1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,440 Hello everyone and welcome to the Every Movie Ever podcast. 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,000 My name is Ben Groves! 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,720 And my name is Rob McFarlane and welcome to the show, a movie podcast slash mental health 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,480 check-in for two broken brained best friends. 5 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,480 Broken! 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,200 Talking around their problems, but not about their problems. 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,200 Never! 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,440 We're laughing at movies. 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,840 But given that this is a thinly veiled mental health check-in, Ben, before we get to what 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,760 we're doing, how are you doing, babe? 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:38,760 How are you doing? 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:39,760 Oh, thank you very much, sir. 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:40,760 I am... 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,720 I'm doing good, man. 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,440 First off, fuck this heat. 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,120 It is a thousand degrees. 17 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,440 I hate every second of it. 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,440 I'm melting. 19 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:49,960 I look like I'm melting. 20 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,440 I feel like I'm melting. 21 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,440 Fuck this heat. 22 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,680 On that note, I just need to close my window and get even warmer because my neighbors are 23 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,640 doing a domestic violence. 24 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,600 And that'll be sad on the show, won't it? 25 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:00,600 Kind of. 26 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,200 I mean, we say some, we say some close shit. 27 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,600 I don't know what they're saying. 28 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Are they cracking bangers? 29 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,600 What are they doing? 30 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,000 Is it like a proper domestic violence or is this just sort of like a, ah, fuck you. 31 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,000 You lost a tooth. 32 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,160 They're just moving a chest of drawers and, you know, and they've dropped it. 33 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,160 Good thing I closed the window. 34 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,160 Oh, there you go. 35 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,160 Yeah, yeah. 36 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,160 No, the heat is intolerable. 37 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,920 I'm glad I closed my window and yeah. 38 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,200 In summation, fuck the heat. 39 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,200 Childish Gambino is a fucking wizard. 40 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,800 I haven't got time to get into that, but his new album broke my brain today. 41 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:27,960 And I don't know where my glasses are. 42 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:28,960 I've lost my glasses. 43 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:29,960 I need to read. 44 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:30,960 I can't read. 45 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:32,960 So this is the show. 46 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:35,760 How are you buddy? 47 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,960 My car continues to cause me issues. 48 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:38,960 I went out. 49 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:39,960 Fucking hell, what's going on now? 50 00:01:39,960 --> 00:01:44,000 Well, I went out to get some milk, got my shopping. 51 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,520 Because canvas bags, you know, I care about the planet. 52 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,760 I keep my canvas bags in the boot and I wheel the trolley out to the car and I packed the 53 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,800 shopping in the boot. 54 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,280 Closed the boot, realized I've left my keys in the boot. 55 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,280 What? 56 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,680 That's my only way into the car and the dog's in the back. 57 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,680 So right. 58 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,480 So some nice, some nice police officers stopped by to get a sandwich. 59 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,800 I'm like, please, can you break my car window for me? 60 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,400 First off, that's the poshest trip to the thing. 61 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:15,040 I only use canvas bags and I accidentally left my car in my bags. 62 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,480 What fucking old woman shit is that? 63 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,960 Why do you have your car keys in your fucking canvas bags? 64 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,960 Pockets exist, buddy. 65 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:23,960 Pockets exist. 66 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:24,960 I had them in my pockets. 67 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,960 I opened my boot. 68 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,800 I put my keys down and I've got nine million bags for life because bag for life is to bag 69 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:31,800 for that shopping trip. 70 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,800 How much milk did you need? 71 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:34,800 A fair bit. 72 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,640 I'm the homelander of Dursley, mate. 73 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:39,920 Yeah, I was going to say, fuck it all. 74 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:40,920 What are we doing this week, Ben? 75 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:41,920 We need to move on. 76 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:52,360 This week, buddy, we are doing quite possibly the most important entry into the Alien franchise. 77 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,600 And we both agree on that fact, but for wildly different reasons. 78 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,200 Alien 3 or Alien Cube. 79 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,120 Because wherever I write it, it comes up with a little three, like cubed. 80 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,120 It's a little three. 81 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,120 Yeah, yeah, it's a little three. 82 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,560 It's Alien Cube. 83 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,000 This is my favorite Alien film by a wide margin. 84 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,000 Oh, God. 85 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,560 It is also the second worst Alien film by a wide margin. 86 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,700 It's like Alien and Aliens at 99th percentile. 87 00:03:17,700 --> 00:03:22,080 This is 20th and then Alien Resurrections, you know, bottom of the heap. 88 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,320 At least it's a fucking story that hasn't been told twice. 89 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:26,320 I'm going to get into it. 90 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,320 Sorry, I'm going to get into it. 91 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,320 Sorry. 92 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,320 Get into it. 93 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,320 Get into it. 94 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,320 No, no, no. 95 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,320 But I have over researched, Ben. 96 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,120 And so what I'm going to do is I'm just going to use you like a mouth puppet. 97 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,560 And I've had to... 98 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,000 I've got such a long section that I've just given you prompts. 99 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,840 Because I don't want to spoil what I have to tell you. 100 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,320 I want you to hear this on air. 101 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,640 Buddy, you've been saying this to me for two fucking weeks now. 102 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,080 I've been desperate to record just to find out what this fucking FOMO is. 103 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,560 Because I've been doing nothing but sitting around being sort of like, well, this sounds 104 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,040 like a magical episode. 105 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,200 And then you were like, hey, I'm going to give you some words. 106 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,400 Can you just write a punch line with these words with zero context? 107 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,400 And I was like, sure. 108 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,400 Put it this way. 109 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,520 When Christopher Nolan met with one of his favorite directors, David Fincher, who directed 110 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,320 Alien cubed, Alien 3. 111 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,320 He did. 112 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,880 He was desperate to ask David Fincher about this film. 113 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,040 But Christopher Nolan was unwilling to bring it up. 114 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,520 He was too scared to talk to David Fincher about it. 115 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,880 Because David Fincher famously does not talk about this film. 116 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,600 I can't possibly guess why. 117 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,760 Can you imagine Christopher Nolan, the poshest director in the world, sat there going, I 118 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,240 just, I really want... 119 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,240 I can't. 120 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,240 I can't. 121 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,240 I've directed Inception. 122 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,120 I've directed the Batman trilogy. 123 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,720 I've directed fucking cinema classics. 124 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,640 And I'm unwilling to bring this up to David Fincher. 125 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,920 I think that makes me like Chris Nolan a little bit more because I'm like, fair play. 126 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:52,920 That's respect. 127 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,920 Respect on Nolan's scarf. 128 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:54,920 You know what I mean? 129 00:04:54,920 --> 00:05:00,320 In all fairness though, if we ever meet Fincher, it's the first thing that's coming out of 130 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,320 my mouth and it's going to irreparably damage any sort of potential relationship going forward 131 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,320 ever. 132 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,320 It's the first thing that's coming out. 133 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,880 Hi, my name's Ben Groves. 134 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:08,880 Alien 3? 135 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:09,880 Can we? 136 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:10,880 Can we? 137 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,120 You will irreparably damage, probably more than this episode. 138 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,280 This episode will probably do it. 139 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:17,280 Oh yeah, this episode will bury us. 140 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:19,600 If David Fincher ever listens, yeah, yeah, right. 141 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,800 So we are talking development hell. 142 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:22,800 Poison chalices. 143 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:23,800 Bad CGI. 144 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:24,800 Worse people. 145 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,040 Ripley's ever-changing boss eye. 146 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,040 The abuse of power. 147 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,720 And God himself as told through romantic poet William Blake. 148 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,160 I fucking hate this already. 149 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:44,560 I'm sorry, I'm so, the rage bubble is actively, actively vibrated at the moment, right? 150 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:45,560 It's going to get better. 151 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:50,080 Also later in the show, we've got expert insight from Alien the 8th Passenger, our favorite 152 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,560 alien Instagram account. 153 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,160 Yeah buddy. 154 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,160 Love that guy. 155 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,120 Ben, this film cost $50 million to make. 156 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,120 That's outrageous. 157 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,480 They spent $50 million on this. 158 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:00,480 On what? 159 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,480 In 1992. 160 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,480 On what? 161 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,480 Where's the money? 162 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:08,720 Let me tell you, so little of that amount of money made it into the film. 163 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,160 Oh my fucking God. 164 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,160 Shocker. 165 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,160 Right. 166 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,480 This made just shy of $160 million, which- 167 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:16,480 How? 168 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,680 You get, no, no, no, no, Ben, that's a massive flop as far as the studio is concerned. 169 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:21,680 Oh sure. 170 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,000 Let me ask you this, adjusted for inflation, right? 171 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,000 It costs them. 172 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,520 So fuck 1992 money, today's money. 173 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:33,800 This film would have cost $120 million to make and would have made $380 million. 174 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:34,800 Oh okay. 175 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,460 All right, put it in that term. 176 00:06:36,460 --> 00:06:40,800 Let me ask you this way, if June 3 came out and made $380 million- 177 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,880 Right, okay, yeah, I see your point. 178 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,720 $380 million total, devastating for June 3. 179 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,240 I guess this is the same thing, right? 180 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,320 Yeah, this is the same thing because back in the day when Alien Cubed came out, Aliens 181 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,680 was like one of the biggest franchises on the planet, right? 182 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,640 Anticipation was fucking huge. 183 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,480 Yeah, I can imagine. 184 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,480 Fuck man, okay, yeah. 185 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,480 Right? 186 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:07,720 It had been a long time since the last film, people were like fucking catting for this. 187 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:13,080 We're covering this because we're covering every Aliens movie ever in the main series. 188 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,080 Yes we are. 189 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,080 It's one of our favourite franchises. 190 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,080 It is. 191 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,080 This is my favourite film in the franchise. 192 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,080 That's outrageous. 193 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,880 I know it's not the best, but it is my favourite. 194 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:20,880 Outrageous. 195 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,440 This film, had you seen it before? 196 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,360 When we were texting, you were like, oh I hate this film, I hate Ron Perlman and I'm 197 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,120 like motherfucker, wash your mouth. 198 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,840 Hold on, let me clarify this. 199 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,000 You text me out of context and said, before you watch the film, because I know you haven't 200 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,080 seen it in a long time, what are you waiting for in this? 201 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,080 And I was like prison. 202 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,080 Ron Perlman in prison. 203 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,880 You were like that's Alien 4 and I was like, then I don't remember this film. 204 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,320 Right, right, okay. 205 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:54,440 I watched this when I was young and I remember having a very similar reaction to the reaction 206 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:59,360 that I had when I walked out of the cinema of episode one, Phantom Menace. 207 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:04,640 And I was furious because I was loving life in the Star Wars universe up until that point 208 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,760 and then I walked out and was like, well that's just punched my fucking childhood square 209 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:08,760 in the face. 210 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:09,760 Right. 211 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,080 Similar reaction to this, never watched it again. 212 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,160 Until now! 213 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,240 I did the opposite. 214 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:21,800 I watched it and it was, it took something I love and it destroyed it, but there was 215 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,160 something in the wreckage that I've not found anywhere else. 216 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,160 Trauma. 217 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,200 And it's only in the process of doing this episode that I've found your kink. 218 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,880 Why this is my favourite. 219 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:34,880 Okay. 220 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:35,880 Right? 221 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:36,880 Okay. 222 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:37,880 Well I'm interested to hear this one. 223 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:38,880 We're going to have a breakdown. 224 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:39,880 We are. 225 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,720 We're having a breakdown. 226 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,440 And you've written this week's breakdown where we go through the plot with a fucking tooth 227 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,440 comb. 228 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,440 I have. 229 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,440 So people know what we're talking about earlier. 230 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,440 There's spoilers. 231 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:52,440 All right. 232 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,440 There's spoilers. 233 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,440 This is the briefest one. 234 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:55,440 This is the spoiler warning. 235 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,440 This is the spoiler warning. 236 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,440 But it's also from the nineties. 237 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:58,440 It's essentially 30 so much years old. 238 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,440 30 years. 239 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:00,440 I don't know. 240 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,440 Yeah. 241 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,440 Fuck you. 242 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:03,440 Go watch it. 243 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,440 It's been out forever. 244 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:05,440 If you're upset by the spoilers, it's on you. 245 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,440 Love you, but also grow up. 246 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:07,440 You know what I mean? 247 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,440 So it's your fault. 248 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,400 Here's a film I've not seen from 30 years ago. 249 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,160 Let me click on a podcast about it. 250 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,040 I'm sure they won't mention the plot. 251 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,040 Absolutely. 252 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,640 Egg on your face. 253 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,600 Egg on your face. 254 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:21,600 I've written this breakdown. 255 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,360 It is the briefest one that I've ever written. 256 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,560 I think it's also the most factually accurate one that I've ever written. 257 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:31,240 Also, I had to keep it brief because it made me angry type in the show. 258 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,680 Because after about 20 minutes, I'm like, this is 20 fucking minutes of my life on this 259 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:35,680 fucking film. 260 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:36,680 Again. 261 00:09:36,680 --> 00:09:37,680 Are you ready? 262 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:38,680 Yes, please. 263 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:41,480 Part one, a gift from God. 264 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,240 Because she fell from the heavens. 265 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,240 Get it? 266 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,240 Yeah, it's pretty good. 267 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,240 Thanks. 268 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:51,160 After escaping the alien infested spaceship in aliens via automated escape pod, an unconscious 269 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:57,880 Ellen Ripley crash lands on Fiorina 161, a bleak and desolate prison planet inhabited 270 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:03,160 by male inmates with a self-sustaining religious community made up almost entirely of pedos 271 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,360 and rapists. 272 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:05,360 Take that Catholicism. 273 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,360 Wow, Rob. 274 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:07,360 That's a sharp take there. 275 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,360 Coming out of the gates hot there, buddy. 276 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:17,160 Ripley is the sole survivor of her escape pods crash, but unknown to her, an alien facehugger 277 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,560 has also made it to the planet. 278 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:24,680 As Ripley recuperates under the care of the prison's medical officer, Dr. Clemens, played 279 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:29,320 by Charles Dance, the prisoners become wary of her presence. 280 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,560 Part two, the mom alien. 281 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:32,560 Get it? 282 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:34,920 It's like mammalian, but mom really good. 283 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:35,920 Thanks, man. 284 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:36,920 I'm actually really happy with that. 285 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:37,920 Thank you. 286 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:38,920 Thanks. 287 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:45,200 Ripley discovers that the escape pod also contained an alien egg, which has unleashed 288 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:53,240 a deadly xenomorph dog type thing into the prison via a dead ox. 289 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,240 Because we watched the assembly cut, not the theatrical. 290 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,120 We'll get to that. 291 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,120 Yay. 292 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:04,720 The alien starts to kill the inmates one by one, spreading fear and chaos. 293 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,920 Ripley tries to convince the prison authorities and the inmates of the danger that they are 294 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:17,480 in, but they are initially skeptical because yet again, let's just write a bunch of fucking 295 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:22,240 male characters that don't listen to Ripley because woman. 296 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,240 Yeah. 297 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:30,180 As the body count rises, Ripley and the inmates do something we've never seen before. 298 00:11:30,180 --> 00:11:36,800 They form a plan to seal off an area of the prison, just like in aliens, but this time 299 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,160 to trap and kill the alien. 300 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,800 Not quite the same as aliens, but it's fucking identical. 301 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:49,060 During this time, Ripley also learns that she carries an alien embryo within her. 302 00:11:49,060 --> 00:11:50,440 Fuck you, right? 303 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,360 Implanted by a facehugger during her hyper sleep. 304 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,360 Ha. 305 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,440 Part three, going out with a bang, joke, joke, it's shite terminator. 306 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:04,720 Uh, Ripley learns that the Weyland-Yutani corporation wants the alien embryo inside her for their 307 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,240 bio weapons division. 308 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,160 Yes, just like the last two films, but somehow we're meant to be surprised at this point 309 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,160 for why. 310 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,160 What? 311 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,040 For the weapons division? 312 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:18,280 And is sending a rescue team knowing that they will not destroy the alien, but rather 313 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,680 exploit it. 314 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:24,400 Ripley decides to sacrifice herself to ensure the xenomorphs destruction. 315 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:29,720 In a climactic battle, the inmates managed to trap and kill the alien in a furnace. 316 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:34,040 As the rescue team arrives, Ripley throws herself into a vat of molten lead. 317 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,040 Like terminator? 318 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,040 Not like terminator. 319 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,040 No, no. 320 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,040 Oh yeah, my bad. 321 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,740 Killing herself and the alien queen embryo that she carries. 322 00:12:40,740 --> 00:12:45,920 The movie ends with the already shut down prison being shut down and Ripley's voiceover 323 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:51,400 from her original flight recording playing over the scene, symbolizing her final rest. 324 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,560 So Ben, I was going to ask you what you thought of this film, but I'm beginning to get a sense 325 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:57,520 that it wasn't for you. 326 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:58,520 Right. 327 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,520 Okay. 328 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,640 The format of the show, we normally go through bit by bit and we have a little bit of a to 329 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:09,780 and fro each, but this one, this week, because you have prepped so much and I can visibly 330 00:13:09,780 --> 00:13:15,720 see how fucking excited you are about this, I've changed the format a little bit. 331 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,640 I've constructed what I like to call Ben's hate sandwich. 332 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,000 Okay, nice. 333 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,000 Yeah. 334 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,960 And what I'm going to do is the bread of my hate sandwich is hate and rage. 335 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,220 And then the filling is delicious bubbly good stuff that I actually really fucking enjoyed 336 00:13:31,220 --> 00:13:32,220 about alien three. 337 00:13:32,220 --> 00:13:36,240 And then the last sliver of bread is bubbling hate and rage. 338 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,240 Okay. 339 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,240 No, that sounds delicious. 340 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,240 Let's get into that. 341 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,240 Let me take a bite. 342 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,240 Feed me. 343 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,120 I'm going to serve up your appetizer, right? 344 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,520 This is the aperitif of the show. 345 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,040 The rest of the show is you being excited. 346 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,040 Ready? 347 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,920 Order up, buddy. 348 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,800 I finally understand your issue. 349 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,480 When I bring a film to the table and you go, Ben, I didn't enjoy this because it's just 350 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,040 taking action figures and smashing them together. 351 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,600 I'm like, yes, Rob, that's the best thing about cinema. 352 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:03,600 It's fucking mint. 353 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,600 Yeah. 354 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,640 And then I watched alien three and I was like, Oh my God, I get it. 355 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:07,640 I get it. 356 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,200 I fucking get it. 357 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:15,200 Because what this film has done is it's watched alien and it's watched aliens and it's gone, 358 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,200 yeah. 359 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:21,160 Okay, I can fix the shit bits by taking out all of the good stuff and all of the law and 360 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:26,400 all of the fucking logic and just smashing the shit bits together and hoping something 361 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,400 sticks. 362 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,640 It's like throwing uncooked pasta at an Italian's wall with no warning. 363 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,360 It's borderline racist how fucking shit this film is. 364 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,280 It's fucking alien, right? 365 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,720 Alien. 366 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,320 No one listens to Ripley, even though she's the smartest fucking person in the room. 367 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,320 She knows exactly what she's going on about. 368 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,400 She's the only fucking survivor of that. 369 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,880 And this is all canon in the alien three universe. 370 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,240 She's the only fucking survivor of alien, right? 371 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,280 She's the fucking first person to live through that shit. 372 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,560 And then aliens, but she's not listened to at all. 373 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,560 Why? 374 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:04,160 Because woman and it's the seventies and you're almost like, okay, it's the seventies. 375 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,160 Bigotry was a thing. 376 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,160 That's fine. 377 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,160 That's fine. 378 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,160 Yeah. 379 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,880 It's not fine, but it's fine that that exists in that, that fucking part of the universe, 380 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:11,880 right? 381 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:12,880 It's the past. 382 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:13,880 It's a while ago. 383 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,760 It's a long, now Ripley's listened to. 384 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,320 What a fucking refreshing take. 385 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,320 It's 1980s now. 386 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,320 Yeah. 387 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:20,320 People are listening to women. 388 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,000 Let's fucking take a step forward and nice little social commentary. 389 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,960 What a lovely bit of fucking cheese, right? 390 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,760 But no, what aliens three has done is it's gone. 391 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,680 Yeah, but let's just suck off all that shit. 392 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,280 We're not listening to that fucking woman anymore. 393 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,640 Also, let's pepper in some extra bigotry. 394 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:35,640 Let's pepper that one in back in. 395 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,000 Don't feel like I had enough of that bullshit aliens. 396 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,680 They come up with a plan to trap the fucking thing. 397 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:41,680 We're going to seal off this area. 398 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:42,680 We're going to protect ourselves. 399 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:43,680 It's going to be sick. 400 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:44,680 Yeah. 401 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:45,680 Alien three. 402 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:46,680 We're going to do the exact fucking same thing. 403 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:47,680 Why? 404 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:48,680 Okay. 405 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,080 It didn't fucking work in either of those movies. 406 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,080 Anyway, sorry. 407 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,080 Sorry. 408 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,080 Hate bread. 409 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,080 Hate bread done. 410 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,080 That's the upper teeth. 411 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,080 Lovely. 412 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,080 Ready for the bubbly good stuff? 413 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,080 I'm ready for this. 414 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,080 This is the fillings. 415 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,080 Creamy filling. 416 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,080 This is the cream, the cream cheese, the creme de la creme buddy. 417 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,560 Moisten my mouth. 418 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,600 This film is one of the most gorgeous films you've learned. 419 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,680 I have ever seen in my entire fucking life. 420 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,440 I'm devastatingly beautifully bleak. 421 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,400 It is heartbreakingly beautiful. 422 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,960 It is fucking gorgeous. 423 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:22,600 It's like what I imagine a desolate post nuclear war cityscape would look like with about as 424 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,680 many inhabitants. 425 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,240 About as healthy as those inhabitants would be. 426 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,400 It's a planet built in the year 4,000. 427 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,400 In the year 5,000. 428 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,400 Yes. 429 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,400 Yes. 430 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,400 That's exactly what it is. 431 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,400 And Fincher has fucking nailed it. 432 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,520 The cinematography, insane. 433 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,760 It's so unbelievably good, buddy. 434 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,160 I was off my chops for the first half an hour of this film. 435 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,880 I was like, everything is gorgeous. 436 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,280 The maggots and the little locusts that they call lice. 437 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,280 Sand fleas. 438 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,280 Disgusting. 439 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,280 Disgusting. 440 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,280 That shit made my skin. 441 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,280 Covered the whole planet. 442 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:53,280 It was rank. 443 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,320 I was eating when I tried to watch this the first time. 444 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,320 Had to stop eating. 445 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,640 Noodles just gone to fucking waste because of weird little locust things. 446 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,840 I didn't realize were terrifying, but now I'm also have a phobia of. 447 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,840 Gorgeous. 448 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:04,840 Unbelievably good. 449 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:05,840 The acting, mate. 450 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:06,840 The acting. 451 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:07,840 Fuck me. 452 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:08,840 Charles Dance. 453 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:09,840 Charles Dance. 454 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:10,840 Holy fuck, man. 455 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:11,840 Yeah. 456 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,280 I'm giving Lannister on Game of Thrones for those people who aren't film nerds like us. 457 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,880 Bud, he's fucking insane. 458 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,280 This is him when he's 20 and fit. 459 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,320 He's fucking gorgeous and he's also, fuck me, mate. 460 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:23,320 He's just lovely. 461 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,360 Like, he knows that he's a bad person. 462 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:28,360 He's changing his ways, but he also takes no shit from anyone. 463 00:17:28,360 --> 00:17:32,000 He's like, I'm doing what I need to do because I know it's the right thing to do. 464 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,000 Doesn't give a fuck about anyone else. 465 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,040 And you get all of that from his tone of voice. 466 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,920 Because he's a fucking min actor. 467 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:37,920 Literally. 468 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,560 It's insanely good how he does it. 469 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,560 Yeah. 470 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:41,560 Right. 471 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:42,560 I love the feeling, mate. 472 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,120 You ready for the dessert, buddy? 473 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:45,120 All right. 474 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:46,120 Yeah, yeah. 475 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:47,120 Well, here's Hate Flan. 476 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:48,120 Ready? 477 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:50,720 What the fuck is the CGI in this film? 478 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:51,920 What is the CGI? 479 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,080 It's 1992. 480 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,960 It's not 1992 because we've got the fucking stuff. 481 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,600 We've got the stuff from Alien and Aliens. 482 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:59,600 And that shit was gorgeous. 483 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:00,600 It was incredible. 484 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,600 Yeah. 485 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:02,600 But I've got answers to all of this. 486 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,600 I know. 487 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:04,600 I know you have. 488 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,940 I need to get this out, though, because the rage bubble's here. 489 00:18:06,940 --> 00:18:07,940 It's in my fucking throat. 490 00:18:07,940 --> 00:18:08,940 I'm like a frog right now. 491 00:18:08,940 --> 00:18:09,940 I'm just still fucking pulsating. 492 00:18:09,940 --> 00:18:10,940 Tell me. 493 00:18:10,940 --> 00:18:11,940 I'm just like, cough it up. 494 00:18:11,940 --> 00:18:12,940 Come on. 495 00:18:12,940 --> 00:18:14,240 The CGI, buddy. 496 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,040 It's like if Garfield was done live action in the 70s. 497 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,000 It's fucking rank. 498 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,720 It's so shit. 499 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,600 It's so shit. 500 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,720 So unbelievably shit. 501 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,240 And it's just it ruins the entire thing for me. 502 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,280 It takes me so far out of it. 503 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,280 Not in a good way. 504 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,920 Not in a way where I'm watching like a creature feature and I'm like, when you're watching 505 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,140 them and a giant ant comes over a hill and you're like, well, that's fucking hilarious. 506 00:18:39,140 --> 00:18:40,140 It's not that. 507 00:18:40,140 --> 00:18:44,720 You're watching something that you know has already been done fantastically well. 508 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,560 It's worse than the Spawn live action. 509 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,560 Oh my God. 510 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,160 It's so much worse than Spawn. 511 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,880 It's so much worse than Spawn. 512 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,160 The hate on this spread isn't as bad as the first one. 513 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,880 The first one, the lore and the logic of these fucking this universe just goes out the window 514 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:57,880 in this film. 515 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:58,880 No one gives a fuck about it. 516 00:18:58,880 --> 00:18:59,880 No one cares. 517 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,800 I've got distinct explanations and rebuttals to that. 518 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:03,800 I want to hear all of them. 519 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,880 And we're going to get into it for just briefly. 520 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:07,880 It's not CGI. 521 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,080 That is a full puppet. 522 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,840 That is a full practical effect. 523 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,840 In what fucking universe does the practice. 524 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,960 How did you get it in the seventies looking better than it does in 1990? 525 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,120 That's ridiculous. 526 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:26,760 I'm going to tell you an incredible story, a story that I didn't know before I started 527 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,560 researching this episode. 528 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,560 Weave me in. 529 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:36,320 So each one of these movies has had some strong minded author creatives behind it. 530 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:41,560 Alien, you had Dan O'Bannon, I would say is the primary influence on that film. 531 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,120 Aliens, you had James Cameron. 532 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:50,160 But there were people involved in those films who didn't get the shine. 533 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:55,600 Producers David Guiler and Walter Hill worked on every one of those movies and they decided 534 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,720 this was their time to shine. 535 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,760 They were worried about where the franchise would go. 536 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,040 So they hired a very famous writer called William Gibson. 537 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,280 He wrote a book called Neuromancer. 538 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,120 It was one of the founding books of cyberpunk. 539 00:20:10,120 --> 00:20:11,520 Cyberpunk wasn't a thing. 540 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,240 From this you got cyberpunk. 541 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,240 I know Neuromancer. 542 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,240 Right, exactly. 543 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,760 You're not a books guy, you know Neuromancer. 544 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,760 Books people, he's huge. 545 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:20,760 He's a titan. 546 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:21,760 Okay. 547 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,240 They got him to write the first script. 548 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,240 Okay. 549 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,440 He writes a script, but there's a writer's strike coming. 550 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:27,440 Right. 551 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,760 So they forced him to write a script in two months. 552 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:30,760 Wow. 553 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,120 Based on the treatment that they've put together. 554 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:37,920 William Gibson since come out and said that he was forced to write space commies, hijack 555 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,080 alien eggs and make a big problem in more world. 556 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,080 Space commies? 557 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,080 Yes. 558 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,080 Space commies. 559 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,080 Okay. 560 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,080 You ready for punchline number one? 561 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,080 Cause I'm guessing that that's the fucking... 562 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,080 Yeah, I gave you that as a prompt. 563 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,080 There you go. 564 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,080 So space commies is the prompt. 565 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:56,240 Is Bishop space JFK because he gets an ear injury. 566 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,920 Now hear me out. 567 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,280 There is a much more recent reference for that joke. 568 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,280 Uh huh. 569 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,280 But I don't think... 570 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,280 I might leave the podcast. 571 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,360 I don't think Jack Black will return my course if we, if we crack that one. 572 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:08,360 Yeah, fair. 573 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:09,360 It's there. 574 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:10,360 Yeah. 575 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:11,360 No one needs to touch it. 576 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:12,360 It's fine. 577 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:18,280 So in William Gibson's first script that he wrote based on Giler and Hill's treatment, 578 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,320 Hicks is the main character and this becomes important later. 579 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,320 Right. 580 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:28,920 Ripley is in a coma for the entire film and it's an action movie like aliens, not alien. 581 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:29,920 Right. 582 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,520 So coma patients, I'm guessing it's the second prompt here. 583 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:34,520 It is. 584 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:35,520 Yes. 585 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,520 Okay. 586 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,520 So coma patients was the second prompt. 587 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,240 The punchline I had written with zero context again. 588 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,240 Regretting this one. 589 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:49,320 The most coma patients, the most engaging characters to write into a rape allegory dot 590 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,520 dot dot too far. 591 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:56,000 And then I, in my mind, I thought that you would say Tarantino, but I've not communicated 592 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,000 this to you at all. 593 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,000 So why would you? 594 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Okay. 595 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,000 Because you did it. 596 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,000 Thank you. 597 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,000 You killed Bill. 598 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,000 Exactly. 599 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,960 Someone needs to keep the Vaseline Empire afloat. 600 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,400 Oh my God, Ben. 601 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,400 Yeah. 602 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,240 See, you need to give me context in the future because now in the... 603 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,800 These are too strong. 604 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,560 In the context that you've given me, like post writing these, I'm getting, this is just 605 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:17,560 let's counsel Ben. 606 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,560 Yeah. 607 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,080 This is let's counsel Ben. 608 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,080 Fantastic. 609 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,680 So Michael Bean, Bane, Burn, Bane, Bane. 610 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,120 The actor who plays Hicks. 611 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:26,120 Yes. 612 00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:28,040 He was on board to be the protagonist, right? 613 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,960 He was going to be your main guy in Alien 3. 614 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:30,960 Sounds great. 615 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,320 And they didn't know what they were going to do with Ripley, but because it was so action 616 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,960 focused and it was based around the U.S. Colonial Marine, they thought it was too similar to 617 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:38,960 what came before. 618 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:39,960 So they binned it off. 619 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,720 Oh, oh, they thought that was too similar. 620 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,720 Yeah. 621 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:44,720 Did they? 622 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,720 Yeah. 623 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:46,720 And they were like, now let's not do that because it's too similar. 624 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,440 Because Aliens is an action film. 625 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,440 We can't do that again. 626 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,400 We've got to do something that's not an action film because Aliens is one. 627 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,280 So they got Rennie Harlin, right? 628 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,240 Rennie Harlin, they didn't have a director. 629 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,240 Right. 630 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,240 They didn't have a director. 631 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,240 They haven't got a script, but they're like, fuck it. 632 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,240 Okay, sure. 633 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,400 Let's move on from not having a script. 634 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,200 Let's move on to the fact that we don't have a director. 635 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,200 Yeah. 636 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,160 So they hired Rennie Harlin, who had just directed Nightmare on Elm Street 4. 637 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,360 Nightmare on Elm Street 4 is the next prompt. 638 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:11,840 Nightmare on Elm Street 4. 639 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,560 Freddy's going to get you dot dot dot. 640 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,680 Eventually, also known as the unshakable determination of a pedophile. 641 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,480 This was quite late when you were writing, wasn't it? 642 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,480 It was very late. 643 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,520 It was like 2 a.m. and I was very tired. 644 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,920 But also, you had been texting me solid for about nine hours going, Ben, guess what I 645 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:29,920 found out? 646 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,920 Not telling you. 647 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:31,920 And I'm like, yeah, yeah. 648 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:32,920 Good. 649 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:33,920 Good. 650 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,320 So Rennie Harlin's on board to direct, right? 651 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,320 Sure. 652 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,080 But he didn't want to do a retread of the earlier films. 653 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,560 He wanted to go to the alien home world and he had lots of ideas about the script, right? 654 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,640 He was like, we're going to go to the alien home world and see where they come from. 655 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,360 They were like, yeah, that's too expensive. 656 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:49,360 Fox won't give us the money. 657 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:50,360 Fire him off. 658 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:51,360 Right. 659 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:52,360 Okay. 660 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:54,760 But he did accept his recommendation for a writer. 661 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:55,760 Okay. 662 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:56,760 Eric Redd comes on the scene. 663 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,160 Eric Redd writes a script. 664 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,160 Okay. 665 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,520 Who wrote a script immediately killing all of the main characters. 666 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:10,280 And Alien 3 being an unrelated film in which aliens are found on a sort of ring world like 667 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,160 Elysium in Blomkamp's movie. 668 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,160 Sick. 669 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,560 So he just wanted to go full Halloween 3 and wipe them all out completely, right? 670 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,560 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 671 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,440 Wiped them all out in the opening credits. 672 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,680 And then when it's going to be an earth like place, it's going to be like a halo world 673 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,120 where the astronaut lives and it's going to, we're back in more world, right? 674 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:31,440 So they binned Eric Redd off for that being too different to what came before. 675 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,440 Okay. 676 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,440 Right. 677 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,840 Now they've got no director, no writer again. 678 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,480 So they hired David Toohey. 679 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,480 Right. 680 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,500 And they go, look, we've got this William Gibson script with space commies in more world. 681 00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:42,500 Can you punch that up? 682 00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:43,500 Right. 683 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:46,280 And David Toohey goes on to make pitch black and all the Riddick movies. 684 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,860 Oh, ridiculous. 685 00:24:47,860 --> 00:24:49,160 He hasn't made these yet. 686 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,560 So let's see how different from that future franchise, all of his ideas for alien three 687 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:54,560 were. 688 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,560 Right. 689 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:02,480 He sets it on a prison planet where there is a prisoner who sort of rise, right? 690 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,480 Studio wanted more Ripley. 691 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,480 Right. 692 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,480 So he writes Hicks out again. 693 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,480 Sure. 694 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:12,080 So now Michael Bean Bane, Boon Bane, actor who plays Hicks is fucking furious because 695 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,660 he's canceled his entire slate of upcoming films. 696 00:25:15,660 --> 00:25:19,960 He's turned our millions of dollars worth of films and he's a low functioning alcoholic 697 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:20,960 at the time. 698 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,160 So his ability to deal with rejection is not great. 699 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,160 Oh fuck man. 700 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,160 That's rough. 701 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,200 That will come up later. 702 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:34,960 But Sigourney only agrees to come back to be an alien three if they sort the script 703 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,340 out because this story is dog shit. 704 00:25:37,340 --> 00:25:39,120 She doesn't like this script at all. 705 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:40,120 Fucking hell. 706 00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:44,640 And the film can feature no guns because she is a prominent anti-gun campaigner. 707 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,640 Right. 708 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,640 Okay. 709 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,640 Yeah. 710 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,000 So he gets writing on that, but they've still not gotten, they've still got no director. 711 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,400 So they approach Vincent Ward, who would go on to be Oscar nominated for Robin Williams 712 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,280 movie called What Dreams May Come. 713 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,600 Oh, heartfelt like romance movie about death. 714 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,600 Right. 715 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,600 Sure. 716 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,600 Get Robin Williams in to play the xenomorph. 717 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,600 This is another prompt by the way. 718 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,560 Goodwill hunt in xenomorph. 719 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,520 Like fusion world's best dad. 720 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,620 I don't know if you've seen that, but that could be played by xenomorph. 721 00:26:12,620 --> 00:26:16,440 I mean, I was thinking you could have gone with the Aladdin genie. 722 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,480 Oh, that'd have been great. 723 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,480 The rub the lamp. 724 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,480 You rub the egg. 725 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,480 Your face comes out. 726 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,480 Yeah. 727 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,480 Yeah. 728 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,480 That's way better. 729 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,480 You should have just told me that. 730 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,480 That's way better than mine. 731 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,480 What the fuck? 732 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,120 Vincent Ward only agrees to direct if he can write his own script. 733 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:30,120 Right. 734 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:33,480 So they get him and a guy called John Fasano to write a script for Alien 3, but they don't 735 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,440 cancel David Tooey. 736 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,520 He's still writing an alien three script. 737 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,680 They've now got three people working on different scripts at the same time. 738 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,120 They get in touch with one another and they're furious. 739 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:46,440 I can imagine. 740 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,640 But they don't know which one's going to get bought. 741 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,760 So they keep working for being furious at Guiler and Hill. 742 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:59,200 And it's this script by Ward and Fasano that did the most to shape the film we got. 743 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,200 Okay. 744 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,360 Because the film was set on a wooden planet inhabited by nonviolent monks. 745 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:06,360 Okay. 746 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:11,600 And Ripley spends the entire film trying to kill herself, but they don't believe in suicide. 747 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,080 Fucking hell. 748 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,080 Right? 749 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,360 Studio wades in and says Ripley has to live. 750 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:18,860 She is our protagonist. 751 00:27:18,860 --> 00:27:20,120 She is our star. 752 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:23,560 Sigourney Weaver says she won't come back if Ripley doesn't die. 753 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,560 Eh? 754 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,000 I won't return for Alien 4 unless Ripley is dead. 755 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,680 No, I won't return for Alien 3. 756 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,400 I won't be in this film unless you kill me at the end. 757 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,400 That makes sense. 758 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,400 That makes much more sense. 759 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,040 So the studio is telling these writers, Ripley, she survives. 760 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,120 Sigourney Weaver, I must die. 761 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:42,480 I must die or I'm not doing it. 762 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,480 Fucking hell, man. 763 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,320 They just figure out, you know, they just, we'll kick that problem down the road. 764 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,960 It's a thousand degrees right now and this is making me like anxiety sweat. 765 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,720 Like I'm getting fucking twitchy just hearing this. 766 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,920 So Fox go above Walter and Guila. 767 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:03,240 And they hire Larry Ferguson, who's just written Beverly Hills Cop 2, to write a 14th script. 768 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,160 When I say 14th script, that's not hyperbole. 769 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,680 That's how many scripts have been turned in for this film at this point. 770 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,680 Jesus Christ. 771 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,680 Right? 772 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,680 Jesus Christ. 773 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,080 That gets immediately rejected by Sigourney Weaver and Guila and Hill and the studio. 774 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,080 Right. 775 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,360 Because they're like, it's awful. 776 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,120 They wrote, she wrote Ripley like a bitch. 777 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:23,040 It was a comedy. 778 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,040 It was fucking awful. 779 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,480 Alien comedy. 780 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,480 Yes. 781 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,000 We've had horror sci-fi. 782 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,280 We've had horror, we've had sci-fi action. 783 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,320 Get fucking Eddie Murphy in on it. 784 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,320 You know what I mean? 785 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,320 Let's go. 786 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,800 Guila and Hill at this point are sick of fucking about. 787 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,400 So they go, problem with hiring all these genius directors who've got incredible careers 788 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,160 and have done stuff that's Oscar nominated or done stuff that's widely regarded as brilliant. 789 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,140 They've all got opinions and they're not listening to us enough. 790 00:28:49,140 --> 00:28:53,560 So we're going to hire someone with no fucking track record, a young unknown, who will just 791 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,560 do what we tell him because he's grateful to have a shot. 792 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:03,960 So on the day he was hired, David Fincher had no feature films, had only done commercials 793 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,960 and music videos. 794 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:05,960 Okay. 795 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,960 He had no script. 796 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,640 He had no shooting schedule. 797 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,720 They had built half the sets for locations that they didn't even know if they wanted. 798 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,720 Oh my God. 799 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,440 And there was 11 months until the premiere of the film because they'd already released 800 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:25,200 a teaser trailer two years prior and wasted all the time. 801 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,960 Oh my fucking God. 802 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,600 He asked for 93 days of principal photography. 803 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,680 They denied him and gave him 70. 804 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,080 Holy shit. 805 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,080 Dude, right. 806 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,080 Sweats. 807 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,880 This is just pure stress. 808 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,480 This is fever dream right now. 809 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,960 It's his first film ever. 810 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,960 Fucking hell. 811 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:48,960 Right now. 812 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:49,960 Fuck. 813 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,920 He said later on, he said later on that he was interviewed and they said, you know, there's 814 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:54,920 a film you don't talk about. 815 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,600 He said, a lot of people hated Alien 3, but no one hated it more than I did. 816 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,280 It was a baptism by fire for a number of years. 817 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,160 I'd been around the kind of people who finance movies and the kind of people who were there 818 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,680 to make the deals for movie. 819 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:12,760 And I'd always had this naive idea that everybody wants to make the movie as good as they can, 820 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,760 which is stupid. 821 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,480 So I learned on this movie that nobody really knows. 822 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,220 Therefore, no one has to care. 823 00:30:19,220 --> 00:30:21,120 So it's always going to be your fault. 824 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,120 Right? 825 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,840 Surely you don't want to have the 20th century Fox logo on a shitty movie. 826 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,440 And they were like, well, as long as it opens. 827 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,440 Wow. 828 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,240 Fuck those guys, man. 829 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,240 Holy shit. 830 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,080 Sigourney was like, I had to start working on this picture. 831 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,080 We had no script. 832 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,080 We had no director. 833 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,000 And at the best of times, working on a film can be a nightmare. 834 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,560 They used his assistant as a spy. 835 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,560 They worked against him. 836 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,040 They undermined him. 837 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,720 He handed in, he hated the script. 838 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:51,720 Okay. 839 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,920 And his assistant, Bob Shock, her husband was a writer. 840 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:55,920 Right. 841 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,200 And she was like, look, I can see how much this movie is going to cost. 842 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,320 I can see how much this is affecting you. 843 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,640 He's willing to come in, punch the script up, do it for free. 844 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,720 He's like, fucking get him in. 845 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,720 Right? 846 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,720 Yeah. 847 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,320 Did some revisions to the script. 848 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,680 Walter Hill and David Guiler come back off holiday. 849 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,680 Okay. 850 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:20,680 Turn up to set and get megaphones out and get everyone to bring the script revisions 851 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,640 to the middle of the set so they can shred them in front of everybody and go, this is 852 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,640 our picture. 853 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,480 Rex Pickett, by the way, who is the man who punched that script up. 854 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,480 Yeah. 855 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,640 Barbara Shock's husband, who did the script revisions, wrote Sideways starring Paul Giamatti 856 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,640 a few years later. 857 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,280 Oh, leave shit. 858 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,880 Barbara Shock, who was at that time David Pervinche's assistant, won an Academy Award 859 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,400 for short film directing. 860 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,400 Fucking hell, man. 861 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,400 Yeah. 862 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,040 Bro, this is just cutting your nose off despite fucking everyone. 863 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,040 You know what I mean? 864 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,040 Yeah. 865 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,760 You're bound to shred the fucking reworks. 866 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,760 Revisions, yeah. 867 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,760 That is awful. 868 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,760 That's awful. 869 00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,760 Yeah. 870 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,200 Can you imagine being the person that put in all that fucking work for free to just 871 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,000 watch it get publicly shredded? 872 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 873 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,000 Bro. 874 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,080 David Fincher said, I had to work on this film for two years. 875 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,800 I got fired off it three times and I had to fight for every single thing. 876 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,640 Mate, as your first experience, it's not great. 877 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,240 He never finished this film. 878 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,240 Okay. 879 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,160 What happened was, is they knew that there were parts of the film missing. 880 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,000 They were filming as they went, they were writing script as they went, they were working 881 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,080 on effects as they went. 882 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,960 The reason the CGI is so ropey is because it's not CGI. 883 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,240 It's a mechanical puppet. 884 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,720 David Fincher got his start working at Industrial Light and Magic before he started becoming 885 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,160 a music and commercials director. 886 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:45,920 This film was the first instance where someone tracked exactly the movement of the camera 887 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:52,520 so that the effect house later could recreate the camera pans and sweeps and sways and track 888 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,680 a puppet on the same angles. 889 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:02,000 The alien in this is always a puppet and it looks incredible. 890 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,760 What doesn't look incredible. 891 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,760 Does it? 892 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,080 No, the puppet looks incredible. 893 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,080 Okay. 894 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:12,280 Doesn't look incredible is the big fucking outline around it because again, 11 months. 895 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:17,160 The lime green outline that just appears around it to make it look like a fucking coloring 896 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,160 book. 897 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,440 Because the compositing had to happen in weeks. 898 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,160 They didn't know what shots were in the film because David Fincher walked off. 899 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,080 He never completed a version of this film. 900 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,160 So who, how, what, how did this fucking get released? 901 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,440 How did they not just go, you know what, we need a year. 902 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,680 We just need one year. 903 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,520 They were filming in Pinewood and he said, look, we just need a year. 904 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,520 We need some more money. 905 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:42,160 They were like, tell you what, come back to LA, edit a cut of the film together. 906 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,480 And then you'll know what's missing. 907 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,480 Right. 908 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,480 Know what you need. 909 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,480 Right. 910 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,920 And then as he was editing it, it became apparent they were not going to give him more time. 911 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,920 Right. 912 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,720 What he had in the can was what he had and he ended up walking off the picture. 913 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,360 So there are two versions of this film. 914 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,680 There is a theatrical release, which I have on VHS and he does not want his name anywhere 915 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,680 near that. 916 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,120 He's like, it's nothing that I would have done. 917 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,120 Okay. 918 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,960 And then there's the version that I sent you and that we watched the assembly cut, which 919 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,280 is a version of his work in progress. 920 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,280 Right. 921 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,280 Okay. 922 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,000 Minus reshoots that he was planning to do, rewrites that he was planning to do, edits 923 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,520 that he was planning to do. 924 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,600 It was aware he was up to then. 925 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,600 Right. 926 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,600 Okay. 927 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,600 Before he eventually went, do you know what? 928 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,600 Fuck it. 929 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,120 And he spent three years back in the commercial and music video minds, confident that his 930 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,880 career was over until eventually he found the script for Seven, which was his second 931 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:35,880 film. 932 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:36,880 Okay. 933 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,880 Well, I understand. 934 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,880 Okay. 935 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,840 This is kind of like a fucking genius origin story. 936 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,840 Right. 937 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,880 One of the greatest directors that has existed. 938 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,880 Right. 939 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:45,880 Ever. 940 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:46,880 Right. 941 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,560 So he goes from Alien 3 having his shit pushed in at every opportunity by the studio, by 942 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:58,280 the producers, by fucking anyone and everyone that had a mouth and was like a hand in the 943 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,280 movie. 944 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,280 Right. 945 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,840 And then disappears for three years making music videos and commercials and then just 946 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,400 fucking comes out of the gate swinging. 947 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,400 Yeah. 948 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,400 With Seven. 949 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,120 Because with Seven, that script got turned down again and again and again and they were 950 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,360 trying to make it lighter and they were trying to make it lighter. 951 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,440 They were trying to make it more, you know, acceptable. 952 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,440 Okay. 953 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,440 Charles Dart. 954 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,440 Yeah. 955 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,080 Everybody on that picture was like David Fincher was incredible. 956 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,480 He was pulling like the longest days. 957 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,200 He was just bashing his face against this going, I'm going to make it work. 958 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,200 I'm going to make it work. 959 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,200 I'm going to make it work. 960 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,200 Okay. 961 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,560 And they bullied him off the picture until eventually he just went, no. 962 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,120 And here's the thing. 963 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,840 Here's where I think he was aiming for. 964 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,840 Right. 965 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,840 Okay. 966 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,720 Based on everything I've read about the script revisions. 967 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:47,720 Okay. 968 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:50,760 So we go back to monk planet, right? 969 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,760 Okay. 970 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:58,800 The idea of non-violent monks in a wooden environment, which is kind of carried on by these prisoners. 971 00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,800 Sure. 972 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:06,360 Living this Catholic monastic life in a very old, bearing in mind the setting of this film 973 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,240 to the characters is medieval. 974 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:09,240 Sure. 975 00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:11,320 We are looking at a future version of a cast. 976 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,320 Yeah. 977 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,320 Okay. 978 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,320 I see. 979 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,760 And they're all super, super Catholic in their thoughts. 980 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,360 You know, it's about redemption. 981 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,120 It's about finding forgiveness at the end. 982 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,120 Okay. 983 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,120 Kind of. 984 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,960 Again, I don't think, I don't think Fincher managed to get this in the film, but in alien 985 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,040 one, it's what is the alien? 986 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,480 Oh, it's male rape. 987 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,480 It's being penetrated. 988 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,480 It's this and the other. 989 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,480 In alien two, it's the social danger. 990 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,040 Then people over there are mindless and they're going to destroy our good live in nuclear 991 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,040 family. 992 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,760 So David Fincher is going, right, how are we ending this? 993 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:49,760 And I think he just goes literally and goes, the alien is a vengeful, angry God. 994 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,640 The prisoners are there waiting for their angry God, their redemption. 995 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,920 We're all waiting for the day that our God comes and redeems us. 996 00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,920 Sure. 997 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:00,920 Right. 998 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,920 And two things fall from the sky in alien three. 999 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,480 You've got the dragon, the destroyer, and you've got a caring... 1000 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,480 Oh my God. 1001 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,800 ...recepting, forgiving person, right? 1002 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:17,640 It's a cosmic, unknowable, spiritual, religious horror. 1003 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,600 Paul McCann, the character who played Gollick, he goes out on the expedition, the two guys 1004 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,320 get killed and he gets literally baptized in blood. 1005 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,600 Oh my God, he does. 1006 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,440 And sent back as the prophet of the coming Lord. 1007 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,720 Bishop is Lazarus, risen from the dead. 1008 00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:35,720 Oh my dude. 1009 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:37,880 Fucking Bishop showed up in this. 1010 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:38,880 Right. 1011 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,880 Mm-hmm. 1012 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:46,600 Charles Dance confesses just before he's made forgiven and taken by the angry God. 1013 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,760 He expresses his sins. 1014 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,840 That's actually incredible. 1015 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,760 And then they've all got shaved heads, that idea of Ripley as a cancer patient and the 1016 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:59,980 alien as a tumor and the company wanting to use this angry God as a weapon. 1017 00:37:59,980 --> 00:38:05,960 And she falls, arms open like Jesus, back into the fire, dying so that we might all 1018 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,960 live. 1019 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,240 This is all fantastic. 1020 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:12,440 And said the way that you've just said it is amazing. 1021 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,440 Unfortunately... 1022 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,680 It's not there. 1023 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,680 It's not that. 1024 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,000 It's nowhere fucking near that. 1025 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,180 What it is, it's one thumbs up away from a shitty Terminator ripoff ending. 1026 00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:23,320 They both come out very similar time. 1027 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:30,120 So Alien is being made for years and part of the changes in the theatrical cut is that 1028 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:37,320 when she falls backwards, the alien queen thing bursts out of her chest and it looks 1029 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,320 ropey. 1030 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,320 It looks mega ropey. 1031 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,640 And the guys that did it are like, we were ashamed, but we were given a week to do it 1032 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,700 and we had to do it because Terminator 2 had come out and Skylar and Hill were shitting 1033 00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:50,360 themselves that they had the same ending as us. 1034 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:56,240 So everybody making the film knew about Terminator 2 about a week before the film was finished. 1035 00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:58,240 Oh my God. 1036 00:38:58,240 --> 00:38:59,240 Okay. 1037 00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:00,240 Fair. 1038 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:01,240 Fair. 1039 00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:06,360 The one thing I will say about the end of this film that infuriated me beyond belief 1040 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:11,200 is when Ripley was desperate to kill herself and was like, I'm going to sacrifice myself 1041 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:17,840 so that you can live to this hate-filled murderer rapist. 1042 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,080 And he's like the preacher of the prison. 1043 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,080 And when she's like, I'm going to stay in this pit that is about to be filled of boiling 1044 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:31,080 lead and I'm going to die with the alien and I was like, that is a poetic, poetic send 1045 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,960 off for the person that's been face to face with this evil for three decades now. 1046 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,960 Right? 1047 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,880 He's like, nah, off you fuck, go on. 1048 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,560 Now you're in God's hands now. 1049 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:47,320 And then he dies in the pit of lead, which she then fucking kills herself in anyway, 1050 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,880 but it's all done for a bit of bump so we can get a glimpse at Bishop, which I'm not 1051 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:52,880 mad about. 1052 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,760 It's almost like they didn't know how to end this movie because the star was adamant that 1053 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,800 she had to die. 1054 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,040 The producers were adamant that she had to live and no one knew how to finish it because 1055 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,040 there wasn't a script. 1056 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,520 I fucking hate how confused this bullshit is at the end though. 1057 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:10,520 It would have been a good ending and it would have almost saved the complete lack of respect 1058 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,640 for the previous films. 1059 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,440 It would have almost justified it if I was like, oh, that's a good send off. 1060 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,440 That's a good send off. 1061 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,240 Being buried in molten lead? 1062 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:19,240 Yes. 1063 00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:20,240 Right. 1064 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:24,120 You want to find out that the xenomorph can somehow survive the molten lead? 1065 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,120 Fuck yes. 1066 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,120 Fuck yes. 1067 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,120 That's a great send off for Ripley. 1068 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,120 It is. 1069 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,120 No. 1070 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,120 It is. 1071 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,160 And I think that's what Fincher was trying to get to. 1072 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:37,680 I think it's the idea of religion and belief and the xenomorph being like a beast or a dragon, 1073 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,200 red dragon with Ed Norton and Ray Fiennes, where he's got the big tattoo on his back and 1074 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,480 it's the devil, right? 1075 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,480 It's religious judgment. 1076 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,640 It's the Hannibal Lecter trilogy, right? 1077 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,640 I think it's that. 1078 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:55,280 He's trying to create the alien being existential, cosmic, religious reverence, right? 1079 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,080 When Gollick, the Paul McGann character, lets the alien out and is like, tell me what to 1080 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,080 do next. 1081 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,080 Oh. 1082 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,080 And the god just fucking kills him. 1083 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,800 You know, he's trying to, he's converted. 1084 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,480 He now believe this is his god. 1085 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,480 Fuck man. 1086 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:14,200 The reason I think it's the perfect, that nearly made version is the perfect ending. 1087 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,760 It's because alien one is the heroism of surviving. 1088 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,440 You saved yourself. 1089 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,440 Yeah. 1090 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:28,080 Alien two, aliens is sacrificing to save others, innocent others. 1091 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,080 Okay. 1092 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:36,160 And alien three is heroism by sacrificing yourself to save guilty others. 1093 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,840 Ooh, that's fucking gnarly. 1094 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,060 Are you going to survive for yourself? 1095 00:41:41,060 --> 00:41:42,960 Are you going to survive for the innocent? 1096 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,800 Okay, if you're willing to do that, then sacrifice yourself for the guilty. 1097 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,680 So she would have killed herself. 1098 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,080 She would have sacrificed herself for their sins. 1099 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,080 Yes. 1100 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,720 Ooh, that's fucking tasty. 1101 00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:54,720 She's killing herself. 1102 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:55,720 Fuck yeah man. 1103 00:41:55,720 --> 00:42:01,040 So us horrible lot of murderers, pedos and rapists don't get killed by the alien. 1104 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,120 Bro, that's a fucking great movie. 1105 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,040 It's a fucking crying shame that we didn't get it. 1106 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,040 Right. 1107 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,040 Crying shame that we didn't get it. 1108 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,760 She loses everything in alien three and all she has left are her principles and she stands 1109 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,760 by them. 1110 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,040 And they say, we can fix this. 1111 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,240 We can, she goes, no, my pain is my own. 1112 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,440 My loss is my own and it is not for sale. 1113 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,440 Awesome. 1114 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,440 That's fucking perfect. 1115 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,600 And I love that you've taken me on this journey. 1116 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,600 I really do. 1117 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,680 It's, it's filled me with a new found respect for Fincher. 1118 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,120 I had enormous like buckets of it for him already, but this film, I was watching it 1119 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,800 and I was like, I can see where he is. 1120 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,800 Yeah. 1121 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,800 I don't see where he is with this. 1122 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,920 I can see his influences. 1123 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,680 I can see his like hand in the works. 1124 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,080 I don't know why, but I can see it. 1125 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:50,160 But I do have one question to build on your very sort of philosophical deep insight into 1126 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,160 this film. 1127 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,160 Yeah. 1128 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:57,360 Um, why does the xenomorph being born out of an ox clear up Ripley's ever deteriorating 1129 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,120 boss eye? 1130 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,600 So there's two, there's two things here. 1131 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:03,600 How does that happen? 1132 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,120 What Fincher is doing or what Fincher was going to do if he'd been allowed to finish 1133 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,480 the film. 1134 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:19,680 Is that as, as new is being cut open and you're confronting the death of something that you 1135 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,920 love, you're witnessing the birth of something you hate. 1136 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,200 Oh, that's quite cool. 1137 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,760 The monster is born with every, in every seed is new life. 1138 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:30,760 Yeah. 1139 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,960 The idea that the things that you love will die. 1140 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:33,960 Got you. 1141 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:34,960 Everything will die. 1142 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,760 How are you going to meet that death? 1143 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,760 Okay. 1144 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,160 So you're working it in with Ripley being sick because she's been kicked out of hyper 1145 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:48,040 sleep and so she's not going to necessarily notice that she's got the seed inside her. 1146 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,040 Right? 1147 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,040 Okay. 1148 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,000 Bit difficult to keep track of what scene the contact lens is supposed to be in when 1149 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,840 you don't know what order the film is in yet. 1150 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,480 Okay. 1151 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:06,880 So I think what you're saying is, is that with Fincher making one movie and the producers 1152 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,960 thinking another, they don't want that movie. 1153 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,840 They don't want you criticizing the Catholic church and saying everything dies. 1154 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,080 Yeah, of course not. 1155 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,360 Welcome to our lovely blockbuster. 1156 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,760 Everything you love will die. 1157 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:18,760 Yeah. 1158 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:23,520 So you've got Fincher making that film and you've got the producers wanting to make another 1159 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,520 film. 1160 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,440 So you've got these two camps sort of going off and making the same film simultaneously. 1161 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,440 Yeah. 1162 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,980 Sigourney Weaver is an executive producer on this production. 1163 00:44:30,980 --> 00:44:35,120 So what her, what you're saying is, is that she had one eye on Fincher's film. 1164 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,120 Yes. 1165 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,320 One eye on the production that the producers wanted. 1166 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:44,360 For the first 25 minutes of the film, it was uncertain which way it was going to go. 1167 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,480 But then an alien was born and she was like, oh, I can't know what film I'm in now. 1168 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,480 And a fucking eyeball. 1169 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,880 She didn't have to look at two films anymore. 1170 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:51,880 She knew it was the shit one. 1171 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:52,880 She was like, well, fuck it. 1172 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,880 We know, we know. 1173 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:54,880 Sounds. 1174 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,880 Now an interesting side effect. 1175 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,080 And I brought him up earlier. 1176 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,880 Michael Bean, Bane Boon, Bane Boon, who played Hicks. 1177 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:00,880 Yeah. 1178 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:01,880 Nailed it. 1179 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,400 Got paid more for this film than he got paid for Aliens. 1180 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,400 How? 1181 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,400 How? 1182 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,280 So they blue balled him. 1183 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,280 Of course. 1184 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:15,800 And then they spent a lot of time and a lot of money on the prosthetic of his corpse that 1185 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,000 was going to have a chest burst or injury. 1186 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,000 Okay. 1187 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,640 And he finds out about this and he goes, that's my fucking face. 1188 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,320 And you're, I'm not in this film. 1189 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,960 You can't use it. 1190 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,220 And they don't know what they need or don't need because they don't have a script. 1191 00:45:30,220 --> 00:45:33,200 So they're like, we might really fucking need this. 1192 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,200 Oh. 1193 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,560 And they start playing, they start playing ball and he starts getting that figure up 1194 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:42,960 and up and up and eventually says, the only thing that you can use, you can use one photo 1195 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,880 of me and it's going to cost you this much. 1196 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,280 And they fucking pay it because they don't know if they need it or not. 1197 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,740 That is fucking incredible. 1198 00:45:53,740 --> 00:46:00,000 If I've ever heard a success story from a low functioning alcoholic, it's that. 1199 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,320 Just kicking up shit for the sake of kicking up shit. 1200 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,800 No, you can't use my face. 1201 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,560 Oh, 20 million. 1202 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,560 Yeah. 1203 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:07,560 Yeah. 1204 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:08,560 Fine. 1205 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,560 We'll pay it. 1206 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:10,560 Fine. 1207 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,560 25, but for one picture. 1208 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,560 And they're like, fuck it. 1209 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,560 We don't know if we need it. 1210 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,560 Yeah. 1211 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,560 Take it. 1212 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,560 Who cares? 1213 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,120 And if you need any more confirmation that Guyler and Hill are cocks, they always say 1214 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,560 that they were instrumental in the success of aliens because they wrote the original 1215 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,560 talk. 1216 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,280 Oh, they wrote the original treatment that they gave to James Cameron, right? 1217 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,280 Fucking hell. 1218 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,200 Do you want to hear James Cameron's version of what that treatment said? 1219 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,200 Yeah. 1220 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,480 James Cameron's summation of their treatment for aliens. 1221 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,480 OK. 1222 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,920 James Cameron says that outline said something like, Ripley gets rescued and goes back to 1223 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,000 the planet with a bunch of soldiers. 1224 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,560 They are attacked and eaten. 1225 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,080 That was pretty much it. 1226 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:55,320 Except that, and I'll never forget this, I'll never forget this, the outline concluded with 1227 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,760 the sentence, and then some other bullshit happens. 1228 00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,760 Wow. 1229 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,400 Which I thought trivialized the entire process of actually figuring out what the story should 1230 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,400 be. 1231 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,840 Dude, fuck these guys, man. 1232 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,120 They have no respect for the franchise. 1233 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,280 They don't care about you or whether you're a fan of this franchise. 1234 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:17,080 One of Fincher's first writing meetings, one of the many directors that they went through, 1235 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,320 one of their first writing meetings was an hour long. 1236 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:26,520 And Guyler and Hill spent 45 minutes of that talking about how good the prostitutes were 1237 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,400 abroad on the holiday that they'd just been on. 1238 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,200 How much they would do anything. 1239 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,200 My life. 1240 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,760 That's fucking stupid. 1241 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,960 It makes me so angry to think that, obviously we've invested so much time into this series 1242 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,960 already. 1243 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,480 Obviously, aliens are a big part of our fucking lives now, right? 1244 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,480 Huge. 1245 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,920 They are the template of what sci-fi should be to me. 1246 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:48,920 Exactly. 1247 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,840 And these guys are cashing in on that bullshit to fuck hookers around Europe when they're 1248 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:54,840 abroad. 1249 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:55,840 Are you taking the piss? 1250 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:56,840 That's all they care about. 1251 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:57,840 Fuck them. 1252 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:02,720 David, our big problem with Alien 3 is that we didn't set out to make a movie. 1253 00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:06,480 We set out to make a release date and then forgot that we had more work to do. 1254 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:07,480 Dickheads. 1255 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,920 Absolute dickheads. 1256 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,800 The silver lining is that this is the birth of David Fincher. 1257 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,880 He busts out of the chest of this franchise. 1258 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,880 Yeah, he does. 1259 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,480 And you said you could see what Fincher was trying to do. 1260 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,280 You weren't the only one. 1261 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:25,040 Christopher Nolan said, I came out of that film and I had a conversation with a guy and 1262 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,360 I said, I've just seen the new Ridley Scott. 1263 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,720 I know who the new Ridley Scott is. 1264 00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:30,720 It's David Fincher. 1265 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:32,080 And I wasn't wrong. 1266 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,800 It is there in the movie, whether Fincher sees it or not. 1267 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:36,800 It is there in the film. 1268 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,280 It 1000% is there. 1269 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:45,560 And the potential, it's dripping with this undeniable fucking dirty underbelly. 1270 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,560 Gorgeous. 1271 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,560 Ominous. 1272 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:48,560 Creeping dread. 1273 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,560 Dread. 1274 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,560 It's just, it's grey. 1275 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,560 It's miserable. 1276 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:53,560 It's dark. 1277 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,560 It's dank. 1278 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,560 It's horrible. 1279 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:56,560 But you're in it. 1280 00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:01,000 And only like Fincher has this fucking amazing talent of not just showing you a place and 1281 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,000 going, Oh, isn't this a bit fucking dank and weird? 1282 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,720 He's just sort of like, Hey, welcome to my world. 1283 00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:10,680 And then you're in and then you're like, Oh fuck, I live here now. 1284 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,720 I live here now and I don't know how long I'm here for. 1285 00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:13,720 This is fucking horrible. 1286 00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:14,720 He's incredible. 1287 00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:16,860 I consider like the sets. 1288 00:49:16,860 --> 00:49:21,280 He didn't decide where the story was happening because when he turned up, they were built 1289 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,760 and they are beautiful. 1290 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,440 That end scene in the lead works, that's a practical set. 1291 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,440 They built that. 1292 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,440 Wow. 1293 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,440 Okay. 1294 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,560 And he's just like, right, okay, well I will just have this happen here. 1295 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:34,920 And okay, we've got this other space. 1296 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,600 I can have this happen here and just wrote the story around what he had. 1297 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,880 He's a fucking genius for this movie, but it is unfortunately because of all of the 1298 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,840 circumstances that are in this episode, it's never going to be more than just a beautiful 1299 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:50,840 miscarriage. 1300 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:56,440 You look at it and you go, Oh my God, you just go, that's way worse than my punchlines. 1301 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,760 That's way worse. 1302 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,220 But it's mine's accurate. 1303 00:49:59,220 --> 00:50:01,480 It's an accurate summation of what this film is. 1304 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,000 It's a fucking shame. 1305 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:09,240 Like I don't, I don't hold any ill feelings towards Fincher for this. 1306 00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:11,380 I don't blame Fincher at all for this film. 1307 00:50:11,380 --> 00:50:12,400 Not in, not in the slightest. 1308 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:18,000 I feel like he did the absolute, I feel like he did better than anyone else could have 1309 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,680 in the situation that he was in and fucking fair play to him for doing so. 1310 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:22,680 Right. 1311 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:23,680 And fair play for sticking out as long as he did. 1312 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:28,560 I'm wanting to get something out of it because like after the story you told me, I'm getting 1313 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:29,560 anxiety sweats. 1314 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:30,560 I would have walked immediately. 1315 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,040 I'd have been like, what the fuck is this? 1316 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,040 I'd have been gone. 1317 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,040 It's a fair play to him. 1318 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,040 It's incredible. 1319 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,680 I do however, despise the story. 1320 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,760 I think the lore in it is fucking nonsensical. 1321 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:48,000 I hate that they're rehashing the fucking most cliche, bullshitty bits from the first 1322 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,640 two films and passing it off like it's something new. 1323 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,160 It's a bit, it's a fucking alien pastiche. 1324 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,160 It's a pastiche. 1325 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,160 It is a pastiche. 1326 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,160 It stands for it. 1327 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,160 Here we go. 1328 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,160 I'm learning. 1329 00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,160 There you go. 1330 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,880 Self improvement bitch. 1331 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:02,880 Just quickly. 1332 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:08,920 I think it's time we let our good friend alien, the eighth passenger, uh, yeah, let's hear 1333 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:09,920 what he's got to say. 1334 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,920 It's a Scrum account by the way. 1335 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,280 Fuck you love this person. 1336 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,920 If you want to see more from this guy, literally just search on Insta alien, the eighth passenger. 1337 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:17,920 They'll come up. 1338 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:18,920 Their content. 1339 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,800 If you like aliens is second to none. 1340 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:21,800 Yeah. 1341 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,760 And if you love alien three, fuck you. 1342 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:24,760 Right. 1343 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,120 Here we go. 1344 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,120 Ask the expert. 1345 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,120 There's a jingle. 1346 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,120 I made it. 1347 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,120 Listen to the jingle. 1348 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,120 It's got a hell raiser quote in it. 1349 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,120 I knew you'd love it. 1350 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,600 From hell raiser four bloodlines. 1351 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:39,200 Oh, fuck you buddy. 1352 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,200 Fuck you for that one. 1353 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,560 Is that from, is that from fucking bloodlines? 1354 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,560 I hate this episode. 1355 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,120 So I download the torrent of it. 1356 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,120 Let's listen to, uh, let's listen to our buddy. 1357 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,040 I wasn't asking you car duty. 1358 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,160 I was asking the expert. 1359 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,560 This is the first movie in the saga that really splits fans opinions. 1360 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:06,000 Remember the first two movies hardly have haters, but the alien three stood up a lot 1361 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:11,440 of discontent by killing off beloved characters from aliens, changing the script many times, 1362 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,520 running into production issues and featuring questionable special effects. 1363 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:20,040 Though to be fair, it does use more practical effects than digital ones. 1364 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,840 What is true is that alien three has its own unique style, different from the previous 1365 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:25,840 films. 1366 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,160 And it's undoubtedly the darkest of the trilogy. 1367 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:33,360 It creates an atmosphere of despair, but also one of redemption due to its religious 1368 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,360 undertones. 1369 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,760 You see a much more mature and human really aware of her imminent fate and through her 1370 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,400 sacrifice she brings a definitive closure of her arc. 1371 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,200 Well, maybe not. 1372 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,560 Still alien three is definitely a significant contribution to the saga. 1373 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,920 Did you know there is an early trailer of the movie that announces the story takes place 1374 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:53,920 on earth. 1375 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:59,960 This happened because the movie started being promoted without even having a finished script. 1376 00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:04,840 Later on they decided to change the setting to a penitentiary in a space colony. 1377 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,720 Okay, so that was the teaser trailer. 1378 00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:08,720 Okay. 1379 00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:13,320 Like aliens on earth with a release date and they were like, yeah, Finch, you got 11 months. 1380 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,320 Oh my God. 1381 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:20,160 Can I just quickly mention as well, this guy's voice, this guy's accent is fucking chocolate 1382 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,160 velvet. 1383 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,160 Oh my God. 1384 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,160 Szechial butter, right? 1385 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,520 I could listen to this guy talk all fucking day long, release an audio book. 1386 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,520 I will buy it. 1387 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:33,080 So before we get to the writing, which I don't think is any mystery, got comment corner. 1388 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,880 We've got, but we've got a bit of room now. 1389 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:35,880 Okay. 1390 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:40,800 And before we tell people are definitive nail in the coffin summation of alien three, I'm 1391 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,500 I want to know how you really are. 1392 00:53:42,500 --> 00:53:44,440 I'm actually doing really good, man. 1393 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,440 Yeah. 1394 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:46,440 So I'm not, I'm okay. 1395 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,280 I'm not really good, but I'm not really bad. 1396 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,280 You can be, you know, it's allowed to be, you're allowed to be really good. 1397 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,280 A thousand percent. 1398 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,160 But do you remember like a couple months back, maybe three months back, I was saying I'm aiming 1399 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,160 for beige days. 1400 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,160 Yeah. 1401 00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,160 Yeah. 1402 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,760 I want days to be normal so that when a good day rolls around, it's a fucking good day. 1403 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:07,360 And when a bad day rolls around, it's a fucking bad day, but I can, I can tell the difference 1404 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,320 and I can navigate the landscape comfortably. 1405 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,320 Right. 1406 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:15,840 I've acclimatized and I've been having good days and I've been having bad days, but they're 1407 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,640 not world ended anymore. 1408 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,600 And they're not make or break great days anymore. 1409 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,160 It's just, I feel like I'm there. 1410 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:28,400 I'm, I'm, I'm sort of leveling out and it's a weird feeling because it's fucking boring 1411 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,400 to get here. 1412 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,400 Yeah. 1413 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,400 Not going to lie to you. 1414 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,400 This is like going sober all over again. 1415 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,000 Do you know what the most fun thing in the world to do is get absolutely shit faced, 1416 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,760 get off your tits on a couple rails of cocaine and run around making life ending decisions. 1417 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:41,760 Yeah. 1418 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:42,760 You know what I mean? 1419 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,840 Like make huge impulsive life changing decisions on the fly. 1420 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:46,840 Yeah. 1421 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,920 Super fun because you wake up with a ton of stories to tell. 1422 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,360 And a new bookshelf that you built out of some ladders and, and, and some planks. 1423 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,360 Exactly. 1424 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,360 You don't even remember making. 1425 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,360 You're like, Oh, that looks mint. 1426 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:56,360 I can't touch it. 1427 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,360 It will fall down. 1428 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,360 Exactly. 1429 00:54:58,360 --> 00:54:59,360 Yeah. 1430 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:00,360 Don't even look at it. 1431 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,360 Okay. 1432 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,360 But you've also got now, now you've got shit to sort out and it gives you, it gives you 1433 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:03,360 an almost like purpose. 1434 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:04,360 And this is the mission. 1435 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,360 Yes. 1436 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:06,360 That's it. 1437 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,440 Whereas now the mission is I'm going to get home from work. 1438 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,440 I'm going to have a nice little bath. 1439 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:11,440 I'm going to walk the dog. 1440 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:12,440 I'm going to do a bit of editing. 1441 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:13,440 I'm going to watch your film. 1442 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:14,440 I'm going to have a nice little. 1443 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:15,440 Yeah. 1444 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,440 Yeah. 1445 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,440 I mean, it's a hard thing to do. 1446 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:20,440 It's shitty, weird, boring. 1447 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:21,440 It's fucking boring. 1448 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,440 Yeah. 1449 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:23,440 Yeah. 1450 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,440 Yeah. 1451 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:25,440 I mean, I'm exactly the same boat. 1452 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,040 I'm well, I'm further back than you because you're further ahead in your, in your sort 1453 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,000 of trauma recovery process in a lot of ways. 1454 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,040 I was fine with poverty. 1455 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:39,160 I think going from the big income, the nice income, the exciting income. 1456 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,160 Oh yeah. 1457 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,160 The fun. 1458 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:49,360 Yeah, I was like, I was, I was proud of myself for not caring about all the things that I 1459 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,320 lost when I lost that income. 1460 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:52,320 Yeah. 1461 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,320 And it was naivety. 1462 00:55:53,320 --> 00:56:00,680 It was naivety because what I thought I'd lost was nights out takeaways and fancy new 1463 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,000 gadgets, nice clothes, nice shoes. 1464 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,720 I was like, I don't, I'm so proud of myself for not needing that shit. 1465 00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:07,720 I'm fine with that. 1466 00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:08,720 I don't need that shit. 1467 00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:09,720 It's not what I lost. 1468 00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:14,840 What I actually lost was any expedience in achieving what I needed. 1469 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,320 If I need a thing now, it takes a year. 1470 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,320 Yes. 1471 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,320 It used to take three months. 1472 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,320 Yes. 1473 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,480 That I'm really struggling with. 1474 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,200 It's a fucking sharp curve. 1475 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,200 Right. 1476 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,200 My car blew up. 1477 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,320 I had to smash a window to get my dog out. 1478 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,120 Both of those things cost money. 1479 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,640 That set me back three months and it was 200 quid. 1480 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,640 Yeah, dude. 1481 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,320 Honestly, I used to spend that in a night. 1482 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,600 I completely understand where you're coming from, man. 1483 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,680 The big fun income is fantastic. 1484 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:46,680 Yeah. 1485 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:52,920 And you get to the big fun income and you get six, nine, 12 months into the big fun 1486 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,240 income and you're like, I'm going out with two mates. 1487 00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:57,680 How much do I need for a night out? 1488 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,640 I'm going to take 400 cash and I'll leave 600 in the account just in case no one can 1489 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:03,640 get around it. 1490 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:04,640 You know what I mean? 1491 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,640 We're having fun at 10 o'clock and we want to put another fucking... 1492 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:09,640 Bring into a dealer. 1493 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:10,640 ... new songs on the jukebox. 1494 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:11,640 You know what I mean? 1495 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,120 If we need to pop an order in and grab a couple more bags, why not? 1496 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,120 We got it there. 1497 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,120 We're good to go. 1498 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,240 And that was fine. 1499 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:25,560 And now my budget is 10 pounds a day and 8 pounds 50 of that goes to the boardroom cafe 1500 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:26,560 every day. 1501 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:31,080 It literally goes on a coffee and a sandwich. 1502 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,280 You know what I mean? 1503 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,080 I'm fond of a bad analogy. 1504 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:39,440 I had a lovely sports car and when I lost it, I was like, that's fine. 1505 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:40,760 I don't miss the leather seats. 1506 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,360 I don't miss the six sound system. 1507 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,840 I don't miss the GPS. 1508 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,400 I don't miss the Neons. 1509 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,200 And then I was like, shit, I need to walk. 1510 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:49,200 Yeah. 1511 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,920 I thought this was going to be a very personal insult towards me. 1512 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:52,920 No, no, no, no. 1513 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,720 I thought you were going to go, yeah, I don't miss the fancy fucking convertible Mercedes 1514 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:56,720 and all this bullshit. 1515 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,840 I'm fine in a Ford Fiesta from 2009. 1516 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:04,600 I've got a 2004 Ford Focus. 1517 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:05,960 Wow, buddy. 1518 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:06,960 We are partying. 1519 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,840 She's got a CD player and a radio. 1520 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,400 You've got a fucking CD player. 1521 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:11,600 All right, fancy pants. 1522 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,120 You want to calm the fuck down? 1523 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:18,520 No, I've got a CD player, player, player, but I don't want to talk about it anymore. 1524 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,920 What are you rating Alien 3? 1525 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:21,920 Everything that just happened there. 1526 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:22,920 That's going to affect my rating. 1527 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:23,920 That's going to affect my rating. 1528 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:24,920 Come on, that was good. 1529 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:25,920 That was good. 1530 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:26,920 It was great. 1531 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:27,920 It was great. 1532 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,920 I haven't thought about it. 1533 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:30,920 It's minus one now. 1534 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:31,920 We don't do minus figures. 1535 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,800 It doesn't lose a point. 1536 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,360 I'm not in minus figures. 1537 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,880 It's going to be, I hate this film. 1538 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,920 I hate this film with a burning passion. 1539 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,880 I've watched it four fucking times for this episode because I watched it the first time. 1540 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,600 It made no sense and I was just yelling. 1541 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,880 I couldn't make notes because I was just fucking ham fisted the entire time. 1542 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:51,880 White knuckle rage. 1543 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,480 The second time through, I started paying attention and was like, I fucking hate what 1544 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,440 they're doing to the story. 1545 00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,640 Third time through, I was like, you know what? 1546 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:00,640 It's kind of beautiful. 1547 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:01,880 There's a lot of pretty shit going on. 1548 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,880 And that fucking stupid dog alien with the green outline started running around and I 1549 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:06,880 was like, fuck off. 1550 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,880 And I'm immediately back to angry. 1551 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,440 So the last time I watched it through, I was like, okay, I need to do positives. 1552 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:16,000 I need to try and focus on the positives because otherwise I'm just going to end up like a 1553 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,480 weird, angry, bellend, just yelling at nothing. 1554 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:20,920 I'm going to be like the old man on the street. 1555 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:21,920 I know your mom. 1556 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:22,920 You know what I mean? 1557 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:23,920 I couldn't deal with that. 1558 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:24,920 I'm only 35. 1559 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:25,920 I'm not there yet. 1560 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,720 I'm going to give it a four. 1561 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:28,720 Wow. 1562 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,400 I think Fincher, what he's done with it, he's Fincher's vision of it. 1563 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:39,000 You can see in the cinematography, you can see in the way the story is told visually 1564 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,520 and the way the actors are directed in the way that they deliver it. 1565 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:43,520 Fucking Charles Dance. 1566 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:44,520 A revelation. 1567 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:45,520 Hands down. 1568 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,440 How the fuck that guy didn't get some sort of award for this film. 1569 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,120 I know why, because it's a piece of shit. 1570 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,120 No one ever watched it. 1571 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,120 But anyway, yeah. 1572 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,120 What are you rating it? 1573 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,520 I know this is a bad film. 1574 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:56,520 I know it is. 1575 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,040 Oh, this is going to be upsetting. 1576 00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,040 This is going to damage our friendship. 1577 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,040 It's not. 1578 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,040 It's not. 1579 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:02,040 It's not. 1580 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,040 Okay. 1581 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:08,440 I can't help but see that the central allegory, the central theme of this film is that there 1582 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,840 are people who are so done with themselves. 1583 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:20,640 They are so filled with guilt and self-incrimination that the idea of a xenomorph crash landing 1584 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,600 on their planet is akin to God. 1585 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:24,600 Right. 1586 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,200 It's something that will take me away from me. 1587 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:28,200 Yeah. 1588 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:32,440 And somebody coming along and going, no, it's okay. 1589 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,720 Because I'm as bad as you are and I'm going to save you from yourself. 1590 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,840 I just find, I find the idea of- 1591 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:40,840 Are you a religious man, Rob? 1592 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:41,840 Not at all. 1593 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,640 I mean, I know the story has been used before. 1594 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:44,640 Do you know what I mean? 1595 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:49,040 I know there's probably a book with that vague plot line in it, right? 1596 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:50,800 It's been around a little while. 1597 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,160 But God isn't a xenomorph in that one. 1598 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,880 And I feel like they're missing the trick. 1599 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:56,880 They did. 1600 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,880 They missed a trick by not making God a alien. 1601 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:03,000 If I went into a Catholic church and the east window was a face hugger coming at me, I'd 1602 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,000 get on my knees. 1603 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,000 All right. 1604 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,000 So yeah, same to be fair. 1605 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,000 Same. 1606 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,000 Fair. 1607 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:12,640 If it was Sigourney Weaver in the white and blue robe with a little baby xenomorph in 1608 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,360 her, cradled in her arms. 1609 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:15,360 Yes. 1610 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:16,360 Fuck yeah, man. 1611 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,360 Right? 1612 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:18,360 Momalian. 1613 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:19,360 Right. 1614 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:20,360 Thank you. 1615 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:21,360 Momalian. 1616 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:22,360 Fuck yeah. 1617 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:28,960 So it's something about my love for Alien 1 and 2, the afterglow of that being wrapped 1618 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,600 up in that mythology, I love. 1619 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:32,600 Okay. 1620 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,000 But it is a beautiful miscarriage and therefore it's at best a 6. 1621 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,000 Okay. 1622 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,000 That's not as bad as I expected. 1623 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,800 That's not as bad as I... 1624 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,400 I legitimately thought you were going to come in with about like an 8, maybe a 9. 1625 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:48,640 It's my favourite Alien film and it's the worst one if resurrections didn't happen. 1626 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,120 I love that 6 is the worst one for you in the Alien franchise. 1627 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,480 That's, that's, that's genuinely picked me up a little bit. 1628 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:56,480 That makes me... 1629 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,480 You know what? 1630 01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:58,480 Fuck it. 1631 01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:59,480 Five. 1632 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:00,480 Yeah. 1633 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:01,480 It gains its point back. 1634 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:02,480 There you go. 1635 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,440 I think we've just got time to comment corner. 1636 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,400 Got one here from TikTok on one of our aliens reels. 1637 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,560 It's from Meh and they were replying to their own comment. 1638 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,920 So it's from Meh to Meh. 1639 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:20,360 They replied to themselves saying, I watched aliens a few, few years ago. 1640 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,320 It's a bit fucking George Lucas, you know, I appreciate the cinematic sort of reference 1641 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:25,320 there. 1642 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:26,800 I watched aliens a few... 1643 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,440 Can you edit in the, the star Wars sort of like, you know, when the screen scrolling 1644 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:31,440 things man. 1645 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:32,440 Not happening. 1646 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,800 I watched aliens a few, few years ago. 1647 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:35,800 Please do. 1648 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,600 After I saw every video game slash film ripping the look off. 1649 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:43,000 So it felt like any other action movie for me. 1650 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,400 I'm sorry, James Cameron. 1651 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:49,400 I can't connect with your movies and let me just tell you Meh, the world is holding its 1652 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,320 breath for the response from James Cameron on this one. 1653 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,040 We've reached out for comment. 1654 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,160 Unfortunately he's not answered my voicemails yet. 1655 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:05,040 I'm also not sure, 80% sure that it's not his phone number and it might just be a man 1656 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,040 called James. 1657 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:12,640 I think we, I think we send James Cameron that comment and just go pitch for you James 1658 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:19,160 Cameron Meh comments on a TikTok video, criticizes your film and then some other bullshit happens. 1659 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,600 And maybe we'll get a cinematic masterpiece like we did with aliens. 1660 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:23,600 I'll tell you what I want to say. 1661 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,560 That seems to be the magic words for James Cameron. 1662 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,600 Yeah, that's going to be incredible. 1663 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:28,600 Okay. 1664 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,720 I've just Googled James Cameron email address and James dot Cameron at Gmail has come up. 1665 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,400 So I'm going to quickly send these guys an email just to see what he comes back saying. 1666 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:37,400 We've actually doing this. 1667 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,200 This is going to take longer than we have. 1668 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,600 We're like over time and you're writing emails. 1669 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,280 Bro, I haven't got my glasses on. 1670 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,280 I can't see shit. 1671 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,280 This is just going to be a jumble of just punched letters. 1672 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,320 I'm sending to a stranger that I found on Google. 1673 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,360 We used to wake up to find we'd send emails. 1674 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:51,360 Yeah. 1675 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:52,600 I used to leave notes to myself like this all the time. 1676 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,600 Dear Ben, I'm sorry I hurt your liver. 1677 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,920 I love Ben, but it was just scribbled in like crayon or ash. 1678 01:03:58,920 --> 01:03:59,920 You know what I mean? 1679 01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:02,720 I once got fucked up and applied for a job at Apple. 1680 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:09,280 All I did was I attached a PDF copy of the entire script of the film hackers. 1681 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:10,280 Incredible. 1682 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,120 That's the best fucking thing. 1683 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:13,120 Right. 1684 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,120 I've sent that email. 1685 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,120 Fantastic. 1686 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:23,120 And we'll tune in next week to see what James Cameron says about the film pitch of the MET 1687 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,120 trajectory. 1688 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,120 I don't know how to. 1689 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:26,120 It's a working title. 1690 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:27,120 It's a working title. 1691 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:28,560 Some other bullshit happens. 1692 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,720 That sadly is all the time we have this week. 1693 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,880 Oh no guys. 1694 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,960 We fucking love each and every one of you so much. 1695 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:37,960 It's unbelievable. 1696 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:38,960 Truly, truly do. 1697 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:43,540 You make our days, you make our weeks, you make our fucking lives, you validate our existences. 1698 01:04:43,540 --> 01:04:45,820 We love this time that we spend with you. 1699 01:04:45,820 --> 01:04:47,120 Please keep reaching out. 1700 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:48,200 Join the fucking discord. 1701 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,600 Come and hang out with some of the coolest people that we've ever met in our entire lives. 1702 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,160 There's tons of bonus shit in there. 1703 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,520 We just post shit in there because where else are we going to post it? 1704 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:56,520 Patreon. 1705 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,400 We're not savvy enough for that bullshit. 1706 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,160 There is full episodes in there that we're just not releasing. 1707 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:02,160 Why? 1708 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,160 Don't know. 1709 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:04,160 I know why. 1710 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,160 Same. 1711 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:06,160 Let's brush over it. 1712 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:10,360 Ben is now going to wrap up the thoughts, themes and subtext of this movie to thank you for 1713 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,200 spending an hour every week with us. 1714 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,000 We know a lot of you listen on a Monday and that means the world to us. 1715 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,720 You've changed my outro on this, by the way. 1716 01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,680 I had this planned out and I was going to be hilarious. 1717 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,280 I was going to build it up. 1718 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,840 I was going to do this whole, buddy, I've got this whole thing planned out. 1719 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,240 I'm going to say exactly what Alien 3 says to the audience. 1720 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,440 And then when you were doing it, I was just going to stay fucking silent for the entire 1721 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:36,640 thing until you had to stop because you were out of breath and I was going to go bullshit. 1722 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:37,640 That was going to be it. 1723 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,120 But because I've seen how passionate you are about this and how much you've enjoyed yourself 1724 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,640 and I fucking enjoyed myself hearing everything that you've been saying that you've taught 1725 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:45,640 me about this film. 1726 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:46,640 That's incredible. 1727 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:47,640 Thank you for that. 1728 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:48,640 Very well. 1729 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:49,640 It's changed my entire out. 1730 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:50,640 All right. 1731 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:51,640 You ready? 1732 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:52,640 It's changed it. 1733 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:53,640 I'm going to just tell the audience to consume. 1734 01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:54,640 Okay. 1735 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,160 So hear me out. 1736 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:01,600 Fincher, I was getting his shit pushed in left, right and center by fucking anyone that 1737 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,080 had a finger in this pie. 1738 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,080 You know, I mean, they were like, director, are we buddy? 1739 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,280 You've done a fucking MTV music video. 1740 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:09,280 Shut up. 1741 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:10,280 Here's the thumb. 1742 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,040 And you know what he did? 1743 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,400 He worked his dick off. 1744 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,880 He worked his absolute dick off and he got some nuggets of joy in there. 1745 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:18,880 Even me. 1746 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,840 I hated this fucking film with a burning passion. 1747 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,600 I still got some joy out of this. 1748 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,160 So it doesn't matter what you're working on. 1749 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:30,560 It doesn't matter how fucking how little you think of what the contribution is that you're 1750 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:31,560 making. 1751 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,600 I'm telling you, buddy, someone out there is going to fucking adore it. 1752 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:35,920 It's worth doing. 1753 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,320 Do what you're doing. 1754 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:38,320 Follow your passions. 1755 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:39,520 I fucking love you. 1756 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:40,520 Give me a shit. 1757 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,080 I want to be the guy that's like, you know what? 1758 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,640 That's pretty fucking good. 1759 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:45,640 Unless it's not. 1760 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:46,640 And I'll just tell you straight. 1761 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:47,640 You know what I mean? 1762 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:48,640 I'm cutting. 1763 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:49,640 Also, fuck Alien 3. 1764 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:50,640 Don't cut this. 1765 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:51,640 Let me go. 1766 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:52,640 Let me fucking cut. 1767 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:53,640 You're the chef. 1768 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:54,640 Let me cook. 1769 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:55,640 Fuck you Fincher. 1770 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:56,640 It was my movie. 1771 01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:11,080 So I need to fucking put M.A.P. respect into you. 1772 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,080 I'm out. 1773 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,680 I'm out. 1774 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,040 I'm out. 1775 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,920 I'm out.