Yeah, that's another sound for another Game for
a Movie podcast. This is episode 10. 10! We made
it 10 episodes, guys. We're already double digits.
Yeah. I am your host, Mikey Tank. I am joined
by... Andre Bellinger. Mitchell Clements. T -Dog.
T -Dog! T -Dog! Welcome back, T -Dog. It's good
to have you. Wow, big bark. Actually, we said
T -Dog never left, right? T -Dog's just using
a voice modulator? I wasn't sure the last time
I've been around. T -Dog is more... Was I here
last? T -Dog is... Obviously the friends that
we've met along the way, Andre. Yeah, definitely.
Not a real thing. The real T -Dog. That's the
real T -Dog. The real T -Dog was inside of us
all along. Yeah, absolutely. We're going to get
this thing started with some shout -outs. First,
beer shout -out. We've got two Rhodes. Road to
ruin double IPA. Road to ruin double IPA. We've
got Trogues Perpetual IPA. And both of you two
are drinking that. Me and T -Dog. I like Trogues,
but... I'm not a huge Imperial. They're definitely
going to sponsor us now. Yeah, wow. Dude. That's
what the shout -out's all about. They would send
me some stouts or, you know. Wear yourself out,
T -Dog. Once. Once. And I am drinking Beard Brewing
Dogs and Boats. I also have a koozie from Lord
Hobo because we were there yesterday. Boom sauce.
Boom sauce. Yeah, great. Oh, I do like that.
I really like the beard. The beard? I love dogs
and boats. I had one earlier. It was... It was
a double IPA, but it wasn't Dogs and Boats. Dogs
and Boats may be my favorite beer of theirs.
Have you tried Boats and Hoes? I have not tried
Boats and Hoes. I don't think it's a real beer.
You should try it sometime. We're also going
to give a shout out to our number one fan, guys.
Hey! Yes, we do! Adrian, thank you for listening.
Oh, I thought it was my mom. Okay. Pseudonym?
Yeah, she doesn't listen. The only thing she's
subscribed to is me. Oh. Wow. All right. But
you can subscribe to the podcast. Yo, Adrian.
But for real, man, that's a cool shout out. Yeah.
Number one fan. We love him. Really. Thank you
for listening. He gives us feedback, that kind
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to write it in a review or on Facebook or whatever.
Game for a Movie Podcast. You know how to find
us. Dude, my favorite review was on the Apple
Podcast one, and it said, I was looking for a
movie podcast, and sure enough, this is one.
I mean, I feel like that was either one of us
or... I thought that was you that wrote that
straight up. Oh, okay. Well, I was trying to
be clever here, but okay, I've been found out.
I'm now seen. Yes, I was giving myself my own
shadow. Wait, wait, wait. I don't even know if
that's a joke or not a joke. Just say, wow, this
is a hilarious review that I definitely didn't
write on my own. I thought everyone was in on
the joke and then you weren't. You wrote it?
I definitely wrote that. Oh, maybe Taco Bell.
Taco Bell Cantina. Oh, you were freaking there.
Yeah, we were all there. Someone had to go to
bed. After one of those margaritas, with a little
Mountain Dew in it. Yeah, it's awful. That still
made me, oh. I still want to go there someday.
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So, without further ado, let's jump into some
movies. Oh boy. We have three movies this week.
Only three. We need to double down on one because
it was so intense. So, Mitchell lost his own
challenge. Which is fine. So he's the loser.
And then T -Dog actually wanted to see this movie
as well, so they are going to double dip on the
bad movie review. What does that say about T
-Dog? Where he openly said, I want to see this
movie. He also had the... mindset to walk out
halfway through that is also true yeah i still
can't believe you walked out that's crazy i love
it i mean you know i'm i subscribe to a -list
oh sure you're right One, I hadn't been utilizing
the subscription as much, you know. And, yeah,
so really it was just a time investment at that
point. A time investment, really, and a monetary
one. I respect that. It's a baller movie. It's
great. No, it's good. I knew it was going to
be shitty going in. I didn't know how shitty,
but we'll find out. We'll find out. What a tease.
What a tease. Why did the T -Dog walk out? More
after this. What movie as well, after this. But
first, I guess I'll jump into it, and then we'll
go to Andre, and then finish with you guys. Sounds
good to me. I saw two movies this week. I saw
Men in Black International. I saw Toy Story 4.
You guys wanted me to talk about Toy Story 4.
Some of you have not seen it, so I'm also going
to limit the spoilers and talk most of my time
about a certain thing. Ooh. About toys. Toy Story
4, I think, was unnecessary, but at the same
time, I loved every second of it. It was a great
movie. Okay. So it sounds necessary. It was not
necessary, but I will give a Toy Story four out
of five. Wow. That was pretty quick. It was good.
All right, on. We're talking for a third sequel
to have that strong of a review? Yeah. I think
this is one of my favorite series as a whole,
just like overall what movie I love. I think
two is probably the weakest for me. Which is
crazy because 2 is, and I guess I would agree,
but 2 is also really good. 2 is fantastic. It
is. I would sit down and watch 2 any day. So
it's one of those things where this whole movie
series was very great. On to the... The sticking
point here. I want it to be known I do support
small businesses. I do like... Oh, boy. It is
a deep dive. Oh, it is a deep dive. Hey, guys.
Mike is about to shit on a mom and pop theater.
Oh, yes. Are we fucking ready? Bowtie Cinemas.
Oh. I have had four bad experiences at Bowtie
Cinemas, and I think I've seen a total of six
movies there. Wow. That's not a good average.
It's four out of six bad. Yeah. If I get to the
Hall of Fame, though. If you have. to sponsor
our podcast, it'll now be five out of five stars
for both sides. Nope, it's not. Sorry, I'm not
letting them sponsor us. This one, basically,
what had happened was about ten seconds into
the movie, the movie cut out, and then it went
back and showed the three ads before the movie
and started again. Nice. So already off to a
bad start. And so we're going through the movie.
It's fine. Like, we're enjoying it. There's a
bunch of kids at this screening. Obviously, it's
Toy Story. You know, there's a bunch of kids.
Ten minutes to go in the movie. Like, the most
poignant part of the movie. The most driving
home point of the movie. The emotional climax.
The emotional climax. Ten minutes in? No, ten
minutes left. The lights turn on. And kids in
the theater are going, oh, is it over? They start
talking, and they're kids. I get it. I'm not
trying to shit on the kids. That's illegal. Jesus.
Don't try that at home, everyone. Shit on kids
is bad. But it's just one of those things where
kids start talking because the lights are on
and it just took us out of the movie. It ruined
the movie for us. I still give it a 4 out of
5 because you can see the moment. You can see
what they were building up to. But it was just
one of those things where it's like, this is
ridiculous. Why is always something going wrong
at this movie theater? Same thing happened. I
tried to see three billboards outside Evans,
Missouri. We got to 15 minutes left in the movie
and the projector started a small fire. Jesus
Christ. Wait, what? Yeah. Did you smell it? Or
could you see it on the screen? No, they said,
like they had somebody come in and they were
just like, hey, we had a small fire in the projector
room. It was able to be put out. We're going
to move you to another theater. Great. Great.
Okay. You know, fine. Whatever. We're going to
see the last 15 minutes of the movie. They started
the movie over again. I had to sit there for
four hours to watch the end of this movie because
I didn't know what was happening. Like, I was
just... And movie's fine. Yeah. You know, it's
a decent movie. I've watched it since. It's fine.
Right. But to watch the movie again for the final
15 minutes sucked. Yeah, it was rough. Yeah,
it's just, it is absolutely, it's just a slog.
You're going through this movie, it's a slow
burn, like there's things that happen, but it's
just, and at the end too, is there anybody who
wants to see this movie that doesn't have spoilers?
I've seen it once and I'm good. Go for it. I
haven't seen it. Do you want to see it? I want
to see it. Okay. We'll leave it on the table.
Where did we see Justice League at? That was
about time. I was about to bring it up. Did you
guys also have a problem? We went to see Justice
League. Great movie. Also 4 out of 5. Also 4
out of 5. I give it a 1 out of 5. 1 .5 out of
5. The movie starts, I think one, it was just
down for a little while. That was the first issue.
We had that from seeing Logan Lucky. I think
that was fixed fairly early on. That was, yeah,
very quickly. But Logan wasn't fixed. However,
so it seemed like, you know, the screen, I was
like, man, this is a really interesting choice
for this. Yeah, really, because it feels really
close. Yeah, because it feels closed in. You
have this zoomed in view. You can't see most
of the picture. So it ends up like finally I
realize that it's their screen. It's their screen
because what tripped us off was there was a subtitled
part, right? And then the subtitles were cut
off and you just had that realization where like,
oh no. Yeah, this is not the actual film. This
is the theater showing this that's really fucking
it up. Yep, so the aspect ratio was off on the
projector and this theater itself. Um, I'm not
sure if you mentioned it, but we were also in
like a super tiny theater. Yeah. Like, okay.
So super tiny. Um, and people were talking and
like also complaining, which added to the experience.
Right. Cause it just ruins the movie for you.
Exactly. Even if it's not a good movie. And it
was not. Yeah. No. It was Justice League. Yeah.
Yeah. I did like, I will. be a stand for the
moment when Superman looks at Flash when Flash
is running at full speed. But anyway, that was
a cool moment. Yeah, they had cool moments. You're
okay with that, yeah. But it was not $10 for
the ticket cool, but it was cool. No A -list
at Bowtie. No A -list membership at Bowtie. Well,
the funny thing is, so the movie, the ad before
it... It's like, movie viewing the way it used
to be, only better. That ad played twice. Whoops.
Yeah, so, yeah. Shots of bowtie. Sorry that my
movie review ended up being me shitting on bowtie.
Oh, it's fine. No, it's fine because I want to
see it. Don't go to bowtie. All right, yeah,
well, I'm not. Is that just like a Hartford place
or do we know, is it in Connecticut overall?
There's multiple... of whatever their thing is.
Yeah. Because it's Criterion Club or something
like that. Right. So there's like Criterion theaters.
It would suck because the Criterion collection
is such a high bar in movies. Yeah, right. And
for that kind of theater to roll out that kind
of product or service is awful. It's ridiculous.
And this is my fourth bad experience. Like I
could go on for an hour talking about all the
experiences I've had. The two most prevalent
though are Three Billboards and Toy Story 4.
Yeah. Especially with Toy Story 4. It ruined
it. And then for Logan Lucky, they basically
said, we can't show you this movie. 38 locations.
Colorado, Connecticut, Maryland, New Jersey,
New York, and Virginia. Geez. All those states
are screwed. Yeah. Well, and basically, like,
for Logan Lucky, they just kind of said, we can't
show you this movie because it's not working.
Man. Okay? Ouch. And so, like, what are you going
to do about it? Well, we can give you your money
back. Okay. I bought it on Fandango. Like, I
had a fee. Yeah. Can I get that back? Oh, no,
we don't do it. right so i paid three bucks which
is a fee for nothing yeah i mean that sucks but
also like i can also see why they can't get it
no i get it but it's one of those things you're
you're very right to be annoyed they showed us
30 seconds of the movie right it wasn't like
we saw any of the movie right right all of a
sudden it just cut out yeah so but anyway but
good movie bad experience good movie you would
recommend five toy stories boy five toy story
good review would you watch it would you i mean
without i'm sorry go ahead no i was just going
to say good review i liked it we just really
hammered on bow tie and then said good work toy
story good work toy story no like the fact that
they made this movie i was expecting it to be
terrible or not terrible but like i was going
in with no expectations i wasn't expecting it
to be as good as it was because it was just it
felt like it had wrapped in three Totally. Oh
yeah. Oh, they totally did. That's why I have
to go in with this one with checked expectations
in that. Okay. No matter what happens in this
one, three is still like, that was still such
a perfect ending that I can let that. And what's
weird about this one is it feels twice. Like
it could go both ways. It could be done or it
could be a spinoff kind of thing. Gotcha. Would
you watch a Toy Story 5 if they say, we're putting
out Toy Story 5 2021. The way they have hit it.
At this point, I'm just... I think you have to.
They built so much goodwill with their storytelling
with these characters. Look, I think one of the
things that benefits it is the big gap between
all these movies. Outside of Toy Story 1 and
2... I think that was the closest in years where
the movies were released. And that was still
like four or five years, wasn't it? Yeah. And
that's like a typical turnaround time for an
animated feature. Sure. But to go from Toy Story
2 to Toy Story 3, which came out in 2010. Big
gap. Now we're talking 2010 to 2019. A nine year
gap. I mean, there's time to work out the story,
which at the end of the day is what these movies
should all be about. If they get the script right,
we know the animation is going to be there for
Pixar. Exactly. So I think as long as they take
their time and it's not a cash grab like Cars
3, like Pixar is going to be in a good position
to make movies like that. So four years from
the original to the second one, 11 years from
the second one to the third one, and nine years
to the fourth. Wow. So I guess last question,
it's kind of an unfair comparison, but would
you say that you enjoyed this as a sequel more
than Incredibles 2? I liked Incredibles 2, but
was a little disappointed by it. That's just
the last Pixar sequel. But also because I love
the Incredibles 1 so much. I would say Incredibles
1, besides Toy Story 3, I think Toy Story 3 and
Incredibles are similar levels, maybe just an
edge for Toy Story 3. I would say, though, that
Incredibles beats Toy Story 1, 2, and 4. Okay.
It's obviously apples and oranges. That's just,
you know. And then Incredibles 2 was a disappointment
compared. I would love to do a Pixar ranking.
Like, how we did Marvel. Sure. I can do that.
That would be so cool. I'd be down with that.
Yeah. I'd love to see that. Finding Nemo? That's
your top pick? Finding Nemo might be my number
one. Wow. It's Nemo and Incredibles. I really
like Nemo. Incredibles might be mine. Yeah. Incredibles
and Nemo are my top two. I am a Cars 2 guy all
the way. All right. Andre is no longer on the
podcast. RIP to Andre. Yeah. All right. So, Andre.
You saw a movie. What did you see? I also saw
a movie. I saw Rocketman. Rocketman! Yeah. I
have to see it. Got to. The Elton John music
biopic. Who? Elton John. Is he famous or something?
He's kind of a niche rock. Is he Freddie Mercury?
Yeah, he's Freddie Mercury's brother, actually,
from another dimension. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. They have the same manager. It gets confusing.
Oh, that's great. Just remember, never trust
somebody with two first names. That's true. You
can. You can. It's in the Bible. It is in the
Bible. Anyways, Rocketman, yeah. This movie kind
of, I shouldn't say it surprised me, but it was
real solid. I really, I had a great time with
it. It was, at the start, it's kind of what I
wanted Bohemian Rhapsody to be. Yes! So, I guess
I am a very casual Elton John fan. You know,
I'm familiar with his classics, and obviously
he's a legend for a reason. Claire and I saw
him when he was in Hartford. Oh, really? He was
fantastic. That's sweet. That's awesome. Yeah,
that's cool. It was something, yeah, we bought
our tickets in January. The concert was in September.
Like, it was one of those things we'd be all
year for, kind of. Oh, yeah. Gotcha. Oh, it was
a great time. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah, but I
will say, like, just personally, I'm more emotionally
invested. Like, Queen, I'm actually a big fan
of Queen, right? So I was very disappointed with
Bohemian Rhapsody, but this definitely didn't
disappoint at all, to be honest with you. Yeah,
I guess... basic overall thoughts. Taron Egerton,
dude, everyone's saying this, but he melted into
the role. He absolutely nailed it. Love Taron
Egerton. I absolutely love him. Even in Robin
Hood, which I saw. You saw that? We will have
to have... It was not like, I'm going in, this
is going to be a good movie. I'm going in just
because I love Taron Egerton. So wait, for the
record, it's Egerton, not Egerton? I thought
it was Egerton. Whatever. Well, who's doing the
review? That's true. You're right. It's up to
you. Wow, thanks. I'll take the reins back. Darren
Eagerton. Eagerton. We're just shitting on this
guy's name. Anyways, he... Terran guy. Terran
guy. That guy. Kingsman dude. Yeah. Dude, I mean,
he sang all of the numbers and he fucking nailed
it. So, did that not take you out of the experience
at all? Because when you obviously know it's
not Elmer Johnson. Yes. So I think what kept
me from getting... Whatever. What kept me in
the experience is that all of his songs, I loved
the arrangements of them. They're different enough
that it's not just Elton John's classics on Spotify.
They're all rearrangements that are diegetic
within the film. Across the Universe did this
a little bit. I think it works better here than
it did in Across the Universe. Honestly, it feels
less forced. so I'd say narratively this movie
is going to hit all those beats you'd expect
to out of a music biopic if you've seen any music
biopic you're going to kind of know the rise
the fall the highs the lows and probably not
in order those people that are like well this
didn't happen until then yeah right which we
call which we call on these podcasts nerd look
I had a big issue with that with Bohemian Rhapsody
sure oh yeah definitely Big issues with that,
because it looked like Queen was trying to cover
up some things. Right, yeah. So, and then the
one reason, the big points in this movie's favor
is that they don't try to cover anything up,
I don't think, right? Like, they show the lows,
you know, and it's not just a victory lap for
Elton John, right? Right. So... That's fair.
Yeah. Oh, man, the choreography, the music is,
like, on point. Just... Oh, man, there are so
many, like, hype moments when he's playing for
the first time at the Troubadour in L .A. And
they do that iconic shot where, like, he's horizontal
with the piano. Like, they do a really cool moment
with that. Like, it's just, wow. Like, it really
sucked me in. And I'm not even that, you know,
huge into Elton John's music. But a lot of those
moments really, really resonated with me emotionally.
Yeah, let's see. I don't know. yeah acting's
great in this uh taryn egerton he's uh his his
fate the way he like his facial emotion is really
really well done and i fluffed up his last name
again i guess whatever but like eventually it
will be like the average of how you're saying
his name will be our pronunciation yeah definitely
for sure egerton egerton Terry, Terran guy. Terran
guy. Just go with Terran guy. It's better. So
let me bring this up, though. Yeah. So as much
as I'm not a fan of Bohemian Rhapsody, I will
commend it for how it treated the concert sequence
at the very end. Yes. Live Aid was completely...
Definitely. I was blown away how they pulled
that off from a cinematic standpoint. Yeah. It
sounds like that's what you were drawn to as
well with... Rocketman yes and it's funny because
the same director Bryan Singer started Bohemian
Rhapsody but he famously was booted off the project
yeah and the guy who finished it yep Dexter Dexter
Fletcher yes he directed from start to finish
Rocketman yeah so it sounds like he may have
brought the same he brought that back multiple
I would say multiple moments and Yeah, I think
that they're more powerful in that it's more
emotionally resonant because the actual narrative
around it works more, I guess. Got it, okay.
So when they were touring for Bohemian Rhapsody,
they asked Dexter Fletcher, you said this is
a fantasy biopic? Yes. Are there more fantasy
elements? Yes, I think that's very accurate because
it... Just the way, it all goes back to diegetically
putting in those music tunes, right? Where it's
not just, it's not just like in Bohemian Rhapsody,
it's very much like, you hear the music when
they're playing the concert, or it's in the background.
It's not, or they're like practicing, like it's
all, he's actually singing it or whatever, where
it's almost more like a musical in Rocketman,
where like, you know, it'll start out when it's
like, it starts out with his childhood, and like,
maybe he'll like, they'll have, they'll sing,
like his whole entire family will sing a song,
and they'll all have their own, their own soliloquies,
basically, in verse. So yeah, and I love how
they play with the tone at the beginning. It's
more jovial as he's finding out that he's a prodigy
at, you know, at music stuff. Yeah, really true.
It's more jovial, it's more upbeat, it's very
show -tuning, but then, you know, as we get into
that second act, and he's, you know, made it
huge, and he's starting to, you know, spiral
down a mental instability and all the drugs and
alcohol and stuff, like, it gets a little bit
more just psychedelic, I guess, and more, like,
you know, abstract and darker, frankly. I would
say the pacing of this movie also reflects that
mental state really well, where you'll just flow
in and out of scenes. Like, when he is, like,
at his lowest low in terms of sobriety, you'll
just be... He just shifts through, like, you
know, talking with people and stuff. Like, just
this perspective, it really draws you in. It's
like, wow, I have no idea what's happening, and
now it is Elton, you know? So, yeah. I mean,
again, narratively, it's all the beats you'd
expect. It's not going to be... huge, but...
Mitchell just moved in his chair and it sounded
like a fart. I swear it was the chair. I swear
it was the chair. I need to leave the room. If
it sounds like we're opening windows, we are.
But yeah, narratively, nothing to write home
about, but everything else around it was really,
really solid. And yeah, I've had Elton John songs
stuck in my head all week because of it. Love
it. I have to ask, is Philadelphia Freedom in
there? yes yes uh yeah i believe so i don't think
it's huge like not there are some songs i just
want it yeah okay like they cover the they cover
the game just inject it straight in my veins
they cover the game um so yeah i'm gonna give
this uh four tiny dancers out of five oh four
tiny dancers oh okay how cute yeah i like it
Tony Danza's. Got it. Tony Danza's. Hold me closer.
Tony Danza's. All right. All right. And we move
on to the bad movie. Oh, boy. Boys. T -Dog has
to lead off here because I love his story. This
is really T -Dog's story. I don't know how much
we covered in the podcast at all. Just briefly,
I guess. We were talking about it before. Let's
start off with I have AMC A -list. Yes, yes,
check. That would be the primary reason to go
to this movie is there was no financial obligation.
You've already paid. Yeah, I've already paid.
So it boils down to a time investment. And, you
know, I really enjoyed the first class and Days
of Future Past. I never got into the X -Men comics,
or comics in general, right? But like the 90s
cartoons growing up were amazing to watch. Especially
the Marvel. X -Men animated series was... Yeah,
different iterations of the X -Men through those
animated series. They were all great. So when
First Class and Days of Future Past came out,
those were amazing. And then you get to the apocalypse,
which... Did you see Apocalypse? I saw it. I
think it was one of those where I watch on my
laptop when I'm doing something else, and you're
like, yeah, this movie's not great. That's the
right way to watch it. And I still kind of like
the material of it, but not how it was portrayed.
how it, you know. You guys are going to give
me my first look into this because I did not
watch First Class through this. Oh, wow. I would
go back and watch First Class. Like, First Class
is amazing. It's on my list. It's not like it
was just, it just kind of lapsed. Okay, so it's
on your list. Like, legitimately go watch it.
And Days of Future Past, do you say both of those?
Yeah, we say both of those and then stop there.
Yeah, just forget, like, just assume that. I
feel like Days of Future Past is a good ending
point anyway. It's a great ending. Like, those
two. Very self -contained. Even if you just watch
First Class, you're going to be like, wow, this
is a great movie. Future just builds on it. I
didn't like it as well just because the sheer
coming in from the start of a series and being
novel compared to... the previous X -Men iterations.
It was a great start, like a fresh start. But
I would still watch both. So going into this,
I knew the movie was not going to be great. But
I just wanted to kind of see how it was, keep
Mitchell honest about it. I knew Mitchell would
shit on it no matter what. Yep. Well, not no
matter what. It had it earned. Yeah, yes. It
earned it. So, yeah, it really started off. It
reminded me a lot of Fantastic Four, Silver Surfer.
I don't even remember how much I watched of that
because that was another one you'd watch a little
bit of while you're doing other stuff and you're
like, wow, this movie's terrible. The problem
is I was young enough at that point. Where I
was just kind of like, oh yeah, this isn't that
bad. And now I've gone back and been like, oh.
Especially, it's the material that pulls you
in, right? The source material. You have these
character setups that were built from other materials.
That's the only attraction of the movie. And
Jessica Alba. Yeah. And Jessica Alba. I mean,
that's why you watched Barely Lethal last week,
right? Great film, man. Barely Lethal. So the
movie starts off extremely fast. Like, it's just
rolling through events, trying to get the buildup
of the Dark Phoenix. Do you know what the runtime
is, out of curiosity? It's two hours. Yeah, two
hours? Yeah. It felt like two hours. Yeah, it
just, like, you know. I don't think there had
been much discussion of really genes in the previous
three installments. Sophie Turner had only been
in the previous one, Apocalypse. Those newer
X -Men, not of the core. and you know they really
just plowed through like they go into space um
she basically gets fuck off to space yeah they
fuck off to space She gets fucked in space and
then they come back and she fucks up shit afterwards.
The three fucks of every story. Yes, yes, yes.
Fuck off to space, fucked in space. There's another
fuck that T -Dog missed. Wait, what? They get
back down to Earth and there are a few things
that happen and then Jean Grey's I guess Dark
Phoenix now, ends up killing Mystique. And then
at that point, I was like, okay, you know, this
movie is not going the best. It's not its best
self. So you just fucked down a theater. There
were like seven people. This was a couple days
ago. They were close. Isn't it already getting
taken out of theaters? Well, that's what Mike
mentioned, that it was already getting pulled
out. Wow, it was putting the timetable on this
movie. So, you know, I left. That might have
been like... An hour in, maybe? An hour in! Yeah,
that was... It was really almost a halfway point,
I think. Yeah, I want to say, it's like halfway
through the movie, and they build it, and clearly
your reaction says it all. They built it as this
moment where it's like a big turning point. I
was going to say, that seemed like a turning
point moment where she attacks her friends. She's
broken bad. Yeah, that's what she... And it...
Falls on deaf ears like it is it is executed
so poorly zero any there's zero chemistry between
Sophie Turner and Jennifer Lawrence first time
yeah well sorry one second like the entire I'm
assuming that this propagated through the entire
movie yeah it was literally just like they're
reading lines without emotion it is it was so
muted Jessica Chastain is the one who definitely
takes that to the whole new level where she's
possessed she's an alien who possesses a human
being and So is she the Phoenix, kind of? No,
no. Is she an alien? She's an alien that's looking
for the thing that made Jean Grey the Dark Phoenix.
They want to utilize the power, basically. That
race. They want to rebuild the race. Is that
based on... Is she an actual comic book character?
So I'd never read the Dark Phoenix saga. I was
a DC kid growing up. But I did a little bit of
Wikipedia research. So that... alien race is
involved but not in the same way that's displayed
in this movie just frankly because of you know
it's a two -hour movie versus a very long saga
i mean oh sure the dark phoenix saga yeah you
gotta change stuff that's fine i think this would
have been so much better as a series like a little
mini series or whatever where if you had actors
who were dedicated in a script that i care that's
why i think the stories Like, that it's based
on is good. The movie stories are good. That's
the issue. The source material of this stuff
is good. They've tried it twice now. What? Oh.
In the movie stories. Yeah, exactly. In the movies,
yeah. Well, this is why I really hope that there's
some sort of... I mean, like, the Marvel's Netflix
series was almost there, but I hope that there's
some high -budget, like... Game of Thrones -style
long -form show with superheroes. That could
work out, and you could adapt an arc like that.
I guess that's what Disney's betting with Disney+.
Exactly. I feel like a long -form TV series would
really work out for this story way better. It
totally would. The only one outside the comics
where I feel like it has been nailed. actually
done really well was the animated series. X -Men
animated series, that was my first introduction
into the Dark Phoenix series, and then I saw
X3, and now I've seen Dark Phoenix, and both
times have been awful. Outside of, you know,
the animated folks did it right. X -Men 3, that
was tough in general, just because the studio
made them. include the phoenix saga i actually
think it would really force that yeah yeah because
i think it would have been better they were talking
they had this whole story set up of they found
this cure for mutant dna yep and like i think
that would have been so much better as a story
by itself without forcing in the phoenix it was
just like spider -man 3 i think that x3 was better
than this wow i haven't seen it it's hard for
me to compare because of how long it's been since
i've seen it maybe maybe for me it's like the
acting like okay i felt like at least the actor
you know um in x3 they were actually trying for
something yeah they were just more um veteran
actors i guess um and you know they could Phone
it in better, probably. But to be fair, you have
Jennifer Lawrence, Oscar winner. You have Michael
Fassbender, who's a great actor. I didn't even
get to that part, right? He wasn't in the first
half of the movie. Oh, shit. You didn't see Michael
Fassbender. That's funny. That's really funny.
Michael Fassbender's in this movie, guys. It's
Magneto, of course. By the way, here's how they
use Michael Fassbender. Same way they use him
in Apocalypse. A big, pivotal scene where he's...
I guess battling Dark Phoenix. He is flexing
really hard and yelling. Because he's using his
powers. And that is the highest emotional range
that he shows throughout this film. Can Michael
Fassbender be cast in Dragon Ball Super Broly?
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. He should be top
of the call sheet. Who is Michael Fassbender
in Broly? Oh, Vegeta. He has such a Vegeta vibe.
Dude, yes. Ironically, let's bring back live
action Dragon Ball. Get Fassbender in here. I
think if you recast Dragon Ball. as like a Shakespearean
kind of thing, Michael Fassbender's your Vegeta.
All right, so I was talking about this before,
but if you haven't seen Frank, not before, but
I think maybe... We were talking about this because...
Watch Frank because it's an indie. It's like
more of an indie movie. It's the one with the
guy with the... Yeah, okay. Paper mache head.
Yeah, yeah. It's like... It's not a generic type
movie, so you might not like it at all. I mean,
it's a limited appeal, but it's a strong movie
for what it tries to do. Gotcha. Can I shit on
this movie real quick? Oh, yeah. Okay. Can I
shit on Dark Phoenix real quick? Can I tap in?
Just don't shit on children. This is not okay.
In the podcast. Just don't shit on children.
That's not okay. Just don't shit on children,
Mike. Shit on the children. I peed on them. No,
no, no. Oh, no. Glow -ified in our county. Glow
-ified in our county. Oh, my God. I'm leaving.
I am editing that part out. Hard left turn back
into the conversation. Hey, Dark Phoenix, it
sucked. Dark Phoenix is awful. Guys, the biggest
sin that this movie commits, it is boring. As
bad as it is, it is a boring movie. I think alongside
that bad, or the worst thing, is that it has...
this great pool of actors and it doesn't utilize
them at all. Exactly. That goes hand in hand
with it. Absolutely. I also love on IMDb how
Sophie Turner is the fifth actor listed. She's
the star of the movie. She is the star of the
movie. Understood. I agree with that premise
from everybody in the ads. obviously, nowhere
near as much as she is. So I would think she
is the star of the movie. She is fifth on IMDb.
So who's at the top of the call sheet? Probably...
You want to play the guessing game? Is it McAvoy?
McAvoy is one. Okay. Fassbender? Two. Wow. Jennifer
Lawrence? Jennifer Lawrence. Three? Okay. Let's
get one more. Who's the guy who plays Beast?
Nicholas Holt four wow Nicholas Holt above I
don't know how Holt jumps Sophie Turner there
yeah that's crazy to me I think probably just
because they're the core team of that series
yeah and Sophie this is literally her second
X -Men movie She's coming off of Game of Thrones,
man. Oh, I know. I'm not sure if this is negotiated
in their contracts, which I know it is, but this
is her second X -Men movie where these people
have a longer history with dealing with box and
dealing with these characters. I think T -Dog's
right in saying that. How is Fassbender and the
parts that he was actually in? Look, they don't
give him anything to do. I mean, he's a guy who
I think, I mean, look. He could carry a film.
We've seen it a lot of times before, both as
the leading man in a movie like Jobs, or in a
movie, or Steve Jobs, the one with, you know
what I'm talking about, because there's like
two ones. Well, even his first class. First class.
He was not the star, but he was amazing. Honestly,
Prometheus, he was the most interesting part
of that movie to me as well. Exactly. Prometheus,
again, not necessarily the star, but still definitely
carries the movie in a lot of ways. And Inglourious
Bastards, where he has maybe 20 minutes of screen
time. But he soaks all of it up. This movie gives
them no room to do that. And that's mainly the
script just being terrible. It could be very
bad direction as well. As I said, a lot of the
performances feel muted, as T -Dog was saying.
Well, I think part of that, kind of as a side
note of that, Jennifer Lawrence and Sophia Turner
have a lot of screen time. What? Sophie Turner.
Sorry. Taron Egerton, Sophie Turner. We're all
good. A little bit different issues with that.
A little bit. put an A where an E was yeah um
so Sophia my favorite yes Sophie Turner my point
on their performances were they were you know
so emotionless and monotone yeah at least for
the parts that I saw um it was i don't know tough
to watch yeah like it's if you were if you were
to watch that yeah and and i did didn't know
like haven't seen any of their other movies or
something right now you think they're bad actors
oh yeah you think they'd be terrible. Absolutely.
My thing is this. This movie tries to cut corners
in so many ways. As you said, it's an hour and
53 minutes. Didn't even make it the two hours.
It didn't make it two hours and it didn't give
any of the emotional high points the work that
it needed to make those count. And what I mean
by that is the standoff between Mystique and
Jean Grey when they're confronting Jean Grey
who's out seeking her father. who she had been
separated from since she was eight, and she's
blaming Charles Xavier for separating her from
her dad, blah, blah, blah. Whole backstory thing
going on. Building to this moment, she's starting
to lose control of her powers. And Jennifer Lawrence,
who maybe has... three minutes of screen time
along with Gene in the movie of building up to
this point. Suddenly, this is the crux of the
scene where... Three minutes together and then
all of a sudden... I'm probably exaggerating.
No, no, but I get what you're saying. It feels
very underwhelming. They don't put in the work
of the relationship specifically between these
two characters. Now, if Gene had killed Cyclops
in this scene, for example... totally different
in my mind because that is and which they do
in x3 yes and that's kind of and that's kind
of better the stuff that i was getting now like
i feel like x3 was almost a better movie yeah
and you know they kind of built up that they
did a conflict better and they had the previous
two movies as well and i agree with that But
they also, what we have to remember about X3
is he died within like 20 minutes of the movie.
Yes, right. That wasn't the halfway point. That
was the end of the first act, basically. Yeah,
that was the shocker, like, I don't know. Okay,
sure. But if you guys watch Dark Phoenix and
look at the first half... I'm not saying that
it's necessarily worse or better or whatever.
I'm just saying, at the same time, they also
didn't build it up in X3 either. If you just
went in X3... But X3, didn't you have... Wasn't
there a little more history between Scott and
Gene? Yeah, in the trilogy. That's what I mean.
That's what I'm saying. If you go in straight
going, you just saw X3. You didn't see X -Men
1. You didn't see X -Men 2. It's splitting hairs
because you're going in with she only had one
movie. I can't believe you're defending X3 in
comparison to... I'm not. I think both are awful.
Now that I'm just saying this, how crazy. We
could play Script Doctor all day. Sure. But in
the end of it, it felt so mailed in. People knew
that this was going to be the last Fox movie
that X -Men was going to be under. And it definitely
felt like, okay, well, Fox was just bought by
Disney. Let's just get this thing out there because
we're contractually obligated to do that. that's
what it felt like it felt like a product of a
big machine that just did not give a shit about
the final product and i will say this kind of
rooting for jennifer lawrence when she died is
this like that is her dobby is free kind of moment
where she gets her sock okay she gets her sock
in the form of getting impaled by um i forgot
like wooden planks so anyway wait who killed
her uh oh uh dark phoenix of course kills her
wait so gene okay yeah Jennifer Lawrence gets
killed. Or Misty. Oh, sorry, sorry. Or Raven.
She gets killed by Raven. I messed up. I want
to know, how does it end? How does it end? Oh,
got it. So, as is true to the Dark Phoenix saga.
He didn't want to sit there. He wants the...
Oh, he wants to skip. I will say this. The better
parts of the movie are at the end, where... I
feel finally they start using action sequences
and using these characters' powers in really
cool ways instead of just Michael Fassbender
just, like, flexing and yelling. Like, Nightcrawler,
who I think has the best powers in terms of action
sequences, X2 brings that up to an 11. You can
do so cool with that. Oh, you can do so much.
And I will say this. They take a really dark
path where they start killing people, which feels
really out of touch. Cyclops yells fuck at one
point. They can really use that PG -13 fuck in
that kind of way. um but anyway um Outside of
that, here's how it ends. Dark Phoenix gets to
the point where she's battling the main alien
person, who's Jessica Chastain, who complete
male -only performance there. Very muted. Either
that or she really took the direction to heart
of just like, hey, any emotions that you want
to bring to this role, leave them at the door.
They might have actually wanted that because
they were trying to emulate that alien race,
which was an odd choice. It's not a good choice.
Anybody doing a movie, emotionless. is not the
way to go. It's not. It can have its moments
where you have a small minor character who is
emotionless, but they are minor characters for
a reason. You could be cold. But have emotion.
That's an emotion, though. Yeah. You could be
cold. And I think they whiffed twice in a row,
X -Men -wise, with Apocalypse, where you bury
Oscar Isaac, who's a very strong actor, in lots
of prosthetics and tell him to have a very understated
delivery. And you do the same thing with Jessica
Chastain without the makeup, but the same direction.
They did it with Lee Payson, Guardians of the
Galaxy. He was the same blue character under
a bunch of paint, but two very different villains,
from what I understand. understand obviously
i didn't see it but yeah you know what i mean
so anyway um dark phoenix ends up sacrificing
herself in space um and so she has her redemption
and there's a very, so you assume she dies, and
at the very end, the camera pans up, and you
see the beautiful sky overlooking Paris, because
that's where Charles, Xavier, and Magneto are
playing chess. And you look up at the sky, you
see a vision of a red phoenix going through the
sky. So she's still alive in some way, shape,
or form. Oh, wow. Dark phoenix, too. So, no.
No. No. So Charles and Magneto still live. They
live. Because I think at the end they still wanted
this to be connected to X -Men and X2 as eventually
big goals to become Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.
In nine years or whatever. I mean, the future
Days of Future Past tries to tie that in, right?
So it's kind of a continuation. As much as I
love that movie, you can't escape the illogical
approach. I was perfectly fine with that movie
doing some... Yeah. Beyond type connections.
I will say this. For Dark Phoenix, which is going
to get a terrible review from me, the way you
fix this, make it a series. I think that's the
best way for this to actually draw out the character.
And also, take a stand, have some balls, make
Jean Grey the actual villain. Right. Like, they
have this other alien creature for her to battle
and eventually redeem herself. And she should
have a redeeming moment because as a phoenix,
she'll rise again. But, like, you can't just
be, oh, wishy -washy about her being evil. And
then for fuck this bitch. Exactly. She has to
be evil. Like, that is a big part of the storyline.
You know what my Phoenix movie is? Yeah. So,
Jean Grey, bad guy. Nobody else she's fighting.
Scott Cyclops fucking finishes her. Unexpected,
like, trying to redeem her, and you kind of see
that old Jean Grey, and he just, boom, boom,
through their face while she's vulnerable. Like
a Man of Steel moment, I guess. While she's vulnerable,
because... They can't end it. Or they can't stop
her. Yeah, okay. He knows he can't stop her.
Yeah. She's so powerful, though. Like, that's
a thing. But I want that vulnerable moment where
Jean's talking. Yeah. Like, even though it is
Jean, it's like she's remembering, oh, I love
Cyclops. He's great. Maybe I can get back. And
then he just goes, pew, dead. Yeah, that's how
you build to it. Because that's a pretty unsatisfying
ending to me. Like, I don't know the way I explain
it this way. No, the way I explain it this way.
No, no, no. I see what you mean. I think at the
end of the day, she's the most powerful mutant
ever. And she turns bad. And the only one who
can beat her, essentially, is herself. And that's
what happens. So anyway, bad movie. I'm going
to give it a half star. They made it. um that's
it mitchell's era wow i love how it doesn't even
deserve a fun rating that's actually pretty poetic
you know what i mean like there's no yeah like
i i have like one funny line about dobby and
that's it like this is not a good movie I was
very upset. I know you saw half the movie. How
would you rate the first half of Dark Phoenix?
Which is the worst of the halves. The thing is,
like, for this podcast series, I've seen way
worse movies. Okay. Which is fine, but you can
still have the same rating. Yeah, right, right.
I just wanted to, like, you know, point that
out. That this was just, like, a boring movie
versus, like, a terrible... And for me, that's
the biggest sin. Right. I get it. Okay, actually,
another question. Did you have more fun watching
Lethal or Fairly Lethal? Yeah, I was laughing
at how dumb it was. And, like, unaware of how
dumb it was at times. Yeah, the issue was Holmes
and Watson or whatever the fuck that movie was.
Yeah. It was just fucking, like, terrible. I
can't explain how fucking terrible it was. I've
seen Green Lantern. That's how I feel about,
like... I've watched, like... 20 minutes of Green
Lantern. That's how I feel with Leo the Lion
and Yoga Hosers. Leo the Lion, I can laugh at
because they thought they were making a good
movie. Whereas Kevin Smith knows better. Fuck
Yoga Hosers. It was like on Holmes and Watson.
They were purposely doing that shit. I don't
understand the motivation. They made that movie
on purpose. I mean, I guess I'd give it, you
know, one Rising Phoenix out of five. Okay. So
an average rating of three quarters of a Rising
Phoenix. Three quarters of a Rising Phoenix.
Did you say Rising Phoenix? No, I just said Star.
Okay. He literally didn't give it a fun rating.
No, I love that. That's great. He gave it the
Mitchell Zero. Or should we say Dying, let's
say Dying Phoenix. Okay, sure. It's on the downfall.
Don't hold your breath. One Dying franchise.
So Dark Phoenix 2 will make it rise again. Yes.
I can't wait until Marvel takes reigns of the
X -Men. I wonder how they're going to do it.
Oh, it's going to be an end credit scene of one
of their movies. Oh, sure. Oh, totally. Where
there's just all of a sudden, and you just see...
It's just, oh, you see her chink, and then you
just see the claws. Oh, okay. Something like
that. I was going with, they're just going to
show you this person that doesn't know who they
are, or trying to figure out who they are. That's
me. But then they're going to be like, is this
the place I need to be? And then you just see
a sign, Professor Xavier's School for Gifted.
Oh. children whatever kids children kids whatever
kids Xavier always Xavier always seeks her out
though in the source material right yeah he's
able to find them through Cerebro yeah but I
don't want him in it I just want like the school
that's it like I don't want anybody yet right
It would be cool. I'm really curious what franchise
they latch it on to in terms of if they do an
end credits and which franchise are they going
to forever tie the X -Men to. Because that's
what you're kind of doing if you're doing it
that way. It would be interesting because you
could tie Spider -Man in, kind of. Right. But
I don't think it would be this soon. You know
what I want to see? I want to see... I don't
know if you remember any of the Spider -Man animated
series. But where he's... in a different dimension
or a different planet, and then he pulls these
other Marvel superheroes together. Do you guys
remember that? It sounds like a lot of Marvel
fiction. Yeah, he pulls Iron Man, the clobbering
guy. What's his name? That thing. Is it Secret
Wars are you talking about? Maybe. The series?
It was like a big event in the 80s and that's
how the Venom suit became the Venom suit. That
could be what it's built off of. I don't know
what the source material was but then like Doctor
Doom was kind of he was pulled over there and
I think he kind of was kind of the bad guy type.
He's always like this bad guy with good intentions
type character right i just yeah i just had a
tie -in point for spider -man now so like yeah
he could have been brought into x -men but i
just had an idea he's at the end of he's trying
to find that next leader kind of thing or he's
going to branch out on his own one of those things
what if he's taken in by reed richards That'd
be cool. Well, because he does try to join in
the very first Spider -Man, he tries to join
the Fantastic Four. Right, exactly. I think that'd
be a better fitting spot. Yeah. If we're tying
anything into Spider -Man. Which, there might
be nothing. Who knows? There could be nothing,
but I think it'd be great. That is a Herculean
effort that they'll have to put forward to make
a good Fantastic Four movie. Right. Because it's
been impossible outside the Incredibles. Which
may really kill Marvel. Because at this point,
they're at Endgame, they have Spider -Man, it
kind of feels like an ending point. Yeah, like
if they stumble and put out a bad movie, if they
put out a Thor Dark World now, you know? Whoever's
next has to hold the torch. Yeah, right. Human
torch. Whoa! So if they're going to tie in X
-Men, the most natural fit is through Scarlet
Witch. Yeah, that's fair. She is Magneto's daughter,
I'm not sure if they would extend that. But that
would be the most natural extension. Turns out
Michael Fassbender's been her dad the whole time.
What are they going to do with Quicksilver, though?
He dead. He dead, bro. He dead as fuck. Oh, he
dead. Did he die in the... He died in Age of
Ultron. He died in both? No, he died in Phoenix.
No, no, no. Oh, oh, that. No, they're just going
to reboot it. The box Quicksilver? You're thinking
they're just going to merge the Dark Phoenix.
What happened to him? Oh, he lives. He lives.
What is that? No, he's not going to be connected
back. They're going to reboot it. They're going
to recast. I get it, guys. Calm down. The point
was, there were two iterations. Fuck you. Hey,
the most recent one lives. I know you have a
codename, but I will fight you. I loved how they
portrayed Quicksilver and Fox as opposed to how
they did in Marvel. He's so much more fun. And
they show him in such a cool way. why you should
watch um well i've seen the scene where he does
i've seen that scene and that was that was really
i remember watching that in theater it coming
out of nowhere because no one knew it was coming
yeah the problem is now i know yeah now you know
it's still good it's always it's always how it
is well done anyway so that's our rating i'd
love to move on and talk about things that were
let's talk about yeah we're having emotions about
emotions let's talk about movies we have emotions
about yeah yeah yeah let's do it we'll start
with me Okay. Oh, wow. He wants to make sure.
Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. T -Dog's going to
lay down a real knee. So I'm excited about. Oh,
with the steel. All right. Go ahead. I'm excited
about two movies. Two? Wow. Whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa. Pick one. No, you're good. Mainly
because I can't think of other movies that are
coming out. I'll take two of the heavy hitters.
Spider -Man and then Joker. I haven't heard of
them either. We already talked about Joker. Fuck
you. Did that come out at Sundance? I totally
forgot. Both of those are very indie. I don't
know if you've heard of either one. Is that an
A24 film? It's definitely a Cannes film. Don't
jump me on it. Before, when we were talking,
I think... For Joker, at least, Joaquin Phoenix,
from the trailers, it seems to fit his type of
acting persona, other roles that he's been in.
Whether or not you like that or not, that could
very well be a selling or a point where you don't
go see the film. But it'll be an interesting
one. But it looks like it has a very unique take
on the character. Right. Which is awesome. Yeah,
exactly. It looks like it's not going for a broad
appeal if you're having a Batman character, I
guess. But still, it's looking like it's trying
to narrow its focus a little bit more. It's trying
to be an indie movie with an A -list budget.
Yeah, exactly. It's an A -list budget. It's an
A -list material. Everything about it is A -list.
And it's just this different perspective or different
take. Unique character take to the Joker. Yeah.
for the most part. And a lot of people were saying,
and I'm not sure if Todd Phillips, the director,
said this, or folks who watched the trailer were
just attributing this characteristic, but a lot
of people were saying this is as if the Joker
were existing in Taxi Driver, in that universe,
which of course says he built. Like a very grimy
New York. So, anyway, I'm super excited too.
I think it looks cool. I hope he says, you talking
to me? You talking to me? Maybe he just laughs
at himself. Did you guys watch Her? yeah absolutely
the Spike Jonze movie yeah love it that was probably
my favorite movie from that year it was really
good cool cool sick thanks for delivering on
you know like hey did you watch that and then
we just said yes yeah yeah yeah that was a movie
that I watched yeah Walking Venus no yeah Scarlett
Johansson yeah I love your wild Rooney Mara yeah
yeah those are all oh Chris Pratt Chris Pratt
I feel like that character that's portrayed there
is like oh sure kind of alongside the character
that's going to be in Joker yeah yeah yeah yeah
definitely like a reinterpretation of an outcast
yeah right and so that's that's the only reason
I brought up that character specifically yeah
I'm excited cool dude I have enough movies that
I'll wait until the end because I don't want
you guys to get your movie ticket. Are there
any, like, good dog movies? Oh, my God. Yes.
What was that? Dogs on Broadway? No, no. I need
to look it up real quick. It's, like, racing
in the... Dogs in Cars? The Art of Racing in
the Rain. Jesus Christ. That trailer played before
Rocketman. Oh, God. It looks like the cheesiest
fucking dog movie. What is up with this dog movie?
I will say this. I would love... Someone to do
a deep dive and see why these things are so damn
successful. Maybe it's plain because Americans
love dogs. We're rolling Dennis Quaid into being
the voice of a dog. He's not even a person in
the movie. He's just a voice. This is nuts. I'm
sure my mom loves it. My stepmom is going to
love it. I'm floored by what producer had this
idea of like, hey, you know dogs? We should just
make dog movies. What was the first one that
you would attribute to dog movies? Freaking Kevin
Costner is going to be the dog in this movie.
This is more bound. Even before that, we got
Old Yeller. Are we saying like, because there's
like the same production company who's been making
these dog movies? No, we're talking dog movies
in general. Like Lassie? Lassie, yeah. Do you
want me to go back there? It was really an honest
question. 101 Dalmatians. I would say 101 Dalmatians
and All Dogs Go to Heaven. Those are different
categories because they're animated. And you've
got to use Oliver and Company as well. America's
Affection for Dogs. You can't underrate that.
It's insane. It's insane. Like, I love dogs.
Hey, I love them too. I love them too. Okay,
but actual movies you guys are having a feeling
about. Okay, should I go? Go ahead. All right,
I'm going to shit on... I'm going to take this
moment to shit on Gemini Man for a little bit.
Gemini! Oh, it's not Rocket Man. No, not Rocket
Man. It's Gemini Man. No, played before Rocket
Man, which reminded me of how much it looks dumb.
This is the movie where it's Will Smith... It's
a retread, too. It's what? It's a retread. It's
a reboot. Oh, is it a reboot? Oh, I didn't even
know. So, yeah, this is... You're excited for
it? No, I think it looks dumb as hell. I didn't
know it was a reboot, then I guess, but whatever.
You don't like the... Well, so there was a mini
-series. No, I don't. Do you have an issue with
younger looking Will Smith? No, I think younger
looking Will Smith looks great. It's just the
fact that it's the premise is the most Metal
Gear solid ass shit fucking clone. A younger
clone is sent to kill the original soldier. That
is some solid snake. Literally the plot on IMDB.
An over the hill hitman faces off against a younger
clone of himself. Yep, there you go. That's the
premise. The trailer just looks so silly. I mean,
obviously they're playing around with the de
-aging tech that's been going around recently,
I guess, right? Sure, the Captain Marvel stuff.
Okay, it looked good in Captain Marvel. Yeah,
it looked really good in Captain Marvel. And
it looks good from the trailers. It does. I mean
the age progression. Not shooting on the effects.
Yeah, no, no, no. Me neither. I'm not. Oh, the
effects look dumb. It's just, I don't know. The
movie itself. It just immediately is like, this
just looks like a ripoff of Metal Gear Solid.
If anyone can sell the movie, Will Smith can
sell the movie. Kenny! We'll see. I said if anyone.
After Earth. I'm not so sure. I never saw that.
After Earth was bad. That's fair. Yeah, so I
don't know. That was just my little brief blip.
Gemini Man looks dumb as hell. Terminator Dark
Fate looks also dumb, but I'm probably going
to watch it. Well, yeah, at least you admit it.
Yeah, I think I'd rather see Gemini than Terminator.
Really? To be honest. I don't know. Dude, I lost
all faith in Terminator. What was the Christian
Bale one? Salvation. Ooh. That did not bring
any salvation to that franchise. No, it didn't.
But this one... eliminates Salvation from the
canon. Oh, does it? Yeah. I forget her name,
but they're bringing an original Sarah Connor
actress. Yeah, who is it? Oh, shoot. Linda, no.
Yeah, Linda something. Shoot. I'm mad at myself.
I can't figure it out. Linda Hamilton. Yes! Winner.
Thank you. Pretty good. Yeah, just that she's
back, you know, that's, like, cool. And, like,
James Cameron's producing again, so there's a
chance that it could be fun. There's a chance.
I mean, especially since it does, it gets rid
of everything since T2. Right. Right. Including
T3? Really? Including T3. That's fine because
the first two were easily the best. Oh, for sure.
So there's a chance that this can actually be
first. Yeah, I mean, you know, whatever. Yeah,
and another shout out to Mackenzie Davis who
I think is going to be one of the Terminators
in the movie, right? I think she's a good actress.
She's in my favorite Black Mirror episode called
San Junipero. This is going to be a very interesting
action scene. Sanjay and the Parrots were the...
Dogs. Not the dogs. They're two people who are
in this paradise. It's revealed later what that
paradise actually is. Two lovers, both women.
She's one of them. Oh, right. Sanjay and the
Parrots. I don't want to give it away. I realize
you're avoiding spoilers, but it took me. Anyway,
here's what I'm excited about. Midsommar. And
I know I brought this up before, but it's finally
coming out next week. And I am so damn excited.
Ari Aster is directing. This is his second feature
film. He previously directed Hereditary, which
was the horror movie that came out last year
that was a really big surprise hit for A24. And,
of course, A24 is back producing Aster's newest
film. And I believe, actually, it's pronounced
Midsommar, but I'm going to say Midsommar because
I'm not pretentious. yeah so I'm very excited
about this horror film that promises to make
you scared of broad daylight yeah that oh my
god I'm really curious I'm really scared to go
see it it looks really good though yeah so it
involves occult kind of ritual going on in Sweden.
I don't know where. Switzerland. Netherlands.
Look it up for me, Mike. But anyway, in this
far off Sweden land where all these, you know,
basically... Look at that. We have basically
a group of young people, teenagers, early 20s,
going out to this cult ritual that happens every
90 years. And you don't know what's happening
until you get deeper and deeper into the ritual.
So it sounds a lot like Witcher Man or Wicker
Man. Not the Nicolas Cage one. No, the original.
Which is one of the most terrifying movies for
me. Anyway, I'm very excited to get scared. I
love how horror just plays with the primal fear
that people have. It's one of the few things
in movies where you get that primal reaction.
Same thing in comedies, but on the complete opposite
side of the scale. And I just love movies that
play me like a tune. And this one, I don't think,
and not to say it's manipulative, but it definitely
builds tension the right way, tells an awesome
story, and scares the shit out of you when it
wants. So I'm very excited. Ari Aster's Midsommar
coming out next week. Did you say play me like
a Tim? Like a Tim. I'm excited to see Spider
-Man. I'm excited to see Midsommar. I have a
lot of movies coming up in the next two weeks
that I could have said, all right, yes, I'm ready.
So you guys talked about the ones that I'm really
excited for. Yesterday I'm probably going to
see just because it looks interesting. Oh, I
really want to see that. That looks interesting.
I'm going to talk about one that I want to shit
on. Crawl. Crawl. Which one's Crawl? So I saw
a trailer for it before... Is this the alligator
movie? This is the alligator movie. Oh, this
is the alligator movie. This is the alligator
movie. And the only reason I'm going to shit
on it is because I could have made this movie
easily. Sure, okay. Scary movie about a... Going
to read the IMDb plot. A young woman, while attempting
to save her father during a Category 5 hurricane,
finds herself trapped in a flooding house and
must fight for her life against alligators. I'm
kind of a sucker for creature features, and this
is what it sounds like. Oh my god, it looks so
bad. Oh yeah, no, don't get me wrong. It's like
a B -movie at best. Oh, it totally is a B -movie.
And that's fine and dandy for certain things,
but for whatever reason, this one has rubbed
me the wrong way. Yeah, I'm not sure if I'm going
to watch it in theaters, but I'm definitely going
to watch it at some point. they're just stuck
in this part of the house for like 50 minutes
of the movie probably where they're just like
we don't want to we don't want to swim over there
because there's alligators they're gonna get
us and like in the trailer like we see like classic
okay yeah exactly like i'm done all right i don't
know i'm i'm very much not for this But are you
going to watch it? No. Okay, not at all. Not
even like a morbid curiosity about it. It's only
an hour and 27 minutes. What if you lose... What?
And 50 of those minutes are spent on the one
side of the house. Well, I'm still watching it.
An hour and 27 minutes, you're going to watch
that? Dude, it's like 80... Well, it's almost
90 minutes. You're going to waste your life,
though. Dude, I will say this. And I... Well,
I make big movie fans. That's all you have. No.
I will take... Outside of a boring movie like
Dark Phoenix, I'm usually taking away some kind
of learn from a movie of like, oh, I've never
seen that before. Oh, this is how they attempted
to tell this kind of story, blah, blah, blah.
I'm so into the art of it. Even crappier movies,
I might get to learn from. Even if it's like,
don't do that. Or whatever. Don't swim in the
alligators. Don't go to a Category 5 hurricane.
Not like a life level. I can tell you right now,
don't go into a Category 5 hurricane. What if
you are in that situation with a Category 5 hurricane?
If there's a Category 5 hurricane, I'm evacuating.
With an alligator. What if you sleep through
the evacuation? No, fuck that. I'm not sleeping
that much. I'm not sleeping for a day and a half.
It's like, you know what, man? It's been a long
week at work. I just need to sleep this weekend.
Hurricane Michael's coming through the area.
Yeah, I'm going to sleep. I'm just going to catch
some Z's. I'm just going to ride this out. It'll
be fine. What about Fast and Furious, Hobbs and
Shaw? I'm excited for it. I need to watch the
rest of them. you really don't I haven't seen
them since Paul Walker passed the last one so
you've only missed Fate of the Furious yeah you've
only missed Fate of the Furious and let me tell
you right now it's fine I so forgot what that
one was even about my thing is like that's one
of those movie series that I'm just like turn
the brain off I'm gonna watch this and it's fantastic
when you do that like Furious 7 is still one
of my favorite movies because I went in and just
watch this yeah good action super successful
it was fantastic there was great action sequences
I think it's the most successful movie in the
franchise by far yeah By far. Besides maybe the
first one in retrospect. Right. But I still think
that one, a lot of it because of Paul Walker.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because that was his last one.
Because the scene was beautiful, too. Yeah, how
they do it and all that, it's been memed to death,
unfortunately, but the intentions were right.
The intentions were good. And the intentions
did it right in the movie. Everything's going
to be memed to death. Yeah. It's the rule of
the internet. Yeah, it's the rule of the internet.
I just liked how they ended it, like everything.
Oh, yeah. That's a great spot to stop, especially
since 8 wasn't. yeah the greatest it was fine
yeah it was fine but it was again forget i think
the rock is in a cast for most of it oh what
yeah like he's very limited in that yeah but
he has this spot where he just like cracks out
of it with his arm he flexes oh that sounds pretty
good oh it's hysterical it really because oh
that sounds pretty good so apparently The Rock
and Vin Diesel don't get along like on set well
this is this is more so why I think they had
this branch out yeah yes because they wanted
to have The Rock in more movies he sells movies
that kind of stuff so they put him in Hobbs and
Shaw which I'm not gonna lie looks dumb Yeah.
I'm so here for it. I'm so here for it. Exactly.
100%. The trailer where they go... 100 % knows
what it is, right? The trailer, the one I always
imagined was when he goes and he says, that's
my door. And he goes, and he opens the door and
there's all those bad guys. Bunch of bad guys
behind that door? Yeah. good luck with your door
you know like that kind of stuff that's the humor
that's the level of humor we got and I'm here
for it I just want Vin Diesel to go back to Pitch
Black make another sequel of Reddick interesting
okay I'm here for that yeah yeah I can do that
Fast Five is my favorite I'm waiting for the
Past Fire 2 yes the truth The sequel that was
promised. The sequel that was promised. I don't
think I saw the Pacifier one. I think I've heard
a quote from him. I'm not sure if it was direct
or somebody just... Was it involving the word
family at all? No, it was basically just... It
was pretty much the motivation for the Pacifier.
Sometimes you have to make shitty movies to get
funding. Okay, that's fair. I just, there's a,
if you guys watch Cinema Sins, there's a Cinema
Sins about the Fast and the Furious thing. And
basically every time Vin Diesel's in it, he just
says, family. Oh gosh. That's true. Sounds like
we're wrapping up. Tell us what you guys are
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That'd be cool. Yeah. And Ryan Reynolds is going
to be his profile pic. In the Green Lantern.
In the Green Lantern. Yes. Hopefully Mitchell
doesn't lose his own challenge this time. I kind
of like, well, I will say this. My first experience
watching a bad movie was fun because I could
really make fun of it. This one was a drag because
of how boring it was and how... disheartened
I was from watching it depends on the movie there
are those bad movies that are enjoyable to watch
and then you have the ones that you just want
to walk out of the theater I will throw you a
bone you do not give the challenges that give
you the advantage which I like because I do the
same thing I'm like let's just do it okay Andre
is the only one who gives himself the advantage
which is smart like frankly this is why the loser
chooses a challenge I'm not going to shit on
Andre for doing it playing the game I wasn't
either I was just playing the game. I was just
claiming the fact. Playing the game, man. Alright,
so that'll do it for me, Mike B. Tank. And Audrey
Bellinger. Mitchell Clements. T -Dog. And we
ask you, are you game for a movie? Maybe. No.
Depends if I'm down. I'm down, yeah. If it's
Dark Phoenix, no. Oh, well, not that one. But
Midsommar? Let's go. I'm game.