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Yeah, that's another sound for another Game for

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a Movie podcast. This is episode 10. 10! We made

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it 10 episodes, guys. We're already double digits.

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Yeah. I am your host, Mikey Tank. I am joined

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by... Andre Bellinger. Mitchell Clements. T -Dog.

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T -Dog! T -Dog! Welcome back, T -Dog. It's good

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to have you. Wow, big bark. Actually, we said

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T -Dog never left, right? T -Dog's just using

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a voice modulator? I wasn't sure the last time

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I've been around. T -Dog is more... Was I here

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last? T -Dog is... Obviously the friends that

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we've met along the way, Andre. Yeah, definitely.

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Not a real thing. The real T -Dog. That's the

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real T -Dog. The real T -Dog was inside of us

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all along. Yeah, absolutely. We're going to get

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this thing started with some shout -outs. First,

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beer shout -out. We've got two Rhodes. Road to

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ruin double IPA. Road to ruin double IPA. We've

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got Trogues Perpetual IPA. And both of you two

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are drinking that. Me and T -Dog. I like Trogues,

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but... I'm not a huge Imperial. They're definitely

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going to sponsor us now. Yeah, wow. Dude. That's

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what the shout -out's all about. They would send

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me some stouts or, you know. Wear yourself out,

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T -Dog. Once. Once. And I am drinking Beard Brewing

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Dogs and Boats. I also have a koozie from Lord

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Hobo because we were there yesterday. Boom sauce.

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Boom sauce. Yeah, great. Oh, I do like that.

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I really like the beard. The beard? I love dogs

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and boats. I had one earlier. It was... It was

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a double IPA, but it wasn't Dogs and Boats. Dogs

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and Boats may be my favorite beer of theirs.

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Have you tried Boats and Hoes? I have not tried

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Boats and Hoes. I don't think it's a real beer.

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You should try it sometime. We're also going

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to give a shout out to our number one fan, guys.

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Hey! Yes, we do! Adrian, thank you for listening.

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Oh, I thought it was my mom. Okay. Pseudonym?

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Yeah, she doesn't listen. The only thing she's

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subscribed to is me. Oh. Wow. All right. But

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you can subscribe to the podcast. Yo, Adrian.

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But for real, man, that's a cool shout out. Yeah.

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Number one fan. We love him. Really. Thank you

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for listening. He gives us feedback, that kind

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of stuff. If you guys have feedback. Be sure

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to write it in a review or on Facebook or whatever.

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Game for a Movie Podcast. You know how to find

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us. Dude, my favorite review was on the Apple

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Podcast one, and it said, I was looking for a

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movie podcast, and sure enough, this is one.

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I mean, I feel like that was either one of us

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or... I thought that was you that wrote that

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straight up. Oh, okay. Well, I was trying to

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be clever here, but okay, I've been found out.

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I'm now seen. Yes, I was giving myself my own

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shadow. Wait, wait, wait. I don't even know if

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that's a joke or not a joke. Just say, wow, this

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is a hilarious review that I definitely didn't

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write on my own. I thought everyone was in on

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the joke and then you weren't. You wrote it?

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I definitely wrote that. Oh, maybe Taco Bell.

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Taco Bell Cantina. Oh, you were freaking there.

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Yeah, we were all there. Someone had to go to

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bed. After one of those margaritas, with a little

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Mountain Dew in it. Yeah, it's awful. That still

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made me, oh. I still want to go there someday.

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Not grade A alcohol, but good times. Talk about

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that you guys like podcasts. You should only

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the show, but it does help a little bit. But,

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yeah, so to Ryan and the Rewind Kings, great

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podcast as well. Thank you guys for subscribing.

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We subscribe to you. Give them a listen. Exactly.

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So, without further ado, let's jump into some

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movies. Oh boy. We have three movies this week.

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Only three. We need to double down on one because

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it was so intense. So, Mitchell lost his own

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challenge. Which is fine. So he's the loser.

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And then T -Dog actually wanted to see this movie

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as well, so they are going to double dip on the

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bad movie review. What does that say about T

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-Dog? Where he openly said, I want to see this

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movie. He also had the... mindset to walk out

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halfway through that is also true yeah i still

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can't believe you walked out that's crazy i love

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it i mean you know i'm i subscribe to a -list

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oh sure you're right One, I hadn't been utilizing

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the subscription as much, you know. And, yeah,

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so really it was just a time investment at that

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point. A time investment, really, and a monetary

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one. I respect that. It's a baller movie. It's

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great. No, it's good. I knew it was going to

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be shitty going in. I didn't know how shitty,

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but we'll find out. We'll find out. What a tease.

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What a tease. Why did the T -Dog walk out? More

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after this. What movie as well, after this. But

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first, I guess I'll jump into it, and then we'll

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go to Andre, and then finish with you guys. Sounds

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good to me. I saw two movies this week. I saw

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Men in Black International. I saw Toy Story 4.

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You guys wanted me to talk about Toy Story 4.

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Some of you have not seen it, so I'm also going

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to limit the spoilers and talk most of my time

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about a certain thing. Ooh. About toys. Toy Story

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4, I think, was unnecessary, but at the same

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time, I loved every second of it. It was a great

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movie. Okay. So it sounds necessary. It was not

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necessary, but I will give a Toy Story four out

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of five. Wow. That was pretty quick. It was good.

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All right, on. We're talking for a third sequel

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to have that strong of a review? Yeah. I think

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this is one of my favorite series as a whole,

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just like overall what movie I love. I think

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two is probably the weakest for me. Which is

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crazy because 2 is, and I guess I would agree,

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but 2 is also really good. 2 is fantastic. It

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is. I would sit down and watch 2 any day. So

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it's one of those things where this whole movie

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series was very great. On to the... The sticking

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point here. I want it to be known I do support

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small businesses. I do like... Oh, boy. It is

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a deep dive. Oh, it is a deep dive. Hey, guys.

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Mike is about to shit on a mom and pop theater.

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Oh, yes. Are we fucking ready? Bowtie Cinemas.

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Oh. I have had four bad experiences at Bowtie

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Cinemas, and I think I've seen a total of six

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movies there. Wow. That's not a good average.

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It's four out of six bad. Yeah. If I get to the

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Hall of Fame, though. If you have. to sponsor

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our podcast, it'll now be five out of five stars

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for both sides. Nope, it's not. Sorry, I'm not

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letting them sponsor us. This one, basically,

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what had happened was about ten seconds into

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the movie, the movie cut out, and then it went

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back and showed the three ads before the movie

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and started again. Nice. So already off to a

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bad start. And so we're going through the movie.

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It's fine. Like, we're enjoying it. There's a

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bunch of kids at this screening. Obviously, it's

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Toy Story. You know, there's a bunch of kids.

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Ten minutes to go in the movie. Like, the most

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poignant part of the movie. The most driving

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home point of the movie. The emotional climax.

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The emotional climax. Ten minutes in? No, ten

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minutes left. The lights turn on. And kids in

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the theater are going, oh, is it over? They start

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talking, and they're kids. I get it. I'm not

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trying to shit on the kids. That's illegal. Jesus.

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Don't try that at home, everyone. Shit on kids

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is bad. But it's just one of those things where

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kids start talking because the lights are on

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and it just took us out of the movie. It ruined

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the movie for us. I still give it a 4 out of

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5 because you can see the moment. You can see

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what they were building up to. But it was just

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one of those things where it's like, this is

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ridiculous. Why is always something going wrong

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at this movie theater? Same thing happened. I

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tried to see three billboards outside Evans,

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Missouri. We got to 15 minutes left in the movie

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and the projector started a small fire. Jesus

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Christ. Wait, what? Yeah. Did you smell it? Or

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could you see it on the screen? No, they said,

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like they had somebody come in and they were

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just like, hey, we had a small fire in the projector

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room. It was able to be put out. We're going

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to move you to another theater. Great. Great.

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Okay. You know, fine. Whatever. We're going to

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see the last 15 minutes of the movie. They started

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the movie over again. I had to sit there for

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four hours to watch the end of this movie because

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I didn't know what was happening. Like, I was

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just... And movie's fine. Yeah. You know, it's

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a decent movie. I've watched it since. It's fine.

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Right. But to watch the movie again for the final

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15 minutes sucked. Yeah, it was rough. Yeah,

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it's just, it is absolutely, it's just a slog.

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You're going through this movie, it's a slow

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burn, like there's things that happen, but it's

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just, and at the end too, is there anybody who

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wants to see this movie that doesn't have spoilers?

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I've seen it once and I'm good. Go for it. I

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haven't seen it. Do you want to see it? I want

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to see it. Okay. We'll leave it on the table.

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Where did we see Justice League at? That was

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about time. I was about to bring it up. Did you

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guys also have a problem? We went to see Justice

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League. Great movie. Also 4 out of 5. Also 4

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out of 5. I give it a 1 out of 5. 1 .5 out of

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5. The movie starts, I think one, it was just

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down for a little while. That was the first issue.

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We had that from seeing Logan Lucky. I think

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that was fixed fairly early on. That was, yeah,

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very quickly. But Logan wasn't fixed. However,

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so it seemed like, you know, the screen, I was

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like, man, this is a really interesting choice

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for this. Yeah, really, because it feels really

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close. Yeah, because it feels closed in. You

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have this zoomed in view. You can't see most

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of the picture. So it ends up like finally I

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realize that it's their screen. It's their screen

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because what tripped us off was there was a subtitled

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part, right? And then the subtitles were cut

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off and you just had that realization where like,

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oh no. Yeah, this is not the actual film. This

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is the theater showing this that's really fucking

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it up. Yep, so the aspect ratio was off on the

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projector and this theater itself. Um, I'm not

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sure if you mentioned it, but we were also in

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like a super tiny theater. Yeah. Like, okay.

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So super tiny. Um, and people were talking and

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like also complaining, which added to the experience.

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Right. Cause it just ruins the movie for you.

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Exactly. Even if it's not a good movie. And it

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was not. Yeah. No. It was Justice League. Yeah.

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Yeah. I did like, I will. be a stand for the

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moment when Superman looks at Flash when Flash

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is running at full speed. But anyway, that was

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a cool moment. Yeah, they had cool moments. You're

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okay with that, yeah. But it was not $10 for

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the ticket cool, but it was cool. No A -list

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at Bowtie. No A -list membership at Bowtie. Well,

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the funny thing is, so the movie, the ad before

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it... It's like, movie viewing the way it used

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to be, only better. That ad played twice. Whoops.

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Yeah, so, yeah. Shots of bowtie. Sorry that my

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movie review ended up being me shitting on bowtie.

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Oh, it's fine. No, it's fine because I want to

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see it. Don't go to bowtie. All right, yeah,

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well, I'm not. Is that just like a Hartford place

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or do we know, is it in Connecticut overall?

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There's multiple... of whatever their thing is.

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Yeah. Because it's Criterion Club or something

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like that. Right. So there's like Criterion theaters.

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It would suck because the Criterion collection

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is such a high bar in movies. Yeah, right. And

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for that kind of theater to roll out that kind

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of product or service is awful. It's ridiculous.

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And this is my fourth bad experience. Like I

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could go on for an hour talking about all the

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experiences I've had. The two most prevalent

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though are Three Billboards and Toy Story 4.

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Yeah. Especially with Toy Story 4. It ruined

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it. And then for Logan Lucky, they basically

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said, we can't show you this movie. 38 locations.

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Colorado, Connecticut, Maryland, New Jersey,

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New York, and Virginia. Geez. All those states

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are screwed. Yeah. Well, and basically, like,

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for Logan Lucky, they just kind of said, we can't

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show you this movie because it's not working.

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Man. Okay? Ouch. And so, like, what are you going

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to do about it? Well, we can give you your money

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back. Okay. I bought it on Fandango. Like, I

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had a fee. Yeah. Can I get that back? Oh, no,

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we don't do it. right so i paid three bucks which

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is a fee for nothing yeah i mean that sucks but

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also like i can also see why they can't get it

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no i get it but it's one of those things you're

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you're very right to be annoyed they showed us

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30 seconds of the movie right it wasn't like

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we saw any of the movie right right all of a

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sudden it just cut out yeah so but anyway but

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good movie bad experience good movie you would

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recommend five toy stories boy five toy story

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good review would you watch it would you i mean

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without i'm sorry go ahead no i was just going

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to say good review i liked it we just really

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hammered on bow tie and then said good work toy

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story good work toy story no like the fact that

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they made this movie i was expecting it to be

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terrible or not terrible but like i was going

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in with no expectations i wasn't expecting it

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to be as good as it was because it was just it

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felt like it had wrapped in three Totally. Oh

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yeah. Oh, they totally did. That's why I have

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to go in with this one with checked expectations

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in that. Okay. No matter what happens in this

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one, three is still like, that was still such

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a perfect ending that I can let that. And what's

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weird about this one is it feels twice. Like

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it could go both ways. It could be done or it

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could be a spinoff kind of thing. Gotcha. Would

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you watch a Toy Story 5 if they say, we're putting

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out Toy Story 5 2021. The way they have hit it.

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At this point, I'm just... I think you have to.

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They built so much goodwill with their storytelling

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with these characters. Look, I think one of the

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things that benefits it is the big gap between

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all these movies. Outside of Toy Story 1 and

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2... I think that was the closest in years where

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the movies were released. And that was still

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like four or five years, wasn't it? Yeah. And

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that's like a typical turnaround time for an

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animated feature. Sure. But to go from Toy Story

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2 to Toy Story 3, which came out in 2010. Big

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gap. Now we're talking 2010 to 2019. A nine year

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gap. I mean, there's time to work out the story,

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which at the end of the day is what these movies

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should all be about. If they get the script right,

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we know the animation is going to be there for

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Pixar. Exactly. So I think as long as they take

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their time and it's not a cash grab like Cars

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3, like Pixar is going to be in a good position

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to make movies like that. So four years from

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the original to the second one, 11 years from

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the second one to the third one, and nine years

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to the fourth. Wow. So I guess last question,

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it's kind of an unfair comparison, but would

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you say that you enjoyed this as a sequel more

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than Incredibles 2? I liked Incredibles 2, but

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was a little disappointed by it. That's just

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the last Pixar sequel. But also because I love

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the Incredibles 1 so much. I would say Incredibles

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1, besides Toy Story 3, I think Toy Story 3 and

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Incredibles are similar levels, maybe just an

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edge for Toy Story 3. I would say, though, that

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Incredibles beats Toy Story 1, 2, and 4. Okay.

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It's obviously apples and oranges. That's just,

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you know. And then Incredibles 2 was a disappointment

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compared. I would love to do a Pixar ranking.

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Like, how we did Marvel. Sure. I can do that.

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That would be so cool. I'd be down with that.

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Yeah. I'd love to see that. Finding Nemo? That's

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your top pick? Finding Nemo might be my number

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one. Wow. It's Nemo and Incredibles. I really

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like Nemo. Incredibles might be mine. Yeah. Incredibles

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and Nemo are my top two. I am a Cars 2 guy all

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the way. All right. Andre is no longer on the

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podcast. RIP to Andre. Yeah. All right. So, Andre.

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You saw a movie. What did you see? I also saw

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a movie. I saw Rocketman. Rocketman! Yeah. I

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have to see it. Got to. The Elton John music

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biopic. Who? Elton John. Is he famous or something?

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He's kind of a niche rock. Is he Freddie Mercury?

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Yeah, he's Freddie Mercury's brother, actually,

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from another dimension. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah. They have the same manager. It gets confusing.

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Oh, that's great. Just remember, never trust

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somebody with two first names. That's true. You

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can. You can. It's in the Bible. It is in the

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Bible. Anyways, Rocketman, yeah. This movie kind

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of, I shouldn't say it surprised me, but it was

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real solid. I really, I had a great time with

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it. It was, at the start, it's kind of what I

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wanted Bohemian Rhapsody to be. Yes! So, I guess

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I am a very casual Elton John fan. You know,

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I'm familiar with his classics, and obviously

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he's a legend for a reason. Claire and I saw

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him when he was in Hartford. Oh, really? He was

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fantastic. That's sweet. That's awesome. Yeah,

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that's cool. It was something, yeah, we bought

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our tickets in January. The concert was in September.

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Like, it was one of those things we'd be all

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year for, kind of. Oh, yeah. Gotcha. Oh, it was

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a great time. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah, but I

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will say, like, just personally, I'm more emotionally

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invested. Like, Queen, I'm actually a big fan

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of Queen, right? So I was very disappointed with

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Bohemian Rhapsody, but this definitely didn't

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disappoint at all, to be honest with you. Yeah,

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I guess... basic overall thoughts. Taron Egerton,

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dude, everyone's saying this, but he melted into

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the role. He absolutely nailed it. Love Taron

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Egerton. I absolutely love him. Even in Robin

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Hood, which I saw. You saw that? We will have

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to have... It was not like, I'm going in, this

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is going to be a good movie. I'm going in just

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because I love Taron Egerton. So wait, for the

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record, it's Egerton, not Egerton? I thought

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it was Egerton. Whatever. Well, who's doing the

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review? That's true. You're right. It's up to

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you. Wow, thanks. I'll take the reins back. Darren

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Eagerton. Eagerton. We're just shitting on this

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guy's name. Anyways, he... Terran guy. Terran

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guy. That guy. Kingsman dude. Yeah. Dude, I mean,

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he sang all of the numbers and he fucking nailed

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it. So, did that not take you out of the experience

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at all? Because when you obviously know it's

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not Elmer Johnson. Yes. So I think what kept

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me from getting... Whatever. What kept me in

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the experience is that all of his songs, I loved

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the arrangements of them. They're different enough

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that it's not just Elton John's classics on Spotify.

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They're all rearrangements that are diegetic

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within the film. Across the Universe did this

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a little bit. I think it works better here than

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it did in Across the Universe. Honestly, it feels

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less forced. so I'd say narratively this movie

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is going to hit all those beats you'd expect

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to out of a music biopic if you've seen any music

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biopic you're going to kind of know the rise

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the fall the highs the lows and probably not

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in order those people that are like well this

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didn't happen until then yeah right which we

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call which we call on these podcasts nerd look

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I had a big issue with that with Bohemian Rhapsody

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sure oh yeah definitely Big issues with that,

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because it looked like Queen was trying to cover

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up some things. Right, yeah. So, and then the

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one reason, the big points in this movie's favor

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is that they don't try to cover anything up,

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I don't think, right? Like, they show the lows,

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you know, and it's not just a victory lap for

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Elton John, right? Right. So... That's fair.

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Yeah. Oh, man, the choreography, the music is,

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like, on point. Just... Oh, man, there are so

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many, like, hype moments when he's playing for

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the first time at the Troubadour in L .A. And

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they do that iconic shot where, like, he's horizontal

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with the piano. Like, they do a really cool moment

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with that. Like, it's just, wow. Like, it really

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sucked me in. And I'm not even that, you know,

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huge into Elton John's music. But a lot of those

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moments really, really resonated with me emotionally.

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Yeah, let's see. I don't know. yeah acting's

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great in this uh taryn egerton he's uh his his

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fate the way he like his facial emotion is really

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really well done and i fluffed up his last name

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again i guess whatever but like eventually it

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will be like the average of how you're saying

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his name will be our pronunciation yeah definitely

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for sure egerton egerton Terry, Terran guy. Terran

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guy. Just go with Terran guy. It's better. So

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let me bring this up, though. Yeah. So as much

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as I'm not a fan of Bohemian Rhapsody, I will

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commend it for how it treated the concert sequence

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at the very end. Yes. Live Aid was completely...

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Definitely. I was blown away how they pulled

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that off from a cinematic standpoint. Yeah. It

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sounds like that's what you were drawn to as

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well with... Rocketman yes and it's funny because

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the same director Bryan Singer started Bohemian

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Rhapsody but he famously was booted off the project

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yeah and the guy who finished it yep Dexter Dexter

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Fletcher yes he directed from start to finish

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Rocketman yeah so it sounds like he may have

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brought the same he brought that back multiple

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I would say multiple moments and Yeah, I think

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that they're more powerful in that it's more

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emotionally resonant because the actual narrative

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around it works more, I guess. Got it, okay.

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So when they were touring for Bohemian Rhapsody,

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they asked Dexter Fletcher, you said this is

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a fantasy biopic? Yes. Are there more fantasy

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elements? Yes, I think that's very accurate because

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it... Just the way, it all goes back to diegetically

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putting in those music tunes, right? Where it's

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not just, it's not just like in Bohemian Rhapsody,

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it's very much like, you hear the music when

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they're playing the concert, or it's in the background.

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It's not, or they're like practicing, like it's

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all, he's actually singing it or whatever, where

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it's almost more like a musical in Rocketman,

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where like, you know, it'll start out when it's

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like, it starts out with his childhood, and like,

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maybe he'll like, they'll have, they'll sing,

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like his whole entire family will sing a song,

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and they'll all have their own, their own soliloquies,

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basically, in verse. So yeah, and I love how

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they play with the tone at the beginning. It's

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more jovial as he's finding out that he's a prodigy

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at, you know, at music stuff. Yeah, really true.

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It's more jovial, it's more upbeat, it's very

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show -tuning, but then, you know, as we get into

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that second act, and he's, you know, made it

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huge, and he's starting to, you know, spiral

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down a mental instability and all the drugs and

00:23:00.740 --> 00:23:02.279
alcohol and stuff, like, it gets a little bit

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more just psychedelic, I guess, and more, like,

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you know, abstract and darker, frankly. I would

00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:12.559
say the pacing of this movie also reflects that

00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:14.839
mental state really well, where you'll just flow

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in and out of scenes. Like, when he is, like,

00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:19.359
at his lowest low in terms of sobriety, you'll

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just be... He just shifts through, like, you

00:23:22.380 --> 00:23:24.440
know, talking with people and stuff. Like, just

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this perspective, it really draws you in. It's

00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:28.259
like, wow, I have no idea what's happening, and

00:23:28.259 --> 00:23:31.640
now it is Elton, you know? So, yeah. I mean,

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again, narratively, it's all the beats you'd

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expect. It's not going to be... huge, but...

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Mitchell just moved in his chair and it sounded

00:23:39.819 --> 00:23:43.779
like a fart. I swear it was the chair. I swear

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it was the chair. I need to leave the room. If

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it sounds like we're opening windows, we are.

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But yeah, narratively, nothing to write home

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about, but everything else around it was really,

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really solid. And yeah, I've had Elton John songs

00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:01.859
stuck in my head all week because of it. Love

00:24:01.859 --> 00:24:05.480
it. I have to ask, is Philadelphia Freedom in

00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:09.359
there? yes yes uh yeah i believe so i don't think

00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:11.539
it's huge like not there are some songs i just

00:24:11.539 --> 00:24:14.059
want it yeah okay like they cover the they cover

00:24:14.059 --> 00:24:15.460
the game just inject it straight in my veins

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they cover the game um so yeah i'm gonna give

00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:22.240
this uh four tiny dancers out of five oh four

00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:24.920
tiny dancers oh okay how cute yeah i like it

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Tony Danza's. Got it. Tony Danza's. Hold me closer.

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Tony Danza's. All right. All right. And we move

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on to the bad movie. Oh, boy. Boys. T -Dog has

00:24:36.950 --> 00:24:40.710
to lead off here because I love his story. This

00:24:40.710 --> 00:24:42.349
is really T -Dog's story. I don't know how much

00:24:42.349 --> 00:24:45.190
we covered in the podcast at all. Just briefly,

00:24:45.230 --> 00:24:49.700
I guess. We were talking about it before. Let's

00:24:49.700 --> 00:24:53.779
start off with I have AMC A -list. Yes, yes,

00:24:54.319 --> 00:24:58.140
check. That would be the primary reason to go

00:24:58.140 --> 00:25:00.859
to this movie is there was no financial obligation.

00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:03.920
You've already paid. Yeah, I've already paid.

00:25:04.140 --> 00:25:07.359
So it boils down to a time investment. And, you

00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:10.319
know, I really enjoyed the first class and Days

00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:14.650
of Future Past. I never got into the X -Men comics,

00:25:14.910 --> 00:25:18.430
or comics in general, right? But like the 90s

00:25:18.430 --> 00:25:22.670
cartoons growing up were amazing to watch. Especially

00:25:22.670 --> 00:25:26.269
the Marvel. X -Men animated series was... Yeah,

00:25:26.269 --> 00:25:31.589
different iterations of the X -Men through those

00:25:31.589 --> 00:25:35.289
animated series. They were all great. So when

00:25:35.289 --> 00:25:38.009
First Class and Days of Future Past came out,

00:25:38.029 --> 00:25:40.670
those were amazing. And then you get to the apocalypse,

00:25:41.029 --> 00:25:45.079
which... Did you see Apocalypse? I saw it. I

00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:47.440
think it was one of those where I watch on my

00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:49.900
laptop when I'm doing something else, and you're

00:25:49.900 --> 00:25:51.400
like, yeah, this movie's not great. That's the

00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:54.579
right way to watch it. And I still kind of like

00:25:54.579 --> 00:25:58.519
the material of it, but not how it was portrayed.

00:25:59.769 --> 00:26:01.670
how it, you know. You guys are going to give

00:26:01.670 --> 00:26:03.630
me my first look into this because I did not

00:26:03.630 --> 00:26:08.190
watch First Class through this. Oh, wow. I would

00:26:08.190 --> 00:26:10.549
go back and watch First Class. Like, First Class

00:26:10.549 --> 00:26:13.170
is amazing. It's on my list. It's not like it

00:26:13.170 --> 00:26:16.430
was just, it just kind of lapsed. Okay, so it's

00:26:16.430 --> 00:26:18.869
on your list. Like, legitimately go watch it.

00:26:18.990 --> 00:26:20.730
And Days of Future Past, do you say both of those?

00:26:20.730 --> 00:26:22.430
Yeah, we say both of those and then stop there.

00:26:22.569 --> 00:26:25.329
Yeah, just forget, like, just assume that. I

00:26:25.329 --> 00:26:26.630
feel like Days of Future Past is a good ending

00:26:26.630 --> 00:26:28.490
point anyway. It's a great ending. Like, those

00:26:28.490 --> 00:26:31.980
two. Very self -contained. Even if you just watch

00:26:31.980 --> 00:26:33.259
First Class, you're going to be like, wow, this

00:26:33.259 --> 00:26:37.819
is a great movie. Future just builds on it. I

00:26:37.819 --> 00:26:41.079
didn't like it as well just because the sheer

00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:45.119
coming in from the start of a series and being

00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:49.559
novel compared to... the previous X -Men iterations.

00:26:49.779 --> 00:26:53.019
It was a great start, like a fresh start. But

00:26:53.019 --> 00:26:56.339
I would still watch both. So going into this,

00:26:56.380 --> 00:26:59.220
I knew the movie was not going to be great. But

00:26:59.220 --> 00:27:01.220
I just wanted to kind of see how it was, keep

00:27:01.220 --> 00:27:03.500
Mitchell honest about it. I knew Mitchell would

00:27:03.500 --> 00:27:06.619
shit on it no matter what. Yep. Well, not no

00:27:06.619 --> 00:27:09.380
matter what. It had it earned. Yeah, yes. It

00:27:09.380 --> 00:27:17.430
earned it. So, yeah, it really started off. It

00:27:17.430 --> 00:27:21.430
reminded me a lot of Fantastic Four, Silver Surfer.

00:27:21.589 --> 00:27:27.230
I don't even remember how much I watched of that

00:27:27.230 --> 00:27:30.609
because that was another one you'd watch a little

00:27:30.609 --> 00:27:32.549
bit of while you're doing other stuff and you're

00:27:32.549 --> 00:27:36.130
like, wow, this movie's terrible. The problem

00:27:36.130 --> 00:27:38.420
is I was young enough at that point. Where I

00:27:38.420 --> 00:27:40.440
was just kind of like, oh yeah, this isn't that

00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:42.740
bad. And now I've gone back and been like, oh.

00:27:43.660 --> 00:27:45.900
Especially, it's the material that pulls you

00:27:45.900 --> 00:27:48.279
in, right? The source material. You have these

00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:52.140
character setups that were built from other materials.

00:27:53.710 --> 00:27:55.970
That's the only attraction of the movie. And

00:27:55.970 --> 00:28:00.230
Jessica Alba. Yeah. And Jessica Alba. I mean,

00:28:00.289 --> 00:28:01.569
that's why you watched Barely Lethal last week,

00:28:01.589 --> 00:28:07.509
right? Great film, man. Barely Lethal. So the

00:28:07.509 --> 00:28:10.829
movie starts off extremely fast. Like, it's just

00:28:10.829 --> 00:28:13.190
rolling through events, trying to get the buildup

00:28:13.190 --> 00:28:16.430
of the Dark Phoenix. Do you know what the runtime

00:28:16.430 --> 00:28:19.170
is, out of curiosity? It's two hours. Yeah, two

00:28:19.170 --> 00:28:21.950
hours? Yeah. It felt like two hours. Yeah, it

00:28:21.950 --> 00:28:30.809
just, like, you know. I don't think there had

00:28:30.809 --> 00:28:34.950
been much discussion of really genes in the previous

00:28:34.950 --> 00:28:39.630
three installments. Sophie Turner had only been

00:28:39.630 --> 00:28:45.529
in the previous one, Apocalypse. Those newer

00:28:45.529 --> 00:28:50.759
X -Men, not of the core. and you know they really

00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:53.400
just plowed through like they go into space um

00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:56.579
she basically gets fuck off to space yeah they

00:28:56.579 --> 00:29:00.660
fuck off to space She gets fucked in space and

00:29:00.660 --> 00:29:03.660
then they come back and she fucks up shit afterwards.

00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:07.480
The three fucks of every story. Yes, yes, yes.

00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:11.140
Fuck off to space, fucked in space. There's another

00:29:11.140 --> 00:29:16.279
fuck that T -Dog missed. Wait, what? They get

00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:20.400
back down to Earth and there are a few things

00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:27.559
that happen and then Jean Grey's I guess Dark

00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:31.039
Phoenix now, ends up killing Mystique. And then

00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:34.339
at that point, I was like, okay, you know, this

00:29:34.339 --> 00:29:39.819
movie is not going the best. It's not its best

00:29:39.819 --> 00:29:43.779
self. So you just fucked down a theater. There

00:29:43.779 --> 00:29:46.599
were like seven people. This was a couple days

00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.240
ago. They were close. Isn't it already getting

00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:51.019
taken out of theaters? Well, that's what Mike

00:29:51.019 --> 00:29:52.720
mentioned, that it was already getting pulled

00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:55.640
out. Wow, it was putting the timetable on this

00:29:55.640 --> 00:30:00.539
movie. So, you know, I left. That might have

00:30:00.539 --> 00:30:03.619
been like... An hour in, maybe? An hour in! Yeah,

00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:06.140
that was... It was really almost a halfway point,

00:30:06.259 --> 00:30:08.160
I think. Yeah, I want to say, it's like halfway

00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:11.779
through the movie, and they build it, and clearly

00:30:11.779 --> 00:30:14.819
your reaction says it all. They built it as this

00:30:14.819 --> 00:30:16.980
moment where it's like a big turning point. I

00:30:16.980 --> 00:30:18.359
was going to say, that seemed like a turning

00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:21.539
point moment where she attacks her friends. She's

00:30:21.539 --> 00:30:25.859
broken bad. Yeah, that's what she... And it...

00:30:26.390 --> 00:30:29.089
Falls on deaf ears like it is it is executed

00:30:29.089 --> 00:30:34.039
so poorly zero any there's zero chemistry between

00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:35.980
Sophie Turner and Jennifer Lawrence first time

00:30:35.980 --> 00:30:40.000
yeah well sorry one second like the entire I'm

00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:41.900
assuming that this propagated through the entire

00:30:41.900 --> 00:30:44.920
movie yeah it was literally just like they're

00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:49.779
reading lines without emotion it is it was so

00:30:49.779 --> 00:30:52.819
muted Jessica Chastain is the one who definitely

00:30:52.819 --> 00:30:55.420
takes that to the whole new level where she's

00:30:55.420 --> 00:30:58.420
possessed she's an alien who possesses a human

00:30:58.420 --> 00:31:02.730
being and So is she the Phoenix, kind of? No,

00:31:02.730 --> 00:31:05.150
no. Is she an alien? She's an alien that's looking

00:31:05.150 --> 00:31:08.549
for the thing that made Jean Grey the Dark Phoenix.

00:31:08.569 --> 00:31:11.049
They want to utilize the power, basically. That

00:31:11.049 --> 00:31:14.089
race. They want to rebuild the race. Is that

00:31:14.089 --> 00:31:16.769
based on... Is she an actual comic book character?

00:31:16.950 --> 00:31:19.309
So I'd never read the Dark Phoenix saga. I was

00:31:19.309 --> 00:31:22.029
a DC kid growing up. But I did a little bit of

00:31:22.029 --> 00:31:25.250
Wikipedia research. So that... alien race is

00:31:25.250 --> 00:31:28.230
involved but not in the same way that's displayed

00:31:28.230 --> 00:31:30.650
in this movie just frankly because of you know

00:31:30.650 --> 00:31:33.509
it's a two -hour movie versus a very long saga

00:31:33.509 --> 00:31:36.289
i mean oh sure the dark phoenix saga yeah you

00:31:36.289 --> 00:31:38.390
gotta change stuff that's fine i think this would

00:31:38.390 --> 00:31:40.730
have been so much better as a series like a little

00:31:40.730 --> 00:31:43.289
mini series or whatever where if you had actors

00:31:43.289 --> 00:31:45.450
who were dedicated in a script that i care that's

00:31:45.450 --> 00:31:48.359
why i think the stories Like, that it's based

00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:50.259
on is good. The movie stories are good. That's

00:31:50.259 --> 00:31:52.279
the issue. The source material of this stuff

00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.400
is good. They've tried it twice now. What? Oh.

00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:57.900
In the movie stories. Yeah, exactly. In the movies,

00:31:58.059 --> 00:32:00.759
yeah. Well, this is why I really hope that there's

00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:02.599
some sort of... I mean, like, the Marvel's Netflix

00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:05.140
series was almost there, but I hope that there's

00:32:05.140 --> 00:32:08.220
some high -budget, like... Game of Thrones -style

00:32:08.220 --> 00:32:11.380
long -form show with superheroes. That could

00:32:11.380 --> 00:32:13.220
work out, and you could adapt an arc like that.

00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:14.680
I guess that's what Disney's betting with Disney+.

00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:18.859
Exactly. I feel like a long -form TV series would

00:32:18.859 --> 00:32:21.140
really work out for this story way better. It

00:32:21.140 --> 00:32:23.700
totally would. The only one outside the comics

00:32:23.700 --> 00:32:26.200
where I feel like it has been nailed. actually

00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:29.519
done really well was the animated series. X -Men

00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:31.200
animated series, that was my first introduction

00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:33.660
into the Dark Phoenix series, and then I saw

00:32:33.660 --> 00:32:36.259
X3, and now I've seen Dark Phoenix, and both

00:32:36.259 --> 00:32:38.519
times have been awful. Outside of, you know,

00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:41.779
the animated folks did it right. X -Men 3, that

00:32:41.779 --> 00:32:44.180
was tough in general, just because the studio

00:32:44.180 --> 00:32:47.000
made them. include the phoenix saga i actually

00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:48.940
think it would really force that yeah yeah because

00:32:48.940 --> 00:32:50.339
i think it would have been better they were talking

00:32:50.339 --> 00:32:53.359
they had this whole story set up of they found

00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:57.480
this cure for mutant dna yep and like i think

00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:59.380
that would have been so much better as a story

00:32:59.380 --> 00:33:01.880
by itself without forcing in the phoenix it was

00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:04.400
just like spider -man 3 i think that x3 was better

00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:08.980
than this wow i haven't seen it it's hard for

00:33:08.980 --> 00:33:10.779
me to compare because of how long it's been since

00:33:10.779 --> 00:33:13.579
i've seen it maybe maybe for me it's like the

00:33:13.579 --> 00:33:16.420
acting like okay i felt like at least the actor

00:33:16.420 --> 00:33:19.059
you know um in x3 they were actually trying for

00:33:19.059 --> 00:33:22.819
something yeah they were just more um veteran

00:33:22.819 --> 00:33:26.759
actors i guess um and you know they could Phone

00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:29.900
it in better, probably. But to be fair, you have

00:33:29.900 --> 00:33:32.299
Jennifer Lawrence, Oscar winner. You have Michael

00:33:32.299 --> 00:33:34.900
Fassbender, who's a great actor. I didn't even

00:33:34.900 --> 00:33:36.700
get to that part, right? He wasn't in the first

00:33:36.700 --> 00:33:38.579
half of the movie. Oh, shit. You didn't see Michael

00:33:38.579 --> 00:33:41.180
Fassbender. That's funny. That's really funny.

00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:43.160
Michael Fassbender's in this movie, guys. It's

00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.299
Magneto, of course. By the way, here's how they

00:33:46.299 --> 00:33:48.579
use Michael Fassbender. Same way they use him

00:33:48.579 --> 00:33:52.200
in Apocalypse. A big, pivotal scene where he's...

00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:56.500
I guess battling Dark Phoenix. He is flexing

00:33:56.500 --> 00:33:59.369
really hard and yelling. Because he's using his

00:33:59.369 --> 00:34:03.470
powers. And that is the highest emotional range

00:34:03.470 --> 00:34:05.690
that he shows throughout this film. Can Michael

00:34:05.690 --> 00:34:08.170
Fassbender be cast in Dragon Ball Super Broly?

00:34:08.329 --> 00:34:10.989
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. He should be top

00:34:10.989 --> 00:34:15.030
of the call sheet. Who is Michael Fassbender

00:34:15.030 --> 00:34:17.989
in Broly? Oh, Vegeta. He has such a Vegeta vibe.

00:34:18.090 --> 00:34:21.909
Dude, yes. Ironically, let's bring back live

00:34:21.909 --> 00:34:25.269
action Dragon Ball. Get Fassbender in here. I

00:34:25.269 --> 00:34:28.820
think if you recast Dragon Ball. as like a Shakespearean

00:34:28.820 --> 00:34:31.500
kind of thing, Michael Fassbender's your Vegeta.

00:34:31.820 --> 00:34:33.920
All right, so I was talking about this before,

00:34:34.099 --> 00:34:37.880
but if you haven't seen Frank, not before, but

00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.199
I think maybe... We were talking about this because...

00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:43.179
Watch Frank because it's an indie. It's like

00:34:43.179 --> 00:34:44.840
more of an indie movie. It's the one with the

00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:46.960
guy with the... Yeah, okay. Paper mache head.

00:34:47.059 --> 00:34:50.210
Yeah, yeah. It's like... It's not a generic type

00:34:50.210 --> 00:34:53.050
movie, so you might not like it at all. I mean,

00:34:53.090 --> 00:34:56.269
it's a limited appeal, but it's a strong movie

00:34:56.269 --> 00:34:59.469
for what it tries to do. Gotcha. Can I shit on

00:34:59.469 --> 00:35:02.469
this movie real quick? Oh, yeah. Okay. Can I

00:35:02.469 --> 00:35:04.269
shit on Dark Phoenix real quick? Can I tap in?

00:35:05.170 --> 00:35:07.090
Just don't shit on children. This is not okay.

00:35:07.289 --> 00:35:09.409
In the podcast. Just don't shit on children.

00:35:09.489 --> 00:35:10.309
That's not okay. Just don't shit on children,

00:35:10.389 --> 00:35:15.849
Mike. Shit on the children. I peed on them. No,

00:35:15.849 --> 00:35:19.510
no, no. Oh, no. Glow -ified in our county. Glow

00:35:19.510 --> 00:35:21.820
-ified in our county. Oh, my God. I'm leaving.

00:35:22.139 --> 00:35:26.500
I am editing that part out. Hard left turn back

00:35:26.500 --> 00:35:28.539
into the conversation. Hey, Dark Phoenix, it

00:35:28.539 --> 00:35:31.840
sucked. Dark Phoenix is awful. Guys, the biggest

00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:35.039
sin that this movie commits, it is boring. As

00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:39.400
bad as it is, it is a boring movie. I think alongside

00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:45.679
that bad, or the worst thing, is that it has...

00:35:46.139 --> 00:35:48.980
this great pool of actors and it doesn't utilize

00:35:48.980 --> 00:35:52.900
them at all. Exactly. That goes hand in hand

00:35:52.900 --> 00:35:56.159
with it. Absolutely. I also love on IMDb how

00:35:56.159 --> 00:36:00.639
Sophie Turner is the fifth actor listed. She's

00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:03.199
the star of the movie. She is the star of the

00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:06.219
movie. Understood. I agree with that premise

00:36:06.219 --> 00:36:11.469
from everybody in the ads. obviously, nowhere

00:36:11.469 --> 00:36:14.130
near as much as she is. So I would think she

00:36:14.130 --> 00:36:16.650
is the star of the movie. She is fifth on IMDb.

00:36:16.750 --> 00:36:18.630
So who's at the top of the call sheet? Probably...

00:36:18.630 --> 00:36:21.349
You want to play the guessing game? Is it McAvoy?

00:36:21.730 --> 00:36:26.150
McAvoy is one. Okay. Fassbender? Two. Wow. Jennifer

00:36:26.150 --> 00:36:28.929
Lawrence? Jennifer Lawrence. Three? Okay. Let's

00:36:28.929 --> 00:36:30.590
get one more. Who's the guy who plays Beast?

00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:34.280
Nicholas Holt four wow Nicholas Holt above I

00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:36.179
don't know how Holt jumps Sophie Turner there

00:36:36.179 --> 00:36:39.159
yeah that's crazy to me I think probably just

00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:43.559
because they're the core team of that series

00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:45.940
yeah and Sophie this is literally her second

00:36:45.940 --> 00:36:49.449
X -Men movie She's coming off of Game of Thrones,

00:36:49.570 --> 00:36:53.550
man. Oh, I know. I'm not sure if this is negotiated

00:36:53.550 --> 00:36:56.329
in their contracts, which I know it is, but this

00:36:56.329 --> 00:36:58.130
is her second X -Men movie where these people

00:36:58.130 --> 00:37:01.010
have a longer history with dealing with box and

00:37:01.010 --> 00:37:04.230
dealing with these characters. I think T -Dog's

00:37:04.230 --> 00:37:07.269
right in saying that. How is Fassbender and the

00:37:07.269 --> 00:37:10.150
parts that he was actually in? Look, they don't

00:37:10.150 --> 00:37:12.389
give him anything to do. I mean, he's a guy who

00:37:12.389 --> 00:37:15.840
I think, I mean, look. He could carry a film.

00:37:15.900 --> 00:37:17.800
We've seen it a lot of times before, both as

00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:21.000
the leading man in a movie like Jobs, or in a

00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:24.119
movie, or Steve Jobs, the one with, you know

00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:24.940
what I'm talking about, because there's like

00:37:24.940 --> 00:37:28.480
two ones. Well, even his first class. First class.

00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:30.940
He was not the star, but he was amazing. Honestly,

00:37:31.019 --> 00:37:32.780
Prometheus, he was the most interesting part

00:37:32.780 --> 00:37:34.639
of that movie to me as well. Exactly. Prometheus,

00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:38.019
again, not necessarily the star, but still definitely

00:37:38.019 --> 00:37:40.619
carries the movie in a lot of ways. And Inglourious

00:37:40.619 --> 00:37:43.559
Bastards, where he has maybe 20 minutes of screen

00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:47.179
time. But he soaks all of it up. This movie gives

00:37:47.179 --> 00:37:50.059
them no room to do that. And that's mainly the

00:37:50.059 --> 00:37:53.099
script just being terrible. It could be very

00:37:53.099 --> 00:37:55.619
bad direction as well. As I said, a lot of the

00:37:55.619 --> 00:37:58.360
performances feel muted, as T -Dog was saying.

00:37:58.659 --> 00:38:02.099
Well, I think part of that, kind of as a side

00:38:02.099 --> 00:38:05.360
note of that, Jennifer Lawrence and Sophia Turner

00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:07.900
have a lot of screen time. What? Sophie Turner.

00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:11.320
Sorry. Taron Egerton, Sophie Turner. We're all

00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:13.880
good. A little bit different issues with that.

00:38:14.059 --> 00:38:18.079
A little bit. put an A where an E was yeah um

00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:24.519
so Sophia my favorite yes Sophie Turner my point

00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:28.119
on their performances were they were you know

00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:32.099
so emotionless and monotone yeah at least for

00:38:32.099 --> 00:38:36.619
the parts that I saw um it was i don't know tough

00:38:36.619 --> 00:38:39.679
to watch yeah like it's if you were if you were

00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:42.500
to watch that yeah and and i did didn't know

00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:45.599
like haven't seen any of their other movies or

00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.380
something right now you think they're bad actors

00:38:47.380 --> 00:38:49.969
oh yeah you think they'd be terrible. Absolutely.

00:38:50.190 --> 00:38:52.809
My thing is this. This movie tries to cut corners

00:38:52.809 --> 00:38:55.670
in so many ways. As you said, it's an hour and

00:38:55.670 --> 00:38:58.929
53 minutes. Didn't even make it the two hours.

00:38:59.090 --> 00:39:01.409
It didn't make it two hours and it didn't give

00:39:01.409 --> 00:39:04.889
any of the emotional high points the work that

00:39:04.889 --> 00:39:07.590
it needed to make those count. And what I mean

00:39:07.590 --> 00:39:10.610
by that is the standoff between Mystique and

00:39:10.610 --> 00:39:14.989
Jean Grey when they're confronting Jean Grey

00:39:14.989 --> 00:39:19.019
who's out seeking her father. who she had been

00:39:19.019 --> 00:39:21.019
separated from since she was eight, and she's

00:39:21.019 --> 00:39:23.239
blaming Charles Xavier for separating her from

00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:25.400
her dad, blah, blah, blah. Whole backstory thing

00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:28.019
going on. Building to this moment, she's starting

00:39:28.019 --> 00:39:31.139
to lose control of her powers. And Jennifer Lawrence,

00:39:31.300 --> 00:39:34.559
who maybe has... three minutes of screen time

00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:38.400
along with Gene in the movie of building up to

00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:41.139
this point. Suddenly, this is the crux of the

00:39:41.139 --> 00:39:43.340
scene where... Three minutes together and then

00:39:43.340 --> 00:39:44.699
all of a sudden... I'm probably exaggerating.

00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:46.900
No, no, but I get what you're saying. It feels

00:39:46.900 --> 00:39:48.719
very underwhelming. They don't put in the work

00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:51.079
of the relationship specifically between these

00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:55.440
two characters. Now, if Gene had killed Cyclops

00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:57.650
in this scene, for example... totally different

00:39:57.650 --> 00:40:00.010
in my mind because that is and which they do

00:40:00.010 --> 00:40:02.690
in x3 yes and that's kind of and that's kind

00:40:02.690 --> 00:40:04.929
of better the stuff that i was getting now like

00:40:04.929 --> 00:40:07.630
i feel like x3 was almost a better movie yeah

00:40:07.630 --> 00:40:11.070
and you know they kind of built up that they

00:40:11.070 --> 00:40:13.489
did a conflict better and they had the previous

00:40:13.489 --> 00:40:16.800
two movies as well and i agree with that But

00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.019
they also, what we have to remember about X3

00:40:19.019 --> 00:40:21.159
is he died within like 20 minutes of the movie.

00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:22.820
Yes, right. That wasn't the halfway point. That

00:40:22.820 --> 00:40:24.860
was the end of the first act, basically. Yeah,

00:40:24.860 --> 00:40:27.000
that was the shocker, like, I don't know. Okay,

00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.139
sure. But if you guys watch Dark Phoenix and

00:40:30.139 --> 00:40:33.619
look at the first half... I'm not saying that

00:40:33.619 --> 00:40:35.320
it's necessarily worse or better or whatever.

00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:38.280
I'm just saying, at the same time, they also

00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:41.179
didn't build it up in X3 either. If you just

00:40:41.179 --> 00:40:45.960
went in X3... But X3, didn't you have... Wasn't

00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.820
there a little more history between Scott and

00:40:48.820 --> 00:40:51.639
Gene? Yeah, in the trilogy. That's what I mean.

00:40:51.900 --> 00:40:54.420
That's what I'm saying. If you go in straight

00:40:54.420 --> 00:40:57.820
going, you just saw X3. You didn't see X -Men

00:40:57.820 --> 00:41:01.269
1. You didn't see X -Men 2. It's splitting hairs

00:41:01.269 --> 00:41:04.170
because you're going in with she only had one

00:41:04.170 --> 00:41:06.429
movie. I can't believe you're defending X3 in

00:41:06.429 --> 00:41:08.550
comparison to... I'm not. I think both are awful.

00:41:09.050 --> 00:41:12.449
Now that I'm just saying this, how crazy. We

00:41:12.449 --> 00:41:15.090
could play Script Doctor all day. Sure. But in

00:41:15.090 --> 00:41:18.010
the end of it, it felt so mailed in. People knew

00:41:18.010 --> 00:41:19.909
that this was going to be the last Fox movie

00:41:19.909 --> 00:41:22.670
that X -Men was going to be under. And it definitely

00:41:22.670 --> 00:41:25.369
felt like, okay, well, Fox was just bought by

00:41:25.369 --> 00:41:27.309
Disney. Let's just get this thing out there because

00:41:27.309 --> 00:41:29.980
we're contractually obligated to do that. that's

00:41:29.980 --> 00:41:31.639
what it felt like it felt like a product of a

00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:34.559
big machine that just did not give a shit about

00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:37.340
the final product and i will say this kind of

00:41:37.340 --> 00:41:39.500
rooting for jennifer lawrence when she died is

00:41:39.500 --> 00:41:42.760
this like that is her dobby is free kind of moment

00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.679
where she gets her sock okay she gets her sock

00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:48.900
in the form of getting impaled by um i forgot

00:41:48.900 --> 00:41:51.239
like wooden planks so anyway wait who killed

00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:53.739
her uh oh uh dark phoenix of course kills her

00:41:53.739 --> 00:41:56.840
wait so gene okay yeah Jennifer Lawrence gets

00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:59.199
killed. Or Misty. Oh, sorry, sorry. Or Raven.

00:41:59.380 --> 00:42:02.400
She gets killed by Raven. I messed up. I want

00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:04.860
to know, how does it end? How does it end? Oh,

00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:08.840
got it. So, as is true to the Dark Phoenix saga.

00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:10.460
He didn't want to sit there. He wants the...

00:42:10.460 --> 00:42:14.400
Oh, he wants to skip. I will say this. The better

00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:18.150
parts of the movie are at the end, where... I

00:42:18.150 --> 00:42:20.769
feel finally they start using action sequences

00:42:20.769 --> 00:42:22.809
and using these characters' powers in really

00:42:22.809 --> 00:42:25.150
cool ways instead of just Michael Fassbender

00:42:25.150 --> 00:42:28.789
just, like, flexing and yelling. Like, Nightcrawler,

00:42:28.829 --> 00:42:31.369
who I think has the best powers in terms of action

00:42:31.369 --> 00:42:33.869
sequences, X2 brings that up to an 11. You can

00:42:33.869 --> 00:42:35.690
do so cool with that. Oh, you can do so much.

00:42:35.710 --> 00:42:37.650
And I will say this. They take a really dark

00:42:37.650 --> 00:42:39.750
path where they start killing people, which feels

00:42:39.750 --> 00:42:43.210
really out of touch. Cyclops yells fuck at one

00:42:43.210 --> 00:42:46.389
point. They can really use that PG -13 fuck in

00:42:46.389 --> 00:42:50.150
that kind of way. um but anyway um Outside of

00:42:50.150 --> 00:42:52.989
that, here's how it ends. Dark Phoenix gets to

00:42:52.989 --> 00:42:55.210
the point where she's battling the main alien

00:42:55.210 --> 00:42:58.469
person, who's Jessica Chastain, who complete

00:42:58.469 --> 00:43:01.070
male -only performance there. Very muted. Either

00:43:01.070 --> 00:43:03.210
that or she really took the direction to heart

00:43:03.210 --> 00:43:05.750
of just like, hey, any emotions that you want

00:43:05.750 --> 00:43:07.730
to bring to this role, leave them at the door.

00:43:08.130 --> 00:43:10.610
They might have actually wanted that because

00:43:10.610 --> 00:43:13.190
they were trying to emulate that alien race,

00:43:13.349 --> 00:43:16.710
which was an odd choice. It's not a good choice.

00:43:16.869 --> 00:43:19.929
Anybody doing a movie, emotionless. is not the

00:43:19.929 --> 00:43:22.429
way to go. It's not. It can have its moments

00:43:22.429 --> 00:43:24.909
where you have a small minor character who is

00:43:24.909 --> 00:43:27.949
emotionless, but they are minor characters for

00:43:27.949 --> 00:43:31.130
a reason. You could be cold. But have emotion.

00:43:31.190 --> 00:43:33.150
That's an emotion, though. Yeah. You could be

00:43:33.150 --> 00:43:36.409
cold. And I think they whiffed twice in a row,

00:43:36.510 --> 00:43:38.929
X -Men -wise, with Apocalypse, where you bury

00:43:38.929 --> 00:43:41.889
Oscar Isaac, who's a very strong actor, in lots

00:43:41.889 --> 00:43:45.110
of prosthetics and tell him to have a very understated

00:43:45.110 --> 00:43:47.150
delivery. And you do the same thing with Jessica

00:43:47.150 --> 00:43:49.650
Chastain without the makeup, but the same direction.

00:43:50.170 --> 00:43:52.670
They did it with Lee Payson, Guardians of the

00:43:52.670 --> 00:43:55.530
Galaxy. He was the same blue character under

00:43:55.530 --> 00:43:58.849
a bunch of paint, but two very different villains,

00:43:58.929 --> 00:44:00.110
from what I understand. understand obviously

00:44:00.110 --> 00:44:02.369
i didn't see it but yeah you know what i mean

00:44:02.369 --> 00:44:05.610
so anyway um dark phoenix ends up sacrificing

00:44:05.610 --> 00:44:10.030
herself in space um and so she has her redemption

00:44:10.030 --> 00:44:14.960
and there's a very, so you assume she dies, and

00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:16.760
at the very end, the camera pans up, and you

00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:19.960
see the beautiful sky overlooking Paris, because

00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:22.239
that's where Charles, Xavier, and Magneto are

00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:24.639
playing chess. And you look up at the sky, you

00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:27.400
see a vision of a red phoenix going through the

00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:29.599
sky. So she's still alive in some way, shape,

00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:33.139
or form. Oh, wow. Dark phoenix, too. So, no.

00:44:33.699 --> 00:44:39.619
No. No. So Charles and Magneto still live. They

00:44:39.619 --> 00:44:42.780
live. Because I think at the end they still wanted

00:44:42.780 --> 00:44:46.719
this to be connected to X -Men and X2 as eventually

00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:49.880
big goals to become Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.

00:44:50.219 --> 00:44:54.500
In nine years or whatever. I mean, the future

00:44:54.500 --> 00:44:57.119
Days of Future Past tries to tie that in, right?

00:44:57.239 --> 00:44:59.239
So it's kind of a continuation. As much as I

00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:02.280
love that movie, you can't escape the illogical

00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:06.519
approach. I was perfectly fine with that movie

00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.920
doing some... Yeah. Beyond type connections.

00:45:10.340 --> 00:45:12.880
I will say this. For Dark Phoenix, which is going

00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:15.260
to get a terrible review from me, the way you

00:45:15.260 --> 00:45:17.320
fix this, make it a series. I think that's the

00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:19.559
best way for this to actually draw out the character.

00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:24.019
And also, take a stand, have some balls, make

00:45:24.019 --> 00:45:26.599
Jean Grey the actual villain. Right. Like, they

00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:29.260
have this other alien creature for her to battle

00:45:29.260 --> 00:45:31.440
and eventually redeem herself. And she should

00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:33.719
have a redeeming moment because as a phoenix,

00:45:33.900 --> 00:45:36.559
she'll rise again. But, like, you can't just

00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.989
be, oh, wishy -washy about her being evil. And

00:45:39.989 --> 00:45:42.349
then for fuck this bitch. Exactly. She has to

00:45:42.349 --> 00:45:45.010
be evil. Like, that is a big part of the storyline.

00:45:45.269 --> 00:45:47.449
You know what my Phoenix movie is? Yeah. So,

00:45:47.510 --> 00:45:50.429
Jean Grey, bad guy. Nobody else she's fighting.

00:45:51.510 --> 00:45:56.409
Scott Cyclops fucking finishes her. Unexpected,

00:45:56.449 --> 00:45:59.010
like, trying to redeem her, and you kind of see

00:45:59.010 --> 00:46:01.650
that old Jean Grey, and he just, boom, boom,

00:46:01.789 --> 00:46:02.849
through their face while she's vulnerable. Like

00:46:02.849 --> 00:46:05.250
a Man of Steel moment, I guess. While she's vulnerable,

00:46:05.489 --> 00:46:07.969
because... They can't end it. Or they can't stop

00:46:07.969 --> 00:46:09.989
her. Yeah, okay. He knows he can't stop her.

00:46:10.090 --> 00:46:12.150
Yeah. She's so powerful, though. Like, that's

00:46:12.150 --> 00:46:14.389
a thing. But I want that vulnerable moment where

00:46:14.389 --> 00:46:16.889
Jean's talking. Yeah. Like, even though it is

00:46:16.889 --> 00:46:19.110
Jean, it's like she's remembering, oh, I love

00:46:19.110 --> 00:46:23.230
Cyclops. He's great. Maybe I can get back. And

00:46:23.230 --> 00:46:27.110
then he just goes, pew, dead. Yeah, that's how

00:46:27.110 --> 00:46:29.210
you build to it. Because that's a pretty unsatisfying

00:46:29.210 --> 00:46:31.230
ending to me. Like, I don't know the way I explain

00:46:31.230 --> 00:46:33.309
it this way. No, the way I explain it this way.

00:46:33.769 --> 00:46:38.250
No, no, no. I see what you mean. I think at the

00:46:38.250 --> 00:46:40.489
end of the day, she's the most powerful mutant

00:46:40.489 --> 00:46:43.929
ever. And she turns bad. And the only one who

00:46:43.929 --> 00:46:47.150
can beat her, essentially, is herself. And that's

00:46:47.150 --> 00:46:50.469
what happens. So anyway, bad movie. I'm going

00:46:50.469 --> 00:46:54.639
to give it a half star. They made it. um that's

00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:57.639
it mitchell's era wow i love how it doesn't even

00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:00.019
deserve a fun rating that's actually pretty poetic

00:47:00.019 --> 00:47:01.940
you know what i mean like there's no yeah like

00:47:01.940 --> 00:47:04.179
i i have like one funny line about dobby and

00:47:04.179 --> 00:47:07.579
that's it like this is not a good movie I was

00:47:07.579 --> 00:47:09.320
very upset. I know you saw half the movie. How

00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:11.420
would you rate the first half of Dark Phoenix?

00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:13.460
Which is the worst of the halves. The thing is,

00:47:13.539 --> 00:47:16.420
like, for this podcast series, I've seen way

00:47:16.420 --> 00:47:19.559
worse movies. Okay. Which is fine, but you can

00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:20.780
still have the same rating. Yeah, right, right.

00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:22.699
I just wanted to, like, you know, point that

00:47:22.699 --> 00:47:26.760
out. That this was just, like, a boring movie

00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:30.070
versus, like, a terrible... And for me, that's

00:47:30.070 --> 00:47:32.949
the biggest sin. Right. I get it. Okay, actually,

00:47:33.030 --> 00:47:34.670
another question. Did you have more fun watching

00:47:34.670 --> 00:47:37.210
Lethal or Fairly Lethal? Yeah, I was laughing

00:47:37.210 --> 00:47:40.929
at how dumb it was. And, like, unaware of how

00:47:40.929 --> 00:47:43.949
dumb it was at times. Yeah, the issue was Holmes

00:47:43.949 --> 00:47:46.150
and Watson or whatever the fuck that movie was.

00:47:46.210 --> 00:47:49.969
Yeah. It was just fucking, like, terrible. I

00:47:49.969 --> 00:47:53.230
can't explain how fucking terrible it was. I've

00:47:53.230 --> 00:47:54.769
seen Green Lantern. That's how I feel about,

00:47:54.869 --> 00:47:57.610
like... I've watched, like... 20 minutes of Green

00:47:57.610 --> 00:47:59.349
Lantern. That's how I feel with Leo the Lion

00:47:59.349 --> 00:48:03.610
and Yoga Hosers. Leo the Lion, I can laugh at

00:48:03.610 --> 00:48:05.369
because they thought they were making a good

00:48:05.369 --> 00:48:08.590
movie. Whereas Kevin Smith knows better. Fuck

00:48:08.590 --> 00:48:14.489
Yoga Hosers. It was like on Holmes and Watson.

00:48:14.630 --> 00:48:19.010
They were purposely doing that shit. I don't

00:48:19.010 --> 00:48:21.030
understand the motivation. They made that movie

00:48:21.030 --> 00:48:26.039
on purpose. I mean, I guess I'd give it, you

00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:29.199
know, one Rising Phoenix out of five. Okay. So

00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.519
an average rating of three quarters of a Rising

00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:33.440
Phoenix. Three quarters of a Rising Phoenix.

00:48:33.460 --> 00:48:35.940
Did you say Rising Phoenix? No, I just said Star.

00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.239
Okay. He literally didn't give it a fun rating.

00:48:38.340 --> 00:48:40.519
No, I love that. That's great. He gave it the

00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:42.699
Mitchell Zero. Or should we say Dying, let's

00:48:42.699 --> 00:48:45.800
say Dying Phoenix. Okay, sure. It's on the downfall.

00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:47.659
Don't hold your breath. One Dying franchise.

00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:50.559
So Dark Phoenix 2 will make it rise again. Yes.

00:48:50.619 --> 00:48:52.480
I can't wait until Marvel takes reigns of the

00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:54.099
X -Men. I wonder how they're going to do it.

00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.239
Oh, it's going to be an end credit scene of one

00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:58.179
of their movies. Oh, sure. Oh, totally. Where

00:48:58.179 --> 00:49:00.360
there's just all of a sudden, and you just see...

00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:01.840
It's just, oh, you see her chink, and then you

00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:03.760
just see the claws. Oh, okay. Something like

00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:05.219
that. I was going with, they're just going to

00:49:05.219 --> 00:49:08.900
show you this person that doesn't know who they

00:49:08.900 --> 00:49:12.019
are, or trying to figure out who they are. That's

00:49:12.019 --> 00:49:15.619
me. But then they're going to be like, is this

00:49:15.619 --> 00:49:19.000
the place I need to be? And then you just see

00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:22.699
a sign, Professor Xavier's School for Gifted.

00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:26.849
Oh. children whatever kids children kids whatever

00:49:26.849 --> 00:49:31.170
kids Xavier always Xavier always seeks her out

00:49:31.170 --> 00:49:33.690
though in the source material right yeah he's

00:49:33.690 --> 00:49:37.969
able to find them through Cerebro yeah but I

00:49:37.969 --> 00:49:39.929
don't want him in it I just want like the school

00:49:39.929 --> 00:49:43.210
that's it like I don't want anybody yet right

00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.179
It would be cool. I'm really curious what franchise

00:49:46.179 --> 00:49:49.360
they latch it on to in terms of if they do an

00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:51.619
end credits and which franchise are they going

00:49:51.619 --> 00:49:54.340
to forever tie the X -Men to. Because that's

00:49:54.340 --> 00:49:55.820
what you're kind of doing if you're doing it

00:49:55.820 --> 00:49:57.440
that way. It would be interesting because you

00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.739
could tie Spider -Man in, kind of. Right. But

00:50:00.739 --> 00:50:01.920
I don't think it would be this soon. You know

00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:04.440
what I want to see? I want to see... I don't

00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.420
know if you remember any of the Spider -Man animated

00:50:07.420 --> 00:50:12.199
series. But where he's... in a different dimension

00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:14.960
or a different planet, and then he pulls these

00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:19.280
other Marvel superheroes together. Do you guys

00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:21.019
remember that? It sounds like a lot of Marvel

00:50:21.019 --> 00:50:25.460
fiction. Yeah, he pulls Iron Man, the clobbering

00:50:25.460 --> 00:50:31.420
guy. What's his name? That thing. Is it Secret

00:50:31.420 --> 00:50:33.139
Wars are you talking about? Maybe. The series?

00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:36.219
It was like a big event in the 80s and that's

00:50:36.219 --> 00:50:37.460
how the Venom suit became the Venom suit. That

00:50:37.460 --> 00:50:39.840
could be what it's built off of. I don't know

00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:42.659
what the source material was but then like Doctor

00:50:42.659 --> 00:50:45.280
Doom was kind of he was pulled over there and

00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:48.699
I think he kind of was kind of the bad guy type.

00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:52.309
He's always like this bad guy with good intentions

00:50:52.309 --> 00:50:55.650
type character right i just yeah i just had a

00:50:55.650 --> 00:50:58.449
tie -in point for spider -man now so like yeah

00:50:58.449 --> 00:51:00.090
he could have been brought into x -men but i

00:51:00.090 --> 00:51:04.730
just had an idea he's at the end of he's trying

00:51:04.730 --> 00:51:07.289
to find that next leader kind of thing or he's

00:51:07.289 --> 00:51:09.090
going to branch out on his own one of those things

00:51:09.090 --> 00:51:13.260
what if he's taken in by reed richards That'd

00:51:13.260 --> 00:51:15.360
be cool. Well, because he does try to join in

00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:17.659
the very first Spider -Man, he tries to join

00:51:17.659 --> 00:51:19.659
the Fantastic Four. Right, exactly. I think that'd

00:51:19.659 --> 00:51:22.199
be a better fitting spot. Yeah. If we're tying

00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:24.480
anything into Spider -Man. Which, there might

00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:26.000
be nothing. Who knows? There could be nothing,

00:51:26.059 --> 00:51:29.360
but I think it'd be great. That is a Herculean

00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:31.260
effort that they'll have to put forward to make

00:51:31.260 --> 00:51:33.800
a good Fantastic Four movie. Right. Because it's

00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:35.780
been impossible outside the Incredibles. Which

00:51:35.780 --> 00:51:40.059
may really kill Marvel. Because at this point,

00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:42.400
they're at Endgame, they have Spider -Man, it

00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:44.659
kind of feels like an ending point. Yeah, like

00:51:44.659 --> 00:51:46.920
if they stumble and put out a bad movie, if they

00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:49.059
put out a Thor Dark World now, you know? Whoever's

00:51:49.059 --> 00:51:52.699
next has to hold the torch. Yeah, right. Human

00:51:52.699 --> 00:51:58.300
torch. Whoa! So if they're going to tie in X

00:51:58.300 --> 00:52:00.059
-Men, the most natural fit is through Scarlet

00:52:00.059 --> 00:52:03.659
Witch. Yeah, that's fair. She is Magneto's daughter,

00:52:03.820 --> 00:52:06.800
I'm not sure if they would extend that. But that

00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:08.400
would be the most natural extension. Turns out

00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:10.300
Michael Fassbender's been her dad the whole time.

00:52:10.300 --> 00:52:12.460
What are they going to do with Quicksilver, though?

00:52:12.539 --> 00:52:14.920
He dead. He dead, bro. He dead as fuck. Oh, he

00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:17.219
dead. Did he die in the... He died in Age of

00:52:17.219 --> 00:52:19.360
Ultron. He died in both? No, he died in Phoenix.

00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:21.539
No, no, no. Oh, oh, that. No, they're just going

00:52:21.539 --> 00:52:23.380
to reboot it. The box Quicksilver? You're thinking

00:52:23.380 --> 00:52:25.880
they're just going to merge the Dark Phoenix.

00:52:25.940 --> 00:52:28.619
What happened to him? Oh, he lives. He lives.

00:52:30.250 --> 00:52:33.250
What is that? No, he's not going to be connected

00:52:33.250 --> 00:52:35.230
back. They're going to reboot it. They're going

00:52:35.230 --> 00:52:40.329
to recast. I get it, guys. Calm down. The point

00:52:40.329 --> 00:52:44.289
was, there were two iterations. Fuck you. Hey,

00:52:44.449 --> 00:52:48.269
the most recent one lives. I know you have a

00:52:48.269 --> 00:52:51.489
codename, but I will fight you. I loved how they

00:52:51.489 --> 00:52:53.809
portrayed Quicksilver and Fox as opposed to how

00:52:53.809 --> 00:52:56.929
they did in Marvel. He's so much more fun. And

00:52:56.929 --> 00:52:59.530
they show him in such a cool way. why you should

00:52:59.530 --> 00:53:03.170
watch um well i've seen the scene where he does

00:53:03.170 --> 00:53:05.530
i've seen that scene and that was that was really

00:53:05.530 --> 00:53:07.230
i remember watching that in theater it coming

00:53:07.230 --> 00:53:08.929
out of nowhere because no one knew it was coming

00:53:08.929 --> 00:53:12.349
yeah the problem is now i know yeah now you know

00:53:12.349 --> 00:53:15.010
it's still good it's always it's always how it

00:53:15.010 --> 00:53:18.769
is well done anyway so that's our rating i'd

00:53:18.769 --> 00:53:20.530
love to move on and talk about things that were

00:53:20.530 --> 00:53:22.710
let's talk about yeah we're having emotions about

00:53:22.710 --> 00:53:25.550
emotions let's talk about movies we have emotions

00:53:25.550 --> 00:53:27.869
about yeah yeah yeah let's do it we'll start

00:53:27.869 --> 00:53:31.269
with me Okay. Oh, wow. He wants to make sure.

00:53:31.309 --> 00:53:33.929
Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. T -Dog's going to

00:53:33.929 --> 00:53:37.590
lay down a real knee. So I'm excited about. Oh,

00:53:37.590 --> 00:53:41.869
with the steel. All right. Go ahead. I'm excited

00:53:41.869 --> 00:53:46.530
about two movies. Two? Wow. Whoa, whoa, whoa,

00:53:46.530 --> 00:53:51.610
whoa, whoa. Pick one. No, you're good. Mainly

00:53:51.610 --> 00:53:53.250
because I can't think of other movies that are

00:53:53.250 --> 00:53:56.829
coming out. I'll take two of the heavy hitters.

00:53:57.429 --> 00:54:00.670
Spider -Man and then Joker. I haven't heard of

00:54:00.670 --> 00:54:03.130
them either. We already talked about Joker. Fuck

00:54:03.130 --> 00:54:05.849
you. Did that come out at Sundance? I totally

00:54:05.849 --> 00:54:08.409
forgot. Both of those are very indie. I don't

00:54:08.409 --> 00:54:10.329
know if you've heard of either one. Is that an

00:54:10.329 --> 00:54:14.170
A24 film? It's definitely a Cannes film. Don't

00:54:14.170 --> 00:54:17.429
jump me on it. Before, when we were talking,

00:54:17.630 --> 00:54:20.539
I think... For Joker, at least, Joaquin Phoenix,

00:54:20.739 --> 00:54:25.000
from the trailers, it seems to fit his type of

00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:28.920
acting persona, other roles that he's been in.

00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:33.179
Whether or not you like that or not, that could

00:54:33.179 --> 00:54:37.900
very well be a selling or a point where you don't

00:54:37.900 --> 00:54:39.960
go see the film. But it'll be an interesting

00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:42.300
one. But it looks like it has a very unique take

00:54:42.300 --> 00:54:44.280
on the character. Right. Which is awesome. Yeah,

00:54:44.300 --> 00:54:47.659
exactly. It looks like it's not going for a broad

00:54:47.659 --> 00:54:50.039
appeal if you're having a Batman character, I

00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:51.599
guess. But still, it's looking like it's trying

00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:53.800
to narrow its focus a little bit more. It's trying

00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:56.179
to be an indie movie with an A -list budget.

00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:59.199
Yeah, exactly. It's an A -list budget. It's an

00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:04.260
A -list material. Everything about it is A -list.

00:55:04.380 --> 00:55:07.099
And it's just this different perspective or different

00:55:07.099 --> 00:55:12.380
take. Unique character take to the Joker. Yeah.

00:55:12.730 --> 00:55:14.670
for the most part. And a lot of people were saying,

00:55:14.829 --> 00:55:16.170
and I'm not sure if Todd Phillips, the director,

00:55:16.329 --> 00:55:19.710
said this, or folks who watched the trailer were

00:55:19.710 --> 00:55:22.730
just attributing this characteristic, but a lot

00:55:22.730 --> 00:55:24.449
of people were saying this is as if the Joker

00:55:24.449 --> 00:55:27.510
were existing in Taxi Driver, in that universe,

00:55:27.630 --> 00:55:30.610
which of course says he built. Like a very grimy

00:55:30.610 --> 00:55:34.110
New York. So, anyway, I'm super excited too.

00:55:34.250 --> 00:55:37.070
I think it looks cool. I hope he says, you talking

00:55:37.070 --> 00:55:40.510
to me? You talking to me? Maybe he just laughs

00:55:40.510 --> 00:55:43.449
at himself. Did you guys watch Her? yeah absolutely

00:55:43.449 --> 00:55:47.389
the Spike Jonze movie yeah love it that was probably

00:55:47.389 --> 00:55:49.309
my favorite movie from that year it was really

00:55:49.309 --> 00:55:53.070
good cool cool sick thanks for delivering on

00:55:53.070 --> 00:55:55.269
you know like hey did you watch that and then

00:55:55.269 --> 00:55:57.590
we just said yes yeah yeah yeah that was a movie

00:55:57.590 --> 00:56:00.789
that I watched yeah Walking Venus no yeah Scarlett

00:56:00.789 --> 00:56:04.920
Johansson yeah I love your wild Rooney Mara yeah

00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:08.159
yeah those are all oh Chris Pratt Chris Pratt

00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:11.539
I feel like that character that's portrayed there

00:56:11.539 --> 00:56:15.320
is like oh sure kind of alongside the character

00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:18.000
that's going to be in Joker yeah yeah yeah yeah

00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.119
definitely like a reinterpretation of an outcast

00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:21.940
yeah right and so that's that's the only reason

00:56:21.940 --> 00:56:24.440
I brought up that character specifically yeah

00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:27.659
I'm excited cool dude I have enough movies that

00:56:27.659 --> 00:56:29.539
I'll wait until the end because I don't want

00:56:29.539 --> 00:56:30.880
you guys to get your movie ticket. Are there

00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:34.559
any, like, good dog movies? Oh, my God. Yes.

00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:39.239
What was that? Dogs on Broadway? No, no. I need

00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:40.760
to look it up real quick. It's, like, racing

00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:44.739
in the... Dogs in Cars? The Art of Racing in

00:56:44.739 --> 00:56:47.340
the Rain. Jesus Christ. That trailer played before

00:56:47.340 --> 00:56:50.179
Rocketman. Oh, God. It looks like the cheesiest

00:56:50.179 --> 00:56:52.199
fucking dog movie. What is up with this dog movie?

00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:56.489
I will say this. I would love... Someone to do

00:56:56.489 --> 00:56:59.150
a deep dive and see why these things are so damn

00:56:59.150 --> 00:57:01.150
successful. Maybe it's plain because Americans

00:57:01.150 --> 00:57:07.190
love dogs. We're rolling Dennis Quaid into being

00:57:07.190 --> 00:57:10.050
the voice of a dog. He's not even a person in

00:57:10.050 --> 00:57:14.610
the movie. He's just a voice. This is nuts. I'm

00:57:14.610 --> 00:57:16.710
sure my mom loves it. My stepmom is going to

00:57:16.710 --> 00:57:21.329
love it. I'm floored by what producer had this

00:57:21.329 --> 00:57:23.809
idea of like, hey, you know dogs? We should just

00:57:23.809 --> 00:57:26.230
make dog movies. What was the first one that

00:57:26.230 --> 00:57:29.030
you would attribute to dog movies? Freaking Kevin

00:57:29.030 --> 00:57:31.030
Costner is going to be the dog in this movie.

00:57:31.190 --> 00:57:34.630
This is more bound. Even before that, we got

00:57:34.630 --> 00:57:38.670
Old Yeller. Are we saying like, because there's

00:57:38.670 --> 00:57:40.389
like the same production company who's been making

00:57:40.389 --> 00:57:42.570
these dog movies? No, we're talking dog movies

00:57:42.570 --> 00:57:46.110
in general. Like Lassie? Lassie, yeah. Do you

00:57:46.110 --> 00:57:50.789
want me to go back there? It was really an honest

00:57:50.789 --> 00:57:54.150
question. 101 Dalmatians. I would say 101 Dalmatians

00:57:54.150 --> 00:57:55.349
and All Dogs Go to Heaven. Those are different

00:57:55.349 --> 00:57:59.070
categories because they're animated. And you've

00:57:59.070 --> 00:58:01.909
got to use Oliver and Company as well. America's

00:58:01.909 --> 00:58:05.309
Affection for Dogs. You can't underrate that.

00:58:05.409 --> 00:58:08.170
It's insane. It's insane. Like, I love dogs.

00:58:08.210 --> 00:58:11.090
Hey, I love them too. I love them too. Okay,

00:58:11.130 --> 00:58:13.170
but actual movies you guys are having a feeling

00:58:13.170 --> 00:58:15.150
about. Okay, should I go? Go ahead. All right,

00:58:15.170 --> 00:58:17.050
I'm going to shit on... I'm going to take this

00:58:17.050 --> 00:58:18.769
moment to shit on Gemini Man for a little bit.

00:58:19.030 --> 00:58:21.650
Gemini! Oh, it's not Rocket Man. No, not Rocket

00:58:21.650 --> 00:58:23.030
Man. It's Gemini Man. No, played before Rocket

00:58:23.030 --> 00:58:24.349
Man, which reminded me of how much it looks dumb.

00:58:24.389 --> 00:58:29.449
This is the movie where it's Will Smith... It's

00:58:29.449 --> 00:58:31.889
a retread, too. It's what? It's a retread. It's

00:58:31.889 --> 00:58:33.909
a reboot. Oh, is it a reboot? Oh, I didn't even

00:58:33.909 --> 00:58:36.630
know. So, yeah, this is... You're excited for

00:58:36.630 --> 00:58:39.510
it? No, I think it looks dumb as hell. I didn't

00:58:39.510 --> 00:58:41.110
know it was a reboot, then I guess, but whatever.

00:58:41.349 --> 00:58:43.309
You don't like the... Well, so there was a mini

00:58:43.309 --> 00:58:46.719
-series. No, I don't. Do you have an issue with

00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:48.739
younger looking Will Smith? No, I think younger

00:58:48.739 --> 00:58:50.840
looking Will Smith looks great. It's just the

00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:55.340
fact that it's the premise is the most Metal

00:58:55.340 --> 00:58:59.019
Gear solid ass shit fucking clone. A younger

00:58:59.019 --> 00:59:02.019
clone is sent to kill the original soldier. That

00:59:02.019 --> 00:59:04.280
is some solid snake. Literally the plot on IMDB.

00:59:04.539 --> 00:59:07.260
An over the hill hitman faces off against a younger

00:59:07.260 --> 00:59:09.639
clone of himself. Yep, there you go. That's the

00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:14.559
premise. The trailer just looks so silly. I mean,

00:59:14.579 --> 00:59:16.340
obviously they're playing around with the de

00:59:16.340 --> 00:59:18.440
-aging tech that's been going around recently,

00:59:18.500 --> 00:59:22.860
I guess, right? Sure, the Captain Marvel stuff.

00:59:23.059 --> 00:59:24.699
Okay, it looked good in Captain Marvel. Yeah,

00:59:24.699 --> 00:59:26.579
it looked really good in Captain Marvel. And

00:59:26.579 --> 00:59:29.519
it looks good from the trailers. It does. I mean

00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:32.579
the age progression. Not shooting on the effects.

00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:34.780
Yeah, no, no, no. Me neither. I'm not. Oh, the

00:59:34.780 --> 00:59:38.780
effects look dumb. It's just, I don't know. The

00:59:38.780 --> 00:59:40.519
movie itself. It just immediately is like, this

00:59:40.519 --> 00:59:42.280
just looks like a ripoff of Metal Gear Solid.

00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:45.019
If anyone can sell the movie, Will Smith can

00:59:45.019 --> 00:59:48.539
sell the movie. Kenny! We'll see. I said if anyone.

00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:53.199
After Earth. I'm not so sure. I never saw that.

00:59:53.340 --> 00:59:57.489
After Earth was bad. That's fair. Yeah, so I

00:59:57.489 --> 00:59:59.170
don't know. That was just my little brief blip.

00:59:59.250 --> 01:00:01.289
Gemini Man looks dumb as hell. Terminator Dark

01:00:01.289 --> 01:00:03.889
Fate looks also dumb, but I'm probably going

01:00:03.889 --> 01:00:06.449
to watch it. Well, yeah, at least you admit it.

01:00:06.570 --> 01:00:09.469
Yeah, I think I'd rather see Gemini than Terminator.

01:00:09.469 --> 01:00:11.690
Really? To be honest. I don't know. Dude, I lost

01:00:11.690 --> 01:00:14.449
all faith in Terminator. What was the Christian

01:00:14.449 --> 01:00:19.030
Bale one? Salvation. Ooh. That did not bring

01:00:19.030 --> 01:00:21.230
any salvation to that franchise. No, it didn't.

01:00:21.230 --> 01:00:24.480
But this one... eliminates Salvation from the

01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:28.599
canon. Oh, does it? Yeah. I forget her name,

01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:29.780
but they're bringing an original Sarah Connor

01:00:29.780 --> 01:00:34.780
actress. Yeah, who is it? Oh, shoot. Linda, no.

01:00:35.179 --> 01:00:41.050
Yeah, Linda something. Shoot. I'm mad at myself.

01:00:41.110 --> 01:00:44.550
I can't figure it out. Linda Hamilton. Yes! Winner.

01:00:44.570 --> 01:00:47.010
Thank you. Pretty good. Yeah, just that she's

01:00:47.010 --> 01:00:48.710
back, you know, that's, like, cool. And, like,

01:00:48.730 --> 01:00:50.849
James Cameron's producing again, so there's a

01:00:50.849 --> 01:00:52.449
chance that it could be fun. There's a chance.

01:00:52.510 --> 01:00:54.730
I mean, especially since it does, it gets rid

01:00:54.730 --> 01:00:57.840
of everything since T2. Right. Right. Including

01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:01.500
T3? Really? Including T3. That's fine because

01:01:01.500 --> 01:01:03.880
the first two were easily the best. Oh, for sure.

01:01:03.980 --> 01:01:06.300
So there's a chance that this can actually be

01:01:06.300 --> 01:01:08.079
first. Yeah, I mean, you know, whatever. Yeah,

01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:12.079
and another shout out to Mackenzie Davis who

01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:14.219
I think is going to be one of the Terminators

01:01:14.219 --> 01:01:15.920
in the movie, right? I think she's a good actress.

01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:18.679
She's in my favorite Black Mirror episode called

01:01:18.679 --> 01:01:20.900
San Junipero. This is going to be a very interesting

01:01:20.900 --> 01:01:24.539
action scene. Sanjay and the Parrots were the...

01:01:24.539 --> 01:01:28.619
Dogs. Not the dogs. They're two people who are

01:01:28.619 --> 01:01:32.659
in this paradise. It's revealed later what that

01:01:32.659 --> 01:01:36.960
paradise actually is. Two lovers, both women.

01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:39.739
She's one of them. Oh, right. Sanjay and the

01:01:39.739 --> 01:01:41.380
Parrots. I don't want to give it away. I realize

01:01:41.380 --> 01:01:44.019
you're avoiding spoilers, but it took me. Anyway,

01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:47.639
here's what I'm excited about. Midsommar. And

01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:49.559
I know I brought this up before, but it's finally

01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:53.099
coming out next week. And I am so damn excited.

01:01:53.579 --> 01:01:56.760
Ari Aster is directing. This is his second feature

01:01:56.760 --> 01:01:59.699
film. He previously directed Hereditary, which

01:01:59.699 --> 01:02:02.619
was the horror movie that came out last year

01:02:02.619 --> 01:02:05.960
that was a really big surprise hit for A24. And,

01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.699
of course, A24 is back producing Aster's newest

01:02:08.699 --> 01:02:11.940
film. And I believe, actually, it's pronounced

01:02:11.940 --> 01:02:15.519
Midsommar, but I'm going to say Midsommar because

01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:18.360
I'm not pretentious. yeah so I'm very excited

01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:21.300
about this horror film that promises to make

01:02:21.300 --> 01:02:23.800
you scared of broad daylight yeah that oh my

01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:25.719
god I'm really curious I'm really scared to go

01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:28.639
see it it looks really good though yeah so it

01:02:28.639 --> 01:02:33.300
involves occult kind of ritual going on in Sweden.

01:02:33.539 --> 01:02:35.539
I don't know where. Switzerland. Netherlands.

01:02:35.780 --> 01:02:38.119
Look it up for me, Mike. But anyway, in this

01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:43.579
far off Sweden land where all these, you know,

01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:48.280
basically... Look at that. We have basically

01:02:48.280 --> 01:02:52.219
a group of young people, teenagers, early 20s,

01:02:52.219 --> 01:02:54.739
going out to this cult ritual that happens every

01:02:54.739 --> 01:02:57.460
90 years. And you don't know what's happening

01:02:57.460 --> 01:02:59.940
until you get deeper and deeper into the ritual.

01:03:00.139 --> 01:03:04.159
So it sounds a lot like Witcher Man or Wicker

01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:07.280
Man. Not the Nicolas Cage one. No, the original.

01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:10.300
Which is one of the most terrifying movies for

01:03:10.300 --> 01:03:14.760
me. Anyway, I'm very excited to get scared. I

01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:18.599
love how horror just plays with the primal fear

01:03:18.599 --> 01:03:20.960
that people have. It's one of the few things

01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:23.099
in movies where you get that primal reaction.

01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:25.260
Same thing in comedies, but on the complete opposite

01:03:25.260 --> 01:03:27.880
side of the scale. And I just love movies that

01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:30.840
play me like a tune. And this one, I don't think,

01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:33.500
and not to say it's manipulative, but it definitely

01:03:33.500 --> 01:03:35.619
builds tension the right way, tells an awesome

01:03:35.619 --> 01:03:37.260
story, and scares the shit out of you when it

01:03:37.260 --> 01:03:40.599
wants. So I'm very excited. Ari Aster's Midsommar

01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:43.119
coming out next week. Did you say play me like

01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:49.679
a Tim? Like a Tim. I'm excited to see Spider

01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:53.320
-Man. I'm excited to see Midsommar. I have a

01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:55.340
lot of movies coming up in the next two weeks

01:03:55.340 --> 01:03:58.340
that I could have said, all right, yes, I'm ready.

01:03:58.699 --> 01:04:01.059
So you guys talked about the ones that I'm really

01:04:01.059 --> 01:04:03.039
excited for. Yesterday I'm probably going to

01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:04.920
see just because it looks interesting. Oh, I

01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:07.099
really want to see that. That looks interesting.

01:04:07.659 --> 01:04:09.599
I'm going to talk about one that I want to shit

01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:14.809
on. Crawl. Crawl. Which one's Crawl? So I saw

01:04:14.809 --> 01:04:18.170
a trailer for it before... Is this the alligator

01:04:18.170 --> 01:04:20.090
movie? This is the alligator movie. Oh, this

01:04:20.090 --> 01:04:21.170
is the alligator movie. This is the alligator

01:04:21.170 --> 01:04:23.250
movie. And the only reason I'm going to shit

01:04:23.250 --> 01:04:25.130
on it is because I could have made this movie

01:04:25.130 --> 01:04:29.829
easily. Sure, okay. Scary movie about a... Going

01:04:29.829 --> 01:04:33.289
to read the IMDb plot. A young woman, while attempting

01:04:33.289 --> 01:04:35.670
to save her father during a Category 5 hurricane,

01:04:35.989 --> 01:04:38.610
finds herself trapped in a flooding house and

01:04:38.610 --> 01:04:41.090
must fight for her life against alligators. I'm

01:04:41.090 --> 01:04:43.090
kind of a sucker for creature features, and this

01:04:43.090 --> 01:04:45.050
is what it sounds like. Oh my god, it looks so

01:04:45.050 --> 01:04:47.130
bad. Oh yeah, no, don't get me wrong. It's like

01:04:47.130 --> 01:04:49.909
a B -movie at best. Oh, it totally is a B -movie.

01:04:49.949 --> 01:04:51.869
And that's fine and dandy for certain things,

01:04:51.949 --> 01:04:53.889
but for whatever reason, this one has rubbed

01:04:53.889 --> 01:04:55.630
me the wrong way. Yeah, I'm not sure if I'm going

01:04:55.630 --> 01:04:57.530
to watch it in theaters, but I'm definitely going

01:04:57.530 --> 01:05:00.119
to watch it at some point. they're just stuck

01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:02.360
in this part of the house for like 50 minutes

01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:04.199
of the movie probably where they're just like

01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:06.480
we don't want to we don't want to swim over there

01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:08.239
because there's alligators they're gonna get

01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:11.260
us and like in the trailer like we see like classic

01:05:11.260 --> 01:05:14.980
okay yeah exactly like i'm done all right i don't

01:05:14.980 --> 01:05:19.010
know i'm i'm very much not for this But are you

01:05:19.010 --> 01:05:21.429
going to watch it? No. Okay, not at all. Not

01:05:21.429 --> 01:05:24.250
even like a morbid curiosity about it. It's only

01:05:24.250 --> 01:05:25.829
an hour and 27 minutes. What if you lose... What?

01:05:26.170 --> 01:05:28.250
And 50 of those minutes are spent on the one

01:05:28.250 --> 01:05:29.329
side of the house. Well, I'm still watching it.

01:05:29.449 --> 01:05:31.210
An hour and 27 minutes, you're going to watch

01:05:31.210 --> 01:05:32.670
that? Dude, it's like 80... Well, it's almost

01:05:32.670 --> 01:05:34.469
90 minutes. You're going to waste your life,

01:05:34.550 --> 01:05:37.889
though. Dude, I will say this. And I... Well,

01:05:37.949 --> 01:05:40.389
I make big movie fans. That's all you have. No.

01:05:40.730 --> 01:05:44.059
I will take... Outside of a boring movie like

01:05:44.059 --> 01:05:46.920
Dark Phoenix, I'm usually taking away some kind

01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:49.699
of learn from a movie of like, oh, I've never

01:05:49.699 --> 01:05:52.059
seen that before. Oh, this is how they attempted

01:05:52.059 --> 01:05:53.780
to tell this kind of story, blah, blah, blah.

01:05:54.349 --> 01:05:57.110
I'm so into the art of it. Even crappier movies,

01:05:57.349 --> 01:05:59.130
I might get to learn from. Even if it's like,

01:05:59.190 --> 01:06:02.449
don't do that. Or whatever. Don't swim in the

01:06:02.449 --> 01:06:04.449
alligators. Don't go to a Category 5 hurricane.

01:06:04.510 --> 01:06:10.969
Not like a life level. I can tell you right now,

01:06:11.050 --> 01:06:17.449
don't go into a Category 5 hurricane. What if

01:06:17.449 --> 01:06:21.269
you are in that situation with a Category 5 hurricane?

01:06:21.409 --> 01:06:23.630
If there's a Category 5 hurricane, I'm evacuating.

01:06:24.319 --> 01:06:26.739
With an alligator. What if you sleep through

01:06:26.739 --> 01:06:29.239
the evacuation? No, fuck that. I'm not sleeping

01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:32.219
that much. I'm not sleeping for a day and a half.

01:06:33.940 --> 01:06:35.679
It's like, you know what, man? It's been a long

01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:37.639
week at work. I just need to sleep this weekend.

01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:39.719
Hurricane Michael's coming through the area.

01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:41.699
Yeah, I'm going to sleep. I'm just going to catch

01:06:41.699 --> 01:06:44.000
some Z's. I'm just going to ride this out. It'll

01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:46.920
be fine. What about Fast and Furious, Hobbs and

01:06:46.920 --> 01:06:51.679
Shaw? I'm excited for it. I need to watch the

01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:56.539
rest of them. you really don't I haven't seen

01:06:56.539 --> 01:07:00.300
them since Paul Walker passed the last one so

01:07:00.300 --> 01:07:02.980
you've only missed Fate of the Furious yeah you've

01:07:02.980 --> 01:07:05.280
only missed Fate of the Furious and let me tell

01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:08.420
you right now it's fine I so forgot what that

01:07:08.420 --> 01:07:12.320
one was even about my thing is like that's one

01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:14.380
of those movie series that I'm just like turn

01:07:14.380 --> 01:07:17.219
the brain off I'm gonna watch this and it's fantastic

01:07:17.219 --> 01:07:19.980
when you do that like Furious 7 is still one

01:07:19.980 --> 01:07:22.679
of my favorite movies because I went in and just

01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:26.159
watch this yeah good action super successful

01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:28.599
it was fantastic there was great action sequences

01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:29.880
I think it's the most successful movie in the

01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:33.210
franchise by far yeah By far. Besides maybe the

01:07:33.210 --> 01:07:36.110
first one in retrospect. Right. But I still think

01:07:36.110 --> 01:07:37.949
that one, a lot of it because of Paul Walker.

01:07:38.110 --> 01:07:39.829
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because that was his last one.

01:07:39.869 --> 01:07:42.789
Because the scene was beautiful, too. Yeah, how

01:07:42.789 --> 01:07:44.889
they do it and all that, it's been memed to death,

01:07:44.969 --> 01:07:47.230
unfortunately, but the intentions were right.

01:07:47.289 --> 01:07:47.829
The intentions were good. And the intentions

01:07:47.829 --> 01:07:49.510
did it right in the movie. Everything's going

01:07:49.510 --> 01:07:51.550
to be memed to death. Yeah. It's the rule of

01:07:51.550 --> 01:07:52.769
the internet. Yeah, it's the rule of the internet.

01:07:52.929 --> 01:07:55.550
I just liked how they ended it, like everything.

01:07:55.730 --> 01:07:58.409
Oh, yeah. That's a great spot to stop, especially

01:07:58.409 --> 01:08:01.460
since 8 wasn't. yeah the greatest it was fine

01:08:01.460 --> 01:08:04.659
yeah it was fine but it was again forget i think

01:08:04.659 --> 01:08:07.320
the rock is in a cast for most of it oh what

01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:09.860
yeah like he's very limited in that yeah but

01:08:09.860 --> 01:08:13.039
he has this spot where he just like cracks out

01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:15.400
of it with his arm he flexes oh that sounds pretty

01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:18.220
good oh it's hysterical it really because oh

01:08:18.220 --> 01:08:19.659
that sounds pretty good so apparently The Rock

01:08:19.659 --> 01:08:22.720
and Vin Diesel don't get along like on set well

01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:25.659
this is this is more so why I think they had

01:08:25.659 --> 01:08:27.800
this branch out yeah yes because they wanted

01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:30.220
to have The Rock in more movies he sells movies

01:08:30.220 --> 01:08:32.319
that kind of stuff so they put him in Hobbs and

01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:36.479
Shaw which I'm not gonna lie looks dumb Yeah.

01:08:36.539 --> 01:08:40.000
I'm so here for it. I'm so here for it. Exactly.

01:08:40.899 --> 01:08:43.039
100%. The trailer where they go... 100 % knows

01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:46.479
what it is, right? The trailer, the one I always

01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:49.220
imagined was when he goes and he says, that's

01:08:49.220 --> 01:08:52.140
my door. And he goes, and he opens the door and

01:08:52.140 --> 01:08:54.060
there's all those bad guys. Bunch of bad guys

01:08:54.060 --> 01:08:58.380
behind that door? Yeah. good luck with your door

01:08:58.380 --> 01:09:01.060
you know like that kind of stuff that's the humor

01:09:01.060 --> 01:09:03.039
that's the level of humor we got and I'm here

01:09:03.039 --> 01:09:05.800
for it I just want Vin Diesel to go back to Pitch

01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:09.079
Black make another sequel of Reddick interesting

01:09:09.079 --> 01:09:13.720
okay I'm here for that yeah yeah I can do that

01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:15.699
Fast Five is my favorite I'm waiting for the

01:09:15.699 --> 01:09:19.869
Past Fire 2 yes the truth The sequel that was

01:09:19.869 --> 01:09:22.109
promised. The sequel that was promised. I don't

01:09:22.109 --> 01:09:26.149
think I saw the Pacifier one. I think I've heard

01:09:26.149 --> 01:09:27.989
a quote from him. I'm not sure if it was direct

01:09:27.989 --> 01:09:30.350
or somebody just... Was it involving the word

01:09:30.350 --> 01:09:34.090
family at all? No, it was basically just... It

01:09:34.090 --> 01:09:37.109
was pretty much the motivation for the Pacifier.

01:09:37.430 --> 01:09:40.390
Sometimes you have to make shitty movies to get

01:09:40.390 --> 01:09:43.899
funding. Okay, that's fair. I just, there's a,

01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:46.239
if you guys watch Cinema Sins, there's a Cinema

01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:48.939
Sins about the Fast and the Furious thing. And

01:09:48.939 --> 01:09:52.859
basically every time Vin Diesel's in it, he just

01:09:52.859 --> 01:09:58.079
says, family. Oh gosh. That's true. Sounds like

01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:00.920
we're wrapping up. Tell us what you guys are

01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:03.220
excited about on the Facebook page. Sure. Why

01:10:03.220 --> 01:10:05.920
not? Subscribe to the podcast. We have a Facebook

01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:09.399
page? We have a Facebook page. You're not invited

01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:12.760
to be an administrator. Someday I'll log back

01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:16.239
onto Facebook. We're going to make you a T -Dog

01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:18.159
Facebook page so you can be an administrator.

01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:20.600
That'd be cool. Yeah. And Ryan Reynolds is going

01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:24.579
to be his profile pic. In the Green Lantern.

01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:28.539
In the Green Lantern. Yes. Hopefully Mitchell

01:10:28.539 --> 01:10:30.960
doesn't lose his own challenge this time. I kind

01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:33.520
of like, well, I will say this. My first experience

01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:35.880
watching a bad movie was fun because I could

01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:39.340
really make fun of it. This one was a drag because

01:10:39.340 --> 01:10:41.840
of how boring it was and how... disheartened

01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:43.859
I was from watching it depends on the movie there

01:10:43.859 --> 01:10:47.260
are those bad movies that are enjoyable to watch

01:10:47.260 --> 01:10:49.600
and then you have the ones that you just want

01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:50.619
to walk out of the theater I will throw you a

01:10:50.619 --> 01:10:53.840
bone you do not give the challenges that give

01:10:53.840 --> 01:10:56.460
you the advantage which I like because I do the

01:10:56.460 --> 01:10:58.939
same thing I'm like let's just do it okay Andre

01:10:58.939 --> 01:11:01.840
is the only one who gives himself the advantage

01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:05.000
which is smart like frankly this is why the loser

01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:06.979
chooses a challenge I'm not going to shit on

01:11:06.979 --> 01:11:09.279
Andre for doing it playing the game I wasn't

01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:11.710
either I was just playing the game. I was just

01:11:11.710 --> 01:11:13.409
claiming the fact. Playing the game, man. Alright,

01:11:13.510 --> 01:11:16.390
so that'll do it for me, Mike B. Tank. And Audrey

01:11:16.390 --> 01:11:18.689
Bellinger. Mitchell Clements. T -Dog. And we

01:11:18.689 --> 01:11:22.409
ask you, are you game for a movie? Maybe. No.

01:11:22.689 --> 01:11:24.710
Depends if I'm down. I'm down, yeah. If it's

01:11:24.710 --> 01:11:26.970
Dark Phoenix, no. Oh, well, not that one. But

01:11:26.970 --> 01:11:28.930
Midsommar? Let's go. I'm game.