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We got an open for this week.

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Is this Groundhog Day?

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Yes.

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Swear jar.

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If we swear five times in one episode they send photos of our phobias to Insta.

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I got two crabs this week.

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Good.

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Photos of on my phone.

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Oh right, okay.

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I'm celibate.

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I mean you're ball-less now.

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This is, you know, 9-11 happened and it took out both the towers.

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That's one of many times 9-11 is going to come up in this episode.

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Shall we start the show?

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Let's get on with it, buddy.

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Let's go.

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Hello everyone and welcome to the Every Movie Ever podcast.

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My name is Ben Groves.

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My name is Rob Macfarlane.

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Welcome to the show, a movie podcast slash mental health check-in for two broken-brained

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best friends talking around their problems, but not about their problems while laughing

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at movies.

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So given that this is a mental health check-in, Ben, thinly veiled, how are you?

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That's the more important question.

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Before we get to what we're doing, how are you doing?

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Aggressively mediocre, also a little bit ill.

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You?

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Absolutely awful, but don't have time to get into it.

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Alright, so I can't swear enough to really explain it.

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Yeah, swear jar.

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What are we doing, Ben, now that we've really delved into our issue?

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Yeah, being this vulnerable is a new feeling for me.

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I feel so naked.

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We are covering every David Fincher movie ever, and we have reached what some consider

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the jewel in the crown of Fincher's 90s filmography.

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And I'd love to tell you what that is, Rob, but unfortunately the first rule of this film

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is I'm not allowed to talk about it.

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It's Fincher's Crown Jewels.

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It's Fight Club.

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And I'm not in the club because I don't have Crown Jewels anymore.

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You don't?

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Oh my god, Loophole!

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Loophole, exactly.

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I've already had my testicles severed from my pea shooter.

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Fantastic.

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Because of reproductive rights.

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Pea shooter!

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Fantastic.

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Sorry, my paste cannon, is that better?

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Do you prefer that?

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Much worse.

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Yeah, exactly.

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We've got so much, so, so much to get into this episode.

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We're getting into how this was written, both as a book and a movie.

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Why this is another perfect film for myself.

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The criminal misinterpretation of the subtext of this film and how it leant very heavily

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into the formation of bro culture.

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How the making of this film leant on all of Fincher's prior filmography.

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And I have a bit of an insane theory.

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I mean, it is totally insane.

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It's so insane.

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The people that I hope this deeply upsets.

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I cannot tell you, mate.

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It's a theory that's going to deeply upset a chunk of the fandom of this film.

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And I cannot, cannot wait.

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This sounds incredible.

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I think this film might controversially be one of the most misunderstood films ever made.

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For sure.

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It's massively important for a whole host of reasons.

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But I think why it's massively important is misinterpreted by its fans and its critics.

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I agree.

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I want to, you know, set the record straight.

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But before we do, where Fincher at, man?

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What that Fincher do?

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What that Fincher do?

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Where that man been?

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I've got, I've got little information.

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All right, hit me with it.

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It's mostly, it's mostly what David Fincher wasn't doing.

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Let's put it that way.

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So if we do what that man been doing, let's do what that man not been doing.

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Well, I mean, so what he been doing is making Fight Club.

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Because this is not long after the game.

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This is again, two years after the game.

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It's insane that he's done this.

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He's made, he's literally throwing them out.

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Throwing ropes left, right and center.

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Oh, this is, I mean, it's appropriate to what we're going to get into later.

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Like a perverse Spider-Man.

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No, he was approached to direct a adaptation of the musical Chicago.

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He turned that down.

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Good.

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He tried getting off the ground, a version of Blade, which eventually became the Blade

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we know and love.

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He sort of was still involved in trying to get that, you know, going.

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Good, good.

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Bin that off.

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Then there was a script called the Night Watchman worked on that for a fair while.

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I was going to get that made.

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Bin that off, although it did see a release eventually as Street Kings with Keanu Reeves

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and Forrest Whitaker.

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You remember that movie, right?

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Street Kings.

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It sounds familiar.

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It sounds like one of those forgotten movies that was like a blip on the radar as it was

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released, let alone 25 years later.

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Yeah, yeah.

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This was like a number six at the box office.

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Keanu did it for the money.

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Forrest Whitaker was thinking it was going to be the big break in his career.

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And he's now just sits in a petrol station carousel of DVDs.

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That's where I know it from.

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That's where I've seen it recently.

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There you go.

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My frequent DVD shopping.

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Right.

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So Finch has basically just been dodging duds.

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All right.

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That's fair.

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For a year whilst making this.

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All right.

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Well, let's go on a little journey with me.

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Let's go on a little journey.

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The year is 1999.

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Marilyn Manson is being blamed for the shootings of Columbine.

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Oh, the good old days.

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The good old days.

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Remember when he did that documentary interview and we all thought he was the smartest man

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in the world because he gave a slightly empathetic answer.

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And we're like, wow, what an incredible guy.

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And little did we know that in the cupboard behind him was a locked up woman.

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Yeah, that's.

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Don't man, because he was my favorite musician.

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Yeah, I do most of my life.

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Honestly, coma white mechanical animals.

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That was my, that was my album.

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It's only by the grace of God that I don't have his face large on my back.

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Same.

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Judging me.

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I went to get his portrait on my leg and I chickened out last minute because I was like,

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is this what I want next to my pee pee?

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Turns out the answer was no, but it's 1999.

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Oh yeah.

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I forgot that's where we were.

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Dads across the land are preparing their families for what could be the worst financial crisis

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ever.

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Why 2K is rapidly approaching buddy.

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When we thought the wiping out of all the credit card companies would be a bad day.

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Again, it's fight club.

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It's fight club.

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God predicted it, man.

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He saw this coming, but it's 1999.

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Oh right.

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Bill Clinton is impeached.

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I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

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Why have you turned into a sort of camp version of Cleveland from Family Guy?

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Some people have listened to that and gone, Oh my God, did they get Bill Clinton to do

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a gas spot on the show?

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The answer is no.

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Right.

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This isn't a Disney channel moment, mate.

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Just cause I'm really good at the Disney channel voice doesn't mean that you have to be good

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at a voice now.

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All right.

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Just me.

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I'm just not Bill Clinton.

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The year is 1999.

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Oh my God.

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Ben and Rob are 11 years old, mincing about towns, prepping for Y2K.

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Discovering their bodies.

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Oh my dude.

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Same 11.

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That's all I did.

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First time.

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Same.

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I was, I was an absolute fiend for it.

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My hands were callous.

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Just casually sanding down a sideboard with your palm.

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Honestly, every time you open a door, the door knob gets a little smaller.

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It's like, Oh man, you need to calm down.

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But it's 1999 buddy.

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And David Fincher has given $60 million to make Fight Club.

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How much did it make?

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Stick around to find out.

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Ooh, a little hook for later.

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Look at us getting slowly more professional live on it.

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Reel them in.

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Know what I mean?

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I'm going to make an admission, mate.

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I, I mainlined this film as a, as a young teenager and I thought it was the smartest,

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coolest, most correct, most rebellious film in the world.

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And I literally sort of sat around smoking a cigarette.

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I'd twos off a mate.

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Spouting philosophy.

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I'd twos off this film.

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That sounds incredible.

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I went a slightly different direction.

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Every college trip to like Barmoth beach.

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I would be done in the biggest pinkest cowboy hat and feather bow possible.

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Cause I was just sort of like, you know what?

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Oh my God.

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I'm fine with it.

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And it's just struck me that when I knew you in uni, you were a colorful little clown

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man.

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That was all about it.

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I've only just realized now that basically you were just wearing remixes of Tyler Durden's

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many outfits in this film.

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All at once.

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All at once.

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I was cosplaying it as every Tyler Durden ever.

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All the time.

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So we, we fell hook like, so we fell hook line and sinker for, for some of what we're

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about to criticize others for still believing now.

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Before we get into that train of hate.

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Fun hate.

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I love the hate with giggles and smiles.

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For those of you who haven't seen the film in a long while and want a little refresher

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and what it's about, or those of you who've never seen it and never planned to, we're

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going to just very quickly break down the full plot of the film.

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If you haven't seen fight club, there will be no point in doing so after listening to

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the next five minutes of this podcast.

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No pause the show, go and listen.

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This is your spoiler warning.

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The film will never be the same.

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If you listen to this without seeing it, go, go watch it.

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And then immediately come back to us to validate, to validate us.

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Give me, give me the attention, please.

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Let's play the jingle.

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We're having a breakdown.

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Fight club follows the journey of an unnamed narrator, a disillusioned and insomnia stricken

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white collar worker who feels disconnected from modern consumerist society.

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Been there.

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Join the queue.

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Been there.

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He fills his evenings by attending support groups for various afflictions like testicular

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cancer, blood parasites, all sorts, but not because he's suffering from them, but to gain

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some sort of emotional release as he cries into the full boobs of an estrogen riddled

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ex bodybuilder.

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It's the sexiest version of meatloaf.

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The narrator's emotional struggles are reflected in sort of subtle ways with his empty corporate

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lifestyle.

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He's crippling addiction to buying things from Ikea as well as less subtle ways like

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the narrator telling us directly because you know, he's, he's the narrator.

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He's the narrator and he just goes, this is how I feel.

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And I go, Ooh, so subtle.

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Ooh, very well.

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Very well.

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The narrator's fragile sense of masculinity is further undermined by Marla Singer, another

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support group tourist.

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Marla's presence disrupts the narrator's emotional relief and following an argument in the street,

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they agree to split the support groups like a child of divorced parents on a work trip.

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The narrator meets Tyler Durden, a charismatic, funny, gorgeous, gorgeous soap salesman.

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It's offensive how attractive Brad Pitt is in this film.

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Dude, you could crack walnuts with those cum gutters.

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Oh, Lee, sir.

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You really could.

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Tyler Durden embodies an aggressive and rebellious version of masculinity that the narrator finds

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oh, so appealing.

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I mean, as a viewer, you do too.

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The film's very good at making it seductive.

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Tyler's philosophy though, they challenge the narrator's consumerist values and they

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encourage him to embrace a more chaotic, carefree and sort of masculine attitude towards his

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life.

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And after a drunken discussion one night, Tyler and the narrator establish a fight club.

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It's an underground group where men can gather to fight each other in consensually brutal

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manner.

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It's presented as an outlet for men to sort of reconnect with their raw masculine energy

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free from societal restraints.

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But Marla's still there.

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She's complicating things.

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She becomes romantically involved with Tyler, leading the narrator to experience jealousy,

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confusion, permanent sex noise anytime he's home.

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That's so true.

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That shit's everywhere.

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That stuff's everywhere.

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As Fight Club evolves, it morphs into Project Mayhem, a more extreme Project Mayhem.

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Totally tubular, man.

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A more extreme version, an anarchistic organisation led by Tyler Durden.

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This shift underscores how Tyler's toxic masculinity escalates from personal empowerment through

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violence to social destruction.

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The film highlights how men, in their attempt to reclaim a sense of power, may turn to destructive

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behaviours that not only harm themselves, but also society at large.

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Ben, just because I put a bit of insight into the breakdown doesn't mean you need to pretentiously

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get up, alright?

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This is saving us so much time to get into the real issues, alright?

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Sorry.

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Just let me smack my glasses up my nose bridge real quick.

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Tyler's version of masculinity rejects vulnerability, empathy and introspection.

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Been there, buddy.

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All huge parts of what being a person are.

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Instead, he promotes chaos, dominance and destruction as the ideal qualities for a life

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well lived.

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Tyler, meanwhile, remains on the fringes, often spoken about between them as Tyler insists

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the narrator shares nothing with her about Project Mayhem.

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In the final act, the narrator realises that Tyler, and again, spoiler warning, is a manifestation

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of his own split psyche, representing the dangerous extremes of his masculinity crisis.

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Oh my god, what?

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Tyler's ultimate plan of destroying the credit card companies has in fact been his own insomnia

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ridden brain and his own internal battle with Tyler symbolising the sort of broader struggle

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that many men face when dealing with societal expectations of what it means to be a man.

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He destroys Tyler by shooting himself in the mouth, rejecting the toxic masculinity and

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reclaiming some sense of a balanced identity.

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You go girl.

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Although the ending's left kind of ambiguous, you know, whether he actually truly escapes

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these influences and I've got a wild way of reinterpreting this film that will make much

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of this irrelevant.

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I can't wait for that to be honest mate, because you've not shared that with me and I've asked

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you twice and you've flat out said no twice and it's honestly, it's a little hurtful at

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this point.

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It's a little hurtful.

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Like I said, I watched this when I was 14 and I was like, oh my god, I also feel like society

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is too commercialised and I also struggle.

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I was a very homosexual looking teenager.

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Yeah.

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I can see it.

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I had very long eyelashes.

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I was small.

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I was skinny fat.

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You've always had great eyelashes though.

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Since the day I met you, your eyelashes, I've always been like, god damn it.

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But when I was a teenager, I would blink and girls fringes would fly backwards.

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Their hair would immediately be brushed behind their ear.

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Why do you think it was tornado season in Japan for all of the early 2000s?

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Chaos effect is real.

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Yeah, right.

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Jeff Goldblum was right.

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He's never wrong.

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Come on.

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So this film for me, I was like, yeah, I do feel unfairly bullied by the sort of James

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Bond.

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You're going to go out there and you're going to sleep with as many women as possible to

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validate your masculinity.

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And I was like, no, that's stupid.

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And then just live the next 20 years of my life as if all of that were true.

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Yeah, dude, super similar, man.

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When we go into the Sigma stuff, it's not like we've got clean hands, right?

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No, of course not, dude.

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This is the thing.

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And it's what I love most about this show.

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We can hold ourselves accountable to this stuff, right?

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When I first watched this film, I was so, I misinterpreted this to the T. It was like

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textbook how not to read a film because I was young, I was dumb and full of calloused

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hands, buddy.

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Calloused hands.

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I wasn't full of it.

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Evidently.

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I was meeting girls and just air was coming out and it was throwing their fringe behind

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their ear.

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I wasn't meeting girls because I was two, I was literally like, no, I'm busy tonight.

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What are you doing?

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Wanking nine times by three.

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You know what I mean?

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I hate this swear jar.

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So sorry.

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I'm trying.

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I'm trying.

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Right.

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But anyway, I took it on and being sort of like, I'm unfairly bullied.

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It's too much pressure to do this.

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I have to do X, Y, and Z to be like a high value male.

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What is that?

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That's stupid.

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I don't want to do this.

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I'm going to put my finger at everyone else by virtue of this film and go, it's everyone

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else's fault.

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It's society's fault.

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It's this, that and the other.

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It's not me.

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It's the world that's wrong.

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Principal Skinner.

389
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Yeah, exactly.

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That's it.

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And then I grew up a bit and got a little bit more introspective and was like, oh, right.

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Every room I walk into is stinking like dog excrement.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So maybe it's about time I looked at my own shoes.

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Right.

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So Chuck Palanick.

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Chuck Palanick.

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Chuck Palanick.

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Chuck Palanick.

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Chuck Palanick.

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Chuck Palanick.

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Chuckie P.

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Chuckie P.

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Chuckie P.

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Chuckie P.

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He's a gay gentleman.

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I found out the research of this film.

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Had no idea.

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Okay.

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But he wrote the book that this is based on.

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Okay.

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And it's a different book, right?

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It is very different.

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Right.

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Okay.

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The narrator ends up in a mental asylum at the end for a start.

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Is it wrong that a bit of me kind of, I look forward to being, imagine how much of a relief

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being sectioned would be.

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I got within a Nat's wing of getting sectioned on my last breakdown.

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Yeah.

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And the police officer that escorted me to hospital was like, you had about another four

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minutes to come with us.

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Yeah.

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And then we were going to section you.

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Yeah.

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That's part of me was so annoyed.

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I was like, Oh, it would have been great.

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I was only four minutes away.

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Exactly.

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God damn it.

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Give a guy a heads up next time.

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Cause I can really do with the time off.

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Can't come into work.

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Sorry.

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I've been sectioned.

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I just, I'd run out the clock.

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You know what I mean?

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I'd keep that time a ticket.

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Right.

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So Chuckie P he, he was on a camping trip, got into a fist fight.

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As do camping always ends one way.

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I don't know why people keep doing it.

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I love camping.

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I do specifically for this.

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Someone plays a music a bit loud.

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I'm going to go boot their tent until someone comes out.

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You know what I mean?

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Shut up.

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Shut up.

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I'm here to relax.

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So he got into a fight whilst camping, right?

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Went back to work, bruises on his face, found that people didn't ask him about his bruises.

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It made them uncomfortable and everyone sort of skirted around the fact.

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And because of that, he sort of got into more fights outside of work.

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Okay.

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And then it kind of got into like increasingly more fights.

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Oh my God.

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Till it became a thing.

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And he wrote this, he wrote this book called Fight Club.

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Right.

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Okay.

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After writing it, obviously he was sending it out left front and sending the manuscripts

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floating around the, no one wanted to pick it up shockingly.

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Oh really?

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Wow.

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Cause it was brutal.

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For the time it was out.

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Our female readers will love this Marla Singer character.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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Look at the literary world of 1999, a fight club.

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Yeah.

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It's not the Joy Luck Club, is it?

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Exactly.

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You know what I mean?

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So anyway, publishers VW Northern eventually picked it up, but they offered him a $7,000

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advance.

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Oh my God.

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And it's just work minimum wage for six months.

481
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It's actually more cost effective to work minimum wage.

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It truly is.

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You can work for between seven to eight pounds an hour in a pawn shop.

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And it's worth more.

485
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Yeah.

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But emotionally way more taxing.

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But Chuckie P turned around and this is a direct quote from Chuckie P.

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It's what publishers called kiss off money.

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Right.

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They don't want to alienate the editor who wants to acquire the book, but they do want

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to offend the writer enough that the writer just walks away from the deal.

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Kiss off.

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Kiss off.

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K-I-S-S.

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Okay.

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So it's a sort of repellent spray for when Gene Simmons won't leave you alone.

497
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Exactly.

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It's like, it's like when, when one guy doesn't want to leave the room and everyone's like,

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I think it's time you leave now.

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Gene Simmons just gives you a little tongue lick, like a little, that's the seven grand.

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That's the seven grand whispering at you being sort of like, we're doing this out of pity,

502
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mate.

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I like it.

504
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I like it.

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I like it.

506
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Now I'm going to argue that this is a perfect film for you.

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I'm into it.

508
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Let's hear it.

509
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I think it's due with Fincher and how he, he writes the film, right?

510
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Yeah.

511
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So he tried to buy the rights for Fight Club.

512
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The second he read it, he loved it.

513
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,280
He found it hilarious, right?

514
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,280
He was like, this is an incredible, incredible film.

515
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Yeah.

516
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,520
By the nineties, America is in a huge period of peace.

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It's post the Cold War, but it's pre 9 11.

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The economy's good.

519
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Commercialism's gone mental.

520
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Yeah.

521
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Eighties kind of hyper corporate Gordon Gekko stuff.

522
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Okay.

523
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,400
Yeah.

524
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,400
Everyone was really inspired.

525
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,400
Yeah.

526
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,400
I'm going to go chase that.

527
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,200
And they've ended up in like lower middle management positions that never end.

528
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,200
Yeah.

529
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:36,200
And you get a kind of late nineties wave of cinema, which is all about kind of leaving

530
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,200
that behind office space.

531
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,520
I'm gonna need you to stay late.

532
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,520
Yeah.

533
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,440
The Truman show or if your normal life isn't normal.

534
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:45,440
Great show.

535
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,520
It's sort of nineties, clerks, man.

536
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,520
Clerks.

537
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,440
One of the greatest films that exists.

538
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:57,440
Think about this, when everything's fine, it's really hard to point at something and

539
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,480
say it's the reason you're not happy.

540
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,480
Exactly.

541
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,480
Right.

542
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,480
Exactly.

543
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,520
So we're lucky in a way because we can point at our jobs or our mental health and we can

544
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,960
go, oh, that's, that's what's wrong.

545
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,360
Can you imagine the terror of everything being all right?

546
00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:13,440
What would we blame our own happiness on?

547
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,240
I mean, to be honest, mate, I'm rapidly approaching it.

548
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,120
Like my beige days are getting beige and I'm like middle of the road in it.

549
00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:21,120
You know what I mean?

550
00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:22,720
You've been being David Fincher in the nineties.

551
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,600
You've had box office success.

552
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,320
You've had critical acclaim and you're still not happy.

553
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,040
Yeah, that's rough.

554
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,640
And then this film lands on your lap.

555
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:33,640
A thousand percent.

556
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,240
I'm jumping at it and I'm being like, this is the one.

557
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,240
This is the one.

558
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,040
So he gets, he gets his mate, Andrew Kevin Walker involved.

559
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,040
Oh, okay.

560
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,720
Who, who wrote the script for Seven.

561
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,720
He wrote Seven.

562
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:45,720
Yeah.

563
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,720
He got Brad Pitt, who was hot off, um, Meet Joe Black and whole bunch of Brad, Brad bloody

564
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:50,720
Pitt.

565
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:51,720
Brad Pitt, man.

566
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:52,720
Come on.

567
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,720
Ed Norton.

568
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,000
He hooks off American history X because Ed Norton just really enjoys doing, you know,

569
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,320
uncontroversial roles.

570
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,200
Yeah.

571
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,080
And they would go around for brainstorming sessions at, um, David Fincher's house.

572
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,080
Okay.

573
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,720
Andrew Kevin Walker, by the way, they weren't allowed to legally credit him.

574
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,880
So there are three detectives in this movie.

575
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,120
There's detective Andrew, detective Kevin and detective Walker.

576
00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:17,360
Oh, I love that so much.

577
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:20,480
And there's a book called best movie year ever, which is about all the films that came

578
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,480
out in 1999, you know, the matrix, this, uh, by a guy called Brian Raftery.

579
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:30,400
And he, uh, to quote, they'd hang out at Pitt's house or an office across from Hollywood's

580
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:37,040
famed Chinese theater, where they drink Mountain Dew, play Nerf basketball and talk for hours,

581
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,960
riffing on the film's numerous bulls eyes, masculinity, consumerism, and the aggravating

582
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,960
elders.

583
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,960
God, that sounds amazing.

584
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,480
So they're kind of going through this male bonding ritual.

585
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,480
Yeah.

586
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,000
The fight club later goes on to moan about, right?

587
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,400
They have a big moan session.

588
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,400
Incredible.

589
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:58,280
Um, Ed Norton got really wound up about a VW Beetle, which is why that's, I think there's

590
00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,800
a scene where golf balls.

591
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:00,800
No, no, no.

592
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,280
It's where they've got the baseball bats.

593
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,120
It's when project mayhem doing their thing and they smack a Volkswagen Beetle.

594
00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:11,080
Norton's there going, and he says about the beetle, they just wanted to repackage an authentic

595
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,800
baby boomer youth experience to us.

596
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,000
They don't even want us to have our own.

597
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,000
Wow.

598
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:22,120
They want us to buy sentiment for the sixties with a little fucking plastic molded flower

599
00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:26,120
that you sit in the dashboard and then they wonder why we're cynical.

600
00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:28,600
Dude, it kind of makes perfect sense though.

601
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,600
Right.

602
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,480
So it's a bunch of dudes who things have gone right for.

603
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,940
They should be living the dream.

604
00:23:33,940 --> 00:23:36,120
You and I both know exactly how that feels.

605
00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:37,120
Thousand percent.

606
00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:38,700
They're still mad unhappy.

607
00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:45,240
They find this book that really crystallizes that feeling into a narrative, a great narrative.

608
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:55,880
And then they take 60 million of Rupert Murdoch's money from Fox, the same studio that completely,

609
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,320
completely shafted David Fincher on Alien 3.

610
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,000
And then they turned in the script and Fincher says, I went back to Fox with this unabridged

611
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,600
dictionary size package.

612
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,600
It's Edward, it's Brad.

613
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,320
We're going to start inside Edward's brain and pull out.

614
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,920
We're going to blow up a plane.

615
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,080
All of this shit.

616
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,840
We've got 72 hours to tell us if you're interested.

617
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,040
Tell me that's not project mayhem.

618
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,840
Oh, this sounds like it should be a rage against the machine song.

619
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,200
What the hell, man?

620
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,600
For me, that is the gang that wrote this film going, let's take some corporate money.

621
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,760
Oh my God.

622
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,320
All the adverts are going to be between chunks of this movie when this gets played on the

623
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,320
network television.

624
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,320
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

625
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,920
Let's just have it be, don't buy this stuff.

626
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:44,120
You've literally taken the advertisers money to make a film to criticize the advertisers.

627
00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:45,840
That is okay.

628
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:46,840
Okay.

629
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,840
So A, what you've done there in two fell sweeps is one made me want to desperately listen

630
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,040
to a raging as a machine full volume whilst driving around in my little full fiesta screaming

631
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,040
like a teenager.

632
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,040
Yeah.

633
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,000
Also, you've just proven to me that this is exactly my definition of a perfect film.

634
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,000
Yeah.

635
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,280
It is exactly my definition of a person.

636
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:10,360
They all just went down round to Brad's Modo Dojo Casa house and wrote Fight Club playing

637
00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:11,360
Nerf basketball.

638
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,360
Modo Dojo Casa house.

639
00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:15,880
I love this so much.

640
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,920
That's a great way to look at this.

641
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:23,660
But this film has been adopted by the Sigma bros.

642
00:25:23,660 --> 00:25:27,640
So for the listeners who don't know, we've got a section on what a Sigma is.

643
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,640
We do.

644
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,640
Because this is quite relevant.

645
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,200
I found this article, right?

646
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,200
Okay.

647
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,640
But it's a cesspit out there, Ben.

648
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:35,640
It is.

649
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,840
And everyone says, oh, this is wildly misinterpreted.

650
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,960
Loads of problematic people say this is their favourite film.

651
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,560
Trying to find those problematic people saying it's their favourite film, quite difficult.

652
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,560
Oh, dude.

653
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,080
You've just got to watch nine hours of their podcast and find the one reference.

654
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,080
And I'm not doing that.

655
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,080
No, there's loads of subtle references in little TikTok clips.

656
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,400
I'm like, just say it though.

657
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,400
Just say it.

658
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,400
Right.

659
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,400
Just say that you're Tyler Durden.

660
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,400
Just say it.

661
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,400
So I found a blog.

662
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,400
Okay.

663
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,800
I found a blog and I won't quote this because I don't know if the guy stands by this and

664
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,800
it's embarrassing.

665
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,800
Okay.

666
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,440
But it's his definition of what a Sigma is.

667
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,440
I love this already.

668
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,000
I also have a definition and then I have my own definition.

669
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,240
Let's compare notes.

670
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,240
Right.

671
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,640
So this guy, this guy's talking about alphas and betas and all this kind of stuff.

672
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:27,520
And for the record, the whole alpha wolf science has been disavowed by the people who wrote

673
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:35,320
the original paper because it only existed in wolves in captivity and in free natural

674
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:40,320
wolves, alphas, betas, all of this kind of stuff does not exist, but it's been taken

675
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,800
up by the Manosphere.

676
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:47,340
And this particular member says, social hierarchies have been observed through countless periods

677
00:26:47,340 --> 00:26:55,080
in many different species, including mammals, insects, birds, and even crustaceans.

678
00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:00,680
We're here to talk about the classification of males considered an exception to the system.

679
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:07,080
Sigmas and I quote Tyler Durden, Brad Pitt's character from the movie Fight Club is an

680
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,720
excellent example of a Sigma male who's completely removed from the chains of so-called social

681
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,720
hierarchy.

682
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,720
Right.

683
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:20,200
Sigma males are free-spirited men, masters of silence, freedom, and independence.

684
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:26,160
They marched to the beat of their own drum without regard for social acceptance or hierarchy.

685
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:31,400
Sigmas are proud to be rebels, non-conformists, wanderers, and loners.

686
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:37,680
James Bond in all of his roles throughout history is a cream of the crop Sigma male.

687
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,680
Right.

688
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,680
Okay.

689
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,920
That's what the Manosphere counts as Sigma as.

690
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,780
Dude, the cream on my stomach then felt like my intestines were being wrung out like an

691
00:27:46,780 --> 00:27:47,880
old dishcloth.

692
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,360
That was the worst thing.

693
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:50,360
Yeah.

694
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:51,360
Imagine if I now leaned in for a kiss.

695
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:55,640
Dude, don't because I genuinely love you.

696
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,640
That made me hate you a little bit.

697
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,640
All right.

698
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,640
I know you were reading someone else.

699
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,640
I didn't like it.

700
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,840
What have you found out there in the blog of these enlightened thinkers?

701
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:11,160
So I've come to the conclusion that like looking at the definitions of alphas and betas and

702
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:19,120
sigmas, I've put a loose sort of a loose, I don't know, summary together.

703
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:23,720
Sigma males are like a cross between an alpha and a beta male by the definitions that I've

704
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,720
read in these articles.

705
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,720
Right.

706
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,720
Okay.

707
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:32,920
In the way that sigma male attitude is when a beta male's inferiority complex is met with

708
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,640
the arrogance and the inflated ego of an alpha male.

709
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,000
And it's when those two points merge, you get the sigma thing.

710
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,000
Right.

711
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,520
Massive arrogance mixed with massive insecurity.

712
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,420
And it's so deluded to a point where you go, no, this makes me strong.

713
00:28:47,420 --> 00:28:48,420
This makes me powerful.

714
00:28:48,420 --> 00:28:49,920
This makes me dangerous to you.

715
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,960
And it's like, it made me sad because I was like, I just want to give you a cuddle, a

716
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,340
quick high five, and then we go get a cheesecake and play some card games.

717
00:28:58,340 --> 00:28:59,340
You know what I mean?

718
00:28:59,340 --> 00:29:00,340
Like I think this is what you need.

719
00:29:00,340 --> 00:29:01,340
Yeah.

720
00:29:01,340 --> 00:29:02,340
Yeah.

721
00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:05,380
So I mean, you've got these sort of like big influencers and these big celebrities

722
00:29:05,380 --> 00:29:06,380
that do the whole sort of thing.

723
00:29:06,380 --> 00:29:07,380
We're not going to name them.

724
00:29:07,380 --> 00:29:08,740
They get, you know who they are.

725
00:29:08,740 --> 00:29:11,240
And if you don't know who they are, well done and keep it that way.

726
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,240
We're not going to ruin your life.

727
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,240
Yeah.

728
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,240
You're not on TikTok.

729
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,240
We get it.

730
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,240
You know what I mean?

731
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,240
Good for you.

732
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,240
Some of us have to be.

733
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:25,680
But the likes of these people, they view Tyler as like a positive masculine influence, right?

734
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:32,200
And I'm here to explain why this is categorically wrong.

735
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,640
Is it the fact that Tyler drives a man to blow his own brains out rather than hang out

736
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,640
with him anymore?

737
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,640
That's one reason.

738
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,640
Yes.

739
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,320
It's one reason that everyone seems to ignore that the narrator shoots himself in the mouth

740
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,000
to kill Tyler Durden because he, he cannot put up with the negative influence on his

741
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,200
life anymore.

742
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,200
Everyone ignores that.

743
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,600
And he's just sort of like, yeah, but he's so ripped and doesn't eat Kit Kats because

744
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,520
Kit Kats are advertised on buses.

745
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:58,520
Shut up.

746
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,520
Shut up.

747
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,840
Watch the end of the film.

748
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:01,840
You're insane.

749
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:02,840
In my mind, right.

750
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,840
And I think in many people's minds, I'm going to, I'm going to put this out and say that

751
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,640
you took a similar thing away from this.

752
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,040
This is an assumption on my part.

753
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,520
Correct me if I'm wrong.

754
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,920
Tyler serves as a cautionary tale of what being like this leads to, right?

755
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:15,920
It's a warning sign.

756
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,240
Yes, he is the alarm bell.

757
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,240
Yes.

758
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,080
It's a, it's a, you know, those movies where people are sitting in their houses and join

759
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:26,560
family dinner and then just an anonymous siren screams throughout the land and it means aliens

760
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,880
or an asteroid is coming.

761
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,880
Yep.

762
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:29,880
That's Tyler.

763
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,880
Tyler's coming.

764
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,480
So all of these sigma icons, they meet the same gruesome ending, right?

765
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,480
There's a few of them going around.

766
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,200
Patrick Bateman is a big one as well.

767
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,200
Right.

768
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,320
The dude from American psycho is like a big incel sigma influence.

769
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,320
It's like, are we joking?

770
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,320
Right.

771
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,760
The guy who stares at himself in the mirror whilst having sex and slaps his own ass.

772
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:48,760
Yeah.

773
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:49,760
Because apparently, that's the guy you look up to.

774
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,760
Yeah.

775
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,400
Because of all the self care routine and the trying to better himself professionally and

776
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,400
all this stuff.

777
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,640
It's like, no, he's a psychopath.

778
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,120
That's why he does these things.

779
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,400
It's not healthy.

780
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,400
It's not good.

781
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,400
Yep.

782
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,400
But they all meet the same end.

783
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,480
It's all ignored because it helps with this manly man, misogynistic shite that sort of

784
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,480
thing.

785
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,480
Very misogynistic film.

786
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,480
I've got reasons as to why.

787
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,160
I also think it's not just the shooting in the mouth.

788
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,360
That subway bus, the advertising thing you mentioned, right?

789
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,320
Where they point at an underwear model and they go, huh, is that what men are supposed

790
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,320
to look like?

791
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,320
Huh.

792
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,080
That's exactly how Brad Pitt looks.

793
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,080
Yeah.

794
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,120
Dude, Ed Norton's not that bad in this film.

795
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,120
Do you know what I mean?

796
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,120
He's got some in there.

797
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,120
Right.

798
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,120
You know what I mean?

799
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,120
It's that irony that persists throughout this film.

800
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,120
Right.

801
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,960
Okay, the films that are taken by these like sigma incel weirdos that are just sort of

802
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,360
like, they run with it.

803
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,360
This is my inspiration.

804
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:47,240
Fight Club, American Psycho, Taxi Driver, Nightcrawler was an interesting one that I

805
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,240
found.

806
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,240
Oh, I love that film.

807
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,240
Love that film, right?

808
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,240
I love that film.

809
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,240
Yeah.

810
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,600
It's not anything to emulate.

811
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,800
Well, apparently we're wrong, bud.

812
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,800
That's everywhere.

813
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,800
What?

814
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:58,800
Dude, it's prominent.

815
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,880
It's like this loner who makes himself his own manmate.

816
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,560
It's like, no, he represents the media frenzy.

817
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,560
He is the problem.

818
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,560
Right.

819
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,240
All these things, they're just nursery rhymes for adults.

820
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,720
They're cautionary tales.

821
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,640
That's a really good point.

822
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,200
It's Little Red Riding Hood for adults.

823
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,200
That's what it is, man.

824
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,920
It's the boy who cried wolf to adults.

825
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,760
It's a cautionary tale to say, do not do this.

826
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,560
And it's so misunderstood that everyone's like, yeah, right.

827
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,560
Love that.

828
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,560
Yeah.

829
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,960
Well, they weren't at the time, right?

830
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,560
Because when this came out, flopped.

831
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,560
Yeah, massively.

832
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,640
Massively underperformed commercially at the box office.

833
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,640
Massively.

834
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,000
The critical response was divided.

835
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,400
They felt that they were scenes that served only as like a mindless glamorization of violence.

836
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,400
Yeah.

837
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,400
Yeah.

838
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,000
And there was a whole debate about, is it morally irresponsible?

839
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,400
They kind of feared that young men were going to go out and set up their own real life fight

840
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,400
clubs.

841
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,400
Oh, that makes more sense.

842
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,840
Which is always a thing where they're like, oh, old boy shows a man killing someone with

843
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,840
a hammer.

844
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,720
So the next time there's a hammer attack, we'll pin it on the film.

845
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,440
But also the main villain is like super good at yoga.

846
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,360
I don't think that that was like a main takeaway point.

847
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,880
Like, oh yeah, but evil people are just going to get really good at yoga.

848
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,960
It was, it was controversial.

849
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,080
I can see why.

850
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,400
The misogyny is particularly strong.

851
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,880
You know, Marla's dirty.

852
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,880
Marla's.

853
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,440
Oh, the way she's represented is awful in this film.

854
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,440
Yes.

855
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,440
Yes.

856
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,440
Yes.

857
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,440
Sure dropingly awful, but it has to be.

858
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,000
It has to be because we are dealing with an unreliable narrator.

859
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,000
Exactly.

860
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,280
And so we're seeing his insecurities as if it's reality.

861
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:37,040
Which is the subtext, which is wildly missed in every, in every opportune moment of people

862
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,400
like, yeah, filth.

863
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,940
I think it's a shame.

864
00:33:39,940 --> 00:33:46,080
Like you say that, that the irony got misunderstood and got just taken at face value because there

865
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,760
is so much in this film that is beautiful.

866
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,760
That is incredible.

867
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,760
Stunning.

868
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,920
The soundtrack is stunning.

869
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:55,920
The pixies.

870
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,920
Where is my mind?

871
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,280
When that kicks in at the end, I have to listen to the pixies for a week solid.

872
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,280
Yeah.

873
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,280
I had them on earlier today.

874
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,280
It's all I've done today.

875
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,280
All of Doolittle.

876
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,280
Don't check out the new album.

877
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,640
It's yacht rock and it's awful and lonely.

878
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,640
Yeah.

879
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,640
Old pixies.

880
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,640
Yeah.

881
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:11,640
Incredible.

882
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,640
New pixies.

883
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,160
There's a couple of things he does in this film that I adore because they're lessons

884
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,680
from his earlier films.

885
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,740
Oh, okay.

886
00:34:19,740 --> 00:34:24,080
So in Seven, we talked about the look of the film with Darius Conjie, the cinematographer

887
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,280
who did a thing called Bleach Bypass.

888
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,280
Yes.

889
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,920
Which is when you basically there's lots of chemicals involved in an analog film.

890
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,760
One of which is silver, silver nitrite.

891
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,160
And you have to wash that away for a colour image.

892
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,520
The Bleach Bypass process skips that step.

893
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:46,520
So what you have is you essentially have on the same frame a black and white version of

894
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,800
the scene and the colour version of the scene.

895
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,680
So it plays with the contrast, makes the grain really odd.

896
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:54,680
I love that.

897
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,520
So in Seven, but in this they amp it right up.

898
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,520
Okay.

899
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,600
Which gives the film that dirty, grainy, postmodern filth.

900
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,200
It feels like a bad memory or like a poorly remembered memory.

901
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,520
And that was all stuff learned from Seven, trying to do the John Doe apartment and do

902
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,400
that justice with the really dark lighting.

903
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:19,320
The second thing he does that's from earlier in his career, the Ikea catalogue scene with

904
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,920
the slow pan across his apartment where all the objects from Ikea drop in.

905
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,920
Yes.

906
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,200
Oh, it's so good.

907
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Yeah, it's brilliant.

908
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,720
It's the same technology as the alien from Alien 3 and you loved that too, right?

909
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:31,720
I hate that so much.

910
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:35,120
But it's good to see that he's putting that technology to something that I can get on

911
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,120
board with.

912
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:41,040
He ruined the alien franchise with it, but then simultaneously, I like Ikea now.

913
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:47,000
But what you're seeing in this film is what the alien would have looked like in terms

914
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,400
of belonging in the scene.

915
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,920
If they'd given it the time it needed to be composited in properly.

916
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:53,920
Right, right, right, right.

917
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,640
Because what the technology is, is that the camera is fixed to a rail that's then computer

918
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,640
controlled.

919
00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,640
Right.

920
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,840
Or is then controlled in a way where the movement of the camera is recorded.

921
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:02,840
Oh, okay.

922
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:08,400
So you can then track on your puppet exactly how the camera should move for it to be right

923
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,560
in the angle.

924
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,560
I remember you explaining this a little bit in the Alien 3 episode and it blew my mind

925
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,560
then.

926
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,560
And I'm not going to lie, bud.

927
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,560
I said I was going to look into it.

928
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:17,560
I have not.

929
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,560
My mind is still just blown.

930
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,200
So thank you very much for that.

931
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,280
There's little bits in this film where he's perfecting his process that I adore.

932
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,800
The performances are incredible.

933
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,360
Insanely good.

934
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,360
Insanely good, dude.

935
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:35,920
My main takeaway that's not sort of like in-universe is the fight scenes and the choreography that's

936
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,320
gone into this because you're looking at it and it is, it's brutal.

937
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,920
Like it's like, it's genuinely, some points I'm like wince in because I'm like, oh my

938
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,380
God, the slaps and the smacks, like the sound effects that hit.

939
00:36:48,380 --> 00:36:52,040
You get both sides of the coin because there are some that you wince at except the ones

940
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,600
that are Jared Leto getting the shit kicked out of him.

941
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,600
Oh, that was amazing.

942
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,680
And then you're like, yes.

943
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,680
I was full.

944
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,080
I went full cheerleader at that point.

945
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:06,600
I was like, yes, baby face, get rid of angel face, whatever his name is, get him ugly.

946
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,000
Let's go buddy.

947
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,880
But the fight scenes and the choreography in this.

948
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:20,480
So Fincher, he hired Mike Runyard who he met when he was making the game because Mike Runyard

949
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,240
was the stunt double for Michael Douglas.

950
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:25,920
So Fincher hired him.

951
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,920
He's Michael Douglas's Chad Stahelski, but Michael Douglas didn't get shot.

952
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:30,920
Yeah.

953
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,920
Yeah.

954
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,480
That's sadly, I was going to say that's a very morbid way of putting it, but yeah, it's

955
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,600
exactly that.

956
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:43,560
So Fincher hired him as a stunt coordinator and in turn, Mike Runyard brought on board

957
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,840
martial artists, stunt men, Damon Caro and Jeff Imada.

958
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,240
I've got a couple of quotes here because we were talking about how gorgeous Brad Pitt

959
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:54,280
is in this, like just absolute godlike physique.

960
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,320
I've got a couple of quotes.

961
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,440
I've got one from Mike Runyard who is the stunt coordinator.

962
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,440
He says, Brad just turned up looking like that.

963
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,600
That was his deal.

964
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,560
I didn't do anything with him.

965
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,400
I saw him using hand weights on set, but that was it.

966
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,080
How infuriating is that as a quote, but also can you imagine being Brad Pitt and having

967
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,160
someone say that about you behind your back?

968
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,520
You're like, yeah, hand weights, buddy.

969
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,400
That's all it was.

970
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:29,160
Enjoy the perfect physique that people are still aiming to aspire 25 years later.

971
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,160
I've got a quote from Damon Caro, who was one of the martial arts experts.

972
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,440
He's a genetic freak.

973
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,160
Brad's got the ability to do whatever he wants.

974
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,760
He can build up, but for that one, he got lean.

975
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,640
While he was working out and lifting, he was restricting his calories.

976
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,720
I mean, he was shredded for that film.

977
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:54,840
Then I've got one more from Helena Bonham Carter who says, Brad just looked like a god

978
00:38:54,840 --> 00:39:01,920
in three dimensions, but was nauseatingly normal.

979
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,000
I adore Helena Bonham Carter as an actress.

980
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:11,080
There are certain archetypes of women that have just been ingrained in my psyche as what

981
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,080
attractive is.

982
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,640
Amanda Palmer from the Dresden Dolls.

983
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,960
Marla Singer in this film.

984
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,520
Jessica Rabbit.

985
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,000
Anything that Anya Taylor-Joy touches.

986
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,000
No, no.

987
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,720
I don't want to get a 30 quid Uber if I want to change from looking between her left eye

988
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:27,720
and her right eye.

989
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:30,000
How do you take that?

990
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,000
I can't swear.

991
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,800
I can't swear, but I'm full of rage.

992
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,800
I'm full of rage.

993
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,800
I can't swear.

994
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,800
I need you to know that I'm upset that you've just said that.

995
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,720
Helena Bonham Carter is an interesting one because she was on the fence about doing this

996
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:45,800
movie and I can see why.

997
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,720
There is an awful lot of misogyny in here.

998
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:48,720
Of course.

999
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:49,720
This would make any woman nervous.

1000
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:51,800
There's a reason for it though.

1001
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:57,200
There's a reason for it and it's because this is the stream of consciousness, mentalness

1002
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,520
of a threatened, emasculated man.

1003
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:08,200
In that, I think lies the key to how we can bring Fight Club forward and say, do you know

1004
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,040
what, Sigma Man of the Manosphere, this isn't your fucking film.

1005
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,040
Five.

1006
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,040
I don't care.

1007
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,520
It's worth it.

1008
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:21,600
Because what we've now punched through is there's no other punishment, Ben, until we

1009
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:22,600
get to like 10.

1010
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,960
Until we get to 10.

1011
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,280
So we can swear as much as we fucking want.

1012
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,280
Yeah, fuck it.

1013
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,280
You know what I mean?

1014
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,280
There's seven.

1015
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,280
It's a bit close.

1016
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,280
I'm a bit nervous.

1017
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,280
Okay.

1018
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,760
For how we can save Fight Club.

1019
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:34,760
Let's do it.

1020
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:35,760
Bring it back for me.

1021
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,760
Let's go.

1022
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,520
Is Marla Singer even real?

1023
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,520
Is Marla Singer real?

1024
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,640
Tyler Durden is a projectionist.

1025
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,640
Right.

1026
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,360
He's a projection of the narrator.

1027
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,440
Okay, I see what you mean.

1028
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:56,280
But the only other character, the only other main character we see is Marla, who magically

1029
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:01,000
appears at every single support group.

1030
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,000
Oh, okay.

1031
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,000
I see where this is headed.

1032
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,000
That the narrator.

1033
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Okay.

1034
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,080
Why is she even out the testicular cancer?

1035
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,360
She walks in accidentally and then she stays.

1036
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,360
Okay.

1037
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,760
Why is she being allowed to stay?

1038
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,760
Yeah, I get it.

1039
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:13,920
How does that make any sense?

1040
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:14,920
I did that.

1041
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,960
That is a weird one because I think it would have been pointed out to everyone.

1042
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,200
I've been so like, come on.

1043
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,200
Right.

1044
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,200
Come on.

1045
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,200
But also.

1046
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,200
And then when she starts going.

1047
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,200
Yeah.

1048
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,000
We stop seeing those support groups.

1049
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,040
Okay.

1050
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,360
That's a great point and I can't refute it.

1051
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,000
I have a rebuttal to this and it's going to annoy me if I don't get it off my chest right

1052
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,000
now.

1053
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:40,320
I can literally think of two scenes where other characters interact with Marla Singer

1054
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,320
outside of.

1055
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,200
Okay, that's a good point.

1056
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,560
I can think of lots of scenes where we see Tyler have physical fistfights with people.

1057
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,240
Okay, no, no, no.

1058
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:52,600
But it's assumed that that's the narrator doing it.

1059
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,240
Why is the same not true for Marla?

1060
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:59,280
Someone looks at Marla and addresses her and we go, oh yeah, she's definitely there.

1061
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,280
Okay.

1062
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:06,000
But the waiter in the restaurant, when the narrator is trying to get her to leave town,

1063
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,680
the waiter in the restaurant is talking to the narrator on one side of the table and

1064
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,400
then he takes Marla's order whilst looking at the other side of the table and acknowledging

1065
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,400
her order.

1066
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,280
Again, but the entire film is from the narrator's perspective.

1067
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,280
Oh, I hate this.

1068
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,960
We're seeing the scene presented as he pictures it, right?

1069
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,560
But what about the end one when she gets carried back into the building at the end, she's carried

1070
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,200
by like, by like, is it three or four of the members?

1071
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,120
We'll leave, we'll leave that one in the Marla is real pile.

1072
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,120
Okay.

1073
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,120
Okay.

1074
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,160
Let me just add a few more to the Marla is not real pile.

1075
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,800
But then if you're saying this, she could not be real and those members of Project Mayhem

1076
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,160
could also be imagination.

1077
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,720
That's a little messy and a little, I'm not sure if...

1078
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:48,560
Oh, that's, that's a little messy, but Marla Singer not being real is fine, is it?

1079
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,560
Are we on this train?

1080
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,880
Because, because, because, because, because.

1081
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,960
Okay.

1082
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,960
We first meet her at a testicular cancer support group where men are missing their testicles.

1083
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:58,960
Yeah.

1084
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,680
So when they come at Project Mayhem, they snatch up a CEO and they pull his trousers

1085
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:07,360
down and they go, don't, don't mess with service workers or we'll castrate you.

1086
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,040
When he snitches on Project Mayhem, I was really proud, really proud of you, mate.

1087
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,640
It's a great example, but now we're going to have to take your balls.

1088
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:14,640
Yeah.

1089
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,640
The coppers.

1090
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:21,880
In the thrift shop where Marla is selling clothes, men's jeans that she grabs out of

1091
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:22,880
the dryers.

1092
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,880
Yeah.

1093
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,400
She grabs up men's clothing, she takes it for sale and then she grabs the narrator by

1094
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,120
the balls and goes, yes, I'm selling some clothes.

1095
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,120
Okay.

1096
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,120
Okay.

1097
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,120
Grabbing the balls.

1098
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,720
I can agree with everything to do with Marla is, is balls related, right?

1099
00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:40,240
But she could have just grabbed random stuff out of a dryer.

1100
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:41,240
Maybe.

1101
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:42,240
Yeah, maybe.

1102
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:43,240
Maybe.

1103
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:44,240
I guess she just happened to walk.

1104
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,000
Cause that's a normal thing to do to just go in, start selling some clothes.

1105
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,800
You are filling me full of doubt, but I'm trying to hold onto my ideals and not let

1106
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:51,800
my world come undone.

1107
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,800
No, good.

1108
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,800
Keep fighting it.

1109
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:54,800
Keep fighting it.

1110
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,200
So when the narrator gets off his plane and he's missing his luggage, he says, I've got

1111
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,920
to go find a hotel and he's talking to Tyler and Tyler's like, yeah, okay.

1112
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,920
Go.

1113
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,920
Sure.

1114
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,920
But you just stay with me.

1115
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,160
Just ask me when we later go around to Marla's.

1116
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,160
Yeah.

1117
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,160
Where does she live?

1118
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,360
Is that a hotel?

1119
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,000
When the narrator steps outside, there's a big neon sign that says rooms.

1120
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,160
Oh, there is.

1121
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,160
It's a hotel.

1122
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,160
Okay.

1123
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,680
There's a hotel room where Marla lives and in that hotel room that Tyler and the narrator

1124
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,280
can get to incredibly quickly.

1125
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,280
Yeah.

1126
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,760
There's a giant dildo on the cameras.

1127
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,760
There is.

1128
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:35,760
Right.

1129
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,280
Cause Tyler walks in, he gives it a bobble.

1130
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,280
Right.

1131
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,800
And she turns to Tyler and she says, it's not a threat to you.

1132
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,920
Now Tyler is a coping mechanism who represents peak masculinity.

1133
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,680
So it wouldn't be a threat to him.

1134
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,000
Because he's everything that narrator wants to be.

1135
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,000
So it wouldn't be a threat to him.

1136
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,500
The narrator would be threatened.

1137
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:53,480
He would see that as a masculine.

1138
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,480
Oh, okay.

1139
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,080
Why does she have the dildo?

1140
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,360
Because she likes dildos, right?

1141
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,360
Sure.

1142
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,000
What's the reason that the narrator's luggage gets seized at the airport?

1143
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,800
Oh, shut up.

1144
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,720
Cause it's vibrating.

1145
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:07,800
Because it might have what in it?

1146
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,720
A vibrator or a dildo.

1147
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:12,120
He wouldn't have a vibrator.

1148
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,160
He wouldn't have a vibrating dildo in his suitcase, would he?

1149
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,160
Right.

1150
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,800
He has no memory of packing that.

1151
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,800
Oh, okay.

1152
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,840
I like this.

1153
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,920
This is like, this is, this is pickle in my brain, but I like it.

1154
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,800
Now the sex scenes.

1155
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:25,800
Yes.

1156
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:26,800
Constant.

1157
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,320
No matter where the narrator goes, he can hear them having violent rampant sex.

1158
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:32,320
Yes.

1159
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,320
Literally everywhere.

1160
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,320
He's gardening.

1161
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,440
And while he's doing that, he's gardening, he's cleaning, he's reading, right?

1162
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:43,400
He's doing self-improvement, which Tyler Durden says earlier in the film, self-improvement

1163
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,400
is masturbation.

1164
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,400
Oh my God.

1165
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,040
He's not reading or exercising.

1166
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:52,480
He's masturbating and he's imagining being a hyper masculine sex god who's fucking a

1167
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:58,800
woman who's broken and needy and doesn't represent a threat to the narrator's ego.

1168
00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,900
Okay.

1169
00:45:59,900 --> 00:46:06,880
Because she's a misogynistic representation of what the narrator imagines he would be

1170
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,400
if he were a woman.

1171
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,040
Oh my God.

1172
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,680
He feels like a failure as a man.

1173
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,280
He's emasculated, he's feminine and he creates Tyler, right?

1174
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,280
He does.

1175
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,280
He's the ultimate man.

1176
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:23,240
But is it possible that this unwell incel imagines what type of woman he'd be first?

1177
00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:27,120
That he hates but also kind of wants to fuck.

1178
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,480
And that the revulsion at the kind of woman that he would be, that society would see him

1179
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,080
as, forces him to create the opposite.

1180
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:40,620
And so he moves to Paper Street and a Paper Street is a real thing.

1181
00:46:40,620 --> 00:46:44,560
It's a street that's been planned by a city but has yet to be constructed.

1182
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:45,560
Okay.

1183
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,560
Okay.

1184
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,560
Okay.

1185
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,560
Alright.

1186
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,160
And then in the final shot, he kills Tyler.

1187
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,160
He does.

1188
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,480
And he's there in his big top and his little shorts.

1189
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,560
She's there in her fur coat and they hold hands.

1190
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:00,560
They do.

1191
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,960
And their silhouettes are really symmetrical.

1192
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:08,440
And their hands holding in the middle is separated by the line of the window that they stare

1193
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:14,200
at as they watch the twelve incredibly phallic skyscrapers crumble.

1194
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,800
Dude.

1195
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,840
This.

1196
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,760
Okay.

1197
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,680
Eh?

1198
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,360
Thank you for not telling me this for the last couple of days.

1199
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,280
Bike Club is a trans allegory.

1200
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,560
It has been incredibly...

1201
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,400
About a man debating his gender identity.

1202
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,520
This is actually, this is actually insane.

1203
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,520
This is actually insane.

1204
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,860
Thank you for not telling me this over the last couple of days.

1205
00:47:36,860 --> 00:47:43,020
It's been incredibly hurtful but also incredibly worthwhile because that genuinely has given

1206
00:47:43,020 --> 00:47:47,160
me a new film to watch whilst watching one of my favourite films.

1207
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,160
Now I have to say.

1208
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,160
That's mental.

1209
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,160
You're too kind.

1210
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:55,320
I don't think there is a definitive answer that she definitely isn't real.

1211
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,320
Of course not.

1212
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,360
There's a couple people there that are like, she doesn't have a reflection in the security

1213
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,680
mirror in the apartment.

1214
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,920
Wait, does she not?

1215
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:04,920
Apparently not, no.

1216
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:11,160
But I've looked at the scene and it's tenuous for me whether she would appear in that mirror.

1217
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,160
Right, okay.

1218
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,000
People are like, oh no, she should be there.

1219
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,720
I'm like, I don't know.

1220
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:22,600
I think what's more important is that there's enough there that we can grab it from a certain

1221
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:27,880
shaved headed sex trafficking peddler of lies.

1222
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,880
Yeah.

1223
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,200
This is my fucking film, Andrew.

1224
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,200
That's ten.

1225
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,200
That's ten.

1226
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,200
We're at ten.

1227
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,200
Alright.

1228
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,200
Worth it.

1229
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,200
Worth it.

1230
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,200
Worth it.

1231
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,200
Thousand percent.

1232
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,200
It's not your fucking film, Andrew.

1233
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,200
It's not.

1234
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:46,160
But to be honest man, I'm so happy that I've got a new film to watch.

1235
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,560
Like I'm genuinely, normally when we do these episodes I watch the film a couple times and

1236
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:51,840
I'm done with it for a few months.

1237
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:52,840
Do you know what I mean?

1238
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,040
I'll revisit it at some point if I enjoy it.

1239
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:01,680
I'm probably going to watch Fight Club again this week just with those ideas in mind because

1240
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:02,680
that's amazing.

1241
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:12,080
What a testament to a screenplay and a film that's been lovingly fought for tooth and

1242
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:19,760
nail that 25 years later you can extrapolate all of this stuff and an entire new storyline

1243
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,680
from this thing.

1244
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:22,680
It's nonsense.

1245
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:23,680
It's headcanon.

1246
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:24,680
But you know what?

1247
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:25,680
It's better than the alternative.

1248
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,760
I'm just going yeah, Tyler's mint.

1249
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,240
It's a great thought experiment.

1250
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:30,760
It's a super fun thing to do with the material.

1251
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,560
The fact that there is that much material there to play with.

1252
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:34,560
Insane.

1253
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,560
Insane.

1254
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,240
Now dear listeners, if you feel a bit like the narrator, you're feeling a little bit

1255
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:42,320
disconnected from the world, feeling a little bit like we've all been there.

1256
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,560
And I think what's important is we have all been there.

1257
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,920
And last week we asked Comment Corner to be a little bit different.

1258
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,360
We did.

1259
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,360
Has anyone come back?

1260
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,560
Has anyone come back to this?

1261
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,720
We actually have got three.

1262
00:49:55,720 --> 00:50:02,640
We had two a couple of days ago and we had a new one that neither of us have seen or

1263
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,640
read.

1264
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:10,440
So I'm going to say that this is okay to read.

1265
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,440
Happy National Poetry Day.

1266
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,840
You asked for people to write in and tell you how they were doing.

1267
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:20,960
So given it's National Poetry Day today, I wrote you a poem.

1268
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,280
How are you they ask?

1269
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,280
I'm fine I say.

1270
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,280
I'm good.

1271
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,280
I lie.

1272
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,280
I'm tired.

1273
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,880
A cautious truth.

1274
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,240
Because it's not okay to say.

1275
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:34,880
At night I can't sleep for worrying and each morning I'm not sure how to get out of bed.

1276
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,760
The days are a constant struggle of noise and chaos and need and must.

1277
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:39,760
No time to think.

1278
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,760
I cannot keep up.

1279
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,520
I can't stop as it keeps going without me.

1280
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,640
I'm falling constantly and falling everywhere.

1281
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:45,640
I'm tired.

1282
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,200
So tired of keeping going, but I can't stop.

1283
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,040
I never get up and I don't know how to human.

1284
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,040
I'm not enough.

1285
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,040
It's too hard.

1286
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,040
Why is it so hard?

1287
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,040
Is this all there is?

1288
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,040
I'm wasting life.

1289
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,800
It's not okay to say that and I don't even know if I want them to know.

1290
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,500
So I'm fine I smile.

1291
00:50:59,500 --> 00:51:00,500
How are you?

1292
00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:01,500
Wow.

1293
00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:05,680
Well that hit way harder than I thought it was going to.

1294
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:06,680
Jesus Christ.

1295
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:07,680
Right.

1296
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:08,680
That's incredible.

1297
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Right.

1298
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,680
Do you want to read our next one?

1299
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,320
Who sent this?

1300
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,200
We're going to, I'm going to, we're going to anonymize.

1301
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,760
I think for Uncle Ben's Spice, well for all of them, I think for Uncle Ben's Spicy Rice

1302
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,760
Corner.

1303
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,520
I think we'll keep it anonymous, but whoever wrote that in.

1304
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,520
Thank you.

1305
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,800
That is painfully close to the bone.

1306
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,040
Oh Ben, you're right, mate.

1307
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,040
Yeah.

1308
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,040
Do good.

1309
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,040
Oh, do good.

1310
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,040
It's just a poem, mate.

1311
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,040
We don't want such a woman about it.

1312
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,040
Oh, Christ.

1313
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,400
Get some alpha male energy, bro.

1314
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,200
This is so not Sigma of me.

1315
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,200
It's unreal.

1316
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,200
So not Sigma of you.

1317
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,200
I'm showing my omega.

1318
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,200
Do you know what I mean?

1319
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,200
We've got another one.

1320
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,200
Do you want to read the one that we got on September the 30th?

1321
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,200
I can try.

1322
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,200
I might need a moment.

1323
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,880
Do you want to do another one first?

1324
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,160
Well, I'll do one more.

1325
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,160
I'll do one more.

1326
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,760
Hello dudes.

1327
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,920
Just wanted to say a huge thanks for what you were doing.

1328
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,640
Film is my absolute comfort blanket in whatever form that may be and being able to continue

1329
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:12,020
and share that love in the form of podcasting in both the creative and listener sense is

1330
00:52:12,020 --> 00:52:14,360
awesome.

1331
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,680
What you're doing is intrinsically part of that, but also takes a moment to confront our

1332
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,560
mental dispositions as well, which is crucial.

1333
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:25,840
I have recently been struggling a lot as I've been displaced in my job due to redundancy,

1334
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,400
which has not only caused me to completely confront my worth as an individual, but also

1335
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,360
shattered my pride.

1336
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,240
It is hard to not take these things personally, even when I am completely aware.

1337
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:40,900
It's just a numbers game that I never cared if I was completely aware that it's a numbers

1338
00:52:40,900 --> 00:52:44,800
game that never cared if I was delivering above and beyond what was expected.

1339
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:49,080
But all of this just to say, I am not ashamed of my emotions.

1340
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,840
I try my hardest to confront and work through them.

1341
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,200
What you do with the podcast so openly is an extra comfort for me.

1342
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,200
So I thank you.

1343
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,380
The podcast is an absolute joy and a complete staple of my every day now.

1344
00:52:59,380 --> 00:53:00,880
Thank you very much for that.

1345
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:01,880
Jesus Christ, man.

1346
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,800
I'm just, I'm going to keep reading and Ben in the hope that I can get you to just turn

1347
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,080
inside out with pain.

1348
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:12,160
This is like the A, keep going buddy.

1349
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,440
Cause it's a, it's a struggle, but honestly you're smashing it.

1350
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,620
Good evening guys.

1351
00:53:17,620 --> 00:53:21,320
It's the first time I've actually managed to build up the courage to write to you.

1352
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,520
Therefore I need to thank you two very much for what you do.

1353
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,120
Most days I feel like I can't do anything but watch films and talk about them for hours

1354
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,880
and end, but thanks to you guys, I guess it might not be such a bad thing after all.

1355
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,000
I love that you chose to talk about cinema to figure things out for yourselves.

1356
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,720
Your chemistry and care for each other really warms my heart.

1357
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:44,080
This whole endeavor has proven that recovery looks different for everyone.

1358
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:49,720
I love how unexpected each episode turns out and it resonates with me a lot on a less meaningful

1359
00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:51,520
note and this isn't all caps.

1360
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:52,520
Okay.

1361
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,680
Rob, how the hell did you manage to make me want to rewatch the game?

1362
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:56,680
How?

1363
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:57,680
Just how?

1364
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,080
Have a good one.

1365
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,080
I wish you both well.

1366
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:02,080
Oh my God.

1367
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,080
P.S.

1368
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,240
By the way, I discovered, Oh, I'm so glad this is last.

1369
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:12,800
By the way, I discovered you with the chaplain retrospective.

1370
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,360
Love film, love film history and seeing you tackle such films out of the blue made me

1371
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:18,560
an instant fan.

1372
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,800
It makes it so much more meaningful that they found us through the chaplain series.

1373
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,520
Cause I know that you're like, I hate that we did it.

1374
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,520
It was a mistake.

1375
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:26,520
I shouldn't have done it.

1376
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,040
I loved it and clearly it resonates with the right people.

1377
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,040
You know what I mean?

1378
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,520
I'm glad that we spent three weeks of the podcast life.

1379
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:35,520
Oh my God.

1380
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:36,520
We'll listen.

1381
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,200
I'm glad we got at least one listener.

1382
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,200
Yeah.

1383
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,200
A thousand percent man.

1384
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,200
That's incredible.

1385
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,000
Well, welcome to the show from the chaplain series.

1386
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,000
Thank you for reaching out.

1387
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,680
It's incredible to the person before that.

1388
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:53,480
I'm sorry you're struggling right now, but, but honestly it gets easier and it gets better.

1389
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,120
You are absolutely killing it right now.

1390
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,120
Thank you for reaching out.

1391
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,120
It's amazing.

1392
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,640
I want to say to anyone, if that rang true for anyone, it rang true for us.

1393
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:05,080
But if you heard that and you're like, Oh damn, join the discord.

1394
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,080
We have a discord.

1395
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,080
You're not alone.

1396
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:11,840
We've got a whole community of people helping each other smile by doing nothing, but being

1397
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,160
mean about films.

1398
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,160
They're incredible.

1399
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:19,840
Honestly, we are so incredibly lucky to have that little community of people all chatting

1400
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,000
absolute waffle about the films that they've just watched.

1401
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,300
And it's in the most wholesome loving way possible.

1402
00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:25,300
It's incredible.

1403
00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:28,520
And some of the memes that absolutely destroy us are also incredible.

1404
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,520
You know what I mean?

1405
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:31,520
It's amazing.

1406
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:32,520
Get in touch, get in touch.

1407
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:33,520
That was comment corner.

1408
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:34,520
Send us an email.

1409
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,520
Everymovieveruk at gmail.com.

1410
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:42,760
Let us know how you're doing because I think as we can all see, none of us are doing great.

1411
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:43,880
And that's fine.

1412
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,720
It's completely fine.

1413
00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:51,380
It's okay to not be doing great because we can all be together, not doing great, helping

1414
00:55:51,380 --> 00:55:52,380
each other out.

1415
00:55:52,380 --> 00:55:53,380
Do you know what I mean?

1416
00:55:53,380 --> 00:55:54,520
We're all there for each other.

1417
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,400
That poem keeps creeping back on me, man.

1418
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:01,040
Well, I'm going to distract you now with a little David Fincher league table.

1419
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,580
Yeah, let's do something.

1420
00:56:03,580 --> 00:56:07,840
This film, when we say this film flopped, this film flopped.

1421
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:08,840
Okay.

1422
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,240
So how much did it make?

1423
00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:12,240
Worldwide.

1424
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:13,880
A hundred mil.

1425
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:14,880
Jesus Christ.

1426
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,880
Oh wait, it had a 60 mil budget.

1427
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:18,880
That's terrible.

1428
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:19,880
Right.

1429
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,880
Domestically, it made 40 million.

1430
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:22,880
Wow.

1431
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:23,880
That's painful.

1432
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:24,880
In America.

1433
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:25,880
That is painful.

1434
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,520
Bearing in mind, Seven had half the budget.

1435
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,000
It made three times as much.

1436
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,000
Jesus Christ.

1437
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,440
This cost 13 million less than the game.

1438
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,480
It made nine million less.

1439
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,720
Oh, God damn.

1440
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:44,200
And it reviewed about the same as the game as well.

1441
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:49,160
I've seen a couple of the reviews and they are choice-worthy.

1442
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,440
But the thing is, this found its life in DVD.

1443
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:52,440
It really did.

1444
00:56:52,440 --> 00:57:00,160
And it is now currently the number one most seen film on letterboxd.com.

1445
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,280
And it deserves to be wholeheartedly.

1446
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,400
It's got 4.124 million users.

1447
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:07,400
Amazing.

1448
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,400
Having logged the film.

1449
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,400
Amazing.

1450
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,400
Guess what the second one was?

1451
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:11,400
What?

1452
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,400
Joker, baby.

1453
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,400
Wow.

1454
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,400
No way.

1455
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:15,400
Yeah.

1456
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:16,400
Okay.

1457
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:17,400
That's awesome.

1458
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:18,400
Very, very similar films.

1459
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:19,680
I've got a good game for you, Ben.

1460
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:20,680
Hit me with a game.

1461
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,920
There's loads of trivia about this film that we just, we've not got the time to get into.

1462
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,520
So I'm just going to quiz you.

1463
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,520
Right.

1464
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,160
What's special about Brad Pitt's sunglasses in this film?

1465
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,040
Ooh, I'm not sure.

1466
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,040
They're blue blockers.

1467
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,040
Okay.

1468
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,040
Because they're red frames.

1469
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:42,000
They're specially designed glasses designed to block blue light, which is bad for sleep.

1470
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,000
Ooh.

1471
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,920
They're insomnia glasses.

1472
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:45,920
Yeah.

1473
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,920
Okay.

1474
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:52,120
What's special about the scene where Ed Norton first punches Brad Pitt?

1475
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,320
Um, I'm not sure.

1476
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,320
Genuine punch.

1477
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,320
Oh, really?

1478
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,320
In the ear?

1479
00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:59,320
Yeah.

1480
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:00,320
Oh.

1481
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,560
He was originally going to fake hit him, but before the scene, David Fincher pulled

1482
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,840
Norton aside and told him to hit him in the ear.

1483
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,040
Oh my God.

1484
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,160
Imagine being Brad Pitt after that take though.

1485
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,480
Once it was all filled with it, Fincher goes, cut.

1486
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,920
Now we're doing it 30 more times.

1487
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,840
What's special about Marla Singer's line after her and Tyler Durden first have sex?

1488
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,640
I think I know this one.

1489
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,280
I think I know this one.

1490
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,280
It's a good one.

1491
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:34,640
Because it was a different line that one of the producers was like, nope, take that out.

1492
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,400
Fincher switched it for the line.

1493
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,720
I haven't been fucked that good since grade school.

1494
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,680
And the producer was like, nope, put it back in.

1495
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,240
And he was like, too late mate.

1496
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,240
It's in the script.

1497
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:44,240
It's in the script.

1498
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,240
You made it worse.

1499
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:52,840
What's special about the scene or the specific shot where one of the space monkeys, members

1500
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,840
of project mayhem sprays a priest with a hose?

1501
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,760
I'm not sure.

1502
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,440
It's a good one.

1503
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,440
Camera shakes because the cameraman was unable to get the shot without laughing.

1504
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,000
He ended up just using one with a laugh in it.

1505
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,200
I love that so much.

1506
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,200
It's so good.

1507
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,200
I love that so much.

1508
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,080
What are you going to rate Fight Club at 10 then?

1509
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,080
Fat 10.

1510
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,080
Fattest 10.

1511
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,080
Fat 10.

1512
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,080
Fattest 10.

1513
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,720
I know we hated the game.

1514
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:21,720
Okay.

1515
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,600
The game's a great film, but it's just not for me.

1516
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,520
I think without the game, we don't get this film.

1517
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:28,520
I think they're cousins.

1518
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:34,160
They're like both Twilight Zone-y stripping the ways of what the character has.

1519
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:40,000
But the difference is in the game, we get a man who starts with everything and he's

1520
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:45,000
worried about losing it where his Fight Club works because it's a man who thinks he has

1521
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:50,360
nothing but kind of grows to fear losing what he didn't realize he had in the first place.

1522
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,360
Yeah, definitely.

1523
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:57,040
And with all the stuff that he kind of folds in from earlier bits in his career, this is

1524
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,200
for me the first...

1525
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,320
Not the first film, because Seven.

1526
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:01,320
Seven.

1527
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:05,440
It's just a damn fine film.

1528
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:11,480
And I can't ever say it's my favourite because that's been ruined.

1529
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:17,640
And it's not my favourite, but I do think it's a very funny, very well paced, very well

1530
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,720
put together middle finger to toxic masculine culture.

1531
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:26,640
It's only made better by the fact that toxic masculinity has adopted it as its sort of

1532
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:27,640
poster child.

1533
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,880
And it's the funniest thing to watch from the outside looking in, man.

1534
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:32,880
It's incredible.

1535
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,160
Unfortunately, buddy, I think that that's it.

1536
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,440
I think we're up for time.

1537
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,440
We're well over time.

1538
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,440
Yeah, we're well over.

1539
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:40,440
It was worth it though.

1540
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:45,280
What an incredible, incredible venture through the Fincherverse.

1541
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,600
And I, for one, am grateful that we did it, bud.

1542
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,640
Thank you everyone for hanging out with us this week.

1543
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,560
It has been an absolute pleasure.

1544
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,600
As always, you are loved.

1545
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:56,720
You matter.

1546
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,380
We would not exist without you being here.

1547
01:00:59,380 --> 01:01:00,880
Thank you so much.

1548
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,440
We love you dearly.

1549
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:07,480
Genuinely, thank you for providing a reason for us to feel okay talking about our feelings.

1550
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,880
We're not doing it for our own sake.

1551
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:10,880
It's a show.

1552
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:11,880
It's a show.

1553
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,320
The best form of revenge, Rob, is massive success.

1554
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:21,280
So if we can be vulnerable and make it a massive success, it's the best revenge, famously,

1555
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,480
because of three of the posters I've just ordered.

1556
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:25,480
Okay.

1557
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:31,760
I'm beginning to regret putting you in a position where you were able to read this stuff.

1558
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,580
Ben is now going to wrap up the thoughts, themes and feelings of this movie to thank

1559
01:01:35,580 --> 01:01:38,320
you for spending an hour of your week with us, especially at the start of the week.

1560
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:43,200
So it's going to be a little Monday motivation pep talk that he's going to draw up from

1561
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,320
the pages of this script while I just tell you to do what society always tells you to

1562
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:54,120
do and this film tells you to do, which is consume.

1563
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,640
Don't underestimate me.

1564
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,760
I know more than I say.

1565
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:02,920
I think more than I speak and I notice more than you realize.

1566
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,040
Yeah, that's right, bro.

1567
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,040
It's Sigma, bro.

1568
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:08,200
You know what I mean?

1569
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,040
Don't you dare show your emotions, bro.

1570
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,480
Girls are kind of gross, huh?

1571
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,600
Girls are gross, huh?

1572
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,520
Like who wants to be around that beta stuff?

1573
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,520
Just be lonesome, bro.

1574
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:22,520
Sigma, bro.

1575
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:27,840
I had a really funny bit, but honestly, that poem's changed me fundamentally as a human

1576
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:28,840
person.

1577
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:34,440
It's the most beautiful thing that's ever been sent to us and I'm genuinely, I'm cherishing

1578
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:35,440
that.

1579
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:36,440
Just, you know what I mean?

1580
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,440
Getting out of bed is a big...

1581
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:44,000
We're gonna have lots of大家!