1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,560 Do you know Hugh Edwards, the UK news presenter, who announced the death of the Queen and does 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:13,840 all of the mega important announcements like election coverage and all that stuff? 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,400 You know he's been found guilty of manufacturing child pornography on an industrial scale? 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,400 What the fuck? 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,280 But who broke the news? 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:22,720 The Sun of all places. 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,720 Wow. 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:24,720 Yeah, awful. 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,680 But I did think, one silver lining, Prince Andrew managed to get the death of his mum 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,680 announced by a mate. 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,280 Oh, that's what, you know what I mean? 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,440 That's nice that is man. 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,840 Like when one of you eats, all of you eats. 14 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:42,280 Let's not use that analogy ever again. 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:53,680 Hello everyone and welcome to the Every Movie Ever podcast. 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,880 My name is Ben Groves. 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,440 My name is Rob McFarlane and welcome to the show, a movie podcast slash mental health 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:06,960 check in for two broken brained best friends talking around their problems, but not about 19 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:09,040 their problems whilst laughing at movies. 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,040 Not yet. 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,040 Yeah, you know, yeah. 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,660 Whilst laughing at movies. 23 00:01:12,660 --> 00:01:17,120 But given that this is a thinly veiled mental health check in Ben, I feel like more important 24 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,400 than what we're doing. 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,760 How are you doing? 26 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,800 I am good buddy. 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,800 I'm doing good. 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,480 It's, I've got a banging headache. 29 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,400 It's a thousand and two degrees in this fucking room. 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,400 Yeah. 31 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,400 But other than that, I'm like, I've been working really hard recently on my whole self worth 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,400 thing. 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:38,400 Oh yeah. 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,400 I've got this, I've got this bad habit of like tying all of my, see, see. 35 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:42,400 There we go. 36 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,400 I'm getting up there man. 37 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,400 I'm getting up there. 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,400 You know what I mean? 39 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,240 Was a quid, now it's three. 40 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,400 Now you're almost the worth a gas station sandwich. 41 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:51,400 There you go. 42 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,160 You know what I mean? 43 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,400 Bacon and bacon, extra mayo. 44 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:00,040 No, I always, I've got this bad habit of tidying myself worth to sort of like shit that doesn't 45 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,040 really matter. 46 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,040 Yeah. 47 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,040 You know what I mean? 48 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,800 I've done it in the past with jobs, with relationships, with like, it's just, it's all external stuff. 49 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,240 And if I think it was like a thing of, if I externalize it, then it's not my fault. 50 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,240 You know what I mean? 51 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,240 I can just deal with it. 52 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,240 Totally, totally. 53 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,520 Whereas recently I'm being way more honest about my boundaries, but with myself. 54 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,760 You brought self esteem back in house rather than outsourcing it to China. 55 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:22,760 Yeah. 56 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:23,760 See? 57 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,800 But now I'm, now I do feel like I'm paying over the odds. 58 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,440 I mean, I know myself quite well. 59 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,440 You are. 60 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,520 I feel like it's not worth it. 61 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:31,520 Human rights are expensive. 62 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:32,520 That's what I'm saying, man. 63 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:33,520 You know what I mean? 64 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,520 All this bitch wants to do is sleep and eat. 65 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:37,520 Fucking rude. 66 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,160 But yeah, self love, man. 67 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,320 I'm feeling all right. 68 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,320 How are you? 69 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,320 I, it is hot as hell today. 70 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,920 It is hotter than Hugh Edwards afterlife. 71 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:50,640 And I'm so fucking glad you said afterlife. 72 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:51,640 Holy shit. 73 00:02:51,640 --> 00:02:55,520 I was going to take a severe left turn very early in the show. 74 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:56,960 Fuck me. 75 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:57,960 I was mid vape. 76 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,480 I nearly fucking choked. 77 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:00,480 You know what I mean? 78 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,160 Uh, I, do you know what? 79 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,440 When I, when I wrote that, that pithy little quip, I hadn't even considered that you would 80 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,480 think that there would be a different ending to that. 81 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:10,480 Yeah. 82 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,480 I thought you were going to say hard drive. 83 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,880 And I was going to be like, well, this, this show's ruined. 84 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:14,880 We need to start over. 85 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:15,880 Yeah. 86 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:16,880 Don't worry, mate. 87 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,280 I'm not, you're not Mr. Beast. 88 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,280 Don't worry. 89 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,280 Thank you. 90 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,600 So what were you saying, Ava? 91 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,000 I'm just warm man. 92 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,160 And like I'm a goth. 93 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,760 I don't do well in the heat. 94 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,240 I don't own anything but thick black jeans and thick black t-shirts. 95 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,920 I'm sitting here in black jeans and a black fucking t-shirt right now, dude. 96 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,520 My family wanted to go swimming and I'm like, I can go swimming with you in a week when 97 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,520 my swimming shorts arrive from eBay. 98 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,440 I don't own any pre-owned. 99 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:47,960 You've seen a goth in a swimming pool. 100 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:48,960 It's not, it's not. 101 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,960 No, you don't want to. 102 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,720 I mean, you say that. 103 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:52,720 Depends on the goth. 104 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:53,720 You say that. 105 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:54,720 Yeah. 106 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:55,720 Yeah, it does. 107 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,040 You ever seen a male goth in a swimming pool? 108 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,480 You don't want to. 109 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,400 I mean, again, you know what I mean? 110 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,400 All right. 111 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,400 Well, in my case, I just look like latter day Robert Smith who's drowned. 112 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,400 I'm fucking in it, man. 113 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,280 I'm in that pool. 114 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,160 Swift high five. 115 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,320 What are we doing this week, Ben? 116 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,560 This week, buddy, we're back on the alien train. 117 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,400 No one can hear a scream. 118 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:19,680 Oh no. 119 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,280 Apparently someone can somewhere. 120 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:23,280 Maybe. 121 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:24,280 Probably. 122 00:04:24,280 --> 00:04:25,280 Probably. 123 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:26,280 Can you? 124 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:29,000 Let us know in the discord. 125 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,400 We're doing, buddy, the fourth installment of the original alien franchise. 126 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,400 We are. 127 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,160 Alien resurrection. 128 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,280 Now we cover every movie in every franchise. 129 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:47,160 And so you could accuse us of picking franchises that have got great titans of cinema at the 130 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:53,400 early stages and a relevant bullshit in the later stages. 131 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,840 And you could say that we're just covering this because we had to cover the first two 132 00:04:57,840 --> 00:04:59,320 or three, right? 133 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:00,320 No. 134 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,320 Right. 135 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,320 Allow me to disagree. 136 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:03,320 Allow me to retort. 137 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,520 Allow me to rebuff those accusations. 138 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:06,520 Rebut yourself, buddy. 139 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:07,520 Go for it. 140 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:12,580 This franchise has been through the highest of highs and this film may represent the lowest 141 00:05:12,580 --> 00:05:17,960 of its lows, but this franchise is about to roar back to life because we are going to 142 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,960 be covering Romulus, baby. 143 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:21,960 Yeah. 144 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,720 I mean, it's Fedee Alvarez. 145 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:24,720 I'm excited, mate. 146 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:25,720 I don't shut up. 147 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:26,720 I'm mad excited. 148 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,920 There's like a 70% chance he's just going to fucking ruin the franchise. 149 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:30,920 It's more alien. 150 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:31,920 And frankly, Ben, I don't get- 151 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:32,920 So was resurrection. 152 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:33,920 And look what happened there. 153 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,200 If I hadn't seen it before and I saw it for the first time in the cinema at 1997, I might 154 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,000 have gone, ah, it was all right. 155 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:46,440 It's only over time and repeated viewings that I've gone, oh no, oh no. 156 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:51,320 Even if Fedee Alvarez's Alien Romulus is bad, I'm not going to be a hundred percent sure 157 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,360 of that by the time the credits roll on my first watch. 158 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:55,360 I'm going to go- 159 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,360 I will. 160 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,360 Oh. 161 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,360 I will. 162 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,360 A thousand percent. 163 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,360 That man's ruined too much for me. 164 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,360 I'm like, okay, I'm done. 165 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,200 Like I checked out as soon as he shit on the Evil Dead franchise, right? 166 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,120 As soon as he took out all charisma and all subtlety and all nuance from that entire franchise 167 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,920 and just went, blood, she's going to kill a dog. 168 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,720 Also, she's now the hero. 169 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:14,720 It's like, fuck you, man. 170 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:15,720 Yeah, yeah. 171 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:21,280 We covered all the Evil Dead films and I remember your burning anger when we got to Fedee Alvarez. 172 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:25,080 I'm excited for Romulus, but I'm also, I'm having very reserved feelings about it. 173 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,120 I've got a complicated relationship with Fedee Alvarez. 174 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,120 He doesn't know I exist. 175 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,300 I fucking despise him. 176 00:06:29,300 --> 00:06:30,300 It gets complicated. 177 00:06:30,300 --> 00:06:31,300 Yeah. 178 00:06:31,300 --> 00:06:34,840 I think he turns franchises inside out and he goes, what if we took all that beautiful 179 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:37,680 subtext that hinted out layer? 180 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:38,680 Yeah. 181 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,280 And just made it incredibly simplistically obvious. 182 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:44,280 Yeah. 183 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:47,400 What about if we took like the allegories and punched you in the face with them? 184 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,400 Right. 185 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:49,400 Exactly. 186 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 187 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,800 So it's no longer a nice horror film that has a subtext. 188 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,960 The subtext is the horror. 189 00:06:54,960 --> 00:07:01,240 And I can almost imagine that I'm going to see a human being have penetrative sex with 190 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,640 the xenomorph in Alien Romulus. 191 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,920 And I'm curious, color me curious. 192 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:08,920 Okay. 193 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:09,920 All right. 194 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:10,920 But enough of that. 195 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:11,920 We've not got time. 196 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:12,920 We've got too much to go on with this week. 197 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:19,320 We're going to cover how Fox picked itself up after the critical and commercial roasting 198 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,600 that Alien 3 got. 199 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,440 How the hell did they convince Sigourney Weaver to come back? 200 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,160 Where everyone's favorite problematically abusive writer, Joss Whedon was trying to 201 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,160 go. 202 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:34,680 And the original French art house director Jean-Pierre Junet worked completely against 203 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:35,680 Josh's ideas. 204 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,680 Joss sticks. 205 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:44,640 And the state of the franchise today, after languishing in crossover hell for decades, 206 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,280 we approach the upcoming terror of Romulus. 207 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,280 Romulus! 208 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:54,520 I don't know why I've defaulted to pronouncing Romulus like pigs in space from The Muppets, 209 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,520 but yeah, maybe that's what it will be. 210 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:57,520 Only time will tell. 211 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:05,120 If I said to you, Ben, that when this film came out in 1997, it cost $70 million. 212 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,120 Where? 213 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Right. 214 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,120 Where? 215 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,800 You've got to remember, CGI was new. 216 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:16,280 They were doing the CGI in this film on computers about as powerful as the ones that we have 217 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,600 in our pockets. 218 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:22,800 They were like, this server farm has got a two gigahertz processor. 219 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,480 And they're like, wow. 220 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:26,480 How many cores? 221 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:27,480 One. 222 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:28,760 How much RAMs it got? 223 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,760 Yes. 224 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,200 Should we do all the film in CGI? 225 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,200 Yeah. 226 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,200 Yeah. 227 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:36,200 Yeah. 228 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,680 But what if I told you that it made 161 million? 229 00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:40,680 Okay. 230 00:08:40,680 --> 00:08:41,680 That's not too bad. 231 00:08:41,680 --> 00:08:42,680 That's way more than I was expecting. 232 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:43,680 Right. 233 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:44,680 But you always say that. 234 00:08:44,680 --> 00:08:48,880 But do you remember last last time we were on Aliens and I was like, let's adjust that 235 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:49,880 for inflation. 236 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:50,880 Do it. 237 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,160 If Dune 4 came out. 238 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,160 Yeah. 239 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,160 And made 300 mil. 240 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,160 Okay. 241 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,160 Yeah. 242 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,160 That's pretty good. 243 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,480 But that would be like weekend though, right? 244 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:00,920 That would be like opening weekend. 245 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:01,920 In a weekend. 246 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,680 That's this is its total income. 247 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:04,680 300 mil. 248 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:05,680 I mean. 249 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:10,480 Alien and Aliens were some of the biggest films to ever hit sci fi. 250 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,480 Yeah. 251 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,480 And the fourth one in the series makes 300 mil. 252 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,480 Nah. 253 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,480 Okay. 254 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,480 You know, fine. 255 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,840 I'd say it's a flop. 256 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:25,440 But hey, I mean, 300 mil is a massive commercial disappointment and still more than I think 257 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,440 this film deserves. 258 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:28,440 Yes. 259 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,840 Do I agree wholeheartedly? 260 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,320 Now that being said, we have received some feedback from some of our new listeners who 261 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,780 joined us for the Alien series that we kind of front load our criticism and then we come 262 00:09:40,780 --> 00:09:41,780 with the good stuff. 263 00:09:41,780 --> 00:09:42,780 Right. 264 00:09:42,780 --> 00:09:43,780 Okay. 265 00:09:43,780 --> 00:09:50,320 I'm a big believer in if you haven't got anything nice to say, say nothing. 266 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,320 Thanks for joining us this week guys. 267 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,040 It's been an absolute pleasure hanging out with you. 268 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,640 We will be back at some point. 269 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,520 I think there is, there is, I can save this. 270 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:01,520 I can spin this. 271 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,520 All right. 272 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:03,520 All right. 273 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,200 I can spin this because I got to be honest, this film means fuck all to me. 274 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,700 This is my Alien 3. 275 00:10:07,700 --> 00:10:10,640 You know, you watched Alien 3 and you're like, what is this? 276 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:11,640 Yes. 277 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,440 All the things I love about Alien 3 absent from this film. 278 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:15,440 Okay. 279 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,480 So the experience you had watching Alien 3, I had watching this. 280 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:20,480 All right. 281 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,240 So I had a slightly different relationship with this film growing up. 282 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,240 Right. 283 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:30,720 I was, so as a kid, obviously Alien and Aliens was shown to me at a very young age and I 284 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:31,800 was like invested in them. 285 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:32,800 They were fun. 286 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,120 They were, they were genuinely like, oh, spooky, scary. 287 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,120 It's important. 288 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,300 You should know what's possible out there, you know, in the science world. 289 00:10:40,300 --> 00:10:42,400 And then Alien 3 came along and fucking ruined it. 290 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,880 And I was like, okay, that's fine. 291 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,020 You know, I can, I can just like the first two films. 292 00:10:46,020 --> 00:10:50,200 And then this one came out and I was like, I remember watching it. 293 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,480 I think I was watching it with my brother. 294 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,120 It might've been my sister. 295 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,160 Apologies to whomever ever listens to this. 296 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,160 They don't. 297 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,400 There's no core memory. 298 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:05,280 I think it was my brother and we watched it and it was just one of those films where you 299 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,040 sit and you rip into it for a bit. 300 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,040 So you had a really good time with it. 301 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,520 You have fun and it's light and it's breezy and it doesn't matter anymore because it's 302 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:13,520 already dead. 303 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,520 Exactly. 304 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,160 You're just playing with a corpse. 305 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,160 Exactly. 306 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,200 You're just, you're just slapping about in the organs at this point. 307 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,200 You know what I mean? 308 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,200 Just pitter pattering in the intestines. 309 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,200 Like it's just, it's just a fun laugh. 310 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,200 It's a freeze anymore for you, bud. 311 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,200 Yeah. 312 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,200 Thanks man. 313 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,200 Yeah. 314 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,200 Nice. 315 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,200 You do or don't like this film. 316 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,200 I can't tell now. 317 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,120 Well, if we, if we're getting criticized on putting the critique heavy at the beginning, 318 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,120 I'm going to spin it as well, mate. 319 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,600 I'm going to go out on a limb. 320 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:36,600 Yeah. 321 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,240 I'm going to say that this is your favorite Alien film of all time. 322 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,000 It might be my second. 323 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Fuck off. 324 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,000 It's definitely my third favorite, but it might be my second. 325 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,040 I mean, it's offensive either way to me. 326 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,360 This has to be your fourth favorite. 327 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,720 Otherwise I hate you. 328 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,200 No, no, no, no, no, no. 329 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,200 Hear me out. 330 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,200 Hear me out. 331 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,200 Right. 332 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,200 I love comic books. 333 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:57,200 I like comic books because it's very straightforward. 334 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,200 It's to the point. 335 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,200 Yeah. 336 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,160 All of the, all of the dialogue is very bap bap bap bap. 337 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,160 Porny. 338 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,160 It has to be said. 339 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,160 Yes. 340 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,160 It's like cheesy dialect. 341 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,880 It doesn't exist in, in real world. 342 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:12,040 It's a miracle that Ron Perlman doesn't walk onto that basketball court and go, is that 343 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,040 a lemon whore? 344 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,040 Yeah, exactly. 345 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,040 It's, it's, it's that. 346 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,040 Right. 347 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,600 So I like that goofy element of it. 348 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,680 I like the fact that it's just a weird pace. 349 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:23,480 It's a weird tone. 350 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,320 It's just an odd film and it makes me happy to watch it. 351 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,800 Cause I'm like, it's so stupid. 352 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:29,800 Yeah. 353 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,800 Fair. 354 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:31,800 Just nothing means anything anymore. 355 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,120 No, there's no sense here. 356 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,580 We're not paying attention to the law. 357 00:12:34,580 --> 00:12:36,320 No one gives a shit about the last film. 358 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,480 And it's just sort of like a breath of fresh air to go, you know what? 359 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,480 Fuck it. 360 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,480 Fuck it. 361 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,480 Yeah. 362 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:42,480 It's dead. 363 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,480 It's ruined. 364 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,480 I'm just going to play around now. 365 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:45,480 Yeah. 366 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:46,480 Well, tell you what, let's drop a spoiler warning. 367 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:47,480 Go on. 368 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,480 I'm going to drop a spoiler warning. 369 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,480 All right. 370 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:50,480 So I say spoiler. 371 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,480 Spoilers. 372 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:52,680 This film is 25 years old. 373 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:56,480 I wouldn't date it, but if I was drunk enough, I might spend a night around theirs. 374 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,840 It's 25 Rob. 375 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,720 It's practically a child. 376 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,040 What? 377 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,040 You need to calm down. 378 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,040 Fucking what is it? 379 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,040 Huey Lewis of the news. 380 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,040 Who is it? 381 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,040 Prince and the revolution. 382 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,040 Yeah, that's it. 383 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,040 Prince and the sexual revolution. 384 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,040 Sure. 385 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,040 Sure. 386 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,040 There you go. 387 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,040 Dora the sexual explorer. 388 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,040 No, there you go. 389 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,040 That's arguably more nonsense than that. 390 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,760 There you go. 391 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,280 I assure you I've read the article. 392 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,160 It really isn't. 393 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,480 But this is different. 394 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,480 All right. 395 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,800 This isn't like us telling you how Wolverine dies in Deadpool three. 396 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:30,800 All right. 397 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,800 This film has been out for ages. 398 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:32,800 Yeah. 399 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:33,800 Yeah. 400 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:34,800 So just deal with it. 401 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:35,800 Exactly. 402 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:36,800 We're all grownups here. 403 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:37,800 There you go. 404 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,800 Probably. 405 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:39,800 Also, Deadpool three is quite fun. 406 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:40,800 Haven't seen it, mate. 407 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,800 Right. 408 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:46,600 I've written this week's breakdown. 409 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,680 It's to the point is what I'll say about it. 410 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:50,680 You say that. 411 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:51,680 I've got a page full of text. 412 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:56,640 It's the one part of the show that's pre written and it might be all the show this week because 413 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,240 no, I just get carried away. 414 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:59,240 It's not that much. 415 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,680 It's not that much, but this film's mental. 416 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:04,280 It's such an and then and then and then. 417 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,280 Oh yeah. 418 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,280 Yeah. 419 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:07,280 It's one of those. 420 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,480 It's one of those sheets of paper where everyone writes a line of the story. 421 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,480 Yes. 422 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:11,480 And then you fold it over. 423 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:12,480 And it's like, why? 424 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:13,480 Why is this now? 425 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,480 Yeah. 426 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,480 Oh, no reason. 427 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,440 I said I always I'll come back to this point. 428 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,440 I'll come back to this point. 429 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,440 Do it. 430 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,440 The point I should have made nearly in three. 431 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,840 But it's it people complain about alien three doing. 432 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:25,840 I'll get to it. 433 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:26,840 I'll get to it. 434 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:27,840 Part one. 435 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:28,840 Ripley's in time. 436 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:29,840 Oh, quite nice. 437 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:30,840 Right. 438 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,560 It's like ripples in time, but not right. 439 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:37,320 Two hundred years after Ellen Ripley's death, the United Systems military aboard the spaceship 440 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,160 USM, Oregon successfully clones her. 441 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:46,040 This eighth iteration Ripley eight is created to extract the alien queen embryo still inside 442 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,040 her. 443 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,240 The scientists led by Dr. Wren and Dr. Geddermann. 444 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,520 Oh, well, he comes up later. 445 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,520 Plan to breed the xenomorphs and military purposes. 446 00:14:55,520 --> 00:15:03,040 However, Ripley eight emerges as a hybrid of enhanced strength, reflexes and acidic blood 447 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,040 due to the alien DNA. 448 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,040 Sure. 449 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,960 He's just gone through the menopause because that's. 450 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,800 Oh, could you imagine? 451 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,280 As she begins to remember fragments of her past life, she struggles with her identity 452 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,840 and her connection to the xenomorphs. 453 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:23,360 Simultaneously, a group of mercenaries, including Elgin, Cole, Johnna, Vries and Christie Hillard 454 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,360 Purvis. 455 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:25,800 We don't need to remember all these. 456 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,560 I certainly fucking didn't know they arrive on the Oregon. 457 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,360 They deliver kidnapped humans to serve as hosts for the aliens. 458 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,120 They're not really aware of the true extent of the USM's experiments. 459 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,800 Call, however, she's played by Winona Ryder. 460 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,760 You do need to remember her. 461 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,320 She's secretly an android because we've never seen that before. 462 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:44,320 No. 463 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,200 With a mission to stop the alien project. 464 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,200 Right. 465 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,680 She attempts to assassinate Ripley eight, but fails in a weirdly homoerotic scene. 466 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,080 Kind of is. 467 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,360 The xenomorphs are that comes up later as well. 468 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,280 When the xenomorphs inevitably escape containment because we haven't seen this film three fucking 469 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,280 times already. 470 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,280 I know, right? 471 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,520 The stage is set for chaos and a fight for survival in alien back here again. 472 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,400 Yeah, right. 473 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,840 But to X, you know, morphs gonna give it to you. 474 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:11,840 I can't come in that. 475 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,280 I can't go on that. 476 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,560 No, no, because the xenomorph is a is a Zed sound. 477 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:18,840 Yeah, it would have to be said. 478 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:19,840 Go and give it to you said. 479 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:20,840 Go and get it. 480 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,080 No, it's X, the enamorph going to give it to you. 481 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,080 Okay. 482 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,080 Just let me be. 483 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,080 Fuck you. 484 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,080 All right. 485 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,800 Yeah, I thought we were leaving the critical shit until later. 486 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,800 That's true. 487 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:31,800 Sorry. 488 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:32,800 Thanks. 489 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,800 I'm hating on your fandom. 490 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,320 I know. 491 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,720 With the xenomorphs free, the Auriga descends into chaos. 492 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:40,720 Shocker. 493 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,280 The aliens swiftly overrun the ship. 494 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,280 Shocker. 495 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,280 Killing the crew. 496 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,280 Shocker. 497 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,280 Shocker. 498 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,280 And spreading terror. 499 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,080 Now that does surprise me because if honest, I didn't even think Al Qaeda were around in 500 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,080 1997. 501 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,080 I know, right? 502 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,080 Let alone hiring xenomorphs. 503 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,080 God, it's insane. 504 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,400 Obviously, sorry if you're a member of the xenomorph race and feel like being compared 505 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:01,400 to Al Qaeda. 506 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,400 Apologies on our behalf. 507 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,400 You know what I mean? 508 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:04,400 That's our bad. 509 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,400 Yeah. 510 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:10,880 Ripley 8 and the mercenaries are forced to join forces navigating the infested corridors 511 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,400 to find a way off the doomed vessel. 512 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,960 As they progress, they discover the extent of the experiments, including failed Ripley 513 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,040 clothes. 514 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,040 That bit which is like, kill me. 515 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,040 Yeah. 516 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,040 Fucking great. 517 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,320 It's a rare ray of light. 518 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:25,320 Oh, beautiful. 519 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,760 Showcasing the monstrous efforts to weaponize the xenomorphs. 520 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:34,320 Ripley 8's alien instincts and abilities become increasingly evident, causing tension and 521 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,160 mistrust amongst the group. 522 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,040 However, her knowledge proves invaluable in combating the aliens. 523 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:46,720 Cole reveals her true nature as an advanced synthetic designed to prevent the misuse of 524 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:47,720 the xenomorphs. 525 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,080 Makes no fucking sense. 526 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,080 Stupid. 527 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,640 And she forms an uneasy alliance with Ripley 8. 528 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,600 The group plans to escape using the mercenary ship, the Betty. 529 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,280 But first, they must reach it. 530 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:06,800 Aldi Auriga drifts towards Earth on a collision course, threatening global catastrophe. 531 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,760 This whole thing is fucking stupid. 532 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:10,760 Part 3. 533 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,840 Weaver save the queen. 534 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,160 She ain't no human being. 535 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,160 Right? 536 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,360 That's pretty good, man. 537 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:16,360 Well done. 538 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:17,360 Thanks. 539 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:18,360 Rhyming through dyslexia. 540 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:19,360 That's the name of an educational album. 541 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:20,360 Definitely. 542 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:23,080 Educational hip hop album for nine year olds. 543 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,360 For dyslexics, actually. 544 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:25,360 Okay. 545 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:26,360 Same thing. 546 00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:29,120 In the final act, the survivors face their greatest challenge. 547 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:33,820 They encounter the alien queen, which has developed a new reproductive method, giving 548 00:18:33,820 --> 00:18:37,560 birth to a grotesque hybrid creature called the newborn. 549 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:38,560 Yeah. 550 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,160 You've written monstrous, but this comical being with human traits, tits and nips and 551 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:48,200 alien traits, tits and nips, sees Ripley 8 as its mother. 552 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:54,120 In a dramatic and intense confrontation, Ripley 8 uses her unique connection to the aliens 553 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:59,200 to lure the newborn into a trap, ultimately destroying it to protect humanity. 554 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,200 Yes. 555 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:05,000 The remaining survivors, including Ripley 8 and Cole, manage to board the Betty. 556 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,360 They set the Auriga on a collision course with Earth, ensuring the ship's destruction 557 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:12,320 and the elimination of the alien threat. 558 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,940 As they watch the Auriga explode from the safety of their ship, Ripley 8 and Cole look 559 00:19:16,940 --> 00:19:21,040 out over a desolate, futuristic Earth contemplating their future. 560 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:26,800 Ripley 8, torn between her human and alien nature, faces an uncertain path ahead in a 561 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,440 world still grappling with the consequence of humanity's relentless pursuit of power 562 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,440 and control. 563 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:33,440 Ben? 564 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,440 Yes, buddy? 565 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,440 I mean, I... 566 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:36,440 I was reaching. 567 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,440 I was reaching. 568 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:44,040 Yeah, because literally, an alien newborn gets sucked out of a bullet hole. 569 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,040 Yes. 570 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,960 Like it's the worst episode of fucking Fake Taxi ever. 571 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,320 The best episode of Fake Taxi ever. 572 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,160 All right, Hugh Edwards, it's young. 573 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:59,440 And then they look out a window and go, what now? 574 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,860 And she goes, Dunno. 575 00:20:00,860 --> 00:20:01,860 And then the film ends. 576 00:20:01,860 --> 00:20:02,860 Yeah. 577 00:20:02,860 --> 00:20:03,860 Oh wait, did you not watch the director's cut? 578 00:20:03,860 --> 00:20:04,860 Yeah, I did. 579 00:20:04,860 --> 00:20:08,080 And they sat on a ruined Paris and went, oh, what now? 580 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,080 And they went, Dunno. 581 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,440 But they were fighting all that time to protect Earth. 582 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,920 And then it was like, oh, Earth is already a desert. 583 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:14,920 So what the fuck were we doing? 584 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,680 Well, you say fighting to protect Earth. 585 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:22,160 When that ship crash lands, I was expecting, like, I was expecting, you know, because Earth 586 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,640 is quite big, I reckon. 587 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:24,640 Yeah, yeah, no, yeah. 588 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,200 I've walked around a fair bit of it and I reckon the Earth's pretty big. 589 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:34,080 The spaceship probably looked to me about the size of your average shopping center. 590 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,200 Okay, I'll agree. 591 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,800 So not as big as Earth. 592 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,480 Not as big, right? 593 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,360 At least half the size. 594 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:41,360 Sure. 595 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:45,840 Except for the shot of it crashing into Earth where it literally wipes out a continent. 596 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,960 Big shit, man. 597 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,040 It's like someone's thrown a golf ball at an orange. 598 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,680 Look, Walmart bought Wayland and therefore they're just shopping centers now. 599 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,680 You know what I mean? 600 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:58,680 They're just floating shopping centers. 601 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,680 It's wall-y. 602 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,960 It's wall-y, but better. 603 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:05,520 I hate that Walmart buying Wayland-Yutani is canonically true because of this. 604 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,520 Yeah, I know, right? 605 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,440 Right, so I'm going to set a positive tone. 606 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,440 Okay. 607 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,520 Because I got a whole bunch of stuff about how this happened. 608 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,520 Yep. 609 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,520 I got a whole bunch of stuff about why this happened and I got a whole bunch of stuff 610 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:17,640 about how I feel about it. 611 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:18,640 I'm wanting to hear it. 612 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,120 But here's the thing. 613 00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:26,320 In one of the earlier episodes, we mentioned that this franchise changes genre almost every 614 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,560 entry, right? 615 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,560 First one's a horror sci-fi, second one's an action sci-fi, third one is like a prison 616 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,240 drama set in space. 617 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,240 Sure. 618 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,520 And you were like, I started checking to see if bits were meant to be funny. 619 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:44,640 Now this one, I would argue, written by Joss Whedon, who at the time had written Buffy, 620 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:51,200 but would go on to have a very successful career as an abuser and a slightly less successful 621 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:56,280 career as a writer of The Avengers and Firefly and all sorts of stuff. 622 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,280 We smashed it. 623 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,280 Yeah, absolutely. 624 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,280 And then he started writing. 625 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,520 Nice, nice. 626 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,600 You know, he wrote this and you can see this is meant to be a sort of proto Firefly. 627 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:15,040 I would argue this was kind of meant to be the comedy entry. 628 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,120 I think it's supposed to be sort of comedic, lighthearted, kind of adventure movie. 629 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:20,120 All right, it's dead now. 630 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:21,120 Let's have play. 631 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:22,120 It's weekend at Bernie's. 632 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:23,120 Let's play with the corpse. 633 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:24,120 Right. 634 00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:25,120 Dancing on the corpses ashes. 635 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,640 Like the monster isn't scary anymore. 636 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,200 We're just going to embrace that and just have them... 637 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,200 Is that at the drive-in? 638 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,200 Yeah. 639 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:37,320 Dancing on the corpses ashes. 640 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,320 Fucking banger. 641 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:43,560 The slight delay between us makes, honestly makes the show because we would, we would 642 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,040 sing every episode if that was possible. 643 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,080 Oh man, a thousand percent mate. 644 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,080 Dancing on the corpses ashes is going into my playlist real quick. 645 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,080 Sorry. 646 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,080 Nice. 647 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,080 Continue. 648 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,440 So at the drive-in aside, I do feel like this was meant to be lighter. 649 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,920 Yes, I feel so too. 650 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:05,680 But I feel it had to be because essentially what happened is there was one guy and I cannot 651 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:11,640 pronounce his name and I cannot find anywhere on the internet where it has read out. 652 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:12,640 But George Saraluigi. 653 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,640 Nailed it. 654 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,640 Let's go. 655 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,640 I'm just committing to that. 656 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,680 I know it's wrong, but it's George Saraluigi. 657 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,680 No, no, no. 658 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,680 He loved Alien. 659 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,680 He loved Alien. 660 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,680 He worked his way up at Fox. 661 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,560 He was like, maybe, maybe that's what, that can be my contribution. 662 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,560 I bring Alien back. 663 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,560 Yeah. 664 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:28,560 Get a treat. 665 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,560 Got to make a name for yourself. 666 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,800 And then there's Joss Whedon, who's weirdly just come off Waterworld. 667 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:33,800 Great film. 668 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,520 I mean, when I, yeah, writing Waterworld. 669 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,240 He's not just been to Waterworld. 670 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,240 That's it. 671 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,240 Oh, yeah. 672 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,240 Oh, that's fine. 673 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,240 He did some writing stuff. 674 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,240 I'll get to that later. 675 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,840 But basically, okay, guess his treatment together. 676 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,080 The third act set on earth. 677 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,080 He kind of likes it. 678 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,960 And they're like, cool, let's get a director. 679 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:49,960 Yeah. 680 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,720 And of course every director had seen Alien 3 and heard why it was like that and was like, 681 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,120 nah, nah, I'm all right. 682 00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:58,160 I'm all right. 683 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,880 So here's a couple people that they asked. 684 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,880 Okay. 685 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,880 You're going to be surprised. 686 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,880 Danny Boyle. 687 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,880 Danny Boyle. 688 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:10,040 Director of 28 Days Later, director of Trainspotting, director of Slumdog Millionaire. 689 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,040 Sunshine. 690 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,040 Sunshine. 691 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,040 I'm not, okay. 692 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,400 I've got a complicated relationship with Danny Boyle as well. 693 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,080 Are you going to tell the story where he spoils sunshine for you, thus spoiling it for the 694 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,640 listeners for the fifth time? 695 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,480 Because we've had that like six times on this show. 696 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,760 I'm still not over it. 697 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:25,760 Right. 698 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:26,760 Okay. 699 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,480 I'm still a mess, Rob, and I need to get it out of my system. 700 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,480 You know what I mean? 701 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,200 But new listeners, by all means, by all means. 702 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,960 I avoided all trailers and all everything about sunshine. 703 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:35,960 Right. 704 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:36,960 Because it was coming out. 705 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,960 I was dead excited about it. 706 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:38,960 I was like, fucking yes. 707 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,960 Oh my God, really? 708 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:40,960 I know. 709 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:41,960 Right. 710 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:42,960 Baffling. 711 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:43,960 Wow. 712 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:44,960 I avoided everything. 713 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,280 And then on some fucking throw away, like morning TV show bullshit, Danny Boyle was 714 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,280 on. 715 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,280 I was like, oh, wow, this is going to be interesting. 716 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,280 Exciting. 717 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,840 And that, that cunt sat there and was like, yeah. 718 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,080 So my new film coming out, Sunshine. 719 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,920 Dies, but it's just about how they die. 720 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:58,920 And I was like, cock. 721 00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,920 Wow. 722 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:00,920 Cock. 723 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:01,920 Yeah. 724 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,440 Because then all I did is sit there for the whole film and just go, well, everyone's dead. 725 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,440 Why do I care about anyone? 726 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,440 I didn't. 727 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,760 And then I left the cinema disappointed. 728 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,760 That's the whole thing. 729 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,160 I know you belittle me and I know you're taking the myth. 730 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,840 No, no, I'm just, I just feel like if anyone hasn't seen sunshine, you've just done the 731 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,360 exact same thing to them. 732 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:16,360 Good. 733 00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:17,360 It's fucking, it came out in like 2008. 734 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:18,360 Get over yourselves. 735 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:19,360 All right. 736 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:20,360 Do unto others is done unto you. 737 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:21,360 Yeah. 738 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:22,360 Yeah. 739 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:23,360 All right. 740 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:24,360 Hugh Edwards. 741 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:25,360 What's that old saying? 742 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:26,360 It's a Hugh Edwards. 743 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:29,560 It's just, is there just a hard drive of young Hugh Edwards out there? 744 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,560 Is that what's going on? 745 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,560 Is that what you're saying? 746 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,440 Prince, Prince Andrew's got it. 747 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,680 But Danny, Danny Boyle, Danny Boyle got very close to making it. 748 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,160 He met with Sigourney Weaver and Renona Ryder. 749 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,280 They had French fries. 750 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,280 It was lovely. 751 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,280 That sounds good. 752 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,180 Sigourney was like, I want this to be sexy and psychological. 753 00:25:49,180 --> 00:25:50,180 And he was like, wow. 754 00:25:50,180 --> 00:25:51,180 Right. 755 00:25:51,180 --> 00:25:55,480 Cause she had this whole thing about like, well, I'm equal to the aliens now, so I'm 756 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,480 as dangerous. 757 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,360 And I can be like this new person who's going through a sexual awakening that we've not 758 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:01,760 seen in Ripley. 759 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,280 It's the late night, he's low cut jeans are a thing. 760 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,880 You know, she wants to get in on that. 761 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:06,880 Sure. 762 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:07,880 I can see that. 763 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:08,880 That's hips out. 764 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,880 Danny's like, that's great. 765 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:10,880 And I'm really flattered. 766 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,880 But so far I've made train spotting. 767 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:18,480 Oh, that's a solid CV, man. 768 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,480 Solid CV. 769 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,480 And he was like, I don't know. 770 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,480 I don't know. 771 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,480 CG what? 772 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,480 CGI? 773 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,480 What's the I stand for? 774 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,480 Cause I have no idea. 775 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:31,520 And he was like, in order to make Alien 4, it might be good if you had a director who's 776 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,880 ever done any special effects. 777 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:34,880 Wait, wait, wait. 778 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,360 Are you telling me that that baby crawling on the ceiling was a real baby crawling on 779 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:39,360 the ceiling? 780 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:40,360 Yeah. 781 00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:41,360 Yeah. 782 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:42,360 Well, I mean, okay. 783 00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:44,680 One baby on the ceiling does not an alien form. 784 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,400 Just make it a small one on the ceiling. 785 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,400 Although Dead Space. 786 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,640 It would have made a good Dead Space movie. 787 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:50,640 Yeah. 788 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,640 There you go. 789 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,640 Peter Jackson. 790 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,280 Peter Jackson said no. 791 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,280 Okay. 792 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,280 Yeah. 793 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,160 I can imagine there wasn't enough walking in it. 794 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,320 Well, no, he passed on it because he couldn't get excited about doing a fourth alien film. 795 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,320 Yeah. 796 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,320 Right. 797 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,320 Understandable. 798 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,320 Yeah. 799 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,320 How many Lord of the Rings films now and TV shows? 800 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,320 Sorry. 801 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,320 Yeah. 802 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,320 I think fourth alien. 803 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,320 Yeah. 804 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,600 But the thing is, is that Frodo doesn't throw himself into Mount Doom at the end of. 805 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,600 Oh God. 806 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,600 How good would that have been? 807 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,600 If it wasn't Alien 3. 808 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,600 It's how Lord of the Rings should have ended. 809 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,600 One a done. 810 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,600 Fuck it off. 811 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,600 Who cares? 812 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,600 Jesus Christ. 813 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,600 Sorry, friend of Lord of the Rings fans. 814 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,600 I do rage. 815 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,600 David Cronenberg was asked. 816 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,600 That would have been a fucking sick film. 817 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:27,600 Do you want to hear David Cronenberg's quote on it? 818 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,600 Yeah. 819 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,600 I'd do it. 820 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,600 He's like, it was tempting for him in it because they were begging me to do it. 821 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,600 And I'd love to work with Sigourney and Winona. 822 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,600 Ride it. 823 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,600 It'd be great fun. 824 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,600 Amazing. 825 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,600 But the problem with doing Aliens 4 is if I'm going to do Aliens 4, then I'm going to 826 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,600 have to deliver Aliens 4. 827 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,600 I'm going to have to try and make it a big movie. 828 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:49,440 I'm going to have to make it the best version of Aliens 4 I can. 829 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,000 So I'm not going to try and subvert it or make it something else because why spend a 830 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,440 hundred million of the studio's money and just be deceitful and have to fight them all 831 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,440 the time and have them fight you and then end up with something that isn't good either 832 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,440 way. 833 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,440 Look at it this way. 834 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,520 I didn't do The Fly 2. 835 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,760 Why would I do Aliens 4? 836 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,160 Yeah, fuck. 837 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,440 That's a good fucking point, man. 838 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,440 That's a good point. 839 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,440 Yeah, okay. 840 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,440 Yeah, fair. 841 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,520 So they went through all these people, but one of the things the producer pointed out 842 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,440 is like, look at the roll call of directors that you're being asked to join. 843 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,440 Okay. 844 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,760 Do you want to do a movie in our franchise? 845 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:35,720 You're going to be up there with Ridley Scott, James Cameron and David Fincher, who's now 846 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,720 post-7. 847 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,720 Yeah. 848 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,000 So do you reckon you can compete with them? 849 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,920 If you can't, bro, your career is over. 850 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,440 This is so coercive right now. 851 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:52,600 You're like, you're just bullying people into being the director. 852 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,200 You're not as good as three fantastic directors. 853 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,200 You're not that good. 854 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,920 All right, then we'll just go and ask someone else. 855 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,200 And then he gets back to the car and he's like, that's the 19th fucking person I've 856 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,200 spoken to. 857 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,200 Fuck. 858 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,080 I need to bully someone into it soon, man. 859 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:12,200 So they ended up with Jean-Pierre Jeunet, which is a really odd fucking choice because 860 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,200 I really like Jean-Pierre. 861 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,680 I don't really understand this. 862 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,960 I don't understand it at all. 863 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:16,960 I love that guy. 864 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,360 I don't understand the choice for this film particularly. 865 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,360 Right. 866 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,840 So for those people that don't know who Jean-Pierre Jeunet is, he's got three films that I recommend 867 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,240 you watch and we might do them one day. 868 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,080 He's got a film called The City of Lost Children. 869 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,240 He's got a film called Delicatessen and he's got a film called Amélie. 870 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:44,800 And they are French language, sort of bizarre, fantastical, steampunk, dark, art house, think 871 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,280 poor things 30 years prior. 872 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,280 Yeah. 873 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,520 Avant-garde, weird, art house, French cinema. 874 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,040 And he did all of those movies with a guy called Marc Caro, right? 875 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,240 Who they didn't want. 876 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,600 They were just like, no, just you. 877 00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,920 They thought it'd be like, oh, it's bold. 878 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:00,920 You know, it's bold. 879 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,920 It's different. 880 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,920 He basically, this, I'm not going to lay all the blame at his door. 881 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:07,920 Okay. 882 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:13,880 But I think it's, there are three competing forces in this making of. 883 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,200 There's Joss Whedon who wants to do a sort of Firefly script. 884 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,200 Sure. 885 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,060 And there's Jean-Pierre Jeunet who basically just went just here to do whatever the fuck 886 00:30:23,060 --> 00:30:24,600 the studio wants. 887 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,600 Right. 888 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,600 Okay. 889 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,640 He's like, if I try and fight for my vision, I haven't got my best mate who does all of 890 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,680 my production design. 891 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:40,560 They just want a guy who comes in, goes, what do you want my queen? 892 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,560 And they go this. 893 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,560 And he goes, okay. 894 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,560 What's that? 895 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,560 Sorry, bud. 896 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,560 What's that? 897 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,560 Is that your French accent? 898 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,840 No, that's just a, that's my generic simp accent. 899 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,840 Oh, okay. 900 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,240 Just simping for Fox. 901 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,760 He's like, I've got my money. 902 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,880 There's no point fighting him. 903 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,160 Look what happened to Fincher. 904 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,160 Yeah. 905 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,320 So if they want that, they get that. 906 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,640 And he basically, he said Alien 4, he treated it like one giant commercial. 907 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,880 So essentially they went through all of the directors and then just settled on a yes man 908 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,880 from France. 909 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,880 Yes. 910 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,880 Yeah. 911 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,880 Yeah. 912 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,880 Amazing. 913 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,920 Who had ideas, but they were all wildly, wildly bizarre. 914 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:24,280 His big contribution to the film ended up getting removed digitally frame by frame in 915 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,280 post production. 916 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,680 Oh, I think I know this. 917 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,080 Oh, but I want to get to it shortly. 918 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,080 Okay. 919 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,080 Well, we'll, we'll, we'll, yeah. 920 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,600 I'm not, I'm not going to, yeah, we'll find out whether I know it or not. 921 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,560 I've done bits of research into this. 922 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,560 Right. 923 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,560 Okay. 924 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,560 This film's fucking mental. 925 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,960 I need to go out on a limb here and say that I'm very fucking happy that Jean Paul, Genet 926 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,360 did direct this. 927 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,360 Okay. 928 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,840 I feel like everyone else that you've mentioned would have made spectacular films. 929 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,680 I don't think they would have been as good because they would have been trying to be 930 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,680 good. 931 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,200 Whereas this one feels like it's just a fuck around. 932 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,200 It a hundred percent is. 933 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,880 I feel like they're trying to do too many things. 934 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:08,800 I think Jean-Pierre Genet is going, the studio want this to be exciting and scary and sell 935 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:14,800 merchandise and Sigourney who's an executive wants this to be psychological and sexy. 936 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,440 So he was just saying yes to every fucker that walks up to him. 937 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,440 Okay. 938 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,960 Didn't even speak English for the majority of the production. 939 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,960 That's fucking amazing. 940 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,960 That's actually incredible. 941 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,680 I love this guy so much. 942 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,040 So he's just going there, pay me a boatload of money. 943 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,760 This isn't my, this isn't my art. 944 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,920 This is a, this is a, this is a business venture for me. 945 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,000 They've told me what they want to see. 946 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,280 I'm going to point a camera at what they want to see and I'm going to go home and fucking 947 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,080 roll around on my bed of money. 948 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,080 Yeah, fair. 949 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,600 And Joss Whedon, Joss Whedon is there just looking at his script, getting less and less 950 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,640 and less relevant. 951 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,640 Go in. 952 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,640 Cool. 953 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,640 Cheers buddy. 954 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:54,640 Joss Whedon is such a weird, weird, weird writer. 955 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,640 Right? 956 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,760 I don't understand that this film doesn't make sense to me for a lot of reasons because 957 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,920 it feels like it's just a stream of consciousness and someone sitting there coming up with a 958 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:09,160 ton of ideas going, yeah, but what if, and watching the film, right? 959 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,160 Right. 960 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,160 Sitting there and I'm going, right. 961 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,160 Okay. 962 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,160 So Joss Whedon has written this. 963 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,160 I'm going to see what's happening here. 964 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,160 Yeah. 965 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,600 And then all I get from this entire film is Joss Whedon sitting there going, yeah, but 966 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,600 what if Ron Perlman was a chimp who threw knives at disabled people? 967 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,720 And then he just puts it in the fucking film because he wants to see what would happen. 968 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,720 Yeah. 969 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:33,000 And then after that he's like, but what if Glenn Danzig played in the WNBA and then dressed 970 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,840 as a recording reader? 971 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,360 Watch the basketball scene and tell me that's not Glenn Danzig in the fucking WNBA. 972 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,960 It's insane. 973 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,480 So he just throws it in the film and is like that. 974 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,560 And then he's like, but what if Xenomorphs had human tits and nips? 975 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,560 You know what I mean? 976 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,840 And he just throws it in the film and I love him for it, but I'm also sort of like, buddy. 977 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:53,840 Okay. 978 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:54,840 Okay. 979 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,840 Okay. 980 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,840 Okay. 981 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,840 So a couple of rebuttals here, right? 982 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,840 Sure. 983 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:04,920 Joss Whedon had had a bad time prior to this because he had been asked to punch up the 984 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,440 script for Waterworld. 985 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,480 That was his prior job, right? 986 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,480 Yeah. 987 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,520 And he was working with his first big film writing projects. 988 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,520 He'd done Buffy. 989 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,520 They were like, come in. 990 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,840 Waterworld, by the way, was at the time a children's adventure film where the Dennis 991 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,120 Hopper character was going around hitting henchmen with a fish. 992 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,120 Right. 993 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,120 Okay. 994 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,560 Then Kevin Costner got signed onto the movie and went, I'll only do this if this is a Mad 995 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,920 Max I like on water rather than the desert. 996 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:37,400 And they got Joss in for a week and he spent seven months being ignored. 997 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,000 That's understandable. 998 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,480 You can see that in the movie. 999 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,800 Also though, Waterworld, very fun film. 1000 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,800 Very wet. 1001 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:44,800 Is it a piece of shit? 1002 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,800 It's a very wet film. 1003 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,800 Is it a piece of shit? 1004 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,800 Yes, it is. 1005 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,800 Will I ever watch it again? 1006 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,800 Absolutely. 1007 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,800 Will I enjoy it? 1008 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,800 Probably. 1009 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,800 Probably. 1010 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,800 Maybe. 1011 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,800 Will I moan about it? 1012 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:55,800 For the right reasons? 1013 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:56,800 Yes. 1014 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,800 No. 1015 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:58,800 God no. 1016 00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,800 God no. 1017 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,800 Right. 1018 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,800 So he's a massive alien fan, right? 1019 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,600 And he loved Alien 1 and 2, but in his words, and you'll like this, he didn't like that 1020 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,880 in the third one, people that he didn't know were killed by the alien. 1021 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,280 It was all too much like Friday the 13th. 1022 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,280 Cunt. 1023 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,000 I thought you might like that. 1024 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,560 That's what makes Friday the 13th good. 1025 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,160 He wanted to make every scene be something that was amazing and do something comparable 1026 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,640 to like Evil Dead. 1027 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,080 Oh yeah. 1028 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,320 You mean in Evil Dead, that time when Ron Perlman stabs a disabled man while impersonating 1029 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,320 a fucking chimp. 1030 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,320 Shut up. 1031 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,960 Shut up Joss Whedon, you absolute bellend. 1032 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,040 Honestly, Ron Perlman is a chimp. 1033 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,400 That's not him impersonating a chimp. 1034 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,000 No one asked Ron Perlman to be that way. 1035 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,000 They can't stop him being that way. 1036 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,360 If you cast Ron Perlman, you've got human sized King Kong. 1037 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,360 Fair. 1038 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,360 Fair. 1039 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,360 We've seen Pacific Rim. 1040 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,360 We know how it goes. 1041 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,880 We've seen that one uber ball movie that he's in that no one can remember the words of. 1042 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,200 You know what I mean? 1043 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,560 I've not seen any uber ball movies. 1044 00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,560 Hold on one second. 1045 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,560 One second. 1046 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,400 We've all seen that uber ball movie that no one can remember the title of. 1047 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,480 You know the one with like Ben Kingsley and Michelle Rodriguez and Mads Mikkelsen and 1048 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,320 essentially everyone that exists. 1049 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,640 Jason Statham's in it. 1050 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,640 He plays a farmer. 1051 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,160 Jason Statham's aren't in a uber ball movie. 1052 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,480 No, I work with them. 1053 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,480 Sorry, mate. 1054 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,360 Did you want to pick up that name that you just dropped? 1055 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,360 No, no, no. 1056 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,440 I'm leaving it there. 1057 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,920 Other defenses here of Joss Whedon. 1058 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,080 So he's just come off Waterworld. 1059 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,080 He's having a bad time. 1060 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,080 They've given him this script. 1061 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,440 He's trying to, he writes it all about Newt, a clone of Newt. 1062 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,320 They then call up Sigourney Weaver and go, do you want to do another one? 1063 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,320 That all happens. 1064 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,320 And then they go, fuck your script. 1065 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,320 Sigourney's back. 1066 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,400 So he's got to start again. 1067 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,400 Production deadlines still looming. 1068 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,540 Ron Perlman is a chimp and the newborn, not his. 1069 00:36:44,540 --> 00:36:48,120 His was a spider like vampire creature that they built. 1070 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,320 Of course it was. 1071 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,560 And then they went, actually, this doesn't physically work. 1072 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,720 We can't shoot this. 1073 00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:54,720 Right. 1074 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:55,720 Okay. 1075 00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:56,720 The man tried. 1076 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:57,720 The man tried. 1077 00:36:57,720 --> 00:36:58,720 But did he try in the right direction? 1078 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:01,640 I mean, like everything you've just said to me, I'm like, I don't, come on. 1079 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:02,840 I mean, come on. 1080 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,880 Again, I don't know why I'm defending Joss Whedon. 1081 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,360 He's clearly got, able to fight. 1082 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,840 He can fight for himself. 1083 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,480 He's fight his own battles. 1084 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,480 Right. 1085 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,640 So I mean, but Sigourney Weaver is Glenn Danzig. 1086 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,640 Yeah. 1087 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,880 I love Sigourney Weaver, Ben. 1088 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,120 She's the queen of sci-fi and my heart. 1089 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,120 Same. 1090 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:24,440 I need us to stop covering films that she's in because the more I research, the more of 1091 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,120 a pain in everyone's ass it's becoming apparent Sigourney Weaver is. 1092 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,120 Yes. 1093 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,120 It's bad. 1094 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,520 I had to calm it down on Ghostbusters because it was just making me sad. 1095 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,520 Right. 1096 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,520 Right. 1097 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,520 Which brings me to my next question. 1098 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,520 Well, no, no, no. 1099 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,120 Because you said Glenn Danzig, right? 1100 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,120 Yeah. 1101 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,720 She basically designed her own look. 1102 00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:43,640 She wanted to be wet at all times. 1103 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,640 Amazing. 1104 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,640 In the hair department. 1105 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,640 Nails it. 1106 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:47,640 But also be sexy. 1107 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,240 So like, well, you can't show my vagina, but my hair can be wet. 1108 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:51,240 Sure. 1109 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:52,240 The costume she wears all film. 1110 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:53,240 Yeah. 1111 00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:54,240 Not hers. 1112 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:55,240 Donated by Glenn Danzig. 1113 00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:56,240 No. 1114 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:59,640 She's one of the other actresses who dies mad early in the film and went, I'm wearing 1115 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:00,640 that this film. 1116 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,160 And the costume designer went, no, we've put a lot of work in. 1117 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,320 She's like, I'm wearing that. 1118 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,320 Amazing. 1119 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,960 And they went, but we'll have to redesign for that. 1120 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:07,960 Like, yeah, I'm wearing that. 1121 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,960 Amazing. 1122 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:09,960 Amazing. 1123 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,960 So you saw the outfit and she picked it. 1124 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:11,960 Amazing. 1125 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,960 Amazing. 1126 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,560 That's what I love about it. 1127 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:15,560 That's what I love about it. 1128 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:21,880 But speaking of Sigourney Weaver, buddy, I sent you a question about this film and it 1129 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,400 was, why the fuck are we here? 1130 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,760 And more importantly, why is Sigourney Weaver still entertaining this bullshit? 1131 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,920 And it was in all caps and it was after my first watch through. 1132 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,720 And after my fourth watch through, I now think I understand it. 1133 00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:36,720 She needed the money. 1134 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:37,720 Well, here's the thing. 1135 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:41,760 I've got a direct quote. 1136 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,760 Thank you. 1137 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,640 And it's more nuanced than you might think. 1138 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,640 It really is. 1139 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:46,640 Okay. 1140 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,640 Yeah. 1141 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,040 Sigourney Weaver says, they basically drove a dump truck full of money to my house. 1142 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,040 There it is. 1143 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,040 There it is. 1144 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,800 And it's a full, it's a full, full quote. 1145 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:56,800 Her words. 1146 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,800 Yeah. 1147 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,680 She got paid 11 million for this film, which is more than the entire budget of Alien 1. 1148 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,800 Oh my God. 1149 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,800 Yes. 1150 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,800 Yeah. 1151 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,800 Fair. 1152 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,800 All right. 1153 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,080 I'd entertain this bullshit for 11 million. 1154 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,200 Mate, 11 million. 1155 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,160 I would appear in a porn parody of my best franchise. 1156 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,360 I don't get 11 million. 1157 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,360 11 million. 1158 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,160 I'd appear in a snuff film where I'm the snuff. 1159 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,160 You know what I mean? 1160 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,760 You just live really well. 1161 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,040 You're like, when's it being filmed? 1162 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,040 Four weeks. 1163 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,040 Great. 1164 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,040 I live like a king for four weeks. 1165 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,040 Brilliant. 1166 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,760 Where's the nearest casino and cocaine dealer? 1167 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:29,760 Let's go. 1168 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:30,760 You know what I mean? 1169 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:31,760 That's it. 1170 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:32,760 That's me done. 1171 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,760 A hundred percent. 1172 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,760 A hundred percent. 1173 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,320 So she was purely, I think for her, and this is, this is a job. 1174 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,320 Do you know what I mean? 1175 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,320 And I think some people go, Keanu Reeves is a good example of this. 1176 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,320 Weirdly. 1177 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,120 He often does tiny art house movies with no budget. 1178 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,120 He does. 1179 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,640 Or tiny indie movies. 1180 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,640 Yeah. 1181 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:57,040 He says, I can afford to do them because I've been successful enough and I've done piece 1182 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,520 of shit blockbusters. 1183 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:04,720 That means if I don't need to work this year and if this film comes out and makes nothing 1184 00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:06,720 at the box office, it doesn't matter. 1185 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:08,280 He can do it for his own enjoyment. 1186 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,200 Do it for my own gratification. 1187 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:15,200 That is not a reality for anyone but the cream of the cream of the crop. 1188 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,620 And I think Sigourney went, it's 11 million. 1189 00:40:17,620 --> 00:40:18,620 It's good business. 1190 00:40:18,620 --> 00:40:19,620 Yeah. 1191 00:40:19,620 --> 00:40:22,200 I'm not like attacking her in any way, shape or form. 1192 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,960 I'm fucking glad that she's still about for this. 1193 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,960 It just blew my mind that she was still about for this. 1194 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,600 It was a double edged sword. 1195 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,600 I was like, Oh, I'm glad she's here. 1196 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,760 Oh, but why? 1197 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,640 I agree with you on this film. 1198 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,600 I watched it and I was furious. 1199 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,960 I was furious and bored. 1200 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,760 It's a weird combination. 1201 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,760 Yeah. 1202 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,600 But there's also some things in this movie that just are gratifying. 1203 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,840 They're just gratifying to watch. 1204 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,680 The aliens murdering each other in the pod. 1205 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,680 Like this is a great set piece film. 1206 00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:03,000 And where I think the difference is, is that Alien 3 is a brilliant idea murdered in its 1207 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,000 execution. 1208 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,000 Yeah. 1209 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,000 1000%. 1210 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:13,040 I love the subtext and I love the intent and I love the kind of spiritual core of Alien 1211 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,040 3. 1212 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,040 Okay. 1213 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,680 It needed another year and a year and a half in the oven and another 50 minutes. 1214 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:19,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1215 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,680 Definitely. 1216 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,680 And it didn't have that. 1217 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,520 So what we're left with is like, still my favorite Alien film of the franchise, but 1218 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,120 I can see all of its many flaws. 1219 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,280 You can baffle into me, but okay. 1220 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,360 I think this is a terrible idea executed really well. 1221 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,800 Yeah, no, dude. 1222 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,600 I agree with you wholeheartedly. 1223 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,600 Like it's the inverse. 1224 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,600 Tonally. 1225 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,600 Yeah. 1226 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,600 It's insane. 1227 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,600 Tonally. 1228 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:41,600 This film is odd. 1229 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,600 Yes. 1230 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,240 It's lighthearted, but it's fucked up at the same time. 1231 00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:47,240 Right. 1232 00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:50,240 It's like if a rom-com was also a horror. 1233 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:51,240 The switch up. 1234 00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:52,240 You know what I mean? 1235 00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:53,240 Yeah. 1236 00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:54,240 Yeah, exactly. 1237 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:56,800 But the other way, that was more on the fence of rom-com. 1238 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,400 This would be like more on the fence of horror, right? 1239 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,480 If you don't know what we're talking about, new listeners, we did an episode about a year 1240 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,520 ago that you should really check out, but pack a sick bucket. 1241 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,520 Yeah. 1242 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,520 It's fucking rank. 1243 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,520 Yeah. 1244 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:16,640 The cinematography of this film is odd, but it's also like hauntingly beautiful. 1245 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,600 Like some of the shots in the film are genuinely like awe inspiring, right? 1246 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,360 Well, I know for a fact that everyone involved in the making of this film thought the budget 1247 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,720 was going to be a lot higher than it was. 1248 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:29,480 So they made a lot of plans. 1249 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,880 They made a lot of drawings of sets and then the studio came back and went, and here is 1250 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,720 12 pounds 50 and a smile. 1251 00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:38,720 And they went, so we're going to shoot it all in corridors then. 1252 00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:43,200 And every actor's shot in close up because we do not want to see the set behind them. 1253 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,960 But this is it though. 1254 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,000 It makes it feel like a comic book. 1255 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,040 Like the framing of the film is very comic book. 1256 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,320 The dialogue is very comic book. 1257 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,480 Everything is very black and white and matter of fact, and it's straight to the point. 1258 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,520 The fucking pacing of this film is all over the shop. 1259 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,440 It makes no sense that it exists the way that it does. 1260 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:09,400 Because it goes from being sort of like tension building to just fucking stupid to then immediate 1261 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,400 horror. 1262 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,120 And like the amount of times I've watched this, I watched this four times running up 1263 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,600 to this because it just, it wasn't making sense in my brain. 1264 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,600 It still doesn't. 1265 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,480 I'm just, I just learned to enjoy it. 1266 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,480 Right. 1267 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,480 Yeah. 1268 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,480 And every single time where I was like, oh, this is getting a bit boring now. 1269 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,480 What the fuck is happening? 1270 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,480 Yeah. 1271 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,480 Do you know what I mean? 1272 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,480 Yeah. 1273 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,480 It keeps me engaged. 1274 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,480 It keeps me switched on. 1275 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,360 Like this film doesn't hit me on a deep level at all. 1276 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,760 I guess it means, it means nothing. 1277 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:34,760 It is. 1278 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,760 There's nothing here. 1279 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,760 There's no, there's no subtext. 1280 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:42,880 It's very, very brief morality of cloning thing going on and maybe like a touch of motherhood 1281 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,880 stuff. 1282 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,960 And there's a bit of thing with like independent freedom and what happens when you're even 1283 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,680 your right to die is taken away from you. 1284 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,560 Like, yeah, but I feel like the stuff that it touches on has already been touched on 1285 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,120 in a better way in previous films. 1286 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,000 It's like now it's just sort of like a member berries type thing. 1287 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,000 You know what I mean? 1288 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,000 Yeah. 1289 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,000 It's weird. 1290 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,840 There's not much going on under the surface, but to be honest, once you accept that and 1291 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,640 you just look at what's on the surface and realize how batshit insane everything is, 1292 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,080 you're like, that's pretty fun. 1293 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,080 Right. 1294 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:18,760 And I think as a smashing action toys together, this is far better than alien three in terms 1295 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,040 of visceral fun. 1296 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,040 Right? 1297 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,040 The underwater scene. 1298 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,960 I knew you'd love the underwater scene because it's got warrior aliens and they're doing 1299 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,400 their good swimming. 1300 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,520 And that's the thing that matters to you. 1301 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,560 This is it. 1302 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,560 This is it. 1303 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,080 We see the frosty swimming badges now. 1304 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,080 You know what I mean? 1305 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,280 The five, the 10, the 20 meters, they're all there. 1306 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,280 Finally come full circle. 1307 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,280 It's there. 1308 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,280 Oh God. 1309 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,280 There we go. 1310 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,320 The director's got a very clear boot fetish. 1311 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,320 Yeah. 1312 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,880 Every, every single shot of this film starts with the characters boots stepping on something. 1313 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:48,880 Yeah. 1314 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,880 Oh yeah. 1315 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,840 And there's, there's needless sexiness. 1316 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,440 You can tell he's a Frenchman. 1317 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:54,760 There's the foot massage scene. 1318 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:55,760 There is. 1319 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,760 It's odd. 1320 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:57,760 It's very odd. 1321 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:04,160 And the, the removal of the, the, his, his one creative decision, which was let's give 1322 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,680 the newborn alien hermaphroditic genitals. 1323 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,360 Yes, buddy. 1324 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,600 Dude, this is the bit that I full erection with a vagina. 1325 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,120 This is the bit that I learned about. 1326 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,120 Right? 1327 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,160 So I was chatting to the guys over at, um, control or critique last night and I was like, 1328 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,400 we're doing alien four. 1329 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:21,400 It's super fun. 1330 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,400 I just got done watching it. 1331 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,400 What did you think of it? 1332 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,400 Yeah. 1333 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,440 And the one fact that stuck with me is Amber turned around and was like, did you know that 1334 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,880 the newborn used to have a vagina, but they had to remove it because it was too sexy. 1335 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,480 And I was like, too sexy. 1336 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,080 Not too sexy. 1337 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,400 It's just too sexy. 1338 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,400 It's just, I don't think that Fox wanted to distribute images of minus genitals. 1339 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,680 They're not Hugh Edwards. 1340 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,680 Yeah. 1341 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,000 To be fair, there was a whole bunch of stuff. 1342 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,600 So they read that Fox really wanted to cut the scene where Ripley get falls down the 1343 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,720 grate and is on the tentacles and gets all sexy with the alien. 1344 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:51,720 Yeah. 1345 00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:52,720 Okay. 1346 00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:53,840 Which is pretty sexy scene. 1347 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:54,840 I mean, yeah. 1348 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:55,840 Ish. 1349 00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:01,640 As far, listen, as far as tentacled wall scenes go, top five sexist. 1350 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,640 Yeah. 1351 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,280 It's better than anything in Annihilation and that's got Natalie Portman in it. 1352 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,280 So, right. 1353 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,280 Yeah. 1354 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,280 It's a fun film. 1355 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,280 It's a fun film. 1356 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,400 It's a confused film. 1357 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,080 I don't hate it at all. 1358 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:18,520 It's still more aliens and this is why I'm, I'm excited for Romulus. 1359 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:24,160 Alien franchise after this went in a weird, weird direction because they were, they were, 1360 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,200 this didn't really do what they wanted it to do critically or commercially. 1361 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,200 Shocker. 1362 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,200 Right. 1363 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,200 Look at it. 1364 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,200 Come on. 1365 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,120 And I feel like, I feel like I was chatting with a listener and I was like, alien three 1366 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,320 is a knife in the gut to the franchise, but alien resurrection really is the two barrels 1367 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,240 in the back of the head. 1368 00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:46,200 It's like alien three is, is the mortal wound and you could have got a T you could have 1369 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,320 got the right team in, given it the right treatment, stitched it back up, got it fighting 1370 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,320 fit again. 1371 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,320 And we just look back at alien three as the problem child. 1372 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:59,080 It was the stab in the gut of alien three being followed by the car crash. 1373 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,080 I guess so. 1374 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,080 That is alien resurrection. 1375 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,120 The sort of tonal weirdness. 1376 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:07,280 See I'd put it, I'll agree with you to a certain point, but I think it goes one step further 1377 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,280 and alien three fucking dead and buried this franchise. 1378 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,280 You know what I mean? 1379 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,280 Right. 1380 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,280 Fucking ruined it. 1381 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:18,960 And then rather than, it could have been great film, but rather than just go, look, it's 1382 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:19,960 dead. 1383 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:20,960 We need to move past it. 1384 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,680 And what they did is they were like, you know what? 1385 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:23,680 Fuck it. 1386 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,680 Let's just slap some strings on the corpse and fucking dance it around like a little 1387 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,680 meat puppet for a bit. 1388 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,680 And that's what they did. 1389 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,800 And they did like a cute little, you know, Marionette show. 1390 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,800 It's fantastic. 1391 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:32,800 Yeah. 1392 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,280 But it's, it's one of them. 1393 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,200 It's again, you have to reach for it. 1394 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,920 Like as a film, it's terrible. 1395 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,880 Like to critically look at this film and go, so yeah, it's pretty fun. 1396 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,880 Wrong. 1397 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,280 No, I mean, objectively wrong. 1398 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,280 It's shit. 1399 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,320 It's a bad film, but I don't begrudge anyone enjoying it. 1400 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,320 Like I don't enjoy it. 1401 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,360 I enjoy it. 1402 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,480 I do enjoy it though. 1403 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:53,480 I really do enjoy it. 1404 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,960 I think if you look at it as an actual film and what a film should bring to a table, it's 1405 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:57,960 terrible. 1406 00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:58,960 Yeah. 1407 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,560 If you're looking at it as a bit of fun in a franchise that you love that was already 1408 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,560 dead and buried. 1409 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,560 Yeah. 1410 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:04,560 And then they were just like, fuck it. 1411 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:05,720 Let's just reanimate it for a little bit. 1412 00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:06,720 Yeah. 1413 00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:07,720 And then, yeah, it's fine. 1414 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:08,720 It's like slapping on. 1415 00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:11,480 It's like the real Ghostbusters after Ghostbusters. 1416 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,480 Right. 1417 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,480 It's not the real thing. 1418 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,640 It's not quite there, but it's, it's, it's, it's ironically the real Ghostbusters are 1419 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,120 not the real Ghostbusters. 1420 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,480 Yeah, they're not. 1421 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,480 It's infuriating. 1422 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,480 It's fine though. 1423 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,480 It's fine. 1424 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:23,480 It's fine. 1425 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,720 Hey, so never guess who I managed to convince to help us with the show again. 1426 00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:29,520 Who? 1427 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:30,520 You know who. 1428 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:31,520 Our favourite voice. 1429 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:32,520 Our favourite voice. 1430 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,520 Oh, the fucking... 1431 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,720 The best voice on the show. 1432 00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:37,720 Chocolate velvet voice. 1433 00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:38,720 Yeah. 1434 00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:39,720 Okay. 1435 00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:40,720 Yeah. 1436 00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:41,720 Okay. 1437 00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:44,320 Of Alien the Eighth Passenger who runs an incredible Instagram account. 1438 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,320 We love this guy. 1439 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,720 Of just such Alien the Eighth Passenger. 1440 00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:48,480 I mean, it's not, not rocket science. 1441 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,480 It's not hard. 1442 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,480 Stop being lazy. 1443 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:51,480 You know what I mean? 1444 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,480 You're already on Instagram. 1445 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,520 Their alien content is, is the best on Instagram. 1446 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,040 And we reached out to them. 1447 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,560 We said, look, you know, we're doing every Alien movie ever. 1448 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:00,560 We'd love your input. 1449 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,360 And so they sent us this. 1450 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,360 Wacko. 1451 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,000 I wasn't asking you, Carducci. 1452 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,120 I was asking the extra. 1453 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,880 Hi, dear friends of every movie ever. 1454 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,600 It's a fact that Alien Resurrection is probably the most hated installment by fans. 1455 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:16,600 But you know what? 1456 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:17,920 I really love it. 1457 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,920 That's why today I'll share three contributions that make this film great. 1458 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:23,920 Practical effects. 1459 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:29,680 After the bad taste Alien 3 left with its pure handling of visual effects, Alien Resurrection 1460 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,680 delivers at the light of practicals at the highest level. 1461 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,760 Swimming aliens. 1462 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:39,280 In this movie, we see the xenomorphs in an environment we've never seen before and their 1463 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,800 movements look stunning. 1464 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:42,800 Clone scene. 1465 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,560 We happily discover her predecessors, which for me it's undeniably the most disturbing 1466 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,560 moment of the entire saga. 1467 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:55,040 Finally, I'd like to add that the key to enjoying this movie is not to take it too seriously. 1468 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,480 The same cynical and sarcastic tone allows it to make it fun of itself. 1469 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,720 We must accept that at least they took risks. 1470 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:05,480 Alien Resurrection didn't try to copy the others. 1471 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,280 And for me, that's what makes it so unique. 1472 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,280 Right. 1473 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,280 Right. 1474 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,280 Straight off the bat. 1475 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:12,280 Right. 1476 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,080 The voice is unreal. 1477 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,760 It's too sexy. 1478 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,240 He needs to calm the fuck down. 1479 00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:18,380 All right. 1480 00:50:18,380 --> 00:50:19,560 Never come to England. 1481 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,920 It's hard enough being single. 1482 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:21,920 Band. 1483 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:22,920 Band. 1484 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,000 It is hard enough being single in England. 1485 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:30,560 There is nothing within me that could compete with just that voice alone, let alone the 1486 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,880 fact that you're a fucking wonderful person. 1487 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:33,880 Let alone all that. 1488 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:34,880 Band. 1489 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:35,880 Never allowed. 1490 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:41,360 And secondly, for a man who hasn't heard our episode yet because he's helping us with 1491 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,640 it before it's released. 1492 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,640 Yes. 1493 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,760 And he listens alongside every one of you listening. 1494 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:52,800 I find it uncanny how much we agree that this doesn't take itself too seriously. 1495 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,520 You're allowed to have fun with it. 1496 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,560 It doesn't copy the movies. 1497 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,560 It's quite sarcastic. 1498 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,400 The effects are on point. 1499 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,600 Swimming fucking Xenomorphs, which is, you know, obviously we all know that I'm a swimming 1500 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,600 warrior Xenomorph from the previous episodes. 1501 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:06,600 Close to your heart. 1502 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,000 Very, very close to my heart. 1503 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,880 We share a frosty swimming badge. 1504 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,560 I agree wholeheartedly what you're saying. 1505 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:13,560 It's very fun. 1506 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,240 It's very stupid, but it's also incredible effects. 1507 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:20,280 It's super fucking fun and tongue in cheek. 1508 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,880 It's probably the most fun I've had in aliens in the last two weeks. 1509 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,000 Alien 3 shit all over it. 1510 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,000 How dare you? 1511 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,480 I mean, this one was just sort of like, ah, fuck it. 1512 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,480 How dare you? 1513 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,480 How dare you? 1514 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:29,480 Do you want to play a game? 1515 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:30,480 I'd love to. 1516 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,840 This film, believe it or not, has got a host of cameos. 1517 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:34,840 Okay. 1518 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:35,840 I thought you were going to say a hundred then. 1519 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:36,840 I was like, this is a long game. 1520 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:37,840 We're nearly out of time. 1521 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,000 I'm not guessing a hundred people. 1522 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,000 There's no, there's no any of that many. 1523 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,000 It's like 50. 1524 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,000 So cool. 1525 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:52,440 Did you spot top dollar, top dollar, the villain from 1994 is the crow. 1526 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,960 Um, no. 1527 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,520 Michael Wincott, right? 1528 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:57,520 Yeah. 1529 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:03,240 Who plays, uh, Elgin, the captain of the Betty in this. 1530 00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:04,800 Oh, okay. 1531 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,200 Is the main villain in the crow. 1532 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,200 Holy fuck. 1533 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,200 Do you not recognize those velvety tones? 1534 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,800 He's got an incredible voice. 1535 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,520 Do you know what I think it is? 1536 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,840 I think everyone that's in this film, I'm like, these aren't real people. 1537 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,280 These aren't people. 1538 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,640 These aren't people I know and love. 1539 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:20,640 This is fine. 1540 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:21,640 Okay. 1541 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,280 I'm panicking slightly because the easy one was quite hard. 1542 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,280 Okay. 1543 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:31,160 Did you recognize Grima Wormtongue, the guy who sits on Theoden's shoulder in Lord of 1544 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,120 the Rings and whispers poison in his ear? 1545 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,360 Fucking hell, Rob. 1546 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,360 That's a long one, isn't it? 1547 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,360 Jesus. 1548 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,760 He's like a major dude in Lord of the Rings. 1549 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,480 Yeah, but there's like 132 films. 1550 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,120 He's the one that won't let them in. 1551 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,800 He's the one who won't let him into the horseman's house. 1552 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,800 Right. 1553 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,600 Cause he's like, fuck off, Gandalf. 1554 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:49,600 Right. 1555 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,600 Okay. 1556 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,440 Oh wait, is this the guy in the cloak who's like, you're not in my pub? 1557 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,440 No. 1558 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,440 At the beginning? 1559 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:55,440 No. 1560 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,440 This is in the second film. 1561 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,480 Oh, fucking no one remembers the two towers, Rob. 1562 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:00,480 Come on. 1563 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:01,480 Okay. 1564 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:02,480 Uh, no. 1565 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,480 No, I don't. 1566 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:10,480 I didn't. 1567 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,480 Ooh. 1568 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,480 Okay. 1569 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,480 Right now we're getting into the hard ones. 1570 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,480 Right. 1571 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:24,640 Did you recognize crystal meth sniffing, Breaking Bad villain, Tuco Salamanca? 1572 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,440 Yes, of course I did. 1573 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:27,440 Oh, you got him. 1574 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,440 All right. 1575 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:29,440 Yeah, of course I did. 1576 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,440 Come on. 1577 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,440 Okay. 1578 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,440 Yeah. 1579 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:33,440 He's, um, Nameless Marine, whose name I don't remember. 1580 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,440 Nameless Marine. 1581 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,840 He's, he's Marine person number four. 1582 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:37,840 Yeah. 1583 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,480 I do feel for all these people in this film, be like, this is going to be the peak of my 1584 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,480 career. 1585 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:49,720 Um, but someone for whom it wasn't the peak of his career, even though he's, he's a relatively 1586 00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:53,640 large part in this film, way larger than he is in the film that would be the peak of his 1587 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:54,640 career. 1588 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:55,640 Okay. 1589 00:53:55,640 --> 00:54:00,000 Did you recognize that fella, you know, in seven, they go through all the deadly sins 1590 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,840 and there's the sin of lust and our mate, Martin. 1591 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,840 Right? 1592 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:05,840 Yeah. 1593 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,560 He works at Wild Bill's leather shop. 1594 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:08,560 Yep. 1595 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,840 He makes a bladed dildo that he thinks is just some kink thing. 1596 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:12,840 Yeah. 1597 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:17,200 And he gets used on a sex worker and they interview the guy who was forced to use it. 1598 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,200 Yes. 1599 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,200 Remember him? 1600 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,200 Kind of. 1601 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,200 It's been a while since I've seen seven. 1602 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,200 I think the last time I saw seven was when we interviewed Martin. 1603 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,920 We should do Finch's films, man. 1604 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:26,920 Let's, let's have a think. 1605 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:27,920 We'll have a think. 1606 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:28,920 All right. 1607 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:29,920 Yeah. 1608 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,920 I mean, technically we've started his films. 1609 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:31,920 Alien three. 1610 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:32,920 Yeah. 1611 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:33,920 There you go. 1612 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:34,920 All right. 1613 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:35,920 Well, there you go. 1614 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:36,920 There we go. 1615 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,280 Join us for episode two with the Finch series coming soon. 1616 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,280 Great callback. 1617 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,640 He's, uh, he's Mr. Kidnapped. 1618 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,920 He's got the alien inside him who does the ridiculous chest burst kill. 1619 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:49,920 Oh shit. 1620 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:50,920 Yes. 1621 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:51,960 No, I do know who you mean. 1622 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:56,920 His job is basically appearing on screen and crying hysterically in every film I've seen 1623 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:57,920 him in. 1624 00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,920 I've never seen that man smile. 1625 00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:00,920 Yeah. 1626 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,520 They just keep him near the edge. 1627 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:04,520 You know what I mean? 1628 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:05,520 They're just sort of like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1629 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:06,520 You know, you're doing great. 1630 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:07,520 You're doing great. 1631 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,520 But, but. 1632 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:09,520 Right. 1633 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,080 They just give him a heroic dose of mushrooms and kick him into the clown room 40 minutes 1634 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,080 before filming. 1635 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,080 Right. 1636 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,120 We're going to be shooting in a haunted house. 1637 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,680 Uh, does everyone have their mushrooms? 1638 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:19,680 Excellent. 1639 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:20,680 Eat them now. 1640 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:21,680 Eat them quick. 1641 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:22,680 Eat them now. 1642 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:23,680 Eat them quick. 1643 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:24,680 All right. 1644 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:25,680 Brilliant. 1645 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,680 Well, there you go. 1646 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:27,680 You did weirdly. 1647 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:28,680 You got all the ones I thought were mad obscure. 1648 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:29,680 I recognize two of them. 1649 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:30,680 Yeah. 1650 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:31,680 I know two. 1651 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:32,680 Lord of the Rings. 1652 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:33,680 Come on, buddy. 1653 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:34,680 No one watches two towers. 1654 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:35,680 I mean, I don't know. 1655 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:36,680 You collect your little special cards, don't you? 1656 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:37,680 Your little autistic hobbies. 1657 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:38,680 Is that Magic the Gathering? 1658 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:39,680 Oh, there we go. 1659 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,680 Did you just call me an autistic hobbit? 1660 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,680 I'm six foot two, you cock. 1661 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,680 I said your little autistic hobby. 1662 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:47,680 Oh, okay. 1663 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:48,680 Yeah, that's fair. 1664 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:49,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1665 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:50,680 Fine, fine, fine, fine. 1666 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:51,680 Yeah. 1667 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,320 Uh, before we get to the rating, I've got a comment corner that we've already sort of 1668 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:56,320 partially addressed. 1669 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,120 Oh, I think I know which one this is. 1670 00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,120 Uh, yeah. 1671 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,120 No, no, no. 1672 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,120 It's the one where J.J. 1673 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,120 Soul the barber commented smiley face. 1674 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,120 Oh, no. 1675 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,120 Nuke.tan. 1676 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,120 Yeah. 1677 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:16,040 We posted a little highlight of the podcast and they said they said they couldn't finish 1678 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,320 the episode because of the tedious. 1679 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,320 Fair. 1680 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,320 Fair. 1681 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,320 Endless. 1682 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,320 It's only an hour. 1683 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:23,320 Trash talking. 1684 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:24,320 Yeah. 1685 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:25,320 Is it the best alien movie? 1686 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:26,320 No. 1687 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,320 The way these guys talked about it just felt like fandom rage bait. 1688 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:31,680 It wasn't so much fandom rage bait. 1689 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,280 It's just fan rage because I genuinely enjoyed the first two. 1690 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,280 Right. 1691 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,280 But I get it. 1692 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,280 I can, I can understand why. 1693 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,280 I don't know. 1694 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:40,280 I feel like I see it. 1695 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,280 I felt like we were balanced. 1696 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:48,600 And what I would like is listeners to let us know where you feel we judge our anger. 1697 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,920 If we don't enjoy a film, should we just not cover it? 1698 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,480 Like do we only cover films we enjoy? 1699 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,520 But I want to hear what the listeners think. 1700 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,120 Was that a balanced episode for you? 1701 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:04,160 And Nuke.tan, I hope this episode has angered you equally because it's been just as honest. 1702 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,920 It has. 1703 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,960 Also though, I did check out his stuff. 1704 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:08,960 It's fucking mint. 1705 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:09,960 Is it? 1706 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,880 So yeah, go check out his stuff because it's actually mint. 1707 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:13,880 I know. 1708 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:14,880 I know. 1709 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:15,880 I know. 1710 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,000 Not only is he giving helpful, you know, feedback. 1711 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,000 Fair play. 1712 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,000 Thank you very much. 1713 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,000 Appreciate it. 1714 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,960 Also fucking great shit though, bud. 1715 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:26,960 Honestly. 1716 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:35,960 I got one from TikTok here from John who commented on our Alien 3 reel. 1717 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,920 I think it's the one with you in the cathedral. 1718 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:38,920 Yeah. 1719 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,680 Someone did comment and we've already covered the fact that I couldn't go to Wood Planet. 1720 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:43,680 I'm sorry. 1721 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,160 I let the show down. 1722 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,560 I went to Gloucester Cathedral. 1723 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,120 It wasn't filmed there. 1724 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,360 I know that, but I just, I couldn't afford the tickets to Wood Planet. 1725 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,120 And I'm trying to get over my own shame. 1726 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,600 It's questionable. 1727 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:57,600 You know what I mean? 1728 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,280 Like your dedication to the podcast is becoming more and more questionable as time passes. 1729 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:02,920 But it's just bad journalism, mate. 1730 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,040 It's just arguably the worst a journalist has been all year. 1731 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,040 I know. 1732 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,040 You know what I mean? 1733 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,960 All of your fucking hard drives with all the wood planet pictures on them. 1734 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,240 It's about time someone called you out on it. 1735 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,240 To be fair, my hard drive is full of pictures of Wood Planet. 1736 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,240 It's just Wood Planet. 1737 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:22,320 So John on TikTok says, did you know that in Alien 3, the entire story was meant to 1738 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,600 be a dream of Ripley, which we would have found out at the end. 1739 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,320 And to that I say it would have been a better fucking film. 1740 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,440 No, no, no, no, no. 1741 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,920 There is no way to annoy me more than it was all a dream. 1742 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:36,920 No, no, no. 1743 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:37,920 That's not how it goes. 1744 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:38,920 Is there any films that actually happens? 1745 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:43,320 Has that ever been done in a film? 1746 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:44,320 Nightmare on Elm Street? 1747 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,400 I suppose technically it is all a dream. 1748 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,400 I guess. 1749 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:48,960 But hear me out. 1750 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,280 Alien 3 plays out exactly as it is. 1751 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:56,000 And then just out of the blue, Ripley wakes up, looks dead into the camera and goes, ah, 1752 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,280 it really was an Alien 3 all along. 1753 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:00,280 See? 1754 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,940 It fucking works. 1755 00:59:02,940 --> 00:59:03,940 It makes it better. 1756 00:59:03,940 --> 00:59:04,940 Okay. 1757 00:59:04,940 --> 00:59:05,940 No, I like that. 1758 00:59:05,940 --> 00:59:08,640 What are you rating Alien Resurrection, Ben? 1759 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:09,640 Five. 1760 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:10,640 It's fun. 1761 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,640 Ooh, five. 1762 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,240 It's fun. 1763 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:18,760 I could watch it again because it's just goofy, mindless nonsense that's kind of set in a 1764 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,760 familiar place. 1765 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:20,760 It's fine, I guess. 1766 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,760 It's fine. 1767 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:22,760 Yeah. 1768 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:23,760 It's difficult. 1769 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,320 There's not really much else going in on it. 1770 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:30,600 It's difficult because do I rate it as a film or do I rate it as an Alien film? 1771 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,640 Rate it for what you got out of it. 1772 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,640 Oh, zero. 1773 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,280 You got nothing from this. 1774 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,720 You didn't have any fun at all. 1775 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:38,720 One. 1776 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:39,720 I had some fun. 1777 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:40,720 I like seeing Alien. 1778 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:41,720 I had one fun. 1779 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:42,720 I had one fun. 1780 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:51,000 I think my thing is, is it's like, if I receive a gift from a stranger in the street, it can 1781 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,000 be a fucking Malteser or a Reese's cup. 1782 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,640 I'm like, oh wow, that's really thoughtful. 1783 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,680 If I take food from strangers, it's what I'd say to that. 1784 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:07,680 If a family member gives me a gift, they're in a different category. 1785 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,560 The person I love most in the world, they've known me all year and they're like, there 1786 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:12,560 you go. 1787 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:13,840 I'm like, a single Malteser. 1788 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:14,840 I'm like, that's not... 1789 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:15,840 I know what I'm getting you for your birthday. 1790 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:21,640 I'm going to ship it in a massive box just for it to be hilarious. 1791 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,120 I'm just going to say it'll be underwhelming. 1792 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:27,520 It'll be underwhelmed and I'll be like, from someone who knows me better than anyone, that's 1793 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:28,560 a bit underwhelming. 1794 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,440 The Alien franchise is family to me. 1795 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,000 I've grown up with it. 1796 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:37,720 Sci-fi, my understanding of what sci-fi is started with this franchise. 1797 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:38,720 Okay. 1798 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:44,280 So it's really difficult for me to be objective and go, oh, it's a five. 1799 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,160 Because I'm like, if it was just a film, yeah, it's a five. 1800 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,600 If it was a fucking David Toohey film, like Pitch Black or Chronicles of Riddick, I'd 1801 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:52,600 be like, yeah, eight. 1802 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,060 It's a piece of shit fun B movie. 1803 01:00:55,060 --> 01:00:57,200 This is Alien 4, man. 1804 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,200 Yeah. 1805 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,280 You're saying that like it's supposed to be a not piece of shit Alien B movie. 1806 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,760 That's exactly what it is. 1807 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,760 That's all it was ever going to be. 1808 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:06,960 It was never going to get better. 1809 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,000 Look at Alien 3 that had Fincher and had genuine good undertones. 1810 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,000 It had a great skeleton. 1811 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,680 It was just fucking someone had stapled loose ham to it and expected it to be like an athlete. 1812 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:17,680 Do you know what I mean? 1813 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:18,680 It was ridiculous. 1814 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:19,680 Fair, fair, fair, fair. 1815 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:20,680 Yeah. 1816 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:21,680 So what are you saying? 1817 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:22,680 You're saying a one. 1818 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:23,680 It's a one for me. 1819 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:30,960 Out of pure disappointment because I feel like we could have saved the franchise. 1820 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:35,120 And I'm not saying that Romulus is going to save the franchise, but I'm saying it has 1821 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:36,400 the potential to. 1822 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:37,600 Yeah, but so did this. 1823 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,240 And therefore it has the responsibility. 1824 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,120 But if you've got the potential, you've got the responsibility. 1825 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,180 And so Fedai Alvarez, it's on him. 1826 01:01:45,180 --> 01:01:47,000 If Alien Romulus doesn't save the franchise. 1827 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,000 Who are you? 1828 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,560 Ben Affleck in Good Will Hunting. 1829 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:50,560 What's going on? 1830 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,600 You're letting all this out now? 1831 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:53,600 What's going on? 1832 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,080 It's always been my ethos. 1833 01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:58,080 Those that can should. 1834 01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,080 Fucking hell. 1835 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,120 That's I mean, I can juggle. 1836 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:02,120 Should I? 1837 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,120 Yeah, because you've got hands to juggle. 1838 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:07,160 There's some armless fucker over there just dreaming of juggling. 1839 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,060 And what you can do is walk in the room and juggle in front of him and it'll make him 1840 01:02:10,060 --> 01:02:12,240 feel miles better. 1841 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,680 Or it will be taunting in their face going, haha, look what I can do and you can't. 1842 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,520 You're an evil person, Rob. 1843 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:18,520 Just figure it out, Ben. 1844 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:19,520 Just give it a try. 1845 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:20,520 Just give it a try. 1846 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:21,520 It's my responsibility. 1847 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:22,520 It's my responsibility. 1848 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:23,520 It's your responsibility. 1849 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:24,520 You've got hands. 1850 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:28,040 Unfortunately, guys, this is where we're going to have to leave this week's episode. 1851 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,400 Thank you so fucking much for hanging out with us. 1852 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,720 It's been an absolute pleasure. 1853 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,800 Hopefully you go and watch this film and you get something from it. 1854 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,960 Also, if you do watch this film and don't get something from it, let us know on our 1855 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,320 Discord in the most hilarious fashion because I want someone good to read out next episode. 1856 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:50,520 I want someone to watch this film and go, guys, you owe me two hours of my life back 1857 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:51,520 immediately. 1858 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,600 I want it to be full of C bombs. 1859 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:54,600 I want them all. 1860 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,320 I want it in like full technical rage. 1861 01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:58,320 You know what I mean? 1862 01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,320 Feed me. 1863 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:00,320 Feed me something. 1864 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:01,320 You know what I mean? 1865 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:02,320 We've also got a YouTube video out. 1866 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:07,120 We have got exclusive content that Ben and I recorded especially for you. 1867 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:12,080 And our good friend, Anthony, the editor has poured all of his love and all of his skill 1868 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,440 and all of his talent into. 1869 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,840 And trust me, all three of those are large. 1870 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:16,840 Huge. 1871 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,760 We would love nothing more than for you to go to our YouTube and give it a watch because 1872 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,240 we put loads of effort into it and it's fucking great. 1873 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,720 And it validates our existence. 1874 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,640 We need it. 1875 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,000 You don't have to. 1876 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,800 I don't need it now. 1877 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:31,800 We've made it. 1878 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:32,800 We've put work into it. 1879 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:33,800 All right. 1880 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:34,960 We had the we had the ability. 1881 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,600 So we had the responsibility. 1882 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,240 You've got the ability to watch it. 1883 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:39,240 So now you've got the responsibility. 1884 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,240 Oh, I see why you brought all this up. 1885 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,240 I see that. 1886 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:43,240 This is fucking genius. 1887 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,240 Yeah, it's on you. 1888 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:45,240 It's on you. 1889 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:46,240 It's on you. 1890 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,760 You can go juggle that YouTube video in your eye sockets. 1891 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:55,120 Ben is now going to thank you for spending an hour of your week with us, especially at 1892 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:59,560 the start of the week as it is for a lot of you by wrapping up the thoughts, subtext and 1893 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:04,840 deep philosophical meaning of the film into a little Monday Motivation Pet Talk. 1894 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:11,320 While I just cosplay society and do what society always does, tell you to consume. 1895 01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,440 It's pretty fucking hard to pull something out of this film as like as like a lesson, 1896 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:16,440 I guess. 1897 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,320 I think the main lesson is if your kids are pissing you off and you're not quite like 1898 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:25,480 and just not feeling it, spit your acid blood at a window in space and fucking murder them 1899 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,880 is I think the takeaway from this film. 1900 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:28,880 I think that's it. 1901 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:36,320 Or or it's if you're going to put genitals on a newborn baby alien, pixelate them. 1902 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:37,480 Otherwise they're going to get removed. 1903 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:59,840 I don't know.