Welcome to A Little Unscripted, the show where
we pull a random title, spin a random genre,
and then try to create a film that honestly shouldn't
work, and is impossible, and is way too expensive,
and no one's asking for, but that's the fun,
one idea, one hour, and zero guarantees. Let's
make this thing! Good day, I'm Ryan, and I'm
Logan. And no matter what, we're going to make
a movie today. Yep, today. I don't want to speak
for you, but I think we're excited to do this.
I'm always excited to make a movie. We pregamed
pretty intensely about movies. We made our own.
We did a great job. We did a whole hour of a
movie before we're going to do an hour before
we do a movie. This is absolute dog shit. No,
we wasted that prior. We were crushing. It's
like a tube of toothpaste. We squeezed it all
out before we got the toothbrush down there.
We messed up team. Well, it felt good. I mean,
the idea that that movies generate good conversation
is fun for us. We're talking about James Bond
and that's somebody you could talk to your grandma
about probably in one way. Let's be it's been
what 70 years of James Bond as a film character.
Right. Right. Go on forever. You know what I
mean? We're going to Nobody ever dies, especially
James Bond. This is true. I wonder if we will
be able to, I guess we can, we could do anything.
We can. If we will, we have a character. that
we've previously had in another movie into a
future movie. Ooh, like a little secret easter
egg character. Or like a tie -in universe. Because
we can't get it. We can't make a James Bond,
right? Based on the tenets of this show, we can't
do it. Yeah. I mean, I guess. We could do a spy
movie and then be like, later we get another
movie that feels similar within the vein. I bet
we could. We could accidentally make a little
legacy. But aside, I guess we're just making
little just indie, indie wins. I don't think
it's a bad idea having movies be one -off movies.
I think we live in an age where franchises and
like, you know, sequels and prequels, it's not
that they're bad. It's that they don't let anything
breathe. It's impossible to be like, let's let
this simmer for a minute and hang out for a bit
and then come back to it. And it's just it's
really sad because like there's so many great
stories and like, what if we just hit the conveyor
belt, ramp it to fast mode? Let it hit send.
You said something really prescient. And we've
we dance around this a lot on this show because
on the episodes that we've done, our tendency
is to make it small. We've said this a couple
of times. Like, how about making this in Indie
with maybe a million characters? But like our
budget is whatever we want. We can ask nicely
and they might say yes. There are good stories.
But are there enough good writers? Because we
talk about it. It comes down to writing. Writing's
everything. Writing is everything. And if the
writing's good enough, it can be in one fucking
room with one person, and you will be riveted.
It's the hit of the festival circuit. So there
are good stories, but a lot of the times I leave
a bigger movie or what have you, I'm like, it
was the writing that made the acting bad or what
have you. It wasn't made better by the special
effects. Yeah, I just it's the writing was bad
and the delivery was bad. The actors weren't
bad. It's I think there's a lot of facets that
go to it. I'm like one. I think some movies have.
too much, too many folk, you know, fire pokers
in the fire. Like, yeah, it's like, how do you
how do you divvy up the cash funds correctly
while you're doing it live? Because let's be
real, it's like it's I'm sure it's like herding
cats, having never done it, looking from an outside
lens like it's an impossible like Herculean task.
And like the fact that movies get made at all
is insane. But then you're like, yeah, like you
look at the Marvel movies and you're like, how
many different like you know, groups to the use
to make these effects happen. Like, well, no
wonder it costs this much money. It has to make
a billion dollars. If it doesn't make a billion
dollars, it loses. How do you keep good writing
succinct in that environment? And how do you
like the story again is fine. It's intact. But
sometimes it does come down to a good line, a
good bit of writing, because I just notice it
in every movie. I noticed it in the two movies
that we watched last night. One was a more of
like an event kind of apocalypse movie. The other
was a smaller indie, but the writing was good
in both, you know, like the conversations were
real, everything. And I was like, oh, man, these
are both good movies. One was better because
the writing was good. Oh, which one was it? Greenland,
too. OK, so it was better. OK. Well, yeah, not
over the two of them. I mean, it was just made
better. Yeah. By the writing. I was like, this
is actually really mistakes are good. The dialogue's
good. It's tense. There's. Yeah, I think. I think
teenagers acting like teenagers, which is kind
of funny. I think small things lead to big things.
And if you don't have the writing and dialogue
right. Yeah, it feels false. Even if the actor
delivers it correctly. Right. We we as humans
as a species have kind of figured out what feels
correct. So it's it still boggles my mind when
you get big name actors who play multiple big
roles. And like they're just known for doing
that. And it's like this person like, well, yeah,
I know. But I think of all these roles and you're
like that. It is kind of crazy. It's like I.
I'm willing to suspend disbelief and this person
always disappears into their role. It's wild
to think that we have that capacity. Yeah. And
it's there's got to hopefully a level of fun
to it. Yeah. Holy cow. I get to make some pretend
and yeah. But you know people to play pretend
a lot of money like pretending to be that guy
in the Revenant, though. I don't know if that
was very funny. I don't know. A great experience.
I think of things like that and I go, oh, yeah.
Wow. Wow, everybody involved, not just, but like
everybody involved really wanted to do that movie.
You ever think of like Sorcerer? The movie where
like they talk about, you know, traveling across
the Vichelin, you know, like Rockies and you're
just like, what? And you're like, oh yeah. And
then they kind of sort of had to do it to do
it because it was the only way to do it. And
you're like, man, that's wild. It's like, well,
how are we going to film this thing? What if
we did the thing? Yeah. What? What if we packed
up a truck and some cameras and just the crew
and we just we went out there and did it ourselves?
Like there's a movie. That's the movie right
there. That's this is wild. Well, Greenland 2
could have been probably on its own. It could
have been half the effects and would have been
pretty cool. And there's a bunch of movies like
that, which are great. And that's why writing
you wonder if sometimes it feels like they get
to it. They're like, all right, we're going to
pay. All right. Well, we saved some money here.
We could put this in the effects later. We could
do this later. Yeah. But then I'm always marveling
at the performances. Yeah. Like everybody really
gave it felt like like we're really swinging
for the fences. Wasn't phoning it in. You know,
everybody has got, you know, franchise money
that they're sitting on. Everybody's got those
original tracks coming down that that reeks of
integrity. I mean, I think that's pretty cool
in. I like a stupid movie though, too. You know
what I mean? There's always something fun about
a good popcorn movie. If there was a Geostorm
reference in Greenland 2, I wouldn't have been
mad, but it would have been on a place. I wouldn't
have been mad. OK, so we have established that
we may be able to create little mini universes
of our little unscripted universes, you know,
unscripted views. That's amazing. Looking back
at our previous film, The Dead Attempt. The Dead
Attempt. What do you remember of The Dead Attempt?
You helped me remember a lot. I helped you. You
helped me. Road movie. We did a different version
of a road movie. We didn't do the normal type
of thing, which is, I think, great. upon reflection
tagline. We went with one down, one back. I like
that too. I do like that because you reminded
me that this was a game. Yes. Yes. I think the
idea like I went with the idea of running man.
Like this somehow is broadcast. Everybody like
everybody's watching the dead attempt. Yeah.
This is like we have the typical wasteland stuff
that you encounter. Yes, of course. I believe
Ron Perlman's in any recast that you can think
of recasting. Who was our lead? Do you remember
who our lead was? Steve Zahn. Steve Zahn, of
course. And we talked about, forgive me, people
who could hold your focus and are likeable. Yeah,
he has that likeable charisma. Do you still feel
good about it? I still feel good about it. Because
you do want him to win. He feels like the everyman,
right? He hits that everyman niche quite well.
I don't have a recast. I have a celebration for
you. Uh, your casting of, uh, I have to look
down Natalie Portman as the leader of the, the
wasteland is inspired. And dare I say in a movie
like this, she might be like, you know what?
God damn it. I will. Yeah. I think she would
kill this role. Go let her go bananas. Be like,
what? Hey, the hell Ms. Portman, I want you to
have somebody be like, he is a professional.
Like, will you stop saying that? Yes. Yes. Or
somebody in the back with a sign that says Matilda.
I don't know. A plant. I want her to just go
bananas. I want her to watch Mad Max, The Road
Warrior, and then look at the Gang of Humongous
and then just be like, find somebody there, take
inspiration, go bananas. Sometimes it's the quieter
psychos too. You never know. What what? Talking
about Chris's Hemsworth did in that recent Mad
Max film. Oh, yeah, I loved every second of it.
It was great. It was quite great. And when you
have tragedy in a backstory that adds and he
was still a murdering psychosocial path, all
the paths. But. hot damn knows and all. Yes.
Side note, that's got to be an interesting world
to be in because it's got a language to it. You
know, it's got a, you know, it's a Frank Miller,
you know, it's even a road warrior movie because
especially in the later George Miller, Frank
George greater. Oh, sorry. Frank Miller's also
forgive me. to the either estates, if any of
them have estates. But there's a language to
them, you know what I mean? Yes. Including our
character, Mistress Bartiton from the dead attempt.
Yes. All right. I guess we're we've been pretty
easy on ourselves. We haven't recast anybody
in a little while. You know, we've done a few
recast, nothing major. I feel like we're pretty
great. Why look backwards, Logan? You know, sometimes.
Rose colored glasses also. Right. All right.
It's time to remind everybody. Thank you for
listening as well. It means a ton to us that
you do and hopefully you're having a good time
with this. But in this podcast which we call
a little unscripted because we make it up as
we're going along. See to the pants style. We
have this diabolical timer gives us 60 minutes
and in that 60 minutes we must complete a movie
and it must. include a plot to conclusion, whatever
that looks like, whatever that means, it must
feature this film must feature a character. I
want somebody to be in this movie some way somebody
knows. And again, we haven't stretched the boundaries
of that. We haven't gone back in the hundred
plus years of film. We haven't really gone too
far backwards. We've done a lot of big names
and wait till we pull somebody out of the hat
where like we force ourselves to find somebody.
This film must be directed by a director. somebody.
We can't let the AI write and direct this movie.
Not just yet. And very importantly, we must sell
this thing. It must feature a tagline. It must.
We haven't decided if we ever got to come up
with an elevator pitch, if we ever have to add
something to the sauce. Well, we do have as a
reminder for our listeners some good -to -haves.
Yes. Good -to -have includes composer, cinematographer.
I mean, we're not that articulate. We're just
lovers, but you know. I wish I researched more.
Writer. You know, writer, things like that. Yes.
And, you know, locations that would be cool.
So within the 60 minutes, we try to give you
as much juice as you can swallow. We squeeze
those brains pretty thoroughly and we get our
numbers one through 100. And those are our titles.
Those are randomly generated titles that hopefully
aren't any existing movie or a reflection of
if it is. We definitely didn't try and make that
totally accidental and genres, which if I may
digress for a second. The amount of genre still
at fifty five. It's it's it's fun. And as a note
to everybody, we do not look really ahead. I
know there's we know there's fifty five and we
know that they're reasonable, but we don't know
the specificity of all that we haven't tried
to like. Yeah. Change any of them on the fly.
But the idea that there's fifty five to work
with is still cool. Yeah. You know, that many
so far still gets me. Yeah. So far, no duplicates.
I'd like that. And there shouldn't be, I hope.
But if there are, we'll address it. When we get
to episode fifty five, we'll talk about it. Yeah.
And then we're going to we're going to get to
that. to that bridge over there. And then we
start again. All right. I'm going to get our
numbers. If you're OK with that, Logan, you know
what? I think I'm all right with that. All right.
Yes. Our number one through 100 is forty nine.
Forty nine. That's our title. That's the title.
And our genre number is twenty seven. Twenty
seven. Oh, oh, yeah. That's a useful number.
So it's twenty seven. I remember twenty seven.
Can I get the title for me, sir? I was doing
some silly things at twenty seven. All right.
The title, that's forty nine. Second skin. Second
skin. Oh, what? Please do you believe in serendipity?
I don't know. What do you do to make of that?
I don't. I'm not smart enough. You're not sweet.
OK, do I believe in serendipity or coincidence?
I think it's like it's serendipity is the idea
that like the universe unites. It's not a spy
film or a genre movie, is it? I should not have
said spy espionage, right? I'm not. I'm not joking.
I'm telling you, serendipity, dude. Hey, second
skin. It's the spy. Do we wield this into existence?
Well, I feel like we should really bring the
fucking heat then feels. Very generous. And I
believe, you know, like part of the fun of listening
to the show is struggling a little bit. But everybody
playing along, I think it's pretty exciting because
when we have to wedge a title into our story,
it's kind of fun for me. Like, Logan, hear me
out. Armpits matter in this universe. You know,
what have you. If that's not a spoof like trailer,
like poster for some like goof movie espionage.
Yeah. Second second skin. I feel like that has
to be a movie title, but maybe it's too simple.
You know what I mean? I've never heard of a movie.
Maybe it's a working title. Maybe all these are
working titles. We don't know. There's so many
movies out in production at the same time. Well,
I am exceptionally excited because this is a
genre that I love. I'm sitting across the table
from an expert in certain matters. I don't believe
that for a second. He blushes. And he fans himself.
I got the vapors. As I gently flinch in front
of you for your knowledge of history and things
that are of worldly. So if we have to go that
way, we can. But spy espionage. Oh, yeah. All
right. All right. We're going to start the timer
just to keep us honest. And if you hear it, you
know, that's great. If not, please take our word
for it. Scone. Trust us. It's going. We're trying
to beat it because it's annoying and I really
don't want to hear a beep. Do you want to hear
a beep? The thing about a spy espionage movie
is I think the nature of it. One, there is this
it's kind of, you know, I'd never do it, but
I'd love to do that. I'd love to just not be
me for a minute. Second skin style. You know,
Harry Tasker. OK, OK. In a movie like. I can't
even think of the name of the Arnold Schwarzenegger
movie. Jamie Lee Curtis. Oh, true. True lies.
How dare you besmirch the name of true lies.
How could you not know Bill Paxton was in that
movie? I got a little dick. It's such a great
actor. All right. One of the best lines in any
movie Tom Arnold delivers that it's what kind
of a sick bitch takes the ice cube trays from
the freezer. That is so true. That is a. Devious
move. Oh my God. Don't leave the ice but take
the tray. That's diabolical. That's planned ahead.
She even took the ice cube trays out of the freezer.
What kind of a sick bitch. Anyway, point well
taken. But the idea of being to live vicariously
through that lifestyle is fun. Yes. But there's
always an element of mystery in these types of
stories. Do you want it? All right. So the title
being Second Skin. Yeah. I mean, there's so many
things and ways that that can go. I feel like
it's got to be a sleeper agent kind of deal.
That's always fine a Donnie Brasco type of thing
like a real infiltrating. Yeah Yeah, yeah, like
like somebody doesn't that's exciting and that's
back at work deep undercover somebody you know
like has a code word parted Maybe one of the
most yeah in recent memories movies were like
you're so terrified for the everybody is being
found out you're scared for everybody also you're
like Just say it first five minutes. That's fucking
crazy The idea that that's the case. Yeah, another
thing that's really fun about espionage and spy
stuff is travel Yes, because a lot of people
don't you know, like this is a thing that you
really get to like truly experience another place
Sometimes you're you're not being aware of it
as an advantage. A lot of times it's not but
that fantastical. So like the mystery, travel,
excitement. But a spy movie doesn't have to be
action. No, no, it just has to be tense. I think
it's all about pacing and I think it's about
intensity because the thing that like spies movies
usually get wrong is like we're always like it's
shootouts and actions and chase scenes. And it's
like an honesty. Yeah, it's more heart pounding,
I think, than that. And honestly, like it's more
like I took a photo of some paperwork. or I recorded
them say something like that. Yeah, that's the
most intense thing ever because you're like,
how do you show of it? You're like, oh my gosh.
And hey, I remember back then that there was
papers saying goodness that there was like, oh,
you have to go through all those files out of
curiosity. Have you ever watched any of like
the spy like documentaries that have come out
like like declassified stuff recently? So like
not to shout out any major corporations, but
like there's major corporations. You'll figure
them out. But there's some that they have. Obviously
like lots of sway and like they have major names
and magazines under their title and like talk
to people who have like done Declassified stuff
and there's one lady whose husband was like very
like upper echelon ended up like in Vietnam,
Laos during the war dies at the time But like
she was with him the whole time She ends up becoming
like just so ingrained that like she eventually
goes to Russia I believe like during later in
the Cold War as like an actual agent like as
like a woman and they never suspected her of
being a spy because she was a woman because she
was the first woman spy to ever enter Russia
and they just never suspected that it was her
because like well nobody uses women women can't
be spies and it turns out like no she was like
one of the best agents they had on the ground
in Moscow but they just it's wild oblivious it's
wild the the US ambassador yeah to Germany during
the rise of Hitler Side note, like did raise
some alarm like we should be looking into this,
but his daughter was raised in all sorts of hell
in Germany and hooked up with this Russian soldier.
She was having sex with all these soldiers and
like this was like gallivanting around, but like
probably over her could have, you know what I
mean? Like these stories having all the time
where you have unsuspecting. There's the threat
or there's the idea of threat. That's the fun
thing about a movie like 13 days about the Cuban
Missile Crisis. How fucking tense is that movie?
And it's it's real. But this is the threat, you
know, like we don't know. But this could be a
toe to toe nuclear warfare with the Ruskies.
Yeah. Yeah. I think so. So we're agreeing on
it needs to be intense. Second skin as a title.
Do you feel like you want to be on the nose with
it? Because you could have an undercover doctor
and it could be in the world of something, you
know, like the interesting idea where like these
people have doubles and duplicates, these dictators,
drug lords, you know, what have you. Second skin
could be a plastic surgeon to somebody who decides
to turn. We could have a story like that. That's
that's either true or not. But but it's really
on the no second skin. this could be somebody
that is also maybe like a double agent themselves
having given themselves some kind of thing and
you can have like a double twist. I love the
idea of like you say like this dictator somebody
having a body double because obviously it's such
a thing that like definitely happens but if you're
good enough I mean it's prescient and a movie
I just watched recently for the first time Uh,
the man who killed Hitler and then the big foot.
Yeah. And, and it's, it's the, you know, the,
the killed Hitler part was this kind of procedural,
you know, he's like, I killed the real one. There's
four fakes. The guy who shot himself in the bunker
was a coward, you know, by the time I got to
that miserable man and yeah, he makes the point
like, you know, I didn't do a thing. I killed
a monster, but you know, that's great. The horror
lived on. But so the idea of these doubles. But
there are a couple of, you know, times in these
movies where, you know, they bring people in
that get compromised, you know, and it's like,
all right, you have this limited access, blah,
blah, blah. But are you interested in maybe trying
to figure out something that's real? I think
it's kind of more fun to make up a story. I think
we should make up a story. As fun as it would
be to do a real story, I think a real story,
the best bits, like the best parts of it are
always parts that seem so fantastical that no
one would believe. How about a conscripted doctor
who is not a spy at all? This is serious business,
but like it's a plastic surgeon from Hollywood
who's only good. And we could make it kind of
funnier or not, but like very serious, you know,
like in the way that Argo. OK, yes. You know,
it's it's interesting. But like, so this is this
is like we are going to tee you up and you get
one shot at this. Yeah, you're going to be under
a fucking microscope because like you're going
to get teed up to do plastic surgery on this,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What's the mission?
Is the mission like the. Again, like Argo, are
they rescuing somebody? Are they stealing something?
Could be to kill. Yeah, that's what's interesting.
Yeah. I think the idea that that it's a hit.
What if it's revealed to be a hit and it's like
a no return? At the very end thing, it's like,
hey, by the way, there's like down the road,
there's a little bit of a thing they thought
he would notice, but he's like, no, that's not
what's right for this thing. This is going to
kill him. No, no. You know what I mean? But I
think it's teed up to be a I can see that. What
if it I like the idea of it being something more
like this? We're like this. Whatever the spy
team is, because you're going to have a little
bit of a team aspect, right? Yeah. To do this
thing. We're breaking into a gala or something,
right? Let's be real here. Well, I mean, I think
we're we're teeing this person up. Yeah. To get
into the purview. Yeah. You know, because they've
heard this person is going to want this dictator,
whatever. Like it's very whatever the best. Yeah.
But what I'm thinking is, is like the team is
set up and then at the very like last minute
before like they are supposed to do whatever
they're supposed to do, the they get a call from
the president is like, it's a kill. Like it's
go time. And like it throws their thing into
a loop. Of course. Of course. Like there's always
some like little red tape thing where like, hey,
we're here to do like recon. And then at the
last minute, it's like, no, actually, you know
what? Yeah, go and like they do the thing but
as they succeed this is when the failure starts,
right? I think that's always the fun part of
the spy movies is like sure we did it but what
cost did it have to happen at because like Nobody
knows once the cascade hits because anything
everything's off the table now like that like
when they start the spy movie at the beginning
every Bond movie starts with some crazy action
scene because you're like Okay, this is chaos
words starting the movie or starting the setup
at the before this last Domino hits. Like this
is if this was an out of sync Quentin Tarantino
film, this is the part that would be at the very
beginning. And then we would cut back to the
beginning of the team up and then that makes
this I don't know if we should have it like that.
That makes us a totally maybe we should do it
like another version of this movie that's directed
by Timmy. It doesn't have to be. I'm just saying
like he's great at doing out of sync stories
like that. Like he's great at telling those stories.
Well, you this this as as a tense spy espionage
thriller. Yeah. It's it's a little salacious.
Right. Of course. You have this like this fish
out of water thing. But I like that those ideas,
it's like in monuments, man, where they're conscripting
those, those professors and, you know, whatever,
like this is fucking real. Yes. This is not a
joke. We're doing this. And you know what? It
is better, like you said, that we just need you
in there, you know, to see, you know, they're
going to fit your glasses. You're going to be
fine. And then, like you said, it becomes a big
dilemma because it's It's orders. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I like the idea for some reason. I'm not
saying it needs to be anything remotely modern,
but I love the idea of it stuff. It being like
this dictator that they're trying like they're
trying to get the dictator. Yeah. Or I think
the idea is like they're getting close to a family
member kid. Oh, sure. Sure. Yeah. Like that.
Yeah. Yeah. It's like their daughter's birthday
or something like that. Way, way better because
there's no way plausibly that that. Yeah. So
it has to be family. It has to be like it's somebody's
birthday. Family. Yeah. Like they got in close.
They're already close. Close. And the idea is
these things happen. But these people aren't
always taken and said, you are going to do this
thing. So is it are they a sleeper agent or are
they like they're they're unwillingly recruited
and like, hey, this is like this is the this
is the only option. Either you do what we say
this or and get this done or we're going to do
this with or without you. And it's got to be
in an era that it's at least of, you know, to
where you have proliferation of modern plastic
surgery on celebrities and. Yeah, this definitely
takes place, puts us around. Yeah, which is super
fun. The plastic surgeon, are you seeing anybody
male or female? Is it a plastic surgeon or is
it just somebody in general? Like, does it have
to be as. doctor, plastic surgeon. I'm just curious.
It's fun that, you know, you get that genre because
you can really say, because people poke fun at,
at that profession. It's not a real doctor, blah,
blah, blah. I gotcha. But I wrote down like,
there could be this really funny bit like, well,
I'm good with a knife. You know, maybe there's
a knife fight somewhere. There could be some
secret moxie there. You know what I mean? That
we don't know. Like, like came up rich, but like,
you know, and kind of like Oliver Platt in like
Placid, like the benefit of being dropped off
that karate, you know, or having parents who
didn't care. Right, right. So like, there could
be bits of that that aren't really shown right
away. OK, that may be interesting. OK, the bit
like, well, I am good with a knife, but that
they're soft. They're only used to working on
celebrities, which is fine, but not under this
extreme circumstance. Let me try and suss this
out just a little bit. I'm trying to think. Is
the party because it's not where the surgery
would happen. The party is like the intro. This
is the meet the person kind of thing. This could
all be part of it. But the ultimate plan is that
this person is going to be or they feel that
the party is going to be hired. They know it's
going to happen like we are going to like we
heard through CIA work that they this person's
evil person is going to be hiring this celebrity,
you know, you know, plastic surgeon to do work
on their kid, what have you. We're going to get
to him first. Yep. And they're going to be doing
a mission, whether they like it or not. That
old chestnut. Is the idea like they're going
to implant this in the daughter and like they're
going to blackmail her? It could be. It could
be like, you know, I think, like you said, the
mission's small, but the risks are high. This
is really fucking crazy because, you know, of
course, it's surgery. Every eye is going to be
on it all times. OK, OK. I have one name that's
sticking out to me and I know it's because I
said it previously before we hit record. Yeah,
I I like the idea of it being Rebecca Ferguson.
I think she would be a great lead. Yes. And contrary
to the norm, not all doctors are men. Let's be
real here. Come on. Well, I like that there can
be toughness there, but I bet she can soften
a little bit to like like play it like, oh, yeah,
no. I think no, I think cannot. Yeah, I love
the idea of her kind of being like sweats in
like, OK, just like this is a day off when the
government shows up. I love this. I'd love for
the dictator to be a woman and the kid to be
a boy. Oh, OK. OK. Like a like a 20 something.
Love it. I love the flip. I love the flip on
this because it's always the other way around.
Do a flip. But like I like the idea that you
have these little like her specialty is dudes.
Yeah, that's great. Who's the lot of guys get
more plastic surgery probably then. Who's the
dictator in this? Evil. All right. How about
this location? Oh, that's interesting. Because
I feel like this will dictate the dictator. Ha
ha. Alliteration. I did it. Chalk on the board,
deed done for the day. You did do it. All of
my dictators are in a tropical location. OK,
tropical. I don't like that. I should be like.
I was thinking Southeast Asia, Estonia Eastern
European. We rarely get to go to Africa. We should
do an African warlord. That'd be fun. An African
dictator. That could be interesting. Yes. When's
the last time there was an African dictator?
done correctly. A dictator done correctly. I
don't know. They're all pretty bad because any
good ones out of Africa. That one's pretty dark.
The last one I really remember was maybe Blood
Diamond, Tears of the Sun. Tears of the Sun is
a really intense movie. Anton, how do you say
his last name? Oh, I don't know. Fukunawa? Oh,
maybe. I think it is. Anton Fuqua? Is that what
it is? The guy who did Training Day? Yeah, yeah.
I think so. I would love for him to do this espionage
movie. We know that I say it. Yeah, that's a
great director. He would be great. OK, so so
far we got Rebecca first. I think, you know,
it does seem a little improbable. You're doing
a lot of plastic surgery in Africa. Yeah. It
would just be weird about it. So here's what
I think. If we're sticking with the plastic surgery.
Can we go Russia -ish? No. Hear me out. I'm thinking
if we do plastic surgery. The idea is they are
trying to disguise to get into somewhere. Well,
no, I think it's just vanity. I think it's either
vanity. One, it can be vanity. But I like the
idea of like they want to go visit their kid
or something back home. Like maybe they're exiled.
Like if I put on a new face, I can go into the
US. Oh, I thought a new face stuff is like really
extreme. But like I thought like like a kid.
Well, I did you know, I just like like they did
do a James Bond thing in the Pierce Brosnan area
We were he went from being a Korean dude to a
white guy. That was a laser mask It was a diamond
laser mask and he had diamonds in his face challenge
channeling the Additional power of the diamond.
He used the power of the Sun to melt the DMZ
then Madonna and fencing Thank you. Thank you
very much. And then all of a sudden, they pick
up not fencing weapons that are still fencing.
I don't. Well, the extremity of the surgery can
be here or there. I mean, I think it's still
interesting that this is a fish out of water
sent to a tough ass place. All right. How about
this? Who has to do this thing? I like that it's
just vein surgery. All right. Hear me out. Hear
me out. What if it's not only that? Like, what
if? It's a verification. What if they want to
verify this is actually the person who is supposed
to be? This person has had plastic surgery. They
know this person's coming in to do a thing. But
they're like, we don't know for a fact if it
is them or not. It could be a body double as
far as we know. We need you to verify. And things
escalate bad. And towards the end, they're like,
you have to kill this kid. Who's the kid? Is
it South Africa? Are we doing like an African
warlord? I'm going to throw, like, I want to
do like a Russian thing and I want to throw out
Alex Terrible, the singer of Slaughter to Reveal.
He's this big tattooed monster. OK. It's a weird
thing to say. I'm going to place hold it because
we need our our big bad, right? OK. And our big
bad. And we can do anybody at any time. Yes,
indeed. What if it's Glenn Close? Like full psychopath.
Oh, like she's just like doing it like a like
an Eastern European. Yeah, nuts. You know, somebody
like that's because she she's close crop like
military cut. Yeah. I mean, either way, like
she she stiff, rigid or she's more like I think
she is icy cold. Like in every movie she's in.
Yeah, she's usually I've never seen her light.
I've never seen her. How dare you was last time
you want the boo box Still I Like her and then
Alex terrible in his acting debut plays this
like and he's got already like a scar on his
face That could be the joke like they're fixing
the scar on his face. Okay, he's like, you know,
he's like, you know, he's just a wild character
He'd probably be a great actor heavy Russian
accent. Okay, and he's jacked Look him up I don't
know why I'm suggesting this. This is so, I mean,
like to act with Glenn close in her prime, but
she, you know, something like that or somebody
like that. I like the, you know, getting close
to the, to the vanity project of a kid, that
man right there. Yeah. Ah, yes. Okay. That's
okay. Because if we're doing, you know, like
the, Now, there's other you could have. It could
be a scars guard. It could be even the younger
one. It could be, you know, a Hemsworth. It could
be a, you know. I'm trying to get into a different
decade of the time. It could be Viggo Mortenson.
OK, I was thinking because for some reason I
got stuck up on the Africa one. I don't know
why my brain stuck up on that one. Yeah. Well,
we've cast Viola Davis or something. I was thinking
a little younger. I was thinking Leprito. I'm
going to butcher her last name, Nagui Nongo.
Yes. Yeah, I'll let you say it. Yeah, she's I
mean, she's youthful. I think the idea is like
her husband had passed and like she takes over
as like this this criminalized organization.
And her son is Caleb McLaughlin. Who's that?
He's the kid from Stranger Things. One of the
four kids. Yeah, I think he won. So they're going
to put packs on him. Yeah, like they need to
muscle him up. Yeah. Yeah. What is happening
here? I don't know. This is we're doing our job.
This is our job. This is a twist. Oliver, what
what are they? Are they putting a new face on
this kid? What's happening? Well, he's older
than I mean, he's in his 20s now. So like, yeah,
for sure. For sure. So what's his problem? Why
do they need to get Rebecca Ferguson? He's got
to the depths of Africa. He's got a gimped leg.
No, I don't know. I don't know. This is why we
call it spitball. They've got to fix his gimpy
leg. He's going to be transfixed on this gimpy
leg. Yeah. There could be multiple stranger things
references throughout. Oh, of course. They could
also have a monster problem. No, no. Scrap it.
I'm scrapping. I'm throwing it away. They could
have a monster problem. And like tremors, there's
also tremors popping up. These like Gravoids.
There's Gravoids happening. We have a Wakanda
reference somewhere in there because it takes
place in Africa, of course. I hated to see. There's
a blood diamond reference. We're just going to
keep like. What more do you want? What more do
you want from me? What do you want? If this is
a blood diamond thing that makes it quite topical.
It does. Rebecca Ferguson can do anything. She
can. I like the idea that she's like a soft Beverly
Hills plastic surgeon to hunky men has to go
to some wild place. You know what it is. Here's
what it is. And just do her job. She just has
to do her job. You know what it is. Here's what
it is. Is that she is the surgeon and she's like
she's realized that she's like at the end of
her rope or something to that effect or not.
Like she's burnt out from her job. She loves
it. But the idea is like she's been doing it
for so long that it's not the same. So she decides
to sign up for like Doctors Without Borders or
something like that. Because. People forget,
like, spy agencies all the time. Well, this is
a spy movie. She has to be in the CIA. I think
she gets recruited. No, I think she gets recruited.
We got to show her getting recruited in this.
So I think Doctors Without Borders is like the
very beginning. We start with her being like,
you know, depressed on the couch and like, hey,
I'm going to change my life. And she signs up
for Doctors Without Borders. And then she gets
an email from, you know, the company and the
company is like, hey, yo, we want you to go do
this thing. And this is what happens. And she
ends up Definitely, I hit this young. Can John
Cusack Prime, like in his prime, be her boyfriend?
Prime John Cusack? Maybe, maybe. I didn't think
you were going to say boyfriend. I thought you
were going to say like CIA handler. No, I think
we'll get there. OK. I just like the one she's
leaving behind. OK. He's the one she's leaving
behind? Yeah. OK. Also maybe a doctor. OK. OK.
I could see it. I don't know if he's the one.
Just supporting her? Maybe. Being real serious.
We put a pin on him? Yeah, yeah, for sure. I
want to put a pin on him. I don't know why I
needed an anchor for her to like... I don't know
if we need a boyfriend role. I think the idea
is that she doesn't have anybody. This is why
she's going out. Oh, you think he gets kidnapped?
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoever this is gets
threatened. Gotcha, okay. We need some stakes
for her. Ah, I gotcha, okay. That's sorry. No,
no, no. Now that I understand where you're coming
from, I'm like, all right, now you say I understand
it. Because when you get the villain going...
I don't think John Cusack's the guy I want, though.
He is believably could fight his way out. You're
right. I just he is a bad ass. You're right.
He is bad. Who do you think the the handler,
though, is interesting? Yeah, I think you want
somebody of stature. Do you want somebody who's,
you know, like like Sam Jackson recruiting Vin
Diesel and Triple X. John C. McGinley. Is it
John C. McGinley? Yeah, John C. McGinley. Serious.
100 percent. Yeah, point break style. Definitely.
maybe, maybe not like older right now, right
now, Johnson. No, no, no. I get it. Yeah. That's
great. That's awesome. Old weathered scene. Great
shit. Dude's tense. Okay. Dude's like, no, I
went through the war on terror. Yeah. Like you
gotta understand these people are brutal. Like
he was, he was bad -ass. Oh, I'm going to forget
the movie. He's like a soldier or a mercenary.
Is he in the rock? Yeah, he better believe he's
in the rock. He's in the rock. He's also there's
the Vietnam movie He was in with John C. Reilly.
No, it was a platoon No, I know that one was
not him. I think he is in platoon He was also
wasn't he in the other one with come in. I think
this is great. I think he's a great selection
Yeah, yeah Johnson McGill is my selection and
so we're keeping a serious tone about yes Still
we figured out our villain I suggested Glenn
Close. You suggested the I like I do like Glenn
Close as the villain. I think if we make it this
Eastern European, you know, type of thing, you
have a lot of there's still travel. Yep. That
can happen because they do a lot of shipping
through Africa. Let's do some exact stuff. Just
fucking scary. Maybe the idea is like this person's
in another nation. Again, the sun is is it either
vanity or whatever? needs to get work from this
person. And it's hair work that they can get,
you know, hair work. He's going bald. So they
have time. They like you need to push this, you
know, because they're like, you tell them you
can't cancel Tom Cruise or something funny. Right.
Yeah. So that's the one laugh. OK. And there
is a period of time to get her ready and for
her to have doubts and have the boyfriend and
her support group. Maybe there's a mom. OK. there
who's also threatened. John C. McGinley. I think
we have, we need some more government people.
John C. McGinley could have somebody who is with
them as well. You said Ben Foster. Have we cast
him in anything? I know his name has come up
before in our podcast. All right. So I want to,
I don't think your guy is a bad guy. You're Alex
terrible. I think I just don't know any of his
other stuff. And if this is the role we want
actor, I should have made that clear ahead of
time. I think that there's no Alex. I'm suggesting
this Alex. Yes. And this is Alex. I'm suggesting
his name is Alexander Ludwig. He was in the Hunger
Games as like a teenager. Oh, yeah. He's also
a Vikings kid, right? Yeah. The blonde kid. Yeah.
Vikings. I think he's a good role. Yeah. I think
he fits the role you're looking for. And I think
he's the size and stature that we're after for
this Eastern European gangsters kid. But can
have heart, but can also come off like privilege,
what have you. A hundred percent. John C. McGinley.
There should be a team, I think, like a serious
research person. Who are you imagining as the
research? Who's the person in the chair? Who's
in the chair? Well, yeah, I mean, that's fairly
interesting because. Even in the serious movies,
the person in the chair is typically somebody
who's attached. It's not in the comedies. Yeah,
somebody usually like, you know, it's been the
subject of comedy in a lot more movies. I think
a lot of people have been finding comedians to
be the people, the person in the chair. Oh, that
or vice versa. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's always
somebody who looks towards them with sympathy
along the way. Holly Hunter. Oh, Holly. OK. I
like her southern accent. OK. Could she could
she be like the, you know, boot camp got you
through it? Do you know what I'm talking about?
No. Raising Arizona. I need to look. I need to
look up. I just add that to my list. I'll be
honest with you. All right. So so I'll just give
me the name again. Holly Hunter. Holly Hunter.
I'm probably going to see the face and be like,
I know exactly what you're talking about. She's
an actor who I think is probably of diminutive
size, but just has a lot of charisma to her southern
accent. She's in the Batman versus Superman Donna
justice. She does that like you with you can
call it grandma's peach tea and piss whatever
with Jesse Eisenberg and it's stone fucking cold.
All right. All right. She could be somebody who
could play a military type who could play friendly
who could play hard. That's good. She's in the
movie copycat. as well with Sigourney Weaver,
another great one. She's in so many great movies.
I'm besmirched. So because I look because I had
to look it up because I'll be honest with you.
I had to look at it. No, that's what we use resources
here. Full disclosure. We have technology. Yeah.
In the year 2000, she was in a great film. Oh,
a great, great film. OK. She plays Penny Warford
McGill and Oh, brother, where are you? Which
I believe is the wife of George Clooney's character.
He's bonafide. He's bonafide. Bonafide. So that
would be the one like that. Warby gal. She is
actually the voice of Mrs. Incredible. Yeah,
Elastigirl. Yes. Yeah, Elastigirl. Yes. She's
amazing. She'd be great as like another government.
But I get her through, you know, boot camp. I
could see it. Ally. OK. She'd be a fan favorite.
The only other one, because for some reason the
name reminded me, and I'm a child of the product
of my times, but Helen Hunt, I think, would be
a great selection. You want her in this movie?
I don't know. Potentially. Oh, she our guy's
bodyguard. The tough. She's the tough. We have
a lot of women in the spy movie. This is great.
There's a lot of women. You want Helen Hunt to
be? Like lethal with a with a knife. Yeah. Oh,
she's. Are we doing like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang?
Like she's just she's. Why am I saying who is
in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang with starring Robert Downey
Jr. You had he was in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. He
was the lead. Was he? What was the what was the
Christmas one? Was that the Christmas Christmas?
Was it most of them with Sam Jackson? And who
was the? Are we getting our wires crossed? We
might be. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang directed by Shane
Black. I think it was Shane Black did this one
and I need to look it up. Shane Black. Sorry.
My bad. You also have people are losing their
minds right now. I'm losing it too. I can't tell
you who else is in it. Val Kilmer is in it. Of
course. The last, the long kiss. Good night.
That's the one I'm thinking. Oh, Gina Davis.
Yes. See, I was like, hold on. I was like, I
know I'm in the right. We were both having a
mine. I was like, I'm right here. I'm there.
Also last action hero. Shout out Arnold. Great
movie. Don't sleep on it. They are, they are
pretty great. It hurts when you punch through
a window. Charles dance. And that movie is probably
one of my favorite Villa lines when he comes,
which one, when he just shoots somebody's like,
hello, I've murdered someone. And just like nothing
happened. It's like, huh? This place is great.
Yeah. It's just like, this is the best thing
ever. I've murdered a man. Like he is also 90
stud. Let's be real here. Let's be, we all know
from game of Thrones, but like you look at him
that you like stud dudes, a stud Charles dance.
Can he be in this movie? Yes. I'm putting that
down and where to find the place. I mean it could
be the head of the CIA You know the big the big
like play do a UI US accent. He's the ambassador
when he looks at the dog He's the US. He's the
ambassador. They're gonna use Like when they
land he's the one who shows up going back though.
Yeah, were you saying replace Gina Davis with
no No, no, I'm just thinking like that's the
that's what I'm thinking like when she goes full
spy mode I'm thinking Helen Hunt gets like that
Like, yeah, that's the way. But Helen Hunt is
our boy's bodyguard. Yes. Yes. And that's Alex
Ludwig. Yes. That's a terrifying duo. I wouldn't
want to fight them. Also, anybody listening?
I know Street Fighter's coming out, but if those
two aren't in Street Fighter, I'm going to be
so mad. I don't know what roles you give them,
but both of them in Street Fighter would be great.
It's another great. point of conversation. Which
of our characters so far from these movies make
great video game? Oh, which movies make good
video games themselves? I could think of one.
I think they could all be really fun. There's
a couple I think that stand out. I think the
Western would be fun if done right. I can see
that being a fun video game. Red Dead Redemption
2 styles. You weren't there because you weren't
there like the story would be great. The other
one that I think would be fun. Looking back at
my notes here. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold
on, hold on, hold on. I think interesting would
be the... Why am I spacing out? You might think
sci -fi, but not really, because... You wouldn't
necessarily think all of them would have any...
Because the story -based games. I was going to
say, I finally, like, my brain is focused just
north of trouble, I think. Oh, yeah. The clone
story. In the Ninth Door, like a survival game.
If anybody wants to make some video games with
us, let us know. In the last episode, that's
a video game for sure. Yeah. So just because
we named these actors doesn't mean we can't make
it. Sorry, side note, random tangent inside of
the episode. Man, way to throw me for a left
turn. I love it. It was bound to happen. But
back to our story. I'm shocked it took this long.
You know what? Were we at 14 episodes in and
we just now get to this juncture? Well, again,
I don't know if video game adaptation is going
to be one of our... Fifty five. I mean, I'm still
marveling at how many genres. You know what?
It's a script. How many genres can you just think
of right now? Too many. Nine. At least double
digits, I feel like. Don't put me to the test,
though. I don't want to do it. Think about fifty
five. That's really loud. Yeah, I do think we
kind of get a little into the weeds on it, but
that's all right. Yeah. Antoine Fuqua as a director
makes this. I see this movie, which is kind of
funny. I don't know why. And it has a tone to
it. It definitely. I like Charles Dance. Charles
Dance, you were saying as an ambassador or somebody
they meet, at least meet. He's too high class
to not be in this. Could he be a spy himself?
Oh, he's also from like he's another agent turncoat.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. That's sad. Does he
die? Yeah. Billy Zane kills him. Oh. Who's Billy
Zane play? Uh, he's like, he's, he's the local,
he's the local authority. Oh gosh. Yeah. But
good. He's a good guy. He's a good guy. He doesn't.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's a local authority.
Great idea. Yeah. Yeah. Like he sees the shootout
happen like, cause we got to have a final shootout
or something, right? Some chaos happens. I think
knives. I think the whole joke is good with a
knife. Yeah. And the thing is Helen hunt. Does
Charles dance like kidnap somebody? Is that what
it is? And like Billy Zane recognizes it? Well,
I think it's, um, Rebecca Ferguson's boyfriend
who we haven't identified yet, who is in danger
and maybe a mother. Ooh, a mother. You know what
I mean? Okay. Or the threat of. Okay. Because
you know, the idea is that her stakes in general,
you know, she thinks are kind of low. I just
have to go in. Do my job. Identify the person.
She doesn't know later. I'm going to confirm
that this is the person. They're going to say.
I'm going to give my information. They're going
to kill this kid. Yeah. Like during the operation,
it's going to go bad. She gets word. And the
thing is, I wonder, OK, I wonder if it's almost
plausible. Like they're like, you're going to
be fine. Things happen, right? Like the statistics
on people dying. So like. Let's be ready. So
Ryan, you know what terrifies me is how little
it takes to kill people. Like this is not like,
Hey, I know this because I thought it was one
information is like just watching, watch ER and
then be like, Oh man, it doesn't take much to
for like humans can die pretty easily. It's like
all it takes is like an empty needle full of
air to go into your veins and then air bubble
will kill you. You'll die of a brain aneurysm.
So it's like theoretically under surgery, like
she could be like, I Oops, there was an accident.
He died like that could be like the whole kill
method. Like, yeah, that's terrifying. That's
fun. That is so fun. This is fun. Well, the idea
that she steals herself by saying, I'm just I
just have to go in and do. Yeah, ultimately.
Right. Yeah. Like there do we have just another
gig for her until she gets pulled aside. We have
all this preparation. We have the different scenes
of training. Uh, and people who are mean to her
along the way, you could have real celebrity
cameos. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. If, if once, but ultimately
she can steal herself by saying, all I'm doing
is just what I do. Yep. And then it gets really
fucked when they're like, Oh, you have to kill
them. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. As they're about
to go into surgery, they're like, Hey, by the
way, the thing changed. Uh, they didn't sign
a waiver. They did it. Is that the tagline? Did
you sign the waiver? I'm not good with a knife.
I wrote that down early. But like, you know,
the idea is like we're doing this on the up and
up. They think we're on the up and up. And there
could be a point where that line needs to be
something. You need to sign this. Yeah. There
is a chance that your son could die. Yeah. You
need to understand close is like, no, it does.
It was not going to happen. And then like, that's
when we reveal the boyfriend or the sibling or
the parent or somebody. Think that you fucking
beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, like no you're my son's
not gonna die at all You first have this disbelieving
but yeah, no, you don't even need the second
punch, right? Yes, the terrors there you can
show enough scenes of her being fucking Brutal.
Oh, yeah. Yeah with the doctor the Rebecca Ferguson's
doctor spy character definitely gets to see like
Glenn close like kill somebody who fucked up
like that they they want they witness an execution
style like so are in the closet are there three
reveals one is the boyfriend yes two mom who
three Even dug up your uncle. I got your dog.
We brought your dog. We're going to abuse its
corpse. No, I don't think you need that many.
That is a joke. You can't kill the dog. But the
idea is like we even dug up your uncle Aaron.
We're going to torture that bitch too. That's
funny to me. If that's not been done in a movie,
we even dug a motherfucker up. I think the tone
changes drastically. It becomes it goes from
a spy to a straight comedy of errors. Real question.
Real question. Oh, if it's filmed and written,
delivered well enough, is that concept solvable
as real terror that you're going to? I guess
if you say if you threaten to like what if it
was a young relative young sibling who died like
hers or rebecca it doesn't even have to be a
young sibling like oh it's your child it's your
dead child it's your baby child we dug up your
dead baby's corpse and we're going to desecrate
it that's fucked up right why you gotta put that
out there i'll retort slightly that that does
lean into well that is pretty rough that's like
like is the concept sellable do you think if
it's done right I think if, yes, in a real world
scenario, if you saw somebody and you were bound
and they were - We even dug somebody up. Yeah,
we dug up - It's always gonna be funny. No, not
you, if you were bound, would not find that funny.
That would be terrifying. The fact that they
know you so thoroughly that they went to one
of your family member's graves, dug it up. Like
remove like the corpse robber essentially grave
robbing on top of it. And then not only exhumed
it from the grave, but brought it there to you.
Aside from all the capital crimes Glenn Close
is undergoing. Like of all the crimes to commit,
like that's a crime. It's doable. We could deliver
that. Yeah, you could. I don't want to. I think
so. I don't want to, but you definitely could.
OK, what if it's in the room? Ooh, the corpse.
And we just turn out a light. There's two screens.
Third thing, it's... And then you're just kind
of poking at its eyes. So one, step one is it's
the boyfriend for sure. Or friend or family member,
whoever, some person of great value, right? Neil
Patrick Harris. As the lover? Boyfriend? I don't
know. Okay. Pinning that. Well, maybe I could
see it hard. Maybe hard. Maybe is the third person
like we even got your grocery store guy? No,
no, too far. No, I'm thinking we need to do either
somebody they love right away. Yeah. And then
right after that, it needs to be John C. McGinley
is the second review. Like we even have your
hand. She doesn't care about him. I know she
doesn't care about it, but I think we need to
show how thoroughly I think we need to show how
thoroughly this You do that with a corpse, Logan.
You do that with the corpse of the dog. Is John
C. McKinley dead? Yeah, fuck him. He dies. I
mean, maybe it's best that he lives to see the
retribution. He gets the sequel. But if I was
her, I wouldn't care. OK, all right. So no, I
don't think we have that reveal. It's fine. But
I don't think you have that reveal. I do like
the idea, though, of the boyfriend. Let's figure
out this boyfriend. I think we just do the boyfriend.
So who is somebody who would be a good match
for her maybe again in Antonio Banderas? Prime.
Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So it's like meant as a cameo
and then you're like, oh, you show up later.
Yeah. Sure. I think he's he's vulnerable enough,
but also he can flip that intensity switch on
a dime. He's got it. He's got those chops. I
think he's also slept on too much as an actor.
I think we forget about it. We forget about Antonio.
Automata, the sci -fi movie came out like 10
years ago or so. I am not. Do I need to? Amazing.
Do I need to? It's his wife, ex -wife Melanie
Griffith has a cameo in it. OK. It's fucking
awesome. Is this a Ryan's recommendation? Yes.
Hardcore. What was it? Knowing you, Automata,
I believe is the name. All right. It's going
on the list. It's awesome. Those of you keeping
track at home. And I'm going to I'm going to.
Say it incorrectly, but there are other character
actors, like just people that you like, and you'll
be like, Oh, that's great. I'm glad they're in
this and this and this and this. Yes. 100 % 100
% 100%. I like the idea. Okay. What is his hair
length? Hold on. Hold on. Are we talking like
assassins? I'm talking El Mariachi, beautiful
flow. Hell yeah. Is he also, um, was he an ex
client? Maybe he was an actor. Like there's,
it's a little meta. So that's why he's so handsome.
He's a musician or something. He was a musician.
He was a guitar player, but just a real, like
a, like a high school music teacher. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. He needs to have some redeeming quality.
Like, yeah, it's more fun than he's a regular
person. He's just a snow. I love the idea of
we wink, wink, nudge, nudge like El Mariachi,
like he was a guitar player. I think like those
film nerds out there with us will get it and
they'll be like, and no corpse. Yeah. That's
too far. Yeah. I don't think we do the corpse.
I don't think you have them dig up the corpse.
I think it changes the tone either too dark or
too funny. You don't think there's a surprise.
Oh, okay. I, oh, I'm going to go with you. The
surprise second reveal is Holly Hunter. Oh, okay.
Okay. Like they're one person along the way.
They showed her kindness who left in the dust.
Narratively, like you showed up to like, like,
give her some information. No, no, no. Just capture.
Just capture. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's what she
was like. Like she was showing up to like drop
off some information and got caught by the bad
guys. However it happened. No, no. Like we don't
even have to tell it. No. Like any story thing.
Like she is Holly Hunter's character who is somebody
along the way. who you can introduce as the hard
-ass has to, I got to get you through boot camp,
this kind of thing, but shows some heart. And
then forgotten. And that makes sense. Sometimes
in these movies, you just forget. I like it.
And so you write, hopefully you write it enough
so that that character is totally forgotten.
So that's why in a reveal like this, if you have
one, it's a good shocker, and then hopefully
you've completely forgotten about Holly Arnher.
because your idea of it being McGinley is fine.
Yeah. But I'd be like, fuck that guy. Yeah. You
know, I torture him. But if it's her, the nice
person. Yeah. That's a good one, too. If we can
do a one to now do your job. And this and I'm
not signing that waiver. Yeah. OK. And then there
could be like. Yeah, this is a dilemma. And I'll
be right. Here how's uh, that's not sterile.
How's Alexander Ludwood died? We doesn't get
a brain aneurysm. Does he die? I don't think
he does he lives. Yeah, he gets botched It gets
botched. You can't put her she can't let her
family die. I understand Okay, what are all what
this is admittedly? It's a dark. Okay, we got
13 minutes conclusion here. Yeah, yes, right.
So like Is she able to kill him during this procedure?
No Is it accidental? Like, what if... It can't
be during the... I was gonna say, could it happen
during, like... So what if she's about to, and,
like, this is when Helen Hunt comes in, and she
recognizes, like, she's about to, like, hit this
plunger, and this is when we get the knife fight.
Alex is under anesthesia, asleep for surgery,
but we get a knife fight. No, but I thought the
idea was, like, we're watching you the whole
time. Yeah, I get it. Like, so it being not during
the surgery is fine. Uh -huh. it being after
like the kid could live or die. Honestly, like
she's done her mission. Let's say that Alex lives
through the surgery. She like she doesn't kill.
Do we want this kid dead? I don't know what if
he's actually a pretty redeemable quality. Well,
that's what I'm saying. He's actually kind of
a sweetheart. Pretty funny. And like Helen Hunt
could be a straight up evil villain. Glenn Close
could be straight up evil villain. And you can
get away with not killing this kid. It would
be a fun turn of events. It's a second skin.
I mean, Let's be real here. Nobody's who they
say they are. They're all playing somebody else.
And that could be the thing, like, can you help
me, you know, like, get out of here? Like, there
could be a tattoo he wants to cover up, like,
in your clothes and could be, yeah. So after
his surgery, they take him in. So we get into
a knife fight with Alan Hunt. Yeah. Knife fight
happens. Alan Hunt dies brutally, gloriously.
Knife fight. Hell yeah. Glenn Close knows about
this, learns about it, finds out. After the fact
that the tension she sees it happen on like the
cameras and just like, oh, shit. So do we have
a big chase? Yeah, for sure. Is this an OK? How
big a movie is this? It seems pretty large. We're
going to have Billy Zane shoot Charles Dance
as he's fleeing. No, I mean, like, have we had
any big set pieces? Not yet. It seems like it
seems like we're going to like a mansion of some
sort, like a compound of some sort. You know
I'm saying like so they're final the final confrontation
between Rebecca Ferguson and And Glenn Close
could be quiet or this could be a Cavalries here.
We've saved Antonio Yeah, is it a scrappy chase
or is it a big chase like the government's involved?
I like it to being a strong we're pursuing her
government, too I like it being a scrappy chase
of like like they're not allowed to interfere
or something's happening where they can't get
involved because We need to have, we need to
have deniability. So they have to do this themselves.
Like she calls her because she's like, I'm never
going to stop. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then Antonio's
like, we've got this. Yeah. Yeah. He, this is
where his flip comes in and he's like, no, like,
no, like they're going to, they're going to do
everything. They, they pulled me from our couch.
You know what I'm saying? Like I was watching
the game. This is for real. Like, no, baby, you
gotta understand. Yeah. Yeah. I love that idea.
Like he's just some dude. Just, just Yeah, I
love this. But the fact that he has some... Oh,
no, he's high school. He doesn't have skills.
Yeah, he's a guitar player. He's a guitar player.
Just a terribly handsome guitar player. What's
the tagline? We're running low on time. I think
we got 10 minutes. Tagline me. I love the idea
of it being knife related. Give me a writer.
I'm going to percolate on this tagline. I was
thinking about... Because Antoine Fuqua, right?
I think he could do both. Again, writer, director.
No, the guy who wrote I think was part of the
writing team of the equalizer, Richard Wink.
OK. Also did Craven the Hunter. I love that.
Of course. The equalizer. Yeah, is the equalizer
the expendables? OK. So might be able to do like,
you know, some action, but serious stuff, because
equalizer was kind of heavy. Well, because I'm
a simple bitch and I just looked at and Quan
Antoine Fuqua's. Okay, you think of him as the
writer? Yeah, I think that like that like the
equalizer thing, you know, there's there's some
you know, it's entry intrigue that kind of thing.
That might be a good pairing. Definitely the
the the tagline of second skin because those
do slice the idea. Well, the idea is it's not
It is for him. It is for the son after all. I
like the idea of this knife. Somehow we tie it
into the knife thing like you're going to chop
it out or something like that. Good with a knife.
Good with a knife. Knife to meet you. That's
the one joke like, I have no skills, I have no
skills, but like, and you keep forgetting. I'm
good with a knife. Good with a knife. Like it's
said as a joke because I'm a plastic surgeon.
But in actuality, I'm really good with a knife.
Like, yeah, I know exactly where to cut you once.
I'm good with a knife. Second skin. Second skin.
Good with a knife. Close, we're close. We're
in the ballpark. It's almost there. I want it
out of here, though. I want to hit it over the
bleachers. Yeah. Second skin, and I believe,
is Antonio Banderas in a movie that's called
this, maybe? I don't know. If it is, I'm gonna
be sad now that we got all the way through this.
Well, it's not this, but he plays a... Second
skin. I like the idea of like peel it off, you
know? Yeah, well it feels like... Climb out.
Like she... She's the one who's helping with
this second skin, right? Like she's getting her
second skin because she's finding a toughness
that she didn't know she had. Toughen up, second
skin, toughen up. You know what? You need send
more. You need more skin. You know, like a typical
layer of skin. You know, very thin. Second skin.
Send more. I don't know. I'm just trying to hear
it out. I'm trying to like be real like I'm on.
I'm understand what you're saying. I'm just trying
to think it out loud. That's all the idea that.
She wants to shed. I think she's getting a second.
Yeah. Like that skin new life, new breath. You
think it's about getting rid of one, but it's
about, you know, gaining one and the sun's getting
one to a double meaning. Second skin. So let
it in pretty deep. Second skin, let it in. That's
kind of Dr. Zoos. It's gross. Okay. Automata
is that movie that's from 2014. Okay. And he
was in something that I know had to do with skin
and this kind of idea, not this actual idea,
but like plastic surgery. And it's really kinky.
You know what I mean? Like, I don't want to see
some people in a sexy movie, some actors. How
dare you say that about him? He's beautiful.
Well, I do. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Some
of them aren't, you know, like I. But my prime
example is this. And some people just can't get
it. I early fan and adopter of older movies and
black and white movies as a kid. But I was always
infatuated with Marilyn Monroe. Never wanted
to see her naked ever. Not a one. Didn't find
her sexy. I found her like beautiful and attractive,
but it's not as well because she's actually like
well I just I I get the vibe it just not like
that. Yeah, Lauren McCall Okay, same kind of
thing now if you if you go to you know, Faye
Dunaway certain, you know, that's different So
I can't there's different categories like some
are not sexy. Oh, it's called the skin I live
in It it's it's it's kind of a yeah, it's a wild
one Antonio Banderas. Yeah It's an indie, I think.
And maybe it's subtitled, but it's really he's
been in a lot of stuff. So our tagline is second
skin live in it. Yeah. Where do you live? Where
do you live in your second skin? Yeah. We ask
a lot of questions in our tagline. Yeah, we do.
I think questions are actually kind of part of
the tagline. It's either two questions or a lot
like. Yeah. Is it a place like a place to live?
Yeah. Second skin, a place to live. Because,
like, he's looking for a new place to live at
the end and she's getting her second skin. No.
I wonder if it's this tough to do this. Second
skin, stitched up. You're being very literal.
Like, you're getting into the peeling and the
stitching. But I think the idea is that she's
actually, like, she's stitching herself back
up together as well. Like, she's getting, her
life is coming back to... You know, we have not
really said much about her life. I assumed it
was fucking baller. Yeah, she's a surgeon. And
the complication is this whole pesky military
operation. You know, I think the pesky operation.
So she has just gotten tougher, you know, and
we're used to seeing her tougher, this actor.
Yeah. So like, you know, being a little bit,
you know, snotty and having to, you know, kind
of get real with it. Although she's married to
a high school teacher, I believe is where we
landed. And I think that's fucking great. The
devastatingly handsome. I love that. The irony
is like she would be and he's a rock. He was
a rock star. Beverly Hills was a rock star. Yeah.
And I use a guitar. That's totally true. My music
teacher to keep it real. You know, I stay here
for the kids. He definitely he definitely gets
a tag. He's definitely got like a catchphrase
that everybody remembers. My band was called
Poussin Boots. So I got the Expendables three.
Antonio Banderas' performance in that movie.
Was it great? You haven't seen that? I have not.
I stopped at the first, I'll be honest. Oh, they're
tremendous. And I know they're for a very small,
like, select group of movie -going people, like
my age specifically, my type. Oh, because it's
all our action films and the same shit, right?
But the third one, specifically him, it's...
out of this world. His performance is so great.
Mel Gibson is the villain is fucking fantastic.
Of course, he's always and they recruit some
new kids. But they all have their primary skin.
I believe they're all in their regular skin.
They're all just in their regular skin. What
are you wearing? What are you wearing? I think
busting out would be a good one. Seconds kid
busting out. Busting out. Well, it does sound
like a spy thriller. Yeah. Busting out. I think
that might be our best one so far. We might have
to think on this one. This might be the thing
we change up next time. That sounds a little
comedic, you know, maybe if that's like two on
the nose. Like second skin, there's the idea
that somebody's conscripted. They have to do
this thing. You don't know it until you watch
this glorious movie. You can always do drawn
in, which is another like, you know, like you're
actually tightening in drawn in. I think that
could work. That's beautiful. Second drawn in
oh, it's perfect because plastic surgery. Yeah,
you have to draw in the line Nice job drawn in
I love it seconds and it and it kind of rhymes
second skin drawn in That's our elevator pitch
for sure. That's great. Is it is that the finish
line? Did I do it? It's fantastic. We pull it
off as a team See, we don't need no dang computers
to think for us. You just need an hour and some
friendship And you know if I'm just just doing
a The quick look at the names in this movie.
I think this is a reasonable dollar amount here.
Yeah, I don't think we. Yeah, some people not
in the in the areas of their career. I think
all these people are alive and these are kind
of fantastical, but their counterparts. Yeah,
I think are reasonable. I think you know what
I mean? Back to our attention in the middle of
this, this would make a fun video game. Yeah,
this would be a good this would be a good this
one spy movie. You have to do the steps to get
to it. And then doing all doing the surgery has
to be the hardest video game thing ever. Oh,
for sure. Like all the steps you have to do to
make it right have to be impossible. It has to
take you 39 tries. It's a whole level in and
of itself. We start you there. I understand you.
Wild people enjoy these types of tortures. I
see it in your face. You are being true. That's
that's that's a kind of damage I can't identify
with. Funny is somebody would love it. I guarantee
it. I guarantee it. I'm in. I'm in to watch that.
I think maybe I would watch somebody just don't
throw your controller about. No, definitely.
I want to throw your I want to see controller
or at least this is complicated surgery. God
damn it. And this game is going to be difficult
if that's not a line in the movie. That's on
the trailer. This is a complicated surgery. Again,
if I'm if I'm allowing us a moment to look backwards.
I like the fact that we've got a fun, a little
bit of comedy with the, you know, I'm good with
a knife and we get to have some, she gets to
say that in the first surgery. She opening montage
surgery and like, yeah, I'm good with a knife.
I'm just, there's one thing I'm good with. It's
a knife and everybody just undercuts, you know,
like, yeah, of course you are. Don't undercut.
Oh, that's, if that's not a backup tagline, don't
undercut. Drawn in is great. I think it's absolutely
fantastic. I, and I'm glad that you were into
Holly Hunter. She is a tremendous actor that
just like, he's bonafide. Yeah. I'm so stoked
that you know her from that. That's a wonderful,
wonderful. That was probably the only thing you
were going to give me that was like, ah, yes,
I do know. I've seen that face. I know who you're
talking about. She is great. There's so many
actors and actresses in the world. It's impossible
to know them all. I'm sorry. She is one, specifically
though, it's the voice. So you get a lot of people
who just seem very sweet into it. She does seem
very sweet. But when she, you know, has to get
nasty. So but she could do and I wonder in her
career if she's played military, but she could
do when we when we get to writing the script
for this, we'll ask her. I think she'd just crush
on this. You know what? We'll make this animated
and that's no problem. Antonio Banderas, I think.
She's also a Tony if we have to get her for Antonia
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