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Welcome to A Little Unscripted, the show where

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we pull a random title, spin a random genre,

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and then try to create a film that honestly shouldn't

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work, and is impossible, and is way too expensive,

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and no one's asking for, but that's the fun,

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one idea, one hour, and zero guarantees. Let's

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make this thing. Good day. I'm Ryan, and I'm

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Logan, and no matter what. We are going to make

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a movie today. Another one in the books and the

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torpedoes and high water. We are doing it. It

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is happening and full disclosure to everybody

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listening. And thank you for doing so. If you

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rated the show, thank you for doing that as well.

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We were geeking out over our last movie. Yes,

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yes. Kind of fun. It's been a while, so I haven't

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thought about it, and that's kind of the beauty,

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I think, is I forget about it immediately upon

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leaving the studio. I don't know about you. Went

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right back into the feeling of this film, though.

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Yes. I'm really sorry if we've inspired a serial

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killer. Please, I hope not. With a really great

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idea. The chances of doing this though, like

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you must be the best meteorologist in the world

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and they I want their job I want to be wrong

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50 % of the time and have that kind of job security

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That's all I'm saying doesn't Nicolas Cage play

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a weatherman in a movie called the weatherman.

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Does he kill somebody? No, I think it's a family

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film. I want him to kill somebody. I bet he wanted

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to. Instead of going postal is like, you know,

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the meteorologist going crazy. I don't know.

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What we need to remind everybody is that if you're

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going to pull off a serial killing such as this,

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you have to be fucking handsome as shit. Yeah,

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I think that's one of the keys. Because Boyd

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Holbrook just smoothly incorporates into this

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thing. So, Logan, as we do... Maybe we could

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be accused of not being critical enough of ourselves

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Maybe we maybe this is our this is our blind

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spot is our own personal bias against our own

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films Which maybe it's hard to kill your darlings.

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I'm sorry George Martin. I'm sorry. I want to

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I agree with you But looking at my darlings is

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really tough. Do you wish you could change the

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title? Maybe. I don't know. That's the last tornado

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in Florida. Maybe just a little bit. It feels

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like it does kind of feel like a working title,

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but we'll make it. We updated our list and we

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asked for crazier shit. It delivered quite thoroughly.

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The last tornado in Florida. I'm really stoked

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about the tagline. Yes. About the visual. Yes.

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You know, hijinks because posters do that. And

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I've become well more aware of posters lately.

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I think posters are Truly vital part of movies

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that I feel like somehow got lost along the way

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and now we're either minimalist or it's Matt

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Damon's face Back ponytail But I wanted only

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the back half of his face his head so like from

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the ear forward I don't want to see his full

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face just like a profile but somehow we'll all

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know we'll all know it's Matt Damon Damon Classic,

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classic. Jimmy Kimmel wouldn't tell us. Are you

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saying that he would? Are you saying that he

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is is the most marketable face? I don't know

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where we've landed. I don't know if he has the

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most marketable face. I just think that they

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realize it's like what if we put like. the tagline

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over Matt Damon's face. That'll sell the movie.

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That's the Martian. Yeah, sure. Works. There's

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kind of a lot of movies. My favorite movie. I'm

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not saying they're bad movies or I'm not disparaging

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Matt Damon. I'm just saying that like Hollywood

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has fallen into this trope of like, well, Matt

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Damon can do it. We can all do this. You know

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what I'm saying? Did we? Our last movie was a

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slasher. Yes. And we. Horror specifically. We

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made it into a slasher. But it was just a horror

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movie. Did you enjoy the fact that there were

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hijinks that could be? Yeah, it's so disrespectful.

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Yeah, but in the everybody is so bereaved. So

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this is maybe the worst serial killer of all

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time. Taking advantage of the bereaved people

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are lose. They've lost everything. Come this

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way, madam. And stuff you in a lock box. You

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know, what's sad is like because what's scary

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and what's funny is like a fine line. I feel

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like you can find this is why people who direct

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horror movies, direct comedy movies, they do

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so well. It's like that line is so, so razor

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thin that like I end up going to some of these

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horror movies and I laugh, not because it's funny,

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but because it's like the sheer absurdity of

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the situation. It's all you can do is laugh at

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this. You have to expel some kind of sound. Yes.

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And I think that this movie has plenty of those

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scenarios and Boyd Holbrook killing. I want to

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say, was it Elijah Wood? Was he our first police

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officer that pulls him over to start this movie?

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The sad early death. I love it because I think

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Elijah would be on board as a horror fan. We

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should add one scene in post credits or something

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where Boyd is like wearing Elijah Wood's face

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on his face and he's like, I'm a hobbit. You

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know, there could be hobbit jokes aplenty. But

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he's probably got an agreement. Do you want to

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see a post credits blooper reel after this horror

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movie? Because if there's a caveat to it, this

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is my one caveat. Now I want to see a post credits

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blooper reel to this horror movie. Does that

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ruin a horror movie? Does that take all the stank

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out of it? Unless it's a horror comedy. I don't

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know. Do you want to see behind the curtain?

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Or do you want to keep holding on to that? You're

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bringing up a good point, and you got me on this

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tightrope where I'm not sure if I want to jump

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left or right on this. To bail you out of this,

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we both have so much respect. for actors in horror

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movies because it's so hard to show everything

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like Shakespeare is a line that I think you should

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really take to heart as Hollywood and like an

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actor or anybody who wants to do something creative

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like that. Yeah, because a horror movie is only

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as good as this actor. And if the actor or actress

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is not buying into this absurd reality, right,

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then it falls flat every time because you know

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that the actor is like, well, they're not buying

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it. I know is a dumb, goofy horror movie, but

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that's why I'm here. Like look at Sam Jackson

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and like snakes on a plane and like, we want

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to get rid of you saying the line. He's like,

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I'm, I'm going to tell you guys, everybody's

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here for me to say this line, not because it's

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a great horror movie, but because they want me

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to say this line. Acting scared convincingly,

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I think is a hard thing to do. And arguably in

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a lot of these movies, they have to emote all

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of the emotions, even comedy. So to do this and

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be scared convincingly and scream and cry and

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do all that stuff is just. I feel like it's it's

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a wholesale situation to see a blooper. Maybe

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some in some way is is respecting the process

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of how you get here and they break. Yeah, it's

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just you know, like after Jack Nicholson in The

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Shining was like, go check it out. Check it out.

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You know, he had to decompress and then take

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a dump or something. You know what I mean? So

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maybe that's more respect. But I don't know.

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I don't I don't shy away from. I don't know your

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whole. I think you're correct. we hold off on

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the bloopers the bloopers are like in somewhere

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in the menus you find it and on the DVD blu -ray

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release but they scratch an itch yeah sure do

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they sure blooper they are like us look they

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make mistakes at their jobs yeah nobody's perfect

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Nobody's perfect. Well, speaking of nobody being

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perfect, we two humble friends here are here

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to make movies. And as a reminder to the listeners,

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there's a way to get a hold of us. I'm just going

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to throw that out right at the top. A little

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independent podcast at Gmail dot com. We'd like

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to hear from you. And these are the rules of

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engagement. This is why we play. It's the Roe

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versus Wade. We'll figure out what Wade means

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later. Wade with an E. We are given an original

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movie title, what we hope is an original movie

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title. So far, kind of 85 percent. I think so.

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Nobody's complaining. Nobody's got us yet. Please

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come at us to complain if you if you complain,

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just just be nice about the complaint. It's paired

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with a genre. And those are real genres. But

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pick that random and 60 minutes. We must and

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get to make a movie verbally. I mean, we set

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it up. We tell whoever wants to listen to this

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if they want to like they have the tools practically.

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We can't we we can in an hour. It's just not

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doable. Contracts alone movie alone in an hour

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negotiating with I don't think yeah We couldn't

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get a production company make one full movie

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one hour. There's no way Insurance alone would

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be an insane we'd be in getting did you pay for

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catering for one hour? How would we do it? Everybody

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rolls up. We all have everybody in one driveway

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and just like all right now what Thomas? And

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in that 60 minutes we must complete a plot in

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this movie of this movie to conclusion This movie

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must include a character. Somebody. At least

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one. We lean to a lot. We definitely like the

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ensembles. We've learned. We assign a director

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to this glorious mess. Please don't drop out

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directors that we've assigned. Yeah, we need

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you. We need you. You're needed. And in order

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to get butts in the seats, this movie must have

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a tagline. Yes, the tagline is what's drawing

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everybody in. It's not it's not the terrible

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like, hey, we just got done filming the weeklies

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and we're going to actually make a trailer today

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for a movie that comes out in like two weeks

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because we're still cutting it together. Yeah.

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Instead, we're going to hit him with a tagline

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and a movie poster. And I don't know, maybe give

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people six months to think about a movie that's

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coming out. And maybe I want to go see that one

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rather than be like, it comes out tomorrow. Logan

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keeps us honest because you remember sometimes

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I forget and I'm always reminded buddy the taglines

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is the most fun part the most fun hell is on

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the way There's not one major award. We probably

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shouldn't win for that last. You know, if I could

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if if we can honestly like pitch something to

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major studio execs, I would like to see the Academy

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Award have a movie poster and tagline, you know.

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Oh, oh, I think that that would be really fun

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leaning towards it because that'd be really slightly

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off topic. They are starting to reward stunt

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performers. Awesome, awesome, awesome. Can we

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can they do some post -homelessly ones? Because

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there's some stunt performers from like the last

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100 years who really need some awards. I bet.

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Because let's talk about shoulders of giants.

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This is true. And without who I mean, the actors

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are always very effusive and always very thankful

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of those people. But it's really cool. It's niche.

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I get it. Only you and I and a few people. But

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like to get recognized for your work on a movie

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where like, hey, I was in that movie. It's like,

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oh, yeah. Where were you? It's like they cut

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my face out. But I was the guy who took a tumble

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off a four story building. Yeah. Yeah. It's like,

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hey, you know that guy who got hit in the face

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with a motorcycle on the first Mad Max movie

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who didn't get paid because he wasn't really

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a stunt guy and it wasn't supposed to happen.

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That dude deserves an award. OK. The coma was

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worth it. Worth it. That's me. My grandkids.

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We have a list of 100 movie titles and we generate

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a random number. One and a hundred is our movie

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titles. One and fifty five are our genre. So

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I'm going to spin the magic wheel. Let's please

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hear it. OK, our one hundred sixteen and our

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genre is thirty three. All right. So I have the

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genres correct and I have the title. All right.

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You said thirty three for me. Yes. And I have

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sixteen. OK, we are. Okay, let's hear it. Somebody

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buried Larry. Somebody buried Larry. Okay. What

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a good name. Somebody buried Larry. Oh, it rhymes.

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It does. It sells itself. It does sell itself.

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Somebody buried Larry is a post -apocalyptic

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film. According to the sheet here that I have

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received from the world. So, you know. Do with

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that as you will, ladies and gentlemen, believe

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somebody buried Larry. Golly. Well, I was hoping

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it would be I was hoping it would be this to

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be what you're hoping for. Well, the post -apocalyptic

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somebody buried Larry. I love post -apocalyptic

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movies. There are so many. There are so many

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routes you could take. I feel like we've kind

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of already ended up with one only because of

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dystopian. I mean. We've been floating on this

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edge a while. It's about time we took the dive.

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What do you think? Yeah. And we need to go all

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in then. Yes, 100%. I see what you're saying.

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You're keeping us legit and real. All right.

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And on that note, I'm going to start the timer.

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And we're going to make a real, original, unique.

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post -apocalyptic film, one you've never seen

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or heard before. Who's Larry? Who cares? I don't

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know. Larry could be somebody buried him a metaphor

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for the bomb that they're looking for. Oh, like

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Godzilla is the metaphor for the nuclear bomb

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in Japan. Like, I'm down. That's deep. That's

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deep. But what are your favorite? post -apocalyptic

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movies, or books, or comics. Do you want one

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that hits the hardest? I don't know if it's my

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favorite, but it definitely hit the hardest.

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Let's say it at the same time after three. One,

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two, three. The Road. What the shit? Do we just

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become best friends? We did. Do you want to do

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Karate on the Ground? I think we have to. We're

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in love now. We might have to end this podcast

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here. That was serendipity. That is very unscripted.

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Because The Road hits too hard. Cormac McCarthy

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if you listen to this some way some shape some

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form which I very much doubt I just happen I

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don't believe you would listen to this I don't

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know how you would but like the road as a book

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I read first as a teenager and let me tell you

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that hurt That book hurt me hurt me a lot and

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then I read it again in college and I was like

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this isn't any better this this hurts and Having

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seen the movie at least a couple of times like

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Viggo Mortensen. I'm sorry you Who hurt you?

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Because you're so pure. Okay, it's so great that

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I'm like read that read that book and then do

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that character I don't know what you would do.

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I don't know what else you could do. I didn't

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know you'd read it Oh, yeah I read the book well

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before I saw the movie because of Viggo Mortensen

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was just a great actor and I was like and this

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dude is great I want to see this movie this movie

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looks the way the the trailer is cut Yeah, does

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not sell the movie that you actually see I agree

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And I think that that was a fault on the trailer

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because I think the movie deserves more praise

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for what it is. This is a you watch once and

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you're kind of done. I don't need to see the

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road ever again. That's one of those books that

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you read and you're like, they can't make this.

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The fact that they did. You know, I mean, it's

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almost nonsense that they did make that into

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a full movie. And you could anybody anybody.

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We're doing it here on the show. We're flushing

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out ideas, what have you. But for some reason,

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that read, I think it's for how real it is. I

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think it's for how real it feels like no character

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feels out of place what you don't know. because

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you're left still with a lot of questions. Yes.

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Cormac McCarthy gives you absolutely zero answers.

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But I think what he does is holds up a beautiful

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mirror that says this is what humanity is capable

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and possible of. Yeah. And you just have to accept

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the good, the bad and the ugly, unfortunately.

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And there is a lot of the ugly in there. We talked

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about it last episode because of our writer director.

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Cuisine Dale Apocalypse opens up brilliantly

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with however you think the world ended. You're

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probably right. Yeah. So what that you know,

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narratively it's it's super fun but what kind

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of gets you going as far as a is it more of how

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the world ended or where because yeah, you like

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I I play in a band and I named an album the apocalypse

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and retrospect because I was obsessed with the

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idea of like that first newscast that was like

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we've rebuilt now we're gonna go That was wild.

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Let's not do that one. And eventually it would

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happen. Right. Somebody would have to go. It

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goes wrong again. Where it went wrong. But on

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a huge scale, meaning a world ending catastrophe.

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I like the idea. It feels very much like the

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postman. But if it's like somebody's trying to

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cover the apocalypse in the wake of rebuilding,

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it's very simple. It's kind of like the idea

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of World War Z. Have you read that? Yes. Yes,

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I have. That's kind of the idea of this is that

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it's being done posthumously. OK. And they're

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trying to piece it all together. They're trying

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to figure out who buried Larry. But the and maybe

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Larry is like, like symbolic of a news award.

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You can win. What if Larry was like, but like

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he was he very much like bear with me here. Post

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-apocalypse, like would you consider idiocracy

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a post -apocalypse? That's fascinating. That's

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very fascinating. I feel like the people living

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in it at the time they don't know that it was

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apocalypse But like well when when intellectually,

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right? Yes, like when Luke Wilson's character

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I forget his name I forget well like he gives

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the robot not sure not sure when not sure arrives

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when he gets there and he's not sure and Like

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to him. This is the post apocalypse like the

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world ended like to him. This is not the world

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that he left Well, there is an apocalyptic event

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in the movie. This is how nerdy are we but here

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we go is the garbage landslide. That's what's

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named in its name, the great garbage landslide.

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So the problem was that they couldn't. That was

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the precipice of where they had to be faced with

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dealing with their own filth coming back at them.

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OK, like the ocean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really

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like a soda can. It's like something simple.

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They've just been piling it. It's like Claudia

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with a chance of meatballs. They were just hooking

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it over a fence. I'm sorry, was Mike Judge wrong?

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No, the prophet post apocalyptic. To get granular,

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it means the apocalypse has happened. And this

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is some sort of wake up. Right. We have been

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dystopian. Mm hmm. But we've still been civilized.

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Is this the move where we go crazy, bananas,

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Mad Max, everybody's kind of out for themselves?

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Have you seen a movie? I'm going to get this

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wrong. Look it up, give us the internet device.

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It's a Starz Guard. There's a few Starz Guards.

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It's called Hide or Hidden. I have not heard

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of it. And it's one of the most unique post -apocalyptic

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movies I've ever seen. It's all It's all predicated

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on this one Kind of twist The idea is he and

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his wife and their daughter are in a bunker Hidden

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2015 okay, and there are some crazy threat outside

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now. That's the only that's the whole plot of

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the movie But there is a wonder. It's really

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wonderful. It's super tense I like stuff like

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that, but I also like, Waterworld's one of the

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best ever, here he is right here, a more expansive

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thing, but the idea of somebody trying to cover

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it and re -report on what went wrong in the wake

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of it potentially going wrong again might be

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fun, or do we just do something mad max and just

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fucking insane? I like the idea of insanity.

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I love just going off the deep end on this, especially

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post -apocalypse. I love the idea of it just

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being like our main character, whoever they are,

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male or female, is just Larry. That's who they

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are. Somebody buried Larry. Oh, so we hit the

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nose and we're saying Larry is our main character.

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What a great main character. What is just a typical

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standard? This is a name. This is a name place.

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Like this is a placeholder name. And when we

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get a better name, we'll pick it. But then by

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the time you think about it, you're like, I'm

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stuck with Larry now. Our main character be female

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and Larry also be a nickname. I think so. Or

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is there a derivative of a female name that goes

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down to? Well, I mean, like Larry, I was going

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to say, like Larry is definitely Lawrence is

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like the but Florence is Flaherty. No, it'd be

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like Flurry or Fleur or something like that.

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Thank you for. Bouncing your idea with me. God

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damn it. You're welcome. The road. I'm still

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tripping a little bit. Goosebumps. People may

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think that's we haven't discussed that. We've

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discussed a lot, but like I didn't know you'd

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read it. Yeah. Yeah. The road is that there's

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a post -apocalypse like Mount Rushmore that the

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road needs to be at the top. All right. So do

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we have a hook? What's Larry's mission? And is

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it? You know, how gnarly of a landscape are we

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talking about? Do you like Larry being alone?

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The Book of Eli. Yeah, I was thinking about Book

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of Eli. I like it. I like the idea of like a

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wanderer just going through wastelands. Yes.

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What's the wasteland? What caused the wasteland?

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Because I don't think we should do nuclear. fallouts

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kind of got the like the show fallouts kind of

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got that figured out as fun as it is this is

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interesting I you know all right here's the one

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that I like there's there's a wild one I want

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to take yeah just cuz I can yeah but then there's

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like the one I think that would probably be more

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realistic but the wild one I want to take is

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uh in somewhere my brain back years ago I truly

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think that like I truly think the next world

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war could be started based solely off coffee

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or the lack thereof. Let me clarify. I think

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if third world nations or other nations decide

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to stop exporting coffee to the United States,

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we would definitely declare war on everybody.

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Oh, I love this. And I think that like the whole

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premise of like people being like, wait, we went

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to war over bean water. It's like, yeah, we literally

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did this. Can we combine a couple of concepts

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because I have a wild idea that's usually not

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embraced because I you were talking about cause

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of the wasteland and coffee. I'm really obsessed

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with the world of 12 monkeys. And where nature

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started to take over. The part of 12 monkeys

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I like is the red herring. I like that part of

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12 monkeys. But the idea, and there's a book

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that, I think it's called The World Without Us,

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that talks about if we were gone tomorrow, what

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would start happening? Subways would flood, blah,

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blah, blah. Nature would take over. What if the

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hippies won and we allowed... the earth to take

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over and it went wrong. Oh, and that's the cause

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of the apocalyptic. Well, we're not. You could

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leave it vague, but that allows for the coffee

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war thing to happen because that could have precip

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that could like precipitate this. And it led

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to like this vast world peace that fucked us.

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I have a real world like current example if you

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if you would indulge my brain for a moment. So

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Pablo Escobar shipped hippos from Africa to his

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compound in Colombia, right? That's dope. Okay.

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We all know the story of Pablo Escobar. I mean,

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I would, would you? If you were a billionaire

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of cocaine, you would do everything you want.

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I'd feed motherfuckers to those things. Supposedly.

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Supposedly he may have urban legend is that he

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did who knows good way to get rid of a body any

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who? So it went from like 15 hippos in the Amazon

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like the Colombian Amazon to we removed Pablo

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Escobar and the cartel falls apart and then they're

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like well we need to like do something about

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us. Well, they decide we can't do anything about

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this just yet. So they escape their enclosure.

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And now there's like hundreds of hippos. Oh,

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wow. And they're like extremely close to getting

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into the Amazon. And if they get into the Amazon

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River basin, it's over, like from Colombia all

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the way down to Brazil. They're very territorial.

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They are very territorial. But like the thing

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is, they have no natural predators because they're

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an apex predator. And they're also a continent

00:24:01.289 --> 00:24:03.490
away. Like they're an ocean from where they're

00:24:03.490 --> 00:24:05.630
they're talking about a hippo takeover. Turns

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out. So Columbia tries to get rid of this problem

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because it's a problem. They're like, we're going

00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:12.519
to get rid of this problem. American students

00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:17.599
get this story, get so upset that they get a

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lawsuit. signed by a judge declaring the hippos

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as people. And now because of an American law,

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they cannot legally remove the hippos in any

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way, shape or form because in Colombia, because

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the American law dictates that these hippos signed

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by a federal judge are humans or sorry, not humans.

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They are people and therefore cannot be removed.

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But so some hippies in America got judged to

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sign a law in America that is creating precedent

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for our story. I'm just saying. It's already

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happening. It's literally happening in there

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like hey, what's hippos are people's like? I'm

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not saying hippos aren't people but I'm saying

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if these people get into the hippos aren't people

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Can we tax them? I would like to what is happening

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or how are they now? How are the hippos giving

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back? What are they? They're only going to be

00:25:06.420 --> 00:25:08.119
done for me lately hippos. What have you done

00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:12.990
for me? Well, I think mutant hippo people mutant

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hippo people have to be so the idea Yeah, this

00:25:16.170 --> 00:25:18.930
is these coffee wars. Yes created this thing

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and it led to like what if the hippies what if

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and it didn't work out? Yes, I created a utopia

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and everything fell apart everything's there

00:25:26.930 --> 00:25:29.730
could be lushness But yes thing is there's fucking

00:25:29.730 --> 00:25:32.650
creatures. Yeah, the animals have done whatever

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has happened because of maybe We let it go. We

00:25:36.420 --> 00:25:38.440
lost. You know what I mean? So they've become

00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:40.220
like this hippo thing could be part of this.

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I mean, let's be real here. So there's a couple

00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:43.599
of things our post -apocalypse needs to have.

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Humans need to be on the verge, right? Of like,

00:25:46.140 --> 00:25:48.579
yeah, full total extinction in some capacity.

00:25:48.619 --> 00:25:51.279
And even if like the world became set in whatever,

00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:53.059
you could have flashes of it. But I mean, the

00:25:53.059 --> 00:25:55.640
black people are certain places on the planet

00:25:55.640 --> 00:25:57.299
to this day. And that's terrifying. I don't want

00:25:57.299 --> 00:26:00.400
to shit on the peace movement, but like. What

00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.819
if the hippies won and we just gave peace a chance

00:26:03.819 --> 00:26:05.359
and it fucked us over? I'm going to go with the

00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:07.079
George R. R. Martin quote. There's nobody that's

00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:09.720
good or bad. Everybody's gray. And we all live

00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:12.900
in the variations of grayness. So you can be

00:26:12.900 --> 00:26:15.140
a good person, but still do bad things. The path

00:26:15.140 --> 00:26:17.380
to hell is lined with good intentions. So the

00:26:17.380 --> 00:26:20.259
coffee wars. Let's say that that is our inciting

00:26:20.259 --> 00:26:23.539
incident to create this global whatever. But

00:26:23.539 --> 00:26:26.539
you still have criminals. I like the idea that

00:26:26.539 --> 00:26:29.700
the drug lords have become, you know, like uh,

00:26:30.059 --> 00:26:32.640
the usurpers of coffee and they started planting

00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:35.099
coffee trees everywhere to try to save the coffee,

00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:36.599
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, yeah. I

00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:38.799
mean, like cartels have already taken over avocado

00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:41.579
farms in Mexico because avocado makes money.

00:26:41.740 --> 00:26:44.000
All of these things are real things. Yeah. All

00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:46.299
these like ideas that we're throwing are legit

00:26:46.299 --> 00:26:48.480
and I think it definitely leads to this is fun.

00:26:48.859 --> 00:26:50.880
This is fun. Are we going to predict the world

00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:52.839
ending apocalypse through coffee by accidentally

00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:55.200
making this fun movie? We all just sat down to

00:26:55.200 --> 00:27:04.960
give us a chance. Turns out somebody buried Larry.

00:27:05.180 --> 00:27:07.599
The thing we shouldn't have done was peace. Peace

00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.299
was never an option. Well, and maybe the idea

00:27:10.299 --> 00:27:12.319
is there's some kind of blight and that like

00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:15.519
a pure body is what's needed to, you know, turn

00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:19.539
things around because do we, do we want a hero's

00:27:19.539 --> 00:27:23.200
journey for Larry or do we want a really depressing

00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.410
bummer? Because we've created a fun little universe

00:27:26.410 --> 00:27:28.170
here. I don't think I've seen anything like this

00:27:28.170 --> 00:27:31.049
I think it could be we could still end on a semi

00:27:31.049 --> 00:27:32.910
happy note I feel like this. I don't know if

00:27:32.910 --> 00:27:35.049
we can this is like the Genesis planet Maybe

00:27:35.049 --> 00:27:38.450
in Star Trek where they have the ability to like

00:27:38.450 --> 00:27:41.710
create vast new life Mm -hmm, and that could

00:27:41.710 --> 00:27:45.049
of course go wrong Because it's the post -apocalypse,

00:27:45.250 --> 00:27:47.710
you know, but like the world is this is the earth

00:27:47.710 --> 00:27:50.890
and we tried this thing and it just went home

00:27:50.890 --> 00:27:53.170
Yeah, and we weren't able to live together and

00:27:53.170 --> 00:27:56.170
nature eventually won somebody buried Larry and

00:27:56.170 --> 00:27:58.910
it starts with a piece of trial allowing hippos

00:27:58.910 --> 00:28:02.529
to become people and then they Became stronger

00:28:02.529 --> 00:28:05.369
if we do this in the line doesn't have a like

00:28:05.369 --> 00:28:07.269
the tagline doesn't have a line about hippos

00:28:07.269 --> 00:28:10.430
like yeah I have like we gave a chance and it

00:28:10.430 --> 00:28:13.970
killed us or and it fucked us Damn hippo people,

00:28:14.430 --> 00:28:17.609
but I don't necessarily want this to be funny

00:28:17.609 --> 00:28:19.849
Yeah, I don't know if this is a funny movie because

00:28:19.849 --> 00:28:23.990
the if it's really like silent running There's

00:28:23.990 --> 00:28:26.730
a wonderful old sci -fi movie with Bruce Dern

00:28:26.730 --> 00:28:30.710
and it's like the the world is ending or ended

00:28:30.710 --> 00:28:32.829
Forgive me if I'm kidding it wrong. I own it

00:28:33.630 --> 00:28:37.529
But it's one I haven't seen a bunch. But the

00:28:37.529 --> 00:28:41.190
world's forests are being preserved in spaceships

00:28:41.190 --> 00:28:44.970
in space. And that's only part of the broader

00:28:44.970 --> 00:28:49.549
thing that's going on. And you assume these caretakers

00:28:49.549 --> 00:28:52.250
are on this long journey to do this thing. And

00:28:52.250 --> 00:28:54.890
then they're waiting for a solution down below.

00:28:55.710 --> 00:28:58.049
And this is all part of the recovery process.

00:28:58.349 --> 00:29:00.890
And then at some point, they're like, abandon

00:29:00.890 --> 00:29:06.140
it all. Things are bad things suck. So Yeah,

00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:08.440
the last force I've got to go you're gonna have

00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:10.480
to save yourself somehow and Bruce turns like

00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:13.200
nah Not gonna not doing not destroying my ship

00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:16.220
and it becomes this like fugitive on that's my

00:29:16.220 --> 00:29:19.619
shipping but like the idea of nature of Saving

00:29:19.619 --> 00:29:22.599
things but it being the aggressor here, but there's

00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.420
still being something to be salvaged Yeah, which

00:29:25.420 --> 00:29:28.200
may be the relationship between the two. I mean

00:29:28.819 --> 00:29:30.880
You can't deny that humans definitely have an

00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.359
impact on the environment in which we currently

00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:36.059
reside. Right. Like the way I like to think about

00:29:36.059 --> 00:29:39.059
our planet is that we all coexist on a space

00:29:39.059 --> 00:29:41.619
rock hurling through space. It's a spaceship.

00:29:41.859 --> 00:29:43.940
I want to be an astronaut. Like you are currently

00:29:43.940 --> 00:29:47.720
right now actively doing it. You are you are

00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:49.940
an astronaut. You are sailing through the stars.

00:29:49.980 --> 00:29:52.380
Not to take anything away from any actual astronauts.

00:29:52.380 --> 00:29:54.400
Not to take anything from anybody who's gotten

00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:58.680
out of our gravitational pull directly through

00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:01.000
a rocket based program. We're setting ourselves

00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:04.880
up here. And I'm okay for it. But yes, we may

00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:08.599
have a character shortage, so we can create flashbacks.

00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:12.240
Yeah, I think we can. But let's focus on the

00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:14.460
current world we're in. I like that we're in

00:30:14.460 --> 00:30:17.480
very nature. Yeah. But there could be periods

00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:20.720
or places that are fucked up. Do you like showing

00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:23.140
ruins like, you know, like our current world?

00:30:23.220 --> 00:30:25.609
Like, hey, here's a. piece of our civilization

00:30:25.609 --> 00:30:27.809
that kind of survived, but like you, they wouldn't

00:30:27.809 --> 00:30:29.250
know it. Like it's just like, that's always,

00:30:29.549 --> 00:30:31.910
it's a good little dopamine rush and it's used

00:30:31.910 --> 00:30:36.690
for like literally, um, like jaw dropping finales,

00:30:36.750 --> 00:30:38.970
like the planet of the apes and other things.

00:30:39.269 --> 00:30:41.150
Exactly. Like, but that's the whole set piece.

00:30:41.670 --> 00:30:45.549
I think, um, I am legend is kind of a fun archetype

00:30:45.549 --> 00:30:49.289
for this in a way because that world he's in

00:30:49.289 --> 00:30:52.190
New York, Manhattan. I think they botched the

00:30:52.190 --> 00:30:55.980
ending too hard. But but like, I think that even

00:30:55.980 --> 00:30:58.779
the even the of the two, I think they gave it

00:30:58.779 --> 00:31:01.519
the two endings. Where you see the earth coming

00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:03.180
back and like when they're attacked by lions.

00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.299
Yeah, it's stuff like that. That's kind of cool.

00:31:05.819 --> 00:31:08.859
But I'd like us to tackle that in a fun way.

00:31:08.859 --> 00:31:12.519
Like, what's something we haven't seen in even

00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:16.420
an escape from L .A.? Fuck you, haters. Fuck

00:31:16.420 --> 00:31:18.960
you. Bruce Campbell's terrifying. He is terrifying.

00:31:19.460 --> 00:31:21.859
Terrifying. Can Bruce Campbell be in this movie

00:31:21.859 --> 00:31:25.589
somehow? Only if he's our villain. Yes. Yes.

00:31:26.190 --> 00:31:28.250
He's the gang leader that we run into, but he's

00:31:28.250 --> 00:31:31.009
super uber charismatic and like everybody loves

00:31:31.009 --> 00:31:34.109
him and like, you know, wrong, but as a side

00:31:34.109 --> 00:31:36.650
note, and I don't want to lose this track from

00:31:36.650 --> 00:31:41.069
escape from LA, but the keeping oneself beautiful.

00:31:41.259 --> 00:31:44.099
Yeah, you know, like, definitely, like, is that

00:31:44.099 --> 00:31:46.480
a thing if it's possible that anybody even cares

00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:49.220
about? But an escape from L .A., even when he's

00:31:49.220 --> 00:31:51.559
in the submarine, he's going through, you know,

00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:54.400
what used to be like a thing underwater is creepy,

00:31:54.819 --> 00:31:57.539
too. I think claustrophobia is what's terrifying.

00:31:57.980 --> 00:32:00.119
Yeah. So if there could be elements of things

00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.000
that are even underwater, too, if we can get

00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:04.039
all of our cake and eat it, too. Question for

00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:06.420
him. But what if the idea of somebody bury Larry

00:32:06.420 --> 00:32:08.519
this post apocalypse is that it is in a bunker?

00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:12.700
But like it's it's like An apocalypse like test

00:32:12.700 --> 00:32:15.359
survival like Larry's this guy like hey or this

00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:18.140
gal like yeah the best of the best We've devised

00:32:18.140 --> 00:32:19.880
a whole system of be like these are the post

00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.000
-apocalypses that we want to see if people can

00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.839
survive and the whole thing is like a Test and

00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:27.200
like turns out Larry gets out and it's like no

00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.710
the world did end surprise like It was actually

00:32:29.710 --> 00:32:31.910
just like, no, no, you were like part of this

00:32:31.910 --> 00:32:33.890
program. You were meant to survive it. Yeah.

00:32:33.990 --> 00:32:35.349
You weren't meant to stop it. You were meant

00:32:35.349 --> 00:32:38.029
to survive. Or like, I like the idea. Also, if

00:32:38.029 --> 00:32:40.250
this is the premise that we run with, like somehow

00:32:40.250 --> 00:32:43.529
there's like this imagine a super soldier program

00:32:43.529 --> 00:32:45.390
like we're going to design people, we're going

00:32:45.390 --> 00:32:47.549
to release them along the way. Larry's buried

00:32:47.549 --> 00:32:49.470
in this bunker. This is really interesting. And

00:32:49.470 --> 00:32:54.950
the world is over. I had surmised a world with

00:32:54.950 --> 00:32:57.849
our character, Larry. Who could be a girl. We

00:32:57.849 --> 00:32:59.569
haven't even gotten to who it is. We were still

00:32:59.569 --> 00:33:01.789
talking about the post box. But if it's going

00:33:01.789 --> 00:33:04.069
to be low character, we're going to have to have

00:33:04.069 --> 00:33:06.049
a lot of story. Yes. In our defense, does that

00:33:06.049 --> 00:33:09.730
make sense? Yes. I presupposed a world where

00:33:09.730 --> 00:33:14.130
nature was given a chance, and it got us. Like,

00:33:14.130 --> 00:33:16.289
we weren't ready for it. The government didn't

00:33:16.289 --> 00:33:20.069
have bunkers. We just got fucked. And there wasn't

00:33:20.069 --> 00:33:23.750
a government conspiracy left. We're just in a

00:33:23.750 --> 00:33:27.640
world that is a free for all. which could be

00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:30.940
not great because it messes us up. So you would

00:33:30.940 --> 00:33:35.180
like to see and I agree there was some kind of

00:33:35.180 --> 00:33:37.180
preparedness in the fall. I think. All right.

00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.440
So instead of it being like fallout like the

00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:41.220
show where it's like nuclear fallout or anything

00:33:41.220 --> 00:33:42.900
like that. But let's be really like there are

00:33:42.900 --> 00:33:44.859
people who are building bunkers for the end of

00:33:44.859 --> 00:33:47.319
times. What if the idea of like Larry is buried

00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:49.180
and like they're like all right. Well I figure

00:33:49.180 --> 00:33:50.920
by the time this happens you know we'll have

00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:52.920
things sort out. They wake up and they walk out

00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:55.640
into the post. What about the concept of prepper

00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:57.539
bunk. bunkers. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like

00:33:57.539 --> 00:34:01.039
these aren't official, but like in the decline,

00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:04.420
there was a map made of just regular people who

00:34:04.420 --> 00:34:06.640
had these things. That was something that was

00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:11.480
kept. Yeah. That was smart. And there's a large

00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:14.119
search. You know what I mean? For this one. So

00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:17.420
for Larry, the last bunker. Yeah, that's occupied.

00:34:17.619 --> 00:34:19.760
Larry, the last bunker. So think about this.

00:34:19.900 --> 00:34:22.440
OK, think about across our country. How many

00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:26.059
people have bunkers now? A lot. A lot. So, in

00:34:26.059 --> 00:34:28.619
the fall of our civilization, through nature

00:34:28.619 --> 00:34:31.639
taking us over floods, and again, nature could

00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:35.179
take over nuclear reactor sites and conceivably

00:34:35.179 --> 00:34:38.239
cause mass explosion events. Yeah, anything's

00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:40.579
possible. We could have all of our cake and eat

00:34:40.579 --> 00:34:42.239
it too. We could have different landscapes that

00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:46.429
we want. But the idea is they made note... of

00:34:46.429 --> 00:34:48.389
every individual because of surveillance tech,

00:34:48.389 --> 00:34:51.269
whatever, of all these Preppers bunkers. Do we

00:34:51.269 --> 00:34:53.170
start with that as our intro scene? And that

00:34:53.170 --> 00:34:56.989
was going to be a part of our survival technique

00:34:56.989 --> 00:35:00.929
later as these are already there. They're stocked.

00:35:01.190 --> 00:35:03.269
We don't have to have the government making a

00:35:03.269 --> 00:35:04.710
bunch of stuff. Here's all the bunkers you just

00:35:04.710 --> 00:35:06.010
have to get to them. We already have them. We're

00:35:06.010 --> 00:35:07.730
going to eminent domain because it's the end

00:35:07.730 --> 00:35:10.670
of the fucking world, bitch. So this is a search

00:35:10.670 --> 00:35:14.250
of every Preppers bunker because I think I have

00:35:14.250 --> 00:35:16.750
an intro for this. Yeah. With this premise, I

00:35:16.750 --> 00:35:19.750
like the idea of it starting with the news, like,

00:35:19.750 --> 00:35:22.849
you know, a news broadcast and them being like,

00:35:22.869 --> 00:35:24.889
this is our last broadcast. Like if anybody's

00:35:24.889 --> 00:35:26.989
still listening, of course. And then they put

00:35:26.989 --> 00:35:28.849
like the display of the map like here's the map

00:35:28.849 --> 00:35:31.510
of all the known bunkers that we have discovered

00:35:31.510 --> 00:35:34.730
so far. Nobody has gotten to them yet. If anybody

00:35:34.730 --> 00:35:37.489
can get to them, like, you know, chances humanity

00:35:37.489 --> 00:35:40.170
will survive is like the plea is the idea. And

00:35:40.170 --> 00:35:42.769
then we cut to somebody and it's like. They're

00:35:42.769 --> 00:35:44.889
literally like got like a hand like a hand -drawn

00:35:44.889 --> 00:35:47.590
crayon map that they've been trying to like draw

00:35:47.590 --> 00:35:50.210
based off of memory or something like that Going

00:35:50.210 --> 00:35:51.789
out into the post -apocalypse because I feel

00:35:51.789 --> 00:35:53.949
like yeah, we start hard and we start heavy with

00:35:53.949 --> 00:35:58.809
this for sure and and the idea is that There's

00:35:58.809 --> 00:36:01.690
got to be a unique reason for all of this, right?

00:36:01.769 --> 00:36:05.369
Yeah, for sure. The Karens won, or the hippies

00:36:05.369 --> 00:36:08.510
won. They told us that it was OK to let nature

00:36:08.510 --> 00:36:10.750
do nature things. Nature really got us good.

00:36:10.769 --> 00:36:13.550
And nature really got us good. I don't want to

00:36:13.550 --> 00:36:15.449
get too hooked up into the minutiae of this,

00:36:15.449 --> 00:36:17.469
but I think it's sellable. I think it's also

00:36:17.469 --> 00:36:19.489
sellable. But again, it gives us so much production

00:36:19.489 --> 00:36:22.949
design. Yeah, we're going on the wild. I like

00:36:22.949 --> 00:36:27.010
the idea that our main character is So this would

00:36:27.010 --> 00:36:30.250
be somebody conceivably. What age do you see?

00:36:30.570 --> 00:36:33.849
Do you see a certain age of somebody? I think

00:36:33.849 --> 00:36:36.889
any age entirely possible. Is there a look? Because

00:36:36.889 --> 00:36:39.579
I'm kind of. I kind of feel like it almost looks

00:36:39.579 --> 00:36:41.599
like Star Wars in a weird way. I can see that.

00:36:41.940 --> 00:36:45.019
It will definitely feel alien. Some military,

00:36:45.260 --> 00:36:48.980
some not. If this person is... Here's a question.

00:36:49.059 --> 00:36:52.440
Are they exiting their own bunker because, let's

00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.420
say, their supplies are running low and they

00:36:54.420 --> 00:36:57.980
need to get these supplies? Or something to that

00:36:57.980 --> 00:37:00.480
effect? Or are they totally alone? Where are

00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:02.320
they when they get out? I'd love for the key

00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:07.780
to turning this around, being there. to this

00:37:07.780 --> 00:37:11.079
is corny, but it like restoring the relationship

00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:12.840
between the two. That's what fucked it up in

00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.400
the first place. If somebody has to make a sacrifice

00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:18.480
to do it, that's what it is. But that's like

00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:21.159
you need another person to walk away. Of course,

00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:22.619
I think there was I think we were going to stumble

00:37:22.619 --> 00:37:25.019
across other folks. Yeah. And maybe it's a knowledge

00:37:25.019 --> 00:37:27.519
base that needs to happen like that. Our person

00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:30.079
may be a part of something that we don't know.

00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.659
And we let that lie. There could be other characters.

00:37:33.539 --> 00:37:35.659
I like I mean, I'm just I'm trying to think of

00:37:35.659 --> 00:37:38.099
the idea of like what if they're like, hey, there's

00:37:38.099 --> 00:37:39.900
got to be something beyond where we are. We're

00:37:39.900 --> 00:37:41.780
running low on supplies. We have to go check

00:37:41.780 --> 00:37:43.699
and like, no, it's dangerous out there, of course,

00:37:43.780 --> 00:37:45.639
because we're in close civilization. Is it kind

00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:47.860
of we do this a lot, but is it kind of fun if

00:37:47.860 --> 00:37:51.199
we just like don't show the other people and

00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:53.559
and their bunker? Yeah, I don't think you could.

00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:56.239
I think we literally can show the person exiting

00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:59.159
the bunker. Into this and a lot of stuff like

00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.039
you get to you get context out of like this the

00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:04.579
bunker culture Yeah, and these are just regular

00:38:04.579 --> 00:38:08.480
people's places who may who may have been betrayed

00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.539
What if the person sent out or if it's like a

00:38:11.539 --> 00:38:13.159
lottery system where they're like, hey, we have

00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.699
to send somebody every few weeks and like this

00:38:16.699 --> 00:38:19.289
is just the next person and I like that there's

00:38:19.289 --> 00:38:21.250
a mission for some reason. They're being sent

00:38:21.250 --> 00:38:23.190
on a mission. I like the idea of they're being

00:38:23.190 --> 00:38:24.909
sent on a mission, but like it's a desperate

00:38:24.909 --> 00:38:26.650
mission. Like, hey, we haven't heard from so

00:38:26.650 --> 00:38:29.150
and so and we keep sending some other people

00:38:29.150 --> 00:38:31.789
and like they, you know, along their route through

00:38:31.789 --> 00:38:34.090
the post -apocalypse, they're like, oh, when

00:38:34.090 --> 00:38:36.190
they stumble upon the cannibal tribe, because

00:38:36.190 --> 00:38:38.329
we got to have a cannibal tribe out there. Yeah.

00:38:38.550 --> 00:38:39.889
Channing Tatum is going to be the guy. No, we

00:38:39.889 --> 00:38:42.150
can't do Channing. Mutants with the animals.

00:38:42.269 --> 00:38:45.030
Yeah. Like when we've run into this stuff. Or

00:38:45.030 --> 00:38:48.010
like, we're going to run into the show of like,

00:38:48.030 --> 00:38:51.190
hey, here's the other survivors who didn't survive

00:38:51.190 --> 00:38:53.869
until their mission, right? Exactly. So I think

00:38:53.869 --> 00:38:55.630
that that needs to be a thing. I think this person

00:38:55.630 --> 00:39:00.070
is not very like they are not the hero. This

00:39:00.070 --> 00:39:03.250
person is definitely like Ben selected and they're

00:39:03.250 --> 00:39:06.650
like, if you make it great. We're not expecting

00:39:06.650 --> 00:39:09.579
you to make it. Also, everybody's definitely

00:39:09.579 --> 00:39:11.760
kind of mutated inside this bunker, right? Like

00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:14.260
they're all kind of how far in the future. Well,

00:39:14.260 --> 00:39:18.579
that's that's interesting. Like how how gnarly

00:39:18.579 --> 00:39:21.699
do you want things to be? All right. You're ready

00:39:21.699 --> 00:39:23.679
for this. I'm going to throw this at you. I want

00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:27.539
Terry Gillum to direct this. What the fuck? You

00:39:27.539 --> 00:39:29.780
said twelve monkeys. Terry Gillum will definitely.

00:39:29.780 --> 00:39:32.619
OK, OK. This movie. He'll definitely do a wild

00:39:32.619 --> 00:39:34.940
job. He will. Like, have you seen Brazil? Come

00:39:34.940 --> 00:39:37.420
on, people. He'll make. Yeah, I'm with you, but

00:39:37.420 --> 00:39:39.900
I want I want him to make it a little bit less

00:39:39.900 --> 00:39:42.920
insane. Like, I'd like to. OK, yeah, a little

00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:45.500
bit. OK, so we need to dial it back because I

00:39:45.500 --> 00:39:47.579
think this could be mainstream. This could definitely

00:39:47.579 --> 00:39:51.139
be mainstream. Like the Coen Brothers. I can

00:39:51.139 --> 00:39:52.960
see the Coen Brothers doing this. That's too

00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.360
weird. Is it though? I feel like they could do.

00:39:55.820 --> 00:39:58.239
I'd like for this to be a really big world. OK,

00:39:58.380 --> 00:40:01.780
you know what I mean? Yeah, I do. I feel Adrian

00:40:01.780 --> 00:40:03.840
Brody, because I'm just thinking of predators

00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:06.380
and it kind of does. It feels like this is very

00:40:06.380 --> 00:40:08.840
much a road trip movie. Like a Luke Wilson. Yeah.

00:40:09.179 --> 00:40:12.199
Like somebody who's tough, but like still lovable

00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:15.320
at a certain age, you know, younger Luke Wilson.

00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:18.519
Yeah. Now, because I think it'll help us email

00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:21.639
or mail in a way female. OK, who are you thinking

00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:23.900
female? Because you're thinking younger naive.

00:40:24.019 --> 00:40:25.980
I feel like you're going for the naivety, like

00:40:25.980 --> 00:40:28.269
you're looking for somebody. who already kind

00:40:28.269 --> 00:40:30.789
of exudes this unknowing property because they're

00:40:30.789 --> 00:40:33.869
going into an unknown peak. Like 20s Drew Barrymore.

00:40:34.789 --> 00:40:40.190
I can see it. She's tough. I can see it. I'll

00:40:40.190 --> 00:40:42.130
put a pin. Can we put a pin in it? I'm not I'm

00:40:42.130 --> 00:40:44.210
not 100 percent sold on. And I'm getting you

00:40:44.210 --> 00:40:46.309
know, I'm getting I'm trying to push us out of

00:40:46.309 --> 00:40:49.230
our modern zone. Yeah, we need to go backwards.

00:40:49.849 --> 00:40:51.929
I was thinking of, you know, there is a hero's

00:40:51.929 --> 00:40:55.070
journey to this, but some toughness has got to

00:40:55.070 --> 00:40:57.440
be there. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like it

00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:01.280
is like to me more young to me more. I'm just

00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:03.840
seeing her as G .I. Jane, but like right in those

00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:07.039
kind of tough, tough, tight, Claire Danes. Maybe

00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:11.239
I see like a Sharon Stone, Sharon Stone. I feel

00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:14.800
like she's too tall. How dare you have too tall

00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:18.380
Sharon. How do all the judgments too tall is

00:41:18.380 --> 00:41:20.559
the criteria. Do you think she has the chops?

00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.420
Yeah, I think for sure she's got the job. I think

00:41:23.420 --> 00:41:26.840
so. You are you know what I think thinking about

00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:29.320
it you were looking for I think honestly younger

00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.619
well like I don't remember her I would like I

00:41:32.619 --> 00:41:36.659
Think Laura Dern Because people forget like they've

00:41:36.659 --> 00:41:38.900
they dress her already we might have but I think

00:41:38.900 --> 00:41:40.880
that she would be very perfect because like Jurassic

00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:43.360
Park She was only like 23 when she did right

00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:46.619
part wild at heart. I'm in I think Laura Dern

00:41:46.619 --> 00:41:48.380
would be a great selection for this if we've

00:41:48.380 --> 00:41:51.469
used Laura Dern And this is our one mulligan.

00:41:51.769 --> 00:41:53.869
I'm willing to sacrifice our mulligan for Laura

00:41:53.869 --> 00:41:55.650
Bernegan. Because somebody you can root for who

00:41:55.650 --> 00:42:00.630
has strength, who can fight. I'm sure we've suggested

00:42:00.630 --> 00:42:03.130
her before. Or maybe older. She's just a treasure.

00:42:03.449 --> 00:42:05.750
She is a treasure. All right. Is there anybody

00:42:05.750 --> 00:42:07.510
else you can see? Yeah. How far back you want

00:42:07.510 --> 00:42:10.269
to go? Keep going. I mentioned Drew Barrymore.

00:42:10.389 --> 00:42:13.570
I'm trying to think of scrappy. People are probably

00:42:13.570 --> 00:42:15.710
losing their minds right now. Going insane. They're

00:42:15.710 --> 00:42:18.230
probably shouting at their headphones at us.

00:42:18.820 --> 00:42:21.860
Selma Blair would be fun. I guess she's got an

00:42:21.860 --> 00:42:24.800
interesting look. Hellboy. Do you know who you're

00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:26.019
talking about? I know exactly who you're talking

00:42:26.019 --> 00:42:27.840
about. I think she's tough. She's a fighter.

00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:35.059
If you go current, the girl from, forgive me,

00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:38.460
from Knives Out and the Ballerina. Oh, Ana de

00:42:38.460 --> 00:42:41.179
Armas. Yeah. I think she would be great if we

00:42:41.179 --> 00:42:45.480
went current. Yeah. Kathleen Turner, young Kathleen

00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:51.829
Turner. OK, OK. Lori Petty. We put her in some.

00:42:52.070 --> 00:42:53.809
I think we did, but I think that she would also

00:42:53.809 --> 00:42:55.849
fit this role. I'm getting us into kick -ass

00:42:55.849 --> 00:43:00.530
people. Yeah, yeah. Let's see. Oh, I got to look.

00:43:00.809 --> 00:43:03.329
Yeah, you can explain it. Like, what have you

00:43:03.329 --> 00:43:07.889
seen? What have you seen them in? Yeah. So let

00:43:07.889 --> 00:43:11.489
me. Oh, no. Now my brain feels like I can't do

00:43:11.489 --> 00:43:13.269
anything. I was going to type this thing. It's

00:43:13.269 --> 00:43:17.210
like Emily Blunt. We say Emily Blunt a lot, too.

00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:20.139
No, I don't think so. I don't think, you know,

00:43:20.179 --> 00:43:23.579
again, it it's it's our fantasy. You know what

00:43:23.579 --> 00:43:29.900
I mean? I like I like getting myself out of.

00:43:31.539 --> 00:43:34.519
Oh, all right. I think I have a couple of suggestions.

00:43:34.739 --> 00:43:38.500
Yes. Kirstie Alley. OK, I can see it. I was going

00:43:38.500 --> 00:43:41.739
to suggest the movie Sucker Punch. Love it or

00:43:41.739 --> 00:43:44.380
hate it. I think the lead actresses in it are

00:43:44.380 --> 00:43:46.920
all phenomenal. They're all definitely like.

00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:49.079
The movie, if you love it or hate it, I don't

00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:51.500
really care. Draw from it as you will. But I

00:43:51.500 --> 00:43:53.500
think Emily Browning would be really fun. And

00:43:53.500 --> 00:43:57.559
if not her, I think Abby Cornish would be the

00:43:57.559 --> 00:43:59.679
person here. Oh, I know who Abby Cornish is.

00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:04.099
She's in... What is wrong with me? She's also

00:44:04.099 --> 00:44:07.340
on Limitless. Yeah. She's in Geostorm. She is

00:44:07.340 --> 00:44:09.659
in Geostorm. You are correct. I think she would

00:44:09.659 --> 00:44:13.599
be a great actress for this role. I think she

00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:17.010
would be. She has that toughness. About her but

00:44:17.010 --> 00:44:19.510
also like she can pull that night tivity off.

00:44:19.710 --> 00:44:21.949
I feel yeah, and she looks like a Larry to me

00:44:21.949 --> 00:44:25.429
Let's do Abby Cornish Abby Cornish. That's we're

00:44:25.429 --> 00:44:27.570
gonna call up your agent Abby and this movie's

00:44:27.570 --> 00:44:29.550
going to production I can't believe how long

00:44:29.550 --> 00:44:31.969
it took to get us to our main character 28 minutes

00:44:31.969 --> 00:44:34.710
left, but we did it and We're low on character.

00:44:34.710 --> 00:44:36.690
We were low on care. We had to figure out the

00:44:36.690 --> 00:44:39.010
story that we want to tell yeah, and I again

00:44:39.010 --> 00:44:42.590
I like the idea of this world that's been inhabited

00:44:42.590 --> 00:44:47.449
over inhabited right and this bunker system.

00:44:47.909 --> 00:44:51.550
Everybody is just like backyard bunkers and they

00:44:51.550 --> 00:44:54.309
got to find them. All right. Cannibal marauders.

00:44:54.789 --> 00:44:57.610
Yes. Got it. That's like the last one we run

00:44:57.610 --> 00:44:59.210
into. Right. Like this is like she's fleeing

00:44:59.210 --> 00:45:01.170
from them. Like this is where she finds how about

00:45:01.170 --> 00:45:05.429
somebody kind. Could there be a like like some

00:45:05.429 --> 00:45:09.519
like There's a hint that things are going well

00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:12.440
uh -huh with the and it's not like the end of

00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:14.159
Star Trek the motion picture But that you have

00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:17.800
to fuck a tree for things to go well But there's

00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:20.300
a certain balance that's been re restored with

00:45:20.300 --> 00:45:23.559
nature and maybe uh -huh not saying there's tree

00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:28.960
fucking Like they're kind of green or something

00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:33.880
this this like like You know, that are maybe

00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:36.340
their lore. They got through the thing well.

00:45:36.340 --> 00:45:38.900
They understood what it was. They have wisdom.

00:45:39.179 --> 00:45:41.300
I know you're talking like you, you want there

00:45:41.300 --> 00:45:43.539
to be some mutant folks for sure. But on the

00:45:43.539 --> 00:45:45.820
good side, you want some good mute who are kind

00:45:45.820 --> 00:45:48.019
of like, maybe they're nuts. Maybe they're all

00:45:48.019 --> 00:45:50.699
like just attached to shit. Oh, like, oh, like

00:45:50.699 --> 00:45:53.679
nature subsumed them entirely. There's a, there's

00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:55.780
a whole town of people that are just like, you

00:45:55.780 --> 00:45:58.199
know, flying Dutchman from Pirates of the Caribbean.

00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.360
Like they're all just stuck to buildings. Yeah.

00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:02.940
That'd be terrifying to walk through. That's

00:46:02.940 --> 00:46:05.000
really cool. But like, they're all still like

00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.079
semi -conscious. Yes. That'd be freaky. That's

00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:09.619
a really fun concept. All right. The leader of

00:46:09.619 --> 00:46:12.039
that, it's not Bill Nighy. We can't call him

00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:14.539
because he's already that. No, he's already reserved.

00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:18.000
I feel like, again, I feel it feels like it should

00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:20.679
be a female. I'm going to suggest Gina Torres.

00:46:21.279 --> 00:46:23.079
As the, like, I don't think you see any voices.

00:46:23.099 --> 00:46:27.579
I think it needs to be a voice. Like, none of

00:46:27.579 --> 00:46:30.480
these faces or humans that are subsumed by nature

00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:33.139
have any faces, but like kind of hive mindy in

00:46:33.139 --> 00:46:35.099
that sense. And like, she just, like, she's the

00:46:35.099 --> 00:46:38.039
voice of them. Yeah. Well, can we get Alan Tudyk

00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:41.159
in as a voice for fun here anyway? Okay. Please.

00:46:41.260 --> 00:46:45.559
Can he be our cannibal guy? Oh, bad guy? Yes.

00:46:45.980 --> 00:46:48.699
Live action? Please. Holy fuck, yeah. Are you

00:46:48.699 --> 00:46:51.159
serious? Yes. I love Alan Tudyk. Well, now we

00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:53.400
have a nice little way that we could just pilfer

00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:55.820
from. Yeah. Now we're just going to steal all

00:46:55.820 --> 00:46:57.980
the firefly grass. No. What's Nathan Villian

00:46:57.980 --> 00:46:59.940
going to play? I was going to suggest Jule State,

00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:02.719
but, you know, Nathan's great too. All right.

00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:05.300
Alan Tudyk playing against type as a really,

00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:07.739
really, really, really, really gnarly. Evil.

00:47:08.219 --> 00:47:12.539
Whatever type of. Unhinged. Unhinged. But I like

00:47:12.539 --> 00:47:16.769
Gina Torres as the because. She's tough. Yes,

00:47:16.789 --> 00:47:19.070
Zoe. But if you see her in other things, she

00:47:19.070 --> 00:47:23.170
does have like when she speaks. In a softer way,

00:47:23.170 --> 00:47:26.429
it's when she definitely has that matrony like

00:47:26.429 --> 00:47:28.389
feel about her, but it's like, no, no, I'll kill

00:47:28.389 --> 00:47:30.510
you if I need. And matter of fact, yes, too.

00:47:30.610 --> 00:47:34.489
Yes, I think she hits that. That's there. They're

00:47:34.489 --> 00:47:38.909
all weird and like, yes. And she's she's a firm

00:47:38.909 --> 00:47:41.010
like they can't tell her anything about where

00:47:41.010 --> 00:47:42.650
this shit is because they're like, oh, yeah,

00:47:42.690 --> 00:47:45.559
sure. We don't know maps. You got it all wrong.

00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:50.199
Maps are Gargon. You need to ascend. Yes. You

00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:54.059
need to join us. Like Earth would be better if

00:47:54.059 --> 00:47:56.440
you joined us. I don't want to be mortar. I don't

00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:59.300
want to be a building. I'm going to just keep

00:47:59.300 --> 00:48:04.519
stepping. Just like twinkle toes. Yeah. So like

00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:06.440
I think that this hive mind, they're not necessarily

00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:07.940
evil. They're just like they don't understand

00:48:07.940 --> 00:48:09.800
why people don't want to join them. And it doesn't

00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:12.340
want to join them. Like this is it. We figured

00:48:12.340 --> 00:48:14.840
it out. We figured out this is how You want peace?

00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:16.960
We've achieved peace. There's no more death.

00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:19.539
And maybe that's OK. This is really nerdy, but

00:48:19.539 --> 00:48:22.860
that's just all she perceives them as. Your mind

00:48:22.860 --> 00:48:26.880
can't like we are. We aren't what you see. Yeah,

00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:28.960
we're all together. You just this is the only

00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:31.559
thing that you're living in is a fake reality.

00:48:31.820 --> 00:48:34.340
Come join us in the real one. Yeah. And again,

00:48:34.380 --> 00:48:35.780
you can play with that however you want, but

00:48:35.780 --> 00:48:38.119
it's kind of fun. Like your mind can only construct

00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.260
so much. And this is what you can figure it out.

00:48:40.380 --> 00:48:42.860
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's Gina Torres.

00:48:43.019 --> 00:48:46.000
Gina Torres. As the leader of this hive mind.

00:48:46.739 --> 00:48:52.159
Yeah, I call them nature absorbed. That's pretty

00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.800
stupid. The subsumed. I'm calling them the subsumed.

00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:59.079
Subsumed? Yeah. What does that mean? It's kind

00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:00.980
of like consumed. It's kind of like consumed.

00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:04.519
But yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at us using the nerdy

00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:07.380
language. If it's not a word, that's OK. We're

00:49:07.380 --> 00:49:08.739
going to put it on a t -shirt anyway and it'll

00:49:08.739 --> 00:49:10.590
become a word. We can do that. That's a good

00:49:10.590 --> 00:49:14.469
t -shirt. One of the subsumed. Ben subsumed.

00:49:14.670 --> 00:49:16.170
Needs to have like a bunch of vines and flowers

00:49:16.170 --> 00:49:19.250
on it, of course. If we can have some flashbacks.

00:49:19.349 --> 00:49:21.690
We need a villain. Like more than Alan Tudyk,

00:49:21.849 --> 00:49:26.389
I think. Oh, of course. And I liked your idea

00:49:26.389 --> 00:49:30.789
of trying to communicate some of the narrative

00:49:30.789 --> 00:49:33.780
through like that last, you know. Reporting out

00:49:33.780 --> 00:49:35.860
on the bunkers. If you haven't reported in, blah,

00:49:36.019 --> 00:49:37.980
blah, blah. We need to know for counts. But like

00:49:37.980 --> 00:49:40.019
it gives you enough for context and you could

00:49:40.019 --> 00:49:45.260
get more. But could there be a call back to like

00:49:45.260 --> 00:49:49.619
we've seen Larry before and Larry's bad like

00:49:49.619 --> 00:49:52.539
Larry's not a good guy. Like, are you thinking

00:49:52.539 --> 00:49:55.639
like Snowpiercer where like interesting way?

00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:57.360
Yeah, he's kind of characters like I'm trying

00:49:57.360 --> 00:49:59.039
to save the world. But like by trying to save

00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:01.840
me, of course. Yeah, I saved the world like Like

00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:05.079
that kind of system has to turn out to sacrifice

00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.340
herself. Turns out the guy that was like, hey,

00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:09.420
I'm going to build all these bunkers and like,

00:50:09.420 --> 00:50:11.780
you know, for the world's survival is actually

00:50:11.780 --> 00:50:14.059
like he's actually living in this last bunker

00:50:14.059 --> 00:50:16.639
that nobody's found. Well, no, I think he's just

00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.599
like either either way. But like the point is,

00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:23.739
he's cowardly hiding out or whatever. But he's

00:50:23.739 --> 00:50:27.840
created this false promise, like one last betrayal.

00:50:28.139 --> 00:50:32.019
OK. I'm still writing maybe he's maybe and we

00:50:32.019 --> 00:50:34.280
can we can create a world where he's doing like

00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:36.559
weird gnarly shit or something like trying to

00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:40.539
bastardize the process or it's just like thank

00:50:40.539 --> 00:50:43.239
goodness you saved me oh yeah yeah where he's

00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:46.219
like like I don't really mean that yeah you're

00:50:46.219 --> 00:50:48.639
a thing and then there's a choice to be made

00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.739
okay you know who do you imagine is a big bad

00:50:51.739 --> 00:50:54.320
who do you want who's Larry somebody buried Larry

00:50:55.539 --> 00:50:57.760
And again, we can have some turns out the Abby

00:50:57.760 --> 00:50:59.619
Cornish's character isn't Larry and she's the

00:50:59.619 --> 00:51:04.460
one who buries Larry's Larry's the bad guy Larry

00:51:04.460 --> 00:51:07.019
well, yeah for sacrifice needs to be made. It's

00:51:07.019 --> 00:51:10.099
Larry. Yeah I like the idea that Larry's not

00:51:10.099 --> 00:51:12.719
like he's not benevolent like a little bit of

00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.440
switcheroo. Did you say what did you say earlier

00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:18.840
snowpiercer? Yeah Snowpiercer, the show. Ed Harris

00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:20.900
at the... Oh. Same guy, same character. I've

00:51:20.900 --> 00:51:23.199
not seen the show. Okay, so Sean Bean is in the

00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:25.420
show. Sorry for spoilers. And that's the character

00:51:25.420 --> 00:51:27.940
at the front of the train. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:28.300 --> 00:51:32.539
What's the rub in that again? He is just at the

00:51:32.539 --> 00:51:34.639
head, right? Just created it and just lives it.

00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:36.579
This is the only way that we're going to do it.

00:51:36.980 --> 00:51:40.579
And there's always class systems. And if you

00:51:40.579 --> 00:51:43.079
don't embrace the system, then everything falls

00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:45.659
apart. Everything. So his old mantra is like...

00:51:45.579 --> 00:51:47.639
It's a train and everything needs to work on

00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:50.340
a train. So if everybody has a place on the train,

00:51:50.500 --> 00:51:52.880
well, we have those in the tail who aren't part

00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.360
of the system. We need to get rid of them. Right.

00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:58.219
And like it's all it's a giant metaphor for immigrants

00:51:58.219 --> 00:52:00.400
and class standards. And of course it is because

00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:02.780
what else would it be about? But and you could

00:52:02.780 --> 00:52:05.460
have areas where like it looked like we tried

00:52:05.460 --> 00:52:08.750
to do stuff and nature just. screwed us up. We

00:52:08.750 --> 00:52:11.030
tried to make us no piercer. I love the idea

00:52:11.030 --> 00:52:12.949
of there being like a fort, like a giant, you

00:52:12.949 --> 00:52:14.949
know, like a legit like military installation

00:52:14.949 --> 00:52:16.829
where it looks like everything was burned out.

00:52:17.170 --> 00:52:18.889
Like they're literally trying to burn the forest

00:52:18.889 --> 00:52:22.150
back. We don't know how, but nothing co -op because

00:52:22.150 --> 00:52:25.150
in order to build or do anything like nature

00:52:25.150 --> 00:52:27.829
does have to cooperate. If it decides not to,

00:52:27.869 --> 00:52:30.619
it all turns. everything would be harder. I think

00:52:30.619 --> 00:52:34.119
this movie looks very similar, not like shot

00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:35.480
for shot, but it definitely looks like the Planet

00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:37.500
of the Apes, the most the kingdom of the Planet

00:52:37.500 --> 00:52:39.460
of the Apes that came out a few years ago. I

00:52:39.460 --> 00:52:42.059
love them all. I think that like this post -apocalypse

00:52:42.059 --> 00:52:44.300
of like, hey, like things exist, but like nature

00:52:44.300 --> 00:52:47.219
is definitely one back is the predominant theme

00:52:47.219 --> 00:52:50.420
of this film. So do we have any kind of mutated

00:52:50.420 --> 00:52:53.420
animal threat? Do we have just regular animal

00:52:53.420 --> 00:52:56.599
threats? I like what is your what is your interest

00:52:56.599 --> 00:53:00.059
level? I think the answer to both is yes, and

00:53:00.059 --> 00:53:03.099
I'm down for either. Mutate just means that it's

00:53:03.099 --> 00:53:05.440
something that we haven't seen. So if it's far

00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:07.619
enough in the future, what a mutant animal would

00:53:07.619 --> 00:53:11.239
just be an animal to them. Right. But things

00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:15.260
would have evolved. I'm kind of wondering what's

00:53:15.260 --> 00:53:21.920
interesting about how they could evolve. To be

00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:24.739
more and to have maybe learned from their mistakes

00:53:24.739 --> 00:53:29.039
in the past to not become subservient I'll be

00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:31.119
honest with you I don't know if I can out think

00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:33.179
nature for how they would evolve because nature

00:53:33.179 --> 00:53:35.099
is too good at that stuff We are assuming quite

00:53:35.099 --> 00:53:37.079
a lot. Yeah, I don't know what I could figure

00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:39.300
out the nature wouldn't already have done, right?

00:53:39.300 --> 00:53:41.730
I'm just wondering if like plants and animals

00:53:41.730 --> 00:53:44.150
would integrate more together. Like, plants would

00:53:44.150 --> 00:53:46.449
start, animals would start popping out of the

00:53:46.449 --> 00:53:48.989
ground, out of the dirt. Those things would be

00:53:48.989 --> 00:53:52.190
fun to do. I just imagine me trying to come up

00:53:52.190 --> 00:53:56.469
with some appendage or some feature that a creature

00:53:56.469 --> 00:53:58.829
has that you've never seen before seems kind

00:53:58.829 --> 00:54:00.909
of out there that I can't do. Let's hyper -focus

00:54:00.909 --> 00:54:05.690
on this. The mutant hippo people. I'm serious.

00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:09.719
Now, you have this wild idea, and let's run with

00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:11.300
it. I'm down. I'm down. Because the hippos get

00:54:11.300 --> 00:54:16.579
into the Amazon, and it's ruined. And OK, let's

00:54:16.579 --> 00:54:19.500
add a little tragedy to this thing. Even in nature's

00:54:19.500 --> 00:54:21.280
grand plan to take over the world, it didn't

00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:26.460
go perfect. And one nuclear whatever was not

00:54:26.460 --> 00:54:28.760
whatever, disposed of properly, and it created

00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:31.440
a mutation. Turns out somebody tried to nuke

00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:33.500
the hippos and the hippos shouldn't have been

00:54:33.500 --> 00:54:36.000
there and it's one of like the last things and

00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:38.579
like God you fucking blew it, but I love I love

00:54:38.579 --> 00:54:40.639
it and only if we have this as like little like

00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:42.760
Easter eggs scattered throughout the world turns

00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:46.739
out we knew the Amazon nature's plant No, I'm

00:54:46.739 --> 00:54:51.099
saying like in its return to whatever. Yeah all

00:54:51.099 --> 00:54:54.699
of the shit that we did It still was like nature

00:54:54.699 --> 00:54:58.159
still where thing didn't go perfectly They let

00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:00.739
some kind of sludge or waste get somewhere and

00:55:00.739 --> 00:55:04.420
it mutated some hippos. I'm down. But only if

00:55:04.420 --> 00:55:06.820
we like we have to show we have to show them

00:55:06.820 --> 00:55:08.239
and then we have to show a fight. Then they've

00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:11.940
had offspring. Of course. And then they've made

00:55:11.940 --> 00:55:17.900
it with dogs. Many dog hippo. That's what we

00:55:17.900 --> 00:55:19.980
are. We've come to. I don't know. I don't know

00:55:19.980 --> 00:55:21.659
if that's the lie I want to take, but you want

00:55:21.659 --> 00:55:24.239
a bunch of mutant hippos running around as a

00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:26.679
nuisance animal. And I'm OK with that. I want

00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:31.210
to be small and fast. It's a sci -fi post -apocalypse.

00:55:31.210 --> 00:55:33.429
We could do whatever we want, Ryan. But I do

00:55:33.429 --> 00:55:35.309
like the idea of there being mutant animals out

00:55:35.309 --> 00:55:37.329
and about inside this apocalypse. Whatever that

00:55:37.329 --> 00:55:38.849
looks like. Whatever it looks like. And have

00:55:38.849 --> 00:55:41.210
some fun with that, whoever makes this movie.

00:55:41.269 --> 00:55:42.909
Hopefully. Yeah. We need to find a good creature

00:55:42.909 --> 00:55:45.070
designer. We'll call up Geiger. Phil Tippett,

00:55:45.230 --> 00:55:47.409
I'd like maybe to do some practical stuff. Definitely

00:55:47.409 --> 00:55:49.809
practical creatures, please. Gina Torres does

00:55:49.809 --> 00:55:52.269
have to come in for a few days to get bolted

00:55:52.269 --> 00:55:54.949
to a building. Yeah, yeah. So we can... You know,

00:55:54.969 --> 00:55:56.690
it's not all going to be CG. We can't afford

00:55:56.690 --> 00:55:58.769
that, probably. Well, maybe we can. Maybe we

00:55:58.769 --> 00:56:01.550
can. But it depends on who we get to direct this.

00:56:01.869 --> 00:56:04.730
You don't want Terry Gilliam. Who do you want?

00:56:05.150 --> 00:56:08.550
I think Terry Gilliam is great. I think he's

00:56:08.550 --> 00:56:13.269
great. If he's known for being intentionally

00:56:13.269 --> 00:56:17.250
weird. Yeah. Is he too weird of a director for

00:56:17.250 --> 00:56:19.849
this movie in this tone that you want? Probably.

00:56:20.090 --> 00:56:22.409
OK, I agree with you. I think he'd be fun and

00:56:22.409 --> 00:56:24.719
he could do it. He would definitely. have the

00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:26.679
skills to do it. He did 12 monkeys. Like, you've

00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:28.440
got to remember, like, he can do the series.

00:56:28.460 --> 00:56:31.699
Yeah, it's just 12 monkeys still absolutely bonkers.

00:56:31.739 --> 00:56:35.579
It is. So if not him, I'd love to hire him and

00:56:35.579 --> 00:56:38.000
be like, you can't go too crazy. But then that'd

00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:40.900
be a waste of a Terry Gilliam. Yeah, you can't

00:56:40.900 --> 00:56:42.539
you can't rein him in. So you got to find somebody

00:56:42.539 --> 00:56:44.659
that you actually think will fit the wheelhouse.

00:56:45.019 --> 00:56:47.480
So because I don't want to rein in my my writer

00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:50.880
director on this. Yeah. And the idea that this

00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:55.090
is something that needs to feel kind of big would

00:56:55.090 --> 00:56:57.309
be, Oh, you're going to, you're going to fucking

00:56:57.309 --> 00:57:00.789
shit yourself. I hope not. Well, the movie that

00:57:00.789 --> 00:57:03.309
I was talking about hidden, I just looked up

00:57:03.309 --> 00:57:05.730
who did it and it was written and directed by

00:57:05.730 --> 00:57:10.429
Matt and Ross Duffer. Was it really? So the,

00:57:10.570 --> 00:57:13.530
you know, I remember how I'm telling you serendipities.

00:57:13.610 --> 00:57:15.610
So can we have the Duffer brothers write and

00:57:15.610 --> 00:57:18.110
direct this please? We could be pretty good.

00:57:18.949 --> 00:57:22.309
That's pretty fucking crazy. Anyway, let me hold

00:57:22.309 --> 00:57:25.889
on. There's a movie. I was the Why can't I remember?

00:57:25.889 --> 00:57:27.989
I need to be better with some of the you know

00:57:27.989 --> 00:57:32.309
some of you know, like Some of the more prominent

00:57:32.309 --> 00:57:36.230
newer directors because this thing could be very

00:57:36.230 --> 00:57:39.530
small. You know what I mean? Oh, yes I'm sorry.

00:57:39.550 --> 00:57:42.690
I'm trying to find this Spielberg You know if

00:57:42.690 --> 00:57:44.929
we could get it if we get Spielberg or George

00:57:44.929 --> 00:57:48.880
Lucas in his prime to do a smaller bigger post

00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:52.860
-apocalyptic movie. I could see that. Oh, what

00:57:52.860 --> 00:57:55.840
about having Kevin Costner direct it? Oh, he

00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:59.260
definitely knows how to direct it. For sure.

00:57:59.880 --> 00:58:02.300
I was looking up. Remember the movie Love and

00:58:02.300 --> 00:58:05.119
Monsters? Oh, yeah. We talked about this before.

00:58:05.380 --> 00:58:07.159
I feel like I just didn't know the director who

00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:10.420
did that. I was looking about Michael Matthews.

00:58:10.420 --> 00:58:11.880
I'm looking up his other stuff. If he's done

00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:16.070
anything like. we would know. Yes, I think Michael

00:58:16.070 --> 00:58:19.409
Matthews would be great. He's only done three

00:58:19.409 --> 00:58:22.449
or two feature films, Five Fingers for Marcel's,

00:58:22.550 --> 00:58:24.570
Love and Monsters, and upcoming is... Well, this

00:58:24.570 --> 00:58:28.070
is essentially a light remake of Love and Monsters

00:58:28.070 --> 00:58:31.730
in a way. Just our way. Just our way. I feel

00:58:31.730 --> 00:58:33.750
like he could do it. Yeah, I think he'd be great.

00:58:34.349 --> 00:58:36.949
So Michael Matthews has our director. I liked

00:58:36.949 --> 00:58:40.610
the idea of rolling with Terry Gilliam was fun

00:58:40.610 --> 00:58:43.150
because it would be really weird. It would be

00:58:43.150 --> 00:58:46.690
really weird, but maybe not relatable. We could

00:58:46.690 --> 00:58:49.010
do George Lucas a la Willow style. You know,

00:58:49.030 --> 00:58:53.829
he could do it. Oh, hell yeah. Ron Howard, Ron

00:58:53.829 --> 00:58:56.530
Howard to shoot the shit out of this movie. Yeah,

00:58:56.530 --> 00:58:59.190
it would. It would be big. It would look. I am

00:58:59.190 --> 00:59:01.809
not. You know, I like the idea of Kevin Costner

00:59:01.809 --> 00:59:04.300
or Mel Gibson. Do you think Mel Gibson would

00:59:04.300 --> 00:59:07.239
make this movie? Small, big and small. Yeah,

00:59:07.340 --> 00:59:09.639
he would definitely hit the big and small, but

00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:11.960
yeah, I, it's not enough blood and guts for Mel

00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:14.599
Gibson. No, I think Michael Matthews is great.

00:59:14.659 --> 00:59:17.099
I'm just trying to think. It's like, would, would

00:59:17.099 --> 00:59:19.579
Mel Gibson make this movie? No, I don't think

00:59:19.579 --> 00:59:21.599
he would. I mean, he put some religious symbolism.

00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:23.539
It would definitely be too religious and there'd

00:59:23.539 --> 00:59:26.730
be way more blood and guts. Now that I don't

00:59:26.730 --> 00:59:28.849
want blood and guts there just be more blood

00:59:28.849 --> 00:59:32.610
and got that stuff, you know He's not afraid

00:59:32.610 --> 00:59:35.090
of it the prince and the madman or the you know,

00:59:35.090 --> 00:59:36.610
the what -have -you and that what have you did

00:59:36.610 --> 00:59:41.269
he direct that I yeah, I Sean Penn the professor

00:59:41.269 --> 00:59:43.929
and the madman about the oh did he direct making

00:59:43.929 --> 00:59:46.670
of the dictionary He might have that movie was

00:59:46.670 --> 00:59:49.110
not bad. It was not what I liked it. I thought

00:59:49.110 --> 00:59:51.429
it was super fun Yeah, I didn't know that story.

00:59:51.469 --> 00:59:53.190
I didn't know that story. That was a very interesting

00:59:53.190 --> 00:59:56.369
story. But take away. It takes forever. It takes

00:59:56.369 --> 01:00:00.090
a long time. Well, the old version. Let's be

01:00:00.090 --> 01:00:02.449
real here. Jesus. Oh, my gosh. How much time

01:00:02.449 --> 01:00:04.769
do we have left to find this tag? I have 12 minutes

01:00:04.769 --> 01:00:07.150
left. This sounds like we're pretty good at that.

01:00:07.170 --> 01:00:08.550
We come up with the last 10 minutes. Usually

01:00:08.550 --> 01:00:14.250
this is a fun idea. I like this very Larry. Alan

01:00:14.250 --> 01:00:17.269
Tudyk, Bruce Campbell is Larry, right? Then we

01:00:17.269 --> 01:00:19.849
talk about him being the bad. Yes. So Bruce Campbell

01:00:19.849 --> 01:00:21.969
as Larry. All right. So what about this? What

01:00:21.969 --> 01:00:25.010
if Alan Tudyk is like a long lost descendant

01:00:25.010 --> 01:00:27.369
of Larry? Like Larry's been living in this bunker

01:00:27.369 --> 01:00:30.610
forever. Oh, so an empathetic marauding cannibal?

01:00:30.789 --> 01:00:32.309
No, he's not. No empathy. I don't want to give

01:00:32.309 --> 01:00:34.570
him empathy. He's tied to, it just turns out

01:00:34.570 --> 01:00:38.519
like, you know. Larry here buried himself inside

01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:41.280
of his bunker. Yeah, had a kid and like his kids

01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:43.059
had kids and like he didn't let his kid into

01:00:43.059 --> 01:00:45.000
the bunker and so like his family lived outside

01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:47.760
the bunker. So that's why like Alan Tudyk is

01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:50.019
like his long lost descendant. And it's like

01:00:50.019 --> 01:00:53.139
the origin of the reverse. Yeah, that's great.

01:00:53.179 --> 01:00:55.840
Love it. All right. All right. I like the relation

01:00:55.840 --> 01:01:00.880
long lost descendants of later on. Yeah, my notes

01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:04.059
are not going to make any sense, but hope that's

01:01:04.059 --> 01:01:07.690
all right. That's okay. We gave piece of chance.

01:01:08.590 --> 01:01:11.050
I mean, that could be it. We gave piece of chance.

01:01:11.650 --> 01:01:14.469
I agree. It could definitely be the tagline.

01:01:14.489 --> 01:01:15.630
Let's see if we can come up some others though.

01:01:15.650 --> 01:01:17.929
Just come curious. That's not the only one. That's

01:01:17.929 --> 01:01:20.909
not the end. I'll be all that's got to be. That's

01:01:20.909 --> 01:01:24.510
got to be one already. Oh, yeah. For sure. Alien

01:01:24.510 --> 01:01:27.349
movie. I'm not sure. I mean, the premise that

01:01:27.349 --> 01:01:32.389
we're advancing is that this intense coffee war

01:01:33.289 --> 01:01:35.909
And then, you know, the drug lords get involved,

01:01:36.010 --> 01:01:39.449
governments, what have you, created this really

01:01:39.449 --> 01:01:44.449
intense sped up need to try to bond with the

01:01:44.449 --> 01:01:46.809
environment more. And the hippies got more traction

01:01:46.809 --> 01:01:49.449
and hippos became people. And then all of a sudden,

01:01:49.929 --> 01:01:54.130
forests became uber protected and had the right

01:01:54.130 --> 01:01:58.889
to vote. And then nature was like, now is our

01:01:58.889 --> 01:02:02.460
time. I love it. All right. So the idea. that

01:02:02.460 --> 01:02:07.940
we got this bunker living. And I think we leaned

01:02:07.940 --> 01:02:10.739
on kind of a happy ending. Like there's a sacrifice.

01:02:10.820 --> 01:02:13.900
That's how we get back into Larry. And there's

01:02:13.900 --> 01:02:16.440
an indication of how Larry dies. There's an indication

01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:18.579
that like we might be able to start rebuilding

01:02:18.579 --> 01:02:20.480
again. Yeah, it turns out Larry's bunker had

01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:22.699
like all the stuff necessary to actually rebuild

01:02:22.699 --> 01:02:25.659
the site. You just didn't want to do it and what

01:02:25.659 --> 01:02:30.360
have you. What? Yeah. Yeah. This poster. Yeah.

01:02:30.619 --> 01:02:33.119
What do you want? Is insane in my head. I want

01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:35.559
to hear the insane poster. Well, no, I just think

01:02:35.559 --> 01:02:38.840
of how many different ways it could go. You know,

01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:42.469
I kind of see it. neutral background kind of

01:02:42.469 --> 01:02:44.469
split with a V and you could see the different

01:02:44.469 --> 01:02:46.869
areas of decay and she's walking through the

01:02:46.869 --> 01:02:49.570
middle. Okay. You know, so it's not like super

01:02:49.570 --> 01:02:52.110
scary, but in the in the V's is what you could

01:02:52.110 --> 01:02:54.329
see all that crazy shit. And she's just walking.

01:02:54.369 --> 01:02:56.190
Kind of like a Venn diagram of all the. It's

01:02:56.190 --> 01:02:58.130
kind of like the color of this room. Okay. And

01:02:58.130 --> 01:03:01.170
then a V with all different colors of shit on

01:03:01.170 --> 01:03:03.829
either side. Who's a because obviously we got

01:03:03.829 --> 01:03:08.179
like so. Abby carnage doesn't we give her character

01:03:08.179 --> 01:03:09.739
a name her character needs a name want to give

01:03:09.739 --> 01:03:11.239
her name which we need to give her a name real

01:03:11.239 --> 01:03:13.440
quick because I think she definitely needs to

01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:15.940
have Like an interaction with the whoever the

01:03:15.940 --> 01:03:17.739
gatekeeper is that's kicking her out like on

01:03:17.739 --> 01:03:20.119
her scouting mission or somebody There's got

01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:21.880
to be somebody there and obviously it's Billy

01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:24.219
Zane and Billy Zane is like alright. Well good

01:03:24.219 --> 01:03:28.019
luck out there. Oh Like leader of the maybe not

01:03:28.019 --> 01:03:29.719
leader, but like you know gatekeeper or like

01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:31.739
you know just like hey it's my job to open the

01:03:31.739 --> 01:03:34.300
gate up and You know, you get hurt. Oh, you know

01:03:34.300 --> 01:03:37.019
what? He could be seen in flashback to easily

01:03:37.019 --> 01:03:39.619
because you could have other people like Bruce

01:03:39.619 --> 01:03:41.739
Campbell needs to be established. Oh, like he's

01:03:41.739 --> 01:03:43.940
a friend. Like he's he's the assistant. You know

01:03:43.940 --> 01:03:45.659
what I mean? Oh, I like Billy Zane's assistant.

01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:49.099
Yeah, that's his Igor. Billy Zane is his Igor.

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Does Larry last minute ad does Larry have a kid

01:03:52.219 --> 01:03:56.340
in there? In there with him, like he's got like

01:03:56.340 --> 01:03:59.579
a clone version of him or like a child like there's

01:03:59.579 --> 01:04:02.199
a kid involved. Make it a little extra complicated.

01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:05.280
Is it his kid? Yeah. Or is it just he has a child

01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:07.059
and he doesn't say anything? Like we don't we

01:04:07.059 --> 01:04:08.900
don't actually acknowledge the child in the room.

01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:10.699
There's just a child in the room. Like she's

01:04:10.699 --> 01:04:13.079
got to take it at the end. I don't know if I

01:04:13.079 --> 01:04:15.400
need I don't know if we necessarily need to do

01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:18.599
it. I could see it. The symbolism alone is like,

01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:20.760
look, he was holding the world hostage and she

01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:23.320
saved the new world. Like I could see it. I see

01:04:23.320 --> 01:04:26.739
it. I get it. Do I need it? Do I want it? So

01:04:26.739 --> 01:04:29.179
the idea of this movie is the journey, right?

01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:31.159
There's a betrayal at the end that you hide.

01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:36.340
So the tagline, and we promised some return.

01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:42.840
You know, imbalance restored. Yeah, I think imbalance

01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:45.219
restored. That's a good one. Imbalance restored.

01:04:45.340 --> 01:04:49.239
Somebody buried Larry. You can always just do

01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:51.260
dig here. I mean, we're talking about bunkers

01:04:51.260 --> 01:04:53.920
and whatnot. Somebody buried Larry. Dig here.

01:04:55.920 --> 01:05:01.900
Interesting. Dig here. Egor. Sorry, I'm writing

01:05:01.900 --> 01:05:05.019
down the Egor character. Dig here. See, you like

01:05:05.019 --> 01:05:07.579
to see, it's fascinating, you like to see how

01:05:07.579 --> 01:05:10.599
they go together. I do. I want the tagline and

01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:12.980
the title to kind of mesh in some way, shape,

01:05:13.159 --> 01:05:15.019
or form. They don't need to, but I think it helps

01:05:15.019 --> 01:05:19.159
sell it. Somebody buried Larry. Bring a shovel.

01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:22.510
And you wonder. Bring a shovel. But this is a

01:05:22.510 --> 01:05:26.269
serious apocalyptic movie, right? Yeah. So we

01:05:26.269 --> 01:05:29.409
have. OK. Well, our problem is we've we've created

01:05:29.409 --> 01:05:31.889
a marketing pickle. We've for ourselves. Our

01:05:31.889 --> 01:05:36.630
title is funny. Yeah. Our premise is not. It's

01:05:36.630 --> 01:05:38.269
definitely we can have some humor. I didn't want

01:05:38.269 --> 01:05:40.530
we don't want to post apocalypse to be funny.

01:05:40.530 --> 01:05:42.869
Who wants that? We we could. That's like if you

01:05:42.869 --> 01:05:45.110
go if you went with imbalance restored, that

01:05:45.110 --> 01:05:47.110
makes it a little serious. Yeah, I could see

01:05:47.110 --> 01:05:50.710
in balance. They hear me. Definitely is funny.

01:05:50.710 --> 01:05:54.289
I could definitely. I don't know. So if we're

01:05:54.289 --> 01:05:56.730
trying to create seriousness out of the movie,

01:05:56.949 --> 01:05:59.309
the tagline should probably have to be a little.

01:05:59.309 --> 01:06:04.329
Yeah, a little more. Maybe more somber. But again.

01:06:06.550 --> 01:06:09.010
I don't like imbalance restored and balance restored

01:06:09.010 --> 01:06:13.630
is because that's the idea. Yeah. And maybe it's

01:06:13.630 --> 01:06:16.039
just catchy enough to work. I think it might

01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:18.119
work in balance restored. I think that's pretty

01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:20.219
good. Because it's not like a joke. It's not

01:06:20.219 --> 01:06:22.199
a joke title. And you're like, oh, somebody buried

01:06:22.199 --> 01:06:26.139
Larry. The poster looks pretty serious. All right.

01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:29.099
I'm interested. And because the idea is she,

01:06:29.099 --> 01:06:30.760
you know, gets to this thing, it's just like

01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:33.699
still pulling shit. Oh, yeah. At the end of the

01:06:33.699 --> 01:06:36.860
world. Yeah, we're still doing this same old

01:06:36.860 --> 01:06:40.659
dog and pony show. And then but along the way,

01:06:40.659 --> 01:06:43.820
thanks to the who's who's and the who's who's.

01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:47.400
Figures out the way to yeah, really restore the

01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:51.360
balance. I like this Abby Cornish, I'm sorry.

01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:53.059
Your character still doesn't have a name. We're

01:06:53.059 --> 01:06:54.500
just calling you. We're gonna call your character

01:06:54.500 --> 01:06:57.340
Abby. I think. Oh, you're oh, yeah. You said

01:06:57.340 --> 01:07:00.119
that. I was like, I didn't come up with a name.

01:07:00.300 --> 01:07:04.219
We moved on. Well, like soundtrack wise, is it

01:07:04.219 --> 01:07:06.980
big? Oh, yeah. We got five minutes. We got to

01:07:06.980 --> 01:07:12.480
have some sweeping scores, right? Well, yeah,

01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:16.019
I think so. I think so. We're talking full orchestra

01:07:16.019 --> 01:07:21.840
here. I feel we got to. Oh, gosh. Well, yeah,

01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:26.000
because if you have fight scenes, if you have.

01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:29.099
Oh, yeah. This is a full on. We're talking. OK.

01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:31.440
It's going to be great. This is a grand film.

01:07:31.639 --> 01:07:33.659
It's a small cast, but a grand film. We don't

01:07:33.659 --> 01:07:36.900
have many named characters. That's a good point.

01:07:37.050 --> 01:07:38.869
It doesn't mean we can't have the fun we want

01:07:38.869 --> 01:07:40.869
to have in a post -apocalyptic movie. But you

01:07:40.869 --> 01:07:42.949
could have some scary stuff too, you know what

01:07:42.949 --> 01:07:45.789
I mean? If we don't have mutant hippos attacking

01:07:45.789 --> 01:07:48.469
a camp or her in some capacity, we're sad. Alright,

01:07:48.590 --> 01:07:51.570
you know what? We're John Williams. I think you,

01:07:51.570 --> 01:07:54.190
I agree with you. John, if we can do anybody,

01:07:54.269 --> 01:07:56.670
if we can do anybody, it wouldn't have to be

01:07:56.670 --> 01:07:59.969
huge, huge, but like a nice iconic score would

01:07:59.969 --> 01:08:02.309
be cool off the top of my head. I can't remember

01:08:02.309 --> 01:08:04.670
it, but who did who did the Lord of the Rings?

01:08:04.809 --> 01:08:07.949
Do you know like who was the composer for the

01:08:07.949 --> 01:08:10.590
Lord of the Rings? It is. I feel like it's a

01:08:10.590 --> 01:08:12.309
big name. I'm going to be mad for not remembering,

01:08:12.309 --> 01:08:15.110
but I feel like the score for that definitely

01:08:15.110 --> 01:08:18.149
feels correct in like same scale. And he's an

01:08:18.149 --> 01:08:20.829
older Howard Shore. I feel like Howard Shore,

01:08:20.949 --> 01:08:23.289
if that's him. I think we've used him before.

01:08:23.649 --> 01:08:25.890
Have we? Yeah. Or we talked about using Enya.

01:08:26.210 --> 01:08:28.069
We definitely talked about using Enya, but I

01:08:28.069 --> 01:08:29.210
don't know if we've used Howard Shore. But John

01:08:29.210 --> 01:08:34.069
Williams could make this, like, serious enough.

01:08:34.130 --> 01:08:36.390
Like, give it some edge. Like, hey, this isn't

01:08:36.390 --> 01:08:41.409
cute. Give it some edge. But sweeping. Creepy.

01:08:41.590 --> 01:08:43.770
Yes, I like when he does creepy like when Indiana

01:08:43.770 --> 01:08:45.770
Jones is going into the cave This definitely

01:08:45.770 --> 01:08:47.689
feels we need to have some creepy vibes Nature

01:08:47.689 --> 01:08:50.090
is scary because if you can set up the Gina Torres

01:08:50.090 --> 01:08:52.729
thing to be fucking terrifying the whole and

01:08:52.729 --> 01:08:57.010
the whole thing is loose there like If done right

01:08:57.010 --> 01:08:59.369
if I was to direct it we show up Abby Cornish

01:08:59.369 --> 01:09:01.890
character shows up at this town that's being

01:09:01.890 --> 01:09:05.289
like consumed by the nature of Gina Torres like

01:09:05.289 --> 01:09:08.869
I'm talking like Dusk like the Sun is setting

01:09:09.210 --> 01:09:11.029
And it's like, oh, it's just a normal everyday

01:09:11.029 --> 01:09:13.850
town. And now we're like, no, let's walk in here.

01:09:13.970 --> 01:09:16.069
Let's see this town. And it's like, no, let's

01:09:16.069 --> 01:09:18.350
be terrifying. Absolutely. Whispering voices

01:09:18.350 --> 01:09:20.470
and stuff. And then tension and release. Yeah.

01:09:21.050 --> 01:09:23.829
Again, second -minute tension, cannibal killers.

01:09:24.109 --> 01:09:26.930
That's good music. Oh, that's going to be some

01:09:26.930 --> 01:09:29.369
fun. All right. I think we did a good job on

01:09:29.369 --> 01:09:32.560
this. I like this. This is a very Larry. We did.

01:09:32.699 --> 01:09:36.319
We buried Larry. Yes. We'd like to share Larry

01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:39.239
with the world if we can. Oh, you know what?

01:09:39.460 --> 01:09:42.760
You know what I mean? We could always done like

01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:44.819
the tagline of like the tomb is open or something

01:09:44.819 --> 01:09:46.979
like that. Somebody buried Larry. The tomb is

01:09:46.979 --> 01:09:49.800
open. Yeah. Tomb for the taking who that's well

01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:53.779
like the idea that that it's a ruse. You know

01:09:53.779 --> 01:09:56.720
what I mean? Yeah. He's he's selling himself

01:09:56.720 --> 01:09:59.630
as something he's not. Yeah. the salvation, the

01:09:59.630 --> 01:10:01.930
last scientist turns out like it's just fucking

01:10:01.930 --> 01:10:05.050
you. Yeah. Oh, I forgot. Your name was Lawrence

01:10:05.050 --> 01:10:11.149
of Arabia. Well, Logan, well done. And anybody

01:10:11.149 --> 01:10:13.609
else who's interested in hearing more of this,

01:10:14.250 --> 01:10:16.569
just give us a pat on the back at a little independent

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01:10:19.970 --> 01:10:23.930
can hear this anywhere. And yeah, Logan, I think

01:10:23.930 --> 01:10:25.510
we should probably maybe just do one of these

01:10:25.510 --> 01:10:27.350
in the. Backyard one of these days. Yeah, we

01:10:27.350 --> 01:10:28.909
should definitely do one of these outside but

01:10:28.909 --> 01:10:31.369
the nature get in there So then janitoris can

01:10:31.369 --> 01:10:35.750
join us until the next time till then See in

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the backyard