. Either
in a film festival, it has to win an award, or
it's screened in Los Angeles at a certain number
of theaters. So the folks who produced it, the
necessary things in order to get the nomination.
And obviously in good favor because they ended
up taking home the top prize for their film.
Ezra Edelman's a great documentary filmmaker.
He made the... bird versus magic one i think
i'm totally messing up the name and then he made
one for hbo about the brooklyn dodgers which
is really cool back in like the mid aughts so
anyway fantastic sorry free solo yeah sports
sports so this sport is a little different it's
not mainstream at all um you definitely hopefully
heard of the story about this guy who um free
soloed and that means climbing up the scale of
the side of a mountain um without any rope So
just chalking your hands and the technique that
you have to climb, you know, sometimes upwards
of 2 ,500 feet. And Free Solo is about his climb
of El Capitan, which is at Yosemite, which was
for the longest time considered a thing that
no one could free solo. You'd be insane to do
it. Right. And it's including the guy who eventually
made the climb. And it's one of those movies
where... we know that he survives he was out
on the press tour promoting the movie and all
that yeah but it doesn't matter this movie it
still draws you into the drama it's incredible
how cinematic this movie is so so so i i'm totally
ignorant on this movie basically is it so is
it like footage of it or is it like a reenactment
basically no so this is a true documentary so
they're documenting his journey in uh doing the
free solo climb of okay okay and it's part of
me I'm so open to a crack of beer and ready to
talk about this movie. It's excellent. Oh, yeah.
By the way, I do drink beer. And gin and tonic,
apparently. And gin and tonic, apparently. So,
one best doc, and for good reason. Like I said
before, the cinematography is outstanding. It's
cinematic at its core. And I want to point that
out at the very beginning, only because I think
I mentioned a couple weeks ago with our podcast
when I did... they shall not grow old. We are
in a boom of documentary filmmaking, which not
only means more docs, but also means more different
kinds of docs. So we're talking about documentary
films that are basically breaking the boundaries
of what you would think is a documentary. The
way some of the shots are portrayed and captured,
it really puts you in the, I guess, shorts because
that's all he's wearing of this guy who's climbing
this thing my palms were sweating during the
last half hour which is essentially dedicated
to the climb yeah they do a great job of not
only portraying himself as a climber but also
himself as a person And this is something I typically
do not sign up for, but the documentarians put
themselves in the movie. And the reason being
is because they're actually personal friends
with the guy making this client. Gotcha. Okay,
so they're part of the story then. So they kind
of have to be almost because they are part of
it. Exactly. And one of the biggest trepidations
about this guy, he frees solos alone. When he
goes out, he doesn't tell anyone, mainly because
he doesn't want to have the burden of someone
worrying about him in mind. Right. That's fair.
So the first attempt when he tried to scale El
Cap. He bailed out. He bailed out maybe 10 %
of the way through. And this is after doing,
by the way, dozens of trial runs with rope. So
he knows what to expect when he's at different
places on El Cap. And for whatever reason, he's
like, guys, I'm out. And it was because he was
freaked out about having these cameras around
him. He has this girlfriend who is like his first
legitimate girlfriend. And this is, that's a
huge part of his arc is dealing with. balancing
a life with her versus doing what he wants to
do. How old is this guy when he does the full
climb then? How long ago was that too? So Alex
Holland did this in I think it was 2016. So it
was a little over two years ago. So I remember
one of my friends on Instagram used to follow
him a while ago and I would see pictures of him
just free climbing these crazy I guess mountains
or whatever. But I don't think I ever, I did
not realize that was the guy who did that until
I just looked it up now. Yes. Have you ever seen
his fingers when he does that? His fingers are
insane. Yeah. They're muscular. Like, I kid you
not, the type of hands and the type of form you
take as a free solo climber, like all the muscles
that you don't even think about from the forearm
down to your fingertips, they all grow to a massive
extent. Because there's a lot of points when
you are grabbing onto something basically the
size of your fingernail. holding on for dear
life you're right this is something where one
minor slip up and you fall so and fall to your
death see I watched the trailer for it because
I was intrigued by it before the Oscars and everything
like that and it just even the trailer for me
is just kind of like holy crap like knowing He
makes it through and everything like that. You
still get that lump in your stomach. You get
the white knuckle grab on tight. They put you
in that experience. Alex Honnold is his name.
I misspoke earlier. He does this amazing thing,
but just to think about it from the filmmaker's
point of view. They really put you in his shoes
because they do such an effective job of showing
scale. And I think the only other movie that
I can compare it to, and it's really dorky that
this comes to mind, but Rogue One, when they
basically compare the size of different ships,
I cannot explain how great that is, especially
when ships are coming at a hyperspeed. Like,
holy shit, this is what the Empire is working
with? Right, right, right. It really puts you
in the Rebel's shoes. Like, holy crap. Like,
we have these rinky -dinkies. ships the millennium
falcons like this big and then here comes the
star destroyer yep yep and it's incredible did
a really good job of scale there yeah so they
do a great job with el cap showing what he climbs
yeah i expected to talk about star wars when
talking about for so long you know it can't it
can't be overstated i don't think i think it's
a huge part of filmmaking so anyway uh the cinematography
is gorgeous i could totally see why they won
uh best stock excuse me and um And it's an amazing
story, not only of the trials that he went through
to accomplish this task that I believe he's still
the only one to have done this. Okay. It's pretty
recent, right? It's 2016 or whatever. And he
says at the very end, he's like, you know, this
will be this guy, not a likable dude. I will
say that. Oh, really? At certain points, because
he is so solely focused on getting this one task
done... To be that driven, I feel like you have...
I mean, I don't want to talk bad about it. I
haven't seen the movie, and I don't know him
at all, but I feel like my assumption is if you're
this driven to do something, you've got to be
some sort of sociopath. Absolutely. He is solely
focused on becoming the best free solo climber
in the world, and frankly, he is. And when you
see the way he treats his girlfriend, how he
blames her for certain things, distracting him
from accomplishing certain goals, or even the
way he treats... friends it becomes really off
-putting and it's really strange that you're
rooting for him at the end and i think the reason
being is because the little bit of humanity that
becomes relatable that's revealed is the moments
before he's about to climb and when he is climbing
for whatever reason all that you know bullshit
of bravado goes away all this like you know just
being a boss to everyone else that they have
to serve you or put you in the best position
goes away and he's free, you know? Well, I kind
of see it the way you were explaining too. That
may be part of it is he's driving people away
kind of too. Possibly. That's why he's not likable
because he doesn't want to have that burden.
Yes. You know, like you were saying before, that's
kind of what I got when hearing this. Yeah, that's
a good way to interpret it. Because he could
be pushing people and just... So he doesn't feel
as bad if one of these times he falls. Right.
And he doesn't feel like there's all these people
that were counting on him. I just think that
if you're that driven, then you're not worried
about what other people think about you, for
better or worse. That's fair. Which you definitely
get a part of, but there is a piece of humanity
that develops within him over time. He stays
with this girl despite all these different things
that he previously put the blame on her. But
eventually she wins him over. And it's such a
beautiful thing that you see there. And ultimately,
you do root for this guy. You really do. And
it's not to say that this guy doesn't have friends.
A lot of these climbers are friends and stuff.
And they do legitimately care about him. But
they go into his backstory. Dad never hugged
him. It's the typical stuff you would think.
Why is he cold? This is part of it probably.
Exactly. So it works both ways. Okay. But anyway,
highly recommend it. Cool. Hopefully it's still
in theaters. I'm not sure. I ask this question
every time, but I do want to see this. Do I need
to see it in IMAX? So I did not see it in IMAX.
I just saw it in a traditional $10. you know
theater or whatever well worth the ticket price
really and I rarely say that about documentaries
because a lot of it you could definitely watch
from the comfort of your own home I feel like
part of the experience is seeing the breadth
of El Capitan like trying to climb it you know
absolutely those shots I feel like yeah It's
cinematic, guys. And a lot of movies, even with
bigger budgets, don't capture the feeling or
the scale of what you would experience on a climb
like this. And if you're too afraid to make a
climb like that, like me, this is your one chance.
And you'll make it out alive, just like Alex.
I give it... I was just going to say rating.
Yes. I was hoping to catch you off guard again.
Four and a half L caps out of five. Nice. Very
happy with it. Very happy. Yeah, four and a half
fingers would be good. You need all those fingers.
Weird muscular fingers. You need all those fingers
if you're going to scale a mountainside like
that. Okay, Andre, I see you cracking open a
beer. I did crack open a beer. Is that because
of the movie you saw or is it because of just
beer? Yeah, well, both. Okay. Yeah, so... Okay,
so this week I, along with T -Dog and Mitchell,
we watched How to Train Your Dragon, The Hidden
World. That's number three. That's number three.
The final of the How to Train Your Dragon trilogy.
I am over three so far. Until they make another
one and then it's no longer part of it. Right,
and I hope they don't, but we'll see. Anyways,
so backstory. I'm a huge fan of the first two
How to Train Your Dragons. They're my favorite
DreamWorks series easily. How are we going into
this? Because I do want to see the series eventually.
Do I need to excuse myself? No, no, no, no. I'm
going to try to keep it spoiler free because
of what I was thinking about is that I want this
to be recommendation of the series to you because
you haven't seen it yet. Yes. Sell it to me.
Yes. So I'll try to talk in generality. So excuse
me for being vague. Honestly, it's a kid's movie.
The plot, the narrative is not the reason why
I super, well, whatever. It's not the twists
and turns. You guys were talking about like the
animation style and that kind of stuff before
we got started. Yeah. So, basically, yeah, off
the bat, like, this movie looks gorgeous, honestly.
It's probably the best DreamWorks has ever looked,
which makes sense. It's their latest movie, and
this is their biggest budget film. Um, yeah.
I mean, like, there was, like, a particular scene,
like, where, like, the wet sand, like, there
was, like, a scene where, uh, they're, like,
it's, like, on a beach, and, uh, Toothless, the
main dragon, is drawing on, in the wet sand,
and I, like, literally gasped. I was like, wow,
that looks, that looks dope. That looks really,
really good. The particle simulation is really
good. Yeah, like, that's, like, it seemed very
natural. Exactly. Like, it didn't take me out
of it. It was, like, wow. T -Dog with the particle
simulation. Nice. I like it. No, that's a good
term. I like it. Yeah. So, visually, this is
right up there with Pixar, in my opinion. Like,
maybe, you know, we can nitpick and stuff, but
it's close, you know? Did you just fake gas?
Yeah. At least make a noise. Come on. This is
audio. I didn't want to stop him. But I will
say this, from an animation look standpoint,
yes. Story -wise. Story -wise, no, no, no, no.
I'm not talking about story. I'm talking pure
animation right now. I'm with you. So, yeah,
I should talk. So, like, basically, the kind
of idea behind How to Train a Dragon, it's this,
like, it takes place in this, like, kind of Viking
village called Berk. The first film, like, it's
just the whole entire trilogy covers, like, Hiccup,
which is, he was, like, the heir to this, like,
he's, like, the son of the chieftain. He's kind
of, like, this nerdy, plucky kid. Like, his dad's
the normal Viking warrior guy. And they, like,
the first movie, most are talking about the first
movie, really, in that, like, they grow up to
hatred. They fight dragons, you know. The Vikings
will fight the dragons. The first movie kind
of covers Hiccup, forms a bond with Toothless,
a rare dragon, a night fury. And he's, like,
the first kid to kind of form a bond with a dragon,
first person to train a dragon, and kind of wins
the town over on... relationship with dragons
so by the time we get to the third movie the
dragons have been integrated with society you
know like they're hanging out Toothless and Hiccup
are like best friends at this point and what
I really like about these films is that each
one there's like a significant time gap so like
Hiccup is like a kid in the first one and this
one he's a young adult like he's I think I looked
at the age he's supposed to be like 20 21 or
something he's double now you know so like I
like like that what I really like about this
trilogy as a whole in that like you see these
characters grow up you know Is it, like, real
time? Like, when the movie's released? Oh, I
don't think so, because I think the gap between
two and three, lore -wise, is smaller. I think
it's only, like, two years after the second one.
Gotcha. Yeah, okay. But whatever. It's close.
Yeah. Similar. I kind of want to watch them all
in order, like, back -to -back to see how it
goes. Anyways. I'm willing to watch them, so,
like, yeah. I really, like, honestly, yeah. So,
okay. Should I actually talk about this movie?
So... Plot -wise, it was very predictable, unfortunately.
I feel like there was, like, it's very breakneck
-paced. Like, there's, like, all right, we introduce
this villain, and, like, we introduce this conflict.
Oh, that conflict's resolved. Oh, we introduce
this bad guy. Oh, that bad guy's resolved. Like,
you know, like, it's, you know, there's moments
of tension between, like, oh, like, how are these
characters going to interact with each other?
Like, you know, like, there's a point where Toothless
finds, basically, a dragon girlfriend, the, what
do they call her? The Light Fury. I've seen it
in the trailer. Yes, she's in the trailer. And
then there's this moment with Hiccup being like,
oh crap, Toothless has a girlfriend now. He's
not going to have time for me. Exactly. Well,
he's like, well, crap, what do I do without Toothless?
And then that's resolved really quickly, frankly.
The bad guy is, like, he's supposed to be...
His backstory is he's the villain that... He's,
like, the world's best dragon hunter, and he's
hunted down all of the Night Furies. He's the
reason that Toothless is the last Night Fury.
Yet he doesn't know... Like, somebody tells him,
like, well, how about that Night Fury that that
Berk kid has? And he's surprised. Like, what?
The Berk guy? Like, you know... Why is there
still a Night Fury? Yeah, and then whatever.
Minor spoilers. But at this point, like... Hiccup
is the leader of Berk, and Toothless, the main
dragon, is the leader of the dragons. So, like...
their notoriety is pretty high. So it's like,
oh great, the greatest dragon hunter doesn't
know that there's a living Night Fury and he's
the alpha. It's dumb a little bit. I think the
story is pretty consistent with 1 and 2. You
think so? Maybe 1 was better. 1 was probably
better in that it was a little more novel at
the time. I would say... I would say that 2 was
probably the lowest in terms of just basic story.
Kind of just... They meet this villain type,
who they think is the villain. Villain type.
That's the best way to describe it. Villain type,
yeah. Because I don't even know the dude's name.
Villain type is a common theme, it feels like.
It's a kids movie. And then they meet the actual
villain, and then... They take care of the villain.
That's essentially the story. Very condensed,
right? So that just convinces me that I need
to rewatch the first two to see how I feel about
it. But I remember the second one especially
having more emotional resonant moments in the
middle of the narrative. There's times where
things happen in that movie where they linger
on it for a little bit and let the characters
sink. I don't know if I... specific moments i'm
talking about where certain characters meet their
demise and stuff and it's like oh wow like that
has some significant revocations like there's
a solid chunk of the movie where they're recovering
from that you know so two and three are on the
same level i go back to it just because this
is the only real guide we have rotten tomatoes
has both of them at basically the same level
which is what what's that uh 92 percent okay
overall and what is three at Both. 92 % overall.
89 % for audience. Both of them are on the same
level. Okay. What about the first one? 98%. Oh,
good. Okay. I would say, yeah, honestly, if I'm
going to rank these in the trilogy, I'm going
to rank them one, two, three for me. Okay. Yeah.
So as an individual film, like How to Train Your
Dragon Hidden World is, like, it's good. It's
fine. You know? Yeah. I would say, like, in a
vacuum, it's a fine kids movie. It's well animated.
The plot, yeah, there's no real conflict. The
thing that almost hurts it is being part of a
trilogy. I would say that's the only reason I
would elevate it even higher. To me, it's kind
of cheap in that the actual main plot, everything
gets resolved super quickly. There's no moments
to linger like I feel like the first two had,
where there's not really many quiet moments of
character development. It's just like, oh, we've
got to take care of this thing. Oh, we took care
of it. We've got to take care of that thing.
We took care of that. And then finally, in the
last 15 minutes, I got the... quiet moments,
moments I guess that I really wanted, like the
emotional resonance, the payoff, it just felt
like the pacing was off. And the plot was a little
predictable. But, I mean, that's the same for
the first two movies. The plot's predictable
there, too, but it just felt like a more natural
curve, if that makes sense. Yeah, that makes
sense. That was a super general description.
I appreciate it. There were no stakes. There
were no stakes. There were no stakes in the movie.
Yeah, definitely. That's fair. Where there should
have been. By definition, there were. But how
it all played out, you never felt it. No. We
were kind of in the final conflict, and I'm like...
oh, this is the final battle. We're here? How
did we get here? Yeah, exactly. None of it felt
earned. It just felt like we're moving on. There
was no time to breathe. I don't know. They steamroll
through that final encounter. They do. They wanted
those last few minutes. They wanted to get under
two hours for sure. That's the hard part with
kid movies. It was number 44, dude. Oh, was it?
Yeah. But that's the thing I find hard about
watching kids' movies and stuff like that, is
because they have such a smaller time frame,
too, after Rush. Yeah, and at the end of the
day, that's why I'm not going to be super harsh
on it, because it is a really great kids' movie.
And, I mean, I'm in a weird place because the
first one came out when I was in college, so
it's not like I was like, oh, I grew up with
this. I have been with these characters for a
while. Seeing these characters interact with
each other, that was satisfying for me as a fan.
I would say don't watch this as your first How
to Train Your Dragon movie if you can avoid it.
It's fine. You can do it if your kid wants to
go or something like that. Yeah, go for it. You
won't hate it. But I would say if you want to
watch How to Train Your Dragon, do it in order.
Take your time with it. You don't have to watch
them all at the same time. Just, you know, they're
good. I'm going to go through them. It's still
on my list of ones I want to see. I would not
suggest paying $18 to see the Dobie Vision. version
of it. If two of your friends who have the AMC
pass that's covered suggest this Dobie Vision
showing of it, do not fucking go. I mean, just
don't. We gave you that option. We're like, hey,
T -Dog. I considered it. You said T -Dog. I still
wanted to see the movie. I just didn't realize
I was getting fucking pigeonholed into this.
I know. Kevin, come on. I mean, T -Dog. T -Dog.
I mean, Casper the Friendly Ghost. Whatever you
want to be. No, we gave you that option, homie.
We're like, hey, do you want to go see it in
3D? Hey, we already decided to go to this movie.
Yeah, 3D for a couple dollars less. Yeah, it'll
be $2 less. Dude, I hate 3D so much, though.
I would honestly pay an extra to not go to 3D,
frankly. If they had the same amount of... So
what I've found lately is they don't have the
same amount of movie times. and that's what the
problem is they try to push it on sell you 3d
right so they have like 20 times that you can
go see a movie in a day yep yeah and like movies
that don't need it even They'll try to sell you
on that? Very few. I mean, it looked great. You
know, and I had not been to Adobe Vision type
thing. Neither have I. I don't know if the sound,
like, you know, occasionally when a dragon would
fly in or something, you know, you'd feel it.
Yeah. So you would feel it. Oh, the chair's wrong.
Well, because the sound... Like the... Well,
it wasn't like motorized. It was just that wild.
It's the sound system. So the sound system...
I wouldn't say grid, but it's formed in numerous
spots above. And so you can feel it as something
comes in. It's just this film isn't really designed
to be that type of immersion. Definitely not.
Well, there's parts, though. So, okay, I guess
minor spoilers, but the movie's called The Hidden
World. When they go to The Hidden World, that
place looks sick. Also revealed in the trailer,
so don't worry about it. They're there for like
two blocks. Because they found out that there
was all these dragons that had been hidden away.
from everybody. Yes, and maybe that's the theme
of the movie. It looks fantastic. I feel like
I should have told you what I know going in so
that you know how to curtail it. Yes, they went
to this hidden world and they found it. They
found it. But they're only there for like 15
minutes. Not even. That was like five. This is
bullshit. I was promised a hidden world. Maybe
that's part of the theming where humans can't
roam, where dragons are in a dragon realm or
whatever. But yeah, I feel like I wanted to be
there for a longer time. That's fair. That's
just a symptom. Whoa, wow, this looks really
cool. Oh, we're going back to the next conflict.
You know what I wanted? What's that? I wanted
my fucking seat to extend. fully oh yeah so if
you typically go to an amc with the nice recliners
your feet could go all the way up it is the best
experience on the planet but then if you roll
up to a dolby cinema you like it goes like a
quarter of the way up yeah well yeah i mean your
knees feel like they're at this awkward position
yeah and like no i just sat straight up at that
point yeah me too i gave up like you saw me i
was like squirming i know first half hour yeah
Well, I was worried because I thought you were
having a terrible time. No, it wasn't because
of the movie. I was trying to figure out my knees.
No, it was just like I could not get comfortable.
And mainly because in my mindset, I'm like, yo,
I can go all the way back. Well, they needed
more of the legs to go straight out rather than
this V -type curve. Those are not $18 seats.
I don't know. I don't care if you buy it. I mean,
you know, $10, cool. Sure. Oh, the standard movie?
Yeah, right. Well, aside from, like, you know,
doing the $5 Tuesday type thing. Oh, yeah, yeah,
yeah. Obviously, that'd be a... I thought it
looked great. I enjoyed the movie. Not my favorite
storyline, but overall, you know, I'm glad I
went. Yeah. Finished off the trilogy. Exactly.
$18 for that movie. I know. I'm not a fan. I'm
sorry. Well, look at the ticket price. But I
was feeling hot. I just got my... I know, I know.
You guys are like, oh man, I gotta make... Pretty
much almost paid for it. Yeah, that's what I
was going to say. You're trying to make it back
in a single movie. Because you're paying 20 bucks
a month. Oh, yes. Exactly. It was that. Aelita.
Paid for that month, for sure. Done. Dude, alright.
So going back to the visuals real quick, as we're
filling time. Mike went to the bathroom, by the
way. We really need to fill time. He's pissing
in the corner of my apartment right now. We're
just waiting. Behind the curtain. I thought my
favorite shots, and you explained the sand thing,
which is beautiful. And the Frozen 2 trailer
got a lot of eyes on that too. But anyway, the
wide shots of all the dragons and what's the
name of the initial? Burke. You could feast your
eyes on that for hours because of how much detail
there is on screen and how clean and beautiful
it looks. It just visually, thematically, it
really resonated with me just because, like,
comparing with those original shots in the first
movie. Oh, God. It's so different. On purpose.
Like, it's not a problem, but, like, you're like,
it's like, oh, wow, like, this village has really
grown, you know? Exactly. It's awesome. It shows
you how far the characters in that village have
come since the first movie. And there's little
touches, like, this is so dumb. I'm going down
the rabbit hole here so much. But there's a scene
where a certain character saves Hiccup, and he
says to that character, like, oh, I knew. you'd
come around and they replay a theme on the fucking
this is how nerdy I am I've listened to the first
the movie's soundtrack so many times there's
a song called I'll Come Around and that's like
they played that when I come around yeah oh no
is it that one yeah it's that one it's just that
it's Green Day it's just Green Day they just
yeah it was just dookie like the whole soundtrack
was just dookie for the first one we were a touch
of choice yes sign me up for that no but it's
cool that they do have callbacks to that and
I will say this for DreamWorks to come out and
say this is the third and final chapter yes I
feel like that's solid. And for the storytellers
to know that, and they could have these callbacks
for the true fans, and puts a bow on things.
I like that. Yeah, definitely. I would say, so...
So where are we jumping in rating -wise? You're
right, yeah, sorry, I need to wrap this up. Okay,
so as a movie by itself, just fine. Good kids
movie. Okay, so are you going to have two different
ratings here? No, I won't. As a cap -off, this
is my perspective as a fan of the first two and
as a cap -off to the trilogy, and really this
is getting carried by the last 15 -ish minutes,
I'm going to give it three and a half flaming
dragon swords out of... Yeah, I know. Wow, too
high? Yeah, so anyways, three and a half flaming
dragon swords out of five. Okay, now you're giving
me the idea. What did you two give it? I'm giving
it a solid two. Okay, wow. That's what I'm saying.
I'm a big story first guy. No, no, no. Which
is fair. You guys are all very different in different
ways. This makes sense why there's different
things. I think I... base my rating per movie,
so it's not necessarily a story, but if you do
other things really well, I like it for what
it did. For sure. I agree with Andre's 3 .5.
Maybe more towards 3. It's like a 3 .25. Yeah,
maybe a 3 .25. We're getting so decimally. We're
getting so decimally. Okay. God, alright. I give
it a 3 .1456. Yeah. Okay. Alright. That's how
you train in Dragon 3. So, to our loser, T -Dog,
whose birthday was sometime in the past year.
And had to watch a shitty movie. Who had to watch
a shitty movie for that consecutive time. That's
true. The previous time being... The sequel to
Holmes and Watson. If you would have been here
last week, or last time, you would not have had
to see... A crappy movie in between. So don't
give us that consecutive bullshit. I said my
consecutive bullshit. Yeah, I understood. We're
on the same level. I watched the Netflix original.
Wow, it's a Netflix original. What was the name
again? Because Mitchell would be sarcastic. Maybe
Steven Spielberg has a point. Oh, stop that.
I watched IO. Ohio? I -O. I'm still hearing Ohio.
I'm sorry. Rough state, let me tell you. I -O.
We can imagine that it's based in Ohio, I think.
Is it actually based in Ohio? It's in Akron.
This is like a dystopian future. Just imagine
that we're in Akron or somewhere in Ohio. That
sounds like a nightmare. I mean, didn't Ready
Player One take place in Columbus? It did. Yeah.
We saw a beautiful ad place. Yeah, right. Seen
it in Columbus. All right. Alright, keep going,
sorry. So, I don't... Does anyone know when it
was released? It was fairly new. I didn't watch
it. I can't say that it's been on my to -watch
list. That's not a big deal. I just, you know,
if anyone had any... I think it matters. It says
2019. That's what I mean. I think it was within
the past... Yeah, exactly. It was within the
past month. I remember seeing trailers for it
before and I was actually like... know i might
be interested in that movie because i like this
post -apocalyptic uh type earth right yeah then
you remember this is a punishment yeah wait so
this is set on earth This is set on Earth. Okay.
There's Anthony Mackie. Yes. And the other, some
female lead who I don't recall. Margaret, Sarah
Margaret Qualley. Okay. Qualley. Sorry if I'm
butchering that name. I looked up some of the
movies that she was in before. I don't think
I remembered or recognized many. Do you think
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? Oh, wow. She's
going to be in that. I don't know what to watch.
Oh, she's in the Nice Guys? Yeah, she's in the
Nice Guys. Oh. Yeah, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,
yeah. What if, like, the year that came out,
the Nice Guys, low -key, one of my favorite movies.
Oh, yeah. That was way better than it got. Oh,
she's the... She's the shitty, she's Mia in fucking
Death Note. The shitty Netflix adaptation of
that. Alright, I already hate this movie. Oh
my god, she was, alright. She was so bad. We
are hijacking T -Dogs. Spoilers, yeah. Go for
it, go for it. Spoilers alert. Spoiler alert.
Yeah. Spoilers. She did not. carry this movie.
Okay. Got it. She didn't carry that note either.
That was just a spit take. Yes! I'm pretty sure
it came out of his nose. Okay. It's clean. I'm
good. Okay. So, we are set on Earth. Sure. Okay.
Love it so far. She is by herself. So we think
that her father is somewhere else on Earth as
well to start the show. Yeah, I mean, you know,
just wait for me to... Sorry. I know you guys
love to interrupt me. No, it's really not. It's
like whoever's in this position... We just ask
terrible shitty questions. I have no basis of
understanding this film. This is why Leo the
Lion last time lasted a half hour is because
these two... Leo the Lion lasted for 30 minutes.
Pretty much, yeah. Because these guys go, wait,
whoa, whoa, whoa. So this happened? What? What?
Just keep them up. We're not going to ever watch
these movies. Never. We have to get all the details
now or never. But you guys have to understand
that I'm trying to tell it as it unfolds. Does
this movie deserve that? I believe it does. I'll
explain why as I go. So she essentially is by
herself. She's in a research station. Kind of
what's described is she has this pen pal type
boyfriend who is uh because at one point it's
we we don't know whether or not um they've i
i assume that they were in one time physical
contact uh more so like now they're at the point
where he's off in io or at io at some sorry yeah
what is io Okay, so moon of Jupiter, but there's
some space station, I think. They don't really
go into much detail about how they left Earth
and where they're now. How quickly can one get
to Io? Not quickly, but that's part of the, I
guess... problem that she's experiencing is that
um so they wanted everyone to leave earth because
it's now become you know um most of the atmosphere
is no longer inhabitable by humans toxic to humans
right because the oxygen levels are not um sustained
it's the bad ending of interstellar basically
yeah kind of part of that now now there are pockets
of earth which um i'm not entirely sure how you
know this would work out there are pockets of
earth which it's um So she's currently on this
little research colony. They have bees. Well,
the bees survived. That's good. Oh, wow. Well,
you know, kind of. Okay. Oh, God. They're mutant
bees. Sorry. Oh, killer bees. I don't know. Oh,
shit. I'm glad we don't have killer bees in this
world. And that's how the movie ends. Killer
bees kill her. That's the end. That's it. I made
all this? Okay, no, that didn't. Oh. Unfortunately.
Yeah, that would have been nice. The bees! The
bees! Let's see. So we have this inhabitable
Earth. They've already moved most of the population
off of Earth to some space station colony. Elysium.
Yeah, we really don't know how well. This is
like the most unoriginal movie. Yeah, but it's
a generic dystopian side. I mean, it's basically
everything you can think of, just added elements
of it. Okay, cool. So when do the aliens come
in? You said any element. Is one of them a robot?
What? Say that again. You said any element. I'm
taking from Aliens and saying that it would be
like... Really long skull aliens. Which one's
the Cylon? Is there any way that's a Cylon in
there? Technically, the humans are aliens when
they move. I guess that's true. Wow. Is that
the deep messaging in the movie? We need a wall
around Io. Build a wall. Build a space wall.
I'm going to build the biggest wall. All right.
All right. All right. Wrong aliens. We don't
need an Io one. We'll pay for it. An Io one will
pay for it. Wrong aliens, guys. Okay. We do not
know what type of technology that humans have
at this point, just that they're able to go that
far away and sustain life. So Elon Musk has done
it, and they have space travel firms. SpaceX
have made it out. There's Tesla cars flying around.
Got it. Great. Falcon X was a success. This is
great. All right, cool. And now I think it should
be I -O, right? Yeah. And I think somebody said
E -O and I started saying E -O after that. It's
I -O. It's I -O. I'm assuming. E -I -E -I -O.
Yeah, so. Craig Elo, man. Yeah, okay. Yeah, exactly.
Okay, cool, cool. So. All right, she's documenting
her findings as she's going. We see her inject
herself with samples of something that form,
I would say, a reaction, like some sort of hive.
Okay. Basically, she's trying to immune us. Make
yourself immune to that? Yeah, but the issue
with that is they never really describe what
she's doing aside from... Got it, okay. Great
storytelling. It's a very minor point later on
that they mention it. As we go back. science
yes oh science science for science although it
was interesting because some some things are
very specific like almost too specific like how
something would work and so it was almost like
somebody this was like somebody's project where
they're like oh let's think out how something
like this would happen but then they leave out
major details in other aspects we we have this
um we have this kind of eerie feeling that she's
by herself um they never make it clear and then
all of a sudden uh this hot air balloon arrived
it's you know it's a little more than a just
a basic hot air balloon but yeah some kind of
craft anthony mackie you know he's showing up
for the first time. Anthony Mackie. He's ready
to save the movie from any destruction. Is Anthony
Mackie just Falcon? Like, does he have his Falcon
suit? Yeah, yeah. I mean, he didn't even need
the balloon structure that he had done. He just
shows up and he's like asking where Steve Rogers
is. That's what I want to know. He's like, you
know. So, like, all Marvel characters that do
movies outside of the Marvel Universe, they suck
first, right? Like, some of them do good movies,
but they have one suck. Robert Downey Jr. was
a great actor. No, no, no. I'm talking about
after they became horrible. Oh, they have a dud
afterwards. I'm trying to think because Scarlett
Johansson goes to the show. Oh, my God, yeah.
Robert Downey Jr., the judge. You cut me deep
with that one. Oh, God. Yeah, you're right. We
have Here We Go with Chris Evans. What about
Chris Hemsworth? That is on our list, by the
way, of bad movies. Yeah. Chris Hemsworth, what
are you... Oh, what was he in? I mean, Rush was
kind of disappointing, I guess. Oh, I love Rush.
I am a bannerman for House Rush. Okay. I am ready
to go to bat for that movie. Sorry, we distracted.
Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry. Okay. Marvel.
Falcon shows up. Yes. And he saves the baby,
basically. No. So, he's looking for her father.
Are we all? Yeah, you know. Yeah. I mean, not
really looking for someone else's father. Anyways.
Well, no, because he's looking for her father,
who's a scientist. So this has been, he's been...
Oh, Anthony Mackie's looking for the girl's father.
Which is the researcher. He's a very well -known
researcher because they've played in... Yeah,
please, please. Spit it out. Mike, you're struggling
here. Chris Hemsworth was in Snow White and the
Huntsman after the event. Sorry, keep going.
It's not bad. Sorry, keep going. I know, I know,
I know. I feel bad about it. I feel bad about
it. No, it's fine. It's just they're going off.
I'm trying to rush over here. I gotta watch it
again, I guess. Please let me not interrupt you.
So, basically, you know, through the public broadcasting
system. Yeah, it's not branded PBS, right? Mr.
Rogers is back? He's never going to get through
this. This might be the worst. This might be
worse than actually watching this. This is why
all our podcasts are over an hour. Okay. And
why nobody will actually ever listen. I've listened
twice, and I always unsubscribe, then subscribe
to get the extra download. Oh, there you go.
It's a trick. Oh, smart decision. I'll probably
be banned after this. iTunes is like, none of
that. They now know the strategy. Okay, so initially
there was an effort. And this might have been
revealed a little bit later on, but it's fine
revealing it now to you guys. There was an effort,
especially by her father, to have people stay
on Earth to help restructure and revive Earth,
essentially, to make it inhabitable for these,
I guess, the people that were still on Earth
at the time. And then, so, you know, they keep
broadcasting this out. Her father was a big proponent
of that for a while. And so Anthony Mackie shows
up, you know, demands to see her father. She
like, you know, kind of dances around the subject,
but she's like, oh yeah, you know, he's off on
this. research expedition he'll be back in a
few days uh you you can tell that she one she's
she seems awkward in the movie the entire time
but like on purpose yeah um that's questionable
okay it might be the character but it might be
the act yeah yeah the acting she was awkward
not on purpose and definitely yeah so that's
the thing like the acting seems a little bit
unnatural as well um in this part in particular
because she's supposed to be acting unnatural
And, you know, she's already unnatural, so it's
like extra. Wait, how is she unnatural? Like,
is she supposed to be acting unnatural? Yeah,
because... He's looking for her father. Right.
Who at the time we think or is proposed that
he's still alive on Earth. Uh -huh. Okay, so.
Do we know if she knows if he's still alive?
We don't know for sure at this time. Gotcha.
Okay. It's been like very, you know, non, I guess,
non -confrontational that anything has happened
to him. Gotcha. For, you know, aside from like.
little cues we suspect that he's still alive
probably not though okay okay if that makes sense
so yeah i mean spoiler alert so i'm sorry so
so anthony mackie is going to io to find the
father no this is all on earth okay this is all
on earth okay he arrives here from a different
part of earth to find her father. Okay. So Anthony
Mackie is from a different pocket on Earth. Exactly.
A country. A nation, if you will. Okay. He's
coming from Australia. You know, welcome to the
first 40 minutes of the movie. Wow. All right.
How long is this thing? How long is this movie?
I don't know. Okay. Oh, I'm so glad I only had
to see an hour and a half movie versus a two
hour movie. Maybe it was less, but it went very
slow. Like nothing happened. Nothing happened
in the time that this movie was going on. Essentially,
I mean, I can probably explain this as the same.
Okay. Yeah. Well, so how's the cinematography?
Oh, Jesus. Was there anything rewarding about
this movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are there any upsides
to this? So they don't really show a lot. Like,
there's no beautiful landscape. What a great
movie. So there's no shots. Yeah, it's basically
this pocket of this research. area which is just
really you know some tents and rundown so the
set design it's not like cool like it's just
generic sci -fi and it stays in it stays in this
very centralized position so it's really just
like a research facility but like yeah it's not
even a big facility it sounds like the fire festival
yeah so so there are there are certain research
facilities there's like okay like alien takes
place entirely on a ship and that ship is really
cool but this is and you know honestly festival
it's i can't even remember exactly what it is
i think this is Okay. Yeah. With, you know, run
-down building structure with a few tents around.
I might be a little bit off because I was not...
It did not engross my attention. Gotcha. Okay.
You were not fully engaged with Io. You were
not engaged with... Well, no, this is Earth again.
Oh, but yes. The film Io. Okay, so if this fucking
film was called Io, then why the fuck are we
on Earth still? Yeah, that's the point. Like,
to get to Io. So she's staying around because
her dad, you know... Okay, one... One... Uh,
so we find out most of this at the same time.
Um, Anthony Mackie is looking for her father
and what, so they, those two, the girl and Anthony
Mackie fall in love a little bit, like really
quickly, you know, because they're just chilling.
What about her pen pal boyfriend? Yeah. Exactly.
Is she, is Anthony Mackie the pen pal boyfriend?
The pen pal boyfriend reveals that he's going.
He's been selected for this mission, not on the
space station on Io. And so they won't see each
other for a long time. And so she basically breaks
down, cries, and then her and Anthony Mackie
hook up. Nice. They start Mackie. Yeah, exactly.
It's this little Mack scenario. Now, I'm not
entirely sure which event happens first. I think
this happened before. She tells him that... Originally,
she said that she was just a researcher, like
one of his assistants. And then she reveals that
she is his daughter, actually. And that he had
been away for... Well, at one time, she was telling
him that she was... When you were listening.
Yeah, exactly. Okay. And then, so he reveals...
Well, I think she reveals first that her father's
dead. Yeah. Yeah. Shockers to everyone. Fuck.
Shockers. He's dead? Yeah. And not only that,
but her mom died at one point. And it was kind
of because, I don't remember exactly if it was
because of her father. So her mother was sick
for a while, and maybe if they would have left
Earth, it would have been all right. If they
made it to Io, it would have been okay. But before
her father died, he wanted her to go to Io as
a word. Like, don't stay here because of me and
try to save this Earth type thing. I just want
you to make it to Io. But she stays here. With
great power comes great responsibility. But you
don't have any power. You have a lot of responsibility
but no power. During her research time, slightly
around when Anthony Mackie started coming, the
last of the bees died off. Not the bees! Not
the bees! So at this point, Anthony Mackie...
The bees are my favorite character. Hold on,
hold on. When did he build the Falcon suit? Yeah,
I don't know. At some point in the season. Okay.
So, Anthony Mackie is nothing else besides Falcon
anyway. Oh, and the guy who lost to Eminem in
A -Mile. Yeah, there you go. I liked him in,
what's the Christmas movie? A Night Before. Oh,
The Night Before. The Night Before. I liked that.
So, he did a decent movie. All right. Yeah, I
really liked that movie. He was good in The Hurt
Locker. That's why I feel bad for him. He was
in The Hurt Locker. Yeah, he was in The Hurt
Locker. Okay. He's a good actor. Let me be clear.
Him and our guy together. Let me be clear. He
was not the reason the movie sucked. Okay. That's
fair. It's not Anthony Mackie's fault is what
you're saying. But, yeah, like, no matter how
well he acted, he could not redeem this movie.
So is he in trouble? Yeah, you can't see. There's
something, like, that's what I want to know.
This whole fucking movie is, like, just them
kind of talking. Yeah, that's essentially it.
A lot of dialogue. No, it's not even that much
dialogue. I can see why Mac was drawn to that,
though. I found an interesting connection. In
terms of having a project where there's a lot
of screen time for you. And honestly, it could
be one of those things where the script is better
than the movie. Right. Okay, maybe. I found an
interesting connection with Anthony Mackie and
Chris Evans. Okay. In 2014, before Captain America
Winter Soldier, which we were introduced to Falcon,
Chris Evans and Anthony Mackie were in a movie
together called Plane Cool. It sucked. Who are
the lead characters? Chris Evans, Michelle Monaghan.
Oh, Michelle Monaghan. The ever lovable Aubrey
Plaza. Oh, I love Aubrey Plaza. She's so likable.
We got Luke Wilson. Martin Starr, the guy who
plays Gilfoyle in Freaks and Geeks. And of course,
the ever, ever lovable Topher Grace. Topher Grace,
man. That's a white Klansman. He's a great actor.
I haven't seen Black Klansman. He was the grand
wizard. I own Black Klansman. I am planning on
watching it this next cycle. It was good. I'm
excited for it. It's not his fault that somebody
cast him as Venom. No, it's not. Oh, Topher Grace?
Dude, get that paycheck, dude. Yeah, he got that
superhero... It was a smart move by Topher Grace.
He got that mid -2000s superhero film paycheck.
I don't blame him. Back to Anthony Mackie and
IO. What are you talking about? Oh, yeah. So,
Anthony Mackie's macking. Yeah, he's macking
on, you know, this researcher's daughter. But...
Who's dead? He originally came here to, like,
you know... Find the researcher. Yeah, to lay
some smack down. To lay some smack down. Bubble
gum. He ran out of bubble gum. Oh, shit. So,
the researcher was advocating people stay here,
and essentially that's how his wife, I think
it was his wife. Anthony Mackie's wife. Anthony
Mackie's macking on this researcher's daughter
when he's married. Died. Died. Died. Listen to
the full explanation. Died. Died. I'm sorry.
Died. Wow. So his wife died. He died. She died.
She died. She dead. She gone. She gone. She gone.
She gone, bitch. Rip. Rip. Gone, bitch. So that's
why he showed up here. To basically deal with
this researcher. Who knows what he would have
done. Maybe killed the researcher. Maybe, like,
you know, been like... I'm really mad at you,
but it's all right. I'm not sure. Who knows?
Is that it? Is this the movie? No. No, I'm not
done yet. Okay. Let's speak towards the climax
here. Well, yeah, you know, if you guys want
to interrupt. No, no, no. I'm not saying it's
not our fault. I'm saying... I think you... do
not understand something. The entire movie is
a climax. Like, it's just a constant climax.
You're butchering on the climax. I'm sorry, you're
saying you're climaxing the whole entire time?
Yeah, it sounds great. Yeah, yeah. Climacking?
You said the secret word. Everybody take a shot.
That is a new element to the podcast. I was joking.
That's a very dangerous proposition. No, that
is great. I'm going to choose the secret word.
We're going to have shots. And if anybody sees
the secret word, we take shots. Part of the reason
why we're interrupting is because he's the last
and we've had drinks already. Understood. Keep
going. Let me gather myself again. All right.
They've kind of vented out their grievances to
each other. They're hooking up for a while. At
some point, they actually see a bee. They find
a new bee. Basically, a recently hatched queen.
Do they name it Toothless? Keep going. Is it
voiced by Jerry Seinfeld? Stop listening to these
two. It might have been a better movie. Another
premise of the story is that the last set of
pods that were going to go back to Io are now
going to launch in a couple days. She's finally
decided that she wants to leave after this. I
don't exactly understand her, like, sudden realization.
Like, her dad has been dead, like, a year at
this point. It was probably, like, the bees dying
type thing. And maybe her boyfriend finally being
like, hey, you know. Okay, so. I don't understand.
Where does Io, like, they go to Io ever or not?
She feels hopeless, so she wants to leave her.
You know, I'm getting there. You're getting there.
I'm getting there. I'm impatient. Yeah, yeah,
you're really impatient. I'm sorry. All right.
Should we wait until Mitchell gets back? No,
no, no. Keep going. I think he said his piece.
All right. So, originally, they were near a pod
or, you know, one of these structures that would
take them back. Some reason... With weather conditions,
this one was no longer viable. So they have an
automated system that announces to them, they
need to go find this other one. They actually
know where it is, but the issue is that it's
farther than the amount of helium that they have
for the balloon structure to take to actually
reach that destination. So now she knows of...
this area that has a large helium deposit that
they can stock up there. It's, it's out of a
zone. It's in like one of the toxic zones. And
so, you know, it's like probably the most dangerous
part. Yeah. It's like this small dangerous part.
Okay. And, um, I might not have been paying the
most attention after this part. Yeah, that's
fair. I'm not surprised when we watch terrible
movies that people are checking out at some point.
Okay, so at some point, they're both there. And
then at some point, she realizes something or
she finds something. And she takes off her, you
know, she's like. oh, you know, maybe it's not
toxic to me anymore. Oh, wow. And she takes off
her oxygen mask. And her face disintegrates.
And she's all right. Whoa! So I don't think they
reference this directly. I think one time Anthony
Mackie had asked her about the things she was
injecting to her stomach. Gotcha. But apparently
she became... That was enough. She adapted to
the environment, which... really stretching it
there. Okay, whatever. Yeah, sure. Fuck it. Yeah,
so it's not over yet. So then she's like, so
she, you know, since now she can breathe on this
toxic earth, she's going to stay there. Anthony
Mackie goes, and this, like, honestly, I don't
even remember this part. I had to look it up
because, you know. You just forgot. You just
didn't talk to me. Like, I was kind of watching
it, but I just. You were playing, you were playing
your Switch at the same time or something. You
know, yeah, PlayStation 4, who knows. Oh, okay,
okay, gotcha. Fair. So. Fair. He's on I .O.,
you know, now they're pen -palling back and forth.
Oh, wow. It's like full circle. And apparently
she's with a kid now because, you know, they
were hooking up. Oh, God. And Anthony Mackling.
Yeah. Whoa. It never ends. If I have the pun,
I'm going to take it. Oh, yeah, you're driving
it. Wow, okay. So Anthony Mackling's a baby daddy.
Comparatively to Holmes and Watson, very different.
The point is that you could watch Holmes and
Watson as a bad movie type thing. To be clear,
that's the last bad movie you saw. Yeah, correct.
Which was like two podcasts ago. That was your
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you guys. Just kidding. And Group Me. Hold on.
You can't forget the second episode. Group Me
is the sponsor, apparently. I mean, if anyone
is going to send us free products, we will endorse
that. Aside from movies, because, you know, we're
going to, like, shit on them. Yeah, right, we
gotta remain impartial. Impartial. We'll give
good ratings to good movies, but we will shit
on it a little bit. Yeah, I mean, like... We're
not going to take, like... So, where do you land?
Hold on. We're not going to take, like, free
copies of IO for a good rating. Like, we don't
want to actually watch it. Alright, so rating.
Rating, guys. Come on. It's a one moon out of
five, you know? Is one the minimum, or is, like,
zero a point? Well, no, I did zero on... Holmes
and Watson. I did zero on Leo the Lion. But I
feel like Holmes and Watson... The only person
that has said he has to give it a one... No,
a half. A half, sorry. A half. So that has to
have any rating whatsoever is Mitchell. Because
he said, you made a movie, half. I feel like
you could watch Holmes and Watson like, you know...
drink a bunch, make fun of it, whatever. This
just went on. It's a drag. A little dialogue.
There's nothing to even pick out about and make
fun of, really. It just happens. Anthony Mackie's
like, you know, you have Anthony Mackie, not
necessarily bad acting in here, it's just he's
giving his lines, nothing happens. The girl's
awkward in this movie. That's fair. I'm already
slated against her because Death Note is just
bad. She plays this daughter of a researcher.
Maybe not much social exposure. Maybe she's playing
the role perfectly, for all I know. And that's
it. Okay, Mac, you did do great. He was just
saying his lines. He didn't even put on the falcon
suit like one time. You know, if he would have
broken out this falcon suit, I would have given
this a two out. Just the absurd, like, all of
a sudden, you know, his visor comes down and
he's like, you know, he's like, first of all,
she's like, no, I'm going to stay here. And he's
like, and like jets off. All right. I think I
would have enjoyed that part. Okay, sure. Any
last words? I love you. Yeah. Thanks for listening.
I appreciate you. Subscribe on iTunes, like our
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for designing our logo, by the way. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, no problem, guys. It was fun. The original
cut did not look great, so thank you for the
feedback. Did it look like a penis? It's up for
debate. It's up for debate. A very problematic...
I put a film reel at the end of the film tape.
We don't need the backstory. We're fine. I just
like to draw dicks. On that note, if someone
would like to sponsor us and give us free beer
or free anything, free beer would be great. I
will definitely say out loud what beer I'm drinking
if that was the case. Hey, counterweight, Crucial
Mass. Wow, they didn't even pay us, but okay.
We also got Amber Ale from Bells. So that is
pretty solid beers, I'd say. Yeah. If anybody
else, we'll give a call out. Sure. We'll whore
ourselves. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And on that note.
This is probably the only episode that we'll
mention it, but yeah. Probably not. Probably
not. No. Probably not. I'm a major whore. Wow.
Until next time on Game for a Movie, I'm Mike.
I'm Mitchell. I'm Andre. T -Dog. See ya.