That sound means it's another Game for a Movie
podcast episode 11. We are well into the double
digits. We're one more into the double digits.
I am your host Mikey Tank. I am joined today
by, we'll go around this way because we'll introduce
our special guest. Hi, I'm Andre Bellinger. I'm
Mitchell Clements. And our special guest tonight?
It's Claire! It's Claire! We'll continue to go
this way around like we normally do, but it's
just kind of, it was better because she's a special
guest. Get the rotating chair in here. Yeah,
we got the rotating chair. Yes, you are. T -Dog's
still a mystery. No one knows. Yeah. Are we going
to play where's T -Dog? No, because we don't
know where T -Dog is. We can play where's T -Dog.
Are we sure that Claire is not T -Dog in disguise?
Still not sure, but pretty confident. Right.
Okay. I would guess no. I have no idea what T
-Dog looks like, so I can't confirm or deny.
T -Dog has definitely shown up as a girl before,
so I feel like Claire being T -Dog is not out
of the question. It could be. It's part of the
mystery. Yeah, that's true. You know what's not
a mystery? She's too nice. You know what is not
a mystery? What we're drinking tonight. Oh, yeah.
Let's chill. I got it. Don't worry. Okay. Oh,
we've got Thomas Hooker, no filter IPA. Yes,
Mitchell and I are both drinking some of that.
We've got the Corona Refrescas. Yeah, I'm drinking
the coconut lime one. Surprisingly good. Better
than expected. Probably would kill me. Yeah,
would kill you, but pretty good. Yeah, for those
of you that don't know, I'm allergic to coconut.
He's going to die probably. Probably going to
die. And I am drinking a Shebin John beer. It's
like John Deere, but John Deere. It's a pun.
That's what you did there. Wow. Yeah, it's tall
boy, nice and smooth. Mm -hmm. Nice cold one.
Nice cold one. Nice cold one. Yee. Yee. Yee.
All right, guys. So we have all, well, some of
us have seen a movie. I've seen things. Way to
call out our special guest. I'm going to call
out our special guest because she's seen a movie.
She just can't figure out what she's going to
talk about. I've seen lots of movies, but I just.
You know, I'm a decisive kid. You know what?
Let her be comfortable. She can chime in whenever
she wants. Yeah, back off. Wow. Jeez. Can she
host the podcast? Yeah, right? Wow. Mike is like,
whoa, whoa, whoa. Step too far. Remember our
pre -production meeting where I did everything?
Yes. Oh, it looks like you're losing ground in
this hosting thing. Claire just barked you off
your little perch there. We can have a co -host.
What's new? Oh, what's new, she says. Oh, wow.
You want to start this right here, right now?
Why not? Can this be a couples therapy podcast?
Oh my, yeah, let's talk it out. Alright, so we're
going to jump into movies. Hard pivot. Hard,
hard pivot. We're going to jump and talk about
some movies. Yes. I guess I will start. Go for
it. We'll go around this way and end with Andre,
who did not lose but still saw a bad movie. I
did. Of my own volition. Of your own volition,
yes. Dang T -Dog. Because I'm a broken person.
Anyways. Yeah, we went bowling this week. We
did. We did. And T -Dog lost. Lost hard. Yeah,
he lost, by the way, and there's no debate. There
is no debate that T -Dog lost. But he finds a
way to debate it. He finds a way. Well, it took
a whole game in before he realized, oh, this
is for... This is for the podcast? Oh, okay.
He started doing that once he understood how
far behind he was. Right, right, right. This
was like half of the game and he's just like,
yeah, so next game, right? No, we said before
the game, first game counts. Everybody's coming
in cold. We're all just throwing bowling balls.
And not to call out Homeboy, but I think there
was like three frames in a row where he scored
zero. And that is a terrible way to start any
bowling game. No, definitely. It doesn't matter.
I give T -Dog's bowling skills a one and a half
stars. Oh, you're giving him stars? Wow. I was
going to get half a pin. Half a pin. Okay, great.
Half a pin. He showed up. Yeah, he showed up.
He showed up. It's hard. It's really hard to
show up for a bowl. And you had the split. Yeah.
That's him. The 7 -10 split. I just love the
fact that we're, like, shitting on him. And he's
not going to hear it. He's not. No, T -Dog is
a subscriber but not a listener. Yes. The rest
of us listen, right? I do. Yes, I do, yeah. I
kind of skip over my part. Dude, I'm so narcissistic.
I love hearing myself talk, so I just listen
to it. I listen to you guys all the time. I listen,
I listen like three times because I have to edit
it once and make sure that I didn't make a mistake
and then, yeah. It's all good. Yeah, but, alright,
we'll jump into some actual movies. Also, a point
was brought up because I'm going to talk about
Spider -Man Far From Home. We're going to rank
our favorite... Live action Spider -Man. So Into
the Spider -Verse is not part of this. Into the
Spider -Verse is not. It's its own thing. It
would have been on top for me. That would have
been number one for me. I think it would have
been number one for me too. And I think that's
why we ruled it out. It's its own thing. Everybody
speaks very highly of it. So we are going to
talk about Spider -Man Far From Home first. Has
everybody seen it that wants to see it? Yes.
Spoilers ahead. We're diving into spoilers. As
always, spoilers ahead. This might have been
my favorite Spider -Man. Live action, at least.
I want to hear why. Because I enjoyed it. What
I will say is, I was in a very good mood for
this, so it may just have hit me in the right
mood. What did you do? Did you go for a workout
before? What did we do? I don't know. For some
reason, though, I was just in an extra good mood.
It was a nice day. It was a beautiful day, guys.
And I think one of the things, too, is Mysterio
is one of my favorite bad guys, and I think for
the most part, they nailed it. Oh, yeah, I would
100 % agree. The only thing I had a problem with
is the long monologue in the middle of the movie
where he's like... The exposition dump? Yeah,
the exposition dump where he's just like, yeah,
he called my machine, fart. Barf. Barf, sorry.
I kind of liked how they leaned into that a little
bit because it was so blatantly expositional.
It was so... Tony Csikszentmihalyi worked for
it, but you could tell he was chewing it in.
Yeah. I mean, it's fine and everything like that,
but it dragged a little too long. That was the
only part where I was sitting there like, okay,
come on. Let's get this rolling. I understand.
You were duped by Tony Stark. Okay. I get your
motivation. And that's what I like about these
Spider -Man movies in the MCU. All of the villains
so far have felt reasonable reasons why they
are villains. Vulture was very well done in Homecoming.
Mysterio is very well done in Far From Home.
The villains in these movies are what I think
is best about these movies so far. And what I
like a lot, because they're obviously double
downing on the relationship between Iron Man
and Spider -Man in these films, and the villains
are all products of consequences from Iron Man's
actions. And they make that direct thing, so
it challenges Peter. you know, maybe on a subconscious
level to confront, okay, my mentor and now my
fallen legend idol person. It was not the most
perfect person, you know? Yeah, definitely. And
that's exactly it. And this movie dealt with
a lot of... I've got to take over from my mentor
now. Like, I'm not ready for it. That kind of
stuff. Coming of age almost. Well, didn't they
kind of talk about it? Didn't Happy kind of talk
about it towards the end? About how, you know.
In case you missed it, they definitely told you
at the end. Yeah, like Iron Man is not, he was
not perfect. Right, exactly. Tony Stark is not
perfect. They hit on that for sure. And can we
just talk about Happy, the last two MCU movies?
Dude. I love Happy. He's had such a small role
in both of them. Like, he's still a part, but
he's a smaller role. Yeah. And he just has these
moments. that are just like, yeah, he's the comic
relief, but he has these moments that are just
absolutely touching. When he was with Tony Stark's
daughter in Endgame and, like... The hamburger
line. The hamburger. Oh, yeah, it was great.
And I love how they're playing with these established
Marvel characters. Like, I like the fact that,
like, Aunt May and Happy are, like, sort of dating
slash seeing each other slash whatever. Yeah,
that is pretty funny. It's pretty funny, exactly.
Yeah, I don't know. I like when they have fun
with the characters. Right. And I love how when
Happy's not on screen, he's out directing Lion
King and... struggle book. Casually. Casually
on the side. He fits perfectly because he can
do what he wants to do and then also be in movies.
It's fantastic. But yeah, that's definitely part
of the reason why I love this movie and Mysterio
was so well done. Jake Gyllenhaal, I like him
as an actor. I won't say love because I've seen
him in some real stinkers too, but there are
some things. It's been a while since he's been
out. I will say that a lot of stinkers that he's
in isn't because of him. Yeah. And it's not.
Yeah, yeah. Like, and one of the things I will
say, he nailed the role in Nightcrawler, for
example. Yes. But I hated that movie because
it just made me feel so sleazy and, like, gross
at the end of it. Mission accomplished. Exactly.
And that's exactly what they were shooting for.
But it's not because of him. He... Played the
part perfectly. Yeah. No, like, well, I think
I would say he kind of channeled that energy
a little bit. He plays the neurotic, like, you
know, character really, really well. And I really
liked seeing that from him, especially when he
was interacting with his, I don't know what to
call him, his cohorts, his cast, I guess, you
know, his team. So, yeah. And let's get to it.
Another reason why this movie was great for me,
the mid -credits scene. Oh, my gosh. That was
so... So there are two post -credit scenes. I'm
talking about the first one. The second one was
alright. That's like greater implications for
the wider universe. It affects the universe,
that kind of stuff. Wait, can we go over the
second? I remember the first one, but what was
the second one? The second one was basically
we learned that What are they? Skrull? The Skrull.
Oh, right, right, right, right, right. The Skrull
versus Samuel L. Jackson. Nick Fury. Nick Fury
and Maria Hill, which is why they were both super
dumb. Yeah, okay. Yes, I forgot. That's right.
And it actually kind of works now that you look
back. Sure. Because you're just kind of like,
oh, yeah, that makes sense now. A lot of this
movie works in retrospect, which I want to tap
on as well. Yeah, exactly. Like, once you go
back, it's kind of when you're watching it, you're
just like, all right, why is... Why is Nick Fury
so gullible? Why is he buying this stuff? Yeah,
exactly. Yeah. And so that's part of it, too.
But I wanted to get back to the mid -credit one.
Oh, yeah. J. Jonah Jameson is back. Yes, J .K.
Simmons. As J .K. And couldn't see anybody better,
so they just said, we're going to go back with
it. Yeah, I love the fact that they, yeah, like,
I was, because I was of the mind that I didn't
want J. Jonah Jameson in the MCU because I didn't
want to have to deal with the recast, right?
Because he's such, yeah. But they, and they also
really took a lot, not, I mean, I don't know,
I'm not going to say, like, they copied from
the game or whatever, but, like, He has a very
similar role that he does from the PS4 game,
where J. John Jameson's now part of, like, a
conspiracy podcaster. Infowars kind of thing.
Infowars -esque, Alex Jones -esque figure now,
which really fits, I think. Did J .K. do the
voice in the game, too? No. It's a different
guy. He almost nailed it, but he wasn't... Yeah,
you could definitely tell he was going for that
voice. Yeah. But, yeah, that whole thing, plus
the fact that Spider -Man's identity is revealed,
like, it was... To the world. I feel like we
always run into a story with, like, I feel like
there's a ton of Spider -Man stories in the comic
books where he has to deal with when the city
of New York is against him or whatever, you know,
so I'm excited to see that in film. And, like,
what John Watts, the director, has said is that
he is shooting to add Kraven the Hunter. which
I think is a perfect fit for it because now he
knows Peter Parker and Spider -Man he knows to
follow both of them kind of thing if he's going
to somehow lead a normal life which he probably
won't but it's just one of those things where
Kraven the Hunter could be very well done again
like another bad guy that's kind of like off
the beaten path a little bit. Definitely, yeah.
A little lesser known, lesser, like, less flashy.
Exactly. Like, he's, what his job is, he's a
hunter. Yeah. You know? I'll say this, all these
villains, even though we're talking Sinister
Six level guys with Vulture, and then Kraven
as well later on in a different version, but
Mysterio's kind of like a B plus level villain.
Definitely. You know? And the fact that he worked
so well, Vulture worked very well for the last
one. These are very goofy villains that they've
made kind of work. Well, they've resisted the
temptation just to go back to the one and be
like, oh, let's bring Green Goblin back. Doc
Ock. Yeah, exactly. And I still think Doc Ock
can be brought in, especially if they go Sinister
Six route. If they go Sinister Six route, they
can definitely bring these guys in. Especially
because we've seen Electro, we've seen Scorpion.
All these guys exist from the first movie. It's
almost kind of the opposite. Almost like the
opposite approach that The Amazing Spider -Man
2 did, I should say. Because The Amazing Spider
-Man 2 was immediately like, all right, we're
bringing in Rhino, we're bringing in Electro,
and we're bringing in the Hobgoblin bag. All
three at once. These ones all kind of exist already
where you don't have to do much of an origin
for them. And then you can add one character.
For my Sinister Six movie that I imagine, Rhino's
causing trouble, he gets picked up right away,
and then they all meet in jail and then decide
to break out together, get revenge on Spider
-Man together. You know, that kind of stuff.
But I will give it 4 .5 web shooters out of 5.
Oh, okay. All right. And I think that's my highest
ranking so far. That is your... Wow. That's...
I really like it. I told you guys. Mine was blown
walking out of the theater. Yeah. I will say
this, the less you know about who Mysterio is,
which I think Claire, you're probably in that
camp. Oh yeah, I know nothing. So did you see
the heel turn coming? So Mike kind of had given
me a heads up because I was like, what? I don't
know who is this Mysterio. He's known for...
you know, creating these illusions. Yeah, he's
bad. Yeah. Obviously, he's a villain. Don't trust
this fishbowl. Right, don't trust him, basically
is what he said. Oh, yeah, I gotcha. And all
the previews, you know, shows him as some, like,
oh, he's a great super, or whatever he is. He's
Quentin Beck. So, like, the whole movie, I was,
like, waiting for the ball to drop, and then
when it dropped, I was like... Oh, I just thought
it was such a good twist. As someone who, like,
doesn't know the comics and, like, doesn't know
any of that, I thought it was just such a good
twist. And then when it happened, I was like,
like, the whole bar scene, I was like, that fucker.
Yeah, right. Bar scene was really well done.
It was really good. It was, because I was so
confused for a second. Yeah, that was good. Because
you, exactly right on, like, you knew it was
going to drop, you didn't know when. Sure. But
how it did, it really, like, caught me off guard.
Like, for a split second, I was like, what? the
hell is happening? And then I was like, oh. Yeah.
With me, I was watching it. These guys are in
full uniform still outside of their head stuff.
And I'm like, how are they not really like standing
out to any of the other people in the bar? Like
no one's looking at them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm like, this is so fucking weird. Like
how did they overlook that? No, that's a good
point. You're right. Then the reveal happens
and I'm like, oh, okay. This is like all mapped
out. A lot of the lines that Mysterio was saying,
especially early in the movie, I thought, oh
my god, this is like a fucking cheese fest. Yeah,
definitely. You don't want any part of this,
which is in the trailer and all that. It was
all a character. These were written lines for
him to say. I love that they got meta with it,
where he came up with this ridiculous story of
being from the multiverse, because people will
eat up anything at this point. Damn, dude. I
feel attacked. Yeah, me too. Multiverse blip
-like. Yeah, right. He's like the Urtsu. 616.
Can someone explain something to me about the
blip? Okay, so... The event is the blip. Yep,
so all the kids, right, they were basically evaporated
or whatever you want to call it, like nanos,
and then they came back. That one kid who is
older now, so he did not... He did not get blipped.
He did not get blipped. He just grew up. You
mean the one who had a crush on... On MJ. On
MJ, yep. So why is he still in the class with
them? That was my question. What they said was
basically the school shut down because they didn't
know what happened. That doesn't make sense.
For five years it shut down? He was in the same
class as them before the blip and then stayed
in the same class? That character was in the
previous movie. He was in Homecoming. That's
the idea anyway. That was the only thing that
confused me. There's two explanations that I've
seen around because they didn't really explain
it. It was that, and then the other explanation
was they now go to a charter school that just
has, he's not in the same grade as them, it's
just this whole school -wide trip. that had all
these people together. And both really don't...
I don't get that. I was confused about that.
I can forgive the movie for that because it was
a good gag of like, oh man, suddenly this guy's
a hunk. Yeah, it's funny. It's a nitpick, if
anything. And that's exactly it. It's a nitpick.
It's one of those things where it just kind of...
I don't even think the writers believed it. It
was just more so, let's just gloss over this
and make it a joke. I gotta say, pivoting a little
bit, I gotta give props to at least the first
Mysterio illusion scene. I thought the montage
of that. I think that was the best directed scene
in the movie. That was the highlight of the film.
Oh yeah, it was beautiful. It was completely
disorienting. It does everything that you want
it to do. Exactly. That's what I was looking
for out of a Mysterio fight. And you didn't know
he was going to get hit by a train then. yeah
right and plus the zombie Iron Man with like
half skeleton face half yeah and what I love
the most about this villain in particular the
reinterpretation where the original Mysterio
in the comics he was working in Hollywood as
a special effects person and this is like literal
smoke and mirrors kind of guy yeah and in a lot
of ways this reinterpretation of the character
it's still a quote unquote filmmaker kind of
role he's almost a director how he's bossing
people around yeah yeah yeah I still need the
cape. Yes. Make this louder. Do this, this. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Make this more dangerous. Yeah. Exactly.
Like, he understands it's more theatrics than
anything else. Right. And I thought Jake Gyllenhaal
just sunk his teeth into that. Oh, yeah, he did.
He really was. Dude, it's been, it's a trip watching,
you watch, like, there's, like, I think Vanity
Fair did an interview with him or something,
where there's, like, basically, like, breaking
down the scenes in the trailer, and, like, you
can totally tell, like, the part where he's just
bullshitting the part, like, because there's
still ostensibly, pretending he's a hero, right?
Yeah. So, like, he just explains, like, yeah,
Mysterio's this guy from this other dimension,
this other version of Earth, and you can just
kind of tell, like, he hams it up a little bit.
Yeah. And it's hilarious to watch. All right,
so we'll go, all right, let's give our rankings
for it. Okay. Sure. So how many, okay, so what
do we have? Are we doing the Tobii requires?
Spider -Man 1 through 3. Oh, we're ranking our
Spider -Man. Oh, okay, got it. Sam Raimi 1. Sam
Raimi 1. Amazing 1 and 2. Yeah. Homecoming and
Far From Home. Solo, Spider -Man films, Civil
War. Civil War, I'm not kidding. Okay, got it.
I'm going Amazing Spider -Man 2, 7. Amazing Spider
-Man 1, 6. And that's tight with Spider -Man
3. Spider -Man 1. So what number is that? 4?
Spider -Man 2 Homecoming Far From Home. I like
these new ones a lot. You love the MCU. I like
these new ones a lot. Respect. My turn? Bottom
is definitely Amazing Spider -Man 2. That movie
made me sad. I struggle because Amazing Spider
-Man 1 I think is a better movie than Spider
-Man 3. It's a more... cohesive thing. I feel
like it has better things going on, but I have
more fun with Spider -Man 3. So I'm going to
go Amazing 2, then Amazing 1, then Spider -Man
3, Personal Enjoyment. Those are same as you,
very close. Then I'm going to go Spider -Man
1, Spider -Man Far From Home, Homecoming, and
then 2. Okay. There you go. My bottom two are
The Amazing Spider -Men. Yes, right. You can
put those in whatever order you want. But really,
number two is definitely the worst. God, they
had... They were going for the Gwen Stacy storyline.
That's rough. Right, no. It's the same thing
with the Dark Phoenix storyline. They're like,
guys, you can't botch it. Well, you can, clearly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clearly. And you need to do
something different than just, oh, she's the
girl that dies. You know? Right. Yeah, there's
got to be different stakes. I love how they reimagined
MJ in the MCU, by the way. Same, same, same.
Anyway. Those two. And then, what do we got now?
So we got the MCU movies and then the Raimi ones,
right? Raimi ones, yeah. I'm gonna go Spider
-Man 3, obviously. Yep. I will go Far From Home,
number four. I will go Homecoming, number three.
Spider -Man 1, number 2. Wow. And then Spider
-Man 2, number 1. Wow, okay. I really like the
Raimi ones. I love the Raimi ones because I think
comic book movies. Yes. Those are comic book
movies. Those are comic book movies, yeah. Very
campy. I think Sam Raimi, for a lot of, obviously,
the filmmakers who followed him, kind of defined
how to make these successful. Sure. And especially
for the Spider -Man character, how to play with
the dynamic with him and villains. Yeah. And
I think those two movies do a really good job,
especially number 2. Number two was really good.
He was fantastic. The train scene was just so
well done. They weren't afraid to be campy. Number
three, they went off the rails. But numbers one
and two, they definitely had a better tone when
it came to that. So I enjoyed those. I don't
really have an opinion. I can't remember ever
watching the Amazing Spider -Man movies. That
pretty much says all you need to say, though.
It's been so long since I've seen the regular
Spider -Man movies that I don't remember. Except
for that stupid upside -down kiss. The upside
-down kiss doesn't do anything for you? That's
dumb? You can't see my eyes rolling to the back
of my head, but they're there. It is cheesy.
I don't know. I'm impartial to the MCU. Dude,
I really like the MCU. Honestly, I'm just pleased
as peaches with how they've handled Spider -Man
and the MCU. And they do such a great job of
obviously rewarding people who are MCU fans,
but I feel like if you're a casual Spider -Man
fan and don't have time to watch 18 other movies,
you are more than on pace of like, okay, here's
what's going on. They established the Tony Stark
thing directly in the first one. And then you
don't even need to see Civil War to really get
it. Right. So anyway, I really enjoyed how they
did that. Yeah. They have such a great way of
incorporating the entire universe. Well, and
I think that's why I like them, because I understand
them. Yeah. Because I'm not a comic book person.
Sure. Like, I'm not. So all the MCU ones, I understand
what's happening, and they incorporate, I don't
know. Did we talk about Ned at all? We did not
talk about Ned. Come on! Ugh. He steals so many
scenes. He's so good. I love Ned. I love Ned.
I had a harder time with Ned in this one. Well,
just because you didn't like his whole subplot
with the relationship. They just didn't have
anything for him to do. What are you talking
about? He had a relationship. That's it. Whoa.
That was his whole plot, though. That's how you
interpreted that? He was the comic relief. Yeah,
no, definitely. He's always been the comic relief,
but he had more to do in the first one. You didn't
have a friend in high school that jumped into
a relationship and was like, I'm a man now, and
this is who I am. Baby, I love you. Let me do
this for you. Exactly, like texting each other
while they're sitting next to each other. I love
the moments where Spider -Man is out of webbing.
Yes. Oh, yeah. So having that not being like...
Some sidekick or whatever didn't bother him.
You know what I mean? Sure, yeah, that's fair.
Is that what you mean? You wanted him to be more
involved? No, no, no. I'm saying this as I didn't
mind what Ned was doing. It was just I felt like
he was just kind of almost written off the other
way. Where it was just like, now we don't have
to explain why Ned's not getting in the way of
things. He's obsessed with this girl now. And
I get that, but at the same time, I liked when
he was the man in the chair. Well, I'll say this.
How many times was he the man in the chair in
Homecoming? Twice, at least. So he was at the
end, right? But at the end of the day, it's Spider
-Man fighting Vulture on an airplane. You know
what I mean? And then it's Spider -Man saving
a boat from spinning in half. But I'm not saying
that. He's not like an Oracle kind of... He's
not calling Peter on his cell phone to like,
you gotta push through that rubble, Peter! You
know, like it's... And that's not what I'm looking
for. Maybe I want that. With that line reading?
Yes. You gotta punch with that rubble, Peter!
Peter! The rubble's like, got this! We've talked
way too much about Spider -Man. Come on. I love
Spider -Man. I do too. We can talk all night
about Spider -Man. The kids are great. Love it.
Alright, we're gonna go to the next one? Oh yeah.
So it's me, right? So it's you, buddy. Yep, so
I watched... what I like to introduce to people
as Disney's first rated art movie in a very long
time. And it's a technicality because they inherited
this from Fox. And that is Stuber! Stuber! So
that is starring my main man Drax the Destroyer.
David Tisda. That's his real name. Well, who
knows at this point, right? It's still Dave Bautista.
Okay, okay. That's your opinion. I like to refer
to him more as the guy from Hotel Artemis. Oh,
he was in Hotel Artemis. Yes, he was. That's
right. It was a movie. That was a very violent
movie. It was a very violent movie. I wanted
to see that, and I just never did. I wanted it
to be better than it was. And it wasn't bad.
Did they have a big role in that? Is he like
a hitman? Okay, we're going to talk about Hotel
Artemis. We could push off Stuber Talk. Yeah,
let's talk about Hotel Artemis. Okay, so basically
the whole idea of Hotel Artemis is these assassins
go to this hotel where they get stitched up.
It's a hospital. It's three people at a time.
They don't take any more. This is that Jodie
Foster film. Yes. So she is the... main doctor,
and Dave Bautista is the nurse. Oh! Yeah, nurses
unite! But it's more so played for laughs than
anything. Like, yes, he is a male nurse that
is actually pretty awesome at points, but for
the most part, it is definitely played up like,
oh, look at this ridiculously big guy. He's a
nurse. Hey, don't hate on male nurses. I'm not.
That's what I'm saying, though. I know, I know.
I'm just saying in general. Let me tell you right
now, nurses are amazing. Yeah, preach. I am marrying
one, and she is the best thing in my life. That's
right. Who's he referring to? I don't understand
what's going on here. You guys are missing the
joke yet. I'm following. Anyways. But basically,
he doesn't get a lot of action sequences. He
gets a lot more like, oh, the power's out. You
gotta go run and fix the power. Oh, you gotta
go... But does he have room to be funny? No.
That's rough. He has a little bit of stuff. Yeah.
but not an amazing amount of it. And so, like,
Hotel Artemis was very forgettable. It was fine,
but it was, as we said last week about Dark Phoenix,
it could be a lot better. The problem more so
was it was just boring, which is a sin on itself.
Oh, absolutely. I... like exactly Dark Phoenix
if it was bad it probably would have had a higher
ranking in my mind yeah more because it was boring
to me like it was so unremarkable and that's
exactly what this movie is it's sitting at a
6 .1 out of 10 on IMDB middle of the road like
and we're talking still Hotel Artemis Okay, good,
because Stuber has the exact same rating on IMDb.
6 .1 out of 10. So I guess that's a segue. We
got Batista in the starring world. Stuber is
actually Kumail Nanjiani. And Stuber is actually
not a good nickname. It's because he is an Uber
driver. but his name is Stuber as well. Oh, so
Stuber. I was mad at that title. So Stuber. Yeah,
I mean, it's definitely like, we need to name
this movie something, so here's the main character,
I suppose. But anyway, it's about, basically,
have you guys ever seen the movie Collateral?
The Michael Mann movie with Jamie Foxx and Tom
Cruise. That is the plot, essentially, of a guy...
commandeering a taxi driver or in this case an
Uber driver to go around LA and to solve a mystery
or to get after someone that they're hunting.
And that's what Dave Bautista is doing with Camille
and this is just the comedic version of that
set in broad daylight instead of in the middle
of the night. Just like in Collateral. And a
lot less serious and a lot less good. Collateral
was good. Collateral was good. I really liked
it. So the... Best parts of the movie, in my
opinion, were Kumail and Batista playing off
each other. These are two very, very funny actors
who have very different ways of going about comedy.
Batista is obviously very physical. His line
delivery is also sneaky good. And he's just a
big goof when he has to be. But he also can be
very threatening because of how big he is. And
then Kumail is more witty. He's more facial expression
and all that different stuff. And I thought that
balance was fine in a lot of different scenes.
The best parts in the movie. I would love to
see a movie with them together where they're
just kind of like, most of their lines are just
ad -libbed. Because I think actually they could
pull that off. Like, you have the plot. I want
a well -done plot. But most of their interaction
is like... a little more ad -libby. Yeah. I think
the best scenes, I guess, well, I'm not sure
how much of this movie was ad -libbed at all,
but when they're interacting directly at each
other, so they're the only two in the room, the
only two in the scene, that's what I thought
was best. They have this whole big, you know,
sometimes bros just gotta find it out, you know?
They find it out in the middle of a sporting
goods store, and... A big plot point is that
Dave Bautista had LASIK surgery at the very beginning
of the film. So he's slowly coming back from
blindness as this movie is going on. I was wondering
why he needed an Uber. Yes, so he needed an Uber
because he couldn't drive his car. and he comedically
drove his car into a pothole, and he called the
Uber. So anyway, that's where this whole thing
starts. Gotcha. I was very confused why he needed
an Uber in the first place. Yeah, so I guess
to briefly go over the plot, Dave Bautista works
for the LAPD. He has been on the tail of this
drug trade that's been going on in Los Angeles,
and it opens with him and his original partner
getting shot and killed, and then he has to go
out and... get his revenge and then also find
the guys who are doing the drug trade. Anyway,
he's blind at the beginning of the movie for
all intents and purposes and then that's when
Kumail comes in. So I have a question looking
at this cast. Yeah. How did Karen Gillan get
in this? So she was the partner at the very beginning
of the movie. Oh, so she dies quickly. So it's
a little Guardians of the Galaxy reunion at the
beginning. And when I saw her, immediately I'm
like, oh, she's gonna die. Because she was not
in any of the promotional material or anything.
That's why I was shocked. She's a big name to
be in this movie. Exactly. I know she's going
to die. Unfortunately, that also sets the tone
for how predictable this movie is. Uh, there
are some good laughs in there. Again, the sporting
goods store scene I thought was great. Yeah.
Um, there's just a lot of good one -liners. Um,
Kumail is trying to, like, his quote -unquote
love interest is a girl who, that, he is opening
a, um, spin, like a, you know, bicycle, what's
it called, spin class. Oh, like spin class, yeah.
A spin class, that's all they do at this gym
is spin class. Is that, uh, uh, Morales, Natalie
Morales or not? Um, no, so she is Dave Bautista's
daughter um i thought they were uh okay nevermind
if you've ever seen glow i don't know the actress's
name uh she plays liberty bell in glow okay uh
that is camille's initial love interest in the
film um yeah so anyway that basically he is getting
blue balled by her Just put it in the friend
zone. And a lot of great lines are coming from
Dave Bautista about him not nutting up and telling
her how he feels. So anyway, it's all these different
little nuggets of things, but it doesn't make
for a good 90 minutes. So as I was saying before
the podcast, this movie overall did not think
it was worth going to the theaters for, but I
think this would have been perfect on Netflix.
This would have been a perfect direct -to -Netflix
release, very casual movie. You'll get a couple
laughs in it. but you can do stuff in the background.
Yeah, that's her. Betty Gilpin. Betty Gilpin.
There you go. So she's great in GLOW. Very limited
role in this. I can't really, you know, comment
on her acting, but she did what she had to do.
I get that. You know what I mean? She's a love
interest. That's what it is. It's rough with
love. And a lot of her scenes are taking place
on Kumail's iPhone because they're FaceTiming
each other because he's constantly driving Batista
around. That's a unique idea. Yeah, it's fine.
I mean, it's just one way. I don't know. Okay.
I mean, it is what it is. It is what it is. My
thing is, I'm not FaceTiming as often as Kumail
and... what's her name? Betty Gilpin. Betty.
We're doing this entire movie. I don't think
I FaceTimed that much in the past two years than
they did in those 90 minutes of the movie. So
anyway, I thought it was like a little bit of
like, oh, we need to get this actress on screen
as opposed to just her voice. Right. So anyway.
As a theater release, I'm going to give Stuber
one and a half stars. Wow. Because Uber. This
is the one time I'll accept stars. One and a
half stars out of five. What if it was Netflix?
Would you give it the same? I'd give it a two.
It goes up to a two. But that's like a high on
average for, you know, direct -to -Netflix movies
in my experience. Sure. Because you saw Triple
Frontier on the podcast. I saw Triple Frontier.
Oh, you did? Yeah, and the prequel Double Frontier
is coming out next year. Is it really? I was
going to be really bad. Double Frontier. I can't
wait until Quadruple Frontier. No, I did not
watch Bird Box, but T -Dog did, right? Yeah,
T -Dog did. T -Dog was lukewarm on it. He was
lukewarm. I did not watch it. I did neither.
Netflix does better with their series and docs
than they do with their movies. I would agree.
Anyway, one and a half. Okay. Alright, Andre?
Alright. So you didn't lose. I didn't lose. But
you still somehow saw a bad movie. Yes, I did.
Okay. It was... Dating life, man. Yeah, it's
rough. We watched Hansel and Gretel Vampire Hunters.
Wait, Vampire Hunters? Oh, wait, I didn't know
it was called Vampire Hunters. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. I thought it was just... No, no, Witch
Hunters. Witch Hunters. Yeah, yeah. I said it
was such confidence, too. Yeah, like you were...
You're telling me, I'm like, did they make a
directed Netflix sequel or something? No, no,
no, no. Who stars in this wonderful movie? This
is Jeremy Renner, and then I don't, I feel bad,
I don't know her. Gemma Arterton. Gemma Arterton.
Wow. You would know her if you saw her. No, no,
no, yeah, right, like I recognize her, but. Peter
Stormare's in this. Yeah, Peter Stormare's in
that, in this movie. What year did this come
out? 2013. 2013, so it's been a minute. It's
been a hot minute, yeah. Sticking with our IMDB
rankings, 6 .1 out of 10. 6 .1? Wow. Yeah. Wow.
I feel like we have to fill out a bingo card.
Yeah, right? Triple 6 .1s? Right. So this is
Jeremy Renner coming one year off of Avengers,
right? 2012, right? Yeah. Yeah, you're right.
Jeez. Oof. Yeah, so this movie. Okay, so. I knew
going into this is going to be a bad movie, and
I was hoping that it would be a fun bad movie.
You know, like, you know, like, you have a good
time with it, you know, like, you can make fun
of it, and, you know, whatever. But, honestly,
I'm struggling to recall what happened in it,
because it kind of just... wasn't anything. Like,
I thought it was going, like, it couldn't decide
if it wanted to be a parody on, like, a fantasy
movie or just a generic, you know, action -adventure
movie, and it kind of falls somewhere in the
middle. It's not particularly fun, and it's not
particularly, like, it's not particularly funny,
and it's not particularly, like, cool either,
you know? So, okay, explain the plot for, excuse
me, for people who have not watched the movie.
Yeah, right. So, the plot is basically, the movie
opens up with the classic, Hansel and Gretel's
story. They basically, like, their parents, like,
shoo them away, basically, to go, like, wander
around the woods. Breadcrumbs. Yeah, follow breadcrumbs,
go to the witch's house. And then where it immediately
deviates is that, like... Gretel gets tortured,
Hansel nuts up, and basically just murders the
shit out of the witch. How old are they? They're
like nine. They're kids. They're young kids.
He brutalizes the witch, shoves her in the fireplace,
and from then on, they swear to become witch
hunters. I guess. That's pretty metal, dude.
Yeah, right. What a great opening. Again, like,
it's like, okay, yeah, sure. And then it shows,
like, a montage. I'm shitting on this thing,
but I'm gonna defend it. Yeah, alright. Yeah,
so, uh, so basically they're established, like,
it just jumps forward to when they're in their,
like, late 20s or however old they're supposed
to be, and they're the world's most renowned
witch hunters, basically. Um, and they have all
these elaborate gadgets and stuff, all these,
like, weird, not steampunk, but, like, Victorian
punk weapons. And, yeah, I don't know. At the
very beginning, they show some fun, like, gun
-cata stuff, which is dumb and cheesy as hell.
Like, there's, like, a brief action sequence
where they're taking down this witch. I'm like,
okay, if it's just this movie, like, I can laugh
at it, and it's fine. But that's, like, the only,
like, fight scene until the very end. So who's
the big bad in this? So the big bad is Dark Phoenix
of old. What's her name? Oh. Famke. Famke Jansen.
That's right. So she's the big bad witch. She's,
like... I don't know. This isn't a mystery. We
know that she's the big bad. Yeah, she's immediately
established. And the main crux is that they're
kidnapping specific children in this village
because... if they get their blood, they'll be
immune to fire, so they can't get burned at the
stake. So that's the main crux of the thing.
So Hansel and Gretel are trying to solve... I'm
sorry, this sounds really stupid. Yeah, I know,
it's really dumb. I haven't seen this since 2013,
and you're reminding me of it. Okay, good. I'm
struggling to remember the details. So basically,
Hansel and Gretel are trying to solve this mystery.
Like, wow, all these children are getting randomly
kidnapped. Like, I wonder why. as they're picking
up breadcrumbs off the ground. It's a really
good snack. Is this whole wheat? We're gluten
-free now. Free breadcrumbs. They're trying to
figure out why are these witches capturing these
children? We've got to figure it out. Yeah, I
don't know. This movie just kind of meanders.
There's this weird romantic subplot with this
other, like Jeremy Renner has this romance with
this other person who's very obviously a witch,
but she keeps it hidden, which is dumb because
they've established that they can sense witches
because Gretel is part witch. Gretel's mom. So,
like, their mom was a witch. She was a Wiccan
or something like that. No, like, their mom was
just a straight -up witch, but one of the good
witches. Like, there's good witches and bad witches.
Well, that's why I thought it was Wiccan, because
she's not full -on witch, but she practices.
No, she's half -witch. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
maybe. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. So she's half -witch,
and apparently only girls can be witches. Like,
so Jeremy Renner doesn't have the witch -sensing
abilities. That is sexist. Yeah, right? Yeah.
Hashtag. Men can be witches, too. Men can be
witches, too. Exactly. So yeah, anyway, so there's
a really forced romantic subplot with this mysterious
lady who is definitely not a witch, but she's
definitely a witch. Yeah, and then they also
established this thing where Jeremy Renner, like,
for whatever reason, has to take this giant,
cartoonishly large, like, like, like, insulin
shot, almost, you know, like... Yeah, you're
saying he was steampunked, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was, like, a steampunk, like, steampunk vein,
like, literally, like, I'm gesturing, it's, like,
three times as big as his bottle of beer. Yeah.
Like, he's, like, oh, like, he's, like, talking
to this, this, this good witch lady, but they
don't know is a witch. That's really weird, because
that's not a bottle. What do you mean? It's three
times that bottle of beer. Whatever. It's a can.
Whatever. You know what I mean. It's a tall boy.
You're picking up what I'm putting down. It's
a tall boy. Anyways. I'm painting a picture for
the audience. Uh -huh, uh -huh. So he's like,
he sidelines the conversation. He's like, oh,
sorry. Ugh, like doubles down. He's like, I have
to take, like his alarm clock goes off. He's
like, oh, shit. And he rubbages around and injects
the thing into his arms. Like, if I don't do
this when this alarm goes off, I'll die. And
they never explain why that happens. Like, why
that's a thing. That's the best part of the movie.
Yeah. And then the best part is it never comes
up ever again. Until the very, very end. Like,
we were watching, and we were like, you know,
they haven't touched on the insulin thing, have
they? And then literally at the final climax,
like, he's struggling. Sorry to jump around for
spoilers, but he's struggling against Dark Phoenix,
and she's about to go in for the kill. And he's
like, oh, and struggling, like, oh, no, the alarm
clock goes off. And he's like, no! And then Gretel
has to kick the insulin shot over to Jeremy Renner
so he can inject it. Yeah. But they never explain
why. No, yeah. I mean, they did have missed it,
I guess, but yeah. Oh, okay. Does it have to
do with when there were children? Maybe, like,
he got injured or something, like, when he was
at the witch's... Like, been by a witch or something?
No, it wasn't been by... Like, it's just... Something
weird. Yeah, you know? That's great. I like that
plot point. Yeah, you do. That's my favorite.
It just sounds so over the top. I can still see
Jeremy Renner just be like, fuck it, I'm bought
in. Yeah, right. Well, it'd be fun if they brought
it up again at some point, you know? It's just
the fact that it's an alarm clock that's like,
oh no, I have literally 30 seconds to take this.
They couldn't have done it maybe like, oh, give
yourself an hour leeway or something like that.
Whatever, it's fine. That's so lazy. I love it.
Yeah, no. It's like, how do we raise the stakes
here? Yeah. Okay, so he has this gigantic thing.
They need to stick in his arm. Let's establish
that early, but never bring it up again. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Exactly. Oh, nice. And all of the...
I will say, this movie has a very weird fetish
with exploding heads. Like, everybody's heads
just explode like... Don't we all? Yeah. Why
not? That's half a Kingsman, too. No, yeah, but
we... Stu had a couple of those. Yeah? Yeah.
But Kingsman is fun, though. Like, Kingsman,
you have good choreography. Like, that church
scene. But you just want, well, yeah, the church
scene's fine. I'm talking about the end where
the heads just blow off. Oh, yeah. But at least,
like, that's, like, a plot point because, like,
again, it's cheesy and over the top. Well, okay.
That's what Kingsman is. Kingsman is that kind
of cheese done right because they establish that
they have the ear, like, the thing in their,
planted in their, like, in their heads, right?
Whereas this one, it's just more like, oh, man,
every single, like, this rock happens to fall
on this person's head. Or, oh man, this person
happened to get kicked in the face. It's just...
There's no rhyme or reason to it. It's like,
oh, man, that's like the 17th head I've seen
just exploded to jelly. Like, it's, all right.
I don't know. Sick, dude. So you're going to
give it exploding heads as well? Yeah, wow. Claire,
you called me out. That was good. I'm sorry to
hear it, you guys. I mean, you're welcome. You
started off slow. She cuts to the bullshit, but
I think you turned me around. I think this is
like a five -star movie. This is a five -star
movie. Yeah, I'm just struggling to come up with
other stuff. You don't have to. Yeah, no, I guess.
Give a ranking. All right. I'm going to give
this like a... Ooh. I'm going to give this...
All right. So on an actual movie, I'm going to
give it two rankings, right? Okay. So on like
a normal movie scale, average movie, I'm going
to give it like a 1 .25. Exploding heads out
of five. Sorry to ruin your moment. It's all
right. No, no, no. Because the second one, I'm
going to rank it on the bad movie scale where,
you know, bad movies can be enjoyable. The room
is a five out of five for me on a bad movie.
For me personally, right? Then Citizen Kane is
a zero. Then Citizen Kane is a zero. On a bad
movie scale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm going to
give Hansel and Gretel, Witch Hunters, a two.
random, unexplained insulin shots out of five.
Which is exactly how many times... That's why
I'm upset with it, right? Because I want it to
be higher. I was going to be like, this is going
to be fun to make fun of. Should we introduce
that as, like, for the bad movies? Like, at a
separate scale? Because Dark Phoenix would have
been, like, a solid half. I think, yeah, so exactly.
So it would have been a half for both? That's
how bad it is. On one end we have the room, on
the other hand we have Dark Phoenix for bad movies.
Yeah, I like that. I like that a lot. That's
fair. Because I'm thinking, like, of the bad
movies I saw, like, Leo the Lion might actually,
on the bad movie scale, get, like, a four. Oh,
okay. Wow! Because it's just so dumb. It's so
ridiculously amazing. You can laugh at it. Me
and Audrey were laughing at the vegetarian Tom.
Yeah, no, we watched that. Oh, yeah. You're laughing
at how bad it is. But, like, Yoga Hosers, for
example, thinks it's funnier than it is, and
it still gets the zero. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And
you know what the worst fucking part is? Tell
me, Audrey. There's no special features on that
goddamn DVD, all right? Oh, wow. For Hansel and
Gretel? Hansel and Gretel? You watched the DVD
of Hansel and Gretel? Yeah, back up. You watched
this on an actual DVD? Yeah, we had a physical
disc. Yeah. Who had it? You? Yeah. You own it?
No, we preached it from the library. Oh. What?
No. You went, that's effort. That is effort.
You spent no money, but still spent a little
money? Yes. You spent some money on gas. Yeah,
you spent like the exact. Wait, you probably
walked to the library. I know where you are.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know where you are. It doesn't
matter. That was energy spent. That is energy
spent. And time. I'm ready to defend this movie
because I don't think it's a good movie, but
I think it's a decent movie. I don't have it
as a bad movie. Let's go to that. Defend this
movie, Mike. I really want you to. I pulled up
reviews here, and I think I agree with the Entertainment
Weekly one here. It's a 42 out of 100. And it
says... That's not a good movie. No, no, no.
It's not a good movie, but there's much worse.
Like, their Metascore is 23. Yeah. You know,
so a lot more people thought it was worse than
this. Yeah. Entertainment Weekly said, an intermittently
fun, but over -excited and predictable mismatch.
There you go. Mismatch, you definitely nailed
that. And so I will say I agree with that and
the fact that it did get overly excited. It tried
to do something that was like... Sounds like
me in the bedroom. Ugh. Ugh. Wow. It was right
there, guys. It was right there at the table.
I really hope you're a little bit more well put
together than us. I know this is my equipment,
but can I walk out? I can walk out. Bye, Claire.
And that was the end of Claire. We're taking
part in this. Actually, no, they're far worse.
So I just thought it was fun. The action sequences
are not meant to be taken seriously. No, no,
no, no, no. Yeah, do not mistake me for taking
any part of it seriously. Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
And so it's just, it's a fun movie because it's
so goofy and ridiculous and it doesn't mean to
be that way. It's also ridiculous because Jeremy
Renner takes it way too seriously. Which I love.
He does. Yeah, he does. He does, yeah. And that
is exactly why I think this movie is, it goes
to decent. Not bad. I'm not saying it's a good
movie by any means. Any stretch of the imagination.
It's not a good movie. It's just a decent movie.
Like, I would watch it again, not tomorrow, but
in a week. Wow, really? Would it surprise you
guys to know that Jeremy Renner in his spare
time flips houses? Really? He also has a band.
He has music. Yeah. See, he flips houses and
plays live music. And wasn't he a makeup artist
too? Or did I make that up? I don't know about
that. I think you're right. I wouldn't doubt
it. I wouldn't doubt it. Jeremy Renner's such
a fascinating human being. He's a Renaissance
man. He's a Renaissance man. I love Jeremy Renner.
No, Jeremy Renner's great. When he takes things
seriously, it's just like, you just want to watch.
Like, Tag was a miserable movie except for Jeremy
Renner. Yeah. He broke his arms literally shooting
that movie. Yeah, he went all out for a movie
about people tagging each other. Yes. Ready?
Jeremy Renner is best known for his macho roles
in Hurt Locker and The Town. Really? Wait, what
do you mean really? How do you say really to
that? I didn't know that. He was nominated for
Hurt Locker. I don't know these things! Back
off! Hurt Locker's great and The Town's pretty
good. Well, I've seen The Town, so that I know.
Okay, I'm not the movie guru here, so I don't
partake. Blah, blah, blah. Fans might be surprised
to know that the actor used to be a makeup artist.
Wow. He revealed his past with blush, mascara,
and eyeliner. That's a great sentence. Wow. Isn't
that always why, like, in his interviews, too,
he's always wearing makeup? He always is wearing,
like, lipstick or lip gloss or something. It
drives me crazy. Oh, now you're not going to
unsee it. Oh, wow. Now you're not going to unsee
it. Yeah, go look. So he has, like... on his
lips or just yeah so like then we're not talking
about like when he's going on Jimmy Kimmel or
something like that no when they're like he's
like sitting with the other actors and they're
getting like interviewed about the movie okay
like when he's doing a an article for WatchMojo
or something like that like a little video shout
out to WatchMojo yeah shout out to WatchMojo
what's wrong with WatchMojo there's nothing wrong
with WatchMojo yeah okay good look at Jeremy
Renner yeah that's awesome yeah alright so we're
gonna I love Jeremy Renner well this popped up
Google Jeremy Whoa! What is that? Keep that photo.
He looks like Prince in that. Keep that photo.
That needs to go somewhere. What you're missing
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I was going to say the Taika Waititi news with
Thor 4. Oh, perfect. Go ahead, yes. Go balls
deep in that. Dude. Because I love it. Thor 4.
Balls deep? Balls deep. Balls deep. Thor 4, I
am ready for Taika Waititi to direct more Thor
4. Yes. At the same time, it is kind of a bummer
that they put his Akira project on hold because
of it. I feel like that movie's never going to
come out. It's still a passion project. Yes.
No, no, no. That's why I was excited for it is
that I had confidence that he would bring his
own spin on it and it would at least be good.
But that's what I'm saying is it still has a
good chance to get made eventually. Okay. Sure.
Yes. I think it absolutely will. Yeah. It absolutely
will. Let's hope it gets done right. As long
as he's still attached to the project. Right.
He does. And it makes me curious to see, as far
as Thor 4 goes, how Guardians of the Galaxy 3
is going to tee that up, because it kind of has
to, right? Like, Guardians of the Galaxy 3 is
going to come up 4. As Guardians of the Galaxy?
As Guardians of the Galaxy. Right. That's what
everyone wants, right? But is that going to...
Like, how much lore is that going to have in
it, right? Maybe they just drop him off at the
nearest planet. Exactly. Like, I wonder if he's
out in the first 20 minutes or something like
that to go off and do his thing. 4. The 4? Yeah.
The 4. That's it. It's like Fanforestick. Fanforestick.
Oh, my God. Why would you spell that? Would you
put, like, T -H... 4 -R? 4 -R. Or T -4 -O -R.
To 4. To 4? To 4. What are we talking about?
4. How do you faint four sticks, Thor 4? Oh,
God. Because it feels like it's there, and I
think it's the 4. Like T -H -4. T -H -4 -R. R.
4. Oh, I got it. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. All
right. I really hope the MCU does not buy into
that. No, I don't think they do. I really hope
not, too, but I just felt like it was better.
I don't think they put numbers past three. I
think they learned the lesson with Iron Man 3.
If you guys know, I like to fan four -stick things.
Yeah. Apparently. I just learned something new
about myself. Is that right? And I was getting
called out for the lewd comments. What? For the
lewd comments, it's not. The four? What you're
saying is very inappropriate. I mean, the four
stick, like, yeesh. Oh, that hurts. Yeah, no,
it hurts. Don't bring up that cursed movie. Okay.
Mitchell? Yeah, okay, I think, I'm not sure how
this was brought up before I got to for this,
but the one coming out directly next week. I've
been on a Quentin Tarantino binge over the past
week. That's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. We
talked about it earlier, so before you got here,
Claire mentioned who was going to talk about
it for the next pod. Yeah, you had a fight over
it. And we kind of said it feels like a Mitchell
movie. It does, yeah. And also, who won in bowling
last week, or two weeks ago? Whoa! Wait, time
out! Who was even close to me? Wait, talk about
it. It's who was the closest in the second game.
It's who loses, not who wins. Oh, even if the
stakes were who wins. Now I'm going to take it
away from you. No, no, no. I think we should
let Mitchell take point on this one. I think.
Because I'm going to watch it and we're going
to chime in. I think we're all going to chime
in, right? This is a movie that most people will
see. Definitely. And I will say this, too. It's
very... I think it's getting rarer when you're
seeing... truly rare that original films or at
least conceptually are being put into wide releases
yes definitely tarantino is one of the few filmmakers
who can make that happen definitely you know
so there's zero ip connected with this there's
a little revisionist history with the whole sharon
tate and charles manson storyline right we'll
see how big of a role it is in the movie i'm
not entirely sure I heard Marco Robbie's role,
at least from what I heard out of Cannes, was
that it was a lot smaller than people had expected,
especially with how much she spoke or how little
she spoke in the film. So very interested to
see how that is incorporated into the fictional
golden age of Hollywood that Tarantino is living
in. Yeah. So very excited to see it. I love Brad
Pitt under Tarantino. Pause. And he was amazing
in The Glorious Bastard. He was, yeah. I caught
that late, but that works. My God. So I'd love
to see Brad Pitt. under the direction of Quentin
Tarantino again. Under Quentin Tarantino. But
anyway, excited for that. I think everyone in
this room is. I love the trailer. Everybody in
this room is probably going to see it in the
next two weeks for sure. I think we can tackle
this like how we tackled Far From Home. Everyone's
going to jump in. Claire, do you have anything?
Okay, kill me if you want. I'm really excited
for The Lion King. Yeah! I'm a Disney kid. Woo!
I love watching it. I think this is going to
be one of the... of all of their live -action
ones. I mean, Jon Favreau's behind it, and Joker
Book was good. Yeah, Joker Book was really good.
I liked that one. I'm really excited to see it.
I heard it's really good. The music's good. It's
got good people in it. Yeah, I'm pumped. The
only thing that gives it, like, I'm obviously
going to watch it, and I'm sure I'm going to
love it, but I'm a little uneasy of how... fantastic
the lions and all the animals look. And then
you hear human voices come out. So I'm not sure
how deep in those candy valleys it's going to
be. I think it's going to hit a switch moment
where the beginning of the movie is going to
be a little rough and then all of a sudden you're
just like, I'm not even paying attention. And
I really hope that happens. I don't know if it
is or not, obviously. coming out this week. Because
it looks stunning. It does look amazing. It looks
so lifelike. It's not live action. It's not live
action. I will die on that hill. They call it
live action. You didn't say live action. I will
die on the hill that it is not live action. Jon
Favreau says it's not live action. He's come
out and said this is all computer generated.
But they still keep saying it's a live action
movie. But he's not. And Jon Favreau is great.
I will say, I'm going to get on my small soapbox
for just a second. then I'll step off it right
away. I want Disney to make a 2D animated movie
again. I know Princess and the Frog didn't do
amazing, but... I loved Princess and the Frog.
Right, but... That was 10 years ago. That was
10 years ago. What was the last one? What was
the last one that they did? I think that was
the last one. 2D animated feature film from Disney.
Princess and the Frog was the last one. I will
say this. Not Disney, Pixar, Disney. No, no,
I'm looking up Disney movies. I know what it's
going to give me like Toy Story 4 and that stuff,
but I'm going to look... I'm talking, I'm not,
yeah. So, um... Your beloved video game. Coco.
Yes. Coco? Coco was 3D animated. Coco was 3D
animated. Oh, we're talking... I love Coco. Yeah,
2D animation. I want 2D animation. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. No, no, no. Yeah, Coco, Frozen, Moana,
those are all great. Those movies are great.
But Cuphead's getting its own Netflix series.
Exactly. I think that... Depending on the success
of that, it could open the doors for more 2D
animation of the Cuphead. What's getting so serious?
I'm sorry. Cuphead. So Cuphead's a video game
that came out, I think, a couple years ago. Cell
-shaded style. It's basically done in the style
of old Fleischer and Disney cartoons. It looks
like Steamboat Willie, basically, the video game.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah,
it does. So, yeah. And to that point, yeah, you
got it right there. Oh, got it. Yeah, so they're
making a Netflix's green -lit animated series.
Oh, okay. Yeah. So I think really depending on
the success of that, yeah, I mean, it looks fantastic.
And I think there's going to be some kind of
yearning for that because after some time, the
3D animation will kind of lose its luster, I
suppose. But at the end of the day, it comes
down to whether or not people are willing to
spend the money on it because it is expensive.
It is definitely expensive, and I understand
that. The realities of it is that it is just
easier to make. like digital like films like
you know like 3d animated films now at this point
right because that's just logistically better
now right um so i totally get why because those
movies make an insane amount of money so like
if princess of the frog extremely expensive production
did fine, but not great. Like, I can see why
Disney's moved away from that. It's still just,
you know, I guess I'm an old man now, and I just
yearn for those old, those, you know, like, the
original Lion King, original Beauty and the Beast,
every time they come up with these new remakes,
I'm like, ah, man, I should watch those old ones
again, you know? On VHS. Yes, yeah, exactly.
Yep. What is that? We don't either, so. Anyways,
soapbox time over. You good? Yeah. Usually I
like to stick in the next two weeks for what
I'm excited about just because it's usually by
the next time we do a podcast. You guys have
taken all of them pretty much. In the next two
weeks we've got Lion King. Once Upon a Time in
Hollywood is the two big ones, and then there's
almost nothing else until Hobbs and Shaw, which
we've already talked about. Hobbs and Shaw! I'm
still pumped about that. Side note, do I need
to watch the rest of the Fast and Furious movies
together? Fuck no! There's no way! Am I going
on this? I'm excited then. Worst case, I have
all eight of them. You're more than welcome to
borrow them because we have digital copies. If
you're watching Fast and Furious for the plot,
you're watching it wrong. I know, but also I'm
not, but also I kind of like it. All right, the
things that you'll need to know, The Rock's in
the universe, Jason Statham's in the universe.
They used to, well, they were direct enemies.
Yeah, yeah, The Rock used to be like the, The
Rock used to be the cop antagonist, right? Exactly.
And now he's not, and then he teamed up with
the crew. God, I don't even know any of this.
The last Fast and Furious movie I saw was Tokyo
Drift. And I know there's a, Jesus. Tokyo Drift.
It's like three, right? I know that there's a,
I know that there's a, You've got five movies
to come out. That's okay. I also know there's
a, there's a fan favorite character named Han.
RIP to Han. Okay, that doesn't make it. Yeah,
exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he dead. Arrest
the power, Han. I don't know you, but... Also,
I don't know if you know this or not, but an
actual person died. Oh, Paul Walker. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Okay, way to bring that up. That was hard
to avoid because that movie came out. I had to
bring it up. No, I know, but just Claire's is
like, the last one she saw was Tokyo Drift, and
she's just totally taken by this whole thing.
Fun fact, that's actually what made Seven better
in my mind. Seven's great in its own, but it's
kind of like all the stunts and everything, you're
kind of thinking to yourself, Paul Walker might
die in one of these stunts. Oh, my God. That
would have been so bad if they did that. And
so it's kind of one of those things where you're
just like, is this it? Is this the part? That
kind of thing. Given the circumstances of his
passing, that would have been real bad if they
had that happen. Yeah, but it's just one of those
things where you don't want to think about it.
Sure, sure, sure. No, no, no, definitely. Fast
Five is still my favorite. Fast Five is great.
Fast Five. Fast Five is great. But yeah, as I
was saying, you guys have taken all the ones
we've talked about before. So I don't have strong
feelings about it, but I'm kind of excited about
it. There's a movie called The Art of Self -Defense.
Yes, Jesse Eisenberg. Jesse Eisenberg. It's definitely
more of an indie movie, but it is Jesse Eisenberg
in an indie movie. And it kind of harkens back
to Adventureland, Zombieland, those kind of...
But not as... It's not as funny. It's not going
to be... There's a little bit of funny to it,
but it's definitely... Here's the plot as summed
up in three sentences. A man is attacked at random
on the street. He enlists at a local dojo led
by a charismatic and mysterious sensei in an
effort to learn how to defend himself. There
you go. And the guy who was attacked at random
is Jesse Eisenberg. I probably am going to see
it now that I'm an A -list member. Hey, welcome.
Nice plug. Yeah, so now I might actually go see
it. So, yeah. So. Guys? Girls? Thank you. Any
last thoughts? No. I'm very excited for the upcoming
couple weeks of movies because Lion King, I have
a lot of catching up to do with Midsommar. And
then, of course, what's upon a time in Hollywood.
So the next one is going to be overloaded with
some great movies. Are you going to see that
by yourself? At this point, I don't think Kelly's
going to go with me. Smart woman. I don't know
her, but it's midsummer, right? So I think I'm
going to have to stick it out of my mouth. I
might have to nut up and go. There, Dane. Dane,
do you want to go? I don't know, but I want to
go. Audrey Mitchell did! I told you guys I'd
go. Audrey Mitchell and Mike Dane. You guys at
the ball, hold my hands through the scary parts.
I prefer the term threesome. Oh, wow. and my
encroaching on his face. Nice, yeah. It's just
like, Claire, what are you doing here? You guys
need to hold my hands through the scary parts,
okay? How can we hold your hand when your hands
are over your eyes? You're going to have to grab
them. No, you've got to do it. Any smart, scary
movie person gets over the ears. That is exactly
what I did when I was a little kid. I hated loud
noises, so I would put my hand up. I can watch
a movie, I just can't hear all the sounds. Because
you know when it gets really silent, you're like,
fuck, this is going to happen. Anyways, Midsommar.
Yeah, Midsommar. We're excited for so many different
movies. Yeah, so by the next time we might see
all of the movies. Probably. Yeah. So, yeah.
It'll be a long podcast. That'll do it for me,
Mike. Claire. Mitchell. And Andre. We'll see
you next time on Game for a Movie. Bye. Bye.
Bye.