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you know what that sound means it's another episode

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of game for a movie where we ask are you game

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for a movie i am mike your host i am joined by

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andre and jill andre you came in hot yeah i was

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ready to go yeah all right all right i love it

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yeah uh we've got movies we've also got drinks

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we're we've got a lot of stuff to talk about

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um andre since you came in hot what are you drinking

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over there All right. Well, I might have been

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coming in hot, but I am staying cool with this

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bourbon peach tea punch, my friend. Oh, it's

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a delight. And you give me shit for my transition.

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That was cheesy as fuck. Jill and I. So we have

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a for the July party coming up and I'm trying.

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We're basically trying to taste test this batch

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recipe. It's it's black tea, bourbon and peach

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liqueur. And it is delightful. The bourbon, if

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anybody cares, is Old Forrester. Very refreshing.

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Old Forrester 100 proof. That's the bourbon.

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And it's delightful. Nice. You guys are having

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a 4th of July party without me. It's really surreal

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being... Yeah. I was trying to say, is it surreal

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to be one room over from Andre? Because there's,

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I guess, a bit of a lag for me. Okay. i'm hearing

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you know a five second pause and then yes yeah

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it is also sad that we are not fourth of july

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together it feels it feels like tradition but

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i'm not yeah i'm not doing a fourth of july party

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this year's it's weird yeah yeah i'm off and

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everything but it's just i i haven't found the

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need to yet just taking a day then yeah just

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taking the day oh yeah um i do have two pork

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butts i'm gonna independence day I might watch

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Independence Day. I'm probably going to smoke

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these two pork butts and then bring it over to

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the hospital because Claire's working there.

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Okay. So I'll do a little, hey, there you guys

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go, lunch. Thank you for all you do. Nice, dude.

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Jill, are you having a bourbon peach cocktail?

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I am. We're drinking the same thing. I needed

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her opinion, too. Yeah, he did. I can't say my

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favorite brewery brought back my favorite summer

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sour, so I had that today. The Double Rocket

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Pop by Alvarium. Oh, I forgot about the Double

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Rocket Pop. Yeah. Last year, I verified. Last

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year, it was just a Rocket Pop. Now it is a Double.

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And it is delicious. I bought a four -pack. Super

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excited. Gonna make them last for as long as

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I can. Tastes like a melted popsicle. Gets you

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drunk. What more could you want? It tastes better

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than the Popsicle. I don't even like the Popsicle.

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Wait, what? I don't like the Popsicle. You don't

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like the Rocket Pop? No, I don't like... I like

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lemon ice. I like lemon ice things, but on the

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grand spectrum of frozen delights, I definitely

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lean towards the creamy and chocolate versus

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the fruit and ice. I don't know what to do with

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you sometimes. Especially those things that come

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in tubes. I just buy stuff. But it doesn't come

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in a tube. No, no, no. That's a totally different

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product. You're talking about the... Like Flintstone

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push -up pop? Yeah. I know what I'm talking about.

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The red, white, and blue one. Those push -up

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pops were crack. Those were good. Those were

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good. Yeah. The red, white, and blue one wasn't

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a push -up, though. No, no, no. But I'm just

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saying, like, that's a totally different product.

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It's all, yeah. I like the red. I like the white

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part because I like lemon. Lemon. Cherry and

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blueberry. Lemon and blue. I don't like cherry

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-flavored things. So the cherry was my least

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favorite, then the white, then the blue, which,

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guess what? That's the way the pop works. But,

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you know, at summer camp, at the end of every

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day at summer camp, we would leave and we'd get

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a -handed ices or ice cream. That one was one

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I would eat. Creamsicles would always be like

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a pass. I don't like creamsicles. I'm not a creamsicle

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fan. It's artificial orange. I just don't like

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that flavor. And then usually if it was a creamsicle

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on one side, because there was two ways to get

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to the buses, the other side would have like

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the broken up cookie bits around like a chocolate

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layer and then like a vanilla layer in the middle.

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That would be my alternative. But the Flintstone

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Push Pops were good. Those are the best. It's

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a different type of fruity ice. It's creamy almost.

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See, Rocket Pop makes me think of the Fourth

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of July. Makes me really want a hot dog real

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bad. The point. Is it a lyric from something?

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Huh? Is it a lyric from something? No, that's

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a quote from Legally Blonde. Oh. There we go.

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It is a quote. I knew it. I knew it was from

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a thing. Jennifer Coolidge. So Elle is wearing

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like red, white, and blue. And Jennifer Coolidge

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looks at her and is just like, you make me think

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of the 4th of July. And I brought a hot dog real

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bad. Oh, gosh. Jennifer Coolidge. What a treasure.

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Yeah, right. Hey, what am I drinking? Oh, I'm

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glad you guys asked. Sorry. So I got from Appalachian

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Mountain Brewing. Can't see it through your green

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screen. I know, the green screen's weird. It's

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the low and hazy IPA. They have like a pioneer

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pack. And so I was like, all right, cool. I'll

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test it out. And it's good. Like the three of

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them are IPAs. And the last thing I was telling

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Andre is a honeydew honeysuckle wheat. Yeah.

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a wheat not a wit or a wheat honeysuckle wheat

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yes it's the same as the wit though no that's

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why i was asking do i remember the difference

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no but they're not the same you don't have to

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yeah it sounds honeydew how how honey that's

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what's that's what's interesting it's very honeydewy

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oh is it but like honeysuckle like the honeysuckle

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kind of rounds it out a little bit i don't know

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i'm not a huge fan of it but I just know nobody

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else is going to drink it, and I just wanted

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the pack, so I was like, okay, cool. Their can

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art is really cool. I like it a lot. Yeah, their

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can art is really cool. This one's a sunset over

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water. I'm trying to block it so you can see

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it past the green screen. Yeah, it is nice. It's

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artistic and fun, so I like it a lot. Appalachian

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Mountain Brewery. Yeah. We've got some movies

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to talk. We do. Funny thing is, I'm starting

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it off with, I'll call it a two -banger. It's

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not really a two -banger, but it kind of is.

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Okay. So I'm talking The Flash. Yeah. And I also

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re -watched, literally 10 minutes ago, Flashpoint

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Paradox, the animated one, because they are similar

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storylines, but they're very different. Yes.

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One is better than the other, for sure, and especially

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because of who stars in it. And I'm going to

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give a little warning right now. I think all

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of us respect pronouns and everything like that.

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I am going to mess up Ezra Miller's at least

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three times during this podcast. Ezra's a they

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them. So I'm going to try my best to say that.

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But there may be a couple times where I see he,

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him, that kind of stuff. The mispronouns are

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not out of malice. Yes, it's not out of malice,

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even though with Ezra Miller, they probably couldn't.

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Even though Ezra Miller has committed many malicious

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acts. Complicated, yes. That also leads into

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this movie. I think I would like it a lot better

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if it wasn't Ezra Miller. You think so? Do they

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not do a good job as Barry? No, they do a great

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job. But it's just hard to watch them in this

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movie. I thought people liked their portrayal

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as Barry Allen. Yes, and I will say that Ezra

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is very good at the role of Barry Allen. The

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problem is seeing Ezra. That's what it is. Takes

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you out of the movie. I think this movie would

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have been higher on my list with an actor of

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the same caliber, but not as complicated behind

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the scenes. Okay. sorry i'm dying i'm curious

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to know who you'd fan recast and don't yeah right

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if you if you can wave a magic wand and have

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somebody else that was the problem i don't i

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don't know who i would either i kept imagining

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grant gustin talking about the cw one just because

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he i have that reference yeah um i don't think

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he could have done the same in this movie because

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he's just call it what it is he's a cw actor

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right yeah it's not meant as an insult but very

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beloved not that i have seen the flash i don't

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know man i've watched the first really go to

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bat for his they do and i'm not gonna say wally

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i don't know which one he is no it's barry yeah

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he's barry um there was a wally at one point

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in that show too i think that's my favorite of

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the flashes as well wally wally watts is pretty

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great well because wait a minute is it wally

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is in young justice right that's the okay yeah

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kid flash that's kid flash i mean let's just

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get mangel rosenbaum back in the you know Yeah,

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sure, bring him back. Perfect voice. Just use

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AI to de -age him. I'm sure he's down for it.

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Right. So the idea of the Flash, basically, he

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finds out that he can go back in time, and he

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can save his mom from dying. Plus, he also can

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save his father, who was wrongfully accused of

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killing his mother. So he goes back in time,

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he changes one event, saves their life, and then

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the butterfly effect, pretty much. Everything

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then starts getting out of control. Little things

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start changing, but it's mostly mundane, nothing

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like that. And then they realize that this change

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has created a parallel world where Superman never

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landed on Earth, and therefore General Zod's

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still in there. Okay. So General Zod is back

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in this movie. Yes, Michael Shannon's back in

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this movie. I'm pulling up the IMDb now to talk

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about what else. Oh, also, Batman is not the

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same Batman. Yes. That was kind of hard to hide

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because they... Oh, what? They didn't try to

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hide it at all. I don't think they tried to hide

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that. I was trying to say they leaned really

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hard in the marketing. Like, guess who we got?

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The thing that was tougher that they tried to

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hide but they really didn't try to hide is the

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fact that it's Kara L. Right. Instead of Kal

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-El. So, it's Supergirl, pretty much. So, honestly...

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So, a question. Does Kal -El also exist in this

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universe? He just is dead on Krypton? Or is Kara

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-El the sub -it for Kal -El? We don't... I'm

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trying to remember because it's been two weeks

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now. He exists in this world. Yeah. But he went

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to another planet. And I think Zod was able to

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get to him and kill him as a baby. like he's

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not coming back yeah as far as i can in this

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in this universe yeah exactly in this universe

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we ain't getting kal -el um i will say it's nice

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to see michael keaton back as batman that was

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kind of fun uh are you disappointed that he because

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he he's bruce wayne he's not um thomas wayne

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he's bruce right bruce yeah and that's that's

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one of the things with the flashpoint paradox

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like one of the big comparisons uh is because

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flashpoint paradox pretty much same story of

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goes back to save his mom and butterfly effect

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everything like that one of the things that happens

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is one of my favorite batman origins of all time

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because if we have to see it at least try to

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do something new with it in that world bruce

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gets shot and thomas wayne becomes batman but

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what's even more fun with their interpretation

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is like martha is like holding his chest of bruce

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with the blood and everything and she like just

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collapses and puts like her hand over her mouth

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and you think at first she's crying but then

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she kind of comes up and starts laughing with

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this big joker grin with blood oh it's so good

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oh it is And if you read the, not that I have

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read the comics, I'm not going to pretend that

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I have, but I think for Martha Arkham is her

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last name. Like her, the, her side of the family

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in the lore canonically, they've always kind

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of hinted like a thread of madness has been there.

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So like, it's also really just done so well where

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it's like, okay, this isn't completely come out

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of left field. I mean, it does, but it's like,

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it's like, okay, no, they have established that

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Martha Wayne. I think that's stuff. Yeah. And

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I think that's why it's so good is because there

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is this level of believability you can see, because

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especially if you read the comics, there's always

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that idea of one bad day could change everybody.

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That was the whole thing of killing joke and

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everything like that. And they even now have

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a comic series called one bad day and it's dealing

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with the villains and kind of like what sets

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them over the edge. And so it's. Especially with

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that now. It's very believable that Martha could

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do something like this, where she could become

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the Joker. That's Flashpoint Paradox. That's

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basically all you need to know about that. It

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was just a comparison thing. This one deals with

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that Zod's here, and then it also deals with

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who's the other bad person? Well, really, it's

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the three. The three that were the bad people

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in the original, or in the Man of Steel. Okay.

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They're all back. Oh, no. Yeah, right. And also,

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when the Flash goes back in time, he enters,

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like, this time orb. Okay. Which is, that's a

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strange twist on things, because I like the fact

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that in Flashpoint Paradox, it's basically just

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time as this, like, line you're not going toward

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you're not sitting there trying to figure out

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where you enter things because like they stop

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running and they're just in this orb and they're

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just peek through like oh is this this timeline

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oh it's this point in the timeline and it's really

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bad uh cgi at one of these points too you know

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how in thor love and thunder there's a kid's

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face is floating yeah oh no Oh, yeah, it's that.

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He pokes his head through, and it's just kind

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of like, oh. Ah, nope. It's really bad. Yeah,

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so, but he's in this, like, time orb, and as

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he messes with things, more and more are starting

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to collide on it, and so you get a lot of cameos.

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Okay. I can spoil them for you. Yeah, I mean,

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go for it. I'm not going to watch this movie.

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Spoilers if you care. Well, yeah, there's going

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to be spoilers, yes. But I mean, for you guys.

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No, I told you already. I already know. One of

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the cameos is the Kevin Smith Superman. Oh. That's

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right. Nick Cage as Superman makes an appearance.

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Okay, Nick Cage is in this movie. All right,

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shit. Yes. It's all for like 50 seconds. Sure.

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There's like one part where all the worlds start

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to collide and everything like that. There's

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also this creature that's in the time orb and

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basically is attacking the Flash when he tries

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to go back and everything like that. You learn

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that it is the other Barry. Because there's two

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of them. Exactly. And that Barry doesn't want

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to give up on the timeline. Basically, that Barry

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is like, no, we saved our mom. We can do this.

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I'm going to go back this time and I'll do this

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to Zod. He's evil Buzz Lightyear. Yeah. exactly

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like i'll do this to zod and i'll i'll be able

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to save them then and everything will be okay

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and nope he fails again it fails again fails

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again fails again and our barry realizes the

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only way to solve it is his mom's gotta die and

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so he goes back and he's the one that kills his

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own mother wow so that's that's yeah and he also

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um one of the things that happens it or no Sorry,

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I'm just sorry. I take that all back. No, he

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doesn't kill his own mother. No, he's thinking

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about it, but he's not going to do it. He lets

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just the he just doesn't interfere anymore. But

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he goes to the store where his dad was supposed

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to be getting tomatoes for a tomato sauce. And

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the thing he does is, A, he sees his mother and

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B, the dad, they found like a clip of the fact

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that he might be at the store and not killing

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the mom. but he has his hat on and he's looking

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down. So what Barry does was he puts the tomatoes

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on the top shelf so that he has to look for it

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there and his face is clear to the camera. So

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he kind of like clears his dad's name. Oh, okay.

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I know what you're thinking. He saved his mom

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and the whole world went to shit and Zod's back.

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How can you do this and not have any problems?

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You know what? I didn't think that, but yeah,

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good point. Stan? Is there an answer to that?

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Everything seems fine. Okay. He wins the court

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case. His dad gets his appeal. He gets released

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from jail. And Barry goes to celebrate with Bruce

00:17:41.099 --> 00:17:45.839
Wayne, who was able to get him the footage. Yeah.

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And Bruce Wayne is played by George Clooney.

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He's back, bitch. Oh. Bat nipples. Is he wearing

00:17:54.470 --> 00:17:57.009
the nipple suit? No, it is literally, it's him

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as Bruce Wayne. It's as Bruce Wayne, okay. Yeah,

00:17:58.869 --> 00:18:01.009
yeah. Okay. That's fine, that's great. Okay.

00:18:01.410 --> 00:18:04.769
He like pulls up in like a super fancy car and,

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you know, he steps out and they make a whole

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deal and he's just like, Barry, I'm so glad we

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won. And Barry's looking at him like, Bruce?

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Bruce? Fade to black. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty

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much exactly that. Okay, well, so I get some

00:18:19.140 --> 00:18:21.019
high -level questions for you here, right? Okay.

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Does this kind of put a neat little bow on the

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Spider - or the Spider -Verse, the Snyder -Verse?

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No. No? No. If anything, they made more questions,

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because now everything's connected. Okay. You

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know, because, like, and, like, they address

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multiverse and everything like that, so I guess

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technically, yes. Yeah. But now everything is

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connected. Where we got George Clooney now as

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Batman. Okay, is George Clooney going to be Batman

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in the new DC Universe? Is Ezra Miller going

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to be back? Ezra Miller is definitely not going

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to be back in a way. Reports are all saying that

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they love Ezra. Really? And that was the thing.

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I'm sitting here going, I can't believe this.

00:19:04.380 --> 00:19:06.079
I can't believe this. We might get another movie

00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:09.000
with Ezra Miller as The Flash. There was a thing

00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:12.359
that the studio was like, if it made a lot of

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money. but it didn't make a lot of that's the

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problem right i i do have a question i know you

00:19:17.609 --> 00:19:19.170
already asked you have more andre but i want

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to sneak one in um are you i don't know if you

00:19:23.369 --> 00:19:25.910
ever thought it was going to happen but were

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you disappointed it's too strong of a word let

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down is that better that christian bale batman

00:19:33.170 --> 00:19:37.720
was not oh my god even for like a 25 second music

00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:40.579
moment where like he zipped by. I would not want

00:19:40.579 --> 00:19:42.059
him in there. Would you have wanted that? No,

00:19:42.059 --> 00:19:44.180
I really didn't. I was shocked with the Nicolas

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Cage and even that I was actually kind of a little

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disappointed more so with that because like this

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is a movie that didn't even get made and like

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we're just, it's a big old cock tease. Like,

00:19:54.950 --> 00:19:59.990
come on. But like, like, I think the best now,

00:20:00.109 --> 00:20:02.549
one of the, looking back on it, one of the qualities

00:20:02.549 --> 00:20:04.849
of the Nolan trilogy is age. The best is that

00:20:04.849 --> 00:20:07.410
it's not tied to anything else. Right. It's such

00:20:07.410 --> 00:20:10.210
a contained thing. Yeah. And it's in, and I guess

00:20:10.210 --> 00:20:12.569
on that note, like, so rubber, rubber Benson

00:20:12.569 --> 00:20:15.150
doesn't show up. Right. Like, please. Okay. Great.

00:20:15.170 --> 00:20:18.049
Robert Benson does not show up. And then I hope

00:20:18.049 --> 00:20:20.190
that that's the case. Right. Like, let that be

00:20:20.190 --> 00:20:23.190
its own thing. Literally. All we see is Keaton.

00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:29.500
uh nick cage uh and then there was a joke about

00:20:29.500 --> 00:20:32.799
uh adam west oh okay you know and like there

00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:34.799
wasn't much they could do with that one no right

00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:36.960
exactly and i mean like i don't even think it

00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:41.279
was footage of nick cage this year i think it

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was just him like standing there in the suit

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they had it on the cutting room floor and then

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it was kind of just like shit it was shadowed

00:20:48.259 --> 00:20:50.390
almost Oh, interesting. So do you think they

00:20:50.390 --> 00:20:52.210
just asked permission, like, hey, we have this

00:20:52.210 --> 00:20:53.529
old footage of you, we're going to use it for

00:20:53.529 --> 00:20:56.450
this cameo? Pretty much. I don't think it's actually

00:20:56.450 --> 00:20:58.309
that kind of stuff. The only one that actually

00:20:58.309 --> 00:21:00.670
makes an appearance is Keaton and Clooney. Because

00:21:00.670 --> 00:21:03.470
they had Wes, they had, and obviously they couldn't

00:21:03.470 --> 00:21:05.410
do anything with that. And then they have Nick

00:21:05.410 --> 00:21:08.549
Cage as Superman. The only other thing I'm thinking

00:21:08.549 --> 00:21:10.490
is there was another one, because they always

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come in threes, and I can't remember which one

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that one was. But that one wasn't anything important.

00:21:18.109 --> 00:21:20.450
is what i'll say um there definitely was something

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but i don't know what exactly um just because

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i don't remember exactly which one but it wasn't

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that big a deal oh christopher reeve christopher

00:21:29.349 --> 00:21:31.930
reeve was in there the original oh okay that's

00:21:31.930 --> 00:21:36.369
a good nod yeah so so the other question that

00:21:36.369 --> 00:21:39.630
i have is if we being in different you know alternate

00:21:39.630 --> 00:21:44.269
universes dcu is not gonna get the big reset

00:21:44.269 --> 00:21:48.509
button treatment probably not have fixed the

00:21:48.509 --> 00:21:52.430
problem with the dcu no there we go i'm just

00:21:52.430 --> 00:21:55.569
gonna say it now um i think just because we still

00:21:55.569 --> 00:22:00.549
have to lay the groundwork and gun's gonna lay

00:22:00.549 --> 00:22:04.130
the groundwork his way and i don't you could

00:22:04.130 --> 00:22:06.710
definitely attach some of this to this movie

00:22:06.710 --> 00:22:09.589
and go like yeah this is just a different multiverse

00:22:09.589 --> 00:22:18.220
like this is yeah earth 412 um I just think this

00:22:18.220 --> 00:22:20.900
is just going to be what it is, which is just

00:22:20.900 --> 00:22:23.339
a standalone movie that doesn't get drawn to

00:22:23.339 --> 00:22:27.200
anything else. We also saw a trailer for the

00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:30.559
Blue Beetle. I like those trailers. I'm like,

00:22:30.619 --> 00:22:34.019
I think this is surviving. It's... I don't know,

00:22:34.019 --> 00:22:37.000
man. It's so hard to care. Why even put it out?

00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:40.660
Why even put it in theaters then? But also, at

00:22:40.660 --> 00:22:42.380
the same time, do you remember when we were all

00:22:42.380 --> 00:22:44.619
freaking gutted when they just decided to totally

00:22:44.619 --> 00:22:47.720
can the Batgirl movie? Yeah, but that was a movie

00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:49.480
starring a female protagonist, so they figured

00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:50.880
they could get away with it and no one would

00:22:50.880 --> 00:22:54.559
blink an eye. I guess so. Right, but I'm just

00:22:54.559 --> 00:22:56.440
saying that's still a bad outcome too, but I'm

00:22:56.440 --> 00:22:59.809
just saying it's... It's damned if you do, damned

00:22:59.809 --> 00:23:02.029
if you don't, really, at this point, right? And

00:23:02.029 --> 00:23:04.710
because he's Latino, you know, like... Oh, that

00:23:04.710 --> 00:23:06.670
would just be horrible for headlines. Exactly.

00:23:06.829 --> 00:23:08.670
And that would kill everything. I mean, that

00:23:08.670 --> 00:23:10.390
would literally kill everything if they didn't

00:23:10.390 --> 00:23:13.109
release this one. I'm surprised they're still

00:23:13.109 --> 00:23:17.009
releasing Aquaman 2. I wonder if that's... Well,

00:23:17.049 --> 00:23:19.289
because Aquaman 1 did pretty decent, right? Yeah,

00:23:19.289 --> 00:23:23.109
but what is it... Because of the post -pandemic

00:23:23.109 --> 00:23:25.170
world we live in with movie releases and Disney's

00:23:25.170 --> 00:23:28.279
kind of... needs to figure this out too if you

00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:32.519
have a streaming platform you can do things where

00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:34.799
it's in theaters and 30 days later it's on said

00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:36.700
platform you could do it for free you could do

00:23:36.700 --> 00:23:39.500
it for 15 20 bucks like the way they did with

00:23:39.500 --> 00:23:43.200
mulan right like something like blue beetle i

00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:46.779
understand probably the list of reasons the execs

00:23:46.779 --> 00:23:49.619
have about why it has to happen in theaters versus

00:23:49.619 --> 00:23:53.200
put this on max make it five dollars and try

00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:56.099
and get in new subscribers that way well that's

00:23:56.099 --> 00:23:59.740
what i was shocked by batgirl was that they had

00:23:59.740 --> 00:24:02.920
90 of the movie done right yeah like it was it

00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:05.480
cost more money to shelve it at this point than

00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:07.660
it does to finish it just put on max if you're

00:24:07.660 --> 00:24:10.079
not confident with it but it happened at a really

00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:12.160
it happened at a bad time what i would say the

00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:15.259
aquaman is i wonder even with even the same blue

00:24:15.259 --> 00:24:17.500
beetle i bet that these are discussions they

00:24:17.500 --> 00:24:19.750
have had And they've come up with reasons why.

00:24:19.910 --> 00:24:21.509
And I wonder if one of the reasons for Aquaman

00:24:21.509 --> 00:24:23.549
is like Jason Momoa is like, if you do this,

00:24:23.670 --> 00:24:25.990
like contact, you don't want to burn that bridge.

00:24:26.069 --> 00:24:27.650
You don't want to burn that bridge. And also

00:24:27.650 --> 00:24:29.910
maybe a breach of contract. Yeah. Right. They

00:24:29.910 --> 00:24:32.490
did just put him as the villain in fast X. So

00:24:32.490 --> 00:24:35.549
like, he's not, I don't know how fast X goes,

00:24:35.670 --> 00:24:38.009
but I'm guessing they're going to keep him around.

00:24:38.150 --> 00:24:41.789
So he's not someone they want to piss off right

00:24:41.789 --> 00:24:46.730
now. Yeah. Yeah. I'm intrigued. I don't know

00:24:46.730 --> 00:24:47.990
where they're going to go with this. I don't

00:24:47.990 --> 00:24:50.410
know what the big reset button is going to be.

00:24:50.650 --> 00:24:52.509
I think there's still going to be a big reset

00:24:52.509 --> 00:24:55.269
button. I really do. I really thought that this

00:24:55.269 --> 00:24:57.490
was going to be it. This movie was going to end.

00:24:57.809 --> 00:25:01.369
The way that they were talking about this movie

00:25:01.369 --> 00:25:04.630
in context of James Gunn's DC vision was that

00:25:04.630 --> 00:25:07.269
I had this idea in my head that they tacked on

00:25:07.269 --> 00:25:10.269
a new ending to like, oh. They absolutely fucked

00:25:10.269 --> 00:25:12.410
the timeline and the Snyder universe is gone

00:25:12.410 --> 00:25:16.690
and it's going to be a new horizon. Well, the

00:25:16.690 --> 00:25:18.410
only reason I say no is because of the Superman

00:25:18.410 --> 00:25:21.130
legacy castings. Okay. Yeah. Because they are

00:25:21.130 --> 00:25:24.289
starting from pretty young Superman. Right. And

00:25:24.289 --> 00:25:26.569
well, and James Gunn said as much that he wants

00:25:26.569 --> 00:25:29.569
it to be a younger Superman or like mid -ish

00:25:29.569 --> 00:25:31.150
20s or something like that. Right. Is what he's

00:25:31.150 --> 00:25:32.829
going for. Which could have been fine for this

00:25:32.829 --> 00:25:35.789
movie if that's the age Superman was. Superman

00:25:35.789 --> 00:25:40.589
wasn't that age. So, yeah. Okay. Well, where

00:25:40.589 --> 00:25:43.029
does it rank? I mean, please don't go through

00:25:43.029 --> 00:25:45.289
the ranking of all the DC movies, but just on

00:25:45.289 --> 00:25:49.809
average, how is this ranking for the DC? What's

00:25:49.809 --> 00:25:54.970
their batting average? So, I'm going to pull

00:25:54.970 --> 00:25:59.170
up my rankings real quick. I have them in the

00:25:59.170 --> 00:26:02.369
letterboxd. Oh, okay, perfect. The DCEU, I have

00:26:02.369 --> 00:26:08.779
it in a list. DCEU, let's see. So I have Wonder

00:26:08.779 --> 00:26:12.180
Woman, Shazam, The Suicide Squad, Birds of Prey,

00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:15.140
Aquaman. That's probably where it goes after.

00:26:15.859 --> 00:26:19.680
After Aquaman. Have you seen Shazam 2? I have

00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:22.880
not seen Shazam 2 because of word of mouth. So

00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:25.099
that will be not included in this ranking. That

00:26:25.099 --> 00:26:26.700
will not be included in this ranking, but I'm

00:26:26.700 --> 00:26:28.900
pretty confident. I feel pretty good about the

00:26:28.900 --> 00:26:30.519
fact that it's going to go in the Wonder Woman

00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:35.440
1984 Batman v Superman territory. Where does

00:26:37.259 --> 00:26:40.660
the snyder cut go right after flash right after

00:26:40.660 --> 00:26:42.740
flash okay so you like this a little bit better

00:26:42.740 --> 00:26:44.700
than the snyder a little bit better and again

00:26:44.700 --> 00:26:47.759
i think the reason i like it a little bit is

00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:52.259
because um it's not four hours long yeah i mean

00:26:52.259 --> 00:26:54.380
that's that's a big thing in its favor i guess

00:26:54.380 --> 00:26:59.240
yeah and i mean like the snyder cut is is leaps

00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:01.819
and bounds better than it should be The issue

00:27:01.819 --> 00:27:05.460
that I had is that it's four hours. They should

00:27:05.460 --> 00:27:10.000
have kept that as a miniseries or whatever. That's

00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:14.400
how I perceive it. You sit down, you watch it,

00:27:14.420 --> 00:27:16.380
and then when a title drop happens for the next

00:27:16.380 --> 00:27:18.900
one, you pause and you leave. Take a half an

00:27:18.900 --> 00:27:23.900
hour break. Or whatever. Get another beer. I'm

00:27:23.900 --> 00:27:27.720
getting hammered watching the Snyder. It's just

00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:29.859
as cohesive whether you're sober or drunk, man.

00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.519
I mean, whatever. If you watched it in gray.

00:27:33.220 --> 00:27:38.259
Yeah. Yeah, so I would say it's right about there.

00:27:39.380 --> 00:27:42.059
What is that? Quantify that into a rank of out

00:27:42.059 --> 00:27:45.779
of five. I'll say three out of five. Three out

00:27:45.779 --> 00:27:49.099
of five time orbs. Sure. Without Ezra Miller,

00:27:49.299 --> 00:27:53.049
I think it could go to a 3 .5. Cool. And that's

00:27:53.049 --> 00:27:55.109
what's tough, too, is because, like I said, it

00:27:55.109 --> 00:27:58.009
just takes my enjoyment away seeing them. And

00:27:58.009 --> 00:28:01.970
it's hard because they are 100 % in this movie.

00:28:02.069 --> 00:28:06.109
If it's not our Lionberry, it's the other Lionberry.

00:28:06.390 --> 00:28:08.789
It could be two different characters, but it's

00:28:08.789 --> 00:28:12.269
still Ezra Miller. Yeah, they're such a huge

00:28:12.269 --> 00:28:14.269
focus, they're in there twice, right? Exactly.

00:28:14.970 --> 00:28:18.109
And that's another reason why I said I wouldn't

00:28:18.109 --> 00:28:20.829
be shocked if DC goes and says, we're going to

00:28:20.829 --> 00:28:24.069
keep Ezra Miller. I really hope not. God forbid.

00:28:24.589 --> 00:28:28.849
Maybe they just don't even care about the optics

00:28:28.849 --> 00:28:30.970
anymore. They're like, we survived it. We're

00:28:30.970 --> 00:28:33.529
through. Another thing about that is there's

00:28:33.529 --> 00:28:36.269
jokes in this about drugging people and stuff

00:28:36.269 --> 00:28:40.789
like that. This was clearly written before. It

00:28:40.789 --> 00:28:43.670
was filmed in 2019 or something like that. Half

00:28:43.670 --> 00:28:46.349
of it was filmed while these things were happening.

00:28:47.069 --> 00:28:52.980
Got it. When they were in Hawaii. fun so yeah

00:28:52.980 --> 00:28:56.720
um i'll say three out of five time orbs um 3

00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:59.059
.5 if it was somebody other than ezra miller

00:28:59.059 --> 00:29:03.039
but yeah i mean it's not bad um and while we're

00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:05.460
on the subject i'll say that the flashpoint paradox

00:29:05.460 --> 00:29:08.579
gets a four out of five okay uh wait a minute

00:29:08.579 --> 00:29:10.440
hold on hold on hold on is the flashpoint paradox

00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:13.059
is that the movie so if there's like the meme

00:29:13.059 --> 00:29:16.920
of like of of reverse flash like kicking flash's

00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:19.960
face in the ground saying it was me barry i was

00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:22.799
the one who you know technically yes but that's

00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:24.680
not actually what happens that's the funny thing

00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:27.140
about it all right because the flash was like

00:29:27.140 --> 00:29:29.319
calling him out going like what did you do and

00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:32.319
he goes that's the best part barry i did none

00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:35.220
of this this was you and okay so it's the exact

00:29:35.220 --> 00:29:36.759
opposite of what actually happened but like exactly

00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:39.200
yeah somebody took it dubbed it over and yeah

00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:42.000
exactly no this was actually like his fault like

00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:44.930
apparently zoom That's that's what they call

00:29:44.930 --> 00:29:47.430
him, like Dr. Zoom or something like that. I

00:29:47.430 --> 00:29:49.490
can't remember exactly. It's they even mentioned

00:29:49.490 --> 00:29:51.990
it's reverse flash, but they don't they don't

00:29:51.990 --> 00:29:54.730
call him the same thing. It's Thawne is his name.

00:29:54.849 --> 00:29:57.089
Right. But that isn't that isn't Thawne like

00:29:57.089 --> 00:29:59.009
his like real name or whatever. I don't know.

00:29:59.049 --> 00:30:02.710
I don't know. Eobald Thawne or something. Eobard.

00:30:03.329 --> 00:30:05.349
He's the mean. He's the guy. He's the yellow

00:30:05.349 --> 00:30:09.230
flash who's mean and not nice. And that's the

00:30:09.230 --> 00:30:12.029
funny thing, too, is like when he wakes up in

00:30:12.029 --> 00:30:18.369
this new world. um basically he's left a ring

00:30:18.369 --> 00:30:22.589
with thomas wayne okay and so like it's that's

00:30:22.589 --> 00:30:23.910
what keeps the suit and everything like that

00:30:23.910 --> 00:30:28.490
so he like launches it and is it his suit no

00:30:28.490 --> 00:30:30.970
of course not it's the yellow flash suit and

00:30:30.970 --> 00:30:33.549
basically thomas wayne's just like yeah he wants

00:30:33.549 --> 00:30:37.490
you to know that he did this oh okay gotcha so

00:30:37.490 --> 00:30:41.069
yeah i'll give that a four out of five uh batman

00:30:41.069 --> 00:30:46.619
guns Flashpoint. This is the Flashpoint. Because

00:30:46.619 --> 00:30:49.799
Thomas Wayne uses guns. There's no anti -gun.

00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:55.200
That's fine. I'm not going to get down. I'm not

00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:57.160
going to go down the 20 minute diatribe of why

00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:59.359
Batman should never use guns. But Thomas Wayne,

00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:03.559
that's fine. It's an alternate universe. That's

00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:06.150
fine. right it's not bruce wayne doing that i

00:31:06.150 --> 00:31:08.970
guess right this is where my line is and basically

00:31:08.970 --> 00:31:11.630
he's just come to the conclusion that like this

00:31:11.630 --> 00:31:14.230
solves problems get rid of people there's also

00:31:14.230 --> 00:31:17.250
not harley quinn there's yo -yo yo -yo might

00:31:17.250 --> 00:31:20.329
as well be harley quinn okay sure yeah all right

00:31:20.329 --> 00:31:25.789
makes sense yeah yeah so uh talking about batshit

00:31:25.789 --> 00:31:29.569
crazy stuff yeah Let's get real batshit crazy.

00:31:29.849 --> 00:31:33.470
Yeah, let's get nuts. Batman might not kill people,

00:31:33.630 --> 00:31:36.190
but you know what does kill people? Bears that

00:31:36.190 --> 00:31:39.410
are addicted to cocaine. And cocaine. And cocaine.

00:31:40.910 --> 00:31:45.710
Bears, cocaine. Cocaine, bears. And Battlestar

00:31:45.710 --> 00:31:48.890
Galactica. A lot of people die in Battlestar

00:31:48.890 --> 00:31:50.369
Galactica. Most of the human race does, actually.

00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:54.319
it's kind of a bummer yeah talk cocaine bear

00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:58.000
cocaine bear yeah the movie that captured uh

00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:01.640
and you know 15 seconds of fame because of the

00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:04.660
wackadoo concept the wackadoo trailer and the

00:32:04.660 --> 00:32:07.680
crazy poster and then a fair amount of people

00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:10.680
i guess saw it because per wikipedia they grossed

00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.160
89 million dollars oh that's not bad okay budget

00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.579
made for 30 to 35 million so are you ready for

00:32:17.579 --> 00:32:20.240
feeding cocaine to are you ready for the are

00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.700
you ready for the cocaine uh universe because

00:32:22.700 --> 00:32:27.160
there is a movie universe there is a there is

00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:32.859
a movie coming out uh that is something uh because

00:32:32.859 --> 00:32:35.619
there's cocaine shark That already exists. Oh,

00:32:35.660 --> 00:32:39.380
no. Was it like a B -movie, like Sharknado? Yes.

00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:41.640
There's something on the Wikipedia page about

00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:43.579
it. Are you trying to imply that this isn't a

00:32:43.579 --> 00:32:46.859
B -movie? Like, come on. No, but compared to

00:32:46.859 --> 00:32:52.079
Cocaine Shark. Yes. No, I'm talking about Cracoon.

00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:57.119
Cracoon. Oh. crack addicted raccoon you mean

00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.359
is this confirmed in the same universe from everything

00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:03.119
everywhere all at once okay because funny enough

00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:06.200
there also opens a time orb halfway through the

00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:09.900
movie and yeah right yeah it's crazy i just don't

00:33:09.900 --> 00:33:12.119
know which which uh drugged up animal universe

00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:15.240
we're talking about here okay so it's a book

00:33:16.009 --> 00:33:18.150
Oh, it's a book. Okay, got it. Well, this is

00:33:18.150 --> 00:33:19.849
based off of a true story, supposedly. Yeah,

00:33:19.849 --> 00:33:22.890
very loosely based off a true story. I think

00:33:22.890 --> 00:33:25.430
they definitely take some liberties. So wait,

00:33:25.650 --> 00:33:27.890
here's Cracoon the book. When a synthetically

00:33:27.890 --> 00:33:30.329
altered street drug is discarded in the woods

00:33:30.329 --> 00:33:32.390
by a drug dealer during a car chase with police,

00:33:32.650 --> 00:33:34.650
the fallout proves nothing less than horrific

00:33:34.650 --> 00:33:37.500
when an innocent raccoon eats it. transforming

00:33:37.500 --> 00:33:40.140
it into a nightmarish killing machine straight

00:33:40.140 --> 00:33:43.180
from the bowels of hell wow the teenage mutant

00:33:43.180 --> 00:33:46.039
ninja turtles to do a psa about why crack is

00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:49.000
smack yeah see the only thing the teenage ninja

00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:51.460
turtles are addicted to is pizza yeah did you

00:33:51.460 --> 00:33:54.220
see the like original meme about the cocaine

00:33:54.220 --> 00:33:57.500
bear when that was no it was literally like um

00:33:57.500 --> 00:34:01.420
there was a bit because it is loosely based on

00:34:01.420 --> 00:34:03.740
a true story there was a bear that found like

00:34:04.140 --> 00:34:08.280
75 pounds of cocaine. I have it right in front

00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:11.460
of me. And it lived for 48 hours or something

00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:14.280
like that. And somebody goes, literally, just

00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.500
imagine that was the apex predator. Like a bear

00:34:17.500 --> 00:34:22.320
on 75 pounds of cocaine that lived for 48 hours.

00:34:23.780 --> 00:34:28.059
I mean, to be honest. So, I mean, spoilers, I

00:34:28.059 --> 00:34:30.760
guess, a little bit. This movie, directed by

00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:33.679
Elizabeth Banks, stars Kerry Russell, Margo Martindale,

00:34:33.900 --> 00:34:37.500
the guy who played young Han Solo, Alden. Alden,

00:34:37.500 --> 00:34:44.179
yeah. Alden, Aaron Rake. Aaron Rake. Ray Liotta,

00:34:44.179 --> 00:34:48.099
may he rest in peace, Jesse Tyler Ferguson. This

00:34:48.099 --> 00:34:51.099
movie is crazy. I would say... I'm just gonna...

00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:53.940
I just preface that if you've ever seen the movie

00:34:53.940 --> 00:34:58.059
Tucker and Dale versus evil and you liked that.

00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:02.559
Oh, I love it. Bear is not a better movie, but

00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.900
it's in that. There are, there are vibes of horror

00:35:05.900 --> 00:35:12.099
comedy, but like absurdist, like a cube time,

00:35:12.300 --> 00:35:16.409
the gore. Yeah. Okay. so what i was going to

00:35:16.409 --> 00:35:18.449
say is like the crazy thing is that the amount

00:35:18.449 --> 00:35:20.889
of cocaine this bear does is all at once this

00:35:20.889 --> 00:35:27.130
bear is either oh no the bear doesn't try cocaine

00:35:27.130 --> 00:35:31.650
one time they rise at multiple times and clearly

00:35:31.650 --> 00:35:34.010
gets addicted to it they use clearly cocaine

00:35:34.010 --> 00:35:37.510
to lure the bear away like a like a piece of

00:35:37.510 --> 00:35:40.010
cartoon meat right yeah lots of packets of cocaine

00:35:40.010 --> 00:35:42.010
and it's like it's more impressive that it just

00:35:42.010 --> 00:35:44.409
doesn't die because of how much cocaine it does

00:35:44.590 --> 00:35:47.929
right over a prolonged amount of time um the

00:35:47.929 --> 00:35:52.090
plot is that you know there's a plot there there's

00:35:52.090 --> 00:35:55.150
there's actually two technically three concurrent

00:35:55.150 --> 00:35:58.789
plots going on man so one plot is the cocaine

00:35:58.789 --> 00:36:01.769
itself it landed in i think georgia tennessee

00:36:01.769 --> 00:36:06.630
knoxville um in the woods So not Knoxville proper.

00:36:07.369 --> 00:36:10.130
So it's a bunch of drug dealers going to the

00:36:10.130 --> 00:36:12.449
woods to get the pick up because they have to

00:36:12.449 --> 00:36:14.150
find it. Oh, no, you're right. It is in Northeast

00:36:14.150 --> 00:36:16.570
Georgia. I'm sorry. I apologize. Oh, come on

00:36:16.570 --> 00:36:21.190
now. I know. So one plot is them going to get

00:36:21.190 --> 00:36:23.210
the money, going to get the cocaine so then they

00:36:23.210 --> 00:36:26.369
can sell it, obviously. Another plot is, I think,

00:36:26.369 --> 00:36:28.730
like a 12, 13 -year -old girl and her friend

00:36:28.730 --> 00:36:32.190
decide to play hooky from school and go into

00:36:32.190 --> 00:36:37.309
the woods to do some shenanigans. And plot C

00:36:37.309 --> 00:36:44.969
slash 3A, 3B. The plot 3 has a couple little

00:36:44.969 --> 00:36:48.550
bits. There is Margo Martindale as a park ranger

00:36:48.550 --> 00:36:52.449
who is alerted to the dangers of the bear. One

00:36:52.449 --> 00:36:55.739
of the best villains ever. Character actress

00:36:55.739 --> 00:36:59.659
Margot Martindale. She was in season three of

00:36:59.659 --> 00:37:01.800
Justified. Season two or three. I haven't seen

00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:04.539
it. Oh, it's so good. It's a shame her character

00:37:04.539 --> 00:37:07.300
does not survive this movie. Spoilers. I said

00:37:07.300 --> 00:37:10.579
spoilers. There's no spoilers. Come on. There's

00:37:10.579 --> 00:37:12.760
her plot. It's a fucking cocaine bear. And she's

00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:13.860
a little cute thing with Jesse Tyler Ferguson.

00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.760
There's like three little punks who are stealing

00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.380
money from the park ranger's office. And then

00:37:19.380 --> 00:37:21.400
shenanigans happens with them. And then there

00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:25.739
is by far my favorite character. Okay. the there's

00:37:25.739 --> 00:37:32.679
a detective cop lieutenant um that's not ponytail

00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:36.179
right no and now of course i'm trying to remember

00:37:36.179 --> 00:37:38.019
his name my favorite character and i can't even

00:37:38.019 --> 00:37:42.719
remember his name so sad his dog though rosette's

00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:46.460
owner oh oh isaiah whitlock jr yes who plays

00:37:47.940 --> 00:37:52.880
He's from The Wire. He's the center for The Wire.

00:37:53.019 --> 00:37:57.539
Then there is Bob, Detective Cop something or

00:37:57.539 --> 00:38:01.340
other, who is on the lookout and he gets tipped

00:38:01.340 --> 00:38:03.780
off that there are drug dealers in the area.

00:38:03.940 --> 00:38:07.519
His path crosses with them. At the same time,

00:38:07.619 --> 00:38:11.539
he just adopted a new dog named Rosette. He's

00:38:11.539 --> 00:38:14.469
still getting accustomed to Rosette. So there's

00:38:14.469 --> 00:38:18.389
a whole emotional journey there. And from there,

00:38:18.510 --> 00:38:22.010
the bear just wreaks shenanigans and mayhem.

00:38:22.289 --> 00:38:25.010
He kills a lot of people. Your favorite word

00:38:25.010 --> 00:38:28.349
is shenanigans, isn't it? There's a lot of shenanigans

00:38:28.349 --> 00:38:30.269
in this movie. The next person that says shenanigans

00:38:30.269 --> 00:38:32.130
gets pistol whipped. Take a drink every time

00:38:32.130 --> 00:38:34.250
someone says shenanigans. There is some pistol

00:38:34.250 --> 00:38:39.420
whipping in this movie, isn't there? Yeah. this

00:38:39.420 --> 00:38:42.980
movie doesn't waste a lot of time to get to what

00:38:42.980 --> 00:38:45.199
everybody came to the table to see a bear on

00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:48.440
cocaine killing people raccoon got it yeah yeah

00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:51.500
and like in and you mentioned that you saw the

00:38:51.500 --> 00:38:53.360
ambulance scene which is kind of in the middle

00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:56.440
of the movie um that's probably the best part

00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:58.199
of the movie i think that's the most bonkers

00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:01.000
like yeah well that's like the most like this

00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:03.460
is the thesis statement of the movie right there

00:39:03.460 --> 00:39:08.030
he just runs down an ambulance yeah somehow Margo

00:39:08.030 --> 00:39:10.389
Martindale accidentally shoots somebody in the

00:39:10.389 --> 00:39:14.409
goddamn face. Yeah. Pops his head like a melon.

00:39:15.010 --> 00:39:20.050
And then the face against the gravel. She's bleeding

00:39:20.050 --> 00:39:22.369
out because she's been clawed by a bear multiple

00:39:22.369 --> 00:39:29.170
times. In the ass. In the ass. Yeah. That's Cocaine

00:39:29.170 --> 00:39:32.989
Bear. Is it the best Ray Liotta performance?

00:39:33.670 --> 00:39:38.269
No, no, not even really close. You know, I think

00:39:38.269 --> 00:39:40.070
I think a part of him would be proud that he

00:39:40.070 --> 00:39:42.349
could say that this is my last film appearance.

00:39:42.809 --> 00:39:45.389
OK, there's not many people. There's not many

00:39:45.389 --> 00:39:47.769
people that can say their last movie was Cocaine

00:39:47.769 --> 00:39:51.989
Bear. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Was it my favorite

00:39:51.989 --> 00:39:54.269
movie in the world? No. Did I feel like my time

00:39:54.269 --> 00:39:56.590
was wasted a little bit? Did I have some fun?

00:39:56.710 --> 00:39:59.409
I did. Oh, technically his last movie was Fool's

00:39:59.409 --> 00:40:03.059
Paradise. I haven't heard of that. That's the

00:40:03.059 --> 00:40:08.900
Charlie Day movie. Oh! Is that out? Yeah. Oh,

00:40:08.980 --> 00:40:13.320
yeah. Yeah, that's out. It's almost on TV already

00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.780
because it's so bad, apparently. Oh, really?

00:40:15.980 --> 00:40:19.170
It didn't look very good. Yeah. He plays, like,

00:40:19.190 --> 00:40:21.349
a silent idiot, right? Yeah, and the funny thing

00:40:21.349 --> 00:40:23.449
is, like, I kind of like the premise, but apparently

00:40:23.449 --> 00:40:26.429
it's just, nope. Oof, 16 % of Rotten Tomatoes.

00:40:26.429 --> 00:40:28.190
That's not great. Yeah, it might be one of the

00:40:28.190 --> 00:40:31.510
next bad movies. Yeah. This was, uh, did Andre

00:40:31.510 --> 00:40:33.349
pay to see it? No, because we checked it out

00:40:33.349 --> 00:40:34.710
from our local library. That's true, we did use

00:40:34.710 --> 00:40:36.289
our local library. Yeah, it's the library. That

00:40:36.289 --> 00:40:39.130
was the appropriate method to use. Yeah, no,

00:40:39.250 --> 00:40:41.750
it's just, get some beers, get some friends,

00:40:41.949 --> 00:40:44.130
get some substances if you partake. You'll have

00:40:44.130 --> 00:40:45.309
a fun time with cocaine there. Actually, that

00:40:45.309 --> 00:40:46.630
sounds like a good idea. But also, don't do cocaine.

00:40:47.860 --> 00:40:52.300
Don't do cocaine. The movie is very clear about

00:40:52.300 --> 00:40:56.199
cocaine bad. Cocaine is bad. I was just thinking

00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:59.420
of what Ray Liotta movie I saw recently. I rewatched

00:40:59.420 --> 00:41:03.219
Identity. If you've never seen that one. It's

00:41:03.219 --> 00:41:07.659
a good one. Go for it. I'll tell you what I'm

00:41:07.659 --> 00:41:10.960
thinking. It's like 10 people at a hotel and

00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:13.340
they're stuck there for the night and they get

00:41:13.340 --> 00:41:17.599
picked off one by one by one. And Ray Liotta

00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:22.340
is a cop that has a prison transport that he's

00:41:22.340 --> 00:41:27.559
responsible for and everything. And I'm trying

00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:30.579
to think who else is in this movie. What's his

00:41:30.579 --> 00:41:35.960
name? Shoot. Crap. We're doing so well on remembering

00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:39.360
people's names today. Oh, but it's directed by

00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:43.260
James Mangold. Oh, okay. John Cusack. That's

00:41:43.260 --> 00:41:45.400
who it was. John Cusack and Amanda Peete. There

00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:48.920
also was Alfred Molina. And John C. McGinley.

00:41:49.820 --> 00:41:54.039
And Jake Busey, the brother of Gary Busey. So

00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:57.480
I'm verifying this, what I think it is. Was it

00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:02.119
Ray Liotta? No, I guess he's not. I thought Ray

00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:07.719
Liotta was in... the really bad He -Man Masters

00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.079
of the Universe movie from the 80s, but it's

00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:12.480
a Skeletor. It's not Ray Liotta. Oh, no, it's

00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:14.420
not Ray Liotta as Skeletor. That's for damn sure.

00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:20.260
How dare I? I don't know. I just can't imagine

00:42:20.260 --> 00:42:23.599
Ray Liotta as Skeletor. I'm looking at his Wikipedia

00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:26.239
page. He's in Muppets from Space. Skeletor was

00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:31.460
Franklin Jella. Franklin Jella, Ray Liotta. No.

00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:37.880
I don't see it. No, not at all. He's in Muppets

00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:42.719
from Space. Oh my God, no. Yes, he is. I'm looking

00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:46.719
right at it. No, no, that's not. You know what

00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:48.400
I'm talking about. He's also in the Bee movie.

00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.639
Really? He's in all of these movies. He's in

00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.139
Charlie St. Cloud. Great movie. He's been in

00:42:55.139 --> 00:42:58.619
a lot of movies. I know, but I'm enjoying all

00:42:58.619 --> 00:43:00.760
the movies I've seen him in are the worst ones.

00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:04.599
Have you seen The Goodfellas? No, I've never

00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:06.760
seen it. Or just Goodfellas, right? Goodfellas

00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:10.139
is excellent. He's in a bunch of those crime

00:43:10.139 --> 00:43:13.039
movies. I'm pretty sure he was in Casino, which

00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:17.320
is like... I think so? He's in Date Night, which

00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:19.920
I think Andre and I watched. Yeah, we did. Yeah,

00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:23.340
we did watch that. I know he's known for mobster

00:43:23.340 --> 00:43:25.519
movies, right? Yes, he's definitely known for

00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.480
mobster movies. QB Halloween. How did you guys

00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:31.750
not mention that one? I haven't seen it. He's

00:43:31.750 --> 00:43:33.969
in Field of Dreams. Haven't seen that either.

00:43:34.030 --> 00:43:35.949
I really want to watch Field of Dreams. No, he's

00:43:35.949 --> 00:43:38.489
also in Field of Dreams 1. I know, but Field

00:43:38.489 --> 00:43:40.650
of Dreams 2 as well. What's Field of Dreams 2?

00:43:41.050 --> 00:43:44.110
What's two Field of Dreams 2 faster? Field of

00:43:44.110 --> 00:43:47.750
Dreams 2 Lockout from 2011. It's a short, not

00:43:47.750 --> 00:43:50.769
a full movie. Lockout? Lockout. That doesn't

00:43:50.769 --> 00:43:53.449
sound like the same thing. No. Oh, he's in Blow.

00:43:53.690 --> 00:43:57.340
Haven't seen that. I've seen Blow. Wait, what?

00:43:58.059 --> 00:44:00.940
He's in Field Dreams 2. I'm looking at his filmography

00:44:00.940 --> 00:44:04.800
right now. He plays Roger Goodall. What? Not

00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:09.699
the same character? No. I don't know why. I think

00:44:09.699 --> 00:44:12.559
that's hilarious. That's awesome. You're welcome.

00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:15.360
He was Shoeless Joe, but he's actually somebody

00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:18.079
else in this movie. He's Shoeless Joe? I've heard

00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:21.920
of that. I haven't seen the movie. He was in

00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:25.630
Hannah Montana. Oh, wow. Great. I need to put

00:44:25.630 --> 00:44:29.030
a goddamn rating on this movie. No, you don't.

00:44:29.030 --> 00:44:31.150
You need to find out that he was Bob in Free

00:44:31.150 --> 00:44:35.929
Shirt. Alright, I give this one 2 .7 Park Rangers

00:44:35.929 --> 00:44:42.070
out of 5, okay? 2 .7? 2 .7? Yes, that third Park

00:44:42.070 --> 00:44:44.349
Ranger had their limb gnawed off by his back.

00:44:44.449 --> 00:44:54.400
0 .3 of it gone. I mean... I'll give it... give

00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:57.179
it a three like i have a fun time with it yeah

00:44:57.179 --> 00:44:59.260
i'll give it a three you know or fine i'll give

00:44:59.260 --> 00:45:04.599
it a 2 .97 out of five uh paint the rainbows

00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:06.739
a little pinky bit off there just a little pinky

00:45:06.739 --> 00:45:10.650
three pushes it into a higher echelon. This is

00:45:10.650 --> 00:45:11.469
so weird because I'm still hearing you so well

00:45:11.469 --> 00:45:13.289
where you're just like a little pinky and you've

00:45:13.289 --> 00:45:15.590
completely disappeared off the screen. I know.

00:45:15.610 --> 00:45:17.829
Well, it's because I'm grabbing another beverage,

00:45:18.090 --> 00:45:19.929
my friend. This is the beer fridges strategically

00:45:19.929 --> 00:45:21.969
placed right next to my computer so I can still

00:45:21.969 --> 00:45:24.289
use my headset. But, you know, let's just say

00:45:24.289 --> 00:45:26.809
Rosette is okay at the end of the movie. Yes,

00:45:26.889 --> 00:45:28.329
Rosette makes it through. You don't need to Google

00:45:28.329 --> 00:45:31.010
does the dog die? Rosette lives. Oh, thank God.

00:45:31.250 --> 00:45:33.369
Thank God the dog doesn't die. I would literally

00:45:33.369 --> 00:45:36.010
fight everybody. That's what I kept calling Audrey.

00:45:36.070 --> 00:45:37.409
I'm like, if that dog... Something happened to

00:45:37.409 --> 00:45:40.039
my dog. If something happens to an animal, like

00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:42.599
there's 10 out of 10 times I will ride against

00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:45.300
that movie. I mean, I also another appropriate

00:45:45.300 --> 00:45:49.699
rating would be 2 .97 out of five CGI bears.

00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:53.039
That's true. The bear CGI was a little rough.

00:45:53.420 --> 00:45:56.699
I don't know what you're talking about. I saw

00:45:56.699 --> 00:45:58.920
the trailer. It looked great. It's a real bear.

00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.000
It's a real bear. Real bear. They just gave it

00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:06.059
peanut butter so it could talk. Uh -huh. Oh,

00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:09.079
my God. All right, what's worse CGI? Hold up.

00:46:10.139 --> 00:46:14.280
Bear from Cocaine Bear. Or Talking Kangaroo Jack

00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:17.519
from Kangaroo Jack. Oh, my God. So actually,

00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:19.019
it's interesting you brought this up because

00:46:19.019 --> 00:46:22.840
this is like you recontextualize Kangaroo Jack.

00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:26.199
It could be Cocaine Bear, but Cocaine Kangaroo.

00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:30.880
They have a lot of parallelisms to a point. And

00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:33.519
with some like you go in and just some adjustments

00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:35.900
to the script. Cocaine Kangaroo. It actually

00:46:35.900 --> 00:46:38.139
sounds kind of good. We're going to make the

00:46:38.139 --> 00:46:41.679
crack universe. Co -kangaroo. Co -kangaroo. Co

00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:45.139
-kangaroo. I need to watch Kangaroo Jack again,

00:46:45.219 --> 00:46:47.820
but I think I'll prefer the CGI there. No, you

00:46:47.820 --> 00:46:50.300
do not need to watch Kangaroo Jack. You're not

00:46:50.300 --> 00:46:52.440
even trying to suspend disbelief there, you know

00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:54.059
what I mean? Isn't there a second Kangaroo Jack?

00:46:54.539 --> 00:46:56.099
They made two of them, yes. Isn't there an animated

00:46:56.099 --> 00:46:59.880
series, too? Yes, Today USA. Andre, if we're

00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:01.860
going to watch Kangaroo Jack, then we have to

00:47:01.860 --> 00:47:05.889
watch Paul Giamatti in Big Fat Liar. Big fat

00:47:05.889 --> 00:47:08.650
liar. I should have gotten an alcoholic beverage

00:47:08.650 --> 00:47:11.909
instead of the spin drift, but here we are. You're

00:47:11.909 --> 00:47:15.389
not drinking alcohol anymore? No. It's a school

00:47:15.389 --> 00:47:16.989
night, my friend. We're going to have some champagne

00:47:16.989 --> 00:47:20.469
tomorrow. Champagne tomorrow for reasons we talked

00:47:20.469 --> 00:47:23.849
about prior. And also just because we have room

00:47:23.849 --> 00:47:26.030
in the beer fridge and we need to get rid of

00:47:26.030 --> 00:47:29.510
it. That's the thing. Claire's in Cincinnati

00:47:29.510 --> 00:47:31.889
right now and she's driving back tomorrow with

00:47:31.889 --> 00:47:35.320
a bunch of beer. Nice. And so she goes, you better

00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:38.059
clear the fridge. So I'm like, oh, cool. I didn't

00:47:38.059 --> 00:47:40.619
expect to get drunk tonight, but here we are.

00:47:42.179 --> 00:47:47.019
Sometimes it just happens. I want to posit a

00:47:47.019 --> 00:47:49.460
thought experiment for a moment before we move

00:47:49.460 --> 00:47:52.159
into our next segue. Before we move into the

00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:55.579
next final bit. We're about to celebrate America's

00:47:55.579 --> 00:47:57.960
birthday, 4th of July. Happy Independence Day.

00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:02.219
Watch your movies. I was listening to a music

00:48:02.219 --> 00:48:04.840
podcast and they were talking about Bruce Springsteen,

00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:07.239
born in the USA. And they made the point that

00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:09.719
if you look at like the album cover, he is the

00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:13.139
original America's ass. Yes, he is. And like

00:48:13.139 --> 00:48:15.099
the whole story about that whole thing, too,

00:48:15.179 --> 00:48:17.699
where she was just kind of like she basically

00:48:17.699 --> 00:48:20.019
said, well, why don't you stand this way and

00:48:20.019 --> 00:48:21.940
like have your hand in your pocket and everything?

00:48:22.539 --> 00:48:26.039
And it was completely by accident that they got

00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:28.980
this shot. And it's one of the most iconic albums

00:48:28.980 --> 00:48:32.920
of all time. Probably. Like album covers, I should

00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:38.360
say. It's pretty, yeah. That album, because that's

00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:40.400
Born in the USA. Does that also have Dancer in

00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:42.739
the Dark on it? Dancing in the Dark, not Dancer

00:48:42.739 --> 00:48:44.780
in the Dark. Dancer in the Dark. I don't know.

00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:48.539
I'll need to look it up. We're not a music podcast

00:48:48.539 --> 00:48:49.940
if it's not obvious. We're not a music podcast.

00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:54.800
Thanks for this weird tangent. Yes. If you want

00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:58.159
a good... Fourth of July movie. I got one for

00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:02.719
you. Not Independence Day. Okay. Live Free or

00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:07.039
Die Hard. Oh, God. Yes, it is. It's centered

00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:10.480
around Fourth of July. What number of that is

00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.960
that? That's four? Can we skip three? No, don't

00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.480
skip three. Three's still great. Is three good?

00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:21.340
Dude, I'm sorry, man. Like, Die Hard 2 sucked

00:49:21.340 --> 00:49:23.519
so hard for me. Yeah, it's not great. Does Air

00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.460
Force One take place on Fourth of July? I don't

00:49:26.460 --> 00:49:28.659
know. Air Force One is just a day. It's just

00:49:28.659 --> 00:49:32.960
a day. The Die Hard rankings. Die Hard 1. Die

00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:37.059
Hard 3. Die Hard 4. Die Hard 2. And then the

00:49:37.059 --> 00:49:39.559
other one doesn't exist. Wow. I thought I could

00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:41.059
have sworn. I thought you had numbered. I thought

00:49:41.059 --> 00:49:43.239
you had two as your number. I jokingly. No, I

00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.159
jokingly had it as one of my top five Christmas

00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:47.820
movies. Yeah. Looking at a list now of the best

00:49:47.820 --> 00:49:49.519
20, the 20 best movies to watch on the 4th of

00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.559
July. My hat to throw in this ring. It's not

00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:54.900
all about on the 4th of July, but it starts on

00:49:54.900 --> 00:50:00.019
the 4th of July is Benjamin Button. Okay, I don't

00:50:00.019 --> 00:50:02.980
know. America's history told through the eyes

00:50:02.980 --> 00:50:06.539
of a man eating backwards. Yeah, okay. Sure,

00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:12.639
man. It existed. Lincoln, the Sandlot. Oh, that's

00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:14.199
a good one. Sandlot's a good one. There's the

00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:15.860
whole Fourth of July scene. That's a good summer

00:50:15.860 --> 00:50:18.360
Fourth of July movie. Yeah, that's a good one.

00:50:18.460 --> 00:50:19.900
That's a good one. That's up there. The Music

00:50:19.900 --> 00:50:22.019
Man, which has a big period for the Fourth of

00:50:22.019 --> 00:50:23.860
July. If you like musicals and you haven't seen

00:50:23.860 --> 00:50:25.940
it. I mean, Mel Gibson sucks, but The Patriot

00:50:25.940 --> 00:50:28.480
was pretty good. The Patriot. Jaws. I mean, honestly,

00:50:28.699 --> 00:50:31.300
straight up. Saving Private Ryan, I disagree

00:50:31.300 --> 00:50:34.079
with. Jaws, definitely, because he wanted all

00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:36.059
that money for Fourth of July weekends and left

00:50:36.059 --> 00:50:40.579
it open. Yep. Yeah. Us is on this list. Glory,

00:50:40.900 --> 00:50:43.579
which I have not seen since middle school. Us?

00:50:43.940 --> 00:50:46.239
Us isn't a 4th of July movie. I know they go

00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:49.780
in the lake, but not 4th of July. Apparently

00:50:49.780 --> 00:50:54.340
the Hands Across America is the tethering stuff.

00:50:55.179 --> 00:50:58.880
The Esquire is arguing it is a 4th of July movie.

00:50:58.980 --> 00:51:02.159
Selma. Selma, okay. Hamilton. That's a good one.

00:51:02.300 --> 00:51:04.760
You know what I'm not watching on 4th of July?

00:51:05.139 --> 00:51:08.980
What? Dances with Wolves. dances with wolves

00:51:08.980 --> 00:51:12.579
yeah i would like to spend the rest of my day

00:51:12.579 --> 00:51:15.599
outside instead of five hours inside america

00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:18.679
world police national treasure everybody that

00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:20.840
oh national treasure you're right that's probably

00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:25.400
the correct answer that's the answer even book

00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:28.539
of secrets down down for it yeah make it a double

00:51:28.539 --> 00:51:32.880
feature why not of course i kind of see that

00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:37.000
couple other red dawn red dawn That's a good

00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:41.900
one. I've never seen it, but I've heard of. You

00:51:41.900 --> 00:51:44.039
need to watch the 80s one, just so we're all

00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:46.579
clear. No, I'm talking about the one from the

00:51:46.579 --> 00:51:49.539
80s. Yeah, I totally forgot they rebooted it.

00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.300
Holy crap, that was one of the many... Is it

00:51:52.300 --> 00:51:54.739
still Russians who are invading? No, that was...

00:51:54.739 --> 00:51:58.019
That was Koreans, wasn't it? I think so, but

00:51:58.019 --> 00:52:00.739
I think it was generic Asians. Oh, right, right.

00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:03.179
I don't think they said a country. They were

00:52:03.179 --> 00:52:04.900
just kind of like, oh, the Asians are attacking.

00:52:05.469 --> 00:52:08.610
Yes. It was that bad. If you have a preferred

00:52:08.610 --> 00:52:11.949
4th of July movie to watch, tweet us on Twitter.

00:52:12.269 --> 00:52:15.329
Doing better than myself. Hey, we're everywhere.

00:52:15.550 --> 00:52:18.369
It came for a movie. Hopefully you don't exceed

00:52:18.369 --> 00:52:23.710
your rate limit for Twitter. I'm not really on

00:52:23.710 --> 00:52:25.869
Twitter. We're so glad you spend one of your

00:52:25.869 --> 00:52:30.110
600 tweets reading our tweets. Thank you in advance.

00:52:30.829 --> 00:52:33.190
People that like the fact that I was on a bar

00:52:33.190 --> 00:52:36.119
crawl yesterday for America. God bless them.

00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:40.199
I got thanked for my service for going on a bar

00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:43.739
crawl for America. Hell yeah. With the Denny's

00:52:43.739 --> 00:52:46.059
commercial, what did it taste like? America.

00:52:46.900 --> 00:52:49.920
It did taste like America. I had my Ulysses -esque

00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:53.360
pants on. Hell yeah. Guys, I want to talk about

00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:56.579
this goddamn movie so bad. Let's do it. Where

00:52:56.579 --> 00:52:59.039
are we going? Across the Spider -Verse? Across

00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:05.840
the Spider -Verse. Yeah! The sequel to Into the

00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:09.300
Spider -Verse. The much, much waited, highly

00:53:09.300 --> 00:53:13.139
anticipated sequel. Yes. So good. We saw it twice.

00:53:13.219 --> 00:53:15.420
We did. We just saw it again on Friday. Yeah.

00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:20.159
So we saw it opening day. And I think we saw

00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:22.340
it the day after. But yeah, we were so torqued

00:53:22.340 --> 00:53:24.960
for this movie, like ready to go. Dude, it was

00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:28.000
one of the worst theater experiences ever. Yeah.

00:53:28.619 --> 00:53:32.679
If you're a teenage boy and you're listening

00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:35.320
to this podcast, The rudest thing you can do

00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:38.380
is disrupt a movie by shrieking and shouting

00:53:38.380 --> 00:53:41.039
and then pulling out your phone and trying to

00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:44.360
record the last 45 minutes of the movie. I don't

00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:45.780
know if you're aware of this. That is illegal.

00:53:46.099 --> 00:53:48.639
And if somebody sees you doing that, they definitely

00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:50.400
have the right to take your phone, march it up

00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:51.980
to someone who works for the movie theater and

00:53:51.980 --> 00:53:53.860
present it as evidence and then throw your ass

00:53:53.860 --> 00:53:56.900
in jail. So don't do that. Shut up. I know your

00:53:56.900 --> 00:53:58.739
mom bought the movie and you didn't buy the tickets.

00:53:59.130 --> 00:54:00.949
But we're all here to enjoy this thing. If you

00:54:00.949 --> 00:54:02.489
want to be a brat, go be there somewhere else.

00:54:02.710 --> 00:54:08.210
So yeah, off the top rope. I wanted to hold me

00:54:08.210 --> 00:54:11.489
back from yelling at them. No, it was so it was

00:54:11.489 --> 00:54:13.869
so frustrating because like I knew the movie

00:54:13.869 --> 00:54:15.610
that was happening in front of us was so good,

00:54:15.750 --> 00:54:18.750
but it was so we were taken out of it like every

00:54:18.750 --> 00:54:20.769
10 minutes. I'm glad you guys got to see it a

00:54:20.769 --> 00:54:22.809
second time at least. And it was so much better.

00:54:23.010 --> 00:54:26.070
I found a pen in my bag and I really debated

00:54:26.070 --> 00:54:27.610
throwing it at the back of one of their heads.

00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:31.860
they would never have known it was me yeah it

00:54:31.860 --> 00:54:34.860
was no the problem is they think it's andre and

00:54:34.860 --> 00:54:37.199
then poor beautiful andre would get into a fistfight

00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:40.559
with a child no yes i'm gonna yes i'm gonna get

00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:43.539
in a fistfight with a group of 10 teenagers at

00:54:43.539 --> 00:54:46.659
least at least to our to our you know to the

00:54:46.659 --> 00:54:49.360
theater's credit other people were also equally

00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:51.769
mad because they were being destructive but Enough

00:54:51.769 --> 00:54:54.230
about that. Let's talk about a great movie. I

00:54:54.230 --> 00:54:56.650
want to talk about Andre's canon event being

00:54:56.650 --> 00:55:03.369
getting beat up by 10, 14 girls. Just let it

00:55:03.369 --> 00:55:05.789
happen, Jill. It's his canon event. This is how

00:55:05.789 --> 00:55:10.510
you became Spider -Man. Yep, yep, yep. No, this

00:55:10.510 --> 00:55:12.670
is how Jill became Spider -Man. Andre's dead.

00:55:12.849 --> 00:55:19.239
Spider -Jill. As long as I have a cool music

00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:23.840
motif that goes along whenever I show up. Yeah,

00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:25.500
I don't really know where to start with this

00:55:25.500 --> 00:55:28.079
one. I would say that obviously if you enjoyed

00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:29.639
Into the Spider -Verse, definitely go see Across

00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:32.940
the Spider -Verse. Light spoilers? All spoilers?

00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:35.139
I don't know, man. I don't know how to talk about

00:55:35.139 --> 00:55:36.840
this movie without spoiling the shit. I think

00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:38.719
it's just spoil at this point. We're going to

00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:41.320
say light spoilers, although we do apologize.

00:55:42.739 --> 00:55:46.900
We'll do our best. I haven't confirmed with Mike,

00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:49.139
but I love this movie. I thought this movie was

00:55:49.139 --> 00:55:52.380
great. Highly recommend. Go see it. No shocker.

00:55:52.380 --> 00:55:54.860
We really liked this. We had an interesting conversation

00:55:54.860 --> 00:55:57.639
after we saw it because you had said, and I think

00:55:57.639 --> 00:55:59.980
this is the right way to put it, comparing it

00:55:59.980 --> 00:56:02.579
to the first one, it's comparing a 9 out of 10

00:56:02.579 --> 00:56:06.139
movie to a 10 out of 10 movie. It's still great.

00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:08.239
It's hard because you're comparing them, but

00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:11.179
I did... I didn't like this one as much as the

00:56:11.179 --> 00:56:13.139
first one, but I still very much enjoyed it.

00:56:13.179 --> 00:56:15.360
Highly recommend it for everybody. I'll echo

00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:18.460
my sentiment. So I guess this is a slight spoiler.

00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:22.179
This is a part two of three films. This is the

00:56:22.179 --> 00:56:25.280
middle child. It's the second chapter. They could

00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:28.260
totally fuck up the ending, and it's like, well...

00:56:28.260 --> 00:56:32.539
We're not going to Crystal Skull this. no dude

00:56:32.539 --> 00:56:34.960
yeah i don't know like but like what happens

00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:36.559
like if beyond the spider -verse comes out and

00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:38.579
it kind of doesn't stick the landing does that

00:56:38.579 --> 00:56:41.099
we're getting ahead of ourselves guys let's talk

00:56:41.099 --> 00:56:42.860
about let's actually let's talk about how we

00:56:42.860 --> 00:56:45.820
even get to this film's ending if depending on

00:56:45.820 --> 00:56:48.059
how much we want to spoil it so into the spider

00:56:48.059 --> 00:56:51.000
-verse tells the story of how miles morales becomes

00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:53.719
brooklyn i don't remember the name is universes

00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:57.300
brooklyn's new spider -man through events and

00:56:57.300 --> 00:56:59.340
things he meets other spider people he learns

00:56:59.340 --> 00:57:02.280
he's not alone and he grows into his own across

00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:04.940
the spider -verse definitely still follows miles

00:57:04.940 --> 00:57:07.440
morales's story but what's really cool is that

00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:11.039
it explores and goes deeper into gwen stacy's

00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:14.059
yeah like gwen's almost the real not real second

00:57:14.059 --> 00:57:17.599
main character yeah well like it's it's it's

00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:19.539
her arc because like the movie opens obviously

00:57:19.539 --> 00:57:22.820
with gwen's like gwen's universe not obviously

00:57:22.820 --> 00:57:25.210
you haven't seen it what's that not obviously

00:57:25.210 --> 00:57:27.610
if you haven't seen it no it's right sure but

00:57:27.610 --> 00:57:30.150
anyways yeah like it opens with gwen's gwen's

00:57:30.150 --> 00:57:31.449
universe she fights the vulture that's where

00:57:31.449 --> 00:57:33.570
we're introduced to spider -man 2099 and spider

00:57:33.570 --> 00:57:37.869
woman um and uh you know like it's her arc that

00:57:37.869 --> 00:57:39.869
starts and ends you know what i mean that book

00:57:39.869 --> 00:57:42.510
ends the movie right yeah which makes sense right

00:57:42.510 --> 00:57:44.610
because like this is like the middle part of

00:57:44.610 --> 00:57:46.489
a chapter this is the middle part there's a cliffhanger

00:57:46.489 --> 00:57:48.869
like like we still need to have miles doing stuff

00:57:48.869 --> 00:57:51.190
in the in the third one right so it's like it

00:57:51.190 --> 00:57:54.130
kind of makes sense to have gwen's arc be one

00:57:54.130 --> 00:57:56.070
of the main focuses which is great it's awesome

00:57:56.070 --> 00:57:58.210
well and especially the way it goes with it too

00:57:58.210 --> 00:58:03.989
is like how much gwen grew as as like a i don't

00:58:03.989 --> 00:58:05.869
want to say as a person or like as anything other

00:58:05.869 --> 00:58:11.130
than she made decisions for herself now and and

00:58:11.130 --> 00:58:13.510
like it's kind of fun to see that where it's

00:58:13.510 --> 00:58:17.110
like she's you know she's always the punk and

00:58:17.110 --> 00:58:18.929
everything like that but really she's pretty

00:58:18.929 --> 00:58:21.889
much a rule follower when it comes to being spider

00:58:21.889 --> 00:58:24.750
person for sure she you know she she's not consigned

00:58:24.750 --> 00:58:27.409
to her fate she goes from nihilistic to hopeful

00:58:27.409 --> 00:58:30.190
really right which is cool yeah yeah and that's

00:58:30.190 --> 00:58:32.889
i i agree completely with that plus like her

00:58:32.889 --> 00:58:35.030
stuff with her dad and everything like that i

00:58:35.030 --> 00:58:37.429
thought that was one of the coolest moments was

00:58:37.429 --> 00:58:40.409
the paint dripping behind them yeah uh in that

00:58:40.409 --> 00:58:45.260
moment because i thought it was just it's another

00:58:45.260 --> 00:58:47.039
little touch that they do with this animation

00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:49.940
that's great like in the first one how miles

00:58:49.940 --> 00:58:52.340
was slower animation than everybody else to right

00:58:52.340 --> 00:58:54.260
he was animated he was animated at a different

00:58:54.260 --> 00:58:56.960
rate than exactly here was because he still put

00:58:56.960 --> 00:58:59.460
it together exactly and those little things are

00:58:59.460 --> 00:59:02.280
just what makes this series so cool to to me

00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:05.320
well yeah right it's just it's this is the first

00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:07.840
like we're you know making jokes about fucking

00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:09.960
multiverses and how exhausting they are but like

00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:12.550
this is the first like multiverse movie That

00:59:12.550 --> 00:59:15.090
takes advantage of the fact that, yes, we're

00:59:15.090 --> 00:59:17.409
in different universes. These universes should

00:59:17.409 --> 00:59:20.570
look vastly different. You know, Gwen Stacy's

00:59:20.570 --> 00:59:22.650
Manhattan looks totally different from Miles's,

00:59:22.650 --> 00:59:24.349
which looks totally different from Mumbat and

00:59:24.349 --> 00:59:26.269
which looks totally different from Nueva York.

00:59:26.469 --> 00:59:28.630
You know what I mean? Yeah, right. That we're

00:59:28.630 --> 00:59:30.590
going to all these different universes and all

00:59:30.590 --> 00:59:33.670
these characters look so cool and unique. And

00:59:33.670 --> 00:59:35.510
it's just it's awesome to see on the screen.

00:59:35.630 --> 00:59:38.769
Yes. The animation in this one makes the one

00:59:38.769 --> 00:59:40.909
the animation in the first like the both look

00:59:40.909 --> 00:59:43.889
amazing. This one blows the animation out of

00:59:43.889 --> 00:59:46.730
the water for the 2018 one. So if that if you

00:59:46.730 --> 00:59:48.449
didn't care much about the story, but you were

00:59:48.449 --> 00:59:50.690
there to sit through for the visuals, do that

00:59:50.690 --> 00:59:52.730
again because you won't be disappointed. I wonder

00:59:52.730 --> 00:59:55.369
if the budget was was a lot higher. I bet they

00:59:55.369 --> 00:59:58.550
must have been. yeah proof of concept definitely

00:59:58.550 --> 01:00:01.750
i'm pretty sure well i'm pretty sure they had

01:00:01.750 --> 01:00:04.389
more animators for it too um which is weird because

01:00:04.389 --> 01:00:06.690
there's a lot of stories about how many animators

01:00:06.690 --> 01:00:09.010
i was gonna ask if we wanted to talk about some

01:00:09.010 --> 01:00:12.309
other stuff about the thing is what i'll say

01:00:12.309 --> 01:00:17.170
is that yes they lost more animators but i also

01:00:17.170 --> 01:00:21.929
think they had more off the top not the thing

01:00:21.929 --> 01:00:24.050
i was talking about oh what were you going to

01:00:24.050 --> 01:00:26.210
talk about like the overworking and how yeah

01:00:26.210 --> 01:00:28.409
there's been a lot of crunch around this yeah

01:00:28.409 --> 01:00:30.849
somebody i don't know if it was phil or lord

01:00:30.849 --> 01:00:33.010
was like no we didn't do crunch time and then

01:00:33.010 --> 01:00:35.590
right i think it's lord because i think miller

01:00:35.590 --> 01:00:38.469
they were saying wasn't as but i don't know i

01:00:38.469 --> 01:00:40.719
i thought i made a joke all right We don't need

01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:42.159
to talk about that. We stand with the writers.

01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:45.400
Yes, we stand with the writers. And also, hey,

01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:48.820
let's try to... Making art is very hard. It requires

01:00:48.820 --> 01:00:50.539
a lot of passion, a lot of effort. There's a

01:00:50.539 --> 01:00:53.320
way to be ethical about it, I think. And that's

01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:54.840
the thing. I don't think he has that balance

01:00:54.840 --> 01:01:01.139
yet. Yeah. Gwen Stacy, we were talking about

01:01:01.139 --> 01:01:04.280
that. Miles' story has been Spider -Man for about

01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:07.280
a year now. He's still figuring things out. He's

01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:09.079
starting to be really conflicted on whether or

01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:12.619
not he'd tell his parents. Right. His villain

01:01:12.619 --> 01:01:16.679
for his plot, the Spot, played by Jason Schwartzman,

01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:22.000
right? Yes. It's fantastic. They set him up as

01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:25.280
the villain of the week. I absolutely love what

01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:27.519
they did with Spot because I thought he was such

01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:29.940
a stupid villain. And by the end, I'm actually,

01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:31.699
like, afraid of him. Well, right, because they

01:01:31.699 --> 01:01:33.159
did a good job of setting that up. Because, like,

01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:35.860
in the trailers, it's just that ATM scene where...

01:01:35.860 --> 01:01:37.760
With the bread. With the bread falling out of

01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:39.579
his stomach and he has no idea what he's doing.

01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:41.219
And it's just like, okay, yeah. And they play

01:01:41.219 --> 01:01:43.019
it off well. Like, Miles was like, what is your

01:01:43.019 --> 01:01:44.679
deal, dude? Who cares? This spot even has an

01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:47.500
arc in this where he goes from, you know, one

01:01:47.500 --> 01:01:50.679
to another. He thinks he's, like, a screw -up

01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:52.300
and everything like that. But then all of a sudden,

01:01:52.300 --> 01:01:54.920
he realizes his potential, even. And it's...

01:01:55.530 --> 01:01:57.429
Honestly, I think they did a really good job

01:01:57.429 --> 01:02:00.789
with Spot, and I hate it because just looking

01:02:00.789 --> 01:02:02.909
at him going, oh, this is the major villain?

01:02:03.030 --> 01:02:07.289
Right. Really? Yeah. It's a good plot arc with

01:02:07.289 --> 01:02:12.789
that. So that kind of kicks off Miles' story

01:02:12.789 --> 01:02:16.750
through mechanisms of plot. He re -encounters

01:02:16.750 --> 01:02:21.010
Gwen, and together they ultimately go off across

01:02:21.010 --> 01:02:23.929
the Spider -Verse, and they land in... probably

01:02:23.929 --> 01:02:26.329
one of my favorite segments of the whole film

01:02:26.329 --> 01:02:31.150
credits yeah um and when you get to meet the

01:02:31.150 --> 01:02:33.710
spider person of that universe and their whole

01:02:33.710 --> 01:02:36.610
the way it all looks is so unique the way it

01:02:36.610 --> 01:02:38.849
sounds the way it's animated i don't want to

01:02:38.849 --> 01:02:41.230
give too much away about this particular character

01:02:41.230 --> 01:02:45.550
and that's kind of the halfway point of the movie

01:02:45.550 --> 01:02:47.949
where now we're officially off to the races with

01:02:47.949 --> 01:02:52.550
the the multiverses and the spider society if

01:02:52.550 --> 01:02:55.550
you've seen the trailers this is where you get

01:02:55.550 --> 01:02:58.530
all i also i do want to say i think they showed

01:02:58.530 --> 01:03:00.030
a little too much in the trailers and i know

01:03:00.030 --> 01:03:02.070
this is a classic classic complaint but i think

01:03:02.070 --> 01:03:03.630
i've learned my lesson now and i'm going to try

01:03:03.630 --> 01:03:05.769
i'm really going to try my hardest to not watch

01:03:05.769 --> 01:03:07.409
any trailers for beyond the spider verse right

01:03:07.409 --> 01:03:09.369
because i know that it's because i'm a sure thing

01:03:09.369 --> 01:03:11.309
at this point like it's yeah yeah i don't need

01:03:11.309 --> 01:03:13.309
to be sold on watching that movie i'm going to

01:03:13.309 --> 01:03:15.670
try my best some credit there's a lot of things

01:03:15.670 --> 01:03:18.000
that we're not that were kept secret and we're

01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:20.440
not going to talk about them but those trailers

01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:24.159
really do give away some key I don't know man

01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:28.000
like just the fact that they the main emotional

01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:30.400
line that Miles delivers in it like it is arc

01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:35.320
I said that they give them away yeah but it's

01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:38.440
all it's all a smorgasbord for the eyes and the

01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:42.789
senses and if You know, I'd see it a third time

01:03:42.789 --> 01:03:45.429
if I had the time in my schedule this week. Yeah,

01:03:45.429 --> 01:03:48.489
it's really great. I can't wait to see the third

01:03:48.489 --> 01:03:50.429
one, which allegedly is coming out next year.

01:03:50.510 --> 01:03:52.150
I don't know. I don't think that's going to happen.

01:03:52.230 --> 01:03:56.369
No way. But no, it's I'm really curious to see

01:03:56.369 --> 01:04:00.130
how they how they close this out. So the funny

01:04:00.130 --> 01:04:03.800
thing is, I think it's done recording. So that's

01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:06.559
conflicting to what Andre said. So I wonder if

01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:08.500
they've animated it, but they haven't recorded

01:04:08.500 --> 01:04:11.420
the lines. And I just read a headline that Haley

01:04:11.420 --> 01:04:14.300
Steinfeld, who voices Gwen, she mentioned that

01:04:14.300 --> 01:04:16.039
she has not recorded any lines for the third

01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:17.900
one yet. Okay. All right. I thought they were

01:04:17.900 --> 01:04:19.900
recording it like at the same time where it's

01:04:19.900 --> 01:04:20.960
kind of like you do the whole thing. That's what

01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:23.880
I thought too. But okay. That makes sense then.

01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:26.679
If Haley's saying that, I mean, I trust her enough

01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:29.260
that it's probably what happens. Yeah. I don't

01:04:29.260 --> 01:04:30.980
know. But again, I just, I don't have a source

01:04:30.980 --> 01:04:34.320
to give that to you. So yeah. Right. Yeah, Andre

01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:37.500
did a myth. Is there more about Across the Spider

01:04:37.500 --> 01:04:38.559
-Verse you want to talk about? I'm trying to

01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:43.940
rack my brain here. I will say that it's, again,

01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:47.619
it's tough overall to be sure. I really like

01:04:47.619 --> 01:04:49.300
this movie. I think it's a great way to take

01:04:49.300 --> 01:04:53.059
the trilogy, as it were. I still think Into the

01:04:53.059 --> 01:04:55.960
Spider -Verse is my favorite comic book movie,

01:04:56.059 --> 01:04:58.760
period. You can just watch that movie and it's...

01:04:59.019 --> 01:05:00.559
It's only my first Spider -Man movie still, and

01:05:00.559 --> 01:05:02.280
it's probably my favorite comic book movie still.

01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:05.280
And so I put that one just a slightly bit higher,

01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:07.019
but I think this is a great direction to take

01:05:07.019 --> 01:05:09.599
a sequel. Like, it ups the stakes. It ups the...

01:05:10.110 --> 01:05:12.150
scope of the whole entire concept in such a great

01:05:12.150 --> 01:05:14.889
way that's a lot of fun so it's keeping the multiverse

01:05:14.889 --> 01:05:17.230
concept fresh which is impressive which is impressive

01:05:17.230 --> 01:05:20.530
yeah yeah it's saturated now we have so many

01:05:20.530 --> 01:05:22.250
different multiverses that we're juggling through

01:05:22.250 --> 01:05:25.610
right now they're all executed to varying level

01:05:25.610 --> 01:05:28.369
success but yeah it i also just kind of feel

01:05:28.369 --> 01:05:31.769
like it's it's like in godzilla versus kong or

01:05:31.769 --> 01:05:33.550
when it's just like oh yeah no they're they're

01:05:33.550 --> 01:05:35.750
the apex predator they're king of skull island

01:05:35.750 --> 01:05:38.750
for a reason you know right hold their beer like

01:05:38.750 --> 01:05:41.570
get out of their way like let me show you how

01:05:41.570 --> 01:05:45.010
it's done son right um you made me think of it

01:05:45.010 --> 01:05:48.349
because i had made a letterboxd list of the movies

01:05:48.349 --> 01:05:50.429
based on comic books like i have all of them

01:05:50.429 --> 01:05:53.650
and i was like oh yeah i need to add this one

01:05:53.650 --> 01:05:55.610
to the list and i just realized no i made this

01:05:55.610 --> 01:05:58.550
a live action one on purpose because because

01:05:58.550 --> 01:06:01.929
spider verse one and then spider verse two would

01:06:01.929 --> 01:06:04.750
be my top two spots i feel like i mean it's now

01:06:04.750 --> 01:06:07.789
whenever whenever i read like listings that talk

01:06:07.789 --> 01:06:09.570
about like spider -man content it's similar to

01:06:09.570 --> 01:06:11.550
like final fantasy rankings it's like you know

01:06:11.550 --> 01:06:13.730
what number one's going to be right let's just

01:06:13.730 --> 01:06:15.530
get the elephant out of the out of the way now

01:06:15.530 --> 01:06:19.929
it's it's almost it's final fantasy seven it's

01:06:19.929 --> 01:06:24.170
almost more shocking that the end of your list

01:06:24.170 --> 01:06:26.289
or like the the middle of your list probably

01:06:26.289 --> 01:06:27.949
you know like if you were to go through spider

01:06:27.949 --> 01:06:30.809
-man properties um i think all of us would probably

01:06:30.809 --> 01:06:33.250
agree that uh the amazing spider -man 2 is probably

01:06:33.250 --> 01:06:35.320
at the bottom of the list I need to see them.

01:06:35.780 --> 01:06:40.300
Just so you know where we've come from at this

01:06:40.300 --> 01:06:45.400
point. But like that and like Spider -Man 3 maybe.

01:06:46.219 --> 01:06:50.039
But like the in -betweens are so weird now because

01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:53.780
I liked Far From Home better than I liked Homecoming.

01:06:54.579 --> 01:06:58.860
A lot of people don't like that. And then No

01:06:58.860 --> 01:07:00.880
Way Home obviously I like better than all of

01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:04.719
them. But then what about the Spider -Man, Spider

01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:07.280
-Man 2 controversy? Which one is better of those?

01:07:09.019 --> 01:07:12.760
It's weird now. To me, it's tough to beat Spider

01:07:12.760 --> 01:07:16.260
-Man 2. That might be my favorite. Which is fair.

01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:22.179
That's such a good sequel. It is. It's tough,

01:07:22.340 --> 01:07:25.059
right? But yeah, it does make me kind of want

01:07:25.059 --> 01:07:27.760
to rewatch all the Spider -Man movies now. Not

01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:30.579
the Raimis again. Not the Raimis. We just recently

01:07:30.579 --> 01:07:32.039
went through the Raimis. No, the Raimis again.

01:07:32.139 --> 01:07:35.920
Do it. Throw in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse

01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:39.099
of Madness just because. Dude, this was such

01:07:39.099 --> 01:07:42.440
a better multiverse execution than Multiverse

01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:44.539
of Madness, right? Yeah, because... And no one

01:07:44.539 --> 01:07:46.320
was running around. We need to save America.

01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:50.940
They spent three... minutes basically going through

01:07:50.940 --> 01:07:54.460
the actual multiverse right right right and it's

01:07:54.460 --> 01:07:56.440
like imagine if you got to actually kind of hang

01:07:56.440 --> 01:07:58.480
out in those multiverses for like a little bit

01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:00.960
at least right just to see well we get the big

01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:04.400
one that they spoiled in the trailers yeah right

01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:07.380
oh yeah i mean it's a great rainy horror film

01:08:07.380 --> 01:08:11.059
for about 15 minutes like that's the thing what

01:08:11.059 --> 01:08:13.719
multiverse is dr strange in the multiverse of

01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:16.979
madness is like three or four different movies

01:08:16.979 --> 01:08:19.279
and you know what what's great is that you can

01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:21.939
fast forward to the part the movie you like yeah

01:08:21.939 --> 01:08:23.960
and then when it's over you just move on to something

01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:26.399
else so if you want more horror ramey go watch

01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:31.159
the evil dead if you want more um see all right

01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:32.880
you guys go do spider -man i'm gonna do evil

01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:35.899
dead you want more benedict cumberbatch's doctor

01:08:35.899 --> 01:08:37.779
strange just go watch the first doctor strange

01:08:37.779 --> 01:08:40.720
i'm gonna watch army of darkness even like let's

01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:43.539
just wow all right I love Army of Darkness. What's

01:08:43.539 --> 01:08:46.520
the new Evil Dead Rise? Evil Dead Rise, yeah.

01:08:46.699 --> 01:08:48.560
I heard that one was pretty good. I've heard

01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:52.600
great things. I'll be honest, I'm kind of a wuss

01:08:52.600 --> 01:08:56.520
with scary movies in the theater. It's all around

01:08:56.520 --> 01:08:58.520
you. You can't escape it. Exactly, yeah. And

01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:00.680
that's the thing. It's like, oh, this is getting

01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:02.880
a little scary. Okay, I can kind of look at my

01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:05.880
phone, but still look up. That kind of thing

01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:07.920
where you can kind of trick your mind a little

01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:10.890
bit. so scary movies in the theater besides the

01:09:10.890 --> 01:09:15.350
screen movies usually are pretty pretty much

01:09:15.350 --> 01:09:18.090
a no -go for me but like i do like scary movies

01:09:18.090 --> 01:09:20.670
at home i'm one of those weirdos i don't think

01:09:20.670 --> 01:09:22.430
there's anything in the closet or under the bed

01:09:22.430 --> 01:09:25.390
or anything like that before we close the door

01:09:25.390 --> 01:09:27.810
on the across the spider -verse um i do want

01:09:27.810 --> 01:09:30.329
to just make a comment about it's like oscar

01:09:30.329 --> 01:09:33.409
isaac having like a great year two years oh fantastic

01:09:33.409 --> 01:09:37.760
amazing as nigel he was all over moon night last

01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:41.340
year right uh he was in dune uh maybe in a flat

01:09:41.340 --> 01:09:43.520
i don't don't quote me on this he may be in a

01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:45.560
flashback in dune tune for all we know right

01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:48.600
spoilers on dune i'm moving that's not even out

01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:52.739
yet um yeah i meant dune one but that's fine

01:09:52.739 --> 01:09:58.060
i'm still not gonna watch it i don't care he

01:09:58.060 --> 01:10:01.239
also was gomez in the animated adams family movies

01:10:01.239 --> 01:10:04.680
yeah there you go was he yeah i have not seen

01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:07.979
them Yep, he was Gomez in the animated ones.

01:10:08.619 --> 01:10:12.439
He's a good voice actor. Poe Dameron, even though

01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:13.899
the movie sucked, he's still one of my favorite

01:10:13.899 --> 01:10:15.619
characters. Delivers the worst line in all of

01:10:15.619 --> 01:10:19.220
Star Wars canon. But here's the thing. Because

01:10:19.220 --> 01:10:22.760
it's him, it's believable. It's a terrible line.

01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:25.699
That's a credit to him being a great actor. I

01:10:25.699 --> 01:10:28.159
guess so. You know what? I want a buddy -buddy

01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:33.100
movie where it's Oscar Isaacs and... Oh, my God.

01:10:33.800 --> 01:10:36.560
Pedro Pascal. Yeah, Pedro Pascal. Yeah, I knew

01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:41.460
it. Exactly. I mean, Hollywood's dad's like right

01:10:41.460 --> 01:10:45.199
there. All right. And because I also love the

01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:49.659
massive weight or the unbearable weight. I want

01:10:49.659 --> 01:10:51.640
Nick Cage in that movie, too. Sure. Just the

01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:54.460
three of them getting high and making a movie.

01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:57.760
You need something to balance it out. Well, the

01:10:57.760 --> 01:10:59.479
balance like they need they need something to

01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:01.979
like. challenge them and that would be nicholas

01:11:01.979 --> 01:11:09.800
cage yeah or stay with me here pedro pascal oscar

01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:15.920
isaac good guys nicholas cage bad guy oh okay

01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:20.640
like over the top zany bad guy i want him chewing

01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.699
scenery like like face off like face off yes

01:11:23.699 --> 01:11:30.079
okay off something or other caster um caster

01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:35.659
oil always remember it caster oil ah shit doesn't

01:11:35.659 --> 01:11:41.319
matter it does matter it does matter um yeah

01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:45.060
do you know what oscar isaac's character name

01:11:45.060 --> 01:11:47.939
was in the first spider -verse since he was in

01:11:47.939 --> 01:11:52.000
the after credit scene was it spider -man 20

01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:55.920
2099 That was not his name. Castor Troy, by the

01:11:55.920 --> 01:12:00.840
way. His character was interesting man number

01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:03.899
one. Really? Are you kidding me? They didn't

01:12:03.899 --> 01:12:06.020
want to reveal that it was Miguel O 'Hara or

01:12:06.020 --> 01:12:10.420
Spider -Man 99. They say what year and where

01:12:10.420 --> 01:12:13.300
it is. Yeah, right. And he looks like... Come

01:12:13.300 --> 01:12:16.319
on, man. There's nobody else he is. I guess maybe

01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:21.119
they're hiding it in the IMDb. Well... oh man

01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:22.699
you know what it could be it could be a tease

01:12:22.699 --> 01:12:24.760
that like that's actually not miguel o 'hara

01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:28.100
and it's like another version of it well no and

01:12:28.100 --> 01:12:30.340
across the spider -verse camera is miguel o 'hara

01:12:30.340 --> 01:12:32.699
i understand that part but i'm talking about

01:12:32.699 --> 01:12:35.840
like the the into the spider -verse Because in

01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:38.460
the Spider -Verse, he has a totally different

01:12:38.460 --> 01:12:42.359
build. I like the way Miguel O 'Hara looks across

01:12:42.359 --> 01:12:43.159
the Spider -Verse. Does he have totally different

01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:45.899
builds? He looks like Peter B. Parker, you know

01:12:45.899 --> 01:12:47.500
what I mean? Same build as him. This is why we

01:12:47.500 --> 01:12:49.159
need to rewatch. I said we should rewatch this.

01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:50.579
Yeah, we should rewatch it, but you'll see. And

01:12:50.579 --> 01:12:52.460
they opted in across the Spider -Verse to make

01:12:52.460 --> 01:12:55.180
him larger, more built. I mean, also to give

01:12:55.180 --> 01:12:57.220
him a distinct body type to look at because there's

01:12:57.220 --> 01:12:57.739
going to be so much happening on the screen.

01:12:57.739 --> 01:13:00.020
Of course, it's a good idea, right? But I just

01:13:00.020 --> 01:13:02.560
chalked it up to like, oh, wow. Thanos looks

01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:05.439
kind of busted at the end of Avengers 1, but

01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:08.300
they totally changed his look. I have some off

01:13:08.300 --> 01:13:13.920
-recording theories now. We should put a rating

01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:17.960
on this puppy. Yes, we should. Rate that puppy.

01:13:19.739 --> 01:13:22.859
It's a good boy. That's the rating. Good boy.

01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:30.439
13 out of 10. Look at the dog again. 4 .5 canon

01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:33.810
events out of 5. yeah canon events damn it yeah

01:13:33.810 --> 01:13:37.229
i would give it a 4 .4 pretty close to honor

01:13:37.229 --> 01:13:40.470
you might as well just go 4 .5 4 .5 out of 5

01:13:40.470 --> 01:13:47.510
i'm not proud cakes i am 4 .5 out of 5 spots

01:13:47.510 --> 01:13:51.989
okay yeah yeah there you go yeah gap spots well

01:13:51.989 --> 01:13:54.189
maybe we'll update this ranking once we have

01:13:54.189 --> 01:13:59.060
the last chapter story yeah yeah I think we can

01:13:59.060 --> 01:14:01.359
talk this whole thing. So I'm kind of interested

01:14:01.359 --> 01:14:03.380
when that last one comes out. I think we could

01:14:03.380 --> 01:14:05.659
do a full episode on the whole trilogy. Oh, yeah.

01:14:05.819 --> 01:14:09.140
Absolutely. If it falls apart or if it sticks

01:14:09.140 --> 01:14:10.399
to the landing. Don't suppress me. I want to

01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:12.180
believe it's not going to fall apart. No, I'm

01:14:12.180 --> 01:14:15.060
going for stick to the landing. Okay. I bet it

01:14:15.060 --> 01:14:16.880
sticks to the landing, too. Or it just doesn't

01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:19.439
come out at all. I think it's more likely that

01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:22.539
they just don't make it than it being bad. Does

01:14:22.539 --> 01:14:25.060
that make sense? As in they would pull the ripcord

01:14:25.060 --> 01:14:27.539
before. I guess actually it would be more likely.

01:14:27.720 --> 01:14:30.199
Something horrific, something very bad happens

01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:32.319
that Jess is like, we cannot make this film anymore.

01:14:32.380 --> 01:14:34.800
I'll be phrased another way. I'll be phrased,

01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:36.520
wow. I'll phrase it another way. Lord and Miller

01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:38.119
are not going to have their names attached to

01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:41.979
a bad movie, a bad film. So if they depart the

01:14:41.979 --> 01:14:43.960
project, that's when I'll be like, oh no. That's

01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:47.060
when it's going to happen. I think Lord actually

01:14:47.060 --> 01:14:49.659
helped co -produce Cocaine Bear, by the way.

01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:52.359
Oh, really? Yeah, I'm breaking back the Wikipedia

01:14:52.359 --> 01:14:55.220
page for it. because I'm pretty sure I saw that.

01:14:56.000 --> 01:14:58.359
Can we talk about one thing that did distract

01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:02.180
me about it, though, real fast? Yeah, sure. The

01:15:02.180 --> 01:15:07.500
Sony characters. Yeah. The Sony characters. The

01:15:07.500 --> 01:15:11.020
Sony characters. Like, they had Venom, they had

01:15:11.020 --> 01:15:12.640
Morbius. I was just about to ask, how did you

01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:16.460
feel about the Venom versus Cameo? They didn't

01:15:16.460 --> 01:15:19.000
have Morbius. They did, for like half a second.

01:15:19.119 --> 01:15:22.680
They had Morbius. When? Where? Right? Am I wrong

01:15:22.680 --> 01:15:25.000
about that? I don't remember seeing. Could have

01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:27.039
been, yeah. I thought he was in for like half

01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:30.619
a second. It was like... I can't remember now.

01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:37.239
They showed a clip of Andrew Garfield. I think

01:15:37.239 --> 01:15:39.659
it's one of those when the other spider people

01:15:39.659 --> 01:15:42.960
are fighting and showing like, hey, I'm the one

01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:45.560
and only Spider -Man of this. They're fighting

01:15:45.560 --> 01:15:49.369
Morbius. They fought Morbius. Okay. But not Leto

01:15:49.369 --> 01:15:52.449
Morbius. No, it was Leto Morbius. It was animated

01:15:52.449 --> 01:15:55.890
Leto Morbius. I'll have to catch that again.

01:15:56.130 --> 01:15:58.890
It wasn't a line. It wasn't anything. There was

01:15:58.890 --> 01:16:02.029
no... You can't find a voice actor for it because

01:16:02.029 --> 01:16:03.770
I don't think there was a voice actor for it.

01:16:03.789 --> 01:16:06.529
But I think there was a part where it was literally...

01:16:06.529 --> 01:16:13.510
It was Morbius's outline, everything like that,

01:16:13.609 --> 01:16:15.789
that they were fighting a spider person of some

01:16:15.789 --> 01:16:22.430
variety. Yeah. Yeah. Insomniac Spider -Man. I

01:16:22.430 --> 01:16:24.430
love that one. Hell yeah. Insomniac Spider -Man

01:16:24.430 --> 01:16:28.430
was great. Yeah. But yeah. All right. Sorry if

01:16:28.430 --> 01:16:30.970
I distracted everybody off of that. No, you're

01:16:30.970 --> 01:16:33.609
fine. There was definitely a Venom. I know that.

01:16:33.890 --> 01:16:37.649
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Venom was... They were

01:16:37.649 --> 01:16:40.670
not shy about that. No. No, they do not hide

01:16:40.670 --> 01:16:42.949
that. Sony characters. Speaking of, I mean, I'm

01:16:42.949 --> 01:16:45.199
very pumped for the... it's omni x spider -man

01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:47.199
2 it's gonna be sick okay oh i thought you were

01:16:47.199 --> 01:16:49.079
gonna say craven the hunter and i was going to

01:16:49.079 --> 01:16:51.399
cares whatever i'm gonna reach this computer

01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:53.380
screen now i'm going to hate you no yeah who

01:16:53.380 --> 01:16:54.760
cares about that i'm talking about i just want

01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:57.220
aaron taylor johnson to get good roles and i

01:16:57.220 --> 01:17:00.000
know i know i know bullet train he was great

01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:02.340
in bullet train he did such a good job such a

01:17:02.340 --> 01:17:06.220
good job lion blood lion blood didn't it doesn't

01:17:06.220 --> 01:17:09.180
deserve this but whatever hope he gets paid I

01:17:09.180 --> 01:17:11.979
can't see it going any other way besides Morbius.

01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:13.699
You know what I mean? If it comes out and it's

01:17:13.699 --> 01:17:16.420
a decent movie, that's great. It's Morbin time.

01:17:16.899 --> 01:17:20.000
Yeah, it's Morbin time. I'm kind of excited that

01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:21.640
it's the first rated R one of these, though.

01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:25.840
Oh, I didn't know it was rated R. If you watch

01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:27.859
the Red Band trailer, there's a part where literally

01:17:27.859 --> 01:17:32.039
he puts a bear trap on a guy's head. What is

01:17:32.039 --> 01:17:37.340
this? This is Kraven the Hunter. Yes. Gonna be

01:17:37.340 --> 01:17:41.739
violent out here. Yes. But it definitely is one

01:17:41.739 --> 01:17:43.960
of those Michael Caine situations. I have not

01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:47.220
seen the film for it is awful. I have seen the

01:17:47.220 --> 01:17:49.619
house for which it's paid and it is glorious.

01:17:51.220 --> 01:17:53.100
That's what I hope is an Aaron Taylor Johnson

01:17:53.100 --> 01:17:56.359
Craven the Hunter movie. All right. So, yeah.

01:17:57.659 --> 01:17:59.859
I think that'll do it. Yeah. We're going to wrap

01:17:59.859 --> 01:18:02.340
it up. That's a podcast. That's a podcast. We

01:18:02.340 --> 01:18:04.260
are Game for a Movie where we ask, are you game

01:18:04.260 --> 01:18:06.800
for a movie? I've been Mike. Joined by Andre.

01:18:07.140 --> 01:18:09.630
I'm Jill. I thought you forgot the order there

01:18:09.630 --> 01:18:11.550
for a second. No, I was there, man. I was right

01:18:11.550 --> 01:18:13.949
there. You were there. We'll see you next time

01:18:13.949 --> 01:18:19.609
on Game for a Movie. Bye. Deuces. Deuces.