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fucking love you. Apologies for the shambles of the episode. I tried, okay? Research!
Hello everyone and welcome to the Every Movie Ever Podcast. My name is Ben Groves.
And my name is Rob McFarlane. Welcome to the show, a movie podcast slash mental health check in for
two broken brained best friends talking around their problems, around, but not about their problems.
Not yet. So to recognise that fact, Ben, before I get to what we're doing, before you get to
what we're doing, let's both get to how are you doing? The most important bit of our show.
Oh, thanks. I mean, it's not, but you know, it's good that we say that.
There are movie facts coming. New listeners, don't worry.
Yeah, yeah. I'm doing good, man. I had my first experience in IMAX 3D. That was a new one for me.
It's awful. It's the fucking worst. Holy shit. It's like plugging your eyeballs directly into
the mains grid. It's just too much. Buddy, it's like watching a film on a tiny screen,
but also that tiny screen is fucking massive. It's the most confusing thing. I wear glasses as well,
so I had to wear glasses over glasses. I was a six-eyed dickhead sitting three rows in from
the screen. It was horrendous. It's what I imagine watching porn in VR is like, you know what I mean?
OK, yeah, it's not. OK, well, we'll move the analogy. I found it like you've already got there,
but someone's still rubbing the tip. Yes, it was great, but it's too much.
That's exactly what it is. Too much. In other unrelated news, I now own a MetaQuest 2.
I don't. I'm too poor. How are you, buddy? Similarly poor, still poor. Just got paid.
Really poor. Oh, same. Yeah, it's payday yesterday. I'm already brassic.
But that's fine. That's fine. I'm doing all right. My mentals are at that point where nothing is
wrong. Nothing has changed. I am neither good nor bad. I am just making sure the standby light is on
and that I answer when people say my name. OK, this brings me to an interesting conversation
I had the other day with Adam Smart. We were discussing this exact thing. I was like,
I was aiming for beige days. Yeah. Remember when I said this a while ago, I was aiming for
middle road. Yeah, a couple of weeks ago, you're aiming for beige. I wasn't, you know,
not living up high constantly. Teacups, not roller coaster. Exactly. Right. I feel like I've got there
and I was like, I'm not sad. I'm not ecstatic. I'm not live, laugh, love, but I'm also not crying,
eating Ben and Jerry's. Right. Yeah. So we've we've coined the term live mid. Live mid. Live
mid. It works on every occasion. Saying goodbye to your mates that are a little bit down. Live
mid, bro. Yeah. Something happens that you're like, well, I don't really have a reaction to this.
I don't know if I'd class what I'm doing as living. I exist mid. Exist mid. Oh, that's a fucking
t-shirt right there. That is, bud. You know. Hold on. Let me just pop this in my notes real quick.
I feel like in everything, everywhere, all at once where she moves to the dimension where life
didn't happen, she's just a stone. Yes. Yeah. I'm a stone. Isn't that the backdrop on your
computer? It was for a while. I've changed it to a little blue robot. What are we doing today, Ben?
Today, buddy, we're back in our Thai West X trilogy in celebration of Maxine being released.
We are at film number two. We are. And which was for the first time, I don't know what's coming
next because I have yet to get to the cinema. Okay. This fills me with joy because I've already
written half of the Maxine episode and I cannot fucking wait for you to see this. So we're going
to be getting into Pearl. It's the second film in the trilogy. It was released six months after X.
Complete surprise. Thai West literally fucking flexed his bulbous filmmaking muscles. Oh yeah.
Here's X. It's one of the best horror films in decades. Also, here's another. Yeah. We just,
we discussed this last episode, just casually releasing two films in one year, shooting the
prequel to your own film before it's come out is a ballsy move. That's a cash out. That's a cash
out move. Yeah. Yeah. That is, that is, that is naming your baby before you've got her number.
Guilty as charged on a couple of occasions there, buddy. Uh, spoiler. It was Roderick. Right. Okay.
Best not to say guilty as charged on a couple of occasions when talking about meeting women.
Yeah. Blind single now. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm just existing. I'm existing.
Yeah. What's up? What's up? So today we're going to be getting into the origin story of X's titular
vision. Vision. Fuck. I just had a stroke. Today we're going to be getting into the origin story
of X's titular villain. Pearl. What happened to her to cause such murderous mayhem in later life?
Why was Pearl made at the same time as X? Is this the best period drama of all time?
Fucking is. I'm going to prove that. No, that's Carrie. I'm going to go. Oh, well it's about,
Oh, fuck you. Oh, fuck you. How did the, I started reassessing the film in my brain. I was like,
is it a period drama? Could it really be a period? No, she gets a fucking period.
Fuck you. How did the first world war influence cinema and how is this reflected in pearl back
on track? Nature versus nurture and which one fucked up our dearest pearl? And most importantly,
who is Mia Goth? Who the fuck is Mia Goth? I mean, genuinely I've asked you to answer that question
because I've just got questions and I'm like, I could research it. I could just get Ben to do it.
It's the fun thing to do in it. Outsourcing me. Yeah. So I learned that from Steve Jobs.
Oh, okay. There you go. I learned it from every interaction I have in my life. Like, oh Rob,
my camera's not working. It could be easy for me to research it, but it's far more fun to message
you panicking. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Came out in 2022. Did it? So just after X. Came out in 2022, six months after X. Well,
it came out six months after X in the US. Right. And then the UK, we had to wait a full fucking
year. Yeah. I remember this because I remember you griping about it. We were podcasting at this
point. We started podcasting in 2022 and you were like, let's cover Wheel and the Haunted Radiator
and Pearl. And I'm like, all right. And the microwave massacre. Okay. Whatever they were.
Thank you. And I'm like, yeah, man, they sound like they've got broad appeal and they'll really
help us do well on socials. And you're like, oh, but Pearl's not coming out for a year. And I'm
like, well, that bodes fucking well, doesn't it? But I didn't know it was a year. I was desperate
for it to come out. There was rumors everywhere and there was rumors that there were torrents
online. There fucking wasn't. And for nine months, I remember whinging at you being so like, buddy,
I still haven't fucking seen Pearl. And the American people that are tweeting and fucking
talking about Pearl. I'm like, I can't, I can't do it. There's only so many people that I can delete
on social media before word just a baron goes down. We're not following anyone because they've
mentioned Pearl at some point and I'm too immature to accept it. There was a long wait to see it.
I get it. It was like Trump's here. It'd be fine. We're mostly UK. Yeah, it's fine. That joke won't
land. It'll just skim. You know what I mean? So the film, it's been a week, mate. It's not too
soon anymore. Oh yeah. Fine. Get over it. You know what I mean? Also, it's not like he's listening.
He's only got one ear. Oh, also just a slight tangent here. I mean, this episode is already
a shambles, so why not throw more fuel on the fire? Exactly. Fuck it. Burn it. Say what you like
about deaf people. Cause we now do transcripts available on all the episodes. The podcast
distributor that we use allows us to do transcripts. So Ben, I'll go in and edit that last bit,
but no more jokes about the deaf here. Cause it's been a running theme for far too long.
Okay. If you edit the transcript to make it out, like I'm making the deaf joke in that one.
Ben, that would be, that would be the work of seconds and hilarious. How dare you assume that
I would do that? How dare you assume that I have the three minutes available to do that?
That I've already obviously pre-planned out. Okay. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine.
Transcripts you say I'll figure that one out. I'll message you at two in the morning. Rob,
how did transcripts work? The script with its own pronouns. Oh, okay. So Pearl cost
$8 million to make, which is a fuckload more than X had. What the fuck? Eight times as much,
but to be exact, but X hadn't come out. So like what financials were they basing this on? Just
imaginary numbers. Oh, so this is going to be an interesting one. Cause I have done some fucking
research for this one, mate. No, you haven't. Yes, I fucking have. I'm going to get into it
in a little bit. If you've gone deep, have you gone into a rabbit hole? But did you Charlie Day it
with the eyeliner and the red string? Yeah. This episode is going to have to be better because I'm
not going to lie. I've written an essay and there was no way for me to turn this into a conversational
piece because it's okay. I've been looking in encyclopedias. I've actually done like
25 hours worth of research. I did it for you. Encyclopedias. Yes, mate. It's a fucking history.
Are you an encyclopedia file? September 11th roll on. Let's get these fucking dad jokes snipped out
with the bollocks. A new listeners I'm getting of a sex bill on September the 11th. Ben's not being
incredibly racist towards Americans. Oh yeah. I should probably explain that. That's not just a
hate crime. It was a very funny observation on Rob's poor choice of the sex to me date.
Apologies. Let's get serious, Ben, because we're burning time and I sense that you've got a lot
going on. We need to get there fast because there is very little time. Very little time. We've got
quite a long breakdown as well, mainly because you thought you were writing one this week and
I thought... Oh, I did write one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You did. So I'll read that. But why don't...
You've written one. Why don't you hit play on the little soundscape? Remember last week?
Lovely little soundscape. Mate. Okay. I'm... Okay. Last week, last time it took me by surprise.
This time I'm prepped. I've been practicing my rapping. Oh, right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I've been singing along to Gambino's new album. Like I'm a fucking absolute G. Have you been
saying neighbor or ninja on all the N words? Neighbor. Good. It's better, isn't it? Neighbor's
my go-to. Yeah. I'm Mr. Rogers all the way. It's been really hot. Yeah. Yeah. It's been really hot. So I've
got my windows down. I can't be... You know what I mean? Right. Here's the jingle.
Ben, wrap us away, babe. All right, mate.
I've been living words of ecstasy...
Pearl in 18. Farm life's the scene. Dreaming big dreams. Wants to be seen. Mama's strict.
Daddy's sick. Life's a load. A pearl's got goals. Wants to hit the road.
Nelly met a guy. Sees a grand plan. Hollywood dreams. Gotta take a stand.
darkness creeps, twists her mind. Innocence lost, peace left behind.
After the turmoil of World War I and amidst the Spanish flu pandemic, young Pearl is stuck on a
desolate Texas farm with her overbearing mother Ruth and her paralyzed father. Pearl dreams of
a glamorous life as a dancer or a movie star far removed from the drudgery and isolation of her
current existence. She often sneaks away to the local movie theater where she befriends a charming
projectionist, played by a man who plays Superman, who encourages her dreams. Meanwhile, her husband
Howard is away fighting in a war. Pearl's yearning for freedom and her oppressive home life set the
stage for her growing desperation. Back to MC Dizzle.
Mama's control keeps... oh wait wait wait... two, three, four... Mama's control keeps the land
bound. Pearl's fire burns, can't keep it down. Death and desire twist and dance. T West's Pearl
takes her chance. Blood on her hands, reaching high. Horror story, touch the sky, ambition deadly,
fame's twist, Pearl's late, she don't miss. F***ing DMX towards the end there,
bud. It's good. Next time, give it to your buddy.
Pearl's friendship with the projectionist gives her a tantalizing glimpse into the world of
cinema and pornography, further distorting her perception of reality. Fueled by these fantasies,
she auditions for a dance troupe at the local church, seeing it as her escape route. However,
her dreams are shattered when she is rejected, pushing her fragile psyche closer to the edge.
And I'm about to break. As tensions escalate at home, Pearl's relationship with her mother
deteriorates into a violent confrontation. Pearl's frustration, resentment and delusions
intensify, leading to a series of gruesome acts as she struggles to break free from her
stifling life. Ben, take a s- Tale of Pearl. Dreams collide. Twisted world. Secrets hide. T West's
scene. Horror. Desire. Pearl's fame. Set screen on fire. Pearl's mental state spirals out of control,
culminating in a brutal confrontation where she kills her mother in a fit of rage. The projectionist,
realizing the danger Pearl poses, tries to distance himself but also falls victim to her growing
madness. Pearl's husband Howard returns from the war to find the aftermath of her rampage.
Confronted with the horrifying reality of Pearl's actions, he's left to deal with the shattered
remains of their life. The film ends on a haunting note, with Pearl completely consumed by her
delusions, setting the stage for the events that unfold in X Gon' Give It To Ya, X Gon' Give It To
Ya, X Gon' Give It To Ya. Buddy, I'm so fucking happy that we wrote two breakdowns this week
because not only is that going to be a fucking nightmare to listen to, you're welcome by the
way, dear listener. I feel like my rap career is just getting started, you know what I mean?
Honestly, I can see it blossoming. I've worked with worse.
Mate, that's a fucking compliment because I know the people that you've worked with.
I mean, to be fair, I did a fair bit of Kidz Bop and that was difficult. Yeah, but I bet it was
fire, full of the riz. I don't know slang terms. I mean, you used it correctly, but if I was to
riz a child, that would be illegal, Ben. Yeah, yeah. Fair point. It wasn't doing much.
All right, so back to the show. So back to the show, buddy. This is going to be one of those
shows where I have come up with a point with you in mind. This is the trilogy where I was like,
X is my film, Pearl is your film because you're into fucking period dramas and bullshit.
Don't say Maxine is both our films because I've not seen it yet and if you tell me I'll enjoy it,
I'll go fucking won't now. All right, then Maxine is a mystery. How about that?
Great, happy. Because I listened to Block Party last year. I was like, yeah, they are quite good.
Fuck you. I was in love with them for my entire life at uni. Okay, that's fine.
I'll get around to poly six eventually. Fuck you. They're incredible.
They're, oh, that's made me angry. So I'm going to argue in this episode that not only is Pearl
one of the best horror movies of the twenties to date, but I'm also going to argue that this is
one of the all time great period dramas. With Carrie.
I'll lock up there with Carrie. Carrie at number two. Okay. Great. Great. Great. Great. Great.
Great. Okay. Yep. So T West he's fucking insane at filmmaking. He has this incredible ability
to make his films like effortless, effortless. Oh my God. I can't fucking talk. What is wrong
with tongue? So Ty West has this insane ability to make his films efforts.
I'm going to kill myself. I'm going to do it. I can't fucking say this word.
Ty West has this insane ability to make his films effortlessly portray the cinema that is influences
his characters at that time. Right? So the period that they're set in what's happening in cinema
is affecting his characters in his film. It's meta as fuck, but it's done in such a subtle way
that unless someone points it out to you or you sit and you really think about it, you're like,
Oh my God. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He, he pure penny penny dropping moment. Right. He really,
really like commits to the era that he's portraying and uses the stereotypes and the signifiers of the
era that he's portraying in the movie. A thousand percent X was like, you know, it opened with that
four, three frame and everything looked blurry and like sepia, but like, uh, this one, wizard of
ours, primary colors, the soundtrack on this is incredible. And it's so like evocative of that,
like exactly era of cinema. It's beautiful, beautifully, beautifully. X does do that. And he
does it fucking beautifully. But what it's done with Pearl is in Pearl, it's reflecting the influence
of the first world war on how that affected cinema at the time. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
This is the history lesson, Rob. Are you ready for this? This is where the fucking hours of research
come into this. You ready? You ready to take a trip with, with all Papa? I am indeed. Yeah. All
right. My voice is fucked from rapping by the way. X gone give it to you. It's fucked my throat.
X can give it to you. Laryngitis is what he wrote that song about. Yeah. That's what he meant. Yeah.
Saw throat bit of a tickle. You know what I mean? So this fucking, this technical nightmare,
Rob, I'm dying. I'm actually dying. I don't know what's happening. I'm so sorry about this. I know
this is future Rob in the edit. I'm so sorry. This technical nightmare, fuel fever dream of a period
drama is Ty West flexing his fucking already impressive filmmaking muscles. Right? Yeah. X
being set in the seventies, the movie is dripping with seventies charisma. It fucking looks it,
it feels it, it sounds it, but most importantly, it fucking acts like a seventies movie should.
Yeah. It really does. Very subtle. There's plenty of room to breathe heavily leans into the genre.
You know, the VHS boom was happening. This is a small independent film crew trying to cash in on
that moment. Right. Pearl does exactly the fucking same with its 1918 ish reflection of cinema. Right.
The insane childish over the top technical primary colors. Everything is very sort of like basic,
basic, standard, standard, totally, totally, totally the continuous complimentary soundtrack
and the constant is this low brow carnival nonsense or is it fine art? Let me explain.
Right. There's a fair bit of that. There is a fair bit of that. Yeah. I've got, I've got feelings.
I've got feelings on the matter. Okay. I'm going to address these feelings, but what I want to do
is I want to paint the picture of cinema in 1918. I want to go, I want to take this is, this is not
you buddy. What the fuck? This is not me. I'm doing this to impress you. I mean, it's working
for you. It's working. This is just the tip. Wait until you see the shaft. It's hairy. Mildly.
Oh, hairier than the balls. That wasn't horrendously true. Pearl is the perfect reflection
of the era that it's set in. Right. 1918 is a different world of early cinema and the first
world war has obviously had a massive impact on this, but in more ways than you might think.
Also, if this sounds like I'm reading, I am. It's my essay. Fuck you. Enjoy it. Enjoy my research.
I couldn't turn this into a conversation. Just let me be. Okay. All right. Okay. I was gonna point out.
I'm curious to hear the research. This is a good development. Okay. So it helped the social
acceptance of cinema going partly down to the medium becoming the quickest way to sway public
support with of the war through propaganda and newsreels being shown in theaters. Right. So that
now is a broader appeal because people, you didn't have news back then. You didn't have like
fucking constant updates. You had to go places to get the fucking news fed to you.
Hence theaters, but also removed the working class stigma that cinema had gained over the years
during its fairground and carnival circuit days. Yeah. It was a little sideshow attraction, right?
It wasn't art. It was. Yeah. It was like, you wouldn't go to a refined evening with your nice
clothes on to watch clowns. Exactly. So this is where we're going to take a step back further
in time. Rob, you thought we're in 1918. Fucking sausage. We're going back. Right. You're going
back to 1914. Right. Come with me. Step in. Yeah. So pre-war cinema was confined to small venues,
like music halls, uh, before it was taken out on the road to like fairgrounds and carnivals
before finding its roots in like big purpose-built theaters. Right. And you're reminding the listener
of this, right? Because I definitely didn't tell you all this during the chaplain series that we
did like two months ago. I'm just, this is all for the listener. You're all for the listener.
You, this is, this is, yeah, it's implied. It's implied that you know this too. Cause I told you,
yeah, of course. This is where my research came. I just listened to one episode of you telling me
this exact stuff. I've gone deeper. I found an encyclopedia of the war and it had a bit about
cinema in it. So enjoy this. Ready? By 1914, the U S had 10,000 permanent cinemas. The biggest of
which being the Mark Strand theater in New York city, which had almost 3000 seats in one cinema.
That's fucking mental to me. That's, I can't remember the last film that I went to with more
than 60 people in it. Right. And that was a nightmare because it was far too busy. Can
you imagine going to a film that you're desperate to see June part three? Yeah. Right. Oh,
3000 fuckers are there and you're like, I cannot hear a fucking thing. No. Cause guess what?
Amplification shit in 1914. Yeah. Cause you're all sitting into like an acoustic dome. So you
have to sit 49 fucking feet away from anything to be able to hear it. But also now you're,
where's my little binoculars? You know what I mean? Where's my little, my, where's my little peepers?
So almost 3000 seats in that one theater. That's fucking disgusting. The UK had 5,000 permanent
cinemas offering a total seating capacity in the country of over 4 million. Right. Okay. Pretty
impressive. That's pretty impressive. One second. I just got to do some quick maths, bro. Don't
fucking fact check me on this one. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm dividing how many, so 4 million seats
in total. How many cinemas in total? 5,000. An average of 800 seats per cinema. That's not that bad.
But it's the UK. So you can guarantee that the majority of them had 12 and then one in London
had 3 million. Yeah. There was a fair whack in London that had like thousands and then small towns
would be sort of like, here's four chairs. Yeah. Yeah. They're deck chairs. And also the screen has
a side of my van. Enjoy. But the thing that blew my mind in this whole fucking encyclopedia that
I was looking at is, you know, pre-war Russia's been painted out to be this sort of like, it's all
gray and rainy and everyone eats nothing but potatoes. And it's so impoverished in this
out of rah rah rah. You know what I mean? Like the weird stigma that was put out there. Um, even in
Russia, I'll agree with you for the sake of your essay and just cringe internally. Yep. Yes. Yeah.
That's fine. Bolsheviks weren't a thing. That's fine. It's been a hundred years. You know, I mean,
we can, we can say that people have seen Anastasia, right? No, obviously not. But we can say that
people back in 1940 were racist. It's fine. Yes. Yeah. Okay. I'm with you. I'm with you. Even Russia
had 200 permanent cinemas in just St. Petersburg and Moscow. Yeah. Cause they were minted. That
blew my fucking mind. Why do you think they had a revolution? But I didn't know that. I didn't know
this. They're Maristocrats are being mad fair. Let's not invent communism. You've known me for
18 years now. At what point did you go, yeah, Ben probably understands what people thought about
Russia in 1914. What the fuck have I ever said in that vein ever? No, obviously I'm going to go for
the cheapest, cheesiest TV show. That is true. That is true. Yeah. That's probably, I like, I like,
I like your encyclopedic file phase. Thanks. This is good. I'm leaning into it. Yeah. I'm leaning into it.
So film was a hugely popular source of entertainment, but it also carried a reputation
of being working class, a lowbrow medium. And it was kind of held in contempt by the fine art
connoisseurs. So me and you back in 1940, mate, you'd have been nonce enough at the fucking opera
and I had been sitting in the back of the opera, walking off to the, to the opera.
Okay. And I'd have been, I'd have been mincing my way into a little fucking slapstick comedy show.
Do you know what I mean? With three people were possibly masturbating, but it's too dark to see.
Yeah. Yeah. Because comedy and burlesque and music hall, you get all the cool ones.
Cause I obviously you've got no prize of enjoying burlesque or comedy or music or music. No, no,
no. That's, that's your thing. That's live show. I'm on about film specifically. I'm not going to
watch a burlesque show. Fuck off. What are you talking about? Mate, you're missing out. Dead
eyed heroin addicts being like, look at my almost tits. Now I'm good. Go on. Just it's 1914's answer
to only fans. All right. I've got the encyclopedia. Rob, I know what I'm talking about. Research.
Okay. So speaking of now that we know that Russia wasn't as bad as everyone said it was right.
Right. Nicholas the second emperor of Russia wrote in 1913. I'm going to do the accent. I'm
not going to do it. Actually. No man. Slava. Ukraine. Do it. Okay. I consider the sun. No,
I can't do it. It's fine. No buddy. This racism is helping win a war in Eastern Europe. Okay.
So it's fine. The Ukrainian people need you. They need you. But any deaf person or hard of hearing
that is reading the transcript and saw the earlier edit, saw the earlier edit. Just know that that's
where it came from. All right. You keep the words speak louder than just saying it's going into a
permanent record now, Ben. And you called, you said I was noncing off at the opera, which implies
the existence of a brilliant and Lloyd Webber musical, the nonce of the opera. Oh God. Could
you imagine where he wears a full mask? I'd watch that. That's the thing. I'd watch it. That'd be
hilarious. What kind's written. Yeah. It'd be sung from children, but they're also in the wall.
I am the demon of music. That's a joke for people who've seen Phantom of the Opera. I didn't get it.
Did you let us know on discord, join us now where you can get more Phantom of the Opera humor and
Ben missing all of it. Fantastic. Nicholas the second emperor of Russia wrote in 1913. I considered
that cinema is an empty, totally useless and even harmful form of entertainment. Only an abnormal
person could place this farcical business on par with art. And then buddy, it's not just the Russian
side. Oh, fucking side too. Ready for this one. CFG mastermind, cunt. No, not cunt. Sorry. CFG
mastermind legend. Right. The fella in charge of the British propaganda during the first world war
suggested that film should be included in the media use for propaganda to the board of the film
sensors to which the secretary Joseph Brook Wilkinson. This one's the cunt. I misread my own fucking essay
right. Said what has the country really come to this cunt? Yeah. Anyway, we will swiftly move on.
Now we're, we're in the war, Rob. We're in the war now during the war. Cinemas we used to show
propaganda films, newsreels as a way to whip the audience into support in the war. Right.
Documentary films were made about the war and life on the battlefield came through and many
dramatizations were pushed out. But buddy, these proved to be difficult weapons to wield.
The materials could just as easily be prompt anti, the materials could just as easily prompt
anti-war sentiment after seeing what is truly happening to friends and families was fighting
for their country. Who'd have seen this one? I know. And I fact check this because I've read
a bit of the Manchester Guardian when they, when they covered the movie, the battle of,
the battle of the song. Yes. That's, that's a very important battle. It happened. Okay.
I mean, get over it. It was ages ago. I've got a fun, I've got a fun, fun fact for you, Ben,
nothing to do with films. So everyone else can stop listening because this is our specialist
subject. Enjoy it. Music, music round. Quick, quick little tangent. What have anarchy in the UK
by the sex pistols and we'll meet again. Don't know where, don't know when. What have they got in common?
Um, they're both shit. How dare you on both counts. I'm joking. They're both mint. They're both mint.
And they were both banned from the radio. Sex pistols because sex pistols. Yeah, of course.
We'll meet again because the war was on and they were like, that's making everyone very sad.
Oh, so that's not allowed to be played while the war's on because they're going off to Warren. We
know you're not going to see him again. I would really like to know. I'd love to know what the
Manchester guardian editorialized about that song. Unfortunately, the only research I've got is what
the editorialized about the battle of Psalm in which they said the more of the wars trappings
that are stripped from it, the more will men see its waste, its madness and its cruelty as well as
its glory. And the more earnestly will, will they cleave to peace. Right. So to bring it back to
film for you, do you remember when we covered all quiet on the Western front? I do. And the first
bit of the film is all the old blows going. The glory and the honor of war. Exactly. Yeah. That
was the public perception. So to show actual footage of it, people were like, that does not
look very honorable or glorious. Yes. So this is what I'm following. This is where society was
at. I love encyclopedia Ben. So the state of cinema is a tough one because they need the,
obviously it's becoming more and more popular and it's working well with propaganda, but the
films that they're making, the films that are releasing are sort of almost backfiring this way
anti-war kind of stuff. Right. So people are now leaning into the other form of cinema, which is
just pure entertainment. So the dancing, the stuff like, obviously the French had started
fucking on film cause why not France? You know what I mean? Like that's, that's just what happened.
But with this happening, distribution was getting increasingly difficult. It was mad difficult
during the war because films made in certain countries would not be screened in enemy, enemy
territories. And even allied countries would struggle with distribution. So now it's massively
limiting what's being able to be shown in cinema. Right. Now I'm glad that you're still with me.
I'm glad that you're enjoying it. More importantly, I can hear the nerd. I fucking heard the knock on
the desk about four minutes. It's the camera angle. My laptop's just getting higher and higher.
Pure ceiling right now. Literally all I've got now is top of nose. I mean, I don't even, I can't even
see your mouth because here's my point. Finally, we're back to Pearl. Right. Lovely. Ty West
captures all of this within Pearl, his universe building and his trust in the audience to fucking
be able to put two and two together and be sort of like, right. Okay. So the characters are literally
so the characters are living in that society. And this is the state of cinema in Pearl's universe.
In this timeframe, right? Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all there and it's fucking
beautiful. Pearl's from a younger generation. She's infatuated with this new form of entertainment,
right? All the glitz and the glamour and the fame that comes with it. She sees like, oh my God,
that's the perfect life. Everyone's lovely. Everyone's happy. Everyone's singing and dancing.
Oh, it's great. Pearl's husband has gone to war. Howard's gone to war. Right. And there's no
guarantee that she's ever going to see him again. There's no fucking way of knowing. So she's living
in that moment. Yeah. Cinema or show business is a ticket out of the isolated small town living
that feels like a prison sentence with the war and the Spanish flu being two of the meanest
fucking security guards you've ever did see. Yeah. Rougher than prison guards in S Craig Zala's
movies. I'm just, I'm just putting that one out there. They're fucking rough. Pearl's mother,
who's by today's standard holds wildly outdated opinions. Yeah. Outdated is 1918. You know? Yeah.
Of course. She's massively unsupportive of her daughter's dreams and it's part of the older
generation. You still view cinema as this weird sideshow waste of time. Yeah. For sure. With
yourself type shit. Right. Dancing. Generally. It's not a dancing time. She's like, there's a war on,
there's a pandemic and you're like, I want to go dancing. We've got no farm hands. What are you
doing? We have no farm hands. They're all dead in the Spanish flu. Yeah. Your dad's in a fucking
wheelchair. Help feed him. Stop running off to the cinema, sipping morphine. You know what I mean?
That's essentially where she's at. She's not wrong. She's not wrong. I agree. Not wrong.
Because you're also of the older generation would be sort of like, I need the opera. See? No, I just
feel like if there's shit to get done, do the shit then go cinema. Oh yeah. Maybe. Maybe.
And that makes sense actually. Yeah. I'm with you. I'm with you. All right. I'm there. But the
Spanish flu in this one, mate, it's such a fucking delicate, fantastic touch to all of this genius.
It's genius period drama that's unfolding in front of our eyes because it's reflecting what
Ty West and his crew and actors are going through in that moment in order to make that movie. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I say this whenever we come across a movie that's
nigh on perfect for me, I always say the story itself reflects what the filmmakers are going
through at that time, right? Because it's genuine, it's honest, and it's telling a story that they
know the most about because they're fucking living it. Yeah. And I can trust in that wholeheartedly.
It's this, it's this, the fucking everything that comes with it, the restrictions, the fear,
the fucking uncertainty is insane. Even down to the masks and the social distancing is all there
in the film to see, but it's so subtle that unless you really pay attention to it, you're just like,
oh, this was life then. Yeah. So that's all the time we have for this week. Join us for next week.
I'm so nearly done. I'm so nearly done, dude. Honestly, this is the cram de la cram. Okay.
It's the cram de la cram. Right. Ready? Is this going to be such a let down? No, I've built it up
too much. It's you in text versus you in bed. Oh yeah. This is it. This is me talking my game
and this is my game. You know what I mean? I've been talking for about 20 minutes. That's me
talking the game. Get ready for the game. Okay. Pearl's view of the people that she sees on screen
is largely amplified due to her own awful situation. She, she compares herself to these,
these sort of like on a pedestal dancing, happy people. Yes. Now this brings up the whole nature
versus nurture discussion, right? Right. Is Pearl fucked up by nature or is Pearl's fuckup
nurtured within her by the enormous amount of stress of the impossible situation,
the world is in right now, the world war pandemic, strict paranoid parents, rich, lavish,
almost carefree in law family that are just darting around, socializing, dropping pigs
off to people because they're, they're so rich and affluent and happy looking and healthy looking.
Is this Pearl fucked up by nature or is it nurtured within her from her own circumstances?
Here's the problem I have with this film. I love it. You're right. I think it does an incredible
job of drawing a parallel between what we tend to do today, which is see celebrities and go,
wow, that's great. They must not experience pain or have to do work. And I bet the fun that they're
having on screens is legitimate and authentic. And that's real. That if there's a real place
where I can just live dancing and happy all the time, cause I can see it on that screen.
And in her era, it's a cinema screen. And in our era, it's a phone screen. And in her era,
it's the Spanish flu. And in our era, it's COVID. Brilliant little, little link there.
Exactly. Fucking genius.
Nature versus nurture thing, I think is interesting because throughout the film,
she's killing animals. She's abusing her dad. She is stealing his medication. She's being
selfish as fuck towards her mom. She's taking allegory eggs and smashing them in her hand.
So I think there's some subtle subtext that she might be a little bit unwell.
Definitely. But my question is, is that her fault? Is she that, was she born that way or is it,
or is it the circumstances?
Right. So the current scientific understanding is that you can be born with predispositions,
but they have to be activated by nurture. So some people can never be nurtured into certain
behaviours because they lack the genetic ability. And some people are genetically able to do stuff
that never gets nurtured into their character. I don't think...
Wait, what the fuck? Hold on one sec. So the scientific standard, so I could be born
with the genetic predisposition to have fantastic C-cup tits, but it's never been nurtured in me.
In terms of character. So you can have a predisposition...
Well then character wise, I've got some voluptuous Ds. You know what I mean?
You do, buddy. You do. You make a jiggle jiggle smile every time.
Oh, the jiggle physics on my character Ds? Insane. You should see. I can't jog. I lose teeth.
Character teeth. All gone.
All gone. So you can be genetically predisposed to be much more likely to commit murder,
but you have to be raised in an environment that activates that genetic ability, right?
Pritzel's basement. Right. Or you can be genetically given longer fingers and a slightly
myopic focus ability, which can help you learn guitar because you're able to get around the
fretboard easier and you've got that kind of obsessive nature where someone goes, Oh, Mr.
Hendricks, do you want to come out and get drunk? And it's like, no, I'm going to practice going
for like another nine hours. Right? Yeah. But to be fair though,
worth it. Maybe do nine more. Right. Yeah. 1000% worth it.
So I don't think Pearl is evil by nature and I don't think it's her parents' fault. I think the
interesting thing that the film points out is that she's not able to distinguish between the
horrific reality that she's being shown in the war footage where they're going, this is real.
Okay. And then with no context given, it switches over to a fictional scenario, palace follies.
Right. Look at these people laughing, look at these people dancing, and you're supposed to
intuit and know subconsciously that that's a fantasy. Right. Okay. That that's not a real
place. Here's some news, here's some reality. Yeah. And then the screen goes dark and when
it comes bright again, this is a fiction. Got you. So on the one hand, she's being shown,
this is normal. This is fine. This kind of violence, this kind of death that happens.
We're just shooting it dispassionately. There's no alarm here. That's fine.
And then here's these smiling, laughing, happy people who are perfect. Right. But you should
know that's fictional. Yeah. Now most people do. How fucking delicate does the film do this?
Right. Really, really gently. Most people know the difference. Pearl doesn't because she's a
little, she's got a spicy brain. Yeah. Does that then place the responsibility for Pearl's actions
on the media? Remember when Oldboy came out and there were loads of people going.
There was. Or someone got killed with a hammer and people are complaining. Or call of duty with
the Columbine shooters. And I'm like, should media have to cater to the lowest common denominator?
Cause some nutter out there is going to watch Oldboy and then go grab a hammer.
This is a very interesting point and it brings up one of my favorite quotes of all time. It's
one that I live by and it's one that's got me through the last few years of fucking spicy brain
myself. Right. Don't stop believing. It's live, laugh, love. No, it's Red Sky and Night Shepherds
to Life. That's the one. Yeah. She'll be 18 one day. Ah, pre-order it. You know what I mean?
Too quick. Yeah. It was horrible. I hated everything about that entire joke sequence.
What I'm saying is my favorite quote that's got me through the last three years of spicy brain
is help me being sober. It's helped me get back on my feet. Ish. I'm nearly there. Right. Um,
it's that your mental health isn't your fault, but it is your responsibility. Yes. Yes, yes, yes,
yes. It's not your fault that you're genetically predisposition to have a spicy brain, but it's
your responsibility to make sure that spicy brain be you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Keep
it fucking smoked paprika. Let's not go cayenne pepper. You know what I mean? Other people are
eating around you. They don't want spicy ice. You fucking hit the nail on the head with this one,
man. I don't think that media needs to cater to anyone or anything. I think it should be a
complete free rein to say and do what you want. Right. Abu Hamza can just be as popular as he
likes. Whatever the fuck, whatever the fuck appeals to you, appeals to you. If you're a piece of shit
person, you're going to watch all the right wing bullshit. You know what I mean? It's fine. That's
fine. But it's not the media's fault that you're allowing it to dictate who you are as a person
or what matters to you. Yes. You know what I mean? And so with the nature versus nurture thing,
I think there are elements within Pearl's life that lead towards her actions, but they do not
excuse her actions. Oh God, bud. I fucking love that we're doing this film right now. I have
never agreed with you so fucking aggressively in my life. I swear. I just want to fucking hug this
out. You know what I mean? Just fucking just bear grip it out. Ty West, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's,
I just, I don't, I don't understand it. I don't understand how it just goes. Well, oh, okay. So
so I'm just going to throw this film together. And then all of a sudden, also it's a complete
social breakdown of everything that's going on at every point in history ever. I'm just going to
throw my hand at anything. And do you know what? I'll break it down for you. You ready for this?
Well, he's incredible. I, well, I say he's incredible. He's capable. I think there is
another creative force in this film because this film is a brilliant idea for a film. It is,
but you have to have the actors able to do it. Do. I don't think you could do this film with say,
Eddie Murphy in drag as. It'd be a different film. Norbit. It'd be a different,
yeah. Or yeah, it would be Norbit too. Right. I suppose given the time period,
it would be a very different film anyway, but I was going to, I was going to crack a joke.
I didn't feel like I was ready to, but we got there. No, we don't need, but I think
a less capable actress, Dakota Johnson could not have made this film. What it is.
You say that, but we've all seen mad Madame Webb. You know what I mean? We've all seen
cinematic. I unironically kind of enjoy Madame Webb because it's so bad, but same. Meagoth.
I have learned nothing about her. Right. And the things I have learned have made me upset.
She's kicking extras in the head currently being sued for that. Well, I don't think we've got time
to cover that. She married Shia LaBeouf. She did. She married Shia LaBeouf in 2016 after all of his
many public abuse allegations and convictions. I think she saw it as a challenge. She was like,
I'm going to get a platinum trophy on that one, mate. Platinum that one. Oh yeah. When she saw
Shia LaBeouf and just went, I think all those other women were just pussies. Yeah. That's exactly
what it was. These abuse allegations came out. She went pussies and then immediately started
chasing that marriage. And I mean, I think that was the reaction. Cool. They've been married for
fucking years, right? The relationship has been like up and down, up and down. Are they still
married? They separated for a bit and then they reconciled and it's still a thing. Oh God.
I think. I'm not too clued up. Right. Okay. Where does she come from? Because she's definitely not
called Mia Goth. Because it just sounds like a racist interpretation of, it sounds like an
Italian Goth explaining their fashion choice. Her name isn't Mia Goth. Her name is actually
Pepper Pig. Mia Gypsy Mello De Silva Goth. Oh my God. What's her actual surname is Goth.
Does she have hippie parents? Cause that explains a lot. No, Brazilian and Canadian. Right. Okay.
But all of her middle names are like, I'm not going to lie. All of my research time went on
the encyclopedia. I've got like six bullet points on Mia Goth to be honest. Way better. Way better.
I much preferred the encyclopedia file to, well, come back to Mia Goth. It's fine because I think
she's been in a few bits, right? She's been in a few bits. Nymphomaniac was a first film. Right.
Okay. I watched that, but I wasn't really concentrating on the plot. No one's seen the
end of that film. It's like, have you ever tried watching porn after you've come? It's disgusting.
It's just that film. I mean, I'm ex cocaine addict, but then yes, I've seen all of Nymphomaniac.
You've seen all of porn. Like there is, there's got to have been times when you were like,
this isn't going to end. This isn't going to end. Yeah. I mean, there's chunks I've not seen. Okay.
The guy on guy stuff's less interesting to me. Really? I mean, you're the, you're the bendy one.
I'm just like, ah, that's fine. The bendy one. Yes. You're the bendy one. And I'm just like,
that's perfectly a pleasant, but not for me. You know, these, these, what polite young guy.
Exactly. Oh, they're having a lovely time. They're just, aren't they having a lovely time?
So no, they're not. Even when they're doing the thing, I'm like, well, that's nice for them.
Oh, bless Steve. He's really into Ian. They must be great friends. That looks, that looks like a
fun time. That's just not available to me. It's the weirdest sentence that I'm about to say,
but I would fucking kill for you to just commentate on gay porn for that exact storyline right there.
Oh, what a lovely interaction. We'll upload a porn hub video one day. Okay. Just hello. Welcome
to the Every Movie Ever podcast. And we're just reviewing, we'll do a live watch along of gay
porn. If we ever do a live show, we'll just load some gay porn. We'll have to be an 18 plus event
and I'll just, I'll do it like it's the Olympics. We'll do a song. Yeah. We'll commentate,
we'll spectate it through. We'll do some action replays. Just be there going, oh, and he's speeding
up. Pace is increasing. Yeah. There we go. That's fantastic textbook move there. Now you join us at
the long jump. Oh, and there it goes. That was 3.2 feet over Ian's back. There we go. So she was a
nymphomaniac. No one's ever seen the end of that film. Anyway, this gave her a fucking open door
into Hollywood being sort of like she can take on challenging and unconventional parts, right? Yes.
I mean, so following that she was in stuff like the survivalist, not seen it, a cure for wellness.
Great film. Fucking great film. Yes. Did you remember her in it? I did. Yes. Okay. Well,
there you go. Fuck me then, right? Um, okay. Let's just skip past this whole bit that I have for that.
That's fine. Uh, but goth really got popular with the remake of Suspiria, which is a bag of shit.
Yeah. I didn't bother watching it. If Tom York does the soundtrack, I'm like, that's going to be
shit then. Yeah. It's fucking wanky. It's just wanky. The original Suspiria is way better. The
original soundtrack is way better. Go listen to Goblin. I like Tom York's music. I hate his film
taste. I just fucking hate Tom York. If I'm honest. I remember bumping into him once and saying,
can you sign my radiohead CD? It was after a gig. Can you sign my radiohead CD? And he went, why?
And then just walked off. I mean, but did you answer him? No. Well then. Because I was, I was
so into Tom York at the time. I was like, yeah, fuck it. Why am I into this material bullshit?
I threw my CD away, but then I also really wanted my fucking CD. So I was like, that guy's a dick.
Do you know what I mean? Okay. It's a complicated relationship with Tom York. I get it. It was,
it was an odd, it was an odd mix of emotions that I was going through in a time when I wasn't
really sure. And that's exactly what I have with Mia Goth. Okay. Because I think she is Pearl in a lot of ways
and doesn't. Okay. Okay. How, how so? I think from everything I've seen of Mia Goth,
yeah, even the fucking name, even the like, I'm a, she, Pearl goes through the entire movie going,
but I'm a star. Right. Right. I'm a star and that's what's going to make me happy. And that kind of,
it's a criticism of that externalization of happiness into when I'm a big shot, I'll matter.
Right. Right. And then you read the allegations against her where she's kicked this guy in the
head and it's quoted as saying, nobody will believe you because you're nothing. Get the fuck off my set,
you big baby. I think that kind of, wow, sense of what I'm doing is important because it's art.
I'm not an entertainer and I'm not a person. I'm a star. I'm an artistic star. I'm going to marry
Michelle LeBouf and Shia's gonna platinum that abuse trophy. Right. And I'm going to go, I'm the shit.
And I just, there's a level that there's a lack of self awareness that I see in Mia Goth of like,
if I saw her in interviews and she was like, yeah, it's just a job. You know, I'm doing a job
and I'm glad that people enjoy it, but it's not. It's very much like, yes, I'm the greatest artist.
I mean, and then to make Pearl not be aware. Oh, okay. You remember, like I don't watch
Christopher Nolan interviews because it makes him worse for me. Yeah. This is, this is the same for
me. I don't like peeking behind the curtain sometimes. Maybe, maybe for Maxine, watch a few
interviews with her and be like, Oh, I don't know if I can. I don't know if I can. She's one of those
people like after infinity pool, I'm unashamedly a little bit in love with Mia Goth. Right. Okay.
You know what I mean? I kick me in the fucking head and pull me a piece of shit. I figured out
your taste in women, by the way. Okay. How old were you when you watched the animated film Rango
starring Johnny Depp? I've never seen it. Really? I've never seen it. Cause there's a chameleon in
that, that I think would drive you insane. Okay. It's an anthropomorphic chameleon. That's a wild
west lady and she's got chameleon eyes. So they're massive and they're on the side of her head.
All right. I'm invested. And I would have, I would have put good money on you watching Rango at a formative age and just going,
that's, that's what a sexy woman is to me. Okay. A chameleon in a dress. Yeah. Because Mia Goth,
you could describe her as a chameleon. Anya Taylor Joy, I'm surprised she's got more fingers than three.
Take, you get my fucking wife's name out of your fucking mouth. All right. I'll walk on this stage
and slap you in the mouth. I don't care. All right. Fuck the Oscars. Ban me. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
No, you raised good points. I think my issue was, is that during my filmative years, I watched a lot
of movies about aliens. Right. And yeah, you know, I mean, it's the kinky thing, right? They scare me. It's a weird thing.
Yeah. It's that. So because it's scary, it kind of becomes a bit, yeah. Someone told me, if I told you this,
someone told me, uh, Helen at boardroom game cafe told me that owls his face is just an ear, but they
have like a, like a concave. Ben, you've gone from like just like the media, Ben with well researched
to someone at a cafe told me that owls his face. Firstly, plural of owls is not owls is.
And well, they are owls. Owls. No, that doesn't sound right. Owl is the singular. Yeah. Owls is the plural.
Owls is two. And then anything like owls in general for all of them together. Owls is okay. Cool. Cool. Cool.
We've gone from encyclopedia, Ben telling us about Russian history in 1914, which I loved by the way.
Thank you. I did that for you. Back to our regularly scheduled programming of Ben going
owls his face is just ear. It is though. Isn't that fucked up? That's fucked up. Don't play it off.
Like you're not impressed right now. That's terrifying. Anyway, where are we? Is this the show?
Are we helping the show? I mean, if I've done something good, I'm going to round out the show.
You've done brilliantly this week. I'm very impressed with the research.
Thank you. I have one little bit because you asked the question. You were like, why was this made at
the same time as X? And I have answers for you. Right? Right. So Ty West started writing Pearl
with Miragoth whilst X was still in production. Okay. So Miragoth had signed on before X had
finished production. They were like, yes, we're going to do this. It's going to be fucking great.
They kept it secret from everyone because no one knew. The only people that knew were A24 who were
like, okay, well you're on the set. You've built a ton of shit and I guess it makes financial sense
for you to just make another film while you're there. Yeah. Yeah. Just stay there for a bit.
And make a workshop around the corner so you can get some severed heads and whatnot. Yeah.
Exactly. And fucking obviously A24 are the coolest, apart from Orion,
A24 are the coolest fucking people and 88 films. What am I talking about? They're one of the coolest
fucking, you know, producers of films at this point. Yeah. 100%. They were like, yeah, fucking
do it. This whole film was a secret and it was only revealed at the premiere of X at the South
by Southwest when they included a teaser trailer for another feature length film that was about
to come out six months later. And everyone there was like, what the fuck did he just say? I'm
sorry. We've just witnessed cinematic genius and then gone, oh yeah, but by the way, here's another
one. The sequel's already made. So the sequel's made. Yeah. I'm just, you know, I'll knock it out.
I love the idea that they did it in secret. So everyone involved in the, General Tager and
everyone else involved in the making of his film X would have been a hundred percent sure that her
and Ty West were fucking. Oh, a thousand percent. They'd have been like, they keep going off.
They don't tell us what they're up to. And then only at the premiere of X were they like,
oh, they were making a film without us. There was another WhatsApp group.
Can you imagine? Oh my God. I didn't even think about that. Right. Can you imagine their reaction?
They just see the teaser trailer and they're like, what the fuck? I was there. Yeah. Oh my God.
That's amazing. Didn't want me in the film then. No. Yeah. Fuck you then. Right. Oh, right. So she
can be in both, but you couldn't have just found like, I dunno, a fucking market holder or a driver.
Mia goth gets fucking two roles in X and I get killed off. Yeah. Okay. Sound. All right. Sound.
She gets three roles. Yeah. Incredible. Fucking great. I've got a quote from him as well. I've
got a quote from, I got a quote from Ty West in an interview talking about how this all came to be.
And he says, I came out of quarantine and I was like, we're already building all this stuff. It's
COVID and we're on the one place on earth where it's safe to make a movie. We had the whole crew
from Avatar two who were on break. We should make two movies. And then he said the miracle of a 24
was that they thought this was actually a good idea. I love this man so much, Rob. I cannot put
into words how much I love. You buried the lead on the fact that this was made by the same people
who made Avatar two. Yeah. Same crew. They were on break because of COVID. Did I not mention that
in my Russian research in my 1918 travel back in time history lesson? Well, that's a great fact
about the, uh, the making of Pearl. Just saw it sprinkle that on top for you. You know what I mean?
Just the very last, just as the desk, that's you going back for the hat of the episode.
Yeah. The doors close. Yeah. That's exactly what it is. And unfortunately that is all the time
you've got for this week. That's all the time we've got, man. That's it. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Actually, low key love that we've spent an hour and there's one fact about this film.
At one minute, one hour and one minute, there's one fact about this film.
Yeah. Do you remember earlier, how I use it? I said, don't worry. This movie facts coming this
fuckhole. No, there is no really realistically there was movie fact coming. You know what I mean?
And it came, we delivered you welcome, dear listener. Welcome to the show. This is where we
amble through life. That's all the time we've got for this week. We love you dearly. You're so welcome.
I'm going to, we love you all very dearly. We do. I'm going to, I, Ben's going to wrap up the
thoughts, themes and feelings of this week's film. To thank you for spending time, especially at the
start of your week. I'm just going to tell you to consume. It's just consume out. Dude, we've missed
everything. There's no outro in this show. I've done fucking Russian research. There's no outro.
Fine. Okay. Find something that you love doing, become fucking amazing at it. And then when
someone pays you to do it, fuck it, do it twice. You know what I mean? I don't know. There's
something in there. Don't be Pearl or be Pearl. Depending on your genetic predisposition. I'm
going to nurture you either way. You know what I mean? Be the best fucking you. Oh, the rate in
you. Uh, I am going to rate it a nine. How would you rate it? Just a fucking eight. Are you joking?
Are you seriously going to rate this an eight? This was supposed to be your film.
Okay.
Can you not hear that? Yeah. What? May there's like someone screaming like Texas chainsaw massacre.
Screaming. Yeah. What the fuck? Is this your mental neighbor again? I don't know who is
is. I'd fuck off. I don't know who it is, but fuck off. You live in the neighbor. Texas
chainsaw massacre. Just go shut up. He's a murderer. Shut the fuck up. Shut up.
I heard a little glimmer of something then. What's that?
Oh my God. Is that real? Yes.
Okay. Well that's fucked up.