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and welcome to the Every Movie Ever podcast.

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My name is Ben Groves. And my name is Robert Macfarlane.

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Welcome to the show, a movie podcast where we

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ask the important questions like chicken or the

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egg? Which came first? Obviously the egg. Learn

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your dinosaurs better, my lovelies. Maybe, maybe,

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but possibly the chicken. You know what I mean?

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Before dinosaurs. What, are you a scientist?

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I know you're a nerd, but are you into science?

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A little bit. You egg science man? Yeah. I'm

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a chef. This is the censored version of the show.

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Swears will be bleeped, but fear not, dear listener.

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As always, the full uncensored version is available

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early on our Patreon for as little as one pound,

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my dear boys. And the link to that is right below

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wherever you click play. So go do it, you f***s.

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Go do it, you f***ing wet beans. I don't know

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what that means. Me neither, but I'm here for

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it. I'm here for it too, man. Let's just keep

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it going. How are you doing today, bud? Oh, bud,

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I've got big news. Hit me with it. So I did the

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podcast. I already know it. Yeah, I know. But

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hit the listener with it. So I joined the podcast

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with you. You did? A couple of years back and

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then not long into it, I put myself out a window,

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had a big mental breakdown, had to move home,

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had to retrain, stop working as a sound engineer

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in the music industry and become a chef and just

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rebuild, retool, get myself back together. And

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you did it beautifully. Oh, babe. And then we've

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been doing this podcast remotely this entire

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time. I've just been accepted for a job. Hey!

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In your town. Hey! I've just been accepted for

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a flat in your town. And it's happening. I'm

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getting back on my own two feet. I'm going to

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be an independent person again. I'm no longer

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living with family. The mentals are in a good

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spot. Good, man. The financials are in a good

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spot. It's all coming up Milhouse, bro. How about

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you, man? How you doing? Remember a while ago

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where I was like... I was in a rough one and

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I was like, I'm just aiming for middle of the

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road. Yeah. Like I'm aiming for, for mediocre

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middle of the road. That's what I'm desperate

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for. Well, I hit it a while ago. Yeah. Yeah.

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And what I quickly realized is, um, I fucking

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hate it. The thing that I have always, I've learned

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recently is no matter how much you push the envelope,

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it's, it's still stationary. It is. That's outrageous.

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That's outrageous. I would have preferred a swimming

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joke. Or some shapes. Colour in. Right. Not a

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stationary joke. What I've learned recently is

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Frosty's 10 metre badges are pretty hard to it.

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You know what I mean? Something like this. Right,

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okay. But not the envelope stationary. That's

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a f***ing stationary joke, mate. Unbelievable.

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We hit 100 ,000 downloads. We did. We did. 100

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,000 downloads. Which is insane. So everyone

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listening. Congratulations, babe. Thank you so

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much. Thank you, darlings. 100k. We're in the

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six digit club for downloads. That's mental.

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That is mental. Rarified air. Rarified air. You

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know what I mean? Beautiful. This is it. I'm

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going to start walking around town with a ring

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on, just being sort of like, hi, my name is Ben

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Gross. 1 ,000 downloads, you ask? Yes, I have.

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Kiss the ring? And that's going to be it. It's

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going to be great. What are we doing today? We

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are spin kicking our way through Roadhouse as

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you try and Patrick persuade me that Patrick

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Swayze is in fact... playing the same man across

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a trilogy of Dirty Dancing, Roadhouse and Point

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Break. I think you're mad, but you've got some

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compelling points. That's right, buddy. I do.

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First off, I'm going to be calling on Exhibit

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A, followed by Exhibit B. Oh. Closely followed

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by Exhibit C. You going to tell us what they

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are? Yes, genius. That is the whole episode.

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Let's get listening. Okay, yeah, yeah, fair.

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I'm hooked. I'm hooked. All right. So I've written

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the breakdown this week. It's a little bit of

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a straight down the middle one. Some people haven't

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seen Roadhouse in a while. They want to be reminded

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what happened. Some people never have and never

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plan to. Spoiler warning for you lot. But we're

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going to be playing around with the fiction.

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We're going to be saying that this guy's another

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guy. So I thought, you know what? Just give the

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audience it straight. Why are you being so hurtful?

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We're not playing around with fiction. We're

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educating fact. Really, fact. Yeah. Fact. Because

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I remember violently saying... Your proof better

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be bulletproof. Otherwise, I'm going to be, and

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I quote, furious. I've seen Roadhouse now. I

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hadn't in episode one. Yeah. I've got some questions

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for you, babe. Get into the breakdown and we'll

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get into your incontrovertible evidence, which

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is, you know, rock solid. I'm going to read the

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breakdown. Not because you just yelled at me

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to, but because I want to. All right. Roadhouse.

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James Dalton is a professional bouncer working

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at a New York City club. Though calm and disciplined,

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he is haunted by the memory of murdering a man.

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I mean, okay. It's not wrong. It's not wrong.

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One night, businessman Frank Tillman recruits

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him to clean up the Double Deuce, a violent and

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lawless bar in Jasper, Missouri. Dalton agrees,

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demanding full control over the club's operations.

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It's a very bold claim for a bouncer to make.

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You know what I mean? Right. Also, what is this

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secret society of like John Wick bouncers? Oh,

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there's loads. We can play with this in a bit.

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I've got a question for this. I've got a thought

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experiment for us later. Okay. Upon arriving,

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he fires all the corrupt staff involved in theft

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and drug dealing. He rents a barn from a local

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farmer named Emmett. Unaware that the mansion

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across the lake, I think it's a river, but we'll

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get into it, belongs to crime boss Brad Wesley,

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who rules the town through intimidation and extortion.

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We discover that Dalton is good with horses,

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which will be important later. Yeah, yeah, don't

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overthink it. Keep going. I'm going, I'm going.

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Wesley quickly targets Dalton. Oh, I think I

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know where this is going. No, you don't. No,

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no, no. No way. Okay. No, no, no. No way. Wesley

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quickly targets Dalton, starting with his nephew,

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Pat, one of the fired employees who attacks Dalton

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and is swiftly beaten. Yeah, he's got a knife

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shoe. He does. I've got a thing for that. Yeah.

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Hopefully it's not a shoe. After getting a knife

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wound in the fight, Dalton visits hospital where

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he meets long -faced Dr. called Elizabeth Clay,

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whom Wesley also desires. That's the horses thing,

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right? You'll have to see, mate. No one knows.

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It's a mystery. Yeah, yeah, sound. Dr. Clay immediately

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throws herself at Dalton. As we said, he's good

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with horses. Literally the next sentence. Who

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could have known? It was out of nowhere. It was

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out of nowhere. As Wesley escalates his harassment,

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he cuts off the Double Deuce's liquor supply

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and sends his thugs to stir up chaos. Dalton's

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mentor, veteran bouncer, Wade Garrett. Oh, famed

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Wade. You know how he is. Famous Wade. Yeah,

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yeah. He's known throughout the lands. Famous,

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way -mus he is. He's also really fit. He is fit.

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Sam Elliott. Woo! Wade Garrett arrives to help.

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Wesley retaliates by torching Elizabeth's uncle's

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auto shop. And ordering a mullet wearing man.

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Gorgeous. Jimmy Reno. Jimmy Reno. Is that his

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name? I also wrote a mullet wearing a man. But

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he's also a mullet wearing man. And his name

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is Jimmy Reno. Jimmy Reno. What a name. When

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Jimmy later blows up Emmett's home, a furious

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Dalton hunts him down. Sure. And murders him

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by ripping out his throat. Horrifying, Elizabeth.

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Everything in this world is flammable. Didn't

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also mention that Jimmy Reno goes to escape on

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a motorbike and Dalton chases him down on foot.

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Yeah. Because that's a thing you can do. Dude,

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he's next to a river, not a lake. He's next to

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a river and it's, you know, it's uneven terrain.

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Right, okay. A Tai Chi ninja bouncer is going

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to outrun a motocross bike. You know what I mean?

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Okay, yeah, fine, fine. I forgot the bouncers

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are... and according to human law, actually T

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-1000s. Oh yeah, 1000%. Wesley calls Dalton,

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threatening to kill either Elizabeth or Garrett.

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Dalton rushes to find Elizabeth safe, but returns

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to the Double Deuce to discover Garrett murdered.

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Enraged, he storms Wesley's estate, killing his

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henchmen before confronting Wesley himself. He

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overpowers Wesley, but chooses to spare him.

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As he steps away, Wesley grabs a gun, only to

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be executed. in cold blood by the local mom and

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pop business owners who have decided to join

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Dalton's murder cult the police arrive but everyone

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denies witnessing anything so literally nothing

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can be done apparently that's how justice works

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that's how it goes man later with Wesley gone

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The newly revitalized Double Deuce thrives. Dalton

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and Elizabeth enjoy a peaceful swim in the lake.

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It's a river, but what's fine. All memory of

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him murdering a man in front of her seems to

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have been erased. Yeah. I think that's pretty

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accurate. It's a very accurate portrayal. I mean,

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everything in this world is flammable. It is.

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You can blow up places by shooting at them. You

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can. You can blow up cars by shooting at them.

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Yeah. Some would say in a country where guns

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are very legal. A flammable car that explodes

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with a bullet hit is dangerous. But then you

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think, it's a Mercedes, so it's not designed

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to be driven in America. Maybe that's why it

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blows up. It's a strong film, Ben, one I hadn't

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seen before. And now I have seen it, I've only

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got more questions about your theory. Yes, and

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I've come with more answers. I'm going to get

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into the theory real quick and do a quick recap.

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The theory is that Johnny Castle, in Dirty Dancing,

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grows up to be... James Dalton in Roadhouse,

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who then grows up to be Bodhi in Point Break.

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They are all the same character. They're all

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the same one and the other. So here's a little

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recap. Johnny Castle, a charming, trustworthy

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guy with a rough side who knows how to fight,

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gets disillusioned with the wealthy and the upper

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classes at Kellerman's. Instead of chasing a

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college degree straight away like everyone else,

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he travels the country wanting to help people,

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practicing spirituality, learning philosophy,

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and evolving his fighting skills. He becomes

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one of the best bouncers in the US, but realises

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his life has gone down a rough path that he doesn't

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want to continue down. He didn't like who he

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became. So he moves to California. He develops

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a new philosophy on life. And after the rich

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people of Kellerman's at Dirty Dancing and Brad

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Wesley in Roadhouse, he now knows two things,

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Robert McFarlane. One, that he never wants to

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work for the man again. And two, steal from the

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rich. And that's when he starts robbing banks.

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It all tracks. is what I'm hearing the loud roar

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of people saying. And I get it. You know what

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I mean? I get it. Do you know what? Do you know

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what? For the first 20 minutes of this film,

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it really tracked. Right. I was like, well, this

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is 100 % the same guy. Yeah. He moves the same.

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He talks the same. Yeah. He looks the same. Yeah.

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I then realized it might be that they're just

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played by the same actor. Yeah. When he's like,

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I was studying philosophy at NYU. and I've killed

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a man, and I grew up in a different state, and

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I've got no mention of baby or being a dancer.

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I don't dance in this film. He doesn't want to

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be known as Johnny Castle anymore, buddy, because

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that life is behind him. He still can pachanga,

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but he just chooses not to. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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The pachanga? Yeah. Sorry, because I'm a classically

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trained dancer. Right. I had to... right okay

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you had to correct me it's actually the pachinko

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it's a japanese traditional dance yeah involves

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a lot of falling down there's loads of marbles

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you know i mean great great great great great

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well look vodka rocks let's get nipple to nipple

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give me your first bit of evidence oh you want

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some evidence going through this okay i've got

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i've got a bunch for this right it is it is intense

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evidence so i'm going to need you to follow me

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because it gets it gets pretty deep pretty quick

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all right okay how about this how about you give

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me your three strongest bits of evidence Okay.

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Before I weigh in. And then we'll have a little

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heart to heart. Got you. And then, you know,

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we'll see where we're at. I'll round it out with

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my least three favourite bits of evidence. I

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love that. I love this. That's the best way of

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doing it. Dude, I bought six pieces of evidence

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exactly for this reason. I love it. God, this

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is why we work. This is why we work. All right.

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So evidence for the crazy Swayze theory. Nobody

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puts baby in the corner. Is this film's pain

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don't hurt. So in Dirty Dancing, right? Hear

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me out on this one. This is a stretch. Please

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explain. Okay. Strong evidence number one. Yes.

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Let me just say this is a stretch. Yeah. Strong

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evidence number one is incredibly thin, but bear

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with me. All right. Right. Yep. In Dirty Dancing,

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when Johnny stands up for baby in front of her

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father. Yeah. And the whole resort. Great scene.

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Yeah. He refuses to let her be dismissed. He's

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like, no, no, no. You live your dreams. We're

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doing our dance. I'm a lift you up. Mm hmm. Dalton

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stands up for various women in the bars that

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he works in. Yes. Standing up against the males

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that are causing a myth chief around them. But

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in Roadhouse, Dalton has a tough yet calm approach

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to dealing with conflict. Right. Much like how

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our Johnny Castle handled conflict. Right. Choosing

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to sometimes walk away instead of get physical.

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Like the bit where he goes to smooth things over

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with baby's father. And baby's father turns around

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and he's like. get the fuck off my porch, you

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absolute reprobate. And rather than fight him,

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he just puts on his sunglasses and storms off

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in a leather jacket because he's mint. Finger

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guns the camera. You know what I mean? Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. That's it. He left us all sopping

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wet. Okay, daddy -o. You know what I mean? It

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was amazing. But this is showing that he's standing

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by his principles that Baby instilled in him.

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Right. Such as when he tells the doctor, pain

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don't hurt. And this is demonstrating both his

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resilience and his philosophical nature. Right,

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okay. This could suggest... that Johnny, after

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years of being knocked around by life, toughened

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up, adopted a no -nonsense and almost zen -like

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attitude towards pain and hardship. Right. Okay,

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let me just respond briefly. Give it. You know,

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you're painting a vision here of a wise man,

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a man who's lived. Oh, very wise, yeah. Pain

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don't hurt. Pain don't hurt. Great phrase. The

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f*** does it mean? It's entirely meaningless.

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Oh yeah, it's nonsense. It's trying to shag a

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nurse. You know what I mean? Right, right. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. But that makes me love it more. Right,

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no, okay, now I hear you. It's a great line.

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It's a great line. Yeah. For... I'm cool as f***

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and it doesn't matter if what I say makes zero

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sense. Oh, I'm sorry. Nobody puts baby in a corner

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when she's sitting against a wall, not in a corner,

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only being repressed by having a lovely meal

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with her wealthy parents in a lovely resort.

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It's actually, as we discussed, it's more of

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an alcove. Exactly. I'll go the other way. I'll

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say what this actually proves is he's still a

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moron who doesn't know how English works. Yes.

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So, okay. It's not Pearls of Wisdom, it's Pearls

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of Nonsense. Pearls of Nonsense. Here we go.

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Great band name, stealing that one. Okay, nice,

00:14:57.409 --> 00:14:59.850
nice, nice. With their album Death Vessels. Yes,

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buddy. Okay, so dancing versus fighting. This

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is evidence number two, and it's down to his

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physicality and his training, right? Right, right.

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Johnny Castle is a dancer, meaning that he has

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control over his body, he has excellent reflexes,

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and impressive flexibility. In Roadhouse... Yes.

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Dalton fights with a very fluid, almost choreographed

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style. You know, his high kicks, his spins, his

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precise... He flows like water. He stings like

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a bee. See? Yeah. Flow like water, sting like

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a bee. That famous phrase. Sung by Wu -Tang.

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Yes. By Mahershala Ali. Yeah. You see what I'm

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saying? Yeah. But the precise movements are almost

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that of a trained dancer. He is like... pinpoint

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accurate with his like fancy ass moves this could

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mean okay johnny transitioned from dance to martial

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arts and self -defense using the same agility

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and coordination he once needed on the dance

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floor i have an example for this one right so

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the fight between dalton and jimmy yeah down

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by the river jimmy reno jimmy reno it is a river

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because spoiler alert if you haven't watched

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it go watch it jimmy reno gets his throat ripped

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out and then we He's pushed out into the lake,

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right? But then the next shot is him very rapidly

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going down, like following a tide. And I'm like,

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that's not a lake. Unless Patrick Swayze has

00:16:22.500 --> 00:16:25.360
thrown this dead body so hard, like a skimming

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pebble. And he's just slowly making his way across

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a lake. I don't understand how this works. Physics

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exists. You know what I mean? No, I hear you.

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It's a very thin lake if it's a lake. It's a

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lake with a very directional current if it's

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a lake. I also have questions about, before you

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carry on, I have questions about the town. Because

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the town seems to consist of the Double Deuce,

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the auto parts shop, and these two houses. Yeah.

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where the antagonist and the protagonist just

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have sex at one another across the river. Yeah,

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essentially. It's open window, like... Sex off,

00:17:01.610 --> 00:17:03.629
yeah. Yeah, watch me clap this ass, and then

00:17:03.629 --> 00:17:06.069
that guy's like, oh, I'm gonna get that guy.

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How dare he clap that ass at me? I don't know.

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I don't know the definition of a town. I don't

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know if you need a church and a phone box, but

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I'm just saying that Jackson doesn't seem to

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have those key elements. It seems to have two

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houses, a river lake, A bar where everyone loves

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fighting all of the time. And a car pop shop.

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Yeah, it's got their car dealership as well.

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And apparently somewhere to buy a monster truck.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's got the car dealership.

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It does. We see that. And it's also got a cafe

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that's open at like 9am to drunkards. Yeah, it's

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amazing. There's like one strip and then some

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outlaying things. You're moving to Telford. Get

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used to this, buddy. It's essentially 12 little

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tiny villages and one shopping centre. Enjoy

00:17:50.849 --> 00:17:54.490
that. From Camden High Street to Telford. You

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are in for a culture shock, my boy. I can't wait.

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But your wider point of Johnny Castle having

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balletic moves that can be fighting moves. I

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will go as far as to say that a spin kick. is

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not too different from a pirouette. It's just

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an angry pirouette. It's just, it's a mischievous

00:18:16.140 --> 00:18:18.680
pirouette. You know what I mean? Right, yeah,

00:18:18.779 --> 00:18:20.920
yeah, yeah. They're very similar. But the dance,

00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:26.000
the fight between him and Jimmy Reno down by

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the river, the way that they move, it's so controlled

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and so rehearsed. And all of his Tai Chi moves

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come into action like this. Yes. It's just, I

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mean, minus the throat ripping. Right, right.

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You know what I mean? I don't know which dance

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that is. Is that Mambo? I've not seen it on Strictly,

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is all I'm saying. I've not seen it on Strictly

00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:49.440
Come Dancing. No, I don't think they do the pachinko

00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:51.019
on the Strictly Come Dancing, though. I think

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that's, it's just, you know what I mean? It's

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regionalised to the pachinko. Right, okay. It's

00:18:56.259 --> 00:18:58.299
a pachinko -specific move. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So this is where I'm coming from. Like, trained

00:19:00.779 --> 00:19:03.599
dancer, martial artist, the sort of, like, the

00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:06.380
fluidity. tracks between the two but it looks

00:19:06.380 --> 00:19:08.799
like there's a few years between you know johnny

00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:10.359
castle and johnny dalton you can kind of piece

00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:12.240
it together however you want to but the transition

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is feasible you know i mean okay okay all right

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so philosophy and growth evidence number three

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right from idealist to realist oh so in dirty

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dancing this might be the strongest point i don't

00:19:27.220 --> 00:19:30.089
know why i've saved this till now right okay

00:19:30.089 --> 00:19:34.250
in Dirty Dancing Johnny is mad passionate super

00:19:34.250 --> 00:19:36.970
idealistic he tries to make it as a dancer he's

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very creative he's very sort of the passion burns

00:19:39.690 --> 00:19:41.769
strong with this one you know what I mean despite

00:19:41.769 --> 00:19:45.289
being a poor person in his lowly social status

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disgusting which is in the dance world is outrageous

00:19:47.329 --> 00:19:50.069
and I'm guessing in your Former circles. Yeah,

00:19:50.210 --> 00:19:53.150
yeah, definitely. Come on, listen to this voice.

00:19:53.289 --> 00:19:55.609
This doesn't come with me. This is expensive.

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No one says bath without having owned at least

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one slave at some point in their life. Do you

00:20:00.609 --> 00:20:03.809
know what I mean? So he fights against the system

00:20:03.809 --> 00:20:06.829
and he still believes in love and dreams. Johnny

00:20:06.829 --> 00:20:09.910
Castle is a lover, is a dreamer, is a creative,

00:20:10.029 --> 00:20:11.950
right? He's not a fighter. He's a lover, yeah.

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Yeah. But by the time of Roadhouse... Dalton

00:20:15.470 --> 00:20:18.390
has become a more hardened realist, but he still

00:20:18.390 --> 00:20:20.910
holds onto a philosophy as discipline, having

00:20:20.910 --> 00:20:23.029
studied philosophy at NYU, according to this

00:20:23.029 --> 00:20:27.410
movie. This could suggest that Johnny, after

00:20:27.410 --> 00:20:29.730
struggling in the entertainment world, sought

00:20:29.730 --> 00:20:32.869
knowledge and self -improvement, eventually adopting

00:20:32.869 --> 00:20:35.589
a more intellectual, measured approach to life.

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Men searching for faith type shit. Remember when

00:20:39.630 --> 00:20:41.470
he says that? when he's trying to bang the nurse

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for the first time pain don't hurt I studied

00:20:43.789 --> 00:20:46.430
philosophy men searching for faith type shit

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he's such an Andrew Tate pin up this guy it's

00:20:49.170 --> 00:20:51.329
insane oh mate let's not let's not take it down

00:20:51.329 --> 00:20:52.890
that road he's not that far come on he's not

00:20:52.890 --> 00:20:55.650
he's macho but he's not sort of like you need

00:20:55.650 --> 00:20:57.549
to be up at 10am making a business you know what

00:20:57.549 --> 00:20:58.970
I mean there's none of that really? yeah okay

00:20:58.970 --> 00:21:02.029
a little bit yeah alright so here you go okay

00:21:02.029 --> 00:21:04.130
now I hear your point I hear your point yeah

00:21:04.130 --> 00:21:07.170
I have a question go on we established in our

00:21:07.579 --> 00:21:09.579
prior episode when we covered Donnie Dancing.

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No, Dirty Dancing. Donnie Dancing in the bin.

00:21:13.460 --> 00:21:16.279
Donnie Dancing would be him, but he is a bit

00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:18.440
Donnie Dancing because in Donnie Darko, Patrick

00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:21.279
Swayze plays a child sex predator. Yeah, he does.

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And in Dirty Dancing, he plays, controversially,

00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:27.160
a child sex predator. A child sex predator. He's

00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:31.440
a 25 -year -old man dating a just 17 -year -old.

00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:35.720
So we know that he's 25 in Dirty Dancing. Yes.

00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:40.180
Which is set in the early 60s. 1963, yeah. Yeah.

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We know that Roadhouse is set in the 80s. Yes.

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So how old is Dalton? I think there's been 25

00:21:48.900 --> 00:21:53.299
years since 1963. Yeah. So we're saying, what,

00:21:53.380 --> 00:21:58.299
he's 50? Yes. Okay. But a very young, agile 15,

00:21:58.420 --> 00:22:00.880
right? It's the Tai Chi. It's the Tai Chi. The

00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:02.779
Tai Chi really holds it in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:02.819 --> 00:22:04.680
The Tai Chi and being good with horses, that's

00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:06.319
what keeps you young. It's not just for sexually

00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:09.720
confusing your landlord. No. By oiling yourself

00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:12.579
up for no reason to do some Tai Chi in the garden.

00:22:12.660 --> 00:22:15.420
Every reason that Patrick Swayze has to oil himself

00:22:15.420 --> 00:22:17.980
up is valid. I'll have none of this slander.

00:22:18.059 --> 00:22:20.779
Okay. Go f*** yourself. Okay. Why are we slandering

00:22:20.779 --> 00:22:22.200
this? That's the best part of the movie. So this

00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:25.380
50 year old man. Yeah. Right. Okay. Practices

00:22:25.380 --> 00:22:28.200
Tai Chi and lives in a barn. Works as a bouncer.

00:22:28.619 --> 00:22:32.099
And is part of the entire industry. Yeah. Part

00:22:32.099 --> 00:22:35.220
of the secret industry of John Wick style bouncers.

00:22:35.579 --> 00:22:39.109
Yeah. Yeah. It all tracks. I hear what you're

00:22:39.109 --> 00:22:41.470
saying, but let me get my evidence out, my dear

00:22:41.470 --> 00:22:44.930
boy. Right. So in the example that I've got here,

00:22:45.650 --> 00:22:48.089
Dolan explains to all the bouncers at the Double

00:22:48.089 --> 00:22:51.170
Deuce, he's like, be nice until it's time to

00:22:51.170 --> 00:22:54.089
not be nice. Now, this sounds like a man that's

00:22:54.089 --> 00:22:56.009
been burned by life. He's learned restraint,

00:22:56.329 --> 00:23:00.109
but he knows how and when to act. And in Dirty

00:23:00.109 --> 00:23:03.430
Dancing, Johnny had to hold back his anger when

00:23:03.430 --> 00:23:05.849
he was falsely accused of theft at the Kellermans.

00:23:06.380 --> 00:23:08.519
proving that he already had some restraint early

00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:10.839
on. And if we go back and watch Dirty Dancing

00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:13.480
again, there is so much restraint from Johnny

00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:15.740
Castle in that film. Yes. When the father wrongly

00:23:15.740 --> 00:23:17.819
accuses him, when he's wrongly accused of theft,

00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:19.920
when he's put down continuously, when he's treated

00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:22.839
like a cheap piece of meat, he restrains himself

00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:25.299
so much to a point and it's all inspired by Baby.

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And I think that Baby put this seed in our James

00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:33.579
Dalton. Right. Okay. I know. Okay. That took

00:23:33.579 --> 00:23:36.359
a sharp left turn because you thought... Right.

00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:40.599
See? I've got some Reddit. Some subreddit. What

00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:42.940
I'm saying is, is I feel like that that was there

00:23:42.940 --> 00:23:46.759
and it's a very feasible evolution mindset of

00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:49.039
someone that's been burned time and time again.

00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:52.440
Lover to fighter, fighter to philosopher. Over

00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:55.160
the 55 years they've been alive. You know what

00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:58.700
I mean? Really? Don't add years on. He's barely

00:23:58.700 --> 00:24:01.339
50. Until he gets to Point Break where he's a

00:24:01.339 --> 00:24:04.259
75 -year -old surfer. Who can rub banks, yeah.

00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:10.500
Not to sound unconvinced, Ben. Okay. This is

00:24:10.500 --> 00:24:14.480
nonsense. Right. This is pure nonsense. Okay.

00:24:14.579 --> 00:24:18.619
But it leads to a deeper question. Yeah. Why

00:24:18.619 --> 00:24:22.460
does this matter? Because you are like... You

00:24:22.460 --> 00:24:24.759
are enthused about this. I love that you've waited

00:24:24.759 --> 00:24:27.880
this long to ask that question. I've been trusting

00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:30.720
you and I'm like, no, no, he's gonna, he's this,

00:24:30.819 --> 00:24:34.440
like, you saved this for the show. We've been

00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:38.180
planning this for a couple months. I've been

00:24:38.180 --> 00:24:40.539
talking about this idea. You've never once asked

00:24:40.539 --> 00:24:43.319
me this. I do believe, I do believe your words

00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:46.960
were, and I quote, let me cook. Yeah, they were.

00:24:47.140 --> 00:24:49.720
Right, okay. Yeah. So what was I supposed to

00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:51.500
do? Right, okay. So you're not letting me cook

00:24:51.500 --> 00:24:53.640
anymore. You're banging the knife and fork on

00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:55.579
the table. Where the f*** is my food? I'm out

00:24:55.579 --> 00:24:58.740
of point. Go in. what what's the dish ben what

00:24:58.740 --> 00:25:02.019
like what's all right what's what's my macronutrients

00:25:02.019 --> 00:25:04.500
here okay at the moment what we've had is we've

00:25:04.500 --> 00:25:07.539
had two films yes that are straight popcorn yes

00:25:07.539 --> 00:25:09.119
and i've been like what do these mean to you

00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:11.400
and like they're just fun they're just fun mindless

00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:14.680
movies and i'm like okay great so what do we

00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:16.559
have to talk about and you're like i've got this

00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:18.880
theory and i'm i'm hearing it and i'm like this

00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:20.839
better be strong right it's better be strong

00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:22.359
and you're like oh don't worry babe it is it

00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:28.720
is and let's be fair it ain't I'm gonna okay

00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:31.779
like what like why can't Johnny Castle just be

00:25:31.779 --> 00:25:34.019
Johnny Castle because why can't James Dalton

00:25:34.019 --> 00:25:37.180
just be James Dalton have you ever watched a

00:25:37.180 --> 00:25:40.299
TV series where you get so attached to the characters

00:25:40.299 --> 00:25:43.380
that you're like when the show comes to an end

00:25:43.380 --> 00:25:47.119
you're like god I miss them I just I just want

00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:50.680
a little update yeah yeah succession like breaking

00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:53.180
bad breaking bad for me yeah yeah when it ended

00:25:53.180 --> 00:25:54.980
i was like god i miss them all so much i want

00:25:54.980 --> 00:25:57.980
to know what's going on i hope jesse's okay yeah

00:25:57.980 --> 00:25:59.839
and then a few years down the line they release

00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:03.220
el camino it's an awful film i adore it because

00:26:03.220 --> 00:26:05.599
it gives me more of what i want it gives me an

00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:07.299
update on the characters that i love and miss

00:26:07.299 --> 00:26:16.240
right yes so this for me okay well right give

00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:20.690
me one sec give me one sec when i was a kid and

00:26:20.690 --> 00:26:24.069
i would be sitting in the living room and it

00:26:24.069 --> 00:26:26.730
was i must have been sort of like five or six

00:26:26.730 --> 00:26:30.450
years old right and my mom and my dad would be

00:26:30.450 --> 00:26:33.990
arguing most most parents do it's fine and sometimes

00:26:33.990 --> 00:26:36.950
it would get like a bit intense and you i'd sit

00:26:36.950 --> 00:26:39.190
there with you know these these purple crushed

00:26:39.190 --> 00:26:43.599
velvet cushions from the sofa over my ears classy

00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:45.960
and i would focus on the tv to try and drown

00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:48.079
out this stuff and whatever was on the tv was

00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:50.819
was sort of like what i became you know hyper

00:26:50.819 --> 00:26:53.059
focused on block the world out and this is this

00:26:53.059 --> 00:26:55.200
is it these are the sort of films that were playing

00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:57.640
at the time okay and there'll be other moments

00:26:57.640 --> 00:26:59.519
in my childhood where my brother had gone to

00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:03.000
work but a vhs copy of roadhouse would be in

00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:05.519
the video player in his room so i would sneak

00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:08.349
in i would sit there There was, just outside

00:27:08.349 --> 00:27:10.109
of the bedroom door, there was like a whole world

00:27:10.109 --> 00:27:11.650
of stuff that's happening that I don't understand.

00:27:11.849 --> 00:27:14.230
I don't really want to. I just want it to stop.

00:27:14.450 --> 00:27:18.109
Yeah. Roadhouse is on. And then... Mint. Johnny

00:27:18.109 --> 00:27:20.630
Castle will come on the screen during Dirty Dancing.

00:27:21.369 --> 00:27:23.289
Dalton will come on the screen during Roadhouse.

00:27:23.329 --> 00:27:25.450
And they're these two guys that can... They stand

00:27:25.450 --> 00:27:28.089
on their own. They don't need anyone else. They

00:27:28.089 --> 00:27:30.359
don't... rely on anyone else they don't have

00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:32.579
anyone else sort of inflicting anything or like

00:27:32.579 --> 00:27:34.920
controlling anything or there's no sort of sway

00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:38.640
from anyone else they just are yeah and f***ing

00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:40.779
hell re -watching Roadhouse I'm like Dalton might

00:27:40.779 --> 00:27:45.319
be the coolest person that I've ever looked up

00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:47.839
to ever in my entire life and it's one of those

00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:50.720
moments where I just missed him right and then

00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:52.460
I saw this theory and I was like you know what

00:27:52.460 --> 00:27:54.599
do you know who I haven't seen in a little while

00:27:54.599 --> 00:28:00.069
my good buddy who helped me sort of escape the

00:28:00.069 --> 00:28:03.289
weird for a bit so James Dalton what's interesting

00:28:03.289 --> 00:28:06.789
is my primary criticism of this film is that

00:28:06.789 --> 00:28:10.390
it is exactly the sort of script that an 8 year

00:28:10.390 --> 00:28:14.250
old boy would write about a kung fu fighting

00:28:14.250 --> 00:28:17.829
bouncer but he's not an idiot because he's got

00:28:17.829 --> 00:28:21.250
a degree in philosophy and he dates this really

00:28:21.250 --> 00:28:23.950
hot woman but she's not being objectified because

00:28:23.950 --> 00:28:27.039
she's a doctor so she's wicked smart yeah like

00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:29.579
it's it's but look at all the bad stuff that's

00:28:29.579 --> 00:28:31.460
happening to him and he can just get up and dust

00:28:31.460 --> 00:28:33.559
it off he gets stabbed pain don't hurt right

00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:35.900
you just get on with it buddy and master of his

00:28:35.900 --> 00:28:39.140
own destiny and doesn't have to endure anything

00:28:39.140 --> 00:28:41.700
if he sees something that isn't right he fixes

00:28:41.700 --> 00:28:44.799
it exactly there is a super heroic quality to

00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:47.460
James Dalton exactly he has the power to change

00:28:47.460 --> 00:28:49.240
the stuff around him and stand up for the little

00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:53.180
guy whereas with Johnny Castle there is a warmth

00:28:53.180 --> 00:28:56.130
and a comfort in there he is treated with a kindness

00:28:56.130 --> 00:29:00.829
and a respect and a care by the woman in the

00:29:00.829 --> 00:29:04.369
film baby yeah and he appreciates that care and

00:29:04.369 --> 00:29:07.809
he values it as he should he recognizes its rarity

00:29:07.809 --> 00:29:12.690
yeah so to combine those two is is a powerful

00:29:12.690 --> 00:29:16.289
powerful thing right and i can't criticize it

00:29:16.289 --> 00:29:18.549
now because i don't want to take the velvet cushions

00:29:18.549 --> 00:29:20.829
off right don't So what I'm going to do, I'm

00:29:20.829 --> 00:29:24.230
going to nestle down. We'll go ear to ear. It'll

00:29:24.230 --> 00:29:26.470
get a bit sweaty, but it's all right. I'll have

00:29:26.470 --> 00:29:28.210
the velvet cushion on my left. I'll have you

00:29:28.210 --> 00:29:30.549
on my right ear. And then you can all, we'll

00:29:30.549 --> 00:29:34.250
just be a head sandwich. I like this. I like

00:29:34.250 --> 00:29:36.450
this. I like the thing that solved my theory.

00:29:36.490 --> 00:29:40.230
It's childhood trauma. What can I say against

00:29:40.230 --> 00:29:43.150
it? Yeah, do it. It'll be on the internet forever.

00:29:43.289 --> 00:29:51.009
Go for it. I do think, weirdly, Yeah. Linking

00:29:51.009 --> 00:29:53.849
them together. I wouldn't have done it with the

00:29:53.849 --> 00:29:56.569
in -universe stuff. Okay. I'd have done it with

00:29:56.569 --> 00:29:58.470
the fact that they are the exact opposite of

00:29:58.470 --> 00:30:02.009
each other as a film. Okay. Roadhouse does for

00:30:02.009 --> 00:30:05.910
boys what Dirty Dancing did for girls. Yes, it

00:30:05.910 --> 00:30:08.670
does. Where you had dance scenes in Dirty Dancing,

00:30:08.890 --> 00:30:11.849
surprisingly, you've got fight scenes in Roadhouse.

00:30:11.930 --> 00:30:14.210
It's the same level of physicality. Yeah. It's

00:30:14.210 --> 00:30:16.630
just in one, it's romance, and in the other,

00:30:16.650 --> 00:30:20.809
it's fighting. Yeah. In one, we had love and

00:30:20.809 --> 00:30:23.589
romance at the forefront. And in the second,

00:30:23.630 --> 00:30:26.390
we've got nudity and sexuality in the forefront.

00:30:26.690 --> 00:30:29.329
Funnily enough, Dirty Dancing was made for no

00:30:29.329 --> 00:30:31.789
money and made millions and millions and millions.

00:30:32.049 --> 00:30:34.990
And Roadhouse is not a legit B -movie. It was

00:30:34.990 --> 00:30:38.809
made for millions and produced by Joel Silver,

00:30:38.930 --> 00:30:44.309
who made Brewster's Millions and The Matrix and

00:30:44.309 --> 00:30:47.680
The Die Hard, Lethal Weapon. yeah he's a huge

00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:50.180
producer and it made b -movie money at the time

00:30:50.180 --> 00:30:52.640
it was only really on on video and also there

00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:55.240
is a link there is there is a link there is but

00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:58.380
i i'm gonna i'm gonna stop i'm gonna stop fighting

00:30:58.380 --> 00:31:00.599
against it i'm gonna say they're the same guy

00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.920
even though he would be 50 okay i think what

00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.519
it is i think what it is is there's a scene where

00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:10.440
he goes in to see his wicked smart blonde bimbo

00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:12.359
girlfriend who's not a bimbo because she's a

00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.369
doctor she looks at an x -ray in one scene I

00:31:15.369 --> 00:31:18.450
think he doesn't take painkillers. She's like,

00:31:18.549 --> 00:31:20.230
do you want some anesthetic? And he's like, nah,

00:31:20.349 --> 00:31:24.970
pain don't hurt. I think he's sober. Ooh, okay.

00:31:25.109 --> 00:31:28.450
I think what actually happens at the end of Dirty

00:31:28.450 --> 00:31:31.150
Dancing... She just goes home. Holiday's over.

00:31:31.450 --> 00:31:35.009
I would agree. I would agree. I think baby goes

00:31:35.009 --> 00:31:37.569
home to a wealthy lifestyle and forgets all about

00:31:37.569 --> 00:31:40.650
slumming it for a summer. Yeah. And I think it

00:31:40.650 --> 00:31:42.670
breaks his heart and he ends up on a bad path.

00:31:42.789 --> 00:31:45.509
They think he starts drinking. Ooh, okay. I think

00:31:45.509 --> 00:31:48.890
he ends up on the street. I think he does a few

00:31:48.890 --> 00:31:51.890
things behind some bins to get a fix. Okay. And

00:31:51.890 --> 00:31:54.970
then he hits rock bottom and he goes, I've got

00:31:54.970 --> 00:31:57.410
to clean up my act. Yeah. And he goes to AA.

00:31:57.930 --> 00:32:00.150
Yeah. And that's where he gets his philosophy

00:32:00.150 --> 00:32:03.609
from. Okay. That's where he begins to connect

00:32:03.609 --> 00:32:05.990
with his inner self. He realizes he's been looking

00:32:05.990 --> 00:32:08.849
outward, blaming the world for everything. He's

00:32:08.849 --> 00:32:11.789
not looking in. He's not seeing the need. I like

00:32:11.789 --> 00:32:13.630
this. You know, he's had his velvet cushions

00:32:13.630 --> 00:32:16.890
on and he's not experienced the world. Okay.

00:32:17.029 --> 00:32:19.470
So then he starts doing Tai Chi for spiritual

00:32:19.470 --> 00:32:22.349
reasons. Yeah. And he needs a job. And you know

00:32:22.349 --> 00:32:25.400
what? He leaves Johnny Castle behind. Johnny

00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:28.380
Castle is everything. He didn't do it for him.

00:32:28.420 --> 00:32:30.720
He becomes a new man. I love this. The name Johnny

00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.380
Castle doesn't describe who he is anymore. He's

00:32:33.380 --> 00:32:35.559
not that guy anymore. He's going to put baby

00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:39.059
right in that fucking corner. Yeah. Forget about

00:32:39.059 --> 00:32:42.740
me. I'm a banger horse on a roof, mate. Exactly.

00:32:42.740 --> 00:32:45.579
There we go. There we go. I like this. I'm going

00:32:45.579 --> 00:32:48.559
to sexually confuse some farmers and bang a horse

00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:50.799
in full view of our ex. Do you know what my favourite

00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.240
thing about your thought experiment there was?

00:32:53.539 --> 00:32:56.980
Right. You've listened to the reason that I love

00:32:56.980 --> 00:32:58.920
these movies and that I wanted to do this theory

00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:03.140
is that sort of like weird childhood trauma and

00:33:03.140 --> 00:33:05.259
escapism. And you were like, yeah. Yeah. So your

00:33:05.259 --> 00:33:07.960
hero, your superhero. sort of guy that you used

00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.619
to look up to, ended up behind bins giving head

00:33:10.619 --> 00:33:14.839
for fixes and then started abusing women. And

00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:17.700
I'm like, oh, that's so sweet that you've heard.

00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:22.579
Ben, Ben, what's more heroic than a recovery

00:33:22.579 --> 00:33:25.920
story, bro? He hit rock bottom and he clawed

00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.440
his way back up. Dude, fair. That, I respect

00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:31.519
the shit out of that. It makes me like him more,

00:33:31.539 --> 00:33:34.519
weirdly. He's more super heroic if he's, you

00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:36.440
know. I like to think of him more as like Johnny

00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:39.160
Castle left Kellerman's and was like, I'm going

00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.339
to get my Pechanga chance. I'm going to get my

00:33:42.339 --> 00:33:44.619
dance. And he starts going for like Broadway.

00:33:44.819 --> 00:33:47.380
And Broadway are like, you're good. You're good,

00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.240
but you're a wild card. And we've got too many

00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.740
wild cards on Broadway. It's a damn cesspit of

00:33:52.740 --> 00:33:54.680
wild cards. We need some straight shooters. And

00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:57.319
Johnny Castle by gosh darn it, you ain't it.

00:33:57.529 --> 00:33:59.230
Why doesn't he go to Vegas? Just go to Vegas.

00:33:59.430 --> 00:34:02.210
So he gets on a train to Vegas. Oh, wow. Okay,

00:34:02.269 --> 00:34:04.549
you've got this. He gets on the Greyhound bus

00:34:04.549 --> 00:34:07.230
to Vegas. Wow, the Greyhound. Where he tries

00:34:07.230 --> 00:34:11.110
to make it as backup dancer for who was big in

00:34:11.110 --> 00:34:13.610
the 60s and 70s. Siegfried and Roy. There you

00:34:13.610 --> 00:34:15.409
go. Siegfried and Roy. He's trying to dance with

00:34:15.409 --> 00:34:17.550
the tigers. He's like, yes, buddy, get me in.

00:34:17.610 --> 00:34:19.429
Watch me peer away my way through this white

00:34:19.429 --> 00:34:23.070
tiger den. He is in Vegas. He's trying to get

00:34:23.070 --> 00:34:25.199
jobs left, right, and center. It's not... massively

00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:26.880
panning out. He has a few little eggs here and

00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.659
there. Swayze eggs. And he's like, God, man,

00:34:29.780 --> 00:34:33.019
money's tight. I need to avoid the bins. Yeah.

00:34:33.099 --> 00:34:34.840
Because the bins are looking tempting. I need

00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.699
to avoid them. So I'll tell you what, I can just

00:34:37.699 --> 00:34:39.780
jump on the doors here. I'm built like a brick

00:34:39.780 --> 00:34:42.800
shithouse. I can be a bouncer. And I can fight

00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.139
intoxicated 18 -year -olds. I can flirt with

00:34:45.139 --> 00:34:47.760
20 -year -olds. And I can get paid minimum wage

00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:49.800
and feel like a king for six hours. You know

00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:51.719
what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think

00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:53.699
that did it for him. And I think there he was

00:34:53.699 --> 00:34:55.860
like, that's where he really started to shine.

00:34:55.980 --> 00:34:57.400
But people were like, Johnny Castle, ain't you

00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:01.619
the guy that was pirouetting across? that stage

00:35:01.619 --> 00:35:03.059
the other night and he's like no where do you

00:35:03.059 --> 00:35:04.760
think he got his injuries from he got mauled

00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.119
by a tiger at Siegfried and Roy yeah he got stabbed

00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.119
by a panda on the way into the Siegfried show

00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:12.239
it's a famously rowdy crowd so he's like no no

00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:14.559
no this ain't me anymore this ain't me I'm no

00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:19.219
I'm not Johnny Castle I'm I'm J I'm James James

00:35:19.219 --> 00:35:21.840
yeah Dalton I'm James Dalton and I'm the doorman

00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.559
You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I think it

00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:26.659
just blossomed from there. Dalton gains his notoriety

00:35:26.659 --> 00:35:28.579
throughout Vegas. Vegas spreads to California.

00:35:28.659 --> 00:35:32.059
California across the nation. Okay. Known for

00:35:32.059 --> 00:35:36.219
this Tai Chi beautiful, beautiful marble statue

00:35:36.219 --> 00:35:40.880
of a man who can come in. fire your staff take

00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.940
over all admin control of your business yeah

00:35:43.940 --> 00:35:46.239
and as a mate who's fitter than him but somehow

00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:49.000
25 years older it's that or he's a zodiac killer

00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:51.699
that's those are my two theories oh that's a

00:35:51.699 --> 00:35:53.920
good one because he's he's fun to murder dude

00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.519
his kill count is huge his kill count is is too

00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.000
huge his kill count is more than some horror

00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.059
movies that i truly enjoy you know what i mean

00:36:02.059 --> 00:36:04.280
yeah yeah yeah he murders a bunch of henchmen

00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.670
at the end of this film a bunch of them die but

00:36:06.670 --> 00:36:08.489
okay but now that I've got you a little bit back

00:36:08.489 --> 00:36:10.670
on board and I've kind of guilt tripped you into

00:36:10.670 --> 00:36:13.030
just subscribing to the theory fully on board

00:36:13.030 --> 00:36:17.050
so I've got a few other pieces of evidence I'm

00:36:17.050 --> 00:36:19.389
gonna say evidence because we're both fully saying

00:36:19.389 --> 00:36:21.650
that it is 100 % the truth right now because

00:36:21.650 --> 00:36:23.570
if not you may as well just punch baby Ben in

00:36:23.570 --> 00:36:25.590
the face yeah okay taking the piss now but go

00:36:25.590 --> 00:36:28.769
ahead yeah laying it on thick buddy laying it

00:36:28.769 --> 00:36:32.309
on thick Johnny Castle and James Dalton They

00:36:32.309 --> 00:36:35.449
both have issues with wealthy controlling figures.

00:36:35.710 --> 00:36:38.010
They do. Dirty dancing. Johnny is constantly

00:36:38.010 --> 00:36:39.789
belittled by the upper class at Kellerman's.

00:36:40.110 --> 00:36:44.110
He's wrongly accused of theft. He's forced to

00:36:44.110 --> 00:36:46.530
stay in the background and he only wins at the

00:36:46.530 --> 00:36:48.550
end because he stands up for himself and baby

00:36:48.550 --> 00:36:52.090
by throwing away his summer bonus, fighting for

00:36:52.090 --> 00:36:56.510
what's right and just. Yeah. In Roadhouse. Yeah.

00:36:56.590 --> 00:37:00.320
Dalton faces Brad Wesley. A corrupt and powerful

00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.739
businessman who runs the town with an iron fist.

00:37:03.099 --> 00:37:05.820
Wesley sees Dalton as a threat because he cannot

00:37:05.820 --> 00:37:08.380
control him. Just like how the Kellerman staff

00:37:08.380 --> 00:37:11.519
saw Johnny as a wild card, someone that they

00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:13.800
cannot control, someone who is always going to

00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:17.559
mouth off if something ain't right. Yeah. Right.

00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:20.079
Wesley's goons, they go in to try and intimidate

00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:22.300
Dalton, but he refuses to back down. Similar

00:37:22.300 --> 00:37:26.420
to how Johnny refuses to back down when baby's

00:37:26.420 --> 00:37:28.860
father disapproves of him or when he's paid to

00:37:28.860 --> 00:37:33.079
leave Kellerman's. Okay. And again, I fully endorse

00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:37.900
your theory and I'm happy to say yes. Sure. I'm

00:37:37.900 --> 00:37:41.460
just going to add, Roadhouse is very much more

00:37:41.460 --> 00:37:43.519
of like a Western remake. No, it is. It's an

00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:46.019
80s Western set in. The sheriff pulls up and

00:37:46.019 --> 00:37:49.239
there's varmints. illegally taxing and extorting

00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:51.860
the locals it's pale rider it's shane it's all

00:37:51.860 --> 00:37:53.940
that stuff right yeah of course that's a sort

00:37:53.940 --> 00:37:57.340
of reasonable and just as you said rich authority

00:37:57.340 --> 00:38:00.159
figure for him to kick against yeah i do feel

00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:03.480
in dirty dancing the rich authority figure is

00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.159
a father trying to stop his 17 year old getting

00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:09.679
banged by a 25 year old we can split hairs all

00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:11.699
right we can sit here and split hairs all day

00:38:11.699 --> 00:38:14.440
long but are we gonna get to the bottom of this

00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:18.679
no okay so Now, where was this attitude on the

00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:26.239
Chaplin series, Ben? Because she was 15 and he

00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:29.420
was in his 30s. That's wrong, Rob. Right. Okay.

00:38:29.539 --> 00:38:34.820
Yeah. Cool. Sold, mate. Sold. Moving on. Okay.

00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:40.840
This one is a stretch. Shut up. The same kind

00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:44.340
of best friend slash mentors slash inspiration,

00:38:44.579 --> 00:38:48.460
I guess. Okay. Okay. Bit of a stretch. Yeah.

00:38:48.539 --> 00:38:50.559
All right. Read Richard's on line one. Look,

00:38:50.579 --> 00:38:53.920
it's thin, but it's there. All right. Dirty dancing.

00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:56.000
Johnny's got a close bond with Penny, who is

00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.500
another dancer. She's a better dancer. Yeah.

00:38:58.579 --> 00:39:00.039
She's another dancer who helps him through his

00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.440
tough times. He looks out for her. They share

00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:05.300
a deep history. In Roadhouse, Dalton has a similar

00:39:05.300 --> 00:39:07.860
relationship with Wade Garrett, Sam Elliott's

00:39:07.860 --> 00:39:10.159
character. Wade is an older, experienced bouncer

00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:12.000
who serves as Dalton's mentor and best friend

00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.699
because he's a better bouncer. He takes this

00:39:14.699 --> 00:39:18.519
one person, he hyper focuses on them and he uses

00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:22.639
their expertise and their sort of willingness

00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:26.619
to teach as a way to better himself. So the parallels

00:39:26.619 --> 00:39:29.800
here, Johnny and Dalton always have close confidence

00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:32.840
who are a huge part of his world. Whether it's

00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:35.739
Penny in dance or Wade in bar security, someone

00:39:35.739 --> 00:39:37.500
to keep him on the straight and narrow, keep

00:39:37.500 --> 00:39:40.719
him in check and someone who is always encouraging

00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:43.800
him. to hone his craft and maintain his discipline.

00:39:44.139 --> 00:39:46.500
There is never a moment where Penny's like, yeah,

00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:48.079
fuck it, cut loose for a bit. She's like, no

00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:50.239
dickhead, learn to tango. This is what we're

00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.460
doing. Step, step, step. There's not a scene

00:39:52.460 --> 00:39:56.340
in Dirty Dancing where Penny tries to aggressively

00:39:56.340 --> 00:40:00.840
bang Baby in front of Johnny Castle. Would it

00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:03.579
have made the film a better film? is the question

00:40:03.579 --> 00:40:05.559
that we're asking this is the real question nothing

00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:07.360
can make Dirty Dancing a better film it's perfect

00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.760
in every way it's banging isn't it see after

00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:11.900
all the hate I love that you're on board with

00:40:11.900 --> 00:40:14.199
this it's my favourite thing 100 % on board alright

00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:17.409
so now we've kind of been down this road But

00:40:17.409 --> 00:40:20.409
I've written out a little thing where it's Johnny

00:40:20.409 --> 00:40:23.190
Castle's future. Where could Dalton have come

00:40:23.190 --> 00:40:26.070
from? After Dirty Dancing, Johnny Castle was

00:40:26.070 --> 00:40:28.349
still struggling to find work. Yeah, yeah, we

00:40:28.349 --> 00:40:31.809
got this. I'm down with this one. This is where

00:40:31.809 --> 00:40:33.690
it is. I'm down with this one. So he couldn't

00:40:33.690 --> 00:40:36.789
sustain that career. Takes the door jobs. Ends

00:40:36.789 --> 00:40:39.780
up bouncer. Loses the name. Yeah. You know what

00:40:39.780 --> 00:40:41.239
I mean? Yeah, yeah. Fair, fair, fair. Plus, if

00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:43.239
you think about it, Dalton feels like someone

00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:45.800
that's used to handling this kind of world. He's

00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:48.360
used to handling people knowing who he is. Okay,

00:40:48.500 --> 00:40:50.559
okay. I'm going to hit you with three facts now.

00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.119
Give it. And these are incontrovertible facts.

00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:56.539
Mm -hmm. And they may add to your theory. They

00:40:56.539 --> 00:40:58.119
may take away from it. Okay. I'm going to let

00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.619
you decide. Yeah. We mentioned him earlier. Joel

00:41:00.619 --> 00:41:02.659
Silver, the producer of the movie, made Weird

00:41:02.659 --> 00:41:04.840
Science, Brewster's Millions, Lethal Weapon,

00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.320
Predator, Die Hard. Hit me. Did you know he invented

00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:11.559
Ultimate Frisbee? I did not know this, but it

00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:14.579
makes me like him more. Right. Yeah. I had no

00:41:14.579 --> 00:41:16.300
idea. I was just researching this movie. I was

00:41:16.300 --> 00:41:18.679
like, right, okay, Ben's bringing some in -universe

00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:22.019
stuff. And there was lots that was interesting.

00:41:22.219 --> 00:41:25.260
But the idea that Joel Silver has been inducted

00:41:25.260 --> 00:41:29.019
into the USA Ultimate Hall of Fame for inventing

00:41:29.019 --> 00:41:33.360
Ultimate Frisbee. Right. At Columbia High School.

00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:37.909
Okay. Right. Yeah. I think a man who invents

00:41:37.909 --> 00:41:40.650
Ultimate Frisbee sees Dirty Dancing and goes,

00:41:40.829 --> 00:41:43.809
but what about the young lads? What if we just

00:41:43.809 --> 00:41:46.869
did the exact same film? We had the exact same

00:41:46.869 --> 00:41:50.829
relationships. We had the exact same actor. But

00:41:50.829 --> 00:41:53.630
we just tweaked the formula a little bit. Yeah.

00:41:53.769 --> 00:41:56.889
And made it for lads. Perfect. Perfect. All day

00:41:56.889 --> 00:42:04.309
long. Because it worked. It worked. Secondly,

00:42:04.949 --> 00:42:09.550
this was used in police training, causing a massive

00:42:09.550 --> 00:42:12.230
political scandal. Incredible. Wait, Roadhouse

00:42:12.230 --> 00:42:14.110
was used in police training, like actual real

00:42:14.110 --> 00:42:16.750
life police training? Americans, I'm sorry for

00:42:16.750 --> 00:42:18.510
everything that's going on with you guys right

00:42:18.510 --> 00:42:22.110
now. But I'm also sorry you live in a world where

00:42:22.110 --> 00:42:26.150
after the death of Eric Garner, famously, unfortunately,

00:42:26.710 --> 00:42:28.969
his last words were, I can't breathe. At the

00:42:28.969 --> 00:42:32.579
NYPD, show the Swayze scene. to all of their

00:42:32.579 --> 00:42:35.340
new recruits about the three rules for avoiding

00:42:35.340 --> 00:42:39.079
violent conflict. Expect the unexpected, don't

00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:42.599
instigate, and be nice. That's fucking insane.

00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.760
That's actually insane. I'm not a fan of Roadhouse,

00:42:45.900 --> 00:42:48.559
but I think it's excellent at what it does. And

00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:51.579
it sets out what it does. I can see that this

00:42:51.579 --> 00:42:54.860
is your perfect film, and I love how much you

00:42:54.860 --> 00:42:58.000
love Roadhouse. Thank you, man. I'm so incredibly

00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.599
glad Roadhouse exists so that you can watch it.

00:43:01.820 --> 00:43:04.239
Yeah. It's not for me, but nonetheless. You haven't

00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.880
seen it on VHS. You're moving up here soon. Do

00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.420
you know, I would never put it on after. Yeah.

00:43:09.860 --> 00:43:12.659
Yeah. I mean, I would draw a line. You know what

00:43:12.659 --> 00:43:14.380
I mean? Right. After a national tragedy and a

00:43:14.380 --> 00:43:16.699
police brutality incident, I might not go, I

00:43:16.699 --> 00:43:20.280
might stick Roadhouse in. Right. Right. The film

00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:22.920
where somebody sells kissing his girlfriend's

00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:26.199
boobs for $20. Hey, man, everyone's got to get

00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:29.059
by. You know what I mean? Right. And then only

00:43:29.059 --> 00:43:32.050
starts a fight when the guy. doesn't kiss him

00:43:32.050 --> 00:43:34.730
because he doesn't have $20. And then everyone

00:43:34.730 --> 00:43:37.750
fights, causing thousands of dollars of property

00:43:37.750 --> 00:43:40.130
damage. Them tits were worth it. Did you see

00:43:40.130 --> 00:43:44.889
them? They were fine. Fine enough to cost thousands

00:43:44.889 --> 00:43:47.389
of pounds worth of damage to the double deuce.

00:43:48.190 --> 00:43:50.969
And this is the one that I'm most excited to

00:43:50.969 --> 00:43:54.309
tell you, Ben. Go on. It's a true story. Oh,

00:43:55.429 --> 00:43:58.530
you knew. Oh, damn it. What is it? Damn it. It's

00:43:58.530 --> 00:44:01.090
a true story. What you're about to tell me is

00:44:01.090 --> 00:44:06.349
a true story. No, Rotas. Oh, right. I thought

00:44:06.349 --> 00:44:07.750
you were going to carry on with something like,

00:44:07.789 --> 00:44:10.150
this is a true story. I have got a true story

00:44:10.150 --> 00:44:14.170
for later. Okay. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like

00:44:14.170 --> 00:44:17.210
a... It's an unsolved murder of a town bully.

00:44:17.429 --> 00:44:20.570
Yes. Now, bear in mind, this is the most Missouri

00:44:20.570 --> 00:44:25.289
name ever. Yes. Ken Rex McElroy. Yeah. Yeah.

00:44:25.349 --> 00:44:28.110
Incredible. God, that makes me so jealous. Rex.

00:44:28.309 --> 00:44:32.289
Right, Ken Rex, K .R. McElroy. Amazing. Was shot

00:44:32.289 --> 00:44:35.769
in front of 30 people, none of whom could name

00:44:35.769 --> 00:44:38.750
the gunman. God damn. They all just went, didn't

00:44:38.750 --> 00:44:41.730
see anything. So this is my point about Roadhouse,

00:44:41.789 --> 00:44:43.889
right? When people point out the illogical mental

00:44:43.889 --> 00:44:47.030
ending where everyone just hides the guns and

00:44:47.030 --> 00:44:49.699
then goes, did you see anything? yeah a polar

00:44:49.699 --> 00:44:52.519
bear fell on me that was a henchman whose boss

00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.300
has just been brutally murdered freshly murdered

00:44:55.300 --> 00:44:57.360
in front of his face yeah and the only thing

00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.260
he can do is a shit quip dude i'm telling you

00:45:00.260 --> 00:45:01.719
when people look at that and everyone's having

00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:03.340
a little giggle like well that wouldn't happen

00:45:03.340 --> 00:45:05.739
it fucking did though didn't it it did though

00:45:05.739 --> 00:45:07.699
it did this is my point that was the moment i

00:45:07.699 --> 00:45:11.980
went okay you see okay maybe maybe truth is stranger

00:45:11.980 --> 00:45:14.429
than fiction This is what I'm saying. Dude, America

00:45:14.429 --> 00:45:18.889
is a mental place. It is just the weirdest place

00:45:18.889 --> 00:45:22.030
on the planet. I've travelled... Southeast Asia

00:45:22.030 --> 00:45:24.690
was incredible, right? Middle East, incredible.

00:45:25.090 --> 00:45:28.050
Like, all across Europe, incredible. America

00:45:28.050 --> 00:45:31.610
was by far the weirdest place I've ever been

00:45:31.610 --> 00:45:34.519
because of how mental it is. I had a taxi driver

00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:36.719
once say, do an American accent and order a taco.

00:45:37.059 --> 00:45:38.900
Pulled into a drive -thru and I was like, why?

00:45:39.139 --> 00:45:40.460
And he was like, I'll give you the taxi ride

00:45:40.460 --> 00:45:42.679
for free. Just for fun. That was just what he

00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:44.539
did for a bit of a giggle. Okay, that's good.

00:45:44.699 --> 00:45:46.500
Here's a British man. I'm going to pull into

00:45:46.500 --> 00:45:48.780
a drive -thru, do an American accent. And if

00:45:48.780 --> 00:45:51.719
it's good, I'll give you the taxi ride for free.

00:45:51.820 --> 00:45:55.920
I was like, I just want to go to the beach. Please,

00:45:56.099 --> 00:45:58.280
I don't feel safe. I don't want a taco bell.

00:45:58.750 --> 00:46:00.550
I would just very much like to go to the beach.

00:46:00.670 --> 00:46:03.789
Thank you so much. Yeah. You're very kind. Incredible.

00:46:04.190 --> 00:46:05.809
Obviously, I did it because it was hilarious.

00:46:07.050 --> 00:46:09.570
Free taxi ride, by the way. Nice. Speaking of

00:46:09.570 --> 00:46:11.670
true stories, I do have a true story that I've

00:46:11.670 --> 00:46:13.949
been dying to tell. I've been dying to tell,

00:46:14.130 --> 00:46:18.150
but I've not had any, like, there's been no film

00:46:18.150 --> 00:46:20.210
that's had a good synergy with the story. Okay,

00:46:20.250 --> 00:46:22.590
if this is your true life account of how you

00:46:22.590 --> 00:46:25.590
once roadhoused someone. Sort of. There's a spin

00:46:25.590 --> 00:46:29.650
kick involved. As long as it's not a throat rip,

00:46:29.690 --> 00:46:31.630
I'm alright. No, no, no throat rip. Yeah, sounds,

00:46:31.710 --> 00:46:33.650
sounds, sounds. Right, it's mainly to do... The

00:46:33.650 --> 00:46:36.269
link here is bouncers. I was a bouncer for a

00:46:36.269 --> 00:46:38.550
while. Okay. I did a brief stint as a bouncer.

00:46:38.570 --> 00:46:41.010
I did spin kick somebody. Were you a bouncer?

00:46:41.190 --> 00:46:43.909
Now, firstly, let me make it abundantly clear

00:46:43.909 --> 00:46:46.309
that the party I went to... They made it very

00:46:46.309 --> 00:46:48.769
clear that the bouncy castle was for all ages.

00:46:49.010 --> 00:46:51.849
You are a f***ing idiot. Ben, I've needed to

00:46:51.849 --> 00:46:53.690
crowbar this story in for so long. This is the

00:46:53.690 --> 00:46:57.369
best I can do. Okay. So, Colleague had a birthday

00:46:57.369 --> 00:46:59.610
party and her parents, they did like a joint

00:46:59.610 --> 00:47:01.809
affair where it was like her mum's birthday,

00:47:01.869 --> 00:47:03.489
her dad's birthday and her birthday were all

00:47:03.489 --> 00:47:05.929
being celebrated at once, right? Yeah. Big age

00:47:05.929 --> 00:47:08.710
gaps. So, there was a lot of people and a lot

00:47:08.710 --> 00:47:10.909
of families and a lot of elderly people and a

00:47:10.909 --> 00:47:13.309
lot of kids. So, they rented a bouncy castle.

00:47:14.059 --> 00:47:16.980
And I attended the party under the guise of being

00:47:16.980 --> 00:47:18.920
a good friend to this colleague. But it was,

00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:22.199
I'm not ashamed to admit, almost entirely. Because

00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:24.260
when she invited me, she said, we're getting

00:47:24.260 --> 00:47:26.780
a bouncy castle. And bitch loves herself a bouncy

00:47:26.780 --> 00:47:31.039
castle, right? Right. So I get there. I start

00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:32.840
drinking. This isn't that long ago. This is like

00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:35.670
six months ago. It's quite a well -to -do party.

00:47:35.809 --> 00:47:38.170
She's far richer than I imagined. I thought it

00:47:38.170 --> 00:47:40.469
was going to be like a bouncy castle in a driveway

00:47:40.469 --> 00:47:43.389
of like a housing development. It's not. They've

00:47:43.389 --> 00:47:45.690
got like a farmhouse. Her parents are farmers.

00:47:46.309 --> 00:47:48.510
They've got like four fucking kitchens. It's

00:47:48.510 --> 00:47:50.329
insane. They're good with horses. They're good

00:47:50.329 --> 00:47:54.099
with horses. I'm quite shy. and my friends and

00:47:54.099 --> 00:47:56.420
i just sort of loitered like sex offenders near

00:47:56.420 --> 00:47:59.440
the castle yeah but viewing viewing the children

00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:01.360
with hate though so if anything that's the opposite

00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:03.699
of sex offense yeah it's more abuse we were like

00:48:03.699 --> 00:48:06.179
leering with like you get off the castle because

00:48:06.179 --> 00:48:08.300
we didn't want to get on there anyway i digest

00:48:08.300 --> 00:48:10.940
you were raging against the machine But like,

00:48:10.980 --> 00:48:12.920
if they released a kid's book. Yeah, exactly.

00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:16.079
Yeah. Eventually, my colleague gets on the mic

00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:18.199
because they had a PA assistant. The whole thing

00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:20.320
was insane. Sure. And she reiterated because

00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.199
she'd seen us and she was like, look, the Bounce

00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:24.179
Castle's for everyone. It's not age restricted.

00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:27.139
Right. So like, at that point, that's the most

00:48:27.139 --> 00:48:29.579
opportune moment. Like, everyone's just heard

00:48:29.579 --> 00:48:32.920
that. Yeah. So me and my colleagues, we just

00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:35.139
got on it. We rushed it. Yeah, of course. With

00:48:35.139 --> 00:48:38.269
such joy. that a few of us kind of bounced on

00:48:38.269 --> 00:48:40.750
and took flight. On the way, I may or may not

00:48:40.750 --> 00:48:45.050
have spin kicked, spun cuck, spin cacked. Spun

00:48:45.050 --> 00:48:48.329
kicked? Spun kicked a child. Spin kicked. Yeah,

00:48:48.369 --> 00:48:50.469
spin kicked a child, but like right in the spine.

00:48:50.690 --> 00:48:52.050
Well, their spines are tiny and kids are made

00:48:52.050 --> 00:48:54.130
of rubber and magic. They're bendy, right? So

00:48:54.130 --> 00:48:57.190
this is what we thought. I felt bad, but we all,

00:48:57.369 --> 00:48:59.670
because we all went on at the same time, we bounced

00:48:59.670 --> 00:49:01.590
and then we forgot that we would still have forward

00:49:01.590 --> 00:49:04.719
momentum. So we like hit the side wall. Like

00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:08.099
geese painting a fucking windshield of a plane.

00:49:08.300 --> 00:49:11.059
Yeah. And then so the castle, which has got a

00:49:11.059 --> 00:49:14.460
roof, bends. Okay. The attached roof then pulls

00:49:14.460 --> 00:49:17.659
across. And what had once been like an inviting

00:49:17.659 --> 00:49:21.000
drawbridge portcullis situation pulls itself

00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:25.840
into like a... Like a horrifying horizontal galvanized

00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:28.880
rubber vulva. Amazing. Which just like winks

00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:31.880
closed like a Cronenberg -esque birth in reverse.

00:49:32.219 --> 00:49:34.480
Sure. So now like there's no light because the

00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.099
mouth is closed. What a kid party. Leaving like...

00:49:37.369 --> 00:49:41.289
Four chefs. Sure. And like 10, about 10, like

00:49:41.289 --> 00:49:43.469
young, far too young for something like this

00:49:43.469 --> 00:49:46.010
to have happened to them. Right. Like stuck inside

00:49:46.010 --> 00:49:50.130
an anaerobic PVC womb that's just devoid of light.

00:49:50.289 --> 00:49:53.570
Jesus Christ. The screaming, Ben, was so close.

00:49:53.829 --> 00:49:57.389
It was, it was no reverb, right? It's how I imagine

00:49:57.389 --> 00:50:00.590
limbo. It's just darkness and the screams of

00:50:00.590 --> 00:50:04.309
the unbaptized young. Just dead pan sound with

00:50:04.309 --> 00:50:08.369
no echo whatsoever. yeah right that's horrendous

00:50:08.369 --> 00:50:11.090
and then finally we managed to like get ourselves

00:50:11.090 --> 00:50:13.570
off the wall it springs back to shape and then

00:50:13.570 --> 00:50:15.570
we just left yeah we just had to leave happy

00:50:15.570 --> 00:50:20.909
birthday here's some trauma bye that's amazing

00:50:20.909 --> 00:50:23.269
that was when I was a bouncer and I did a spin

00:50:23.269 --> 00:50:26.130
kick yeah that's your that's your roadhouse story

00:50:26.130 --> 00:50:28.670
I've been sat on that for so long and I'm like

00:50:29.210 --> 00:50:31.670
bouncy castles are not in enough films they're

00:50:31.670 --> 00:50:34.489
not right okay well i'm glad we got to hear this

00:50:34.489 --> 00:50:36.829
now that's that thank you yeah this makes me

00:50:36.829 --> 00:50:39.489
i feel i feel clean i feel good i feel it's like

00:50:39.489 --> 00:50:41.630
a confession all right you know well i'm happy

00:50:41.630 --> 00:50:43.929
with this man i'm i'm feeling i'm feeling pretty

00:50:43.929 --> 00:50:45.670
good about it and i'm also glad that i've sort

00:50:45.670 --> 00:50:48.510
of guilt tripped you into you know verbally 100

00:50:48.510 --> 00:50:51.630
true agreeing for it to be 100 truth 100 true

00:50:51.630 --> 00:50:53.750
can't wait to see what johnny castle gets up

00:50:53.750 --> 00:50:56.349
to in point break james dalton johnny castle's

00:50:56.349 --> 00:50:58.539
dead now Johnny Castle's dead. He's left in behind.

00:50:58.659 --> 00:51:01.400
Exactly. Don't dead name Dalton. Don't dead name

00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:04.800
Dalton. That's a t -shirt. Oh, speaking of t

00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:07.099
-shirts. Nobody dead names Dalton. There you

00:51:07.099 --> 00:51:10.840
go. Yes. I've got a new idea for some Patreon

00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:13.760
merch based on this film. We got the t -shirt

00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:17.440
up. Lovely. We do. I've got another idea. So

00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:21.300
there's a scene in this film where a thug enters

00:51:21.300 --> 00:51:25.679
the Double Deuce. Yes. With a knife shoe. With

00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:28.139
a knife shoe, yeah. Yeah, he's got like a shoe

00:51:28.139 --> 00:51:30.000
where he kicks the heel and a little knife comes

00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:34.699
out. Rob, you said knife shoe. There's no sort

00:51:34.699 --> 00:51:37.139
of mysterious contraption where people are like,

00:51:37.179 --> 00:51:40.639
well, I wonder what a knife shoe could be. Uncomfortable

00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:46.880
footwear. But his doctor bird, his horse doctor

00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:50.989
has just arrived. Dr. Elizabeth Clay. Dr. Elizabeth

00:51:50.989 --> 00:51:53.889
Clay just won the Grand National. Stop calling

00:51:53.889 --> 00:51:58.250
her horse. It's so upsetting. Okay. She does

00:51:58.250 --> 00:52:00.030
have a long face. I did keep thinking the film

00:52:00.030 --> 00:52:03.909
would switch aspect ratio. But anyway, she arrives

00:52:03.909 --> 00:52:06.289
and then seconds later they arrive and they're

00:52:06.289 --> 00:52:08.190
like, we're going to beat you up. And he dispatches

00:52:08.190 --> 00:52:11.570
them so easily that I can only think about 20

00:52:11.570 --> 00:52:14.369
minutes later he slips them a 50 and is like,

00:52:14.389 --> 00:52:17.599
cheers for doing me a solid. Okay. So I think

00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:20.699
as a Patreon, maybe for the Absolute Legends

00:52:20.699 --> 00:52:25.139
or maybe as a sale, I'm willing to attack the

00:52:25.139 --> 00:52:28.400
purchaser with a knife shoe in front of their

00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:31.820
medically trained crush. Ooh. And let them win.

00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:36.000
Okay. And I'll do like a 1930s gangster accent.

00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:39.019
I'll do all sorts. Look here, see? Yeah. Give

00:52:39.019 --> 00:52:40.940
me your money and your wallet. Honestly, mate.

00:52:41.059 --> 00:52:44.260
And then they can completely flatten me. It doesn't

00:52:44.260 --> 00:52:46.380
matter what your level of fitness is. Yeah. I

00:52:46.380 --> 00:52:48.599
will lose. I will make it look convincing. I'm

00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:51.659
very good at losing fights. Yeah, but also very

00:52:51.659 --> 00:52:53.960
good at making knife shoes, apparently. Right,

00:52:54.019 --> 00:52:56.199
mate. I'm a chef. Do you know what I mean? Fair.

00:52:56.300 --> 00:52:57.860
You know what I mean? I've got a new job now.

00:52:57.900 --> 00:53:00.179
I don't need the knife. I can put it in a shoe.

00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:02.820
Just out of curiosity, dear listeners, if anyone

00:53:02.820 --> 00:53:05.280
out there is trying to bang a nurse or doctor.

00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:10.480
Or a horse. Or a horse. Email us and just let

00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:13.940
us know whether beating a man with a knife shoe

00:53:13.940 --> 00:53:19.019
would help. I'm desperate to know. Two blokes

00:53:19.019 --> 00:53:21.539
in a field having a fight in front of a bewildered

00:53:21.539 --> 00:53:26.019
horse. It's got no clue why this is happening.

00:53:26.300 --> 00:53:28.840
It doesn't speak English. Yeah, but also I think

00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:31.809
a horse would understand a knife. Oh, maybe.

00:53:31.989 --> 00:53:35.469
Dear listener, if you are a vet or a vet nurse,

00:53:35.750 --> 00:53:38.690
email us and let us know. Do horses know what

00:53:38.690 --> 00:53:41.929
knives are? And if not, could you ask one? Thank

00:53:41.929 --> 00:53:45.769
you in advance. I'm going to wrap up this theory

00:53:45.769 --> 00:53:48.969
where we are right now. Please do. Johnny Castle

00:53:48.969 --> 00:53:51.730
has become James Dalton. He's progressed into

00:53:51.730 --> 00:53:54.699
philosophy. He's shed his dancing past. He's

00:53:54.699 --> 00:53:57.380
now focused on spirituality, philosophy. He's

00:53:57.380 --> 00:53:59.679
still into his Tai Chi because he's very choreographed.

00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:03.199
He's very flexible. He's very gorgeous. Delicious

00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:07.360
Swayze. Yes, please. Swayze eggs. And now what

00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:08.739
we're going to do, dear listener, is we're going

00:54:08.739 --> 00:54:12.460
to check back in with our dearest James Dalton.

00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:14.280
I'm going to start calling him Johnny Dalton.

00:54:14.340 --> 00:54:15.880
I'm going to blend them together. You know what

00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:18.079
I mean? Yeah. Johnny Dalton. Donnie dancing.

00:54:18.099 --> 00:54:21.449
And we're going to keep up. With our Johnny Dalton.

00:54:21.590 --> 00:54:24.030
In next week's episode, which is going to be

00:54:24.030 --> 00:54:27.110
on Point Break, we're going to check in when

00:54:27.110 --> 00:54:32.510
Johnny Dalton is evolved further into Bodhi.

00:54:33.389 --> 00:54:35.369
There's a few circumstantial bits of evidence

00:54:35.369 --> 00:54:37.730
in Point Break, which sort of, I don't know whether

00:54:37.730 --> 00:54:39.570
they're like Swayze Easter eggs or like direct

00:54:39.570 --> 00:54:43.449
things, but whatever it is, it's fun universe

00:54:43.449 --> 00:54:46.469
building. No, it's 100 % true, Ben. We've decided

00:54:46.469 --> 00:54:48.690
to do that this episode. It's reality. That's

00:54:48.690 --> 00:54:51.389
it. It's just popcorn movies being nothing but

00:54:51.389 --> 00:54:55.590
popcorn movies and also treatment for childhood

00:54:55.590 --> 00:55:00.869
trauma. Incredible. Or just before we wrap the

00:55:00.869 --> 00:55:02.750
show up, if you enjoyed this episode and you

00:55:02.750 --> 00:55:04.989
want to support the show, you can leave us a

00:55:04.989 --> 00:55:07.349
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00:55:07.349 --> 00:55:09.409
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00:55:09.409 --> 00:55:12.150
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00:55:12.150 --> 00:55:14.210
you've got evidence for or against, we want to

00:55:14.210 --> 00:55:16.809
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00:55:17.420 --> 00:55:20.039
Let us know. We'll fight you in the show where

00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:22.619
you can't fight back. We'll just read your messages

00:55:22.619 --> 00:55:25.059
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00:55:25.059 --> 00:55:31.940
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00:55:31.940 --> 00:55:34.059
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00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.559
Guys, we appreciate each and every one of you

00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:39.400
so much and I cannot stress this enough because

00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:42.380
we're hitting 100 ,000 downloads. We've sort

00:55:42.380 --> 00:55:44.179
of mentioned it earlier and moved on from it.

00:55:45.170 --> 00:55:47.610
thank you sincerely from the bottom of our hearts

00:55:47.610 --> 00:55:51.409
because that is insane to think that two rambling

00:55:51.409 --> 00:55:56.449
knobheads are worthy of 100 ,000 downloads. It

00:55:56.449 --> 00:55:59.050
makes no sense to me. But honestly, it's probably

00:55:59.050 --> 00:56:01.449
the proudest achievement that I've got to date

00:56:01.449 --> 00:56:03.670
and I've got to do it with you, my best mate.

00:56:03.829 --> 00:56:06.130
Oh, babe, same. And it's literally, it's, yeah,

00:56:06.289 --> 00:56:09.389
it's fucking incredible. Thank you so much. Seriously.

00:56:11.329 --> 00:56:12.889
Next week, we're going to be doing Point Break.

00:56:13.230 --> 00:56:15.530
Go and watch the movie now. Because it's worth

00:56:15.530 --> 00:56:18.190
it. It's incredible. Get it in your eyeballs.

00:56:18.489 --> 00:56:20.090
It's fantastic. Fire your gun up in the air and

00:56:20.090 --> 00:56:22.909
go, ah. Keanu Reeves on a surfboard. Get it in

00:56:22.909 --> 00:56:27.510
you. He peels the skin off chicken. It's so weird.

00:56:27.769 --> 00:56:31.829
It's weird. It's got Nick Nolte in it before

00:56:31.829 --> 00:56:34.250
he cared so much about buttered sausage. What?

00:56:34.409 --> 00:56:37.590
That's Gary Busey. Oh, Gary Busey. They are quite

00:56:37.590 --> 00:56:41.500
interchangeable. Nick Nolte and Gary Busey are

00:56:41.500 --> 00:56:44.579
quite interchangeable. I get them confused all

00:56:44.579 --> 00:56:49.480
the time. Okay. This is a weird way to end. Guys,

00:56:49.539 --> 00:56:52.599
thank you so much for hanging out. Been an absolute

00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:54.679
pleasure. We love and appreciate all of you.

00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:56.179
We'll see you next week. We really, really do.

00:56:56.340 --> 00:56:59.039
And to thank you for spending an hour of your

00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:00.360
week with us, especially at the start of the

00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:01.800
week. We know a lot of you listen on a Monday.

00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:05.119
Ben is going to wrap up this week's episode.

00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:07.579
The thoughts, themes and feelings of this film.

00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:11.159
into a Monday motivational pep talk. Rating.

00:57:11.420 --> 00:57:13.380
What are we rating the film? Fat 10? Oh yeah,

00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:17.380
rated. Obviously fat 10. Eh, it's a 7. F*** off.

00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:21.320
While I just tell you to consume. Listen, right,

00:57:21.420 --> 00:57:23.539
if there's one lesson that we can take from Roadhouse,

00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:27.940
it's that throat ripping is an effective way

00:57:27.940 --> 00:57:33.039
to get laid. Alright, like this. Dalton has throat

00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:36.519
ripped two men and gotten away with both of them.

00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:40.079
The sheriff in that town witnessed, arrived at

00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:42.659
a fresh murder scene. There was a body in the

00:57:42.659 --> 00:57:46.179
lake, no more than a hundred meters away of Jimmy

00:57:46.179 --> 00:57:49.579
Reno. All right. And Jimmy Reno was missing his

00:57:49.579 --> 00:57:53.719
throat. Dalton then swims in Jimmy Reno's grave

00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:57.579
with a naked horse girl, bangs her. I've not

00:57:57.579 --> 00:57:59.900
considered that. They're swimming in a crime

00:57:59.900 --> 00:58:01.059
scene. They're swimming in a grave.