WEBVTT 00:00:02.700 --> 00:00:06.419 Hey everyone, welcome to the Aging in Place directory 00:00:06.419 --> 00:00:09.460 podcast, your go -to resource for everything 00:00:09.460 --> 00:00:12.199 you need to know about aging comfortably and 00:00:12.199 --> 00:00:16.179 safely at home. I'm Esther Kane, a retired occupational 00:00:16.179 --> 00:00:19.260 therapist and a certified Aging in Place specialist. 00:00:19.780 --> 00:00:22.859 Each week I'll bring you expert advice, inspiring 00:00:22.859 --> 00:00:26.460 stories, and practical tips to help you and or 00:00:26.460 --> 00:00:29.399 your loved ones thrive at home. So let's get 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:36.859 started. Hello, everyone. Welcome to our podcast. 00:00:37.659 --> 00:00:40.020 Actually, this podcast is going to be broadcast 00:00:40.020 --> 00:00:44.579 on two on our senior safety advice. podcast and 00:00:44.579 --> 00:00:46.939 the Aging in Place directory podcast. So you 00:00:46.939 --> 00:00:49.939 can catch it on both. And of course, it'll be 00:00:49.939 --> 00:00:53.600 on YouTube. You know, today we have, I'm so excited. 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:56.960 We have a fantastic guest, Saeed Sachi, the founder 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:00.640 and CEO of this wonderful, beautiful mobile app 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:05.060 called Simply Tend. He is on a mission, I think, 00:01:05.299 --> 00:01:09.159 to make Aging in Place easier and safer for seniors 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:12.620 and of course, their family caregivers and caregivers. 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:17.640 general. Simply Tend itself is a mobile app designed 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:21.260 to support both family caregivers and seniors 00:01:21.260 --> 00:01:25.980 in managing the care of older adults, but also 00:01:25.980 --> 00:01:29.640 helping older adults to live independently. So 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:32.319 I'm excited to get into this conversation and 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:35.939 learn more about the app. and about Said and 00:01:35.939 --> 00:01:39.079 how he is helping to change the landscape of 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:42.480 caregiving. So welcome to the show. Welcome, 00:01:42.500 --> 00:01:46.159 welcome Said. Good morning and thank you. I'm 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:49.939 very excited to be your guest today. Thank you 00:01:49.939 --> 00:01:54.359 so much for inviting me Esther. Oh, I am actually 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:56.540 honored. When I first took a look at this app, 00:01:57.180 --> 00:01:59.900 I was just, you know, I see a lot of apps, I 00:01:59.900 --> 00:02:02.459 get a lot of emails, people telling me their 00:02:02.459 --> 00:02:06.620 app or telling me about it, and they have just 00:02:06.620 --> 00:02:10.840 a few features, but yours seems very comprehensive. 00:02:11.219 --> 00:02:14.199 I think it covers just about everything and more. 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:20.449 It's the Alexa of apps. for caregiving. It's 00:02:20.449 --> 00:02:24.430 one thing that has everything. So I love that. 00:02:24.550 --> 00:02:28.810 I love that. But I do have to ask you, what inspired 00:02:28.810 --> 00:02:32.969 you to create this? How did the whole thing start? 00:02:34.169 --> 00:02:42.629 So, yes. In 2010, I became myself and my sister. 00:02:43.090 --> 00:02:46.819 We became the caregiver for our mother. overnight, 00:02:47.300 --> 00:02:50.680 we moved. I live in New Jersey. So we moved our 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:53.780 mother, who had Parkinson's at the time, we moved 00:02:53.780 --> 00:02:57.939 her to New Jersey. And we both were working full 00:02:57.939 --> 00:03:01.780 time. And we both had a family of our own to 00:03:01.780 --> 00:03:07.539 care for. And we became caregiver and it was 00:03:07.539 --> 00:03:11.639 very stressful. We had to divide the caregiving 00:03:11.639 --> 00:03:14.939 responsibility between myself and my sister. 00:03:17.539 --> 00:03:23.840 So that's how I got involved. And when I retired 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:28.219 two years ago, I was inspired. I felt inspired 00:03:28.219 --> 00:03:33.500 to create the app so I can help the family caregivers 00:03:33.500 --> 00:03:37.539 who are in the same situation that I was. So 00:03:37.539 --> 00:03:39.500 you're definitely coming in from the perspective 00:03:39.500 --> 00:03:43.479 of experience. Yes. You know what it's like. 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:46.939 And actually most of the features that we have 00:03:46.939 --> 00:03:51.960 in the applications, the applications that are 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:54.780 influenced by my own experience, what I needed 00:03:54.780 --> 00:03:59.120 at the time. And that's why we designed it that 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:03.360 way. Yeah, I love that. Your app, the SimplyTend 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:07.479 app has a spam call blocker. which I have never 00:04:07.479 --> 00:04:11.800 seen in any other app. I love the meal reminder, 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:15.900 the medication reminders. I mean, I know those 00:04:15.900 --> 00:04:19.699 are all available in other tools, but not all 00:04:19.699 --> 00:04:25.560 in one app. So I love that. I think that that's 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:29.360 amazing. And the geofence feature, can you talk 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:31.819 a little bit more about the individual features 00:04:31.819 --> 00:04:37.470 of the app? Yes. At the high level, the application 00:04:37.470 --> 00:04:41.449 is a remote care application. There are two apps. 00:04:41.670 --> 00:04:44.529 One goes on a senior phone and one goes on a 00:04:44.529 --> 00:04:46.970 caregiver phone. And that's how they're linked 00:04:46.970 --> 00:04:52.670 together. And that's how we accomplish the remote 00:04:52.670 --> 00:04:56.990 functionality. What's unique about the app is 00:04:56.990 --> 00:05:00.089 that it focuses on both seniors and caregivers. 00:05:00.670 --> 00:05:05.949 So we understand that if they we have a remote 00:05:05.949 --> 00:05:09.129 app that means that the senior could be home 00:05:09.129 --> 00:05:13.930 alone at times. So we promote independence and 00:05:13.930 --> 00:05:16.649 safety. So we want to make sure that a senior 00:05:16.649 --> 00:05:20.370 stays safe while they're home alone. Number two 00:05:20.370 --> 00:05:27.209 is that we provide a complete care for the senior, 00:05:27.430 --> 00:05:29.889 like medication, meal reminder, you know, all 00:05:29.889 --> 00:05:33.790 those that you mentioned. Number three is that 00:05:33.790 --> 00:05:41.230 we have support, online support for the caregiver. 00:05:41.589 --> 00:05:46.730 And these are in the form of documentation and 00:05:46.730 --> 00:05:53.490 videos that we provide for the caregivers. So 00:05:53.490 --> 00:05:57.569 the whole goal of the application was to support 00:05:57.569 --> 00:06:01.250 both seniors and also caregivers. What kind of 00:06:01.250 --> 00:06:08.000 videos? We have self care. videos that we have 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:13.959 on the app. We actually the app has a section 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:16.240 in there for the caregiver has a section in there 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:21.560 that every day we show a new article. And the 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:23.519 articles are like, you know, health information 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:27.610 for the senior videos. or some feature about 00:06:27.610 --> 00:06:31.329 the SimpliTent that we want to highlight for 00:06:31.329 --> 00:06:34.750 the caregiver. And it changes on a daily basis. 00:06:35.810 --> 00:06:38.730 But the caregiver can click a button and look 00:06:38.730 --> 00:06:42.110 at all the topics and choose whatever topic they 00:06:42.110 --> 00:06:45.709 want to review and learn about. That's excellent. 00:06:46.589 --> 00:06:53.519 So it's caregiver training on top of I can't 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:55.579 imagine anything else you could possibly add 00:06:55.579 --> 00:06:58.939 to this. I mean, it was it was that actually 00:06:58.939 --> 00:07:02.279 came from my own experience. Because when I became 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:06.199 a caregiver, I was googling everything my mother 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:08.800 had Parkinson's, I was googling, you know, Parkinson 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:11.720 to stages, you know, what do I have to do? And, 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:15.819 you know, so So that's why I wanted to add this 00:07:15.819 --> 00:07:17.860 in there. And we are working on it. We keep adding 00:07:17.860 --> 00:07:20.819 stuff to the database right now, adding different 00:07:20.819 --> 00:07:24.360 articles. But we wanted to provide some, at least, 00:07:24.620 --> 00:07:27.620 resources for the caregivers so that they can 00:07:27.620 --> 00:07:32.339 get this information easily. Wow. It's amazing. 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:35.879 Does it also have an interactive where they can 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:39.339 ask questions and then get answers? Or is that 00:07:39.339 --> 00:07:44.720 coming? Very good question. So what we tried 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:48.579 to do when we started, we launched the app last 00:07:48.579 --> 00:07:53.180 February. We launched our application and I've 00:07:53.180 --> 00:07:56.420 been talking to different caregivers and I've 00:07:56.420 --> 00:08:00.259 been talking to people who support caregivers 00:08:00.259 --> 00:08:07.379 and they provided me great information and actually 00:08:07.379 --> 00:08:14.889 we have updated app since last February. Actually, 00:08:14.930 --> 00:08:18.389 four times. We just launched a new update last 00:08:18.389 --> 00:08:23.970 week. And we are learning. And we try to keep 00:08:23.970 --> 00:08:28.649 the app simple. And it was very important for 00:08:28.649 --> 00:08:32.090 us to make sure that both senior app and caregiver 00:08:32.090 --> 00:08:35.210 apps are simple. And some of the features that 00:08:35.210 --> 00:08:38.309 actually we didn't know how to make it user friendly. 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:41.759 Yeah. We didn't include in the app. And as we're 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:44.740 learning, so you have a great point regarding 00:08:44.740 --> 00:08:51.100 the two -way conversation on some of these topics. 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:55.200 And I think it's a great idea. Once we learn 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:58.159 how to implement those simply or user -friendly, 00:08:58.740 --> 00:09:02.059 we will do it. Yeah. And you're right. That's 00:09:02.059 --> 00:09:04.600 very important about keeping it user -friendly 00:09:04.600 --> 00:09:07.399 because it can have all the bells and whistles, 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:10.009 but you're right. If people find it difficult 00:09:10.009 --> 00:09:14.129 to use, then it doesn't matter. So do you then 00:09:14.129 --> 00:09:17.529 what kind of feedback are you getting from the 00:09:17.529 --> 00:09:19.610 from your clients, from your customers who are 00:09:19.610 --> 00:09:22.509 currently using it? And I have to tell you that 00:09:22.509 --> 00:09:25.029 I think the price point that you put this at 00:09:25.029 --> 00:09:27.389 is is an excellent price point. You can talk 00:09:27.389 --> 00:09:30.710 a little bit about that and then, you know, tell 00:09:30.710 --> 00:09:34.330 us what feedback you're getting. So regarding 00:09:34.330 --> 00:09:40.320 your feedback, you know. As I said, I go to the 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:44.200 shows and also I try to go to some of the senior 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:47.000 centers and I sit down with the folks and actually 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:49.480 we have very good conversations. We go through 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:53.159 the app and they have given me great feedback. 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:56.779 For example, the meal reminder. I didn't have 00:09:56.779 --> 00:09:59.159 the meal reminder in the app when we launched 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:02.639 in February. We added it in there. We have added 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:08.009 a feature regarding temporary caregiver. Most 00:10:08.009 --> 00:10:15.149 family members, you can't do caregiving 24 -7. 00:10:15.649 --> 00:10:18.090 You need a break. You need to get a day off. 00:10:18.509 --> 00:10:22.750 You need to go to work or whatever. So the feedback 00:10:22.750 --> 00:10:26.629 we got was, can you add a temporary caregiver? 00:10:27.129 --> 00:10:30.149 So we did that. Now you can, in the app, You 00:10:30.149 --> 00:10:34.490 can select a friend or family member and put 00:10:34.490 --> 00:10:38.230 their emails in there. And they have access to 00:10:38.230 --> 00:10:41.429 the same information. They can download the app. 00:10:41.710 --> 00:10:46.409 Now they can see the medication schedule, their 00:10:46.409 --> 00:10:49.389 activity schedule. They get all those notifications. 00:10:49.929 --> 00:10:54.250 In addition, we have care information in the 00:10:54.250 --> 00:10:58.620 app. What that I mean is that You have doctor's 00:10:58.620 --> 00:11:01.539 name in their contact information, the hospital 00:11:01.539 --> 00:11:05.919 contact information, seniors allergy information, 00:11:06.379 --> 00:11:09.240 the diet requirements, the daily needs they have 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:13.139 if they need to help to get dressed or they help 00:11:13.139 --> 00:11:19.100 for meal preparation. All that information is 00:11:19.100 --> 00:11:22.789 in the app. So when the temporary caregiver gets 00:11:22.789 --> 00:11:25.289 access to that, they have all that information. 00:11:25.470 --> 00:11:28.210 So the primary caregiver doesn't have to explain 00:11:28.210 --> 00:11:32.230 all that information to the temporary caregiver. 00:11:32.450 --> 00:11:34.269 Okay, when is the time for them to eat or when 00:11:34.269 --> 00:11:37.389 is it time for the medication? They have all 00:11:37.389 --> 00:11:42.129 those in the app that access to it and it reduces 00:11:42.129 --> 00:11:45.009 the error. You know, and a stress, you know, 00:11:45.169 --> 00:11:47.409 I was a caregiver between me and my sister. We 00:11:47.409 --> 00:11:50.529 had to write things down to make sure that what 00:11:50.529 --> 00:11:54.490 she did, what she did and what I'm doing and 00:11:54.490 --> 00:11:57.990 what she learned, what, you know, what I learned 00:11:57.990 --> 00:12:00.950 from what we were doing, you know, because every 00:12:00.950 --> 00:12:04.450 day, you know, her symptoms were different. Every 00:12:04.450 --> 00:12:07.529 day something was different. But my mother that 00:12:07.529 --> 00:12:12.320 we had to communicate. Yeah, exactly. As you 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:15.580 said, the stages as she progressed. Right, right. 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:17.879 I'm sorry you have to go through that with your 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:21.759 mother. Thank you. Thank you. So this app, it 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:23.279 provides that information. It's all in the app. 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:27.820 So the temporary caregiver will download the 00:12:27.820 --> 00:12:31.779 app, they have access to it. And then all the 00:12:31.779 --> 00:12:34.299 notifications will go to temporary caregiver. 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:37.039 And when the primary caregiver comes back from 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:41.539 their break, they can... disabled that and all 00:12:41.539 --> 00:12:44.460 the notes because she comes back to the primary 00:12:44.460 --> 00:12:48.279 caregiver. Excellent. Excellent. You mentioned 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:51.899 about the pricing. Yeah, as I said, there are 00:12:51.899 --> 00:12:55.360 two applications. The senior app is free. The 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:59.700 caregiver pays $5 .95 a month. We wanted to make 00:12:59.700 --> 00:13:02.759 sure, I mean, to be honest with you, the caregivers 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:06.980 pay a lot of money out of pocket when they're 00:13:06.980 --> 00:13:12.159 a caregiver. That's true. And, you know, you 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:14.240 don't realize that, you know, because you even 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:17.720 you're in the mode of caregiving, you know, you 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:20.460 just do it because this, you know, it has to 00:13:20.460 --> 00:13:23.259 be done. And I didn't want to make the app too 00:13:23.259 --> 00:13:27.179 expensive to do for the for the caregivers. And 00:13:27.179 --> 00:13:30.820 it's $5 .95 a month. The senior app is free. 00:13:31.419 --> 00:13:35.960 The temporary caregiver app is also free. So 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:39.480 there's only one price. Excellent, you know, 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:42.519 keeping it simple. You know, as an occupational 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:44.980 therapist I worked in home health for a little 00:13:44.980 --> 00:13:48.450 while, for a year. And I'm mostly, I specialized 00:13:48.450 --> 00:13:53.149 in brain trauma, head injury in geriatrics. And 00:13:53.149 --> 00:13:55.750 I mean, something like this would have been amazing 00:13:55.750 --> 00:13:58.149 because you're right, walking into someone's 00:13:58.149 --> 00:14:02.669 home who they rarely get the same caregiver on 00:14:02.669 --> 00:14:05.149 a consistent basis. You know, they have family, 00:14:05.149 --> 00:14:07.070 of course, but then they, you know, someone on 00:14:07.070 --> 00:14:09.669 Tuesday, someone on Thursday, someone on Friday, 00:14:09.950 --> 00:14:12.889 and then sharing that information amongst all 00:14:12.889 --> 00:14:16.019 those people is not so easy. Like you said, There's 00:14:16.019 --> 00:14:19.120 a lot of notes on the kitchen counter next to 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:21.299 the medicine. This is what happened. This is 00:14:21.299 --> 00:14:24.940 what I did. This is what she, he did. So you're 00:14:24.940 --> 00:14:28.240 right. Having an app like this is excellent. 00:14:29.460 --> 00:14:33.659 I wish that had been around back then. Yes, me 00:14:33.659 --> 00:14:38.580 too. Well, you've done an amazing job putting 00:14:38.580 --> 00:14:41.360 it together. What prompted you to put in the 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:46.669 spam call blocker feature? Yes. So when we talk 00:14:46.669 --> 00:14:50.990 about the safety, there are like two levels of 00:14:50.990 --> 00:14:55.450 safety I wanted to address. One was the whole 00:14:55.450 --> 00:15:01.570 smartphone safety, you know, and because I don't 00:15:01.570 --> 00:15:05.309 know about you, but I get many, many calls during 00:15:05.309 --> 00:15:09.210 the day and there are sales calls, there are 00:15:09.210 --> 00:15:14.769 spam calls, and we get ourselves into trouble 00:15:14.769 --> 00:15:21.929 sometimes, you know, and even, you know, I had 00:15:21.929 --> 00:15:24.629 a friend, this wasn't my, my mother actually 00:15:24.629 --> 00:15:27.370 experienced, but we had a friend who actually 00:15:27.370 --> 00:15:33.409 spent $15 ,000 on target gift cards from a spam 00:15:33.409 --> 00:15:41.960 call. So, so, so It was critical for us to block 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:46.440 those spam call. And the way we do it is when 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:49.139 senior downloads the application, they create 00:15:49.139 --> 00:15:54.899 a friend and family contact list. And if the 00:15:54.899 --> 00:15:57.299 call comes in and is not part of that friends 00:15:57.299 --> 00:16:01.019 and family contact list, it goes to the voicemail. 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:06.960 So the senior won't get that call. disable it. 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:09.840 If they don't want that, they can disable the 00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:13.659 feature. They can turn it off or turn it on. 00:16:13.980 --> 00:16:16.419 The other part of the smartphone that I thought 00:16:16.419 --> 00:16:20.399 it was important was these smartphones come in 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:24.320 with many, many applications in there. They're 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:26.559 preloaded with many applications. Some of these 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:28.639 applications, they have a lot of advertising 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:34.000 in there. Some are banking applications. The 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.539 other feature in there, you can block from certain 00:16:37.539 --> 00:16:44.080 apps from opening. So Senior won't have access 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:47.899 to those apps. They can simply use the other 00:16:47.899 --> 00:16:50.980 apps on their phone, but some apps doesn't open. 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:57.059 So we have that feature also in there. And from 00:16:57.059 --> 00:16:59.600 the phone again, from phone safety, one thing 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:04.210 was important was battery reminding seniors to 00:17:04.210 --> 00:17:08.589 charge their phones. So that's a good one. Yes. 00:17:08.849 --> 00:17:12.569 So we have in there, if the battery goes below 00:17:12.569 --> 00:17:16.089 25%, the senior will get a reminder, but the 00:17:16.089 --> 00:17:18.529 caregiver also gets a reminder that, you know, 00:17:18.710 --> 00:17:22.289 remind your loved one to charge their battery. 00:17:22.549 --> 00:17:26.410 So that those three features mainly focused on 00:17:26.410 --> 00:17:31.269 the smartphone features. The other part of the 00:17:31.269 --> 00:17:34.730 safety was we wanted to make sure that seniors 00:17:34.730 --> 00:17:40.049 not only safe at home, but also outdoors. You 00:17:40.049 --> 00:17:45.509 know, I mean, I'm a senior. Me too. I go for 00:17:45.509 --> 00:17:49.789 a walk all the time, you know, and sometimes, 00:17:49.789 --> 00:17:51.829 you know, you get disoriented. You don't know 00:17:51.829 --> 00:17:54.970 where you are. So we have added a button, a pre 00:17:54.970 --> 00:17:58.509 -programmed button on the phone that is pre -programmed 00:17:58.509 --> 00:18:01.059 to the home address. So they can press a button, 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:03.180 they can walk in direction to their home. So 00:18:03.180 --> 00:18:05.980 that's one feature. Okay. And the caregiver will 00:18:05.980 --> 00:18:09.400 get notified that, hey, you know, they're lost, 00:18:09.660 --> 00:18:13.420 you may want to contact them. Okay. Number two 00:18:13.420 --> 00:18:17.819 feature is that the caregiver always knows senior's 00:18:17.819 --> 00:18:21.240 real time location. So at all times they can 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:24.400 click a button, they can see real time, senior's 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:28.299 real time location. Okay. Number three is is 00:18:28.299 --> 00:18:31.660 geofence that you mentioned. So the caregiver 00:18:31.660 --> 00:18:37.140 can set the parameter, you know, like a mile 00:18:37.140 --> 00:18:41.920 from home or two miles from home. And when the 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:45.680 senior crosses that boundary, two things happen. 00:18:45.779 --> 00:18:50.079 One is senior gets a text message that is customized 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:52.240 by the caregiver. You know, you can put anything 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:55.420 in there. Senior will get a text message. Number 00:18:55.420 --> 00:18:58.170 two is caregiver will get a notification that 00:18:58.170 --> 00:19:04.670 they went too far from home. So these two, I 00:19:04.670 --> 00:19:06.569 mean, the three features that we put in there 00:19:06.569 --> 00:19:10.549 to take care of our seniors when they're outdoor. 00:19:11.450 --> 00:19:14.650 It's excellent. I mean, it's a full featured 00:19:14.650 --> 00:19:18.970 app. Not only, I mean, I can see where all those 00:19:18.970 --> 00:19:21.769 safety features can help an older adult to live 00:19:21.769 --> 00:19:24.529 more independently, but at the same time, give 00:19:24.529 --> 00:19:28.799 the caregiver that peace of mind. You mentioned 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:31.559 the list of contacts. How many contacts can be 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:35.279 on that list? Is it unlimited or is there a certain 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:43.319 number? No. So the 10 default is 10. Okay. But 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:47.400 they can change it to 50. Oh, that's a lot. Okay. 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:51.440 So you can be 10 or that's also feedback. We 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:54.140 updated that, you know, since we launched it, 00:19:54.140 --> 00:19:57.339 uh, launch the application. So what we do on 00:19:57.339 --> 00:20:01.140 the contact list, a key feature on the contact 00:20:01.140 --> 00:20:05.480 is you put in your contacts in there, but we 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:08.440 also put the relationship there. So when you 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:11.119 look at the picture of the contact or name, it's 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:14.660 okay, this is my brother, this is my friend. 00:20:14.980 --> 00:20:19.160 So that way, if they have some memory issues, 00:20:19.500 --> 00:20:21.640 when they look at the contact, it reminds them, 00:20:21.700 --> 00:20:25.890 okay, this is my sister or my brother or my friend 00:20:25.890 --> 00:20:28.849 that, you know, I want to call. So that's also 00:20:28.849 --> 00:20:34.210 included in the in the context. Okay. So if it 00:20:34.210 --> 00:20:37.549 was, let's say, as you and your sister. So both 00:20:37.549 --> 00:20:40.450 you and your sister have the app on your phone, 00:20:40.450 --> 00:20:42.549 and then your your mother would have the app 00:20:42.549 --> 00:20:47.509 on her phone. So when a medication reminder comes 00:20:47.509 --> 00:20:51.630 up, does it come up on both you and your sister's 00:20:51.630 --> 00:20:55.980 phone? Both of you get the same? No, no, the 00:20:55.980 --> 00:21:00.599 caregiving is actually one on one. Okay. So one 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:05.299 caregiver to one senior. So if the my sister, 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:09.200 for example, is primary caregiver, she will get 00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:13.099 a notification. If let's say, on the weekend, 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:16.299 I'm caring for my mother, then she would assign 00:21:16.299 --> 00:21:20.160 me now. Okay, on the weekends, I get the notification. 00:21:20.650 --> 00:21:23.450 she doesn't see the notification. She still sees, 00:21:23.450 --> 00:21:26.410 you know, she has access to the app, so she can 00:21:26.410 --> 00:21:28.769 see all that information, but she doesn't get 00:21:28.769 --> 00:21:31.410 the notification. I will get the notification. 00:21:31.750 --> 00:21:35.490 And then when on Monday, she can switch back 00:21:35.490 --> 00:21:38.869 and she will start getting notifications. Okay. 00:21:39.750 --> 00:21:43.569 We thought that actually having two people get 00:21:43.569 --> 00:21:48.390 notifications, it may get complicated. yeah and 00:21:48.390 --> 00:21:51.809 who is you know then who would be in charge you 00:21:51.809 --> 00:21:54.549 know i mean right who responds who respond right 00:21:54.549 --> 00:21:56.970 if i if i'm calling my mother and she's calling 00:21:56.970 --> 00:21:59.609 my mother is like it's too much you know it's 00:21:59.609 --> 00:22:05.970 okay who's in charge it's true it's true my um 00:22:05.970 --> 00:22:10.380 my mother -in -law lived to 102 So I can tell 00:22:10.380 --> 00:22:12.460 you that she would have been very confused if 00:22:12.460 --> 00:22:14.980 she had gotten too many phone calls. She wouldn't 00:22:14.980 --> 00:22:18.579 know who to speak to. And she would have thought 00:22:18.579 --> 00:22:21.660 probably that, did I already tell you this? You 00:22:21.660 --> 00:22:25.220 know, the other person. Right. Good point you 00:22:25.220 --> 00:22:28.660 brought up. One other capability we have in there. 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:31.259 There's a lot of small features that we put in 00:22:31.259 --> 00:22:34.819 there based on the feedback from one of our users. 00:22:36.900 --> 00:22:39.690 The senior. didn't want to see notification, 00:22:40.369 --> 00:22:43.450 you know, they will get agitated, you know, they, 00:22:43.529 --> 00:22:45.569 you know, so there are capabilities in there 00:22:45.569 --> 00:22:49.309 that actually you can turn off the notifications 00:22:49.309 --> 00:22:52.650 for the, for the senior. Okay. Only the caregiver 00:22:52.650 --> 00:22:55.329 will get notification. Okay. Also the caregiver 00:22:55.329 --> 00:22:58.650 can customize the notification. Okay. I don't 00:22:58.650 --> 00:23:01.230 want to see the meal reminders. I don't want 00:23:01.230 --> 00:23:03.930 to see medication reminders or, you know, other 00:23:03.930 --> 00:23:07.529 stuff they can, they can customize that. That 00:23:07.529 --> 00:23:11.049 makes sense, because if someone say the early 00:23:11.049 --> 00:23:14.769 stages of dementia, you don't necessarily need 00:23:14.769 --> 00:23:18.250 all those reminders. But in the mid to late stages, 00:23:18.509 --> 00:23:20.990 you may need them so you can turn them on and 00:23:20.990 --> 00:23:26.309 off, which is very smart. The caregiving training 00:23:26.309 --> 00:23:28.529 or information that you have for the caregivers, 00:23:28.910 --> 00:23:33.250 is it broken down by, you know, for Parkinson's, 00:23:33.329 --> 00:23:35.990 for head injury, for dementia? Is it broken down 00:23:35.990 --> 00:23:40.109 that way? Yes. So we have, right now I have four 00:23:40.109 --> 00:23:43.130 categories. I said, this is something that actually 00:23:43.130 --> 00:23:46.430 we're working on and we are keep adding to it 00:23:46.430 --> 00:23:49.410 every day. Oh yeah. It'll be evolving for sure. 00:23:49.710 --> 00:23:52.509 The four category in there. One is that self 00:23:52.509 --> 00:23:58.269 care. And number two is Parkinson's dementia 00:23:58.269 --> 00:24:04.960 and simpleton features. Okay. I have tons of 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:08.960 information right now since we just updated the 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:12.099 app. So I have to go back in a database and add 00:24:12.099 --> 00:24:15.940 more information to update. I'm sure you're constantly 00:24:15.940 --> 00:24:20.640 working on that. Do you see any impact on all 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:23.720 the recent AI technology that's coming out? Do 00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:26.980 you see that impacting the app in any way or 00:24:26.980 --> 00:24:30.019 how do you see the two of them integrating eventually? 00:24:30.840 --> 00:24:35.160 That's a very good question. I think the AI is 00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:40.279 going to help long term. Because let me give 00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:43.539 you some scenarios, for example, like, you know, 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:47.059 if the senior goes for a walk one day, you know, 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:48.859 for first six months and they don't get lost, 00:24:48.940 --> 00:24:51.579 they don't use the, you know, direction button. 00:24:52.500 --> 00:24:57.859 And then later on, you see them using direction 00:24:57.859 --> 00:25:01.359 button. you know, once a month, twice a month, 00:25:01.500 --> 00:25:03.740 three times a month. Some of these, some of these 00:25:03.740 --> 00:25:08.359 things, you can see a trend, you know, that, 00:25:08.460 --> 00:25:11.319 hey, you know, looks like the trend is going 00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:16.279 up. And how would that, you know, maybe you can 00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:19.000 communicate that to the, to the primary doctor. 00:25:19.500 --> 00:25:22.640 You know, now I see him, you know, you can go 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:25.410 based on the data. when you talk to the doctor, 00:25:25.769 --> 00:25:28.730 you know, I see him, you know, getting lost, 00:25:28.769 --> 00:25:30.650 you know, once a month, or I see him getting 00:25:30.650 --> 00:25:33.289 lost twice a month, or has increased, you know, 00:25:33.549 --> 00:25:37.829 or he forgets to eat his breakfast, you know, 00:25:38.170 --> 00:25:43.309 so the things I feel that AI could help us, you 00:25:43.309 --> 00:25:47.880 know, and including it in there. The other part 00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:53.259 of the AI that could help us is what you mentioned 00:25:53.259 --> 00:25:57.279 early on regarding information that we communicate 00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:02.759 to the caregiver. It would be great for the caregiver 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:08.519 to type in some questions. And we have a backend 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:12.019 AI that can go search for it. We may not have 00:26:12.019 --> 00:26:15.740 it in the database, But the back end can go search 00:26:15.740 --> 00:26:19.960 for the information and present it to the caregiver. 00:26:21.059 --> 00:26:24.700 Those are the other areas that AI could be very 00:26:24.700 --> 00:26:27.740 useful for us. It will be very interesting to 00:26:27.740 --> 00:26:29.880 see. I mean, I can't imagine what the world is 00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:33.740 going to look like five years from now with the 00:26:33.740 --> 00:26:40.480 impact of AI. I'm honestly just very blown away 00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:45.140 by this app. I mean, I'm definitely going to 00:26:45.140 --> 00:26:51.140 be writing a few articles on it. You have a video 00:26:51.140 --> 00:26:57.660 showing the process of the apps on YouTube or 00:26:57.660 --> 00:27:00.039 on the website itself, because I don't think 00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:04.980 I saw one. You mentioned how the app operates. 00:27:05.259 --> 00:27:09.900 Yeah, like the look of it. Yeah. Yes. So I have 00:27:09.900 --> 00:27:13.480 a YouTube channel. Yes. that I can send it to 00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:20.359 you. Yes, we have many YouTube videos there. 00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:24.000 Part of it is, you know, you know, what features 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:27.039 are in there and how it works. And then we also 00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:31.119 have how to videos, okay, how to set it up, how 00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:34.220 to set up the, you know, caregiver, you know, 00:27:34.420 --> 00:27:37.259 the temporary caregiver feature, how to set up 00:27:37.529 --> 00:27:40.569 how to block the apps in your smartphone. So 00:27:40.569 --> 00:27:42.470 we have a lot of how -to information in there. 00:27:42.809 --> 00:27:45.769 We have how the app works and the features of 00:27:45.769 --> 00:27:49.289 that. Okay. I may integrate some of that in the 00:27:49.289 --> 00:27:56.230 YouTube video with this interview. Do you foresee 00:27:56.230 --> 00:28:02.170 any collaborations with, I don't know, home health 00:28:02.170 --> 00:28:05.690 agencies or other companies to use this app? 00:28:06.220 --> 00:28:08.720 For them to use it or is it strictly you want 00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:13.119 to keep it as caregiver and us and senior I'm 00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:16.440 open, you know to have that, you know, obviously 00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:21.180 conversation and I think some aspects of it it 00:28:21.180 --> 00:28:28.940 could be very useful if the agency and You know 00:28:28.940 --> 00:28:32.299 Even we can customize it for the certain agencies 00:28:32.299 --> 00:28:36.039 with the our database backend database. So specific 00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:39.160 information for their users, something like that. 00:28:39.220 --> 00:28:44.519 So it could be beneficial to do that. So I'm 00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:49.410 open for that conversation. I can certainly see 00:28:49.410 --> 00:28:54.089 it as a product, as someone who goes in to assess 00:28:54.089 --> 00:28:58.009 someone's home for aging in place. Just like 00:28:58.009 --> 00:29:00.509 they're recommending anything, a shower chair, 00:29:00.849 --> 00:29:02.950 widening doorways, whatever they're recommending, 00:29:03.509 --> 00:29:06.460 I can see them recommending this as a tool. you 00:29:06.460 --> 00:29:08.700 know, one of the things that I like to recommend 00:29:08.700 --> 00:29:13.099 are, you know, the smart home devices, the thermostat, 00:29:13.380 --> 00:29:16.160 the video cameras, you know, and the doorbell, 00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:19.380 anything like that. But I can see this being 00:29:19.380 --> 00:29:23.259 part of that tool chest of products to recommend, 00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.619 especially since it is so affordable and I mean, 00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:29.799 my personal feeling is, you know, there's there's 00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:32.559 two blocks to aging in place for a lot of seniors 00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:35.319 is one is emotional. You know, it's difficult 00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:37.720 to admit you're getting older and that you need 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:39.700 certain things and you don't want to make changes 00:29:39.700 --> 00:29:42.339 to your home. And then two is just simply the 00:29:42.339 --> 00:29:46.799 cost of making these changes to your home. So 00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:50.059 having anything that you can use that is affordable 00:29:50.059 --> 00:29:54.259 and so extremely useful as this is, I think it's. 00:29:54.220 --> 00:29:56.720 I think it's a no -brainer to have. I think you're 00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:58.759 going to be very successful with this product. 00:29:59.740 --> 00:30:02.519 But the scenario that you mentioned regarding 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:06.900 recommendation, that's already working with a 00:30:06.900 --> 00:30:12.079 few people. Good. They can add our application 00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:15.339 on their website or in their list to recommend 00:30:15.339 --> 00:30:18.380 to people. Yes, that's already been done. Exactly. 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:22.049 Good. Very good. Well, is there anything else 00:30:22.049 --> 00:30:24.210 that you wanted to tell us about this wonderful 00:30:24.210 --> 00:30:27.930 product? And I can't wait to write an article 00:30:27.930 --> 00:30:38.049 about it. What else? Oh, regarding just the senior 00:30:38.049 --> 00:30:43.630 care, one thing I wanted to add was that, so 00:30:43.630 --> 00:30:46.750 we have medication management, we have activity. 00:30:47.660 --> 00:30:50.940 management in there. Yes, we have that. They 00:30:50.940 --> 00:30:53.160 also can put their doctor's appointments, you 00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:57.380 know, in there. We have meal reminder. So all 00:30:57.380 --> 00:31:03.240 those information resides on senior app. you 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.160 know, the caregiver has remote access to it, 00:31:06.420 --> 00:31:08.099 because of remote care, they have remote access, 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:11.339 they can update the medication, they can add 00:31:11.339 --> 00:31:13.680 a medication or change the time, they have access 00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:17.460 to all that remotely. And what it is will be 00:31:17.460 --> 00:31:20.039 put on the senior app, because again, goes back 00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:23.640 to senior independence. So that way, when senior 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.920 is home alone, they still follow the structured 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.259 routine. They take the medication, on time, they 00:31:30.259 --> 00:31:34.480 get a notification, they go to their activities, 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:39.079 they see. So if they are independent, they can 00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:43.019 follow their own routines and schedule that apps 00:31:43.019 --> 00:31:49.019 tells them. But if they need help, then the caregiver 00:31:49.019 --> 00:31:53.740 reminds them. So I just want to add that. Excellent. 00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:57.579 Well, Said, I want to thank you so much. Thank 00:31:57.579 --> 00:32:02.339 you so much for your time. I do appreciate it. 00:32:03.019 --> 00:32:06.000 I can't wait to get this out and get feedback 00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:12.319 on the interview and the article itself. Thank 00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.740 you. Thank you very much. I enjoyed our discussion. 00:32:15.900 --> 00:32:18.220 Thank you very much. Thank you. Stay on. Stay 00:32:18.220 --> 00:54:15.860 on. I do want to ask you, since, you know, I'm 00:54:15.860 --> 00:54:20.800 67 years old, so my group of friends are seniors 00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:24.380 and they're all retired and traveling and doing 00:54:24.380 --> 00:54:30.539 whatever. How would this work for the senior 00:54:30.539 --> 00:54:37.480 who's traveling? Well, I mean, it would work 00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.409 for the location. Like to let the caregiver know 00:54:40.409 --> 00:54:44.829 where they are. Yeah. All the medication schedules 00:54:44.829 --> 00:54:50.230 and stuff, it would work still. Yeah. And the 00:54:50.230 --> 00:54:54.630 other thing, let's say caregiver, I mean, let's 00:54:54.630 --> 00:54:59.170 say senior goes, I mean, New Jersey, it goes 00:54:59.170 --> 00:55:03.789 to, let's say, Maryland to see their friend, 00:55:04.510 --> 00:55:08.039 you know. the caregiver can change the address, 00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:12.840 the home address to the Maryland where they are 00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:16.699 there. So now they can, if they go for a walk, 00:55:16.739 --> 00:55:18.840 they know the location there. If they go for 00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:21.579 a walk, they get the same notification. They 00:55:21.579 --> 00:55:24.079 get lost. They get the same notification or geofence 00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:27.559 would work a mile or half a mile around that 00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:30.179 location. And then when they come back home, 00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:34.719 the caregiver can change the location. to their 00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:38.579 home address, and that would update it. But everything 00:55:38.579 --> 00:55:42.519 would work normally, as long as you are in United 00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:46.219 States or Canada. So our apps are available in 00:55:46.219 --> 00:55:49.699 US and Canada. OK. All right. I think that'll 00:55:49.699 --> 00:55:52.179 be good. And I didn't want to ask you in the 00:55:52.179 --> 00:55:55.960 interview, but does this work? Because I know 00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:58.320 there are some apps that will work on the phone 00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:02.380 and on a smartwatch. Does this work on a smartwatch 00:56:02.380 --> 00:56:08.199 as well? So the notification, if you set it up, 00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:10.659 it will show up on the smartwatch. That's the 00:56:10.659 --> 00:56:12.739 function of the smartwatch. Because when you 00:56:12.739 --> 00:56:14.659 go in the smartwatch, you say, okay, which notification 00:56:14.659 --> 00:56:18.599 I want to see on my watch. You can select this 00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:22.000 app and the notification will show up there. 00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:28.579 One other thing I forgot to mention was that 00:56:28.579 --> 00:56:32.619 there are two applications, one for senior, one 00:56:32.619 --> 00:56:36.000 for caregiver. and they're cross -platform compatible. 00:56:36.579 --> 00:56:39.440 What that means is that if the senior has an 00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:42.039 Apple phone and the caregiver has an Android, 00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:46.219 they still would work or vice versa. That's good. 00:56:46.300 --> 00:56:49.960 I'm going to include that. That's a very good 00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:52.619 point. I didn't even think about that. Very good 00:56:52.619 --> 00:56:56.579 point. Yes. Because that was complicated to make 00:56:56.579 --> 00:56:59.440 sure that the apps are still communicating with 00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:00.980 each other, they still work. It doesn't matter 00:57:00.980 --> 00:57:03.900 what platform you have. You must have come across 00:57:03.900 --> 00:57:06.639 a lot of challenges putting this together, technically, 00:57:06.860 --> 00:57:13.760 I mean. Yes. I mean, we started off, because 00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:15.659 most of the applications you see in the market, 00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.900 for example, you see application, gaming application, 00:57:19.699 --> 00:57:25.800 or even flight. United Airlines has an app. Those 00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:29.119 are actually designed with one app that works 00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:36.099 both on Android and Apple. because they write 00:57:36.099 --> 00:57:39.820 it at the higher level. Because of the complexity 00:57:39.820 --> 00:57:43.380 of these applications, we actually had to write 00:57:43.380 --> 00:57:49.099 four applications. Two for Android, two for Apple 00:57:49.099 --> 00:57:52.000 phone. So one senior, one caregiver for Apple, 00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:57.039 and one senior, one caregiver for Android. All 00:57:57.039 --> 00:58:00.179 four had to be working together. Oh, my goodness. 00:58:02.139 --> 00:58:04.619 Oh, I can't even imagine. There must have been 00:58:04.619 --> 00:58:06.900 a lot of sleepless nights. That's all I can think 00:58:06.900 --> 00:58:12.980 of. Yeah, it took us a year to come up to actually 00:58:12.980 --> 00:58:18.119 design the app and launch it. Wow. How do you 00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:21.360 see the app changing in the next year or two 00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:25.880 or five? How many changes? How do you see it 00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:28.949 changing? How do you see it evolving? So I mean, 00:58:29.190 --> 00:58:34.250 one feature that I've been, you know, we've been 00:58:34.250 --> 00:58:37.110 talking about including was like a video call. 00:58:38.429 --> 00:58:43.190 Okay, I think that's important. You know, for 00:58:43.190 --> 00:58:45.809 the caregiver, you know, have a video call to 00:58:45.809 --> 00:58:49.269 the app with the senior. The challenge that we 00:58:49.269 --> 00:58:51.389 had initially that we didn't include did not 00:58:51.389 --> 00:58:54.670 include it was because when you use the video 00:58:54.670 --> 00:58:58.179 call, then you're using data. And people have 00:58:58.179 --> 00:59:02.380 to, you know, make sure that they have good Wi 00:59:02.380 --> 00:59:06.760 -Fi or they have 5G or 4G. So that one complexity. 00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:11.159 The other one was, you know, the data call cost 00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:14.820 is different, you know. So you want to make sure 00:59:14.820 --> 00:59:17.559 that I didn't want nickel and dime to senior 00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:20.000 that, OK, you can only have a video call for 00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:23.059 30 minutes or you can only have it for an hour. 00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:26.079 We want to make it unlimited. So you have a video 00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:29.760 call. you can be on the call for an hour, don't 00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:32.099 worry about it. So that's what we talk about, 00:59:32.099 --> 00:59:36.679 simple, right? So simple for the user. So I think 00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:41.119 we have figured it out how to do it. So in the 00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:45.460 next six months to nine months, we may add that 00:59:45.460 --> 00:59:48.280 to the app. And the other thing you mentioned 00:59:48.280 --> 00:59:51.940 about the AI, I think, I think that's, to be 00:59:51.940 --> 00:59:53.800 honest with you, that's a big phase, the next 00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:58.599 phase that we could add it, you know, next year 00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:02.019 or so. Thank you for tuning in to this episode 01:00:02.019 --> 01:00:04.980 of the Aging in Place Directory podcast. 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