Yeah, that's a good sound. Welcome to Game for
a Movie Podcast Episode 8! Yes, 8 episodes, guys.
We're still around. I can't believe it. Wow,
we've made it this far. We keep coming back.
We keep coming back. We have a lot of changes
today. That's right. But first, I'm going to
introduce everybody. I am your host, Mikey Tech.
I'm joined by... Andre. Mitchell Clements. T
-Dog. T -Dog! He's back! T -Dog's back! We've
been trying to figure out where you've been.
Yeah, you know, just... Come in here for Mitchell's
hot takes. Oh, yeah. You could stay away from
the hot takes. The hot takes. I was really missing
out on the hot takes. Mitchell needs more hot
takes is what Mitchell said. I need more hot
takes to stay in this podcast, yeah. Oh. No,
from Mitchell. Okay, from Mitchell. He needs
to deliver hot takes to me. I thought you were
talking about yourself and like we're voting
you off the island or something like that. The
warmth of all these hot takes, they sustain me.
They keep me alive, yeah. Okay. That's why I'm
here. Well, all right. So, we are changing some
things up. As you have noticed, the intro is
gone. A lot of feedback... Deuces! Okay. That
works really hard on that. You said it, and I
enjoyed it. No, and that's the thing. A lot of
feedback I've gotten is that it's a good intro,
but it's just too long, which is fair. I think
it is. I say just make a short, you know, blurb.
Well, so, I've been talking with Claire, and...
That kind of stuff. And, like, the podcast she
listens to kind of just says, like, what I was
thinking is we would say now, okay, this episode
contains spoilers for this movie, this movie,
this movie, this movie. Sure. Some music starts
us off as we're talking as well. Okay. As we
do the beer opening and the, because I think
the beer opening is good. Yeah, I like the beer
opening. I like that, too. Speaking of beer openings,
we are drinking beer. That's right, we are. We've
got Two -Hearted Ale from Bells. That's right.
We've got Harpoons, One Hazy Summer. Oh, wow.
We've got Julius from Treehouse. Sounds delicious.
And we've got Ferris Session IPA from Hanging
Hills. I love that. I love this can. We should
totally do a throwback cast, and I would love,
like, the 80s. Honestly, yeah, I'm so down. Dude.
The thing is, I need at least a Chicago movie.
I'd stick to either Breakfast Club, Ferris Bueller,
or Blues Brothers. Was that in the 80s or 70s?
I thought that was in the 80s. Okay, cool. I
just don't like those characters. I think it's
like 1981. Written in the 70s, I'm pretty sure.
So now you're going to make me look it up. Yeah.
But anyway, the John Hughes era. 1980. Which
I totally love. 1980. There you go. 1980. So
I would, yeah, it would be okay. Yeah, so, all
right, there's that difference. As well as, normally
we do this thing at Andre's place. Yep. He's
been nice enough to host us. Of course. Well,
Claire and I just moved into a new apartment.
We are in the basement of said new apartment
doing the podcast. So it's something to... What
do you guys think? What do you think of the basement?
It's pretty down here. I like it. Yeah? Yeah.
You know, unfortunately, Andre's place was in
King's Landing, and then some queen went a little
crazy with her dragon. You know. Like, we didn't
address the elephant. Yeah, you need to go back
and edit. There's actually a limitation on that
episode. Yeah, dude, are you kidding me? You
haven't seen that episode within an hour? You
got spoiled on Twitter, man. It's over. So, spoiler
alert, Andre's homeless. His house got burnt
down. He did not have fire insurance. That's
Aaron Rodgers. I was not next to Aaron Rodgers.
He did not protect me through that fight, unfortunately.
Because did you know Aaron Rodgers was there?
I was. I was. I knew after the fact. That's actually
my favorite episode of the series because I've
never watched it, and Aaron Rodgers died. So,
yeah. Twofer. So says the Bears fan. Yes. He
was rich. Khalil Mack was there to finish him
off. Yeah, right. If all of a sudden, like, he's
on fire, and Khalil Mack's just like, yeah, cool.
Dude, Khalil Mack is like an unsullied, just
grow tackling for the era. That would be so good.
That would be amazing. That would be great stunt
casting. But, yeah. So, we are back. We just.
our MCU episode last time, so this time we have
new movies for you. We are going to start it
off with Mitchell. Mitchell, what did you see
this time? John Wick Chapter 3 Parabellum? Hell
yeah! Parabellum, thank you. They said it weird
in the movie, so... I haven't seen it. I'm not
going to spoil this. I do want to see it. Okay,
good. Because I highly recommend this movie.
Especially if you're a fan of the first two John
Wicks. Guys. This is just more John Wick. Okay.
Literally, the only thing holding me back was
Andre not seeing the second one yet. Oh, really?
You haven't seen it? I haven't seen the second
one. I've seen the first one. Loved it. So I
actually had to refresh myself on part two because
I heard part three literally picks up right off
where number two ends. Oh, okay. There you go.
That's what I've been told, too. So I've been
traveling over the past couple weeks, and luckily
Delta had John Wick 2. So just number two. So
I ended up watching that. It was a great experience
because I knew the story kind of, so I was able
to get... work done, and then I turn my face
up when the action scenes are going on. Because
really, that's what you watch John Wick. Oh,
yeah. You want to see him kill something with
something he should probably not kill them with.
Absolutely. And guys, he kills people with books,
with horses, with... Obviously knives and guns.
And what I love so much about this movie and
the entire series is that it's all tactile, right?
It's hand -to -hand combat. And the filmmakers
do such a good job of taking notice of the environment
that John Wick is in and how do they creatively
involve him and how he gets to use those props
to... you know, beat up whatever enemies are
going after him. Nice. And I think they really
raise it to another level with the action scenes
in John Wick 3. Can you ballpark a body count
in this movie? Oh my god, dude. For John Wick
in particular? Yeah, just John Wick. No, how
many times did John Wick die? How many times
would he have died? And that's the best part
because John Wick is vulnerable. They've made
that known through the first two movies. This
guy gets hurt, he gets stabbed, he's not a perfect
fighter. Oh yeah, and he's not like a Marvel
superhero. He's not a superhero, exactly. Whether
or not. gets stabbed he has to heal himself he
runs out of bullets in his clip and has to reload
while guys are shooting at him like it's not
like commando where just the second shot has
a new clip in it exactly so no i would say i
don't know probably uh around 50 but probably
a lot more too that's i mean but this is a lot
of again hand -to -hand stuff um hallie berry
has a great excuse me whoa Excuse me, Harpoon.
Had a great role in the second act where she
had two dogs that assisted her in her fight sequence.
And oh my God, how those dogs are used. I mean,
every time you see a dog in John Wick, you're
just on the edge of your seat. You're on the
edge of your seat because you don't know if that
thing is going to make it. That's true, though.
But I will say this again. The action sequences
are through the roof. Again, Halle Berry, I thought
it had, you know, she's only in this movie for
maybe 18 minutes or at least an 18 -minute sequence.
But my favorite cameo that was in this, and whoever's
an NBA fan already knows that he's in the movie,
but... Boban Marjanovic? That's right. The center
for the 76ers. Watch the interview of him on
that. There's an interview out there about him
talking about his role and everything like that.
And it was fantastic to hear him talk about it.
It was kind of cool. It's great. I mean, he plays
a gigantic villain. And for those who know The
End of John Wick 2... it ends with him essentially
being on the run. He's been excommunicado. And
everyone who's a part of this underground assassin
world that John Wick finds himself in... Spoilers
for Andre. Spoilers for Andre, but he does. That's
fine. Translation, excommunicated. Oh, wow. So
the new Fortnite mode has you get excommunicado
when you lose. They had a John Wick mode. Oh,
there you go. Hashtag Fortnite. God damn it.
So Boban is one of the agents who comes after
John. And they do such a great job of using his
body as a force of... fear, because they do it
in a very claustrophobic setting where John looks
about the size of my pinky going up against Boban,
who is like 7 '3". Anyway, at least to say, John
Wick wins that battle. And I was half expecting...
Okay. This is literally in the first ten minutes.
And I was half expecting Tobias Harris to come
out of the shadows. Boban, no! All my NBA heads
will love that reference out there. But anyway,
he's a free agent this year, and I think he should
sign full -time with the John Wick series. Yes!
He's great. He's great. Unfortunately, I'm not
sure if he can come back in the John Wick series.
Well, he did. It will take some serious surgery.
But anyway, the dogs are great. I heard an interview
with the director who had said that, you know,
we choreographed and we take the fight sequences
very seriously. We have six -month rehearsals.
But it's funny, the day of the shoots and you're
working with animals for the first time, you
realize, and this is something that they learned
in the previous movies, these animals don't know
it's a movie. So when they're attacking people,
they are attacking people. So that's, like, one
of the biggest jumps they have to make from rehearsal
to actual shooting. And you see these dogs attack
the guys who are attacking Halle Berry or John
Wick, and you're like, oh, my God! I didn't think
of it that way. Everyone, like, bouncing back
from that in, like, real life, let alone in the
movie. So anyway, as I'm describing, the movie
itself, you could feel the impact. There's one
particular scene where a guy gets something poked
out of him that is done in a very gruesome way
where you have to... personally turned away when
it happened. So I'm not sure if it actually happened
completely on screen because I turned, I completely
shut my eyes away from it. But I love it. That's
what you're here for. I need this movie. I need
it. You guys need this movie. An eye poked out?
It could be an eye. It could be, there's some
other. I'm trying to think what else. There's
some other weird body parts that you didn't think
could get taken out of something. Almost, but
except these people actually suffer and die.
Right. after this happens and I like Mortal Kombat
where they're like oh yeah that's like half my
health he's fine yeah just inject this movie
into my veins yes guys the action sequences are
great I will say this when the movie turns the
plot to move things forward which is necessary
to tell a story it does drag because that's not
why you're there But Keanu Reeves is a guy who
was born to play this role, especially at the
age that he's at because of how old he is. He
looks like he's laboring through these moves.
This is definitely not an easy task for anyone.
You can tell the impact of the beating that he's
taken. And I think if this was a spry 20 -something,
early 30 -something Keanu Reeves like we saw
in The Matrix, it would be different. He'd just
be bouncing back and all that. But you could
tell the toll that he's taken. ah, it makes the
action feel so much more real. So the plot itself
is whatever. That's not why you're here to watch
this movie. Guys, there's nothing more that I
can say without spoiling stuff. Please watch
this movie. Please watch this movie. It's on
my list. If you are a fan of the John Wick series,
I think they add more action sequences, especially
in the first and third act. The second act is
kind of the lull, except for the one scene with
Halle Berry. Yeah, I'm going to give this one.
As Andre and I have discussed, I'm pretty stingy
with my stars. So when I say this number, it's
going to sound a little low for how I've been
selling it, but I'm also a story guy. And how
plot was kind of taken aside. And in the same
interview that I heard with the director talking
about the dogs, he'd also say we give the writers
a script, and then when it comes back to us,
what we try to do is take out some stuff and
put more action scenes in. And that's exactly
what they did. didn't sorry I'm very distracted
by the fact why are you distracted everybody's
guessing how many stars so we're holding up numbers
like two three and all of a sudden T -Dog goes
seven I was trying to say two point five oh okay
alright the seven no no guys I It's three and
a half. Okay. Oh, nice. Oh, sick. This is three
and a half. Yeah. This is three and a half. Hell
yeah. Okay. So for me, John Wick 1 has a personal
space in my heart. That's the one that made me
fall in love with action movies again. Okay.
So that's my four. Number two, I'll give it three.
And then John Wick 3, I'm giving it three and
a half because the action sequences are so amazing.
Cool. Got it. Yeah. It's actually not as bad
as I thought it was. It definitely wasn't seven,
though. No. By the way, the metric three and
a half. Horse kicks. You guys will get it when
you see it. T -Dog, you saw a movie. What movie
did you see? Andre and I saw... Detective Pikachu?
Pokemon colon Detective Pikachu. I'm pretty sure
it's called Pikachu colon Detective Pokemon.
Private Dick. Wait, was that the porn version?
We're not talking about... There was that scene
with Missy that was really confusing. Is Missy
in that? No. Are any of the characters outside
the Pokemon? No. Somebody gets called an ass.
Not ash, but ass. Oh, that's pretty close. I
don't actually think anybody gets called an ass.
No, I don't think anybody gets called an ass.
You asshole. Oh, are we still talking about the
porn? Oh, yeah. All right. Detective Pikachu.
Pokemon Detective Pikachu. It's a movie. All
right. Opening scenes. Well, so first, let's
start off. Live action movie. Yes. Very... Important
difference from anything else in the Pokemon
franchise, at least that I know of. I don't know.
Yeah, no, this is the first live action. All
right, yeah. We'll go to our resident Pokemon
expert. Our resident Professor Oak over here.
Oh, okay. All right, yes. Wow. T -Dogs. Spitting
up some beer. Spit tank! I knew what he was going
to say, but when I heard it, I just... So opening
scenes, we start off with, I believe it was the
guy who played the taxi driver in Deadpool. Yeah,
Depender. Oh, yeah. That's fun. But he wasn't
the main character. He was one of the friends
of the main character, so it's literally just
the opening series. Is it Justice Smith? Yes.
And then... So what's his character's name? Tim.
Tim, yes. Tim Goodman. So it opens up with Tim
Goodman. Do you want to review this movie? No,
no, no. I just need some of Andre's help doing,
you know, like the Pokemon name. I'm just trying
to nudge, tie it on his Pokemon journey, you
know. His last name was Goodman? Yeah. Like Goodman?
Yeah. Oh my gosh. He's a Goodman. Yeah, like
Goodman. Well, because it keeps saying his dad's
name, like Detective Goodman or whatever. Yeah,
I know, I know, but I just never put two and
two together until you just said that. Okay,
sorry. Okay, so moving on. The opening scene,
we had Pokemon. I don't know if we want to actually
go in all the names because then I have to remember.
It's a Cubone. Yeah, it's a Cubone. Okay, anyways,
initially it looks great. You know, I think throughout
the movie, all of the scenes where the Pokemon
were in nature or less like... integrated into
this large crowd they looked great um like it
visually looked very well done um and once you
moved into the city more so you know most of
the focus was in rhyme city uh so we have rhyme
city that was created by this um really rich
guy bill nye yeah was it bill it was yeah yeah
yeah no way Bill Nye's in this? Yeah, Bill Nye.
Not the science guy. The actual, like, N -I -G
-H -Y. The actor Bill Nye. Not the only science
guy. I'm like, no way. What a get. He builds
this city and essentially the city is to allow
Pokemon and humans to live and interact together
without being that battle type. Everybody has
a Pokemon partner but it's not their battling
partner. Pokemon just have jobs. You'll see shots
of Squirtle firefighting. like, Machamps, like,
the four -armed Pokemon, like, doing, like, traffic
and stuff. So I thought some of the visuals got
a little sketchy, like, going into that. In the
urban environments, yeah. And so when they went
into Rime City, like, especially that... Machoke?
Machamp? Machamp? Yeah. Close. T -Dog remembers
Pokemon. There is a Machoke, though, isn't there?
Am I wrong? There is, but this is a Machamp.
Yeah, it's a Machamp. There's a lot of Pokemon
on the screen. Machop, Machoke, Machamp. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. No, I understand, but I don't want...
Come on, you're the professor. Oh, my God. Just
hang on my degree over here. Let's be clear.
I have some knowledge that I can piece together
about Pokemon. You're fine. I bet you didn't
even EV train, dude. Like, what the fuck? Anyways.
Anyways. So it was like those scenes that looked
a little more visually shaky. Not quite as...
You know, it just looked... I don't know if it
was, like, that you try to hit that part of the
uncanny valley and they, like, hit that dip.
Yeah, right. Well, I mean, like, seeing Pokemon
interact with humans ends up being a little bit
more fakey. Yeah, exactly. So, like, yeah. And
then, I mean, you have the people moving around.
Yeah. So, back to the story point. I've already
covered the visual to the extent that it's throughout
the entire movie. So the main plot is we have
Tim, who has lost his mother at some point in
his life when he was younger. We find the story
out as the movie. So he initially is off with
his friend in another city, and then he... What's
the exact reason he goes to Rhyme City? Because
his dad gets... I think his dad's dad, right?
Thank you. He's a detective. Key point, people.
Yes. The main violin is that his dad is a detective
for Rhyme City. He gets into a car accident,
a mysterious accident, and they deem him dead
on the scene or whatever. So Tim has to go to
Rhyme City to... go to his apartment, collect
his things, do his last rites or whatever. Right.
Done bullshit. So as Tim goes to the apartment
of his father, he sees something in the apartment
that's rummaging through everything. Eventually
he discovers that it's Pikachu. Believe it or
not, Pikachu, he can hear Pikachu and he can
understand Pikachu. He can understand him. Key
point, he inhaled some drugs before that, right?
Wait, what? But we find out later that that's
how it Who cares? So there's drug use. There's
the R serum, which is what his dad is looking
into. It's basically this drug that enrages Pokemon
and causes them to freak out. So what does it
do to humans? They try to make it so that you...
No, no, that's cool. No, no, no. Whose movie
is this? Oh, yeah, go for it. It's a Ryan Reynolds
movie. Yeah, it's a Ryan Reynolds movie. I feel
like Andre had more invested in it, so I'm fine.
No, like, I didn't mean that as... Wow, damn,
dude. I just meant I enjoyed the movie. I think...
Andre just had more background going in. He did
the reading. He did the research. He did the
preliminary research. He went out with the Pokedex
and filled it up. I was playing Pokemon Go for
weeks beforehand just to prepare. I half believed
it. Let's speed through the story point a little
bit faster. There's this gas that's basically
like an aerosolized acid for Pokemon that drives
them crazy. Humans, they don't really see anything
while it's being released. Humans don't have
an effect other than it's just hard for them
to breathe. So he initially thinks that that's
why he can listen to Pikachu, and Pikachu can
understand him, talk to him, etc. Pikachu's also
voiced by one Ryan Reynolds. Yes, so if you did
not know that, you probably either didn't see
any trailers or... Didn't want to. You can just
fast forward past this part. So, quick question,
what did you think of the humor for, like...
Brian Reynolds' one -liners is Pikachu. It was
interesting for a PG movie. Yeah, it was PG.
Some of the stuff that they said was definitely
bordering more on the PG -13 -ish line. Parts
of that were enjoyable. I wouldn't say Deadpool
funny, but at least to withstand the movie. I
enjoyed the movie. Just to give you a hint of
some of the humor, it's like, oh, that hurt my
Pokeballs. You know, like that kind of stuff.
No, but it's like that kind of stuff. And then
he's talking about the jellies all the time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it definitely sounds like
he's referencing testicles, you know? I want
to be clear, because he says jellies probably
like ten times. That's true. You're right. He
had jelly shoes. But there's a lot of quick,
rapid fire zingers. I'm like, what? like i don't
know yeah it was it was a little off place like
especially i felt like the actor for tim was
a little bit awkward in some of that oh sure
yeah yeah like he wasn't a prime uh no i think
that's the unfortunate thing is i feel like the
main the principal human actors are kind of off
right and that's what i was getting to um basically
every human actor was a little bit awkward in
the yeah you know so i i don't know if that's
like a director type thing. I mean, it's probably
tough to act against the CGI animal, right? Right,
but I mean, I'm sure there's, you know, we could
name instances where they do it. Well, sure,
but... I would say the main, like the best human
actor was... Bill Nye guy. Bill Nye the actor
guy. Bill Nye the actor guy, mayor of Rhyme City.
He's pretty good, yeah. He did not feel awkward.
No. In fact, it was weird how good he was. So
that was kind of the issue is because you have
this movie that has this certain style where
all the humans are really weird interacting with
each other and with the Pokemon. It's not just
like them with CGI stuff. And then you have Bill
Nye and he's, you know, it's just like a... acting
yeah he was pretty good actually yeah yeah um
so that that's one of the main things i also
like the guy from uh this is the word or you're
the worst right that guy was yeah so he plays
bill nye's son son oh that's great yeah he was
also good i mean i would say those two out of
the human actors yeah yeah um he was pretty good
i liked him enough Okay, I guess this is jumping
ahead a little bit, but what do you get? So clearly
they're using this movie as a launching off point
for more Pokemon movies. They've confirmed that
Detective Pikachu 2 is in the works, and that
a Red and Blue movie is in the works. What? Yeah.
And a Mewtwo movie. So three live -action Pokemon
movies all in development at the same time. I
hope they don't do, and this is without saying
Detective Pikachu, but we have seen how Lego
Movie, the first one, was warmly received. People
loved it. And the sequels, or whatever was left
in that universe, have gotten worse and worse
in terms of box office performance. Right. Like,
are they jumping the gun a little bit too early
with this? I don't know. We'll have to see how
Detective Pikachu honestly nets out, because
it's doing well. It's doing well. But it's not
doing how Lego Movie did, right? When it first
came out. It never got first. Well, to be fair.
You're launching after Endgame. Is that also
the problem, though, too? Because it launched
in between Endgame and then John Wick 3 has been
number one this week. Yeah. Right, you know,
so is it... I'll do a little box office mojo
on this. Yeah. I mean, and then you have the
next, the Harry Potter series. Fantastic Beasts.
Fantastic Beasts that just kind of dropped off
of the... I just think that's bad writing. There's
still a third one. No, I think... They're supposed
to be... Yeah, well, that's my point. Like, the
first one was... Pretty good. I wouldn't say
my favorite, but I thought it was still good.
I enjoyed the second one a lot more than other
people did. As far as the franchise viability
of Pokemon, I think there's a... I mean, it could
go either way, but I think there's definitely
a pretty big demand for a red and blue style
movie, because I feel like... A lot of my friends
saw this movie and were like, oh, I want to see
more Pokemon battles. Red and Blue will have
that. I think this was a good starting point,
engaged interest, and it gave a visually well
-received movie. It provides a solid visual blueprint
for what Pokemon would look like. Yeah, exactly.
I think one of the main things is... how they
cast the actors for the upcoming ones. Yeah.
Like, you know, what type of tier they're going
for. Yes. They need something more than what
they had in the set. I mean, like, aside from,
you know, the few that we've talked about. Yeah.
And then, obviously, Ryan Reynolds as Pikachu,
like, I don't know, you can't really, I don't
know if you could find, like, a better fit. For
Pikachu? Like, I'm not saying you couldn't find
a better fit, but it'd be hard to say, like,
oh, yeah, this was, like, worse or fantastic.
Yeah. Danny DeVito. Danny DeVito. Yes! I've seen,
um, right up close to, like... He's perfect in
everything. Yes. Does not matter. It's so good.
Can we just have him dress up as Pikachu? And
then have him voiced by someone else? Yeah. Oh,
voice by... So, Mike, you saw this movie, too,
right? I did, yes. What'd you think? I enjoyed
it. It's a Pokemon movie. It's exactly everything
I wanted in a Pokemon movie. I agree, some of
the visuals were a little off, that kind of stuff.
But really, for me, everything I wanted in a
Pokemon movie. It's not like I'm expecting the
writing to be over the moon and back. I wanted
what I got. Ryan Reynolds as a talking fucking
Pikachu. It worked for me. We enjoyed it. Am
I going to say anything better than, like, middle
of the road? Probably not. But at the same time,
it's just, it's more so, like, the visuals were
cool in the nature scenes. Like, the part with
the Bulbasaurs. Dude, the Bulbasaurs. That was
awesome. Like, I'm fully on board for that. Right.
So there's cool scenes like that where I'm like,
this is awesome. This is where it transcends.
the rest of the movie. Oh, yeah. And, I mean,
huge miss on the no squirrel squad spoilers.
Yes. No squirrel squad. I mean, maybe that was
the squad there, but no sunglasses. You had a
scene of squirrels firefighting and no sunglasses
guy to lead it up. Yeah, you're right. No squirrel
squad. Yeah, I think the one thing I wanted from
the movie. I would have taken a squirrel squad.
Yeah. So I actually kind of found myself a little
less hot on it than I thought I'd be. And I don't
know, like it was more like, and like you said,
like the writing isn't super, I wasn't expecting
the writing over the moon, but that whole entire
like climax, the last 20 minutes, I was just
like, that just totally washed over me. And I
was like. Ugh, okay. I was, like, ready to be
out of the theater by then, right? But that being
said, like, it was awesome to see, like, all
these Pokemon on a live -action screen, and if
I was, like, 10, this is the movie that I dreamed
of when I was, like, a little kid playing those
games for the first time, where it's like, oh,
man, like, seeing all these Pokemon in real life,
like, interacting with humans, like, ah, I, that's,
that, it's, there's, like, it just hits that,
like, it is just nostalgia at that point, right?
Like, it fires on all cylinders on that front,
so. I agree with your end of movie, like, climax
and stuff like that. It felt like, okay, try
for a twist, try for a twist, try for a twist,
try for a twist. Yeah, and then leading up to
that, too, just, like, the fight scenes and stuff
like that is just like, okay, like, it wasn't
doing anything. Are there that many back -to
-back twists? Is that what you're saying? No,
no, no. It's not just twisty, it's just that
the, like, the narrative just, like, is like,
oh, this is happening now. It goes off the rails.
Yes. Yeah. Gotcha. So I will say this, box office
-wise, before T -Dog gives his rating, so...
It's production budget, $150 million. Who knows
how much marketing adds beyond that? But at the
worldwide box office, it's made $312 million
already. So definitely viable. It didn't bomb.
It's not laying the world on fire, but it didn't
bomb, right? Yeah, it did more than not just
bomb. It made money. Makes two times as much.
Yeah, exactly. Besides, obviously, marketing
and that kind of stuff. And this obviously has
huge, huge international appeal. It's made more
money overseas than it's made domestically. So
that's huge. If it's going to make money in China
and Japan, they're going to keep making these
movies forever. And I think the... The main part
of the plot that we didn't really talk about
was just that you have Mewtwo back. That's right,
Mewtwo's back. You have that same interaction
where it's originally prisoned by scientists
who are experimenting on it. If you've seen the
actual cartoon Pokemon first movie. Yes, that's
what I wanted to get back to was the original
Pokemon movie. You have those types of aspects.
It's not the same movie at all. They're not trying
to just remake a live action, but you have those
aspects where Mewtwo has this distorted reality
of human. you know, what humans mean since it's
only had pain, basically. Sure, it's a laboratory
experiment. Yeah, and then so, you know, at the
end, it's... has seen that that's not the case.
There's a plot twist at the end that I won't
give away since... Mitchell straight up guessed
it. Can we all take a moment? We were discussing
before this pod started, like, hey, are we going
to have spoilers and all that? And then I just
pulled it out of my ass that the spoiler for
Detective Pikachu was... We're going to put it
at the end of this podcast. We're going to sign
off. It's going to be at the very end. end where
Mitchell guesses the end. That's funny. I'm so
glad the mic was hot for that. So if you want
to find out what Mitchell thought of the plot
or like figured out of the twist it will be at
the end of this episode. I should just write
movies. I'm sorry guys. So for my rating I would
give it 2. Five premier balls out of five. Ooh,
premier balls. I like it. All right. Nice. I
like it. Nice. I like it. Okay. Is that canon?
Oh, God. Premier balls? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, nice.
All right. I guess it comes to me then. Yeah.
Go for it. So I saw a few movies. So I saw Detective
Pikachu. I saw Shazam. And I saw this movie on
Netflix. Called Extremely Wicked, Shockingly
Evil, and Vile. Yes, I have it pulled up because
I don't remember the exact phrasing. The name
would be tough to remember. I keep calling it
Shockingly Vile, and I'm like, that's not right.
No. If you know anything, the reason that I went
with this is because some of the guys in our
group haven't seen Shazam yet. They want to see
Shazam, so spoiler free, because everybody kind
of knows that Ted Bundy did it. Right. What?
Shit. I know, right? So this movie was on Netflix.
It stars Lily Collins and Zac Efron. Zac Efron
plays Ted Bundy. It also has John Malkovich and
Jeffrey Donovan, Dylan Baker, and fat Haley Joel
Osment. I hate Haley Joel Osment. Ever since
he got fat, I hate him. That's American in a
nutshell. Ever since he got fat, I hated him.
It's not even the fact that he's fat, it's just
he lost all appeal to me. He also now has another
spot in my mind. He was in Yoga Hosers. Oh, yeah.
no that'll do it as another terrible no I hated
him before that but that didn't help I feel like
Mike had this build up from when he was in Sixth
Sense where it was like he was gonna be like
this you know no I had nothing wrong with him
in Sixth Sense why can't I see dead people I
hate you Haley Thomas no it wasn't it wasn't
since Sixth Sense it's since AI oh But that was
like back to back, wasn't it? Yeah. I really
disliked AI. That movie wasn't it. So that was
1999. He had a movie in between called Pay It
Forward, which nobody saw. I saw that. A lot
of people saw that. I think that was a big movie.
The hell? That was a big movie, actually. Whatever.
Doesn't matter. Whatever. Fuck that. Doesn't
matter. I hate Haley Joel Osment. This is what
I wanted to talk about. Is this what the podcast
is? Is this what we're turning into? Apparently,
you guys are calling out my hatred for him. It's
just, I hate him. Wow. I mean, that was like
school violence, man. To be fair, Mike also hates
A Star is Born. He's never seen it. I've never
said I hate it. I just don't believe it should
win Best Director. Fair enough. That's all. I
need another beer, goddammit. Any point on that?
This beautiful movie. Yes. My beautiful dark
twist of fantasy, whatever it's called. Shocking
the Evil. My twisted... Whatever it is. You know.
Extremely wicked, shockingly evil, and vile.
Oh, it also had Jim Parsons. I forgot about that,
too. He plays a lawyer in it. Oh! Yeah, it's
a little weird. I mean, he's fine in it, but
it's a little strange. I still see him as a Bazinga
guy. Yeah, exactly. It's unfortunate that he's...
That's such an iconic character for him that...
He's now been typecasted, except for this movie,
he wanted to try something different, and he
was fine in it, but it's still... Did it pull
you out of it at all? A little bit, yeah. So,
this whole movie... I don't want to say that
I wanted to see it darker, but you never see
any of the crimes committed. It's a courtroom
drama. Okay. And so that's the thing, and it's
all about how he falls in love with this girl
named Lily Collins, or not named Lily Collins,
but played by Lily Collins. Played by Lily Collins.
It's like, wow, what a coincidence. Yeah, exactly.
Her name is Lily Collins, and she's played by
Lily Collins. It was perfect. But it's all about
Ted Bundy and his crimes and everything, and
he's going to jail, and it's... strains their
love and like she has to figure out what to do
because she still loves him but also understands
that he's a monster but he's like fighting and
saying like i didn't do these crimes and she's
like oh i believe you like you didn't do these
crimes and then all of a sudden there's more
evidence he did more crimes and it's like oh
fuck like what the hell you said you didn't do
these crimes. And he's like, I didn't do these
crimes. You know, that kind of thing. These aren't
just crimes, right? Yeah, these are terrible
crimes. This isn't murder. These are shockingly
evil and vile crimes. Ooh. Yes. And so... Tell
me someone says that in the goddamn movie. It's
in the trailer, dude. It's in the trailer. They
just, like, stare right at the fucking camera
and say it. No, it's so... Basically, the majority
of it takes place in all these different trials
and blah, blah, blah. And, like, Ted Bundy was
this, like, extremely smart guy. He was attractive
for the time, apparently. And so, like... Zac
Efron is still attractive. Well, the whole entire
thing about Ted Bundy is that he seemed like
a normal dude, right? And so that's what was
so scary about him, was that he was so normal
and approachable. Exactly. Like, everybody, like,
they... This was the first televised court case,
and even in the courtroom, they say, you have
a lot of followers with you, and a lot of them
are young females. And, like, all of his crimes
were against young females. And so they... It
was just these... People believed him so well.
My issue with the movie is that Zac Efron does
great. He's fine. That's good to know. He's actually
really good in this. The issue I have is the
only reason they cast him is because he is attractive.
He looks nothing like Ted Bundy. And it's just
one of those things where it's kind of like they
just want to have him because he appeals to that
young female crowd. Yeah, I could see that. Well,
I guess doesn't that invoke the spirit of, maybe
he doesn't look like Ted Bundy, but doesn't he
invoke the spirit of a guy who attracts young
women? Probably, yes. Like, was Zac Efron enough
of a Ted Bundy type, I guess? That's my issue
with him, is because I don't see him as a Ted
Bundy type. I don't see him as, even though he
does come across as like normal, attractive guy,
you know, and probably pretty smart. Yeah. I
still wouldn't believe him as a serial killer.
Right. Maybe that's the point, though. What?
Maybe. I think you're thinking the opposite.
So you never see the killings? You never see
the killings. That sounds like an interesting
choice, to be honest with you. Right. So they
want you to kind of realize, hey, maybe having
the facts of the case... Maybe he was innocent.
Maybe he was just wrong place, wrong time. Three
times. You know what I mean? And so it's hard
to believe because they want you to believe just
the facts of the case. But he's in Washington
where these crimes happen. He's in Colorado when
these crimes happen. He's in Florida when these
crimes happen. It's not like it's, oh, it's just
three separate... cases no it's this guy is in
these spots like it's pretty obvious he did it
and so like the first trial where you're kind
of where he he feels good about it he's like
i've got a good lawyer i think i've got this
and then they say like you've been found guilty
and he's kind of like what that's the only spot
where i'm going okay maybe he didn't do these
crimes maybe it's actually like wrong place wrong
time but then he gets extradited to Colorado
where these crimes have happened. And it's like,
oh, wait, you were in Colorado when these happened?
Okay, hold up. And so, I don't know. It's an
interesting movie, but at the same time, it never
dives really fully deep into it. What I do applaud
them for is at the end, they do show the real
court case. And the lines are straight out of
the court case. It's kind of funny, the case
itself, because John Malkovich's character, which
was a judge, and his character, Ted Bundy, they
did have this rapport of like, hey, how are you
doing today, partner? The judge would say to
him. And it's weird because it's like actual
footage and that kind of stuff, but they realized
during the court case, it's very much play like...
Hey, let's play up for the cameras, that kind
of thing. Wow. Wow. So what year was this, the
court? 78? Something like that? So it was pretty
early on. When I think of televised court cases,
the number one that comes to mind is OJ. That
was in the early 90s. So that's incredible. I
didn't know they televised that. That was the
first televised case, right? Yeah, this was the
first one. And a lot of it was because when it
was in Florida, the DA or whoever was in charge
of this was up for re -election. And he had bagged
Ted Bundy doing these crimes on a sorority. Right.
At Florida State. And, like, he read the subpoena,
like, to a camera with Ted Bundy there. And,
like, Ted Bundy's, like, playing it up, like,
oh, what you got there? Oh, a subpoena? Why don't
you read that for me? Aren't you up for re -election?
Like, that kind of stuff. Like, it's super over
-the -top kind of thing. Huh. Wow. But it was
just them playing for the cameras, even. This
is at the end where they show the actual footage.
This is what you're trying to do. So, well, it
happens in the movie, too. Oh, okay. But then
they also show you the footage of it happening.
Just like the Room movie, or whatever. The Disaster
Artist. Oh, yeah, the Disaster Artist. Yeah,
yeah, exactly. Oh, they play the real footage
at the end? Yeah, so they play the real footage
of the Room. I still need to see Disaster Artist.
We all need to see the room together. I want
to have a room episode. Honestly. It's still
happening, I know. But yeah, so it's one of those
things where the movie was fine. It's a good
less than two hours, like an hour and 45 or something
like that. Perfect Netflix movie. Exactly. It's
a good Netflix movie. That being said, I give
it two out of five. Two out of five. Television
cameras. I was about to say, how do we make this
tasteful? No, because this is very much televised,
that kind of stuff. So I give it two out of five
television cameras as well. I think it should
be noted that Joe Berlinger, who was the director
of this, also, with Netflix, directed the documentary.
The Ted Bundy tapes? The Ted Bundy tapes. That's
a docuseries, four episodes. And from a production
standpoint, pretty interesting that within the
same... year that they're releasing both the
live action version and then a documentary thing
on the same subject. Yeah, like creatively that's
kind of cool. I have not seen either, so I'm
not sure which one is better than the other.
I'm gonna go back and watch the Confession with
the Killer Ted Bundy tapes. It's interesting.
Claire was watching it the other night, so I
caught, like, the end of an episode, and it just
so happened to be the part where he got the subpoena
and, like, did it in front of the cameras and
everything like that. So it's funny how it was
just, like, exactly that part. Yeah. It was fine.
A lot of it deals with, like, Lily Collins dealing
with, I love him, but he's a murderer, that kind
of stuff, and then fat Hillary Joel Osment tries
to sneak in. He's back. He's back in. He tries
to comfort her, and it's just, like, sleazy and
Hillary Joel Osment. Yep. There you go. Yeah.
Not a fan. Sorry. It's just that guy. It's okay.
Yeah. So we move on to our loser here. I'm so
excited. Andre. Yeah. You have wasted the last
90 minutes of your life besides this podcast.
No, this podcast has been a joy. Yeah. You watched
this movie today. Woo! Yeah, because I was procrastinating
on it, because Mitchell and I saw the trailer
for this movie, and we were both like, whoa,
wow. So let's start. It was terrible. Let's start.
What is the movie? So the movie is called All
Right Now, or Songbird, apparently, as it was
released in the UK. It is a British dramedy film
starring one, Coby Smulders. Ooh, Coby Smulders.
Fight Fuego. Yes. Wait, that can't be bad. It
gets worse. I was really being sarcastic. I love
Colby Smulders. The main byline of this movie
is that Colby Smulders is a frontman of a 90s
band. This takes place in present day. 2018 is
when it was filmed. She was in a 90s band that
had two big selling albums. The band has a falling
out. They try to do a reunion thing. This is
all the first 10 minutes. They just end up playing
at shitty bars. not really getting it done, and
so the band tells her, we're breaking up, and
she freaks out, moves in with her friend that
lives in an RV. This is all, by the way, taking
place in England. She's the only American, well,
she's not even, whatever. She's the only American
character. Everyone else is British, so whatever.
So not Robin Sparkles. She's not Canadian. She's
not Canadian. No, no, no. She's an American pop
star that lives in England, if that makes sense.
Okay, yeah, whatever. uh so yeah you're right
that's true yeah yeah so she's a jimi hendrix
type i guess oh god not really yeah just no no
no uh and So, yeah, she moves in with, like,
her friend who, like, who lives in an RV, and
they're both, they just, like, it's the night
after her band breaks up. They drink lots of
wine. They just randomly, on the spur of a moment,
decide she should apply to college and just start
over because she wants to. You know, because
that's how it goes. Yeah, right. She's like,
okay, like, I'm done with this life. She's probably,
like, in her late 30s, whatever. I want to go
$30 ,000 in debt, at least. Yeah, right. She's
like, I was just, I'm just going to go to university,
you know, whatever. So, yeah, she enrolls in
this university, and it's, like, there's, like,
this butter romance between her and the admissions
officer, who's, like, this really pudgy, like,
big, like, heavy -set, like, Welsh guy. No, no,
no, no, no. Damn. Actual Welsh guy. No, much,
yeah. And it's just so... I don't know, man.
This movie is so generic. Not generic, it's...
I don't know. It's trying to be cute, but also
it's just very dull, honestly. Everything's hand...
It's all hand camera, so it's like film like
a Jason Bourne movie, you know? Oh. All of it.
Some very weird, like, weird offset Dutch angles
for no apparent reason. Like, yeah. Like, why?
Most of the... I would say most of the script
at least seems like it's just improv. Like, they're
just like, alright, this is the idea of the scene.
You guys just riff. Well, so I saw on IMDb it
says there's... a lot of improvisation. Yeah,
it feels like it. So, okay, obviously, like,
it does not, yeah, like, it's literally just
Cobie Smulders, like, riffing on, like, with
whoever's in the scene. I feel like she wouldn't
be a good improviser. She's not. I mean, at least
from what, you know. No, so, like, she's, like,
trying to be funny, you know, and stuff, like,
and, hey, I think Cobie Smulders is, you know,
a good enough actress. She's great. She has good
timing, but I didn't see that here in this movie
at all. I liked her in, um, How I Met Your Mother.
Yeah, like, she's pretty much your mother. But
she always feels a little bit awkward, like,
especially in some of the Marvel movies. Well,
I don't think they know what to do with her.
Right, I think that's more the script's fault.
Yeah, that's her. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Yeah,
I don't know. So, yeah, it's just very bizarre.
So this whole entire, like, the main plot is
between this budding romance between this very,
like, very frumpy admissions officer guy. Haley
Joel Osment. No, not Haley Joel Osment. He's
not Haley Joel Osment. It would have been a good
movie. No, it would not have. Yes, it would have.
He's in Yoga Hosers. You do not win this argument.
So that's like the main driving force is like
her like trying to get him out of his shell where
she's a very free spirit, you know, whatever.
And like he's like very, not like reserved, but
very like awkward, you know, like just kind of
in his own head a little bit. And I don't know,
dude, it just. That's weird. Yeah, it's just
weird. And so, like, the whole movie's trying
to sell you on this relationship, and it never
really goes there. Oh. Like, they never get together
anymore? Oh, no, no. Okay, so, that's the thing.
They almost have sex, like, three times in this
movie. Oh. Yeah. So, like, in the first... Almost.
Yeah. So, there's... Yeah. This is the classic
eye roll. Yeah. Right. So, it hits on all those
dumb tropes, where the predicate is, like, so,
both her... Both Tobey Smulders and her friend
are enrolling in this college or whatever, and,
like, their first night there, they move into
their dorm, and they're like, oh, it's the dorm,
whatever, and, like, they're... Like, hey, we're
having a barbecue on this beach if you want to
come. Like, they're totally cool. Like, very
chill university, like, 18 -year -old students
being like, hey, this person in their 30s, like,
why don't you come hang out with us at, like,
our barbecue? Whatever, bring friends. What?
No, they wanted to bring beer. Yeah. Well, they
had beer. Oh, this is in England. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, it's so weird. So, and then literally,
like, they're like, okay, we're going to go to
the barbecue, and, like, we're going to have,
like, 50 pence, I get boned before you do, or
whatever. Like, they have, like, a Ben who, like,
who, like... But 50 pence? Yeah. Yeah. Or 50
quid, maybe. Whatever. Okay. Quid. Quid probably
would make more sense. Quid makes more sense.
Yeah, yeah. Okay, let's quit. Yeah. Because pence
is, like, sense. Yeah, no, it's quid, then. Yeah.
Yeah, whatever. So, that's, like, they have a
bet, and, like, that's, it's 50 cents, man. That's
how much I'm worth. So, like, so, so, Kobe brings
the admissions officer, he's the, he's, she's,
he's the only guy she knows at the college or
whatever, and, like, yeah, like, she's, like,
takes him back to the dorm with him, and, like,
they almost do it, but then he's super, yeah,
the dorm, yeah, right, right. The super awkward
scene where, like, he just has no idea what to
do, and it's, like purposefully awkward but I
still like I can't handle that kind of humor
it's like oh god like whatever it's fine whatever
um and like literally she just he bores her to
sleep so they don't like he just she just passes
out they don't bone and then like they don't
bone they don't bone they move on they move on
well they don't move on because like it's the
next morning and like I don't know, they're,
like, hanging out, and they're trying, like,
again, it's more just, like, forced improv, like,
they're just riffing on each other, and I don't
think they have much chemistry on screen, and
when you don't have chemistry on screen, you
don't have a script to back you up on it. It's
rough. They have chemistry off screen, though.
We don't know. Maybe... I don't know. I didn't
see it. So yeah, whatever. Yeah. I don't know.
Uh, so this happens like two or three times basically
where like they almost hook up and like, she's,
she's like, it's not like, it's not like a, like
the one interesting thing is that she is very
much determined to bone him for some reason.
Like she's like, all right, yeah. Like we're
going to hook up. We're going to have sex. It's
going to be awesome. But like, he just gets into
his own head or whatever. Um, so that's the main
conflict of the movie. And like, they try to
do this forced metaphor where he's the tortoise
and she's, the hair. Are we sure that this guy
wasn't, like, the writer or something like that?
Uh, no. I looked it up. No, no, no. I looked
that up. No, he's just... You're right, because
it is kind of like the Tommy Wiseau situation,
right? No, and he's a better actor than that,
I would say, but, like, no, he's just a normal,
like, you know, actor. I don't know who this
guy is. Maybe he has some connections. No, he's
not. Alright, so they don't fuck at all. No,
so, like, at the very end... Oh, Richard Ellis!
Yeah. right okay yeah all right anyways so at
the very end like sorry to spoil this movie i
guess at the very end they're like she's like
about to leave for uh leave to go back to go
back to seattle where her dad lives or whatever
but like yeah right yeah so there you go Jesus.
This is awful. Yeah. So she's about to go back
there, but she, like, and this is, like, she
decides that the morning after, so, like, this
is their third attempt to bang, and this is so,
like, I don't know, or whatever. Is she trying
to bang, like, legitimately, or is she still
trying to get this money? No, no, no, she's,
like, trying to bang legitimately. Like, so there's,
like, happy to the movie, happy to the movie,
because, like, well, because, like, okay, now
I'm backing up even more. Happy to the movie,
like, they're hanging out, and they're, like,
established. report or whatever, and then the
friend is like, oh, like, this is the guy from
the bed, you know, like, totally forced, like,
trope, he's like, oh, this is the bed guy, you
know, like, whatever, you know, yeah, like, that
trope. I don't even care about the bed anymore,
guys, you ruined my one chance. Right, exactly,
yes, so, so, goes that route, and, like, they're,
whatever, so, he, so, the... they're about to
bang for the, like, the third time, and, like,
he, drags, yeah, drags, she drags him into, into,
uh, her dorm, but her, like, flatmate is already,
like, macking on this other guy in the dorm,
and they're, like, and you think, like, oh, shit,
like, well, that's that, like, and you know,
we're, like, alright, I guess this isn't happening,
no, Kobe Smulders tries to make it a fu - this
movie is not the worst movie keep in mind keep
in mind this is these like college -aged kids
right that are that they're about to bone down
and like they're all so cool with it like they're
like yeah like let's do it and then the guy like
the poor guy would probably get the same exact
way i would i'm like what the fuck like no and
like bolts so threesome it is yeah no and like
well they like touched on that first like you
could see her thinking like she's like oh fuck
like he left like oh no and it's like oh no i
can't i can't do threesome right now like you
just need to get the fuck out i'm like goby what
the hell dude he almost rode the tricycle almost
got the belt almost got the belt a lot of pressure
yeah that's like a lot of pressure i don't even
know so much pressure so anyways the next morning
she's feeling really sad calls her skypes her
dad who they haven't talked to in forever and
he's like I think you should come home she's
like okay cool I'll do that or whatever what's
it about her with daddy issues yeah I don't know
but yeah anyways so throughout this movie she's
like trying to write a song for whatever reason
and it's about the Taurus and the hare and it's
really about them and they have like she's throwing
this like her flatmates are throwing this 90s
college party the 90s thing she's from the 90s
that's why they did that so the final scene is
her at this college party like he He randomly,
like, thinking that he, like, the missions got
fucked off and just went, like, just left. Fucked
off and became a lumberjack. Yeah, no. He comes
to the party while she's there, while she's performing
the song, and then they embrace, and then they
have a passionate kiss, and that's the end. Oh,
nice. But she's supposed to leave for Seattle
in a few days, so, like, that's where it ends,
I guess. Wait, they don't even resolve that?
No. Which, like, I don't really need this herself,
but yeah. The idea is that she's going to move
back in with her dad. Yeah. Okay. It's going
to be awkward to bone. Yeah, from that far, you
know. Yeah, I mean, it's not like it was... I
can't wait until All Right Now 2. Yeah, so did
you guys watch the trailer for this? No, I...
We should have done that. Yes, I killed myself
on it. Okay, good. Me and Andre watched it. Oh,
boy. I'm the only one that missed out on the
screen. Yeah, like, I don't know. I try to watch
all the trailers of, like, even the bad movies,
because it's just... I want to know where to
lead you guys in conversation, that kind of thing.
And this one was hard. Yeah. It's really bad.
Like, really bad. Yeah, no. And, yeah, the trailer,
I will say, was very indicative of the quality
of that movie. Yeah. I mean, like, there's, like,
some okay character moments with Kobe, I guess,
but I don't know. It's just... Yeah, didn't do
it for me. What's your rating? Yeah, I was just
going to say moment of truth. Oh, gosh. I don't
even know what the metric would be for this.
I would say... Awkward guys out of... No. Guitars?
I would say, yeah, it was going to be... How
many blue balls out of five? I think a lot of
blue balls. I would say 1 .25 smash guitars.
Out of five. That's actually not that bad. So
they don't have sex. No, but I think they're
going to. I'm not going to watch a sequel. It's
implied that they're going to make it. They were
really setting up for a sequel. They're really
open for that sequel. Really leaving room there.
That was whatever, man. Sorry if you were really
excited for that movie that's been on Hulu for
a couple years. They passed. Direct -to -DVD,
or Hulu, I guess. Direct -to -Hulu. That brings
us to our next part, guys. What are we... What
are we feeling about movies coming up in the
next couple of weeks, next couple of days? All
right. I'll start off. Okay. So I recently did
the AMC A -list. Welcome, dude. Welcome to the
club. I'll most likely only keep it for the summer.
Yeah, right. That's fair. That's to do. Being
in the most expensive tier, although it's not
like it was that much more compared to the other
ones. No, I mean when you pay for it. Oh, yeah.
So I think I definitely want to see John Wick
3, Shazam. Those are two that I'm going to see
right when I get back from vacation. Obviously,
Spider -Man's coming out. Is that June? That's
July. July? Can we talk for a hot second about
how awful that new poster is? Oh my god. It looks
fake because Jake Gyllenhaal is there with his
beard and it looks like it was just pasted in.
It looks like somebody made an excellent edit
and made it a PS2 cover game. They did that to
the Black Panther one as well. Not the actual
theatrical release one, but the one before that.
Here's the poster. Oh, God. Wow, this looks like
fan art. Yeah, exactly. Oh, no. It's Sam Jackson,
Tom Holland, and Jake Gyllenhaal looking kind
of at the camera. Tom Holland's looking off.
With a fake grayish spider behind them almost.
I'm fine. It doesn't matter. It's not going to
affect the movie. The trailer looked good. Honestly,
I don't even watch trailers anymore. I did watch
the Spider -Man one just because, you know. Plus,
it has the Avengers spoiler in it. It does have
an Avengers spoiler. What? Oh, shit. Do I say
that now? Yeah, I mean, like, there is a version
that they... edit out the part where he was announcing
that there's going to be a spoiler. Oh, really?
Yeah, I mean, somebody did that purposely. Oh,
yeah. Screw people over. I mean, it gives away
the entire endgame. Yes, right. Cool. Yeah, I
don't know of any other ones that are really
coming out. Dude, John Wick, yeah, my endorsement.
I look forward to hearing what you guys are looking
forward to since, you know, I have a movie pass.
Yeah, me too. You want to go, Mike? Sure, I'll
go. I'm looking at a bunch of movies that are
coming out. One of them that I'm looking forward
to is Rocketman. Rocketman! Coming out at the
end of the month. It is basically, it's the same
director who did We Will Rock You. Or not We
Will Rock You. Bohemian Rhapsody. Bohemian Rhapsody.
Wrong song. I saw the musical. No, I saw the
musical We Will Rock You. Got it. It's the same
director, but this one is about Elton John. And
he was the director from the start. Let's say
that. because Bohemian Rhapsody was originally
directed by Bryan Singer. Exactly, yes. Yes,
sorry about that. But it's the same director
who finished Bohemian Rhapsody. He did this Rocket
Man. It is, again, another gay musical artist,
which is kind of great, though, because they're
now going to dive more into that. With Bohemian
Rhapsody, even though I enjoyed it, it didn't
really ever focus on, like, Freddie Mercury's
actual, like, behind -the -scenes life. Nope.
This one is actually going to. Plus, they've
also said that it's going to be a little more
whimsical because they're going to show drug
trips and that kind of stuff. What he saw. And
so it's going to be... He's going to perform
and all of a sudden fly off into the sky. It's
going to be crazy. And the trailers show that
a little bit. Exactly. And so I'm looking forward
to it because they've said... early reviews for
this movie is that it's better than Bohemian
Rhapsody. Thank God. I enjoyed Bohemian Rhapsody.
Personally, I was not a fan of Bohemian Rhapsody.
There's a lot of things that could have been
better. And so this one I'm actually looking
forward to more because they're saying it is
better. I originally wanted to go to it, but
then I heard the mixed reviews where some people
were like, oh yeah, it's really good, but at
the same time... If you like Queen hearing the
music loud in the theater, that's what it's made
for. That's a good point. It plays the hits.
I mean, it's fine. Kurt's Bohemian Rhapsody is
queen. The band had a lot of input on it. So
much. And this one, yes, Elton John has some
input on it, but he really wants to tell a more,
like, truthful story. Okay, right. He wants to
tell the love. It's not just a victory laugh
for... Exactly. Is it going to still be positive?
Sure. Which wouldn't be far from the truth, right?
He has a positive end to his life. Yeah, exactly.
what we know of his life you know he's a freaking
knight so yeah i mean the public reception is
positive right yeah it doesn't like fall out
of line that this movie portrays it in a exactly
but there's going to be some parts where it seems
like it's going to go a little deeper i'm sure
he has his low moments so cool Alright, so this
movie I'm not even excited for. I'm just morbidly
curious about Dark Phoenix. Dark Phoenix. I forgot
about that. All of a sudden there's a trailer
for it. The issue is I really enjoyed First Class
when they redid that because I mean, everyone
had kind of the same opinion with, like, X3,
but I even think, like, it was better than the,
you know, original X -Men. It's my favorite X
-Men movie. Yeah, so, you know, I really enjoy
that storyline with the characters that they
have, but I don't really know where they're going
with the Dark Phoenix. Well, dude, I mean, like,
so Days of Future Past was fun, too, but Apocalypse
was... I know. Didn't do it, dude. Did not do
it. It just reminded me way too much of... x3
yeah it was it felt like a throwback to the old
super moves the early stones in a bad way yeah
exactly no it was in a bad way yeah And Dark
Phoenix, like, honestly, like, it's in this really
weird spot where, like, it was obviously filmed
and made before the Disney Fox merger. Right.
And so it's in this weird spot where, like, well,
we have this movie, this finished movie that's
not part of the MCU that we kind of have to put
out, you know, but, like, what do we do with
it, right? And I honestly think it's going to
be awful. Like, that's, like, that's not a hot
take at all. Like, everyone thinks it's going
to be awful, but I'm so excited for it to be.
Don't make fun of it. Oh, I'm not going to say
it's going to be awful. That's why they put it
out. It'll make money. It's almost like they
took some of it back just to save money, like
cut some of the more CGI parts. Yeah, right.
But honestly, all of the posters, every single...
shot that I've seen for the trailers, the actors
look so bored in that movie. It reminds me of
the Assassin's Creed movie with one Michael Fassbender
in it where he also looked bored as hell. And
that movie was nagging. I mean, I got through
15 minutes of that movie. That's it. I could
not do the rest of it. I mean, I don't play Assassin's
Creed for the story, so I don't know what I was
thinking, but it was bad. fuck around in history.
Yeah, right. Which is, whatever, anyways. So,
yeah, Dark Phoenix, I'm morbidly curious, and
the fact that, like, hey, I'm gonna go see it,
even though I know I think it's gonna be bad.
I will too. And, like, I just like First Class
so much that it makes me angry when, you know,
those films are so bad. Yeah, and to be fair,
honestly, I think Sophie Turner, great casting
for Phoenix. Oh, yeah, she'll be good. She'll
be good as Jean Grey, Phoenix, but it's still,
I mean, it's good in a movie that's going to
be bad. Yes, right, I just think she looks horrible.
Just to be clear, she's played Jean Grey, like,
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was in Apocalypse.
I just wanted to make that clear that it's not
like a new casting choice. They started there,
probably already knew that they were going to
lead there. Yeah. And they alluded to how powerful
she can get at the end of Apocalypse. Right,
yeah. But they don't show the dark side. Right.
Yeah, so I'll wrap this thing up. Godzilla, King
of the Monsters. Let's go. Let's just watch two
hours of monsters beating on each other. The
best part, it's 132 minutes. Let's go. Your boy
is all in on this movie. Two hours and 12 minutes.
Are you a big Godzilla fan? For as much of a
fucking weeb that I am, I have not watched any
Godzilla movies. This is definitely something
that's close to Mitchell's heart. um before i
became a movie fan i was a godzilla fan okay
and this is back when i was a really really young
kid and i fell in love with the original kaiju
movies where it's a guy in a rubber suit kind
of swinging around finding another guy in a rubber
suit yeah and i've seen all i want to say this
is the longest it has to be one of the longest
running franchises of all time yeah like 27 yeah
or something like that i've seen every single
one probably multiple times so this is um even
even fucking like the 1999 1996 Godzilla no not
the American one not that one not the Matthew
Broderick I will say that the balls I've seen
it once so didn't they like make a movie where
like there's like shit like there's where it
is didn't like Japan make a movie with like where
like the real quote unquote Japanese Godzilla
totally fucks up the American Godzilla you will
love the name of that movie what's it called
it's called Godzilla All Out Monsters Attack
yes Wow, that's really good. Dude, this franchise
is bonkers. And funny enough, you bring up that
movie. Just looking at the previews for King
of the Monsters, which, by the way, was the original
title for the first Godzilla movie when it was
brought over to the U .S. Anyway, so the King
of the Monsters, this version. Looks to be taking
a lot of its cues from All Out Monster Attack,
where you have just basically all the monsters
coming at each other, with the three main ones
being Godzilla, Mothra, and King Ghidorah. Rodan's
in it. Spoiler alert, he's probably going to
be out of the movie within the first 30 minutes.
He's definitely the sacrificial lamb of the group.
It really seems like they have the How to Train
Your Dragon 2 scenario going on. You have your
Alpha... dragon you know yes and it's really
effing up stuff and so you have to have this
ringer come in you know toothless slash godzilla
yes and godzilla's got to be king right yeah
i mean i mean this time they're you know they're
reluctant to bring godzilla back so i can't say
it's a one -to -one comparison to how to train
your dragon too but yeah we'll see how it plays
out But from what it looks like, King Ghidorah,
who's the three -headed dragon looking thing,
has been long the main villain against Godzilla.
And that's going back to the 70s or the 80s when
Monster Zero came out, which was King Ghidorah's
original name. And Mothra, yeah, sorry. No, this
is awesome. No, I fucking love it. Yeah, what
I think is great is literally Toho, which was
the original production company of Godzilla.
They're doing a distribution for this one too.
Yeah, the license is out to Legendary, and they're
like, hey, you have all rights to these characters.
And they're building upon this. The next movie's
supposed to be... King Kong vs. Godzilla which
I'm very excited for so that's what they're building
towards I think it depends on the performances
so Kong Skull Island that's like part of the
same universe yes oh shit interestingly enough
there has already been a King Kong vs. Godzilla
movie that was made by Toho where famously Godzilla
loses guys yeah pretty crazy USA USA USA but
King Kong is monkey yeah he's like oh it's weird
anyway so um godzilla king and the monsters i'm
just excited about this i'm not sure if i'm gonna
review it for this podcast because really it
might be a bad movie i mean but like i hope that
it's a bad movie in the on all the right ways
though you know yeah and i'm so lenient with
these it's just like i i go into these understanding
wow this is probably gonna be really bad Just
as long as I have my battle sequences in there
and I get my Godzilla juices flowing. That's
how I felt about Detective Pikachu. That's how
I felt about Battle Angel Aelita. I think, at
least from the trailers, it looks really good.
All the effects that I've seen. Dude, the part
where somebody says, oh my god. That is the worst
though. That's the part where I'm like, roll
credits. I actually like that part. But I think
it's because I know that actor from somewhere
else and I can't place it but um he is uh it
would be a tough pull for me um But the Japanese
guy from the first film who had all the best
one -liners, by first film I mean the original
legendary Godzilla came out in 2014, he was saying
lines like, let them fight. Like some other BS
lines that are just hilarious because... Are
you talking about Ken Watanabe? Yeah, Ken Watanabe,
who was also in Detective Pikachu, by the way.
Oh, was he? Yeah, he has a stubble. Did he have
great one -line? Honestly, okay, I'm... I'm going
to be honest here. Oh, boy. Yeah, so I felt like
he fit in with the awkward acting throughout
the thing. Yeah, because it was really forced.
Yeah, it was forced. I feel like you could kind
of see him naturally be a better actor. Oh, totally.
But in this... Ken Watanabe is a good actor.
I'm just saying, like, isolating it directly
to this movie. I think also the... was the girl
reporter? Is she like a well -known actor? We
moved back. You segwayed. I segwayed. Andre got
back to his home. Let them debate. Let them debate.
Literally, he was like, your father was one of
the best detectives. I liked her better than
Justice Smith, though. He was just really awkward.
Super excited for this. I want more one -liners
from Homeboy, especially when the camera's slowly
pushing in on his face while he's singing. From
the outside looking in, I hope this movie sticks
to landing, because it looks like it could be
a lot of fun. Oh, God. It's probably going to
be trash, but I'm going to love it. We've got
to watch the Robin Lopez one. Oh, God. Yeah.
Well, the Robin Lopez commercials have been pretty
funny. I will say that. So, yeah. Has Brooke
made... He's made a cameo in those, right? Yeah.
That's right. He's like the executive producer.
Right. There's like three or four of those commercials.
I love them all. Yeah. Anyway, Godzilla, colon,
King of the Monsters. Okay. Very excited. Nice.
I think that's one of those movies where I wouldn't
see it, but then I have a, you know, like, a
little, like, subscription, right? The subscription
thing kind of is like, it makes that choice easier.
Like, yeah, I could burn, I could just go to
this movie, whatever. And, like, it looks good
enough from the trailers for me to, like, say
I'm alright with the time investment. Would I
be able to enjoy this without knowing the Godzilla
lore? I hope so. I would really hope so. I hope
so. Okay. Yeah. I mean, did you miss a lot from
the first movie, though? No, because Godzilla
comes back. No, but the thing is, is this has
like all the iconic monsters like Mothra, Ghidorah.
Right, so all you need to know, Mothra is considered
the savior, right? Okay. And it's a giant moth,
right? Wow, how'd you know? Okay, I'm just making
sure I got my monsters right, alright? Looks
more like a butterfly than a moth. Yeah, right,
what the fuck ever. It's definitely the more,
it's the more peace. worthy of them all. Okay.
Godzilla's more destructive but still looking
out for the humans or whatever. Right. King Ghidorah
is all for destruction and ruling over everything.
Is this a three -headed man? Yes, exactly. He's
the quintessential villain. Okay. And then Rodan
is the pterodactyl looking thing who kind of
just plays the role of, oh, he's going to die
first. Oh, gotcha. Is he like the star screen
of like, yeah? Well, I mean, but he's not like
the sidekick to anyone. Oh, okay. Is he like
kind of following things or like, what's that?
Is he following any? Um, from, From what the
trailer says, kind of playing out there, this
is a free -for -all for dominance among the monsters.
See, I thought it was the one main one was the
alpha, and then Godzilla was the alpha. They're
trying to be the alpha. And King Ghidorah, I
think, emerges as the alpha to start, and then
they go from there. That's what I'm assuming.
I'm just waiting for the giant robots to show
up. That's when I get it. Pacific Rim? Yes. Pacific
Rim was my Godzilla. Was that legendary? Pacific
Rim? Oh, it might have been. I have to look that
up. That'd be interesting in the future if these
do up. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, shit. Well, I mean, honestly,
they totally shit the bed with the second one.
All right, so the kaiju famously, and then we'll
move on. Yes. And the podcast. A guy, again,
in a suit. Homeboy's name was Jet Jaguar. And
Jet Jaguar literally could shrink down to human
size and talk to people and then grow to Godzilla
size. Pacific Rim was a legendary picture. What
movie wants to say that says Godzilla, King of
Monsters? Cut it. Cut the podcast. Cut the podcast.
That's why I said it. Alright, well, that'll
do it. Do you guys have any last words? Oh, man.
I think we've already gone long enough. Yeah.
Have you heard about our Lord and Savior, Godzilla,
King of the Monsters? Okay. If you want to hear
what Mitchell guessed the finale of Detective
Pikachu, you can listen to it after this. Hold
on. I didn't say one thing about Detective Pikachu
that I really wanted to say. Cut it. No, stop.
It was really important. Andre kept interrupting
the entire time. Oh, fuck you. Fuck you. It was
my review. You're right. Fuck you. Andre versus
T -Dog Civil War. I think I'm on that. I would
say go see it if you've been a Pokemon fan. Know
you've played the games. Actually enjoy the source
material. If you don't, don't go see the movie.
I think if you're a lapsed Pokemon fan, it's
for you. The main character is very much written
like a lapsed Pokemon fan. He was a fan as a
kid. Yeah, that's fine. I just mean like... If
you haven't played the games... Right. If you
have no reference at all. Don't go to the movie.
Yes. Like, I mean, you might... If you have kids,
maybe, you know, even if they haven't played
the Pokemon games, I don't know. They'll still
like it. They'll still... It'll be fine. It's
cute characters. Yeah. Yes. If you're above,
like, I don't know, 10 years old and haven't
played the games, don't go to the movie. Oh,
yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. So listen to what
Mitchell thinks happens at the end of Detective
Pikachu. Fucking guessed it. He nails it. Yeah.
And tune in next time for Game for a Movie. See
ya. Bye. Bye. What am I gonna do about Pikachu?
Yeah, Pikachu should be spoiled. Well, it's fine.
I mean, like, I don't think... No, there's...
He's not going for writing. Yeah. I'm not gonna
give away the one part. Okay, sure. Okay, I'm
gonna give away the biggest spoiler. Yeah, that's
fine. Okay. I know exactly what you're talking
about. You know what we're talking about. Ryan
Reynolds was in the Pikachu the entire time.
So he, like, pops out and he's just like, did
I catch that? Wow, that was a guess. Wow. That
was a yes. I wish you were recording this. That
was amazing. Are we recording it? Yeah. Hey,
Don! I could write Detective Pikachu. So I'm
going to splice it in somewhere. Yeah, I thought
you, like, knew it. No, yeah, yeah. That was
amazing. That was a shot in the dark. Yeah, so
that's... All right, so... I love how you said
it as a joke, too, because it's so dumb. Because
it's so absurd. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. You're
right. Woo!