In a world with terrible movies, four friends
compete against each other to watch the worst
of the worst. After seeing the movies, they come
together and review them for your pleasure. Who
saw the worst movie? What did they think of it?
Was it really that bad? Challenges are different
every week, but Andre, Mike, Mitchell, and T
-Dawg have to have their wits about them. No
one wants to see a bad movie, so to be forced
to is the worst thing imaginable. Can they stay
off the loser board and not have to see a bad
movie? Their time to lose this week. The answer
to these questions in war on Game for a Movie.
Hello and welcome to the sixth episode of Game
for a Movie. I'm your host, Mike Butank. I am
joined by... Mitchell. Andre. Claire. Wait, you're
not T -Dog? Where's T -Dog? You know, I told
you he looked different. He sounds different,
too. Yeah. Please welcome to the podcast my fiancée,
beautiful as she is, Claire, to the show. Yay!
Thanks for being excited about my intro for you.
We are once again playing a game that you can
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I know. I found this out the other day. Oh. See,
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It goes everywhere. Really? So, yeah, we're on
Spotify. You can subscribe. Wow, that technology
right there. Wow. That technology, though. Wow.
So, if you want to write a review, we would love
it. Include, even, if you would like to, where
T -Dog is. We're going to play round two of Where
is T -Dog? Mitchell, get us started. Where is
T -Dog this week? So, just to recap, the first
time we played this game, I thought that he was
in a constipated battle with... with the shits
and unfortunately i was wrong in that assumption
so yeah so i'm just gonna assume the other way
around he is now in a uh vomit battle oh the
other way yeah right right like he just can't
stop the flow you know like eat like something
bad that just didn't sit well with them we've
all been to the calf of where oh yes of our place
of work we understand that sometimes the fish
isn't the best no oh right We've all been there.
One for that side of Sam with the salad. I mean,
it is Lent, even though it isn't a Friday. It
is Lent. And I gave up meat, so I hold on to
fish as close as I can, but not the fish there.
It's really bad. However, yes, he is praying
at the altar of his toilet. projectile vomiting
into it wow that sounds rough yes yeah andre
do you have a guess where t -dog is yeah so uh
after uh i revealed that t -dog's real name was
kevin and i doxed him uh We don't bring that
up. We don't talk about it. I know. Well, it's
too late, apparently, because his identity got
stolen. He had to go off the grid. Oh, nice.
And he's living not just a double life, but now
a triple life. Okay. So he's under a new alias
that he hasn't even revealed to me yet. Nice.
Wait, time out. So he has two families already.
Is he going to get a third? He's going to have
to get a third to cover it up. Yeah. I think,
honestly, I think he gets off on it. I think
it's borderline sociopathy. I mean, you know,
whatever. Okay. That's just me. Gotcha. Spreading
yourself thin, man. Yeah. That's all I got to
say to Kevin. Replacement T -Dog slash Claire.
Where do you think the real T -Dog is? So I was
not here the first time we played Where's T -Dog,
so I have nothing to go on. Okay. I think he's
at home somewhere husking corn. Husking corn.
Husking corn. That might be slightly racist.
No. Corn is delicious. Husking it somewhere.
Husking corn is honest work. Someone needs the
husking. Someone needs husking. Is this a euphemism?
No way. You're thinking of husking something.
Oh, that's what we're talking about. Oh, okay.
All right. Wow. Good for T -Dot. Whatever gets
you off. Whatever husks your corn, dude. Whatever
husks your corn. Don't forget butter. My idea
is that he is going... town to town finding breweries
and distilleries for me to whore because I am
drinking Digawatts from Broadbrook Brewing Company.
This is a brew -whoring segue right now? It is
a brew -whoring segue. Wow. As well as we've
got Aviation Gin and some gin and tonics. Yes,
that's right. And we've got Beachbody Shakeology.
We've got the Fruit Punch and the citrus flavor.
Yeah. It's like Gatorade. Is there anything fun
in there? Or is that just... It tastes like Fruit
Punch. Oh, well. It's fantastic. It's fun. Okay,
yeah. You want to try it? It was just like an
alcohol segment, so I was just like, oh. I will
whore anybody and everybody. I mean, it would
taste good with vodka in it. Try it. Oh, yeah.
I feel that. I will say. Here's the ultimate
taste test. Oh, go for it. Yes, please. We need
the four of you. Let's see if it's good. So what's
the name of this thing? As we fully whore ourselves
out. It's the Beachbody Energize. You can put
the mic and some ASMR in there. Oh, wow. See,
it's not an intense flavor, but it rests easy
on the tongue. It's pink. It's pink colored.
And it's pink colored. It's great. Presentation,
perfect. 10 out of 10. Highly recommend. Give
me one. I'll give it a shot. Yeah. Give it a
shot. All right. We're having a taste test. Oh,
Jesus. You guys want to pass around drinks? Let
me wash it down with some aviation gin. Speaking
of which, Andre, I've never had a gin and tonic
by you. Can I trade you a gigawatts for a gin
and tonic? I would be insulted if you did. Oh,
okay. Or a Mitchell. That's fine, too. But here's
some gigawatts if you'd like to try it. Okay.
Will I travel back in time? Maybe. Oh, that is
a fantastic What year is it? Thank you. That
is a fantastic gin and tonic. Ryan Reynolds can
make a good gin and tonic. He's not a bad mixologist.
No, he's not. Thank you. Appreciate it. We have
a new apartment. You guys are going to have to
come. We're going to make some drinks at the
wet bar. There's our wet bar. We've already hit
Our heads, arms, elbows, at least twice today,
so. Okay. Yes, I have almost concussed myself.
That's great. Oh, that's fantastic. We're also
fairly certain we're going to find random things
in the cabinets. Random as in? I don't know.
We found a lot of, like, religious stuff thus
far. There's a lot of religious paraphernalia.
There's going to be some, like, nun in the closet
or something. Oh, I see. Wait, is this, like,
scary religious stuff? Yeah. Like a scary movie
thing? No, it's not, but it's kind of creepy.
Oh, okay. Yeah. You know, like, you're walking
down the basement stairs and all of a sudden
you see. crucifix with Jesus on it and you're
like, oh! Okay. Good. And our landlord actually
had the best response. There's a Virgin Mary
in the backyard. Like a little statue. And he
goes, that's not mine, but once you have a Virgin
Mary there, I'm not going to touch it. The house
is going to burn down if you throw it away. There's
some cursed energy on that. It's an Indian burial
ground, you know, like you don't want to. Oh,
great. Are pets buried there too? Yeah, probably.
We're going to Pet Sematary. We're not talking
about that movie. I might talk about that movie.
We'll see what happens. Do you want to see that?
I do want to see that. I love scary movies. I
know you don't want to. Pass. Yeah. Solid pass.
I was just going to say, I don't think anybody,
maybe Andre, I don't know. No bueno, no bueno.
I was going to say, not a whole lot of people
are with me on the scary movie front. I mean,
you saw Hereditary, obviously. Yeah, so I'm big
into what's considered highbrow horror, so it
has to get a super good review. I don't imagine
Pet Sematary is not going to get that. It's a
horror movie, like straight up horror, not like
art house horror is what I would call it. Right,
which is exactly what Hereditary is. Exactly.
And I'm assuming Midsommar as well. Yeah. Yes.
That actually looks interesting, Midsommar. I'm
very excited. Midsommar. We can explain it in
what we're excited for because I definitely am
excited. Fair enough. It's from one of his favorite
production companies, A24, right? Oh, I've heard
you talk about that before. Aren't you glad I
remember that? Yeah, that's a good note, dude.
Thank you. That was one of my favorite production
companies. You're welcome. All right, so let's
get into the movies we saw this week. We're going
to start with Mitchell. I lost, so we will go
around that way and then... We'll end with you.
End with the gem of a movie I saw. Your masterpiece.
So, Mitchell, what did you see? All right, I
saw The Hummingbird Project starring Jesse Eisenberg.
I like hummingbirds. Yeah, so hummingbirds. So
that's kind of what it's about. Just to briefly
go over the plot, it's about two stockbrokers,
or at least who work in a stock firm. They leave
New York, and their whole mission in leaving
this firm is to beat the system by creating a...
actual wire like a fiber that goes from kansas
city to new york that will help in their stock
trades and it will make them faster than any
other firm by 0 .1 second or 0 .1 milliseconds
i should say 0 .1 milliseconds that makes all
the difference they calculate that they can get
millions and millions more than their competitors
because of their speed anyway um sama hayek is
the one who is the head of the firm that they
left and her whole mission in this movie is to
stop jesse eisenberg and his cousin, who he also
recruited from the firm of making this wire.
So it's basically a heist movie meets the big
short. And unfortunately, it doesn't meet. the
standard of either of those things, in my opinion.
So, just to briefly go over the things that I
thought worked really well, because I want to
start on a positive. My favorite guy in this,
Alexander Skarsgård, from the wonderful Skarsgård
acting family. There's a lot of Skarsgårds. Exactly.
This is not the one who played it. Okay. He was
in True Blood. He was the guy in True Blood.
Which one was he? He's the really tall, handsome,
blonde -haired guy. I'm sorry. Wait, wait, wait.
Handsome? Yes. Sorry, Mike. Maybe even godlike,
but I don't know. Mike, you have a shot in this
one because he's actually fully bald in this.
Oh, less godlike. Yeah, exactly. But he's still
super tall, so you take that for what you will.
Wasn't he Tarzan? Yeah, he was Tarzan. Yes, he
was Tarzan as well. You don't see that ripped
physique in this one, but something about the
way he stands makes you think he's still working
out. Anyway. He's still got the weird eye. Yes.
So he's the supporting character to Jesse Eisenberg
in this movie, but he basically owns every scene
he's in, which he says is so much fun to watch.
This is a movie that lets their actors have fun
with it. It really leans into the heist part
where it's not only building up action and plot.
They also have fun in all the mess ups that they
go into and whatnot. So he's basically what you
would call a quant or quantitative. And his whole
thing was he was the guy designing the algorithm
that would make this wire even function. So that's
his role in this movie. He's funny. He's great.
A little neurotic. And at a certain point, he's
getting chased down by the FBI. And that's one
of my favorite scenes in the movie. It's also
featured in the trailer as well. Jesse Eisenberg,
though, as much as I go to bat for this guy,
There aren't a lot of things that I saw in this
movie that make me say, hey, this is one of the
better actors of his generation. Because, look,
man, social network, fantastic role for him,
born to play that role. I still feel since then,
and even his Lex Luthor, he's still playing a
certain version of Mark Zuckerberg. And for better
or for worse, either that's biased from me because
of how great he was in that. in the social network
or whatever, but he is a one -note actor. Sometimes
it's hard to separate the character from the
actor, even if the actor is born to play that
role. Right. You see it more often with TV actors
just because it's repeated so much in front of
you. It's like hours worth of screen time if
this guy has this one role, but really just two
hours in the social network and then suddenly
we're looking at nine years later and I still
can't separate one. Nine years. I'll even go
back. It almost... you can see some of that going
back to zombie land. Sure. Like after you see
social network. So when you watch in zombie land,
you're just like, okay, Jesse Eisenberg, great,
whatever. You see social network. You're like,
wait, Mark Zuckerberg was in zombie land. You
know what I mean? Exactly. Yeah. You can retroactively
do that. Yeah. Um, anyway, it, it, Maybe it's,
again, my bias, but his performance suffers for
it. I feel he's very one -note. Anytime he's
asked to do something emotional or over -the
-top, it comes off as over -the -top. You don't
buy the performance at all. Unfortunately, as
the lead actor, you need to sell it to the audience.
For me, I cannot go on this journey with him.
Salma Hayek, shouts to her. She is a gorgeous
actress. And she definitely plays that powerful
Wall Street woman type role, which you don't
get to see too often. So it's really cool that
that was written into the film. In terms of what
her character does, though, it's very much everyone
else is doing the work for me. I'm just barking
orders. And it doesn't make for a great villain.
Anyway, there are a lot of things that I had
issues with in this movie. More so than... things
that i enjoyed i thought the plot was um very
messy especially in the middle um i mean it goes
in all these different directions um you can't
really you can't really establish any kind of
flow or the director did not i should say um
so without giving anything away because again
super plot driven so anything i will say will
give away some things It was just a very passable
movie, which is almost more sinister than being
a bad movie. Right. Because at least a bad movie
I'll remember. You're just going to forget about
this in like a week or something. Yeah, this
is going to go away. This is going to go away
in like a week, if that. So The Hummingbird Project.
And as I was saying before this podcast, Hummingbird,
a single flap of one of their wings equals 0
.1 milliseconds. Got it. Okay. Anyway, so that's
the title of the film. I'm giving this one a
solid one and a half stars. Stars? One and a
half. Oh, excuse me. A flap of a hummingbird's
wing. There you go. There it is. I'm happy now.
Got it. All right. All right, so Andre, you're
going to follow up the one and a half hummingbird
wings? Man, I mean. Okay, so we all saw what
I would hope is a significantly better movie
than The Hummingbird Project, which is Us. Yeah?
Yep, what is that? That's, so there's this, okay,
you ever seen Cain Peele? No, Keegan -Michael
Key, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the guy
that he was with, right, like is Obama. Banana
Peele. Yes, yes, the guy who played Obama. Banana
Peele, I got it. Banana Peele, yes, yes, yes.
Banana Peele. Well, okay, yeah, so this is obviously
Jordan Peele's second. Peele and the Shrimp.
Got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're still doing this.
I don't know where he's going. I don't have any
more. Jordan Peele's second director, second
movie, basically. Get Out was kind of like a
breakout success a couple years ago. Did we all
see that here? I hope so. Great movie. Fantastic.
There's a lot of hype going into us. then, I
don't know, we really have no idea what, like,
Jordan Peele's, like, track rate is going to
look like, you know? That's a funny thing. Like,
going in, I thought this was a better idea than
Get Out. Sure. Obviously, we know now what, where
it stands, so. Yeah, yeah, right. So, this is
kind of a more, classical's not the right word,
but, like, a more traditional take on a horror
film, right, than Get Out was. It's not as messed
with your mind kind of thing. It was more so,
like, it was. I guess. There's a little more
of a slasher. Yes, definitely much more of a
slasher film. Off the bat, this is one of those
movies where I liked it more after I sat on it
a little bit. I was like, oh yeah, that was good.
And then I kind of let it stew for a little bit.
And I'm excited to go see it again, honestly.
Yeah, I feel like this movie begs to be rewatched.
There's a ton of little Easter eggs that I kind
of took to the Reddit threads after this, and
people kept commenting, like, oh, here's this
reference to that, that, and that. I'm like,
wow, there's so much stuff. Oh, I want to know.
Yeah, it's dope. You're going to go on Reddit
later. I totally am. So to me, they reminded
me, I'm not saying it's a similar level of quality,
but it reminded me of The Shining in that way,
where that's someone you can go back to, and
you just see all these little nods. And it's
just kind of like a, I don't know, it was a fascinating
movie to kind of look into. I mean, obviously,
the acting was superb. Oh, yeah. It was just
absolutely amazing in both of her roles. Winston
Duke's fantastic. Yeah. I love Winston Duke.
He's so funny. He's so hilarious. Yeah, and it
had, there was like, 90 % of the time, the comedy
was really well balanced with what was going
on. There was like one line that took me out
of it that was specifically, well, I don't want
to spoil it, but whatever. I know exactly what
line you're talking about. Yes. That's the one
part where I was like, okay, this is funny, but
now I'm out of it. So my favorite part was the
tension was just all the way ratcheted up all
the time. And that was the one part where I was
like, okay, now I'm back just watching a movie
again. You know, if that makes sense. Which I
will say in defense of that, Jordan Peele is
obviously a comedy writer. Yeah, totally. Just
as much as he is a screenwriter for horror movies.
But I thought that is a good way of at least
building up or setting up your scares for later
on. Yes. Instead of you being on edge this entire
time, which Hereditary was. Definitely got exhausting.
Yeah, I bet. For us, which is much more plot
heavy, that was a really good way of designing
how people feel and ebb and flow throughout the
movie. Definitely. Which I appreciated, though.
That one scene was... That one scene was like...
It was almost like a Zombieland. Yes, yes, yes.
I felt like I was watching a different movie
then. It was definitely... Yeah, all of a sudden
we're watching a horror comedy instead of a horror
movie. Yeah, I guess that moment when I went
to linger this too long, that felt out of character.
How about that? Where I was like, I'm invested
in these characters and that felt out of character.
Yeah, that's fair. That's just me. I guess I
didn't feel that way when I was watching it,
but now that we're talking about it, I'm like,
yeah. Yeah. I see it now. Yeah. It's a very strange
part. Yeah. But. All right. So the rest of the
movie, like, not. obviously what happened or
anything like that sure thoughts and that kind
of stuff yeah so like again atmosphere uh like
acting and as well as cinematography all like
check those boxes i really enjoyed it i would
say the actual like the plot like quote -unquote
revelations at the end yeah i kind of felt that
they were too concrete i felt they should have
left things a little bit more vague because like
the way because like the more it's one of those
things where the more you think about the narrative
and how things were set up at the end the more
plot holes there are and it's just like yeah
and it's like and it's like you know On one hand,
it's like, I don't want to be that guy and take
the fun of it. I'm like, oh, well, how did this
whoa -whoa -whoa happen? I'd like to accept the
movie on its terms, but if they just didn't define
those terms, you know, I wouldn't have had a
problem, where I feel like a lot of those movies
of that ilk kind of just leave it kind of vague,
and you're supposed to put those pieces together.
I would have rather the top is still spinning
Inception -style. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of
like, it would be like if Inception, they went
down into the nitty -gritty details and tried
to over -explain everything, you know, a little
bit. Yeah, I don't know. Honestly, though, the
best thing I can say about it is that it felt
like a really good episode of Twilight Zone.
Like a really good, tense episode of Twilight
Zone. And I'm down. I'm here for that. Are you
going to watch Twilight Zone? Yeah, dude, I already
watched it. Yeah, I watched it. So you watched
the first episode, obviously. I did, yeah. Are
you going out of your way to get CBS All Access
to watch it? I'm going to split it with my Trekkie
friend who already has it. There you go. Nice.
If I didn't have him, I would probably buy it.
Yeah, totally. Nice. I'm excited to hear that.
a fan of the original twilight zone so yeah um
very good sorry yeah uh tangent but no no worries
yeah uh so yeah anybody else have any thoughts
i'll kick it off i thought as much as get out
was the superior movie sure this is obviously
a great movie so i don't want to like you know
not hit it down a peg or whatever but i really
think jordan peele stepped his game up as a director
specifically in direction in terms of building
tension, in terms of using lighting, and setting
up shots, especially in the dark, which he didn't
do too much of in Get Out, because a lot of it
was set during the day and all that. But specifically
how Lupita was shot. her two characters and a
huge difference in terms of how a shot was composed
with who we are following most of the time and
then the antagonist, I want to say. So it's really
hard to find these terms in this movie. But I
thought it was really well done. And he really
has a way of having striking visuals. And it
could be the marketing or whatever, but the red
jumpsuits, I think, are a perfect villainous
kind of outfit for these characters to wear.
That stood out to me because it's just enough
change where you know who's the villain and that
kind of stuff. You immediately know who to be
afraid of, basically. Exactly. But at the same
time, it was enough of a pop -out where I was
like, oh, this is great. Exactly what I want
my villain to look like kind of thing. Absolutely.
Yeah, and one more thing Just first stuff. I
absolutely love the cinematography Leading into
how things were framed and shot. This is a doppelganger
movie So it's all about the illusion of what
you think is the person you're following versus
the thing that is following that person blah
blah blah They have a lot of fun with mirrors
obviously in the opening scene, which is not
a spoiler at all That's where the movie opens.
It's kind of in a mirror funhouse but there's
even little subtle nods to it throughout the
movie. One in particular, it's not a scary moment
at all. It's when Winston Duke is in the bathroom,
and he comes out. You're watching the scene,
and as he comes out, you... I realized, oh, he
was in a mirror the entire time. Like this, the
visual that you saw Winston do. I think that's
pretty telling. Like that is in a subtle way
kind of establishing the point of view of the
movie. Well, and then like the, now that you
point that out, I'm seeing this part, the part
where Elizabeth Moss is doppelganger. Yes. Spoiler.
Yeah, yeah. But, yeah. It's fine. Sorry. But
yeah, we all would say every episode, spoiler
alert. Sorry. We're going to spoil these movies.
See these movies. But on the scale of spoilers,
this is not a spoiler. Like in the trailer, you
knew she was in trouble. So, you know, it's not
like it's hiding something. Elizabeth Moss' doppelganger,
when all of a sudden the little girl is like
behind her and stuff, you see that she sees in
the little pocket compact mirror, oh, this girl
is coming to attack me. like that kind of stuff.
On that note, the action choreography was actually
surprisingly good for a lecture film. Oh, especially
that last scene. Oh my gosh, yes. Anyway, what
were your thoughts on the movie? I thought it
was good. I don't like scary movies. I don't
like loud noises, so Mike can attest to this.
I was sitting there with my fingers in my ears
because I'm one of those people where I can't.
I don't want to hear it, but I'll watch it. It's
not the pop -up for you, it's the loudness. It
was just loud. It wasn't that scary though, right?
No, there was one scene where I kind of jumped,
but I kind of knew it was coming too. It was
just also very loud. When we saw the movie, the
movie felt another level up, kind of. I agree.
Yeah, it was very loud in that theater. But I
mean, I thought it was good, but towards... I
don't know. I don't know when I kind of figured
out what was going on and kind of what the ending
would be. Right. But once I figured that out,
it became not a letdown because it definitely
wasn't a letdown, but I was just like, oh, I
kind of fell out of it a little bit. So I was
like, I kind of see where this is going. I mean.
I don't know. I thought it would be a little
more inception -y like we were talking about.
There would be a lot more... The twist was what
you thought it was. Exactly. The twist was the
friends we made along the way. That's right.
Although I have been going back in the past few
days thinking about all... I think it's because
they made it so concrete. I have been thinking
about what does this mean? What does this happen?
I don't know. I'm not as intelligent when I talk
about movies as you guys are. You're fine. But
talking about that, though, in terms of what
the movie meant, obviously the twist is one thing.
With Jordan Peele, we know there's a hidden meaning,
or at least a layered meaning in this. I want
to say that one of the biggest flexes you could
have as a director in this case is to... lay
out the thesis of your movie like within the
first half hour and it happens in the first scene
where the doppelgangers meet up with Lupita Nyong
'o's family and she asks uh asks the doppelgangers
who are you and she says we're Americans it's
like okay right yeah it's like okay yeah at that
moment I was just like I almost rolled my eyes
but as the movie went on I'm like okay this is
a lot more layered than I thought yeah that was
actually a good spoon feeding moment and then
yeah you kind of put things together and I didn't
really assign meaning into the twist until days
after watching the movie, but the twist holds
a little bit more credence with that in mind.
Yes, definitely. My thing about the twist is,
I agree, once you figure it out, it's kind of
like... oh this is where we're going kind of
thing because i felt like i figured it out pretty
early it wasn't anything other than i just know
tropes and stuff like that and that kind of thing
yeah and so it wasn't like i was jumping ahead
going i want to figure out the twist before everybody
else it was more so okay is it going this way
right and then it went that way and i was kind
of like which i compared to get out and one of
the most powerful movies of get out spoiler alert
Spoilers for Get Out. If you haven't seen Get
Out, because I know we're going to mark these
three movies that we saw as spoiler alert -y,
but for Get Out, the scene that got me the most,
that I loved, was at the very end. Oh, yeah.
He's on top of the girl, like, destroying her,
and all of a sudden a cop car pulls up. Right,
and then your stomach just drops. And you're
just like, you're fucking kidding me. Like, he's
still going to get... Yeah. Busted by this cop.
Yeah. And then little Ray steps out and you're
like, Oh, thank the Lord. It's his buddy. Like
that kind of thing. Well, they did a really good
job of putting you in that shoes and you're in
that, in that kind of person's shoes where like,
where the cops are not a good, like they're not,
they're not a benevolent force. Exactly. They're
not the better of two options. If you're stuck
in a situation, you know, like all of a sudden
they see this black guy beating this white girl.
They might shoot you. Yeah, right. And that was
the moment for me that I loved Get Out. And I
was just like, yes. I didn't have that same moment.
Nope. And the movie was fine. It was good. I
would watch more Jordan Peele. I would watch
more Us 2. It's not anything about that movie.
It was just it didn't have that moment for me.
And those moments are so hard to capture. Oh,
I guarantee it. You could be the greatest director
of all time. Yeah. It's magic. Yeah. When you
say movie magic, that's what I think of. But
that's what... put it so much lower for me than
Get Out. Yeah, I agree. But let's jump to ratings
on that. So you brought up the movie. You start
us off. Okay, like I said, this has been growing
on me a little bit, and I want to watch it. I
feel like this is going to be more rewatchable
than Get Out. While I liked Get Out on my first
viewing more. That's fair. This is going to be
a grower. With that note, I'm going to give it
a four. Oh, I had my thing. I didn't want...
What's the four... Yeah, scissors, I guess, but
I was trying to... It's too easy, but whatever.
Four red jumpsuits out of five. Okay. Yay. Are
they stuck together? Yeah, they're holding hands.
Yeah, they're holding hands. That's good. I was
going to give it Hands Across America, but I
decided on a different one that I'm more happy
with, so we're going to jump ahead. I don't think
anybody's picked. Okay. Which one of you won?
It doesn't matter. I flash them the scissors.
So that's where my mind went. Oh, what, the rating?
Yeah. Because we all saw it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's tough. I mean, I'm between three and three
and a half. Okay. I'm probably going to go three.
Okay. Yeah. Three what? Scissors? Three pairs
of scissors that you stabbed Elizabeth Moss with.
Specifically Elizabeth Moss. Specifically. Yeah,
by the way. Oh, is she? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know
that. I didn't know that. I love Mad Men. Me
too. This is why she's probably great in Handmaid's
Tale. Handmaid's Tale, yeah, because it's cult
-y. I still haven't seen the second season. The
first season was great. So good. Okay. So what's
your rating in Handmaid's Tale over there? I
would say three and a quarter leather gloves.
Ooh, nice. Fingerless leather gloves. Yeah, fingerless.
I am going 3 .5 vocal cords. Oh. All right. Yeah.
Yeah. Because the scary voices and, like, that
half of the people don't talk. Exactly. Well,
she's the one who can technically talk. Right.
Exactly. So, yeah. Yeah, dude. So, all right.
Cool. I guess it jumps to me, then. It jumps
to you. It jumps to you. Oh, my gosh. What did
you see, Mike? Get ready, everybody. Is it as
good as us? No. Not even close. No, no, no, no.
I saw a... So, originally, I went on an adventure
to try to find a movie that I thought would be
awful that you guys would approve. Because I
go through you guys and try to get you to approve.
Oh, yeah. That's a mistake. Oh, it's a terrible
decision because I thought I found the winner,
and then you guys turned it down because you
thought it would be too good. It looks so funny.
What was the name of that movie? That is Wolf
Cop. Oh, my God. No, it looks too good. And also,
with a name like Wolf Cop, I'm already sold on
it. Did you watch the trailer? I did. looks bad,
even though it's like a goofy concept. It's a
goofy concept that knows it's a goofy concept.
Yeah, it's like Kung Fury, dude. Like, you can't...
Alright, alright. Kung Fury is a classic, alright?
Well, we'll watch Wolf Cop eventually and have
thoughts on it. I would be so down. I would be
so down. Or the sequel, which is another Wolf
Cop. Okay, come on. Wolf Cop is what they're
doing. It knows exactly what it is. But that's
why I thought it was bad, because it knows exactly
what it is. Exactly. But, alright, so I found
another one. that I put on, which was Yoga Hosers.
Your voice just went totally down as you started
talking. Wolf Cop seems so much better. I thought
I could convince him with a name like Wolf Cop
that I could watch it. I don't know. The name
Wolf Cop sounds pretty awesome. Wolf Cop! Yeah!
Well, I watched Yoga Hosers. Directed by? Directed
by Kevin Smith. Yay! Featuring Harley Quinn Smith.
Yes, his daughter. Lily Rose Depp. Yes, the daughter
of Johnny Depp. What? It also had Johnny Depp
in complete makeup, costume, so you couldn't
really tell it was Johnny Depp. I'm sure there
was a very diligent and rigorous casting process
for this movie. They all got their own talent.
Oh my god, it was such a... Johnny Depp was still
in hiding for the whole Amber Heard thing. Oh.
That's the only way he can accept roles now.
Right. Yes. Extreme makeup where you're like,
is that Johnny Depp? It was kind of very like
21 Jump Street, but not in the fact that 21 Jump
Street had the reveal like, oh, it was Johnny
Depp the whole time. Yeah. Trying to hide him
kind of thing until the end. No, this was just
hiding him. Okay. And then we've got Adam Brody.
Yeah. Yeah. Harley Morenstein. Okay. If you guys
remember him from Epic Meal Time. Oh, that's
right. You did say that he was in the Epic Mealtime
guy? Yeah. What the hell? Yeah. Oh, God. He is
literally a character called Toilet Paper Man.
Toilet Paper Man. Oh, so is it a cameo then?
He gets killed in the first five minutes. Oh,
okay. So then he's just friends with... He probably
liked Epic Mealtime. He was like, hey, be in
my movie, dude. He grabs three things of toilet
paper and then dies by one of the bad guys. So
he's Toilet Paper Man because he didn't have
a name. Like, that's how you describe him. Right,
right, right. So he's in there literally just
for you to say, is that the guy from Epic Mealtime?
Right, exactly. And then that's it? Okay, got
it. Yeah, there's Justin Long. Yeah, right. Which,
by the way, brings up the fact that this is a
spiritual sequel to Tusk. Where he turns into
a fucking walrus, right? So was he a walrus in
this one? No, the idea is... I'm great with that.
That would be so sick, honestly. No, he's the
yoga instructor for them. His name is Yogi Bear.
Wow. Original. That's his actual name? That's
his God -given name? No, it's not his God -given
name. It's his yoga name. It takes place in Canada,
and there's a part even where he gets into a
battle with WB about copyright infringement.
At least they acknowledge it. And then he decides
to change his name to Boo -Boo Bear. Oh. Like,
it's that kind of, like, schlock. Yeah. That
is probably one of the funniest jokes of the
whole movie. Okay. Oh, God. That's, yeah, that's
the rabbit hole we're going down. How long is
this movie? Hour and a half, at least. Oh, 90
minutes, we'll not get back. At least an hour
and a half. I don't remember exactly how long,
but I know it was at least an hour and a half.
It was under two. I will give it that. All right,
so Mr. Long is a yoga instructor. Oh, no, it
was an hour and 28 minutes. Oh, okay, good. He
said two minutes. There's also Tony Hale. Tony
Hale's in this movie. Tony Hale. Tony Hale's
there, yeah. He's in Arrested Development. Oh,
yes. Buster Boone. Yeah, Buster Boone. Oh, oh,
okay. And Natasha Lyonne. Mm -hmm. Okay. She's
the one in Russian Doll, if you've watched that
now. Not yet, but her great things. Yeah, it's
fantastic, actually. I've watched a few episodes.
I haven't gotten all the way through it, but
so far, pretty good. I like those guys. So you
got some quality actors. Yeah. So what happened?
So in this movie, the two girls have saved the
walrus man. That is the start of it. Oh, okay.
So that's how it's in the same universe as Tusk.
They have saved the walrus man, so they're a
big deal kind of thing. They run this shop, which
is called the A to Zed. A is definitely a Canadian
pun, like A. Ah. Okay. Do Canadians say Zed?
Zed instead of Z. Yeah, right, right, right.
Like, is that a Canadian thing as well? I guess
so, yeah. Okay. I don't know. I have no clue.
But A does remind me of my favorite Canadian
joke, that I have to. I have to. Oh, no. Oh,
God. You know how they learned how to spell Canada?
They pulled letters out of a hat. They pulled
the letters out of a Scrabble bag and went, C
-A -N -A. See, I know all your fucking dad jokes.
Me too. That's my favorite joke of all time.
It's so bad, but it's just everybody's dad jokes.
If this podcast had video, you would see Mitch's
elated face right now. Or everybody's elated
face when Mike brought up. Claire's heard it
many times. Andre's heard it at least once, it
seems like. And Mitchell looks like he wants
to hang himself. Yeah, okay. But A to Z. At this
A to Z, there are these things that are sausages
that are Nazis. Wait, the sausages are Nazis?
Yes. Are they made of Nazi meat? No, they are
Nazis that run... They are just trying to set
up the Third Reich. They're like a sausage party.
The Fourth Reich now. Fourth Reich, my bad. Oh,
Haley Joel Osment is also in this movie, too.
Oh, nice, okay. Is he in Sausages? No, he is
the leader of the Nazi Party back in the 40s.
Is this Fat Haley Joel Osment? This is Fat Haley
Joel Osment. Okay, got it. Or not 40s, obviously,
after that. Basically, they've established this
alternate Canadian history where he runs the
Nazi Party in Canada. Oh. Okay, how do these
sausages, how are they alive? I'll explain. I'll
explain. Don't worry. Is it stop motion? Do they
have legs? No, they are totally CGI. Oh, okay.
They are stuffed with sauerkraut. Okay. I'm having
such a hard time visualizing it. And by the way,
all of these effects are done by Kevin Smith
himself, and it's apparent. Oh, no. Yeah. It's,
like, bad. It's, like, great. Like, is it, like,
so bad it's good? No. Okay. No, no, no. This
is bad, bad. Yeah. I need a visual. So, how the,
uh, they are called Bratsies. Okay. Oh, my God.
You know what? I don't hate that. Then, actually,
I was like, all right, I'm on board. Bratsies?
But I feel like this is the pitch meeting where
he goes, all right, I've got an idea for a movie.
Bratsies. And, like, that's where it ended. Yeah,
right. Okay. So these Bratsies climb into people.
Did you find it? Is this it? Yep, that's it.
Let me see. Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, that's way
more frightening than I could have imagined.
I have no words. Okay, never mind. Yeah, no.
All right. And how they kill people is they jump
into people's assholes and kill them from the
inside. And then jump through their mouth. Hold
on. Yeah. Wait, isn't Kevin Smith, that's his
name, right? Isn't he like an established person?
So how is this a thing? So we will talk about
Kevin Smith and how we feel about him. This is
like something that I would make, but I would
make something better. This is terrible. This
entire budget looks like it's $10 ,000. For a
movie, which is like, yeah, it's bad. Because
most of it feels like a bottle episode because
it takes place at the shop almost the entire
movie. It almost seems like he was going for
an Attack of the Killer Tomatoes vibe is what
you're telling me right now. Which, again, down
for, you know? So what I feel about Kevin Smith,
going back to your point, is that he is this
Hollywood director that hates Hollywood and so
he wants to appear like he's on the outside.
Well, clearly he is with this movie. Yeah, right.
Do we want to know the budget? Yeah, sure. $5
million, okay? Which is obviously very low, but
$5 million. He still wastes a lot of people's
money. How many people's money? Box office, $38
,784. Whoa. Literally everybody's. That is $38
,000 for a movie that costs $5 million. Let me
just remind you, in order, Haley Joel Osment.
Natasha Lyonne. Yes. Justin Long. Johnny Depp.
Tony Hale maybe. Rough. Tony Hale no I meant
like Tony Hale then Johnny Depp. That's what
I meant. How does this movie even happen? Does
it just I don't know. He wanted to waste a lot
of people's money. Yeah I guess. Oh we haven't
gotten to the best part yet. Sure sure. So these
girls are like addicted to their phones and that's
what it feels like the message of this movie
is is like don't go on your phones all the time
like how do you have the bad guys are nazi brats
and their message that they're trying to portray
is don't maybe if you put down your phone you
would know oh my bad you're right so the main
nazi who is this scientist uh -huh of course
he So he was creating new Nazi soldiers from
his own blood and sausages. Are these sausages?
Nazis? Bratsies? They're new Bratsies? Bratsies.
So he makes them, he puts them in this incubator,
and they are supposed to grow into actual Nazi
soldiers. Wait, like humanoid? Humanoid from
bratwurst and his blood. Okay. And there was
a power surge because it's all behind the A to
Z. his power surge because of their band the
yoga hoses band yep yep and uh that stops the
process as well as unfreezes him because he froze
himself until they grew into nazi oh okay yeah
that plays out that plays out and so he's just
like i can't Do this, but they're still alive
and they're sausages, so I guess bratsies. Yay!
Okay. And so they start killing people. Right.
Exactly. But these yoga hosers and hidden Johnny
Depp find this hidden secret entrance to the
Nazi lair. The bratsy lair. The bratsy lair.
As it were. As it were. Is there a scene? Where
there are a bunch of Bratsies linked together
human -seneca style in a link of sausages. No,
no, no. Missed opportunity. They are in like
an egg carton almost when they're in the incubator.
So it's like one sausage per carton thing. Okay.
So like if you cut them open, sauerkraut just
spills out? Yeah. That's what it is? Exactly.
100%. That's how biology works, dude. You got
it. Yeah. Who knew sauerkraut could be so hateful?
I skipped a lot of this movie because I was trying
to make it go faster. Wow. Yeah. No, unfortunately,
I missed a major plot point. You're dragging
on, though. You did. I missed a major plot point.
So they invite these two boys because they are
high school girls to this party. Because they're
high school girls. Yeah. Great. And these two
boys are Satan worshippers. Oh. Okay. Did they
know that ahead of time? No, they did not. Good.
The Bratsies killed these two boys at the A2Z.
Yeah, fuck Satanism. Yeah. And the girls killed
the Bratsies that they see at the A2Z that killed
these two guys. And they end up going to jail
because of it. Because they think that they killed
the two boys. Oh, right, right, right. Johnny
Depp breaks them out of jail. Doesn't get them
their phones back. Okay? This is a part of it.
This is... Okay, got it. Yeah. So... They find
the Nazi lair that's behind the A to Z, which
is like Hidden Passageway. And there's this Nazi
that like captures them, starts dialoguing. But
he doesn't dialogue in a German accent. He dialogues
in impersonations of famous actors. Like he starts
with like Al Pacino. Oh, no. And then he goes
to Sylvester Stallone. Is this because the accents
are so bad that it seems like it's flowing in
and out of different celebrities? No, he tells
them. He's like, I think you'd understand it
better if I was Al Pacino. I think you'd understand.
They're really forcing the humor into this thing.
And Johnny Depp's sitting there like, yeah, it's
good, it's good. And the two girls are like,
who is this supposed to be? Oh, that's the joke?
Yeah. That's the joke? That's the joke. That
they don't know who it is because, oh, we don't
know. You guys are so old. Right, exactly. That's
not PewDiePie. We don't know who that is. Right,
exactly. Yeah. And so... So basically... Getting
to the point, the reason he's letting them live
is because they're very popular on social media.
And so he's like, I want you to take my picture
in front of my goalie Gollum, this art project
I've made, which is like made of human skin,
but it's like a Gollum thing that looks like
a goalie because he's Canadian. Oh. Yeah, exactly.
That face is exactly this movie. I can't watch
this movie. Yeah. And so... They don't have their
phones because they were in jail. And they're
like, oh, no, we don't have our phones. We can't
make you famous because that's all he wants is
to be famous. And featured on this magazine thing.
A magazine? Wow. I don't know. That's the pinnacle
of fame right there, being on a magazine. They
want their daughters to have a movie role. It
feels very much like they just wanted their daughters
to be in a movie. Yeah, yikes. So they stopped
the goalie golem and saved the day and blah,
blah, blah. The Brats is vanquished? bratsies
are vanquished they kill all the bratsies basically
they learn that they just need to hit the goalie
golem in the face and like bratsy falls off and
then they need to stop on it and all of a sudden
sauerkraut you know like that and bad bad sauerkraut
that's digitally edited well i mean we saw what
they look like just Well, the worst part is,
like, what they say is they're like, wunderbar,
like, all the time. It's not even, like, they're
saying, like, real German words. When you have
the, when your antagonists are named Bratsies,
that's really the only thing they can say, right?
They say German words, but it sounds like fake
German words. It's like, wunderbar! Yeah, like
an American shitty attempt at a German accent.
Yeah, exactly. Or a Canadian, even. Oh, maybe
so. Either way, not good. Yeah, but they do it
with, like, yoga moves, so it's like, mountain!
and that's where the yoga comes in. So they defeat
the Bratsies with yoga poses? Yes. I'm thinking
like Wii Fit Trainer and Super Smash Bros. Oh,
yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, you're selling me on
this movie now, actually. No, no, no, no. I'm
not selling you this on this movie. Poor Mitchell.
This looks like he's dying. Okay, so with these
bad movie reviews, I typically have a great time
poking fun at T -Dog, who typically has to watch
these. Yes. And I really have a ball. It's my
favorite part of the pod. What you described
made me so sad. That I had to watch this movie?
No, that this is a thing. That this is a movie.
And I am sad for you. Yeah. But I'm more sad
for the fact that in the history of humanity,
of all the bad things that we've done as a race,
this is definitely on the short list. Yeah. Yeah.
I feel really sad that in my lifetime this was
made. What year did this come out? 2016. 2016.
And it's bad. The CGI looks like it could have
been in a 1980s movie. I mean, yeah. If they
just nailed the CGI down, I'm sure it would have
been great. No, but I'm just saying that's how
bad he is at editing, too, while we're on the
subject. He edited the movie as well? Yeah. Alfonso
Cuaron, he's not. Okay. Yeah, so the guy who
owns the store is Tony Hale, and he's also one
of the... Oh, I completely forgot. The two girls
have the same name. The two... What? The two
girls have the same name. They didn't even come
up with a real name for these people. They just
said you have the same name. Okay, well... What
do you mean you have the same name? Like, they
both have... Stand by. I need to figure out what
the name is. Yeah, they both name, like, Jane
or something? It's Colleen C and Colleen M. Oh,
wow. Okay, great. Yeah. And, uh, yeah. Alright.
Like, the originality of this movie... Oh, it's
bad. I mean, hey, I... I feel like you gotta
be pretty high to come up with... Nazis that
are also bratwursts. Bratsies. Bratsies. Like,
the best ideas come from puns. We all know this.
Oh, and Kevin Conroy's in this movie. The guy
who voices Batman? Oh, no! What? That makes me
the most sad. He is Canadian Batman. What? It
served no purpose. Wait, wait, hold on. You put
two spaces. Is he Batman? Canadian Bat. Yeah.
Man. So, like, he's like a man that is... Canadian
Bat, comma, man. Okay. He's Canadian Bat, man.
Does he do his Batman voice? No, he's not a part
of this movie. I don't understand. He's there
for a second. Oh, okay. And for whatever reason,
they've decided to call him Canadian Batman.
Okay, well, all right. So cool. This movie has
made me very sad. Yeah, right. So, okay, I guess.
How many? Yeah, give it your rating. So the only
reason I am giving it this, and it is a higher
rating than Leo the Lion, which got, remember,
a zero. Solid zero. Solid zero. It gets a .5
out of five. Okay. 0 .5 sauerkraut out of 5.
The Mitchell Zero, right? Oh, the Mitchell Zero.
Yeah, the Mitchell Zero, yes. The only reason
I give it that is because it did have a Stan
Lee cameo. Oh, okay. So they call the police
about these bratsies that are in the store and
everything like that. And Stan Lee answers the
phone and he's like, Nazis, eh? that Hitler was
a bad egg, you know, like kind of old man -y,
like, you know, delusional kind of thing. You
know, it was fun, and like, it was a good joke.
Okay, that's worth half a star. Yeah. That's
worth half of sauerkraut. It's cheating, but
that plays. You know what, yeah. Otherwise, it
would go back on the same level as Leo the Lion.
So on that note, you would say that this is worse
than Leo, or better than Leo the Lion. Or would
you not? I feel like we should have a power rankings
of all the bad movies that we've specifically
seen. So you've seen Leo the Lion and Yoga Hosers.
Those are your two bad movies. Just because there
was a good joke here or there, I guess Yoga Hosers
gets the nod above it. There was a joke or two
that I kind of was like... And it also wasn't
actively attacking your lifestyle as a non -vegetarian.
Exactly. It wasn't attacking me as a carnivore.
Leo the Lion is this bad animation, bad lion,
bad message. It's so bad. It's so rough. Okay,
gotcha. All right, that's good to know. All right.
So now we jump to this part. What are the things
that get you excited or dreading? One way or
the other. There's lots of things that get me
excited, Mike. Okay. But one in particular right
now. Does not come out until July. The official
release date was actually announced today, which
is why I'm bringing it up. Oh, nice. Midsommar.
Yeah. Tell me about that. Looks neato. Yeah,
neato. Neato. That's what it looks like. Two
thumbs up. Neato. So if you're about to see a
horror film, whether that be Pet Sematary or
Us, the trailer for Midsommar is probably going
to be included before the film starts. I will
probably see Pet Sematary. Yes. So A24 is available.
production company that i've listed on this podcast
is one of my favorites what they do is a odd
mixture of coming of age films like ladybird
or horror movies like hereditary it's either
that or the other and uh this one is definitely
on the hereditary side it's going to be the same
director and midsummer is about some kind of
summer solstice type of looking festival it quote
unquote happens once every 90 years and i believe
it's in sweden or switzerland and um basically
you go out and uh you you follow this blonde
girl who basically sees some cultist shit going
on this is all done in broad daylight and then
pew what's that florence pew is that the actress
p -u -g -h yes florence she plays danny the main
character gotcha so that is her and what you
witnessed as the trailer keeps going on the trailer
is really well made i think uh with the pacing
and this weird kind of sound that goes on throughout
um it gets more and more horrifying you see blood
you see people jumping off cliffs it was swedish
by the way it was swedish and it ends on our
main character peering through a crack in a door
and just hearing these moans, screams. I don't
know what to describe it. It's very spine -chill.
Full -body chills already. It's creepy. The trailer
is really well done. I'm going to want to watch
the trailer, but I'm probably never going to
see it. That's what haunts me. It's not just
a generic horror trailer. That sound is so...
It's burning my brain right now. It's so indie
horror, but at the same time in the best way
possible. You can tell how it's done, how it's
shot. This is definitely, I think the director's
name is Ari Aster. Yep. So, how he did Hereditary,
mostly in the dark. Oddly enough, in the trailer,
they also had a repeating sound. It was more
of a kind of thing. Anyway, that became... I
don't like noises. Yeah. So, but this film, Midsommar...
um at least the trailer all in broad daylight
in like over exposed broad daylight and it terrified
me so i'm really interested to see if he could
hold that for a two -hour movie yeah um and if
you're actually gonna watch the trailer on youtube
um typically you'll see if it's like a wide aspect
ratio kind of thing you'll have black bars on
top and bottom This is in white. It's like an
off -white kind of thing. So we're only doubling
down on the brightness. And he's still in the
sphere. So it's coming out in July, so I know
it's a while. But mid -summer, and summer is
spelled S -O -M -M -A -R. So it's in the Swedish
way. Very excited for that. That's Ari Aster's
follow -up to Hereditary. That's coming out in
July. So the IMDb has three plots. I'm intrigued
by it. I knew kind of what it was, but I just
wanted to see the plots. The two are very well
done, kind of what you were explaining. I just
want to read this first one. Yes, please. You
know there's like a Twitter thing, like explain
a movie badly? Yeah, okay. This is it. A young
woman reluctantly joins her boyfriend on a summer
trip where things quickly go awry. Hey! You have
no clue what that means. Like, it could be a
romantic comedy. Yeah, it sounds like a romantic
comedy. Right? All right, Andre? So I'm cheating
a little bit, but it's just on my brain because
the trailer just dropped this morning. This is
for, I'm excited for Joker, the Joaquin Phoenix.
Yeah. He looks good in it. Yeah. It looked, I
was, I was, I came into that trailer pretty skeptical
and I was like, you know, I'll watch this. And
I came by, I came out of it like, you know. Pretty
sold on it, honestly. So I think it comes out
in October, right? Yes. It's a fall movie. And
so this is under DC's Elseworlds. Is that what
they're calling it, right? So it's not part of
the DCEU. Like, Ben Affleck's not going to show
up in this movie. Sorry, I'm so mad about DCEU
versus DC Elseworlds. Yeah, so with this established,
the Jared Leto that we saw in the DCEU, this
is not the same Joker in any kind of way. Nope.
It doesn't seem that way anyway from the trailer.
So I'm going to call out my buddy here. My buddy
Jason put it exactly right, I think. Jared Leto's
Joker seems like driven crazy Jason Todd takes
up the Joker versus Joaquin Phoenix. Yeah, and
I like that theory because it makes it better,
but how shitty that Joker was. Right, exactly.
And still, we're not... complimenting Jared Leto.
No. He didn't do well as the Joker. He did not.
He took a swing. He took a swing. He took a swing.
He took an idea. So my only critique for this
trailer is that he didn't have the tattooed damage
on his forehead, so I wasn't really sure where
his character motivations were. Oh, he was from
the 90s. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. Anyways, but
yeah, I mean, you know, the, like, Joaquin Phoenix,
honestly, like, obviously, great actor. Yeah.
I still, like, I was having troubles, like, even
with, like, the teaser photos they showed, I
was still having trouble. seeing him as the joker
and now it's more like now that i've seen the
trailer i'm more excited about it less as like
a comic book film but more of just like a weird
character study you know okay um yeah it's almost
almost to the point where like i'm not even really
like okay sure it's set in gotham and bruce wayne
as a kid's probably going to show up for a little
bit whatever like i'm more interested in the
actual like character um journey that Joker goes
on. I don't even know his real name, but whatever.
So, yeah. It feels like a big risk because this
is easily the lowest budget superhero film we've
seen in a while, right? And it feels different.
But I'm okay with that. Is that true? Did they
say what the budget was? I guess that's... Yeah,
you're right. I don't know if I have an exact...
dollar value on it but i'm pretty sure they've
said it's been it's like significantly low i
mean obviously like there's not going to be a
huge amount of special effects i'm okay with
that though because it feels a little more psychological
and like yeah that's that's okay for a super
villain movie Sure. Yeah, definitely. I'm here
for it. It looks to be more grounded, even more
so than Nolan's Batman trilogy. Right. Right.
Obviously, just based off this like minute. Oh,
yeah. Yeah, of course. And it could, you know,
could flop or whatever. But yeah, I'm I came
into it skeptical, came out sold. So, yeah, I'm
pumped for that. I'm still Phillips is directing,
by the way. I'm that's the only reason I'm hesitant.
Like the trailer looked fine. guy who directed
hangover three like right here's the thing he
also directed the first hangover he also did
he also directed uh i loved old school he directed
due date which was fine due date was fine i am
an advocate for war dogs which is yeah yeah that
was pretty good so i think you know he made his
money with hangover like He made money with Hangover.
But what it is, to me, is all of those things
have a tinge of comedy. And yes, it can, because
it is the Joker, have a tinge of comedy. But
this is very much a drama movie. Yes. The dark
movie. Well, to me, I'm more so on it more just
for Joaquin Phoenix. Which is fair. Because he's
proven to me that he can carry a film. The casting
is a good choice, I think. Could I ask a possibly
super dumb question? Is this supposed to be like...
per the comic book storyline like his story or
is it just kind of some it might have comic book
origins are so vague okay yeah see i don't know
the closest is probably red hood and it doesn't
look like it has anything of red hood right it
definitely takes it doesn't look like they're
taking their own spin on it okay yeah which is
great they should i mean because i have no frame
of reference at all so yeah i barely do either
for joker specifically so i mean like It is very,
like, up in the air, who knows what Joker's actual
thing is. This is the first one attempting, like,
we're going to cut it down and make an actual
movie. Okay, cool. Because I feel like all the
movies I've seen between, like, Heath Ledger's
Joker, Jerry Ledger, I have, like, no idea. They're
all over the place. Which was definitely a part
of Heath Ledger's is he never wanted you to know
what his actual role was. Right. Yeah. Interesting
in that way, I guess. So anyways, if this movie
pays off, I feel like that's a huge boon for
DC because that's a way that they can differentiate
themselves from the MCU, right? Where like, hey,
we can put out these movies, these really interesting
different movies without the baggage of a cinematic
universe. See, I almost would rather a cinematic
universe of like... villain origin stories. Don't
put it past Kevin Feige. That could happen soon.
I'm okay with that. Sony tried to do it, sort
of, with the Sinister Six. They tried to do the
Venom movie. And Venom, yeah. The Venom movie
led somewhere, so it's coming. I'm still mad
about it. I like Venom better than... I don't
know. I just wish that... That's a different
discussion. It is. Alright. I'm excited for the
Netflix Ted Bundy movie that also dropped. That's
with Zac Efron? Zac Efron, yeah. And it's got
Lily Collins, I think, is in it. And random,
what's his face? Good old what's his face? John
Malkovich? Yeah, he's in it, and then... Sheldon
Cooper guy? Yes. Yeah. Which kind of threw me
for... He's a lawyer. He's a lawyer. Which one?
I saw that kind of threw me for a loop. Yeah.
I cannot imagine him. Is this a movie or a series?
It's a movie. It's a movie. It's a Netflix movie.
Okay. Shockingly evil, vile, something... Yeah,
let me... I should have looked it up when we
were talking. Yeah, shockingly evil, yeah, something
like that. It's shockingly evil, extremely heinous,
vile. Right. That's what it's called. So it's
coming out soon. Zac Efron is the charismatic...
Mr. Bundy. Exactly. Extremely wicked, shockingly
evil, and vile. My beautiful dark twist of fantasy.
Yeah, for sure. I've been actually really excited
for this to come out because, I mean, they shot
this in Cincinnati, northern Kentucky, a while
ago. So the only reason that's the only reason
I knew about it, actually. And I like crime stuff.
It's my big thing. I listen to crime podcasts.
Mike and I test every day. I watch TV. It's like...
crime shit. So I'm like really excited because
I think it's bad. Like the psychological stuff.
I know. She has the perfect murder for me. We're
not talking about that. But I think the psychological
aspect is super cool. And, I mean, from the trailer,
Zac Efron, I mean, I think he did or is going
to do a really good job because he is, like,
kind of creepy. Because that's the whole Ted
Bundy thing. He's, like, so charming. I think
the casting's a good, yeah, it's a good pick
because, yeah, because you already associate
Zac Efron with, like, charming, harmless actor,
right? Attractive, even though, like, everybody
says Ted Bundy was attractive. No, but that's
okay. No, but he was attractive for a serial
killer. Yeah, for a serial, yeah, exactly, right.
But he does kind of look like Ted Bundy, too.
He does with the hair. Yeah, he's got the hair
and stuff. Charming, definitely. It'll be interesting
to see his dramatic side. Because he's not usually
in dramas so much. He tried doing a handful of
dramatic movies. Charlie St. Cloud. I saw that.
It was terrible. But it was trying to be super
dramatic. I never saw Charlie St. Cloud, so I
can't say. It's okay. Maybe that could be an
excellent movie. Have you heard of High School
Musical 3? Yeah, dude. Are you kidding me? I
have a High School Musical 2 lunchbox from a
friend of ours. Yeah, we kept it. It looks cool.
It looks good. It seems like it's scratching
the same itch that Mindhunter did, which is not
a TV series, but kind of similar vein. I'm also
interested why it was picked up by Netflix and
nobody else. But it won Sundance stuff. So Netflix
bought it. It could just be Netflix said, we
want to pay this much for it. It's not a bad
thing. I'm not getting into that argument. Netflix
can be a spot for certain things. yeah you know
no definitely well they're trying to there's
tons of Netflix movies now they're trying to
make a stake in exactly but like Steven Spielberg
long story Steven Spielberg went out and said
like that you're putting your stuff on Netflix
you're low class essentially maybe that's how
it used to be I don't think it is anymore wrong
fake news exactly and so that that's really the
whole argument there yeah it's more so I'm just
wondering how Netflix got it if they paid out
the wazoo for it great I'm in great They definitely
have the money to pay literally for anything
they want. They do. And I feel like they need
to win in terms of this is a Netflix studio movie
or whatever. I guess it wasn't produced by Netflix.
Probably not. If it's screened at Sundance, they'd
probably buy it. Sundance is where movies get
bought. Well, still, a Netflix quote -unquote
original. Netflix plays really hard past this.
They would call it an original. They still call
it that. Well, they have their logo on the trailer
even. It's in the corner watermarking. out oh
yeah so all right um the movie i'm going to talk
about um well there's a few that came to mind
i thought somebody was going to talk about shazam
i didn't mention it i'm actually thinking this
is going to be a win for dc but that's not the
one i'm talking about uh best of enemies i'm
not excited for even though it has some very
good faces uh the one i was going to talk about
is under the radar a little bit coming out in
two weeks i'm really excited for hellboy Hellboy.
Yeah. I'm excited for the reimagining. Yeah.
Yeah. Hellboy. I love David Harbour. Yeah. And
so I think he's a great cast for that. It's not
going to be the same. It's going to be very different.
No. Yeah. But I'm excited for it. I like Hellboy.
I like the... It looks like more Hellboy. Exactly.
And that's what I want. Yeah. You know, it's
not going to be a great movie. I don't think.
But it's one that I'm excited to pay my money
for and I'm going to see and I'm going to be
happy about. Who's behind it? So obviously Guillermo
del Toro did. Did he do both or just the first
one? I thought he just did the first one. Okay,
so he did the first one. I'm just curious who
else is in this. So Ian McShane's in it. That's
pretty cool. Neil Marshall. So I don't know his
stuff. The Descent. One of the most terrifying
movies I've ever seen. So he directed that. He
directed an episode or two of Lost in Space.
He's done some Westworld. Lost in Space? He directed
a few episodes or something. Two episodes of
Game of Thrones. Okay, so obviously he has chops.
I'm just curious what his tone is. He's doing
more TV and dark TV kind of thing. He's done
horror Game of Thrones. That means he's done
action. So I'm in on this. And it's really the
first movie for Mila Jovovich. I can't say that.
Good one. Yeah. Diet effort. She was like blocked
by the Resident Evil movies it feels like. Yeah,
definitely. And so this is like the first one
where she can kind of, you know. Oh my God, the
Resident Evil movies. Yeah, you're welcome, buddy.
She did a career on it, man. She did. God damn.
Make that money, dude. I'm sorry. Make it sequels.
We can't forget she was also in Zoolander 2.
What? How did that not save her career? That
was obviously the stronger of the two Zoolanders,
as we all know. Oh, my God. I'm still very pissed
that they didn't call it Zoolander. Zoolander.
It was right there. I forgot about Zoolander,
another one. It was right there. Another Zoolander.
Another Zoolander. Another Wolf Cup. Another
Zoolander. But that will do it for this episode.
If you have ideas where T -Dog is, you can do
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outreach to find T -Dog. We don't know where
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-Dog is. We are once again drinking Aviation
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Jigawatts. We got Shakeology from Beachbody.
Yeah, so do you guys have any closing remarks?
Justice for T -Dog. Justice for T -Dog? Yes.
Who you said was vomiting. Look, man. He still
needs justice. He needs justice. I mean, I got
nothing. Hope T -Dog finds his way off the grid,
man. Back on the grid. Whatever. He needs to
get back on. He needs to get back on. I want
him back in our lives. Missing T -Dog. Aw. Hashtag
missing T -Dog. But that'll do it for us for
Game for a Movie. We'll see you next time. There
was more thoughts, but then it stopped. I was
like, oh. What? Oh.