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You know what that sound means? It's another

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episode of Game for a Movie where we ask, are

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you game for a movie? I am your host, Mike. I

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am joined by... Mitchell. And Jill. We got a

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three -person team today. But just because we're

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three people does not mean Andre and T -Dog aren't

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here in spirit. Oh, T -Dog. I hope Andre's not

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gone off to the land where T -Dog has. Did T

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-Dog die? He went to New York. That's enough.

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It's more like another dimension or, you know,

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Narnia to our middle earth. The worst part is

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so like, so we live in middle earth. Of course

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we live in middle earth. I like them hobbits.

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We believe in second breakfast here. Um, it's

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true. Yeah. Well, he doesn't want to watch the

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bad movie. Yeah. That's the issue. He wants to

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play the game, but doesn't want to suffer the

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consequences when he inevitably loses. I need

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him back, though, because I've been losing lately.

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This previous time, I can't believe it. Mitchell,

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you said that you could do a backflip, and I

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said no, and Jill believed in you, and you did

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that backflip, and I had to lose. I cannot believe

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it. Not only did I do a backflip, I did it in

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a pike, so that would be worth a lot of points

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in gymnastics. Yeah. On the record, we were blasting

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the Tony Hawk Pro Skater soundtrack while all

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this was going down. It was rad. And the sparklers

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at the end when you landed were pretty solid,

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too. Just lovely. Yeah. And also, the costume.

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Yeah. Exactly. The Leo cost about, you know,

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$20 ,000 for me, but I think it was worth it.

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And the salute I gave to the judges at the end,

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as you said, but the sparklers, it definitely

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helped. Yeah, I can't believe you pulled it off,

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man. And especially, I can't believe you got

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in that Leo. Nice. Sounds very fancy. For today's

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Sunday edition of our recording session, I work

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out afterwards, so I don't want to drink and

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regret my life choices. But I'm drinking a delicious

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vanilla Earl Grey from Tea Leaves Company. Highly

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recommend if you're a tea fan. Nice. Yeah, your

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daily tea with me is always a blast. They're

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more like, not bi -daily, but like every other

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day daily. There are some people in the tea blogging

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community who, hats off to them, they post many,

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many pictures a day, do it every day. There are

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some days where I just want to keep the tea to

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myself, where I'm like, I am drinking it, but,

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you know, secret. There you go. And I am rocking

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the Cerberus One from Labyrinth Brewing Company

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in Manchester, Connecticut. Connecticut's finest.

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Cerberus is a New England IPA. And they have

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like three different ones, I believe, but all

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of them are triple dry hopped with different

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hops. This one has Amarillo, El Dorado, and Idaho

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7 hops. And it is a delight. This four pack went

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way too quickly, so whatever. They have a new

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one called Champion of the Sun. Yes. It's really

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good. Yeah, I brought that over to you guys.

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Oh, okay, that's where it came from. I remember

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seeing... one in our apartment, and then I couldn't

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remember if you had brought it, or I have a friend

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who literally lives next door to Labyrinth, or

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she and her boyfriend had brought it over at

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another time. But yeah, I tried that, and it

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was delicious. I used to live right by Manchester,

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and Labyrinth was a delight. It's such a good

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place, fun to go to. Obviously, it's gotta be

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weird right now. I haven't been since the pandemic,

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but you know, it's still great. So, we're going

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to jump into some movies. Mitchell, we're going

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to start with you. What did you watch this past

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two weeks, whatever it is now, two -ish weeks?

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You know, I've been very busy, but I do make

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time for great movies. And luckily, we hit on

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a pretty good one this past week, One Night in

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Miami. So it's on Amazon Prime, and it is a story

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that is based on an actual event, but of course,

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through the magic of screenplay writing. We have

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a great conversation that takes place between

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Malcolm X. Sam Cooke, Muhammad Ali, then Cassius

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Clay, and the great running back, Jim Brown.

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They all were in Miami on the same night when

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Cassius Clay knocked out Sonny Ellison to become

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the world heavyweight champion for the first

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time ever. And this takes place after that fight

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in a hotel room in Miami. So the entire thing,

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based on a play written by Kemp Powers, and if

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that name sounds familiar, it's because he was

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brought up on this podcast before because he

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was also the guy who co -directed and wrote the

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screenplay for Soul. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah. And

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believe it or not, this guy has only had two

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feature films to his filmography for anything

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that he has worked on before. His entire career

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leading up to the past couple of years has been

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in journalism. And he was writing about Hollywood

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as a journalist. And then eventually he wrote

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episodes for Star Trek and then went on to work

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with Pixar and then made One Night in Miami,

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which was actually a play that he had written

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before that was staged in L .A. So this is a

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fantastic movie directed by Regina King. She

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is an actress, more so known for her acting.

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She won the Best Supporting Actress Oscar a few

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years ago for If Beale Street Could Talk. This

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is her first feature film that she's directed.

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She's done a lot of TV before for shows like

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Insecure, This Is Us. So she's been around in

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terms of having things directed by her, but this

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is her first full -length feature. And you can

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tell that an actor directed this in a good way,

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I'll say. Because similar to what we saw in Fences

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a few years ago with Denzel directing that, also

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a play, what the direction of this movie is really

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focusing on is showcasing the actors. And I think

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what they did in spades in this movie is the

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casting work. It's everything from who was playing

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Cassius Clay, who was playing All these different

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characters, but the one who stood out to me,

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and I'm going to name drop because I'm a huge

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fan of his anyway, and he needs to be in more

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things, is Leslie Odom Jr., who plays Sam Cooke.

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He was Sam Cooke? Great. I didn't know he was

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Sam Cooke. That's fantastic. Yeah. Yeah, so Leslie

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is given the most to do in this movie in terms

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of delivering heavy dialogue or heavy monologues,

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and then also... showcasing his ability to sing

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which is obviously what sam cook was known for

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right um but to give a black americans in the

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mid 20th century on one side you have malcolm

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x who is very much involved in liberating black

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people and pushing for more black rights as so

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many different people were back then are still

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fighting for today and it's really eerie to see

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all the things that he was saying back then profiting

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off white people through the entertainment of

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white people as Malcolm X would put it and the

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guy who embodies that more than anyone else in

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this movie is Sam Cooke because he is in the

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music in the room And his whole ideal is that

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sometimes you've got to play the game to win

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it, where Malcolm X is saying you have to tear

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the game apart and rebuild the new one. So you

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get these two different ideologies. It's definitely

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Malcolm X on one side, Cook on the other with

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Jim Brown and Cassius in the middle. And you

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just get this great dialogue of ideas. And I

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don't think the point of the movie is to come

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out on one side or the other because both have

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fantastic points. Not to make this too long,

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but I will say Sam Cooke, of the four men who

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were featured in this movie, Sam was the guy

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I knew the least about. Famous during that era

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from the 50s to the 60s. He died, if you want

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to look at when this movie took place. He died

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less than 10 months after this event would have

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taken place when he was shot and killed in L

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.A. But he was a guy who approached the music

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industry not just as an entertainer where he

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was signing contracts with big record labels

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and stuff. He was a guy who understood the power

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of owning your masters and owning songs that

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you actually wrote and profiting off no matter.

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who the hell performed them. So he tells this

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fantastic story about how he owns a record label,

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one of his songwriters puts out a song, and it

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does great. It cracks the top 100, yada, yada,

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yada. But Sam Cooke is a savvy businessman, and

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he understood that the British invasion was happening.

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So what he did was he took that same song, and

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the Rolling Stones, who were an up -and -coming

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band at the time, wanted to cover that song.

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And he lets them do it. much to the chagrin of

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the original songwriter. So sure enough, not

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only does the Rolling Stones cover crack the

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top 100, it goes all the way up to number one

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on multiple charts, rendering the original song

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basically out of the charts completely. And he

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was the same. My songwriter was pissed about

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it for about six months. And then that first

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royalty check came in. He realized how much money

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there is owned. and the best line that he delivers

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in that monologue is you guys want the piece

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of the pie I want the whole recipe so yeah really

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good line there but Malcolm X has a great line

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to rebut against that which I don't want to give

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away but that is the crux of this movie it's

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ideas being tossed back and forth under great

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direction it does suffer in my opinion from the

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adaptation from the stage to the screen of dragging

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a little bit where, you know, there are times

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where I was looking at my phone, I kid you not,

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like there's only so much of this ideology war

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that I could take before I tune out when a new

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idea is finally introduced. So I think the middle

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of the movie drags in that respect. However,

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the performances are fantastic. The set design

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was beautiful. It feels like the 1960s. And Regina

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King, for someone who has directed now her first

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ever feature film, and for Ken Powers with this

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being his second movie to come out in two months,

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very impressed with the creation of this project.

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It's on Amazon. I'm going to give this thing

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four out of five flasks. Four out of five flasks.

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Really enjoyed this movie. Leslie Odom Jr. for

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Best Actor this year. Let's go. I love Leslie

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Odom Jr. It's so fun when he pops up in things.

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And things he gets to say in. He's so fantastic.

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I'll definitely co -sign Leslie Odom Jr. I have

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not seen it yet, but I'll just co -sign because

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I think he's an awesome actor. Best Actor, sure.

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I'm in. I haven't seen the film yet, but I'm

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excited to see it. It's definitely on my list.

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Especially Amazon Prime. Perfect. That's great.

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Jill, that will bring us to your movie that you

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saw. I haven't seen a lot of movies these last

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two weeks, to be fair. Yes, but you were too

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busy for the bad movie. Come on now. Yeah, I

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was too busy for the bad movie, although considering

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that I did watch Die Hard 2, I think I'm still

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lost in the end. That is not what I'm going to

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talk about. I'm going to do a blanket apology

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right now. I'm going to be talking about the

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film Neja or Nerja. It is a Chinese 2019 film.

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The blanket apology is I do not speak Chinese,

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so my ability to pronounce things only goes so

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far. So if I am saying things wrong, I am sorry.

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Please yell at me in the comments. Doing my best.

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So Nezha is, like I said, a 2019 film. It is

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based on a 16th century novel called The Investiture

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of the Gods, which is part of Chinese folklore.

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And it is an animated movie, and it was wonderful.

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I was watching some YouTube videos about it afterwards,

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and they were saying that after Kung Fu Panda

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came out in the mid -2000s or the 2000 -aughts,

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China really looked at that film and were like,

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why aren't we doing this? We can tell our own

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Chinese stories with our own art. Why is somebody

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doing it and why is somebody at this point doing

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it better? So that kind of lit a fire under the

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growing Chinese animation film market. And there's

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actually quite a few more other animated Chinese

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films on Netflix, which is where this one is,

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showing that this industry is starting to bubble

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over. And from the things that I've seen so far,

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it's great. I don't want to give away too much

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since this is a rather short film. Well, actually,

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no, it's 110 minutes, so it's not short, but

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I don't want to give away too much. Short enough.

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But I don't want to give away too much just because

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once you start to watch it, at least from a Westerner's

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perspective, once you start to watch it, you

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can kind of see where the plot is going to go.

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There is a formula to it, if you will. Right.

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But it's pulled from Chinese folklore. It starts

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off with these two spirit orbs, a spirit pearl

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and a demon pearl. And there are gods trying

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to ensure that they go to the right places, and

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one is destroyed. And there is a mishap. Things

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get shuffled around, and the demon pearl is put

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inside a... Sorry, what's the right way to describe

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it? The demon pearl is born within a human child

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and is going to grow up to be a demon. And one

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of the gods is like, okay, this isn't good, so

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in three years I will kill... I'm going to kill

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the child. Smite it down with divine lightning,

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effectively. The other pearl goes to the dragons

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and grows into another character. Sorry. Suddenly

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very, very warm because I'm right near the heater

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in my apartment. Although I lowered it, my apartment

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is so good at staying cozy. So the film follows

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Nerja as he grows up. And you get to see that

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he's this rambunctious young child or potentially

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a young teenager. The way that he's animated,

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it could actually kind of go both ways. The town

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does not like him. He is feared by them. He's

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kept inside. He doesn't totally know what is

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why he is different, but he is very aware that

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he is different and that nobody really likes

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him. And he just wants to be liked and appreciated,

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and he's just not getting that. His parents,

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to their credit, are not treating him like a

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monster, but they're also not fully telling him

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the truth about his identity, which leads to

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some tension. And the clock is starting to run

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out. The film, even though there's only a three

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-year time jump, you don't really get to see

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a lot of time in between. We see him being born.

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We see a bit of year maybe one. Like I said,

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the way he's animated, it could go either way

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if he's supposed to be a young child or a rapidly

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growing young teen. And it culminates in the

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third year. It's his birthday. The divine lightning

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is going to come down. So naturally, things get

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anime and hype. There's lots of fighting and

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fire and ice and gods. chubby little god who's

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a bit of an alcoholic um who rides around on

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a flying pig as you do wait what flying pig wait

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what there's a flying pig there's a flying pig

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that can show you visions by sneezing okay i

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am not well versed in chinese folklore but i

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am fairly certain that most of these characters

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are pulled directly from that so if you are well

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versed you will recognize his familiar faces

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If you are not like myself, it's a fun time to

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fall down a Wikipedia rabbit hole. I am being

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very, very broad with my description. Like I

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said, I don't want to give away too much. I did

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watch it in Mandarin. There is a dub available.

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I switched over to the dub for about five minutes

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just because I was curious to see how it sounded

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and how it varied from the intended script. It

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was okay. The subtitles were still, like actual

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subtitles, because I watch all films with subtitles

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on, the subtitles were still giving me the text

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from the Mandarin script translated into English.

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And hearing what the English dub was saying,

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looking at the Mandarin to English subtitles,

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I flipped it back to the Mandarin. There was

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small enough differences that it actually did

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impact what people were saying. Minorly, like

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no plot points were lost in that translation.

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But you could tell it just wasn't meant to be

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heard in English. It's gorgeous, wonderful animation,

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and it sets up a sequel. They're building their

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own divine universe with these films. Yeah, it's

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funny you bring up the dubbing and subbing and

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all that stuff. Because I've been watching Lupin,

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as I've been telling you guys, the French show.

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And the first episode I saw dubbed and is just...

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awful like it's just terrible it's levels of

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oh hi Dougie like that kind of stuff you know

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and so I switched back to the subs and it's just

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so much better like listening to the actual French

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and then having the French to English subtitles

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so much better yeah it's a I think a distinct

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difference that Joe you picked up on it really

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well is that especially going from Chinese or

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Mandarin to English There are just some things

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that are untranslatable to actual spoken word.

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So having those subtitles at least add a little

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bit more context to what's being said, which

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I think is the key point. Yeah, and I do have

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the Wikipedia summary in front of me just because

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I was a bad person and did not take notes. Just

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to clarify, there are two pearls, the demon pearl

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and the spirit pearl, but they originally originate

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from one chaos pearl that is split, and that's

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where those two other pearls come from. So I

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do apologize for not doing my homework and prepping.

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The chaos gem world. Yeah. all ages this is definitely

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not one of the there is another chinese film

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i think it's called the white snake um i have

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to double check that that you know you see an

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animated film you think it's for everyone apparently

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the white snake is not i would not say it is

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11 and under friendly there isn't a list there

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is a implied sex scene um this movie is for all

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ages on the other hand um there is very islands

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there is like i said anime fighting so if you

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know you're a fan of dragon bbz you'll enjoy

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this the only thing that i think from a westerner's

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perspective is that they will find the plot to

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either be confusing because this film was clearly

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created for a chinese mannered audience who's

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familiar with the folklore so they already know

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all these characters they already know the direction

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the story is going to go if you are not well

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versed the plot is either going to seem really

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clunky or it's just going to seem like you're

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missing things. So be aware of that if you're

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going to watch it, that it's not going to take

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time to really hold your hand and tell you who

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all these people are. It seems you already have

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that knowledge baked in. And then while I thought

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the animation was really beautiful, I could see

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that in the world of Pixar and DreamWorks, And

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to a lesser degree, Illumination, this animation

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is not nearly as crisp, clean, or stylized. It

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has its style, but you could also look at it

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and say, oh, this looks like an Illumination

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film. But it's not. It was created all in China.

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And shout -outs to the animation studio that

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did that. I actually should have looked up who

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animated it. finding that sadly but um who are

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the voices like do they have like america like

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a famous american actor dub version or is it

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more just like general people i would say just

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general people like i have the wikipedia still

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open and person i guess is um mostly known for

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tv although he doesn't appear in white snake

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that's the other that's the other um chinese

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film that i was talking about that you you'd

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look at and you think oh that's also for all

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ages which is not um he's in that so we got some

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crossover um yeah and then you got some just

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um known voice actors there's a voice actress

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who's big in the dubbing of anime and other cartoons

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so No one super famous. Very similar to going

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back to before Studio Ghibli merged with, worked

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out its deal with Disney for distributing, how

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Totoro has two dubs. There's a dub from, I think

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it's like the 90s, and then there's the early,

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early 2000s dub. And the one from the first dub

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is not very good at all. Like, they just didn't

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have the training to deliver the roles that,

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you know, if you look at the second dub, I think

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like, Say they're Dakota Fanning, they got actual

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little girl actresses to do the dubs the second

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time around. So they weren't messing around yet.

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Dakota and Elle Fanning play Sotsky and May.

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Interesting, okay. Not only are they actually

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sisters in real life, but they're the Fanning

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sisters. Right. They've been acting for years.

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A little bit of pedigree there. So my point with

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that is that it seems like this dub... At least

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right now, for Neja, the English dub, they didn't

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really tap into any big -name talent. But it

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did make a lot of money. It was made on a $20

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million budget, and it has grossed $742 .5 million.

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What's the name of it again? What's the name

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of it? Neja. Neja. N -E -Z -H -A. I thought you

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were just doing a bit there. I thought you were

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trying to get her to do it again. No, I was doing

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it wrong out loud. I'm just trying to figure

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out. So the box office was only in China, I'm

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assuming? I would assume so. Yes. So it came

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out in China in 2019, and then it landed. So

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it came out in July 2019 in China. A very limited

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run in the United States in 2019. And then it

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disappeared for a while, and then it popped up.

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Cool. So I'm looking into this now. The only

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piece of Chinese folklore that I'm familiar with,

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and I've read one translation of this story,

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and it was very much an abridged version, it's

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Journey to the West. And Nezha is a part of this

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story. And I don't remember the character at

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all. But yeah, for a lot of folks, this is like

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the one story that basically has crossed all

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borders beyond China in terms of understanding

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this is a Chinese story. Fun fact, Dragon Ball

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is actually partially based on Journey to the

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West as well. I got a video game for you. I know

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you're not a video game person, but I've got

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a video game based on Journey to the West if

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you like that. What's it called? Enslaved Odyssey

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to the West. Oh, Mario Odyssey. I love that game.

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Mario Odyssey, yes. No, Enslaved Odyssey to the

00:24:03.140 --> 00:24:05.980
West. It's pretty awesome. It's one of my underrated,

00:24:06.099 --> 00:24:12.250
but it's Xbox 360 game. But yeah. fun fact that

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I'm reading right now is that for the 2019 Academy

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Awards it was submitted as China's entry for

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that and unfortunately it was not nominated which

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is a shame because that would have been wonderful

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but it wasn't submitted to Best Animated the

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Best Animated film it was submitted for International

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Feature Film so take away from that yeah because

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I don't this is a slight tangent but if you guys

00:24:37.630 --> 00:24:39.730
remember the film The Triplets of Belleville

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That movie kind of, oh, you shook your head?

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Oh, my God. It is a French movie from the early

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2000s that is very, it's an experience. That's

00:24:52.140 --> 00:24:55.099
all I can say. It is an experience. But that's

00:24:55.099 --> 00:24:57.700
kind of what pushed me to watch this movie was

00:24:57.700 --> 00:24:59.839
this film, The Trip is a Bill, that kind of popped

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into my head. I'm like, that was one of the first

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international French cartoons I had ever seen

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in its native language. In theaters as well.

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It was great. I was too young to see it, but

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I watched it anyway. And then when I was looking

00:25:14.009 --> 00:25:17.950
at Netflix and I saw this pop up, I'm like, oh,

00:25:18.109 --> 00:25:20.930
international animated film. I'm going to put

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this in my save for later. And then suddenly

00:25:23.170 --> 00:25:25.549
all these YouTubers who I watch talk about animated

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films were doing like best of roundups for 2020.

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And because this film came onto Netflix in 2020,

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they were including it, even though it's from

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2019. And I'm like, all right, science deal delivered.

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I'm going to watch this. Still counts. Still

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counts for 2020. I don't know why I brought up

00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:43.000
the triplets of Belleville. You can delete that

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whole part. It was a random tangent. Do you watch

00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:49.240
it? No. I'm interested. No, I think, well, I

00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:50.920
think I'd leave it just because, like, people

00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:53.579
need to see it. I'm happy to delete it if you

00:25:53.579 --> 00:25:56.940
really want, but I think people should see it.

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are racing in the Tour de France, right? Yes,

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for the Triplets of Belleville. All I can say,

00:26:03.369 --> 00:26:05.230
the best way for me to summarize the plot of

00:26:05.230 --> 00:26:08.710
Triplets of Belleville is a grandmother and her

00:26:08.710 --> 00:26:12.589
grandson are in France. He's going to be in the

00:26:12.589 --> 00:26:17.430
Tour de France. Shenanigans ensue and the plot

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is really on the grandmother trying to reconnect

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in a way without spoiling too much. nausea was

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so bad that i have to say it like three times

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i wasn't gonna make you say it again i was just

00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:35.980
gonna say okay rating rating rating for this

00:26:35.980 --> 00:26:39.740
film that's not the triplets of um i would give

00:26:39.740 --> 00:26:44.900
it four out of five sneezing flying pigs oh my

00:26:44.900 --> 00:26:47.599
gosh uh you guys have both given it four out

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of fives are you ready for that to stop yep yeah

00:26:51.660 --> 00:26:55.450
pour some uh Pour some badness on top of this,

00:26:55.509 --> 00:26:58.990
please. We will pour some badness. So I put a

00:26:58.990 --> 00:27:03.410
vote on our Twitter page at GameForMovieP1. Whenever

00:27:03.410 --> 00:27:05.990
it's me losing, I always try to come up with

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four and then put it to the audience because

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I just want the audience to select for me. And

00:27:11.410 --> 00:27:14.970
I try not to let anybody know what my preference

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is. This was actually one of the four that there

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was two in there that I was kind of like, okay,

00:27:20.289 --> 00:27:21.970
give me this because at least it looks a little

00:27:21.970 --> 00:27:26.400
fun. So I'm glad at least that one won. I watched

00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:39.759
Avengers Grimm. So it gets released at the same

00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:44.839
time as Age of Ultron. And they totally jumped

00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:48.460
on it. Yeah, right. They tried to compete with

00:27:48.460 --> 00:27:53.440
it. So Avengers Grimm is all about those Grimm

00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.220
fairy tales. You got Snow White, Cinderella,

00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.740
Sleeping Beauty, Little Red Riding Hood, and...

00:28:00.740 --> 00:28:04.759
I'm missing one. Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping

00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:06.819
Beauty, Little Red Riding Hood. By the way, already

00:28:06.819 --> 00:28:10.960
has more female heroes than the entire MCU. I

00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:13.440
think that's what they're trying for. Isn't it

00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:15.420
weird that whenever you say its title, I just

00:28:15.420 --> 00:28:17.420
imagine the characters from the video game Grimm

00:28:17.420 --> 00:28:21.079
Fandango? Yes! First video game I played on my

00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:23.440
new Xbox like an idiot because it has terrible

00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:26.200
graphics. And I said, ooh, best graphics system.

00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:29.319
I'm going to play the worst graphics game. But

00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:33.200
it's just I never played Grim Fandango. Lou Ferrigno

00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:35.500
is in this? Lou Ferrigno is in this. We will

00:28:35.500 --> 00:28:37.859
get to that. Don't worry. Does he play the Hulk?

00:28:38.259 --> 00:28:42.799
No. He plays the Hulk. No, he plays. We'll get

00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:45.480
to it. Don't worry, guys. Don't worry. I'll get

00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:50.099
you there. So we start off. First, I want to

00:28:50.099 --> 00:28:52.000
ask you guys about the Mandela effect. Do you

00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:54.819
guys know the Mandela effect? You mean the Mandela

00:28:54.819 --> 00:28:58.039
effect or the Nelson Mandela effect? Like the

00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:02.039
Nelson Mandela effect. Okay, then no. Unless

00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:04.400
I think the Mandela effect's the same thing.

00:29:04.700 --> 00:29:07.720
So the Mandela effect is the belief that everybody

00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.759
has of something that is not correct. Okay, is

00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.420
the bear staying bears? Yes. So, for example,

00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:17.380
the reason it's named this is a lot of people

00:29:17.380 --> 00:29:20.380
believe Nelson Mandela died in prison. Really?

00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:23.559
Yeah. Yeah. And he became president, yeah. Yeah,

00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:27.339
yeah, yeah. I'm aware of that one. I think that

00:29:27.339 --> 00:29:30.559
the Bears being Bears is a better example. Well,

00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:34.420
so the example I have is, did you know that the

00:29:34.420 --> 00:29:37.400
words mirror, mirror on the wall were never said

00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.700
in the original Snow White? Yes, because I'm

00:29:40.700 --> 00:29:44.000
a Disney nerd. So what's the actual quote then?

00:29:44.029 --> 00:29:49.329
Magic Mirror on the Wall. Oh. Okay. Yeah. This

00:29:49.329 --> 00:29:52.549
is one that blows my mind because literally it

00:29:52.549 --> 00:29:55.509
is, they made a movie called Mirror Mirror. Yeah.

00:29:55.829 --> 00:29:58.710
With Julia Roberts, right? Yeah. Yeah, with Julia

00:29:58.710 --> 00:30:00.589
Roberts. And so the beginning of this movie,

00:30:00.609 --> 00:30:02.190
of course, starts with Snow White going Mirror

00:30:02.190 --> 00:30:06.670
Mirror on the Wall. Bullshit! You're wrong, movie.

00:30:06.950 --> 00:30:10.089
I poured myself a gin and tonic. Five minutes

00:30:10.089 --> 00:30:12.490
into the movie, I had no more gin and tonic.

00:30:12.750 --> 00:30:15.380
Oh. And it wasn't like on purpose. It wasn't

00:30:15.380 --> 00:30:17.579
like it was just, okay, I'm just going to drink

00:30:17.579 --> 00:30:18.680
because it's always been a drink. I was literally

00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:21.700
sitting there just like, oh, oh no. Maybe it

00:30:21.700 --> 00:30:24.000
was the best goddamn gin and tonic he ever made

00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:27.359
and coincided with a not great film. It was pretty

00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:34.559
decent. So Rumpelstiltskin is leading an undead

00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:36.440
army, essentially. That's the best way to describe

00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:39.900
it. And it's played by the guy who is in Starship

00:30:39.900 --> 00:30:43.730
Troopers. I can't think of his name. Cass? Neil

00:30:43.730 --> 00:30:46.930
Patrick Harris? No. Casper Van Dien? Casper Van

00:30:46.930 --> 00:30:50.450
Dien. That's it. So he's in Starship Troopers.

00:30:50.890 --> 00:30:53.230
He is Rumpelstiltskin. He is leading this undead

00:30:53.230 --> 00:30:55.069
army where basically he can just control people

00:30:55.069 --> 00:30:58.950
and take over their minds. They become like army,

00:30:59.150 --> 00:31:02.230
like undead army. That's the best way I can describe

00:31:02.230 --> 00:31:04.829
it. They're not actually dead. They can be converted.

00:31:06.190 --> 00:31:12.660
So the four princesses and the queen. who is

00:31:12.660 --> 00:31:18.700
Snow White, Rumpelstiltskin uses the magic mirror

00:31:18.700 --> 00:31:21.720
to get to the real world instead of the fairytale

00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:26.380
world. Snow White follows him to protect it.

00:31:27.019 --> 00:31:29.819
The Big Bad Wolf washes over a fairytale world

00:31:29.819 --> 00:31:33.619
who is a human being that's just gigantic. The

00:31:33.619 --> 00:31:37.059
Big Bad Wolf is just a large human? Yes, named

00:31:37.059 --> 00:31:41.779
Wolf. And he's played by Lou Fragna? No. Damn

00:31:41.779 --> 00:31:45.769
it! No. Lou Ferrigno gets the, like, hero's welcome

00:31:45.769 --> 00:31:49.369
in the middle of the movie. Oh, boo. Wait, very

00:31:49.369 --> 00:31:51.369
important question that has to be answered. Okay.

00:31:51.650 --> 00:31:55.490
Is Rumpelstiltskin hot? I mean, Casper Van Dyne...

00:31:55.490 --> 00:31:57.410
You got a hot Rumpel situation? I mean, he's

00:31:57.410 --> 00:32:01.089
attractive. I would say that the actor is attractive,

00:32:01.269 --> 00:32:02.890
and they don't do anything to, like, make him

00:32:02.890 --> 00:32:06.650
look ugly. Okay. It's not like Once Upon a Time

00:32:06.650 --> 00:32:09.170
where they make Rumpelstiltskin Robert Carlyle

00:32:09.170 --> 00:32:11.190
with, like, gold paint and, like, old makeup.

00:32:11.329 --> 00:32:14.299
Yeah, but... We're supposed to find his tragic

00:32:14.299 --> 00:32:18.299
backstory attractive and feel true. At least

00:32:18.299 --> 00:32:21.500
I did until I raged quit halfway through season

00:32:21.500 --> 00:32:25.579
three. So I just want to say what backstory because

00:32:25.579 --> 00:32:30.720
there was no backstory in this. So he gets to

00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.500
the real world. Snow White goes after him. The

00:32:32.500 --> 00:32:36.250
four. other princesses and well three other princesses

00:32:36.250 --> 00:32:39.130
and commoner little red riding hood uh get through

00:32:39.130 --> 00:32:41.789
the mirror into the real world and it breaks

00:32:41.789 --> 00:32:45.369
and little red riding hood has like a piece of

00:32:45.369 --> 00:32:51.829
the mirror in her back but so does the wolf and

00:32:51.829 --> 00:32:53.670
little red riding hood wants revenge against

00:32:53.670 --> 00:32:56.269
the wolf because it killed her family so she

00:32:56.269 --> 00:33:00.089
runs off she's just like bye felicia i'm off

00:33:00.089 --> 00:33:03.920
to my own movie yes uh the Three princesses.

00:33:04.059 --> 00:33:06.319
I feel like I'm missing one, and I don't know.

00:33:06.539 --> 00:33:09.960
No, so Snow White is, like, she's been there

00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:12.400
a while, and, like, real time passes more quickly

00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.420
than fairy tale time, so she's been there for,

00:33:14.460 --> 00:33:17.900
like, two months already. Okay. The Rumpelstiltskin

00:33:17.900 --> 00:33:22.240
has made himself mayor of this town, and is,

00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.039
like, getting an undead army ready to take over

00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.440
the real world. Okay. Little Red Riding Hood.

00:33:28.980 --> 00:33:32.809
Yeah. Little Red Riding Hood goes to this bar

00:33:32.809 --> 00:33:34.910
that the wolf has killed all these people in.

00:33:35.329 --> 00:33:41.549
And it belongs to Iron John. Iron Man? Played

00:33:41.549 --> 00:33:48.349
by? Lou Ferrigno! And when we talk about the

00:33:48.349 --> 00:33:51.910
acting in this film, Lou Ferrigno, is he known

00:33:51.910 --> 00:34:01.569
for his acting? Hulk Hogan is known for his persona.

00:34:02.089 --> 00:34:05.710
He's a persona actor. He's the Hulk. That's it.

00:34:06.450 --> 00:34:10.070
He was the Hulk that one time. Yeah. Very famously

00:34:10.070 --> 00:34:13.289
that one time. I know. Very famously. Well, what

00:34:13.289 --> 00:34:15.789
I will say about it is Lou Ferrigno is the best

00:34:15.789 --> 00:34:20.389
actor in this film. Ooh. Yes. That's what my

00:34:20.389 --> 00:34:23.769
point was. So he has grown so much as an actor.

00:34:23.869 --> 00:34:25.630
I'm very proud of him. He attended some classes.

00:34:26.469 --> 00:34:29.449
Maybe he taught the classes. So remember before

00:34:29.449 --> 00:34:33.210
the show, I was saying how this would not be

00:34:33.210 --> 00:34:38.269
the last time we talk about porn. Yes. It's not

00:34:38.269 --> 00:34:41.409
a porno. It's not a porno. This movie's rated

00:34:41.409 --> 00:34:44.710
not R. It's not rated R. Well, no, it might be

00:34:44.710 --> 00:34:47.210
because they do say fuck a few times. It's not

00:34:47.210 --> 00:34:50.690
rated according to IMDb. It's probably R. They

00:34:50.690 --> 00:34:54.579
do say fuck a few times. That's about it. What

00:34:54.579 --> 00:34:57.280
I will say is what this movie feels like is a

00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:02.300
pilot for old porn actresses. You know, like

00:35:02.300 --> 00:35:04.719
it's that feature film to try to get out of it.

00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:10.300
It's cheesy, hokey acting. And so a lot of it

00:35:10.300 --> 00:35:13.139
is just like, oh, no, he can't get the mirror.

00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:19.650
That would be awful. It's so steamy. So this

00:35:19.650 --> 00:35:23.250
is like when in Moulin Rouge, when Nicole Kidman's

00:35:23.250 --> 00:35:25.750
Satine is like, I will leave this world, you

00:35:25.750 --> 00:35:27.690
know, the Moulin Rouge, this world of like nightclubs

00:35:27.690 --> 00:35:30.449
and stuff like that, and become a real actress.

00:35:30.769 --> 00:35:33.590
Yes. That's what this is. Yes, pretty much that's

00:35:33.590 --> 00:35:35.769
what it feels like anyway. I know none of the

00:35:35.769 --> 00:35:37.969
actresses from anything else, so it feels like

00:35:37.969 --> 00:35:42.610
it's that like just step up kind of thing. So

00:35:42.610 --> 00:35:45.090
Iron John, of course, wants revenge on Little

00:35:45.090 --> 00:35:49.880
Red, who can kick ass. She, like, is in cuffs.

00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:51.920
God, I'm getting ahead of myself. And it's just

00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:53.739
because this movie's so bad and I want to, like,

00:35:53.739 --> 00:35:56.800
race out of it. So, Little John, second in command,

00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:01.880
puts her in cuffs. She gets taken to where Iron

00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:06.179
John is. And she does, like, this flip and, like,

00:36:06.179 --> 00:36:09.000
chokes out Lou Ferrigno with the cuffs and, like,

00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:11.460
brings him to the ground. And she's like, I just

00:36:11.460 --> 00:36:13.719
wanted to show you I could kill you if I wanted

00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:17.139
to, but... I wanted to also prove it wasn't me

00:36:17.139 --> 00:36:22.059
who killed your men. Okay. Yeah. Violence always

00:36:22.059 --> 00:36:24.539
answers that question of who committed violence.

00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:27.559
Right. So she breaks out of the cuffs and runs

00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.820
away while everybody's shooting at her. She also

00:36:30.820 --> 00:36:33.579
has a bow and arrow that she's ridiculously good

00:36:33.579 --> 00:36:37.900
at shooting. Oh, just like Jeremy Renner. Yeah.

00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:42.840
Yeah. That's our Hawkeye. Yeah. Yeah. Come in.

00:36:43.980 --> 00:36:46.360
The other girls get there and are just like,

00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:48.579
we're looking for this girl wearing red. And

00:36:48.579 --> 00:36:52.440
he's like, oh, she trashed my men. We're going

00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:56.960
to get you now. The powers are never explained,

00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.199
but they all have powers. The weirdest of which

00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:02.219
is Sleeping Beauty, who just holds her hand in

00:37:02.219 --> 00:37:04.659
front of your face and you fall asleep. Like

00:37:04.659 --> 00:37:13.329
it shoots like instant sleep. Rapunzel has a

00:37:13.329 --> 00:37:16.449
wig. That's who I was missing, is Rapunzel. Rapunzel

00:37:16.449 --> 00:37:18.949
has, like, a definite wig. Like, it's obviously

00:37:18.949 --> 00:37:22.750
a wig. And she can whip her hair like a mace.

00:37:23.369 --> 00:37:26.070
I can whip my hair. I can whip my hair. Like,

00:37:26.070 --> 00:37:29.010
she, like, can grab people and, like, pull them

00:37:29.010 --> 00:37:31.309
down. And, like, she can also hit them in the

00:37:31.309 --> 00:37:33.929
face with her hair that's obviously very strong.

00:37:34.829 --> 00:37:39.269
So she's, like, Captain America, but with hair

00:37:39.269 --> 00:37:43.019
instead of a shield? I guess. Loose. That was

00:37:43.019 --> 00:37:45.019
loose. That was bad. I guess, well, technically,

00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:50.500
Marvel's... What was that failed Marvel TV series

00:37:50.500 --> 00:37:52.199
when it started with them on the moon and it

00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.480
had, like, that actress in a really bad April

00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:58.900
wig? Oh, the... It's not Eternals. I can't remember

00:37:58.900 --> 00:38:01.440
what it's called. It's not Eternals. Oh, um...

00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:04.780
With the dog and everything? Yeah. God, what

00:38:04.780 --> 00:38:08.179
was that thing called? Inhumans. Inhumans. Inhumans.

00:38:08.179 --> 00:38:12.519
So, yes, those are... MCU 1 to 1. I would compare

00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.519
it more to Inhumans, yes. But yeah, they all

00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.039
have these weird powers. Snow White can make

00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:21.400
things cold. She's Storm. What? Yeah. She can

00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:23.719
make things cold? Yes, like freeze and stuff.

00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:29.000
I'm annoyed by that laziness. Yes, Snow White.

00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:31.179
They just took the names and just kind of said

00:38:31.179 --> 00:38:34.659
make powers around it. And then Cinderella doesn't

00:38:34.659 --> 00:38:37.059
really do much the entire movie. I don't like

00:38:37.059 --> 00:38:40.559
it in the animated film. yeah i guess so yeah

00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:45.860
um but yeah so it's um they all have like kung

00:38:45.860 --> 00:38:48.079
fu powers and that kind of stuff and basically

00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:50.500
the whole idea is they just need to like close

00:38:50.500 --> 00:38:53.000
the portal so rumpled stiltskin can't have his

00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:56.400
army and they can get back home um there's a

00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:59.460
scene where i'm jumping ahead because really

00:38:59.460 --> 00:39:02.000
i i was not paying attention to the entire movie

00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:05.000
and you know things happen uh there's a scene

00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:09.099
where red and uh iron john get put in jail In

00:39:09.099 --> 00:39:12.739
separate cells. Iron John wants revenge against

00:39:12.739 --> 00:39:17.400
Red Riding Hood, who somehow gets out. He makes

00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:20.199
a deal with Rumpelstiltskin. Rumpelstiltskin's

00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:22.519
just like, what do they call you? And he's like,

00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:26.000
Iron John. Ooh, Iron John, I can work with that.

00:39:26.139 --> 00:39:31.059
So he makes him iron. Okay. Wait, so like iron

00:39:31.059 --> 00:39:35.900
man? No, like iron. And when I say iron, they

00:39:35.900 --> 00:39:39.920
spray paint him silver. He's the Hulk, but silver.

00:39:40.739 --> 00:39:44.500
Like the Incredible Hulk TV show, but silver.

00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.420
I mean, I guess Lou Frigno is no stranger to

00:39:49.420 --> 00:39:52.739
full body makeup, so. That's why he was perfect.

00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:59.679
Okay, lazy. So they have to, like, go to the

00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:02.340
mayor's office, get Rumpelstiltskin to close

00:40:02.340 --> 00:40:06.079
the portal. Rumpelstiltskin, like, kidnaps Snow

00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:08.480
White. And there's, like, this really awkward

00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.039
scene where he's just like, I'll let your people

00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:14.460
go if you just stay with me. And, like, gets,

00:40:14.500 --> 00:40:19.019
like, on top of her. And is, like, leaning in

00:40:19.019 --> 00:40:21.980
for a kiss that lasts way too long because the

00:40:21.980 --> 00:40:27.519
rest of them break into there. End of the movie,

00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:31.059
he's, like, holding Snow White hostage. He has

00:40:31.059 --> 00:40:34.199
her, like, in front of him, hiding behind her.

00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:38.400
And, like... Red has the bow at her and blah,

00:40:38.420 --> 00:40:40.219
blah, blah. It looks kind of like the Avengers

00:40:40.219 --> 00:40:43.760
at the end of Avengers when they're, like, pointing

00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:49.239
their stuff at Loki. Yeah. Yeah. Well, basically,

00:40:49.340 --> 00:40:52.639
Snow White makes an icicle and stabs herself

00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:59.000
and him. And they all die. Or, like, Rumpelstiltskin

00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:01.960
doesn't die, but he gets away. And Snow White,

00:41:02.019 --> 00:41:05.559
they think, is dead. They also... Iron John closes

00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:07.840
the portal so nobody can get through. So now

00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:10.059
they're stuck in the real world and have no way

00:41:10.059 --> 00:41:14.840
to get back. Sequel! And there is a sequel. What

00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:19.780
is it called? Avengers Grimm Time Wars. Wow.

00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:23.019
So there's time travel. Okay, but I thought there

00:41:23.019 --> 00:41:25.840
was three different dimensions. Yep. I have not

00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:28.639
watched it. I don't plan to. No. I think you

00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:31.019
do plan to. Nope. I'm going to make somebody

00:41:31.019 --> 00:41:32.980
else watch it. They don't need to see the first

00:41:32.980 --> 00:41:35.110
one. Because I think they recast, like, half

00:41:35.110 --> 00:41:38.849
the cast. Looking at Iron John, and he is literally

00:41:38.849 --> 00:41:42.150
just painted silver. Like, there's no CG or anything

00:41:42.150 --> 00:41:44.349
cool. Like, he's just painted silver. Anyone

00:41:44.349 --> 00:41:47.250
else can do this. Yes, it is body paint. That

00:41:47.250 --> 00:41:50.789
is not good. I think I would actually have preferred

00:41:50.789 --> 00:41:54.690
if he just did, like, a silver morph suit. That

00:41:54.690 --> 00:41:58.230
would be funny. So, a question that I have is,

00:41:58.389 --> 00:42:01.570
on the scale of fan service, from being, like,

00:42:01.690 --> 00:42:05.550
none, to the very few things they know about

00:42:05.550 --> 00:42:09.289
Sucker Punch, which is fan service for men. The

00:42:09.289 --> 00:42:13.909
movie, where does this fall? Is this tasteful,

00:42:13.949 --> 00:42:17.550
or is this Sucker Punch? Sucker Punch. I mean,

00:42:17.630 --> 00:42:21.929
it's... I guess it's fan service because you

00:42:21.929 --> 00:42:24.650
just see your favorite fairytale characters kick

00:42:24.650 --> 00:42:29.199
ass. But are they dressed scantily? Yes, yeah,

00:42:29.300 --> 00:42:31.639
they're pretty, yeah, they've got tight clothes,

00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:35.719
like, yeah, it's, like I said, it's a step up

00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:38.800
from a porno, it really is. Like Sucker Punch.

00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:42.380
Yeah, but Sucker Punch, I mean, like, yeah, it's

00:42:42.380 --> 00:42:44.599
not done tastefully, but Sucker Punch at least

00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.219
tried to have a better story. Yeah, I've never,

00:42:47.340 --> 00:42:50.340
I know that there's this whole, that's Zack Snyder,

00:42:50.340 --> 00:42:52.800
right? Yeah. Yeah, like his whole thing was like,

00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:57.019
this movie is supposed to be a critique. the

00:42:57.019 --> 00:42:58.920
type of people who would come and see this film,

00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:04.260
so I made that film. It kind of Ouroboros -es

00:43:04.260 --> 00:43:07.059
itself. No, Zack Snyder wanted to make this film

00:43:07.059 --> 00:43:10.420
and then got caught being a sleazebag and then

00:43:10.420 --> 00:43:14.639
decided to change his tune. I should watch that.

00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:16.099
That would be my bad movie. I'll watch Sucker

00:43:16.099 --> 00:43:19.000
Punch sometime. Oh my gosh. I don't wish that

00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:24.070
on anybody. So I'm guessing you didn't like Avengers

00:43:24.070 --> 00:43:30.630
Grimm. I did not. The worst part is, I was just

00:43:30.630 --> 00:43:32.809
not paying attention so much that I didn't even

00:43:32.809 --> 00:43:36.250
have a second drink. And so I watched this relatively

00:43:36.250 --> 00:43:43.030
sober, which is a problem in itself. It sounds

00:43:43.030 --> 00:43:47.300
like there wasn't a real conclusion either. No.

00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:51.260
It didn't feel like its own movie in that it

00:43:51.260 --> 00:43:54.420
was preoccupied, much like Age of Ultron, in

00:43:54.420 --> 00:43:56.760
setting up the rest of the MCU. And this one,

00:43:56.820 --> 00:43:59.800
setting up the rest of the Avengers Grimm MCU.

00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:02.980
Which is the second Avengers Grimm movie, and

00:44:02.980 --> 00:44:04.780
there's a third one from this company called

00:44:04.780 --> 00:44:07.639
The Asylum that is a Suicide Squad ripoff. And

00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:11.500
I'm not joking, like, ripoff. Like, this is pretty

00:44:11.500 --> 00:44:15.730
ripoff. This is like... It takes a lot of it

00:44:15.730 --> 00:44:17.590
and everything like that. Suicide Squad, they're

00:44:17.590 --> 00:44:19.889
not even hiding it. You know what the best part

00:44:19.889 --> 00:44:23.329
is about this movie? Just a brief Google search.

00:44:23.429 --> 00:44:25.889
I typed in Avengers Grimm. The first link I saw

00:44:25.889 --> 00:44:28.610
was for its IMDb page. And it was listed Avengers

00:44:28.610 --> 00:44:31.949
Grimm parentheses video. It wasn't even like

00:44:31.949 --> 00:44:35.110
movie or TV. It was like video. Yeah, it does

00:44:35.110 --> 00:44:37.869
say that. It doesn't even qualify as a movie

00:44:37.869 --> 00:44:41.090
according to IMDb. Does it have its budget information?

00:44:41.949 --> 00:44:44.550
Only 85 minutes. I'm curious to know how much

00:44:44.550 --> 00:44:49.170
it was made for. It's a mockbuster. If you ask

00:44:49.170 --> 00:44:51.829
me how much it was made for, I think we could

00:44:51.829 --> 00:44:54.150
put all the money in our pockets together and

00:44:54.150 --> 00:45:00.170
we could make a better movie. Oh, I'm down. Time

00:45:00.170 --> 00:45:02.090
Wars, wow. If we made a game for a movie movie,

00:45:02.329 --> 00:45:06.590
what would it be about? I feel like it would

00:45:06.590 --> 00:45:08.809
be almost like... It could go a few ways. I could

00:45:08.809 --> 00:45:12.750
see us doing a mock you... style series of like

00:45:12.750 --> 00:45:16.269
us trying to make a movie or write a script.

00:45:16.670 --> 00:45:20.489
Yeah. I can see that. A movie about movies. Yeah,

00:45:20.510 --> 00:45:24.590
there you go. I would want it to be a thriller

00:45:24.590 --> 00:45:28.170
about us trying to find where the hell T -Dog

00:45:28.170 --> 00:45:32.829
is. There will be no conclusion. It'll just be

00:45:32.829 --> 00:45:34.690
about all the friends that we made along the

00:45:34.690 --> 00:45:38.639
way. And it turns out that T -Dog was behind

00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:42.260
this the entire time. I would love a Saving Private

00:45:42.260 --> 00:45:46.179
Ryan with T -Dog just in our group. That's it.

00:45:46.659 --> 00:45:49.079
He's the Saving Private Ryan of the group. I

00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:50.880
feel like the post -credit team would just be

00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:54.119
like, we're somewhere and we get a text message

00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:56.639
being like, hey, I'm down to hang out tonight

00:45:56.639 --> 00:46:01.139
if you guys are. You free? That'd be amazing.

00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:04.460
That's how it always starts. Yeah, so Avengers

00:46:04.460 --> 00:46:08.599
Grimm. Jesus Christ, this movie. I'm going to

00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:13.820
give it the Mitchell Zero. The half Amir Shard.

00:46:14.860 --> 00:46:19.159
That's not too bad. Could be worse, yes, I would

00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.260
agree. Not the Mitchell Zero. They made a movie.

00:46:22.820 --> 00:46:26.000
Well, so, like, I can give a movie a zero. I

00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:29.750
don't care. What I would say about it is they

00:46:29.750 --> 00:46:32.409
tried to do something fun, and for the sheer

00:46:32.409 --> 00:46:34.809
fact that they just had the balls to try to rip

00:46:34.809 --> 00:46:37.869
off Avengers... And once upon a time. And once

00:46:37.869 --> 00:46:39.690
upon a time. I'll give it to them. Like, you

00:46:39.690 --> 00:46:42.769
know, it's not good by any stretch of the imagination.

00:46:43.030 --> 00:46:46.010
I'm not saying to see it. But that they had the

00:46:46.010 --> 00:46:49.389
balls to do it, well done. Yeah, so half a star,

00:46:49.489 --> 00:46:53.630
half a mere shard. I do wonder if Elsa pops up

00:46:53.630 --> 00:46:56.269
in the sequel. No, they don't need it. It's got

00:46:56.269 --> 00:46:59.949
Snow White. Oh yeah, there was actually a spoiler.

00:47:01.869 --> 00:47:04.489
I'm not 100 % sure that I saw this right, but

00:47:04.489 --> 00:47:07.630
there's a part where Snow White's in an ice cocoon

00:47:07.630 --> 00:47:10.389
and then all of a sudden just goes and wakes

00:47:10.389 --> 00:47:13.750
up and that's real credits. So she might be around

00:47:13.750 --> 00:47:15.630
for the sequel, even though I think they replaced

00:47:15.630 --> 00:47:21.989
half the cast. Okay. I love it when a movie has

00:47:21.989 --> 00:47:23.909
a sequel and then they bring back characters

00:47:23.909 --> 00:47:27.300
that are absolutely not the same actors. Like

00:47:27.300 --> 00:47:29.719
The Mummy 3. I think this is definitely how that's

00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:33.539
going to go. But yeah. So we're going to take

00:47:33.539 --> 00:47:34.860
a quick break because we've got to give some

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00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:48.260
favorite, of course, Mike's Mane. Yay! Hooray,

00:48:48.260 --> 00:48:51.380
favorite! If you haven't listened to the show

00:48:51.380 --> 00:48:55.820
before, why haven't you? But more so, so Claire

00:48:55.820 --> 00:48:57.739
and I watched a movie. It is a fairly popular

00:48:57.739 --> 00:49:01.260
movie. And your second hint, friends. Finally.

00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:06.260
It was an Oscar -nominated film. Okay, can I

00:49:06.260 --> 00:49:09.059
guess? Can I guess? Wait, that was all you needed?

00:49:09.739 --> 00:49:13.039
We went from nothing to something. Okay. All

00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:17.099
right. Because for many weeks now, I've been

00:49:17.099 --> 00:49:20.639
saying... Chris Kringle from Santa Claus is Coming

00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:22.400
to Town, which is wrong, unfortunately. It is

00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:24.119
very wrong. I'm going to go with this. I'm going

00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:26.360
to go with this. Relatively recent, we've probably

00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:29.320
seen it, nominated for an Oscar. I'm going to

00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:33.920
go with Jeff Bridges from True Grit. Jeff Bridges

00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:37.460
from True Grit. Jeff Bridges from True Grit.

00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.159
Hold on, I need to look at recently nominated

00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:43.659
Oscar films. Not Jeff Bridges from True Grit.

00:49:44.389 --> 00:49:47.690
Jeff Bridges from the Big Lebowski. You get one

00:49:47.690 --> 00:49:51.449
guess per episode. One guess. I still have my

00:49:51.449 --> 00:49:53.510
guess, and I will hold it close to my chest until

00:49:53.510 --> 00:49:56.929
I've reviewed. I'm still trying to figure out

00:49:56.929 --> 00:49:59.570
if I want to post my picture online, but if you

00:49:59.570 --> 00:50:02.230
want to play along, I'd be happy to send you

00:50:02.230 --> 00:50:05.349
a picture of what everybody's guessing off of.

00:50:05.449 --> 00:50:07.150
It feels a little weird to send a picture of

00:50:07.150 --> 00:50:09.210
myself to random strangers, but, you know, whatever.

00:50:09.489 --> 00:50:12.269
Just put it on Twitter. Put it on Instagram.

00:50:13.630 --> 00:50:16.829
to strike a pose and go for it. Yeah, I'll get

00:50:16.829 --> 00:50:20.949
involved. But yeah, so... I've got my guess.

00:50:21.070 --> 00:50:22.889
You've got your guess. Okay. I think I have a

00:50:22.889 --> 00:50:26.750
guess. Bradley Cooper from A Star is Born. Ding,

00:50:27.230 --> 00:50:31.889
ding, ding. We have a winner. Look at that. My

00:50:31.889 --> 00:50:35.329
favorite movie. I actually really enjoyed that

00:50:35.329 --> 00:50:36.750
movie. It still shouldn't have been nominated

00:50:36.750 --> 00:50:40.670
for shit, but... I appreciate that you finally

00:50:40.670 --> 00:50:45.599
threw us a bone with the... hint, because I was

00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:47.860
never going to get that, but then looking, once

00:50:47.860 --> 00:50:49.179
you said that, I'm like, alright, let me just

00:50:49.179 --> 00:50:52.340
review some recent Oscar films. And I'm like,

00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:54.820
oh, Star is Born. I think he had a beard in that.

00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:58.639
So I was talking to Kylie. Yeah, so I'm trying

00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:00.679
to pull that off. We'll see what happens. My

00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:02.440
hair does not grow very long, so it's probably

00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:06.239
going to be done April, May. Do I win something?

00:51:06.699 --> 00:51:10.880
You win the respect and admiration of us. Nice.

00:51:11.230 --> 00:51:13.190
I'm going to, like, actually do a better look

00:51:13.190 --> 00:51:14.849
at what he looks like. Because I've never seen,

00:51:15.010 --> 00:51:17.269
I haven't seen the remake of A Star is Born.

00:51:17.610 --> 00:51:20.130
Okay, so I didn't know if you had or not. It's

00:51:20.130 --> 00:51:23.150
funny, so yesterday I was talking to Kyle about

00:51:23.150 --> 00:51:24.989
it and saying how my hair is long and everything

00:51:24.989 --> 00:51:27.250
like that. And he goes, why are you growing your

00:51:27.250 --> 00:51:28.809
hair out? I told him about Mike's mane, blah,

00:51:28.869 --> 00:51:31.650
blah, blah. Literally, as soon as I finish, because

00:51:31.650 --> 00:51:34.309
he goes, oh, what are you trying to do it as?

00:51:34.610 --> 00:51:36.750
And I was like, I can't tell you because people

00:51:36.750 --> 00:51:39.769
are guessing. As soon as I finish saying that.

00:51:40.380 --> 00:51:44.320
In the shallow, shallow. It's like playing over

00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:46.940
the speaker at, we were at Noodles and Company.

00:51:47.139 --> 00:51:52.099
And I'm like, oh my God, it's a sign. Yes. I

00:51:52.099 --> 00:51:55.679
look forward to seeing the final product. Let's

00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:57.960
see if I get bored with it first. Let's see if

00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:01.719
I make it. That was like shot in the dark guessing.

00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:04.099
No, that was a good guess. Well done. Well done.

00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:06.599
This is what, our second time? So Mike's main.

00:52:07.019 --> 00:52:09.679
That was a great segment, guys. It's now gone.

00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:12.079
I'm going to get you, like, one of those, like,

00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:13.900
the things you put on your fridge. Like, the

00:52:13.900 --> 00:52:15.840
guys with, like, the magnets inside that you,

00:52:15.860 --> 00:52:18.159
like, do the hair. Holy Billy? That dude. We'll

00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:21.539
get you one of those. And then every month or

00:52:21.539 --> 00:52:25.340
so, you can do, like, guess the cinema hair.

00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:27.480
That'd be fun. Yeah, we could do that. Something

00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:29.440
like that. I can't think of a good alliteration

00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:31.519
with cinema and another word for hair that starts

00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:35.559
with the letter C. Cinema cut. Cinema cut. I

00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:38.050
don't know. Okay, well, that'll bring us to our

00:52:38.050 --> 00:52:42.670
next new segment. So this came about because

00:52:42.670 --> 00:52:45.389
Netflix is releasing a new movie on streaming

00:52:45.389 --> 00:52:48.769
every week this year. Of course, we have HBO

00:52:48.769 --> 00:52:51.429
Max is releasing a bunch of movies as well. So

00:52:51.429 --> 00:52:53.949
we're going to do the work for you. We're going

00:52:53.949 --> 00:52:57.090
to see those movies that are getting released

00:52:57.090 --> 00:53:00.289
week after week or on different stations or whatever.

00:53:00.889 --> 00:53:03.550
And we're going to tell you if it is hashtag

00:53:03.550 --> 00:53:08.590
cash or trash. Those cash movies, the ones you

00:53:08.590 --> 00:53:10.550
should see. I just hit the table. I'm so excited.

00:53:11.289 --> 00:53:13.389
The cash movies are the ones you should see.

00:53:13.449 --> 00:53:16.110
The trash movies, throw it out. Get rid of it.

00:53:16.730 --> 00:53:21.349
Okay. Jill, you had one that you had seen. Yes.

00:53:22.150 --> 00:53:25.489
I watched, let me bring up specs for it just

00:53:25.489 --> 00:53:29.369
so everything is correct. I watched the recently

00:53:29.369 --> 00:53:32.670
released Little White Tiger. Priyanka Chopra.

00:53:33.130 --> 00:53:38.760
Yes, Priyanka Chopra. Directed by... Come on.

00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:41.619
Load, load, load. I want to make sure I pronounce

00:53:41.619 --> 00:53:47.139
the director's name correctly. First year. Where's

00:53:47.139 --> 00:53:50.539
the director information? Directed by Ramin Baharani.

00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:57.579
Ramin. Starring Priyanka Chopra, as Mike said,

00:53:57.780 --> 00:54:05.239
as well as Indian actor Ardash Gaurav. This is...

00:54:06.219 --> 00:54:08.340
Yeah, I believe it actually is fully. It's directed

00:54:08.340 --> 00:54:10.800
by, I believe the director's Armenian. It is

00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:14.280
an Indian production. It is pulling from IMDb

00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:15.739
because I think this is just a really good summary.

00:54:15.980 --> 00:54:18.940
An ambitious Indian driver uses his wit and cunning

00:54:18.940 --> 00:54:21.980
to escape from poverty and rise to the top. And

00:54:21.980 --> 00:54:24.420
it's based on a New York Times bestselling novel

00:54:24.420 --> 00:54:28.619
by the same name. It is definitely cash. Watch

00:54:28.619 --> 00:54:32.230
this movie. If you've heard anything about it,

00:54:32.289 --> 00:54:35.570
you've probably heard comparisons to Parasite

00:54:35.570 --> 00:54:38.769
and perhaps Joker. I'm not going to tip my hat

00:54:38.769 --> 00:54:41.050
and tell you which film I think it leans more

00:54:41.050 --> 00:54:47.050
towards, but if you enjoy black comedy and a

00:54:47.050 --> 00:54:53.170
very scathing criticism of class, then this is

00:54:53.170 --> 00:54:56.030
definitely a movie for you. It is a little bit

00:54:56.030 --> 00:54:59.909
long. It's over two hours. So bring some popcorn,

00:55:00.130 --> 00:55:03.590
get a large drink. But it's really, really good.

00:55:03.829 --> 00:55:06.789
Nice. Mitchell, I forgot to ask you before the

00:55:06.789 --> 00:55:12.489
show. Did you have one for this or? No. The last

00:55:12.489 --> 00:55:15.070
thing I saw on Netflix that was an original was

00:55:15.070 --> 00:55:17.989
Queen's Gambit. And people love it. So, yes.

00:55:18.590 --> 00:55:22.679
That's a watch. Queen's Gambit cash. Okay, perfect.

00:55:22.860 --> 00:55:26.840
I have Outside the Wire, which was the second

00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:30.159
released one for Netflix, starring Anthony Mackie.

00:55:30.260 --> 00:55:34.320
It is a war film about a drone pilot who gets

00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:36.559
put on the front line to learn the value of human

00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:39.019
life, and he gets assigned to Anthony Mackie's

00:55:39.019 --> 00:55:42.059
cyborg. Yes, he is a cyborg. So it's like great,

00:55:42.260 --> 00:55:46.519
but with robots. Yes. And basically, they have

00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:53.369
to get this... vaccine to war criminals uh outside

00:55:53.369 --> 00:55:58.110
the wire roll credits um the first half of the

00:55:58.110 --> 00:56:03.929
movie was cash and then it went all wrong straight

00:56:03.929 --> 00:56:07.309
trash uh so i will say it is straight trash uh

00:56:07.309 --> 00:56:10.789
including a predictable ending that you can guess

00:56:10.789 --> 00:56:12.989
what happens especially when you get to about

00:56:12.989 --> 00:56:15.030
the halfway point you know what's going to happen

00:56:15.030 --> 00:56:18.469
um That's no good. And so then it just gets boring.

00:56:18.630 --> 00:56:21.409
And a war movie with cyborgs that gets boring.

00:56:21.789 --> 00:56:26.429
Hmm. I wonder why it doesn't work. You know,

00:56:26.449 --> 00:56:29.530
Battleship is a war movie with giant boats fighting

00:56:29.530 --> 00:56:31.829
giant ships. And that movie got immediately boring.

00:56:31.949 --> 00:56:34.769
So never doubt the ability to get boring. Yes.

00:56:34.769 --> 00:56:37.349
Yeah, that's true. That is true. And like we've

00:56:37.349 --> 00:56:40.730
always said, like a boring movie is miserable.

00:56:41.429 --> 00:56:43.949
Yes. Yeah. That is the worst kind. That is the

00:56:43.949 --> 00:56:47.889
worst kind. Yep. So. Was it just poorly acted,

00:56:48.050 --> 00:56:50.670
or just... No, like, Anthony Mackie... Anthony

00:56:50.670 --> 00:56:53.730
Mackie acts the shit out of it, and I can't remember

00:56:53.730 --> 00:56:56.010
the other guy's name. I just can't pull it up,

00:56:56.050 --> 00:56:58.969
but the other guy's pretty good, too. It's just

00:56:58.969 --> 00:57:02.210
the storyline just gets so convoluted, and there's

00:57:02.210 --> 00:57:08.289
a war dog that they're trying for, and they basically

00:57:08.289 --> 00:57:13.369
go... They try to outsmart themselves. Anthony

00:57:13.369 --> 00:57:15.389
Mackie, you know, is a cyborg from almost the

00:57:15.389 --> 00:57:18.800
beginning. and you realize he's doing things

00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:23.679
that are strange because he's breaking his three

00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:26.980
rules of robotics you know like it's and it's

00:57:26.980 --> 00:57:30.539
pretty obvious he's doing it and it's all because

00:57:30.539 --> 00:57:32.820
he wants to be the hero that takes down this

00:57:32.820 --> 00:57:36.880
war dog that is the bad guy and then there's

00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:40.500
another twist that happens that i will save well

00:57:40.500 --> 00:57:44.460
i mean We haven't gotten this far in a cache

00:57:44.460 --> 00:57:46.539
of trash because this is brand new. Do you guys

00:57:46.539 --> 00:57:48.380
want to know the ending? Because I'm saying to

00:57:48.380 --> 00:57:52.380
trash, don't watch it. Yeah. I'm going to say

00:57:52.380 --> 00:57:54.159
I'm never going to watch it either. Even though

00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:56.460
I am sad to know, like, I like Anthony Mackie.

00:57:56.460 --> 00:57:58.480
He's an actor and he's one of those people where

00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:00.059
it's like, if I see he's in a thing, I'm going

00:58:00.059 --> 00:58:02.659
to want to watch it. Right. And like he produced

00:58:02.659 --> 00:58:04.619
this one too. So I was thinking, Oh, this will

00:58:04.619 --> 00:58:09.199
be great. Yeah. Um, so he kills the war dog.

00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:13.840
And then he, like, knocks out the human that

00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:17.460
is with him and leaves him for dead, kind of.

00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:24.219
Because he is going to nuke the U .S. That escalated

00:58:24.219 --> 00:58:27.079
quickly. Yes. He's going to nuke the U .S. and

00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:33.099
basically fix the world's problems. So he's an

00:58:33.099 --> 00:58:37.940
eco -terrorist? Kind of, yeah. I guess if you're

00:58:37.940 --> 00:58:40.039
nuking the world, that puts you solidly in the

00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:42.579
eco -terrorism camp. Right. And so he's going

00:58:42.579 --> 00:58:47.440
to do this to get rid of the problems, I guess.

00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:52.019
And the human has to come to its aid and put

00:58:52.019 --> 00:58:55.579
him out of his misery. Which basically, if the

00:58:55.579 --> 00:58:59.039
human ever set out the tracker chip, they would

00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:01.199
shut down the cyborg and then start from scratch

00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:03.639
because it was like an experiment. So he has

00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:06.639
him cut out his tracker. That kind of stuff.

00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:09.460
And it's like obvious, oh God, he's going to

00:59:09.460 --> 00:59:13.400
turn. You know, like that kind of stuff. Yeah,

00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:16.599
straight trash. I've watched some bad movies

00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:20.239
lately. Sounds like it. Yeah, I'm sorry. You

00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:24.719
need a dose of good quality. Yeah, I've watched

00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:29.039
some decent stuff, but... Watch the White Tiger.

00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:31.719
What the hell is going on? Don't watch Radium

00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:34.860
Girls. That was disappointing. One Night in Miami

00:59:34.860 --> 00:59:37.179
is also very good. Yeah, I'm going to go to town

00:59:37.179 --> 00:59:41.059
on these. Trust me, I'm going to definitely watch

00:59:41.059 --> 00:59:44.780
One Night in Miami. So to conclude our latest

00:59:44.780 --> 00:59:46.980
segment, which is Cash or Trash, hashtag Cash

00:59:46.980 --> 00:59:49.219
or Trash, you can tell us what you've watched,

00:59:49.300 --> 00:59:53.219
that is hashtag Cash or Trash, on Twitter, at

00:59:53.219 --> 00:59:56.039
GameForAMovieP1, Facebook, GameForAMovie, or

00:59:56.039 --> 00:59:59.380
Instagram, GameForAMovie. Tell us what you've

00:59:59.380 --> 01:00:03.219
seen, what's cash, what's trash. Yeah, we'd love

01:00:03.219 --> 01:00:06.960
to get you involved. That'll do it for this episode.

01:00:06.980 --> 01:00:12.500
Episode 28, guys. We are two away from we've

01:00:12.500 --> 01:00:17.639
been doing on the 15s a bad movie together. As

01:00:17.639 --> 01:00:19.000
well as, you know what, I've already spilled

01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:22.300
the beans on Twitter. If you are listening to

01:00:22.300 --> 01:00:25.179
this, please send us the worst movie you have

01:00:25.179 --> 01:00:29.050
ever seen. It is just at the beginning of February

01:00:29.050 --> 01:00:32.730
when this episode gets released. In March, we

01:00:32.730 --> 01:00:37.190
are going to be doing a 64 -movie March Badness

01:00:37.190 --> 01:00:41.170
Tournament. Yeah. I've been taking the worst

01:00:41.170 --> 01:00:43.510
of the worst. Mitchell, you still have to send

01:00:43.510 --> 01:00:45.949
me yours. Can I just throw it out there right

01:00:45.949 --> 01:00:48.809
now? Sure. It's a movie that I... Okay, there

01:00:48.809 --> 01:00:51.269
are two of them. I'm a big fan of superhero movies,

01:00:51.349 --> 01:00:55.019
so whenever they're awfully... made and bad they

01:00:55.019 --> 01:00:58.480
pissed me off okay and uh dark phoenix is by

01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:00.539
far one of the worst movies i've seen in the

01:01:00.539 --> 01:01:05.500
past five years okay and before then where i

01:01:05.500 --> 01:01:08.340
actually felt pissed off for watching it was

01:01:08.340 --> 01:01:11.780
uh ryan reynolds green lantern which i have not

01:01:11.780 --> 01:01:14.820
seen oh good for you it's yeah don't don't put

01:01:14.820 --> 01:01:18.780
yourself through it um we'll add those two okay

01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:21.039
where it's like you look at it and you're like,

01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:23.159
I'm really happy they had a career after this.

01:01:23.820 --> 01:01:26.860
Yes, yes. He's made a career out of making fun

01:01:26.860 --> 01:01:29.820
of that movie. Good for him. Yeah, good for Ryan.

01:01:30.420 --> 01:01:33.039
So I'm going to take your worst of those because

01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:36.139
we're doing one per person just to give shout

01:01:36.139 --> 01:01:38.260
outs and everything like that. I've been taking

01:01:38.260 --> 01:01:40.440
the Rotten Tomatoes score, the average between

01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:43.739
the critics and the audience, and that is deciding

01:01:43.739 --> 01:01:48.369
the seating. Gotcha. So, yes, looking forward

01:01:48.369 --> 01:01:52.090
to that. Our March Badness. If you have a March

01:01:52.090 --> 01:01:54.409
Badness movie that you want to suggest, please

01:01:54.409 --> 01:01:57.550
send it in to us. But yeah, so that'll do it

01:01:57.550 --> 01:01:59.610
for episode 28. And then episode 30, we're going

01:01:59.610 --> 01:02:01.710
to watch a bad movie together. It's going to

01:02:01.710 --> 01:02:04.630
be great. Socially distant, if we have to. If

01:02:04.630 --> 01:02:09.039
we have to, exactly. That new Netflix party is

01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:12.460
now Teleparty. So we can do HBO Max or Amazon

01:02:12.460 --> 01:02:16.139
Prime. No, not Amazon Prime, but Hulu, Disney

01:02:16.139 --> 01:02:18.900
Plus, and Netflix. So we can all watch something

01:02:18.900 --> 01:02:22.019
socially distanced. Maybe T -Dog will join us.

01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:25.260
Maybe T -Dog will join us, yes. But that'll do

01:02:25.260 --> 01:02:27.880
it. I've been your host, Mike. I'm joined by...

01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:31.119
Mitchell. And Jill. Thank you guys very much

01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:33.480
for listening to Game for a Movie, where we ask,

01:02:33.519 --> 01:02:35.559
are you game for a movie? See you next time.