You know what that sound means? It's another
episode of Game for a Movie where we ask, are
you game for a movie? It is episode 28. We are
two away from our group movie watching. Get excited,
friends. We don't know what we're going to watch
yet, but there are some candidates out there,
including Dragon Ball Evolution is the last one
we were talking about. And as you can tell. It
would be so horrible, but so hilarious. at the
same time. That brings us to our intros. I am
your host, Mike. I am joined by... Ooh, I haven't
told you guys. Let's go... I don't know. This
is very perilous. We're going... We always go
ladies first, so Andre, you're first. Okay. Hi.
Wow. Very classic joke. Hi, I'm Andre. How you
doing? Jill, I'm joking. This has already gone
off the rails. We're off to a great start. That's
your Mitchell impression? That's pretty good.
Was there a twang in there? Was there a twang?
That was an accidental twang. I heard some twang
in there. Oh my gosh. There you go. Good intro.
Classic. Yeah, off to a great start. Okay, so
I'm going to tell you how we're going to do this
now because I forgot to do this in this long
prep. I've been recording for 30 minutes of our
long prep already, and I forgot to tell you the
order. So we're going to go Andre, Mitchell,
Jill, myself, because that's usually how you
sit at the table. Okay. But yeah, just a few
things before we get started, though. What are
we drinking, friends? We'll go with Andre. Nice.
It looks good. Mitchell, what are you having
over there? Yeah, so every year for Lent, I'm
not a practicing Catholic, but the one thing
that I still carry on into my adult life is Lent
and sacrificing something for 40 days. And for
me, it's beer pretty much every year. And that's
why I'm drinking water. So water and staying
hydrated. I saw that liquid. I think it's vodka.
Straight, straight vodka. It goes down so smooth.
of the Russians. It's very true. Very true. I've
always said for, like, a New Year's resolution,
I'm going to drink more clear liquids, and that
just means, like, I can drink gin and vodka instead
of beer. And tequila. And tequila, yeah. Yeah.
Because that's better than beer for you, right?
Yes. That's nice. I agree. Jill, what are you
drinking over there? I am drinking Herbal Paris.
This is a Harney and Sons tea. is one of their
most popular bestsellers. Nice. As the name implies,
this is the herbal blend, and it is quite good.
Mitchell, with regards to Lent, does this mean
you do a yearly watching of the Josh Hartnett
classic 40 Days and 40 Nights? Absolutely not.
This is as far as I take it. I think it's time
for you to give that movie a re -examination.
This is a me time and exercising self -discipline.
I think it's a muscle that we could all benefit
from using once in a while. And subjecting myself
to an over -the -top Christian movie is probably
not one of those things for me. I've never actually
seen it. Is the movie, like, overtly religious?
I have no idea. I have no fucking idea. Wait,
isn't 40 Days and 40 Nights... I thought it was
a vampire movie. Is that true? No, you're thinking
of the other Josh Hartnett vehicle. Oh, is that...
That's like 40 Days of Night or something like
that. Well, I'll say vampire stories are inherently
laced with Christianity's symbology. are Christian
symbols, so maybe. You ready? Here we go, I got
it. After a brutal breakup, a young man vows
to stay celibate during the 40 days of Lent,
but finds the girls of his dreams and is unable
to do anything about it, because you can't fall
in love with somebody without having sex. Yes,
you can. I know, that's... When did this movie
come out? 2003? 2002. Okay, yeah, in 2002, I
guess. be watching that movie. That sounds awful.
Thank you. Don't worry. Don't worry, Mitchell.
Oh, you're good. No worries. No, I'm letting
this happen. Don't worry, Mitchell. I am taking
one for the team. I have a full growler over
here. So on Wednesday nights, I host trivia at
Reverie Brewing. I have bought a growler of their
Pug New England IPA. It is fantastic. I'm also
drinking it in a Blackhawk beer mug. So I've
got all the Connecticut bases covered. And I've
got my Yardgoat shirt on. Go Connecticut. Look
at you. Now name an iconic Connecticut food and
you're all set. Steamed cheeseburger. There it
is. That's really the only one. There's the white
clam pizza. I guess it's a white sauce on a pizza,
right? Yes. It's actually really good. I don't
know. I like clams, so I was into it, but I could
see how if you're not, that's a tough sell. I
can say that Claire likes it. Yeah, I can say
that Claire likes it. I'm not a huge fan myself.
Claire will also be joining us later, friends.
She will be jumping in on hashtag Cash or Trash.
Yeah. So let's jump into the movie reviews. Andre,
you have a twofer for us? You have an emotion
for one of them. Yeah, so I'll start with our
Valentine's Day special real quick. Since Jill
and I spent our Valentine's Day together indoors,
as was the responsible thing to do, we decided
to try to dig the depths of Hulu streaming for
a suitable Valentine's Day movie, and we landed
on Date Night, the classic 2010 rom -com starring
one Tina Fey. Steve Carell. I'm pretty sure it's
Tony 10. I should probably have this out. And,
yeah, so, I don't know, like, we went into this
pretty, you know, like, I don't know, I would
say measured expectations, and I felt very well.
It was kind of a nothing movie, and I'm struggling
to remember the plot details right now, but,
you know, it was perfectly acceptable. Tina Fey
and Steve Carell, they have good chemistry. They,
there's, you know, I got a few chuckles out of
it. And yeah, I don't know. I kind of forgot
about it. Quickly, the most interesting thing
about it to me was all of the cameos of up -and
-coming comedians. There's one very young Nick
Kroll as the host of the super fancy restaurant
they're trying to get a meal at. And so it was
kind of fun to see him pop up. Bill Burr is in
this movie, and I feel like they just forgot
to write jokes for him. Because he's in it, but
he's just a very serious straight man character.
Basically, Steve Carell and Tina Fey get wrapped
up. They try to have a fancy date night out in
New York City at a fancy restaurant. They steal
somebody's reservation, and because of that,
they get caught up in a mafia scheme, and it's
all these sorts of crazy antics. What's up? What
accent does Bill Burr have? Is it Boston or Space
Boston? I'm pretty sure it's Space Boston, because
I don't really know how a Bostonian would show
up as a New York City beat cop, but he still
sounds like Bill Burr. But yeah, he plays...
He basically plays the beat cop that's like the
partner to the good cop that's trying to figure
out how Tina Fey and Steve Carell got into this
mess. I don't know. I just thought it was striking
that he has no funny lines. It's very strange.
Anyways, not to harp too long about this movie.
It was fine. It was watchable, but it does not
enter the halls of the classic Valentine's Day
movies that I can watch over and over again.
Fair. I will second, but it was not. It was also
very forgettable. Yeah. But, yeah, regarding
what Andre was saying, it was rather interesting
to see, like, the young up -and -coming talent
or, like, people who had just about to, like,
become very, very, very famous are in it. Like,
Gal Gadot is in it. Gal Gadot, yes. And her cameo
is really weird. Yeah, Gal Gadot's in this movie.
Okay. So, she... We mentioned it before, but
they run into Mark Wahlberg, who plays the super
handsome guy with the super six -pence house.
What's his fucking name again? Oh, Holbrook Grant.
Holbrook Grant? That's his character's name,
and he's like this super, like, basically he
answers, like, Tina Fey, like, oh, I know this
guy, like, he'll come and give us shelter for
a little bit, and they go, and he answers the
door, and he has his shirt off, and he's like,
oh, hey, like, whoa, so nice to see you. oh,
man, Steve Grohl's jealous of Marky Mark and
everything. Can't imagine why. Yeah, right. And
then while that's happening, Gal Gadot shows
up, like, randomly, like, walking down, like,
in basically in, I think, Mark Wahlberg's shirt.
And underwear. And, like, she doesn't say any
English. She just talks to Mark Wahlberg. Mark
Wahlberg's just like, oh, yeah, this is an Israeli
model I picked up, you know, a few months ago.
And she just says, like, oh, are we supposed
to have sex with those two? And then promptly
leaves. And that's it. It was a really bizarre
cameo for Gal Gadot. Yeah. Okay. Kind of crazy.
Did she bust out the lasso and the, no, no, no,
no, no heartfelt, um, uh, metaphors to the entire
world. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Heartfelt metaphors
to the entire world. I will say, we, but it was
not available anywhere for free, and we were
not purchasing it. That is also why it didn't
make the... I would say that Date Night is better.
Not that much, but better. I know when I lost
the challenge, we were talking about doing Valentine's
Day movies, and you had suggested Valentine's
Day. That is the reason why I did not make the
poll for the final four movies, mostly because
it's not streaming anywhere, and I'm not spending
money on that garbage. Yeah. Yeah. At the end
of the day, you do plenty worse. I didn't hate
myself after watching it, but I also forgot a
lot of the details. So I'm going to clock this
one in at two computer stick dongle thingies,
whatever Tina Fey called it on the last trip.
Yeah, computer stick thingies out of five. Computer
stick thingies. Okay. Yeah. Okay. What was the
second one? and furious films, including Hans
and Shaw. Hashtag fate night. Yeah, fate night,
exactly. And, you know, I had a lot of fun, but
that does not mean I think this movie is very
good. It's very much, I think, number one off
the top, the worst thing this movie does for
me is that it wastes Charlize Theron. Like, I
feel like her villain was not very interesting
at all. already super tired, and it's been played
out in the same fucking movies, because what
was it? I'm in. What's that? I'm in. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Natalie something or other. She played
Missandei's character. Missandei's character.
She was in the previous movie as an elite hacker,
and so she's brought in as the crew now. What's
her character's name? Ramsey. Yeah. Natalie Emanuel,
yeah. And so, like, it's already interrupted
this movie. as this movie franchise has already
gone to. And Charlize Theron's whole shtick is
that she just kind of whispers, like she kind
of talks like she's whispering almost all the
time. And she's just saying like, oh, it's all
about choice. Oh, you all, you have a choice
in this Dom, like blah, blah, blah. And the whole
entire trope is that Dom, oh man, Dom's turned
on the crew now. Now the crew has to fight Dom.
And that's fun for a little bit, but yeah, I
don't know. To me, these movies, I get directly
invested in them. the villain is. I actually
liked Fury 7 a lot because Jason Statham's so
much such an easy character to like and they're
all kind of meshing together for me. Whatever
movie introduces The Rock's character, I think
that's Fast Five, right? Yes. That one is also
probably, looking back now, a highlight of the
series for me because he as an antagonist works
really well. So, I mean, I love Charlize Theron
a lot. super disappointed that the script did
not give her more to work with because I was
not invested in her scenes at all. Um, and then,
you know, outside of that, it just felt like,
I mean, you know, this is the eighth movie in
the franchise. It does feel like they're just
kind of trying to check off, like check off,
you know, check boxes. Like, okay. Like we, we
have like our, you know, our, our, uh, obligatory
drag race at the beginning, you know? Okay. Like
we're, we're going all over to these random locations.
Okay. Like around the world. Cool. Check. We
have a fun hacking moment. Check. Tyrese says
some funny shit and everyone makes fun of him.
He's become just the butt monkey of this group
now. Everyone just basically makes fun of Tyrese.
And it's kind of funny. And you're forgetting
your favorite part of the movie. Which is? When
the kids get raised. And we get to meet Y. Oh
my god. So just to set things up for those who
haven't seen this. The essential plot is that
Dom did not go evil. He is being essentially
blackmailed. His family means everything to him.
So the film is in continuity. And was like, you
know what? Remember when he briefly was not with
Michelle Rodriguez's character? Let's bring this
back. Yes. And so we find out that Dom has a
love child that he never knew about until they
meet on the plane where they have both Elena
and his child kidnapped. moment in a bulletproof
box, basically. It's like, what? I don't know.
Whatever. It's okay. No, no, no. You need to
talk about your favorite part when we get to
find out that in an act of writing genius, they
never named the baby. The baby didn't have a
first name. Yes, Elena. She wanted to make sure
Dom got to name it. Right. She says, oh, I call
him Marcos, but that's his middle name because
I wanted you to give him the first name. person.
I'm like, that's super fucked up. Like, what
the hell? Like, it's your child too. I hope it's
Han. Yeah. Andre's reaction was like, just gobsmacked.
And I told him, this is when I get mad at this
movie for all of the gratuitous ass shots, this
is what I'm feeling on the inside. Yeah, yeah.
Why? So basically, they wrote it that way just
so, you know, at the end, they can name the kid
after Brian Paul Walker's character, which is
like, okay. I think that action undid all of
the charity it had from the seventh movie because
the seventh movie ended so perfectly. Yeah, it
was heartfelt. I have a lot of problems with
that movie that aren't its own fault because
you can clearly tell that they had to come up
with a lot of workarounds because Paul Walker
unfortunately passed during shooting. You can
definitely tell they had to shift some things
around. But yes, that ending, it was a really
good scene. for sure yeah um and yeah you're
right i i just it definitely feels it's like
okay i don't really know if we needed to be this
gratuitous in this ending but whatever it's fine
right i also think it's weird that um uh what
is it mr nobody uh he's just one of the dudes
now kurt russell's character i love i'm happy
to have russell back in these movies it's a little
weird that he's part of the family now you know
what i mean like he's this clandestine basically
but you know whatever he's part of the family
now anyways that's enough talking about fate
of the furious it's a fine movie i would give
it two and a half gps tracking cross devices
out of five that's that's where i'm at so i guess
the question i have before we we close the loop
on this is final ranking all right no i can't
you know i you can't ask me that on the spot
uh i think how about this we'll do that as as
a tweet later on because I don't want to spend
too much time arguing with myself. I've already
spent enough time on this pod figuring out how
I feel about these movies. I will give you a
final ranking to tweet out if that's okay. Oh
yeah, we'll put it on Twitter and Instagram because
we need some Instagram content. I am desperate
for that. Stay tuned. Yeah, stay tuned for that.
And if you are not following us, hey, at GameForAMovie
Instagram, at GameForAMovie P1 because apparently
at GameForAMovie was already taken on Twitter.
So we're P1. Yeah, right. Exactly. I'm so glad
that you guys got through all of the Fast and
Furious movies. Now you're on my level. We definitely
disagree on what is on our rankings here. I'm
interested in re -watching Hobbs and Shaw now
that I have the full context. If you want to,
please feel free to send me your rankings. I'm
happy to do lists for everybody. Mitchell, I
don't know where you are on this, but... That
is the one where it had the best in -theater
experience. It did something new to the Fast
franchise, because I had watched every single
movie up to that point, where I felt like it
was a breath of fresh air. I'm like, okay, this
is where these movies can go. And then Fast and
Furious, the first one is in the top three, just
because I think it has the best introduction
to the characters, or at least it feels the most
grounded in that way. And then as for the others,
look, I'm just not as invested into this franchise
as many others are. Just, like, one, to know
that Tokyo Drift takes place between 6 and 7
or some shit. I don't know. Yeah, that's crazy.
Really? Like, I love Han. He's dope. But at the
same time, I still haven't seen Hobbs and Shaw.
Like, you know, it's just like, it's not a must
-see franchise for your boy. But I will happily
go back and make some decisions. Don't worry,
Han's coming back. Fast in Space. Fast in Space.
Looking forward to seeing that soon. It's in
a few months. That's kind of exciting. That's
kind of crazy. That brings us to you, Mitchell.
You get to talk about what you saw. For me, I
saw Judas and the Black Messiah. It's a new movie
that has come out on HBO Max. It's part of Warner
Brothers big gambit this year of throwing all
of their new releases onto their streaming service
as part of the streaming service for their first
month of being out. So it is going to be on HBO
Max until I believe March 14th. But this is also,
I think, the first big name movie that's going
to get a lot of Oscar buzz for them. for this
Oscar season. It stars Daniel Kaluuya as Fred
Hampton, who is the chairman of the Black Panther
Party based in Chicago, and infiltrating... that
branch of the Black Panther Party is Lakeith
Stanfield, our Judas in the story. And Lakeith
Stanfield is one of my favorite actors working
today. Most people will know him for being Darius
in Atlanta. And, of course, Dana Kaluuya was
nominated for his role in Get Out. Yes. Very
notable actors leading the way in this movie.
And I liked it a lot. I don't have a ranking.
I'll save that for the end. But I'll go into
some details here. So how many people in this
podcast? wise, it's probably not going to be
a high interest level or knowledge. How many
people here have a decent understanding of who
Fred Hampton is? Just nothing. I'm a terrible
human being. It's fine. I didn't know that much
either. I had only seen a Black Panther documentary
back in college where he was prominently placed
at the center of that dock. What's crazy to me
is that he is You know, a charismatic leader.
This is in the wake of Martin Luther King's assassination.
And folks behind this civil rights movement are
now looking for their new leader. And as J. Edgar
Hoover, played by Martin Sheen, by the way, in
this movie, where he is letting the makeup do
all of the acting because he sounds just like
President Bartlett, which is very, you know,
disorienting. It doesn't sound like he tries
to sound like Hoover at all. Hoover is saying
to the FBI that they need to take out the next
black messiah. And that is in this particular
movie, Fred Hampton. Fred Hampton historically
obviously played a huge role in the expansion
of the Black Panther Party, but also in a way
led to its quick downfall because it's better
to be alive than dead when you're trying to get
a movement going. And unfortunately for him,
he had a huge target on his back with the FBI.
And that's where Lakeith Stanfield comes in.
He's a guy who's introduced to us as a low -crime
criminal just trying to get by. In his very first
scene, we see him impersonating an FBI agent,
which is ironic because eventually he gets recruited
to be in the FBI in hopes of getting these auto
charges written off his record. So he goes into
the Black Panther Party inside Chicago, specifically
for Fred Hampton, and just like you would. He's
someone who not only is in it for himself to
feed the FBI information, but he kind of gets
swept up into the movement that's going on. For
the most part, he had, you know, kind of middle
of the road feelings about the civil rights movement
and what's happening on a greater whole. He's
in it for himself. But, you know, all the while
feeding this information to Jesse Plemons, who
is Agent Mitchell working directly with the FBI.
He's trying to figure out, you know, where does
he stand? Is he in support of Fred Hampton, or
is he really just going to be in this for himself?
And I think the title of the movie kind of shows
you where the plot ends up with that question.
But the performances are absolutely fantastic.
This is not just a cast that has big names. It's
big names coming through with big performances.
Lakeith Stanfield, for my money. was the most
impressive performance for me. Definitely the
more nuance in terms of what it's asking the
actor to do, obviously playing an undercover
type of role, but also the struggle of the character
is written all over to keep space the entire
time, and it's just a well -done performance.
But what's interesting to me, and it's probably
because it's the more showy role, but Daniel
Kaluuya has been the one who has been picking
up all the different acting nominations. And
I will say this. I kind of look back to Once
Upon a Time in Hollywood and the differences
of performances between Leo and Brad Pitt's characters.
And with Leo, there is much more acting gymnastics
to go through to pull off that role. Where for
Cliff Booth and Brad Pitt, his whole thing was
exuding charisma and having a drip off the screen,
which is absolutely what he did. And that's why
he won the Oscar that year. Daniel Kaluuya, in
a similar fashion, is doing the same thing, but
this time with big speeches at rallies, which
are absolutely inspiring and really grabs your
attention. And for that, his charisma is perfectly
put to use in this movie. But beyond the acting,
one thing that was running through my mind as
I was watching this movie, if anyone has seen
the movie Widows, a Steve McQueen movie that
came out a couple years ago, I kept thinking
to myself, this movie looks so much like Widows.
It keeps reminding me of it. They're both set
in Chicago, but in different decades, completely
different stories. I don't know why that connection
was being made until I looked at the cast listing,
and then I realized that the cinematographer
for the film, as I'm looking up his name right
now, is the exact same person. It is Sean Bobbitt,
if I'm saying that name right. So he worked on
Widows as well. And it's the type of colors that
they choose to pop off the screen, basically
showing both the beauty and the really disgusting
parts of Chicago and what that means for the
characters in the film. There is none. Yeah,
there is none, sure. Yeah, so anyway, it looks
beautiful. And all for the sake of telling the
story that's taking place. action set pieces
because there are two main ones that stand out
in a really good way. And typically those things
fall by the wayside when you have more of a dramatic
story being told. But I think the action scenes
took place or were handled very well, especially
when the police were in the middle of a shootout
at the headquarters of the Black Panther Party
in Chicago. So I was a big fan of the movie.
It definitely had some lulls in the middle, just
like with anything else. you're definitely wanting
to pay honor and tribute to characters to the
fullest extent that you can. And sometimes that
means slowing down the plot and exploring character
relationships. And the relationship in particular
is between Fred Hampton and his girlfriend, fiance,
whatever you want to call her, in the movie,
who plays a really big role in the plot. And
what's funny is in the credits, you'll see that
the cultural... I forgot how they were listed
in particular, but they were cultural consultants.
It was Fred Hampton's wife and his son, his unborn
son in the movie, overseeing that. And I could
totally see why that particular relationship,
even though the movie didn't call for it necessarily,
took center stage, ultimately dragging the pace
down a little bit. But I think the emotional
payoff at the end justifies it being there. Overall,
Judas and the Black Messiah, not a perfect movie,
but a worthwhile one to watch, especially if
you're into the Oscar race. This is going to
be a must -watch for anyone there. I'm going
to give this one a 4 out of 5. I'm going to say
4 out of 5. Oh, man, I'm awful at these. You
know that. Okay, 4 out of 5 Lil Ray Howard cameos.
How about that? Oh, okay. Wow. Okay. Or him in
that movie? That's crazy. Well, I know. Okay,
cool. I will say it shocks me a little bit that
he's in that movie. It's funny because it took
me out of it. Yeah. That's the thing about any
of those kind of cameos. And I would almost call
it a stunt cameo if he was a little bit more
popular. Right. But it's one of those things
where it's like I recognize his voice like he's
in this whole getup. But I knew exactly who he
was. But anyway. Nice. That's great. Just out
of curiosity, is this maybe a thing because of
COVID? But I did not hear about this movie until
maybe two weeks before it dropped on HBO. I'm
not particularly plugged into the film festival
circuit, so maybe it was already getting some
buzz there. It was getting buzz, but I'll say
the marketing probably wasn't as big as it would
have been if there was a theatrical release.
And I'll say... The cinematography made me want
to see this in a theater because there are so
many shots where I'm just like on a big screen.
And not to mention that I thought the score was
really well done. That is the theatrical experience
that we're really missing out on, like beyond
Marvel movies and people cheering over, you know,
Captain America getting Yulnier. Like there are
legitimate filmmaking accomplishments that are
kind of underserved when you're watching them
at home. And that sucks. Right. But this is the
reality that we're in. Captain America got...
Millionaire? Okay. If you haven't seen Endgame
by now, you're spoiling yourself. As we always
say with our show, spoilers. We're going to talk
about shit. I don't know. I feel like anyone
who understands what that sentence even means
has seen Endgame at this point. Right, exactly.
If you understand what it means, but you haven't
seen it, I applaud your nerdiness. Absolutely.
Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, Justice for Lakeith Stanfield,
I don't know why this man is not being nominated
for this role, but he is absolutely incredible.
I love Daniel Kaluuya. I feel like that guy never
misses, honestly. I feel like he's always kind
of the quiet favorite part of any movie I've
seen him in, because I loved him in Knives Out
as well, honestly. He was a good straight man,
too. I'm a little disappointed how little they
used him in Knives Out, because I think he could
have been a good part to it, too. I think there
could have been a real good back and forth, like,
at least a few times, but... Yeah, it's a different
city where just it's the Inspector goes... benoit
block yes that's right the gentleman detective
or whatever his name is um yeah it's it's yeah
yeah uh sorry i got something in my eye and it
like threw me off and so i was just like rubbing
my eye going like where was it going with this
my eye hurts um yeah sorry about that uh joe
we're gonna go to you now all right So, in the
spirit of Valentine's Day, a couple days before
Andre and I subjected ourselves to date night,
I decided to check out The Lovebirds, which came
out in 2020. It stars Kumal Nanjiani and Isa
Issa Ray. I'm not sure how to say her first name.
It's one of those things that I keep telling
myself I need to watch an interview to see how
the person introduces her. So, I say... Iza,
but I could also hear it pronounced Iza. Okay.
Wait, Issa Rae? Is that what we're talking about?
Issa Rae. Yeah, yeah. That's Issa Rae. Issa Rae.
All right, I thought I was right. Issa Rae and
Kamal Nanjiani. It is directed by Michael Showalter,
who is the same director who did The Big Sick.
He was also a writer on Wet Hot American Summer,
among other things. I was just going to say,
Wet Hot, yes! Yeah, Wet Hot American Summer.
Great film, by the way, and if you have not watched
the TV series, check it out. very funny um not
at all like a marriage story but if a marriage
story is the story of um a couple coming to the
end of their relationship and what comes next
the lovebirds is the story of a couple coming
to a pivotal moment in their relationship and
then deciding what to do what they're going to
do while kind of having a big trouble in little
china falling into a thing that's bigger than
they are and being um pulled along to figure
things out and get their names cleared. It is,
like I said, hilarious. The characters are great.
They really feel like real people. It's all set
in New Orleans, so you get some lovely cinematography
and shots of the city. I didn't know it took
place in New Orleans. That's interesting. I didn't
know it took place in New Orleans. It does. I
don't want to give away too much, but like I
said, there's a bit of a Big Trouble Little China
thing where These characters fall into something
that's bigger than they are, but they don't quite
know what's going on. Through some shenanigans,
they fall into this plot and they need to clear
their names, otherwise they're going to go to
jail. So they decide to take it upon themselves
to solve the mystery. And as the mystery unfolds,
it just gets more and more and more ridiculous.
There's a scene where they break into a house,
into an apartment building. And they do a form
of an interrogation that's just absolutely hilarious.
What it culminates is probably one of those biggest
WTF moments ever. But it works fantastically.
And there's a spontaneous sing -along moment
in a lift share. Where they sing to Katy Perry's
iconic song, Firework. And you feel it. When
the thing is going, it's like, yeah, I'm singing
along too. I'm feeling this. Is that song...
becoming one of the most used songs in movies.
And, like, I don't mean that in a bad way, because
it's a decent jam and everything like that, but,
like, I initially, the first thing that popped
in my head is The Interview. Uh, yes. Yes. Yes,
it is. Yeah. Baby, you're a firework. Go and
let your color show. I got you. I got you. Should
I leave the room? I mean, Mike, you have my clearance
to borrow my boyfriend. Oh, I got clearance.
Carte Blanche, I love it. I don't think Andre
has a say in this. Andre does not have a say
in this. these characters, I also just love these
actors, especially Kumail Nanjiani. I love the
big sick, so you actually can see a lot of similarities
between the two films, but then he filmed this
right as he was starting to get in shape for
Eternals, so there's a scene where he has to
take his shirt off because things happen, and
it's not framed in this sultry, like, let's bring
the music down real quick. Dude already had the
humor, now he just needs the body. Eh, you know,
I like all forms of Kamal Nanjiani, and Issa
Rae is also fantastic. She wears some really
great outfits throughout the movie, including
a few great dresses. She wears an adorable unicorn
onesie at one point. It's a hoodie, not a onesie.
It's just the little scenarios that they get
into to try and clear their name and figure out
what's going on. It's just hilarious. And like
I said, the ending is kind of like this big,
like, what the fuck is happening? What is this?
And to the film's credit, they don't fully explain
what exactly they have fallen into. They leave
it rather loose. I wouldn't say up to interpretation,
but they leave it rather broad, which as frustrating
as that is for me as someone who likes to like,
I want to know everything about what's going
on. It works. It really works for this film.
So you sound like you really enjoyed it. I know
that the Rotten Tomatoes scores are mediocre
at best. That's sad. Okay, do you think the ending,
because you said it ends on an open note, do
you think that's part of it? Yes. Okay. Yeah,
so, spoiler warning, I'll spoil. So if you have
any interest in seeing The Lovebirds, stop listening
to this podcast, come back. Mike couldn't figure
out the timestamps, but the plot, which is as
follows. Both of them, both characters are going
to a dinner party, and as they're driving there,
they realize their relationship is done, so they
break up. They've been together for five years.
As they reach this pivotal emotional apex, they
hit a man on a bicycle. They hit a guy. So they're
like, oh my god, we just committed manslaughter.
But no, he's okay. The guy gets up, runs off,
and then this dude hijacks their car. like i'm
gonna i'm a cop it's fine i'm after this guy
they're like yeah let's go get him run him down
and then the dude proceeds to actually run him
down and kills him so that's how they get pulled
into this and they're like okay well we can't
go to the police because they're gonna think
two people of color killed a white guy um there
were witnesses so they find his cell phone and
they go from a few different locations and they
find out that there's this underworld cult of
the rich and elite of New Orleans that is a sex
club and they have the cops working for them
but there's the guy who ran the other character
down is playing it both ways so he's offering
to keep the secrets of this cult but he's also
feeding the secrets to some other agency so he's
trying to fix any loose ends that's going to
give away that he he's ratting out the cult,
well, that he's also taking money to protect.
But they don't really go into detail on what
this cult is, why they are a thing, who's part
of it. It just seems to be the rich elite. And
it just, you know, it ends with them having a
confrontation with the original murder dude.
Things happen, the police show up, and they're
like, yeah, because of you, we were able to,
like, figure this out. But we already knew about
it, so it's fine. You don't need to know anymore.
Oh. Because the police know, the characters don't
need to know. Interesting. Okay. They wash their
hands of that. Okay. And, yay, Kamal and Iza's
characters are like, we're not going to break
up after all. We've rediscovered why we want
to be together. Yeah. Okay. You know, it just
is, the fact that the cops are like, we already
know what's going on. So it's, you know, it's
fine. You don't have to explain anything. Ergo,
we don't have to explain it to you. That's pretty
frustrating. Yeah, okay. Interesting. Yeah, I
could definitely see how that would sway some
things. Yeah. Okay, what would you rate this
then? I was just going to say, take the grease.
That was in the trailer. You absolutely should
take the grease. Interesting. It's one of those
ones that was on my list, but I just never got
to it. It was a fun evening. I don't know how
I'd feel if I had paid to see it walking out
with that ending. Now on Netflix, I would have
considered it more, but honestly, meh. Yeah.
Okay. I guess that brings it to the bad movie
of the week. Oh, boy. Yeah. I've been waiting
for this. Before I get to that, I'm in the basement.
I have two window vantage points, and I just
saw somebody drop off a package. Happy podcasting
news as it's happening. I bought a two -terabyte
drive that will help us be better. My computer,
it'll stop being so slow. And it'll be great.
So I got a cheap two terabyte drive. I think
it just got delivered. I'm going to check after
this. But it's honestly, I'm really excited about
it because then I don't have to carry all this
stuff on my computer and it's going to be a little
faster. That's happy podcast news. The sad podcast
news is I watched a terrible movie. Yep. We did
another Sporkle quiz. Came down to the final
question. And the final question was about Bad
Boys, which is the one film series that is in
my blind spot. And it was a 50 -50 guess, and
I guessed wrong. So, I had to see a romance movie
because it is February, the season of love, Valentine's
Day, and everything. I did a poll on our Twitter.
I usually, when I lose the bad movie, I usually
do a poll because I want to know what you, the
audience, wants to see. The options were Aloha,
the movie with Emma Stone, Bradley Cooper, where
Emma Stone plays an Asian character. Yep. It
almost was that, and we would have had a different
discussion. It's supposed to be Japanese. Like
half Japanese, right? Yeah. So it would have
been an interesting discussion if that would
have been the winner. The Hottie and the Nottie,
which features Paris Hilton. Which is one of
those, like, coming of age, oh, she was a pretty
girl all the time. You just didn't get to know
her movie. Shout out to belated happy birthday
to Paris Hilton. She just turned 40 and got engaged.
40 and engaged. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I know. 40,
right? I'm like, oh, my God. Wow. You feel so
old now. I'm surprised she's 40, and I'm also
surprised she's engaged. Like, people... It's
like her fourth or fifth time. Jesus. Okay. The
third movie was The Last Summer, which features
KJ Apa, which, good for him. He's getting out
there. He's doing bad movies, but good for him.
The guy who plays Archie on Riverdale. And it
looked like a Nicholas Sparks movie. And the
last one is the one that won. It is Vampire Boys.
Were you really surprised it was going to be
that that was going to be the winner? I'm actually
surprised how close the poll was. Because Vampire
Boys, like, when I posted the picture, I was
like, this one's winning. Like, it's just winning.
It's not a question or anything like that. It
was tied on our Twitter poll. Luckily, we had
three votes on our Instagram. So if you're not
voting on Twitter, make sure to vote on Instagram.
You guys can't see me on our Google Meet call
because I have my notes pulled up. These are
from February 11th when I watched the movie.
At 12, 12 a .m. was the last time it was saved.
So it was late. Yes, 1212. Wow. Yeah. So let's
talk about Vampire Boys. The very beginning is
four vampires that do not wear shorts. Do not
wear shirts. Shorts. I was going to say, so they
don't wear pants the entire movie? No, they don't.
They don't wear shirts for most of the time the
four of them are together. Three quarters of
the movie definitely bare -chested for all of
them. The only one that really wears a shirt
is the main vampire. And he only really wears
a shirt in, like, social situations. You know?
How respectful. To blend in? Does no one know
he's a vampire? He's a 20 -year -old, so he goes
to college. So he's a 20 -year -old forever.
Just imagine being 20 forever. Because he said
20. I'm not saying 21. 20. Okay, so is this like,
he doesn't age at all. It's not like he's 20
for like 100 years. He's just 20. He is 20 for
however long. He's been around since 1700s, I
think is what it was. I don't actually have a
specific note on that. Maybe the 1800s, but you
know, 1700s, 1800s, one of those. Gotcha. So
the very beginning starts black and white, and
I'm like, oh. Is this a black and white movie?
They are chasing a gang of teenagers or high
schoolers or college people, whatever it is,
and they feed on them. But that is the only part
that is black and white of this entire movie.
So off to a great start. And then the voiceover
comes in. Los Angeles, the city of angels. Let's
hope I find the one. That is the exact quote.
I have it in quotes because I want to talk about...
At this point, I was very confused. Who's the
one? Why is the one? Where is the one? Then we
get introduced to one of the main characters.
Caleb? Maybe he's Caleb. I didn't actually take
notes on which one is the actual main character.
Caleb. Yeah. So Caleb is moving in with his buddy,
Paul. Caleb gets into the bedroom and there's
a cross in there. And Caleb knocks it down. And
I was just like, ooh, symbolism. Here it is,
you know? But then I realized the picture that
I have for Vampire Boys is they are all wearing
cross necklaces. Oh. Yes. When did this movie
come out, just out of curiosity? Um, do -do -do
-do. It was 2010. right? Yes, it is post -Twilight
for sure. At least the first one. It's probably
mid -Twilight craze, right? Like, didn't the
last movies come out in, like, 2011 or something
like that? So, when I say post -Twilight, I guess
it's, like, in the craze, but, like, Twilight
has hit. Yes. It has definitely hit at this point.
Um, the camera coloring I made a point on at
this point is, like, it's sepia -toned. Um, You
know, it's kind of loose focus, so the lights
are almost too bright for most of these. It's
very bright. The next comments I have are, they
are looking for the one, they don't wear shirts.
So, these four vampires, they are obviously a
brood together. They are looking for the one.
They never really clarify why they need to find
the one, but they need to find the one or something
will happen. If... Just something. Yes. I'm getting
very Matrix vibes from this. Like, I don't even...
I don't even know. Probably just because we just
watched it, but... Okay. Sounds like they're
all Morpheus. I don't know. A little bit, yeah.
You're looking for their trinity. The main vampire
is Jason. J -A -S -I -N. J -A -S -I -N? Okay,
Jason. Oh, so we can have Sin in his name. Ooh,
so we know it's bad. Yes. Yep. Cool. So we obviously
learned that Caleb is probably the one, but we
don't know why at this point it's just like focusing
on him. But so Caleb, it's funny to me. This
is the line I included in this. He's hanging
out with his roommate, Paul, and he's wearing
a V -neck, but it's not really a V -neck. It
is a U -neck. And I'm going to come back to the
video so you guys can see. It is down to here.
Like it's like almost a little bit like. It is
one inch away from just showing nipples. So it's
like, if anyone's here seeing 50 First Dates,
it's like whatever Sean Astin is wearing. Yes.
Like he's wearing mesh shirts. Yes. Like not
necessarily. Okay. All right, vampire boys. And
so they're hanging out at the school. They're
talking and everything like that. He comes across.
Jason and it's just like a quick fleeting moment
but you kind of see that Jason and him lock eyes
and you're like ooh maybe they uh you know maybe
there's something there uh it's the next morning
and Caleb comes out of his room with Paul Paul
is cooking breakfast and Caleb is just in like
these like tight ass underwear that is all he
is wearing alright Yes, exactly. You see what's
happening here. It also had a dream sequence
where he had these vivid dreams about Jason,
but yet he can't remember what happens. And it's
obviously vivid dreams. He knows exactly what
happened. Oh, yes, I included a note. Hey, they
are wearing shirts. There is one point where
they are wearing shirts. The vampire. Yeah, it's
character development. They must have been close
to social interaction. Um, so the reason they
are wearing shirts is because they are hunting
again. And this scene, this, this is the scene.
This is when I knew this movie could have been
decent because it had, it has a pretty decent
love story. I will say, you know, it's very ham
-fisted about like, okay, you can be gay and
it's okay. Like that kind of stuff. This is the
scene where I knew I was in for a bad movie.
So there is two guys and a girl that are walking
along this trail in California. Los Angeles,
the city of angels. They stop and the girl looks
at the other guy and is flirting with him. first
guy is kind of like hey like what are you doing
we're a couple like that kind of stuff and she
goes two of us make a couple three is and then
she bites her lip and it's just like oh yeah
she's going like the mitchell play -by -play
right there uh mitchell play -by -play give me
it yeah there it is so sultry yes let me know
real quick oh daddy You should ask Kelly if you
should invest in U -shirts. Oh, I know. I think
she would be just a huge fan of that investment.
Like, yeah, we're about to put a down payment
on this fucking apartment, but let me go buy
some U -shirts. That would be a really worthy
investment. No, not U -shirts. You need the mesh
shirts that we were talking about from 50 First
Dates. That's the better call. Maybe there's
a combo out there. Yeah. So this girl is going
hardcore for a threesome. She wants some. Good
for her. Use your words. Huh? Good for her. Use
your words. Yes. But she will not let either
of them touch her until the two guys make out
a little bit. Okay. The two guys make out. It
does happen. And this is, again, what I said
was about it being, like, it could have been
good and everything like that, but it was just
ham -fisted, like, it's okay to be gay, that
kind of stuff. They take off their pants, and
I saw dicks. Wait, what's this movie rated? R.
I thought this movie was going to be, like, PG
-13. Nope. Wait, wait, wait. What? Isn't that
a porno? There is actual, like, flaccid penis
in this. Oh, but it's not erect. It doesn't count.
Not erect, but it still counts. I saw dick. All
right. I'm going to look this up, but I think
there has to be that difference in order for
it to be rated R as opposed to rated NC -17 or
whatever. Interesting. I'm going to look that
up. I'm going to look that up while you guys...
So I would agree with you just because, like,
it was obviously flaccid dick. Okay. Yeah. So
I... You didn't know what you were... yourself
into until that moment. Nope, I did not. And,
like, it's not a full porno. This is the only
time Dix is out. No, seriously, it was very tasteful.
Dix out. Sorry. I couldn't help it. No, but,
like, seriously, I'm just sitting here going,
hey, I wonder what our preview's gonna be on
our Twitter when I release this episode. It's
gonna be this. Yeah, so there's dicks out. And
then all of a sudden, popped out in the trails
is four shirtless vampires. Alright. And they
come in and they're just like, hey, we see you're
having a threesome. How about a sixsome? No.
And it's that kind of voice and everything. Like,
it is bad. I included a note, what are these
voices? Because they're talking to them. We've
heard these vampires talk before. We know what
they sound like, yet they're coming up to them
like, ooh, we see you want some more. Oh, they're
doing the Batman voice. Yeah, I guess so. Yep.
So, yeah, it is not good. Meanwhile, Jason is
inviting Caleb on a date. He has a vest and untucked
shirt combo because I feel like it was important
to include what he was wearing there. But that
vest and untucked shirt, the vest ends about
here. Okay. And the shirt is unbuttoned to the
vest top. So he still has like a V -neck, U -neck
going on to see a little chest. Okay. Yeah. They
decide that the... So... I have an update on
the penises. If we want to wait or... No, penises,
go. This is according to the director of Neighbors
2, Sorority Rising, Nicholas Stoller, and he
also worked on Forgetting Sarah Marshall, which
is where he picked up this information. Quote,
I never had any issues at the MPAA. That's who
does ratings. If it's R -rated, you can basically
do anything. You just can't show erect. penis
this is the thing with the penis as uh he holds
his hand and he shows how uh erect it could be
it goes r r r nc 17 including flopping so if
you want to flop the penis has to move left to
right in order for it to be all right Exactly.
It's too high of a suggestion of sexual intercourse
with the erect penis. So that seems to be the
discerning difference. This whole entire conversation
just took me back to watching Your Highness in
theaters. I've been waiting to watch that fucking
movie with the fucking... Oh, yeah. That was
like a human dick, right? No. What is happening?
I've never seen it. Anyways, you don't need to
see it. I don't want to talk about the movie
anymore. Please continue, Mike. Hey, Mike, when
you started a movie podcast, did you expect to
talk about flaccid penises? In a way, we just
had the more you know. Flaccid miniature penises.
Yeah. Whatever. Still. given us a review, don't
say that we haven't given you anything of value
after listening to this podcast. You now know
the difference between an R -rated dick and an
NC -17 X -rated dick. You're welcome. And when
that question comes up in trivia, you will get
it right. Absolutely. Oh, I'm sending this to
my trivia boss and letting him know this needs
to be a question next week. Okay, so Caleb and
Jason are going on a date. Good for them. Caleb
asks, what's your deal? And Jason is like, what
do you mean, what's my deal? And he goes, I noticed
you had this girl all over you. That's when we
first learn her name is Tara. Tara is who they
thought was the one before Caleb. But Jason just
feels this sense with Caleb. He just knows. Caleb
must be the one. Also, we need to talk about
Paul. Paul is Caleb's roommate who obviously
likes Caleb. So Jason turns it on him and was
just like, what about Paul? And he goes, oh,
I just live with Paul. Paul's fine. Paul wouldn't
hurt a fly. Obviously, later in the movie, Paul
actually admits his feelings. They decide to
go to another trail to hang out and talk. This
trail is by where these rednecks are shooting
cans. This is the best scene of the movie by
far because they obviously told these rednecks
they need to be having a conversation or something
like that to be background noise. I'm not even
joking you when I tell you. that these rednecks
say at one point, rabble, rabble, rabble. Sorry,
I was on mute. Wait, what? Wait, okay, so are
they fans of South Park, the creators of this
movie? Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. No, legitimately,
so they're just like, rabble, rabble, rabble.
It sounds to me like they're leaning into the
quality of the film that they just made. Maybe.
It seems very self -aware. Yeah. Maybe. And honestly,
I wouldn't be surprised. Again, there's a sequel
to this movie. I wouldn't be surprised if there's
more of this, but it's a completely different
cast. So I've become invested with Caleb and
Jason and everything like that, but no. Well,
they're shooting these... these cans and one
bullet ricochets and it hits jason oh no jason's
been shot also these fake gunshots because these
guns like they're they're holding the guns but
it has like that like fake uh paint flash kind
of thing you know like the it's terrible cgi
flashes to make it look like the gun is flashing
like uh is being shot so jason is shot so he
needs to undo his vest and shirt combo so that
we can see his chest again. So Caleb and Jason
he's like explaining that he's a vampire and
blah blah blah and like he doesn't feel things
like this. And then the scene ends. Well then
Paul and Caleb are it's later and they're in
their they're in their house. Paul kisses Caleb
and Caleb's like what the fuck's wrong with you?
I don't know exactly what happened because I
included the line and I just don't remember it.
I included the note, these line reads and this
camera is killing me. It's tearing you apart,
Lisa. Yes. The next scene is definitely the vampires
because it goes, I've been wearing pants wrong
all this time. And I know what it's referencing
because you know that V? Like that V that...
Some men have when they have abs and stuff. Yes,
I am quite familiar. Me too. Oh, yeah. I'm not.
I drink too much beer. I'm in some low waist
jeans. Yeah, they got some low waist jeans where
it's a button away from penis out again. I watched
that show and I can't remember it, but yeah,
okay. Caleb is very upset that Jason is a vampire
and so he gets all moody in his underwear again.
Convinced that Tara was the one before Caleb
is basically the bad guy. So the bad guy is Logan.
Logan is part of the vampire brood. And he doesn't
want to get hurt because Jason won't find the
one. So he's like trying to convince him. No,
it's Tara. You were so certain. It's Tara. Be
in love with Tara and make it happen. And Jason's
like, let a vampire be in love. I included the
note. Why does he need to be in love? What happens
if he isn't? Logan says Caleb is a phase. And
so this is where I get to the ham -fisted, like,
it's okay to be gay. Because this is all kinds
of metaphors for, like, homophobia and that kind
of stuff. Like, he's trying to convince them
that it's just a phase kind of thing. Tara is,
like, all for wanting to be a vampire. She's
just like, bite me, make me a vampire. I'm totally
in for it. Caleb is not so certain. It's like,
anytime I think of Caleb, I'm like, okay, bro,
you're a vampire. Stop lying. Stop lying. Isn't,
like, the main character of the movie The Covenant
named Caleb? Oh, I can totally see that. Yeah,
if you're Caleb, you're probably living a horror
movie, and I want nothing to do with you. Except
for Caleb's, who like and subscribe to Game for
a Movie, of course, and I just want to hang out
with you and be your best friend. We're getting
so pushy on this. I love it. So, basically, Tara
wants to be a vampire. Caleb doesn't. It flashes
to the next scene. Caleb is hanging out with
Jason. Jason is just telling him all of the myths
about vampires that this universe has created.
Please share. The sun only destroys elder vampires,
not him. What's an elder vampire? They never
go into it. Decapitation is the only way to kill
a vampire, not wooden stakes. I think there's
actually some background lore on that. Yeah.
And then the best one was this line. So Caleb
goes, well, you can't see yourself in a mirror,
right? And Jason goes, the hair can only look
this good with a mirror. So they do have reflections.
They do have reflections. They talk about the
crosses that they wear around their necks. They
can still be religious. That's not a part of
it. Because they're good Christian boys that
are gay. You know. I don't know. This movie.
Caleb has 24 hours to make a decision about whether
or not to become a vampire. Logan the vampire
is now getting very upset. Because Caleb obviously
is not going to make the choice. Oh, and there
was, goddammit, there was a great scene. So,
Jason comes over to Caleb's place, and he's just
standing outside the door, and Caleb's like,
what's wrong? And Jason goes, you have to invite
me in, that one actually counts. Oh, okay. So,
Jason comes into the house. And he's basically
saying, like, you gotta make a decision, otherwise,
like, I'm gonna turn Tara and she's going to
be a vampire forever. You have to make a decision
whether you love me or not. Caleb's frustrated
and flustered and whatever. Logan and the rest
of the vampires come with Tara, and they basically,
um, they basically, like, threaten that Caleb
needs to choose now. It's no longer 24 hours.
And Logan is very upset. He does the first vampire
hiss. The first... Yes. Drama. Yep, all the drama.
We learn in a throwaway line that Jason created
Logan because he didn't want to be alone anymore.
So Logan was like the first to be of the brood.
Mm -hmm. And, um... What else is there? Okay,
so Logan holds Tara and bites her and turns her
into a vampire. But they still are, like, worried
that she's not the one. And so then Jason says
to Caleb, Will you die to live forever with me?
That's definitely for the trailer. What? Will
you die to live forever... With me. Wow. Okay.
You can almost hear the power ballad chords.
Yeah, okay. They get into this huge fight, and
this fight lasts all of 30 seconds, and Logan
gets decapitated. Bye, Logan. And then Caleb
decides, sure, I'll do it. And this movie was
an hour and, like, ten minutes. It's not very
long at all. The only question I have at the
end is, what happened to Paul? Who cares? And
then the credits roll, and one of the rednecks
was named Creep Creeperson. Okay. Somebody didn't
want to have the real name attached to this film?
Yep. No, no, no, that's the character's name.
No, no, no, no, no, no. It is the actor's name,
Creep Creeperson. And then the last thing I had
from the credits were there was four original
songs in this movie, all by one of the vampires.
Okay. That's interesting. So, Mike, what is your
favorite song on this soundtrack? Yeah, what's
notable? None. None? But you actually gave it
a listen, it sounds like. Well, duh, it was in
the movie. and really pick out your favorite.
How come you're not appreciating the vehicle
that they made this for that guy's solo? Yeah,
honestly, that could have been a CD versus a
movie. It's a concept album. A concept album,
exactly. Oh, my God. So this movie, yeah, it's
Vampire Boys. I feel like I've talked way too
long about this. I do have a few quick questions,
though. Shoot, go ahead. How many female characters
are actually in this movie? How many of them
are vampires? Three are in this movie. One is
a vampire, Tara. The other two die. The other
two die. I guess technically there's some background
characters. There's extras that are in a college
scene or two. But other than that, they have
no speaking role. Gay love story. Not versus
like, no, it's a story with vampires and there's
subtext. It is a gay movie with vampires added
in. You know what? Good for them. It could have
been good. I'm going to jump into something that
I just want to be addressed. I do not care if
you're gay. I love you still. You're awesome.
Please. You have an ally here. I am not dissing
anybody who is gay. We lost myself. No, we lost
myself. Oh, there's very much a butt. No. No,
no, no. I don't think there was a butt. No, I
just wanted to address that from the beginning.
I'm not attacking this movie because of the gay
love story. Okay. Okay. Okay. The intention of
the film is that, like, it's secretly a gay story,
but we did a horrible job of keeping that secret
versus, like, no, we know what we are and we're
not hiding it. I think this movie would have
been better as a gay love story with no vampires.
It looks confusing. Yeah, I agree 100%. I mean,
like, literally the only reason they needed that
was for climax purposes of you have 24 hours
to choose if you want to live forever by being
dead forever. And we still don't know what was
going to happen if he didn't find the one. Yeah,
no, we don't. I mean, he's supposed to become
an elder vampire. That's what we know. But it
didn't say, like, if he didn't become an elder
vampire, all of a sudden his head just explodes.
You know, like, they never said that. Hmm. Interesting.
Yep. Alright, so you're going to give it 5 out
of 5 stars, right? Oh, 100 % a no. I am giving
it half a cross necklace out of five, the old
Mitchell zero there. Wow, that's two cross necklace
ratings in this episode, by the way. Just wanted
to shut that out. Yeah. Wow, all right. That's
better. Yeah, it's, you know, I mean, I understand
why people made this movie. So it's funny because
one of our Twitter followers actually knows the
guy who was Jason. Yeah. And so, like, I thought
about it. I really thought about reaching out
to him and, like, interviewing from the show.
Maybe we'll do, like, a .5 episode where it's
just, like, an interview with him. Or a Patreon,
you listeners. Or a Patreon listeners. Do we
have a Patreon? No. Not yet. Maybe we do. I wasn't
ever going to make this a Patreon, but if you
guys want to make a Patreon, we'll talk about
it. You know, it's just more so I want to give
people content and not charge people. But if
people want to buy a Patreon, if they would support
us like that, I will listen to them and say,
okay, sure. But we'll talk about that later.
It's much later. The guy who played Jason now
is an agent down in Atlanta. And so he's doing
well, too. Like, I've heard he's doing pretty
well. Again, I'll reach out to him. I don't think
there's any harm in reaching out to him and saying,
hey, maybe we do a .5 with you. Like, here's
Vampire Boys. We want to talk about it. And then
we want to talk about you, obviously, because
nobody wants to hear another episode about Vampire
Boys. I don't know. Think about your audience.
They may want another episode about Vampire Boys.
Yeah, they might want the sequel, man. Well,
I'm going to make one of you guys watch the sequel
for... You already did the light work. I think
if you did the sequel, you'd have to watch the
first one, so we'd just make it a double dip
of bad. Double dip of bad. Yeah, so, yeah. Yeah,
so I give it a Mitchell zero. Yeah, we're going
to take a quick break here. We're going to listen
to a promo from our friends across the pond.
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us out, so thank you guys. Gaz and Dange, you're
fantastic. That brings us to our newest and best
segment. Maybe best. I don't know. People like
the bad movies a lot. Our segment is called Hashtag
Cash or Trash. Which Mitchell is possibly working
on a theme song for. We're going to throw that
on him. I'm actually, as we're speaking, working
on our little merch idea that we were talking
about during the break. So that's a little spoiler,
a little tease. Please. Please. I like that you
shirt. Yeah, please. Oh, yeah, we can get the
vampire you shirt. Oh, my God. If you have ideas
what we should do, what you would like to see
merch for, we have a few ideas ourselves. But
if you have ideas of merch you'd like to see,
we're talking about a merch store. It would be
really great. But, yeah. So we move to our hashtag
Cash or Trash. Welcome, everyone. To my wife,
Claire. Hi. Claire. Hey, Claire. Hey. Claire
decided to join us for this because she saw a
recently streaming movie. Babe, what'd you see?
Well, if this means anything to anybody, right
before we started recording, I had to ask Mike
what the name of it was, so there's that. Well,
I already forgot it again. Was it The Little
Things? If you hear this latest, just facepalm.
That's me. Yeah. So I watched The Little Things,
which was streaming on HBO Max. And you could
see it in theaters, I guess. But we have HBO
back, so I'm not going to theaters. It was all
right. I mean, it has Denzel Washington. Remy
Malek. Remy Malek. I mean, it's your typical
detective. Has a past. There's a new case that
reels him back in. I don't know. It was very
predictable. That's what I would say. A classic
noir film. Yes. And I mean, I love Denzel. And
at the beginning, I was really intrigued. But
towards the end, where it should have been the
most exciting. I was like, oh, I think I should
just go do my laundry now. And maybe clean some
dishes. Shit, we have laundry. That laundry that's
been sitting there for a week? I should probably
do something about that. So, I mean, it was fine,
but I would say trash. Completely trash. into
the bin it goes yeah into the bin and I'm not
even that critical of movies like you guys are
so that says something so Andre oh it's me yeah
okay alright my catch of trash for this week
is not a movie it is a TV series called Ted Lasso
streaming on Apple TV Plus I think that's the
full streaming service name at this point yeah
and the high level concept is that Jason Sudeikis
stars as Ted Lasso He is an American college
football coach. And we got to specify, football?
College American football pigskin coach. And
gets brought over to England to coach a Premier
League team, AFC Richmond. So he gets brought
over to teach an actual football team, what the
Americans would call a soccer team. This is based
off of a series of promos, I think it was NBC
Sports that ran for the World Cup, where Jason
Sudeikis, Ted Lasso, has to do a press interview
where he's a fish out of water, doesn't understand
soccer at all, but tries to treat it like a football
game. And I feel like the expectations of that
are, I don't even know, I'm shocked at how good
this show is, considering that it could have
easily been the equivalent of... that Geico show
where they try to make a TV show out of the caveman,
you know, from those Geico commercials. I remember
that. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I mean, uh, it's, it's
10 episodes long right now for this first season.
We're eight, Jill and I are eight episodes in
and I am kind of stunned at how good it is. Uh,
it's super heartfelt. Um, it's, it's, uh, I believe
it has the, the, Bill Lawrence is producing it,
so he's the guy, he's the creator of Scrubs,
and you can definitely see that lineage in that
show. If you at all enjoyed Scrubs and the kind
of humor that show had, I think Ted Lasso would
be a very comfortable fit for you. Ted Lasso's
constant optimism and good heartedness is very
infectious. You really want to root for the guy
to succeed, and you just love seeing him triumph
over all of the cynics that are around him. And
it's just, I don't know, it's a... it's refreshing
to watch a comedy show that's not at all rooted
in cynicism. You know what I mean? Not to say
that I don't like my fair share of cynic comedy,
but it's been really refreshing and super uplifting
to watch this show. And I don't know, I can't
get enough of it. It's very wholesome. Yes, indeed,
very wholesome. What am I going to think about
it? In terms of the adaptation part of it, Andre,
you know, Bill Lawrence is the producer on it
who, you know, helped Scrubs and all that kind
of stuff or created Scrubs. When they were looking
back at the old commercials, him and Sudeikis
were, you know, developing the show and they
realized, you know, you can't build an entire,
you know, 10 episode. based on this guy who is
just so unlikable. Because if you look back at
those commercials, he knows nothing about soccer,
yet he digs his heels in and is determined to
show people that he knows what's right, regardless
of not knowing the sport. And this is how the
character came off in those old Premier League
commercials. But now they converted it to where
he still knows nothing, but he wants to learn.
he wants to actually assimilate or become part
of the soccer culture that he's now adopting.
So that, I think, is part of the charm, where
this guy understands that he's a fish out of
water, but he's here for the ride, and so are
you guys, so let's have some fun. And a treat
to watch, I totally agree. Very refreshing for
me. Nice. Yeah, I mean, exactly. It would have
been so easy to make Ted's character unlikable
and look great, but, I mean... Hydration specialist.
of potential in him and and kind of brings out
his confidence and in turn learns more about
the game as a result of kind of forming that
relationship and i don't know it's there's that's
just one and many examples of all these characters
are pretty well written and i'm super invested
so uh yeah definitely cash for me uh the only
downside is that it's on apple tv plus so not
as accessible as say hulu or netflix or something
like that but if you have access to the service
definitely that's that would be one of the first
shows i'd recommend to watch Okay, Mitchell,
what would you say, cash or trash? Oh, cash 100%.
In dollars and in pounds and in euros, whatever
you want to pay this thing in, give me some cash
on Ted Lasso. They are doing a season two. I
don't want to spoil it for Andre and Jill, but
they set themselves up nicely for an additional
season. Excellent. And I think I'm just very
eager to head over to London again and hang out
with Ted Lasso for another 10 episodes. It sounds
exciting to me. Nice. Yeah. It's a shame that
it's COVID times because this really put me in
the mood to watch soccer, football. It's one
of those sports that I do genuinely enjoy and
look forward to whenever the World Cup is coming
around. There's still soccer. Now I just want
to go watch a soccer game. Do you want to watch
in person, though? Is that the difference? Yeah,
I've never been to a live soccer game before,
and isn't there a soccer field right near Colt
Park? Yep. Oh, yeah, they just opened it up.
It's like, oh, when COVID is in the rearview
mirror, it would be fantastic to go and watch
and have a day. I was actually talking about
that yesterday with one of my friends going to
soccer games. And I forgot that we had one here,
but we do. So we should go to a game, friends,
whenever we can. So, Jill, what did you bring
to the table for cash or trash? Wilson is playing
a character who's living in a rather drab world.
He runs into Salma Hayek's character who basically
tells him everything around you is not real,
but you are. This is all a simulation and it
kind of goes off from there. I told Mitchell
this. The reviews for it are not kind. It's not
doing very well. I'm actually looking it up right
now on IMDb to see how low it is. But the user
reviews are interesting. Quite a few people are
actually praising the film for its depiction
of addiction, which, you know, that's not some,
you know, a hidden metaphor that you have to
be looking with a, you know, a microscope to
find. It's very, it hits you in the face with
how much of a metaphor it is about addiction.
And I'll give it that, that it is, you know,
that component works. It's just disappointing
how we get there and the lazy world building
and it just... This movie is one giant plot cul
-de -sac. It does not go anywhere. Plot cul -de
-sac, okay. I've never heard that term, but I
love that. You've never heard that term before?
Never. Yeah, I'm not taking credit for coming
up with it. But yeah, it is a plot cul -de -sac.
There was three terms on this show that I've
never heard before. The plot cul -de -sac, and
then Mitchell, or no, Andre, you said I was...
No, that as well, but that was a different show
that I've heard that. Andre, why do I keep saying
Mitchell? Andre was saying earlier, I was very
whelmed. Yes, very whelmed. And that was another
term that is an Andre classic. Jill, I give you
the plot cul -de -sac. That's pretty good. Thank
you. So review -wise on IMDb, it's got a 5 .3
out of 10. So it's very much hitting the middle
of the road. So that leaves you with cash or
trash. What do you decide? It is absolutely trash.
It's absolutely refreshing to see Owen Wilson
in a film again. Salma Hayek is always great
to see as well. This is just middling and disappointing
and lazy. Like if you do decide to watch this
film, you're going to get to a point where you
find out kind of everything that's going on and
why it's happening. And when you get to like
the explanation. It is so, like, oh, I want to
wring this movie's neck. That is so stupid. Oh,
God. I'll tell you when we're not recording what
it is. Yeah, for sure. No, especially because,
yeah, I'm probably not going to check it out.
There are other movies out there that do a plot
like this. You can find better films. Okay. So,
trash. So, I guess that brings me to mine. Mine
is Willy's Wonderland, the new Nick Cage movie.
I rented it. Huh? He's your favorite. I do love
Nick Cage, actually. I know. And I'm very excited
to hear what he did next. Yeah, so Nick Cage
in this movie says zero words. Zero. Oh, okay.
The entire movie? All the people who hated Mad
Max because the women talk too much, they'll
like this movie. The entire movie, Nick Cage
says nothing. Wow. Okay. I mean, he gets some
primal yells, but I don't count that as words.
So, silent video game protagonist. Yes, he is
a silent video game protagonist, and that is
a great way of putting it. So, his car breaks
down in this town. He has to pay cash to get
it fixed. He doesn't have cash, and there's not
an ATM in this entire town. So what is he going
to do? Well, the sheriff suggests, what if he
goes works at Willy's Wonderland? Basically,
he just has to spend an overnight cleaning the
entire Willy's Wonderland before it reopens.
Why does this feel like a game? And popular.
Nights at Freddy's, it seems like. It is very
much so. And I think that's the reason why he
doesn't say anything, is I think they, like,
like, sprinted out this script and said, okay,
we're doing this before the Five Nights at Freddy's
movie comes out. Which is supposed to be a thing.
I didn't even know that there is supposed to
be a Five Nights at Freddy's movie. Oh, they've
been talking about it for a very long time. Oh
my god. I thought that's what this was. It was
like, oh, Scott Coughlin, because I think there
are The guy who does Five Nights at Freddy's,
Scott. Scott Cawthon, yeah. Yeah, maybe he was
like, you know what? Too much to deal with. Let's
just start fresh, and it's Willy's Wonderland.
Yes. So, Willy's Wonderland, basically, the animatronic
animals come to life, and they demand a human
sacrifice. There's some high schoolers involved
that get sacrificed as well. The town is all
in on it. You learn a lot more. Yeah, you learn
a lot more as you go into it. I'm going to have
two ratings for this film. So the first one is
cash. It is exactly what I wanted it to be. Don't
go in expecting an Oscar winner. You're not getting
an Oscar winner. But when you want to just see
Nick Cage go to town being a weird character,
destroying animatronic animals, you got the movie.
Like, that is the film. The second rating for
it is because of the high rental price. It was
$20 to rent this for 48 hours. $20? If I didn't
really want to see it, I would not have spent
that money. And he didn't tell me he spent that
much money until just this second. Yes, exactly.
netflix or something i didn't realize it was
no you have to pay for the rental when it falls
down i would highly suggest seeing it um when
it's free or when it's like maybe five bucks
five bucks i would be okay with like a 48 hour
rental period this was 20 bucks for a 48 hour
rental period um i'll be honest i was half in
the bag and just decided this was a good idea
i was doing one of our hashtag boozing and tweetings
and then I was doing it on The Princess Bride,
which is fun because I haven't watched that one
in a long time. It's such a good movie. Yeah,
if you sign on to our Twitter, trust me, you
want some of these Boozins and Tweetins because
I picked some fun movies. I've done Batman and
Robin. I've done Princess Bride. I've done Eurovision.
No, that was me last night, actually. Yeah, Jill
did Shrek. Jill also did Cats. What? Oh God.
Yes. I do not love cats. Yes. But make sure you're
following her Twitter for that because honestly,
it really, it's some fun stuff. I like to interact
with people as I'm doing it. But so I was like
half in the bag when I finished Princess Bride
and just said, you know what? I've wanted to
see Woolies Wonderland. I'm going to drop the
money. I would not spend 20 bucks on it again.
I don't blame you for saying that. Yeah. So it
is very much, Trash for the $20 rental, cash
for the $5 rental or lower. Okay. Okay. And again,
don't expect a great movie. It's exactly what
you want for a stupid action movie where Nick
Cage says nothing and is just ridiculous and
gives out these primal yells of just... Yeah.
But funny enough, the fact that he doesn't say
anything does actually make the movie a bit more
interesting to me. Right? Yeah, yeah, no, it's
definitely, sorry, we were distracted over here.
Someone just got engaged. Congratulations to
them. I can't actually see the picture, so I
don't know exactly who. I'm a distracting presence.
I'm sorry, everyone. Congratulations, buddy.
King Claire. Oh, yay. Thanks a lot. Congrats.
It's only been over a year. 15 minutes, babe.
Oh, my God, stop. That'll do it for this episode
of Game for a Movie. We appreciate you listening.
I have been your host, Mike. I've been joined
by... I'm going to Claire first so you guys can
see... Claire. Andre. Jill. Mitchell. We'll see
you guys next time on Game for a Movie where
we ask, are you game for a movie? Cash or trash.