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Hello and welcome to the 15th, no, 15th, what?

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25th. Oh my god. Our very 25th special. That's

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right. Yeah, it's been a quarter of a hundred

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episodes. Wow. About a century, as someone would

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say from a movie slash musical. Okay. You said

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it, a movie slash musical. I'm not making it

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up. This is the Game for a Movie podcast. I am

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your host, Mike Butank. I am joined by... Andre.

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Jillian, or Jill. And Mitchell. Mitchell's calling

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in. That's the first time since quarantine started

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that I think we actually could point at people

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and everybody could say their name. It's great.

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It's good to see you guys. It's good to see you

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too. We have some great movies on tap, but also

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on tap, we have some beers that we are drinking.

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Oh, dude, I love the segue. You're just killing

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it today. Nailed it, man. What are you drinking,

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Andre? I am drinking the local bud from Firefly

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Hollow Brewing. Firefly Hollow. Right up the

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road, actually. Exactly. Very nice. Yes. And

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then I'm drinking the Super Duper Double Citra

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from Thomas Hooker, which is not right up the

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road. It is not right up the road. But it's close

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enough from where we live. It's CT grown. It's

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still delicious. Hartford based. Yes. Mitchell,

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what do you got over there? So I'm starting off

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the night with a little Blue Moon Belgian White,

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and then I'm going to transition over to a nice

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pour of Gentleman Jack. Oh, okay. A nice little

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whiskey to cap things off. All right. Is Blue

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Moon the one that you put an orange in, or is

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that only... Yes, that's the one, yeah. Mitchell,

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do you have an orange in there? I do not. I don't

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have any orange on me, unfortunately. I'm just

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drinking this right out the bottle. I'm an animal.

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What an animal. I am drinking Those Aren't Pillows,

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a pecan pie barley wine that is also a quote

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from one of my favorite Thanksgiving movies,

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which is Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. I have

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not seen that one. You haven't seen it either?

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I want to. Have you seen it? Nope. It's one of

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the few actual classic... Oh my god! I know.

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Mitchell, you haven't seen it either, right?

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No. Next watch party! yeah that's the thing it

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should be like a good movie watch party for us

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yeah right claire hasn't seen it either thanksgiving

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2021 it's john candy and steve martin and i love

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it because i love steve martin and we're going

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to earn our explicit rating this week because

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it also has the best use of fuck ever there's

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literally a scene where there is 17 of the word

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fuck. Matt Stone and Trey Parker would be proud.

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They would be very proud. It is also, it makes

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sense to the story and it's great. It's literally,

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I can't talk enough about this movie. I'm so

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disappointed that all of you have not seen this

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movie. We will fix it. We'll fix it. Okay. All

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right, one of these days we're going to watch

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it. But we have some other movies that we are

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going to talk about. Mitchell, we'll start with

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you, then I'll go, then Andre, and then our loser

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this week was Jill, who has a glorious movie

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to talk about. Oh, yeah. It is a thing. I hope

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you don't love furniture, because by the end

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of my little spiel, you will be afraid of it.

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Oh, my gosh. I am looking forward to this. So,

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Mitchell, get us started with what you watched

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this past time. Yeah, you know, on Friday, a

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Netflix episode upon its subscribers, a beautiful

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addition to what is, I think, one of the best

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directorial canons in modern movie history. David

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Fincher adding his next movie is Mank. Mank,

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I would say, right off the top. This is definitely

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a movie aimed right at the heart of film nerds.

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People who love Hollywood history have... A thing

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for old black and white movies at home, probably

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have HBO Max because of the Turner Classic Movies

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collection. And Make, for those who don't know,

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it's about the writing of the movie Citizen Kane.

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Never heard of it. Mainly from the academic circles

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in film, consider it the best movie of all time.

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I'm definitely not one of those guys. You should

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definitely watch it just because It's definitely

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a part and a huge part of American film history

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for sure. It was a story that Star directed and

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was co -written by Orson. The story about the

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co -writer with Orson and that was Herman Mankiewicz.

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Herman Mankiewicz is the screenwriter and is

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played by Gary Oldman in this movie. Before you

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continue. Can we get that last line again? Because

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you accidentally paused yourself. Yeah, it's

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like your friend didn't want to say the name.

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He's a problematic guy. Gary Oldman plays Herman

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Mankiewicz. That still wasn't the line we were

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trying for, but it's good enough. Orson Welles

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was the director. And that was the question I

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got wrong during our game. Yeah, that's right.

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That's the reason why we had to watch that movie.

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It's Orson Welles. Fuck you, Orson Welles! The

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big old fuck you to Orson Welles. Alright, so...

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Gary Oldman. Yeah, Gary Oldman is... I mean,

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this is a movie that stars long and is shot completely

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in black and white. And let me start with the

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good stuff to the criticism. The best part about

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this movie, in my mind, was all the technical

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things. So everything from how it was shot, all

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the scene transitions, how it was edited, the

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music by Trent Reznor, yet again, teaming up

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with David Fincher. Citizen Kane looked like.

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But really, it was these craftsmen, you know,

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in film, paying homage to that movie. And it's

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done very, very well. The only thing that was

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a little cheeky to me added the cue marks on

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the right -hand corner of the screen. You know,

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those circles that would come up in the film?

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Yeah, okay. Yeah. They added that, and, you know,

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to their credit, they added those about once

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every 15 minutes, which is when those would show

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up in real life. So even then, the attention

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to detail is there, and it's a David Fincher

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movie, so of course it is. Yeah, right. And then

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my all -time favorite performance this year,

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I would say, is Amanda Seyfried as Marion Davies.

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Wow. She is a dead ringer for Davies. Most people,

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you know, I was looking at all my favorite critics

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and their main takeaways. It's a very mixed review

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movie so far. But the thing that stands out the

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most in all these reviews is how much people

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love Amanda in this role. Would you say, just

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off the bat, Oscar performance winning? The thing

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is, there are so many movies that will end up

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being nominated. at this year's Oscars that simply

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have not been made available yet. But as of right

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now, yes. She kind of fits the bill. In my mind,

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any time you get a supporting character in there,

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kind of one of your roles in terms of if you

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want to go and win an Oscar, you have to be a

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steam sealer. And that's exactly what she has

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done in so many different scenes. Most notably,

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there is a walk in the park that she and Mank

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have essentially just spewing about. how they

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got to Hollywood and what their philosophies

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are and all that kind of stuff. Nice. Very, very

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great performance. Now to the bad stuff. Okay.

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This is a, this is a film that was written by

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Jack Fincher, who is David's late father. I believe

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he passed away in 2003. And this was a screenplay

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that had been, you know, written a long, long

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time ago. And so much. In fact, when, Venture

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was coming out to success, I believe it was either

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Seven or Fight Club, and Jack showed him the

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screenplays, like, what do you think? Not to

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say make it, but just genuinely to ask, hey,

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what do you think of this? And David says, I

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just don't see how this is going to speak to

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people. I don't see how this is a movie that

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could be for 2000 or 2001. Now, fast forward

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to 2020, a lot of the parts of the movie that

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end up answering that question, like, why now?

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The big reason of why now is this plot about

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Upton Sinclair running for the governorship of

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California. And the whole idea there is the politics

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game that kind of reflects what you see today

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about yellow and big media completely warping

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people's ideas of what is the truth. in an election

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and that i'm like okay so clearly there is some

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ideas at play here that simply was not in the

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forefront of anyone's mind back in 2000 right

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um all's to say that completely derails the movie

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this in my mind the best part of this movie is

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all the character -driven moments uh whether

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that's me confronting william randolph hearst

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um or you know it's them with Amanda Seyfried

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doing whatever the hell she wanted to do in this

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movie, and it was fantastic. I think the relationship

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between Mank and Lily Collins' character, Rita

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Alexander, is also very great. Lily was essentially

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the scribe for Mank as they were writing the

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script. So all these different moments and scenes

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ended up making for what I felt was a very warm

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reflection. And in kind of a weird way, a work

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of what Citizen Kane was, which is a reflection

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of a man's life. Right. And that's what we got

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there. But then you just have all this political

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stuff. And don't get me wrong. It was definitely

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hitting all the right notes for me in terms of,

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yes, that's true. Yes, that's bad in terms of

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the politics. But in terms of serving the story

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in the movie, it feels like they're aiming at

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too many different targets at the same time,

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which for David Fincher. sounds really off -brand.

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He's a very precise director. I'll say this.

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A lot of folks who I've read who love this movie

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have seen it at least three times. One of those

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ones is better on the re -watch? Yeah. It's a

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two -hour flick. The best part about Netflix,

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I have not re -watched the entire movie, but

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what I have done is gone back to certain scenes.

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One of my all -time favorites Favorite scenes,

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I think, is there's this great line, and it's

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in the trailer as well, where Louis B. Mayer

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is basically spewing out his philosophy on what

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the Hollywood industry is. And it's a great character

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introduction. It's him walking from his office

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over to a studio where he's about to let all

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the actors and crew members know that everyone's

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about to take a pay cut because this is during

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the Depression. On his way over there, he's kind

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of flexing in front of Mank, just showing how

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powerful he is. And he basically says the magic

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of movies isn't like any of the special effects

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or whatever. It's the fact that the product that

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people have is just the memory of what they watched.

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I still own the product. All they bought was

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the memory. And I think that is going to speak

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to a lot of the news that we're going to be talking

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about later with Warner Brothers and what they're

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doing. But to end this review, I would say there's

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a lot going on there. It's a heavy movie in terms

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of dissecting. Frankly, there's a lot that's

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hard to follow, but the character stuff is fantastic.

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The technical stuff is beautiful to look at.

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The music, I think, is fantastic. And Trent Reznor,

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from what I heard, he also did the score for

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Soul, which is the new Pixar movie coming out

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on Christmas. This is incredible to me that Trent

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Reznor, of all people, is doing all this. I actually

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was looking at his filmography. His first movie

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to do with social networks, which I thought it

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was. Good for him. Yeah. This is great. He's

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been nominated 65 times. He's only won one Oscar.

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I literally, I like Trent Reznor. It's just interesting

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to me to guess that he did all of this movie

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work. Sorry. Mitchell, I do have a question for

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you. Do you think that there is, I don't want

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to say director's cut because everyone is immediately

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going to think like the Snyder cut, but do you

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think that there is deleted scenes or an extended

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version of this film out there that might, when

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it gets a print release, either on Blu -ray or

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DVD, do you think that is, or do you think what

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you're seeing is the full film? No, so I think

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what we're seeing is the full film. I think with

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David, so, and I'm not even sure. life cycle

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for a movie is going to exist with netflix right

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because this is good this is living on the platform

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um so i think what we just saw is exactly um

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so as much as i say it feels unfocused for all

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the things that i read things become more clear

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and apparent the more you watch it which is to

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say uh watching movies should not be homework

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and you know i would rather have that great experience

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once and then be rewarded for all these different

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things but to understand the momentum of the

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characters and all that, that shouldn't be something

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that would be apparent on the second or third

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watch, in my opinion. And to read some notes

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too, Eric Roth, who's an Academy Award winning

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screenplay, or screenwriter, he worked on The

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Curious Case of Benjamin Button with David Fincher

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before, and he won his Oscar with Forrest Gump.

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He is listed as a producer on this film, but

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he was also a guy who Apparently it was someone

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who went over the script with David Fincher.

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Tried to give it some kind of modern touch, I

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guess you could say. Whatever in the past 20

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years would have been different. Yeah, so maybe,

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I don't know. It's tough to say, Joe. It's really

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tough to say. But I think this is the movie that

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Fincher wanted. Okay. So what would you give

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it as a review out of five? I'm giving it a solid

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three out of five. Okay. You know, for me, that

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is on the lower end of Fincher movies. I've yet

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to see Alien 3, though I think that would probably

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be the lowest. I think you're safe there. I somewhat

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forgot he did Alien 3. Holy moly. Did Fincher

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do Existence? Is that Fincher? I don't know.

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Which one? Existence? No, I don't believe so.

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I think it's the other David. That's the problem

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when you guys call in. I can't use my phone and

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look it up. No, so for me, David Fincher, you

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know, his version of Citizen Kane, ironically,

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I think it's called The Social Network and it

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came out 10 years ago. I would say that is his

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best movie. This is probably middle of the pack

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for me. But this is definitely also to say David

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Fincher's warmest movie. It feels like there

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is an actual human being and not this cold, calculated

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director doing a hundred different takes of the

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same scene just to get the body movements right.

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All right. So in all of that to say, three out

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of five, I'll say three out of five cue marks

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for me. Yeah, there you go. Where does seven

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fall on your list of David Fincher movies? Just

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because I think that's my number one. yeah that's

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at least top three okay yeah two or three i i

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love seven i can watch it anytime it's that movie

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when it's on television like yeah it's like oh

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hey seven is a good example of like not necessarily

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being homework but the viewer is rewarded rewarded

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yes that is a that is a really good movie to

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rewatch all the time for sure uh absolutely i

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guess i will jump in with the movie that i saw

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which is definitely not homework uh the movie

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i saw is called fat man okay We're going to talk

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about this movie just because it had such an

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impact on me. I rented this movie from iTunes

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and then realized I couldn't stream it to my

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TV, so I watched the entire thing on my phone

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on the couch. Wow, okay. It is about Santa Claus,

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played by Mel Gibson. Great. Mel Gibson, Mel

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Gibson? Yes, Mel Gibson, Mel Gibson. I don't

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know why my brain went to Mel Brooks and I was

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like... It is Mel Gibson. Yes, that Mel Gibson.

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And so, basically, the directors say they wanted

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to create a realistic Santa. So, for example,

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there's so many bad kids nowadays, they don't

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make as many presents, so they don't earn the

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money that they get from the government for creating

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Christmas. They created Christmas so that people

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would buy stuff for each other. Consumerism.

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Okay. But now there's so many bad kids, they

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have been giving more coal, so the consumerism

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has gone down. So the military gave them less

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money. Okay. Makes sense. In order to subsidize

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the money they're missing, for the first two

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months of the year, they signed Santa and Mrs.

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Claus, who's played by Marianne Jean -Baptiste,

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who's awesome in this movie. Okay, yeah. Give

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them to do a military contract where they build

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the panel for drones for the first two months.

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So the elves are building... Yep. Oh. Okay. And

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I'm telling you right now, this movie on paper

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is batshit crazy. Yep, yep. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed

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the hell out of it. And I hate how much I enjoyed

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this movie. Okay. Well, okay, so... But wait,

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there's more. Right. Oh, I got you right. You're

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starting to bite in. And then, oh, I'm going

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to pull you in because there's more. There's

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a 12 -year -old sadistic kid who gets coal. And

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he, of course, does the line. If you watch the

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trailer, he gets in the snow and, I'll get you

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for this, fat man! And name drop. Roll credits.

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Roll credits, right. Well, he is in touch. with

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an assassin. As you are, I'm 12 years old. Okay.

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Yes, he's been stealing money from his grandmother

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to get this assassin to basically, like, he got

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him to kidnap the girl who won the science fair

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and kill people that are just in his way. Okay.

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Psycho in the making. So he's already murdered

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people for this kid. Not murdered, but, like,

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accepts all this money to blackmail them. So,

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like, this science fair girl He basically said,

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you're going to say you cheated, and if you say

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anything, I'm going to come by, I'm going to

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kill your father, I'm going to kill your mother,

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I'm going to kill your dog. Okay. So he's already

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extorted people with this guy. Okay, got it.

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We haven't talked about the assassin. Right.

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It's Walton Goggins. Who? Walton Goggins. Okay.

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The guy who was in Justified by his principals.

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Oh, yeah, that guy. He's in Ant -Man and the

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Wasp. Yes, he's in... Oh, God. wasp he is an

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ant -man and the wasp he's the bad guy or one

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of the bad guys not ghost but he's like slick

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businessman that like not lawrence fishburne

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not lawrence fishburne exactly yes yeah no no

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he's he's like a secondary bad guy okay he works

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for somebody and like has this whatever um he's

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the assassin and basically he gets hired by the

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kid to find the fat man and bring his head Wow,

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Jesus Christ. This kid's getting work for the

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jugular. Yeah. It is an hour and 40 minutes.

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The first hour is fun and, like, wall craziness.

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The last 20 minutes is a shootout at the North

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Peak in Alaska. Okay. And they do the whole joke

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where, like, there's a sign that says North P.

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and then they zoom out, and it's North Peak,

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Alaska, and he follows his car moving in. Okay.

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So they do that joke, you know, and that kind

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of stuff. Yeah. And then the last 20 minutes

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is like a shootout between Santa, Walton Goggins,

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and Mrs. Claus. Good for Mrs. Claus getting in

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on the action. Yeah, right. Walton Goggins somehow

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kills, like, 40... soldiers that are there right

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so like is he like what's wong goggins's deal

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like is he just like a super trained assassin

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military guy an assassin that's always been like

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wanting he's wanted this job for forever okay

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because at the end as you learn uh he asked santa

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for one thing and never got it And that was new

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parents because his parents abused the shit out

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of him. And, like, he has, like, cigarette burns

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down his arm. Oh, okay. Wow. All right. Okay.

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That took a twist. That's a little bit of a heel

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turn, I guess. So you said it was an hour and

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40 minutes, and the first hour was great. The

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last 20 minutes were a shootout. What about those

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20 minutes? It goes 20 minutes too long. Oh,

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no. It's just a slow burn. I'm glad you did the

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math. It's just a slow burn 20 minutes. just

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like oh come on just get there there's a part

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where uh walton goggins has like a hamster that

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he cares about more than anything in the world

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and so like he goes to this store and the woman's

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like you don't hit me as a hamster person you

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do you want a snake do you want do you want to

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like a cold -blooded reptile and like it's just

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sitting there like oh we're just showing how

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cold he is and then he buys like all this hamster

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gear and puts it in his car so like the hamster

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is running around the car and like to stuff and

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wheel and and like it's it's a cute scene but

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it's so unnecessary but overall I really, I think

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it's going to be like a cult classic Christmas

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film. So would you, I guess, okay, that's the

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ultimate test. Would you watch this around Christmas

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time five years from now? Yes, I think I would.

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Okay. And I tweeted my friends about it because

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it just so happened to be a tweet about it. And

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I said, you know, Fat Man was like surprisingly

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good. Like I'd recommend it. The director commented

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and liked it. Oh, hey. Hey. But I didn't put

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hashtag fat man. I didn't do anything except

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for just write the words fat man was surprisingly

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good or like that kind of thing. But his social

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media aid was on that. And so he is all over

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this. Like everybody that puts fat man and social

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media on Twitter. Are we sponsored by Fat Man

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now? Are we sponsored by them? I don't know.

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But I might tag him in our Instagram post or

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Facebook post or something like that. Because

00:22:45.430 --> 00:22:48.069
he seems like a nice guy. Him and his brother

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wrote it and directed it. The trailer is ridiculous

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and looks like it's going to be the dumbest movie.

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Don't go in expecting Citizen Kane. Okay. Roger

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that. I don't think a lot of people do that.

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But like the six bucks I spent on it. Sure. I

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would watch it again. Was it a directorial debut

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or did the director have other things under his

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belt? Maybe. I don't know. I didn't look up that

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far. To the internet. Ian Nelms. N -E -L -M -S.

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And then it's his brother. I can't remember his

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name, but I just remember Ian Nelms. Um, but

00:23:21.589 --> 00:23:24.509
yeah, it's, it's ridiculous. It's goofy. Um,

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I will say that Santa gets shot in the eye, but

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somehow survives. Oh, okay. Well, you know, that's

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happened, I guess. Right. And then he comes back

00:23:33.069 --> 00:23:35.089
to the 12 year old kid and he's like, I know

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what you did. You better be good. Otherwise I'm

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coming for you next Christmas. Like that kind

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of line. But it's actually, it's Mel Gibson.

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Yeah. So it's kind of, kind of like, oh shit.

00:23:45.450 --> 00:23:47.730
Yeah. But we'll, we'll call this movie what it

00:23:47.730 --> 00:23:50.450
is. Military propaganda. Right. Christianity.

00:23:50.509 --> 00:23:55.450
Okay. And just a movie to be ridiculous with

00:23:55.450 --> 00:23:59.089
Santa Claus. That's what it is. Okay. He's done

00:23:59.089 --> 00:24:01.410
other things, the director. It's not his first

00:24:01.410 --> 00:24:03.630
film. Okay, I didn't think it was, but I just

00:24:03.630 --> 00:24:06.269
didn't... I can't say. It wouldn't have served

00:24:06.269 --> 00:24:09.170
me if it was his first film, too. But yeah, it's...

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Marion Jean -Baptiste is great. Walton Goggins,

00:24:12.710 --> 00:24:14.930
I love him. He's great in everything. I was kind

00:24:14.930 --> 00:24:17.809
of mad when I saw the trailer, going, oh, how

00:24:17.809 --> 00:24:21.500
far did he slide to have to do this movie? But

00:24:21.500 --> 00:24:23.980
really, it was worth it. It was pretty good.

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And then there's Mel Gibson, and it's a combination

00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:28.900
of his character from The Patriot and Santa Claus.

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I was about to say, is he channeling The Patriot?

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A little bit, yeah. All right. He always has

00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:37.160
to be a badass with a gun, I guess. Have you

00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:39.680
seen The Patriot? Yeah. Have you seen The Patriot?

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We're talking about the American history film.

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Oh, yes. I don't know. I think my memory of it

00:24:44.859 --> 00:24:47.299
is a little... A lot of musket reloading in that

00:24:47.299 --> 00:24:48.900
movie. A lot of musket reloading. I mean, like,

00:24:48.900 --> 00:24:50.619
we could also talk about, like, Braveheart, too.

00:24:50.660 --> 00:24:52.940
Yes, Braveheart. I love Braveheart. Yeah. It's

00:24:52.940 --> 00:24:56.000
very, like, he's trying to be an action, like,

00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:58.940
like, away from the action badass, is what I'd

00:24:58.940 --> 00:25:02.019
say. He's retired, but he still shoots his gun

00:25:02.019 --> 00:25:05.059
every now and then. If he needs to. Yeah. You

00:25:05.059 --> 00:25:07.339
know, so it's like it's trying to get away from

00:25:07.339 --> 00:25:09.359
this, but he always knew this day would come

00:25:09.359 --> 00:25:11.460
where someone would find him. So he needed to

00:25:11.460 --> 00:25:14.660
stay one step ahead. Retired but armed. Yes.

00:25:15.059 --> 00:25:17.819
Retired but armed. That's good. And I will also

00:25:17.819 --> 00:25:19.980
say that they do not understand the range of

00:25:19.980 --> 00:25:24.140
guns. Oh. Walton Goggins has like a machine gun

00:25:24.140 --> 00:25:27.440
and just has two pistols and they fire at the

00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:31.240
same range. So if you're a gun aficionado or

00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:34.000
an enthusiast, don't go into this movie expecting

00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:37.259
that they consulted gun experts for putting together

00:25:37.259 --> 00:25:39.779
the stuff. The only thing I will say is that

00:25:39.779 --> 00:25:44.380
there is a good job of when Walton Goggins reloads.

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You know how movies have the endless clip where

00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:49.799
it's just the hero has all these bullets, blah,

00:25:49.900 --> 00:25:54.420
blah, blah. Guns run out. They do a good job

00:25:54.420 --> 00:25:58.119
of they need to reload or whatever and like it's

00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:03.500
not like he's firing like over and over. He's

00:26:03.500 --> 00:26:06.200
like conserving it. He's that kind of stuff.

00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:12.559
But I will say I give it three and a half elves

00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:16.000
out of five. I didn't think to ask about the

00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:18.640
elves. Yeah, right. Oh, so are the elves... They

00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:21.039
have numbers. Okay. Not names. Are they humans?

00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:25.660
They're elves. They're short. They're human -esque

00:26:25.660 --> 00:26:29.019
looking. We're talking Will Ferrell's elf. Yeah,

00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:32.380
they're short elves. They're short humans, I

00:26:32.380 --> 00:26:35.039
mean. They're short humans. The only thing that's

00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:37.210
different is they have pointed ears. Okay. And

00:26:37.210 --> 00:26:39.589
then they wear bells on their shoes, which they

00:26:39.589 --> 00:26:43.269
did a scene when the military came in. They have

00:26:43.269 --> 00:26:45.349
a metal detector to make sure they're not. They

00:26:45.349 --> 00:26:47.589
had to cut the bells off their shoes. That's

00:26:47.589 --> 00:26:50.349
actually part of it. Wow. Yeah. I mean, it's

00:26:50.349 --> 00:26:52.490
cheesy. Attention to detail there. Like I said,

00:26:52.549 --> 00:26:55.210
it's a fun movie. It's stupid how fun it is,

00:26:55.269 --> 00:26:57.029
but it's fun. That's what you sometimes want

00:26:57.029 --> 00:26:58.910
in a film, stupid but fun. And that's exactly

00:26:58.910 --> 00:27:01.829
it. Watching it on my phone at one in the morning,

00:27:01.950 --> 00:27:05.690
it was exactly what I wanted. Hmm. Yeah. All

00:27:05.690 --> 00:27:08.930
right. Andre? Oh, okay. It's me. Yeah, it's you,

00:27:08.990 --> 00:27:14.009
buddy. So, Jill and I, just yesterday, we watched

00:27:14.009 --> 00:27:18.470
a supposedly Amazon original film, Uncle Frank.

00:27:18.670 --> 00:27:22.329
It actually premiered. It premiered at this year's

00:27:22.329 --> 00:27:24.529
Sundance back in January. But, yeah, Amazon picked

00:27:24.529 --> 00:27:26.930
it up, and I guess they put it up for Thanksgiving.

00:27:27.190 --> 00:27:31.250
So, yeah, I guess that lines up. Yeah. So, this

00:27:31.250 --> 00:27:34.650
is a, I guess I call it a drama. Film starring

00:27:34.650 --> 00:27:39.930
Paul Bettany. It is... I guess I should just

00:27:39.930 --> 00:27:41.950
give you the high -level synopsis of it. Yeah.

00:27:42.190 --> 00:27:44.109
Wait, what was that face you just made, Mitchell?

00:27:46.789 --> 00:27:49.109
Uh -oh. He muted himself. He's looking at something

00:27:49.109 --> 00:27:55.019
else. We caught him. We caught him. Yeah! I'm

00:27:55.019 --> 00:27:59.180
knocking out some Christmas shopping. Well, let's

00:27:59.180 --> 00:28:01.099
talk of Christmas. Really put him in the mood

00:28:01.099 --> 00:28:06.900
for consumerism. Oh, shit. I knew we caught you

00:28:06.900 --> 00:28:10.740
doing something. Oh, shit. I gotta flip my...

00:28:10.740 --> 00:28:13.220
I should have just had like a picture of his

00:28:13.220 --> 00:28:24.150
face. Yeah! Okay, so Uncle Frank. Okay, cool.

00:28:24.390 --> 00:28:26.630
I'll just give you the high -level synopsis.

00:28:26.750 --> 00:28:32.809
This is a film about an uncle, a family that

00:28:32.809 --> 00:28:37.089
is from South Carolina. This is in the late 70s,

00:28:37.089 --> 00:28:44.670
right? Early 70s. 1973. Cool. The narrator character

00:28:44.670 --> 00:28:50.349
is an 18 -year -old girl named Beth. It's basically...

00:28:51.069 --> 00:28:53.130
her kind of recounting the story of how she got

00:28:53.130 --> 00:28:56.170
to know her uncle frank so it starts out with

00:28:56.170 --> 00:28:58.589
her just like showing around like they're what

00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:03.960
Nothing? This seems like it's taking a dark turn.

00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.180
No, it's not dark at all. This is a feel -good

00:29:07.180 --> 00:29:10.759
film. I guess you should say from the top this

00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:12.279
is going to sound pretty scathing, but this is

00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:15.660
like a hallmark movie for gay people, basically.

00:29:15.980 --> 00:29:18.779
With a nice Hollywood budget. Yes, that's true.

00:29:18.900 --> 00:29:22.349
A well -produced, well -acted... Gay Hallmark

00:29:22.349 --> 00:29:26.150
film. Okay. So yeah, anyway. So Beth is our main

00:29:26.150 --> 00:29:29.029
character. She's narrating. She's introducing

00:29:29.029 --> 00:29:31.309
us to her quaint, small town, South Carolina

00:29:31.309 --> 00:29:34.049
life. And she talks about how every once in a

00:29:34.049 --> 00:29:35.650
blue moon, like whenever there's a big family

00:29:35.650 --> 00:29:37.730
get together, her Uncle Frank, who moved to New

00:29:37.730 --> 00:29:40.009
York City a few years ago, will come and visit.

00:29:40.170 --> 00:29:42.869
And he was always his favorite because he's always

00:29:42.869 --> 00:29:45.509
so different. He's more refined. He's the only

00:29:45.509 --> 00:29:47.490
one who actually takes interest in what she has

00:29:47.490 --> 00:29:50.450
to say. They immediately kind of, like they show

00:29:50.450 --> 00:29:52.519
that, they have this kind of deeper connection,

00:29:52.660 --> 00:29:55.640
where, you know, so Uncle Frank is played by

00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:58.859
Paul Bettany, and he kind of is the first person

00:29:58.859 --> 00:30:01.599
to say, like, hey, like, be who you are, be who

00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:03.400
you want to be, don't let anybody else tell you

00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:05.960
what to be, kind of lets her, really kind of,

00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:08.059
like, nudges her to have her own awakening of

00:30:08.059 --> 00:30:10.240
her self -worth, and so far as, like, she's,

00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.480
I think, what was her, like, she was Betsy, I

00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:13.880
think, was her original name? Yeah, Elizabeth's

00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:15.319
her full name, but everyone called her Betsy.

00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:17.319
Everyone called her Betsy, and he's like, well,

00:30:17.380 --> 00:30:19.599
like, What do you want? Betty. Betty. It was

00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:21.140
Betty. Right. And he's like, well, who do you

00:30:21.140 --> 00:30:22.660
want to be? Who do you want to be? Right. What

00:30:22.660 --> 00:30:25.559
kind of name do you want for yourself? Liz? Whatever.

00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:28.960
I had a moment like that when I was a kid because

00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.799
I was Mikey. Right. Forever. Yeah. You know,

00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:33.859
and, like, when I was sick and done with it,

00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.380
I had a cousin, or a great cousin, that I basically

00:30:37.380 --> 00:30:38.960
said, like, don't call me Mikey. And she goes,

00:30:39.099 --> 00:30:40.200
what do you want me to call you? And I was like,

00:30:40.299 --> 00:30:42.579
I don't care, just not Mikey. She still calls

00:30:42.579 --> 00:30:45.420
me Stan to this day. You know, it's like that

00:30:45.420 --> 00:30:47.940
kind of thing. But, yes, I get that. Yeah. And

00:30:47.940 --> 00:30:50.579
it's kind of a good, it's a good scene to really

00:30:50.579 --> 00:30:53.180
win because I like the kind of the, chemistry's

00:30:53.180 --> 00:30:54.559
not the right word, but, like, immediately you

00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:56.980
kind of buy into the connection that Paul Bettany

00:30:56.980 --> 00:31:00.180
has with this girl and that, you know, she, She's,

00:31:00.180 --> 00:31:02.779
you know, staying up for herself. works hard

00:31:02.779 --> 00:31:04.960
enough at school to get, go to NYU where he's

00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:07.259
a professor at. So he, she's like, you know,

00:31:07.259 --> 00:31:09.640
leaving the small town life to go to the big

00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.480
city along with her, her uncle, right? Yeah.

00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:15.240
Uh, so you immediately can tell that, I mean,

00:31:15.259 --> 00:31:17.059
obviously like the, the byline here is that,

00:31:17.099 --> 00:31:19.900
you know, uncle Frank, he's gay, he's, he's gay

00:31:19.900 --> 00:31:22.220
and he belongs, he's, he's from a South Carolina,

00:31:22.299 --> 00:31:24.859
like a family from South Carolina in the early

00:31:24.859 --> 00:31:26.900
seventies. You kind of guess how that would go

00:31:26.900 --> 00:31:28.299
over and you see immediately, they immediately

00:31:28.299 --> 00:31:29.960
show you the tension. I think they were there

00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:34.059
for, um, the main beth's grandpa's birthday okay

00:31:34.059 --> 00:31:36.140
and like he's opening presents he opens one from

00:31:36.140 --> 00:31:38.900
from from uncle frank and obviously it's like

00:31:38.900 --> 00:31:40.619
why the fuck did you give me this like this is

00:31:40.619 --> 00:31:44.160
dumb blah whatever you know so okay like like

00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:48.180
i so yes uh i would say like i'll just go through

00:31:48.180 --> 00:31:50.599
the first like 20 ish minutes just high level

00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:53.019
and you and you'll probably be able to get the

00:31:53.019 --> 00:31:55.019
rest of the movie, what happens from there, right?

00:31:55.259 --> 00:31:58.420
So Beth goes to New York, goes to college, you

00:31:58.420 --> 00:32:03.259
know, through a few blunders, ends up at, uninvited

00:32:03.259 --> 00:32:06.180
to a party that Frank is throwing for his colleagues,

00:32:06.299 --> 00:32:07.960
like, you know, whatever, his various colleagues,

00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:11.259
right? And that's where, basically, she has her

00:32:11.259 --> 00:32:14.279
first drink, she gets super drunk, passes out,

00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:16.619
well, starts getting sick, Frank has to take

00:32:16.619 --> 00:32:18.740
care of her, and that's how Frank kind of has

00:32:18.740 --> 00:32:21.759
to come out to her, because it's at Frank's...

00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:26.140
apartment where he lives with his partner. Hiding

00:32:26.140 --> 00:32:28.619
from the family and everything. Obviously, Beth,

00:32:28.740 --> 00:32:31.079
being the young 18 -year -old open -minded girl

00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:32.579
that she is, is cool with it, is immediately

00:32:32.579 --> 00:32:35.539
happy that she has this shared secret -ish with

00:32:35.539 --> 00:32:38.420
Frank. And then the shoe drops that it's the

00:32:38.420 --> 00:32:40.640
next morning, she's nursing her hangover, we're

00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:43.039
getting to meet Wally, Frank's partner, who we

00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.339
love. We love Wally. I should say that everything

00:32:45.339 --> 00:32:47.480
about this movie, it's very well acted. That's

00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:49.299
probably the best part about it, is that it has

00:32:49.299 --> 00:32:52.029
a great cast, and it's well acted. and i'm endeared

00:32:52.029 --> 00:32:54.650
to the characters um so yeah we're hanging out

00:32:54.650 --> 00:32:56.450
and it's oh it's great woo like how we're gonna

00:32:56.450 --> 00:32:58.809
break to the family you know wally's musing about

00:32:58.809 --> 00:33:01.190
how oh i just wish i could meet your family and

00:33:01.190 --> 00:33:02.750
frank is like oh of course you can never meet

00:33:02.750 --> 00:33:04.609
my family you know why it's gonna be terrible

00:33:04.609 --> 00:33:07.170
they can never find out yada yada yada the shoe

00:33:07.170 --> 00:33:12.730
drops frank's dad uh grandpa mac grandpa grandpa

00:33:12.730 --> 00:33:15.660
what mac Mac, yes, Big Mac, who's played by Steven

00:33:15.660 --> 00:33:16.920
Root, who I love. I love seeing him in everything.

00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:20.099
He suddenly dies of a heart attack, and they

00:33:20.099 --> 00:33:24.289
have to go back to the funeral. Wally insists

00:33:24.289 --> 00:33:26.490
that he wants to go to be there to support Frank.

00:33:26.670 --> 00:33:28.210
And then obviously Frank is like, no, that's

00:33:28.210 --> 00:33:30.809
a bad idea. Don't go. It'll just be me and Beth.

00:33:31.250 --> 00:33:33.289
Yada, yada, yada. They go on a little road trip.

00:33:33.430 --> 00:33:35.910
Of course, Wally tails them behind. And it's

00:33:35.910 --> 00:33:38.529
like, oh, he tagged along anyways. Wally, you

00:33:38.529 --> 00:33:39.869
rascal. Because he forgot his tie. Because he

00:33:39.869 --> 00:33:42.970
forgot Frank's tie. And it's like, oh, you rascal,

00:33:42.970 --> 00:33:47.250
Wally. I guess you'll just come along. And, you

00:33:47.250 --> 00:33:50.049
know, you get these little conversations with

00:33:50.049 --> 00:33:52.470
Beth, like trying to figure out more about Frank.

00:33:52.549 --> 00:33:54.460
Like, okay, like, when did you realize you, like,

00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:56.819
the obvious questions a kid would ask, you know,

00:33:56.819 --> 00:33:59.119
still learning about, like, gay culture, essentially,

00:33:59.180 --> 00:34:01.220
like, okay, when did you find out you were gay?

00:34:01.299 --> 00:34:02.779
And learning about herself, too. Yes, obviously,

00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:05.339
yes, exactly, because she's also still very much

00:34:05.339 --> 00:34:07.779
that she hasn't, I would say, not sexually blossomed

00:34:07.779 --> 00:34:09.639
yet, I suppose, right? Yes, and it's depicted

00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:13.820
as a choice slash when, at the beginning of the

00:34:13.820 --> 00:34:16.920
film, Uncle Frank tells her, you know, don't

00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:19.139
waste your time on boys, you're smart, you could

00:34:19.139 --> 00:34:21.500
go to college if you wanted. He even tells her,

00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.239
and I think it's a four -year, It's a four -year

00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:26.639
gap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like 1969. And

00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:28.760
in the first 10 minutes in 1969, he tells her,

00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:30.360
you know, if you ever need an abortion, don't

00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:31.780
call your family, you call me. Well, it's more

00:34:31.780 --> 00:34:33.800
like if you have, he phrases it like, if you

00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:36.280
ever find, he was making fun of his, he was making

00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:38.460
fun of her cousin who was knocked up and was

00:34:38.460 --> 00:34:39.840
like, well, if you ever find yourself knocked

00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:41.219
up, talk to me. If you ever need birth control,

00:34:41.340 --> 00:34:43.179
I'm your first call. If you ever need to tell

00:34:43.179 --> 00:34:45.800
a guy, I'm your first call. Which is like, wow,

00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.260
it's 1969 and you're just telling this 14 -year

00:34:49.260 --> 00:34:51.940
-old girl that don't throw your life away, essentially,

00:34:52.019 --> 00:34:53.920
for a stupid boy. And that conversation kind

00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:55.519
of plants the seeds for this relationship between

00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:57.679
Beth and I wish the movie kind of focused a bit

00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.619
more on. So I guess, whatever. So basically,

00:35:00.739 --> 00:35:03.719
it's alluded to that Frank has this tragic past

00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:06.139
about how his first love and all that stuff.

00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:10.190
And I feel like I can just, like... You could

00:35:10.190 --> 00:35:12.909
probably just fill in the blanks with the rest

00:35:12.909 --> 00:35:14.710
of the movie about how that's all going to go

00:35:14.710 --> 00:35:18.210
down. And that's kind of my biggest thing with

00:35:18.210 --> 00:35:20.329
this movie is that none of the plot is very surprising.

00:35:20.610 --> 00:35:24.050
It's not very challenging. I will say what happens

00:35:24.050 --> 00:35:26.829
at the funeral with the will reading was we were

00:35:26.829 --> 00:35:28.989
joking saying it's not like they're not going

00:35:28.989 --> 00:35:33.309
to do that. Yes, that's true. Grandpa Mac is...

00:35:33.579 --> 00:35:36.079
a petty bastard until to the end essentially

00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:39.860
yes basically he outs uncle frank at the yes

00:35:39.860 --> 00:35:42.159
at the will reading at the will reading i outs

00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:44.880
uncle frank that's the big like well um yeah

00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:48.159
and it's you know in the moment it was it was

00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:50.880
it's well acted like i said before uh it hits

00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:53.159
all those emotional beats you know it i it hits

00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:55.119
you right in the feels and it's a feel good movie

00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:56.619
there's like there's emotional highs emotional

00:35:56.619 --> 00:36:00.079
lows but after i finished it it's like okay Yeah,

00:36:00.099 --> 00:36:02.000
I don't know. Don't need to go back. Like, everything's

00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:03.579
kind of wrapped up in a neat, nice little bow.

00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:06.139
It's not, yeah. Which, I mean, like, it follows

00:36:06.139 --> 00:36:08.739
with your description of it as a hallmark movie

00:36:08.739 --> 00:36:11.639
for gay couples. Yes. And I would say that the

00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:15.599
framing character, Beth, who I didn't look up

00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:20.460
her name, she played Beverly in It, the child

00:36:20.460 --> 00:36:22.639
actress. Oh, okay, yeah. Which is very, very

00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:26.300
good. It's almost not fair that the script does

00:36:26.300 --> 00:36:27.659
not give Dew more of a character. Basically kind

00:36:27.659 --> 00:36:30.829
of forgets about her. She's not a plot device,

00:36:30.929 --> 00:36:33.269
because the plot device is the funeral, or the

00:36:33.269 --> 00:36:35.789
grandpa dying in the funeral. She's more like,

00:36:35.929 --> 00:36:39.449
I'm pushing the plot along, and then once they

00:36:39.449 --> 00:36:41.550
get on the road back to South Carolina for the

00:36:41.550 --> 00:36:43.949
funeral, she effectively disappears into the

00:36:43.949 --> 00:36:45.969
background, and we never really get anything

00:36:45.969 --> 00:36:49.030
about her. It basically focuses entirely on Frank's

00:36:49.030 --> 00:36:51.849
estranged relationship with his father. I get

00:36:51.849 --> 00:36:54.289
that. And it sucks because, like, child roles

00:36:54.289 --> 00:36:56.130
sometimes are written that way where it's just

00:36:56.130 --> 00:36:59.449
like, okay, you're just here until we don't really

00:36:59.449 --> 00:37:01.969
need you anymore. A little bit. Yeah. And she's

00:37:01.969 --> 00:37:04.469
not even a, you know, a little plot moppet. She's

00:37:04.469 --> 00:37:06.869
an 18 -year -old woman. A plot moppet. And we

00:37:06.869 --> 00:37:09.309
don't really know much about her. We don't know

00:37:09.309 --> 00:37:11.730
why. Why did she choose NYU? What does she want

00:37:11.730 --> 00:37:14.489
to, like, who? We know that she can be whoever

00:37:14.489 --> 00:37:16.289
she wants to be, but we don't know who that is.

00:37:16.389 --> 00:37:18.630
Right. It would have been nice if we had gotten

00:37:18.630 --> 00:37:22.420
a bit more of that because. with such a character

00:37:22.420 --> 00:37:27.300
-driven piece, she's very weak. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:30.179
So, I mean, I don't know. It's not like I'm being

00:37:30.179 --> 00:37:32.980
harsh on it. I did really like it, but I would

00:37:32.980 --> 00:37:34.760
say all of the interesting parts kind of happen.

00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.239
All the plot threads that open up in the beginning

00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:39.340
aren't really followed through on once you realize

00:37:39.340 --> 00:37:41.420
halfway through, like, okay, this movie's going

00:37:41.420 --> 00:37:43.699
to be about this now. Let's face it. We've done

00:37:43.699 --> 00:37:46.380
enough movies. We can say at this point, a movie

00:37:46.380 --> 00:37:50.030
can be enjoyable, but also... mundane yes a little

00:37:50.030 --> 00:37:53.570
bit yeah i would say the the wally wally and

00:37:53.570 --> 00:37:55.889
frank's relationship keeps it from being mundane

00:37:55.889 --> 00:37:58.090
because yeah right it's never boring to watch

00:37:58.090 --> 00:37:59.789
like it's too well acted the characters are too

00:37:59.789 --> 00:38:01.829
endearing to to be like i was never i guess mundane

00:38:01.829 --> 00:38:04.210
was the wrong choice but like it could be it's

00:38:04.210 --> 00:38:06.230
right no that's a really good way to describe

00:38:06.230 --> 00:38:10.570
it this is a very paint by numbers yeah historic

00:38:11.949 --> 00:38:14.469
coming out and it never it's there's no gray

00:38:14.469 --> 00:38:16.690
like there's really no gray morality where it's

00:38:16.690 --> 00:38:18.329
like it's like there are people the characters

00:38:18.329 --> 00:38:21.110
are either totally okay or written to be framed

00:38:21.110 --> 00:38:23.329
totally okay with being with homosexuality totally

00:38:23.329 --> 00:38:26.090
okay or they're totally against it and like oh

00:38:26.090 --> 00:38:27.829
gosh no time too because it comes in the last

00:38:27.829 --> 00:38:29.730
20 minutes right yeah and there's no there's

00:38:29.730 --> 00:38:32.650
no really exploration of people who are who are

00:38:32.650 --> 00:38:34.510
meaning well but are actually problematic and

00:38:34.510 --> 00:38:36.750
so far as all that goes like it's just a do you

00:38:36.750 --> 00:38:39.150
accept sexuality or do you not right well that's

00:38:39.150 --> 00:38:42.460
it That's tough. That's tough to watch in a movie,

00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:47.340
too. I feel like with gay movies, and I mean

00:38:47.340 --> 00:38:51.119
that in quotes, like gay movies, you have to

00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.119
either love them, hate them, there's no in -between,

00:38:54.300 --> 00:38:59.320
versus you can get more deep with it. I don't

00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:01.719
think I've ever seen a movie that deals with

00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:05.079
gay people that are just like... they're just

00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:08.059
gay. Like it's not, it's not drummed up for character.

00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:10.340
Right. Yeah. It's like that. Yeah. It was, there

00:39:10.340 --> 00:39:13.119
was no like eyeopening moment of like, Oh, I

00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:14.699
didn't even know that that's what that was like

00:39:14.699 --> 00:39:16.179
or whatever. You know, it's just like, okay,

00:39:16.219 --> 00:39:18.280
no, this is going to go. All right. That's how

00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:21.960
it went. From like a historian, not that I'm

00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:23.760
a historian, but from a history person's perspective,

00:39:23.940 --> 00:39:28.460
it's set in 1973. The, the, the, the costumes

00:39:28.460 --> 00:39:30.940
and the music are fantastic. You really feel

00:39:30.940 --> 00:39:35.119
like you're there, but, It's almost kind of interesting

00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:39.699
that they skirt over being gay. They go into

00:39:39.699 --> 00:39:41.579
the Bible side, because South Carolina religious

00:39:41.579 --> 00:39:43.900
family, being gay is a sin. But they don't have

00:39:43.900 --> 00:39:47.059
larger ramifications. There's a five -minute

00:39:47.059 --> 00:39:49.260
plot beat where they're more concerned about

00:39:49.260 --> 00:39:51.039
getting caught with having marijuana, because

00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.760
that's illegal, than discussing the ramifications

00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:56.780
of their sexuality being known to the public.

00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:02.000
I know this movie's not trying to have a socialist

00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:06.360
agenda. But they made a point to set it in this

00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.099
time period. And I read that it's based on the

00:40:09.099 --> 00:40:14.519
director's own family experiences. But, you know,

00:40:14.539 --> 00:40:18.760
it's a very sanitized movie. Yes, sanitized is

00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:22.079
a good way to put it. Which is fair. Yeah. After

00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:23.860
all that, I don't know. It sounded pretty negative,

00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:25.960
but still, I think it's worth watching. It's

00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:27.820
a good movie you didn't have to pay to see. I

00:40:27.820 --> 00:40:31.039
give it three Jack Daniels nibs out of five.

00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:34.699
okay oh yeah there's a lot of checking on the

00:40:34.699 --> 00:40:37.260
movie yeah we're we're we're on a roll of threes

00:40:37.260 --> 00:40:41.920
like yeah i gave it 3 .5 threes yeah and so that's

00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:44.840
that's exactly the transition jill i appreciate

00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:48.539
that you caught that uh you Lost our trivia challenge,

00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.699
which we played Sporkle Party, which was great

00:40:51.699 --> 00:40:53.739
because we could play it from wherever. Hashtag

00:40:53.739 --> 00:40:55.519
Sporkle Party. Yeah, I'm going to give them a

00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:56.920
shout out because they also liked our Instagram

00:40:56.920 --> 00:41:00.420
and commented. That's great. But yeah, so we

00:41:00.420 --> 00:41:03.539
played a Sporkle Party and we all were close

00:41:03.539 --> 00:41:05.880
at the end, except for Mitchell who got that

00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:10.539
question. Was that the Terminator question? That

00:41:10.539 --> 00:41:12.239
was another one. No, it was the final question.

00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:15.360
I think it was the Orson Welles question. Yeah.

00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:19.960
It was, um, no, it was... Who played, uh, two

00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:22.559
characters, or two people played the same character

00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:27.579
in the same year? Ah, yes, that was the... You

00:41:27.579 --> 00:41:32.619
said it. Yep. What was it? Yes, it was, um, yeah,

00:41:32.739 --> 00:41:37.860
it was, um, uh, Hopkins and... Huh? Yeah, it

00:41:37.860 --> 00:41:39.239
was the other one, but I'd say Anthony Hopkins.

00:41:39.460 --> 00:41:40.800
It was like, it was Alfred Shkronk was playing

00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:43.719
a pick. Yeah. I think it was Toby Jones was the

00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:45.699
other one. Yeah, Toby Jones, that's it. Yeah.

00:41:46.900 --> 00:41:50.519
So, yeah. We're close. So, Jill, you lost. I

00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:54.960
did. Lost, I did. So, in honor of having to watch

00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:59.360
a very bad movie, I went to my first gut reaction,

00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:01.860
which was a film a friend recommended called

00:42:01.860 --> 00:42:05.380
Killer Soap. So, I've known about it for a long

00:42:05.380 --> 00:42:07.179
time. Off to a great start. For those who are

00:42:07.179 --> 00:42:10.360
curious, it currently has a 3 .5 out of 10 on

00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:15.679
IMDb. This is a New Zealand picture. It wasn't

00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:17.940
even on Rotten Tomatoes when we were talking

00:42:17.940 --> 00:42:20.239
about it. It's not on Rotten Tomatoes. I tried

00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:22.239
and looked everywhere. I could not find any budget

00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:25.179
information. All I really knew about this film

00:42:25.179 --> 00:42:28.820
going into it is that Jed Broffy, who is a frequent

00:42:28.820 --> 00:42:30.940
collaborator with Peter Jackson, he appears in

00:42:30.940 --> 00:42:34.079
Lord of the Rings, and he is Nori, the starfish

00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:37.800
dwarf in The Hobbit. I was excited to show up

00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:41.460
for Jed. You're here for Jed. You're here for

00:42:41.460 --> 00:42:45.650
Jed. All I knew is that it is about... You know

00:42:45.650 --> 00:42:47.429
what? How about I just read you the one sentence

00:42:47.429 --> 00:42:51.349
from IMDb? A killer reclining chair becomes enchanted

00:42:51.349 --> 00:42:53.449
by a girl and starts hitting crimes of passion.

00:42:54.070 --> 00:42:55.929
So I'm going to just admit something right off

00:42:55.929 --> 00:42:57.230
the bat. Yeah, you got the last word right. Passion.

00:42:57.489 --> 00:42:59.030
I'm going to just admit something right off the

00:42:59.030 --> 00:43:01.969
bat here. It is not a sofa. No. It is a reclining

00:43:01.969 --> 00:43:03.010
chair. It's a reclining chair. It's singular.

00:43:03.030 --> 00:43:05.670
A lazy boy. One person can fit on that. It's

00:43:05.670 --> 00:43:08.030
like Tsunami, where you need to have wasps. Yeah.

00:43:08.030 --> 00:43:10.730
Yeah, okay. So false advertising. So we're already

00:43:10.730 --> 00:43:13.489
starting off on a lie. Yeah. Next, let me just

00:43:13.489 --> 00:43:17.460
share with you. an image of said killer sofa.

00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:19.519
You're going to put it over the phone for Mitchell

00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:21.880
to see. I personally am comparing it to a grumpy

00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:28.900
photo of Bert the Muppet. There you go. You're

00:43:28.900 --> 00:43:32.360
not angled at it right. Oh, God. It's bad. You

00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:38.840
could just Google it yourself. Oh, no. They put

00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:41.039
a face on it. You can tell that there is a face.

00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:45.139
I'll run you through really quick. overview of

00:43:45.139 --> 00:43:46.940
the play. It starts off with a dude committing

00:43:46.940 --> 00:43:51.400
a murder in a space we don't exactly where, and

00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:53.300
there is a reclining chair looming in the background.

00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:56.340
The next day, said chair is being delivered to

00:43:56.340 --> 00:43:58.880
our main character, whose name I already forgot.

00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:04.119
Oh my gosh, yeah. Francesca, who has her whole

00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:06.360
life has had this weird effect on men, where

00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:08.559
they effectively become obsessed with her, although

00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:12.239
she says dedicated. So she gets this chair, she...

00:44:13.150 --> 00:44:15.909
you know, is very excited about the murder happened.

00:44:16.150 --> 00:44:19.750
Duffy as Detective Bob Gravy and his kick, Detective

00:44:19.750 --> 00:44:22.849
Grape. Grape and Grape. They're trying to figure

00:44:22.849 --> 00:44:24.750
out what happened to the guy who got murdered

00:44:24.750 --> 00:44:27.789
who was Francesca's ex -boyfriend named Frederico.

00:44:28.050 --> 00:44:30.869
They couldn't even wait. They went with G -R

00:44:30.869 --> 00:44:34.590
-A and then whatever vegetable Gravy. So they're

00:44:34.590 --> 00:44:35.989
trying to figure out what happened to Frederico

00:44:35.989 --> 00:44:38.250
who was the guy being murdered at the beginning.

00:44:40.010 --> 00:44:44.000
Shenanigans is about... Third plot is there is

00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.860
a rather chubby former rabbi and his friend who

00:44:46.860 --> 00:44:49.380
are demon hunters. This is never set up. You're

00:44:49.380 --> 00:44:51.360
watching a dude on YouTube talking about a demon.

00:44:51.460 --> 00:44:53.300
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the rabbi's watching YouTube

00:44:53.300 --> 00:44:55.440
videos. Former rabbi. Former rabbi. Former rabbi.

00:44:55.659 --> 00:44:58.940
He's not actively a rabbi. Come on, Andre. We

00:44:58.940 --> 00:45:02.039
all got this. So we've got murder, a new running

00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:06.380
chair, demons. The rest of the film is French.

00:45:06.460 --> 00:45:08.920
I'm getting really frustrated. Yeah, right. She

00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:12.940
basically has sex with it. Somehow? Foreplay.

00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:17.880
Yes. She's chair foreplay. She pulls his lever

00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:21.030
a lot. Oh, alright. I was just like, how does

00:45:21.030 --> 00:45:26.030
this work? It's a reclining chair. The worst

00:45:26.030 --> 00:45:30.630
part is my mind went to a guy doing a sofa. And

00:45:30.630 --> 00:45:32.510
I was just like, okay, at least I can do it.

00:45:32.570 --> 00:45:35.809
This is a recliner. Well, she's just taking a

00:45:35.809 --> 00:45:37.969
nap. She's not taking a nap. She's feeling it.

00:45:38.050 --> 00:45:43.050
Does it have a vibrate feature? They established

00:45:43.050 --> 00:45:45.070
that very, very quickly that the sentient is

00:45:45.070 --> 00:45:48.179
watching her and And she's living with her boyfriend

00:45:48.179 --> 00:45:51.000
and it starts committing murders. It kills her

00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.599
boyfriend. It kills her stalker. Because remember,

00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:55.539
it has this weird effect on men. Oh my god. You

00:45:55.539 --> 00:45:58.380
can't blow over the stalker part, guy. Like,

00:45:58.380 --> 00:46:01.630
what? So this chair is committing murders. Detective

00:46:01.630 --> 00:46:03.730
Grape and Gravy are trying to figure out what

00:46:03.730 --> 00:46:06.750
happened to the first victim. Her rabbi is trying

00:46:06.750 --> 00:46:08.690
to find a demon. There's a demon afoot. There's

00:46:08.690 --> 00:46:11.269
a demon. As conveniently, his granddaughter Maxie

00:46:11.269 --> 00:46:13.769
is best friends with Francesca, who received

00:46:13.769 --> 00:46:16.750
the chair. Shockingly, it takes most of the film

00:46:16.750 --> 00:46:19.010
for these two to put things together there. Well,

00:46:19.050 --> 00:46:20.829
I mean, their names are Grape and Gravy. Yeah.

00:46:20.929 --> 00:46:23.769
And I'll get to that. So the victim of the killer

00:46:23.769 --> 00:46:27.679
chair is Francesca's boyfriend. um who nobody

00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:31.019
believes after he gets like his legs get it right

00:46:31.019 --> 00:46:33.519
that's the worst part is no one believes him

00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:36.119
yeah like he's he so he he gets his legs impaled

00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:39.179
while making a dijorno pizza right so he's making

00:46:39.179 --> 00:46:40.840
a dijorno pizza not paying attention listening

00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:43.159
to music and he gets stabbed in his legs by the

00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:45.320
two spiral like two spirals that come out from

00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:49.559
the oven And they're like, wow, that's so weird.

00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:51.420
Both your legs got impaled. Like, they find him

00:46:51.420 --> 00:46:53.699
in the bathtub. Stupid guy. Well, I guess you

00:46:53.699 --> 00:46:55.420
gotta go to your mom's house and just recover

00:46:55.420 --> 00:46:58.639
there. So not only does the sofa not make the

00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:00.500
kill right away, but no one believes it. When

00:47:00.500 --> 00:47:02.599
the sofa comes to finish him off, the sofa can

00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:06.059
move around. Recliner. Recliner, sorry. So the

00:47:06.059 --> 00:47:07.699
recliner kills him off. Much more agile that

00:47:07.699 --> 00:47:10.300
way. Let's push this to move around. We just

00:47:10.300 --> 00:47:12.760
have to address. Recliner, recliner. Francesca's

00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:15.440
having this boyfriend is missing and was a stalker.

00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:17.650
Frederique, her current boyfriend. She's being

00:47:17.650 --> 00:47:20.530
questioned by the police. Her stalker, who is

00:47:20.530 --> 00:47:23.489
in her band, is a dancer of sorts. Oh, that's

00:47:23.489 --> 00:47:25.730
why she has the effect on people. Okay. Not an

00:47:25.730 --> 00:47:28.090
erotic dancer, just a dancer. No, no, no, I get

00:47:28.090 --> 00:47:31.469
it. If you dance in a band, you are going to

00:47:31.469 --> 00:47:34.429
have an effect. So she has a stalker, his cousin,

00:47:34.590 --> 00:47:37.630
who lets himself into her apartment, puts a camera

00:47:37.630 --> 00:47:40.670
in his place, then gets into her bed and dry

00:47:40.670 --> 00:47:43.110
humps and pillows under the covers, and then

00:47:43.110 --> 00:47:47.030
kind of scoots on in, murders him. Because, you

00:47:47.030 --> 00:47:48.750
know, people are creeping on Francesca and that's

00:47:48.750 --> 00:47:51.409
only the sofa's job. recliner. Yeah, recliner

00:47:51.409 --> 00:47:53.469
job. So all these murders are happening. Gravy

00:47:53.469 --> 00:47:55.869
are starting to put it together, but it's not

00:47:55.869 --> 00:47:58.510
going well, and Gravy, his wife left him, so

00:47:58.510 --> 00:48:00.030
Gravy's like, do you want to come back to my

00:48:00.030 --> 00:48:02.969
place? And Gravy shuts that shit down. So poor

00:48:02.969 --> 00:48:05.090
Gravy. It's also, Gravy is also upset with Francesca

00:48:05.090 --> 00:48:06.150
at this point. Yeah, because of her effect on

00:48:06.150 --> 00:48:08.329
him. Because of her effect, right, yeah. So what,

00:48:08.429 --> 00:48:09.909
so I'm sure you're all wondering, what is the

00:48:09.909 --> 00:48:12.789
climax of this? So the rabbi, the rabbi figures

00:48:12.789 --> 00:48:14.969
out that there's likely a demon inside the little

00:48:14.969 --> 00:48:19.820
kid away from Francesca. In reality, In the past.

00:48:19.820 --> 00:48:22.780
So, flashback time. Two murders. One got killed.

00:48:22.900 --> 00:48:25.059
The other ran into the woods and committed suicide

00:48:25.059 --> 00:48:28.920
in front of somebody. Francesca's ancestor. And

00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:31.039
the woman who committed suicide, her spirit is

00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:34.019
now haunting for his bloodline. Even though her

00:48:34.019 --> 00:48:37.440
great -grandmother went on a nut. Wow, the progeny,

00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:41.300
like, yeah. So, the rabbi leaves. They need to

00:48:41.300 --> 00:48:43.659
exorcise the demon inside the sofa. Exorcise

00:48:43.659 --> 00:48:45.539
the demon. And that'll solve all the problems.

00:48:45.659 --> 00:48:47.900
Turns out, there's something lying, but it ain't

00:48:47.900 --> 00:48:51.980
a demon. It's Frederico. He is inside the recliner.

00:48:51.980 --> 00:48:54.440
Right. So the opening scene, we thought... He

00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:55.800
was getting... It's just his legs getting chopped

00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:57.900
inside. It was a favor from a friend that chopped

00:48:57.900 --> 00:49:00.440
off his legs so he could fit inside the recliner.

00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:02.360
I got a call up. He just told me to do it. I

00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:05.579
don't know. I did it. Right. No. Yes. So it's

00:49:05.579 --> 00:49:07.679
just a dude inside the sofa, right? Recliner.

00:49:08.019 --> 00:49:10.219
Recliner. Recliner, right. There's a sofa. So

00:49:10.219 --> 00:49:12.639
they have the gravy come in. The recliner is

00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:14.920
Francesca. It's a great bust -thin recliner.

00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:18.159
The kitchen falls down, and there's half of Frederico.

00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:19.699
And they're like, all right, well, we've solved

00:49:19.699 --> 00:49:21.940
the mystery. We know Frederico. We know who's

00:49:21.940 --> 00:49:25.179
been killing the people. No, actually, there

00:49:25.179 --> 00:49:28.059
really was a demon inside the recliner. It was

00:49:28.059 --> 00:49:31.369
looking for a spirit to pass on into. A body.

00:49:31.510 --> 00:49:34.570
Which is Frederico. Well, no, he's dead. Oh.

00:49:34.969 --> 00:49:39.130
So it was a fake out. So the evil spirit in the

00:49:39.130 --> 00:49:41.090
refiner. Yeah, that's right. They redacted the

00:49:41.090 --> 00:49:42.469
plot twist. This is like two minutes after I

00:49:42.469 --> 00:49:46.110
revealed the plot twist. So the evil spirit of

00:49:46.110 --> 00:49:49.170
the man who was one of the two murderers goes

00:49:49.170 --> 00:49:52.250
into gravy. Franchised by a ghost that only appeared

00:49:52.250 --> 00:49:54.829
twice. The spirit of the ghost goes to Franchise.

00:49:54.829 --> 00:49:58.000
Poor Grave. goes to visit Francesca and sees

00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.639
through a window Gravy and Francesca have gone.

00:50:00.940 --> 00:50:04.960
She probably knows too much. So the film ends

00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:09.079
on a cliffhanger of Gravy and Francesca leaving

00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:12.139
the house to often commit more murders. So they're

00:50:12.139 --> 00:50:18.199
still out there. Oh my god. This movie was a

00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:20.139
tight 81 minutes and there's a minute that I

00:50:20.139 --> 00:50:22.860
did not talk about. It was thankfully short.

00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:29.420
Very, very short. You know, I'll give props to

00:50:29.420 --> 00:50:31.980
you because it was really intimidating. The minute

00:50:31.980 --> 00:50:34.380
it started talking and showing that it had teeth

00:50:34.380 --> 00:50:37.079
was kind of strange. And you saw that derpy face.

00:50:37.460 --> 00:50:40.199
I really wish I knew what the budget of this

00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:42.619
film was. We're going to post on our Instagram

00:50:42.619 --> 00:50:46.460
a picture of the derpy face. It's kind of cute.

00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:49.420
And on the drive here, I realized there was a

00:50:49.420 --> 00:50:53.480
couple of plot holes. Oh, no. There was plot

00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:57.179
holes? Cheska get a recliner that was of a murder.

00:50:57.460 --> 00:51:00.400
Right? So, yeah, like, well, okay, so they pick

00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:02.400
up, like, so a bunch of random characters come

00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:04.179
to deliver it. They come to deliver it. And it

00:51:04.179 --> 00:51:05.699
crushes someone's hand. Well, well, well, right.

00:51:05.940 --> 00:51:07.420
And it almost crushes one of their hands. Like,

00:51:07.460 --> 00:51:08.739
oh, what's wrong with this recliner? Did it,

00:51:08.739 --> 00:51:11.800
like, fall? No, it's under the, like, the kick,

00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:14.760
the... Oh, and that's how it walks. Right. Because

00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:17.559
it walks. So imagine the sofa. So, like, the

00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:20.800
recliner, so, like, the foot comes out. And then

00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.039
you just kind of... Oh, God. Kind of waltzes.

00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:24.980
Yeah. I'm glad you said that because the people

00:51:24.980 --> 00:51:27.139
at home are going to get that. Definitely. That

00:51:27.139 --> 00:51:30.320
is the sound of the recliner. Yeah. That's...

00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:35.880
Yeah. It is... If you enjoy Shockey, be... C...

00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:40.800
C... C -rated horror film. Watch it, pop popcorn,

00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:42.639
have beers, take a drink every time they say

00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:47.000
Grape and Gravy, Recliner, or Francesca. If you

00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:50.539
are going to be a Blumhouse film... You're in

00:51:50.539 --> 00:51:54.019
for a world of disappointment. By the way, shout

00:51:54.019 --> 00:51:55.960
out to our friends, Badminton Drinking and when

00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:57.980
I said we would watch a bad movie, they made

00:51:57.980 --> 00:52:00.599
one for us for Avatar, which we still have not

00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:02.739
watched. I would love to do that. With the laughter?

00:52:03.019 --> 00:52:05.219
Yeah, I would try to make, I had like an a**.

00:52:05.659 --> 00:52:08.460
That's right, yeah. It's on Prime for free, so

00:52:08.460 --> 00:52:11.059
no money was spent to watch this film. Thank

00:52:11.059 --> 00:52:14.250
God. But... Yeah, go into it knowing it's bad.

00:52:14.369 --> 00:52:17.929
Go in prepared for some laughter as well as why

00:52:17.929 --> 00:52:21.050
oh why is this happening. Why oh why. Also, no

00:52:21.050 --> 00:52:23.750
offense to the actors who played the bad rabbi.

00:52:23.809 --> 00:52:25.829
Do your work on your show fucking because you

00:52:25.829 --> 00:52:27.929
suck at it. That was that little horn thing.

00:52:27.929 --> 00:52:30.250
Oh, yeah. No, no. You were pissed off about it.

00:52:30.309 --> 00:52:33.309
I remember. It took you out of the mood. You

00:52:33.309 --> 00:52:36.050
were so immersed. I really was. I believe this

00:52:36.050 --> 00:52:41.090
is a lot of good stuff. How many shofars are

00:52:41.090 --> 00:52:44.389
five out of this? How many recliners, not sofas,

00:52:44.389 --> 00:52:47.010
out of five? I'll make the streak of threes and

00:52:47.010 --> 00:52:50.550
give it a two and a half. Wow! That is the highest.

00:52:50.929 --> 00:52:52.750
Do you want to know why I'm giving it a decent?

00:52:52.809 --> 00:52:55.980
Is it? What would have been higher? So, one of

00:52:55.980 --> 00:52:59.579
the ones I watched was highly fashionable or

00:52:59.579 --> 00:53:01.559
whatever it was. That's right, yes. And I thought

00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:02.920
it was really as bad as I thought it would be.

00:53:02.980 --> 00:53:06.239
But that's the only one that I have on the radar

00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:10.539
of. Two, two and a half for the killer sofa and

00:53:10.539 --> 00:53:12.460
some of that is Jeff Beeson and I just love him.

00:53:12.539 --> 00:53:15.380
However, the real reason this movie is not because

00:53:15.380 --> 00:53:17.619
on Thursday I had the unfortunate mispleasure

00:53:17.619 --> 00:53:21.719
of watching 1995's The Net with Sandra Bullock.

00:53:22.139 --> 00:53:25.199
and yeah it's good for her for having a career

00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:30.039
after it seems like one is just like maybe it

00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:32.460
was trying to be good and it ended up bad are

00:53:32.460 --> 00:53:35.460
we talking about that because it's killer sofa

00:53:35.460 --> 00:53:38.420
we just knew it was going to be any movie called

00:53:38.420 --> 00:53:41.119
killer so the one in tongue in cheek the net

00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:44.469
is i think that they had This plan of the internet

00:53:44.469 --> 00:53:47.550
is evil. Yeah. Let's make a movie about that.

00:53:47.730 --> 00:53:51.449
It was written by men, for men, and how hackers

00:53:51.449 --> 00:53:55.230
are. Maybe the tagline should be Gaslight the

00:53:55.230 --> 00:53:57.650
movie. Yeah. Fair enough. That's a good title.

00:53:59.469 --> 00:54:01.670
Okay, so, well, that brings us to our next thing.

00:54:01.769 --> 00:54:03.429
So, normally at the start of the portion of the

00:54:03.429 --> 00:54:06.190
show, we talk about the thought or dreading.

00:54:06.610 --> 00:54:08.769
We're talking about something that's news related.

00:54:09.050 --> 00:54:12.719
News! um so just this week brothers announced

00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.820
that all of their 2021 films are going to be

00:54:15.820 --> 00:54:19.860
released in theaters as well as on hbo max simultaneously

00:54:19.860 --> 00:54:23.659
um we're gonna get our thoughts on this we're

00:54:23.659 --> 00:54:26.039
gonna get our feelings on this we're gonna get

00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:29.340
we're talking about on this um because it's an

00:54:29.340 --> 00:54:34.179
interesting thing that this pandemic created

00:54:34.179 --> 00:54:40.199
this new line of thinking that this is now I

00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:42.099
don't know who wants to go first. Who's feeling

00:54:42.099 --> 00:54:45.300
the strongest opinion? I can go first. Yeah,

00:54:45.300 --> 00:54:48.099
do that. I also just talked for a good 10 minutes.

00:54:50.420 --> 00:54:54.320
What's interesting about it is how they are trying

00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:57.719
to also stay in love with theaters. Because the

00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:01.659
idea is dreams for like 30 days and then it goes

00:55:01.659 --> 00:55:06.570
back to theaters only. Yeah. Okay. Huh. I didn't

00:55:06.570 --> 00:55:08.849
realize that was like a time thing. So it's going

00:55:08.849 --> 00:55:11.190
to be a time thing where it's, and I don't know

00:55:11.190 --> 00:55:13.869
if it's 30 days, maybe I'm wrong on that. Um,

00:55:14.010 --> 00:55:15.929
but it's going to be a time thing where it's

00:55:15.929 --> 00:55:17.730
available on stream and then it's going to be

00:55:17.730 --> 00:55:20.289
off streaming, but in theaters and then it's

00:55:20.289 --> 00:55:23.710
back to streaming. Got it. And like the streaming

00:55:23.710 --> 00:55:25.969
is going to be following more like the model

00:55:25.969 --> 00:55:27.809
we used. It's like, okay, it's been in theaters

00:55:27.809 --> 00:55:29.829
for a while. Give it time, give it time, give

00:55:29.829 --> 00:55:32.469
it time. Now it's streaming. Right. Okay. Um,

00:55:33.210 --> 00:55:36.730
I find it interesting because I know some people

00:55:36.730 --> 00:55:38.329
disagree with me, but I think we're seeing the

00:55:38.329 --> 00:55:42.989
end. I think we're seeing the end of multiplexes.

00:55:43.010 --> 00:55:47.309
Yes. I would agree. I think Alamo survived. I

00:55:47.309 --> 00:55:50.110
think Arclight, they've got to make it special.

00:55:50.630 --> 00:55:53.690
Bring on the indie art theaters. Yeah. If you're

00:55:53.690 --> 00:55:58.389
AMC, you have the ability to pivot, but how fast

00:55:58.389 --> 00:56:01.050
you can do it, that's another question for you.

00:56:01.130 --> 00:56:04.159
So my thing is, though, Are you willing to spend

00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.599
$20 a night at the movies versus $13 a month

00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:11.460
for HBO Max? Well, yeah. No, Mike, so the difference

00:56:11.460 --> 00:56:13.420
here is that you have to eventize this stuff.

00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:16.900
It has to be a special outing. Like, those are

00:56:16.900 --> 00:56:18.920
the years they're going to survive. Casually

00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:21.539
going to AMC because you're an A -list member,

00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:24.760
like, that's done. That is done. The Sunday matinee.

00:56:24.900 --> 00:56:27.659
Yeah, okay. Yeah, unless, you know, it's a night

00:56:27.659 --> 00:56:30.599
out. They really go out of their way to make

00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:33.300
something where it's an experience and really

00:56:33.300 --> 00:56:36.440
sizing the customer service and just having a

00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:38.960
blast for two hours. The normal movie theater

00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:41.679
multiplexes, they can't hang. They were built

00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:45.920
to do that. So this is, I think you're onto something

00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:49.179
when it says it could be the demo theaters. Yeah.

00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:51.760
I don't know. I guess I'll just add some thoughts

00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:54.539
on that. Yeah, I agree. I would still, I still

00:56:54.539 --> 00:56:56.900
have my theater whenever it's safe, rather, you

00:56:56.900 --> 00:57:00.239
know, in 2021 or 2022 or whatever. But yeah,

00:57:00.300 --> 00:57:02.019
it'll be probably less frequent because, you

00:57:02.019 --> 00:57:04.179
know, we'll have that streaming option. I'm going

00:57:04.179 --> 00:57:07.659
to say to Chris Duckman, who does movie reviews,

00:57:07.820 --> 00:57:10.940
I get a really good point saying that the future

00:57:10.940 --> 00:57:13.239
of film going, kind of going one of two ways.

00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:16.400
It's good for the people who, when they go to

00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:17.719
a movie, they treat it as if they're watching

00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:19.539
a movie at home. The people who are always on

00:57:19.539 --> 00:57:22.460
their phone or not really paying attention. They

00:57:22.460 --> 00:57:24.219
don't have to go to theaters anymore. They can

00:57:24.219 --> 00:57:28.239
be home. Okay. For people who love going to movies,

00:57:28.460 --> 00:57:31.360
yes, the megaplexes, I agree with you on that.

00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:34.000
I think that happened. But for those that hold

00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:37.420
on and love movies, it's still going to be there,

00:57:37.539 --> 00:57:40.159
and now you don't have to worry about Karen sitting

00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:43.599
next to you on Candy Crush. Oh, I don't have

00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:45.679
to worry about the guy at Murder in the Orient

00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:48.809
that sat right in the theater. That guy was that,

00:57:49.309 --> 00:57:52.650
but I, for films that it's going to hands where,

00:57:52.710 --> 00:57:54.789
you know, come out for a show, but they're always

00:57:54.789 --> 00:57:57.030
going to be movies. No matter how free it is.

00:57:57.030 --> 00:58:01.750
Imagine never being on a big screen. Well, so

00:58:01.750 --> 00:58:03.710
that's, that's the next thing I'll bring up is,

00:58:03.730 --> 00:58:07.750
um, it's, uh, is it Denny Villeneuve? Denny Villeneuve.

00:58:07.829 --> 00:58:13.260
Yeah. Dune. Um, And they've now complained about

00:58:13.260 --> 00:58:15.420
the fact that they did not sign up for this.

00:58:15.659 --> 00:58:17.639
This is not what they wanted. And they got backed

00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:19.840
by Christopher Nolan. Right. Of course, we knew

00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:22.659
Christopher Nolan was a bigot. He tried to be

00:58:22.659 --> 00:58:25.260
a tenant. Who is involved in this deal? Because,

00:58:25.340 --> 00:58:27.000
like, I mean, it's a production house. You can't

00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:28.579
consult with anybody to make this. Just own these

00:58:28.579 --> 00:58:31.260
films. Well, so that's the story that I'm saying

00:58:31.260 --> 00:58:34.199
is Dune expected to be released on a big screen.

00:58:34.539 --> 00:58:37.219
It is a movie made for the big screen. Yeah.

00:58:37.340 --> 00:58:41.119
And they are now complaining about it. The article

00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:42.679
I read says it's not going to be a big issue

00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:44.840
because basically Warner Brothers is just going

00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:48.679
to pay this production company who owns it. And

00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:51.260
then it's not going to be an issue because then

00:58:51.260 --> 00:58:53.900
Dune gets their money, Warner gets their money.

00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:58.039
It's not a big deal. But what happens to these

00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:04.719
movies that are big screen? I know you take theaters

00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:07.119
and everything like that, and I'm 100 % on board

00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:10.219
with Connecticut. no boutiques except for art

00:59:10.219 --> 00:59:14.300
cinema and sinopolis who let's face it sinopolis

00:59:14.300 --> 00:59:16.639
is probably going to die too i was really hoping

00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:18.840
when sinopolis closed for we're just gonna become

00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:21.940
an indie theater. Exactly. Like, we have Waze,

00:59:21.940 --> 00:59:24.000
and then we have something in New Haven, probably.

00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:26.099
Yeah, something in New Haven. Yep. Yeah. It's

00:59:26.099 --> 00:59:27.860
the college town thing. What are we going to

00:59:27.860 --> 00:59:32.059
do since we do not have T theaters? I mean, it's

00:59:32.059 --> 00:59:34.460
impossible to predict 100%, but I could do, like,

00:59:34.460 --> 00:59:37.900
you know, it could be that AMC somehow pivots

00:59:37.900 --> 00:59:40.440
and becomes a premier experience, you know? It's

00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:43.179
unlikely, I guess, but... What they also could

00:59:43.179 --> 00:59:46.139
do is show, start putting money back into indie

00:59:46.139 --> 00:59:50.139
films. doing uh screenings on 70 millimeter you

00:59:50.139 --> 00:59:53.019
know i've seen um i mean this was here in um

00:59:53.019 --> 00:59:57.420
uh in uh cambridge and outside of boston but

00:59:57.420 --> 00:59:59.360
you know i got to see guys on the film that was

00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:02.159
originally made on and it was amazing so people

01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:04.559
are always going to show up to see films like

01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:07.039
that or they're going to go see elf from uh miracle

01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:09.659
on 34th street so i think it has to be a compromise

01:00:09.659 --> 01:00:13.179
that's being screened it's you know maybe we're

01:00:13.179 --> 01:00:15.340
not going to have everything but meaning the

01:00:15.340 --> 01:00:18.360
big blockbusters we're filling in with the criterion

01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:22.239
collection or having these you know we're going

01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:24.039
to be reaching colleges and having film students

01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:27.340
screen their stuff it's really the only way i'm

01:00:27.340 --> 01:00:29.800
done Because it's part of it, but I ask theaters

01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:32.219
to go the way of Broadway, where it's just prohibitive.

01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:34.820
And please, I love the theater experience. I

01:00:34.820 --> 01:00:36.920
do say I want the theaters dead. I'm not just

01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:38.500
playing devil's advocate. Yeah, yeah, totally.

01:00:38.820 --> 01:00:41.019
You wouldn't have a podcast if you didn't like

01:00:41.019 --> 01:00:43.539
theaters. And that's exactly it. I love the theater

01:00:43.539 --> 01:00:45.539
experience. That's why we had such a big discussion.

01:00:45.539 --> 01:00:47.719
I hated it. The rest of the theaters have done

01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:50.840
such a good job to make us feel a part of it.

01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:53.840
Sure. And one experience is, even though I didn't

01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:56.400
like the movie, was after The Bachelor Party.

01:00:57.710 --> 01:01:01.889
Jason Brandt and I went to Alamo Drafthouse in

01:01:01.889 --> 01:01:05.110
Kansas City to see Hobbs and Shaw. Hobbs and

01:01:05.110 --> 01:01:08.909
Shaw sucked, but it was a blast. It was like

01:01:08.909 --> 01:01:13.489
car chase scenes. It was like, hey, here's who

01:01:13.489 --> 01:01:16.230
Hobbs and Shaw is in the movies. It was built

01:01:16.230 --> 01:01:19.750
for that. It's such a visualized for the movie

01:01:19.750 --> 01:01:22.710
that it was kind of a blast of an experience.

01:01:23.409 --> 01:01:28.300
Before then, I saw the movie. Sure. One thing

01:01:28.300 --> 01:01:31.380
I don't want to discuss. So just to go back to

01:01:31.380 --> 01:01:33.320
your point about Dune. Yeah. The reason production

01:01:33.320 --> 01:01:35.380
companies complain, you know, there's definitely

01:01:35.380 --> 01:01:37.739
a part of the exhibit. They're also in this deal

01:01:37.739 --> 01:01:42.800
with Warners that they point if a movie goes

01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:46.199
200 million, 300 million. Right. When they say

01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:49.940
we. Going to not what they support. They, you

01:01:49.940 --> 01:01:51.880
know, they have this huge put in this kind of

01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:53.599
budget in the hope that it's going to billion

01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:56.719
dollars. Producers, so many back end points and

01:01:56.719 --> 01:01:59.139
actors and end up for this. And it's a big deal,

01:01:59.179 --> 01:02:01.519
at least for the initial movies that we have

01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:05.219
been made and are ready to be released in a way.

01:02:05.820 --> 01:02:08.619
The giant studios need to figure out, OK, how

01:02:08.619 --> 01:02:11.190
do we work this economically? Because, you know,

01:02:11.210 --> 01:02:13.969
going forward, we could say, in writing, this

01:02:13.969 --> 01:02:18.510
is going to go straight to HBO Max, and they're

01:02:18.510 --> 01:02:20.809
going to pen deals appropriately. We have something

01:02:20.809 --> 01:02:23.110
like Patty Jenkins making The Wonder Woman, you

01:02:23.110 --> 01:02:25.829
know, where she was probably slated to make a

01:02:25.829 --> 01:02:27.789
lot more money than she did the first time around.

01:02:28.530 --> 01:02:33.170
This is really changing the game. Because there's

01:02:33.170 --> 01:02:36.289
no such thing as points. It's almost impossible

01:02:36.289 --> 01:02:41.579
to predict. oh subscribers this month yeah and

01:02:41.579 --> 01:02:44.880
that's exactly it too like it's it's tough because

01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:48.260
not only can you not for the subscriber based

01:02:48.260 --> 01:02:52.360
on that but also is like you say we had this

01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:56.300
many but that doesn't include the people jumped

01:02:56.300 --> 01:02:58.900
on their buddy's account or whatever what mitchell

01:02:58.900 --> 01:03:01.260
just made me that's why disney plus disney chose

01:03:01.260 --> 01:03:03.679
to do what they did with move on which was kind

01:03:03.679 --> 01:03:06.420
of after tenant failed to revive the theaters

01:03:06.420 --> 01:03:08.639
you know i think disney plus was one of the first

01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:10.840
of this reading like okay we need to show this

01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:13.260
film we can release it internationally but we

01:03:13.260 --> 01:03:14.920
can't do it in the studio i wonder if that's

01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:16.679
why they put this tag on it was to basically

01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:19.000
saying get uh the people in the back rooms to

01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:22.280
the points to actually recoup some of the cost

01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:25.340
and maybe make crack a billion And I mean, I

01:03:25.340 --> 01:03:27.579
don't think it had been a different film because

01:03:27.579 --> 01:03:30.139
I know Mulan not like I know it had maybe some

01:03:30.139 --> 01:03:31.960
success, but Disney books, they don't release

01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:37.260
their numbers. Right. And. It didn't work. If

01:03:37.260 --> 01:03:40.219
it was a success, we would have known about it.

01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:44.019
And we would be paying for Soul. We would not

01:03:44.019 --> 01:03:48.159
be getting Soul for free. Exactly. By the way,

01:03:48.260 --> 01:03:51.139
I just also want to say that the people that

01:03:51.139 --> 01:03:54.039
were trending Mulan on Twitter when Warner Brothers

01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:56.099
announced this deal. So Warner Brothers announced

01:03:56.099 --> 01:03:59.440
that Mulan started trending because they were

01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:00.780
like, you didn't have to pay for this, blah,

01:04:00.860 --> 01:04:04.820
blah, blah, whatever. the funny thing is that

01:04:04.820 --> 01:04:07.760
when mulan was released for the price tag they

01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:10.239
said in the beginning eventually for free yeah

01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:12.619
and all the complaining 30 bucks for it i'm sorry

01:04:12.619 --> 01:04:16.280
you got duped you're a dumbass you're not gonna

01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:18.550
read the fine print because I not thought I was

01:04:18.550 --> 01:04:19.889
ever going to show up to see Mulan because I

01:04:19.889 --> 01:04:22.170
have a very strict aversion to all the live action

01:04:22.170 --> 01:04:26.070
Disney remakes. But, you know, it was, I'm not

01:04:26.070 --> 01:04:27.750
going to give that thing away. We're paying Disney

01:04:27.750 --> 01:04:30.170
Plus. And besides, you know, when a Disney Plus

01:04:30.170 --> 01:04:32.969
wants to charge money, additional money for their

01:04:32.969 --> 01:04:36.250
theatrical released films, don't make it $30

01:04:36.250 --> 01:04:39.610
and not give anything else with it. If it's going

01:04:39.610 --> 01:04:43.269
to be $30, I want Peter Jackson behind the scenes.

01:04:44.379 --> 01:04:46.760
Three hour long featurettes. I want to know how

01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:48.679
this movie was made. I want the deleted scenes.

01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:51.420
I want the blooper. I want the commentary. I

01:04:51.420 --> 01:04:54.000
want all of that for $30. There's your movie.

01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:58.280
I hate to cut this conversation short because

01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:00.420
I actually enjoy this conversation and everything

01:05:00.420 --> 01:05:04.860
like that, but we are past an hour. Which is

01:05:04.860 --> 01:05:06.300
not the end of the world. If we want to keep

01:05:06.300 --> 01:05:09.739
talking, I'm okay with it. Well, you know. We

01:05:09.739 --> 01:05:16.219
can always have the B -side. The B -side. I haven't

01:05:16.219 --> 01:05:18.360
thought about this, but if you guys want to buy

01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:24.599
a special edition to our podcast, you can come

01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:29.099
to the Patreon. It's happening. Please, this

01:05:29.099 --> 01:05:32.780
is right now just thinking of it. I think we

01:05:32.780 --> 01:05:35.400
could go on for this conversation. I love brainstorming

01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:38.159
our podcast live on air. This is literally live

01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:40.539
on air. We're brainstorming. This is what you

01:05:40.539 --> 01:05:43.019
get when you subscribe to our podcast. For a

01:05:43.019 --> 01:05:46.019
dollar. you can throw out your hot takes and

01:05:46.019 --> 01:05:48.840
we'll react. Yeah, exactly. Seriously, though,

01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:52.440
we're brainstorming because we're a local podcast

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that's meant for the local people. Not local

01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:58.380
people, but for the friends. We're not made for

01:05:58.380 --> 01:06:02.820
a big crowd right now. Right now. We may get

01:06:02.820 --> 01:06:05.219
to a point. But right now, it's just our friends,

01:06:05.260 --> 01:06:08.099
family listening. If you like what you're hearing

01:06:08.099 --> 01:06:11.000
and you would pay money for it, let us know.

01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:13.849
But really, Reach out to us. That's really what

01:06:13.849 --> 01:06:16.469
I'm getting to. Reach out to us on Instagram,

01:06:16.690 --> 01:06:20.269
on Facebook. We have an email, gameformoviepodcast

01:06:20.269 --> 01:06:23.809
.gmail .com. Send us your comments. What? I think

01:06:23.809 --> 01:06:26.070
it's time for Twitter. Twitter? Oh, boy. Okay,

01:06:26.170 --> 01:06:28.909
we'll add a Twitter. Oh, man. We gotta tweet

01:06:28.909 --> 01:06:31.769
now. We gotta get a tweet guy. Hey, I'll give

01:06:31.769 --> 01:06:33.269
you a password if we want to tweet. Whatever.

01:06:33.389 --> 01:06:37.449
Thank you. Just try hotcakes. In our conversation,

01:06:37.809 --> 01:06:39.510
I don't think we've done enough of this. If you

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guys have something that wants to go on the Instagram,

01:06:41.690 --> 01:06:44.530
Facebook, whatever, let me know. The only reason

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is because up to this point, I've made it my

01:06:47.610 --> 01:06:51.969
personal password. Right. So I want to include

01:06:51.969 --> 01:06:54.389
anything you guys think of, that kind of stuff.

01:06:54.570 --> 01:06:57.329
We're just spitballing here on the old podcast.

01:06:57.889 --> 01:07:00.309
Feel free to ask us questions. If we ever get

01:07:00.309 --> 01:07:03.730
mail, we'll read mail. Wow. Yeah. Like Blue's

01:07:03.730 --> 01:07:08.300
Clues. He went to the fog and damp. We just got

01:07:08.300 --> 01:07:12.619
a letter. We just got a letter. We just got a

01:07:12.619 --> 01:07:16.440
letter. We want to know who it's from. Were you

01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:19.199
guys with Steve or Joe? Steve. What the hell?

01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:23.199
He was cuter. Joe had the hair. There was a Christmas

01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:26.300
special that Steve made an appearance. Did Steve

01:07:26.300 --> 01:07:30.559
go off to be a DJ? Was that like the... He went

01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:34.599
to college. He went to college. Steve was going

01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:38.119
bald. Yes. Why'd you have to take a dig at his

01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:40.679
hair, man? That's not cool. Why'd you say Joe

01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:43.090
had better hair? Well, yeah, that's because he

01:07:43.090 --> 01:07:45.409
was balding. He was balding, yeah, exactly. And

01:07:45.409 --> 01:07:47.590
in the Christmas special, he has a hat on because

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he's a detective because he was sensitive about

01:07:49.929 --> 01:07:53.730
his hair. You know what? For all the kids out

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there who are young enough to watch Blue's Clues

01:07:55.909 --> 01:07:58.010
or their parents, the new Blue's Clues has a

01:07:58.010 --> 01:08:00.329
really good -looking guy now. I don't know his

01:08:00.329 --> 01:08:03.250
name. Yeah, but it also has a CGI blue. What?

01:08:03.369 --> 01:08:06.489
That ain't right. I'm too busy looking at the

01:08:06.489 --> 01:08:09.670
thirst traps, not Steve. Oh my gosh. Have you

01:08:09.670 --> 01:08:12.489
seen his photo? Wait, who are we talking about?

01:08:14.230 --> 01:08:19.130
Joshua De La Cruz. De La Cruz, okay. Yeah, and

01:08:19.130 --> 01:08:25.729
he is very good looking. He's yummy. Again, you

01:08:25.729 --> 01:08:29.670
got on my phone so I can't look it up. And my

01:08:29.670 --> 01:08:36.369
boy is Filipino. Oh, yeah. Look at him. Oh, look

01:08:36.369 --> 01:08:40.010
at that guy. Yeah. He's cute. Oh, wow. All right.

01:08:40.470 --> 01:08:43.869
We all agree. Can I just say it in the best way

01:08:43.869 --> 01:08:45.630
possible? Wow, what the fuck? He's, like, weirdly

01:08:45.630 --> 01:08:53.569
buff. What the hell? This is devolved amazingly.

01:08:54.989 --> 01:09:02.819
Like, this is devolved amazingly. Oh, my God.

01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:07.779
Which one of us had a 10 % beer here? You. Yeah,

01:09:07.819 --> 01:09:12.100
and I'm on my 8%. Fair enough. For all of those

01:09:12.100 --> 01:09:13.460
who are curious what we're doing after this,

01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:15.960
we're going to play a spicy game of Yahtzee to

01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:18.079
determine the next loser. Oh, it's going to be

01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:20.720
great. I'm really excited because I've drank

01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:23.380
way too much, so Yahtzee is right what I asked

01:09:23.380 --> 01:09:25.399
for. All right, excellent. My second time playing

01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:27.239
Yahtzee, everybody. I'm very excited. I'm going

01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:29.420
to lose. I'm going to put it out right now on

01:09:29.420 --> 01:09:30.960
the podcast. I'm going to lose and I'm going

01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:32.399
to have to watch a bad movie and it's going to

01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:34.000
be great. It's going to be awesome. I should

01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:35.859
pick the movie because it will be a Barbie animated

01:09:35.859 --> 01:09:41.119
film. Oh. Oh, no. Oh, yes. Wow. It's unorthodox,

01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:44.619
but okay. I love bad movies. I know, but okay.

01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:47.199
A Barbie movie? Yeah. Okay. It won't be like

01:09:47.199 --> 01:09:48.680
one of the really bad ones. It'll be like one

01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:50.819
of the middle tier. Mitchell, I hope you lose.

01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:55.180
Well, you know, Maravi is or someone famous.

01:09:55.300 --> 01:09:58.579
It's someone like legitimate talent is supposed

01:09:58.579 --> 01:10:01.100
to be in a Barbie movie, like a live action Barbie

01:10:01.100 --> 01:10:03.779
movie. Oh, God. Yeah. Well, like a live action

01:10:03.779 --> 01:10:05.699
is fine. We're talking about the animated. Yeah.

01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:11.880
I know. But 2014 abominations. Oh, God. All right.

01:10:11.939 --> 01:10:14.840
I hope you lose. I'm not even there. Yeah. We're

01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:16.439
going to roll for you and we're going to show

01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:19.890
you the dice. We'll get like a bucket. We'll

01:10:19.890 --> 01:10:21.770
put a hat on. We'll draw a face. We'll give it

01:10:21.770 --> 01:10:23.409
a name tag that says Mitchell. You're going to

01:10:23.409 --> 01:10:24.789
see it the whole time. You're going to know we

01:10:24.789 --> 01:10:26.810
didn't cheat you. It's going to be fine. That's

01:10:26.810 --> 01:10:29.149
fine. Yeah. All right. Well, we're going to close

01:10:29.149 --> 01:10:31.550
out this podcast because the last like five minutes

01:10:31.550 --> 01:10:33.689
we've been off the rails. Yeah, we went off the

01:10:33.689 --> 01:10:36.090
rails. I hope you enjoyed it. Please comment,

01:10:36.229 --> 01:10:39.470
like, share, subscribe, whatever you got to do

01:10:39.470 --> 01:10:42.489
on Instagram, Facebook. We're going to be on

01:10:42.489 --> 01:10:45.789
Twitter apparently and YouTube. YouTube? You

01:10:45.789 --> 01:10:48.029
know what? The algorithm will not get us. That's

01:10:48.029 --> 01:10:49.649
a lot of platforms. That's a lot of platforms.

01:10:49.729 --> 01:10:51.869
We're on Spotify. We're on CastBox. We're on

01:10:51.869 --> 01:10:54.149
Luminary. We're all over the place. I don't even

01:10:54.149 --> 01:10:57.130
know where CastBox is. CastBox is where we've

01:10:57.130 --> 01:10:58.670
gotten the most comments. That's when you can

01:10:58.670 --> 01:11:02.729
actually comment on a show. And I actually like

01:11:02.729 --> 01:11:04.909
that the best because I like hearing from you

01:11:04.909 --> 01:11:09.149
guys. So please send us thoughts, comments, concerns.

01:11:09.649 --> 01:11:14.210
Yeah. So for myself, Mike Vitanek. Andre. Jill.

01:11:15.300 --> 01:11:17.300
Mitchell. Thank you guys very much for listening

01:11:17.300 --> 01:11:19.279
to Game for a Movie where we ask, are you game

01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:20.159
for a movie?