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In a world with terrible movies, four friends

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compete against each other to watch the worst

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of the worst. After seeing the movies, they come

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together and review them for your pleasure. Who

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saw the worst movie? What did they think of it?

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Was it really that bad? Challenges are different

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every week, but Andre, Mike, Mitchell, and T

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-Dog have to have their wits about them. No one

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wants to see a bad movie, so to be forced to

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is the worst thing imaginable. Can they stay

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off the loser board and not have to see a bad

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movie? Their time to lose this week. The answer

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to these questions and more on Game for a Movie.

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Yeah, that's the sound of another Game for a

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Movie starting. It is MCU edition. Whoa, whoa.

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All right, let me turn my volume down a little

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bit. Are you hearing the music? Are your ears

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okay? Dude, I nailed it, right? Buddy. Buddy.

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I nailed that. I love your enthusiasm. We are

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going to go over all 22 MCU movies, the Infinity

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Saga, as it were. That's a lot. Yeah, it's going

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to be a lot. We're going to break it into three

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parts. By the way, I'm your host, Mikey Tech.

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I am joined by... Mitchell Clements. And Andre

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Bellinger. We're using our full names now. We

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are using our full names now. It did catch me

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off guard. It threw me off. I was like, oh. Because

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you've always been Mitchell. You've always been

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Andre. I've said my name every time. It's true.

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And then we have T -Dog missing, obviously. Well,

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T -Dog is his full name. Not everyone knows that.

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So the reason T -Dog isn't here is because he

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didn't sign the event. Was it the Sokovia? Yeah.

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He's unwilling to reveal his secret identity.

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You know, good old Civil War. Andre versus T

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-Dog. You know what, man? I'm team Iron Man the

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entire time, so Andre, I have to be under your

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team. Sick. You got it. All right. You have my

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axe. I don't know what I'd fight with, but you

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have it. I'm sure it'd be an axe. I'm sure it'd

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be something badass. Great. Yeah. Team T -Dog.

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I have it for you. Woof. You're Team T -Dog.

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Well, you have to, because then it's unfair.

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We have four of us. We have to split. Oh, okay.

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Otherwise, like, it's like, nonchalant. It's

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when Black Widow and... Hawkeye were fighting

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in Civil War. We're still friends, right? It's

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funny. They have another fight scene later on

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in their relationship. They do have another fight

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scene later on in their relationship, but we'll

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get to that. There will be endgame spoilers.

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We're going to hold it until the end so you can

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listen to the MCU talk, you can understand where

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our placement is, and then you can get spoiled

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if you haven't seen the movie yet. Fair? Fair.

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Absolutely. All right, so we're going to split

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this into three parts. The first part is movie

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22 on your list to 15. You're just going to read

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your list. We'll talk about that section in a

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little bit. Then 14 to 8, and finally 7 to 1.

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Cool. Okay? All right. So we will start off.

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I guess I'll start. Yeah. You're going from the

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bottom up, right? I am going from the bottom

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up. All right. Movie 22. I included the two I

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have not really seen. I kind of have seen it,

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but bits and pieces. But the two, and I don't

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think there's really going to be much argument

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on this, the two at the bottom are Thor, The

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Dark World, and Incredible Hulk, 22 and 21. Check

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and check for me. Yep, same. I was just going

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to say they're interchangeable probably, but...

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I'm just a bigger fan of the Hulk than I am of

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Thor, at least that version of Thor. That's fair.

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That's very fair. Number 20, I have Iron Man

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3. 19, Thor. 18, Iron Man 2. 17, Avengers Age

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of Ultron. Okay. 16, Captain America The First

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Avenger. Ooh, interesting. Okay. And then 15,

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Ant -Man. Wow. Wow. Wow. Okay. For me, at least,

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because I am going to defend Iron Man 3 in my

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next section. Sure. But for First Avenger. Now,

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obviously, it's the weakest, in my opinion, of

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the Captain America movies, and that's including

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Avengers 2 1⁄2, which was, of course, Civil War.

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Of course, I agree with that. On a rewatch, I'll

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say this, and especially with Endgame in mind,

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and that's the thing. That kind of changes your

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relationship with some of these movies because

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of how Endgame incorporates different characters

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and their stories. going way back to their first

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films. So I look back on it much more fondly.

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And I thought it was such a genuine way of showing

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the character of Captain America. I thought it

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was a great character setting in general. And

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Chris Evans bursting onto the scene when we've

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already seen established guys like Robert Downey

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Jr. and then Chris Hemsworth and Thor, who I

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thought both were well cast. He absolutely blew

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me away. Probably just more so for the performance

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of him than it being set in World War II, which

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I'm a sucker for when it comes to movies. So

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I rank it a little bit higher, though obviously

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not anywhere in my top ten. But I really appreciate

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that movie. Probably more than most. So my list

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is very much on re -watchability. And if I'm

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sitting down to watch a Marvel movie, I'm not

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watching First Adventure. That's the only reason

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I think it's that low. It's a long movie. drawn

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out it's um it's just one of those things where

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i i i just don't want to watch it again you know

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that's really it and so that's why it's so low

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on my list it's not that i'm saying it's a bad

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movie i don't think really any of these are horrible

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movies Yeah. Thor The Dark World, maybe. Incredible

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Hulk, maybe. Like I said, I haven't really seen

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them. I've just seen bits and pieces and haven't

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been excited to go back and watch it. Right.

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But maybe those are. But everything else from,

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like, 20 on, Iron Man 3 was my 20. Like, I would

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watch Iron Man 3 again. I would watch Captain

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America First Avenger again. But compared to

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these other movies, I'm not. hooting and hollering

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going i need to watch captain america first avenger

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again that's a good point because when it comes

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to these movies kevin feige marvel and now disney

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they make these on the hope that you're going

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to re -watch it in a theater right that's right

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they're going to cash in their money so re -watchability

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absolutely has to be a part of the equation oh

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sure yeah look at these movies yeah I would say

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that I'm kind of with Mitchell on this one in

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that when I first saw it in the theaters, I wasn't

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super hot. It was fine, but it's gotten better

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with age for me. With each rewatch, just the

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way it fits, not even just with Endgame, but

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also I rewatched all the Captain America movies

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in a row after Civil War, and I thought that

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three -movie arc is really strong, and that's

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a huge part of it. It is my strongest three -movie

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arc by far, and I don't think anybody would disagree

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with that because Thor... Two out of three ain't

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bad. Yeah. And, like, Thor 1 is, eh? Yeah. You

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know? It's like, there's totally different trilogies,

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but I do kind of look at the first Avengers similar

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to how I look at Batman Begins, in that, like,

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it's not my favorite of those three by far, but

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they got a lot right on the first try, and, like,

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more than it usually gets credit for, I think.

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Okay. But, yeah, so. Okay. That's fair. That's

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just the way it fell on my list, just based on

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watchability. Cool. Mitchell? Yeah, so no surprises

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down here. Dark Worlds, 22. Incredible Hulk,

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21. Iron Man 2, I have at 20. Then Thor at 19.

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Age of Ultron, 18. Captain Marvel at 17. It dropped

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a lot farther down the list than I'd expected

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so early. Definitely. Ant -Man and the Wasp at

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16, though a very fun movie. And number 15, Doctor

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Strange. Okay. Yeah, I thought that was a very

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so -so movie. Yeah. The one redeeming thing,

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I do like Benedict Cumberbatch. Batch's performance,

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it's fine. It reminded me a lot of House. Yeah,

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no, to me, it was just, it felt like Iron Man

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1, except that the main character was House.

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Exactly. That's kind of what it felt like to

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me. And Robert Downey Jr., from a charisma standpoint,

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just blows Benedict out of the water in that

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kind of role. I agree. And then, I will say this,

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some love for Doctor Strange, the battle sequence,

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or the, you know, the big bad at the end, Numanu?

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Is that his name? Dormammu. Dormammu. So anyway,

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Dormammu. Great. So, That's why it's at 15. But

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I will say this. A lot of these... Dormumu. Got

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it. Dormumu. A lot of these Marvel movies kind

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of fall into the same trope of like, you know,

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it's your equal. It's like the evil version of

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Iron Man is like your first big villain. This

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was a creative way of having a battle. It wasn't

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punching. It wasn't blasting. It was actually

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outsmarting the villain. It was outsmarting the

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villain. And I absolutely love that. So I give

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it a little credit for that. When I saw it in

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theaters, I really disliked that. Like, really

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dislike that. And it's grown on me since. Because

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I do agree. It's not punches. It's not... It

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didn't even rely really that much on, like, the

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Doctor Strange magic, that kind of thing. Right.

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Besides the Time Stone, obviously. Which is a

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huge part of what he does. Exactly. Which is...

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Yeah. But besides that, it really was, hey, I

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figured it out. If we're fighting for eternity,

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you can't hurt Earth. And, like, that was okay.

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It took me until, like, that second, third watch

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where I'm like... oh yeah, that kind of... It's

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a creative way to beat a villain. Yeah. So he

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wasn't like, you know, teleporting him to another

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dimension. Right, exactly. And it wasn't just

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like... oh, all of a sudden, I found this magical

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power or this new strength or anything like that.

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No, it was the natural part of the story, right?

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He had mastered the Time Stone. He understood

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how to use it, and he used it in a pretty inventive

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way, at least to the audience and definitely

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to him at the moment. So very cool with that.

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So any questions with that, guys, with what I

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had? Well, I don't know. It seemed pretty...

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I'm going to say Captain Marvel seemed a little

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low. Oh, I'm with you. Yeah. So this is definitely

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a thing where, Me and Andre saw it together.

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And I was immediately lukewarm. Like it was good,

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not great. It was middle of the road Marvel for

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me. And I thought it would have been closer to

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14 than 17. That's what I'm saying. I'm not surprised

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that it's in the middle. I'm surprised. low middle.

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Yeah, and I guess for me, I'm looking at the

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movies ahead of it, and I won't spoil, if you

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want to call it a spoiler, of who's in my next

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section, but for Doctor Strange, there was that

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third act, and I love the visuals and the learning

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stuff with the Elder. That was cool with the

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visuals. Yeah, so there was a lot I liked there,

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and Ant -Man and the Wasp, especially following

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Infinity War, was just a breath of fresh air

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where like, okay, let's just have fun for two

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hours. And Paul Rudd is an American treasure,

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so... I love Paul Rudd. I love Paul Rudd. So

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just immediately looking at those two, I'm like,

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Captain Marvel just didn't do it for me. Even

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though there was a lot to like, you know, there's

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a lot to pick apart as well. A lot of the music

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choices were really on the nose. The stuff that

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happened in space, which, by the way, they opened

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with, is pretty unengaging, in my opinion. A

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lot of the best stuff was on Earth. I also don't

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like how they revealed the... plot or like they

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just they never really explained her backstory

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it's just she pieced it together kind of because

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she saw it all yeah yeah and that was another

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thing that was like and i won't give them credit

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for doing a kind of um backwards origin story

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where it's the hero discovering that she is the

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hero yeah like you know she's discovering her

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own backstory it's not her living through it

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as it's happening you know sure so i Give them

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a little credit for trying that, though I don't

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think it landed for me. Not really, yeah. I just

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felt like her character... I just... I don't

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know. I'm not going to say it was inconsistent,

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but, like, sometimes she was snarky, sometimes

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she was, like, kind of, you know, a fish out

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of water, you know what I mean? Like, where...

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Like, I don't know. She seemed, at times, well

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-adjusted to Earth culture, and other times that

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she was just totally foreign, if that makes sense.

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So, like, are they going for a Thor thing? Are

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they going for... There were two directors on

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this project, and that could be an inconsistency

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in directorial vision of what this character

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and his movie should be. And I will say this,

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and this is not a knock -on. specifically Captain

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Marvel because I think Marvel as a whole has

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an issue with this. When you get to the CGI fights,

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man, are they boring. In my opinion. There's

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a lot of CGI fights in Captain Marvel. If we're

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picking nits here and this is what we're doing,

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we're making a list. Captain Marvel takes a couple

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hits from me because of those things. For sure.

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Andre? This is with the caveat that I have not

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seen either Ant -Man, so don't really bear their

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ranking in mind. I haven't seen them yet, but

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I plan on it. I still can't believe you haven't

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seen either Ant -Man. I don't know. I enjoy them.

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I'm sure there's movies that we have. Especially

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after watching Endgame, I want to watch more

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Ant -Man. Anyways, so number 22, Incredible Hulk.

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Number 21, Thor Dark World. 20 is Iron Man 2.

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19, Ant -Man and the Wasp. Then 18 is Doctor

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Strange. 17, Ant -Man. And then 16, Captain Marvel.

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And then 15 is Avengers, Age of Ultron. Okay,

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I was going to say Avengers is done. You took

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a really good pause there. I was like, whoa.

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Avengers done. I hate that movie. So I have a

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question for both of you. Just because it's based

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on going on my list too. I had Iron Man 3 as

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worse than Iron Man 2. Yes. I was actually going

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to follow up on that. So why do you guys have

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Iron Man 2 worse than Iron Man 3? Because I feel

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like Iron Man 3 actually is a story about Iron

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Man and Iron Man 2. almost feels like a setup

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for the Avengers. I feel like Iron Man 2 was

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the first movie where they're like, oh man, they

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have so much other stuff going on. Age of Ultron

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also fell into this too, where Age of Ultron

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was a sequel. It set up so, yeah, anyways. Yeah,

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I don't know. All of this stuff, the whole entire

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middle section of that movie where Thor, where

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Thor, wow, where Tony Stark is trying to figure

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out how to create a new element, none of that

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was really all that great. That didn't really

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do much for me. Yeah, and then, yeah, I don't

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know. The villain falls flat for me, too. I don't

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know. Very lukewarm. Yeah, for me, and you're

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going to notice this as the list goes on, and

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I will point this out. I could name the director

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for each and every one of these movies in my

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top ten. So, I... And I will say this, I don't

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know who directed Iron Man 2, but Iron Man 3

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was directed by Shane Black, famous for lots

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of things, like Beeple Weapon, The Nice Guys

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with Ryan Gosling, and Russell Crowe, which I

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absolutely love. Great movie. He definitely has

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a vision, and he definitely reuses a lot of themes

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in his movies. And I felt like for Marvel, this

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was one of the first times that they allowed

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a director with a really distinct style to have

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fun with the character. This was set during Christmas,

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which is a very Shane Black. thing um this is

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a very um introspective story because we have

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tony basically on his own pepper's not in it

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really until the very end right uh this is him

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kind of discovering not only the flaws that he

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has in relying on being Iron Man, which is a

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lesson he carries forward in Homecoming and the

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future Avengers movies and stuff. But it's also

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something where he realizes that he could also

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be a better person, which again leads into Homecoming

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and the relationship he has with Peter Parker.

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For sure, if you look back on the relationship

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you have with the kid where he crash lands in

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Iron Man 3. So I think from a character standpoint,

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I thought Iron Man 3 did a lot of great things.

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It dealt with the quote -unquote PTSD, if you

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want to call it that. something that serious

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with the events of Avengers yeah which was which

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was a big part of it it was honestly I need to

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watch it again because it's been such a long

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time but I remember feeling pretty surface level

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where like oh man like he's like yeah he's received

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brief flashes of the Avengers like the actual

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fight scenes from Avengers and like They don't

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go deeper than that. I feel like PTSD can be

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a topic that you can really delve into. That's

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part of my problem with Iron Man 3 and why I

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have it low. By the way, Iron Man 2 was Jon Favreau.

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Was it still Favreau? It's still Favreau. And

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that's why he did Chef afterwards because he

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felt the pressure of all these studios making

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him do what they wanted him to do. And so he

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made Chef because he was like, alright. I'm doing

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this on my own. Yeah. That did not feel like

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a Jon Favreau move. Right. So there's got to

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be a lot of meddling, right? Yeah, sure. And

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so that's what I think part of it is. My problem

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with Iron Man 3 and why I have it lower is the

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PTSD I thought was a great point, actually. Sure.

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Which I thought they should have driven more.

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Yes, we're in agreement there. Yeah. The problem

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is it felt like next movie it kind of dropped

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it. Yes. And it was just like, oh, he's over

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his PTSD. And that's kind of like the reality

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of having multiple directors on this train of

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Marvel Cinematic Movies. And then they tried

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to reveal that the bad guy was a different bad

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guy at the end. Yeah, I thought that was a little

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sloppy. I give him credit, but... Fucking Ben

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Kingsley is the Mandarin. What's wrong with Ben

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Kingsley? I loved Trevor Slattery. I hated Mandarin

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to Trevor Slattery. Gotcha. You know what I mean?

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Yes, yes, yes. And so that's what pissed me off.

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So that's part of the reason as well why Iron

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Man 3, I can't forgive it for that. I can't.

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Okay. Sure, that's fair. Alright. So we go to

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14 through 8. 14, I have Captain Marvel. 13,

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Doctor Strange. 12, Ant -Man and the Wasp. 11,

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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2. And then 10,

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Black Panther. 9, Iron Man. And 8, Avengers Endgame.

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8. I think that's solid. To be honest, a movie

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that just came out, you're really fighting the

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recency bias there. Definitely. Well, the thing

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was, I didn't really like it as much as other

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people did that I've talked to. I thought it

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was good. It was a good representation. We'll

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jump into this, but... I felt it was very fanservice

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-y, just to give it a word. I feel like our placements

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on this list... I will argue that was its greatest

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strength, and I've never seen fanservice done

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so well. It can be, but there's certain things

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that I want to nitpick. I also wanted to say

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that I feel like placing it on this list was

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very hard for me just because it's so recent.

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I'm coming off of less than 72 hours after watching

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it, and that's a pretty emotional movie, I guess.

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It could land anywhere next week, if what I'm

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saying is right. You guys have any arguments

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with my... 14 through 8. Black Panther being

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so low for me. Oh, buddy. Because I know it's

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in yours, too. I will say this, and, you know,

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this is, of course, in the aftermath of having

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it nominated for Oscars and being nominated for

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Best Picture and stuff, of course they brought

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all these stories, which may or may not be 100

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% true, but after the first screening of the

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film, Kevin Feige leaned over to Ryan Coogler

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and said, you made us into a film studio, no

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longer just a popcorn flick. Sure, which is fair.

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Which is fair to say because Black Panther had

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a ton to say. and using superheroes in a fashion

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that we really haven't seen all too often before

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so especially on the scale and with the budget

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that marvel is willing to give because let's

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remember this is still a disney movie and they

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pegged ryan coogler who had done fruitvale station

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before creed was definitely dipping his toes

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into more right you know fan stuff bigger picture

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yeah um I just absolutely loved... I could talk

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about this more once we get to the top seven.

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But for me, there hasn't been a more distinctly

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directed MCU film that I just enjoy being in

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Ryan Coogler's head for the first two acts. Because

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in the third act, it definitely... I think it

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really is just the third act for me. It does

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not land on its feet, unlike other cats. There

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were parts of the third act that were good. It's

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not great. And then there was parts of the third

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act where I was just like, and here we go. Right,

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exactly. If anything, the part that I like the

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most about Black Panther is the conversation

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around it in terms of representation in media

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because that shit's super important. And if this

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starts a conversation, if this leads to more

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black films in pop culture, that's fucking awesome.

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And I'm so down for that. Let me explain. I'm

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all for that. I think this was great, what this

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movie did. But... No, no. I mean, there is a

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but, but I feel like it's a very minor but in

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comparison. Just saying that it wasn't for me.

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And so that's why I think I have it... I say

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it so low. It's in my top ten. And my top ten

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I feel like could change every day. I'm going

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to have some explaining to do in my placement.

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But it's just one of those things. Literally

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one through ten, I would happily watch. over

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and over and over again. I'm already in, like,

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after the bottom seven, I'm already in I Will

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Enthusiastically Rewatch territory. Some of these,

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yes. Some of these, no. But, so, that's what

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I'm saying about Black Panther, is it wasn't

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for me, which is fine. Like, I understand that.

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I accept that. I understand why people have it

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higher, because it is a fantastic movie. It just

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wasn't my fantastic movie. You know what I mean?

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Yeah, I gotcha. So, I'm not, I'm not saying it

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other than this is my personal preference. For

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sure. Right. Cool. Should I go? Yep. All you,

00:21:41.910 --> 00:21:44.430
buddy. 14, we got Ant -Man. Okay. Then we go

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down to Iron Man 3. Captain America, the first

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Avenger at 12. At 11, Guardians of the Galaxy

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Vol. 2. Okay. Number 10, Spider -Man Homecoming.

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Number 9, Civil War. And number 8, the original

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Avengers. Oh. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so they're...

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Goes 14 through 8. So why do you hate Spider

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-Man? Yeah, I had to look at your phone for a

00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:08.740
second because I thought I heard Spider -Man.

00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:11.660
Yeah, Spider -Man at 10. So it's a fun movie.

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I absolutely love Tom Holland in the role. He

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is the best Spider -Man on screen. He is a Spider

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-Man that I read as a kid. And I'm absolutely

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enthralled that he is a part of this greater

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cinematic universe and we're going to see him

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all over the place. And I can't wait for Far

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From Home. It's a, you know, it was a film. that

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had its vision set on being a modern take on

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a John Hughes 80s comedy, which I absolutely

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love. I'm into that. But, you know, if I'm looking,

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this isn't a knock against it, just a knock or

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just comparing it to what I have in front of

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it. I just enjoy certain parts of the story more.

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So I think with Homecoming, there was a lot of

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great moments, a lot of character building. I

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love Michael Keaton in the Vulture's role and

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how they reimagined his backstory for the MCU

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in particular. Right. Because it had really nothing

00:23:02.009 --> 00:23:04.410
to do with this comic book version. Right. And

00:23:04.410 --> 00:23:06.849
honestly, the Vulture, I'm a big Spider -Man

00:23:06.849 --> 00:23:09.170
fan, and the Vulture in the comics does nothing

00:23:09.170 --> 00:23:12.630
for me. When I originally heard that he was going

00:23:12.630 --> 00:23:14.430
to be the Vulture, I was like, Michael Keaton?

00:23:14.529 --> 00:23:16.130
Yeah. Oh, great. Yeah, sure. But then I was like,

00:23:16.150 --> 00:23:18.349
oh, Vulture. Is there a vulture? Yeah. I felt

00:23:18.349 --> 00:23:19.750
the same as when they announced the lizard for

00:23:19.750 --> 00:23:21.529
Amazing Spider -Man. I was like, okay, whatever.

00:23:22.049 --> 00:23:25.130
But I thought they did a really good job. They

00:23:25.130 --> 00:23:28.230
killed the vulture. I think it was... Yeah, and

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I will say this. If we were going to break down

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my top ten scenes in a Marvel movie, so this

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is every single scene in these 22 movies, and

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my top five is definitely in the car scene. That

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is so well done, and I wish there was more of

00:23:41.910 --> 00:23:45.150
that in this movie, or at least scenes that reach

00:23:45.150 --> 00:23:47.890
that height of tension. So anyway, but if you're

00:23:47.890 --> 00:23:50.880
looking at what's ahead of it. Civil War, we

00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:53.240
get the first impression of Tom Holland in that

00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:55.940
role. But it's that dynamic between Tony and

00:23:55.940 --> 00:23:58.059
Steve Rogers that I absolutely love and I could

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watch all day. I could do this all day. Of course,

00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:04.160
The Avengers brings me back to the time when

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I got a last minute ticket with my friend, Jenya.

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We went up to the very front of this theater

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and we were looking up. She's great. We were

00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:15.500
looking up at the theater. My neck hurt, but

00:24:15.500 --> 00:24:17.190
man, I had such a great time. That's awesome.

00:24:17.329 --> 00:24:19.829
I had such a great time. I'd never seen so many

00:24:19.829 --> 00:24:22.710
heroes in one film. Exactly. Six years later,

00:24:22.869 --> 00:24:24.829
Infinity War would come out. Right, yeah. It's

00:24:24.829 --> 00:24:26.230
kind of in this weird spot where I feel like

00:24:26.230 --> 00:24:29.710
a lot of... Yeah, dude. Yeah, 2012 to 2018. Yeah.

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Wow. Crazy. Well, technically 2019. Well, no,

00:24:32.789 --> 00:24:35.349
for Infinity War. Oh, Infinity War. Sorry, sorry,

00:24:35.349 --> 00:24:37.130
sorry. It would really be amped up to the next

00:24:37.130 --> 00:24:38.930
level. Yeah, definitely. I feel like Infinity

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War and Endgame have kind of overshadowed it

00:24:41.490 --> 00:24:44.130
a little bit, but man, it's hard to separate...

00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:46.740
the original 2012 Avengers from that movie going

00:24:46.740 --> 00:24:48.099
experience for the first time. It's like, wow,

00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:50.279
they fucking nailed it. You know, like they stuck

00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:52.099
the landing when I thought it was going to, like,

00:24:52.140 --> 00:24:53.259
I thought the wheels were going to fall off the

00:24:53.259 --> 00:24:54.819
bus way before then. Yeah. Especially when I

00:24:54.819 --> 00:24:58.099
saw Iron Man 2. But yeah, I don't know. Like

00:24:58.099 --> 00:25:00.579
it's, yeah, that's, that remains to be probably

00:25:00.579 --> 00:25:02.019
my favorite movie going experience. Just going

00:25:02.019 --> 00:25:04.299
with all my friends and we were just so amazed

00:25:04.299 --> 00:25:07.789
that it actually worked out. So one more in defense

00:25:07.789 --> 00:25:10.490
of Homecoming at number 10. I also have it in

00:25:10.490 --> 00:25:12.990
front of Guardians 2, which I really like. I

00:25:12.990 --> 00:25:15.789
really like that movie. So there is some credit

00:25:15.789 --> 00:25:18.250
to be had there. I just think that the MCU...

00:25:18.490 --> 00:25:20.890
overall has produced better overall films, whether

00:25:20.890 --> 00:25:23.589
that's in conjunction with how it relates to

00:25:23.589 --> 00:25:26.109
the other movies surrounding it. I thought it

00:25:26.109 --> 00:25:28.250
was great. It's a standalone movie that had stakes

00:25:28.250 --> 00:25:31.210
that was just inside New York City and in the

00:25:31.210 --> 00:25:33.549
boroughs. And it didn't really have to rely on,

00:25:33.650 --> 00:25:36.150
oh man, there's a city floating in the air. We

00:25:36.150 --> 00:25:38.690
have to save all the people. So I really like

00:25:38.690 --> 00:25:40.829
this. But like Mike was saying, it's in my top

00:25:40.829 --> 00:25:43.470
10. It's in my top 10, which means a lot. That

00:25:43.470 --> 00:25:47.230
being said. That's why I have Guardians 2 so

00:25:47.230 --> 00:25:49.789
low. Right. It's because they're fighting a fucking

00:25:49.789 --> 00:25:52.430
planet. Yes. Like, it was just the exact opposite

00:25:52.430 --> 00:25:55.549
of... But the planet is his dad, though. Did

00:25:55.549 --> 00:25:57.789
you hear that sentence? Did you hear that sentence?

00:25:57.869 --> 00:26:01.869
No, it's great. I love it. I love it. I heard

00:26:01.869 --> 00:26:05.430
that sentence. And I'll say it again. Wait, say

00:26:05.430 --> 00:26:11.029
it again. That planet is his dad, though. I love

00:26:11.029 --> 00:26:15.029
these fucking movies. It's so crazy. Like, trying

00:26:15.029 --> 00:26:16.869
to explain this to anybody that's lived under

00:26:16.869 --> 00:26:19.470
a rock since Iron Man came out. Yeah. Just trying

00:26:19.470 --> 00:26:21.769
to explain the entire Marvel Universe and be

00:26:21.769 --> 00:26:24.859
like, but... Yeah, there's this secret country

00:26:24.859 --> 00:26:30.940
in Africa that's like way above everything. There's

00:26:30.940 --> 00:26:35.140
a floating city. That's great. He fought a planet

00:26:35.140 --> 00:26:38.339
that was also his father. And he turned into

00:26:38.339 --> 00:26:40.880
a giant Pac -Man monster and punched him. Right,

00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:43.740
exactly. That all happened. Yeah, that happened.

00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:45.859
All right, should I go through my minutes? You

00:26:45.859 --> 00:26:47.599
should, yes. All right, so I'm sorry. We're starting

00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:52.859
at 14 now? 14 through 8. All right, so 14 is

00:26:52.859 --> 00:26:57.619
Iron Man 3. 13 is Thor. 12 is Black Panther.

00:26:58.140 --> 00:27:00.480
11 is Captain America First Avenger. 10 is Iron

00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.000
Man. 9 is Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2. 8 is

00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:07.220
Captain America Civil War. Okay. Yeah. You really

00:27:07.220 --> 00:27:11.130
like Thor 1. Yeah. Yeah, actually. You know,

00:27:11.150 --> 00:27:12.930
it ended up higher on this list than I thought.

00:27:13.069 --> 00:27:15.369
I would actually probably swap Iron Man 3 and

00:27:15.369 --> 00:27:18.630
Thor. Okay. But it's still one spot. It is. Yeah.

00:27:18.809 --> 00:27:21.130
I got Thor at 19. Yeah, I don't know. I've got

00:27:21.130 --> 00:27:25.230
Thor at 19 as well. I don't know. Yeah, I don't

00:27:25.230 --> 00:27:26.470
really know what to say about that because this

00:27:26.470 --> 00:27:28.369
is just, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what

00:27:28.369 --> 00:27:31.430
to defend. Well, I'm saying this with it being

00:27:31.430 --> 00:27:33.779
19 on my list, but I don't think it's a... No,

00:27:34.099 --> 00:27:36.299
it's not. I enjoyed it when I watched it. I think

00:27:36.299 --> 00:27:38.200
I have a lot of reverence for those Phase 1 films.

00:27:38.500 --> 00:27:42.039
Straight up nostalgia at this point. I think

00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:43.779
it was Iron Man. Did Iron Man 2 come out and

00:27:43.779 --> 00:27:45.440
then it was Thor? Or was it Thor then Iron Man

00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.940
2? It went Iron Man, Incredible, Hulk. I'm pretty

00:27:48.940 --> 00:27:52.000
sure Iron Man 2 then Thor. I'm kind of shocked.

00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:54.880
Honestly, looking at this list, I could probably

00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:56.660
put it lower. I don't really have too many words

00:27:56.660 --> 00:27:58.539
to defend it. I thought Chris Hemsworth was great

00:27:58.539 --> 00:28:03.220
to start off. And Loki's fun too. that, I mean,

00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:04.680
still has all the same problems of a phase one

00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:07.220
movie in that, like, the finale is just a generic

00:28:07.220 --> 00:28:09.819
CGI fight. The Asgard set doesn't really do much

00:28:09.819 --> 00:28:12.799
for me, you know, so. Right. It's so, it's very

00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:14.819
over the top. It's CG to death. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:17.359
The bleach, I'm sure, eyebrows to be blonde.

00:28:17.539 --> 00:28:20.000
That was weird. You're right. In hindsight, it's

00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:22.059
definitely weirder in the moment you kind of

00:28:22.059 --> 00:28:24.299
buy it. It did come out after Iron Man 2, by

00:28:24.299 --> 00:28:26.420
the way. Okay, okay. So maybe I ended up liking

00:28:26.420 --> 00:28:28.440
it more because I was like, oh, thank God, it's

00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:31.819
not Iron Man 2, you know? Yeah. So, yeah, I don't

00:28:31.819 --> 00:28:33.869
know. It could totally be lower, actually, now

00:28:33.869 --> 00:28:35.309
that I think about it. I don't know why it's

00:28:35.309 --> 00:28:37.710
so high, but whatever. Interesting. Okay. Yeah.

00:28:38.990 --> 00:28:40.589
Yeah, that was my mid -tier. All right. What

00:28:40.589 --> 00:28:42.869
was number eight again? Number eight was Captain

00:28:42.869 --> 00:28:44.930
America Civil War. Okay, cool. I had that at

00:28:44.930 --> 00:28:47.910
night, so. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Yeah, it's going

00:28:47.910 --> 00:28:50.970
to be weird because I have a much different spot,

00:28:51.089 --> 00:28:52.849
but. Are we in the end game now? We're in the

00:28:52.849 --> 00:28:55.930
end game now. So, seven to one. Oh, boy. Drum

00:28:55.930 --> 00:29:02.059
roll. All right, that was enough. My seven is

00:29:02.059 --> 00:29:04.720
Spider -Man Homecoming. Okay. Six, The Avengers,

00:29:04.980 --> 00:29:09.339
the original. Great. Five, Thor Ragnarok. Yes.

00:29:09.380 --> 00:29:13.359
Yes. Okay. Four, Captain America Civil War. Yep.

00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:15.619
Okay. Three, Captain America Winter Soldier.

00:29:15.819 --> 00:29:18.619
Ooh. Okay. Very nice. Number two, Guardians of

00:29:18.619 --> 00:29:21.259
the Galaxy. And we wrap it up with Infinity War.

00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:24.240
Okay. All right. I absolutely loved Infinity

00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.789
War. Absolutely. I love your top five. Oh, yeah.

00:29:27.650 --> 00:29:29.809
It's one of those things. Now, that being said,

00:29:29.950 --> 00:29:33.630
the funny thing is, some days I feel like Thor,

00:29:33.710 --> 00:29:35.849
Ragnarok, and Civil War could switch spots. Yeah,

00:29:35.869 --> 00:29:38.630
they're so different. They're so different, but

00:29:38.630 --> 00:29:40.970
at the same time, they're just so well done.

00:29:41.089 --> 00:29:46.809
I love Taika Waititi. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Civil

00:29:46.809 --> 00:29:50.789
War, the reason I say it could switch is just

00:29:50.789 --> 00:29:54.339
because when you look at... whatever his name

00:29:54.339 --> 00:29:57.299
is, plot. What's his name? Helmut Zemo? Is that

00:29:57.299 --> 00:29:59.460
it? Zemo. Yeah. Zemo, yeah. When you look at

00:29:59.460 --> 00:30:02.420
his plot, it's really, like, thin. Yeah, no.

00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:05.519
The villain is not the way, yeah. Exactly. Not

00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:09.359
good. But if you look at his plan, it relied

00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:11.960
on so many things to happen at the right time.

00:30:12.220 --> 00:30:13.319
Yeah, it's one of those things, like, the more

00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:15.140
you think about Civil War, the more dumb it becomes

00:30:15.140 --> 00:30:17.950
a little bit. To me, it just has some great character

00:30:17.950 --> 00:30:19.650
interactions, though, right? And that's exactly

00:30:19.650 --> 00:30:21.950
it. That's the first spot where I saw it, and

00:30:21.950 --> 00:30:25.170
then it was nailed in Infinity War. What I think

00:30:25.170 --> 00:30:29.220
Infinity War does so well is the team -ups. who

00:30:29.220 --> 00:30:31.200
was on the same team, like, that kind of thing.

00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:33.819
Yeah, yeah, definitely. When we had Groot and

00:30:33.819 --> 00:30:36.160
Rocket and Thor, that was probably my favorite

00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.720
team because it was just, they were, like, I

00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:40.619
didn't like what they did. Right. But I just

00:30:40.619 --> 00:30:42.599
liked their team. Sure. It was just, like, calling

00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:45.140
them Rabbit. Yeah, yeah. No, he mixed well. Like,

00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:47.200
they figured out good chemistry with different

00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:48.920
groups. Exactly. For sure. And that's what I

00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.180
loved about it. Yeah. So, I would say, like,

00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:53.740
one of the reasons I like Civil War a lot is

00:30:53.740 --> 00:30:57.130
that I actually think... I feel like T 'Challa

00:30:57.130 --> 00:30:59.150
has a more defined character arc in that movie

00:30:59.150 --> 00:31:01.750
than he does in his own movie. That's kind of

00:31:01.750 --> 00:31:04.410
why I like... Because that was such a great debut

00:31:04.410 --> 00:31:06.230
for that character. And he goes through a lot.

00:31:06.329 --> 00:31:09.230
I don't know. I think he might be my favorite

00:31:09.230 --> 00:31:11.269
character in that film. I don't know. It's pretty

00:31:11.269 --> 00:31:16.309
solid because his goal is revenge. And he also

00:31:16.309 --> 00:31:19.930
just happens to grow along the way too. Not just

00:31:19.930 --> 00:31:22.400
happens, but it's just... It's one of those things

00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:24.480
where you see him grow. You see him understand,

00:31:24.700 --> 00:31:27.339
hey, Bucky was brainwashed. This is not him.

00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.359
Maybe we can help him. Maybe we can, you know,

00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.559
get some answers, that kind of stuff. And so

00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:35.680
it's not all revenge, revenge, revenge. I'm going

00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:38.319
to kill you. That kind of thing. Yeah. He does

00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:40.700
it for these reasons. And like you see those

00:31:40.700 --> 00:31:43.599
reasons. And maybe that's why I didn't connect

00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:45.299
with Black Panther as much because I feel like.

00:31:46.069 --> 00:31:48.349
I feel like his character arc was already, like,

00:31:48.349 --> 00:31:50.069
he didn't really move. Like, T 'Challa's character

00:31:50.069 --> 00:31:51.910
arc didn't really move that much. You know what

00:31:51.910 --> 00:31:53.329
I mean? Where the more interesting character

00:31:53.329 --> 00:31:57.630
arc was Killmonger. Yeah, for sure. So, yeah,

00:31:57.710 --> 00:32:00.029
I don't know. It's just, yeah, just a comment,

00:32:00.130 --> 00:32:03.470
I guess. That's totally fair. All right. So I

00:32:03.470 --> 00:32:08.150
got Iron Man at 7. Okay. Endgame at 6. Thor Ragnarok

00:32:08.150 --> 00:32:11.289
at 5. Yep. Winter Soldier at 4. Okay. Guardians

00:32:11.289 --> 00:32:15.210
1 at 3. The Black Panther. At two. Okay. Infinity

00:32:15.210 --> 00:32:20.109
War. Number one. So it's... One of those things,

00:32:20.210 --> 00:32:22.410
I love Taika Waititi. Of course, Ragnarok was

00:32:22.410 --> 00:32:24.470
going to be in my top five. There was no question

00:32:24.470 --> 00:32:27.829
about it. Winter Soldier was the first time I

00:32:27.829 --> 00:32:30.829
saw a Marvel movie and I saw action scenes that

00:32:30.829 --> 00:32:33.150
I genuinely loved. Oh, I love that. The elevator

00:32:33.150 --> 00:32:36.130
fight scene alone. So good. And I thought they

00:32:36.130 --> 00:32:38.569
were going to bring it back for Endgame. There

00:32:38.569 --> 00:32:40.450
was kind of a moment where they teased it. There

00:32:40.450 --> 00:32:42.250
was a moment, and that was really good. That

00:32:42.250 --> 00:32:43.890
was a good moment. We'll get to it later. Exactly.

00:32:44.470 --> 00:32:47.289
There's no coincidence that the directors of

00:32:47.289 --> 00:32:49.910
Endgame and... Winter Soldier were the same.

00:32:49.970 --> 00:32:51.950
They shot that the same. I think they were teasing

00:32:51.950 --> 00:32:54.950
at it. And then, of course, we talked about Black

00:32:54.950 --> 00:32:58.869
Panther. And then Guardians, in terms of a film

00:32:58.869 --> 00:33:00.829
that showed that the MCU could be much broader

00:33:00.829 --> 00:33:03.630
than the characters that we all, or at least

00:33:03.630 --> 00:33:07.130
the comic people, knew and loved, these are characters

00:33:07.130 --> 00:33:09.990
that even the most hardcore fans would have trouble

00:33:09.990 --> 00:33:12.769
naming. And these are guys that they made you

00:33:12.769 --> 00:33:14.569
fall in love with. Well cast with Chris Pratt

00:33:14.569 --> 00:33:17.430
as the lead, and then really just going out there.

00:33:17.430 --> 00:33:19.549
Who came out of nowhere, too. Yeah, right. He

00:33:19.549 --> 00:33:22.849
was the fat guy on Parks and Rec. Exactly. He

00:33:22.849 --> 00:33:25.390
was Andy. He was Andy on Parks and Rec. And then

00:33:25.390 --> 00:33:27.670
he did that one, you know, he was a part of Zero

00:33:27.670 --> 00:33:29.490
Dark Thirty. He was, yeah. He got a part of Zero

00:33:29.490 --> 00:33:30.789
Dark Thirty. Yeah, I forgot about that. Baby

00:33:30.789 --> 00:33:33.390
Seals. To show that he could actually be an action

00:33:33.390 --> 00:33:35.690
star. But damn, he's so damn charming. He is,

00:33:35.730 --> 00:33:38.250
yeah. I feel like that's a commonality of any

00:33:38.250 --> 00:33:40.910
of these guys moving forward. Chris Hemsworth.

00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.339
Very charming story, especially with what they

00:33:43.339 --> 00:33:45.599
did in Ragnarok. Yes, for sure. They totally

00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:48.140
fixed his character. And that's what these movies

00:33:48.140 --> 00:33:50.099
are really going to live and die on. So, going

00:33:50.099 --> 00:33:51.940
back to your conversation before about scenes.

00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.119
Right. The scene with Come and Get Your Love,

00:33:55.220 --> 00:33:57.859
Redbone, from Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah.

00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:01.259
That is legitimately one of my favorite scenes

00:34:01.259 --> 00:34:05.339
ever. Not just in Marvel movies, like ever. Right.

00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.940
Because it was such a good intro to a character

00:34:07.940 --> 00:34:10.849
as well as what this movie is going to be. And

00:34:10.849 --> 00:34:15.130
so it ends when he leaves that planet, but that

00:34:15.130 --> 00:34:17.900
whole scene as a whole is like... That's what

00:34:17.900 --> 00:34:20.440
I want. Yeah, that's opening credits. It's so

00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:22.619
well done. Oh, yeah, it is. That has James Gunn

00:34:22.619 --> 00:34:24.099
written all over, and I'm happy he's back for

00:34:24.099 --> 00:34:25.860
number three. Obviously, they tried it again

00:34:25.860 --> 00:34:27.719
in volume two, and I liked it in volume two,

00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:29.679
too. Yeah. But it just wasn't the same. And that

00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.139
was the thing about volume two, which is why

00:34:32.139 --> 00:34:34.059
I was so down, just because it's a little rehash

00:34:34.059 --> 00:34:36.820
of volume one. They were playing the hits, which

00:34:36.820 --> 00:34:38.260
isn't terrible. They were playing the hits, but

00:34:38.260 --> 00:34:41.380
on a rewatch, it almost, I kind of. came to terms

00:34:41.380 --> 00:34:43.679
with a little bit more of it being its own movie.

00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:45.340
Because I feel like it hits different character

00:34:45.340 --> 00:34:47.739
notes almost, you know? Well, it explores Drax

00:34:47.739 --> 00:34:51.000
a lot more. Yes. It's a freaking sad movie. It

00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:52.980
can be. Oh, God, with the relationship with Kurt

00:34:52.980 --> 00:34:55.480
Russell or his dad. Yeah. Like, that was heartbreaking.

00:34:55.739 --> 00:34:57.940
And what he found out about his mother, like...

00:34:57.940 --> 00:35:00.480
Yeah. Well, and also, like, Yondu's entire story

00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:02.820
arc there, too. Right. Oh, Yondu as well. Yeah.

00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:04.719
He had one of the best action scenes in that

00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:07.269
movie. That was sweet. Yep, yep, yep. Is anybody

00:35:07.269 --> 00:35:10.010
looking at Mary Poppins the same anymore? Absolutely

00:35:10.010 --> 00:35:14.510
not. Not my Mary Poppins. And then one last thing

00:35:14.510 --> 00:35:17.469
about Black Panther before I'll expand on Infinity

00:35:17.469 --> 00:35:22.210
War. My favorite Marvel scene ever is in the

00:35:22.210 --> 00:35:24.309
ancestral plane. Andre Bieber. We talked about

00:35:24.309 --> 00:35:26.809
this. In the ancestral plane when Killmonger

00:35:26.809 --> 00:35:29.909
goes. And he goes to the apartment in Oakland

00:35:29.909 --> 00:35:34.090
and Sterling Brown, his father, is there. They

00:35:34.090 --> 00:35:36.650
sit down and they talk, and it cuts back and

00:35:36.650 --> 00:35:39.849
forth. You can see emotions coming up in Michael

00:35:39.849 --> 00:35:41.809
B. Jordan's face, which is a great performance.

00:35:42.110 --> 00:35:44.610
They cut back to Strong K. Brown, and suddenly

00:35:44.610 --> 00:35:46.510
you go back to Killmonger, and he's a kid again.

00:35:46.670 --> 00:35:49.650
And I think that says everything about what his

00:35:49.650 --> 00:35:53.469
mission was. It was so rooted in everything that

00:35:53.469 --> 00:35:56.769
he believed in as a child, but now fully realized

00:35:56.769 --> 00:36:00.460
as... an mit educated killing machine right you

00:36:00.460 --> 00:36:03.400
know so it's it definitely stripped it down in

00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:05.960
terms of what was the root of everything because

00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:08.400
he could say this is about equipping black people

00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:11.099
around the world with the ability to you know

00:36:11.099 --> 00:36:13.579
build up their own communities and not rely on

00:36:13.579 --> 00:36:15.440
handouts and things like that which is great

00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:17.860
but at the end of the day this was personal this

00:36:17.860 --> 00:36:21.480
whole journey was personal for him and that that's

00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:23.739
when i realized holy crap marvel could actually

00:36:23.739 --> 00:36:26.619
say things and i i do love that because like

00:36:26.619 --> 00:36:30.699
even though he lost in the end yeah um he'll

00:36:30.699 --> 00:36:34.119
be back who knows maybe he will but no but um

00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:36.960
even though he lost in the end like the scene

00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.559
where they go to oakland after yeah and they

00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:41.760
like start this science center and everything

00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:43.760
like that. That was another thing where I was

00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:46.539
just like, he still kind of won. Yeah. Even though

00:36:46.539 --> 00:36:48.940
it wasn't the personal vendetta. Right. It was

00:36:48.940 --> 00:36:51.760
part of his mission. Yes. And now they understand

00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:54.420
that they can expand more. Yes. And I think that

00:36:54.420 --> 00:36:56.659
was T 'Challa's journey. It was. Yeah. It was

00:36:56.659 --> 00:36:58.239
his relationship with Killmonger that changed

00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:00.320
it because you could also say Lupita Nyong 'o's

00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.360
character had the same thoughts, but just in

00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:05.219
a less vicious way of going about bringing that

00:37:05.219 --> 00:37:09.159
change. Sure. So Infinity War. The reason why

00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:12.800
I freaking love this movie so much and partially

00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:15.719
why I liked Killmonger in Black Panther was how

00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:18.579
the villain was handled. Yes. Thanos is the protagonist

00:37:18.579 --> 00:37:20.980
of that movie. Absolutely. That movie goes in

00:37:20.980 --> 00:37:22.820
two different directions. It's either Thor winning

00:37:22.820 --> 00:37:25.760
or it's Thanos winning. It starts in that scene

00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:28.840
on the ship with the Asgardians. So it sets the

00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:31.860
tone like who is going to fight who at the end.

00:37:31.940 --> 00:37:35.340
They are setting that scene. Thor saying, you're

00:37:35.340 --> 00:37:37.440
going to pay for that. All that stuff that you

00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:39.880
had seen in a million movies before. But what

00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:43.039
I've never seen is a performance, a motion capture

00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.280
performance, probably outside of Andy Serkis,

00:37:45.340 --> 00:37:47.800
where I really fell for the character and completely

00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:50.059
forgot he was a 10 -foot -tall purple monster.

00:37:50.219 --> 00:37:52.119
You know? And I legitimately fell for it. You're

00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.219
fighting Grimace? What? Absolutely. And he had

00:37:55.219 --> 00:37:58.679
like a weird ball sack of a chin. And I still

00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.239
bought into that performance because it was so

00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:04.849
well constructed in terms of, what he was fighting

00:38:04.849 --> 00:38:07.469
for, to build up the relationship with him with

00:38:07.469 --> 00:38:10.170
Gamora, to show that the sacrifice he made to

00:38:10.170 --> 00:38:12.429
get the Soul Stone actually meant something to

00:38:12.429 --> 00:38:15.110
him. Even though it was deranged by our standards,

00:38:15.309 --> 00:38:17.309
it meant something for him. And we understood

00:38:17.309 --> 00:38:20.269
that. Oh, we totally felt that. We felt that.

00:38:20.389 --> 00:38:23.289
Yeah. Absolutely felt that. And then at the very,

00:38:23.329 --> 00:38:26.690
very end, they did not pull the punches, right?

00:38:26.809 --> 00:38:30.170
This guy got his Infinity Stones. Thor got cocky

00:38:30.170 --> 00:38:32.909
at the end. He wanted... He wanted revenge more

00:38:32.909 --> 00:38:35.769
so than he wanted to win. He wanted to see Thanos

00:38:35.769 --> 00:38:38.949
lose and squirm. And it was because of that the

00:38:38.949 --> 00:38:42.789
Avengers lost. So that snap and how they delivered

00:38:42.789 --> 00:38:46.269
on the promise from the very beginning. I was

00:38:46.269 --> 00:38:50.829
completely taken away by that. So I'd never seen

00:38:50.829 --> 00:38:53.630
a movie where with so many different characters

00:38:53.630 --> 00:38:57.070
move so seamlessly. There was never a point where

00:38:57.070 --> 00:38:59.690
it dragged. It had funny moments. There was definitely

00:38:59.690 --> 00:39:02.130
some heavy emotional moments. I saw this movie

00:39:02.130 --> 00:39:04.610
in theaters, I think, four times. Dang. All four

00:39:04.610 --> 00:39:08.670
times, I heard audible sniffling and crying when

00:39:08.670 --> 00:39:11.750
Spider -Man dies. It just shows. That is the

00:39:11.750 --> 00:39:13.949
peak of these movies. It's still well up, knowing

00:39:13.949 --> 00:39:17.570
it's coming. Exactly. It's one of those scenes

00:39:17.570 --> 00:39:21.050
that was so perfect. It's part of the acting,

00:39:21.170 --> 00:39:25.010
but it's also part of just... No. Yes. I wish

00:39:25.010 --> 00:39:28.510
I could bottle up that feeling and have it in

00:39:28.510 --> 00:39:30.309
a vacuum without knowing that he had a sequel

00:39:30.309 --> 00:39:34.230
already confirmed a year later. Because as soon

00:39:34.230 --> 00:39:37.320
as the credits rolled, I was like... Oh, that's

00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:38.940
right. He's going to be in a fucking, he's going

00:39:38.940 --> 00:39:40.599
to be in Far From Home. So, but whatever. The

00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:44.599
best part is, guys, that movie is building up

00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:47.059
the stuff that was already established in the

00:39:47.059 --> 00:39:49.019
previous films. So Spider -Man, for example,

00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.019
we love that so much because not only is he dying,

00:39:52.059 --> 00:39:54.360
if he died alone, it would not have been as effective,

00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:57.239
but he died in Iron Man's arms. Yes, right. And

00:39:57.239 --> 00:39:59.639
you get that father -son relationship between

00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:02.840
those two. Plus knowing his spider sense was

00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.409
going, he knew he was dying. There's a lot. going

00:40:06.409 --> 00:40:09.389
away yeah and Tony being helpless like he couldn't

00:40:09.389 --> 00:40:11.530
help the kid and there's so many great moments

00:40:11.530 --> 00:40:14.219
like that and the film absolutely loved it and

00:40:14.219 --> 00:40:17.880
I'm so happy that Endgame, I thought, delivered

00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:20.039
on the strong ending as well. For sure, yeah.

00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:21.940
All right, I'm looking at this top seven, and

00:40:21.940 --> 00:40:23.860
honestly, these are so close to me that they

00:40:23.860 --> 00:40:25.320
could be in any order, to be honest with you.

00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:27.860
That's how it feels with all of these. So with

00:40:27.860 --> 00:40:29.960
that said, I'm going to go with Captain America,

00:40:30.179 --> 00:40:32.840
The Winter Soldier at number seven, Avengers

00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:36.119
Endgame at six, Thor Ragnarok at five, Spider

00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:38.719
-Man Homecoming at four, The Avengers at three,

00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:40.519
Infinity War at two, Guardians of the Galaxy

00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:43.469
at one. Those top three specifically, You can

00:40:43.469 --> 00:40:45.329
shuffle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So those top three

00:40:45.329 --> 00:40:47.989
again. The Avengers for three, Infinity War,

00:40:48.110 --> 00:40:50.269
and then Guardians of the Galaxy. Perfect. Yeah.

00:40:50.489 --> 00:40:52.889
So Avengers, you have it the highest of all of

00:40:52.889 --> 00:40:55.809
us. Is that still nostalgia? Absolutely, yeah.

00:40:55.889 --> 00:41:00.650
I can't... If I were to say... It's... It is

00:41:00.650 --> 00:41:02.809
just all the moving experience. You know what

00:41:02.809 --> 00:41:05.269
I mean? Nothing is going to top... that first

00:41:05.269 --> 00:41:07.969
Avengers for me. That's the first ensemble hero

00:41:07.969 --> 00:41:10.090
movie that I saw that, like, that it worked,

00:41:10.190 --> 00:41:13.210
you know? They nailed everything, almost. Yeah,

00:41:13.349 --> 00:41:15.230
I mean, it is just a, it's a Joss Whedon -ass

00:41:15.230 --> 00:41:17.710
movie, you know? The dialogue is quippy, it's

00:41:17.710 --> 00:41:20.429
corny, it kind of codified that for the MCU to

00:41:20.429 --> 00:41:22.030
the point where it got, like, kind of memed to

00:41:22.030 --> 00:41:24.670
death, that they had to shift focus. I'm glad

00:41:24.670 --> 00:41:26.329
the Russo brothers kind of went in a semi -different,

00:41:26.409 --> 00:41:29.090
like, somewhat different direction. But, yeah,

00:41:29.210 --> 00:41:31.590
I don't know. That first movie hit really, like,

00:41:31.630 --> 00:41:33.409
that just was the perfect movie at the perfect

00:41:33.409 --> 00:41:36.260
time. absolutely you guys make me want to watch

00:41:36.260 --> 00:41:38.960
marvel movies like right now yeah right yeah

00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:41.400
it's yeah yeah that was just a huge inflection

00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:43.380
point for the series almost as much as endgame

00:41:43.380 --> 00:41:46.739
was uh but yeah it's yeah i don't know i can't

00:41:46.739 --> 00:41:48.820
really place it any lower okay i can't remember

00:41:48.820 --> 00:41:51.219
where you had it windsor soldier you had i think

00:41:51.219 --> 00:41:54.300
lower than everybody seven yeah um i had it at

00:41:54.300 --> 00:41:56.940
four yeah four yeah that's just because again

00:41:56.940 --> 00:41:59.500
it's just because i like the my personal slants

00:41:59.500 --> 00:42:01.889
i like those top six movies just a little bit

00:42:01.889 --> 00:42:03.949
more which is fair that's cater to my taste a

00:42:03.949 --> 00:42:05.510
little bit more that's the thing like i'm sitting

00:42:05.510 --> 00:42:07.769
here going my top 10 like i could interchange

00:42:07.769 --> 00:42:10.559
any of them yeah for sure like it's Literally

00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:14.159
from 10 to 11 was a huge drop -off for me. Yeah,

00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:16.880
I would agree. Yeah, definitely. I mean, Winter

00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:19.000
Soldier's great, and to Mitchell's point, it

00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:21.420
doesn't fall into the CGI, you know, fuckfest

00:42:21.420 --> 00:42:24.239
fight scenes, you know? Yeah. Well choreographed,

00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:25.960
and it's like a cool, fun spy thriller with a

00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:28.840
superhero story. And, yeah. That is a good part

00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:31.380
of Winter Soldier for me. Exactly right on that.

00:42:31.500 --> 00:42:35.730
Like, it's... Not as CGI because these two are

00:42:35.730 --> 00:42:39.429
very close combat battlers. You can have some

00:42:39.429 --> 00:42:41.190
actual fight choreography when you don't have

00:42:41.190 --> 00:42:43.849
laser beam superpowers, right? Iron Man's not

00:42:43.849 --> 00:42:47.110
firing a blaster at him. And even though that

00:42:47.110 --> 00:42:48.809
can work, we've seen it work. It totally can,

00:42:48.929 --> 00:42:51.530
dude. Yeah, we've seen it work. But it's one

00:42:51.530 --> 00:42:53.710
of those things where this one felt... Close,

00:42:53.750 --> 00:42:56.630
personal, and then you put in top. Oh, it's Bucky

00:42:56.630 --> 00:42:59.309
too? Dude. Holy hell. Also, shout out to the

00:42:59.309 --> 00:43:01.170
Winter Soldier's theme. That theme, like that

00:43:01.170 --> 00:43:03.150
industrial sound was just really, I don't know,

00:43:03.150 --> 00:43:05.710
that really took me into those fight scenes for

00:43:05.710 --> 00:43:10.869
sure. All right. Well, do you guys want to go

00:43:10.869 --> 00:43:14.429
through the process off mic and put all of our

00:43:14.429 --> 00:43:17.670
lists together? Battle it out. Do you think it's

00:43:17.670 --> 00:43:20.940
good we'll just post our own lists? Yeah. Well,

00:43:21.059 --> 00:43:23.179
I mean, we could do a composite. We could do

00:43:23.179 --> 00:43:25.119
a composite. There's an easy way to score it.

00:43:25.179 --> 00:43:29.619
Basically, if we go 1 through 22, 1 obviously

00:43:29.619 --> 00:43:31.780
being the highest, like golf, the lowest score

00:43:31.780 --> 00:43:35.320
has the higher up in the list. I would feel bad

00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:36.920
because I feel like some movies on my list would

00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:38.599
be inflated just because it's personal slant.

00:43:38.739 --> 00:43:41.719
Nothing wrong with that. These are humans making

00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:45.099
these lists. I guess so. We might have a composite

00:43:45.099 --> 00:43:47.619
list. We might have our own list. Who knows?

00:43:47.860 --> 00:43:52.300
We'll figure that out. Off mic. On now, this

00:43:52.300 --> 00:43:55.360
is your last chance. Yes. Spoilers. Yep. We are

00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:58.139
in the endgame now. Oh. The endgame. Oh, God.

00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.199
Oh, shit. We are going to talk Avengers Endgame.

00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:03.599
All right. Yes? Yes. All right. The culmination

00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:09.079
of the Infinity Saga. Mmm. Mmm. Tasty. Yeah.

00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:13.019
Yeah, all right. So, just last warning. We're

00:44:13.019 --> 00:44:14.300
going to need another beer for this. Last chance.

00:44:14.340 --> 00:44:16.000
Yeah, okay. Give me another beer. There's beer

00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:19.860
coming. Which means spoilers. Mike, you good?

00:44:20.099 --> 00:44:22.500
I will have another as well, please and thank

00:44:22.500 --> 00:44:24.460
you. What are you having another of, Mike? Oh,

00:44:24.500 --> 00:44:28.059
yes. I forgot to horn myself today. We are having

00:44:28.059 --> 00:44:30.659
Leinenkugel's Summer Shandy. Oh, so refreshing.

00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:33.719
A personal favorite. It tastes like happiness.

00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.780
It tastes like summer. Dude, having gone to a

00:44:36.780 --> 00:44:39.780
Leine brewery, I absolutely love this. It's like

00:44:39.780 --> 00:44:42.320
a wood cabin in the middle of nowhere. It's in

00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.280
Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin. Oh, goodness. Yeah.

00:44:45.340 --> 00:44:48.840
We ended up going. This is not personal, or this

00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:50.760
is definitely personal, but we ended up going

00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:53.219
when we were going to Minnesota TCU. They played

00:44:53.219 --> 00:44:55.659
in football. And so we drove up, went to Chippewa

00:44:55.659 --> 00:44:58.840
Falls. It was great. Yeah, so Leinenkugel, Summer

00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:00.900
Shandy. You know what else this beer tastes like?

00:45:01.300 --> 00:45:03.820
Endgame spoilers. Tastes like Endgame. Here we

00:45:03.820 --> 00:45:08.400
go. Iron Man, oh God. Why? I am Iron Man. So

00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:11.519
let's talk about this. What were your initial

00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:14.480
thoughts about Endgame? I would be really fucking

00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:16.500
dank if they never made another MCU episode.

00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:18.599
the two movies after this like I mean obviously

00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:20.659
Spider -Man comes out in two months these movies

00:45:20.659 --> 00:45:21.960
make money they're always going to make more

00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:25.039
but honestly you could cut off the Marvel Cinematic

00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:26.579
Universe at this point and I would be satisfied

00:45:26.579 --> 00:45:30.639
yeah I thought the very last the send -offs for

00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:32.760
Iron Man and for Captain America yeah I thought

00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:35.300
were very well done great that is a clear sign

00:45:35.300 --> 00:45:38.019
we are on to another phase yeah like we have

00:45:38.019 --> 00:45:39.800
the younger heroes like more than just this isn't

00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:42.099
just phase four this is a Oh, yeah. Different

00:45:42.099 --> 00:45:43.940
thing. This is completely different. This will

00:45:43.940 --> 00:45:46.179
be completely... Thor might be part of the Guardians

00:45:46.179 --> 00:45:48.300
now. I mean, like... As Guardians of the Galaxy.

00:45:48.900 --> 00:45:51.300
As Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah. I would actually

00:45:51.300 --> 00:45:53.739
love that as a title for part three. That was

00:45:53.739 --> 00:45:56.679
actually... I would love that, too. But... Trying

00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:59.579
to figure out how to convince Gamora to come

00:45:59.579 --> 00:46:02.619
back. Yes. Yeah. There is a... Like, yeah. I

00:46:02.619 --> 00:46:05.119
mean, they definitely left some, you know, loose

00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:08.900
ends for... the other characters to tie up. But

00:46:08.900 --> 00:46:11.679
in terms of Iron Man and his storyline, and then

00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:13.840
of course Captain America, who I thought had

00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:16.460
the... just the best and most fitting ending

00:46:16.460 --> 00:46:19.199
because of all the stuff that he had gone through

00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:21.420
being stuck in the ice and going through what

00:46:21.420 --> 00:46:23.699
he did in Winter Soldier to find out that S .H

00:46:23.699 --> 00:46:25.260
.I .E .L .D. was always Hydra and all that other

00:46:25.260 --> 00:46:28.659
stuff and putting his life on the line time and

00:46:28.659 --> 00:46:31.440
time again and he got to live a life. Yeah, he

00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:34.440
finally did something for himself which I loved.

00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:36.820
I loved that. I was worried when they introduced

00:46:36.820 --> 00:46:38.980
the time travel mechanic that like, oh, like

00:46:38.980 --> 00:46:41.880
Steve, I thought it was Steve going to be making

00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:44.019
the sacrifice play where it's like, We don't

00:46:44.019 --> 00:46:45.880
have enough Pym Particles to go back. I'm staying

00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:48.900
here. I thought he was going to stay in the 70s.

00:46:48.900 --> 00:46:51.260
Yes, exactly. Like with Agent Carter and everything

00:46:51.260 --> 00:46:55.019
like that. My whole thing was, and this was such

00:46:55.019 --> 00:46:58.260
a well thought out part of the plot, was Tony

00:46:58.260 --> 00:47:00.260
and Steve were always at odds with each other.

00:47:00.340 --> 00:47:02.119
This is the same thing in the comic books. They're

00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:03.880
just polar opposites when it comes to personalities,

00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:06.679
but they're both natural leaders. So the thing

00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.019
that they brought to the table that was different,

00:47:09.179 --> 00:47:12.119
Tony a little bit more cocksure and selfish.

00:47:12.650 --> 00:47:15.889
Where Cap was definitely the, you know, he's

00:47:15.889 --> 00:47:17.949
the guy who dives on the grenade. Right. As we

00:47:17.949 --> 00:47:21.730
saw in First Avenger. So what both endings for

00:47:21.730 --> 00:47:23.949
the characters shown me is that they learned

00:47:23.949 --> 00:47:26.150
something from the other. Yeah. Iron Man sacrificed

00:47:26.150 --> 00:47:28.969
himself. He dies, guys. He snaps everything.

00:47:29.349 --> 00:47:31.289
He snaps away all the damage. Turns out he was

00:47:31.289 --> 00:47:32.789
Iron Man this whole time. Snaps his fingers.

00:47:32.949 --> 00:47:35.329
Exactly. What a great ending. What a great last

00:47:35.329 --> 00:47:37.889
line to say. And then for Captain America, he

00:47:37.889 --> 00:47:40.190
did something, you know, on the selfish side.

00:47:40.309 --> 00:47:42.940
Yeah. And decided to live a life. A very full

00:47:42.940 --> 00:47:45.519
life, I'm sure. Oh, yeah, it seemed like it.

00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:47.000
It seemed like it. Yeah, he came back as Joe

00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:48.400
Biden. Yeah, I was about to say, he looked a

00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:52.380
lot like Joe Biden. Yeah, he did. Now I'm thinking

00:47:52.380 --> 00:47:54.780
about that. Yeah, he's going to be president.

00:47:55.340 --> 00:48:00.119
So there's a... In the Me Too movie, I'm not

00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:01.920
so sure about Joe Biden. Yeah, right. Sorry,

00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:07.400
I jumped ahead, I guess. We'll see. So with that

00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.239
being said, I absolutely love the ending. You

00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:12.409
could definitely call this fan service the movie,

00:48:12.550 --> 00:48:14.409
and I think that's completely appropriate, but

00:48:14.409 --> 00:48:16.050
I'm not complaining. No, definitely not. I don't

00:48:16.050 --> 00:48:17.750
think, it's definitely fan service -y, but in

00:48:17.750 --> 00:48:20.650
all the right ways, right? Hey. Let's hear it,

00:48:20.690 --> 00:48:23.210
Mike. Okay, I had some fan service. For sure.

00:48:23.329 --> 00:48:26.429
I got some notes. I have some notes for improvement

00:48:26.429 --> 00:48:29.550
for next time, for Endgame 2. Endgame 2, I think,

00:48:29.550 --> 00:48:33.150
yeah. No, I liked some of the stuff. So, when

00:48:33.150 --> 00:48:34.989
I originally heard time travel, I was kind of

00:48:34.989 --> 00:48:37.510
very skeptical. Sure. Just because, I mean, it's

00:48:37.510 --> 00:48:40.469
time travel, you know? Yeah. I didn't like the

00:48:40.469 --> 00:48:43.170
fact that they spent a lot of it going over their

00:48:43.170 --> 00:48:46.230
rules. It was not that they had rules. It was

00:48:46.230 --> 00:48:48.409
just like, oh, yeah, we can't do this because

00:48:48.409 --> 00:48:50.590
we create this timeline and this happens and

00:48:50.590 --> 00:48:52.429
this blah, blah, blah. You have to come back.

00:48:52.530 --> 00:48:55.050
Otherwise, there's this or whatever. Sure. So

00:48:55.050 --> 00:48:59.710
part of that is Captain Rogers being on that

00:48:59.710 --> 00:49:02.489
park bench and not coming back. Right. He started

00:49:02.489 --> 00:49:04.730
a whole new timeline, too. Right, he branched

00:49:04.730 --> 00:49:06.750
off. He branched off in the timeline. There's

00:49:06.750 --> 00:49:09.469
some, and I think one of the Russo brothers was

00:49:09.469 --> 00:49:12.250
asked that in an interview, and he kind of, I

00:49:12.250 --> 00:49:14.570
don't want to say he gave a political answer

00:49:14.570 --> 00:49:16.349
or whatever, but he was like, oh yeah, we left

00:49:16.349 --> 00:49:17.889
some of those open questions for the audience

00:49:17.889 --> 00:49:19.610
to figure out, which is kind of a cop -out answer.

00:49:19.650 --> 00:49:21.750
Oh, that's absolutely a cop -out answer. I would

00:49:21.750 --> 00:49:25.960
say with that, it's... Look, sometimes with these

00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:28.400
movies, it's the MCU. Yeah. I like to turn my

00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.860
brain off. Exactly. But I will say, there was

00:49:30.860 --> 00:49:34.539
a lot, my gripes in this movie, and there are

00:49:34.539 --> 00:49:36.460
some, are in the first two acts. And part of

00:49:36.460 --> 00:49:38.320
that is how they explain time travel, because

00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:40.739
holy crap, it's time travel. Right. There's a

00:49:40.739 --> 00:49:42.880
million ways to explain it, and they're all wrong.

00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.719
Right. Oh, yeah, yeah. That is the corner that

00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:47.539
you're riding yourself in if you're introducing

00:49:47.539 --> 00:49:50.280
this element. I did like how, at least they acknowledged

00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:51.840
that it was a little derivative by bringing it

00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:53.860
back to the future, too. Yeah, yeah. I was like,

00:49:53.900 --> 00:49:55.920
okay, you guys get it. You're in on it, I guess.

00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:57.860
To me, that was a real surprise. Don't gamble

00:49:57.860 --> 00:50:01.440
on sports. That kind of stuff. I get it, but

00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:04.960
for me, the time travel was hard to get around.

00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:08.519
That being said, what they did with the time

00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:10.679
travel was great because they just, like, recreated

00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:13.179
scenes from Avengers and stuff like that. Yeah.

00:50:13.539 --> 00:50:16.739
Yeah, I'm glad they weren't too worried. I was

00:50:16.739 --> 00:50:18.760
worried they'd be like, oh, Cap, you can't fight

00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:20.400
yourself. It's going to create a time paradox.

00:50:20.500 --> 00:50:23.119
You know, that's when I kind of rolled my eyes

00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.840
a little bit. He could fight because that's America's

00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:28.380
ass. That is America's ass. God damn, that was...

00:50:28.380 --> 00:50:30.619
Can we also talk about the fact that Cap swore

00:50:30.619 --> 00:50:32.400
more than any other character? Dude, I literally,

00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:34.300
when he said, let's go get this son of a bitch,

00:50:34.340 --> 00:50:37.079
I just said, language! Yeah, reflexively. I was

00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:40.480
like, whoa, wow. But that was like a, oh, Cap's

00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:42.880
pissed. Like, yeah, that's... I understand that,

00:50:42.940 --> 00:50:44.519
but there was other parts where he was just like,

00:50:44.619 --> 00:50:46.860
that's America's ass. He wouldn't say that. He'd

00:50:46.860 --> 00:50:49.539
say, that's America's butt. That's America's

00:50:49.539 --> 00:50:51.500
hindquarters. But this is the guy who's also

00:50:51.500 --> 00:50:54.639
seen so much death. Like, following Infinity

00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:57.559
War, this is a different dude. This is also a

00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.699
guy who also left the organization that he felt

00:51:00.699 --> 00:51:03.360
was helping the world, and he became a Nomad,

00:51:03.420 --> 00:51:05.440
right? Yeah. Which they did not call him formally,

00:51:05.579 --> 00:51:07.599
but that was the character that he took on. So,

00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:09.900
I think those are small signs of things that

00:51:09.900 --> 00:51:12.559
stuff has changed over time for Cap. For sure.

00:51:12.980 --> 00:51:16.199
Also, just going on with that beginning of him

00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:19.320
saying, bitch, there was also a very shocking

00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:23.429
scene. Immediately following that. Dude. Thanos

00:51:23.429 --> 00:51:25.750
gets his head chopped off. He immediately gets

00:51:25.750 --> 00:51:28.570
eaten like 20 minutes, like 15 minutes in. That

00:51:28.570 --> 00:51:31.610
was awesome. Yeah. Like, what have you done?

00:51:31.710 --> 00:51:35.630
I went for the head. Yeah, and it's just five

00:51:35.630 --> 00:51:37.929
years later. Okay. Wait, what? We're just going

00:51:37.929 --> 00:51:39.989
to accept this? Yeah. Dude, that text crawl was

00:51:39.989 --> 00:51:41.750
so perfectly timed too with the five and then

00:51:41.750 --> 00:51:44.610
with the beat. Yep. Years later. You're like,

00:51:44.690 --> 00:51:46.710
oh, five weeks, five months. Oh, shit. Yeah.

00:51:46.769 --> 00:51:49.170
See, I knew where they were going with it. It's

00:51:49.170 --> 00:51:52.800
still a good beat though. But anyways. I'm nitpicking.

00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:55.099
If you're laying it out there, what fun is there

00:51:55.099 --> 00:51:56.920
in doing that? You know what I mean? Like, oh,

00:51:56.980 --> 00:51:58.880
five months, cool. Five years, cool. Like, no.

00:51:59.059 --> 00:52:01.500
They made it dramatic. Which is fair. They're

00:52:01.500 --> 00:52:05.829
making a movie. So I thought it was good. And

00:52:05.829 --> 00:52:08.750
it was completely justified with how we saw Thor

00:52:08.750 --> 00:52:10.690
react at the end of Infinity War. For sure. Yeah,

00:52:10.750 --> 00:52:13.309
definitely. Completely justified. So it didn't

00:52:13.309 --> 00:52:14.989
come out of nowhere. Can we also talk about how

00:52:14.989 --> 00:52:17.909
Thor was then the worst part of the movie? No.

00:52:18.150 --> 00:52:21.789
Wait, I'm defending this. I'm going to defend

00:52:21.789 --> 00:52:25.469
Thor. I think talking Hulk was the worst part

00:52:25.469 --> 00:52:28.260
of the movie. It's Professor Hulk! There was

00:52:28.260 --> 00:52:31.440
a comic book storyline of this. Mike, I read

00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:34.039
that comic book storyline. It is 90s nostalgia.

00:52:34.059 --> 00:52:36.480
It is also stuff that I did not think worked.

00:52:36.579 --> 00:52:39.360
Guys, the best part of Hulk is the fact that

00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:41.480
there is this dichotomy of a guy who is also

00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:44.079
smart, but also becomes a fucking rage monster.

00:52:44.219 --> 00:52:47.119
And we didn't get to see really either, in my

00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:49.179
opinion. I just imagine you're just with Valkyrie

00:52:49.179 --> 00:52:51.119
on this one. You're just like, I like either

00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:53.280
version of you. Yeah, like when Tessa Thompson

00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:55.800
said that, I'm like, okay, me and Tessa, okay,

00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:57.929
cool. It led to one of my favorite scenes in

00:52:57.929 --> 00:53:00.150
the movie. Wait, wait. Did you get the selfie

00:53:00.150 --> 00:53:02.010
with the kids? No, no, no. Not the selfie with

00:53:02.010 --> 00:53:04.190
the kids, although that was good. When he gives

00:53:04.190 --> 00:53:07.769
Ant -Man his taco. That was a cute scene. That

00:53:07.769 --> 00:53:10.210
was also good, but also not the thing. What is

00:53:10.210 --> 00:53:12.610
the thing? The thing is when they're back in

00:53:12.610 --> 00:53:14.469
time in the Avengers thing, and they're just

00:53:14.469 --> 00:53:15.969
like, we need to get to the top of that tower.

00:53:16.230 --> 00:53:19.989
And he's like, or Captain America goes, maybe

00:53:19.989 --> 00:53:25.000
smash some stuff. reluctantly rips off his shirt

00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:28.380
yeah he's like okay and he's like uh smash and

00:53:28.380 --> 00:53:32.280
like throws a motorcycle and like I love that

00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:34.099
I thought that was great I thought the funnier

00:53:34.099 --> 00:53:37.300
part was when we saw old Hulk like beating the

00:53:37.300 --> 00:53:39.780
shit out of the this whatever they're called

00:53:39.780 --> 00:53:42.239
like A couple minutes before that little scene.

00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:45.599
Oh, the Chutari? Yeah, the Chutari. Jesus Christ.

00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:51.079
Fuck these movies. Again. Rock, Chutari. This

00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:56.059
is great. My dad's a planet. This is all great.

00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.900
There's so much love. I will defend Fat Thor.

00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:05.239
tree. Yeah, exactly. There's Bradley Cooper is

00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:08.619
voicing a raccoon. Vin Diesel's a tree that says

00:54:08.619 --> 00:54:10.840
three words. He's putting a lot of emotional

00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:12.860
weight with those three words, man. Anyways,

00:54:12.980 --> 00:54:16.980
so yeah, in defense of Fat Thor, I thought it

00:54:16.980 --> 00:54:19.559
was dope. Okay, so at first when I was like...

00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:20.980
They stuck with it. Yeah, they stuck with it.

00:54:20.980 --> 00:54:25.519
They didn't take the easy way out. Yeah, because

00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:27.579
I was so worried. I'm like, oh man, during the

00:54:27.579 --> 00:54:29.219
final battle, when he's like, let's kill him

00:54:29.219 --> 00:54:31.400
properly this time, which was bad. Badass. I

00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:33.039
thought they were just going to, like, call some

00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:34.860
lightning and he was going to get six pack again.

00:54:35.059 --> 00:54:37.460
Bitch tail. Yeah. I thought that was going to

00:54:37.460 --> 00:54:39.880
happen, too. I'm okay that they stuck with it.

00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:42.800
My problem was just the entire thing. I didn't

00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:44.260
buy it. I was just like, no. You didn't buy it?

00:54:44.340 --> 00:54:46.300
You didn't buy it? So, well, I mean, like, I

00:54:46.300 --> 00:54:49.239
bought it in the fact that. in the beginning

00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:51.639
where he was like depressed and stuff like that

00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:53.280
and he was hanging out with Korg and Meek and

00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:55.559
they're playing Fortnite which is very forced

00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:58.440
I did not like that thing at all that is definitely

00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:01.420
like hey 13 year old kids also Fortnite is doing

00:55:01.420 --> 00:55:03.619
a crossover like you can get Avengers weapons

00:55:03.619 --> 00:55:05.579
in the game right now they did it last year wait

00:55:05.579 --> 00:55:09.199
time out do these movies Try to make money? Yeah,

00:55:09.260 --> 00:55:11.019
right. No, that's what I'm saying. You could

00:55:11.019 --> 00:55:13.280
play as Thanos in Fortnite last year. Yeah, last

00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:15.340
year. You could also do this as Thanos. You could

00:55:15.340 --> 00:55:17.340
also floss as Thanos. That was pretty great.

00:55:17.420 --> 00:55:18.900
And I'm doing this thing. Yeah, you're doing

00:55:18.900 --> 00:55:21.139
Orange Justice. I hate myself that I know that.

00:55:21.260 --> 00:55:23.340
I know, I should have. Guys, if you don't know

00:55:23.340 --> 00:55:25.219
what Orange Justice is, it's fine. It's this

00:55:25.219 --> 00:55:27.519
thing. Where you cross your arms back and forth

00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:30.059
and go up and down. Anyways, why would you be

00:55:30.059 --> 00:55:32.179
playing? Oh yes, it's this thing. I would have

00:55:32.179 --> 00:55:34.800
a hard time being convinced that Fortnite would

00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:37.260
be a relevant game five years from now with half

00:55:37.260 --> 00:55:38.659
the world. world's population that's just me

00:55:38.659 --> 00:55:41.219
i don't know sure oh you're saying like it is

00:55:41.219 --> 00:55:43.840
oh that's fair time stamping itself in 2019 it's

00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:45.760
time stamping itself in 2019 and then technically

00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:47.119
this movie is supposed to take place in like

00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:49.360
2024 because like this part of the movie because

00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:51.320
it's five years later right oh wow you're really

00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:54.780
thinking into this i am no like i did not think

00:55:54.780 --> 00:55:57.300
into that well no but like it wasn't like like

00:55:57.300 --> 00:56:00.260
but Right. That's just one of those, like, it's

00:56:00.260 --> 00:56:01.659
fine that they put it in there, I guess. Why

00:56:01.659 --> 00:56:03.500
are we talking Fortnite so much on this? Wait,

00:56:03.739 --> 00:56:05.380
did they call it Fortnite, by the way? It clearly

00:56:05.380 --> 00:56:07.340
was. They didn't say the word Fortnite. I don't

00:56:07.340 --> 00:56:08.280
think they ever said it. Yeah, I'm interested

00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:09.639
to see if they actually name -dropped it. I don't

00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:11.260
think they name -dropped it. They showed gameplay

00:56:11.260 --> 00:56:12.820
footage of it, though. Right. Oh, absolutely.

00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:14.639
It was just fine. Whatever. And the username

00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:16.639
was something something 69, which I thought was

00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:18.559
quite classic. Yeah, that was good. That was

00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:20.960
on point. Momlover69 or something. Was it Momlover?

00:56:20.980 --> 00:56:23.380
It was something like that, though. That's on

00:56:23.380 --> 00:56:26.320
brand. That is on brand. No, no, that was perfect.

00:56:26.619 --> 00:56:28.960
100 % on brand. So, okay, anyway, so you didn't

00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.519
like fat, anxious Thor. Why don't you like fat,

00:56:31.579 --> 00:56:33.659
anxious Thor? I don't know if it was anxious

00:56:33.659 --> 00:56:37.260
Thor. It was fat. It was fat. It was fat. He

00:56:37.260 --> 00:56:38.920
was having, he was literally having, like, a

00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:41.059
panic attack, like, in Asgard when he's, like,

00:56:41.099 --> 00:56:42.639
well, not panic attack, but, like, he's, like.

00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:45.969
New Asgard. What? No, no, no. Back to time. When

00:56:45.969 --> 00:56:49.210
they go to the dark world. Yeah, but that was

00:56:49.210 --> 00:56:53.429
also because he was having an identity crisis

00:56:53.429 --> 00:56:56.130
with himself because he saw Jane. Yeah. Yes.

00:56:56.449 --> 00:56:58.489
And his mother. Yes. And his mother. Yeah. Which

00:56:58.489 --> 00:57:01.000
one? But I don't think that was related to Thanos

00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:03.159
in any way. I think that was just related to

00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:05.820
seeing her alive, knowing she couldn't die. I

00:57:05.820 --> 00:57:07.500
feel like it was kind of a conflict, I think.

00:57:07.500 --> 00:57:09.079
It was that, and then it was also, like, how

00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:10.719
can I face them right now? Like, with, like,

00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:12.679
I'm a failure, you know? Like, yeah, how I look,

00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:15.059
like, I'm a failure. Like, it's... Okay. Yeah.

00:57:15.219 --> 00:57:17.519
I'll be honest. Just for me, Thor was the worst

00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:21.519
part. Okay. That's for me. Okay. That's a good

00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:25.980
defense. Yeah, just for me. Yeah, right. It's

00:57:25.980 --> 00:57:28.519
subjective. I mean, look, they made a choice.

00:57:28.619 --> 00:57:30.280
They definitely made a choice. And if you're

00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:31.980
like looking for, if you're waiting for Thor

00:57:31.980 --> 00:57:34.480
to kick some ass, like... I could see how that

00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:36.219
would be disappointing for sure. See, we were

00:57:36.219 --> 00:57:38.320
talking about our first 45 minutes were all subjective

00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:40.519
and now I can't be subjective about this movie?

00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:42.500
God damn you guys! Well, I just want to hear

00:57:42.500 --> 00:57:44.719
a reason why. Like, I guess that's why. Okay,

00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:48.000
so I just thought he was oafish and just like

00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:50.059
a buffoon and like they were going... Check,

00:57:50.059 --> 00:57:51.980
check, check. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Agreed. But I

00:57:51.980 --> 00:57:54.989
don't... I don't think that's Thor. I don't think

00:57:54.989 --> 00:57:58.150
that's who he is. And so that was the issue for

00:57:58.150 --> 00:58:00.750
me. Yeah, I can see that. Even if he's having

00:58:00.750 --> 00:58:03.110
an identity crisis, that kind of thing, he's

00:58:03.110 --> 00:58:05.449
not going to go oafish and buffoonish just because

00:58:05.449 --> 00:58:08.909
he drinks a lot. He drank a lot before and didn't

00:58:08.909 --> 00:58:11.210
really get drunk because he's also an Asgardian.

00:58:11.710 --> 00:58:14.050
Well, he did get drunk. Captain America can't

00:58:14.050 --> 00:58:15.550
get drunk. No, Captain America can't get drunk,

00:58:15.650 --> 00:58:16.769
but Thor can definitely get drunk. He famously

00:58:16.769 --> 00:58:20.409
said that in First Avenger. I thought Thor hasn't

00:58:20.409 --> 00:58:22.530
gotten drunk before. Has he not? No. Because

00:58:22.530 --> 00:58:24.550
there's that Doctor Strange thing where he just

00:58:24.550 --> 00:58:26.789
keeps filling up his beer. Well, he definitely

00:58:26.789 --> 00:58:29.530
has. He can pound a couple back before he gets

00:58:29.530 --> 00:58:33.719
drunk. It's just that... I thought it was kind

00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:35.639
of like a good reflection on his character, almost,

00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:39.179
where, like, in Thor 1, like, when he gets humbled,

00:58:39.300 --> 00:58:41.280
he gets angry about it and pouty, you know? Kind

00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:43.219
of like a child, right? Yeah. And then he got

00:58:43.219 --> 00:58:47.579
humbled hard in Affinity War, and it made him

00:58:47.579 --> 00:58:49.139
just self -loathing, almost, you know? It was

00:58:49.139 --> 00:58:52.219
kind of... And they clearly took cues from Ragnarok

00:58:52.219 --> 00:58:55.099
in terms of how... being humbled would look because

00:58:55.099 --> 00:58:58.019
they went towards the goofy side which I think

00:58:58.019 --> 00:59:00.179
is probably your gripe with it where Thor is

00:59:00.179 --> 00:59:03.099
definitely in Infinity War he was the force that

00:59:03.099 --> 00:59:06.030
was going to stop Thanos and now suddenly there's

00:59:06.030 --> 00:59:07.789
no fucking way this guy's going to beat Thanos.

00:59:07.809 --> 00:59:10.510
So I can totally get that. Like the night and

00:59:10.510 --> 00:59:13.190
day comparison between what he was in part one

00:59:13.190 --> 00:59:14.590
versus part two, if you want to call it that.

00:59:14.650 --> 00:59:17.389
Yeah. Honestly, this is a little cheese whiz,

00:59:17.389 --> 00:59:20.409
but I also think it's kind of, yeah, where it's,

00:59:20.409 --> 00:59:24.670
yeah, it's, it kind of sends a cool message that

00:59:24.670 --> 00:59:26.550
like, hey, like he didn't, he didn't get his

00:59:26.550 --> 00:59:31.480
fucking like male model body back. He's still

00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:33.719
doing Fortnite dances. Sorry. I'm having a good

00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:35.579
time over here. Because it kind of shows, like,

00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:37.340
hey, like, you know, even if you're not, like,

00:59:37.340 --> 00:59:38.739
at your best physically, you can still fucking

00:59:38.739 --> 00:59:40.400
do your part, you know? Like, he's still, like,

00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:43.340
at the end. What? No. Do your part. No, but,

00:59:43.420 --> 00:59:45.019
like, he still fucking showed up, and he still

00:59:45.019 --> 00:59:46.840
tried his best, and he still helped, you know?

00:59:46.980 --> 00:59:49.079
Claire loved the fishtail beard that he had.

00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:51.079
Fishtail beard. I actually, I actually pretty

00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:52.960
saw it on the team. I laughed out loud when that

00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:55.199
happened. Yeah. That was what the lightning did?

00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:57.360
Like, that is what the lightning did. Yeah, yeah,

00:59:57.360 --> 00:59:59.250
yeah, yeah. That was pretty sweet. Now, that

00:59:59.250 --> 01:00:01.829
being said, I like the look. It wasn't about

01:00:01.829 --> 01:00:03.449
the look. It was just that's what the lightning

01:00:03.449 --> 01:00:06.869
did. Yeah, it's hilarious. Okay, so I'm going

01:00:06.869 --> 01:00:08.809
back to the fan service -y thing. Sure. There's

01:00:08.809 --> 01:00:12.070
a lot. There is. I want to know your opinion.

01:00:12.369 --> 01:00:15.010
So, obviously, in the final battle, they're trying

01:00:15.010 --> 01:00:17.329
to get the gauntlet across the way. Gauntlet

01:00:17.329 --> 01:00:19.309
relay race, yeah. The gauntlet relay race, exactly.

01:00:19.789 --> 01:00:21.889
There's a part where Spider -Man falls down,

01:00:21.969 --> 01:00:25.150
and all the female Avengers stand in front of

01:00:25.150 --> 01:00:27.559
him. That was so on the nose, dude. Like, I did

01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:29.860
not like that. I was wondering your thoughts

01:00:29.860 --> 01:00:33.639
on that. Yeah, so you could see clear as day

01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:35.699
what they were trying to say. Yeah, I agree.

01:00:35.860 --> 01:00:39.239
They're also saying that all the female superheroes

01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:41.820
were fighting in one cluster. Right, that's a

01:00:41.820 --> 01:00:44.119
little weird. I mean, like, look. That's fine.

01:00:44.139 --> 01:00:46.000
That's my hard part. Exactly. To me, it's like,

01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:49.000
it's... It's just a nod, you know, I guess. It's

01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:51.099
the nod of like, hey, I think it's definitely,

01:00:51.219 --> 01:00:53.039
this is what the future of these movies could

01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:55.300
look like. Yes, for sure. And that's what I want.

01:00:55.420 --> 01:00:57.519
Here are all the young heroes that are taking

01:00:57.519 --> 01:00:59.500
over the mantle. Give me an all -female -backed

01:00:59.500 --> 01:01:01.920
Avengers cast. Now, that being said, I wonder,

01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:03.480
because one of the people in there was Gwyneth

01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:07.940
Paltrow in the Iron Woman suit. What's her name

01:01:07.940 --> 01:01:10.840
again? Pepper. Well, no, sorry, the suit name.

01:01:11.219 --> 01:01:13.579
I don't know. It's like a specific... Iron Pepper.

01:01:14.059 --> 01:01:17.400
Iron Pepper. Iron Pots? Iron Pots. Iron Pots!

01:01:17.820 --> 01:01:20.519
That's pretty good. That's solid, man. I'm just

01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:22.860
going with Iron Woman just because. Iron Maiden.

01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:27.780
I like that better. I like that better. No! Have

01:01:27.780 --> 01:01:29.639
you heard of that? So Iron Maiden, is she taking

01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:31.579
over? Rescue is her name, sorry. Rescue? Yeah,

01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:35.760
Rescue. Rough name. Iron Maiden was on the table.

01:01:35.860 --> 01:01:39.920
Yeah, I know, but... Guys. Or Iron Potts. Iron

01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:44.639
Potts. Anyways, so Iron Potts. Do we think she's

01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:46.400
taking over? Is she going to be in this next

01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:48.670
phase? How much are you going to... pay Gwyneth

01:01:48.670 --> 01:01:52.469
Paltrow for her time. Yeah, for sure. I had that

01:01:52.469 --> 01:01:54.550
question because all of them seemed like the

01:01:54.550 --> 01:01:58.289
young taking over. And so it was one of those

01:01:58.289 --> 01:01:59.489
things where I was kind of like, we're going

01:01:59.489 --> 01:02:02.050
to see them all in another movie except for Gwyneth

01:02:02.050 --> 01:02:04.230
Paltrow. Yeah, you could write it both ways where

01:02:04.230 --> 01:02:05.469
you can easily see your character just being

01:02:05.469 --> 01:02:07.949
like, hey, I just lost my husband. I am going

01:02:07.949 --> 01:02:10.829
to just go to my family life now. Which you should.

01:02:10.929 --> 01:02:12.750
Yeah, for sure. And that would be a totally convincing

01:02:12.750 --> 01:02:17.280
plot point, I think. I will say this. this is

01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:19.219
three white guys talking right now for sure so

01:02:19.219 --> 01:02:21.659
yeah my little sister is probably looking at

01:02:21.659 --> 01:02:24.179
that scene and yeah exactly completely have a

01:02:24.179 --> 01:02:26.119
different thing yeah because there's so many

01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:27.980
people that will like see the little like you

01:02:27.980 --> 01:02:29.860
know 20 second sequence and be fucking stoked

01:02:29.860 --> 01:02:31.940
and that's awesome I know people that are that

01:02:31.940 --> 01:02:34.639
way and like great great for them they've seen

01:02:35.549 --> 01:02:37.949
what it can be now, you know, like that kind

01:02:37.949 --> 01:02:40.170
of thing. And that's great. I'm happy they had

01:02:40.170 --> 01:02:42.150
that scene. So Marvel's opening the doors for

01:02:42.150 --> 01:02:44.190
new stories to be told, and I'm so down for that.

01:02:44.210 --> 01:02:46.230
Yeah, for sure. But I felt like they were trying

01:02:46.230 --> 01:02:48.949
to rehash that Avengers moment from the first

01:02:48.949 --> 01:02:50.889
one where they have that pan around them where

01:02:50.889 --> 01:02:52.710
they're in New York, like that iconic, which

01:02:52.710 --> 01:02:55.809
they brought back. That was also good in Age

01:02:55.809 --> 01:02:57.769
of Ultron, too, in that first fight. Oh, the

01:02:57.769 --> 01:02:59.230
splash. Oh, the very first splash. Yeah, yeah,

01:02:59.230 --> 01:03:00.710
yeah. That was cool, too. That was, like, everybody's

01:03:00.710 --> 01:03:03.130
Facebook timeline photo for, like, six months

01:03:03.130 --> 01:03:04.949
or something like that. It was so great. It was

01:03:04.949 --> 01:03:07.489
really good. The way it's splashed around everything,

01:03:07.750 --> 01:03:10.050
it's just, like, there's some parts where I'm

01:03:10.050 --> 01:03:12.010
like, okay, that was cool, and there's some parts

01:03:12.010 --> 01:03:13.909
where I'm like, why'd you do that? Civil War

01:03:13.909 --> 01:03:16.949
is a big one for me. With the airport? No, not

01:03:16.949 --> 01:03:21.010
with the airport, even. The Iron Man versus Captain

01:03:21.010 --> 01:03:25.269
America fight, where he... At the very end. At

01:03:25.269 --> 01:03:26.949
the very end? Yes. Okay, gotcha. At the very

01:03:26.949 --> 01:03:29.789
end where he shoots the laser at him and Captain

01:03:29.789 --> 01:03:31.969
America like holds it and it's just through this

01:03:31.969 --> 01:03:34.710
pillar. You see this scene. Yep, yep. And it's

01:03:34.710 --> 01:03:37.929
like recreating the cover of Civil War where

01:03:37.929 --> 01:03:39.789
they had that fight or whatever, like the panel.

01:03:39.989 --> 01:03:42.659
Yep. And that was like... on the nose for me.

01:03:42.699 --> 01:03:45.260
Okay. I still love Civil War, but that one was

01:03:45.260 --> 01:03:47.659
on the nose for me. Versus like the Age of Ultron

01:03:47.659 --> 01:03:50.019
one I actually really liked. I don't know. Avengers

01:03:50.019 --> 01:03:52.320
one I liked where they pan around them and everything.

01:03:52.619 --> 01:03:54.920
I honestly live for those hype anime moments

01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:59.239
for sure. Yeah. And then that final, that whole,

01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:00.880
like that relay race, that whole entire battle

01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:03.539
scene was filled with those. Oh yeah. Honestly,

01:04:03.579 --> 01:04:06.360
the best five second shot was Iron Potts and

01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:08.519
Iron Man like back to back shooting lasers at

01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:11.000
everything. That was awesome. It's happening.

01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:13.579
Yeah. It's such a great time watching that. And

01:04:13.579 --> 01:04:17.840
I loved watching when Spider -Man is on Valkyrie's

01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:21.300
horse. The Pegasus. The Pegasus, yeah. And they're

01:04:21.300 --> 01:04:23.159
just flying through. I love that scene. I thought

01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:24.579
that was great because he's like all of a sudden,

01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:28.360
what the fuck? What's going on? That's the best

01:04:28.360 --> 01:04:30.420
part. He is such an avatar for the audience.

01:04:30.579 --> 01:04:33.219
He is. He's so fresh into this entire world.

01:04:33.300 --> 01:04:35.300
Right. Where he's like, I just learned that time

01:04:35.300 --> 01:04:37.780
wizards exist. Oh, now there's a flying horse.

01:04:37.980 --> 01:04:41.170
Right. Like, hey Mr. Stark. like, Dr. Strange

01:04:41.170 --> 01:04:42.750
just showed back up, and he said it's been five

01:04:42.750 --> 01:04:44.530
years, and he said he needed us, so we're here.

01:04:44.610 --> 01:04:45.849
And then he just gives him a hug, and I was like,

01:04:45.889 --> 01:04:48.670
oh, that's so good. And he's like, well, that's

01:04:48.670 --> 01:04:51.590
nice. Yeah, that's nice. It goes back to Homecoming

01:04:51.590 --> 01:04:53.610
when he just wanted to hug at the limo. Yeah.

01:04:54.130 --> 01:04:56.289
Anyways. Oh, man, I thought that was great. Yeah.

01:04:56.710 --> 01:04:59.400
All right, Tom Holland. Dude, I'm so excited

01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:02.940
for Far From Home. Yeah, dude, I'm excited, but

01:05:02.940 --> 01:05:04.420
I also need to keep my expectations in check

01:05:04.420 --> 01:05:06.239
because I know it's not going to be the same

01:05:06.239 --> 01:05:08.139
lightning in the bottle for me as Homecoming.

01:05:08.260 --> 01:05:10.760
No, there's no way. Yeah. I'm keeping it low.

01:05:12.010 --> 01:05:14.429
Just because what I've seen of Mysterio, I'm

01:05:14.429 --> 01:05:17.789
not a big fan of. He might be a hero. Like the

01:05:17.789 --> 01:05:20.730
more I'm watching the trailer, he might be on

01:05:20.730 --> 01:05:22.150
Spider -Man. So I'm wondering if they're going

01:05:22.150 --> 01:05:23.989
to pull the rug out. No, I think they're going

01:05:23.989 --> 01:05:26.170
to pull the rug out in that he's causing the

01:05:26.170 --> 01:05:28.269
natural disasters and saving people for notoriety.

01:05:29.190 --> 01:05:31.670
That's my thing. Ooh. That's what I would think.

01:05:31.750 --> 01:05:34.090
Hashtag spoilers for Far From Home? Maybe. Yeah,

01:05:34.090 --> 01:05:35.550
I don't know. Potential spoilers? That seems

01:05:35.550 --> 01:05:37.130
like a very mysterious thing to do. I feel like

01:05:37.130 --> 01:05:39.550
Scorpion's gonna come in this somehow because...

01:05:39.550 --> 01:05:42.469
Scorpion, hmm. But do you remember that end credit

01:05:42.469 --> 01:05:44.469
scene? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Where he

01:05:44.469 --> 01:05:45.789
was in jail with Vulture and Vulture didn't give

01:05:45.789 --> 01:05:48.849
the information up or whatever? Yep, yep. I need

01:05:48.849 --> 01:05:51.409
to rewatch that. Yeah, so there's the end credit

01:05:51.409 --> 01:05:54.150
scene, and it's obviously Scorpion. Right, right.

01:05:54.309 --> 01:05:57.170
Yeah. The end credit scene I remember is the

01:05:57.170 --> 01:05:58.750
Captain America one. Yeah, that was a good one.

01:05:58.869 --> 01:06:00.630
That one was so good. That was still my favorite.

01:06:00.750 --> 01:06:03.570
Yeah. That's a top tier end credit scene. Yeah,

01:06:03.590 --> 01:06:05.949
yeah, yeah. And then end credit was the greatest

01:06:05.949 --> 01:06:08.510
one of all time, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So,

01:06:08.670 --> 01:06:11.320
that's attention. We didn't rank. End scenes,

01:06:11.500 --> 01:06:13.619
guys. Oh, man. We need to rank end scenes and

01:06:13.619 --> 01:06:16.699
Stanley cameos. Oh, crap. We could go on with

01:06:16.699 --> 01:06:18.559
that. We could go on. Those are two other podcasts

01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:22.079
right there. Yeah, this one, I'm letting it go

01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:24.179
as long as possible because really, let's just

01:06:24.179 --> 01:06:27.420
get our thoughts out about Endgame. Okay. I did,

01:06:27.500 --> 01:06:29.820
I will say, kind of totally, on a totally different

01:06:29.820 --> 01:06:32.340
note, I actually liked the first act a lot in

01:06:32.340 --> 01:06:35.380
terms of, as they introduced time travel, but

01:06:35.380 --> 01:06:37.119
they at least made it feel kind of earned how

01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:39.059
they got to it. You know, like, I kind of liked

01:06:39.059 --> 01:06:42.000
that, kind of, like, 15 -ish minutes where they're

01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:44.500
like, okay, like, Tony's in on the plan, we need

01:06:44.500 --> 01:06:46.320
to figure this out, let's figure out the right,

01:06:46.420 --> 01:06:48.940
like, places to get those, get those, uh, those

01:06:48.940 --> 01:06:50.840
Infinity Stones. And so, like, it's kind of like

01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:53.150
the last... not the last two Ra for all these

01:06:53.150 --> 01:06:55.570
characters together, but it's, you can see how

01:06:55.570 --> 01:06:57.670
much they're trying, and you can kind of tell

01:06:57.670 --> 01:07:00.070
that, like, oh, man, like, they're happier now

01:07:00.070 --> 01:07:02.150
because they have something to do, you know?

01:07:02.150 --> 01:07:03.789
Like, they have something to push forward towards.

01:07:04.070 --> 01:07:06.489
Something to move on from. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

01:07:06.570 --> 01:07:08.050
yeah, yeah. And I thought it was well -written

01:07:08.050 --> 01:07:10.489
in terms of, like, even before we got to Endgame,

01:07:10.610 --> 01:07:13.329
like, Hank Pym being gone is a big deal. Like,

01:07:13.349 --> 01:07:15.469
it is a big deal because you only have X amount

01:07:15.469 --> 01:07:17.710
of Pym particles at this point. Right. I did

01:07:17.710 --> 01:07:20.110
like that part. You know? So you could tell that

01:07:20.110 --> 01:07:21.829
overall, whether that's... that's Kevin Feige

01:07:21.829 --> 01:07:24.170
overlooking this, or if they just had the writers

01:07:24.170 --> 01:07:27.409
really sit down and consider who are all the

01:07:27.409 --> 01:07:30.130
players who could potentially be an endgame and

01:07:30.130 --> 01:07:32.449
who should not be an endgame, and for them to

01:07:32.449 --> 01:07:36.210
make those choices before they even start filming,

01:07:36.289 --> 01:07:38.309
I thought was a really big deal. For sure. So,

01:07:38.309 --> 01:07:39.849
yeah, I thought everything was earned, and I

01:07:39.849 --> 01:07:42.309
love the... the way that Scott Lang had a much

01:07:42.309 --> 01:07:45.030
bigger role in this. Arguably bigger than he

01:07:45.030 --> 01:07:48.570
had in Ant -Man and the Wasp. You know what I

01:07:48.570 --> 01:07:51.090
mean? That's why I said, dude, I need to go see

01:07:51.090 --> 01:07:55.030
some Ant -Man right now. This movie, more than

01:07:55.030 --> 01:07:57.309
Civil War, totally sold me on his character.

01:07:57.309 --> 01:08:00.809
Did you feel confused at all? No. You guys gave

01:08:00.809 --> 01:08:02.489
me the lowdown, though, on what happened at the

01:08:02.489 --> 01:08:04.829
end. As soon as it panned to that car, I was

01:08:04.829 --> 01:08:06.110
like, okay, this is at the end of Ant -Man and

01:08:06.110 --> 01:08:09.929
the Wasp. Okay, got it. That was fine. There

01:08:09.929 --> 01:08:12.550
seemed to be one moment where Evangeline Lilly

01:08:12.550 --> 01:08:14.309
was like, you got it, Captain. And they look

01:08:14.309 --> 01:08:16.090
at each other and give them a knowing glance.

01:08:16.329 --> 01:08:18.310
That must have been a reference to something.

01:08:18.449 --> 01:08:20.789
It was because he was talking about how he fought

01:08:20.789 --> 01:08:24.050
alongside Captain America. In the previous Ant

01:08:24.050 --> 01:08:26.689
-Man and the Wasp, he was just like, I'm on house

01:08:26.689 --> 01:08:27.970
roast because I fought with Captain America.

01:08:28.149 --> 01:08:30.710
That was the thing. That's why he missed Infinity

01:08:30.710 --> 01:08:34.029
War. Also why Hawkeye missed Infinity War. Even

01:08:34.029 --> 01:08:36.909
though he was filming tag. Yeah. It broke his

01:08:36.909 --> 01:08:40.069
arms. It broke his arms? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Wow.

01:08:40.449 --> 01:08:42.010
Because he did his own stunts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:08:42.949 --> 01:08:46.189
He went, no, Tom Cruise, stop it. Dude, no, it's

01:08:46.189 --> 01:08:47.590
Tom Cruise. That guy's insane. I know, right?

01:08:47.970 --> 01:08:50.109
So two things I absolutely loved. I loved how

01:08:50.109 --> 01:08:53.380
it opened. So we come back with Hawkeye, and

01:08:53.380 --> 01:08:56.720
then we still see the effects of Snapture, as

01:08:56.720 --> 01:08:59.579
it's been called on the internet. And then my

01:08:59.579 --> 01:09:03.079
favorite moment, and this is absolute fan service,

01:09:03.100 --> 01:09:07.239
and I am here for it every day, is Mjolnir. Going

01:09:07.239 --> 01:09:09.779
to Captain America. That was the hypest moment

01:09:09.779 --> 01:09:14.319
for sure. I remember reading JLA versus the Avengers

01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:17.220
and seeing Mjolnir go to Superman and having

01:09:17.220 --> 01:09:19.220
that same feeling when I was reading it. And

01:09:19.220 --> 01:09:20.859
I was just like, shit. And of course, Captain

01:09:20.859 --> 01:09:23.300
America wields the hammer in the comics for a

01:09:23.300 --> 01:09:26.979
time as well. And that is a payoff from Ultron.

01:09:27.100 --> 01:09:29.880
Like there's, you know, like a lot of different

01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:32.359
beats were considered. Yeah. Like jerk me off

01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:34.890
now. Like that's exactly. No, no, no, that's

01:09:34.890 --> 01:09:37.289
not what I was doing. I was doing what they tried

01:09:37.289 --> 01:09:39.850
to move Moon here, and he moved it just like

01:09:39.850 --> 01:09:41.670
a half an inch. Oh, sorry, I was jerking it.

01:09:41.670 --> 01:09:43.869
Just thinking about it. You were jerking yourself,

01:09:44.090 --> 01:09:46.609
apparently. Whoa. Yeah, nice and clean. But anyway,

01:09:46.810 --> 01:09:50.069
so yeah, this got really awkward. No, and I thought,

01:09:50.109 --> 01:09:52.630
you know, like, what had changed from the time

01:09:52.630 --> 01:09:56.789
we had seen him try in Ultron, and what has made

01:09:56.789 --> 01:09:59.369
him worthy since? And the only thing that I could

01:09:59.369 --> 01:10:01.989
think of, outside of the reason of having that

01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:08.720
awesome moment was he still had the um the i'm

01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:10.899
not sure if you would call it a secret or um

01:10:10.899 --> 01:10:13.579
just the knowledge of winter soldier and his

01:10:13.579 --> 01:10:17.000
relationship with iron man and that little darkness

01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:19.840
in terms of keeping that secret yeah right um

01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:23.640
probably kept him from being the true um you

01:10:23.640 --> 01:10:26.510
know someone who is uh worthy, as Thor calls

01:10:26.510 --> 01:10:28.750
it. See, I just didn't think he was worthy until

01:10:28.750 --> 01:10:30.670
he did something like stand up to the Sokovia

01:10:30.670 --> 01:10:32.989
courts, where he was completely out on his own,

01:10:33.090 --> 01:10:35.630
because he just followed whatever was told to

01:10:35.630 --> 01:10:37.810
him. That kind of established him. He's a soldier.

01:10:38.050 --> 01:10:41.109
Yeah, exactly. He's a soldier. This was the first

01:10:41.109 --> 01:10:43.810
moment where he's like, hey, I'm a soldier, but

01:10:43.810 --> 01:10:46.829
for the wrong team. I gotta step up on my own.

01:10:47.909 --> 01:10:50.109
That's a good point, too. That was one of those

01:10:50.109 --> 01:10:52.109
moments where I was like, okay, maybe that made

01:10:52.109 --> 01:10:55.109
him worthy. I buy that more. I buy that more.

01:10:55.170 --> 01:10:57.109
It's a bigger part of his arc, too. Whereas that

01:10:57.109 --> 01:10:59.689
thing that I mentioned is specifically a part

01:10:59.689 --> 01:11:03.029
about Civil War. Where the Sokovia Accords, we're

01:11:03.029 --> 01:11:05.829
talking all the way to Infinity War. It has lasting

01:11:05.829 --> 01:11:08.170
effects. For sure. Yeah, I buy that. I definitely

01:11:08.170 --> 01:11:10.710
buy that. So I lost it when I saw it. Yeah, that

01:11:10.710 --> 01:11:13.670
was a cool moment. Sick! And then they get a

01:11:13.670 --> 01:11:16.229
nice nod from Thor. He's like, which one? And

01:11:16.229 --> 01:11:17.689
you're like, oh no, I get the bigger one. Of

01:11:17.689 --> 01:11:21.090
course he gets Stormbreaker. Yeah. Of course.

01:11:21.250 --> 01:11:25.550
He made Stormbreaker with Peter Dinklage. And

01:11:25.550 --> 01:11:28.029
Groot. And Groot, yes. You're right, and Groot.

01:11:28.069 --> 01:11:30.289
The first time Team Groot actually did something

01:11:30.289 --> 01:11:32.750
for the bigger cause. Aw. Yeah. I can't wait

01:11:32.750 --> 01:11:34.170
to see Groot again. He didn't really get much

01:11:34.170 --> 01:11:36.090
love in this movie. No, I mean, yeah, it's hard

01:11:36.090 --> 01:11:37.630
when you have 60 -some characters. Yeah, there

01:11:37.630 --> 01:11:39.210
was so many characters that you're just like,

01:11:39.289 --> 01:11:41.130
I wish they had more time, but at the same time,

01:11:41.250 --> 01:11:42.890
it's a three -hour movie. It's a three -hour

01:11:42.890 --> 01:11:47.149
movie. No, actually, I liked that it... This

01:11:47.149 --> 01:11:50.130
is the movie for the old goons. This is the movie

01:11:50.130 --> 01:11:53.050
for the original Avengers. This is their last

01:11:53.050 --> 01:11:57.310
send -off. So I saw a tweet where this kid, 18

01:11:57.310 --> 01:12:01.670
-year -old guy, was crying at Endgame. Okay.

01:12:01.829 --> 01:12:04.670
And the guy, he wasn't pointing out that he was

01:12:04.670 --> 01:12:06.590
crying to embarrass him or anything like that.

01:12:06.670 --> 01:12:08.750
He asked him a story and everything like that.

01:12:08.850 --> 01:12:12.069
And he said, I saw Iron Man when I was eight.

01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:16.319
and now he's 18 and he's seen Endgame and it's

01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:18.720
just that full like he grew up with this you

01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:21.159
know like it's one of those things we did too

01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:23.520
pretty much you know like it was 8 to 18 those

01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:25.579
are like your really formative years exactly

01:12:25.579 --> 01:12:28.840
that's incredible yeah we're not that but we're

01:12:28.840 --> 01:12:31.180
dude I play all man I'm trying I'm like equating

01:12:31.180 --> 01:12:34.510
that to like If I played Legend of Zelda and

01:12:34.510 --> 01:12:36.409
they just ended Legend of Zelda with killing

01:12:36.409 --> 01:12:38.449
off Link, I'd probably cry too, dude. Oh yeah,

01:12:38.609 --> 01:12:41.350
exactly. So it was one of those moments. And

01:12:41.350 --> 01:12:44.390
so it was a really cool tweet to me. I retweeted

01:12:44.390 --> 01:12:45.789
it and everything because it was just like...

01:12:46.810 --> 01:12:50.270
That's it. That's what these movies are to us.

01:12:50.569 --> 01:12:53.590
Yeah, for sure. They are. I was talking to Mitch

01:12:53.590 --> 01:12:56.270
about this walking into the theater to see Endgame.

01:12:56.390 --> 01:13:01.189
I am so fucking stoked that this movie didn't

01:13:01.189 --> 01:13:02.789
start it, but it kind of codified it in that

01:13:02.789 --> 01:13:05.970
all of these freaking nerdy movies are an event

01:13:05.970 --> 01:13:08.560
now. they are just so huge and everyone is in

01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:11.060
on it you know um like we used to get like you

01:13:11.060 --> 01:13:12.760
know we used to get like like liking these stories

01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:14.659
was not cool when we were little kids and even

01:13:14.659 --> 01:13:18.439
less so like before right right so like and there

01:13:18.439 --> 01:13:20.119
are people that are bellyaching about like how

01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:22.359
like oh like mcu is too generic and it has too

01:13:22.359 --> 01:13:24.199
much broad eyes appeal but like these are bringing

01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:25.819
characters that you would have never seen before

01:13:25.819 --> 01:13:28.119
into into them like you know the big spotlight

01:13:28.119 --> 01:13:30.100
yeah you know what it's also doing it's bringing

01:13:30.100 --> 01:13:32.699
people to the theaters for sure right a huge

01:13:32.699 --> 01:13:35.819
struggle like outside even outside like some

01:13:35.819 --> 01:13:38.699
disney films like dumbo did not do well but there

01:13:38.699 --> 01:13:41.449
are some films that Bigger companies like this

01:13:41.449 --> 01:13:45.270
are struggling to find. And here are the Russo

01:13:45.270 --> 01:13:47.409
brothers who have definitely mastered the language

01:13:47.409 --> 01:13:49.949
of the Avengers and what that means to the broader

01:13:49.949 --> 01:13:53.409
audience. And guys, like a billion plus over

01:13:53.409 --> 01:13:55.689
the first weekend. Dude, in less than 48 hours

01:13:55.689 --> 01:13:57.989
or something like that? It's insane. Look, I'm

01:13:57.989 --> 01:14:01.250
a big film critic and I'm definitely a snob.

01:14:01.609 --> 01:14:03.890
But damn, I'm here for these movies. I love them

01:14:03.890 --> 01:14:06.170
so much because they just hit the chords exactly

01:14:06.170 --> 01:14:09.369
where they need to hit. Going into Endgame, I

01:14:09.369 --> 01:14:12.899
literally said to Claire... I've never been so

01:14:12.899 --> 01:14:15.720
excited for a movie. Right? Never been so excited

01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:18.479
for a movie. Exactly. And that's what I miss.

01:14:18.619 --> 01:14:20.880
I miss, or at least because I don't think my

01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:23.020
siblings have the same relationship with film

01:14:23.020 --> 01:14:25.260
that I do in terms of the experience of going

01:14:25.260 --> 01:14:27.539
to a theater, sitting down with popcorn and experiencing

01:14:27.539 --> 01:14:30.140
something with a room full of strangers and hearing

01:14:30.140 --> 01:14:32.220
their audible reactions to stuff that's happening

01:14:32.220 --> 01:14:35.390
on screen. Right. That's in a weird off. way

01:14:35.390 --> 01:14:38.270
uh community building and feeling like wow like

01:14:38.270 --> 01:14:40.289
we all share the same experience with the story

01:14:40.289 --> 01:14:42.369
and stuff there are very few of those when i

01:14:42.369 --> 01:14:44.550
went to go see high life which was the robert

01:14:44.550 --> 01:14:46.909
pattinson movie i talked about a couple podcasts

01:14:46.909 --> 01:14:50.489
ago i was one of three people in the theater

01:14:50.489 --> 01:14:53.810
it's a small indie flick yeah you know um and

01:14:53.810 --> 01:14:56.289
even the ones that are the films that are quote

01:14:56.289 --> 01:14:58.590
unquote designed to draw big crowds sometimes

01:14:58.590 --> 01:15:01.409
they miss guys i'm forecasting sonic the hedgehog

01:15:01.409 --> 01:15:06.310
not being like a really successful movie I think

01:15:06.310 --> 01:15:08.750
that's easy to forecast. They chose Gangster's

01:15:08.750 --> 01:15:11.010
Paradise as their main theme. Like, who's this

01:15:11.010 --> 01:15:13.630
movie for? He has human teeth. He's a nightmare

01:15:13.630 --> 01:15:16.630
creature. Exactly. So I think it's always a win

01:15:16.630 --> 01:15:18.590
when you're able to draw people to the cinema.

01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:22.420
Whether it's for Endgame or whatever, Star is

01:15:22.420 --> 01:15:24.640
Born, it could be a number of different things.

01:15:25.460 --> 01:15:29.720
I only bring it up because of Mike. It felt like

01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:34.140
that was a shot. Absolutely. I'm not going to

01:15:34.140 --> 01:15:37.720
it. But I'm just so excited that these movies

01:15:37.720 --> 01:15:40.140
still exist. For sure. Where box office attendance

01:15:40.140 --> 01:15:42.199
is down, but there's still a film out there that

01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:44.359
could bank a billion in one weekend. It's going

01:15:44.359 --> 01:15:46.319
to be interesting to see where they go from here.

01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:48.300
I think there's going to be a drop. There's going

01:15:48.300 --> 01:15:50.619
to be a drop. There's got to be. There's going

01:15:50.619 --> 01:15:53.100
to be a hell of a drop to Spider -Man. Well,

01:15:53.220 --> 01:15:56.619
yeah. I think Spider -Man will do better than

01:15:56.619 --> 01:15:59.720
Ant -Man did after Infinity War. Oh, yeah. The

01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:02.840
characters are just better. There's going to

01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:06.119
be a decent amount for Spider -Man after that.

01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:08.819
I'm intrigued to see what happens. Because everything

01:16:08.819 --> 01:16:11.039
else is just a huge question mark. Now, is there

01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:14.600
going to be an intro, do you think, to Fox, previously

01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:18.140
Fox characters? I heard rumors that Silver Surfer

01:16:18.140 --> 01:16:19.899
was the first character that they wanted to play

01:16:19.899 --> 01:16:23.460
with. And I don't know why, but is it a way to

01:16:23.460 --> 01:16:25.699
introduce Galactus? Right, that's the thing.

01:16:25.739 --> 01:16:28.319
Because you need the next big Earth killer. Do

01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:30.699
you need the next big Earth killer? It would

01:16:30.699 --> 01:16:34.670
either be him or it would be... God, I think

01:16:34.670 --> 01:16:36.810
Galactus would have to be it. Yeah, he's the

01:16:36.810 --> 01:16:39.390
only one after Thanos, right? I want to see Doctor

01:16:39.390 --> 01:16:42.430
Doom kick some ass. I do too, but the problem

01:16:42.430 --> 01:16:44.890
is we're talking about the next big Earth killer.

01:16:44.970 --> 01:16:47.270
Right. Doctor Doom isn't an Earth killer. No,

01:16:47.350 --> 01:16:51.470
but he's also a huge villain in terms of charisma

01:16:51.470 --> 01:16:54.850
and just, I don't know, character, narrative

01:16:54.850 --> 01:16:57.680
weight almost, rather than just... I don't know.

01:16:57.760 --> 01:17:01.439
Eventually, the stakes of the universe gets old.

01:17:01.600 --> 01:17:03.539
It does. That's where I think something like

01:17:03.539 --> 01:17:06.060
Homecoming... It's the escalation problem that

01:17:06.060 --> 01:17:09.159
every long -range show runs into. Black Panther

01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:12.340
was centered around Wakanda. If you're able to

01:17:12.340 --> 01:17:15.380
focus a little bit more narrowly on the stakes,

01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:18.039
I think your movie does better, especially when

01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:20.739
you've already hit those beats. America's under

01:17:20.739 --> 01:17:23.500
attack, or the world is under attack. This only

01:17:23.500 --> 01:17:25.850
worked because of what... all the hard work that

01:17:25.850 --> 01:17:27.609
was done in infinity war right for sure like

01:17:27.609 --> 01:17:30.090
because thanos won and now they need revenge

01:17:30.090 --> 01:17:32.529
so like yeah it was a whole new stakes because

01:17:32.529 --> 01:17:33.930
it was personal yeah because it wasn't you're

01:17:33.930 --> 01:17:35.689
right they made it a personal story it wasn't

01:17:35.689 --> 01:17:37.710
just uh well guys we got to do the right thing

01:17:37.710 --> 01:17:40.470
and save the world again one last time it was

01:17:40.470 --> 01:17:42.109
yeah it was more than that that's a great line

01:17:42.109 --> 01:17:43.909
reading dude yeah thanks dude yeah that was like

01:17:43.909 --> 01:17:51.369
an age of old hey guys sorry i made an evil robot

01:17:51.369 --> 01:17:56.800
gotta go take care of that now whoops I do love

01:17:56.800 --> 01:17:59.300
the part where Tony was like, I wanted a suit

01:17:59.300 --> 01:18:03.979
of armor around the world. That opening scene,

01:18:04.100 --> 01:18:07.119
but when they first land and he is laying in

01:18:07.119 --> 01:18:10.220
the cap, that was good. How gaunt he looked,

01:18:10.239 --> 01:18:12.439
too. The effects on that scene I thought was

01:18:12.439 --> 01:18:15.180
low -key very well done. And I also did like

01:18:15.180 --> 01:18:18.520
how he was, even though he was really mad at

01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:20.960
them and was like, I wanted a suit of armor around

01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:24.369
the world. okay, if we don't talk shop, you can

01:18:24.369 --> 01:18:26.710
come in and have lunch. Yeah, for sure. You guys

01:18:26.710 --> 01:18:29.289
are my friends. I still want to do stuff for

01:18:29.289 --> 01:18:31.829
you. But as long as we don't talk about this,

01:18:31.930 --> 01:18:35.029
come on in. Exactly. He had that in his head.

01:18:35.250 --> 01:18:36.989
He had Thanos in his head for eight years, right?

01:18:37.090 --> 01:18:39.289
Or was that the line from Infinity War? He's

01:18:39.289 --> 01:18:41.869
been in my head for that long time. And he got

01:18:41.869 --> 01:18:44.590
lucky. He survived. He was able to get back to

01:18:44.590 --> 01:18:46.770
Earth. Him and Pepper have a family now with

01:18:46.770 --> 01:18:50.729
Morgan as his daughter. I felt like that was

01:18:50.729 --> 01:18:54.869
one perspective of the Snapture that was not

01:18:54.869 --> 01:18:58.229
thoroughly explored by the others. People lost

01:18:58.229 --> 01:19:01.729
loved ones. Thor lost basically half of Asgard.

01:19:01.890 --> 01:19:05.170
And then here comes Iron Man who kind of bailed

01:19:05.170 --> 01:19:08.369
out. He almost lost nothing. He almost lost nothing.

01:19:08.689 --> 01:19:11.029
In the grand scheme of things. Yeah, definitely.

01:19:11.829 --> 01:19:16.029
Again, it was a good foil for Cap's situation

01:19:16.029 --> 01:19:20.560
where Tony went, reclusive, like, started a family

01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:23.140
and made it work for him. And then, meanwhile,

01:19:23.300 --> 01:19:25.819
like, Cap, the first thing we see him in is some

01:19:25.819 --> 01:19:27.640
of this, like, not alcoholics, not AA meeting,

01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:29.539
but similar kind of, like, you know, like, self

01:19:29.539 --> 01:19:32.000
-help group. And he's trying to help other people

01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:34.000
that he doesn't even know. It's a Snapper's Anonymous

01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:35.760
meeting, almost. Snapper's Anonymous, yeah, yeah,

01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:38.039
yeah. Which, also, excellent cameo from one of

01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:39.800
the Russo brothers. I believe that's Anthony.

01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:41.880
I could be wrong. Okay. Also, we got a cameo

01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:44.699
from Matthew Barry. That's true, yeah! My God,

01:19:44.840 --> 01:19:47.600
whoever plays fantasy football out there. You

01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:49.720
definitely can't miss this cameo. You cannot

01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:51.760
miss That was such a good cameo. It was so good.

01:19:52.479 --> 01:19:55.300
Yeah. That was funny. I really liked it. I mean,

01:19:55.319 --> 01:19:57.739
he was bossing Tony Stark around a little bit.

01:19:57.739 --> 01:20:00.140
He was, yeah. I mean, how cool is that? Yeah.

01:20:00.220 --> 01:20:03.340
Oh, okay. So among the three different, or I

01:20:03.340 --> 01:20:06.279
guess four, if you count were Black Widow and

01:20:06.279 --> 01:20:09.859
Hawkeye Go. Exactly. So among all those different

01:20:09.859 --> 01:20:12.880
journeys, which one was your favorite? Because

01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:15.340
they go to different movies, essentially. Yeah.

01:20:15.340 --> 01:20:19.569
Yeah. My gut wants to say Avengers because that's

01:20:19.569 --> 01:20:22.750
such the easy answer. It's such easy nostalgia.

01:20:23.350 --> 01:20:25.810
And the way they played with it too. There's

01:20:25.810 --> 01:20:27.569
a Loki out there now. There's a Loki out there.

01:20:27.630 --> 01:20:31.890
It has the elevator scene where it was in El

01:20:31.890 --> 01:20:34.329
Hydra, which was dope. And then it's cap on cap

01:20:34.329 --> 01:20:38.550
action. It's got America's ass twice. They added

01:20:38.550 --> 01:20:42.010
a new wrinkle to the attack when you see Tilda

01:20:42.010 --> 01:20:45.109
Swinton shooting down dudes. Yeah, that was pretty

01:20:45.109 --> 01:20:47.609
good too with Professor Hulk at Tilda Swinton.

01:20:47.310 --> 01:20:50.550
went exactly you realize this is a fully realized

01:20:50.550 --> 01:20:52.890
universe right like they consider all the different

01:20:52.890 --> 01:20:54.909
options when they're revisiting these things

01:20:54.909 --> 01:20:56.789
which i thought was really cool right i'd probably

01:20:56.789 --> 01:20:58.909
have to agree with that and then the second one

01:20:59.990 --> 01:21:02.489
God, I'm just not a Thor Dark World guy. No,

01:21:02.529 --> 01:21:06.010
yeah. But I will say it did have some redeeming

01:21:06.010 --> 01:21:08.949
qualities. It almost made Thor Dark World a little

01:21:08.949 --> 01:21:10.949
bit better in retrospective just because it kind

01:21:10.949 --> 01:21:13.569
of gave some sort of emotional resonance to that

01:21:13.569 --> 01:21:15.369
movie that lacked a lot of it. You know what

01:21:15.369 --> 01:21:17.149
I mean? Oh, absolutely. I don't know if that's

01:21:17.149 --> 01:21:19.850
giving more credit to Endgame than I am to Dark

01:21:19.850 --> 01:21:21.649
World. But I also didn't like how Rocket's like,

01:21:21.829 --> 01:21:23.890
this plan's not going to work unless you do this.

01:21:23.989 --> 01:21:26.909
He didn't do it. And he still worked. Yeah, it

01:21:26.909 --> 01:21:28.489
was kind of cheap. Yeah, that was cheap. You're

01:21:28.489 --> 01:21:30.270
right. So that was another thing where I was

01:21:30.270 --> 01:21:32.010
kind of like, eh, all right. For a little bit,

01:21:32.069 --> 01:21:34.050
yeah. Did they use like stock footage of Natalie

01:21:34.050 --> 01:21:35.609
Portman or did she actually show up for that

01:21:35.609 --> 01:21:37.609
movie? From what I read, that's her. Like in

01:21:37.609 --> 01:21:39.510
the film. Yeah, I believe it's her. It's not

01:21:39.510 --> 01:21:41.770
stock footage. Like she showed up for an hour.

01:21:42.140 --> 01:21:44.939
got it nice you know what i mean yeah if that

01:21:44.939 --> 01:21:47.840
yeah she was 20 seconds yeah because yeah we

01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:50.319
saw the back of jane and then i'm like okay so

01:21:50.319 --> 01:21:52.340
they didn't bring her back and then they had

01:21:52.340 --> 01:21:53.859
that one scene where she's coming up from the

01:21:53.859 --> 01:21:57.380
bed or whatever so uh from what i read and like

01:21:57.380 --> 01:21:59.279
half -assed internet research that's what i found

01:21:59.279 --> 01:22:02.119
so okay cool take it for what it's worth how

01:22:02.119 --> 01:22:05.739
about you mike um i mean i would say avengers

01:22:05.739 --> 01:22:09.159
just because that was the one yeah um that was

01:22:09.159 --> 01:22:12.600
the big one um I like the 70s. When they did

01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:14.619
that, that was good. Yeah, that was a new wrinkle.

01:22:14.819 --> 01:22:19.220
Yeah, that wasn't bad. It was on the nose with,

01:22:19.300 --> 01:22:23.020
like, it's both Howard Stark and Agent Carter.

01:22:23.319 --> 01:22:25.520
Like, they were both there. Yeah, it is convenient.

01:22:25.619 --> 01:22:27.819
But with what they established in First Avenger,

01:22:27.899 --> 01:22:29.840
it makes sense. Yeah, it does. It totally does.

01:22:30.020 --> 01:22:33.140
So that was a little bit, like, on the nose for

01:22:33.140 --> 01:22:38.380
me. I like the Vormir scene. I'm sorry, which

01:22:38.380 --> 01:22:40.260
one is Hawkeye? That's the Soul Stone. Hawkeye

01:22:40.260 --> 01:22:43.260
and Black Widow. Can we also talk about the fact

01:22:43.260 --> 01:22:46.640
Black Widow didn't get a funeral? They kind of

01:22:46.640 --> 01:22:48.739
just forgot about her. She died on a different

01:22:48.739 --> 01:22:51.079
planet. She's going to come back. They don't

01:22:51.079 --> 01:22:56.750
really have a body. I will say... No, like, there's,

01:22:56.770 --> 01:22:58.390
like, a beat in the middle, like, not middle,

01:22:58.510 --> 01:23:00.050
like, closer, like, at the end of part two, I

01:23:00.050 --> 01:23:02.010
guess, where the mourning Black Widow, like,

01:23:02.090 --> 01:23:04.090
you know, like, Professor Hulk is pissed, chucks

01:23:04.090 --> 01:23:05.750
the bench, and then they're, like... Professor

01:23:05.750 --> 01:23:07.670
Hulk, jeez. But that's what I'm saying, though,

01:23:07.689 --> 01:23:10.069
is, like... Yeah. It's just, he chucks the bench,

01:23:10.229 --> 01:23:12.550
Hawkeye's angry. Yeah. And then it's just kind

01:23:12.550 --> 01:23:16.329
of, okay, let's do this. Let's keep going. Yeah.

01:23:16.569 --> 01:23:18.430
Because now I've still got the Soul Stone, so

01:23:18.430 --> 01:23:20.399
we're good. It's fine. Well, I don't know if

01:23:20.399 --> 01:23:22.760
it's for good. It's more like we have to carry

01:23:22.760 --> 01:23:25.119
on. Yeah, we have to carry on. Well, let's finish

01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:26.720
it. Yeah, but it was just one of those things

01:23:26.720 --> 01:23:29.680
where I was kind of... No, definitely. What was

01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:32.039
the mantra? Any cost or... Whatever it takes.

01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:33.880
Whatever it takes, whatever it takes. I feel

01:23:33.880 --> 01:23:35.939
like that was what they were digging at. Understood,

01:23:35.939 --> 01:23:37.479
but in the end, they still couldn't give her

01:23:37.479 --> 01:23:40.159
something. They gave Tony a funeral. True. No,

01:23:40.199 --> 01:23:42.449
for sure. Tony had a very dramatic death. He

01:23:42.449 --> 01:23:44.710
did. He had a very dramatic... So did she. Yeah,

01:23:44.770 --> 01:23:47.550
she should have said... Yeah, but only Red Skull

01:23:47.550 --> 01:23:48.590
and Hawkeye were there to see it. Yeah, right,

01:23:48.670 --> 01:23:49.930
right, right. No, no, no. What she should have

01:23:49.930 --> 01:23:51.590
done was she should have just looked Hawkeye

01:23:51.590 --> 01:23:53.489
dead in the eyes and said, I am Black Widow and

01:23:53.489 --> 01:23:56.069
then jumped over. And then Red Skull would have

01:23:56.069 --> 01:23:58.949
been like... And snapped our way down. I'm also

01:23:58.949 --> 01:24:01.710
a little upset that Nebula just sent him and

01:24:01.710 --> 01:24:04.479
was just like, you'll be fine. Not giving them

01:24:04.479 --> 01:24:06.239
any warning. I was telling Mitchell about this.

01:24:06.300 --> 01:24:07.920
It would have been hilarious if they said, like,

01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:09.779
because they didn't know. I don't think anyone

01:24:09.779 --> 01:24:13.539
knew. She knew that Gamora died. Yeah, but she

01:24:13.539 --> 01:24:16.880
didn't know why. Yeah, it's hard to... It would

01:24:16.880 --> 01:24:19.060
have been hilarious if, like, the Hulk... It's

01:24:19.060 --> 01:24:20.840
hard to say, like, okay, someone has to kill

01:24:20.840 --> 01:24:23.659
the other. You know what I mean? That's true,

01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:25.800
too. It would have been hilarious if Nebula and

01:24:25.800 --> 01:24:27.140
the Hulk ended up being on the same mission,

01:24:27.239 --> 01:24:29.119
and then Red Skull gives him the lowdown, and

01:24:29.119 --> 01:24:30.819
then Hulk's like, well, I guess you're fine,

01:24:31.140 --> 01:24:35.420
but... Hulk's throw! Well, yeah, I think if you

01:24:35.420 --> 01:24:37.760
chucked Nebula off the cliff, no Soul Stone.

01:24:38.060 --> 01:24:40.100
Hulk ain't got no love for Nebula. That's true.

01:24:40.300 --> 01:24:42.539
That's what I mean. Look, if there was an hour

01:24:42.539 --> 01:24:44.939
and a half extra in that movie, I would have

01:24:44.939 --> 01:24:46.729
been... As Hawkeye, I would have been like, hey,

01:24:46.770 --> 01:24:48.710
Red Skull, do you want to go on a date real quick?

01:24:49.149 --> 01:24:52.310
Really start a relationship. If they had a rom

01:24:52.310 --> 01:24:54.710
-com in the middle of Endgame. Yes, and then

01:24:54.710 --> 01:24:59.510
he kills Red Skull. I just have to say, so we've

01:24:59.510 --> 01:25:01.489
played Dungeons & Dragons before. You are such

01:25:01.489 --> 01:25:05.689
a bard. You are such a fucking bard. Let me take

01:25:05.689 --> 01:25:07.310
you to dinner first before I kill you for the

01:25:07.310 --> 01:25:11.720
Soul Stone. Enchant love. Enchant love. Because,

01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:13.880
like, I'm not killing Scar Jo, right? She's cool?

01:25:14.020 --> 01:25:16.300
Right, yeah. She's got a prequel movie. She'll

01:25:16.300 --> 01:25:18.119
be fine. Yeah, she'll be fine. She'll be fine.

01:25:18.180 --> 01:25:20.600
And then Hawkeye has his Disney Plus thing, right?

01:25:20.760 --> 01:25:22.859
Oh, yeah, he has a TV show, doesn't he? Yeah,

01:25:22.899 --> 01:25:25.840
so... Wasn't it supposed to be... I'm really

01:25:25.840 --> 01:25:28.500
curious. Yeah. Oh, go. Well, I'm totally changing,

01:25:28.579 --> 01:25:30.779
but that fucking, that Tokyo scene in the beginning

01:25:30.779 --> 01:25:32.680
of the movie was so random and out there, but

01:25:32.680 --> 01:25:34.460
I was here for it. That single shot scene. Yeah,

01:25:34.460 --> 01:25:36.260
exactly. That was fantastic. I'm hot. No, it

01:25:36.260 --> 01:25:38.020
was great. It was like a fucking weave for us.

01:25:38.020 --> 01:25:40.279
We have to show that he is now off the deep end.

01:25:40.319 --> 01:25:41.939
Yeah, but they didn't like the most like anime

01:25:41.939 --> 01:25:44.359
weave ass way possible. Yeah, absolutely. Fighting

01:25:44.359 --> 01:25:46.800
in Tokyo. It's like, okay, it's in the rain.

01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:49.560
Yeah, it's in the rain and you just did the motion

01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:53.359
where he cleans his blade with this. Yeah. Oh,

01:25:53.460 --> 01:25:56.010
I was so on board. it was good and then he has

01:25:56.010 --> 01:25:58.390
the haircut I mean he's got that yeah the fucking

01:25:58.390 --> 01:26:00.890
fade oh it was good I still love the meme like

01:26:00.890 --> 01:26:03.949
when your hairdresser turns into dust in the

01:26:03.949 --> 01:26:08.470
middle of a haircut it shows his hair that's

01:26:08.470 --> 01:26:12.489
a little fucked up but pretty on point but pretty

01:26:12.489 --> 01:26:17.170
on point yep oh god alright so anyway my last

01:26:17.170 --> 01:26:20.449
thought for you guys yeah so Obviously, the cinematic

01:26:20.449 --> 01:26:23.590
universe implies films making its way to theaters.

01:26:24.550 --> 01:26:27.310
A lot of the characters that we know and love

01:26:27.310 --> 01:26:29.109
are going to find their way to Disney+. It's

01:26:29.109 --> 01:26:33.470
going to be a big push for that company. Do we

01:26:33.470 --> 01:26:36.890
have any reservations about experiencing these

01:26:36.890 --> 01:26:39.630
stories inside our homes as opposed to going

01:26:39.630 --> 01:26:42.090
to a theater with an audience? I do, only because

01:26:42.090 --> 01:26:43.829
I've watched Agents of S .H .I .E .L .D. That

01:26:43.829 --> 01:26:45.869
might sound a little harsh. That's a good point,

01:26:45.909 --> 01:26:47.930
though. But I've also seen Daredevil. You know

01:26:47.930 --> 01:26:49.289
what I mean? Yes, they're right. It could go

01:26:49.289 --> 01:26:51.149
either way. It could go either way. My hard part

01:26:51.149 --> 01:26:54.090
is that one of these shows is featured on Hawkeye.

01:26:54.470 --> 01:26:56.710
I think I've had my fair share of Hawkeye. I'm

01:26:56.710 --> 01:26:59.949
with you on that. I was almost kind of, this

01:26:59.949 --> 01:27:02.029
movie, like, how are they going to make Hawkeye

01:27:02.029 --> 01:27:03.850
such a big deal in this movie? Sure. And they

01:27:03.850 --> 01:27:06.510
did well. Hawkeye, I think, was handled very

01:27:06.510 --> 01:27:08.729
well. Yeah, definitely. But at the same time,

01:27:08.750 --> 01:27:11.529
at the end of the day, he's a human that shoots

01:27:11.529 --> 01:27:13.670
a bow and arrow. Right. That's a tough sell.

01:27:13.810 --> 01:27:16.949
It is. It's going to be hard to make a TV show,

01:27:17.149 --> 01:27:19.810
13 episodes, 20 episodes, whatever it is. It

01:27:19.810 --> 01:27:21.090
would also be hard to find that balance because

01:27:21.090 --> 01:27:24.069
I was actually curious about this when they did

01:27:24.069 --> 01:27:25.890
the whole Netflix initiative, right? Where they're

01:27:25.890 --> 01:27:27.890
like, all right, we're going to do the Defenders

01:27:27.890 --> 01:27:29.409
and everything. I'm like, oh, how are they going

01:27:29.409 --> 01:27:31.909
to tie into the movies? And the answer is they

01:27:31.909 --> 01:27:35.869
didn't. So I wonder if... If they do do that

01:27:35.869 --> 01:27:37.850
for these Disney Plus shows, how do you find

01:27:37.850 --> 01:27:40.550
that balance of can we expect people to watch

01:27:40.550 --> 01:27:44.770
20 plus movies and 10 plus seasons of TV shows?

01:27:44.909 --> 01:27:46.850
My hard part going back to your Agents of S .H

01:27:46.850 --> 01:27:48.229
.I .E .L .D., I felt like they were left high

01:27:48.229 --> 01:27:50.729
and dry. So the end of the first season kind

01:27:50.729 --> 01:27:54.949
of got a little good. Full disclosure, I have

01:27:54.949 --> 01:27:56.350
not seen a single episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:56.449 --> 01:27:58.569
Go for it. Keep going. So I watched the first

01:27:58.569 --> 01:28:01.229
season. The end of the first season was actually

01:28:01.229 --> 01:28:03.050
pretty good. They had a good twist, that kind

01:28:03.050 --> 01:28:05.600
of stuff. Okay. I think they got left high and

01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:08.140
dry because of Winter Soldier. Wow, they did

01:28:08.140 --> 01:28:10.560
get left high and dry, and I have the exact opposite

01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:13.899
opinion. It's weird because no one told them

01:28:13.899 --> 01:28:15.960
that Hydra was going to be infiltrated by S .H

01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:17.460
.I .E .L .D. And when they did that, I thought

01:28:17.460 --> 01:28:20.260
the show got way better. Yeah? Yeah, dude, I

01:28:20.260 --> 01:28:22.920
loved it. I loved how they handled the twist.

01:28:23.079 --> 01:28:25.319
It immediately made the dynamics of that core

01:28:25.319 --> 01:28:28.140
group of characters more interesting. Only because

01:28:28.140 --> 01:28:31.140
of, what was his name, Ford? Yeah, Grant. Grant,

01:28:31.220 --> 01:28:33.670
yeah, yeah, yeah. Immediately, like, oh, I have

01:28:33.670 --> 01:28:35.789
an emotional, like, you know, there's an emotional

01:28:35.789 --> 01:28:38.289
centerpiece character now to me that I'm like,

01:28:38.350 --> 01:28:40.729
oh, man, like. And it was Ward, not Ford. Ward.

01:28:40.850 --> 01:28:42.210
Yeah, Grant Ward. There you go. See, I love this

01:28:42.210 --> 01:28:43.189
character so much, I can't even remember his

01:28:43.189 --> 01:28:46.930
last name. Yeah. But, yeah. Yeah, but I agree

01:28:46.930 --> 01:28:49.010
with the fact that he was Hydra and everything

01:28:49.010 --> 01:28:50.869
like that. Hey, spoilers for Agents of S .H .I

01:28:50.869 --> 01:28:52.149
.E .L .D. if you haven't seen the first season

01:28:52.149 --> 01:28:53.170
of Agents of S .H .I .E .L .D. Yeah, you can

01:28:53.170 --> 01:28:54.750
just maybe spend some time on Agents of S .H

01:28:54.750 --> 01:28:57.409
.I .E .L .D., maybe. Just see the first season,

01:28:57.489 --> 01:29:00.779
I guess. Ooh. I'm not watching it. If you go,

01:29:00.819 --> 01:29:03.199
like, seriously though, if you go, the first

01:29:03.199 --> 01:29:05.380
eight episodes are rough. They are really hard

01:29:05.380 --> 01:29:07.720
to get through. It's like, it's like, it's like

01:29:07.720 --> 01:29:11.760
random X -File adventures with all of Marvel

01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:14.659
Cinematic Universe's very, very, very small random

01:29:14.659 --> 01:29:16.880
side characters. You know? But like episode nine.

01:29:17.720 --> 01:29:20.000
Episode 9 through the rest of the first season,

01:29:20.060 --> 01:29:22.520
I'd say, is like, okay, I'm happy with it. Yeah,

01:29:22.579 --> 01:29:23.720
yeah, because you center more and more on Agent

01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:25.760
Coulson. And that's honestly where I stopped,

01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:28.319
too. I stopped at the end of season 2 because

01:29:28.319 --> 01:29:30.920
then it got more into Inhumans stuff a little

01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:34.460
bit. And that centered around Skye, who I think

01:29:34.460 --> 01:29:37.159
is a massive Mary Sue character. So, I don't

01:29:37.159 --> 01:29:39.560
know. It wasn't really, yeah. Anyways. It'll

01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:41.920
be interesting to see, especially with Hawkeye.

01:29:41.979 --> 01:29:44.909
It's basically just Arrow. Right. Well, the fact

01:29:44.909 --> 01:29:49.189
that they're giving Hawkeye as big of a character

01:29:49.189 --> 01:29:51.890
as Hawkeye a TV show, same with Loki, that gives

01:29:51.890 --> 01:29:53.350
me more hope that they're going to tie more into

01:29:53.350 --> 01:29:55.409
the – make them more consequential to the overall

01:29:55.409 --> 01:29:57.829
plot. I don't know if I actually want that, but

01:29:57.829 --> 01:30:00.050
on paper it would sound sweet, you know, because

01:30:00.050 --> 01:30:01.409
that was kind of disappointing where, like, at

01:30:01.409 --> 01:30:03.430
least with the Netflix shows, like, they fed

01:30:03.430 --> 01:30:06.210
into each other, which was cool. But, like, no

01:30:06.210 --> 01:30:08.250
one ever mentioned Jessica Jones. We never saw

01:30:08.250 --> 01:30:10.470
– I would have loved to see Daredevil and Spider

01:30:10.470 --> 01:30:12.649
-Man interact at some point. Right? Come on.

01:30:12.829 --> 01:30:14.989
I would not have been opposed if the defenders

01:30:14.989 --> 01:30:15.810
made that right. They're different boroughs,

01:30:15.850 --> 01:30:19.510
but they're in New York. Exactly, yeah. You know

01:30:19.510 --> 01:30:21.760
who else is different boroughs? Captain America

01:30:21.760 --> 01:30:23.939
and Spider -Man. I mean, he doesn't live in New

01:30:23.939 --> 01:30:27.880
York anymore. He's busy running his presidential

01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:32.500
campaign. Yo, I'm from Queens! Yo, I'm slinging

01:30:32.500 --> 01:30:38.000
here! That's why I like him coming when he's

01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:41.180
trying to disguise his voice in the Washington

01:30:41.180 --> 01:30:43.939
Monument. Everything's gonna be alright, man.

01:30:45.039 --> 01:30:48.279
I love that. I thought that was a good moment.

01:30:49.400 --> 01:30:52.180
All right. Well, it seems like we are running

01:30:52.180 --> 01:30:54.319
out of steam on this. Yeah, we are. I need to

01:30:54.319 --> 01:30:56.020
watch that game again. I've only seen it once

01:30:56.020 --> 01:30:57.899
and it's still very raw emotionally for me. I

01:30:57.899 --> 01:30:59.079
think I'm going to watch Agents of S .H .I .E

01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:00.439
.L .D. You guys totally sold me on it. Yeah,

01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:02.779
wow, really? With my lukewarm reception? Fuck

01:31:02.779 --> 01:31:05.520
no. I already spoiled the ending for season one.

01:31:05.659 --> 01:31:08.020
You guys definitely sold me on Incredible Hulk

01:31:08.020 --> 01:31:11.119
and Thor the Dark World. The movies I've seen

01:31:11.119 --> 01:31:13.460
bits and pieces of. Dude, Thor or Incredible

01:31:13.460 --> 01:31:17.159
Hulk. Let me just give you a hint. Incredible

01:31:17.159 --> 01:31:20.500
Hulk is free on demand. Are you serious? Yeah.

01:31:21.119 --> 01:31:23.560
So I've had the capabilities. I would watch that

01:31:23.560 --> 01:31:25.539
movie drunk. Take a drink every time you see

01:31:25.539 --> 01:31:27.659
some really awful CGI. It'll be plastered in

01:31:27.659 --> 01:31:29.520
half an hour. Let's make a drinking game out

01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:31.680
of this. Actually, I'm into that. Let's do it.

01:31:31.779 --> 01:31:33.939
Come on over. Let's make a drinking game. All

01:31:33.939 --> 01:31:35.880
right. I'm so in. All right. Play some Edward

01:31:35.880 --> 01:31:37.899
Fortyhands. Watch some Incredible Hulk. Oh, I

01:31:37.899 --> 01:31:39.060
wasn't going to do Edward Fortyhands. What are

01:31:39.060 --> 01:31:42.020
we, in college again? Oh, my God. Dude, I'm going

01:31:42.020 --> 01:31:43.720
to be plastered for this. Anyways. All right.

01:31:44.550 --> 01:31:46.850
Well, we're going to have another episode maybe

01:31:46.850 --> 01:31:48.649
next week. I haven't talked to you guys yet.

01:31:48.689 --> 01:31:50.409
Do you want to do next week? I'm in. Okay. Of

01:31:50.409 --> 01:31:52.409
course I'm in. We'll do another one next week.

01:31:52.989 --> 01:31:55.489
We're going to see actual movies. Just a reminder.

01:31:55.529 --> 01:31:56.729
I'm not going to see an actual movie. These are

01:31:56.729 --> 01:31:57.909
actual movies. These are definitely actual movies.

01:31:57.909 --> 01:31:59.630
Well, yeah, yeah. No, but I mean besides that.

01:31:59.630 --> 01:32:01.149
I'm going to actually have to pay up on my awful

01:32:01.149 --> 01:32:04.270
movie. Yes. Damn it. Andre is in the barrel for

01:32:04.270 --> 01:32:08.119
the losing movie. Fuck! I can't wait. The trailer

01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:11.180
was so bad. It was so bad. Yeah, I've got a few

01:32:11.180 --> 01:32:14.159
movies I'm messing around with in the head, and

01:32:14.159 --> 01:32:18.140
now it makes it better because I feel like nobody

01:32:18.140 --> 01:32:20.560
is going to be at the theater this week to see

01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:24.060
anything else but Endgame. True. So I can sneak

01:32:24.060 --> 01:32:27.619
in and see a movie by myself. Oh, man. What?

01:32:27.739 --> 01:32:29.899
Take pictures next week. It is next week. Bro.

01:32:30.579 --> 01:32:33.340
I'm seeing that. I want to talk about it. I'll

01:32:33.340 --> 01:32:36.119
see you next week. Okay. Yeah, I'll let you have

01:32:36.119 --> 01:32:39.020
it. It's going to be after the episode. Is it?

01:32:39.119 --> 01:32:42.500
Yeah. Oh, May 10th. Yeah. Never mind. Okay. Not

01:32:42.500 --> 01:32:43.899
this upcoming week. Next week. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:32:44.100 --> 01:32:46.039
All right. Never mind. Shazam. Let's go see Shazam.

01:32:46.060 --> 01:32:48.079
Well, I was going to go see Shazam. Yeah, yeah,

01:32:48.100 --> 01:32:50.020
yeah. All three of us? Yeah, let's do it. Guys,

01:32:50.319 --> 01:32:53.640
you just heard a date happen here on the podcast.

01:32:53.920 --> 01:32:55.420
I don't know when we're going to be able to see

01:32:55.420 --> 01:32:56.819
it, but sure. We'll figure it out. We'll figure

01:32:56.819 --> 01:32:59.520
it out. Okay. All right. Well, that will be our

01:32:59.520 --> 01:33:03.699
MCU discussion for today. Cool. That'll do it

01:33:03.699 --> 01:33:06.899
for myself, Mike. And Mitchell. And Andre. Any

01:33:06.899 --> 01:33:09.260
last thoughts, guys? Any last words? We ended

01:33:09.260 --> 01:33:12.039
an MCU podcast on Shazam. Yeah, I know. That's

01:33:12.039 --> 01:33:13.859
hilarious. I feel a little backhanded there.

01:33:13.979 --> 01:33:16.380
We also talked about Arrow at one point. Like,

01:33:16.399 --> 01:33:19.859
a little bit. Man. Just dash. Ollie Queen, dude.

01:33:19.960 --> 01:33:22.720
What a guy. I'm excited. I'm not ending on that.

01:33:22.920 --> 01:33:24.399
I've never seen a single minute of that show.

01:33:24.399 --> 01:33:26.020
You know what? With the Marvel Cinematic Universe

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ending, I'm excited for the Smash Bros. universe,

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with the first entry being Detective Pikachu

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and the second being Sonic. Ooh. This is a terrible

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universe. Wow. And Mario's coming up soon. Oh

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yeah, that's gonna come. Dude. You made Mitchell

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feel really sad. Yup. So, I will end it then.

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We are Iron Man.