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I was afraid that at some point Osama Bin Laden

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would appear outside my window and shoot me with

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a gun. The chances were low, but not zero. I

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get really annoyed when I listen to the radio

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and they play Michael Jackson music. It was maybe

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in my thirties, when I first started to look

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to see what age people were. Oh yeah, I like

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doing that. I like doing that as well. And I

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have never stopped. Why wouldn't you be bothered

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doing anything? Why don't we all just lie on

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the floor all day? Like, what's the point of

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being alive, you know, if you don't do stuff?

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When are you ever content with what you've got?

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When I got to 100 ,000, a few weeks after that,

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that was the most kind of like downbeat I was

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because I was like, I don't feel any different.

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But because the camera was on me, I'm like, hey,

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I'm happy. No, because I don't want him having

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footage of me being a dickhead. Spiralling is

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a new podcast coming this summer, 2026. I'm Zara

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Gladman. I'm not a therapist, but people like

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to tell me their problems and I like to record

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them for content.