WEBVTT 00:00:03.690 --> 00:00:05.209 You know what that sound means? It's another 00:00:05.209 --> 00:00:07.809 episode of Game for a Movie where we ask, are 00:00:07.809 --> 00:00:10.689 you game for a movie? My name is Mike. I'll be 00:00:10.689 --> 00:00:14.070 your host tonight. I am all alone again talking 00:00:14.070 --> 00:00:18.149 about a bad movie. That's okay. Just couldn't 00:00:18.149 --> 00:00:20.929 find the time right now. We have a lot going 00:00:20.929 --> 00:00:23.410 on in our lives, so I get it. It's tough to get 00:00:23.410 --> 00:00:25.870 everybody together. So it is just me tonight. 00:00:26.429 --> 00:00:28.589 Andre and Jill will hopefully be back on the 00:00:28.589 --> 00:00:31.070 show soon. Obviously, our last episode, we had 00:00:31.070 --> 00:00:33.630 my buddy Jim. It's great to have him on the show 00:00:33.630 --> 00:00:35.229 and we'll probably have him in the future as 00:00:35.229 --> 00:00:39.409 well. But I just wanted to sit and talk to you 00:00:39.409 --> 00:00:42.609 about a bad movie. Of course, first we got to 00:00:42.609 --> 00:00:45.270 jump into what we are drinking. I've already 00:00:45.270 --> 00:00:48.049 had a beer tonight, but I had a little bit of 00:00:48.049 --> 00:00:53.210 wine left. So I have an Apothic Merlot is what 00:00:53.210 --> 00:00:55.909 it's called. Apothic is the brand. You may have 00:00:55.909 --> 00:00:57.549 seen them. They're almost everywhere. They have 00:00:57.549 --> 00:01:00.500 every kind of wine it feels like. And the reason 00:01:00.500 --> 00:01:02.159 I'm drinking a Merlot because I'm not usually 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:05.000 a Merlot fan is I was cooking and it recommended 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:08.640 a Merlot for this recipe. So I've got a Merlot. 00:01:09.819 --> 00:01:11.819 I'll be completely honest. In the middle of summer, 00:01:11.980 --> 00:01:15.920 a red wine, especially a Merlot, does not sound 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:18.980 great. But it's not bad. I'll give it to it. 00:01:19.540 --> 00:01:22.400 If I had to drink a Merlot, maybe I'd drink this 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:25.739 again. I don't know. It's not terrible. But it's 00:01:25.739 --> 00:01:28.760 also not my forte. All right, enough hearing 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:34.840 me be a wine snob. Let's talk bad movies. So 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:37.439 it may make sense that I'm drinking a red wine 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:39.739 because this movie made me think of the cold. 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:44.920 This movie is The Snowman, which is very disappointing 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:48.780 as a movie because I read the book by Joe Nesbo 00:01:48.780 --> 00:01:52.019 and it was so good that I went and got another 00:01:52.019 --> 00:01:55.459 Joe Nesbo book like immediately after. I was 00:01:55.459 --> 00:01:58.790 ready to read them all. And then the snowman 00:01:58.790 --> 00:02:01.430 released and it got such bad reviews that I didn't 00:02:01.430 --> 00:02:03.489 want to give them any more of my money. I was 00:02:03.489 --> 00:02:06.209 just like, no, you, you ruined it. And I didn't 00:02:06.209 --> 00:02:09.229 even see it at that point. I just went by people's 00:02:09.229 --> 00:02:15.689 words, uh, to not read any more Joe Nesbo because 00:02:15.689 --> 00:02:20.689 of the success of the snowman movie, uh, which 00:02:20.689 --> 00:02:22.590 I'm pulling up the rotten tomatoes in the IMDb 00:02:22.590 --> 00:02:28.469 right now. The rotten tomatoes, um, this may 00:02:28.469 --> 00:02:32.770 be the lowest starting ranked movie that I've 00:02:32.770 --> 00:02:37.550 seen for this show. The critic score is a 7 % 00:02:37.550 --> 00:02:40.250 on Rotten Tomatoes. The audience score is an 00:02:40.250 --> 00:02:47.909 18%. Usually you don't see very often that the 00:02:47.909 --> 00:02:50.310 critics and the audience are like this close 00:02:50.310 --> 00:02:56.580 in everything. And I have to say, Pretty accurate 00:02:56.580 --> 00:03:01.319 for what it is. The IMDb score is a 5 .1 out 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:05.259 of 10. That's interesting. So talking about The 00:03:05.259 --> 00:03:08.780 Snowman, let's first talk about the awards it 00:03:08.780 --> 00:03:11.159 was nominated for. Yes, it was nominated for 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:14.139 one award. That is the St. Louis Film Critics 00:03:14.139 --> 00:03:18.159 Association 2017 nominee for worst film of the 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:21.120 year. And it did tie for second in that category. 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:24.620 It tied with King Arthur Legend of the Sword, 00:03:24.819 --> 00:03:27.400 which is another one I think I have to get on 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:30.280 this podcast eventually. The winner of that year 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:32.939 was a movie I covered a few episodes ago, The 00:03:32.939 --> 00:03:37.659 Mummy, the 2017 Mummy with Tom Cruise. For those 00:03:37.659 --> 00:03:39.620 of you that may have missed The Snowman, though, 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:44.900 it is a crime mystery. It's set in Norway, and 00:03:44.900 --> 00:03:47.620 it's set around the time of the first snowfall 00:03:47.620 --> 00:03:50.719 of the year. Now, the beginning of this movie, 00:03:50.819 --> 00:03:53.580 we do have a scene where it kind of gives an 00:03:53.580 --> 00:03:55.979 origin story to our killer. We don't exactly 00:03:55.979 --> 00:03:59.199 know it in the moment, but basically this young 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:02.419 kid, his uncle comes over or at least somebody 00:04:02.419 --> 00:04:06.199 he calls uncle. And not even three minutes in, 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:08.560 we get a sexual assault and a physical assault. 00:04:08.740 --> 00:04:12.039 She gets smacked around and she gets sexually 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:16.180 abused. Just setting the table perfectly for 00:04:16.180 --> 00:04:18.500 what kind of movie this is. It's not your happy 00:04:18.500 --> 00:04:21.120 -go -lucky, feel -good movie, just in case you 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:24.540 were wondering. And as soon as his mom was abused, 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:29.480 the kid who sees it runs out and makes a snowman. 00:04:29.620 --> 00:04:31.740 I wonder if that kid's going to be the killer. 00:04:31.939 --> 00:04:34.160 I don't know. In a movie called The Snowman, 00:04:34.259 --> 00:04:36.860 do you think making a snowman when your mom's 00:04:36.860 --> 00:04:40.540 been abused makes you the killer? I think so. 00:04:41.210 --> 00:04:44.370 We get a quick credit montage and we learn that 00:04:44.370 --> 00:04:48.069 the executive producer was Martin Scorsese. How 00:04:48.069 --> 00:04:51.870 did he leave his name on this film is one of 00:04:51.870 --> 00:04:54.769 the things I really want to know. Because I feel 00:04:54.769 --> 00:04:57.949 like once you saw the finished product, it's 00:04:57.949 --> 00:05:01.029 Scorsese. So I feel like he could have just said, 00:05:01.129 --> 00:05:04.550 yeah, I saw the product. I no longer want to 00:05:04.550 --> 00:05:06.389 be associated with this film. I'm just going 00:05:06.389 --> 00:05:09.689 to scrub my name off of there. But he was the 00:05:09.689 --> 00:05:12.850 executive producer for this film. It was directed 00:05:12.850 --> 00:05:20.170 by Thomas Alfredson. So yeah, we have one scene 00:05:20.170 --> 00:05:24.209 of this kid making a snowman while his mom's 00:05:24.209 --> 00:05:28.829 being abused. And we have a credit scene where 00:05:28.829 --> 00:05:31.129 we learn that Martin Scorsese is the executive 00:05:31.129 --> 00:05:35.050 producer of The Snowman. I will also say one 00:05:35.050 --> 00:05:38.389 of the cool things about the book. The Snowman 00:05:38.389 --> 00:05:41.470 by Joe Nesbo. He makes a snowman actually very 00:05:41.470 --> 00:05:44.790 chilling in his writing. He does a very good 00:05:44.790 --> 00:05:47.689 job of like when you see the snowman and you 00:05:47.689 --> 00:05:52.550 see his eyes just staring at you. It's completely 00:05:52.550 --> 00:05:55.029 different in the movie because it really just 00:05:55.029 --> 00:05:59.850 looks so like, meh, I'm just a snowman, meh. 00:06:01.050 --> 00:06:03.829 So it's not a very good job in the movie of making 00:06:03.829 --> 00:06:08.720 the snowman actually feel threatening. That brings 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:11.500 us to our main mystery after the opening sequence 00:06:11.500 --> 00:06:15.000 and the opening credits where this woman is texting 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:17.060 her daughter, letting her know she's on her way 00:06:17.060 --> 00:06:20.779 home. I caught a goof in this right away. Basically, 00:06:20.779 --> 00:06:24.000 they had sent two messages back and forth, and 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:26.600 then there was a third message, and then it went 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:30.100 back to two messages, and the daughter sent another 00:06:30.100 --> 00:06:32.060 message. It was just kind of one of those funny 00:06:32.060 --> 00:06:36.759 things that I noticed right away. But the mom... 00:06:36.990 --> 00:06:38.889 basically is walking towards her car and she 00:06:38.889 --> 00:06:41.850 gets hit by a snowball and she's kind of looking 00:06:41.850 --> 00:06:43.930 around and doesn't see where it came from so 00:06:43.930 --> 00:06:46.990 she just kind of that's fine goes to her car 00:06:46.990 --> 00:06:51.529 and she drives home so that kind of flashes forward 00:06:51.529 --> 00:06:53.769 we don't know what exactly happened to the mom 00:06:53.769 --> 00:06:55.430 yet we don't know what happened to the daughter 00:06:55.430 --> 00:06:58.610 or the husband fiance boyfriend we don't know 00:06:58.610 --> 00:07:00.649 really what he is but you know he's just a part 00:07:00.649 --> 00:07:08.149 of their lives um It goes to the police office 00:07:08.149 --> 00:07:10.269 where they're talking about these new gadgets 00:07:10.269 --> 00:07:13.370 they have, which are basically like these gigantic 00:07:13.370 --> 00:07:16.290 iPads, but basically you use your fingerprint 00:07:16.290 --> 00:07:19.230 to get into it, and it actually does a fingerprint 00:07:19.230 --> 00:07:21.790 versus, you know, how the iPad and the iPhone, 00:07:21.870 --> 00:07:24.990 they say, oh, we got your fingerprint, and you're 00:07:24.990 --> 00:07:27.370 not really sure how they do it. You don't really 00:07:27.370 --> 00:07:28.970 think they have their fingerprint. This one's 00:07:28.970 --> 00:07:31.730 actually legit. Like, it's got my fingerprint. 00:07:32.610 --> 00:07:35.430 It can record things. You can write down notes. 00:07:35.490 --> 00:07:39.769 All of this on one single big gigantic iPad thing. 00:07:40.089 --> 00:07:42.949 So they're introducing that whole thing. And 00:07:42.949 --> 00:07:47.889 we meet our detective, Harry Hull. Yes, I'm going 00:07:47.889 --> 00:07:49.810 to laugh several times at the fact that Michael 00:07:49.810 --> 00:07:52.110 Fassbender's character's name is Harry Hull. 00:07:52.189 --> 00:07:54.269 I was doing it the entire time I read the book, 00:07:54.269 --> 00:07:59.459 too. Of all the names to give a detective for 00:07:59.459 --> 00:08:04.660 a drama mystery book, Harry Hole? Really? That's 00:08:04.660 --> 00:08:08.339 what you come up with? We know that Harry Hole 00:08:08.339 --> 00:08:13.339 kind of works on his own, but he meets the newer, 00:08:13.379 --> 00:08:19.220 younger detective, Rebecca Ferguson. Her character's 00:08:19.220 --> 00:08:23.720 name is Katrine. So Katrine and him kind of come 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:27.310 together. And we know they're going to work together. 00:08:28.230 --> 00:08:31.389 We also get a flashback to nine years earlier, 00:08:31.569 --> 00:08:35.690 and we see this other detective who we didn't 00:08:35.690 --> 00:08:37.870 know his name at the time, but he's played by 00:08:37.870 --> 00:08:42.970 Val Kilmer. His character's name is Rafto. That's 00:08:42.970 --> 00:08:46.149 his last name, probably, arguably, Rafto. Everybody 00:08:46.149 --> 00:08:48.730 just calls him Rafto whenever you see him. But 00:08:48.730 --> 00:08:52.600 Val Kilmer is also trying to solve... this case 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:55.620 of the snowman. He's seen the same things where 00:08:55.620 --> 00:08:59.379 women disappear, there's a snowman at the situation, 00:08:59.620 --> 00:09:02.919 and so he's trying to solve it in the past nine 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:06.720 years before this disappearance and Harry Hole 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:11.340 is on the case. God damn it. I'm so immature. 00:09:12.299 --> 00:09:15.279 I don't really care. You can laugh at me, you 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:17.980 can say whatever about me and how immature I 00:09:17.980 --> 00:09:22.970 am, but Harry Hole is just hysterical. At this 00:09:22.970 --> 00:09:24.750 point, I'm very confused with all the time jumps 00:09:24.750 --> 00:09:26.850 and everything because we're probably about 15 00:09:26.850 --> 00:09:29.190 minutes into the movie. We've had the origin 00:09:29.190 --> 00:09:33.230 story for the killer. We've had the woman and 00:09:33.230 --> 00:09:36.389 her night, but we then jumped to the next day 00:09:36.389 --> 00:09:38.809 where the detectives find out that she's missing 00:09:38.809 --> 00:09:41.090 and they need to go do something about it. And 00:09:41.090 --> 00:09:43.710 then we also had a nine years back jump with 00:09:43.710 --> 00:09:47.370 Val Kilmer. It's so confusing at this point. 00:09:47.870 --> 00:09:50.490 Even though they want to kind of show you like 00:09:50.490 --> 00:09:52.629 we're star studded. We have Rebecca Ferguson. 00:09:52.730 --> 00:09:54.610 We have Michael Fassbender. We have Val Kilmer. 00:09:54.789 --> 00:09:57.269 All these people are in this movie. Look at us. 00:09:59.149 --> 00:10:01.870 Also not introduced yet, but they also have Chloe 00:10:01.870 --> 00:10:06.210 Savigny and J .K. Simmons are in this movie as 00:10:06.210 --> 00:10:08.549 well. So they do have like a pretty good cast 00:10:08.549 --> 00:10:11.370 for this movie. And it's based on a good story. 00:10:11.789 --> 00:10:15.590 So I just don't understand how this movie like 00:10:15.590 --> 00:10:18.759 missed so hard. But yeah, so that's what I was 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:20.220 thinking at this point. I'm like, this is star 00:10:20.220 --> 00:10:22.139 -studded, but it's just so confusing with all 00:10:22.139 --> 00:10:25.039 these time jumps and everything like that. So 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:27.860 it then goes back after showing a little bit 00:10:27.860 --> 00:10:30.059 of the nine years before and just showing that 00:10:30.059 --> 00:10:32.440 Val Kilmer's on the case of the snowman nine 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:37.279 years earlier. We learn that the woman is missing. 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:41.580 Her scarf was found around a snowman outside. 00:10:42.539 --> 00:10:46.440 And the little girl, like her daughter, Was like, 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.799 I didn't build that. We also learn that all the 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.419 victims so far have had children. They are married 00:10:54.419 --> 00:10:57.740 or at least dating somebody in their lives. And 00:10:57.740 --> 00:11:01.620 that it was snowing when they disappeared. That's 00:11:01.620 --> 00:11:04.200 all we know so far at this point in the mystery. 00:11:05.659 --> 00:11:07.940 We also know that Harry doesn't really drive. 00:11:08.299 --> 00:11:13.620 He has Katrine drive him everywhere. So Katrine 00:11:13.620 --> 00:11:18.080 drives him home. Or at least where we think he's 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:21.179 going is home. But really, she's driving him 00:11:21.179 --> 00:11:28.139 to his ex's house. We learn that his ex is dating 00:11:28.139 --> 00:11:32.159 somebody named Matthias. And then she has a son 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:38.080 named Oleg. Oleg is not Harry's son. She had 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:41.039 Oleg from another relationship. She doesn't really 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:43.440 know who the father is. We don't really get into 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.919 any of that. But Harry kind of is just like trying 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:50.500 to be better and being in Oleg's life because 00:11:50.500 --> 00:11:52.840 he does want to kind of be like a father figure 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.740 to him. That's really all we get that he wants 00:11:56.740 --> 00:11:58.759 to be. We really don't even see that he wants 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:00.940 to be with his ex again. We kind of assume that's 00:12:00.940 --> 00:12:04.419 probably part of it, too. But truthfully, it 00:12:04.419 --> 00:12:07.019 seems more so like he's trying to be a father 00:12:07.019 --> 00:12:11.389 for Oleg. Trying to be a father to Oleg, he takes 00:12:11.389 --> 00:12:13.950 Oleg to this concert that we think he's wanted 00:12:13.950 --> 00:12:17.110 to go to for forever. But really, neither of 00:12:17.110 --> 00:12:19.049 them seem very interested in the concert when 00:12:19.049 --> 00:12:21.070 they're actually there. And they're there for 00:12:21.070 --> 00:12:23.669 like all of five minutes before Harry gets a 00:12:23.669 --> 00:12:25.889 text and is like, oh, I need to take this. I 00:12:25.889 --> 00:12:28.649 need to take a call. And they're outside of the 00:12:28.649 --> 00:12:31.909 concert venue. So this big important call that 00:12:31.909 --> 00:12:34.129 he gets is that another woman has disappeared, 00:12:34.309 --> 00:12:37.129 but she's disappeared like hours away. And so 00:12:37.129 --> 00:12:39.490 they left the concert. So that he could be told 00:12:39.490 --> 00:12:42.690 this. And they don't even go until the morning. 00:12:43.029 --> 00:12:45.330 So they just like wasted those tickets. Even 00:12:45.330 --> 00:12:47.929 though Oleg was supposedly like looking forward 00:12:47.929 --> 00:12:51.529 to this band for forever. He apologizes to Oleg. 00:12:51.590 --> 00:12:55.110 But also kind of says. Hey I know there's like 00:12:55.110 --> 00:12:58.389 this father son camping trip. Why don't I go 00:12:58.389 --> 00:13:02.350 with you as like your father figure. You know 00:13:02.350 --> 00:13:04.950 like kind of would you be okay with that. And 00:13:04.950 --> 00:13:07.879 Oleg. His face lights up and he's like, yeah. 00:13:08.220 --> 00:13:11.059 And you can tell like this kid just he wants 00:13:11.059 --> 00:13:14.720 to have a dad in the picture. And truthfully, 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:17.259 this is probably one of the moments that I actually 00:13:17.259 --> 00:13:20.679 liked because I liked Oleg. I think he was a 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:23.379 good kid that just kind of they didn't have much 00:13:23.379 --> 00:13:25.879 to do for him. And he's not like a main character. 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:28.600 He's just kind of on the side. But he seems like 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:30.279 a good kid. He seems like he's got a good head 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:32.120 on his shoulders. He understands the situation. 00:13:32.340 --> 00:13:34.970 He understands that. His dad's not in the picture. 00:13:35.129 --> 00:13:38.970 He understands that Matthias and Harry are both 00:13:38.970 --> 00:13:40.990 trying to be there as like this father figure 00:13:40.990 --> 00:13:45.549 for him. And I'm like reading into this. I'm 00:13:45.549 --> 00:13:47.570 reading in depth to this character that's just 00:13:47.570 --> 00:13:50.490 kind of like maybe 10 minutes of screen time 00:13:50.490 --> 00:13:53.590 probably total in this movie. But it does kind 00:13:53.590 --> 00:13:58.990 of feel like he did a good job. The actor for 00:13:58.990 --> 00:14:03.009 that was Michael Yates. Never heard of him before. 00:14:03.210 --> 00:14:06.149 I mean, he's got to be a young actor, but he's 00:14:06.149 --> 00:14:10.629 been two movies that are known. And one was a 00:14:10.629 --> 00:14:14.610 short. So, you know, this was his big movie, 00:14:14.669 --> 00:14:16.590 I guess. But he was he was pretty good in it 00:14:16.590 --> 00:14:20.409 for a child actor is what I'll say. And like 00:14:20.409 --> 00:14:24.269 child actor, he's probably 16, 17 at this point. 00:14:25.129 --> 00:14:27.190 So the call was a woman's disappearance, but 00:14:27.190 --> 00:14:29.490 it was like from a town really far away that 00:14:29.490 --> 00:14:31.389 they really don't have a jurisdiction over. But 00:14:31.389 --> 00:14:34.690 a snowman was found there so they can continue 00:14:34.690 --> 00:14:39.230 their investigation. So they basically say, OK, 00:14:39.429 --> 00:14:41.129 we'll wait until the morning to drive there because 00:14:41.129 --> 00:14:43.450 it's so far away. And then it gives a little 00:14:43.450 --> 00:14:47.200 more about Rafto. Or Val Kilmer and how he's 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:50.039 kind of like losing his mind about this case. 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:53.419 He's getting a little more, you know, he's drinking 00:14:53.419 --> 00:14:55.539 a little more. He's getting a little more agitated 00:14:55.539 --> 00:14:58.039 about everything. You know, that kind of stuff. 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:03.580 And Val Kilmer's scenes are in like three minute 00:15:03.580 --> 00:15:07.100 bursts. So I think they want you to feel bad 00:15:07.100 --> 00:15:09.559 for him. But at the same time, it's like a three 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:12.639 minute burst. I don't care about his character 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:15.629 at all. and I don't have any understanding why 00:15:15.629 --> 00:15:17.909 they're showing this. It made sense at the end, 00:15:18.029 --> 00:15:22.309 but even then, it's just weak sauce. So after 00:15:22.309 --> 00:15:24.370 that scene, just kind of showing that he's losing 00:15:24.370 --> 00:15:26.570 it a little bit, that he's starting to drink 00:15:26.570 --> 00:15:30.269 a little more, it goes back to the present, and 00:15:30.269 --> 00:15:34.840 Harry Hole... drinking game every time i say 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:37.460 harry hole and i laugh uh you need a drink uh 00:15:37.460 --> 00:15:41.120 harry hole and katrine are driving to this woman's 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:43.620 house to see if there's any clues for where she 00:15:43.620 --> 00:15:46.500 may have disappeared to they get to the house 00:15:46.500 --> 00:15:48.019 and it's like abundantly clear that somebody 00:15:48.019 --> 00:15:51.360 was there um the door was open the lights are 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:55.860 on the tv's on you know it's just kind of okay 00:15:55.860 --> 00:15:58.399 maybe there was a struggle they start thinking 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:01.129 and maybe there was she was Rushed out of the 00:16:01.129 --> 00:16:04.590 house quickly or something like that. But basically, 00:16:04.649 --> 00:16:06.870 she's in the shed. She cut a head off a chicken. 00:16:07.090 --> 00:16:09.169 She's, like, listening to music so she didn't 00:16:09.169 --> 00:16:11.289 hear them. So she's startled when they, like, 00:16:11.330 --> 00:16:14.190 finally get her attention. And they're kind of, 00:16:14.289 --> 00:16:19.070 hey, do you know this girl Sylvia? Like, we got 00:16:19.070 --> 00:16:24.850 a report from her ex -boyfriend that she went 00:16:24.850 --> 00:16:29.539 missing. and she's like um i'm sylvia i'm not 00:16:29.539 --> 00:16:32.940 missing and so they were just like oh okay cool 00:16:32.940 --> 00:16:35.559 great sorry about that we walked through your 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:37.659 house like we didn't touch anything we just walked 00:16:37.659 --> 00:16:39.480 through so i just wanted to let you know your 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:41.980 tv's on that kind of stuff and they turned the 00:16:41.980 --> 00:16:47.620 music off um and so great they're all that's 00:16:47.620 --> 00:16:52.320 all fine and dandy and then we see sylvia talking 00:16:53.179 --> 00:16:55.779 To what we assume is her ex -boyfriend going, 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:58.539 really? You called me missing? Like you're getting 00:16:58.539 --> 00:17:00.659 the police involved and everything like that? 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:03.139 Don't do that. I told you this is over. We're 00:17:03.139 --> 00:17:07.980 done. Everything like that. But while she's on 00:17:07.980 --> 00:17:10.779 the phone, she doesn't notice the shadowy figure 00:17:10.779 --> 00:17:17.920 that sneaks into the shed behind her. And then 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:24.299 Harry and Katrine get a call. that she's declared 00:17:24.299 --> 00:17:29.700 missing again i don't know how far they must 00:17:29.700 --> 00:17:34.180 have been but it was like daytime and then all 00:17:34.180 --> 00:17:38.000 of a sudden it's just nighttime like it and probably 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:41.759 early daytime it's not like they were gone for 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:44.440 forever by the time she actually went missing 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:47.099 again so by the time they get there it's nighttime 00:17:47.099 --> 00:17:51.859 um in the middle of like this hole That's in 00:17:51.859 --> 00:17:54.759 the shed. And I don't know what it's for. I think 00:17:54.759 --> 00:17:56.579 it's like a, it may have been like a dried up 00:17:56.579 --> 00:17:58.480 well or something like that. I don't know. It's 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:02.099 just a very deep hole. Not a hairy hole, but 00:18:02.099 --> 00:18:08.279 a hole. God damn it. I'm never going to stop 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:12.019 laughing at this. Why? In the middle of this 00:18:12.019 --> 00:18:16.680 hole down at the bottom is a snowman. But instead 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:20.710 of a snowman head. It's her head that's been 00:18:20.710 --> 00:18:27.630 chopped off and put on top of it. So on this 00:18:27.630 --> 00:18:30.450 present timeline, we have one girl missing. We 00:18:30.450 --> 00:18:33.730 have one woman definitely dead. So now feels 00:18:33.730 --> 00:18:36.569 like a good time to take a break in between. 00:18:37.210 --> 00:18:42.109 And our break normally is a promo for another 00:18:42.109 --> 00:18:46.400 podcast friend of ours. Mike told us that his 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:50.259 podcast promo is a little outdated, so he didn't 00:18:50.259 --> 00:18:51.920 really want to play it, and that's totally okay. 00:18:52.180 --> 00:18:54.740 But our friend that gets the bad movie right 00:18:54.740 --> 00:18:58.400 is at Tencent Takes. It's Mike and Jessica, a 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:01.059 podcast looking at comics history, pop culture, 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:05.740 and how the two connect. Also, swears. So we 00:19:05.740 --> 00:19:08.240 love them dearly. They actually are really good 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:12.250 friends of ours. Truthfully, it is an honor to 00:19:12.250 --> 00:19:15.450 be able to shout them out on this episode. Mike 00:19:15.450 --> 00:19:18.430 got it right. He was the first one to guess the 00:19:18.430 --> 00:19:21.930 snowman as our bad movie. So thank you, Mike, 00:19:21.990 --> 00:19:24.309 for playing along. Mike and Jessica, please check 00:19:24.309 --> 00:19:29.289 them out. Ten cent takes. I literally cannot 00:19:29.289 --> 00:19:33.089 say enough about their podcast because it's an 00:19:33.089 --> 00:19:37.950 amazing podcast and even better friends. So please 00:19:37.950 --> 00:19:40.240 check them out. Ten cent takes. Highly recommend 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:42.700 it. You will learn a ton from Mike and Jessica. 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:47.880 Comic history, pop culture, swears. What more 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:51.740 could you want from this? And speaking of swears, 00:19:51.740 --> 00:19:54.819 fuck yeah, we're in the second half of The Snowman. 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:59.880 So we have one lady missing, one lady dead. What 00:19:59.880 --> 00:20:02.700 else could possibly happen that Harry Hole and 00:20:02.700 --> 00:20:08.430 Katrine could find out? Plus, do we learn more 00:20:08.430 --> 00:20:12.950 about what happened to Val Kilmer? Those questions 00:20:12.950 --> 00:20:15.269 and more are going to be answered right now. 00:20:16.710 --> 00:20:19.829 So they do a little digging and Katrine finds 00:20:19.829 --> 00:20:23.930 out that both women, the one that disappeared 00:20:23.930 --> 00:20:27.190 and the one that's been murdered, are patients 00:20:27.190 --> 00:20:30.500 of the same doctor. And more specifically, this 00:20:30.500 --> 00:20:33.839 doctor is kind of like a fertility expert or 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:38.880 abortion expert or something like that. So basically, 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:41.779 the detectives learn that the doctor, whose name 00:20:41.779 --> 00:20:45.740 is Vetlesen, is going to be at this gala. The 00:20:45.740 --> 00:20:48.039 gala is being hosted by J .K. Simmons' character, 00:20:48.220 --> 00:20:51.579 which is Arva Stope. It's a very Scandinavian 00:20:51.579 --> 00:20:54.579 name, and so if I got that wrong, I don't mean 00:20:54.579 --> 00:20:57.200 to get that wrong on purpose. Basically, he's 00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:59.980 trying to bring these winter games to Norway. 00:21:00.099 --> 00:21:02.019 Not the Olympics. I can't remember the exact 00:21:02.019 --> 00:21:05.779 name, but these winter games. So Arva Stolp, 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:08.180 better known as J .K. Simmons, because I'm just 00:21:08.180 --> 00:21:10.980 going to call him J .K. Simmons, is hosting this 00:21:10.980 --> 00:21:16.940 gala. Vetlesen arrives and is bringing this woman 00:21:16.940 --> 00:21:21.859 with him. And so as J .K. Simmons is giving this 00:21:21.859 --> 00:21:24.440 big speech about how he's going to bring the 00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:27.940 games to Norway, Vetlison shows this woman to 00:21:27.940 --> 00:21:31.279 J .K. Simmons. And we learn that he is a big 00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:36.839 sleazeball pretty much. Katrine is able to infiltrate 00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:39.960 their secret meeting and take a picture or take 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:44.799 a video of basically J .K. Simmons and Vetlison 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:50.359 and this woman. Vetlison shows like... This woman's 00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:53.759 tits to J .K. Simmons and J .K. Simmons is like, 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:57.279 why did you bring her tonight? And he takes a 00:21:57.279 --> 00:22:00.539 picture with his phone and then walks away like 00:22:00.539 --> 00:22:03.160 you're you're an idiot. Don't get her out of 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:05.859 here. And so Vetlison leaves with the woman, 00:22:05.980 --> 00:22:08.720 although the woman leads ahead because she's 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:12.799 very. I mean, she's very embarrassed, wouldn't 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:15.990 you be? You just got basically. This doctor just 00:22:15.990 --> 00:22:18.190 grabbed your shirt, showed him your tits, and 00:22:18.190 --> 00:22:20.890 was like, okay, cool, I'm going to give you to 00:22:20.890 --> 00:22:24.710 him pretty much. Completely skeevy and everything 00:22:24.710 --> 00:22:29.150 like that. The hard part I have with this, and 00:22:29.150 --> 00:22:31.089 there's a lot, don't get me wrong, but the hardest 00:22:31.089 --> 00:22:34.730 part I have with this is the fact that this really 00:22:34.730 --> 00:22:39.150 doesn't come into play anywhere else. I think 00:22:39.150 --> 00:22:42.680 this was just put in there. To make J .K. Simmons 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:46.539 seem like he's the bad guy. Spoiler alert. He's 00:22:46.539 --> 00:22:49.519 not the killer. And I think this is just a huge 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:52.240 red herring. That they did in one scene. To be 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:55.019 like. Yeah it could be J .K. Simmons. It could 00:22:55.019 --> 00:22:59.819 be Vetlison. We're going to make it seem like. 00:22:59.900 --> 00:23:04.680 Both of these men hate women. And so. It's really 00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:11.549 hard in this scene. Because. It's obvious. That 00:23:11.549 --> 00:23:13.430 they're trying to make them seem like suspects. 00:23:13.849 --> 00:23:18.390 Like it's very obvious. And so immediately. And 00:23:18.390 --> 00:23:20.670 that's probably what this movie does so poorly. 00:23:20.789 --> 00:23:24.630 Is immediately I'm going. Okay cool. They just 00:23:24.630 --> 00:23:26.549 make them seem like suspects. Because they're 00:23:26.549 --> 00:23:28.970 suspects. But they're not. Like neither of these 00:23:28.970 --> 00:23:33.309 two are the suspect. I don't think. Maybe I'm 00:23:33.309 --> 00:23:39.339 wrong. But I fully got from that one scene. that 00:23:39.339 --> 00:23:41.920 neither of these two are the killer they just 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:45.579 want to make them seem more suspecty back to 00:23:45.579 --> 00:23:47.839 the police station katrine and harry are working 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:50.180 on their leads and everything like that and katrine's 00:23:50.180 --> 00:23:53.160 gonna call it a night and harry basically breaks 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:58.960 into katrine's file folders and takes some information 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:03.700 including that there was more information in 00:24:03.700 --> 00:24:07.539 bergen Bergen's a town that's like a two hour 00:24:07.539 --> 00:24:10.359 train ride away and they have no jurisdiction, 00:24:10.420 --> 00:24:12.259 but he's just going to try to get more information. 00:24:12.859 --> 00:24:15.980 So instead of telling Katrine, he just kind of 00:24:15.980 --> 00:24:19.240 leaves on a train to Bergen. And wouldn't you 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:24.339 know it also on this train is Matthias, the boyfriend 00:24:24.339 --> 00:24:29.420 of Harry's ex. Matthias is like, oh, cool. Like, 00:24:29.460 --> 00:24:31.839 what are you doing here? Aren't you supposed 00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:35.910 to be on that camping trip with Oleg? and harry 00:24:35.910 --> 00:24:40.250 goes fuck and like i'm just i'm sitting there 00:24:40.250 --> 00:24:42.230 like he's just a shit dad he doesn't remember 00:24:42.230 --> 00:24:46.089 anything or anything like that um matthias calls 00:24:46.089 --> 00:24:51.910 olig and is basically like hey um it's totally 00:24:51.910 --> 00:24:54.829 my fault harry called me yesterday and said he 00:24:54.829 --> 00:24:56.710 wasn't he was feeling under the weather and he's 00:24:56.710 --> 00:24:58.450 not going to be able to make it i i'd completely 00:24:58.450 --> 00:25:01.089 spaced i wasn't able to tell you and so like 00:25:01.089 --> 00:25:03.869 olig Doesn't go on the trip anymore, but is just 00:25:03.869 --> 00:25:06.410 kind of like, oh, okay, so Matthias is a dick. 00:25:06.609 --> 00:25:10.170 Harry still might be a good father figure. And 00:25:10.170 --> 00:25:12.890 I was like, that's actually really cool. Like, 00:25:12.890 --> 00:25:17.609 this guy, he's around your ex constantly. He's 00:25:17.609 --> 00:25:21.470 around this boy that's your ex's son that you're 00:25:21.470 --> 00:25:23.529 kind of trying to be a father figure to. And 00:25:23.529 --> 00:25:26.289 you take the heat to kind of make him look good. 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:29.039 I don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me. 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:31.619 Why would you do that? But it's at the same time, 00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:33.819 I'm just sitting there going, all right, Matthias, 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:37.480 cool. Good for you. Matthias was on the train. 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:41.279 He's going to a conference. He is a plastic surgeon. 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.539 And so he's going to a conference. And it kind 00:25:45.539 --> 00:25:47.759 of at this point shows you some scenics of Norway. 00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:50.359 And I included a note that besides the snow. 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:53.480 I really want to see Norway. I think they did 00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:56.220 a really good job in this movie of selling you 00:25:56.220 --> 00:26:00.180 on Norway. Everything about it is just absolutely 00:26:00.180 --> 00:26:04.680 gorgeous. The scenics they took, and mind you, 00:26:04.700 --> 00:26:07.240 this is still with the snow, which I'm not a 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:10.579 huge fan of snow. Just seeing all these scenics 00:26:10.579 --> 00:26:12.779 that they took with it and everything, it is 00:26:12.779 --> 00:26:15.240 a gorgeous place. And I really kind of want to 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:20.029 go to Norway now because of this movie. It kind 00:26:20.029 --> 00:26:22.549 of uses those scenics to transition again to 00:26:22.549 --> 00:26:26.589 nine years earlier, and we get the end result 00:26:26.589 --> 00:26:33.869 of what happened to Val Kilmer's character. Val 00:26:33.869 --> 00:26:39.529 Kilmer, basically, we find out that he's suicidal 00:26:39.529 --> 00:26:45.289 about this, or at least he's a little mentally 00:26:45.289 --> 00:26:48.309 unhinged where he's walked out on this roof balcony. 00:26:48.970 --> 00:26:52.630 And if this cop doesn't come talk to him, we're 00:26:52.630 --> 00:26:55.190 not 100 % sure that he might not just jump off 00:26:55.190 --> 00:26:58.329 the roof. So we kind of learn that he's kind 00:26:58.329 --> 00:27:00.549 of at wit's end because of this killer and everything. 00:27:00.670 --> 00:27:04.329 And he's not getting any closer. And then we 00:27:04.329 --> 00:27:08.250 learn that Val Kilmer killed himself. Shot himself 00:27:08.250 --> 00:27:12.970 with a shotgun in the face. Blew off half of 00:27:12.970 --> 00:27:19.079 his head too. And I'm not meaning to... undersell 00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:21.519 this or anything like that I'm just kind of like 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:27.079 saying these are the things we learn and it's 00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:30.079 just kind of what was fact at this point so we 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:32.700 learned that Val Kilmer killed himself and it 00:27:32.700 --> 00:27:35.119 also is a little sad because at this point I 00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:37.559 also realized I think he's being dubbed over 00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.779 and knowing what I know now about how he has 00:27:41.779 --> 00:27:44.880 throat cancer and everything like that it's kind 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:49.319 of sad I like Val Kilmer and I wish I wish there 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.960 was, well, I wish there was no cancer in the 00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:54.880 world. That's for, that's for damn sure. Uh, 00:27:54.980 --> 00:27:58.220 I don't think anybody here would disagree with 00:27:58.220 --> 00:28:02.039 that, but it's just kind of sad that Val Kilmer's 00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:05.500 voice is so gone that I can't tell if it's dubbed 00:28:05.500 --> 00:28:07.579 over or if this is really what he sounds like, 00:28:07.619 --> 00:28:10.960 but it's tough. It's really tough in this part. 00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.799 So Val Kilmer is gone. Um, we flashback to the 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:21.170 present. And while Harry is in Bergen learning, 00:28:21.269 --> 00:28:23.809 this is kind of where he picks up the stuff about 00:28:23.809 --> 00:28:26.549 Val Kilmer and why we get the end story and what 00:28:26.549 --> 00:28:30.170 happened and everything. While that's happening, 00:28:30.369 --> 00:28:34.670 Katrine, basically the phone of the first missing 00:28:34.670 --> 00:28:39.750 person, turns on. And they're able to locate 00:28:39.750 --> 00:28:43.789 it at the creepy doctor's house. She's like, 00:28:43.809 --> 00:28:46.150 yeah, I'm going to go alone to Vetlandson's house. 00:28:47.369 --> 00:28:50.390 So she goes by herself to Vetlandson's house 00:28:50.390 --> 00:28:57.809 to kind of basically make the arrest because 00:28:57.809 --> 00:29:00.970 she thinks the creepy doctor did it. And she 00:29:00.970 --> 00:29:05.269 gets into the house and there's nobody really 00:29:05.269 --> 00:29:09.730 around or anything like that. At least not in 00:29:09.730 --> 00:29:13.839 her initial search. So she goes into the garage 00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:17.059 and sitting on a chair in the middle of the garage 00:29:17.059 --> 00:29:21.740 with his head blown off and in a pile of water 00:29:21.740 --> 00:29:28.259 is the creepy Dr. Vetleson. And so there's also 00:29:28.259 --> 00:29:31.420 a bunch of bodies that we learn from the forensics 00:29:31.420 --> 00:29:33.059 team when they get there and they start doing 00:29:33.059 --> 00:29:35.660 their research and everything. Basically, he 00:29:35.660 --> 00:29:38.660 had two or three women's bodies there, including 00:29:38.660 --> 00:29:44.579 the first missing woman. So case solved, right? 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.019 Vetlason is the one who did it. He killed all 00:29:48.019 --> 00:29:49.759 these girls because he felt like people were 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.660 getting on his case. And then he shot himself. 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.200 So obviously, case solved. Everything's done. 00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:02.299 Because she went by herself, Katrine is suspended. 00:30:03.539 --> 00:30:07.299 Basically losing a week because she didn't go 00:30:07.299 --> 00:30:10.589 with backup. And it's all because she was told 00:30:10.589 --> 00:30:12.750 to wait, but she kind of was just like, I'm not 00:30:12.750 --> 00:30:15.789 going to wait. I'm going to go. Her and Harry 00:30:15.789 --> 00:30:17.869 are talking and Harry's like, well, that's it. 00:30:17.930 --> 00:30:19.829 It's wrapped up. I mean, he committed suicide. 00:30:19.890 --> 00:30:22.069 He killed those girls. He obviously did it. The 00:30:22.069 --> 00:30:26.470 snowman's been captured or is dead. The case 00:30:26.470 --> 00:30:31.690 is closed. Katrine doesn't believe it. And we 00:30:31.690 --> 00:30:33.710 don't know why she doesn't believe it, but she's 00:30:33.710 --> 00:30:37.769 very strongly doesn't believe it. And she's starting 00:30:37.769 --> 00:30:40.789 to believe that maybe J .K. Simmons is part of 00:30:40.789 --> 00:30:44.670 this because obviously he had the girls and maybe 00:30:44.670 --> 00:30:49.109 he killed Vetlison and killed those girls because 00:30:49.109 --> 00:30:51.569 he felt like people were getting too close now. 00:30:52.069 --> 00:30:57.069 And so she goes to his next big gala event. Katrine 00:30:57.069 --> 00:30:59.269 goes by herself to this next big gala event. 00:30:59.609 --> 00:31:03.750 And she, like I said, is suspended, but she has 00:31:03.750 --> 00:31:07.200 her. computer ipad thing that's why the thing 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:10.960 was so such a big deal in the beginning she's 00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:14.319 talking to him and basically says this is the 00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.240 night they find out if they're going to win the 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:22.839 winter sports world cup thing um so she basically 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:25.400 like runs into jk simmons and was kind of like 00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:28.880 oh you're such a big deal like i love you you're 00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:33.500 the best um And if this goes well tonight or 00:31:33.500 --> 00:31:37.220 if it doesn't, you can have me. And kind of hits 00:31:37.220 --> 00:31:41.480 on him. I mean no ill will to Rebecca Ferguson 00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:45.420 because she is a very attractive woman. But if 00:31:45.420 --> 00:31:47.519 you look at the rest of the girls in this movie 00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:50.339 that J .K. Simmons has been with so far that 00:31:50.339 --> 00:31:56.420 we've seen, they're all very young women. And 00:31:56.420 --> 00:31:59.319 so I'm surprised he, she actually tried it a 00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.579 and B that he was just like, yeah, sure. Okay. 00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:04.440 And he takes a picture of her too. Like she, 00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:07.160 like he did with the woman with the boobs. Um, 00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.920 it's just all kinds of creepy. And again, it 00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.720 just feels like we're just building up to, he's 00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:16.900 just a suspect for the sake of suspect. While 00:32:16.900 --> 00:32:19.960 Katrina is doing her work at the gala, uh, Harry 00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.700 is back home, just kind of relaxing, taking it 00:32:22.700 --> 00:32:24.559 easy. Cause you know, case closed and everything 00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:27.680 like that. One of the things I forgot to mention 00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:29.400 as well is he's been having trouble sleeping. 00:32:29.579 --> 00:32:36.440 And Matthias, because he's a plastic surgeon, 00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:39.180 is able to write him a prescription for sleeping 00:32:39.180 --> 00:32:43.759 pills. And so that's in his house. Just throwing 00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:45.980 that because it does come into play in the next 00:32:45.980 --> 00:32:48.640 couple of minutes. When they're on the train, 00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:50.859 he basically gives him a prescription to fill 00:32:50.859 --> 00:32:53.859 and everything like that. So Harry's relaxing 00:32:53.859 --> 00:32:59.880 at home. And Harry's ex Raquel comes into his 00:32:59.880 --> 00:33:02.240 place just to kind of talk to him about like 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.140 Oleg and everything like that and how Oleg was 00:33:05.140 --> 00:33:08.180 so disappointed. And Harry goes, I know I just 00:33:08.180 --> 00:33:10.079 got stuck working and I'm really trying to be 00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:12.700 there for him and everything like that. And then 00:33:12.700 --> 00:33:16.940 Raquel, like the entire time they're having this 00:33:16.940 --> 00:33:18.960 conversation, Harry's laying on the floor, not 00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:20.880 even on a bed or anything like that. He's just 00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:24.380 on a floor. Like with books holding his head 00:33:24.380 --> 00:33:30.579 up and she goes on top of him and is just like, 00:33:30.660 --> 00:33:35.460 I miss you. And it leads to this like dry humping 00:33:35.460 --> 00:33:38.700 scene. And it's a really bad soundtrack song 00:33:38.700 --> 00:33:41.559 too. That's playing in the background. And it's 00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:44.519 just so awkward. Like the entire thing is just 00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:49.740 kind of all this kind of awkward. So yeah. If 00:33:49.740 --> 00:33:51.539 they thought they were being sexy in this movie, 00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.640 they definitely weren't. This dry humping scene 00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:58.500 was definitely not getting anybody in this one. 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:03.420 Raquel kind of goes to get ready because she 00:34:03.420 --> 00:34:06.140 basically is throwing herself back at Harry. 00:34:07.460 --> 00:34:10.599 So she goes into the bathroom and she's exploring 00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:13.000 the shelves and everything like that. And she 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:17.519 sees the sleeping pills prescription by Matthias. 00:34:18.190 --> 00:34:20.710 And she's like, you couldn't go to anyone else 00:34:20.710 --> 00:34:24.250 and throws the pills at him. Like he did something 00:34:24.250 --> 00:34:26.889 wrong with this and everything. And he doesn't 00:34:26.889 --> 00:34:29.289 say anything like he doesn't say, hey, look, 00:34:29.469 --> 00:34:31.750 I saw him. I just kind of said, like, I've been 00:34:31.750 --> 00:34:33.489 having problems sleeping. He wrote me this prescription 00:34:33.489 --> 00:34:35.409 that would have done it. That would have been 00:34:35.409 --> 00:34:38.389 just fine. But he never does that. He just kind 00:34:38.389 --> 00:34:44.269 of is like, OK, cool. See you. Bye. And so. When 00:34:44.269 --> 00:34:47.170 Raquel gets home, she, like, yells at Matthias 00:34:47.170 --> 00:34:51.510 for, like, she thinks kind of two -timing her. 00:34:51.869 --> 00:34:57.389 Where he's also kind of taking Harry as a patient. 00:34:57.909 --> 00:35:00.769 And Matthias literally is just like, no, this 00:35:00.769 --> 00:35:04.230 is what happened. This is what happened. I gave 00:35:04.230 --> 00:35:05.750 him a prescription because he said he was having 00:35:05.750 --> 00:35:09.989 trouble sleeping. At this point, I hate Harry 00:35:09.989 --> 00:35:14.760 and I like Matthias. Truthfully. And I don't 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:17.019 think it's Fassbender's fault because I just 00:35:17.019 --> 00:35:18.860 think it's how they wrote the character. They 00:35:18.860 --> 00:35:21.019 want you to pity him. They want you to be like, 00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.860 oh, he's such a sad sack. He has such a sad life. 00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:28.980 Oh, blah, blah, blah. He's so pitiful and everything 00:35:28.980 --> 00:35:31.480 like that. And I just never do. I always feel 00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:35.739 like you make yourself so much worse than it 00:35:35.739 --> 00:35:40.039 actually is. Meanwhile, at the gala, Oslo has 00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:43.769 won the Winter Sports World Cup. So this is great. 00:35:43.869 --> 00:35:46.849 Good news. J .K. Simmons is going around doing 00:35:46.849 --> 00:35:49.670 all the like happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great news. 00:35:49.909 --> 00:35:53.530 And Katrine slips up to the room that she's supposed 00:35:53.530 --> 00:35:58.849 to meet J .K. Simmons at. And she sets up her 00:35:58.849 --> 00:36:01.230 iPad like kind of hidden away from everything. 00:36:02.250 --> 00:36:06.630 And so she can kind of get this confession that 00:36:06.630 --> 00:36:11.989 he's a snowman and everything. So she's. there 00:36:11.989 --> 00:36:15.829 kind of preparing she hides a gun under the pillow 00:36:15.829 --> 00:36:20.769 she hides her ipad and then she steps outside 00:36:20.769 --> 00:36:25.849 to kind of take in that the norway and everything 00:36:25.849 --> 00:36:31.610 and she looks around and she sees a snowman and 00:36:31.610 --> 00:36:34.489 all of a sudden she's attacked from behind by 00:36:34.489 --> 00:36:37.610 the snowman and you think she's gonna get away 00:36:37.610 --> 00:36:41.659 with it she like rushes she like Fights him off, 00:36:41.780 --> 00:36:44.179 rushes to the bed, tries to find the gun. Nope, 00:36:44.219 --> 00:36:48.300 gun's not there. He grabs her with a garrotte 00:36:48.300 --> 00:36:52.400 and starts pulling on her neck from behind. And 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:57.980 she can't get away. And she is dead. So Oslo 00:36:57.980 --> 00:37:01.280 won the Winter Sports World Cup. But Katrine 00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:04.500 has been murdered. And we don't know who did 00:37:04.500 --> 00:37:08.920 it yet. She also had her finger chopped off in 00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:13.699 this whole ordeal. by an electric rope is really 00:37:13.699 --> 00:37:15.880 what I'll say it was at this point. We don't 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:18.539 know exactly what it is. She gets her finger 00:37:18.539 --> 00:37:21.320 chopped off and the snowman, you don't see him, 00:37:21.380 --> 00:37:24.800 but he uses her finger to access the iPad and 00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:28.320 delete a bunch of evidence because apparently 00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:32.059 she was getting close. He was able to delete 00:37:32.059 --> 00:37:35.900 all this stuff before it was able to go up to 00:37:35.900 --> 00:37:39.480 the cloud that they have and collect everything. 00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.360 after katrine's been murdered and all her evidence 00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.179 has been cleared and everything harry's kind 00:37:45.179 --> 00:37:47.400 of going through some of the stuff on her ipad 00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:50.940 and trying to figure out if she if he can figure 00:37:50.940 --> 00:37:54.559 out anything uh that she was putting together 00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:58.400 and he keeps going back to the first woman that 00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:02.179 disappeared and they found out that they saw 00:38:02.179 --> 00:38:07.380 a fertility specialist and more specifically 00:38:07.380 --> 00:38:12.869 that their daughter Was not his daughter because 00:38:12.869 --> 00:38:19.809 he's been. He's sterile. And so when they find 00:38:19.809 --> 00:38:22.210 that out, when Harry finds that out, he's like, 00:38:22.230 --> 00:38:26.570 what was the fertility specialist name? And it 00:38:26.570 --> 00:38:29.250 kind of mumbles to the phone and Harry's kind 00:38:29.250 --> 00:38:36.010 of what? And you realize. Slowly but surely that 00:38:36.010 --> 00:38:39.809 the fertility specialist. Has been claiming that 00:38:39.809 --> 00:38:41.730 he's been a plastic surgeon this whole time. 00:38:42.690 --> 00:38:49.829 It's Matthias. Oh no. Matthias. And Matthias 00:38:49.829 --> 00:38:52.449 just so happens to have kidnapped Raquel and 00:38:52.449 --> 00:38:56.210 Oleg. Magnus one of the secret agents or special 00:38:56.210 --> 00:38:58.730 ops or whatever. That's been working with Harry. 00:38:59.010 --> 00:39:01.909 He really wasn't important until this part. But 00:39:01.909 --> 00:39:05.449 basically Harry gets him to track Raquel's phone. 00:39:06.769 --> 00:39:10.639 And. So Harry follows it all the way to the cabin, 00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:17.119 which Matthias' uncle or whatever uncle or that 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:20.980 he called uncle basically killed his mother or 00:39:20.980 --> 00:39:24.920 at least drove her to commit suicide. So Harry 00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:30.940 goes into the cabin and Raquel and Oleg are sitting 00:39:30.940 --> 00:39:34.940 at the table tied up and Matthias has something 00:39:34.940 --> 00:39:39.630 over. Raquel's throat because at this point he 00:39:39.630 --> 00:39:41.349 doesn't want anything to happen to either of 00:39:41.349 --> 00:39:43.750 them Harry sits down at the table and throws 00:39:43.750 --> 00:39:46.550 his gun because that's what Matthias wants him 00:39:46.550 --> 00:39:52.070 to do and Matthias starts monologuing about how 00:39:52.070 --> 00:39:55.909 his mother killed herself because she was abused 00:39:55.909 --> 00:40:01.570 and because she didn't know who her son's father 00:40:01.570 --> 00:40:04.469 was and so Matthias has been killing all these 00:40:04.469 --> 00:40:08.820 people because They don't know who the father 00:40:08.820 --> 00:40:12.260 is of their child. And that's basically the motive 00:40:12.260 --> 00:40:18.420 or the modus operandi for why Matthias is killing 00:40:18.420 --> 00:40:23.980 these women. It's just so weak. It's just so 00:40:23.980 --> 00:40:27.559 weak. And especially because even Harry is just 00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.750 like, well, your uncle. Was your father and he 00:40:30.750 --> 00:40:33.590 beat your mother and he's the one that like put 00:40:33.590 --> 00:40:35.610 this psychological torture. Why don't you like 00:40:35.610 --> 00:40:41.170 kill the fathers? And Matthias gets really mad 00:40:41.170 --> 00:40:45.989 at him, giving him just enough time to be able 00:40:45.989 --> 00:40:49.349 to get Raquel out of her situation and to get 00:40:49.349 --> 00:40:54.010 Matthias to chase him outside into the icy abyss. 00:40:54.989 --> 00:40:58.110 So Harry is in the middle of the ice. And he 00:40:58.110 --> 00:41:00.469 just starts yelling at Matthias all these things. 00:41:00.969 --> 00:41:04.090 And all of a sudden you hear a gunshot go off. 00:41:04.389 --> 00:41:07.250 And Matthias basically just straight up shot 00:41:07.250 --> 00:41:11.070 Harry. Like it wasn't a kill shot or anything, 00:41:11.170 --> 00:41:13.429 but it literally was just, oh, cool. He just 00:41:13.429 --> 00:41:17.679 shot him. Honestly, just kill him. You had all 00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:20.599 like it was foggy on the ice. Nobody could see 00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:23.960 anything. But because he kept yelling at Matthias, 00:41:23.980 --> 00:41:26.320 he knew exactly where he was. So it's like, OK, 00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:27.920 cool. I'm just going to shoot in this general 00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.539 area. I can hear where he is. Perfect. Hopefully 00:41:30.539 --> 00:41:36.320 I kill him. And so he has the gun. He has like 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:40.860 Harry's down on his knee because he's been shot 00:41:40.860 --> 00:41:43.730 and he can't get out of the situation. And he 00:41:43.730 --> 00:41:46.349 keeps saying to Matthias, like, you're just so 00:41:46.349 --> 00:41:49.730 wrong for doing this. It's it's your fault. Your 00:41:49.730 --> 00:41:54.369 mother killed you or killed herself and just 00:41:54.369 --> 00:41:58.030 trying to drive him crazy. And basically, Matthias 00:41:58.030 --> 00:42:00.369 is just kind of like monologuing and saying how 00:42:00.369 --> 00:42:03.320 it's her fault and everything like that. And 00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:05.940 as he's monologuing, looking at Harry and getting 00:42:05.940 --> 00:42:08.139 ready to do the kill shot, of course he's not 00:42:08.139 --> 00:42:11.239 looking down at the hole in the ice that he falls 00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:15.900 in and can't find his way out of. So he drowns 00:42:15.900 --> 00:42:24.099 and freezes to death. And that's it. End of movie. 00:42:24.699 --> 00:42:29.760 Pretty much. The real end of it is Harry volunteers 00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:34.530 for the next killer case. And kind of like teasing 00:42:34.530 --> 00:42:36.670 that there would be a sequel if this movie actually 00:42:36.670 --> 00:42:42.289 was good. This is the dumbest way for a character 00:42:42.289 --> 00:42:46.550 to die. I just don't get it. Matthias had all 00:42:46.550 --> 00:42:50.929 of, and like this entire movie, what they've 00:42:50.929 --> 00:42:54.289 done is proven that Matthias is smart. Matthias 00:42:54.289 --> 00:42:57.349 is kind to the people that he's trying to like 00:42:57.349 --> 00:43:03.199 get into these situations. He's just, he's never 00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:09.639 had to rush anything. And so I don't get why 00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:12.940 all of a sudden he just blatantly falls into 00:43:12.940 --> 00:43:16.699 this ice because he's not paying attention and 00:43:16.699 --> 00:43:23.199 getting mad at Harry for no good reason. It just 00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:28.500 doesn't make sense to me. It's goofy. It's dumb. 00:43:28.619 --> 00:43:33.599 It's everything like that. So, I don't know. 00:43:33.619 --> 00:43:37.400 This movie, the book was just so much better. 00:43:37.500 --> 00:43:39.900 And I know everybody can say, oh, the book was 00:43:39.900 --> 00:43:41.599 better, the book was better, the book was better. 00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:45.519 This had a good story. And it could have been, 00:43:45.699 --> 00:43:49.039 well, the book did. And it could have easily 00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:53.079 translated to a movie. But it's like every time 00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:56.900 they tried to go one way with it, they went the 00:43:56.900 --> 00:44:04.829 wrong way with it. There's no reason with some 00:44:04.829 --> 00:44:06.630 of these things that they did what they did, 00:44:06.710 --> 00:44:10.769 and it was like, cool, all right. Why did you 00:44:10.769 --> 00:44:15.130 do that? You could have gone any other way. Some 00:44:15.130 --> 00:44:20.050 of the other things, Harry Hole was not likable, 00:44:20.090 --> 00:44:23.610 and that's one thing that really just bugged 00:44:23.610 --> 00:44:26.070 me the entire time was they try to make you pity 00:44:26.070 --> 00:44:28.980 this guy, and it just... There's never a point 00:44:28.980 --> 00:44:31.480 where he seems redeemable or seems likable that 00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:33.539 you're just kind of like, oh, yeah, cool. I like 00:44:33.539 --> 00:44:36.059 him. He's one note pretty much the entire time. 00:44:36.179 --> 00:44:38.860 The only time that I ever feel anything is when 00:44:38.860 --> 00:44:41.280 he's talking to Oleg. And even that he fucked 00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:44.000 up three times where it's like, OK, cool. He's 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.280 never going to change. So why are we even caring 00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:51.900 about this at this point? So Fassbender did fine 00:44:51.900 --> 00:44:55.639 with what he was given. A couple of things I'm 00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.059 seeing right now that I'm looking at it. The 00:44:58.059 --> 00:45:00.440 director basically said that the production was 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:04.400 too rushed. He came on board late. And 15 % of 00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.760 the screenplay, at least in his opinion, was 00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:12.039 never filmed. Including that some subplots were 00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:14.599 never finished or never resolved. Like J .K. 00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.159 Simmons, for example, just kind of disappears. 00:45:19.820 --> 00:45:22.000 So maybe that's why he felt like a suspect the 00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:24.099 entire time is because they just never finished 00:45:24.099 --> 00:45:27.019 the story. Maybe he did have more to this story 00:45:27.019 --> 00:45:32.820 that just never got made. The director also disowned 00:45:32.820 --> 00:45:36.159 it a week before his premiere, saying basically 00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:39.820 like this just doesn't work as a movie. And I 00:45:39.820 --> 00:45:45.239 mean, good for him, I guess. So let's also talk 00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:47.320 about the streak that Michael Fassbender was 00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:51.920 on before this. So in this time before this movie, 00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:59.059 he was in Assassin's Creed, Song to Song, Alien 00:45:59.059 --> 00:46:03.440 Covenant, this movie, and then he closed right 00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:06.480 after that two years later with Dark Phoenix. 00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:12.099 Michael Fassbender is a great actor. Like, really, 00:46:12.260 --> 00:46:14.599 he's a great actor. I don't think anybody would 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:19.449 disagree with that, right? How in the fuck does 00:46:19.449 --> 00:46:24.750 he have that bad a stretch in his life? How is 00:46:24.750 --> 00:46:27.489 he this bad at picking movies that he went from 00:46:27.489 --> 00:46:30.909 like Alien Covenant, which I get he was part 00:46:30.909 --> 00:46:33.429 of the Alien series. Okay, fine, whatever. Let's 00:46:33.429 --> 00:46:37.170 throw that one away. Assassin's Creed, The Snowman, 00:46:37.349 --> 00:46:41.539 and Dark Phoenix. And Dark Phoenix, again, there's 00:46:41.539 --> 00:46:43.340 another one that we can kind of throw away because 00:46:43.340 --> 00:46:46.420 he was part of that universe. But still, that 00:46:46.420 --> 00:46:53.860 and Apocalypse was before that as well. I just 00:46:53.860 --> 00:46:56.199 don't get it, man. I don't get how an actor like 00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:59.920 that has this streak in there. So, The Snowman. 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:03.719 I'll say the sins it commits is dumb ending for 00:47:03.719 --> 00:47:09.719 a villain. A main character no one loves. There's 00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:13.360 a million and a half cliches. There's 15 % of 00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:15.800 the script's missing. It was never filmed. So 00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:19.019 some of these characters just disappear, like 00:47:19.019 --> 00:47:21.420 J .K. Simmons, which is really disappointing 00:47:21.420 --> 00:47:23.119 because I think he was one of the better parts 00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:26.159 of this movie. Him and Oleg were the better parts 00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:29.579 of this movie. And Matthias was a likable character. 00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:35.420 And then I think they just tried for shock value 00:47:35.420 --> 00:47:38.840 on some of this where they killed Katrine. and 00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:41.880 they tried to make you feel sad for Val Kilmer 00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:46.619 which I did learn while doing this episode his 00:47:46.619 --> 00:47:49.719 lines were dubbed over so I was right about that 00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:51.960 and I'm willing to forgive that because it is 00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:53.800 Val Kilmer and because we know his story and 00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:55.440 everything like that I am willing to forgive 00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:59.219 that um it is a little rough when you're watching 00:47:59.219 --> 00:48:03.260 it because it's not a good dubbing and again 00:48:03.260 --> 00:48:06.309 if The directors write about this, which I have 00:48:06.309 --> 00:48:08.809 no reason to believe not. If this was a Rush 00:48:08.809 --> 00:48:11.690 production, basically it was kind of, cool, we 00:48:11.690 --> 00:48:13.670 have to do this. Sorry, this is what we got. 00:48:13.809 --> 00:48:19.150 This is it. You get this one shot. Val Kilmer 00:48:19.150 --> 00:48:21.590 did say in an Ask Me Anything that he was suffering 00:48:21.590 --> 00:48:24.369 from the cancer treatment, and he had a swollen 00:48:24.369 --> 00:48:26.510 tongue, so he could never do any of the lines. 00:48:27.530 --> 00:48:30.389 So that's why it was dubbed over. And I get it. 00:48:30.429 --> 00:48:35.869 I do. None of this is Val Kilmer's fault on that. 00:48:39.710 --> 00:48:44.090 It's tough because this was a really good book 00:48:44.090 --> 00:48:46.409 and because there's a lot of storylines that 00:48:46.409 --> 00:48:48.590 I feel like were left out because of the Rush 00:48:48.590 --> 00:48:51.449 production, because they needed to go back to 00:48:51.449 --> 00:48:53.449 London. They didn't film all of this in Norway. 00:48:53.590 --> 00:48:55.449 They filmed some of it in Norway, but they didn't 00:48:55.449 --> 00:48:57.050 film all of it because they needed to go back 00:48:57.050 --> 00:49:05.639 to London. i get it i see it and i go oh this 00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:07.619 was a rush production oh yeah okay that makes 00:49:07.619 --> 00:49:10.800 sense yeah yeah yeah i totally see that uh you're 00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:13.860 missing 15 of the script wow okay yeah that's 00:49:13.860 --> 00:49:16.599 that that makes sense and some of the trailer 00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:19.199 even apparently they filmed it but they cut it 00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:24.699 which happens but i think some of that is the 00:49:24.699 --> 00:49:27.159 reason why i was excited in the first place i 00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:32.650 was excited for this movie i really was um It 00:49:32.650 --> 00:49:36.469 just never coincided. It never got to that part. 00:49:37.590 --> 00:49:41.610 And can we also talk about Mr. Police? You could 00:49:41.610 --> 00:49:43.730 have saved her. I gave you all the clues in this 00:49:43.730 --> 00:49:48.090 sad -looking snowman. That also makes me laugh, 00:49:48.150 --> 00:49:50.750 the Mr. Police and stuff. I always found that 00:49:50.750 --> 00:49:52.889 funny because that's even what it says in the 00:49:52.889 --> 00:49:59.010 book. So it just makes me laugh sometimes seeing 00:49:59.010 --> 00:50:02.960 that and going, Mr. Police. And a lot of people, 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:04.719 when they were guessing what the bad movie was, 00:50:04.780 --> 00:50:06.579 when they finally figured out it was the snowman, 00:50:06.699 --> 00:50:09.579 there was a lot of jokes about Mr. Police and 00:50:09.579 --> 00:50:12.840 everything like that. So, uh, hello, Mr. Police. 00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:18.820 I hope you enjoyed the snowman. So yeah, I don't 00:50:18.820 --> 00:50:20.780 have much more to say about this movie. I gave 00:50:20.780 --> 00:50:22.920 you the entire plot of this thing, but basically 00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:30.599 it felt rushed. I get how they say that. This 00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:33.139 was a star -studded cast. It had such a better 00:50:33.139 --> 00:50:37.139 premise. And it just never got to that point. 00:50:37.179 --> 00:50:41.079 It never got to there. And the reveal was lame. 00:50:42.500 --> 00:50:46.199 It wasn't that surprising. It wasn't that thrilling. 00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:53.000 And finally, just to talk about it, the ending 00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:56.510 sucked. Plain and simple. It just was a miserable 00:50:56.510 --> 00:51:00.670 ending. I just don't believe it at all. And frankly, 00:51:00.829 --> 00:51:03.929 it suffers from one of the biggest sins, which 00:51:03.929 --> 00:51:06.489 is just a boring movie. And especially with a 00:51:06.489 --> 00:51:08.289 thriller where you want to keep people at the 00:51:08.289 --> 00:51:12.710 edge of their seat. I just wasn't. I never felt 00:51:12.710 --> 00:51:15.929 at the edge of my seat at all. I felt bored and 00:51:15.929 --> 00:51:20.409 confused at most points. So there you have it. 00:51:20.449 --> 00:51:23.429 That's The Snowman. I'm going to give it a... 00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:25.360 I think I'm going to give it a Mitchell zero 00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:32.780 half star. Um, I'm going to give it half a half 00:51:32.780 --> 00:51:36.320 a head on a snowman, I guess that that's the 00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:37.880 best way I can describe it. And that's probably 00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:40.739 better than this movie deserves, uh, for a rating 00:51:40.739 --> 00:51:46.500 system. But yeah, that's the snowman. Um, we're 00:51:46.500 --> 00:51:49.460 hoping to get another episode out next week with. 00:51:50.179 --> 00:51:53.099 Andre, Jill and I, that is a very much fingers 00:51:53.099 --> 00:51:57.860 crossed. Things have been happening in our lives, 00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:01.920 which are a lot of it's for the best. And so 00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:04.920 that's part of the reason why it's been so hard 00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:09.280 to get us together. I'll let them explain next 00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:12.699 week if they're on the show about the news they 00:52:12.699 --> 00:52:15.570 have, if they choose to. I'm not going to make 00:52:15.570 --> 00:52:17.869 them choose to tell people their news if they 00:52:17.869 --> 00:52:22.409 don't want to. But I will say that a lot of good 00:52:22.409 --> 00:52:28.449 changes are happening in their lives. So happy 00:52:28.449 --> 00:52:31.690 for them. And we're trying our best to get together. 00:52:31.809 --> 00:52:35.050 So until then, you have to deal with me. I hope 00:52:35.050 --> 00:52:37.250 you're okay with that because I like talking 00:52:37.250 --> 00:52:39.010 to you guys and I'm going to continue to do so 00:52:39.010 --> 00:52:43.000 no matter what happens. And so, yeah. That is 00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:44.500 the Game for a Movie podcast. I've been your 00:52:44.500 --> 00:52:46.900 host, Mike. It's Game for a Movie podcast where 00:52:46.900 --> 00:52:49.360 we ask, are you game for a movie? I'll see you 00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:52.039 next time, Mr. Police.