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You know what that sound means? It's another

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episode of the Game for a Movie podcast where

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we ask, are you game for a movie? My name is

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Mike. I'll be your host tonight. We have a special

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Father's Day episode, and just like me, Father's

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Day has to be late, of course, because I never

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get anything right on the holidays. I never get

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it done in time. So this one's only like a week

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late compared to my Mother's Day episode, which

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was three weeks late, I think, maybe even four

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weeks late. So at least I... Kind of put a hurry

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on this one, I'll say. I have a plan already

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for 4th of July, so hopefully I can get that

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done on time this time. We'll see about that,

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though, because, you know, time gets away from

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you and everything like that. Being that it is

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a Father's Day episode, we have a specific Father's

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-related movie. And, of course, we also have

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a beer. Today, we are drinking... the juice angler

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from one of my favorite breweries that i like

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to frequent it is untamed waters it is in fort

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mill south carolina i know we moved to north

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carolina i always joke because we're right on

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the border that i do my drinking in south carolina

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and i've been to untamed waters i don't know

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probably a thousand times at this point but it

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is one of my favorite places to go to it's a

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chill atmosphere good beer And I usually end

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up leaving, making a friend or two. So that's

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what's nice about Untamed Waters right there

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in Fort Mill, South Carolina. It is also the

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place where I came up with the idea to do a Mother's

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Day and Father's Day edition this year. So that

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should also take credit for why you have this

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episode now in front of you. Speaking of that

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Father's Day movie, let's talk about it. It is

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the movie Father Figures which technically came

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out in 2017. It's marked as a 2018 movie but

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technically it came out in 2017. I know that's

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a little weird because it did come out December

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22nd. The one thing that Father Figures definitely

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has going for it, it has a phenomenal cast. We've

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got Ed Helms and Owen Wilson playing the two

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leads. Their mother is played by Glenn Close.

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We've got Terry Bradshaw, of all people, with

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Ving Rhames, J .K. Simmons, Cat Williams, June

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Squibb, Katie Aselton, Ali Wong, and Christopher

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Walken, to close it out. I don't know about you,

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but on paper, this movie should have been a lot

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better than it was. And I will also give it,

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it's not one of the worst movies I've seen. It's

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not great. I don't recommend it to anybody. But

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I've seen a lot worse movies than this one. This

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was the directorial debut of Lawrence Schur.

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You may recognize that name not because of the

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actual movies he's directed, but because he's

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been the head cinematographer on things like

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Joker, Godzilla, King of the Monsters, Garden

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State, The Hangover. The list goes on and on.

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He actually has 50 great credits worth of director

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of photography or cinematographer. this dude

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is a hot commodity in hollywood so don't get

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me wrong i'm going to shit on this movie but

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this is his directorial debut and he is known

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for a lot more a lot of other things father figures

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was written by justin malan uh he has had some

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credits as well he's the head writer Screenplay

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by for Office Christmas Party. Father figures,

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obviously. Yes Day. And, of course, one of the

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favorite ones I like to talk about on the show,

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Clifford the Big Red Dog. He also is writing

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the earlier script for Bad Teacher 2. Yes, that

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may be a thing that actually happens in the future.

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Bad Teacher 2 might be coming. When Malin finished

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the script, it was sold less than two days after

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being pitched. That is an impressive 36 hours.

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And it was originally titled Bastards, but about

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three months before release of the movie, they

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decided to change it to Father Figures instead.

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Probably because it had a nice December Christmas

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window that, I don't know, maybe your kids don't

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want to see that there's a movie called Bastards

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coming out. This movie was nominated for one

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award, and that nomination was for Trashiest

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Trailer by the Golden Trailer Awards. They didn't

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win, but... they were nominated for Trassiest

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Trailer. So, you know, there's that. A quick

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synopsis before I jump into the main details

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of this movie. Upon learning that their mother

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has been lying to them for years about their

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allegedly deceased father, fraternal twin brothers

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hit the road to search for him. Our twin brothers

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are played by Owen Wilson and Ed Helms, and the

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mother is Glenn Close. I think I've said that

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before, but just so you have an idea who we're

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dealing with to start it off. So without further

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ado, let's get into the movie. Of course, we

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start with a prostate joke, and that is the kind

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of humor that we're really being set up for.

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Ed Helms is a doctor, and more specifically,

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the kind of doctor that sticks his finger up

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people's butts for a living. He's not a great

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father, and he's possibly an alcoholic. We've

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learned this in the first two minutes of this

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movie. His character's name is Peter, and we

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learn that he needs to loosen up. He needs to...

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Calm down and not be so uptight. You know, the

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typical Ed Helms stereotype that he goes for

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in these movies. His brother Owen Wilson, named

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Kyle in this movie, got his image on a bottle

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of barbecue sauce that is selling everywhere.

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So, basically, he has a lot of money, but he's

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like this surfer, laid -back kind of guy. You

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know, the odd couple that we have to start off

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this movie. Their mother is getting married,

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which is bringing them both together. Peter brings

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his son to the wedding and Kyle doesn't remember

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Peter's kid because it's been like four years.

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So, you know, Kyle, that laid back surfer type

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kind of focused on himself, doesn't remember

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his brother's kid because he just doesn't care.

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It's not about him, that kind of thing. Obviously,

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at this point, we can already guess that Kyle

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is going to teach Peter kind of the way back

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and Peter is going to teach Kyle something about

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caring about others or something like that. After

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the wedding, Peter is relaxing and he is watching

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Law & Order SVU. And he recognizes that their

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father might still be alive because of this episode.

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And he just has this feeling that their father

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is alive somehow. Glenn Close, the mother that

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is getting married this weekend, her name is

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Helen in this movie. She reveals that she lied

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about their father and this is the crux of the

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movie. They are going to go out and they're going

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to find their dad. Couple lines that I wrote

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down because of this. It was the 70s. You have

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to understand the priority was smoking weed and

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fucking. And then Peter goes, I stare at assholes

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all day long because of dad's colon cancer, which

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the dad might never have had. So we've learned

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that Peter's kind of modeled his whole life off

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of his dad's potential colon cancer. And his

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assistant is Donna from Parks and Rec. She's

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kind of convincing him that. It's okay, like,

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you still are successful, that kind of stuff,

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and also kind of pushing along that maybe they

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should go and find their dad. After a while of

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trying to get her to admit who the dad might

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be, because she doesn't even really know, it

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could be potentially multiple people, because

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again, the priority was smoking weed and fucking,

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Helen throws out the name Terry Bradshaw, and

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we learn that Peter loves Terry Bradshaw, like,

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it's an idol of his that Terry Bradshaw And especially

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that he might be his father. Peter is all but

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gung ho now to go figure out how to find Terry

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Bradshaw. So Peter's ready to take a road trip

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and he's going to go to Tampa because that is

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where Terry Bradshaw is. He's opening a car dealership

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and he's doing like a meet and greet. So if they

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get down to Tampa, they can meet up with him

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and tell him that he's their dad. And I say them

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because originally it was just going to be Peter.

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But Kyle's just kind of like, the universe is

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telling me to go on this trip. I want to go.

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The universe is telling me we have this mission

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now. So Kyle convinces Peter that they can go

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together. They get the first ticket they can

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to fly to Tampa. And by the way, they spend an

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exorbitant amount of money, which is no problem

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because Kyle's obviously the face of this. best

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-selling barbecue sauce kind of thing so it's

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not a big deal but it's just if I were to sit

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there and do the math of all the traveling they

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do in this like two -week period I got to imagine

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it's somewhere in the like low 20 ,000s at least

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at least so they get on the plane and the flight

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attendant starts flirting with Peter and it's

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like very obvious flirting and that kind of stuff

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And Peter just kind of biffs it. He just kind

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of shoots it down and messes it up. And Kyle's

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like, what the hell, man? Like she was obviously

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flirting with you. You're divorced. It's fine.

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You can totally have sex with this woman. Peter

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admits that he's only had sex with one person

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and he's still kind of like not over her exactly,

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especially because it is the mother of her children

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or child, I guess I should say. So now the mission

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has changed a little bit. The top mission is

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meeting dad. Second mission is getting Pete laid.

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And the third mission is stone crabs. This is

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what Kyle's priorities are. They go to this Terry

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Bradshaw dealership that just opened up. They

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get to the front of the line. Kyle is confused

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as a special fan. Again, this is the kind of

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humor that we're dealing with in this movie.

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And they ask Terry if he remembers Helen Reynolds.

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And basically Terry just like is euphoric talking

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about like, oh. Helen Reynolds yeah she's so

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sexual she's so this that going through all of

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the sexual features and both of them are just

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sitting there kind of like cringing and everything

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like that and they reveal to him that Helen is

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their mom and that he may be their father and

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Terry at first is kind of like no no no I couldn't

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be no no no then he starts thinking about it

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and goes Well, maybe. And now he's happy. He

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is elated and realizes they might be his sons.

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And so I say movie over, right? This is great

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because Terry is happy. He takes a loving to

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Peter right off the bat. Kyle, not so much. He's

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feeling a little lesser, but it's okay because

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they've found their dad. So he takes them to

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his house and says, like, you guys got to come

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over for dinner. My wife will cook, everything

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like that. And so Terry and Peter drive like

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this super fast car that Peter gets to drive.

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And basically Kyle is left to follow them in

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like a shit box car that they just rented. Terry

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opens the door with Peter and walking in, talking

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to his wife and the wife's like asking the right

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questions about random people coming to the house,

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like saying they're Terry Bradshaw's kids. I

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got to imagine some of these people are probably

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like in real life. Terry Bradshaw, you're my

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dad. I could use some money, that kind of stuff.

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And so like, she's just asking, she's just, are

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you sure these are your kids? Are you sure they're

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not coming to ask for money? And Terry goes,

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Peter, do you like need some money or anything

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like that? And he goes, oh no, no, no. I'm like

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a famous doctor. I'm good. You know, that kind

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of stuff. And Terry goes, he's a doctor. I told

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you, these are my kids. This is good people.

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We're good. So they're like passing the football

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back and forth, you know, doing the things that

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dad and son would do and everything like that.

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And Terry throws one to Kyle and all of a sudden

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out of nowhere, Ving Rhames, who was playing

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Rod Hamilton, tackles Kyle to the ground in the

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sand. Rod Hamilton is a famous linebacker that

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played with Terry is what the idea in this movie

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is. And he's moved in next door because he didn't

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want to leave Terry. budding bromance but really

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they're just they're good friends and everything

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like that after the catch and everything like

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that they're all talking catching up and it comes

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out uh terry asks rod do you remember helen reynolds

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and he's oh helen reynolds oh we had we had this

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we had that we had this and terry goes yeah uh

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these are her boys and he goes all we did was

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cuddle word It just made me laugh because that

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one was a good delivery by Ving Rhames. If you

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don't know, I'm actually a big Ving Rhames fan.

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I think he's funny as hell. He has great wit

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and everything like that. If you don't remember

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the Piranha 3DD episode, Ving Rhames was probably

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one of my favorite parts of that movie. I love

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Ving Rhames. That dude does no wrong. But then

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Rod brings up, because he finds out the birthdays

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of the boys, he brings up... That that couldn't

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have happened because Terry was in Australia

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recording an album and Helen didn't have a passport.

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So she couldn't go with. So in the time of conception,

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that kind of thing and doing the math, there's

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no way Terry could be their father. And he's

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just like, oh, you're right. You're right. And

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Terry's actually a little disappointed. And it's

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kind of it's kind of a touching thing because

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Terry wanted to be fathers to these boys. Even

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though he keeps calling Kyle the wrong name.

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He keeps calling him Donald. But, you know, he

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does, like, want to be in these boys' lives.

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And it's kind of a nice moment when he's, like,

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saying goodbye and everything like that. And

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they realize now there's another guy that it

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might be. It's this guy, Roland. She was seeing

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this guy, Roland, sometimes. And I don't remember

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how they get the last name. But they get it somehow.

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And they figure out where Roland lives. basically

00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:06.460
kyle says it's the universe telling them things

00:14:06.460 --> 00:14:08.820
that this wasn't the stop but maybe this roland

00:14:08.820 --> 00:14:13.679
guy is roland is played by jk simmons we're going

00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:15.600
to get to him in a little bit but just so you

00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:17.639
know ahead of time that it's this jk simmons

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is roland so the brothers are driving up to go

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to roland now and roland lives I want to say

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New York. I didn't write it down exactly, but

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I want to say somewhere in New York, like upstate

00:14:31.940 --> 00:14:33.840
New York. It's supposed to be a nicer area, that

00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:35.659
kind of thing. And the only reason I say this

00:14:35.659 --> 00:14:37.759
is because they end up in Worcester, Massachusetts,

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and it wasn't far out of their way is part of

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what they bring up. This part of their journey

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involves a lot more driving. So they end up at

00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:57.679
a stop off to go to the bathroom. And Kyle's

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in there. And then there's a guy obviously taking

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a shit. And his son's in there with him. And

00:15:02.740 --> 00:15:06.980
his son crawls under and starts peeing on Kyle.

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And basically, the dad's just kind of like, oh,

00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:12.659
oh, you got to pee on him back. So he learns

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to stop it and everything like that. And so they

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start a pee war, essentially, where they're peeing

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on each other. And Kyle's phone goes off. And

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he's just like, hold on a second. Hold on. I'm

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peeing on a kid. I'm sorry, what? I'm peeing

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on a kid. Okay. The phone call is the guy who

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created the barbecue sauce. And basically he

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said they want to go a different direction than

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Kyle. So Kyle is no longer the face of the barbecue

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sauce brand. He doesn't reveal this to Peter

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because it's just gotta, you know, there's gotta

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be some drama in the movie that gets revealed

00:15:51.629 --> 00:15:53.509
later. You can't just tell them about your problems

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right off the bat. Plus he doesn't want to derail

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Peter because they're on this mission as loving

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brothers to figure out who their father is. So

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as they're driving down the street of where Roland

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supposedly lives, there's all these nice houses.

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And then finally they get to one that's a little

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like, it's not a bad house, but it's gotten a

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little decrepit. Like they have not been caring

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for it. And they're wondering if Roland actually

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lives here anymore. They knock on the door and

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they're like having a conversation waiting for

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Roland to answer the door. And all of a sudden,

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Roland appears holding a gun at Peter's head.

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He thinks that he's about to get robbed, that

00:16:33.769 --> 00:16:35.970
somebody thought, oh, this house looks like the

00:16:35.970 --> 00:16:38.149
winning ticket and we're going to get robbed

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and everything like that. And so like Peter's

00:16:40.389 --> 00:16:43.070
just like, ah, no, no, no, no, no. We we may

00:16:43.070 --> 00:16:44.889
be your sons. We may be your sons. And Roland's

00:16:44.889 --> 00:16:46.950
just like, what? You go, you remember Helen Reynolds?

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And he goes, oh, Helen. Yeah. Yeah, I remember

00:16:50.059 --> 00:16:52.879
her. Oh, my God. She's so sexual. She's so this.

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You know, this is a common joke throughout the

00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:57.980
whole thing and everything. And then reveals

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they may be your sons. So he just, like, lets

00:17:02.220 --> 00:17:03.919
them go. He's just like, oh, okay, come on in.

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And he hands Peter the gun because, as he quotes,

00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:10.259
I don't like holding it. And so Peter now has

00:17:10.259 --> 00:17:15.400
a gun that he just walks in with. so roland's

00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:17.920
mother comes downstairs he lives with his mother

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and she's freaking out because she sees peter

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with the gun and is going oh my god we're getting

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robbed roland and he freaks out and grabs another

00:17:24.460 --> 00:17:26.779
gun to which peter just like holds the gun up

00:17:26.779 --> 00:17:29.099
and is just like uh what no no you handed this

00:17:29.099 --> 00:17:31.059
to me no we might be your sons we might be your

00:17:31.059 --> 00:17:33.319
sons he goes oh yeah yeah that's right that's

00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:38.630
right and puts the gun away and uh Roland's mother

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is played by June Squibb, who you've probably

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seen in something somewhere down the line. She

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has so many credits, I'm not going to name them

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all. But she's basically, nowadays, she's basically

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the old lady in every movie you've seen, probably.

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And just this year alone, she's been in Don't

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Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead, two episodes

00:18:01.549 --> 00:18:05.130
of Velma as an older woman. She was Thelma in

00:18:05.130 --> 00:18:07.730
the movie Thelma. and she was Nostalgia and Inside

00:18:07.730 --> 00:18:11.910
Out 2. She's also got three other movies or TV

00:18:11.910 --> 00:18:15.690
shows coming out that are upcoming, and she has

00:18:15.690 --> 00:18:18.690
98 other credits. So June Squibb you've definitely

00:18:18.690 --> 00:18:22.470
seen somewhere down the line. Amazing actress.

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She's a bit part in this one, I'll say. And so

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is J .K. Simmons, just so we're clear. Roland

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at first is convinced they can't be his sons,

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but he's basically... going along with their

00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:39.019
stuff and everything like that and peter and

00:18:39.019 --> 00:18:40.920
kyle are insistent they're just like no you knew

00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:43.880
helen reynolds like you were together at this

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point in time there's a chance you might be our

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father roland goes and sniffs both of them like

00:18:49.980 --> 00:18:57.980
gives them a big and then he walks away and freaks

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out in the other room because he's certain now

00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:04.039
they are his kids and he's just freaking out

00:19:05.549 --> 00:19:10.589
And so after he freaks out, his mother convinces

00:19:10.589 --> 00:19:12.670
him to go back out there and talk to them about

00:19:12.670 --> 00:19:15.170
their relationship and everything like that.

00:19:15.329 --> 00:19:18.089
So Roland takes them down to the basement where,

00:19:18.130 --> 00:19:20.230
of course, there are creepy mannequins everywhere.

00:19:20.849 --> 00:19:23.670
He makes them open a box and immediately Peter

00:19:23.670 --> 00:19:26.329
drops the box because it contains a rat. And

00:19:26.329 --> 00:19:29.269
Roland goes, sorry, that's the wrong box. The

00:19:29.269 --> 00:19:32.869
right box has pictures of Roland and Helen together,

00:19:33.049 --> 00:19:40.130
both very happy. And Peter says, you don't have

00:19:40.130 --> 00:19:43.190
to tell us how amazing a fuck she was. And Roland's

00:19:43.190 --> 00:19:44.730
just kind of looking at them and goes, she's

00:19:44.730 --> 00:19:51.009
the only woman I ever loved. And so they kind

00:19:51.009 --> 00:19:54.250
of feel for this guy because he actually cares

00:19:54.250 --> 00:19:56.049
about their mother and everything like that.

00:19:56.190 --> 00:19:59.529
And so even though he's a little strange, they're

00:19:59.529 --> 00:20:01.470
willing to go along with him and everything.

00:20:02.309 --> 00:20:06.660
Roland has a job that he is a repo man. He has

00:20:06.660 --> 00:20:09.759
to go get this car that wasn't paid for by this

00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:15.059
rich guy. And so he takes the boys with him to

00:20:15.059 --> 00:20:17.740
help him do this repo job, just more so to get

00:20:17.740 --> 00:20:21.720
to know them, that kind of stuff. As they get

00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:24.380
there, the husband and wife who own the car pull

00:20:24.380 --> 00:20:28.059
in, and they're obviously trying to repo the

00:20:28.059 --> 00:20:33.259
very nice car. He says that he has the repo papers

00:20:33.259 --> 00:20:35.930
in his car. That the boys just don't let him

00:20:35.930 --> 00:20:38.589
leave in the car. He'll go get the papers, show

00:20:38.589 --> 00:20:40.509
it to the guy, and then they'll be on their way.

00:20:41.049 --> 00:20:43.509
So the boys are holding the car and basically

00:20:43.509 --> 00:20:45.970
watching to make sure that nobody does anything

00:20:45.970 --> 00:20:50.869
stupid. Roland is really running away. He is

00:20:50.869 --> 00:20:53.910
like, there's no way that he's their father and

00:20:53.910 --> 00:20:59.009
he just doesn't care. And on the passenger seat

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just happens to be the box of the pictures. And

00:21:01.190 --> 00:21:04.769
he looks at them and he feels bad. And he comes

00:21:04.769 --> 00:21:09.269
back to help the boys. The owner comes out with

00:21:09.269 --> 00:21:12.589
a gun and starts firing at them. So the boys

00:21:12.589 --> 00:21:15.609
get in the car and they basically are like trying

00:21:15.609 --> 00:21:17.470
to get the hell out of Dodge. They pull away

00:21:17.470 --> 00:21:20.529
and Roland is walking back. And of course they

00:21:20.529 --> 00:21:25.470
run over Roland. And he loses a lot of blood,

00:21:25.589 --> 00:21:29.369
like a lot of blood. And he also is getting arrested.

00:21:29.730 --> 00:21:33.019
So they're in the hospital like. checking with

00:21:33.019 --> 00:21:36.400
him, making sure he's okay. And basically we're

00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:38.400
like calling him out. Like, why did you let this

00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:40.359
happen? And he's like, I don't know. I just,

00:21:40.460 --> 00:21:42.539
I, I didn't want to be a dad. I don't want to

00:21:42.539 --> 00:21:45.359
be your dad, everything like that. And the nurse

00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:49.779
goes, he isn't your dad. He, we have his blood

00:21:49.779 --> 00:21:52.440
type. There's no way that you two are the blood

00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:57.839
types you are. And he has this blood type. There's

00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:02.130
just no way. And also he admits. That there's

00:22:02.130 --> 00:22:04.970
no way they could have been his. Because he did

00:22:04.970 --> 00:22:07.809
his first stint in prison around the time that

00:22:07.809 --> 00:22:11.730
they would have been conceived. But he does have

00:22:11.730 --> 00:22:16.589
an idea of who their father might have been.

00:22:17.230 --> 00:22:18.950
But he's not going to tell them unless they pay

00:22:18.950 --> 00:22:23.369
him $1 ,000. Peter walks away. He's like, no,

00:22:23.430 --> 00:22:25.349
I'm not doing this anymore. We're done. This

00:22:25.349 --> 00:22:27.329
is over. This mission's over. Everything like

00:22:27.329 --> 00:22:29.309
that. Kyle, of course, sticks around and pays

00:22:29.309 --> 00:22:35.019
Roland $680. For the name Sparkly P. So Sparkly

00:22:35.019 --> 00:22:39.900
P. Could be their father. They're basically.

00:22:40.660 --> 00:22:44.680
Ready to call it quits. Essentially. Even though

00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:46.640
they've got the name Sparkly P. Now they don't

00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:48.900
know. Where to go from there. Because how can

00:22:48.900 --> 00:22:52.200
you figure out from Sparkly P. And Peter is fuck

00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:54.140
the universe. This entire time it's been telling

00:22:54.140 --> 00:22:57.500
us to shut down. Operation Hoosier Daddy. Which

00:22:57.500 --> 00:22:59.019
I thought was a funny line. Because now it's

00:22:59.019 --> 00:23:02.740
Operation Hoosier Daddy. So now they're going

00:23:02.740 --> 00:23:05.740
to drive back to Ohio. Apparently this movie

00:23:05.740 --> 00:23:08.299
took place in Ohio or they're from Ohio or something

00:23:08.299 --> 00:23:09.900
like that. I didn't know that, but apparently

00:23:09.900 --> 00:23:12.819
that's where they are. So they're about to drive

00:23:12.819 --> 00:23:17.940
home to Ohio and they make eye contact with a

00:23:17.940 --> 00:23:20.480
hitchhiker. This hitchhiker is Cat Williams.

00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:26.299
Cat Williams wants to go to Worcester, Massachusetts

00:23:26.299 --> 00:23:29.529
because that's where his family is. basically

00:23:29.529 --> 00:23:31.470
they come to a conclusion they can get him to

00:23:31.470 --> 00:23:35.730
the train station but peter of course is worried

00:23:35.730 --> 00:23:38.109
that he's a serial killer and so they're having

00:23:38.109 --> 00:23:39.930
this whole conversation and like cat williams

00:23:39.930 --> 00:23:44.130
is like i'm not a serial killer and like okay

00:23:44.130 --> 00:23:48.390
that you're emphasizing the wrong word here and

00:23:48.390 --> 00:23:50.809
this whole scene is kind of like awkward that

00:23:50.809 --> 00:23:53.170
kind of stuff because he could just say repeatedly

00:23:53.170 --> 00:23:56.029
i'm not a killer or something like that and so

00:23:56.029 --> 00:24:01.259
they grab like The jumper cables they have in

00:24:01.259 --> 00:24:03.460
the car and they tie him up so he can't kill

00:24:03.460 --> 00:24:06.160
them, but they can get him to the train station.

00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:09.619
Cat Williams doing his best. Cat Williams is

00:24:09.619 --> 00:24:11.660
listening to their problems. And basically it

00:24:11.660 --> 00:24:14.799
started this whole fight. Peter is upset because

00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:16.779
Kyle is perfect. He's never worked a day in his

00:24:16.779 --> 00:24:18.779
life. He's always gotten everything handed to

00:24:18.779 --> 00:24:20.539
him. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Kyle's just

00:24:20.539 --> 00:24:22.920
like, you've chosen your life. You've made your

00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:28.829
own bad decisions. It gets so bad that they stop

00:24:28.829 --> 00:24:30.630
the car and they get into a little slap fight.

00:24:31.710 --> 00:24:35.130
And Cat Williams realizes they've parked on a

00:24:35.130 --> 00:24:40.089
2 -2 train track to have this fight. And so a

00:24:40.089 --> 00:24:42.609
train's coming. And they're so focused on their

00:24:42.609 --> 00:24:44.170
slap fight, they're not getting out and everything

00:24:44.170 --> 00:24:47.470
like that. Finally, Cat Williams is like, guys,

00:24:47.470 --> 00:24:49.589
guys, guys, there's a train coming. 2 -2 train

00:24:49.589 --> 00:24:53.930
coming. 2 -2 train coming. And Peter gets out.

00:24:54.029 --> 00:24:57.680
He's able to get Cat Williams out. Kyle is struggling

00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:03.180
with his seatbelt, and the car gets hit by the

00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:07.039
train. It gets absolutely just eviscerated, and

00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:09.059
we don't know what happened to Kyle. We think

00:25:09.059 --> 00:25:12.480
he may have died at this point. Obviously, Kyle's

00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:16.119
going to be okay, right? Obviously. My thing

00:25:16.119 --> 00:25:19.039
was I'm more shocked by that Cat Williams, the

00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.940
hitchhiker, didn't die. I thought for sure that

00:25:21.940 --> 00:25:24.039
was going to be the end of his bit. He was going

00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:26.589
to be stuck in there, and it was like, oh. sucks

00:25:26.589 --> 00:25:31.329
sorry but kyle survives and they all embrace

00:25:31.329 --> 00:25:34.470
and they have like everything's forgiven and

00:25:34.470 --> 00:25:36.829
so they're just like oh this is great but then

00:25:36.829 --> 00:25:40.069
kyle winds back and punches peter to feel better

00:25:40.069 --> 00:25:43.309
he's like oh you could have had me die all right

00:25:43.309 --> 00:25:48.210
cool so now they're sitting there waiting on

00:25:48.210 --> 00:25:50.069
the cops to talk about everything and everything

00:25:50.069 --> 00:25:52.769
like that the cops are interviewing hitchhiker

00:25:52.769 --> 00:25:54.670
cat williams while he's still tied up by the

00:25:54.670 --> 00:25:57.410
way he's still wrapped up and everything like

00:25:57.410 --> 00:26:05.849
that and kyle tells peter that he's not the barbecue

00:26:05.849 --> 00:26:07.809
sponsor anymore he's not the face of the barbecue

00:26:07.809 --> 00:26:11.309
company he also thinks that he might bail on

00:26:11.309 --> 00:26:13.589
his girlfriend and child because his girlfriend's

00:26:13.589 --> 00:26:16.529
pregnant now and they because they might be better

00:26:16.529 --> 00:26:19.829
off without him because he is a slacker he is

00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:23.299
poor now he doesn't have any money he doesn't

00:26:23.299 --> 00:26:24.920
have anything and he thinks he's going to be

00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:29.079
a bad dad and Kyle kind of uh Peter kind of talks

00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:31.900
to him and just like no no you're going to be

00:26:31.900 --> 00:26:33.420
great you're going to do great and everything

00:26:33.420 --> 00:26:35.519
like that talks him out of it and everything

00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:41.640
and Peter kind of apologizes for operation who's

00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:43.940
your daddy he just wanted to figure out what

00:26:43.940 --> 00:26:45.980
his dad and everything like that and he didn't

00:26:45.980 --> 00:26:51.940
like that Kyle didn't really care and Kyle says

00:26:51.940 --> 00:26:54.359
to him, I wasn't that curious about Dad because,

00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:58.299
like, I had you, Peter. Like, I always had you

00:26:58.299 --> 00:27:01.759
and everything like that. And so it's a nice

00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:03.779
touching moment that then gets ruined by a joke

00:27:03.779 --> 00:27:07.359
that Peter doesn't actually wear glasses. He

00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:09.380
wears them because they fit his image, but he

00:27:09.380 --> 00:27:11.220
has, like, 20 -20 vision. He doesn't need them.

00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:15.099
Why was this a thing? Why did this need to happen?

00:27:16.059 --> 00:27:21.950
What? I don't get this. So the cops come to them

00:27:21.950 --> 00:27:23.930
and they're asking what happened and everything

00:27:23.930 --> 00:27:25.690
like that. And they're talking about how they're

00:27:25.690 --> 00:27:28.910
on Operation Hoosier Daddy. And it just so happens,

00:27:29.230 --> 00:27:31.869
Sparkly P is known by the cops investigating

00:27:31.869 --> 00:27:36.289
their car crash. Sparkly P is Patrick O 'Callaghan.

00:27:37.109 --> 00:27:39.789
Patrick O 'Callaghan is like this famous cop

00:27:39.789 --> 00:27:43.630
in Worcester, Mass. And the hitchhiker wanted

00:27:43.630 --> 00:27:46.589
to go to Worcester, Mass. And basically, they've

00:27:46.589 --> 00:27:49.029
all decided. This is the universe talking to

00:27:49.029 --> 00:27:53.049
them and everything like that. So they take the

00:27:53.049 --> 00:27:56.170
hitchhiker. They drive him home. They give him

00:27:56.170 --> 00:27:59.890
the jumper cables as like a memento. And basically

00:27:59.890 --> 00:28:01.589
his whole family is waiting for him. He's grateful

00:28:01.589 --> 00:28:04.009
for the ride and everything. And they go check

00:28:04.009 --> 00:28:07.569
into a hotel in Worcester, Mass. Awaiting the

00:28:07.569 --> 00:28:10.730
next day where they're going to find out if Sparkly

00:28:10.730 --> 00:28:13.109
P, Patrick O 'Callaghan, is their actual father.

00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:16.940
One of the bits on this is when they go to the

00:28:16.940 --> 00:28:18.940
hotel to check in, for whatever reason, the hotel

00:28:18.940 --> 00:28:23.819
clerk just whispers. It's kind of a dumb thing,

00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:27.420
to be honest. But, you know, it happens and everything

00:28:27.420 --> 00:28:32.400
like that. They go to the hotel bar to have like

00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:34.900
a bite to eat. Kyle excuses himself to go to

00:28:34.900 --> 00:28:37.519
the bathroom. But he also sees that there's somebody

00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:40.519
at the bar and is kind of like convincing Peter

00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:44.209
to go talk to her. It's Katie Aselton. Katie

00:28:44.209 --> 00:28:46.809
Isleton's from The League. She's the wife in

00:28:46.809 --> 00:28:49.029
The League. That's the thing I know her most

00:28:49.029 --> 00:28:51.329
from. There's probably a bunch of other things

00:28:51.329 --> 00:28:53.630
that she's known from. But that's the thing I

00:28:53.630 --> 00:28:57.089
know her from. And she's amazing in that. So

00:28:57.089 --> 00:29:00.150
that's the only thing I think I want to know

00:29:00.150 --> 00:29:02.089
her from. If there's any other roles that she's

00:29:02.089 --> 00:29:06.829
done that are not as good. We'll see. She plays

00:29:06.829 --> 00:29:11.890
Sarah. well peter for whatever reason decides

00:29:11.890 --> 00:29:14.849
that he has the courage so he decides to go up

00:29:14.849 --> 00:29:17.210
and talk to her and they have a drink together

00:29:17.210 --> 00:29:20.730
they're hitting it off and kyle comes back and

00:29:20.730 --> 00:29:23.230
realizes oh he's he's talking with her he's like

00:29:23.230 --> 00:29:27.750
okay cool i'll uh i gotta go on this special

00:29:27.750 --> 00:29:31.150
meeting why don't you have the room tonight i'll

00:29:31.150 --> 00:29:35.210
i'll see in the morning so kyle leaves and lets

00:29:35.210 --> 00:29:38.869
peter try to uh Get his game on and they hit

00:29:38.869 --> 00:29:41.930
it off and they do have sex. And Kyle sleeps

00:29:41.930 --> 00:29:45.430
in the car overnight. And everybody's basically

00:29:45.430 --> 00:29:47.950
pretty happy, even if they don't find out. They're

00:29:47.950 --> 00:29:51.049
going to find Sparkly P tomorrow, find out if

00:29:51.049 --> 00:29:55.309
he's their dad. Peter's back in the game. He's

00:29:55.309 --> 00:29:58.710
just hooked up with this girl. Kyle, he's been

00:29:58.710 --> 00:30:00.809
convinced that he's going to stay with his girlfriend

00:30:00.809 --> 00:30:03.329
and the child. He actually has a FaceTime with

00:30:03.329 --> 00:30:05.809
her in the car and like everything feels OK.

00:30:06.269 --> 00:30:08.509
We're in a good spot, even if they don't find

00:30:08.509 --> 00:30:13.390
sparkly pee. They feel okay. So, of course, something's

00:30:13.390 --> 00:30:15.450
got to happen, but we're going to get to that

00:30:15.450 --> 00:30:18.279
after this quick little word. About the people

00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:20.579
that guessed our bad movie correctly. That is

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Podcast. Thank you guys very much for guessing

00:30:51.700 --> 00:30:55.500
it correctly. So everybody's happy. Now they

00:30:55.500 --> 00:30:58.339
are going to go to Sparkly P's house. They find

00:30:58.339 --> 00:31:01.099
his address and they go to his house and they

00:31:01.099 --> 00:31:03.480
realize that, yep, there's a bunch of people

00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:06.339
at his house and they are all wearing dark colors.

00:31:07.180 --> 00:31:12.829
He's dead. Sparkly P, gone. It's unfortunate.

00:31:13.069 --> 00:31:15.410
He seemed like a nice guy, even though we didn't

00:31:15.410 --> 00:31:18.730
actually meet him. They're at the casket, like,

00:31:18.809 --> 00:31:20.849
saying, oh, we wish you could have been our father,

00:31:20.990 --> 00:31:22.789
or you might have been, and, you know, you seem

00:31:22.789 --> 00:31:24.670
like a good guy and everything like that. And

00:31:24.670 --> 00:31:26.230
somebody in the crowd makes an announcement that

00:31:26.230 --> 00:31:28.950
the eldest daughter is about to say a couple

00:31:28.950 --> 00:31:32.309
words on her father's passing. And wouldn't you

00:31:32.309 --> 00:31:36.190
know it, it's Sarah, the girl that Peter just

00:31:36.190 --> 00:31:40.450
hooked up with last night. Yep, she may be his

00:31:40.450 --> 00:31:43.940
sister. Of course. Why wouldn't it happen this

00:31:43.940 --> 00:31:46.039
way? This is the only way it could have gone

00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:50.579
down. And they're just like, OK, we need to get

00:31:50.579 --> 00:31:51.799
out of here. We need to get out of here. They

00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:54.799
bump into some guys. And of course, they're the

00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:59.059
typical like Massachusetts and Massachusetts,

00:31:59.619 --> 00:32:03.579
Massachusetts, Massachusetts, whatever you want

00:32:03.579 --> 00:32:05.900
to call them. Bostonians, that's probably more.

00:32:06.299 --> 00:32:09.039
fitting the wooster ends that kind of thing and

00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:11.339
they're tough guys that want to get into a fight

00:32:11.339 --> 00:32:13.400
so they take it outside and everything like that

00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.359
and sarah realizes like whoa peter what are you

00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:18.079
what are you doing here like why are you here

00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:19.720
why are you at my dad's funeral and everything

00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.180
like that and they get into a fight with these

00:32:22.180 --> 00:32:28.119
guys and basically some guy breaks it up gets

00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.700
them all to sit down and talk and it's the uncle

00:32:30.700 --> 00:32:36.269
or it's the brother of sparkly p and he's He

00:32:36.269 --> 00:32:37.890
gets them all to talk about everything that's

00:32:37.890 --> 00:32:41.089
going on, everything like that. And basically,

00:32:41.130 --> 00:32:44.809
they admit that Sparkly P might have been their

00:32:44.809 --> 00:32:47.970
dad. And Sarah immediately is just, oh, oh, God.

00:32:48.009 --> 00:32:54.289
Oh, oh, no. And they learn that Sparkly P was

00:32:54.289 --> 00:32:59.049
a good guy and never had sex out of wedlock.

00:33:00.910 --> 00:33:06.740
And so even though. sparkly p was like in love

00:33:06.740 --> 00:33:09.400
with helen and everything like that they never

00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:12.240
had sex because he never put a ring on it and

00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.099
so good news sarah and peter can continue fucking

00:33:15.099 --> 00:33:17.940
they're not actually brother and sister and kyle

00:33:17.940 --> 00:33:19.819
also has a line where he like points at sarah

00:33:19.819 --> 00:33:22.759
and goes you were worried there weren't you um

00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:29.240
so yeah because they never got married and because

00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:33.720
they never had sex and everything like that Obviously,

00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:36.279
this couldn't be their father. And it was also

00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.240
because they didn't get married because of an

00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.880
affair that Helen was having for a long time,

00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:46.119
basically. The affair was with some guy named

00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:48.880
Dr. Tinkler. And yes, that is his real name,

00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:55.779
Dr. Tinkler, who just so happens to live in their

00:33:55.779 --> 00:33:58.759
town, be their vet, and he's the one that put

00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:02.490
down their cat, Chairman Meow. And now it all

00:34:02.490 --> 00:34:05.289
makes sense. Obviously, Dr. Tinkler is definitely

00:34:05.289 --> 00:34:08.590
their father. That makes sense because, like,

00:34:08.630 --> 00:34:10.530
why would they live in the same area? That kind

00:34:10.530 --> 00:34:14.730
of stuff. So they road trip it all the way back

00:34:14.730 --> 00:34:18.309
to Ohio, and they're going to confront Dr. Tinkler.

00:34:19.530 --> 00:34:21.570
This is when I also learned that Ali Wong's in

00:34:21.570 --> 00:34:23.570
this movie because she is the receptionist for

00:34:23.570 --> 00:34:28.329
Dr. Tinkler. And Christopher Walken is Dr. Tinkler.

00:34:28.929 --> 00:34:32.699
And he... Seems to know already why the boys

00:34:32.699 --> 00:34:35.519
are here and everything like that. Also, he may

00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:39.300
have had an affair with Ali Wong, his his receptionist.

00:34:39.340 --> 00:34:41.960
That also is a thing that might have happened.

00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:45.599
They're having this super serious conversation

00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:48.179
with Dr. Tinkler, and they keep getting distracted

00:34:48.179 --> 00:34:50.159
by the fact that there's a cat on the table that

00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:53.960
just has like massive cat balls. So, you know,

00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:58.579
again, another thing. Dr. Tinkler is able to

00:34:58.579 --> 00:35:01.300
distract them for a second and he's running off

00:35:01.300 --> 00:35:03.940
because he just doesn't want to deal with this.

00:35:06.300 --> 00:35:09.639
Kyle somehow picks up a tranquilizer dart gun

00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:15.000
and shoots Dr. Tinkler. And so they put him back

00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:18.320
in the vet room. They call their mother and they're

00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:23.219
just like, yeah, we're here to talk about this

00:35:23.219 --> 00:35:26.079
situation. We know the truth now that Dr. Tinkler

00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:32.960
is our father. And finally, it all comes out.

00:35:34.179 --> 00:35:38.719
Helen isn't even their mother. I know. You're

00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:43.420
as thrown as I am. Helen used to work at a battered

00:35:43.420 --> 00:35:47.239
women's shelter. And a woman came in six months

00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:50.699
pregnant, went into labor early, and these boys

00:35:50.699 --> 00:35:54.159
were born and the mother died. And so they don't

00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:55.780
know the father's name because she never gave

00:35:55.780 --> 00:35:58.389
it up. All they know is that the mother's name

00:35:58.389 --> 00:36:06.010
was Jenny. And Helen basically stayed single

00:36:06.010 --> 00:36:08.789
raising these boys because she didn't want them

00:36:08.789 --> 00:36:12.050
to be broken up in the foster care system. She

00:36:12.050 --> 00:36:15.289
wanted to care for these two twins. So Helen

00:36:15.289 --> 00:36:18.730
took them on and basically stayed single for

00:36:18.730 --> 00:36:21.630
their sake so that she could watch over them

00:36:21.630 --> 00:36:24.010
and take good care of them and give them a life.

00:36:25.610 --> 00:36:28.150
it's also they don't know the dad's name because

00:36:28.150 --> 00:36:32.630
jenny never revealed it and they wanted jenny

00:36:32.630 --> 00:36:37.210
to be able to start a new life so um yeah it's

00:36:37.210 --> 00:36:42.030
actually it's a sad moment and then you think

00:36:42.030 --> 00:36:44.829
about the whole movie you just sat through to

00:36:44.829 --> 00:36:48.190
realize that just because helen didn't want to

00:36:48.190 --> 00:36:52.889
tell you this you just spent $20 ,000 trying

00:36:52.889 --> 00:36:54.929
to find your father's. You went through various

00:36:54.929 --> 00:36:58.949
exploits. And to find an answer you'd never actually

00:36:58.949 --> 00:37:02.769
have, all because your adopted mother didn't

00:37:02.769 --> 00:37:05.110
want to tell you where you actually came from.

00:37:05.750 --> 00:37:08.510
And mind you, these aren't kids. Like, when they

00:37:08.510 --> 00:37:10.210
were kids, I understand. You want to hide that

00:37:10.210 --> 00:37:12.190
kind of stuff, everything like that. That's a

00:37:12.190 --> 00:37:15.269
lot for a kid to take on. These are full -grown

00:37:15.269 --> 00:37:19.719
men. Like, they're adults. They can handle it

00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.139
now. They can deal with it and figure it out.

00:37:22.219 --> 00:37:24.159
But instead, you just went with this lie that

00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:26.800
your father died of colon cancer, which spurred

00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:31.159
all of Peter's life now. And they are trying

00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:33.320
to find their fathers because of another lie

00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:35.360
you told because you just wouldn't tell them

00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:38.699
the truth. And like this moment's actually very

00:37:38.699 --> 00:37:41.500
touching. It really is. They actually did a pretty

00:37:41.500 --> 00:37:45.000
decent job with this moment. But it's all because

00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:49.800
of a lie. So Kyle goes outside. He's lost faith

00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:51.780
in the universe because they were born and they

00:37:51.780 --> 00:37:54.320
killed their mother. But Peter convinces him

00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.719
the universe gave them a mom who sacrificed everything

00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:59.079
and kept them together instead of separating

00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:02.599
them. Helen comes out and was just saying, I'm

00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:08.019
afraid of hurting you, losing you. And they basically

00:38:08.019 --> 00:38:11.000
reveal their exploits. And he actually did get

00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:12.900
hit by the train and survived, by the way, because

00:38:12.900 --> 00:38:15.019
he says, you almost did lose me. I got hit by

00:38:15.019 --> 00:38:20.030
a train. That's all that we're supposed to have

00:38:20.030 --> 00:38:23.389
at this moment. It then goes to an epilogue,

00:38:23.469 --> 00:38:27.469
which is a year later. Peter is a better father

00:38:27.469 --> 00:38:30.250
to Ethan. They are dating Sarah, and it seems

00:38:30.250 --> 00:38:33.710
like they're visiting Kyle in Hawaii. Truthfully,

00:38:33.750 --> 00:38:36.949
they actually live there now. And the brothers

00:38:36.949 --> 00:38:40.590
created an app together that basically this app

00:38:40.590 --> 00:38:43.050
sends you positive messages from the universe.

00:38:43.289 --> 00:38:45.739
And it's voiced. By Hitchhiker Cat Williams.

00:38:46.059 --> 00:38:49.579
Because of course it is. And that's it. Happy

00:38:49.579 --> 00:38:53.900
ending. Yeah. I went on that whole spiel about

00:38:53.900 --> 00:38:56.539
the fact that. She lied to them. She lied to

00:38:56.539 --> 00:38:58.219
them again. They could have known this stuff.

00:38:58.420 --> 00:39:01.679
And this whole movie didn't have to happen. Just

00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:04.000
in general. But I just mean in life in general.

00:39:04.380 --> 00:39:07.420
You took so much time from these boys lives.

00:39:08.739 --> 00:39:12.730
To not tell them the truth. And. I understand,

00:39:12.869 --> 00:39:14.869
again, in the beginning when they're kids and

00:39:14.869 --> 00:39:16.730
you don't want to separate them, put them into

00:39:16.730 --> 00:39:18.530
foster care, and you don't want to let them know

00:39:18.530 --> 00:39:20.710
that their mother died because of them. I understand

00:39:20.710 --> 00:39:24.329
that. I do. When you're kids, that's a big thing.

00:39:24.449 --> 00:39:26.570
And so, like, it was easier at that time to tell

00:39:26.570 --> 00:39:30.570
you, like, father died. I'm your mother. Okay.

00:39:30.889 --> 00:39:36.869
Fine. As adults, I think they have the right

00:39:36.869 --> 00:39:39.230
to know. I think they should know, especially.

00:39:41.269 --> 00:39:43.429
If you're telling them another lie that Terry

00:39:43.429 --> 00:39:46.469
Bradshaw is their father. Why couldn't you have

00:39:46.469 --> 00:39:48.730
told them right then and there what happened?

00:39:49.309 --> 00:39:50.869
And yeah, it would have sucked. It would have

00:39:50.869 --> 00:39:54.130
hurt. Everything like that. But they still probably

00:39:54.130 --> 00:39:56.230
would have seen you for the person you were that

00:39:56.230 --> 00:39:58.329
took care of them and took them in and everything

00:39:58.329 --> 00:40:01.469
like that. That's what drives me most nuts about

00:40:01.469 --> 00:40:04.150
this movie. This movie is not awful. It's not

00:40:04.150 --> 00:40:06.070
amazing. I'm not recommending it for anybody.

00:40:06.250 --> 00:40:09.619
But this movie is not awful because... It has

00:40:09.619 --> 00:40:11.579
some funny moments. It has some good scenes.

00:40:11.739 --> 00:40:13.599
It's a lot of vignettes, which is kind of fun.

00:40:13.940 --> 00:40:17.000
The Roland scene, I could have completely gotten

00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:21.960
rid of that, but it's fine. So this movie, I'm

00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:27.099
not upset it happened, but it could have been

00:40:27.099 --> 00:40:30.380
a completely different story if you actually

00:40:30.380 --> 00:40:32.559
did what most people in that situation would

00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:35.409
do. I don't know. Maybe maybe that's just me.

00:40:35.469 --> 00:40:37.510
Maybe I'm making a bigger deal of this than I

00:40:37.510 --> 00:40:42.510
thought. But that reveal at the end, though they

00:40:42.510 --> 00:40:44.949
did it in a touching way, that reveal at the

00:40:44.949 --> 00:40:48.869
end almost made it worse for the movie because

00:40:48.869 --> 00:40:51.429
like you're sitting there going now, why the

00:40:51.429 --> 00:40:57.269
fuck did I watch this movie? So. I don't know,

00:40:57.309 --> 00:41:03.519
I am. I'm frustrated by the ending. I'll say

00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:06.480
three quarters of the movie was okay. It's not

00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:09.000
great. It's not Shakespeare. It's not, you know,

00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:11.039
anything like that. Again, I'm not recommending

00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:15.480
this to anybody. However, you could watch the

00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:17.159
first three quarters of this movie and have a

00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:21.340
decent time. Decent, not great, but decent time.

00:41:22.260 --> 00:41:25.159
The end of it just makes it now, why did I watch

00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:27.719
the three quarters of this movie? I didn't need

00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:30.420
to, you know, because at the end it just doesn't

00:41:30.420 --> 00:41:33.960
matter. This whole search was based on a lie.

00:41:34.099 --> 00:41:40.820
So I think that's where my rating comes in. I'm

00:41:40.820 --> 00:41:43.960
trying to think of a rating to give it. I'm probably

00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:47.239
going to give it one out of five jumper cables

00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:50.500
tying up a serial killer. The first three quarters

00:41:50.500 --> 00:41:54.599
of this movie, I would probably give it two and

00:41:54.599 --> 00:42:00.400
a half out of five. Probably. because of that

00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.059
ending, it brought it down a point and a half.

00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:06.519
And, I mean, that's just what it was. That's

00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:09.719
just what it did. Overall, this movie, like I

00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:12.500
said, not bad. It could have been a lot worse.

00:42:13.179 --> 00:42:15.980
The cast in this movie was pretty damn good.

00:42:18.820 --> 00:42:20.539
Some of the scenes with Christopher Walken, I

00:42:20.539 --> 00:42:22.380
don't know what it is, but he looks like a robot

00:42:22.380 --> 00:42:25.760
because of his face. It just doesn't move. And

00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:29.090
then some of the parts of this movie, were actually

00:42:29.090 --> 00:42:31.710
funny. I actually liked some of it. I mean, I

00:42:31.710 --> 00:42:33.949
could have done without the Roland scene. I could

00:42:33.949 --> 00:42:35.670
have done it without the sleeping with your sister

00:42:35.670 --> 00:42:40.349
scene. That's fine. Like I, okay. And it's partially

00:42:40.349 --> 00:42:44.730
because I don't know if I saw it coming, but

00:42:44.730 --> 00:42:47.030
I had an idea that maybe they were going to go

00:42:47.030 --> 00:42:49.090
that way when Peter started like hooking up with

00:42:49.090 --> 00:42:51.929
Sarah. It's like, okay, I think this is going

00:42:51.929 --> 00:42:55.730
to go probably she's related somehow. And that's

00:42:57.769 --> 00:43:00.929
kind of dumb i almost would have been better

00:43:00.929 --> 00:43:03.530
with this movie though if it would have ended

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okay this is gonna sound weird all right um i

00:43:09.949 --> 00:43:13.469
would have been happier with the ending if sparkly

00:43:13.469 --> 00:43:17.630
p was the father dead and peter hooked up with

00:43:17.630 --> 00:43:21.110
sarah than the way it actually went because at

00:43:21.110 --> 00:43:24.030
least at that point there was a purpose to their

00:43:24.030 --> 00:43:27.500
mission they actually found their father They

00:43:27.500 --> 00:43:28.820
didn't get to talk to him. They didn't get to

00:43:28.820 --> 00:43:30.780
catch up. That kind of stuff. But at least they

00:43:30.780 --> 00:43:32.760
found their father. And it did end with a little

00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:37.239
bit of incest. However, it was better than making

00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:40.619
the whole movie pointless. The purpose of the

00:43:40.619 --> 00:43:44.940
movie pointless. I guess that's what I'm saying.

00:43:45.059 --> 00:43:48.000
You know, it sounds weird that I would have rather

00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:52.199
the incest ending. But that's kind of what I

00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:56.920
would have preferred. That's strange. I don't

00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:58.719
like that. I don't like that those words just

00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.420
came out of my mouth. But, you know, that's what

00:44:01.420 --> 00:44:03.699
it was. I mean, I would have preferred the incest

00:44:03.699 --> 00:44:10.340
ending. So, yeah, it's a one out of five jumper

00:44:10.340 --> 00:44:14.599
cables tying up a serial killer. Or not a serial

00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:20.480
killer, as Cat Williams so poignantly said. So,

00:44:20.539 --> 00:44:25.690
yeah, that's Father's Figures. Like I said, not

00:44:25.690 --> 00:44:27.630
a bad movie for the first half, but, you know,

00:44:27.650 --> 00:44:31.230
could have been better. Could have been better.

00:44:31.349 --> 00:44:37.969
So, yeah. Have any of you seen this movie? I

00:44:37.969 --> 00:44:40.230
want to know if any of you guys have seen this

00:44:40.230 --> 00:44:45.809
movie or have thought about it. Because it did.

00:44:45.909 --> 00:44:52.219
I felt like it was. everywhere for a while like

00:44:52.219 --> 00:44:54.559
I felt there was a lot of promos for it and that

00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.280
kind of stuff and then it just kind of disappeared

00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:58.960
probably because it wasn't as good as it could

00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:02.039
have been so I feel like it just kind of like

00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:04.940
tapered off and never went anywhere after it

00:45:04.940 --> 00:45:07.199
got revealed because I remember seeing this movie

00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:10.380
and going wow that's a stacked cast maybe I am

00:45:10.380 --> 00:45:13.440
a little interested and then saw the trailer

00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.699
and was kind of like nah I'm good that kind of

00:45:15.699 --> 00:45:19.780
thing But obviously, because I like to torture

00:45:19.780 --> 00:45:22.900
myself, I've actually seen it now anyways. So

00:45:22.900 --> 00:45:26.280
yeah, Father Figures. That is a movie that exists.

00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:30.760
I definitely watched it. And I would have preferred

00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:35.039
the incest ending. God, that's so weird to end

00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:37.800
on and everything like that. But yeah, so I've

00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:39.380
been Mike, your host for the Game for a Movie

00:45:39.380 --> 00:45:41.980
podcast, where we ask, are you game for a movie?

00:45:42.380 --> 00:45:44.420
Thank you guys very much for tuning in. I've

00:45:44.420 --> 00:45:46.280
got a 4th of July episode hopefully I'll get

00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:48.639
to on the right amount of time. I also have another

00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:51.820
backlog of movies that I've seen that I can now

00:45:51.820 --> 00:45:55.800
record and edit and hopefully have done for the

00:45:55.800 --> 00:45:59.340
rest of July, August into September I think is

00:45:59.340 --> 00:46:03.199
when I can actually have some of these edited

00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:05.900
and ready to go. So thank you guys very much

00:46:05.900 --> 00:46:07.480
for tuning in for the Game for a Movie podcast.

00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:10.820
I'll see you next time and... Don't prefer the

00:46:10.820 --> 00:46:12.980
incest ending of this one because I'm an only

00:46:12.980 --> 00:46:14.000
child. Bye!
