INTRO
Hello everyone and welcome to the Every Movie Ever Podcast.
My name is Ben Groves.
And my name is Rob Macfarlane.
Welcome to the show, a movie podcast where we ask the important questions like,
blink twice.
Yeah.
Why?
Is there, wait, am I in danger?
Ben, Ben blink twice if I'm in danger.
This is the censored version of the show.
Swear's are going to be bleeped out, but fear not dear listeners.
As always, the full uncensored version is available early over on our Patreon for as
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And the link to that is below, so enjoy.
Enjoy.
Fuck.
How you doing today bud?
I'm not great.
I'm really not great, but it's fine.
We're here.
We're doing it.
I'm excited to talk about this movie.
Good.
I didn't expect this movie.
Okay.
It was one that you just kind of threw at me and I was like, oh, I'd seen a poster.
Yeah.
That's as much research as I'd done about this movie before going in.
And it was the perfect way to watch it.
It was the perfect way to watch it.
It is, isn't it?
How about you, man?
I hope you're, are you good?
I'm doing good, man.
I'm doing good.
I'm sorry you're not doing good.
Upset me a little.
I hope there's something I can do to help you out.
Like, I don't know.
I've got a frog.
Just saying.
Nah, I'm all right without a frog.
You sure?
You don't want that frog in you?
I don't know.
All right.
Suit yourself.
I'm good, man.
I'm tired, but I'm good.
Doing gym a lot.
Nice.
Regularly.
The Monster Hunter Wilds beta just came out.
So nice.
Yeah.
That's a dangerous one because I'm wildly addicted to Monster Hunter World.
So new one.
Deadly.
Really glad to hear that, man.
I genuinely, genuinely very much am.
What are we doing today?
Today, buddy.
We're doing Blink Twice.
The directorial debut.
And the person who almost stole the Batman's heart.
Zoe Kravitz.
What a debut it is.
I am both impressed by that writing of a very concise and beautiful intro to what we're
doing and also annoyed that you stole a fact I was going to use later.
Sorry, babe.
But let's answer some hard questions.
Like does snake venom really cure Alzheimer's?
And we're not just letting enough people fight snakes anymore?
It's a deep question, buddy.
Can a really good perfume smell your troubles away?
According to teenagers, Lynx Africa definitely can.
I have Lynx Africa behind me.
Because you're not a man.
You're a boy.
And most importantly, does this film make you angry?
Of course it does.
The subject matter is incredibly anger inducing.
And if it doesn't make you angry, please don't listen to our show anymore.
No, it's not for you.
It's not for you.
But my main point from this is that anger justified and is it coming from the right
direction?
You know what I mean?
I can't word that question properly, but I'm going to circle that around to me.
There's a point there.
Circle that around.
Pointing in the right direction would have been better.
Oh, there you go.
That's the one.
There it is.
Now I've saved you some time this week, Ben.
It was my turn to save you some time by writing the synopsis of the film, the full breakdown
of the film.
For new listeners, this is where we just take a minute or two to just tell you what's going
on in this film all the way up to the end.
So you know what the hell we're talking about later on.
But we kind of take turns, you know, saving each other time.
Just making it easy.
Nice little gesture.
Nothing controversial about it.
Just a nice little gesture.
Ben, for the benefit of the people who haven't seen this and aren't planning to or have and
want a little refresher, can you break down Blink Twice for us?
Let me get into it, bud.
Let me get into it.
Blink Twice tells the story of Frieda, who, along with her friend Jess, attends an exclusive
event, first working the event and then swapping into cute dresses and impractical shoes to
sneak in as guests.
That is such facts.
They encounter Frieda's dream man, a disgraced CEO Slater King, played by Channing Tatum.
Let's not lie, he's everyone's dream man.
Slater invites Frieda and Jess to join his large entourage and spend time on his private
island getaway.
Of course she goes, because it's Channing Tatum.
I Channing date him.
There we go.
That was all right.
That was that was quite slick.
See, you just you're really feeding the energy that I put it.
Yeah, I'm happy with it.
That was good.
Let's go to the island.
Frieda is swept up in the delightful paradise and party atmosphere.
There's rare flowers, beautiful dinners and a blossoming romance with Slater, only dampened
by the slight infestation of snakes and the complete disappearance of her mate Jess.
I love that snakes came first there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's exactly how it's represented in the film.
Love it.
It's not my mate Jess has gone missing on a plane, Ben.
All right.
Yeah, no, to be fair.
Yeah.
I've got priorities.
I got you.
But surely you can trust Channing Tatum, right?
I'd let him use me as a table to make love to his wife who directed this movie.
Is he married to Zoe Kravitz?
Babe, I've got the perfect role for you.
What is it?
Don't worry about that.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I've been fooled.
Go on.
I thought they were married.
They're not.
They were.
They they announced they were engaged in 2023.
But then they split up.
OK, I have to hurriedly rewrite some jokes later.
That's fine.
They're not married.
They were.
They were going to.
But they didn't.
Continue with the story of blink twice, please, Ben.
Yeah, I got you.
I got you.
She uncovers that Slater has been processing the rare flowers to drug female guests with
a memory erasing compound, enabling them to commit assaults without leaving any evidence.
Frieda allies with another guest, Sarah, to use snake venom to counteract the effects of the flower.
Convenient.
Regaining their memories and kicking off a rebellion against their captors, a violent
confrontation ensues, resulting in the deaths of Slater's accomplices.
Frieda spares Slater, but manipulates him into administering Desideria, which is the
memory compound.
Yeah, the perfume, the memory loss drug, causing his memory to fade and manipulates him further
into naming her the CEO of his billion dollar tech company.
I mean, if he's not going to remember what would be the harm in slowly dragging the tip
of myself across his beautiful pink lips, feeling his breath wash gentle waves of warmth
down the length of me.
Now, first thing I'm going to say is I know you intended that to be embarrassing, but
not only is that a wild compliment to know that you think that I have length, that's
the cutest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.
Button cut Ben over here.
You know what I mean?
Nice, nice, nice.
You know what I mean?
It'd be warm ripples on my lower belly.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There you go.
Shrinking belly now though, you're at the gym.
I'm at the gym?
I've lost, well, I haven't, I've gained like a stone and a half.
Yeah, but it's all muscle, mate, it's all muscle.
So I like, I think we could do like a little series of, I'd like to call it like so hot
right now, we'll workshop a name about stuff that seems to be a contemporary trend.
And I think Blink Twice really leans into a guy who you wouldn't expect to be in that
role being in that role.
Ooh.
Now, I have to admit, it makes more sense now I realised that she's written a part and
cast her ex partner.
That's troubling to be sure.
That's troubling for sure.
Oh mate, we can still be friends.
Don't worry about it.
Yeah, yeah, don't worry.
I've got a part for you Channing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just need to make it for you rewrites real quick.
But you were right.
She was Catwoman.
She played Catwoman twice.
First time was in Lego Batman, the one that we didn't cover.
Sick.
That's what we want.
Covered all the other ones though.
Yeah, that's what we want.
Including The Batman where she was the Catwoman, I assume.
Yeah, the woman cat.
Fantastic film.
Right.
So, you said you went into this blind, you did zero research, you saw a poster, that
was your research into it.
What was your reaction?
Because I know for a fact that I tried to undersell this film to you.
Yeah, you did.
You were like, it's fine.
Yeah, I've got a horrible habit of being like, watch this, it's life changing.
I don't want to big up too much, but you will be changed.
And it's about the most mid 80s movie that you've ever seen.
I was expecting the oversell, right?
Yeah.
So I was like, Ben, we're finally done with Fincher, what do you want to bring?
And you undersold, which was, don't really know, mate.
I mean, blink twice is fine.
It's not really much going on.
Aggressively mid.
We could do that.
And I'm like, what is it interesting?
You're like, that's not really that much to talk about, to be honest.
And I'm like, why is he, why is he, it's just, he suggested a mid film, which there's not
much to talk about.
So I was really angry at you for a couple of days and then I watched the film.
And how did it work out for you?
Give me your initial reaction.
It's a great film.
Right.
It's a better film immediately after finishing it than it is in the following days.
We've been talking about a lot of films recently on our discord server.
You should join.
It's brilliant.
We chat about films there all the time about films on there, which sort of take a few days
to settle in and you kind of finish them and you go, oh, I hated that.
And then in the following days you're like, actually, this is kind of the opposite.
I finished it and I was like, this is brilliant.
And in the days following, I was sort of reminded of other films that came out maybe two or
three years before this that I was like, oh yeah, it's kind of taken the shine off this
a little.
Yeah.
But it's really smartly written.
It's really tightly written.
It is the pacing, the tightness of the writing, the foreshadowing, all the things that go
into an enjoyable A to B to C are really, really strong.
Incredible.
Like it's got good bones, great bones.
I went into this blind as well.
I'd heard it mentioned in sort of like the echelons before it was released.
And I was like, that does not sound like my film.
No attention to it whatsoever.
And I've actually got the guys over at Control Alt Critique to thanks for this.
So Bailey turned around and was like, have you seen it yet?
And I was like, nah.
I trust this film shows quite well because we're into the same sort of shitty B movies,
but we've also got these like weird little nuggets.
Anyway, about two months passed and I got around to watching it.
By the end of it, I was like, I'm furious for a multitude of reasons.
I'm furious.
I'm furious that A, I waited this long to watch this, that B, I don't feel like I saw
enough of the market into know much about this film before I'd seen it.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Like it wasn't plastered everywhere.
There wasn't trailers on in front of every movie at the cinema.
No.
It's available on Prime for free.
That always fills me with weird energy.
You know, when a new film is free on Prime, I'm like, cool, cool.
Is this cash out?
But I feel like they're in a dangerous position when trying to launch new directors with original
franchises or original ideas now though, because they can't spend the kind of money that they
would normally on something that's an adaptation of a really popular graphic novel or something
that's a director like Christopher Nolan.
They've just got to go, it's free.
Please watch it.
Yeah.
Please watch it.
There's Channing Tatum in it.
He's lovely.
Hayley Joel Ottman's in it.
He's lovely.
If we all love this, we might do a sequel and then we'll promote that and we'll make
money on that.
Look at Smile.
Smile was so quick to be free.
They're like, just get it watched and then we'll make money on the sequel.
And they did.
They played that.
They played their hands so well with that franchise.
Yeah, they really did.
So what I'm going to say about this film is it made me angry for a multitude of reasons
on my first watch through.
And I was like, I'm going to get into it later because it's my main takeaway from this film.
Sure.
It made me upset that A, this is still a thing that we need to talk about as a society.
I would argue, yeah, okay.
I don't think it's ever going to go away.
The reason I'm going, yeah, is because it, you're right, it's never going to go away.
Yeah.
And I feel like sometimes if you keep over explaining the early points, you don't get
into the nuance.
And I think, you're right.
I think this film is very much there going, sexual assault is bad.
It's bad.
Very on the nose.
You shouldn't do it.
Very on the nose.
And I feel like, or at least I would hope that people are ready for the and then or
therefore of that argument, which this doesn't provide.
It feels like a very first step.
Yes.
And we're not, cinematically, we are not in a first step territory for this subject matter.
Exactly.
And it's, it, that kind of got me, it got me pumped up because I was just sort of like,
yeah, these guys, you know what I mean?
They got exactly what they deserve.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's super cathartic.
Yeah, it is a cathartic release, but then like a couple of days pass and I'm like, right,
I have issues with freedom because I feel like it was a path that was chosen, but is
not necessarily the ending that I wanted.
I can tell that for you.
It's an ending that I enjoyed.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Good.
I loved the ending.
It's just not what I needed.
I think.
Yeah.
It's a sort of serum of forgetting his potion of forgetfulness on him and then manipulates
him to sort out all of her, you know, sort of wants and desires.
She wants to be a strong independent woman who's financially secure.
So she essentially steals his identity from him.
Yeah.
It's super cathartic in the immediate, in the very immediate, but sort of philosophically
for what it means for the character and therefore the point that the film is making.
You see, yeah, that's where I'm at.
It goes from being like sexual assault is really bad to being like sexual assault is
really bad.
And if someone does it to you, you've got carte blanche to do whatever you want and
be as bad as them.
Yeah.
Oh, is that what we're saying though?
Blink twice.
If you can't beat them, join them.
Right.
And I don't think that's what we are saying.
I think I can bring you around as to why the ending is that way.
But again, we'll do it later.
Okay.
Because there's a lot to love in this film before the ending.
Dude, the thing that I love about this film is A, the rewatchability is through the roof.
I adore it when I watch a film and I'm like, okay, that's my pleasure watch done.
That's my enjoyment, my entertainment watch done.
Now I need to watch it to study.
And then when I start watching it, like critically watching it, you pick up on so much stuff
that is insane.
Yeah.
Insane.
And there's one aspect to this film.
There's many aspects of this film that make it great.
But for me personally, the symbolism and the colour work from various characters and various
outfits and various moments in the film, they're all done in such a specific way that it is
impossible to not be picking your jaw up off the floor by the end of the film because it
is gorgeous.
A hundred percent.
And it's part of that tight writing that I mentioned earlier that I really like.
Exactly.
I'm going to very quickly mention an observation I wrote in my notes.
Because I'm worried you might have it in yours and I want the shine.
Yeah, you take this one.
Which is that it's the Genesis myth in reverse.
Because in Genesis, Eve takes the fruit from the tree.
Fruit from the tree gives you knowledge and the snake ruins everything.
In this one, it's the reverse.
The fruit from the tree keeps you ignorant to all the things that are happening to you.
And it's the snake that provides the knowledge.
Incredible.
And given that the book of Genesis is probably the first misogynist anthem.
Oh yeah.
It's a thousand percent.
Right.
It's a nice reversal of that dynamic.
But it's one of the many things in this film that's a lovely observed bit of writing that
isn't sort of put front and centre.
It's just set dressing in the background.
You go, oh, that's really nice.
That's really tidy.
But they're not going, look how clever we are.
It's just part of the salad.
Lovely.
The menu being about the seven deadly sins.
That sort of sets in after a few days and you're like, oh, my giddy arse.
That has chapped me right up.
OK, fantastic.
Right.
It's a nice like lemon pickled onion with like dressed dill.
You wouldn't sit down to a bowl of it, but in a salad, just as part of the ingredients,
beautiful.
And I'd say that, Ben, because you adore chef references.
You love it when I bring films down to food.
I do.
It's your favourite thing.
No, it's not.
I love food.
I've just come from a restaurant right now.
I'm annoyed that you did it in that specific way because I just had some chicken that looked
like it had been shown a lemon at some point.
Nice described as lemon chicken.
And I'm like, OK, cool.
Dough from our potatoes.
Four tiny slivers.
Fuming.
Sorry.
Just quickly on the chicken point.
Hello, Patreon.
A little too spicy to carry on.
And that is it.
The soul of Patreon.
Which made me feel better about my restaurant trip, to be honest with you.
That was good.
I like speaking of which, bye bye, Patreon.
Love you.
Yeah, man.
Chicken.
Like if you're going to do lemon chicken, you need you need lemon on that chicken.
You know, lemon.
Don't just show it a lemon.
I feel like this film, it puts lemon on the chicken.
It is a lemon chicken.
There are some scenes in this chicken of a film where I am making a lemon face going.
Oh, yeah, which is weird because it's a beautiful film.
Yeah.
I mean, my first watch through the first thing I noticed was the casting choices.
Yeah.
Casting choices were incredible.
I mean, it was a genius way to play this film.
You've essentially got American heartthrobs through the ages just thrown into the most
heinous roles that they're ever going to play.
And it's insane.
You've got Christian Slater, who was a heartthrob from like the late 80s, early 90s.
He was loving life.
True romance.
You know what I mean?
That guy would literally die for his woman.
And then in this one, you know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
He kind of did.
But you know.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
You got Gina.
Context is the thing.
I mean, Gina Davis was an early crush of mine.
Earth girls are easy.
Earth girls are easy?
It's too much.
That is too much.
Thelma and Louise?
Thelma and Louise, dude.
Come on.
The long kiss good night.
The fly.
Yeah.
Oh, dude.
Hold on.
So watching the fly as a kid ruined me because now I can't ever.
Food scenes ruined me.
They're the worst.
Right.
Because you always want to throw up on your lemon chicken before you eat it.
Made me feel physically ill.
Thank you.
Thank you for that.
But no, but that's that that kind of ruined me.
But then I couldn't stay away from it because Gina Davis and also Jeff Goldblum, you know
what I mean?
Like just before what combo just before the fly has started coming out of the shoulder
when he's like Uber, he's like Uber buff.
Yeah.
Isn't it?
He's like, yeah, I'm feeling it.
I've got the power of his one horse fly.
You know what I mean?
He's killing it.
Says that.
But you've also got like I said earlier, Haley Joel Osment, the kid from the sixth sense,
man.
Yeah.
He's like the sweetest dude ever.
He's like the lovable sidekick in Tusk.
The entourage surrounding Slater King, who is sort of his hangers on that, whether they're
people who are involved in the business or like his therapist or his chef or this kind
of thing.
There are a selection of people who their prior filmography has made them trustworthy.
Yes.
Nothing in Gina Davis's prior filmography makes you go.
This woman is danger.
Haley Joel Osment, you don't go.
This man is danger.
You know, you just go.
He sees dead people and he might be able to read your mind if he's in the boys for an
episode like that.
They're all safe hands and to cast them in this in this film where all of those people
who are safe hands are sort of proven to be so unsafe is genius.
It is.
It's so hot right now.
You're desperate to make that statement.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to be saying it repeatedly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We can do that.
But after the second, second and third watch throughs of this, but when I really got into
the critical watching, it's the colors that really hit me.
Oh, yeah.
Colors really hit me.
Right.
So I'm going to go through just a couple things that I picked up on the sort of that really
that really tickle my pickle, really spice my chicken.
You know what I mean?
So red, right?
The color of strength, passion, confidence, but also danger and anger.
Yeah.
So you've got Frieda, right?
So Frieda, she takes the red dress early on.
She gives Jess the blue dress.
Frieda takes both her and her friends jobs, leading Jess directly into the danger.
She didn't know the full extent of it, but she still was willing to take that risk as
confident.
Yeah.
But it's dangerous.
You know, I mean, there's a nice little balance of the red there.
All right.
Yeah.
All right.
Follow me down this rabbit hole.
Frieda is the red rabbit.
She is.
She's the warning sign by the snake wrangler early on.
Red rabbit.
It later turns out that her nail art was red rabbits before.
Red rabbits.
Yeah.
Which is a warning sign from the snake wrangler, but it's also a hint of the danger that Frieda
is capable of and the anger that she harbors due to her last foray on the island.
Ooh.
She's been here twice.
What?
What the hell?
Okay, so then we've got blue.
Innocence.
Right.
Trust.
Protection.
But also fragility and sadness.
So Jess wears the blue dress.
Everything that Jess.
Right.
She wears the blue dress.
She naively supports her friend whilst trusting her guidance.
Jess has a lighter, which is a huge focus in this film.
It is.
Yeah.
She keeps losing her lighter.
No one knows who has it, but someone always has it.
And it's kind of one of the early hints they have that they're missing time.
They're missing memories.
Yeah.
So this lighter becomes a talisman of caution.
Like this is happening.
Ooh, like yellow.
We're missing stuff.
So yellow being the colour of happiness, innocence, optimism, but also sickness, madness, caution.
Health and safety.
Biohazard.
Caution tape.
Bananas.
Police tape.
Some grapes.
You know what I mean?
Some grapes.
The crap grapes.
Yeah, don't eat them.
It's a warning.
So she's got this yellow lighter and it's a continuous talisman of shit.
Something has genuinely happened to my friend Jess, who owned this lighter.
Right?
So that's sort of like an ongoing thing before we really get to terms with what's happening.
Then you've got Stace, who's played by Gina Davis.
Love her.
Yes.
She wears a lot of purple.
She wears mixtures of colours.
So purple being like noble, luxury, mysterious, but also otherworldly and beyond nature.
And that's important.
Right?
I can't help but feel that you're about to start talking about my chakras and try and
sell me some rose quartz, but carry on.
No, no, no, no, no.
Your crystals are in the post, good sir.
I've sorted you right out.
Don't worry about it.
Okay.
So Stace wears a lot of purple and I take this as a woman working for the messed up
elites and willingly turning a blind eye to the absolute horrors she's submitting other
women to.
She's the Jelaine Maxwell.
Yeah, yeah.
The Jelaine Maxwell, which if you look at it from a normal perspective, it is beyond
human nature that someone would willingly do that and then choose to not remember it
for your own safety, I guess, your own peace of mind, but then continue to do the thing
that's horrible.
Right?
That's the insane stuff.
But she also wears a lot of red.
She also wears a lot of white.
Now white on the top.
She wears like a white top and red trousers for quite a lot of this film.
So the white, obviously projecting purity, innocence, peace, balance, hope, new beginnings,
but also in Eastern cultures, much like the custard chicken, represents death, isolation
and detachment.
So she's wearing white on top.
She's wearing red trousers.
So it's like, it's like the white on top is projecting to everyone else, pure, innocent,
peaceful, hopeful woman, as if to be sort of like, I can be your beacon of hope.
And then the red trousers underneath signifying the danger and the risk.
Okay.
It's just sort of like there.
This is a leap.
All right.
Just bear with me.
I'm with you.
Okay.
I'm going to bear with you, but I've got a question at the end.
Yeah.
I'm cooking here.
Let me go.
Right.
This is nonsense for continue.
Yeah.
It's pure nonsense, but I had loads of fun with this.
Just let me.
Right.
Okay.
So he focuses on wearing a lot of white and a lot of blue, right?
It's a bit guru-y.
It's a bit cult leader-y, but it's projecting this sort of like trustworthy, innocent persona.
But I feel like it's a facade for how fragile his own psyche is and how he's so far removed
from being a normal person.
He's like, he's completely detached himself from the human experience.
He is this island and its ways are now his normal, which is mental.
Yes.
Yeah.
I feel like what you've done is you've watched the film and then you've looked at some colours
and then you've said, because they wear these colours, it's like you've linked it back.
My question is your colour theory.
Did you give God a ring and go, God, mate, when you made red, what were you thinking,
like did you ask her?
No, no, no, no, no.
What I've done, buddy, is I've watched at least three National Geographic documentaries
on naturally occurring colours in animals and what they mean.
You know what I mean?
Oh wow.
Okay.
National Geographic, you know.
Not in prep for this.
Right.
That's just for fun.
That's a side hustle.
Okay.
You're going to start colourora.com.
What bug is this?
Okay.
Nice.
But then the thing that got me going with this, the red chair.
Yes.
The red chair does not fit that room at all.
For those that haven't seen the film, Slater King on his Jared Leto cult island, he's got
a living room and a consistently reoccurring plot point, which now Ben mentions it doesn't
really have any context and therefore must for some reason be important, which I'm sure
he's about to tell us.
What's a colour theory buddy?
Slater keeps walking in the room and talking about this red chair and just being like,
it's weird.
It's weird where it is.
We need to move it.
And he obsesses about the location and the placement of this red chair in the living
room on the Jared Leto cult island.
It's the lobby and his office.
Okay.
Where obviously like all the important stuff is all of the paperwork is if any officials
were to ever visit the island, it would be that room, right?
Those rooms.
I didn't clock it was a lobby.
I've never been in your house so I don't know what a lobby is.
You know, I have a hallway and a living room.
I had no frame of reference for a lobby.
This is because on my paradise island full of snakes and flowers, the lobbies are the
most important things.
Right.
Okay.
And I've also done the same as Slater in this.
See what I've done is I want people to trust that this is a good place.
Right.
So I painted my office and my lobby blue.
Ah, safe, vulnerable.
But there's always that one thing that's just in the back of my mind.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, but it doesn't quite fit in my trusting facade.
It doesn't fit in this, in this sort of like projection that I'm putting out towards the
world.
Yes.
And it's the red chair.
You know what I mean?
The red chair is like, where does this anger go?
How do I, how do I do this in a presentable way that doesn't make me an absolute monster?
The anger.
Does it go in this corner?
Will people think I'm a monster if it's in this corner?
What do I do with my anger?
Where do I put it?
Okay.
No, that, that I will, I will support.
Thank you.
I was wearing red trousers with white.
We were in super, super tenure.
I was building up to it.
I had to, I had to bring you down a couple pegs to build you right back up.
If I'd have gone in with a chair, you'd have been like, yeah, that's fine.
That seems to make sense.
But now, okay, fair.
Yeah, yeah.
You had to really lower my expectations.
Now I'm like, okay, he's not a man.
Exactly.
Brilliant.
There you go.
Zoe Kravitz herself said that she wanted it.
She said, it's a thriller, but I wanted it to be bright and beautiful.
Which it is.
So beautiful that it was almost depressive.
Yeah.
I was interested in a world that is seductive and vibrant and then turns into something
terrifying.
The sun, if you're in it too long, will burn you.
If you eat too much, you feel sick.
The thing you think you want can be the thing that destroys you.
Yeah.
She definitely sets, like the visuals of this film are really, really sumptuous, really,
really gorgeous.
I think the chair thing is fascinating.
I think the Slater character up until the, for the first two thirds of the movie.
Yeah.
And until we get to the contentious ending is brilliant because he's got this whole thing
where, you know, he's messed up in the past and he's had to step down as CEO due to a
sort of undisclosed and undiscussed prior cancelling socially and business-wise due
to prior behaviour.
We never really find out what that behaviour is.
We can make assumptions though.
We can make assumptions.
Yeah.
And then getting into the second half of the film, it's pretty clear what they were.
Oh yeah.
And this whole thing is, you know, he's, he's sorry.
He's got this island and he's taking it easy because he is trying to sort of work on himself.
He's in therapy and he keeps saying to the world, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
He's trying to be forgiven for what he's done.
And one of those other things, one of those nice bits of writing that sit in the background
of the salad and just don't get a spotlight shone on them is this forgive and forget dynamic
where essentially the forgetting serum that's made from these flowers and put in the perfume
is a thing that he arrives at when he comes to the conclusion that forgiveness just isn't
real.
People never will forgive him.
People don't.
And so the best, the next best thing is to make people forget.
Yeah.
Lovely bit of writing, really nicely observed, really nice for the antagonist to have a sort
of motivation that's pretty well drawn from the mountain of terrible apologies you get
from these canceled dudes.
You know, the Louis CK thing of like, I've apologized.
What more can I do?
Plenty Louis.
You can do plenty.
You've still got millions.
You could use that to fund all sorts, but no, you've said sorry.
So apparently that's meant to be enough.
And I think it's that thing of like, we say it often that the only sorry that counts has
changed behavior.
Yeah.
1000% actions over words all the all day, every day actions over words.
Channing Tatum does, does none of that in this.
It's it's words, words, words, words, words.
There is one brilliant scene, which was one take, which is where he loses his absolutely
loses his mind.
And he kind of makes the point that forgiveness is impossible because he talks about all the
things that he's done to her.
And he's like, well, look, what if I say, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
And he keeps saying, I'm sorry again and again, again, until he's like screaming it.
It was one take.
Yeah, it's incredible.
Did it.
It's first take.
He was like, right.
But Channing Tatum's point was like, if I do it a second time, it's not going to feel
authentic.
Like I'm going to, I have one and that's, then it's going to get weird after that.
So we should just get it the first time.
And they did.
Mint.
I think that whole aspect of him is, is really well defined.
It's just when we get into the conclusion where, you know, she spikes his vape juice
with the forget serum and then you think, great, he's going to burn to death in this
house.
Yeah.
But that's our heroines have clubbed together and escaped.
And then you get the twist at the end where she's kept him alive and he's using him.
Yeah.
She had the chance.
She could have chosen between saving the other woman who's been like her pezzy helping her
fight her way through this island or Slater.
And she chooses Slater because it's going to better her own life.
Yeah.
Leaves her mate to die.
Now I'm not sure what sort of time limit was on this burning building and why she couldn't
like drag Slater a bit out and then get the other one.
You know what I mean?
It's, you know, she might've been tired either or.
He's a heavy guy.
He's a heavy dude.
You know, he's big.
He is hench to be fair.
He's just a slab of muscle.
Gorgeous slab of muscle.
This is where my issues with this film come in.
So the forgetful juice is great.
There's a lot of great symbolism in that scene where the house is, where the lobby is burning
down, the office building is burning down.
The Polaroids from the year prior, because obviously Frieda's been there before.
She just doesn't remember it.
But all these Polaroids of all these women that have been there and been abused and some
haven't made it home, they're like little trophies for little memory keepsakes Slater.
And as he's smoking his vape and forgetting these memories, photos are burning.
Like one by one they're sort of burning through.
Just lovely peccadellos in there.
You're just like, oh, that's clever.
I didn't get that until my third watch through.
And I was like, this is, this might be genius.
This is, this is on the, this is tickling.
This is tickling genius writing.
And then immediately after that, immediately after this buddy, it, it hard cuts to like
a year later.
Yeah.
And it's the celebration party, the gala where Frieda and Jess were working a year ago.
But now Frieda has manipulated her way to Slater naming her CEO.
And she has, is now essentially doing what has been done to her forever.
Yeah.
Which is where this can't beat them, join them mentality comes in, which is great.
It's very cathartic sort of like, fuck yeah, man.
That's it.
Just, you know, yeah, they deserve it.
Yeah.
These guys are awful.
They deserve it.
Yeah.
But also it kind of ruins Frieda for me.
I'm like, I was so rooting for you to be the good guy to be the one who like gets it, sorts
it out, exposes everything, puts an end to it.
Full stop.
Holy.
But no, it's I, I've got a root here to be the one in power.
Yes.
To be the one with this sway and this wealth and this sort of commanding prowess over everyone
around me.
And that's the one thing that I was looking up to the one thing that I was chasing.
And I love the fact that it's done this.
It sort of cheapens it in a way.
It cheapens it massively, but in the same sense, right?
We all crave it.
We all crave money, wealth, power.
It's just, it's human.
It's built into human DNA to be like top of the chain.
It's just, it's just the way it is.
You can say that you're not, and you can actively live your life as if you're not, but it is,
you know what I mean?
Deep down, there's a little nugget of it in there somewhere, little nugget of it.
But I think, I think what you've mentioned there is exactly why it goes.
Well, there's two reasons for me that it goes this way.
So Zoe Kravitz says about the ending, I'm a true lover of the communal movie going experience.
And I love when you leave and you have these conversations, but you also leave feeling
fulfilled and you had a good time.
Yeah.
So it's about finding a balance where we can have these real conversations about real things
and still not feel manipulated or icky or like you had to close your eyes or look away.
I think at that point in the runtime, you need to tie things up and now you've got two
options.
You can tie it up, just neat in a bow and go, he died in the fire.
And I think that's the true narrative choice that would, that would cheapen it because
in that case it would just become a film going, don't do sexual assault.
Don't, don't, don't sexual assault people.
It's bad.
And this is 2024.
And I mean, we had the assistant and bombshell in 2019 promising young woman was 2020 four
years before this.
Incredible film.
Women Talking into R was 2020 four years before this film.
Fresh, which is also horror bait and switch.
He's a nice guy.
Actually no, he's not.
It was two years before this.
And I feel like with where this film came out chronologically, we're a long way past
the Me Too movement now.
And if it had ended in the simpler way that I think we were all expecting it to end, it
would have just been a men are bad, women are great and men do rape and women fight
back, which is a fun, enjoyable film that ultimately doesn't say anything that complex
or that useful or that necessary to kind of a social conversation.
My criticism of the villains sort of leads into this is that they're so cartoonishly
evil after the twist that they kind of cease to be a believable depiction of men with women,
right?
They become pure evil and it becomes, they become like cutouts of a thing.
And that kind of got me thinking.
I'm like, why, why do we go from a fully featured dude into just, I like sexual assault.
That's my thing.
That's what I do.
And why does the world?
And I realized, I don't think it's as gendered a film as it presents itself.
It's essentially about people taking advantage of other people to get the thing they want.
And Frieda throughout this film has been very clear about what she wants.
To be fair.
She is a very money driven, very materialistic person.
And I think it makes it a more interesting film, you know, when she joins the establishment
rather than rebelling against it.
And she sort of goes into this glitzy and glamorous world where abuse is kind of, you're
shielded from it through your wealth and your privilege.
It's less about men versus women.
It's more about the rich are able to get away with their stuff because they've got the shield
of wealth and privilege.
He's able to get away with getting what he wants non-consensually.
And once she manages to manipulate his wealth away from him, she's able to get what she
wants non-consensually.
Oh, you are exactly right.
That's a great way to look at it.
I'm not going to lie.
I didn't think Slater was going to burn to death.
I was kind of hoping that she would have pocketed enough evidence after saving him.
Bring him to justice.
To sort of bring him to justice.
That's where I wanted it to go.
I understand that that was a very sort of like fairy tale ending and everyone ended
amazing.
And now Frieda gets to, you know, start from scratch on her journey again.
Living in a shitty apartment where she's hiding money behind a mirror because for whatever
reason.
It's a great story.
It didn't end the way I expected it to.
The first time through, I didn't enjoy it.
The second and third time through, I really did just for different reasons.
The main problem that I have with this film more than anything is the fact that we still
have to talk about it in 2025.
I mean, even look at the Diddy stuff, man.
Like it is so prevalent everywhere we go and everywhere we look.
All these people that we look up to and all these like industries that we cherish.
It is literally rife.
Okay, but the anger that you're feeling there kind of implies that you feel like the problem
it's discussing is one that can be solved.
Like we can solve theft or we can solve murder.
We can as a society move past these things.
And that's not going to happen.
It's not on the cards.
I don't feel it was the mission statement of any of the sort of recent social movements.
I agree.
It's like saying, do you remember when we had the stop poverty campaign and Chris Martin
sold us a bunch of rubber bangles?
Sure.
What happened to all that money?
Because I had about six of them.
They're all in landfill still.
Every single one of them is still in landfill.
Yeah, sick.
Sick.
They're going to outlive us all.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, they are 100% up.
Amazing.
So, poverty will be ended when we have all burned up and it's an equal society of rubber
bangles that all exist in a landfill.
You raise a good point.
And what I think we should do is our next line of merch, we need to make those rubber
bands, but just say poison the earth.
Because all we've done is we've not ended poverty.
We're not done anything in particular.
We've just poisoned the earth.
Before we do our next line of merch, can we do our first line?
That would be.
We can.
We can indeed.
And what I think we should do is we'll do, I don't know, let's start off with the old
logo.
Just the old logo on a t-shirt and it'll be limited to 50.
Oh, Braggenrights.
And it'll be a Braggenrights t-shirt.
I was there from the beginning.
Remember this.
I know you don't.
You weren't there.
You're not cool enough, bro.
You're not cool enough.
You didn't even know they covered Kevin Smith.
Yeah.
Or what?
You think you've sent elves?
Yeah.
Right, buddy.
I think quite a few people scroll back.
They go chronological and elves will probably get more listens than say Jurassic Park.
Yeah.
Because Jurassic Park is like in the middle of the early years.
Yeah.
But also elves is peak cinema.
So where do you go from there?
Do you know how often I think about elves?
The film, not the race.
All the time, dude.
I was talking about it today.
It's weird.
It just comes up.
But yeah, all right.
We can do our first line of merch.
I think we drop it, let's say we drop it this week.
If we can, that'd be...
We'll put some out on socials.
We'll drop it this week.
We'll get a limited 50 run of t-shirts up and going.
Beautiful.
Bragging rights t-shirts.
Love it.
And then we move on to the bangles.
The bangles.
Yeah.
But back to your point, do we still need to talk about this?
We'll always need to talk about this.
Films like this will need to be released annually.
I agree.
To remind the new generation of viewers, here is some stuff you probably haven't thought
about.
Here is some catharsis for those of you that this has happened to.
That's a useful thing.
We had Irreversible when we were growing up and we were like, wow.
Base Moire.
Right, exactly.
Those were the films we watched and we were like, oh my God.
Did you see that film?
This is nowhere near that brutal or that savage, but I feel like the idea that do we still
need to talk about this?
I think it could be more complex.
I think it could be more nuanced.
There we go.
But maybe we're not the audience for that, for this film as a result.
This was my next point, right?
I feel like I am an audience for this film.
I'm just not the audience.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
We're C tier.
Exactly.
We're C tier audience members, which is great because we can still sit in, we can still
appreciate it.
We've still got a cathartic release.
We still cheer for the right people.
We still see some horrible stuff happen to horrible people, which is always lovely jubbly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I think when it comes to this fucking wealth and power, sort of just overlord in
over the like, I think what it is is watching a poor get done over by a posh.
It's not for me.
You know what I mean?
It just boils my piss.
It boils it raw.
Anyway, that was my main takeaway.
This film made me very angry.
It's a different reason than I expected and it changed slightly with every watch.
I'm sure when I watch it again, because I will, it's worth it.
It's incredible.
I'm sure I'll get angry for a slightly different reason.
Weirdly.
You know, that'll be great.
100%.
Weirdly, my main takeaway was quite different.
Okay.
Hit me with it.
I'd like to read you a note that I wrote about 15% of the way through this film.
Okay.
Because I scribble notes as I watch the film, just like things that strike me or things
that on my first watch I'm like, this is interesting or that's a nice shot or, and then once the
film's over, I can look at it and go, okay, what's the kind of the shape of my feelings
on this film?
Yeah.
And about 10% of the way in, I wrote, I would go to the island in a heartbeat.
I am realizing that if I lived the life I've lived so far, but as a woman, I would have
had the most horrible history of any woman who ever lived.
Because I've just skipped as a man, I have skipped around and just gone, sure I'll get
in the car.
Do you know how many strangers cars I've climbed in?
Same.
I went to a party once.
I met them at the club.
It was chasing status used to run a club night in East London.
Met some people at the club.
I didn't know most of their names.
I couldn't tell you a single one of their names now.
All I remember is we went back to one of their houses, got really drunk, got blackout drunk.
I don't remember most of the night.
I woke up on a leather sofa.
I used to dye my hair at the time, so my hair was bright blue.
Woke up on a white leather sofa and I lifted my head off the white leather of the sofa.
The leather was blue.
And then I looked at the table and there was a brick of what I could only assume was cocaine
and a sub machine gun.
I had no memory.
I didn't know where I was.
I didn't know whose house I was.
I just very quietly got my coat on, which I'd been using as a duvet.
And then just left and tried to not think about it again.
That's a funny story because I'm a man.
100%.
Dude, the amount of stuff, the amount of stupid, stupid, stupid stuff that we've done in our
past.
I mean, you've just described that party minus the machine gun and a brick of cocaine.
That's essentially half of the house parties that you invited me to.
To people I'd never met before, Rob.
I would rock up at these houses knowing you.
We would do one line of drugs and then you would disappear into the night like a lollipop
child into a field.
I would never see you again for about six weeks and I would randomly get a text.
You get home all right.
Five and a half weeks ago.
And that's how, admittedly, right, again, this is like a whole thing.
It's a privilege in a way that we can do that silly stuff and get away with it because of
the position that we were sort of like naturally just born into.
Which is outrageous to say out loud.
Unwantable.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
It is a ridiculous thing to say out loud.
Okay, I've got one final thing before we get into a game because I've got a blinder of
a game for you.
I'm going to test your knowledge to the hills.
After the game and after your point, I've got a bizarre comment corner.
It's a left field.
It's not even a comment, but you know, sometimes you bring odd stuff.
I'm into it, mate.
I've got some odd stuff.
So let me hear this.
Let me hear this.
Stop selling.
I'm sold.
Right.
The island.
Yes, the Jared Leto cult island.
Yeah, the Slater Jared Leto cult island.
For those that don't know, Jared Leto owns a private island on which he only allows cult
members onto and they are all exclusively young women.
Sorry, continue.
The island.
I don't think you need to explain that.
Jared Leto is a piece of shit.
Do you know what I mean?
Everyone knows it.
There might be somebody out there who doesn't know who's eyeing up an invite and we've just
saved them.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
He gets his private islands where, you know, luckily there's this flower that he can use
to make this memory loss drug that only exists on this island.
It's mad, that's a good coincidence.
But then unfortunately, the only thing that cures it is one of the yellow, yellow, pythons,
yellow being happiness, innocent optimism, sickness, madness, caution.
See yellow python, red flower.
What's color theory again, Rob?
Welcome back to the tour bus.
So these yellow pythons are the only things that cure the memory wipe drug.
Both of these things solely exist on this one island.
Yes.
100%.
What I find amazing is that the fact that he's hired a snake wrangler to harvest the
cure to his demon drug.
Yes.
And stores it in a cupboard immediately adjacent to his memory demon drug.
It's all very odd, convenient choices for a very wealthy, very smart man.
And it's almost like he's saying, I like the idea that I might get caught one day.
It's a hundred percent that.
It's a bit of a thrill.
It's a hundred percent there aren't that many secret cupboards and you've got two things
you need to keep secret.
Right.
And it's a hundred percent you keep the Narcanol next to the heroin.
I might over go.
Okay.
I might use the antidote to the thing that I might overdose on.
What dickhead is going to accidentally spray himself with a perfume that he's made specifically
to spike women?
It's what's going to be like, do you know what smells delicious?
No, it's what dickhead is going to go for a walk, found him, find himself surrounded
by those trees and then not remember his mom's name when he comes back for lunch.
Oh yeah.
Could you imagine?
I wonder what this smells like.
Where am I?
Exactly.
Right.
And secondly, the snake in the flower is actually really scientifically accurate.
It's a thing called coevolution.
And so there are certain trees that produce certain flowers for certain pollinators.
And so hummingbirds, their beaks develop, their bills, sorry, develop for this particular
flower that they feed upon.
There are certain flowers.
I think it's the Lotus, the one that grows in swamps.
Anyway, it was, it was evolved for a species of beetle that no longer exists.
So it's constantly waiting for its perfect pollinator that no longer lives on this planet.
Quite often in small isolated areas like Madagascar or...
That's desperately sad.
It's desperately sad.
It's one of those things I always, I always pull up when I want to depress myself.
That's first date talk that is.
Quite often.
But like figs...
There's a flower.
Right.
Figs and fig wasps, you know, they're like, like if you eat a fig, you're eating a dead
wasp because it climbs in, lays its eggs and then dies, can't get out again.
They are co-evolved and it happens all the time.
Is that true?
That's true.
Yeah.
Every fig you eat is a dead wasp.
I mean, it might be an urban legend, but I'm up until this point in my life, up until
this point in my life, I'll Google it now.
That is.
It might not be every fig.
I know there are a lot of figs that have dead wasps in.
Imagine the back of the package in a fig rolls when it's just sort of like, yeah, may contain
wasp.
They're pollinated by tiny wasps that are so small and well hidden that they go unnoticed.
Crawls into a fig through a narrow hole, loses her wings and becomes trapped.
So figs aren't vegan because they are literally full of wasps.
Yeah.
It doesn't matter to you anymore.
You had like 19 kilos of chicken today.
No, I didn't.
I paid 30 quid for literally less than a wing.
It was outrageous.
It was outrageous, mate.
I promise you.
I promise you it was outrageous.
What's this game?
I want to hear this game.
I got a game for you, Bud.
You ready for this?
Yeah.
Now I've scoured high and low searching for this.
You know what I mean?
Is it Channing Tatum rule 34?
Which is called, how well do you know Channing Tatum?
I mean, not very well.
I know he's an actor.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I've not met him.
I think we're going to find out that you're going to know him quite well.
Okay.
All right.
Question one.
And this has got a school photo of Channing Tatum.
I didn't know him at school.
Well you might not know this answer then, Bud.
Which region of the United States was Channing Tatum born in?
Southwest, north or east?
Isn't that the most annoying way to write northeast, south and west you've ever heard
in your entire life?
Yeah, I'm going to say, I'm going to say west.
You're going to say west?
California, I'm guessing.
Oh, sorry.
That was incorrect, buddy.
He was actually born in the south.
Ah, shame.
Which of the following conditions did Channing Tatum struggle with as a youngster?
Obesity, depression, ADD or anxiety?
I'm going to say anxiety.
Oh, buddy.
It was ADD.
Yeah.
I'm sorry about this, mate.
I'm beginning to feel like I don't even know Channing Tatum.
No, no, no.
I've got belief in you.
We can pull this back.
Which of these jobs did Channing Tatum most famously perform prior to becoming a film
actor?
Dripper.
Lumberjack, liquor salesman, stripper or electrician?
Stripper.
Correct.
It's bad that you knew that one, eh?
Yeah, because Magic Mike.
Mad that you knew that one.
Best date movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which of these music videos marked Channing Tatum's first professional industry gig?
Was it Stronger by Britney Spears?
Was it She Bangs by Ricky Martin?
Was it I'm Your Baby Tonight by Whitney Houston?
Or was it Beautiful by Christina Aguilera?
I'm going to go, just because it's funny, with the homoeroticism of She Bangs by Ricky
Martin.
Dude, I'd have done the same.
What are we saying?
That is correct.
You have been my hero, baby.
Which of these real life criminals did Channing Tatum portray in the 2009 film Public Enemies?
Was it Pretty Boy Floyd?
Was it John Dillinger?
Was it Jesse James?
Was it Al Capone?
It was Pretty Boy Floyd.
Great film.
Pretty Boy Floyd.
Let's have a look, shall we?
That's incredible.
There you go, mate.
Anything with Stephen Grahamein, I will watch.
Sound.
All right.
Well, you are at the current score is three out of 100.
So I'm guessing this is a long quiz.
Round out at 10 questions.
Should we round out at 10?
Yeah, yeah.
We round out at 10.
You know what I mean?
There's three left, four left.
In what year did Channing Tatum marry?
2000, 2002, 2005 or 2009?
Well, I don't know this, Ben, do I?
Because I thought he was married to Zoe Kravitz.
Yeah, but you know what I mean?
What were the years again?
2000, 2002, 2005 or 2009.
Essentially two years apart.
Those are all long before I read he called off his engagement to Zoe Kravitz.
So I've got no idea what is happening right now.
I'm going to say 2009.
Was that even an option?
It was an option.
Let me have a look.
Oh, thank God for that.
Let me have a look.
That's correct.
I know because I was at the wedding.
Yeah, you were there.
Yeah, I remember.
I saw the photos.
Which of the following is the profession of Channing Tatum's character in the 2013 drama
Foxcatcher?
Was he an Olympic wrestler?
Yes.
A football player, a polo player or a tennis player?
Olympic wrestler.
I said it after two options, but because that's very confusing.
I said it after the first one.
In my world, I said it immediately on the of Olympic.
Okay, sounds right.
Well, Olympic was right.
Olympic wrestler was right.
Which of the following characters did Channing Tatum voice in The Simpsons?
Was it Walton Goggins?
Was it Ned Flanders?
Was it himself or was it Ronald Rowley?
Well it will be Simpson.
So it will be himself because he will play himself.
As if that's the answer.
That's so stupid.
This is a shit quiz world.
It's The Simpsons.
They're not going to get Channing Tatum on to be someone other than Channing Tatum, are
they?
This is bollocks.
What would be the point?
We're ending that there.
You got seven out of a hundred and in my book, that's a win.
All right.
Yeah.
Good job, buddy.
Good job.
I've got something to play you, Ben.
This is my comment corner entry.
It's not a comment corner.
Okay.
We need to give you some backstory.
So hoping to move soon.
Living with family, it's been fun, but when I move, family want to move as well.
So there's all sorts of things that are being done to ready for leaving this place and going
somewhere else, going our separate ways.
One of them is just going through the huge amounts of storage and getting rid.
There's just stuff.
Dead bodies from crimes that no one's looking for, the perpetrators anymore.
Needs to get gone.
Bad taxidermy.
Good taxidermy.
And in there is a feather duster, right?
So that's gone on Facebook marketplace.
And let me tell you, let me tell you, the responses have been a treat.
Yes.
Now I'm just going to play you my favourite one.
It's a voice note that somebody sent.
Now I do warn you, I do live in the country and I am rare in the way I sound around here.
You're about to be subjected to a hot fuzz-esque thick West country accent.
So dial your ear in for that and you might catch a half of this.
Okay?
Hit me.
If you've got a lot of other interests, go for it, love, right?
I want it, but I've got very drunk tonight.
It's the anniversary of my friend's death.
So yeah, I'm sorry to let you down.
But if you've got other interests, go for it.
If not, I'll pick up tomorrow, I promise you.
If you've got other interests, by all means, go for it.
But I got very drunk tonight with celebrating my friend hanging himself.
I love this stuff so much.
Facebook marketplace is the wild West, man.
It's just a wild West.
I don't understand how people exist.
How people, how do I mean, clearly a mate doesn't.
That's the thing.
You know what I mean?
That's okay.
It's also, it's also the phrasing that we're celebrating.
My friends like, wow, were they really a mate?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Oh my God.
What are you rating?
What are you rating blink twice?
I'm going to give it an eight.
It's a high eight.
Interesting.
That's interesting.
It's a high eight.
Cause I've, I've got something for this.
Okay.
I've got let it's, it's a title.
Okay.
It's another, if okay, if so hot right now turns out to not be so hot right now.
I think it's the season to celebrate our eights man.
Okay.
They're not the greatest, but they're a damn good time.
Celebrate an eight.
I'm down to celebrate an eight.
Not everything has to be.
We can celebrate an eight hanging themselves.
You know what I mean?
Let's get West country with it, man.
She was celebrating her eight hanging himself.
That's why they're celebrating.
They're celebrating their eight.
I love this.
I feel like not every film has to change the world.
Not every film has to say something new or be the film to say it the best.
You can just put it on.
And then when you, when you next look at your watch, it's two hours later and you've had
a good time.
That's exactly what this is.
It's that, but in a more cathartic sense, it's a very good release that everyone needs
every now and then.
A hundred percent.
I think there's, there's people out there that this would be the fattest 10 for.
And I am, I'm so unbelievably happy that you have this in your arsenal because you deserve
it.
Way to go, man.
You know what I mean?
Enjoy it.
Take it all in.
The two points it loses is the sum of the cinematography where I'm like trying to fit
a lot into one frame.
And if I'm being honest, I could probably do that.
If I look at someone, I go, I could probably, it's my, it's my rule of thumb for art.
If I'm like, I could probably do that.
It's like, yeah.
You know what I mean?
I didn't do it, so it's still impressive, but it's not like, wow, how does that happen?
Whereas in some films I watch and I'm like, why would you even think of doing this phenomenal
thing?
Why would you ever dare in the bin?
Why would you ever dare to do this brave, brave camera angle?
A lot of it's just sort of like tracking and stuff.
The audio is mint.
Yep.
Lots of snap cuts.
Yeah.
That's great.
Big fan of that.
But yeah, I just, there's some points where I'm like, if I can do it, try harder.
It's a good eight.
That sadly is all the time we have for this week.
We will be back next week with a film that is not only so hot right now in that it has
a famous actor known for doing one thing presented doing something else, but I wouldn't be surprised
if it's another eight we can celebrate, buddy.
It's going to be heretic next week.
Ooh.
Interesting.
Doing Halloween in February.
Yeah, buddy.
Welcome to the prep.
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Ben is now going to wrap up thoughts, themes and feelings of this week's film into a little
Monday motivational pep talk while I just do what everyone always tells you to do and
just tell you to consume.
Listen, if there's one thing we take away from this film more than anything else, you
can't beat them, join them.
You know what I mean?
Fuck them.
Just if you're going to if you if you've been robbed, double down, rob them back.
But also rob their bloodline.
Don't ever let it drop.
You could commit to this for a few years.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I've robbed your parents, but also you've just moved to uni.
Ha ha ha ha.
That's my laptop now, bitch.
That's my laptop now.
Or, you know, like if they start if they start to like you know, I had so much more in the
tank.
I had more in the tank.