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Welcome to the debate. There is a very specific

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terror, I think, in watching someone build a

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house out of glass right in the middle of a war

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zone. Oh, yeah, completely. You know, you stand

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there watching them polish the panes, pretending

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the world outside is just completely peaceful,

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and you're just waiting for the inevitable rock

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to shatter the whole thing. Which is exactly

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what we saw happen. Today, we are looking at

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the shattering of the Novus family. This is our

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seventh discussion focusing on the expansive

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universe created by the author Neogentrix. Right.

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And we really have to look back at the fierce

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clash from our third discussion, I think. Oh,

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we definitely do. Because back then we debated

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the family's strict, self -imposed isolation.

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We argued over whether their rigid pacifism was,

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you know, this beautifully realized ideal or

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just a dangerously naive fantasy. And we were

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operating with... Completely incomplete information,

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which fundamentally changes the landscape of

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that earlier conversation. We absolutely were,

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because Act 2 delivered just a shocking revelation.

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The mother's dying words entirely upended our

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previous assumptions. Yeah, it was wild. As she

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passed away in Zeonix's arms, she literally told

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him, Do not worry, son. We knew about your training.

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Finish your training and avenge us. Head north.

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There you shall learn the secret of your grandfather.

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It forces a total structural reread of the early

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chapters, honestly. Exactly. So here is our central

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debate for today. Now that it's confirmed the

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parents were fully aware of the multiversal secrets,

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and the martial arts training all along, was

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hiding the truth from Zeonix an act of supreme

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love or a catastrophic parenting failure? That

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is the big question. And as a secondary point,

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how exactly does the sudden appearance of a mysterious

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stranger fit into their violent downfall? I think

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we are going to find ourselves at opposite ends

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of this once again, perhaps even more firmly

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entrenched than before, if I'm being honest.

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Oh, I guarantee it, because I am stating right

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now that keeping Zeonix in the dark was a massive

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betrayal that left him totally blindsided. Wow,

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okay. And furthermore, I believe their doom was

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not a random tragedy, but an inside job orchestrated

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by a spy. And I maintain that the parents acted

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out of profound love. They made a conscious choice

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to break the cycle of the Congo War. And, well,

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I believe your conspiracy theory completely misreads

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the foundational world building of this universe.

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All right, well, let me lay out my stance clearly.

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First of all, I have to admit that I was completely

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wrong in the past. We both were. Yeah, the parents

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were not oblivious at all. I am genuinely shocked

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at ourselves for missing the signs in Act 1.

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We assumed they were just clueless suburbanites

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hoping the violence of Pekadesh would pass them

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by, but they knew exactly what was happening.

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They absolutely did. However, knowing that, I

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am doubling down fiercely on my anger toward

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them. I argue that knowing the truth and still

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keeping Xehanix in the dark was infinitely worse

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than being ignorant. Infinitely worse? Really?

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Yes! They left a target on his back without giving

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him the knowledge, the context, or the defensive

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capability to survive it. And frankly, this brings

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up the massive Mrs. Kazuki plot hole for me.

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Oh boy, here we go. Hear me out. If the parents

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were so fiercely protective and hiding massive

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multiversal secrets from Eon Pax, why did the

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mother suddenly let this random old friend stay

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the night right before the attack? I am arguing

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aggressively that Mrs. Kazuki is a spy directly

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connected to the attacker, Crater Steve. Right.

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Well, I come at this from a completely different

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perspective. And I actually feel entirely vindicated

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today. Vindicated? How? Because the parents weren't

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ignorant fools. They made a highly calculated

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choice out of pure love to give their son 19

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years of peace. But it killed them. They were

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intentionally breaking the generational violence

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of the Congo War. A conflict that had already

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consumed their ancestors. Even if hiding the

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secret ultimately got them killed, it was a noble,

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successful sacrifice. I just can't see it that

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way. And I want to immediately push back on this

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Mrs. Kazuki spy theory. While I understand the

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temptation to connect those dots, projecting

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a conspiracy onto her ignores the standard narrative

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mechanics of how Neo expands this universe. It's

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not a projection. It's right there in the text.

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She was a normal family friend used to establish

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the broader geography, nothing more. I see why

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you think that, but let me give you a different

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perspective on the implications of the mother's

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final breath. Sheer disbelief does not even begin

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to cover how I felt reading that scene. Oh, same.

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It was a massive shock. The realization that

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they watched him sneak out every single night.

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They watched him train with Kenjin Sensei in

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the woods. They knew the martial legacy of the

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Whistling Swordsman was waking up inside their

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son. and they said absolutely nothing to guide

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him? It is a stunning revelation. It completely

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recontextualizes every single interaction they

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had with him in those early chapters. Exactly.

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Think about the scene in the workshop. Every

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time the father told him to focus on whittling

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wood and fixing metal instead of fighting, It

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wasn't out of ignorance of his potential. No,

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it wasn't. It was a desperate plea for him to

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choose a different path. It was an active, daily

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choice to reject the machinery of war. But I'm

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not convinced by that line of reasoning, because

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by letting Zeonix think he was sneaking around

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a train with Kenshin, the parents denied him

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crucial context. They were letting him be a kid.

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They knew Eon Pax was a threat. They knew the

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forces of the Congo War, a conflict that literally

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reshaped the geopolitical borders of Pekadesh,

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were still actively hunting the remnants of his

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grandfather's lineage. Right, but... Eon Pox

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doesn't just conquer territories. He eradicates

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bloodlines to prevent uprisings. The parents

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understood that operational reality, yet they

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let their son wield a sword with a blindfold

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on. A blindfold is a bit strong. The mother literally

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told him to avenge us with her dying breath.

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That is absolute proof she knew violence was

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inevitable. If she knew the forces of Eon Pox

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would eventually find them, why on earth would

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she not prepare him for that reality? Because

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preparing him for war guarantees that he becomes

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a soldier. I defend the parents' right to try

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for peace. Even a doomed peace? Look at what

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they actually accomplished. They successfully

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kept the monsters of the Congo War away for nearly

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two decades. 19 years of safety is an entire

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lifetime on the continent of Pekadesh. Okay,

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but it was built on a lie. The father fixing

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metal instead of breaking bodies wasn't a lie.

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It was a chosen way of life. They didn't want

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him burdened by the crushing weight of Eon Pax's

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regime or the bloody legacy of Xeon clerics.

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Until it was absolutely unavoidable. But it was

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unavoidable. If they train him from birth, they

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are the ones conscripting him into a war he never

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chose. It is like building a dam to hold back

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a massive river, but never teaching the people

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in the valley how to swim. That's not quite the

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same thing. The dam didn't eliminate the water.

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It just guaranteed a catastrophic flood when

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it eventually broke. Because they didn't prepare

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him, the fire reached their doorstep and completely

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destroyed them. Well, they shielded him from

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the fire for as long as humanly possible. And

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how did that fire reach them? We have to ask

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how Eon Pax's forces found them so suddenly.

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If they were perfectly hidden for 19 years, cloaking

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their multiversal signatures, what broke their

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cover? Oh. I see where this is going. The timeline

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with Mrs. Kazuki is highly, highly suspicious.

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I think we are risking missing the emotional

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forest for the trees here, but go ahead. Look

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at the details directly from the text. The mother

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introduces this woman out of nowhere. Zeonix

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notes explicitly that he has never seen her before

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in his 19 years of life. Sure. Kids don't know

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all their parents' old friends. She sits at their

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dinner table and conveniently mentions that her

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son's name is Steve and that his work permits

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him to travel across the continent. It's just

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a conversation. The very next day, the family

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is brutally attacked by a traveling gunman who

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reveals his name is Crater Steve. Which is a

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complete coincidence. Connect the dots here.

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Mrs. Kazuki was a scout. She was a spy who infiltrated

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the house, confirmed the grandfather's lineage,

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and marked the location for Crater Steve. That

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is, that is a massive leap. Why else would the

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mother, who we just established is fiercely guarding

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a multiversal secret? invite a total stranger

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into a home that is supposedly a fortress of

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secrecy. I'm sorry, but I just don't buy that.

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Let me tell you why. You are taking standard

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narrative world building and twisting it into

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a sinister plot. It fits perfectly, though. Neil

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uses side characters to flesh out the setting

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constantly. Mrs. Kazuki exists in that scene

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to introduce us, the readers, to the broader

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geography of the planet before Xeonyx has to

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traverse it. By talking about her son, Steve?

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She talks about traveling north to Victory City

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and Vargas Prime. She mentions the trade routes

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along the Sea of Monmiota. And she just happens

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to have a traveling son named Steve who just

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happens to be in the area right before a guy

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named Crater Steve burns their lives to the ground?

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You really think that is a coincidence? Yes,

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I do. Steve is a common name, and Crater Steve

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is a moniker earned in the fighting pits of the

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Congo War, as we learn later. I mean, come on.

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You are grasping at straws to blame someone other

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than the actual invading force for the attack.

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Neo is expanding the universe, laying the groundwork

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for locations Zeonix will eventually visit in

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Act 3. It is structural worldbuilding. I think

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it's foreshadowing. I respect your attention

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to detail, but I really think you need to put

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on a tinfoil hat and we need to table this conspiracy

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theory. It acts as a distraction from the actual

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thematic core of the scene, which is the parents'

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choices and the consequences of their silence.

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I strongly disagree that it's a distraction,

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because if she is a spy, it means their policy

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of radical trust and pacifism is exactly what

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got them killed. Let's focus on what we actually

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know for sure. Fine, fine. We will table Mrs.

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Kazuki for now. I am keeping my eye on her, though.

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Let's return to the main issue, the parenting

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deadlock. You claim their silence was a noble

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sacrifice. It was. I insist that the secret directly

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resulted in the mother dying in front of Xeonyx,

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leaving him with a blood -soaked legacy he barely

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understands. She died protecting the 19 years

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of innocence she gave him. That innocence has

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value. At what cost, though? In a universe governed

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by multiversal warlords, giving a child a mundane,

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boring Tuesday is a massive triumph. But again,

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at what cost? He had no idea about the political

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realities of Pekadesh. He didn't know his grandfather

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was a high -value target for Aeon Pax. He was

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safe for 19 years. When creator Steve arrived

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with plasma weaponry, Zeonix was fighting with

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a practice blade in sheer panic. They set him

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up to fail! They didn't set him up to fail. They

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were ambushed. If they knew he was training with

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Kenshin, they knew he was flaring his Aether

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signature. They knew he was becoming visible

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to the enemy. To let him do that without explaining

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the stakes is negligence. That's a compelling

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argument, but have you considered the actual

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text of her final moments? Focus on the mother's

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peaceful passing. Peaceful? She was shot! Cite

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the text, though. She smiled as she passed away

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in his arms. That is not the reaction of a woman

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who realizes she made a catastrophic parenting

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failing. She was dying. People in shock don't

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always react rationally. It wasn't shock. She

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smiled because she died knowing her son had found

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his true path naturally. He sought out Kenshin

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Sensei on his own. Well, yeah, but... He picked

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up the sword on his own. The heavy burden of

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the whistling swordsman wasn't forced onto him

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by his parents' expectations. or their unresolved

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trauma from the Congo War. He chose it. I don't

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know if I'd call it a free choice when he lacked

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all the facts. She smiled because she knew his

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spirit was strong enough to handle what was coming,

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precisely because his spirit wasn't crushed by

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the weight of war during his childhood. That's

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an interesting point, though I would frame it

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differently. I look at her saying, this was the

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work of Eon Pax. You must defeat him to save

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your grandfather. Right. She drops a massive,

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world -altering piece of context on him while

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she is actively bleeding out. That is information

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he desperately needed weeks, months, or even

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years ago. I completely disagree. To withhold

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the identity of your family's greatest enemy

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until your literal last breath is baffling to

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me. How is he supposed to process the grief of

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losing his parents while simultaneously processing

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that the supreme ruler of the multiverse is hunting

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him? Because if she tells him at 15, he goes

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looking for Eon packs at 15 and he dies at 15.

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Not necessarily. You are assuming that giving

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him the information early would have empowered

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him. I argue it would have destroyed him. If

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she tells him at 15, he starts training properly

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instead of whittling wood in the shed. Maybe

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he learns the advanced techniques of his bloodline.

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He was just a kid. Maybe he is strong enough

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to stop Crater Steve from burning their house

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down when he inevitably arrives. Knowledge is

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preparation. By hiding the truth, they ensured

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his first real battle was one he was completely

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unequipped to fight. You cannot out -train a

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multiversal regime like Eon Pax's by practicing

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in your backyard no matter how much context you

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have. It's better than nothing. Eon Pax controls

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entire planetary systems. The parents played

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the only hand they realistically had. They traded

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their lives for his time. They just delayed the

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inevitable. They bought him time to grow up unburdened,

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to develop a moral compass outside the context

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of a battlefield. And when the time ran out,

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when the rock finally shattered the glass house,

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they gave him their blessing to fight. I guess

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we'll just have to disagree on whether that was

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worth it. That is a tragedy, yes, but it is a

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successful parenting strategy in an impossible

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situation. We are just never going to see eye

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to eye on this. I maintain firmly that the parents'

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forced ignorance was a blinding, fatal mistake.

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And I firmly reject that. They let him walk into

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a war zone wearing a blindfold. They knew his

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grandfather's lineage would eventually draw fire.

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And instead of giving him a shield, they gave

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him a carving knife and hoped for the best. That's

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a very harsh reading. The cost of that hope was

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their own lives and the psychological scarring

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of their son. And I stand by the belief that

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it was a tragic but profoundly beautiful sacrifice.

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They bought a child a normal life in a universe

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that actively destroys normality. Normal for

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Pekadesh, maybe? They shielded him from the Congo

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War's legacy for 19 years. And because of that,

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when Zeonix finally picked up the sword, he did

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so as a complete, grounded human being, not as

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a child soldier broken by his parents' wars.

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It seems we are ending in a deadlock. We're going

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to have to agree to disagree on whether hiding

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the truth from Xeonyx was the right parenting

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move or a strategic disaster. Yeah, I think we

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will. We will just have to leave it to the listener

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to weigh the evidence for themselves. Which is

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exactly why this specific conflict is so engaging.

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It forces us to constantly re -evaluate the text

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based on new evidence to question the very nature

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of protection and preparation. Absolutely. And

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speaking of re -evaluating, If the parents were

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a shield that ultimately shattered, it forces

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us to look at the sword they left him with. Ooh,

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nice transition. Thank you. We're going to wrap

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up for today, but be sure to join us for our

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next discussion, because we are going to take

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these massive new revelations and completely

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re -evaluate the motives of Kenshin Sensei. That's

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going to be a huge one. Is he really just a helpful

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mentor who happened to find a promising student

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in the woods, or is he playing a much darker

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game with the Whistling Swordsman's legacy? I'm

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sure you already have a sprawling conspiracy

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theory ready for that one, too. You know I do.

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Until next time.
