You know what that sound means? It's another
episode of Game for a Movie. It is Game for a
Movie 31. I just lost a complete moment of my
mind there. What just happened? I don't know.
You glitched out for a second. I did. Yes, it
is 31. Yeah, it's 31. It's kind of confusing
because we're double dipping this weekend, aren't
we? We are double dipping this weekend, so we
will probably release these separately. but we
are recording twice this weekend. This is episode
31, and we're actually doing it out of order
because Andre couldn't be a part. Yeah. I was
like, can I get a Santino soundbite from Project
Run where I, what happened to Andre? I gotta
work on soundbites. Yeah, we got to be like a
morning zoo show where it's just like all these
wacky soundbites just keep getting fed in. Well,
like all these other shows I listen to have like
audio beds and then they like include sound effects
and stuff like that. And I'm thinking to myself,
whoa, we don't do that. And then I'm going, but
we're also, I'm not good enough at that. Yeah,
I wouldn't know how, like, I used to have like
one of those like talkback things as a child
where you like put a thing in and then you could
like layer sound. Like, that is the gist of my
sound mixing abilities right there. I think I
could do audio beds. I think I could probably
do sound effects, but it would take a lot more
editing and I'm lazy. So, you know. Speaking
of audio beds, there's a lot of audio issues
in the movie that I watched, but we're going
to get to that at the end of the episode. Oh,
yes. Mitchell lost. But first, let's introduce
ourselves as we do every episode. I am your host,
Mike Butank. I am joined by... You sound like
a daytime talk show. Dylan Mitchell, peace out.
I got my coffee, so I'm right there. I also have
my coffee. Alright, well you both jumped into
it. Well, I guess I'm the only heathen on the
show because I got a mimosa. I'm jelly of your
mimosa. Well, I also have a beer for when the
mimosa's gone, which it only has like two sips
left. Lone Pine Brewing Company from Portland,
Maine. I've got Space Metal Dinosaur. only buy
beer based on the name. Yes. Because that is
an awesome name. And honestly, this is a great
beer. What's funny about it is I did buy it based
on name only. Claire was at the liquor store
and she was buying beer for me because I needed
a new four pack. And she goes, here are your
options. The Space Metal Dinosaur. And I was
like, Space Metal Dinosaur. Yeah. I discovered
Pipeworks. Yeah. versus Unicorn when I was in
Chicago solely because of the name. Yep. They
also have Lizard King, which is great. They have
some great ones out there. Shout out to Pipeworks.
I love Pipeworks. Oh, my God. I love Loading
Pine, too. This is a great beer. Okay. We've
talked about what we're drinking. We've introduced
ourselves. Let's talk movies. Oh, boy. Yeah.
Did you just, like, sigh about talking movies?
It's like, whoa. here or something. I know, but
the movie I have to talk about today. That's
fair. But you know what, Mitchell? Think about
it this way. No one can ever make you watch it
again. The movie can't hurt you anymore. That's
true. I mean, honestly, the best part about the
movie is it was like 80 minutes and that was
it. So I did appreciate that. Yes, and it is
a sequel to one of the ones we've talked about
on the show before, so get ready for that. So...
Normally, I stick with things that I've watched
recent, that are like recent movies. It's never
been a rule. We can watch whatever we want. But
it's just kind of one of those things where I
just like to watch recent. Well, as I'm getting
ready to record, I'm going, I haven't really
watched any recent movies lately besides one
that I'm going to talk about for Cash or Trash.
So I did a hashtag boozing and tweeting this
past week for Clue. 1985 classic Clue. You know,
the one with Tim Curry, Christopher Lloyd, Martin
Mull, Madeline Kahn, Eileen Brennan. It's a star
-studded cast. And Michael McKean. How could
I forget him as well? If you don't know Clue,
it's based on the board game. It is the best
movie released about a board game until Uno comes
out next year. You mean Battleship. Excuse me.
I do not mean Battleship. Rihanna was in that.
dare you. Yes, Rihanna is in that and she's by
far a highlight among the sheer stupidity that
surrounds her. No, like I said, it's the best
board game movie until Uno comes out next year.
I don't even know how that movie's going to work.
I have no clue. We're going to find out. It's
going to be great. It boggles the mind. It boggles
the mind. Clue is basically all these people
get invited to a mansion. They get invited there
by a mysterious Mr. Body, which I just love the
fact that his name is Mr. Body. We have Wadsworth
the butler, played by Tim Curry to perfection,
who basically is told to play this tape, that
all of them are getting blackmailed. They all
get a weapon each, and they can decide to do
with it what they wish. Obviously the weapons
are like the rope, the lead pipe. Why am I explaining
this movie? You've probably seen this movie.
You probably have played Clue. You probably played
Clue. Mr. Body ends up dead. So does the cook.
And that basically makes the whole thing unravel.
And then the rest of the movie is trying to figure
out who did it. Who done it. Who done it. Sorry.
And what I love about the movie. is that there
is three endings to it. Right. And so when it
came out, the theaters got different endings
so that nobody could spoil it, and everybody
thought they had the right ending. And it's definitely
a ploy, too, to get people to go back. Yeah.
So I wonder how much... This movie did. It did
not do well. There's a really good YouTuber.
I believe the one I'm thinking of is Pushing
Up Roses. She did a video on this and that's
when I found out that Clue was not a commercial
success. It's one of those that it found. It's
like Princess Bride. It found success on video
release and through rentals. And it's funny you
bring up Princess Bride because Princess Bride
was the last Boozin' and Tweetin'. Make sure
you're following our Twitter because I'm day
and night on the Twitters. If you want to get
annoyed by me in some capacity, please follow
our Twitter, especially for these Boozin' and
Tweetins. I love when people chime in. I like
to watch classic comedies that a ton of people
have watched. So it's never something that I
think I'm spoiling. If you haven't seen Clue
at this point, like, come on. It's a great throwback
movie. It definitely, you know, it was made in
a generation before ours, but it's something
that we enjoyed as kids. And as we were discussing
before the pod, I think Gen Z and below haven't
really been introduced to this movie properly.
Right. And I mean, go ahead. Okay. Well, two
things. One, yes, it is pushing up Rose as the
YouTuber. She did a really good video on the
history of Clue. And then what Mitchell said
is that... I didn't watch Clue until I was in
college, and I'm more than 91, so I'm still 100
% a millennial. When am I? You're a millennial.
You're a millennial, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah,
so I feel that there's not really, especially
now with the proliferation of social media, I
feel like there's not really that many opportunities
to come across this film unless somebody slaps
you down in a chair and is like, we're going
to watch this. Or you go to a midnight screening,
which I think a midnight screening of this would
be so fun. I think so, too. Oh, absolutely. Yeah,
I think that'd be a blast. So this conversation
did... Hold up, one sec. Crack in a beer. Yeah,
I love that sound. Mimosa is Denso. Yes, the
mimosa is Denso. It did bring up a question that
I had for you guys, because I don't really think
we need to talk a whole lot about this movie.
Yes, it's great and everything like that, and
I have a rating for it. We can talk about it,
but really you just need to experience it yourself,
especially the dialogue. It's just so snappy
witty, like everything. The question I had is
when you played Clue growing up, what was your
favorite weapon and who was your character? Well,
my character for sure is Professor Plum every
time. Every time I could get them. And then my
weapon of choice, I don't know why the rope keeps
popping out at me. But the rope, for whatever
reason, is sticking out. But really for character,
the choice that matters here for me is Professor
Plum. Nice. I was Miss Scarlet. Or... I don't
know. I'm a sibling. I have an older sister,
two years older. We were kind of color -coded.
So, like, she always got blue things. I always
got red things. So when we would play a board
game, she would always pick the blue piece. And
then us being girls and leaning towards more
feminine colors, you know, white or red would
kind of be my choices. Nobody wanted to be Colonel
Mustard and yellow. So, Scarlet. As for weapons,
I don't know. The lead pipe is just so... unrefined
and unsophisticated. I kind of love, like, the
sheer brute force of it. So, I would say lead
pipe. Just because it's... It's a fucking lead
pipe. Oh, sorry. What are you sorry for? We're
explicit. The E stands for explicit. We have
the explicit warning? Okay, good. Yes. You curse
all the time in this shit. Yeah, I was just gonna
say... Wait, alright. Let's earn our E. Fuck,
fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Okay, good.
Somebody do their rendition of the George Carlin
skit. Oh, no. Cock sucker motherfucker. I used
to remember all of that. Piss is one of them?
Yeah. Really? Tits? Tits is one? No, piss. I
think piss. No, it's tits. It's tits. Oh, it's
tits? It's tits. Because he talks about Nabisco
tits being a snack. And it is one. It's seven
dirty words, right? The seven words you can't
say on television. Cock sucker motherfucker.
We're both right because piss is one of them.
So he goes, shit, piss, fuck. This one hurts
to say because it is a really bad word for us.
And then in Australia, it's used all the time.
Cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits. That
is the seventh. For anyone who's clutching their
pearls, this conversation was done for the name
of, you know, science and discovery. Because
we needed to discover what these words were.
God damn it. I really want to... I really want
to make this the preview that we put out there,
but I just know we can't. We get banned on so
many sites. Yo, that one soundbite we put out
on social, was this me talking about penises?
Yes, but it was a refined discussion about penises.
I guess. I think we're getting away from the
point. Hey, so I played as Mr. Green. I love
the color green, so I was Mr. Green. Okay, makes
sense. My weapon was the candlestick, because
I just found it so weird that it was just a candlestick.
Yeah, it's a... What do you do with it? You just
hit somebody with it, right? You hit someone
with a head, yeah. Or maybe, like, poke them
with a candle. Right, but the lead pipe is better
for, like, hitting them over the head with. But
for whatever reason, I always thought the candlestick
was hysterical. It was just like, oh, we've got
a revolver, some rope, lead pipe, fine, fine,
fine. Candlestick? The fuck? And a poison. And
a poison. There's everywhere. Yeah. Like, why
isn't poison an option? Well, and poison's an
option in the movie. There is a point where they
think the brandy was poisoned. Oh, yeah. So it
is in the movie. And then I had a question for
our friends that are across the pond. Is the
movie called Clue or is it called Cluedo? Or
Cluedo. Cluedo. Cluedo. That's it. Oh, got it.
You know, like the different versions of it and
everything like that? I can't talk, apparently,
Cluedo. God damn it. Okay, so we're talking like
when it's translated overseas, is what you're
saying? Well, it's called Cluedo or Cluedo everywhere
but America. Yes. Oh, got it, got it. And so
what would the movie be called? And I think I
got told in Germany it was something like A Night
for Murder or something like that is what they
called it. That's a great name. And it was so
much better. I was like, this is awesome. And
whoever it was that told me this, please tell
me again because I thought it was such a cool
name. But yeah. I like it. Clue, Tim Curry's
finest, I think, in my opinion. Really? I think
so. What would you put? Because I would agree.
I need to. Rocky Horror is my immediate one because
it's such a... Rocky Horror is great. And for
a lot of people, I think that's their... Okay,
maybe it's not a lot of people, but I feel like
Tim Curry... He's also Rooster in Annie, and
he's fantastic there. I'm trying to look at a
filmography just so I can get my time. Don't
forget about It. I've never seen It, so... I
gotta say, all of these movies are fine Tim Curry
movies. And you got me with Rocky Horror a little
bit where I'm like, eww, maybe I was wrong. Maybe
I was speaking a little too... If we're just
talking about him and his individual performance,
Rocky Horror and Clue are definitely up there.
I would say I'm a person who loves Rocky Horror
as a midnight experience. As a movie, it is not
good, in my opinion. And you and I can talk about
this sometimes, so I agree with you. I made Claire
watch Rocky Horror around Halloween this year.
And she got about halfway through and was like,
why are we watching this? And I was like, yeah,
that's fair. So I wanted to make her watch that
before we did a midnight screening. So for going
back to my favorite, for my favorite Tim Curry's,
I'm going to say it's twofold. So there's the
film. Live performance, and then there's voice
acting for me. So film, it's Rocky Horror. It's
Rocky Horror because not only is that his first
film role, it's just such a tour de force from
him. And the way that he enters is just fantastic.
But then for voice acting, which for me is where,
I mean, Tim Curry's all throughout my childhood
in animated films. It's Hexis from Ferngully.
Who knew that some polluted air could be sexy?
There's your soundbite right there. Yeah, it
is. I mean, his song is literally an orgasmic
extravaganza about how much he loves pollution.
Okay. Noxious love. Okay. I did think of one
other one that needs to be on the list, is his
role in the video game Command & Conquer. Space!
I have not played that. Nobody really has, but
everybody's seen it. It is, so it is a, what
is it? It has like live action video scenes in
between the actual playing of it. It's like an
old 90s, 80s game. It's not a good game, but
it just has him hamming it up as the Russian
villain trying to get to space first. And he
has this part where he literally just like in
the screen just goes, space! And it's insane.
I'm not even joking. I'll send you guys the clip.
It's so worth it. Clue is a movie that I think
is his best performance. And it gets my first...
No. I think I have another one. It is... First
of 2021. First of 2021. We will say that. Perfect.
Five out of five dead bodies. Yay! Very well
done. It has earned it. It is one of my favorites.
Any bad day I have, I go and watch Clue, and
it just makes everything better, and it still
holds true to this day. Yeah. If anyone who's
listening to this podcast has never seen it,
I highly, I think we all can agree, go and watch
it. Yes. I'm trying to find out where it's streaming.
Check it out from your local library. I think
it was on Prime? It's on Pluto TV. LA and Amazon.
Yeah, okay. I was going to say, I think I watched
it on Prime. Okay, cool. Yes. Okay. Jill, that
brings us to you. Yep, the cross -stitch is being
set down. I love how you're cross -stitching
while you do this. Like, you're... Normally,
I'm like, when people are distracted, I'm like,
oh, was it something I said? But you were, like,
fully in the conversation and still cross -stitching.
I have very... Like, I can't do, like, my hand...
Idle hands is not a thing for me. So if I wasn't
cross -stitching, I would either be multitasking
with some other game like Vertex from the New
York Times .com or crocheting. I need to do multiple
things at once. My brain just can't. Which is
funny because Andre cannot multitask at all.
So I'll be trying to have a conversation with
him while he's talking to people online. He's
like, nope, nope, my brain is breaking. It's
not that hard. a few movies, and after some deliberation,
I've settled on the one I'm going to talk about.
It came out in 2019. It is The Farewell, directed
by Lulu Wang, starring Awkwafina. This movie...
Lulu Wong. Thanks for the correction. She pronounces
it Wong. Good to know. Lulu Wong. I remember...
I remember seeing trailers for this film and
hearing the buzz that it was getting during the
awards circuit. And I finally had an opportunity
to watch it. It is streaming on Amazon Prime
for those who are members. And it is the story
of a Chinese family who returns back to China
because the grandmother, Nene, she is dying of,
I think it's lung cancer. But as is, I guess,
a custom in Chinese culture, they're not going
to tell her. Instead, they're going to spend
the last time they're likely going to see her
as normal. They don't want to bring her down
with bad news because it's not the cancer that'll
kill her. It'll be the sadness and the bad news,
the thinking. And Awkwafina stars in it. And
she's really the only family member at first
who's like, no, we can't do this. This is wrong.
If this was America, this would be effectively
illegal. But she kind of struggles throughout
the whole film to decide, am I going to tell
her or am I going to go along with this ruse?
And the cover to explain why all the family is
getting together is a wedding between her cousin
and his Japanese girlfriend. And they've only
been dating for like two or three months at this
point. And it's not clear to me. And the question
that I have, maybe Mitchell, you know. Was this
a real marriage between the cousin and the girlfriend?
Or were they just going to, like, get divorced
after? I don't know. This whole story is based
on, so Lulu Wang, before she directed this, she
was a producer on, what's it called, This American
Life. And this was a story that she put out there.
So I think a lot of it is legitimate and true.
It's based on a real lie, is how the movie is.
Based on a real lie, exactly. I don't know what
the custom is. I can't really speak to that,
but that could be the case. You know? Yeah, but
this movie is really fantastic. I don't want
to give too much away, but it's very interesting
seeing the family dynamics play out because over
time, other family members start to reveal that
they too feel that this might not be the right
way to go about these things. Maybe it would
be better if they tell the grandmother. But then
other ones are like, no, this is just not how
it's done. It's better. It's a kindness to keep
the truth from her. And the whole time, Awkwafina
delivers such a fantastic performance. You know,
I'm used to seeing her being loud and brash and
funny from her YouTube days and then also in
Ocean's 8. I haven't seen her in Raya and the
Last Dragon, but I know she plays the dragon.
And it's kind of like a genie -esque performance.
But she's just so wonderful here. And you really
see her convey so many emotions while also trying
to not show them. Because the family is concerned
that she's going to just spill the beans immediately.
And there's some gorgeous cinematography, too.
I really enjoyed how there are these many wonderful
shots around China showing old with the new.
So buildings that are being torn down and new
developments happening. There's a scene where
they're driving and Awkwafina's character, Benny,
says, oh, I recognize this place. Why do I recognize
it? And the character's like, oh, this is where
your grandmother lived. She's like, oh, let's
go back. I want to see the house. No, it's not
there anymore. And I found that kind of poignant,
you know, this slow removal of the old being
replaced with these new. new infrastructure which
is kind of funny because you know you're seeing
this modernization of china and yet there's this
clinging on to this old custom of not telling
people that you know they're dying um which like
i said at the beginning i had no idea that that
was a thing it's just it was a really good movie
um it is uh mostly in i think mandarin So subtitles
are required. Don't try to multitask to this,
as I originally thought maybe I could. There's
a world of great movies out there if you just
read the little words. Just read the subtitles.
Sorry, I probably screwed that quote up, but,
you know, that's great. And then, you know, despite
all this kind of sad topics. You do have some
really hilarious scenes between characters. There's
a scene where Awkwafina's character and the grandmother
are outside doing exercises. And the grandmother
is walking around, hitting parts of her body,
expelling out the bad energy. And she's like,
this is how I stay young. And then there's another
scene during the wedding reception where you're
watching all these characters just kind of get
boozy and singing karaoke, playing a drinking
game. And you just you really feel towards the
end like you're part of this family and you're
peeking into this very sad time in their lives.
And you really kind of walk away at the end of
it being like, OK, that was something. And now
I have to think about how how do I feel if I
was in this situation? What would I do? Right.
So, yeah, farewell. Big fan. Happy I finally
got to see it. It's interesting that I think
I'm the only person that hasn't seen it, obviously,
of the three of us. It's interesting to hear
you both say such high things about it and that
I still haven't watched it yet. I think that's
what I think is funny about it all. It's not
work. I wouldn't say this movie is a task to
watch, but you definitely should be in... You
shouldn't go into this movie not in... You shouldn't
go in in a bad mood. I would not recommend that.
It might... It might upset you. I mean, in my
family, not that we like lied to someone about
having health issues, but health, bad health,
bad news about health is not really something
my family talks about. So we had my mother's
father pass away, but then his older sister,
she didn't know he died. And she passed away
a couple months later, never knowing that. And
that always kind of bothered me. but then, you
know, framed after rewatch for watching the farewell
where they're saying it's not the cancer, it's
the bad news. It's like, yeah, I can, I can see
the other side of this argument. Yeah. And that's
very interesting that you bring that up because
like hearing you talk about that, it's definitely
something that it's a conundrum. Like if you
find out bad news about somebody else, do you
tell them, do you not, even in like, smaller
things it doesn't need to necessarily be like
oh somebody's dying it's hey this person is um
i'm trying to think of a smaller example but
you know there there is small examples where
it's you know this bad news do you tell them
ahead of it or do you hold off do you do you
i think we can all relate to that even if it's
not like a culture thing we do relate to that
I think the big question in the movie, were they
doing it for themselves or were they really trying
to do it for Nene? I think that's what I came
away with. How much is the question for yourself?
Yeah, the comfort in, well, if I don't tell her
the bad news, then it's not necessarily real.
And you can see that with across the family members
that there are some who are like Awkwafina's
character, Billy, where they're like, no, this
isn't right. This isn't good. But then there
are other ones where you're like, eh, it's the
way things are. Life goes on. You know, it'll
be all right. And I really like that you got
that range of character reactions to the situation
because it left it ambiguous. Was this for them
or was this for her? Yeah. And Mike, to your
credit, I mean, the reason why not a lot of people
have seen this. 2019, I'm just looking back now,
this was an A24 movie, and 2019 was a huge year
for A24 in terms of putting out just a ton of
projects. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Before you do this,
because, all right, we're going to test my knowledge
because you know my movie preferences. We're
going to see how many of these I've actually
seen for your point here. I was just going to
say, with a smaller production company like A24,
which is known for its higher -brow content,
they will pick and choose a handful of projects
to really put a marketing push behind. And in
my opinion, just looking at the box office results,
the top two, number one is at the very end of
the year, they came out with Uncut Gems. Oh,
what? So there's one. I'm one and one. One and
one. And I haven't officially finished Uncut
Gems. I got really uncomfortable that night.
There's no way I can continue on with this list
because there's no way you've seen Waves. There's
no way you've seen The Last Black Man in San
Francisco, which is a movie I really liked. But
it just wasn't pushed that hard. High Life, Gloria
Bell, The Souvenir, which is a movie I still
need to see if I really want to. Under the Silver
Lake, I didn't see until last year. Then, what's
another one? The Lighthouse. The Lighthouse with
Robert Pattinson and Willem Dafoe. I've seen
that one now. I'm one of eight. And I feel like
The Lighthouse has had more publicity than The
Farewell because you could sell it based on come
see Willem Dafoe. Wacky star power. We're going
to put these two actors together in a very tight
room. and you should just come to watch what
happens. So I'm proud of myself for hearing of
most of those. I think Waves and Under the Silver
Lake were the only two I hadn't heard before
we talked about it. And I know this hurts you
deeply inside, but... No, it doesn't. I feel
fine. Okay. All right. All of this is to say
that I think The Farewell is... an absolute must
watch if you are in the right mood and i don't
want to make that sound like you only have to
be happy going into it but i could absolutely
see people walking away from this film being
like oh my god this is such a downer and now
i feel feel bad about things um we all have our
yeah we all have our movie that feels that way
sometimes like i get that yeah And I think that
this is just a really good showcase of Awkwafina's
acting abilities. I know some people who don't
like her, which is weird, but I think that this
shows that she's not like a one -trick pony,
that her character in Crazy Rich Asians is not
all that she is. She has range, and she can do
a lot of emoting without actually emoting, if
you know what I mean. I'm not talking like Emmy
Rosenberg. stone face in Phantom of the Opera,
but, like, when she can't convey the sadness
that she has about the situation, you still see
it in her eyes, and you really feel, like, the
conflict. That's the second week in a row we've
talked about Emmy Rossum. Really? Oh, yeah, because
she popped up in, um... DBE! Yeah, we're gonna
talk about her tomorrow. Hey, you know what?
At least she learned how to emote for that movie.
And Awkwafina, this is, you know, I don't agree
with the Golden Globes a lot, but she won the
Golden Globe that year. You did, you're right.
I haven't, I did not, once again, I failed to
do my homework and forgot to look that up. But
yes, so I would say four out of five. The only
reason I'm going to leave off the not give it
a five is the emotion, because of the emotions
that I felt while watching it and then what I've
walked away from. Four out of five what? Four,
oh my god, there's so much. food in this movie
oh my god it looks so good i got so hungry i
just wanted to go eat dim sum um i'm gonna say
four out of five crab plates nice yeah all right
all right not lobster crap so we we've had a
pretty good episode so far we've got a five out
of five we got a four out of five let's keep
it rolling with Great movie that Mitchell had
to watch. I'm so excited to hear about the cinematic
masterpiece. Yes. Guys, as a sports fan, there
are many moments where I'm watching someone like
Steph Curry. When he is hot and hitting every
three -point shot that he's putting up there,
I'm thinking to myself, wow, he makes it look
so damn easy. I bet I could go out to the yard
right now and do the same thing. And as it turns
out, I can't. And then this movie made me and
Kelly say the same thing. Wow, we could go out
and make this movie for the complete opposite
reason. Wait, you made Kelly watch this? Kelly
sat down and actually watched the entirety of
Vampire Boys 2, the new brood. Yes! Jesus, Peter.
She's a keeper. She's a keeper? And it's a 75
-minute journey of emotion and, let's see, brooding,
as the title would suggest. A lot of shirtless
men. A lot of full frontal nudity from men. More
peni? What's that? More peni? Oh, lots of it.
Lots of peni. Does this movie have a subtitle,
Vampire Boys 2, Back in Action, or something
like that? The New Brood. The new brood. The
new brood. Yeah. Yeah. And then, yeah, so we
got a lot of great action sequences. But let's
get into it, okay? So I was, you know, writing
down notes as I typically do watching these bad
movies. We watched this on Tubi. So we had the
one, it's free, which is great. And then two,
there are like little ad breaks. throughout the
movie so I actually had time to jot down notes
so I could be a captive audience and then jot
them down during an appropriate time so here's
some of the notes I wrote down let me guess you
were a really captive audience I was I was well
me and Kelly were just like honestly the first
stop This is an incredibly hard movie to follow.
And throughout the entire time, we were looking
on IMDb, we were looking on Wikipedia if we could,
trying to figure out, what the hell are any of
these people talking about? Because it looks
like they're referencing so many things from
the first Vampire Boys, with characters and plot
development from that one. But Mike, as you pointed
out, if you were watching this sequel, having
watched the first one before, you wouldn't recognize
anyone because they recast the entire fucking
movie. Oh my god! Completely. It's the same characters,
just recast. Yes. What does that say about the
first one, then, that they didn't want to come
back? No, it's just that they all just got immediate
success, and the movie couldn't afford them anymore.
That's true. Anyway, that is not true, because
if we... Okay, one of my favorite things about
IMDb... I'm looking through the cast list for
Vampire Boys 2, and it looks like a screen of
characters you have yet to unlock in a video
game because it has those silhouettes of people
with names next to them. You're like, oh, wow,
they haven't done anything besides this movie.
And for the most part, that was true. It was
tough. It was tough, and I can see why. The acting
itself, if I want to start somewhere, is that
it... it felt very high school. It felt middle
school where someone would say, Mike, you're
someone who, you know, did theater in college
and you've probably seen this growth with a lot
of actors, but you would have someone say their
line. The other person takes a beat and then
they say their line, you know, it's just like
waiting for their turn to talk. Oh, especially,
especially in high school. Like it's, it's just
line, line, line, line. And yeah. Definitely
experiencing it in my two years of college theater.
You see when people start to hit that point of
just like, but why am I feeling that way? Yeah,
that was the vibe for 75 minutes. And thank God
this was 75 minutes. That was easily the best
part of the movie. But it's incredible how much
this thing reminded me of The Room. And I'm not
using that as a compliment in the fact that The
Room is, in a way, a fun watch because of how
abnormally bad it is. And you have just the craziest
line reading and all that. But I'm just talking
about the sheer quality of the filmmaking. And
that is the use of ambient sound. One of my favorite
moments, this movie is set in L .A., allegedly.
Yes. I hate Canada. No, they are in L .A., but
here's the choice that really befuddled me. They're
supposed to be, like, in the woods, you know,
just, like, away from society. And they're all,
like, these vampires are talking to each other.
they decide to mix the audio crazy where you
could hear nature really, really loud. And it's
like bugs and animals and chirping of animals
that are not indigenous to the Los Angeles area.
And that is what made it so hard to follow. Partly
because I couldn't even hear the dialogue of
what these dudes were saying. And it's like them
in the woods. And another great moment, as they're
walking through the woods, they definitely wanted
you to know that they're walking on, like, crunchy
leaves and twigs and stuff. They really made
you feel like a leaf in that forest. Oh, yeah,
they wanted you there. And, yeah, like, who cares
what the characters are saying, as long as you
know you're in the woods with them. I'm glad
to hear that. I'm really glad that they kept
the same sound editor from the first one because
that's what it sounds like. Alright, so we need
to talk about sound. Was there a rabble, rabble,
rabble anywhere in the movie? No. No, there was
not a discernible rabble, rabble, rabble. Damn,
because that was the sound editor in the first
one's crowning achievement where the rednecks
there were just literally saying rabble, rabble,
rabble. And I think that would have actually
helped the movie because that makes it feel like,
oh, it knows what it is. This one, it feels like
they're trying to tell, in certain scenes, like
they really believe. that this is a story of
self -sacrifice and love and choosing to be the
better man despite bad circumstances. Like, it's
all there, kind of. Unfortunately, none of it's
executed. And then one more thing about the sound,
which I love so much, this brings me back to
college, really. Whenever you're filming something
and you're cutting between the different cameras,
I tell that it was recorded poorly. from an audio
perspective, is that you can hear the audio quality
change as you're going from camera cut to camera
cut. Oh, no. Yeah, the ambient noise changes
as you're going in the same scene. You're in
the diner or wherever, and there's, like, a lot
of white noise, and then there's none. Oh, God.
It's like, oh, my God, this is so jarring. And,
again, hard to follow. mountains worth of exposition
that was given through the dialogue. Just absolutely
incredible. So what's the plot? Yeah, what is
the plot? That is a great question. That is a
question that philosophers are still considering.
Yeah, this movie was made in 2013, so obviously,
you know, capturing the Twilight craze, or trying
to at least. And this was, basically, it boils
down to two covens, so two groups of vampires.
who are put in a position to battle each other.
And really, it's two people trying to determine
who's going to live and who's going to die. And
it's between our main characters, Jason and Demetrius.
Demetrius is the antagonist. And Demetrius is
actually the one who is setting this up. And
the plot goes, essentially, there is a fight
club of sorts in the vampire world. And Demetrius
wants to take that over and recruit humans to
become vampires by making them fight each other
to the death. And while these humans, you know,
battle out and whoever ends up surviving then
gets turned into a vampire as a reward. And it
goes from there. Let me guess, the fighting takes
place shirtless. Oh, most of the movie takes
place shirtless. Yes. Okay. Here's the deal.
So you talk about the shirtless thing and typically
it's to, you know, just kind of exploit the fact
that these guys have amazing bodies, amazing
abs or whatever. I don't want to be titillated
by the hotness on the screen. That is not the
case in this movie. It's not the case in the
first one either. In one case, I guess you can
respect it as Kelly brought up. It's just like,
well, they're kind of, you know, just saying
like, hey, this is anybody. you know, space body
can be in this movie. And that's kind of, you
know, all encompassing. That's cool. Very good
for you. Yeah. Yeah. But at the same time, if
a dude is shirtless, you may as well make it
worth the audience's time. This makes me think
of the second Twilight movie where, you know,
after like two hours of hanging out with a very,
very good looking Taylor Lautner, who's shirtless
also. You know, it jump cuts to Edward in Venice
or wherever he is. He's, like, solemnly taking
off his shirt to reveal to the world that he's
a vampire. And I just remember being in a theater
and, like, when he took that shirt off, the girls
on my left, my right, and my, like, my best friend
on my left were like, and I was like, ugh. Not
so much. I saw that movie in a midnight screen
for a girl because, you know, reasons. Um, yeah.
If I wanted to see myself on screen in a movie...
I was like, okay, to Robert Pattinson's credit,
at least when he made this movie, I appreciate
that he looked like the everyman, but after all
of that Taylor Lautner hotness, he was quite
the step down. Get ready for bad abs. Oh, God,
yeah. set of like abs quote unquote we see and
he's actually probably my favorite character
in the movie and it shows a lot that I don't
even care to remember the character's name but
he's in it and he's actually someone that you
want to root for he's the guy who originally
is running this gym where people are doing the
bike clubs and he's kind of a bigger heftier
dude and there's a moment in the first scene
where he is getting dressed from fighting and
there's like this insert shot of him zipping
up his hoodie and it's just centered and focused
in on his abdomen if you want to call it that
and it's just like clearly designed to make you
think oh wow look at these rock hard abs and
it's just like a one zip very gratuitous shot
I didn't get it at all made me laugh but anyway
I feel like the rest of this podcast I need to
do shirtless like pop my top off you know like
you know what if you guys want to be in Vampire
Boys 3 the I don't know the unfanging Go for
it. The unbanging. That's pretty good. I do like
that. So, okay. Oh, Mike has an outing. Wait,
is he doing it? Oh, shit. Mike has done it. Shirtless
podcasting. Do you have a hoodie that you could,
like, sultrally zip up? I do, actually. I do
actually have a sultrous hoodie that I can zip
up shortly. Give me a second. Who's that comedian
who does, like... Burt Kreischer. Yeah. Burt
Kreischer. The machine. Hey, at Bert Kreischer,
when you listen to our show, listen to Dad's
on Dayquil. They really want to get you on the
show. Mike, for the sound, instead of the can
popping, it should be the zippy, the zipper.
I'm sorry, ready? Ready? No. Oh, no. Oh, no.
I saw that. I saw a fake sound effect on YouTube.
You can find one. The zipper? Yeah. Why do I
have my shirt off? Wait, what happened? Zip for
a movie. Oh, wow. That could be our, like, porn
side podcast. When we talk about bad pornos,
I'm actually totally captured. I mean, this movie
is pretty damn close to being a porno, I would
say. Is it rated R or is it unrated? Well, with
the full frontal, like, I don't know what it's
rated. I mean, it should be NC -17 or up, I would
imagine. Well, if it's flaccid, we know it's
R. That's true. That's true. Everything was dead
flaccid. I don't know how... how anyone could
be aroused by any of the sex scenes that they
were trying to pull off. All right, it's cold.
I'm putting my shirt back on. Good for you. Sorry.
Gotta find it. I threw it away, so. Oh, my God.
I mean, the awkwardness that we're experiencing
here was basically all 75 minutes of Vampire
Boys 2. What awkwardness? What awkwardness? We're
just dudes with our shirt off. We're just a couple
of dudes. Dude, the shirt off, you know? Dude,
singular dude with shirt off. Singular dude,
you know? Whatever. Don't be down to hang. So,
Mike, I got a question for you. Shoot. Becoming
a vampire, me and Kelly were trying to figure
out why every character... So, I don't... Okay.
So in the end of Vampire Boys 1, both the female
and the male that were up for being the one that
Jason would turn, both got turned. So there is
a female and a male that both got turned. Yeah,
the female's back in this too. Okay. I was going
to ask if any women were in this movie. I don't
think the idea was... every vampire is gay I
think it was more so like they're just so they
don't care like they don't care male or female
that kind of thing so I think they're just bi
creatures that tracks with just general vampirism
and pop culture is that when you're an immortal
what is like why limit yourself you're gonna
live forever It doesn't matter. I think also
the idea with some of the people that have been
turned, at least in my understanding of Vampire
Boys 1, the four main vampires in Vampire Boys
1, Jason was the leader, and then the other three
just feel like his boys that he thinks he can
hang out with for forever. They don't necessarily
have relations. They're just, hey, this is my
crew. These are my boys. This is Tiny. This is
Bigwig. This is Shark. Well, Jason has a lover.
He definitely has a lover in this movie. His
name is Kevin. Oh, Caleb? Yeah, it was Caleb.
It was Caleb. Caleb was in the first one. Okay,
so he is his lover in this one. The very first
scene, we see them together in bed. So that is
established from the get -go. And he is actually,
Caleb is kind of the MacGuffin of this whole
thing because Demetrius basically abducts him
and wants to turn him over to his coven by fighting
the only female character that we have seen in
this movie. But how the whole battle sequence
at the end pans out, she is about to kill Caleb
and eventually take the win for Demetrius. But
then one of Demetrius' boys, who I believe his
name is Kevin, kind of has a change of heart
and stops her from stabbing Caleb. And he just
utters out, love. And then the girl's like, oh,
yeah, yeah, bet. And then throws the knife over
at Demetrius, seemingly killing him. And then
as he's, like, lying down, dying on the floor,
the one who's there to catch him is Jason. Demetrius
looks up at Jason and he's just like, why do
they love you but hate me? And then Jason just,
he explained it. I mean, doing a great job here,
just explaining it, you know, turning, as Kelly
put it, making the text out of subtext and really
just explained, well, I took a bad situation
and, you know, handled it well and you did not.
And my boy died. He doesn't die, by the way,
because I don't think you can die because homeboy
Demetrius turns up in the next scene. This is
a Chewbacca in Rise of Skywalker situation. No,
no, no. So in the first one, they have to be
decapitated. There's a lot of decapitating in
this movie. Oh, okay. We'll roll. So if he got
stabbed, he's just minorly inconvenienced for
a while. Right. And he disappears or something
like that. Like, it's a dramatic death scene
anyway, even though it's already obvious that
he's not dead. Well, I think the thing is, you
want to set up the number three. You want to
set up Vampire Boys 3. I can't wait for the next
episode, which is Vampire Boys 3. Oh, my God.
So, anyway, that's how it all turns out. They
all go their separate ways in the Los Angeles
woods. Very famous. of the Los Angeles area,
and they just go about their separate ways. One
of my favorite parts in this movie, by the way,
is that I'm just going to bring it way back.
You can tell how campy, and not knowing how campy
and shitty their movie was, but there's a scene
that takes place on a bus, like a bus in some
parking lot that was empty, and these two people
try to have sex in it, and this is actually the
first abduction scene that we've... paid witness
to in this movie with Demetrius. So these two
human lovers just going after it in a bus until
they're like, holy shit, someone's outside. So
they run out, they go down the aisle of the bus,
and then they turn and try to get out, but they
can't. So they're like, oh man, we have to go
through the back. So they turn around and go
back. In that shot where they're turning around
and going back, in the driver's seat of a dark
bus, you can clearly see the hand of a camera
operator who is there to take the other angle
of them running down the aisle. It is incredible.
I had to rewind it just to make sure it wasn't
like a vampire hiding who was going to jump out
at them. He was not. He was not. He was a cameraman.
He was just doing his job. You recorded it on
screen. It is one of those things where it's
an easy shot to capture without the cameraman
there. And then you just run the same shot again,
just with the cameraman back in that driver's
seat shot if you want it. And it's incredible.
So many mistakes that were made. And I'm just
like, you know, it blew my mind. how bad of a
movie this was. Like, you had to do this on purpose.
Like, you had to do this on purpose. I just don't
think they cared. I think they literally said,
we're just going to make this movie, and if stuff
happens, stuff happens. We're going to make it
as cheap as possible, and we're just going to
capitalize. And capitalize on Twilight, which
makes me think of, oh, Twilight, there was a
lot of wood scenes. Oh, we need the L .A. woods.
That definitely exists. Right. There's definitely
nature in L .A., but it's not like, oh, let's
go to the woods. Yeah, that type of nature. I
was howling at all the different bugs that we
heard. So is there like a post -credit scene
that does set up the third one? Is there a third
one? That's a great question. There's not a third
one. As far as I know, there's not a third one.
Maybe production has begun, but I doubt it. There's
not a third one. If you joined our podcast for
Vampire Boys coverage, unfortunately this is
where it ends. The train stops here. Yes. Well,
I think what we need to clearly do is a fan -made
Vampire Boys 3, The Unfanging, or I haven't thought
of a better name, Vampire Boys 3 2001 or something
like that. I gotta lose some flab. We just get
a camcorder and go into the woods of New England.
she leaves in sex. And do our best. I need to
lose some flab. Not because I need abs, but because
I need to represent the vampire body, which is
just every man. Yeah, it's the every man look
that you have to go for. I mean, I wouldn't be
in it because this movie doesn't have women.
But, you know. It has one. You would have three
lines of dialogue. No, she has more than three.
Oh, okay. So I'm actually gonna get, like, I
actually get, like, I earn my four sentences
of dialogue rather than like, here, have a paycheck.
You just stood there on the screen. You're a
sexy lamp. That's basically what that trope is.
Women who are in a thing for no reason other
than to look good. Sexy lamp. Hey, we've got
a new merch option there. You're a sexy lamp.
You're a sexy lamp. I mean, it's basically the
female version of the... You play a tree in the
play. You're in a play, you play the tree. Hey,
I was tree number three in like fourth grade.
I was a shrub. Shrub. Some Jewish play I was
in in Hebrew private school. Okay. Yeah, any
of the elementary school plays I've been in,
we never had those roles, thank God. I always
thought that was like a TV thing. It's like,
oh, what? Other kids do this? for it oh no what
i was gonna say is like so when i was tree number
three it was when i was older so the it was like
all right it was probably later than that obviously
i'm joking with this it was like the freshman
play in high school but i was a junior so they
made the older kids do the oh you're tree number
three so that the freshman can get the spotlight
we still needed somebody to do this So, we did
the Phantom Tollbooth. I was the Tollbooth arm.
That was my position, was the Tollbooth arm.
Gotcha. So, in my case, if you've ever seen...
So, like, you know how, like, the Nutcracker
is structured, where it's, like, different age
groups play the different characters that populate
the world? So, like, the Sugar Plums are usually,
like... you know, maybe, like, first and second
graders. I can't think of other characters from
A Nutcracker, but you know how, like, different
age groups play different characters. So in my
case, I was in, like, my Hebrew private school.
I must have been, like, first or kindergarten.
So, like, my age group played plants because
we were doing a play about, like... the seasons
of the year and the Jewish holidays that fall
into each season. So, like, me being a shrub
was not like, oh, we don't know what to do with
your character, so go play inanimate object number
five. It was like, no, this is your age group.
Your age group plays these things. Gotcha. Yeah.
So it was a cast system. Yes. A cast casting
system. A cast casting system. All right, all
right. Guys, I've actually, I looked, okay, before
I get to my rating, Sterling Entertainment is
the group that produced this movie. They have
a website called sterlingmoviefactory .com. And
once you go on it, by the way, Google Chrome
is telling me this is not secure. But the quote
that says, like at the very front in yellow text,
it says, you can make a movie too. And then you
enter the website, and then in the About Us section,
it's telling you that David Sterling is a guy
who produces movies at a micro -budget level.
And the key is to get kids who have not made
their first movie yet and invite them to make
those movies with him. And that is it. This is
a guy who's like, all right, pay me money for
the budget, and then we will make this movie
for you. Mitchell, do you and Kelly want to make
a movie? We had talked about it last night. Vampire
Boys 3! Vampire Boys 3! We could do Vampire Boys...
Honestly, we could probably write a better script
than this. I'm not sure about the rest of the
movie, like if we could overcome the actual physical
production part, but this is hilarious. I like...
I like Vampire Boys 3 The Unfanging. Is there
any better subtitle that we need to include?
I like it, though. I think that we might have
a winner. Honestly, I think we just go from there.
We work from the title on down. What does that
mean? What does that mean to be unfanged? Maybe
to get the vampirism reversed. I think Jason
needs to be turned into a human. He lives a day
as a human and he gets to experience the everyman
life. He gets to go to a Starbucks and they give
him the wrong order. He gets, like, full fat
milk in his dairy -free latte. They spelled Jason...
Yeah, they spelled Jason the right way on the
cup. Well, that works, too. I was thinking, like,
J -A -Y -S -O -N instead of J -A -S -I -N. Jason.
Jason. He plays Heavy Rain, and every time somebody
goes, Jason, he goes... Anyway, like, we're talking
about... I have way too much on my plate, but
if anybody wants to write that, please, I'm in.
I'm with you. Don't tempt me with a good time.
You have idle hands. brewed from 2013. I'm giving
this one a classic Mitchell Zero, and yes, that
is a half star, but I'm going to give this a
half decapitated head because, damn it, they
made a movie. And so can you. And so can you.
You know what this means, though, don't you?
What? Now that I've watched the first one, you've
watched the second one, and we're making the
third one, we have to watch the two for research
of what the storyline is to this point. I agree
with Jill. I'm going to pull on pop culture osmosis.
My love of the mid -2000s hit The Covenant. Because
you know I think the unfangy needs some male
witches. Why not? That's how he gets unfanged.
I love a monster mash. That's how he gets unfanged.
We do not need to do any prior research. If anything,
we don't want... Our artistic vision to be hampered
by what came before and those failures. God damn
it. No, they all made money. According to this
website, every movie this man has produced has
made money. But he's a regular Rumpelstiltskin.
I mean, certain movies make money when the budget
is five bucks. That's it. That's the secret.
That's the secret sauce. I've got to imagine
something like Tsunami made money. China salesmen
definitely made money. It is all about distribution.
Finding the right path for distribution. For
them back in the day, it was those DVD bins in
front of Walmart. And this year, maybe it's Tubi,
maybe it's Pluto TV. I don't know where this
thing could land. On that note, and this is totally
me dragging out this conversation, could they
put this in a Walmart $1 bin because of the nudity?
Oh, that's a good question. the rating on there.
Maybe, because, like, I'm trying to think of
what's usually in those bins, and it's usually,
like, G, PG, PG -13, maybe a few, like, unrated
documentaries, but, like, I didn't think they
put hard R content in those bins. I think I got
Major League 2 from one of those bins, and it's
an R -rated movie. Obviously, it doesn't have
as much nudity, so I'm wondering where the line
is, because I think that's a hard R. Oh, yeah.
But it's not a, like, nudity R. It's a, we say
fuck a few times. Yeah. Mm -hmm. For sure. Normally
what we need to do is go up to our local Targets
and Walmarts and ask them what their criteria
is for, like, what can and can't be binned. I'll
do that. I'm in. I'll ask them and then record
the answer as it happens and we'll put it as
a bonus. Cool. Mike on the street. I love the
new segment. Mike on the street. Oh, God. That'd
be fun. Um... All right, we're going to take
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uh mitchell where's the song oh i know we gotta
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sing it last time and just lyrically i had no
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I'll start. I watched the film on Netflix, I
Care A Lot, which is Rosamund Pike and Peter
Dinklage. Basically, Rosamund Pike plays a caretaker
of old people. As soon as they lose their facilities,
she kind of... puts them in a home, and takes
care of them. Well, what we learn early on in
the film is that she's taking care of them by
putting them in a home, even if they don't need
it, getting sole custody, where they basically
give all their money to her to use. And then
once they die, she uses this money on nice apartments,
good meals, clothes, jewels, whatever. But she
has taken the wrong mother. Because Peter Dinklage
is not happy. Row, row. Yes. Yeah, I was going
to say, I wouldn't want to piss off Peter Dinklage.
Yes. The only thing that I would say is not cash
about this movie is I really didn't care for
the ending. And like we're talking the very,
very end. I think there was a solution that was
already in there that I actually kind of liked.
But then it kept going for an extra five minutes
or whatever it is. Five, ten minutes maybe. That's
the only part I didn't like. And then, I don't
know what it is, but Peter Dinklage holding a
gun is not threatening. He does a lot of threatening
things in this movie, but for whatever reason,
that wasn't. But everything else about this movie,
straight cash. I highly suggest this film. It
was a quick watch for what it was. I think it's
like two hours. And like, it doesn't feel long,
uh, besides maybe that last 10 minutes that's
at the end. Um, but really I, I enjoyed it a
lot. I thought it was pretty good. And, um, the,
uh, love interest for Rosamund Pike is, uh, I'm
going to say this wrong. Aiza Gonzalez, who was
bait or not, uh, um, she was the girlfriend of
John Hamm and Baby Driver. Darling. Darling.
That was her name, Darling. So she was Darling
and Baby Driver and she's excellent in this as
well. Those three are pretty great in this besides
Peter Dinklage holding a gun, which was not threatening.
Is this based on a true story? I don't think
so. If it is, it's the loosest based on a true
story ever because you'll see the plot gets a
little crazy. Not in a bad way, but it gets a
little crazy where I just cannot see that actually
happening in real life. Okay, gotcha. And that's
also starting with the premise of the fact that
she puts people in homes and gets them to sign
over everything to her. Gotcha. Okay, cool. So
we're cash on that. Cash on that. Jill? I have
a new Netflix. mini series so not a film it is
marriage or mortgage where couples are brought
on it's all set in um in and around the nashville
area and they are presented with uh two choices
either their dream home or their dream wedding
and they get to decide and they have um two quippy
people assisting them, a wedding planner and
a real estate agent. So throughout the 45, 43
minute episodes, they're driven around town.
They're shown three houses and three, I don't
want to say three wedding venues because it's
not always like three wedding venues, but like
they give their wish lists for both. And then
they have to decide, take the wedding or take
the marriage. And because I'm secretly a grandma
in a 29 year old's body. Take the wedding or
take the house? You said take the wedding or
take the marriage. Sorry, take the wedding or
take the house. Take both. Take the marriage
or the mortgage. And because I'm secretly, you
know, a grandma in the body of a 29 -year -old,
I watch this show while I cross -stitch because
it's really easy just to have on in the background.
And I'm going to say, like, it's trash. I can't
sit here and tell you this is the next Queer
Eye. You're not going to cry and feel good about
yourself because their lives have been so vastly
improved by houses and weddings that they're
still paying for, by the way. They're not being
given these things. Oh, what? No. They come in
with a budget, so they present how much they're
ready to put aside for a mortgage and how much
they're ready to put aside for a wedding. Wedding
budgets range from the mid - double digits thousand
so like 15 000 20 000 33 000 and then they have
the money that they set aside for the mortgage
um you know 300 or 400 495 000 so like they're
not getting these things for free but watching
it play out you're thinking well duh you take
the goddamn house every time every time that
is wealth that's going to accumulate over time
for that couple and you know Yeah, and a lot
of them are young, too. They're like in their
early, you know, mid -20s, late -20s, early -30s.
So it's like, get the house. So when would you
ever take the wedding, Jill? So the only time
that I would take the wedding is if I was older
and I probably could find a house with my partner.
Hopefully there's a partner. I guess the thing
that really picks it apart for me, because I've
thought about it for too long, is that if you
have a really good real estate agent, you could
still probably find these properties. But it's,
like, the connections that the wedding planner
and the real estate agent have that, like, get
to bring down the costs. So, like, the time that
I would take the wedding is, I'm slightly older.
I could probably still find a house in my price
range, because my price range to start off with
is rather good. So I'm willing to put down $495
,000 on a mortgage versus $290 ,000, especially
depending on the area. But the wedding planner,
depending on what you're asking, she, at least
in the show, seems to have a lot of connections
where she's convincing a band that's really hard
to book to play at a discounted rate or talking
to entertainment venues to throw in... extra
features like valet parking and the bar for free
they just have to pay for the catering so the
food um there was like a one couple who wanted
to have like trolley cars to get people transported
but it was going to be very very expensive for
that so that she was able to convince the company
to give them the free trolley cars things like
that it was like all these little extra perks
that like bring down that cost considerably that's
when i would take the wedding where it's like
This is really like a $45 ,000 wedding, but I'm
only spending like $25 ,000 because of these
discounts. Sure, I'll take the wedding. And I
think it makes sense if you're older in that,
you know, if you're young and you get a house
and you can actually enjoy the fact that it's
going to hit a certain value, you're going to
cash in. And if you're older, like in your 50s
getting married, then you don't necessarily have
that same. thing to look forward to unless you
have someone to pass it down but you know yeah
i think the wedding and having that dream wedding
that you didn't have in your 20s that'd be awesome
to get so that i understand yeah so i want to
say i wish there was a mid -range of cash to
trash so it's like it's hot trash this is reality
tv that's fair i think it's cool that netflix
is really up their game from the reality tv standpoint
because that's like that's something that's obviously
just been sitting there on cable for a long time
being yeah and now they're getting into the game
with a big budget and it seems it seems like
people are watching these things which is cool
this is their um i think say i do there's another
one that was like uh weddings so like couples
who want to get married but they don't have the
money to do so in that case three guys um show
up and they put on the wedding and like in that
case i think a lot of money is getting saved
on the situation of that move show i will say
one thing the show was probably filmed in the
summer of 2019 maybe the fall of 2019 so for
anyone who picked that wedding it definitely
did not happen as anticipated in 2020 so more
so take that house because so glad we got married
in 2019 yeah because if you're you know yay i
i got my dream wedding but now covid's happened
i don't even want to think about the logistics
of like there's some of the people who may have
just kind of been like we're not supposed to
have a gathering but we're still gonna do it
anyway because gosh darn it i'm gonna have this
dream wedding yeah I'm really happy. I will never
be, hopefully, in that situation where I have
to pick. That's cool. But it's just kind of funny.
You're the ones who picked the wedding where
they're like, yeah, and then COVID happened,
so what was the point? Right. Yeah. Geez. Yeah.
So half trash, half cash. Half trash, half cash.
Okay. We do need to find something in the middle
that's like hot trash or like... I mean, and
that's what this is. This is hot, entertaining
trash. Yeah. Mitchell, what do you got for Cash
or Trash? Yes, it's not a movie. It's actually
a Netflix docuseries called Last Chance U. And
the new season came out, and it's all about a
JUCO basketball team, East Los Angeles College.
And primarily for those who are already familiar
with the title Last Chance U, the previous seasons
on Netflix have focused on junior colleges with
football programs. This one in particular is
focused on basketball. It's the first one to
do that for the series. And I think they did
a fantastic job. picking the perfect team to
follow. It's everything from the coach, Coach
Mosley, who is half preacher, half head coach,
who's a guy who could be coaching at the Division
I level. They both show you and they bring people
in to further contextualize that this guy knows
what he's doing, and he could be at a Pac -12
school, he could be at a Big West school or wherever,
but he is choosing to stay at the junior college
level, and he has for, at this point in the series,
eight years. of his career because he feels called
by God to guide these kids who are going through
really rough times. The junior college route
in college basketball is a last resort for so
many of these athletes. We get stories from all
different backgrounds of people who were Division
I athletes at Penn State, but because of injury
and falling into certain vices like smoking and
just overeating and stuff. lost a scholarship,
and now they're in a position to claw their way
back into Division I athletics. And then you
had folks who were fantastic athletes in high
school but were pulling sub -2 .0 GPAs and couldn't
get an offer because they didn't have the grades.
And then you had other kids who had criminal
charges against them. It's just a whole other
bag where we had kids during the season that
this docuseries is taking place in who had court
hearings to go to. It's a wild, wild canvas of
different. characters and players who are involved
here and the guy lynch pinning it all together
is coach mosley who don't get me wrong could
be an absolute asshole at times but it's all
coming from a good place and from the end you
know from the beginning to the end of this thing
you can tell what his objective is and damn it
i mean he is able to have these kids realize
the best in themselves and for the most part
there's a happy ending for most of these kids
And that's something where last chance you football
doesn't quite have that because football, there's
this more injury in play, all that kind of stuff.
There are more players to keep track of. But
with basketball, you know, they really just took
a handful of kids. And you get your 12, 11, whatever
it is, probably like. Yeah, yeah, that's it.
And they really they chose the right. players
to focus on in particular. And it's funny, as
a sports fan, I didn't know that I was seeing
some of these players actually already play at
the Division I level after this documentary series
was done taping. There's a guy named Joe Hampton.
I'm a UC Santa Barbara fan. I went there, and
they play Long Beach State in the Big West. Fred
Hampton, or excuse me, Joe Hampton. Fred Hampton's
from Judas and the Black Messiah. Joe Hampton.
was a guy who was playing on Long Beach City.
He was a starting power forward for them. And
I'm like, oh, my God, he was a last chance to
you. And it's crazy to see these guys actually
be at the next level. So it's great to see their
backstories and stuff. This is absolute cash.
Open up the bank vault. Give me all the money
in there. This is the most cash that I could
ever ask for in a docuseries. I binged it in
only a couple days. It's a great ride. And the
heartbreaking thing is this. I was watching this
series and completely just swept up in, are they
going to make the playoffs? What seat are they
going to get? Are they going to win the championship?
And then there's an episode where Kobe dies.
And then I realized, oh, no, COVID's coming.
And they don't know it. And how the team deals
with that is incredible. Wow. This is crazy.
One, the storytelling is phenomenal in that respect.
It's how they plant different seeds like that
strategically throughout the series. And also...
This is a documentary, but from a pure cinematography
point of view, the way they shoot these basketball
games, especially the home games where I think
just the crew was given more reign to do stuff,
it is great storytelling from just a pure basketball
us versus them mentality that, frankly, I don't
think I have seen in a basketball movie since,
I don't know, He Got Game immediately comes to
mind, but from a documentary point of view. You're
looking at this. You're looking at The Last Dance.
You're looking at Hoop Dreams. I think this movie,
from a cinematography point of view, captures
the game the best. And that's including The Last
Dance, which I think is the best basketball documentary
that I've ever seen. Maybe a top five. overall
for me i will i will also say with last dance
they didn't know what they were doing at that
point to record the games kind of thing yeah
it frankly it's an nba game so yeah the access
that you would have at a junior college yeah
versus an nba it's night and day yeah right the
junior college is like yeah whatever you want
you want this angle okay we'll move players off
the bench for you like yeah and frankly the camera
technology is you know that was filmed in the
late 90s. Now here we have phantom cams and all
this kind of stuff. The slow -mo shots are gorgeous.
Yeah, storytelling is fantastic. They did a great
job of researching this school, why this is the
school that deserved a last chance U treatment.
And it's just a great ride. It's a great ride.
So that's East Los Angeles College. So this is
– it's funny. I was a sports info director before
coming to my current job. And at UC Santa Barbara,
we took in a lot of – in the Big West in general,
we take a lot of junior college transfers to
join the men's Division I teams. And one of the
teams that you would see consistently in a roster
is East Los Angeles College. And this is – so
this is a program that in California certainly
is known for doing this. And it's because – of
Coach Mosley. So it's very cool. And even if
you're not a sports fan, I think a lot of people
could take a lot of really cool, you know, just
buckle up for the ride kind of experience from
it. And I highly, highly recommend it. Cash.
Cool. Cash. Cool. That'll do it for episode 31
of Game for a Movie. I have been your host, Mike,
joined by... Jill. And Mitchell. We will have...
this revealed after episode 30. I know it was
kind of weird because we recorded it first. But,
you know, that's just sometimes how it happens.
Andre will be back for us for 30 and then hopefully
32. We'll see after that. Or 30 Screw. 30 Screw.
Oh, nice. Alright. I celebrated a friend's 30
Screw birthday. Oh, that's good. No, that's good.
Yeah. Well, you can. We're looking forward to
episode 30 Screw. Yeah, that's... Maybe we'll
also be doing Vampire Boys 3. Well, we'll circle
back to Vampire Boys 3, unfanged. Yes, unfanged.
Yes. Cool. So this is Game for a Movie where
we ask, are you game for a movie? We'll see you
next time. Bye -bye. Bye. It's cash or trash?
Cash or trash? Will it wear a sash? Or give you
a... It's cash or trash.