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That proscenium arch,

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came from a film

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called Saltburn that I was in.

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Nick is not going to be able

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to leave my house.

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I'm keeping him here.

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Tell us a showbiz story

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that’s what I’d love to hear.

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Oh, errrrr. I'll DJ for you.

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How about we do that?

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This is on record.

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Okay. Yes, please.

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Hi, and welcome to roots.

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I'm Joe Wiley,

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and this is where we meet our great

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RHS Gardening Heroes.

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We talk about what

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their gardens mean to them,

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why they love it so much,

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the plants they love

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and the plants they hate.

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Today I'm in Richmond.

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I’m in this stunning garden

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and very excited

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to meet one of the UK's greatest

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and most loved actors, Richard E Grant.

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Let's go meet him.

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Oh my gosh, what a garden.

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What a garden, What a man. Hello.

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How are you? I'm very good. Thank you.

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I don't think I've ever been in a garden

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that has so many stories

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and is such a place of interest before.

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What a wonderful, wonderful place

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you've created.

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Oh thank you.

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It's stuffed with props.

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And every job

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that I go on, every film

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I'm on, I go to the production department

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and try and buy

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or bribe

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my way to get props or pieces of stuff.

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So your life and your work

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is here with you at all times, isn't it?

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Your surrounded by it. Exactly. Yep.

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I'm particularly

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loving the balls behind us.

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Tell us the story

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while we're here in this position

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of where these balls came from.

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Your baubles.

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They were in, a shop window

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display of a well-known

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perfumery brand in England.

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And after Christmas,

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I said, what's happening to all of these?

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And they said,

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oh, we think we're getting rid of them.

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I said, could I buy them all?

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And they said, no, we'd be grateful

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if you could take them off us.

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So I got all of them.

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Wow.

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And I like Christmas, as you can see.

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So these Christmas lights are on

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every day, all year, day and night.

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Beautiful and how did they get there?

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Oh, I have no fear of heights.

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So just got a ladder.

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You did it yourself.

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Yeah. Oh, wow.

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And that kind of ties

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in that it's a perfumery

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because you love your scent.

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You've got your own scents.

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Tell us a little bit about that.

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Is it Jack?

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Yeah. It's called Jack.

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When I was 12 and I was,

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I was living in Swaziland,

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where I grew up,

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which is now called Eswatini.

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I try to make perfume out of gardenia

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and rose petals boiled up in sugar water.

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For an American girl

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that I was absolutely madly in love

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with called Betty Clapp

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with a double pea.

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And yeah, it just turned into six

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stink bombs.

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And then, you know,

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45 years later, Anya Hindmarch,

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was a fellow houseguest

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on holiday in the Caribbean.

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She saw me smelling

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and touching everything, and she said,

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you should do something about this.

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And I said, what? Psychiatrically?

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And she said, no, no, no, no,

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you should make your own perfume.

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So I then spent six months trying to

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trying to do this.

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How did you do it? What did you do?

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Well,

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I got all the ingredients that I wanted

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because I love cooking.

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So it's the same process that I took.

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Lime, mandarin and marijuana

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and put them put these oils

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into a combination mixture.

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And then I got in contact with a

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professional French nose

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in Paris called Aliénor Massenet.

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And together we worked for six months

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backwards and forwards

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until the scent was exactly

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as I had imagined it in my head.

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And then launched it at Liberty.

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And it won awards and,

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you know, became a bestseller.

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So that's that's how it's started.

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How wonderful. Yeah, yeah.

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So you've always been drawn to scent.

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So this garden,

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I presume, is a garden of scent.

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Oh, I wish it's evergreen

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for the most part.

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So, only roses

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are the only thing that are scented

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and honeysuckle that’s it.

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Is there no gardenia in here?

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It's too cold.

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I've got them indoors.

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Yeah, yeah,

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but it's dictated by the environment

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where you are,

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what you've been able

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to do in the garden.

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I think gardenia is the most.

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It's the holy grail of scent for me,

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because it's the one white flower that's

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so far

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has defied all industrial extraction.

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So the fact that every gardenia is on

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the market is an invented one,

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rather than the real thing.

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Makes it even more,

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holy grail like for me.

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So I think it's the most erotic smell

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on the planet.

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My friend, I was talking to my producer.

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My radio producer was saying

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that she was walking

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through Selfridges once,

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and you were there

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and you were spraying people

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with your scent

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that you were actually hands on.

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Like, would you like to try this?

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Would you like to try this?

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And you were spraying people,

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so I was the passion is deep

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and you were selling your product.

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Obviously I know they give you a week

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to go and launch your product.

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So I did that about eight years ago.

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Yeah. How wonderful.

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Are you developing any more scent?

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Where

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where are you at with

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I am I've got well I've done Jack,

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the original one with the

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lime, marijuana and mandarin.

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And then I did Jack Covent Garden,

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Jack Piccadilly, 69,

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and then Jack Richmond.

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So they're all

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in London with stories

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that are related to my life.

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Yeah, just remind us

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why they called Jack.

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Well, tell us why they call Jack.

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Oh, because I didn't want them to be,

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I wanted the packaging to be

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pillarbox red

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and that it would be something

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quintessentially British,

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rather than trying to pretend

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that you're French and, Right.

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All that,

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I find it very embarrassing when you read

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the notes on perfumes.

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When they say,

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well, there was a swish of a tiger's tail

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when I was walking

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with my aunt in the Himalayas.

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And this reminded me of,

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I find all that very embarrassing.

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So, when somebody saw the,

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at Liberty said the the pillarbox red

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and it comes in a

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Union Jack calico bag inside.

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They said, why don't you call it Jack?

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So I thought, well,

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I know

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I found out how many,

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because it’s unisex, whether there were

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how many women are called Jack?

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And I found there a fair number.

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So that's that's.

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So no pretension. Just.

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Just a beautiful scent. Yeah. Okay.

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Can we have a wander around,

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closing the rest of your garden?

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Because there must be so many stories,

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and I would love to

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find out so much more.

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There's something of that as catch my eye

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over there that's catching my eye.

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So should we wander this way?

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Okay, okay.

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Hang on.

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Richard, tell me, where are we now?

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What are we going under?

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We've got candelabras above our heads.

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Yeah, these these prop columns came from

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a film,

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called persuasion

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that I was in with Dakota Johnson.

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So at the end of those,

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I snaffled them off and said,

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could I have them?

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So that's why they're here.

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That's why they're there.

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And behind us

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just took us through

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what we have behind us.

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I can see Barbara, Barbara Streisand.

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Yes.

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The so the that proscenium arch,

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came from a film

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called Saltburn that I was in that film,

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that little film,

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that one that shocked some people.

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And at the end of it,

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there was a big

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outdoor party scene for Barry Keoghan's

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character's birthday.

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And I said,

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could I possibly buy that afterwards?

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And they said, no,

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it's all going to be scrapped and dumped

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because storage cost too much.

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So I said, could I have it in the garden?

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So they did.

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And I had already commissioned

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a, two foot

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tall sculpture of Barbara

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Streisand's head.

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So it's now

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given a proscenium arch for her,

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and she has she seen the pictures of it.

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Tell me, tell me about the conversation.

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So how did you that

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you've obviously told her.

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Oh, I've been a lifelong obsessive,

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a Streisand fanatic.

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And you're supposed

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to grow out of this phase,

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you know, when you reach adolescence,

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which, clearly I'm still stuck at.

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And,

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so I then I was a Donna Karan’s house

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in the East Hamptons,

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six years ago, and I set a

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I had a 1 to 1 conversation

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this close to Barbra Streisand.

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And I said at the end of it,

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I have something to confess,

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and she said, what's that?

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I said, I've commissioned a two foot

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tall sculpture of your head

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favoring your left profile,

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which is what she likes to be shot from.

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For my garden.

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And she said, you're crazy.

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And I said, yes,

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I know that, you know that.

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And she said, no, you are really crazy.

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I don't know anybody else

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that has commissioned a statue like that.

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So she's seen it.

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Not in person yet.

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I live in hope.

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So that's why it's here.

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And my late wife, you know, I said.

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I said when we got married,

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you are going to have to live

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like somebody else famously

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said, there are three people

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in this marriage.

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And,

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she said, that's absolutely fine

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because she was

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she was also a fan,

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not my level of obsession,

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of Streisand as well.

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But it was you, Joan and Barbara,

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the threesome. Yeah.

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What was Barbara's reaction

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when she saw this?

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I know

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not in the flesh,

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but when you showed her the picture.

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What did she say?

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She thought that it was a very accurate,

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representation of her profile.

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Oh, my gosh.

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So this. You're crazy.

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Your absolutely crazy. Yeah.

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She's a massive gardener

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herself, isn't she?

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She's obsessed with roses,

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having interviewed.

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I interviewed her and she.

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Yeah, she was just talking about roses.

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What they meant to her.

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A lot for a long time.

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But what about you and gardening is this.

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Do you have a gardener? Is...

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No, I do it. Your the gardener? Yeah.

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So I love mowing the lawn.

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Once a week, and,

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I've.

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I planted

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because when I,

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where I grew up in Swaziland,

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the season changes weren't as dramatic

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as they are in, in England, so I wanted

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not something be all dead in the winter.

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So I planted as much evergreen

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as possible.

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So yew and box as you can see. Yeah.

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Because the things that I have. Yeah.

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And this

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garden must have so many happy memories.

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I mean, for you and Joan.

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You spent a lot of time in this garden.

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Yeah. We did.

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She was

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she was absolutely love

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gardening as well as I did.

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And up until I suppose the age of 30,

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I never really thought about gardens

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because I grew up with a beautiful garden

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where I was born.

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But I never thought of making

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a garden myself.

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So, I thought,

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well, what are the evergreen plants?

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So I went to the encyclopedia,

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RHS thing.

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And then found that box

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Yew and

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Ivy were

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the things

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that would look good all year round.

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So what was it like when you came here?

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So there was.

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Was it just a blank canvas?

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This this acacia tree, was still alive

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at that point

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and had died

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and looks like something

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out of Sleepy Hollow.

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So I planted ivy all the way around it

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rather than taking taking it down.

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You can hang baubles from it.

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So.

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And all the trees on that side

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I got from a nursery in Surrey

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and had them trucked in

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because there was nothing. Yeah. So.

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Well.

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And are you quite hands on with digging

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and putting the trees in

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or do everything.

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Yeah. Literally do everything yourself.

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Okay.

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And, and the rest of the...

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I mean I have to have help to do this.

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You don't have help.

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Is it helpful for you mentally?

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Is is it

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something that you physically

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really enjoy doing?

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I think I think going in the garden

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every day and doing something

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because you, you're it's

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constant maintenance,

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as you know, from having a garden,

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and I spent an absolute fortune on

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box plants

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and replacing them because

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of the dreaded box

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moth caterpillar that came in

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to the country about ten years ago.

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So we're going to get you some advice

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about that.

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We have an expert, so we’ll

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get you some advice about that. Yeah.

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Thank you.

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And in terms of I mean, I imagine

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obviously you love a party.

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So you must have amazing parties here.

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Yeah.

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We have a Halloween party here every.

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Yeah, every October for about 120 people.

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So, that pergola outside

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is really good for

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dancing and feeding people.

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Yeah. Tell me about the pergola.

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Where did that come from?

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I.

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Basically bribed four carpenters

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to come from Gloucestershire.

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And I said I'd cook for them

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and, you know, put them up

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if they could do that

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in four days for a Halloween party

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four years ago.

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And so since the last minute idea of,

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like I said, I want a pergola.

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They did. Yeah.

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And now it's a great place to sit

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because there's a fire inside

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and you can sit there most of the year

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and keep warm Yeah.

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Quite often that's the problem isn't it.

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You've got a garden

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but you want to entertain.

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But a climate is not amazing for that.

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So so that's an extension of the house

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and it's a part of the social hub. Yeah.

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And it's more

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because I'm a hoarder collector.

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I could

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put more and more stuff in there.

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And who have you had around that fire?

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Who what kind of is that?

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Tell us a showbiz story.

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That's what I'd love to hear.

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Oh, who've you entertained here?

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Melissa McCarthy, Meryl Streep.

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Paul Rudd.

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Meera syal.

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Steve Martin, Martin Shaw

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Catherine O'Hara, the late. Great.

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Oh, lots of people.

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Yeah. And it's.

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I've been around so long, you know, I've.

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People I've worked with,

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you know, come round.

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And what happened.

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So do you drink?

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Do you play games? Do you do?

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Well allergic to alochol..

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So they drink? Yeah.

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They drink.

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And I love cooking

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and barbecuing as well.

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So, Yeah, I like entertaining.

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Yeah.

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So good conversation

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into the how late into the night.

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What's, what's the latest

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you've been in this garden entertaining,

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talking to people?

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5 a.m. and dancing.

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And because there's

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a graveyard over the wall, you can.

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You can play music pretty loudly here.

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And the kitchen, the.

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So, yeah, there'd be no complaints.

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So loudspeakers out there.

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What kind of music? But who do you like?

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I mean, I'm a music person,

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so I'd love to know, everything from,

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I suppose, Motown.

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Onwards to now. Yeah, yeah.

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And our daughter got married

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here in the garden a year ago, so

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we had a brilliant DJ

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who played everything from

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all the stuff that you, you know about.

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I'm not going to. Yeah.

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Embarrass myself by naming names..

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It feels like a very happy garden.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, really?

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Like, it's

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seen a lot of living in this garden.

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Hugely.

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And when when you lost Joan, was it

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a place of solace for you as well?

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Was it did it help? It was.

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And she said to me, you know, please.

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Bury my ashes under a cherry tree.

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And I, I said, yes, I would do that,

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but I've,

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I've not brought myself to do that yet

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because, you know, rationally,

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I understand that that's what she wanted.

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But emotionally,

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I sort of feel that even this

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just box of ashes

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that I've got

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is the last thing

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that I physically have of her.

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So I haven't buried them because I will.

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If I leave this house,

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then I can't take the ashes with me

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and you have to have her with you.

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Yeah,. At all times.

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Where is she now?

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In a box inside the house.

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Yeah.

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I don't blame you.

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I don't blame you. Yeah, we lost our.

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This is not comparable to you

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losing Joan at all.

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But we lost our dogs.

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And we had a tree planted last year,

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and it was really lovely

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to have them beneath that tree

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and to know that they're feeding

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that tree.

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I completely understand that.

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If you were to leave,

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then you can't leave her behind.

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I sort of feel like I.

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Yeah, yeah, it's just stupid.

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I know it doesn't.

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It doesn't really make sense now.

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And you've got new life

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coming here as well.

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Yeah.

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This garden is going to

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turn into the next chapter.

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Yeah.

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Our daughter's

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having a baby in June, so.

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And because she and her husband

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chose to come live here

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a couple of years ago,

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we are now living this kind of life.

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So I'm a concierge.

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Basically, do the garden, cook, shop.

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Which I love.

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Yeah, of course,

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but it's gone from being silent.

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You were saying earlier on that

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it was just your own footsteps

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that you were here

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the first year of,

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you know, being widower. You.

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Because it's a big house.

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It, I was very conscious

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of only hearing my own footsteps

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in the house.

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And then, you know,

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a couple of years later.

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Olivia said, well,

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we're all stuck together in Covid

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and doing the last nine

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months of Joan's life.

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Could we come and live with you?

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And I said, well, let's

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just try for a year

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and see how that goes.

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So they've brought their cat

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and now they're having a baby.

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So we live communally.

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Yeah.

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Just loads of footsteps

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and you can have little ones

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running up and down this garden.

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It's just it's yeah.

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You're going to have I mean will

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you have like a slide and a trampoline.

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Can you actually can you do that.

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Everything okay.

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You'll embrace that stage as well.

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What else? Are there any other props?

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There's I can see in front of me now.

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There's a

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what is that, a little shed it says.

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Yeah. Oilly cottage.

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Yeah it says only cottage. Yeah.

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Because her daughter's

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officially called Olivia,

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but because,

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before she was born,

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we knew we're having a daughter.

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And my wife said, you know,

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with your long face and your long torso,

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what do you think

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our child is going to look like?

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And I said, olive oil.

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So we sort of called her oilly

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and it stucked.

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So that shed is called Oilly cottage.

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She used to play in there, I presume.

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She used to play in there

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and there’s a little vegetable garden

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in front of it.

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It's not a fountain.

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And, so it's it's now a tool shed.

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Are there any other props in here

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that you

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that you've stolen from sets

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and films that you've done before?

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Not stolen!

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No. Sorry. That you bought.

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I have bough,

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and they gave to you at great expense.

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Oh, there are two plinths

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either side of the front door

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from Gladiator.

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I was, I was working at, Shepperton,

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and I saw these plinths on a skip.

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And I went to the manager

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and I said, if I hire a van, could I?

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And he said, well, he's no longer there.

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Yeah. So he can't get fired.

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So, yeah,

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they came from Gladiator,

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which sadly I wasn't in,

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but I have the two gladiator

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plinth outside my house..

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And then what's your

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favorite part of the garden?

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Where do you what do you enjoy being?

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I like sitting in that pergola

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because there's a fire in there.

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And you can.

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You're outdoors, but

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you're indoors at the same time.

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Yeah.

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And the back of the house

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is that wisteri that you have there?

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Yeah, yeah.

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What color is it? Purple.

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Oh how amazing. And the flowers?

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Twice a year. And the scent is absolute.

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It's it's gone

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right across the entire

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front of the border of the garden.

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So it smells amazing.

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So sorry there's nothing to see now

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or smell.

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No, but the scent is there

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and that's very important to you.

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Rifght,

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do you want some advice about your box?

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Yes, please.

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Okay fine.

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For some reason that sounds rude,

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but I'm going to get some advice

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for you, right.

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We're going to go in this direction.

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Nick is waiting. Okay?

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Okay.

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Richard, I would like

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you to meet our expert,

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our RHS garden expert.

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Hi Richard, this is Nick.

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Thank you. Nick.

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He knows a thing or two about box

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and he's about to help you.

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What's your problem?

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Those box caterpillar stuff.

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But you know what I love about box?

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It smells like fresh armpits.

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Yeah, I know you said I've never tried.

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I'm gonna have a little go

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because you just to the fresh armpit.

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Yeah, right.

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But actually, it's

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really quite nice, isn't it?

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I've never actually tried that before.

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Love that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I love that with me on that one. Yeah.

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So. Yeah. What's what's the problem.

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What's happened to your box.

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Do you get box blight

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or is it the box tree caterpillar.

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It's the box tree

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caterpillar that came from Southeast

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Asia about ten years ago at least.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It just it's just completely decimates

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everything. Yellow caterpillars.

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Green, beautiful

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looking, lovely caterpillars.

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But a lot of, a lot of them. Yeah.

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And they can decimate things.

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So what do I do?

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Well,

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the only thing you really can

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do, it's a bit

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like you have to approach them

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a bit like slugs.

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So there's

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no point trying to spray anything.

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Nature is only just starting

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to get used to them

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because they've only been

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in the country ten, 15 years.

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So at first

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nobody really knew what to do.

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Like the birds and what's this?

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But now

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starlings, magpies,

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blue tits are starting to think, oh,

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which is good

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because they might start eating them.

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I mean, it's sort of anecdotal.

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We haven't done the research, but

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from what we're hearing,

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yeah, a lot of people have seen them

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and wasps will eat them as well,

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which is great.

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But otherwise.

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So there is a point to wasps .

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Indeed. Indeed. I

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know, I know, isn't it

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great when you see one fly

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and you take one of those off?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But otherwise it's really just a case

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of getting out there

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like you do with the slugs.

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Yeah.

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Picking them off

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I mean they don't you know, they're not

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they're not fast.

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Well, maybe someone should,

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you know, develop a recipe that. Yeah.

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Because there's always plenty

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I gladly do them and you do it.

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And the problem is

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that they'll

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have more than one generation

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in one season.

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So, like, they'll start off

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in sort of March, April time.

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And you see them all,

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you know, eating away

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and you think right, okay.

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Out there taking them off.

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But then in a few months time

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they can have

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another generation of caterpillars.

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So it's a tricky one.

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But there are lots of box

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alternative plants now.

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So there's a Euonymus.

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I mean there's a few, at Wisley,

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we've got a whole

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garden just dedicated to box alternatives

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because it's such a big problem.

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So many people have had problems.

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Yeah.

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So, so there are loads of,

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you know, clipped.

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It’s quite a formal look.

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So you've got low

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hedges and shapes and all sorts,

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but none of it is box.

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It’s Euonymus,

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so there's okay

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so there's Euonymus

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japonicus ‘Green Spire’.

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Okay.

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That looks I think the closest to box.

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And you can topiary it?

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Yep you can clip it.

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You've actually got some in this garden.

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I've just seen it.

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Really.

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You've got some in this garden okay.

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And it looks exactly like box.

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But that's I think

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trying to go,

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trying to outwit it basically.

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So either you get out there,

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pick the caterpillars off

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or you just think, right okay.

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Clearly it's going to love box.

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So let's go with something else.

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And you do the topiary yourself.

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So you're out there

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doing the thing myself.

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No I don't I don't do that.

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I've got a little stihl thing. Yeah.

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They're nice. Yeah, yeah.

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Hedge trimmers. Yeah.

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They're good.

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Yeah, yeah I think one day to do it.

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Yeah yeah yeah.

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And it's quite a satisfying job.

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It's incrediblle.

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It's like getting your whole garden

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a haircut.

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Yeah it is. Yeah.

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Yeah I love that.

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And I love the bit

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you've got over there

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where you've kind of created clouds.

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That creates movement.

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I think that looks really nice

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rather than just straight formal.

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You can, you can come again.

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Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.

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Has that helped?

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Yes it has. Good. Thank you Nick.

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So unfortunately it's just vigilance.

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Yes. Okay. And when it comes too..

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Nick is not going to leave my house.

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I’m keeping him here.

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Blight. Tell us about box blight.

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So box bliight is completely different

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because that's a disease okay.

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So that means that

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if the conditions are right, i.e.

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warm and humid,

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then there's a chance

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you'll get box blight.

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Okay.

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It's not as bad as I mean.

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So this area,

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this garden is quite enclosed.

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You know, you've got lots of other.

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So it prevents air flow coming through.

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So if you've got warm, humid conditions,

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you've got spores in the air,

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they land on the leaves.

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It's like a little petri dish

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that's going to start to grow.

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But if you've got the ventilation

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drying those leaves,

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then box blight is less likely

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to actually start coming to fruition.

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But do you ever have box blight?

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Is it just the caterpillar. Yeah.

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So that's good.

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So that means that

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and then you've got good circulation.

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There's plenty of ventilation. Yeah.

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So it's not as bad.

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It's the caterpillar really.

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That's the one that gets everybody.

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Euonymus....

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Euonymus, Green Spire,

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Yeah I find

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I find that works very nicely.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Nick, thank you for the very welcome.

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You're welcome.

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Yes. So grateful, thank you..

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Shall we go and see your euonymus? Yes.

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I am so ready for

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this warmth to come into the pergola.

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Oh,

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this is such an amazing space.

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The view, the way everything's framed.

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And I was saying that the color.

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There's threads of red and yellow

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and then the green.

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The contrast

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to just the such artistry to this garden.

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Thank you.

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You can come anytime you want.

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Well, I would love

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I would love to come back again

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another time and be here

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at four in the morning

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chatting with you and being entertained.

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I'll deejay for you.

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How about we do that?

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This is on record.

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Okay? Yes, please.

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Fine. It's a date. Okay. Where?

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Where do you get your inspiration from?

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Do you go to garden centres.

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Do you go to open gardens?

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Kempton Antiques

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Market in Sunbury Racecourse,

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which just down the road from me,

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20 minutes away, twice a month.

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Ardingly.

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Chelsea Flower

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show every year I've been going

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forty years. Yeah, yeah.

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You think you've seen me?

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I've seen, you know, I hijacked you.

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I'm so embarrassed I jumped on you.

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One point.

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I'm sorry.

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Please, can I have a photograph?

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You had no idea who I was.

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I'm sorry about that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You're harpooning for a compliment.

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Of course I know.

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I followed your entire career.

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So Hampton Court Palace, that one.

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Amazing.

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And there's a new one coming this year

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at, badminton, of course.

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The first.

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First, you know, the have

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the horse trials there for years

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and their now having a flower show.

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And what do you know about it?

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Do you know anything about the show

00:23:44.760 --> 00:23:45.520
that's going to be happening?

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I know the RHS are

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really keen

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to get out

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and about to have new shows

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in different areas,

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just because they want

00:23:50.360 --> 00:23:51.320
to encourage people

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to get into gardening, badminton,

00:23:53.280 --> 00:23:54.840
it's such an extraordinary estate.

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And I think that,

00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:58.640
and the gardens are incredible.

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And they've got,

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they've got around it looks like a pond

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in front of an orangery,

00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:06.000
but it's a swimming pool as well.

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You can swim all year

00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:07.920
because it’s heated.

00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:09.560
So it's, it's a magical place.

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And they've got,

00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:12.720
clouds,

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cloud shaped box

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plants surrounding all of it.

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So it's an area, you know, really well.

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Yeah. It's going to be special. Yeah.

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So you'll be there, I can't wait. Yes.

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And when it comes to.

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Say you going to Desert Island

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and it's just going to be you,

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you can take three plants with you. Yes.

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Whether they'll grow

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or not on a desert island,

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I really don't know.

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But what would you take with you?

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What are your favorites?

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Gardenia, of course.

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Peony and tulips.

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Beautiful.

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Any particular favorite tulips?

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Parrot tulips. I love parrot tulips.

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Do you have them in your garden? I do.

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Oh, what colors?

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The ones that are red and orange

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and sometimes

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the red and white ones as well.

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Oh, do you like that?

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I love that,

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I love that, yeah,

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I've got them in my garden as well.

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They're just extraordinary. Aren’tthey?

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They're so exotic.

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Yeah, they're really beautiful.

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And what about when it comes to garden

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tools and implements?

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Do you do love a tool?

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I've got an electric lawnmower

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that I use, you know, with batteries.

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Yeah.

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So you don't have the cord

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to cut through.

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And I've got a stihl little

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hedge clipper

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that's that does all the topiary.

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Yeah.

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And spades and forks. Yeah.

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So if you can take one to your island,

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what would it be?

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Garden fork.

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Garden fork? Yeah. Okay.

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What would you take?

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What would I take? Secateurs, I think.

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I don't know,

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I quite like weeding,

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so maybe it would be something.

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Do you like weeding? No. Do you not?

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I find it really cathartic,

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because if you,

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if you were in a really bad mood

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or if you're stressed about something,

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and then you go

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and then you start weeding

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at the end of the session,

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you feel great.

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You don't have that feeling no.

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Mow the lawn. Instead, I like doing that.

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Oh, I don't like doing that.

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You don't? No. So what do you do?

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Do you think that’s a

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male thing, I don't know,

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maybe it's just a human thing.

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Why do you like mowing the lawn?

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Because it feels like

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when I've been away.

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Because I film on location.

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So, so often, I find that it's.

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Maybe it's like animals

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being territorial.

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When you come back

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and you do do the lawn,

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you get into those stripes.

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It feels like

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everything is in control again.

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And the sense of it is your secent.

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Yeah. Control and scent. Yeah.

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That's what you were all about. Yeah.

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Richard E Grant, thank you.

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So much for having us around.

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It's been such a pleasure.

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Such a treat you for having me.

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I'm thoroughly inspired.

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We have a little thank you gift.

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Nick, who is our RHS

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garden expert, has brought something

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for you.

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It's lovely out here, isn't it?

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I mean, look at this.

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Outdoor roof is going to go up in flames.

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I am going to go.

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All right. So let's.

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It is.

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Yeah. That's right. Listen. Okay.

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We have got Rosemary.

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Look, I mean,

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isn't that the best isn't it.

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Yeah I know, straighten them.

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You have to just

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I've got some in my garden

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every time I walk past, I have to just.

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Yeah. Any time of the year.

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It's always there. And I love that.

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Yeah.

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We've got some nice little long

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nosed snips. Yeah.

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So when you're working your desk. Yeah.

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And you come out

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and you snip a few little bits,

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put them in a little vase,

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while your working.

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It's lovely. It's a nice thing.

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It's it feels, it's quite,

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you know that you were saying

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about that sort

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of having a really nice tools

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that work really well I love these.

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They're really quite delicate

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and that's really lovely.

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So their japanese? Yes.

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Yeah. They're super sharp.

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Really, really good. Really nice.

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A lovely book.

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Gardening with scented plants.

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Oh thank you. There we are. Look.

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Yes I know, even smelling

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the inside of the book.

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Is that a thing?

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Yes, you see.

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Oh, it smells so good. Smell that.

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And look here we go.

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Romantic garden. Wow.

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Thank you.

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Fantasitic book. Loads of nice ideas.

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Little scenes that you set up,

00:27:40.080 --> 00:27:40.720
which is pretty much

00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:41.760
what you've done in this garden,

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actually. You sniff everything.

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Everything?

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Yeah, I sniffed you the moment I met you.

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I'm with you on that.

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Yeah,

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I will my scent today for you especially.

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I was like, I'm

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just going to layer it up today.

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Oh, I love it.

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And a basket for putting all your plants.

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Oh my gosh.

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So bring it inside. Thank you.

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I feel like little Red Riding Hood.

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Thank you very much.

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What sent you where.

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What's your favorite scent that you wear?

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Yeah.

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It's, lime, marijuana, mandarin.

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But the one I've got on

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today is Covent Garden,

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which is rose ginger, carrots.

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And.

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Cedar.

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Can I smell it? Nice. Yeah.

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Oh it's lovely.

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Oh. Well Cedar.

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I can definitelty smell the cedar.

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Thank you. And we've got a friend.

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We've got a friend.

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Who's this?

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This is Neo, and it's our daughter's cat.

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And he's a rag doll with blue eyes.

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We've got one.

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Very, very sociable and often chatty.

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They talk a lot. Yeah.

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Have you found that?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I love ours.

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Gorgeous. What a beautifull face.

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Thank you. Not you, the cat.
