I was afraid that at some point Osama Bin Laden
would appear outside my window and shoot me with
a gun. The chances were low, but not zero. I
get really annoyed when I listen to the radio
and they play Michael Jackson music. It was maybe
in my thirties, when I first started to look
to see what age people were. Oh yeah, I like
doing that. I like doing that as well. And I
have never stopped. Why wouldn't you be bothered
doing anything? Why don't we all just lie on
the floor all day? Like, what's the point of
being alive, you know, if you don't do stuff?
When are you ever content with what you've got?
When I got to 100 ,000, a few weeks after that,
that was the most kind of like downbeat I was
because I was like, I don't feel any different.
But because the camera was on me, I'm like, hey,
I'm happy. No, because I don't want him having
footage of me being a dickhead. Spiralling is
a new podcast coming this summer, 2026. I'm Zara
Gladman. I'm not a therapist, but people like
to tell me their problems and I like to record
them for content.