You know what that sound means? It's another
episode of Game for a Movie where we ask, are
you game for a movie? My name is Mike. I'll be
your host. I'm joined by Andre and Jill and Mitchell.
Yeah. I know it's been a minute, fam. How have
we been? The whole team is back together again.
I know. I love it. It makes me so happy to see
everybody together. Just in time for spooky season.
The best season? Question mark? Exclamation point?
It's up there. This is the second episode of
five horror bad movie episodes we've got going
this month. The Silence just released last week
with the Stanley Tuch. The Tuch? I've got a question.
Wasn't enough to save the movie. I've got a question
for all of you guys. after we talk about this
movie and i think i texted to all of you so if
you don't remember now gives you time before
we talk that's right i'm like literally grab
my phone right yeah exactly yeah you gotta look
at it now and figure it out um but yeah we're
gonna talk about that after we talk about this
bad movie and of course after we talk about what
are we drinking audrey what are we drinking well
I got me here the Southern Tier Pump King Imperial
Pumpkin Ale, one of my favorites from the Spooky
Season. It's back again, and it's better than
ever. It's a lovely pumpkin pie in a glass. So
on the scale of squash to pie. It's very pie
forward. It does not taste like a gourd. It tastes
like pumpkin. It's my scale. Squash to pie scale.
I love pie forward as an adjective. Sounds amazing.
I love that. Squash to pie scale is still one
of my favorite names of our episodes. I'm not
claiming credit for coming up with the squash
to pie scale. It doesn't matter. It's a good
way of measuring a pumpkin beer. Or pumpkin anything.
You brought it to the pod. You get the credit
in my mind. Right. I'm also drinking the pumpkin.
We're splitting it. Well, Andre's doing the bulk
of the heavy lifting. She's got a taster. I have
a taster. Joe, well, quick thoughts. What do
you think so far? Did you take a swig yet? It's
good. If you've ever had a bad pumpkin, I feel
bad. I'm sorry for you. This year, it's a good
batch. It must have been a good pumpkin crop
last year. I have no idea. I don't read the Farmer's
Almanac, but it doesn't taste like garbage. Is
the Farmer's Almanac coming into a Back to the
Future reference later in the... Is there a Back
to the Future reference in the movie that I missed?
About Sports Almanac. It's a Sports Almanac.
Farmer's Almanac, Sports Almanac. Okay, it's
a stretch. I don't know if you would want to
do a betting thing on the crop quality. I guess
if you know three years from now, it's going
to be a great season for corn. You buy a bumper
crop of corn and grow the corn. It's Kern. I
never actually saw that TikTok video. Really?
No, I don't have TikTok. Get on TikTok. It would
have filtered down to Instagram or YouTube Shorts
by now. Follow our TikTok at GameForAMovie. Yes,
follow our TikTok at GameForAMovie. And Nerdstar.
Hey, Nerdstar. I listened to this episode. I
like my YouTube content to be like 55 minutes
or longer. But I do have to say I deleted TikTok
because it was melting my attention span. It
was melting his brain. Yes. Honestly, Kelly deletes
it every week, like during the work week. A lot
of that reason. She deletes it and then downloads
it. It's a good self -control. Yeah, for sure.
What are you guys drinking? Mitchell, what do
you got? i got okay so i'm a little basic i do
not have anything spooky season you're basic
all right well uh newsflash um i did buy a variety
pack from founders and i'm currently simping
on all day crimson sky which is a session red
ipa i haven't had a red in a while so this is
pretty refreshing for me nice What's the ABV
on it, if you don't mind me asking? Let me look
that up for you. 4 .7. Session IPA. Nice. Nice
session IPA, yes. Mike? Oh, I got a Freakin'
Nature. Freakin' Nature. Is that what it's called?
That's literally what it's called. I need to
see this can. Oh, okay. All right. It's Wicked
Weed is what it's called. What's the brewery's?
Wicked Weed? That's Wicked Weed Brewing. Wicked
Weed Brewing. It's from Asheville. Some of you
guys know Ben. I know Ben. I sure do. Ben, great
dude. His bachelor party was in Asheville and
we went to Wicked Weed. I'm not joking. This
place was great. Now that I've moved to Charlotte,
Wicked Weed has become regular in my repertoire.
Their main beer is called Pernicious. and that
one is probably my second favorite i've had in
charlotte okay i could drink a pernicious any
day uh the wicked weed freak of nature i wanted
to try it's a double or a dippa dippa okay and
also you can see right here hopefully hold up
i'm trying to do it with my green screen there
we go 8 .5 percent wow whoo big boy Also has
my Buc -ee's koozie over the top. Yes, of course.
Classic Buc -ee's. Love that. Yeah. Yeah. I went
to my first Buc -ee's not that long ago when
we were driving home from my parents who now
live in Florida, which is still weird to me.
What town are they in again in Florida? Near
Fort Myers Beach. Okay. Yeah. What's their address?
23 Fake Street. Yeah. Near Fort Myers Beach.
yeah you can be there 401ks as well yeah it's
uh one two three four five six five five five
five five five klondike amazing but yeah this
thing is 8 .5 and that i had six beers before
this we're gonna have a good night okay all right
ike's ready to go yeah let's go uh we went to
a brewery today that was um it's called slow
play okay They are a very big disc golf brewery.
Oh, okay. So they have a whole disc golf course
in the back that you can just kind of... No,
no, no, no, no, no. So they're right off of Winthrop's
campus, Winthrop University. And Winthrop right
now is hosting the National Disc Golf Championship.
But they sell... They sell disc golf discs. There
was pros hanging out there, including one that
didn't want to know that he was a pro. He didn't
want us to know that he was a pro, but also was
like, yeah, I was disc golfing and I got an ace
on this hole. Is that a hole -in -one in disc
golf terms? Yes, that is a hole -in -one on disc
golf. We're not disc golf people. No offense
to disc golf athletes like pros. could you pick
a professional disc golfer out of a line of a
crowd right yeah like physically are they different
than you know what maybe if they're wearing a
t -shirt or is it like the men's curling team
for the u .s if we weren't at a brewery i'd be
able to say oh the guy with the full beard yeah
he's probably a disc golfer okay got it but it's
not the physique it's the facial hair people
that had full beards and then the full beard
guy comes in and is like i'm not a pro disc golfer
like yeah okay you're you're a pro disc golfer
i mean that you would even bring up disc golf
says to me you're a pro disc golfer it's just
like buddy we weren't talking about disc golf
everybody stop asking me about disc golf god
damn it i don't play You got your putter? Let's
go throw a few. I didn't even think about disc
golf. Man, that crowd sounds amazing. Speaking
of things that nobody talks about, our bad movie.
wow amazing segue segue love it so smooth yeah
this is smooth as my all -day crimson sky oh
wow we're on it we're potting we're we are potting
so hard right now it's great uh all right we
gotta talk about a bad movie yes let's go friends
we're going to talk about urban legends bloody
mary which is a part of the urban legend um I
guess series. It's a trilogy now. It's a trilogy
now. Yeah, I had never heard of this trilogy.
Me neither. I was not aware that Urban Legend
was like a private movie series. And also, I
assumed that it was like a bunch of other urban
legends. Like, okay, this one's Bloody Mary,
and then the other one would be Candyman or whatever.
You know what I mean? No, no, no. Candyman is
its own thing. No one can do an urban legend
of Candyman because that's like an IP. There's
an IP? Okay, understood. My bad. But you know
what I mean, though. Yeah. And Candyman is particularly
sweet to my heart. I wasn't trying to drag down
Candyman to this movie's level. All right. So
the thing about Candyman. So Candyman takes place
in Cabrini Green. When I worked at Big Ten Network,
Cabrini Green was right next to our office. There
is murals of Candyman. Is this in Pennsylvania?
Because I thought it took place in Philadelphia.
This one takes place in Utah. No, I know this
movie takes place in Utah. Candyman. No, Candyman's
in Chicago. It's Chicago. Okay. Yes, it's in
Cabrini Green. Philadelphia. Not the same. No,
it's in Cabrini Green in Chicago. Sport fans
would hate me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the funny
thing is, it's not even Chicago fans would hate
you for mixing that up. Philly fans would get
mad at you for saying that it's in Philly. They're
like, no, Chicago, we hate them. You guys are
your own breed of fandom right there. Yeah. Philadelphia
fans booed Santa Claus. Urban Legends, Bloody
Mary, the final film in a trilogy series? I actually
think they tried to reboot already. Did they?
Yeah, but it was like a direct TV. This movie
itself was a direct TV. It's been almost 20 years.
Wow. Time to bring it back up. Mitchell, you
have not seen this film. I have not seen this
film. I can't wait to hear about it. I did see
the very first urban legend. So the first chapter
of this trilogy, um, I was younger too. I was
probably in high school. So this is well after
the movie actually came out in theaters. So I
watched it at home at some point with some friends.
Um, but you know, in the original Jared Leto
was in that, uh, a young Tara Reed was in that
in this one, right? This is from my very brief,
um, research into this. This stars a young Kate
Mara. Mara? Mara. Mara. And a young Rooney Mara,
apparently. Oh, is Rooney in this too? She's
like an extra. Rooney's like a student in the
high school. I see. I see. So this is the only
movie of the franchise that went straight to
video. Yes. This did not get a wide release,
which tells me everything I need to know. And
if you're wondering why I chose this one, it's
because it was Kate Mara. Right. So what I've
been trying to do lately with the bad movies
is pick people that are like, oh, I recognize
that person. Why'd they go into this movie? Well,
right. Well, this is more like this is probably
she like like one of her first movies. She probably
filmed. Oh, wait, no, bro. I'm looking at Wikipedia
right now. Like she's she's in a movie since
like ninety nine. But yes, you're right. This
is the first leading. This is the first. Yeah,
this is probably the first leading role besides
Fanforestick. oh my god but but but she had house
of cards by fan forestick yeah yeah i just wanted
to remind you of fan forestick she also was in
transcendence which is another bad movie i've
covered on this thing yeah yeah yeah yeah i just
wonder i'll say this in the same year She also
starred, obviously not in a leading role, but
she did star in Brokeback Mountain. That's right.
Oh, my God. Oscar caliber film. Who did she play
in Brokeback Mountain? She plays one of the characters,
right? Alma Jr. Age 19. Age 19. Was that Anne
Hathaway's character? I'm trying to remember.
Michelle Williams. Michelle Williams. Yeah. That's
right. Yeah. Younger version of Michelle Williams.
Yes. I'm not joking. Like normally on this stuff,
I need to look it up and everything like that.
You asked questions as I was figuring it out
and it just worked perfectly that I can go, Oh,
Alma jr. Age 19. Well done. Well done. I will
say that if you've ever seen the episode of supernatural,
that is also about bloody Mary. It's far scarier.
I'm sure it was much more well done than this
movie. Oh, definitely. I've seen that one and
I love that one. I love that one so much better
than this shit. That's actually a good jumping
off point because this does really feel like
straight to, not even just TV, but TV, super
low budget. This feels like a bad Supernatural
episode. Yes, right. It would be like the third
episode of a very forgotten you know, horror
TV series that didn't make it past the first
season. I mean, let's just talk about the very
beginning starts with like a word art title sequence.
Yes. Oh man, the power of the word art titles.
Yeah, exactly. Like urban legend. Bloody Mary.
Yep. And then we'll put it right into a flashback
of the late sixties in front of a classic California
high school standing in for something in Utah.
69. 1969. And we see some, you know, a bunch
of girls going to prom or homecoming. Some school
dance that people did. It's homecoming. It was
homecoming. It's homecoming because it lines
up. It's not a hold for homecoming. Well, no,
and that's the weird part about it. So the description
of this movie before I read it was about prom.
And literally they say it's homecoming for both
of them. Oh, that's a fuck up. It's not. It doesn't
make any goddamn sense. All right. So, yeah,
we'll set the scene. So as we're saying, Flash
opens horrible, horrible title sequence. Someone
was really proud of their ward art skills. 1969.
I'm a digital artist. They're going to homecoming.
There's photos. There's laughs. There's guys
putting drugs in the fruit punch. These are all
football players, too, by the way. They're all
in their Letterman jackets. Rohypnol. Yeah, Rohypnol.
Putting Rohypnol in all their dates' drinks.
I learned that I can't spell Rohypnol while trying
to type my notes. Probably a good thing. Yeah,
probably a good thing. We see the girls getting
served the roofied punch by their dates, the
football team. And yeah, they're laughing. More
photography. Ha ha ha. We love homecoming. All
right, girls. Why don't we go somewhere else?
And now the girls are roofied. And one of them,
Mary, she doesn't drink any of the punch. She
kind of wisens up to the fact this doesn't look
like a good scene. Get away from me, boyfriend.
I don't want to be with you. Off she runs. Boyfriend
follows. And this basically sets up everything.
She thinks she's escaped him. He comes out of
the shadows. Oh no, it's totally fine. Don't
worry about them. All is good here. She's like,
I don't think so. And then he shoves her. She
hits her head. Down she goes. Bam. Mary is dead.
giant gash on her head he looks down and tries
to and checks for her pulse and then he freaks
out and then one of his football friends be like
hey where's mary i don't know dude i thought
she was in here but i can't find her okay well
we're gonna go have fun with the other ladies
that we date we date drug whatever you know we'll
also say that like we never see it but mary apparently
gets put in a trunk in this school, like, authorized
personnel only area. Right, right, right. This
is all taking place. The shoving and the hitting
of the head, the gashing and stuff is in, like,
the suit that, like, I understood it as... The
boiler room. The boiler room. The abandoned wing
of your high school. Yeah, it's a boiler room.
Let's just call it what it is, because I have
a note about boiler room later. But it's also,
like, up a staircase? Yeah, right. Like, it was
a boiler room, but, like, they went upstairs,
so I don't like... Did they go upstairs? I thought
they went downstairs. Maybe, I don't know. I
couldn't tell. The editing wasn't great in this
movie. Maybe Mitchell or the listener have attended
a high school that has have a cordoned off wing
that just says personnel only. And when you go
behind the door, everything is just in bad, rusty,
old ass shape. Like nothing is built. There's
no construction going on, but you've got rust.
You've got detritus. You've got random chests
with locks on them. Yeah. That's the important
thing. That was the boys' locker room, for sure.
You're American high school, if you will. Missing
the Axe body spray, but yes. So that's where
Mary takes a tumble, hits her head, seemingly
dies, and jock boyfriend is like, oh no, what
do I do? I'll just shove this body away somewhere.
But they don't show that. No, they do not. They
don't. They don't. Cut to present day. Because
they're trying to hide something from you that
I'm going to ask later if you can figure it out.
Because this is, like I said, in our text chain,
this is a very predictable movie. It was. Yes,
exactly. It's just like, oh, God. Yeah, we pivot
to present day. 2005. 2005, present day. 2005,
present day. We're in the present. Almost 30
years after 69. Yes. And how do you go from horrific
murder to present day? A sexy girl sleepover
party. Wait. It's 2005. They said 30 years later.
Do you really think this movie can do math? So
is it 99 then? 35 years later is what I'm saying.
They had a cell phone. They said 30 years later.
Okay, well, then it's apparently 1999 and everyone
has flip phones for some reason. Actually, I'm
looking at my notes going, they said. 30 years
later okay according to wikipedia it says 35
years and then it's they say 30 years but i think
they're kind of rounding up okay sure i also
wasn't drunk for this screening so so your numbers
are right I actually believe my numbers. If I
was drunk, yes. 35, okay, fine, whatever. Fair
enough. No, but it's definitely 2005 because
our main girl wears a skinny scarf later that
is very of the year. No, I agree completely.
And the Uggs. There are so many Uggs in this
movie. Oh my God, there's so many Uggs. I'm glad
I wasn't the only one that noticed this shit.
Yep. So as I was saying, we... go from murder
to present day, and what better way to kind of
lead us in but a sexy girl sleepover party. There's
two pillow fights in five minutes. There was
two pillow fights. So many pillow fights. Lots
of pillow fights, lots of crotch shots, lots
of boobs. Yes, lots of boobs. It was a lot of
weird high school boob shots. I need to look
up their names, but it was Mindy, first off,
and what was the other girl's name? Shit. Which
one is Mindy? Is Mindy the busty one or the brunette?
She is played by Alessa Rulan. Right. What's
the other name next to it? There is a Martha.
There's a Natalie. Yes. Okay. Mindy and Martha.
Martha. Martha. Why did you say that name? Why
did you say that name? Oh, God. Kate Mara is
among her friends. Her name is Sam. It is Homecoming.
They're not at homecoming and having to sleep
over instead because they're not like other girls.
They don't care about like other girls. They
couldn't get dates. And Samantha or Kate Mara,
she works for the newspaper club and she wrote
an article about the football team that kind
of hate like ripped into the fact that they're
not smart. They're not talented, but they're
on the football team. So people have to put up
with their shit. Oh, no. It was also like covering
up their poor academic standings. So that was
that was part of their life. Yeah, I don't. Which
happens all the time. You know, I accept that.
So that's why they're they're home. It happens
in college. Right. Yeah. So it happens. So, yeah.
And then they like talk about how they're so
quirky and that they're probably socially ostracized
for not hanging out with the football team. And
then they got talking about the urban like the
urban legend of what had just taken place. Bloody
Mary. Bloody Mary. something about yeah whatever
don't say bloody mary three times she'll haunt
you forever right and then so kmr of course says
bloody mary three times in a row when they're
all giggling cheesy bad laughing from the girls
by the way yes very bad every time she goes very
bad obviously dubbed over laughing also you're
kind of selling it short because of this the
way the scene plays out so like they talk about
it they kind of giggle and laugh and then collapse
each other with each like collapse on the front
on the ground giggling holding pillows yeah and
she's like bloody mary does it a second time
same amount of like canned laughter and she does
this like wicked smile and then does it for a
third time and the room is just silent but the
way that she says it's like oh you know i'm talking
about something naughty ha ha ha it's like no
you're you're summoning a horrible specter a
demon good for you girl um So that's how we kind
of set up the film. Her twin brother, at some
point, David, does show up. He makes an appearance.
They kind of, like, shoo him out of the room.
He compliments Mindy and her breasts. Yes. Very
weird. And the scene ends. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
We forgot to talk about the parents. The mom
and the stepdad. We're introduced to mom and
stepdad. And stepdad. The stepdad is currently
running for council. Whatever. There's an election
season. Mayor? I don't know. Whatever. Local
election. He's running for mayor. Ed Marinaro.
Yeah. And, you know, they're, like, commenting
about, like, how, like, oh, man, like, is this
a normal sleepover party or whatever? Blah. And
he takes a peek at the girls. Yeah, the stepdad
takes a peek at the girls and it's weird. He's
creepy. It's weird. We get creepy vibes off dad.
Yeah. And then suddenly, so, like, after everything.
Stepdad. Wait, we got to address the stepdad.
Yeah, he is stepdad. He is not their biological
father. Oh, that's how they get around it. Oh,
I know this trick. Yeah, yeah. I've seen this
one before. Yep. What was it? Oh, yeah. So then
we have Bloody Mary gets summoned. We see her
specter show up in the street in front of the
house. I will say, by the way, the establishing
shot of this goddamn house was used at least
seven times in this movie. You could take a drink
every time they shot it. Exactly. You could play
a drinking game. I was going to say, I think
seven is low. Yeah. It's the same shot, too.
Every single time. yeah it was like very like
what what is going on here anyways um so then
that happens and then suddenly we cut to school
the next day and the three girls are missing
and that's like the movie just kind of takes
a pause for five 15 minutes of like what happened
to the girls like and you're like i don't know
what it was trying to do where it was like oh
hey um like did bloody mary capture kidnapped
him somehow yeah but it doesn't really land because
they quickly resolve the fact that like oh no
no they didn't even address that it was bloody
mary they were just like oh they just disappeared
yeah they just disappeared and it's like there's
just five minutes of like the mom being worried
sick the brother being worried sick and then
it just very quickly resolves of like oh they
should like like literally kate like they're
like getting like pis involved and stuff like
that and i also want to address So the first
school scene, they're in the science class talking
about gorillas and how gorillas work as a unit.
Yes. Oh, yes. As we're introduced to the football
team. As we're introduced to the football team.
And, like, literally the science teacher is like,
the gorillas are ruled by a dominant. And this
football player walks through the scene at this
point and, like, grabs a piece of paper about
where they go. This is Buck. It's like, where'd
they go? And he grabs a piece of paper and you're
like, oh, cool. Thanks, film. Heavy handed, letting
me know that Buck is the dominant. Yeah, right.
Yeah. Yeah. The movie doesn't try to hide the
fact that the football team probably was involved.
Buck, who was our main jock, Buck Jacoby. He
has a girlfriend named Heather. Heather's a little
worried because she was friends. I'm going to
call you out for this. They say Jacoby. Buck
Jacoby. His girlfriend Heather. I didn't want
to call you out for it, but I needed to call
you out for it. Jacoby sounds perfect for this
movie. This movie is very heavy handed. Don't
get me wrong. Can Buck Jacoby be played by an
actual teenager rather than Buck Jacoby being
played by a 27 -year -old? Yeah, we should also
say that all of these people look pushing 30,
but that's every movie. So yeah, so Buck's girlfriend
Heather, she was friends with Sam at some point
that kind of established that. She's worried,
and they're like, oh, don't worry about it. But,
you know, like I said, the film does a pretty
heavy -handed job of making sure they're in on
it. So later that day... The PIs, as Andrea was
saying, get involved. And then Sam just kind
of wanders into the house. They're focusing on
the mom and the brother trying to console each
other. And then Kate Mara just walks onto the
screen. And it's just like, oh. Covered in mud.
What's that? Covered in mud. Oh, my God. You're
back. Wow. so like there's like just no lead
up to it it's just like oh hey she's back uh
we resolve this plot thread uh yeah it turns
out the jocks they're just being goofy little
guys and uh taking them out to the to the forest
and playing a prank on them you know yeah uh
we get yeah we get hints to it but yeah as andrew
was saying the jocks kidnapped like broke into
their home kidnapped them dunked them like 20
miles out of town in a locked room and then somehow
they got out and came back but they're not saying
anything so they said they specifically said
like they did they ran medical tests on the three
girls and they were not abused in any way or
whatever so they made up the movie made a point
to say oh yeah i also want to make a comment
at this point that david owens the brother yes
uh he was res in spy kids 3d Yeah, I saw that.
He's one of the kids that Juni, I think, meets.
He's either one of the kids that Juni meets in
the very beginning when he goes into the game,
or he's one of the programmers. Don't ask why
I remember the movie that well. His picture in
IMDb looks like a comb -over. He was born in
1987. No, he's the picture for... and like the
the thing that is first by kids so he's one of
the kids he meets in the very first level so
he's not a programmer he's a play tester um but
the the day after the girls come back they're
back in school and this is the point where the
movie's narrative really pissed me off because
somebody utters the line oh maybe the girls did
this to themselves as a little prank yeah for
attention yeah that was the line okay i was trying
to figure out yeah and they they roofed themselves
they drove themselves 20 miles out of town and
uh they're back and uh pesky girls go for it
mike no i was just gonna say like uh i agree
completely and a woman wrote this movie yes i
also think the brother was like way too attentive
to his sister just so we're clear on this part
because i'll say something about the brother
later okay all right yeah okay keep going then
we're good so basically for the rest of the big
chunk of this fucking movie is just a very generic
like um killing spree themselves right no oh
well no okay sorry what okay well it's just it's
basically for the next hour of this movie oh
my god this movie is just a one -on -one kill
sequence where bloody mary goes it goes through
the like the whole football team basically right
yeah all of that but we have to talk about those
because literally one of them was a tanning bed
yeah do you mean you mean the part of the movie
where i saw a man like A view of a man's balls
I didn't need to see. Yeah, it was very strange.
I love that sequence, though. That was so hilarious.
I also love the fact that they address that he
goes to the tanning salon and his ass is bare.
Like, his ass is, like, white. Yeah, yeah. Right,
right, right. Okay, so the lead -up to this scene
is that one of the football kids, two of the
jocks are making fun of another guy in the showers,
and they're like, wow, your ass is so white.
Roger. Poor Roger. They're making fun of his
white ass. And, you know, he obviously takes
it to heart because the next scene is him going
to a tanning salon. So they establish why he
goes to the tanning salon. To see his lady who
works there. The tanning girl, Betsy. Yes, that's
true, too. You're right. So Roger is played by
an actor who's in their mid -20s at best. But
he's supposed to be an 18 -year -old, 17 -year
-old. The actress who plays Betsy is in her late
20s, early 30s. But she's supposed to be like
a 25 -year -old something hitting on a 16 to
17 -year -old. And also says like, oh, my God.
Oh, no way. Her shtick is that she's the flighty
blonde who's always on the phone and like, oh,
my God. Oh, my God. My responsibilities don't
mean anything as long as this conversation has
to happen. As Andre said, we start to see the
killing spree, so Bloody Mary is taking revenge
on all of those on the football team. Sam is
getting, like, flashes of Bloody Mary, but doesn't
really know what it means. Right, she's, like,
suspecting something is off, but the vibes are
just off right now. She doesn't know. Her friends,
by the way, completely disappear from the movie.
That's true! Wow, you're right! There were three
girls that were captured, and they just left
the movie after that. They decide that she's
the problem. They ditch her. But, like, it's
weird. It's weird that they just ditch her. Because
nobody addresses the fact that they think it's
her. That's what that's what. Yeah, they set
this up after the like the second murder that
they think. Right. So basically the football
players are going down one by one, which we'll
get through. Well, and like Buck is like, sure
that it's Samantha pulling this like game revenge,
that kind of stuff. But the girls never address
that they think it's her. And like this is even
before we learn that Buck thinks that Samantha
did it. And. They sit at the science lab with
where they sit next to Samantha. And all of a
sudden she gets to the lab table and they just
like stand up and go, yeah, we're sitting somewhere
else. And they don't say anything. Right. It's
weird that they got affected together. And they
set it up. It's strange. Going back to Roger,
he goes to the tanning salon. He sees Betsy.
Betsy lets him get in the bed, you know, sets
him up with the tanning. booth she sets the timer
they imply that the reason the other reason he
goes is he like naps there like he is he's kind
of getting tan but it's more just to have a bed
to nap in and maybe have some dalliance puts
it on like two out of like 15 yeah and that's
where we get the first murder right so betsy
goes and takes a call from somebody else and
it's just i've been gabbing gabbing on the phone
for hours and strom and thermostat starts to
climb That thermostat starts to climb. It goes
from two to three, and then it suddenly goes
super high. So many shots of his balls. It got
to 12, and he's starting to smoke. Literally,
the tiny bed is smoking, and he's banging on
them. How does he not realize this, by the way?
Because he never pushed the door open. Is this
like a frog in hot water situation? You know
what I mean? You're just gradually turning it
up. He figured it out. He's like, oh, Betsy.
Can we talk about the camera angle, though? What
was the camera angle? The balls. You get balls
and they were sure they were like, we need a
goddamn inside tanning bed cam angle here. Sure.
And it was squared right in between, like right.
It was worn groin like shirts on or shorts. Yeah.
But like that camera might have been in balls
and crotch. Yeah. What was this movie rated in
my mind? I'm thinking PG 13. It's our. It's an
R movie. But there's no boobs. That's the thing
that bugged me about this movie. It was this
R. And if you're a horror movie and you're rated
R. Go for the fucking gore. Yeah, it was not
gore enough for that. They went for the curses,
I think. Yeah, right. I think they probably just
submitted it and they just did not give a fuck
enough to be like, oh, normally they would come
back and be like, we're not changing anything.
Yeah, it's rated for strong violence, gore, drug
use, and some language. Yeah, but it's not you're
not getting likes. Yeah, there's drug use for
sure. Oh, that's my favorite character. Me too.
The drugs? No. Grace. Oh, Grace. We'll get to
Grace. So Roger is flambéed. For this death inside
the tanning booth. Yeah. Remind me if I see him
die. you don't say okay you don't but you just
you just you just can't do yeah and the charred
corpse was the most hilarious fucking party halloween
lawn decoration i lost my shit that's why i love
like it just cut they're like you know that was
the whole suspense thing like right they're like
they like oh my god i just didn't know i left
him alone and then like they pan over to the
tanning salon and it's just fucking like a plastic
skeleton well no it was even a it wasn't even
just a skeleton the skeleton and yes was hysterical
then they just put like black ash around it that
obviously wasn't like flambéed corpse no right
it was just black whatever just a fake charred
body it was good yeah isn't this a death and
final destination as well it is i had a note
about this yes and i told you i was like oh so
we're just final destination so this is you know
let's let's let's take a point for this movie
pulling From an existing film franchise or an
existing film in general. So we got one, one
borrowed kill sequence, et cetera. Mike is showing
notes. Okay. So here, here's my thing. I just
did a quick Google. So apparently this tanning
boot thing and Mike, this could be in your notes.
It happens at final destination. I can't, I can't.
Are we pulling a Final Destination with this
tanning bed? That's exactly what I said. Upon
further review, Final Destination does this in
2006 in Final Destination 3. Final Destination
get fucked! Wow. Holy shit. This movie walks
so Final Destination could run. wow is this the
legacy of the movie no this movie didn't walk
this movie died slowly like its first leg it
rolled it rolled very slowly wow and our synopsis
is gonna go slowly if we don't keep it up guys
okay i just i literally just bought the unlimited
zoom so like let's go I love it. No, I saw that
notification. I was like, hmm. And then did you
see it go away? Yeah. So Roger dies. We cut to
a funeral. The remaining football team people
are glaring at Sam and her brother David. And
this is about the time in the movie where Sam
starts to be like, something's wrong here. Like,
I feel it. So Heather, who is a girlfriend of
one of the football players, she kind of has
like a... cagey conversation with sam where she
ultimately gives her she comes over to the house
she gives her her sam's textbooks because sam
hasn't been in school they have a heated conversation
heather leaves and sam opens the textbook to
find like a letter written to heather but it's
like handprint blood and we're like oh written
in blood what is this end of scene we don't know
what this note is next morning we wake up to
heather and you know Women, those who have a
morning routine, men, women, anyone in between,
maybe you do this. You wake up out of bed, stretch,
take off your top, you put on your high heels,
and you go to the shower. She does put on her
high heels. We see her take off her top, and
then she gets in her high heels. Goes into the
bathroom, washes her face, turns to the side,
sees a zit, because in the middle of the night,
a spider climbed down. a cgi spider very bad
cgi spider yeah that's that's a very bad cgi
spider and she's got the zit she's right yeah
i actually had to ask andre if it was real no
yeah you did ask if it was real i was like that
is not real jill no no so they got joe at least
yeah i'm sure they got her um and yeah she leans
into the mirror and just pops that tries to pop
that fucking sucker like a balloon she does it
and she got a little blood on there and that
that actually that actually for once freaked
me out oh i i that part is just great like i
hate the popping stuff like that just gets me
i'm like no um and so then um a spider jumps
out of it and it's like oh whoa that's out of
the zit in their face out of this out of the
open ripping off the covenant which i think came
out after this oh i was thinking more mummy but
sure covenant works too yeah doesn't matter zit
spiders like spiders yeah yeah but then spiders
come out but again it's the it's the bad cgi
like i think the mummy like when the guy gets
scarabbed and you see the bumps all over his
skin you know what i mean it was basically better
cgi than this absolutely no that's what i'm saying
but like that's still that's 99 or whatever right
and this is 2005 it's way worse yeah yeah well
so she's freaking out all these spiders are coming
out of her michelle's getting a spider right
now Yeah, he's getting a little spider. Oh, nice.
The broom? Yes, and while this is happening,
Sam, who's on her way to school, she can hear
Heather because her neighbor is screaming. So
she goes up to the house. She's knocking on the
door. Heather, Heather, are you in there? Even
though she can hear Heather screaming. Door is
obviously locked, and it's kind of getting annoying.
Why don't you just break that goddamn window,
Sam? Obviously, this woman is in duress. So much
so that through the shock of spiders coming out
of her face, she... trips falls forward no the
mirror just exploded the mirror just explodes
yeah no the mirror exploded yeah and like lodged
in her face yes like like literally they were
using cg in this movie no like how much practical
effects were happening here because that's the
beauty of horror You could do a lot with very
little budget wise to pull out those kind of
herself is all practical effects. Yes. OK, gotcha.
Right. The mirror was not the spiders were not
the spiders were not right. Anything that was
moving like CGI, but like like wounds after the
fact were practical. That does that make sense?
Yeah. So the makeup was done and all that. I
got you. I got you. She the mirror explodes.
It gets lodged in her forehead. Like any smart,
responsible human being with glass in their face,
she starts to pull it out of her face. And blood
is dripping down. Sam is like, Heather! Heather!
What's going on? Let me in! And then finally
gets, like, the nerve to climb a tree to actually
help her screaming, dying friend. And then finally,
Heather attempts, like, doesn't... She pulls
the glass out, and there's a really weird CGI
cut where it's not clear if she, like, pulled
her face off. Yeah, it looked like she was tearing
her own face off. She definitely pulled her face
off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the movie leader
says, oh, she pulled her face off. And I'm like,
that's what I was supposed to be looking at?
Yeah, she definitely pulled her face off. Even
though the effects and practical effects did
not really convey that well. Heather dies from
blood loss. Heather's gone. So what's our body
count at this point? No. Three with Mary. Three
with Mary. Yeah. Are we supposed to believe Mary
is now doing this to everyone else? Yes. Gotcha.
There's been enough context clues to kind of
plot you there. Mary is definitely dead. Like,
we know she's dead. But now she is reincarnated
as Bloody Mary. Or is reincarnated. Well, we
learn something later. oh he says the third thing
it cuts outside their house and you see a phantom
appears suddenly so you know like okay it's her
you know when we get to a certain character i'll
tell you about the idea that yeah okay so heather
is now dead buck is pissed there's another um
and i included at this point that half of this
movie is just buck looking sad slash angry at
a funeral Yes. That's really true. There's a
lot of funeral scenes. They show every funeral,
which is just like, what? Yeah, it's true. This
is also where Martha and Mindy get away from
her at science class. Yeah, so they're officially
done with her. Sam's trying to convey to her
brother, who has been on her side for most of
this movie. He also figured out that the football
team was behind their abduction. His name is
David, just for future. So yeah, David was on
her side, and she's like, I think it's this.
He's like, you're crazy. So, all right. Well,
that's not helpful. Now let's have another murder.
So number three, Tom, who I have to say brought
this upon himself. Yes, he did. How does he die,
Mike? Okay. So Tom was told by Buck. So Tom's
dad has gas cans behind his house that his father
keeps. And so basically the idea is Buck wants
to burn down the Owens family's house. He wants
revenge for Heather. He wants revenge for Heather.
And so they will kill David. They'll kill Samantha.
They'll kill the rest of the Owens family. So
Tom's like, OK, fine. Puts the gas cans in his
car, which is a truck. And. He's driving down
the road and all of a sudden he sees this figure
in the middle of the road and he thinks he's
going to hit it. So he drives off the road. He
swerves. It's Bloody Mary that he sees in the
road. He didn't hit her or anything like that.
He looks, he like freaks out. Nothing. Okay,
fine. I finished my beer. I'm going to grab another
beer from the truck. Grabs another beer, cracks
it open, starts drinking and realizes he has
to take a piss. so he goes as you do yeah like
i i'm thinking about the side of the road yeah
drain the veins sometimes you know like i'm thinking
about taking a piss right now like i said this
is beer number seven so like i'm thinking about
it that's wild that's wild what don't be a tom
in your this situation don't be a tom yeah don't
be a tom mike jesus i have a toilet right there
it's fine tom however caution electric yeah tom
however Decides to go piss on this fence in the
middle of the road or like on the side of the
road. It's got like a, you know, like a divot,
everything like that. He decides he's going to
take a piss on this fence that has a sign that
says high voltage. But for whatever reason, it's
off. It's off the fence. It's not there. Oh,
that's right. It's on the ground. It's on the
ground. Yeah. Right. So, like, it pans. It shows
on the ground. Yeah. Show, don't tell. Show,
don't tell, right? Right. A little camera. He
does a little movie magic for you. A little storytelling.
He does a little trickle. He's like, okay, cool.
I'm going to test this fence. Yeah, this is working
for me. And you're like, whoa, this fence is
really taking my pee. That's great. It's fine,
yeah. And then, of course, we see Bloody Mary's
hand on, like, a switch. Breaker. Yeah. And it's
just, yeah. As he's pissing, blame Mary's hand
flips the switch. And of course. Everything starts
electric. Electric current goes right up to his
dick and he flies away. And his dick is blown
off. Moldering crotch. This movie now sounds
incredible. Yeah. And then it pans to the next
morning and the cops are looking. The police
are even like, his cock blew off. Yeah, right.
And then they pan to his corpse and his crotch
is still smoking. It's still smoking! So yeah,
that body was lying there in the streets. I don't
know. I guess the kid just blew his dick off.
I don't know. All right. Blowing your dick off
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over there. So I'm looking. I'm good. So I'm
looking through this movie, just like the talent
who's involved here. And if you go to like Wikipedia
and go to the cast, it's incredible just because
of how expansive Wikipedia is. Yeah. How many
actors don't have Wikipedia articles? That's
true. There's not a lot of blue links. yeah and
but i'll say this like kate mara rooney mara
as y 'all mentioned and then i'll say this the
writer i didn't know why i recognized his name
but i clicked on him and his name or one of the
two writers michael um doherty yes He wrote a
lot of the Godzilla movies, like the recent ones
that have come out. So that's why I recognize
it. But he also wrote X2. X2. Before this movie.
X -Men movie. He wrote X2 before. I was like,
oh man, he probably got his start. He wrote X2.
So my thing is, I wonder if he wrote this script.
he i wonder if he wrote the script as like a
spec script before he got x2 and then it got
produced like after x2 came out like that is
sometimes what happens but superman returns yeah
he did superman he was doing like big budget
movies i like the king of monsters by the way
i don't understand the hate for it i like godzilla
versus kong better i just thought it was just
silly and goofy and i loved it that millie bobby
brown's character got slapped in the face by
a stupid stick which made that versus kong really
distracting yeah that's true too um king of the
monsters to me just looked awful like but they
all don't look great but the climax for king
of the monsters really bothered me because it's
like in the dark and it's just like um when they're
in boston and yeah yeah right i wasn't a huge
fan of it um but um yeah anyway this dude had
like look these aren't oscar winners no we're
talking about but they're big budget movies and
they're trusting him to write these franchise
films and it's just like oh my god where the
hell did urban legends i don't like x2 x2 is
x2 i think that's probably my favorite x -men
yeah right i think it's it's either that or first
class and yeah oh yeah first class 2003 when
did spider -man 2 come out that's 2004 okay so
like yeah before spider -man 2 came out x2 was
like the good super oh 100 yeah 100 is pretty
good i haven't seen that movie in a long ass
time but i remember x yeah yeah oh yeah the first
two x -men i thought were really good yeah one
three yeah he did write apocalypse too so apocalypse
is not bad days no but he got he got the bag
and he did in the godzilla movies look the the
uh basically the threshold for shitty writing
versus just i want to see monsters fight each
other you know like he's in a good spot you could
just write godzilla fights king ghidorah in your
set you know what i mean i'm really excited for
the new empire i think that'll be a fun movie
i'm excited yeah i love my giant thing punching
giant thing yeah yeah those are easy movies So
back to Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary. So three of
the, two of the three footballers plus girlfriend
are dead. We've got Buck left. He's the last
man standing and he's pretty pissed because,
you know, his girlfriend's dead. His two best
friends are dead. He's pretty, he's direct to
that anger towards Sam. Sam's like, something's
afoot. brother david believe in me and this is
the point in the movie where david just goes
from being like you're kind of likable to being
fucking annoying because he's like shut up sam
they're just dying like well they're twins too
like you know what i called him huh I dubbed
him a pube. Yeah, Jill was like literally like
while they're like having their big scene of
like, no, Sam, I think you're being ridiculous.
There's no way something else is at play here.
And Jill's like, quit being a pube. And I'm like,
well, what? What's a pube? Break that down for
me, Jill. Yes. It's the character that up until
this moment has been like. on your side or on
the side of the audience so the audience can
get on board with them and then the movie just
takes a left turn in the writing and they go
from kind of being with the main character and
supporting them just being an idiot where they're
like no no no you're crazy it's common sense
it's not a supernatural specter they're just
dying yeah he's like don't be a pube is the next
t -shirt that we're doing should it just be a
single curly q yeah i think the p will be like
a curly p oh god that's good that's good yeah
right yeah it's like Why are you not supporting
your sister? I can do an opposite with the B.
It's the vibes of when you're talking with a
friend and then they're like, oh, just to play
devil's advocate. What if all you're saying is
bullshit? And I think you're dumb. And it's like,
all right, dude. Come on. Hence, a pube. Sorry.
I'm sorry. Sorry to interrupt. The dog just pushed
the door open. Where the fuck did you come from?
Get out of here. No, stop it. Get out of here.
Say hi to me. Don't be a dick. I don't know if
you can see him through the screen. Oh, I saw
him for a little bit. Good boy. It's been too
long since I've seen Addo. I'll happily show
you him, but this is not for the podcast. Don't
do it. All right. Sorry. Hold up. Let me block
him. Happy to have an Addo sighting. So her brother's
not supporting her. Buck has left. This is about
the time that they start to investigate what
Heather gave Sam. And it's a couple of notes
from an unknown address. It's like, we know what's
going on. This isn't the first time that this
has happened before. And that has been hinted
throughout the movie. This is not the first time
that girls were abducted and then guys died.
So the brother reluctantly helps Sam. David reluctantly
helps Sam. And they start to kind of investigate,
and they figure out that in 1969, three girls
got abducted, two were found, one was never found.
And they kind of put two and two together, that
whatever is happening is connected to this. We
find out through context clues. Wait, Grace even
says... We haven't met Grace yet. Oh, sorry,
I was dealing with the dog. We're going to meet
Grace shortly. Let's do it. So they put two and
together that the football team, there's connections
there, and they decide to track down to the one
remaining witness, Grace Taylor, the best character
in this movie. By far. By far. They track her
down to her house, pull up, there's a hippy -dippy
love machine right in the driveway, like a BMW
bus. She tells you everything you need to know
about this character, Grace. they knock on the
door he's the brother goes to knock on the door
she abruptly opens it he sees his fist and she's
like black power groovy and then they start to
talk to her and she immediately shuts the door
so like david knocks again and goes like black
power and she's like all right come on in you
kids and into the the hippie dippy time warp
apartment home they go david is fucking racist
as shit let's just call it what it is yeah It's
not hip. Let's put it that way. So they go inside.
They see hints of weed throughout, and David
makes kind of jokes about it. Sam kind of goes
off and follows Grace. David goes off to another
room and finds, like, creepy paintings. And it's
not clear what we're totally looking at, but
you know that they're going to come back around,
including a couple horrific shots of a dog. Sorry,
animal violence forthcoming. And you're making
a face. You don't remember that? No, I do remember
that. No, it's my notes about, because I don't
know if you know this or not from The Silence.
I don't know if you heard that episode yet. There
was another dog that died in it. Oh. And literally,
I had a note about the fact that there's two
dead dogs in the last two movies that I've watched.
You monsters. because it's kind of a it's a it's
a cheap it's a cheap trick to get people upset
yeah exactly like kind of like shorthand of like
let's kill the animal no it doesn't work no stop
it it doesn't work because i'm just i'm sitting
here going the last two bad movies that i've
watched they've both killed an animal try to
make me feel bad and yes i do feel bad for the
animal but i don't feel bad in the fact that
I like your movie now. No. Right, right, right.
I'm not more engaged. It works not because it
made me like the movie more. It works just because
like, oh, I'm annoyed that they killed the animal.
Yeah. So. David sees these. He comes out of the
room. They sit down. Grace kind of reveals what
she knows. She survived the 1969 thing. They
didn't accuse any of the jocks. She won't even
say who they were. But my God, she wishes she
could find Mary and put her to rest because her
friend Mary was great. And, you know, maybe there's
something that gave me. She also said something
that this is why it was predictable since the
beginning. Okay. Children always suffer the sins
of their parents. Yeah. That kind of tells you
everything you need to know about the movie.
Exactly. But I want to address this at this point
because this is how I figured out that everything
is who it is and everything like that. Yeah.
So I guess to set up, as I said earlier, the
jocks, the football team is kind of connected
to the Mary thing. And as Grace hints, the sins
of the parents will become the sins of the children.
um and we know that like roger dalton tom their
parent their dads were two of the three football
people there in 1969 they put that together but
they can't figure out who the other person is
so grace will not say who it is but she gives
them a cryptic hint of like school you know if
you look at photographs of that night you'll
find out who it was while this scene is happening
buck Has left town. He's taken his dog. He's
getting out of Dodge. He knows something's afoot.
So he goes to a motel. Gets a room. Spends the
night. And as you do when you're 18 years old.
You get a bottle of hard liquor. And you want
some corn. Thank God you guys are all on the
same page with me. I go, this is supposed to
be high school kids. How do they get alcohol?
Yeah, I don't know. He must have got a good fake.
I don't know. Although he does look dirty. So,
you know, fair enough. Yeah, you're right. Oh,
wow. You're right. That's a good point. One of
the harshest liquor states in the world, in the
country. Yeah. I just thought in general, like
going with Illinois raised background. like they
for the record they're not like pretending utah
it's not utah the state the the local newspaper
is like the salt lake yeah it's supposed to be
salt lake yeah well so yeah so he's drinking
a 40 and he's just casually watching cable porn
uh in the motel 40 just so we're clear it's not
even a 40 it's a bottle of whiskey Is it a bottle
of whiskey? It's a bottle of whiskey. No, he
even says it's a bottle of whiskey. Oh, wow.
Word. Okay. It looked like to me, like a, like
a bottle of old English with a label ripped off
or something, but no, it's a bottle of whiskey.
Damn. Okay. Well then there you go. So a bottle
of whiskey watching cable porn that obviously
he's not subscribed to because it's like, you
know, it's the classic, like, you know, you can
only hear the audio and it's all. So yeah. And
he's not like, he's just watching it. You know
what I mean? Like he's just hanging out and like,
that's some sociopathic shit. Like you're just
hanging out and just. All his dog licks his hand.
Yes, his dog licks his hand. That's so fucking
weird. Anyways. He gets up. He decides to go
get a snack earlier in the movie while Sam and
her friends at the slumber party were having
a good time. Talking about urban legends. One
of them was that a dude got his hand stuck in
a vending machine and then the vending machine
crushed him. So they kind of set that up for
Buck. He goes to the vending machine. He can't
get his chips. So he sticks his hand in the vending
machine. Starts to shake. He rips his arm out.
It falls to the ground. He gets free chips. Hooray.
Goes back to his room and his staticky porn.
Resume having his fingers licked by his dog.
He falls asleep. He wakes up. Porn is still going,
but the dog's not there. No, but the dog was
still licking his hand. When he went to sleep.
No, no, no. Oh, yeah. Something's licking his
hand, but it's not the dog. Yeah. It's just like
slurping sounds is what the closed captions described
it as. So he gets up, looks around, calls for
his dog, can't find it, smells something really
rancid, opens the closet, and his poor dog, who
did nothing wrong, has been killed. And it says
on the wall even, like, dogs aren't the only
ones that can lick your hand. Or like, yeah.
It's gross. It's gross. He falls to the ground
in horror and the TV goes staticky and now we
get the ring rip off. Yes. She comes through
the TV. Bloody Mary climbs through the TV while
also simultaneously grabbing his ankles from
under the bed. No? No. She was just under the
bed. She was just under the bed. But there's
some jump scares with the TV. So Bloody Mary's
calling card is this 1950s -esque song that plays.
So maybe the TV played that. You're right. Yeah,
it was just a song. The song starts playing that
through the TV. Through the TV. Okay, got it.
I got my thing. Yeah, yeah. And I'll give you
the ring ripoff. Yes, okay, fine. But she didn't
come from the TV. You're right. Yeah, she didn't
come from the TV. Okay. Sorry. She came from
under the bed. My brain is struggling to put
together the kills here. Yeah, she came from
under the bed. So we go from the ring to the
grudge ripoff then. Yeah. probably yeah exactly
because this movie has been nothing but ripoffs
so that's the end of buck the football team is
dead whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa we gotta address
this stop it so she crawls from under the bed
she breaks his whiskey bottle and stabs him repeatedly
right That's how I found out it was glass because
I thought it was plastic. We need to address
how he died because she stabbed him repeatedly.
It's probably the goriest bit of the movie actually.
That's the reason why I need to address it is
because this is the goriest part of the movie.
This might be the reason it's rated R. Probably
not because it's not that bad. It's a thing that
I feel like if they sent it over and they could
just cut it so that it doesn't show. the stabbing
of the face and they would have gotten their
pg -13 rating but yeah exactly they cared exactly
yeah this was the part where they were like okay
yes this is we need to make this bloody yeah
so buck dies sam and her and david are like we
need to figure out who the third person is because
or like who the like buck's dead They find this
out, but Sam still feels like something's going
on with Mary. She has a sequence where she's
sitting at her desk in her bedroom, and she has
this comedically large chest just to her side,
and it starts to shake, and she gets to see into
what happened to Mary. Turns out she didn't die
when she hit her head. She just went into a light
coma where her heart stopped, and she died. But
then she got better. She wakes up. she got better
she got better she wakes up in the chest that
her uh douchebag rapist would be rapist uh date
put her in and she is trapped inside this locked
chest and that's how she really dies i want to
know if mitchell can guess the end well we need
to find out some find some things out okay so
can we lay this out in terms of the only reason
why i was able to protect detective pikachu Yes.
Uh -oh. Oh, he froze! Oh, no! He pulled his router
and he dipped. Wow. What a thing to be frozen
on. Damn. This is the part. And I love his face
in this thing right now. You should take a screenshot
of that. Yep, I am. Oh, I am. He was ready to
kind of give us the lowdown. I bet he's just...
Giving us the whole plot right now. Oh, I can't
take a screenshot because it includes your last
name, Jill. Oh, sorry. No, you're fine. Did I
hide my thing? Nope. Rename. Wait, hold up. Okay,
I'm just going to make it Jill. Oh, he disappeared.
No, it doesn't matter. He lost Wi -Fi. He lost
Wi -Fi. Well, he might join back up. I don't
know. We'll see. I hope so. I hope so, too. yeah
he already stayed longer than he said he could
so i'm optimistic well i just texted him i was
like hey do you need to go like and did he say
anything he didn't text me back okay so we'll
see what happens i'm happy to talk with you guys
as long as possible like i said i just upgraded
it because i'm like i'm done with these multiple
zoom calls yeah i gotcha i agree yeah i appreciate
it As long as we're willing to do this at least
once a month, I'm like, okay, this is worth it.
I think that's possible with planning. Well,
now, so I'm going to send you like I did this
week, my entire month when I know my month. And
just go, here's my November. Boom, boom, boom.
Great. Mitchell just said standby. Standby. He
said Bloody Mary took out my internet LOL standby.
That's hilarious. That's funny. Bloody Mary knows.
Bloody Mary's got us. We've said Bloody Mary
at least more than three times. We haven't said
it three consecutive times. I don't know. I think
I have. I think I have. You didn't say it in
the playful way that Kate Morris' character says
it. You haven't drugged anybody with Rohypnol
as far as my knowledge. You're probably in the
clear, buddy. For this movie, yes. For every
other thing, do you want me to say it three times?
Perhaps. Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary. See, it's
not going to work because you're not saying it
into a mirror. Bloody Mary! Why does it say Beetlejuice,
Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice? Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice,
Beetlejuice. Developers, developers, developers,
developers. Does my Beetlejuice get cancelled
out by your Beetlejuice? Because you said it
three times and I said it three times. Maybe.
Nobody's around me. The dog's asleep outside
the door now that I've blocked him. Sophie is
not near me either. The dog is literally sideways,
boy, outside the door now that I've blocked him
out. I will be right back. Okay. Do your thing.
I already had to pee, so I get it. I know. Yeah.
Well, we've been imbibing pretty well ourselves.
There might be some parts I need to cut. About?
Well, just length. Oh, sure. Sorry. Yeah. I mean,
we're going through it, man. We're getting through
this. We're going through it. That's fine. This
dang movie. Let's face it. I'm a lazy editor.
So this probably might still be an hour and a
half or whatever it is. I feel it. I feel it.
You know. Do you have work tomorrow? Technically,
yes. 1030. AM? Yeah. Okay. So you can sleep in
a little bit. I've got Paul Feinbaum show. Paul
Feinbaum. How's Paul Feinbaum doing? Yeah. He's
the finest of bombs. Sure. Of course. Always
is. Always will be. I feel about Pat McAfee on
the fucking college game day stuff. Literally,
I haven't watched game day in forever. Yeah?
Okay. I wasn't sure. And then when I see Paul
Feinbaum's show, I always laugh at the same thing
because his hashtag is PMS live. Yeah. Hell yeah.
I haven't actually listened to him. I've seen
him on things. I haven't actually heard his voice
in forever. I gotcha. He said stand by. We're
standing by. Very stood by. I do technically
have work tomorrow. How are you guys doing? What
do you need to do? What time do you need out?
No, we're fine on that. It's more of a just energy.
I have work tomorrow, but it's not a big deal.
Well, that's what we were just saying. I have
work tomorrow. I have to be at work at 1030.
Oh, I have to be at work at 8. Yeah, well, my
1030. I'm saying that as like, oh, I have to
be at work at 1030. I'm fine. Besides, yesterday
sucked. Yeah, because you said you passed out,
right? Oh, that was Friday night. So I was supposed
to watch this movie Friday night. Sorry, I also
have like a cut on my eyelid. That's insane.
It's not good. It's literally like that big.
But because it's on my eyelid, it drives me insane.
Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, exactly. um so friday
night i was supposed to watch this movie uh my
gp joe and my 880 um adam invited me out joe
long story short to give you the spiel of what's
happening his wife suggested they go to marriage
counseling okay when he finally agreed to go
to marriage counseling They also have a two -year
-old, by the way. Okay. Yep. She cheated on him.
Oh, no. And he found that out in marriage counseling?
No. He found that out before marriage counseling.
But then they went to marriage counseling to
try to figure it out. And versus what she tells
him outside of marriage counseling is, oh, we
should try to work this out. We should try to
work this out. When they get to marriage counseling,
she's just like. Oh, you don't respect me like
this. You don't do this. You don't do that. You
yell at me constantly and everything like that.
And what his situation is, is she's also held
the fact that if she were to get divorced, she
would file for custody of their kid. Oh, boy.
Okay. Yeah, it's a long, complicated thing. to
the fact that on Friday we were talking about
it a lot, and it was like, hey, I visited Claire
after work and was like, I just need to see you.
Right. I just need to. It's a lot of, yeah, for
sure. Hi, buddy. Hello. Welcome back. Uh -oh.
You're mute. Yeah, you're mute. You're mute.
Mute, mute, mute. Is that better? Yeah. Yeah,
we hear you now. Okay. Good. My internet went
out, and I don't know why. That's pretty exciting.
Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary. Okay, can I predict
the ending was the question that I was served,
right? We're very excited to hear your answer.
Okay, so set me up here. Basically, tee me up
for what has just happened, and then let me see
how I think the movie will be resolved. Okay.
So, Buck has died. Siblings Sam and David know
that there's still some unanswered connections
to the 1969 bloody married murder. as we now
know. Right. But they don't know everything about
who was there that night, because like I said,
Grace is not giving any names. So they decide
to split up. Sam goes to Grace's place. David
goes to the archives. Oh, no, no, no, no, no,
no. Let's just let's just call it what it is
at this point. Let's at this point, this is the
spot where I said I know who did it. Yeah, we're
trying to figure out who who actually who is
the guy that Mary was with that night. That's
the question. That's the question. Okay, that's
who we're trying to... Okay, that's the part
of the ending we want to figure out. Who killed
Mary? Buck, Tom, Roger, and Heather have died.
They all had some sort of connections to the
1969 murders, mostly their parents. Also at this
point, get a... Go ahead. Oh, wait. If you know
it, go ahead. Go for it, man. I don't know how,
but I think the stepdad... is somehow involved,
either the stepdad himself or the stepdad's parents
because of the time jump. I'm not entirely sure.
But I feel like you guys brought him up. He's
running for mayor. But he just hasn't been mentioned
since then. So I think there is some kind of
payoff there. And Kate Mara survives. That's
all I got. Well, we'll let you know. Is that
pretty good? I don't know if you're right. Are
we just going to go through it now? Did we leave
him in suspense? Yeah, we're leaving him in suspense.
Okay, word. Alright, I like that. Don't look
at the Wikipedia summary, Mitchell. I'm not.
But I think the stepdad is involved somehow.
Kate Mara survives. Kate Mara survives. Kate
Mara survives. Rooney probably died in the background.
Rooney didn't matter. Rooney's a footnote in
any of this. I don't think she had any speaking
lines, frankly. She was classmate number three.
So David goes to the archives. He finds out the
information, but they don't reveal it to the
viewer. He goes home. He tries calling Sam. The
phone doesn't work. Then the phone rings. And
I'm like, oh, is this a I know what you did last
summer or scream ripoff moment now? So he goes
to pick up the phone. And before we can determine
if anyone is there, a Ziploc bag is thrown over
David's head. He's taken down for the count.
So, oh, no, somebody's on to them. yeah it's
a it's a it's a man in a like a hooded jacket
like yeah baseball cap hooded jacket it actually
looks like i know what you did last summer right
that's why i said it was a ripoff if i know you
did what yeah yes yes yes this is this definitely
that yeah um so kate mara uh goes with grace
to the high school she leaves a message because
they've kind of put it all to like she's starting
to figure it out They get to the high school.
Grace is like, I'm not going in there. Let me
light up my giant bong. And proceeds to get very
high. Giant bong. Giant bong. Big bong. Kate
Mara like, oh, I see somebody inside. I'm sorry,
Sam, not Kate Mara. Sam sees somebody inside.
She's like, David, let me in. Let me in. Obviously
not David. So she climbs through an open window,
having learned her lesson from Heather's death
that sometimes the best action is to actually
do something. So she breaks into the high school
and at this point, because of her hauntings with
Mary or her connection, she knows where Mary
is buried. Although, like I said, they're still
figuring out who was the guy that she was with.
So she goes to the still under construction cordoned
off personnel only section of the high school.
It looks exactly the same as it did 35 years
ago. No one has been in there. 30 years, not
35. 30 years, even though it's technically 35.
It hasn't been touched since 1969 or 1974. Perfectly
intact. She finds the trunk. She opens the trunk,
and there's Mary's body, perfectly mummified
with hair. Yeah, she has a perfect head of hair.
Another skeleton lawn decoration with a wig glued
on. Yep. So she picks up her bones. Yeah, and
then she trips. This is where Andre lost it.
This is amazing. So she picks up her bones, and
then I think the hooded figure shows up and,
like, starts chasing her, and she trips, falls
over, and then she hurriedly, like, tries to
pick, like, you know, bones are all over the
place. She, like, hurriedly has to be like, oh,
gosh, and, like, picks up her rib cage and, like,
tries to dash out, like, it's like a fucking
thing. And stashes it into the blanket. She trips
over her mop bucket. No, she trips over a mop
bucket. The mop bucket. Okay, yes. And that's
exactly what happens. And I had a note, too,
like, oh, just toss her bones anywhere. It's
fine. It's fine. She'll be fine. Yeah, exactly.
So it's no longer an intact skeleton. She gets
outside. and she can't wake up grace it's not
even clear if grace is alive anymore she's just
that zonked on the devil's lettuce yeah we just
assumed she's dead passed out in the van and
what was annoying was that like she's like carrying
the body drops it again picks it up she's like
grace grace grace opens the back door puts the
body in the thing grace grace closes the door
goes around to the other side of the van opens
the door grace grace and it's like 30 admitted
in 30 seconds of her just shouting grace And
then she realizes, like, either Grace is dead
or unconscious. We don't know. But they have
to get to the cemetery. And the hooded figure
is chasing them. We get to the cemetery. Whoa,
whoa, whoa. She also talks to somebody on the
phone. Yeah, she calls David again. And they
pick up. But it's not David. It's Bill, the stepfather.
Yeah, she calls her dad out of desperation. It's
just like... No, the stepfather is just like,
what's going on? What's happening? And she's
like, I'm headed to the cemetery. I found Mary's
body. I need to make this Mary Banner's body.
I need to make this stop. I need to bury her.
I'm going to this the cemetery. And he's like,
did you tell your mother? And she's like, no,
I didn't tell my mother. And then he goes like,
I'll tell her we'll meet you there. Yeah. So
her dad is now showing her stepdad showing up.
They get to the cemetery. She carries the body.
She finds the grave. Dad shows up. He's like,
here, I'll take that shovel. And the whole time
I'm thinking, how is she going to bury this body?
The ground is frozen because this entire movie,
it's been winter. The entire time. Snow, snow
on the ground. It's not Christmas, but it's also
not like New England autumn either. There is
snow on the ground. And it's Utah. Yeah, it's
Utah. Dad starts digging in the grave, and I
guess his stepdad starts digging in the grave,
and I guess because he's a man and bigger, he
can, like, get through the frozen ground. And
he brings up, like, you didn't tell your mom
about this, right? And at this point, if you
haven't figured it out, Dad was the one who accidentally
shoved Mary to her death and locked her in a
shop. You got it! Let's go! Got it again. And
he, you know, she's like, no, I didn't talk to
anybody. And then he swings the shovel at her
and knocks her down. Knocks her the fuck out.
Yeah. Well, no, she falls down. She gets back
up. And he's like, you know, you should have
just left it while alone. I'm like, yeah, she
should have just buried the body. And then it
wouldn't be anybody's problem. Because she buried
the goddamn fucking body. She shouldn't have
said anything. And also, he knocked her the fuck
out. It's ridiculous. He hit her in the face
with a shovel. Yeah. And she's like, ugh. I'm
fine still, but... Yep. He says, as I said, he
should have left well enough alone. You shouldn't
have told anyone. Your brother wouldn't be dead.
And I'm like, wait, David's dead? He killed David?
Yep. David's dead. Yeah, he suffocated him. Yeah.
We never actually got... It was very... It could
have gone either way. We saw him suffocating
with the bag, but it... He dragged the body off
the scene. I thought he was going to show up
at this point. I thought so. He was going to
show up too, but like I said, I was like, oh
no, he's just dead. That was it. He died. He's
gone. So there's a chase sequence through the
cemetery. Grace shows back up again, but dad
like shoves her down. She knocks out, gets knocked
out. And then he captures Sam, drags, like knocks
her down again, drags her to the grave. Cause
he's going to bury her with Mary's body. Mind
you, this is Tubi. So I get a commercial break
right at this point. Oh yeah, me too. Yep. um
he i can't recall exactly how but stuff comes
in like the way that it's all going down with
like the bear like digging the grave she had
they have the bones i think either some dirt
falls on mary's bones or he puts mary's bones
in the grave and that's how her spirit is kind
of event he puts the bones in the grave Because
he's like, this is the perfect plan. If I bury
Mary's bones, nobody will suspect anything. Well,
yeah, with her. Yeah. But like, nobody will suspect
anything because they already think she's gone.
They're not going to dig up her grave because
they already think she's gone. So he puts her
bones in the grave. And then. Yeah. The car radio,
which is nowhere near. any of this starts to
play the song that has followed all of mary's
victims and out sashays mary looking fresh as
a rose like the day she died and bill who's supposed
to be in his late 50s early 60s sees her somewhat
seduced yet horrified mary slow dances with him
leans in for a kiss pulls out and she looks like
reagan from the exorcist and drags his ass to
hell with pestilence with pestilence by breathing
in his face it was like this weird cgi like bug
belches yeah yeah it was it was it was definitely
like a bug belch you know yeah yeah and that's
how he gets dragged to hell why the bugs came
into play there but yeah right i would have figured
blood i figured i would have drowned him in blood
I would have gone with, but that's okay. I don't
know. The morning sun rises off the distance
and the paramedics are there and they're saying
Bill died of a heart attack. So he didn't really
get dragged to hell. And Sam's there putting
her hat on. Her head is bloodied. Grace shows
up and they're like, it's over. Oh, this is my
favorite part. No, no. This is my favorite part
because Grace literally looks at her and it's
just like, are you going to be okay? And she's
like, yeah. And I'm sitting there going, the
fuck I am. No, I saw a fucking ghost. A fucking
ghost killed my stepfather. Your stepdad tried
to kill you, and then a ghost killed your stepdad.
And your brother. He also killed your brother.
And your brother, yes. Yeah, no confirmation
that David's actually dead, but stepdad said
it, so I guess it's true. Okay, so my question
is, having seen the first Urban Legends, and
I haven't seen the sequel, I remember the first
one being, like, kids got murdered, and they
were, like, modeled after whatever. Urban legends.
Spooky. Urban legends. They address that in the
film, even. They're just like, oh, yeah, this
was just a college professor that was killing
people off of urban legends. And, like, for a
while, David kind of, instead of, like, Bloody
Mary, he's like, no, it's a serial killer. It
has to be this guy, copycat, whatever. but in
the movie it ends up being an actual ghost or
vengeful spirit yes like right like mary at least
half okay mary is a ghost mary is a ghost and
and they they know sell it like they yeah she
killed those people you know what i mean it's
not there's no curtain rug a pulling like actually
the tanning salon guy like got killed that's
what that's what my question is too because i
also want to know this is because there was this
guy who was trying to kill everybody and cover
his trail do we think it was just mary or do
we think some of them were this bill uh well
if they did that they they played it way too
subtly uh yeah right right no no i think it's
all bill because the way they like so like you
think it's all bill what you think it's all no
no no no no it's not it's all mary sorry yeah
you know it's not so the reason we know it's
not bill is because they set him up as like being
the dressed like the i know what you did last
summer killer yeah um He definitely killed David
and tried to kill Sam. He killed David and tried
to kill Sam. He says, I killed David. David had
to die and now you do too, basically. I agree.
I think that it was all Mary besides that. Part
of it, too, was just kind of like, huh, maybe?
I frankly think that's giving this movie way
too much credit. Especially the spider murder.
Maybe I'm trying to be smarter than this movie.
I don't think that they made it pretty. clear
i guess that like you know like she shows up
for a flash when the guy gets his dick blown
off you know yeah right yeah she comes up one
of the bed it's like yeah i'm just confused so
like i appreciate that mary never kind of goes
after sam because like you know your sister's
in trauma but like she tried to help her yeah
yeah i agree yeah in a weird way um yeah well
just tell me come on girl it's weird so that's
what urban legends bloody mary yeah i will say
like we didn't really touch on this like it wraps
up in like 30 seconds like yes like the reveal
like i would say that like by the time the stepdad
is revealed as the killer you're probably about
like maybe three minutes away from the credits
i actually think yeah that's about right it doesn't
wrap up in 30 seconds wraps up in three minutes
because it just didn't want to end not it was
pretty much just like oh he's the killer he knocked
you out he's chasing after you Very abbreviated
fight. We spent longer talking about the fight
than the fight actually happened, for sure. And
then, next scene, Kate Mara is on the, you know,
on an ambulance bench outside. Wow, that was
wild. Are you going to be okay? Yeah, I'll be
okay. Credits. You know, that's it. No, my fucking
stab dad tried to kill me. Yeah. Yeah. My brother
is dead. My twin brother is dead. Yeah, right,
right, right. Yeah, twin brother's gone. Literally,
I love that in movies where it's just like, are
you going to be okay? Fuck I am. The fuck I am.
The fuck I am gonna be okay. I realize that in
a way I'm asking for more of this movie and I
don't want it to be interpreted that way. Yeah,
they want Bloody Mary 2 which is gonna be another
urban legend about some girl from 40 years in
the past but really 45 years in the past. Yeah,
I mean I think that says it all about this movie.
They didn't care to do the math. to actually
like make sure it made sense so you get what
you don't pay for yeah and it's like i don't
know i'm trying to look at it from the appeal
of a horror movie and it's like so it's not scary
no it's it's it is funny sometimes like i fucking
laughed out loud the bones so that i think this
movie succeeds at being a fun bad movie to watch
not sober you know what i mean i laughed at the
guy pissing on the fence and it was just like
really right really we're gonna blow his dick
off like really he even like andre said it he
looks at the size like and then he knows continues
to pee on it he knows and he was the guy no he
was the guy that show don't tell amazing just
like two people died and he was probably the
most like paid attention to that shit and goes
oh i'm not gonna die from this crazy shit and
then he sees a sign that says high voltage piss
yeah Yeah. I would have liked if Sam's friends
actually supported her and were kind of in on
it because killing off the brother just is like,
okay, well, what did this really add to the story
other than, well, my brother's dead and we're
not really going to address this. Your brother
was right about not trusting your stepdad. That's
what we learned. That's why he's a pube. Yeah.
Very, very pube behavior for sure. Should have
been down to help her. wasn't and uh yeah yeah
all right ratings um i'm gonna okay can i just
jump in i guess i was the first introduced right
you're good i given this one i'm giving this
one uh a 0 .62 um fuck what six two yeah zero
yeah zero six two no but it's 0 .62 yeah Zero
point. Too low? Fine. We'll just write it down
to a half star. I'm giving it a half. I'm giving
it a one half. Oh, man. I should have my metric
ready to go. Should have rehypnol pills out of
ten. Or out of five, rather. Sorry. There you
go. Rehypnol powder. Powder. Whatever. Powder.
Rams. I don't know. Jill, what do you got? I'll
rank it a little higher. I'll give it like a
one and a half star. Wow. That is high. It sounds
entertaining. I'm not going to lie. It was stupid,
but the depths are just so... Why? Why? But in
the fun way. I had fun watching it, but I think,
honestly, a lot of it is due to... I didn't pay
to watch it. This isn't me being cheesy. I had
fun watching it with you, Jill. You know what
I mean? that's it like and that's a lot of what
the the yeah i had fun watching it with you so
that's i'll give you know it's really a 0 .5
but you know half a point then for watching with
andre and then another half a point for me coining
the phrase you know the phrase you're being approved
yeah so okay fair enough yeah i feel like that
score is justified then wow okay i mean out of
five like 1 .5 out of five this is this isn't
even close to the worst movie i've watched for
this podcast not even close yeah this isn't even
the worst movie i'm gonna watch in a week next
week i think me and my friends are either gonna
watch the covenant or if you were a cartoon network
kid scary godmother's stupid cgi halloween fest
okay the covenant is a better movie than this
is it Yes. Is it? Yes. I mean, it's got Rob Zombie.
Are you ready? Are you ready for my rating? Yeah,
give your rating, Mike. I'm sorry. I gave The
Silence a 0 .5 out of 5. The Mitchell 0 out of
5. And I was thinking to myself, oh, this is
really just a 0 .5 out of 5. And then I realized
I hated this more than The Silence. So this is
a fucking 0. Damn. It's a fucking zero locked
cases out of five. Okay. All right. Word. I didn't
even get my out of 1 .5 out of X. Oh, it was
terrible. It was so bad. Like, the CGI is terrible.
The story, terrible. I predicted it from the
halfway point. Like, the only thing that was
decent and decent, I say, is because of Kate
Mara trying. I did not think she tried. Oh, I
think she tried. Because the script, everybody
else in this movie didn't fucking try. I mean,
her bad acting is part of the charm. Yeah, right.
That's what I'm saying, though. Was it not trying
or was it just bad acting? right it's so early
you're right that's true and that's a good point
because because like it's not fair to compare
no that to like house of cards right which is
many years later yeah he had a bad script obviously
terrible script yeah yeah yeah oh yeah this movie
is bad but i also was like well and also she's
lifting it up at all and also seeing the the
cast ed marinaro i'm seeing that going yeah he's
the fucking murderer yeah right sure Yeah, I
mean, that can happen. That can I think the coach
of Blue Mountain State is going to be the murder.
I think it's more like and this is like when
I watch what I feel like the appeal of these
movies. And frankly, I don't really watch many
of the good ones on my free time. I feel like
when I watch these movies, like if it's like
a kill spree, you know, like I kind of want to
like I want to hate the characters that are being
murdered enough that that it's kind of fun. You
know what I mean? When like, oh, man, this guy
got what he does. You know what I mean? Oh, Tom
got what he deserves. Pissing on the fence. Well,
sure. And so did Roger. You know what I mean?
Not Buck's dog, but Buck did too. Buck's dog
didn't deserve any of that. Heather didn't deserve
that. And I know Cabin in the Woods is like an
inverse on this, but Cabin in the Woods plays
those tropes very well where you have a lot of
time with these characters, learn through all
their tropes, and you get invested in their stories
enough to where when they get killed, it's a
heartbreaker. What's up? cabin in the woods is
a terrible representation of this because every
trope fell to those tropes yeah for sure but
even then when they wrote those to be tropey
i'm saying that they were even still like those
characters yes they were tropey but it was like
oh man like it was so in the case of cabin in
the woods with what you're saying they like they're
not those tropes until they get to the cabin
because of interference from the people who are
kind of pulling the strings like the fact that
chris hemworth is like the hot jock but he's
not an idiot he's actually very smart um stuff
like that and then machinations i would say that
if you're looking in the market for like i'm
hanging out with my friends we don't want to
watch something scary horror i want fun horror
see that you can find better movies out there
um well and that's what i say about watch urban
legend Like watch the original urban legend.
Is that what this was? Is that basically what
that was going for, but way better? Like, what
do you think Mitchell? Yeah. I mean, look, having
not seen the movie here, like I feel like almost,
and I'm not sure if this was brought up between
y 'all before. I almost feel like this movie
was written completely separate from urban legends.
Yes. Yeah. when yeah when someone saw the script
they're like cool we'll produce it and then slap
the urban legends thing on there so when we put
this in stores people are like oh it's a sequel
may as well buy it especially when they go to
grace's and they talk about the fact that this
urban legend thing was a professor serial killing
people based on urban legends that's when i was
like Oh, cool. They just wanted to tie it to...
That's their one throwaway line. It's literally
one line that's thrown away. It doesn't end.
It reminds me of how the most recent Cloverfield
movie that came out a couple years ago on Netflix.
That was not a Cloverfield movie initially. They
just made it one to give it some juice. That
reminds me of American Psycho 2 where it was
a completely different script. about that one
they did it with last house on the left too as
well yeah um so american psycho 2 for sure yeah
well american psycho 2 stars mila kunis and literally
like halfway through the production they're like
oh this kind of sounds a little bit like american
psycho we'll make her the daughter of norman
bateman that's where that i've never seen that
but sure yes yeah I wanted to include it in our
five horror bad movies, and I decided against
it because a lot of people kind of in the bad
movie community know that. So I wanted to do
something different. Find something a little
more... I think there's a lot of better movies
out there if you want a stupid bad horror movie
like Leprechaun 2. Any of the later Nightmare
on Elm Street 4 and onward are pretty, are in
that market. Freddy vs. Jason, Jason X. Get ready
for our next bad movie. I'm excited. If you don't
like horror movies, but you want to watch something
for free with your friends, with alcohol, if
you're of legal drinking age, that is not scary,
but it's low -hanging fruit. Bloody Mary is your
made -for -TV movie. Because it's on Tubi, I
would rather watch Urban Legend or Urban Legend
Final Cut, which is both on Tubi. Both are on
Tubi. I don't know. Looking at the poster for
it, you get what's on the tin. Yeah, I agree.
There's a better supernatural episode out there
of this movie than the movie itself. Just put
the Winchesters on it. The last bad movie I watched
was The Silence. Yes. Which starred Stanley Tucci.
The Tucci. The Tucci. It got me to a question.
That nobody else could answer. And so I kind
of wanted to. Bring it up to you guys. Okay.
Actors currently living. Top five. That you would
have a drink with. That you would have. I would
have a drink with. Yes. Have a drink with. Currently
living. Because the tooch. Was like my number
five. I feel like we'd have a nice. yeah we'd
have a nice glass of pinot we'd discuss some
things that like okay yeah i would talk to you
about this um and it it brought it up to me last
episode but of course because i was by myself
i was like i don't want to just ask this to the
random people sure sure So I want to ask it to
you guys. And this will be pretty preformed because
I feel like I have to come up with it as I go.
But I just know that one person that's definitely...
I tried to give you a heads up. I know. I was
trying to cod, man. I don't have five, but I
have a couple answers. Yeah, I know one of them
immediately is Jack Black. Like, period. Jack
Black was my number one. Yeah, like he's my number
one. He's my number one. I think he's a lot of
people's number ones, right? Yeah. Yeah, he's
it. Yeah. The two is my number five. Who is?
Oh, 2 is just number 5. Jack Black. I put Jennifer
Lawrence as number 4. Okay. I don't know if I
agree, but I can see it. That's fine. Yeah, J
-Law, I feel like we could have a drink or two
and have a good conversation. Number 2 is obviously
Chris Pratt. Chris Pratt? Okay. No, I can't get
through that with a straight face. Chris Pratt,
huh? So what was it like voicing Mario? yeah
mario um three and two that's that's no yeah
because i got oh man i have to rank them too
that's so tough well this is why i did i gave
you time i texted you i'm not ranking mine but
okay don't rank yours go ahead all right jill
do you have some yeah okay uh diane keaton okay
okay She seems really cool. She's Annie Hall.
She's got a really fascinating film career. You
bring that up and I just remember that Jack Nicholson's
my number three. Jack Nicholson, huh? I thought
about him too. Number two would be Elijah Wood.
Yeah. It has to be someone from Lord of the Rings.
Okay, that'd be fun. He's not on my list, but
that'd be fun. Joseph Gordon -Levitt. He seems
like a really chill dude. I don't even think
he's in my top 10. I'm sorry. Annie Hathaway.
Call her Annie. Annie. She said that. To call
her that. Steve Martin. Steve Martin. Okay. That'd
be a fun one. How many is that? Is that four?
Yes. I think you got to four. Yeah. Okay. Right.
And then like, I mean. Just to top it, round
it out with a fifth, I'll say Christopher Walken.
Christopher Walken would be fun. I want to talk
to him about dance. That Fatboy Slim music video.
Jack Black would also be in mine. Jack Black
was my number one. I've got the Tooch, J -Law,
Jack Nicholson, Blank, and Jack Black. The Blank
is Will Ferrell. Will Ferrell. Okay. That's a
good one. I think he'd be fun to have a drink
with and just talk to. For sure. Yeah. Okay.
Okay. Andre. All right. Harrison Ford's in there
for me. Good talk. Let's see. Ryan Gosling, probably.
Okay. So I'm at three with Jack Black. Harrison
Ford, Brian Gosling. This, I feel like, and this
one I'm a little, but I'm more like, I just want
to pick her brain. Robin Wright. I don't, I don't
know why she's on the list. Okay. Yeah. But she
would have, she would have a nice glass of red,
I think for sure. No, we're happy to, to, to,
I mean, I just told you that Stanley Tucci would
have a nice Pino. Like, yeah, like I would have,
I would have a good glass of Pino with him. He's
not one of those guys that I'm like expecting
to drink with. I'm expecting to have a drink
or two. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Robin Wright fits in
that category. And I think that's a good call.
Okay. And then my last, I got, I got, I got the
final one. I'll add Dick Van Dyke to mine. Dick
Van Dyke. Wow. Yeah. Is he still alive? Yes.
Yes. He's very much alive. I love it. I can't
have Kermit the Frog. Dick Van Dyke is pretty.
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. I'm sorry. I don't know
that he's still alive. That's funny. He's very
joyously in his late 80s. I actually don't...
Oh, yeah. No, he was at a baseball game recently.
I'm sorry. I feel bad now. And then my final
pick, and this one is kind of iffy, because I
feel like he'd be fucking weird about it, but
this is why I want this, right? It's Michael
Cera. I want to have a drink of Michael Cera.
No, Michael Cera's a good choice. I thought about
him. And it's mostly just because, like... I
feel like the first few drinks, like, yeah, okay,
that's a good conversation. When he got to, like,
three or four, then it's kind of like, Okay,
what the fuck? Yes, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like you could get that with Daniel Radcliffe,
too, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. I'd
actually... Dan Rad? So, to answer this question
properly, I actually would probably swap Dan
Radcliffe with Michael Cera because he seems
like a genuine chill dude, right? Yeah. Paul
Dano, also a great pick, too, but more like...
I want to hang out with Michael Cera and, like,
what is, like... What does grabbing a few drinks
with Michael Cera look like? It's out of curiosity.
Michael Cera, if you're a long listener, we're
telling you you're weird and we like it. You
just made me think of somebody that I might add
to my list and that's Timothy Oliphant. He's
another person that after a few drinks you're
just kind of like, okay. Who's your one dead
celebrity that you would want to get a drink
with if you could go back in time? dead celebrity
stuff yeah I know right that's what I'm stuck
with the first name that popped in my head was
Charlie Chaplin but I don't know what he sounds
like even you can hear him talk kind of somewhere
Yeah, kind of. I think the Great Dictator is
a silent film, but I think there's a lot of talking,
but I think you hear his voice in it anyway.
It would probably be depressing as fuck. Okay.
Ernest Hemingway. Ernie? The goddamn man has
a Hemingway daiquiri. The man can drink, yeah.
Yeah, he can definitely drink. He could get a
few drinks in. He's not an actor, but sure. Okay,
so we want to stick with actors, right? Okay,
got it. That's also my follow -up question. Didn't
I say actor? No, you said celebrity. Oh, sorry.
Okay. Cause I thought Albert Einstein, like,
like a cheesy answer. And I also thought Abraham
Lincoln cheesy answer, but I mean, mine, mine
fits both ways because they were both a celebrity
and an actor. It feels, this also feels expected,
but like Marlon Brando. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Jim
Henson is yeah. Yeah. No, Jim Henson fits you
completely. For sure. Yeah, I said Charlie Chaplin,
but I think that was just the first name that
popped in my head, not who I actually want. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. I got you. Oh, Christopher Lloyd.
Done. Isn't he still alive? Oh my god, Christopher
Lee. Jesus Christ. Christopher Lloyd is very
much still alive. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Not to
curse Christopher Lloyd. Christopher Lee. Yeah,
that's a good choice. Yeah, Christopher Lee.
Talk about his metal album. Yeah. Dude's got
some stories for sure. Yeah, he knows how to
kill a person. yeah right okay oh you've never
heard this no i have heard of this yeah um i'm
trying to think i i'll stick with my charlie
chaplin i don't think that's the right answer
but i'll stick with it for now because i just
can't think of somebody else that's fine i put
you on the spot i know and i'm also seven beers
deep i'm sure there's somebody else that i would
put but Yeah, I'm at that point. It's getting
to that point in the evening. It's getting to
that point. Yeah. That's Game for a Movie. Yeah.
I've been your host, Mike. I've been joined by
Andre and Jill. Thank you guys very much for
joining. We'll see you next time for Game for
a Movie, where we have another horror movie coming
out. Thanks for listening, friends. Bye.