Welcome to A Little Unscripted, the show where
we pull a random title, spin a random genre,
and then try to create a film that honestly shouldn't
work, and is impossible, and is way too expensive,
and no one's asking for, but that's the fun,
one idea, one hour, and zero guarantees. Let's
make this thing. Good day, I'm Ryan, and I'm
Logan, and no matter what. We are going to make
a movie today. Today again. Hell or high water.
Hell we did it. We're not going to make that
movie. That's a movie. If it wasn't made, I would
make that movie. Well, you could call it come
hell or high water and make it a porn. I don't
know. Do you see what I did? Is that one there
on our list? Do we have pornos? Is erotica part
of the list? This is something that's very fascinating
to me, Logan. I've not. Really looked at the
details of the list. I've been tempted you've
just I've been really tempted. Honestly, it's
all we've everybody listening and welcome We
are taking this very seriously and keeping hard
notes this very Obscure to us Although I didn't
preclude it from being on the list. Okay, it's
not it's not it's not excluded We could also
turn something into an erotic film if we want
to Only if there's vampires, there's got to be
vampires, right? Is that the most erotic of the
creatures? Of the creatures? I don't know. I
think Guillermo del Toro might have a word with
us. I want to know what mummies are up to. Rubbing
those wraps together, choking each other. It's
very kink -friendly. It's a very kink -friendly
film. Well, how could our last movie have been
made rated X? Because in the world of climbing...
I don't know if I want to make a Rayette X animated
film. I want to hear Missy Pyle maybe have to
give it to Louis Gossett Jr. I think you're living
in fantasy land, but I love it. I really enjoyed
the last movie we did, and we were talking about
this a little earlier. the idea of making an
animated film is fun because you're casting voices.
Yeah, it's something different where it's like
it's not just like the character actor or whoever
is like, no, no, no. I want to hear a voice that
like maybe you haven't quite heard before. And
that's pretty cool. Can I ask you a really serious
movie question? I hope so. Did not expect that.
I'm sorry that my brain was immediately. I'm
sorry. That was so rude of me. I apologize. I
love you. This is amazing. You dirty dog. I'm
so sorry. When you watch an animated movie, do
you delight in not knowing who the voices are
and then trying to figure out who they are? Yeah,
sometimes I think the best parts are actually
like when I watch the credits, I'm just like,
oh, wait, that was that person? Are you good
at the game? Sometimes, but then there are some
voice actors where you're just like, oh, you're
playing on a different level. Or you maybe don't
know their name. Yeah, or I just don't know them
specifically enough to call them out. When it's
clearly named actors. just doing a one off, you
know, what have you. Do you like that? Like trying
to suss out like who is who? Yeah, I think it's
pretty fun sometimes unless it's somebody super
obvious and you're like, well, unmistakable,
which is sometimes the point. Yeah. A fun benchmark
for that one, I think, is a movie like Sausage
Fest. Oh, really? Because it's got a lot of different
actors in it. And I think it pulled in a lot
of different voice actors who wouldn't normally
do something like that. But then you have people
like Ed Norton. who was doing a Woody Allen voice,
and I was like, no way could I have gotten that.
Right, you would have never guessed this person.
So that's what's kind of fun, too, is when you're
disbelieving when you see the cast. I do enjoy
that when I'm watching. And I don't always watch
the credits, but sometimes I'm like, hey, I got
to know who is the cast while I'm listening to
it. It's like, who was this voice? And it is
great being like, that's them? I'd have never
guessed that. And when they do, you know, in
the credits and they show them in the booth.
Oh, yeah. Hamming it up. Having a good time.
I want I would really as we mentioned last time
previously, I would love for us to have a post
credit scene of like the like the just the bloopers
animated bloopers, because I think that is just
so fun. Like from a bygone era. But like, why
can't we do this? Why can't we have fun again?
Like, well, there could be a lot of people in
Against Better Judgment. The bloopers could be
like blue screen, green screen bloopers. Do you
know what I mean? Yeah, it's a climbing film.
but we could have an insider inside blooper where
they're like, oh, we're not really, you know,
we're here on a stage and that's animated as
well. Is that the dumbest thing? We show that
they're making a movie inside of the movie. But
there's green screen there and there's no need
to be. I would love for the only way we do that
is if like we cut to the actors who like the
characters who survive and it's like them sitting
in the director's chair and then be like, how
is that? And it's like, that's not how it went
at all. That's not. and then like they give some
critique or something. That'd be really fun.
I would love to see that. Like that would be
a great post credit scene. That'd be so fun.
Or during credits. I don't know post credits,
but during credits. I look at during credits.
Post credits I think have gotten a little much.
It's like sometimes these credits are 20, 30
minutes. Not to say these people don't deserve
the recognition. I'm just saying the leave like
half a bit of a movie or a teaser or anything
for like the next movie. 30 minutes deep after
the movie is done and you're just sitting looking
at essentially a black screen. Yeah, kind of
like it feels like it's lost its luster and I
don't care anymore. I kind of wonder as an animator
or making an animated movie, you're like, I'm
going to do fucking credits now. Oh, man. You've
just spent 17 years animating this two hour movie
team of five. We have to do cool shit during
the credits. Yeah. Are you guys kidding me? Dick.
Yeah, they probably hate us. Let's be real. I
don't know. Well, I mean, maybe it's joy. It
depends on how enthusiastic we are. Yeah, yeah.
But if it was just, you know, just black screen
and some names, I would be like, you're fine.
Yeah, I understand. A masterwork in animation.
Yeah, I get it. I get it. I understand. Looking
at our last film, we reminisced. And to share
something with our listeners, one of my favorite
parts of this podcast. is when Logan gets here
and we start running this thing about the nonsense
we did before. Yeah, because sometimes you forget.
You black out for a moment. Well, typically I'm
affirmed that this was fun. This was a fun movie.
I always enjoy coming up with it. Even if it's
not our best works, I at least enjoy doing it.
Another serious question for you, and I think
I can handle this one, is have you watched Iron
Eagle? No, I did not, but it is on the list.
You allowed this very niche situation in our
last movie, which is voice work and reteaming
Jason Gedrick and Louis Gossett Jr., which is
super fun for like so few people. And definitely
an age demographic on this side of the table,
which is fun. But I think they're both good voice,
like they're recognizable voices. Louis Gossett
Jr. for sure, but I was thinking about this one.
I bet a lot of people hearing Jason Gedrick's
voice would recognize it. I think it's quite
unique. It's just one of those voices. I thought
it was kind of a throw away thing in a way, but
I think he does have a unique voice. So any retakes,
any upon thought. upon thought over the course
of the sense of the previous episode, I did read
a story of like these people were in Poland,
I want to say, or somewhere. I forget. Well,
maybe it wasn't Poland, but they were climbing
a mountain that supposedly like nobody had climbed
all the way to the top. Oh, we ripped off our
story. Maybe. Maybe we stole it. Sorry. How dare
we? There's only so many stories to tell in the
world. How dare we rip it off? But anywho, they
get to the top and like at the top sitting there
waiting for them, like grooming itself as a cat.
So I would love for, yeah, instead of Gary Busey
being like a human hermit, just like, there's
just like this ethereal, like, I don't know.
Voiced by him? Yeah, just this cat voiced by
him. Can you imagine what his hair would look
like? Oh, it'd be insane. Can I go back to this
cat in real life? Yes. Just a fucking cat? It
was just, just a cat. Not a cougar? Nope. A domestic
house cat. Was it wearing any kind of crown?
No. Any kind of vestiges? I didn't see a top
hat. I don't remember that. Nope. Just, just
a cat. I think that's probably the best slash
worst thing to find. Just, hey, here's a place
that humanity's never gone. Just to further fuck
you from cats. Hey, by the way, we got this too.
We were here first, man. Don't need you. Don't
need you. You need us. I second that. I think
that a cat, Bucey? Yeah. Still talks. Telepathically,
of course. Oh, yeah. Turns out it's a figment.
It's a hallucination, but it'd be so fun. This
is the thing about anime. Well, yes. You could
do it. Altitude. Yeah, altitude sickness. Yeah,
yeah. No oxygen. All right. Well, that being
said, I am very excited to look forward. And
if I may, I'll remind everybody of what we have
to do myself included of what we get to do here.
I'll replace that. So we have given ourselves
the task of getting a randomly generated movie
title that shouldn't be in existence, we hope.
And one of the after mentioned we do one of the
aforementioned genres. And in 60 minutes, we
must create a movie, verbally, plot to conclusion,
however that strikes us. However long that takes.
However what that feels like. You can't rush
perfection. Sometimes it's an avalanche and they
get out. Sometimes they don't. Sometimes a lot
happens. This story must include a character.
I think we've knocked that out of the park. We're
very ensemble forward. We went ham. with the
animation movie. I think we've kind of got all
of them. Why not get this person in? Granted,
nobody's given us a budget restriction. So like
we're dealing with unlimited budget so we can
go get these folks. I think this says that we
are collaborative filmmakers. I think so, even
if it's animation, especially. All right. And
this charade must have a director. We must name
them. We can find somebody. We can find somebody
to direct what we're trying to do. And. Again,
one of our favorite parts, a tagline makes it
breaks it. We have to sell this thing. Somebody
wants to buy this poster and we want it to be
a good one. Many movies have been sold on their
poster alone. Let's let's be real here. I think
that they have. They say don't judge a book by
its cover, but I think that we all do. Sorry.
Sometimes the cover makes or breaks it, and if
a movie poster is on the cover, then I don't
know what is. This is true. All right. Well,
I am going to ask the Genie for our numbers.
And our number between 1 and 100, and those are
titles, is 21 at this point. And our number between
1 and 55 is 36. 36. Ooh. Oh, OK. So six. I have
got the. Oh, wow. You've got the title. I've
got the the genre here. The dead attempt, the
dead attempt. Dead attempt, man. I don't know
how it does it. Is this is this thing magic?
I don't know. Now six, the genre is officially
a road movie. A road movie? A road movie. We're
making a road movie. I'm talking, let's see,
Easy Rider. Easy Rider. Definitely a road movie.
Very exciting. Cannonball Run. Hero's Journey.
Cannonball Run. You salty dog. I love those movies
so much because that brought us to the post credit
scenes with everybody cracking up. Death Wish.
They're starting out Death Wish Death Race. Let's
be ready for Death Wish. I don't think Death
Wish counts. Gosh, this is a great genre. You
know, the entire movie Mad Max Fury Road. Yeah,
definitely a road movie. All of Mad Max. When
you think... All of Mad Max is a road movie.
Touché. Except for Thunderdome. We are just talking
about Thunderdome. It permeates. Damn you, George
Miller. Tina Turner is so fucking good in that
movie. To this day, I just celebrate her performance.
What a great warlord of the wasteland. Truly.
Of all the warlords? Sing it to your doom and
you'd fucking love it. The hairstyle. I'm really
excited about this. And I think a road movie
is something that a lot of people can get down
with. Either people who like to drive and decidedly
do not like to drive because they can live vicariously.
Yeah, yeah. Through this, they get to live. They
get to live through the horrors of everyday driving.
What do people want? They want, you know, this
is finally the thing. It's the journey. Well,
we want death and mayhem. Blood makes the grass
grow, Ryan. Kill, dead attempt. Yeah, it's dead
attempt. That's a fun. That sounds like a metal
tune. Yeah. So all right, let's get this going.
Let's get the show on the road officially start
the start the time attempt the dead attempt the
road movie the dead That's a that's a sad sounding
name You know what? I mean, it does it does sound
like a sad film So we're gonna have to maybe
figure out what we want tonally out of this bad
boy. Do you have a favorite road movie? Oh favorite
I've never thought about a favorite road movie
does like Why am I spacing on the name? It doesn't
have to be iconic. No. Why am I spacing on the
name? Oh, my goodness. And they clearly all have
elements, you know, like it doesn't have to be.
Does Apocalypse Now count as a road movie? That's
fascinating. Does it count as a road movie? Yeah.
Journey. It definitely is a journey. I don't
know if there's not really any roads in the movie.
The river is a road. Is that is that road trip?
I love road trip. That's what introduced me to
my biggest Hollywood crush ever. But I like The
Long Dumb Road. That's one of my favorites with
Jason Manzoukas and Tony Vigalora, I think is
his name. And it's just traditional. You know
what I mean? It's a traditional road movie. And
it's a small movie. It's super funny and super
fun. But that's a recent one that I like. But
you're talking others. And I like the looser
interpretation of road movie. I mean, I'll be
honest, I think Mad Max is pretty great as a
road movie. The Road Warrior is perhaps one of
the greatest movies ever put to film. Well, we
can make this a very small movie if we'd like.
We could. Are we going to limit ourselves on
budget? Is this the time when we're like, no,
now we're going to limit ourselves? We had unlimited
budget up until now. OK, think about something
like Bonnie and Clyde or A Perfect World with
Kevin Costner and that kid. Does Thelma and Louise
count as a pro movie? A million percent. OK,
just want to make sure we're on the same page.
So I think we want a journey and it being on
a... paved road or other because there's yeah
like the road yeah yeah there's there's hiking
movies that you know the long walk just recently
came out but honestly oh yeah that's that's cool
yeah but i feel like a more traditional road
movie would be fun to make okay are you thinking
like comedy style because it's the dead attempt
are we talking like serious like So stuff's going
down. So it's like some people still trying to
follow the Grateful Dead. The dead at town. It's
one last ride for the dead. Oh, that would be
fun. I don't know much about that world, but
if that's a fun, you know, type of thing. It
turns out that it's like... one guy who just
never fell off the trip. And he's like, no, dude,
they're doing it one more time. And he's like,
the truth is they probably are. They've never
stopped. They were just at the sphere in Vegas.
Right. Like ethereally, they're still all here.
But what other elements of, you know, I, you
know, you look at I'd like for some reason with
this title on the natural born killers. OK, like
a road movie like that or see, I never got behind
it. I think. Like when you have villains on the
run. Okay. Which is Sundance. I was going to
mention butch and Sundance is a modern day version
of that. Does does the movie 21 Bridges count
as a. Road movie? I don't think so. No, I was
trying to make sure. It's definitely a cop movie.
It's two guys on the run. I'm just curious. Oh,
I see what you're saying. I'm just curious. I'm
curious. Oh, what 16 blocks? Yeah, like I'm just
curious at what point does the line get drawn?
Whereas like it's too small to not be a road.
You know, I would love for us because I think
we can. I'd like for us to make a traditional
road movie, figure out like what gets some people
on the road, whether it be. for violence, for
good, the best road movie of all time. Are you
ready for this? I'm ready to give you my favorite.
I think I've decided I've decided officially
my favorite road movie is a goofy movie. Is that
the name of it? Yeah, a goofy movie. Yes, sir.
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It's a pervert. It's a goofy
movie called Rat Race. No. Nope, it's the Disney
smart reference. But what is a goofy movie? You
haven't seen a goofy movie? Is that literally
the Disney character? Yes, it's literally the
Disney character goofy and his son like teenage
son Max go on like one last road trip before
like he's in high school or something like that
and like. It's all about like this dad trying
to connect with his son again. And of course,
it's like one of the best movies ever made. How
have you not seen it? You should put this on
your list. A goofy movie. It's perfect. It's
a perfect road trip. I don't have the heart and
soul for something like that, but I can pass
that along to others who do. You might cry. Those
of you listening at home, you might cry. I am
really shocked by what you just said there. I
didn't know that that was a thing. You didn't
know this was a thing? You know what it is? I
was a child at the time. So, of course, I've
seen this movie. OK. Well, is it of a time? Have
you seen it recently? Does it? I have not seen
it recently, but you know what? I bet. Is it
racist? No, I think it still beats the nostalgia
of like, you know, rosy glasses. I think it does.
Imagine if it is. There's like a driving daisy
scene or something, you know, like, oh, no, just
like just an odd laugh field joke, just like
a joke. OK, you mentioned an animal. Is there
an animal in our movie? Is there an animal or
movie? Maybe. Maybe this is an attempt to. Well,
I'm getting hung up on the title. Yeah. All right.
But wait, I like I like road movies that are,
you know, that have good chemistry and characters,
obviously. Here's a question. Does Zombieland
come as a road movie? Yeah. OK, 100 percent.
I could see this kind of being a post -apocalypse
like almost. zombie land meets the running man
kind of idea, like almost game showy. The dead
attempt. I could see this being like, hey, if
you can make it from this coast through like
this wasteland of America or whatever nation,
like, let's be real here. We got we got to have
fun with this. OK, can they can our heroes be
like super underdogs? Yes, of course. Honestly,
if. Can we make this as small as possible, though,
like the. Well, the idea is by that's still a
road movie. It's like maybe we like it feels
very much like I like the idea of death race,
but without like, let's kill pedestrians and
count that as points like maybe not have that.
You know what I'm saying? So zombie land with
a running man. Yeah, I think that could be pretty
fun, especially with the idea of it being the
dead attempt. I could definitely just using the
idea of like there's, you know, the coasts are
safe zones or some nonsensical rule set, you
know. Yeah. The idea that you got to make it
across the wasteland of like America would be
fun. Alternatively, Australia would be great
because Australia is just a giant. Just, you
know, the the the outback is called the outback
for a reason. I was like, why is that? Because
I don't have very much water. So like, right.
Just there's not much here, but like. This is
why Mad Max was so great. This is fun. All right.
So I get I get we're not doing a small cast.
This is a bigger movie. So what I'm interested
in right now is who is putting this on? Who is
the big who is the over? Yeah. Why are they doing
it? Because we're just talking about Donald Sutherland.
Yes. Oh, do you want Mr. I mean, you know, it
should be Sir. He's Canadian. Would it be Sir?
Sir. Sir. I don't think he was knighted, but
it should be. That's Great Britain. But, I mean,
technically, Canada's part of the Commonwealth.
So, like, theoretically, he could be knighted.
Looking at you with modern royalty. I'm fascinated
by who's putting this on and how to make it a
road movie. Yeah. You know, because it absolutely
can be. Are you thinking about focusing on a
couple of teams or maybe just focusing on one
team and really just hearing about everything
else and making it kind of interesting that way?
I think I think it'd be better. focusing on one
team. You still have multiple teams, but you
could make a big, small movie like you could.
You were like, everything else is implied. Everything
else. You know what I mean? And I was just taken
by an interesting idea that may not be interesting.
Let's hear Hardcore Henry. What if it was like
a POV movie with two people's POV? Never mind.
It's not that it can't work. It's it's so much
so. But like we could very like. Polarizing on
like yeah, how you make it like there's only
so much you could do I think unfortunately with
the idea of making this big concept unless you
wanted to do like a bunch of teams and introduce
them and Like have them compete, you know, we
check on them and they go very cannonball run
style thing But the idea of it being an indie
That's got some cool elements and like and that
kind of thing is kind of fun too. And yeah fun
story I, I can get behind the Indy. I like the
idea of what their experiences along the way,
which you could craft, you know, different ways
based on how long this journey is. You know what
I mean? I like the movie. You're like, Oh, it's
like that movie, um, monster. I don't know. It's
not district nine, but it's, it's, um, beware.
It's like, They have to go through monster infested.
But it's really small and it's on them. But there's
all this bigger thing going on. If I remember
correctly, Alex Garland also directed that. If
I'm thinking of the right film. It's cool. And
what you don't know, you can hear about things
like that. So are we suggesting that there's
a dead zone that they all have to drive through?
The whole thing is called the dead attempt. And
it's just like, this is where, like, all, like...
Has anybody done it? Let's say that there's,
like, a nuclear fallout and, like, you know,
modern technology doesn't work, so all, like,
these fancy teams show up, kind of have all the
good stuff, and they're like, we're gonna shut
it down. Well, is it kind of neat that they just
kind of all show up how they can show up? Ooh,
yeah. Another question is, it feels very... I
feel... Similar to the last one another like
the last one was a game show, but I'm curious
if this one will play a different like event
Because the last one was also a rescue attempt.
Oh was a competition. Yeah Yeah, this is a this
is like you you planted the seed with death race
2000 when you got here I did I did we should
go because if we make it a You know, there's
this wild world of this happening. Maybe it is
maybe it isn't it's just we're focusing on this
Do you think there's a time limit to this race?
Or is it just like, are they doing kind of a
cannonball run where there's like, hey, check
in points? Or is it like, hey, if you can make
it here in a month, you win. I think that's kind
of the first there. OK, first there. They, you
know, have to take they can take similar or different
routes. OK. And of course, you know, who's going
to choose maybe the same thing. All right. But
the idea that they all show up with are they
in cars? I think it's fun. I think it's got to
be a car. I think it's got to be fun of vehicles.
Everybody's got some kind of vehicle. They figured
it out. I don't want to get too hung up in that.
Yeah, but they're in something. And that's what's
kind of cool because, you know, from a design
standpoint, everybody's apocalypse looks different.
Yeah. And you can design their this world and
their car, their vehicle, kind of however you
want. Very much like Mad Max, your vehicle says
a lot about the character, and I think more so
than like anybody else. What do you think is
interesting about our characters? We talked about
them being maybe unlikely heroes or winners.
Yeah. Where does that fall with you on who do
you want to see in this movie? Like, what is.
What are the qualities where the. You know, is
this because I'd like for it not to be young.
OK, I'll like exclusively. Yeah. Hunger games.
Yeah. Maybe it's more. You're thinking not teen.
Why a. Yeah. Age of up a little bit. Right. Right.
Right. I like the idea that maybe they're nerds.
I like the idea of academics. I could see all
that. I like the idea of just like average Joe's
kind of style, like these are just folks. I would
like to see for some reason, because I don't
think you'd do it, but I think it'd be fun to
see Edward Norton. I don't know why we threw
his name out earlier, and I think Edward Norton
as a father figure would be fun. I was thinking
Aaron Eckhart. We've already previously... Have
we used him? We've already used the beautiful
Aaron Eckhart. Ed Norton. Yeah. Yes. I like Ed
Norton because he's... He's an every every person.
He is an every person. And I think it would fit
well to be like, he's totally underestimated.
Do you think that he's like a substitute team,
like their substitute team, like like they were
not supposed to be called up? You may have to
get into why this is happening. I love the idea
that these people are conscripted and just like
thrown together. That's I love Ed Norton. I think
we need to figure out who Ed Norton's partner
is. And whether it's a willing partner or not,
that might be interesting, too. I think that
both whoever's on his team, I think all parties
have been conscripted for this race. So they
have to do this. Yes. This is the I think this
is the heart of the story. The hardest story
is them figuring out who each other is, right?
Like they're finding their family. If that's
what it ends up being, that's a road trip movie.
Every road trip movie is about like a lot of
it, hating each other and then turning out like
and not knowing your partner sometimes. Yeah.
First thing you should do, ladies and gentlemen,
is whoever your partner is, is go on a road trip
for at least, I don't know, 20 hours. See if
you can handle it. That's a great idea. It's
the best and worst thing you could do, but do
it. So that's fascinating. Maybe, OK, throwing
it out there. Throw it out. And you could still
focus on one team. Yes. But let's say that before
this is started, they have a little bit of time
to... Get their vehicle together a little bit.
So they all like I go to the junkyard and like
yeah stuff together Which again you could allude
to other people always love always love good
montage So and in that way you they could start
to bond a little bit or not or what -have -you
Now I'm starting to think of who is a worthy
Man, I'd like to see another gent. I'd like to
see maybe this be a dude movie for now, but like
what do you think? would realistically be on
this team. Just two. Just two? Okay. Yeah. Okay.
Like this is like just a driver and a navigator.
So I like this being Ed Norton and a somebody
else literal vehicle. Okay. Because Ed Norton
could play a type, you know what I mean? For
sure. Could be an asshole. Could be in every
person. He could be whatever we need him to be.
But I like the idea of him being kind of... Decent
with maybe a hard edge. He needs to have a hard
edge. He's been conscripted into this race that
he doesn't... Does like a serious Owen Wilson?
A serious Owen Wilson? Or like a serious Steve
Zahn work in this scenario? I don't know if you've
proposed Zahn before, but I just... I don't know
if we have. Just might want to look at the transcript,
run it back. But the two of them... It can be
pretty fun. Steve Zahn is like a pretty good
series actor. He really, the fact of all the
stuff that he's been in, he always forgets, like,
oh yeah, he's been in a lot of stuff. And you
know, he can throw it down. He can. In all facets.
He's got the comedy bit down for sure. He can
be the funny man if required. Or like a Sam Rockwell.
But like, I kind of like the idea of Ed Norton
and Steve Zahn. I like that combo. I think that's
a solid combo in whatever character types we
attribute to them. I think they could do it either
way. Yes. But being underdogs is the general
type. Their car is definitely held together with
duct tape and dreams. Right now. Is this here
in America? Is this like a U .S. thing? Do we
care? I think that we could definitely. Do we
care? I think it doesn't matter. Could it be
like the future? Yeah. The near future. For sure.
I would love to do just the future. You know
what? It's coming soon. Is this all the world
or is this just a part of the world? I think
this is just taking place in a part of the world
right now. So we don't know where, why, it doesn't
matter. This is where we're at. This is the journey
ahead. I would love it to, like, we start at
the very beginning, blue sky, and it just says,
coming soon. And then we get straight into this,
like, preamble, like... first race and see how
like it turns out it's the highlight reel of
the previous year, of course. And then you got
to jump straight into Edward Norton. All right.
Let's get into this. So the there is technology.
Yes, I think so. I think it's definitely to us,
it's near future. I think we've got to do near
future. Right. So that gives us access to there
is the typical dynamic those who have have those
who don't don't that kind of thing. Yeah. It's
post -apocalyptic. It's built up a little bit.
I love the idea that we're being sponsored teams,
of course. So and it's I like that it's shabby,
though. You know what I mean? It's not great,
but it's it's like, here we are again. Fucking
U .S .A. We maybe we assume we're back this year,
but. You know, again, that gives a lot of, you
know, I look at some of the production design
even from like idiocracy at times, you know.
Yeah, yes. Very much like together. There's just
trash overflowing outside of apartment buildings.
It's like you could walk up the trash to get
to the door and that kind of stuff. Like, yes,
I think that's a very much this world that we're
living in. OK, so there is a way to see things
on screens ish, but it's still kind of rough
and ready and that kind of thing. I love the
idea that, you know, going from near future like.
because we live in a gambling society of sports
betting and everything. I love the idea that
like this is what's keeping the economy going
is like this sport. This is a big deal. Is there
is there currency as we know it? Or do we have
fun with, you know, kind of what is used as money
used as value in this time? What would you like
to see as well? You know, the classics are always
water and gas and resources, you know, things
of that nature. We. That's what I'm always fascinated
by is like what becomes a value in these times.
And that's typically a story element. It is.
You know what I mean? So it's electrolytes. The
plants need it. So it's got what plants crave.
You get electrolytes, you know, and sometimes
currency is more life. Sometimes currency is
freedom, you know, like. food, food, stuffs,
things like that. Do we want stakes of that nature?
I think so. I think you need to have like the
water company sponsoring, you know, one of the
teams. Like it's just you just go super. So like
resources, like the ability to live as currency.
Of course. You owe nothing and you'll be happy
about it. Yeah. So what you do is always how
they get you. That's always how they get you.
And our leads are again, maybe they're not the
most They're underdogs. They're not the most
adept. Yeah, they are getting by by the skin
of their teeth every instance. I think luck and
ingenuity are really on their side on this factor.
And you could hear how differently the other
teams are acting through what you're seeing as
they're on their little journey. And even through
some of the dialogue. Like, Jesus. Of course,
they're going to sound like if we're going to
do it and there's checkpoints, of course, there's
got to be like we got to have satirical, like,
you know, zoom in like team meeting stuff, right?
We're like, you check with the other teams like
that part of the race was like really, really
tough. But we we nailed it. You know, it's cool
to keep seeing them in the aftermath of stuff
and not really maybe knowing what's going on.
Is there a character that we can put in this?
And well. There's always a character like this,
like the liaison. Oh, yeah, there's a team manager.
Not manager maybe, but liaison to the overlordish
thing. Yeah, there's always there's always a
red tape person. And well, no, that's too Hunger
Games. And I was I was just thinking about but
somebody like an actor with some effervescence,
somebody. Calista Flock Hardy or like fairy like.
OK, I don't know, ethereal. Lori Petty, OK, played
Tank Girl. Great, great name call. You want her,
you know, as like the liaison. She's a little
like this, but a little wacky company running
the show here. And you know, because like in
Hunger Games, they all get their. Yeah. Assigned.
Yeah, I'm here. Elizabeth Banks is hers. I think
we should have that, too. I can see that. Just
in this gutter way they have. I'm sold. Laura
Petty is a great selection. Because she could
play probably very uptight and straight or just
maniacal and crazy. I think those options. Thank
you for allowing. That's a deep cut. And again,
she's so underrated. She's in point and break.
I love her in point and break. She's great. But
again, Tank Girl, everybody. That movie, aside
from the weird dog people. Aside from that, it's
great. You know, maybe it helps them out along
the way. Give them a couple of like, hey, there's
some good trash a little like, hey, let me drop
like the the file or a couple of piece of paper
with a little bit of help like she's playing
insider. Turns out she's actually got money riding
on this because, you know, this is stabilizing
the whole world economy. And do we have an idea
of the terrain and landscape? Do we want varied?
Oh, yeah, all over the place. We have to go through
city ruin. They have to go through. Yes, I want
to see a decrepit Vegas. If we're doing this
in America, there's going to be like, you know,
remember Resident Evil, the one where that takes
place in Vegas and like the whole city is like
sanded in. I think that'd be pretty fun. It could
be cooler if it's it's kind of like this is something
you could film in Ireland. Oh, yeah. You can
have like remnants of Belfast, a castle or something.
It would be cool. It could still maybe be the
U .S. You just don't know. I mean, all right.
Let me know if you want an iconic thing because
that would know. You're one of your favorite
films, Doomsday. The car scene at the end where
they're racing away from all this stuff. They
filmed most of that in South Africa. No kidding.
Yeah. And it's a stand -in for Scotland, but
you never knew. Yeah. Looks the same. You can
film it anywhere, man. Anywhere. Yeah. Depends
on where the camera angles at. But the choice
to do a Vegas thing is pretty... Yeah, I think
there needs to be a big city at least that you
drive through that's just a wrecked ruin of some
sort. I think that would be fun. That's that's
got to be part of the dead, but that's got to
be part of the dead zone, right? Like they go
through the dead zone. There's just little ruined
cities. Well, our team is as prepared as they
can be. Yes. Right. With what's happening. Lori
Petty is there and do we is Donald Sutherland,
the overlord of this place, or do we want to
like, how do we want to flush out the rest of
the cast and the trajectory? Because we don't
have a villain. That's true. Necessarily. That
is true. We don't necessarily. So I, but I think
there's somebody who is putting this thing on
like, and there can be characters surrounding
them. So like, who's the big bad and the number
two, who's, who's, who's the like, so you introduce
and you could introduce all these people in the
initial stages. Of course, of course. Right.
So there's like somebody petty is trying to keep.
you know, whoever is, is like the hard ass, like
our Lee Ermey. But like, like is, is enforcing
order, making sure things are cool in this little,
you know, debarkation point where they're getting
their junk. Okay. So if Donna Donald Sutherland
is, you know, our overlord, is he the warlord
of the wasteland? Warrior of the Wasteland. It's
too on the nose, I think, with the other thing.
No, I understand. So what's more fun coming...
Well, like we mentioned... What if Billy Zane
is the president of the world? Is the warrior
of the wasteland. He's the warrior of the wasteland?
Like the head of this thing. Okay. Yes. Evil.
Evil. Yeah. All right. Does he get a monologue
at the beginning? All of them. He gets on all
the monologues? I think that's fun. Like, and
that would be some... Like if you've ever seen
the movie with Nicolas Cage in Japan, Bill Mosley
plays the mayor of this town. So it's like the
Western Japanese culture. OK. Prisoners of the
Ghostland. It's so wild. Yeah. Yeah. We're like,
he's got the bomb on it. No, it's it's. Oh, yeah,
that's right. That's right. Hell comes to Frogtown.
Roddy Piper did it better. Roddy Piper. Roddy
Piper is our second to Billy Zane. He's the enforcer.
Of 100%. A hundred percent. Does he get to be...
How flamboyant do we allow him to be? Like super
gay? Just flamboyant? Yeah, or both. I that's
awesome. He doesn't have to be gay, just flamboyant.
Like he needs to be bananas. But I keep it like
this is an indie everybody. But no, that's fucking
awesome. I don't know if this movie can be indie.
Now that I keep thinking about it, like the more
I think about it. But if we keep all the other
big stuff like it could be a cannonball run where
you're following nine teams. It could be. But
it's fun to just keep focused on, you know, what
they see maybe until a certain point, you know.
So along the way along the way what kind of thing
they need to be besieged, right? Yes ones by
banditos Of course, we got to have we got to
have mutants or bandits of some sort Do you like
the idea that there's a mutant type of situation?
I read I do I do I also like the idea of like
Somehow the other racers view them as a threat
and like what if they're misunderstood and they're
really nice Oh, yeah, it turns out like hey,
by the way What if it turns out these mutants
are like actually really nice like you say but
like they hate the because the racers keep going
through their territory causing chaos every single
year. These guys show up and they're like, we're
about to kill them. They're like, hey, hold on.
And it turns out like, oh, you guys didn't mean
it. No, we got pushed off the overpass and ended
up here. We did not mean to be here. Could you
help us along the way? So we have the opportunity
for prosthetics. We have the opportunity for
- Of course. Ron Perlman. Yes. Oh, could be so
scary. He would be so terrifying. But then when
he downshifts. Yeah. Yeah. Ron Perlman is such
a friggin treasure. He's so good and everything.
And he's super diverse. I mean, like, but one
of the OGs with, you know, prosthetics and yeah,
him and Doug Jones. We reunite them. They don't
get a reunited. He was, you know, on the TV movie
with Linda Hamilton, Beauty and the Beast. Yeah.
Quest for Fire. way back in the day, dude's done
it. Blade two, obviously. And there's really
good, big physical presence chemistry in case
he and Roddy Piper have to wrestle. Oh, please.
I mean, they come back and they come back and
besiege the thing, right? Yeah, of course. Yeah.
Then we can have the show down. Yeah. Because
I was going to ask you, do you Want this to be
a thing where like it's a foregone conclusion.
Nobody wins and they running man style figure
it out and then yeah recruit Yeah, these different
all these different groups along the way. Yeah.
Yes, but before so I like the idea that the mutants
led by Ron Perot are you know in they're destroying
these things right because They have no choice.
They they're destroying their land. They're or
is it a threat that is just heard of? You know
what I mean? So that's what's always kind of
interesting where there's this threat. You don't
know if it's credible. Then you take a shot and
they're like, oh, no, we're cool. I don't I don't
know. I don't know. Right. Because other elements
of the road trip would be fun. What do you think?
Yeah, I think. Can we try and figure out some
other elements? Yeah, I'm interested in. Maybe
a siren. Oh, yeah. I was thinking the same thing.
Is there an element of that? I was thinking the
same thing. There's got to be like a brothel
or some sort, some like Vegas style, like Sintrap,
Honey Trap type thing that draws them in, of
course. And again, thinking about road movies,
Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? Oh, classic. Which
is clearly, it's tied to a piece of literature,
but the way they handle the sirens is really
cool. It is quite cool. And so I don't know a
lot about the literature. Well, you know, there's
a couple of brothels and in popular sci -fi movies
and who run bottom down Pluto Nash, maybe I don't
know but I don't know who run bottle town I could
see like that being the name of this town that
draws them in it's called barter town. Yeah,
that's nice They're in need of some some fuel
or something Tina Turner is the man of course
of course Are you serious? I'm a hundred percent.
Yeah heart attack series Tina Turner back for
bar is mistress in barter town. Yep. And it could
be an inside joke to once there was a movie.
Yeah. What am I still here? Cloning? One time
there was a movie. Yeah. Now what is this siren
song? Is it intercourse? Is it something else?
You know, cause I, I mentioned siren figuratively.
They are offering freedom. What if she's offering
them like, Hey, I can get you guys out of the
race, but like they've Like, they're at the point
now where they realize that, like, they have
a chance to do something bigger, right? Yeah.
Oh, so that's, like, a tipping point. Yeah, I
think that's where she's at. She's like, hey,
I can get you guys out of the race. Like, where
we are right now, like, if you guys want to leave,
I can get you guys out. OK. So you're not looking
into any maybe fantastical elements of this?
No, I think the idea of the siren sound is always
like, I'm going to tempt you with a thing you
want most. And one of these two dudes want the
most to get out of this race, right? So let me
offer you the thing that you want, or like, I
want to leave the race so I can go see my family,
or whatever it is their motivating factors are.
So we didn't get there. Yeah. Why do we care
about these gentlemen? Yeah. I think, well, they've
both been conscripted, of course. Yeah. I think
that's the idea of, like, their average joes.
These are just folks. I think the idea of Edward
Norton being, although, like, Tom Hanks and,
like, Saving Private Ryan, like, he's just a
teacher. Turns out you wound up in the wrong
place at the wrong time kind of situation from
a writing standpoint and acting standpoint, you
know, in that gets know you seen in the previous
place, you can create some empathy for their
stories without. Oh, yeah. What's what? OK, so
we're rooting for them. They're underdogs. They're
generally kind. They do their best. Yeah, they
keep skating by. Are there any other? I like
the idea of them really having to face some confrontation,
though. Yeah, I think the other racers are really
seeing them as a threat. Well, the other races
are ostensibly maybe on similar parallel journeys,
but on different paths. So you're hearing what's
going on with them. And it could be that's what's
kind of cool and manipulative. You can be like,
oh, fuck, that's happening. So you just assume.
But like they should have to fight. Yeah, there's
got to be a car battle. Is that what you're suggesting?
Well, you know, like other marauders that really
want to take their shit. Yeah, yeah, there's
some people that like they definitely get into
a... What if they're kids? And it's like really...
The marauders are kids? Well, like teens or something,
you know what I mean? And it's serious enough
to be like 18... These are all parentless kids?
Yeah, children of the corn thing. And that's
what's really hard. They're running around in
old racers cars. Well, it's interesting that
they're pushed like their morality is pushed
a little bit. That would be fun. That would be
really interesting. Could we have a young Leonardo
DiCaprio heading those Feral Teens? As the Feral
Teen lead? As the, yes. That would be very interesting.
But as Bill the Butcher? He's playing Bill the
Butcher. How old's DiCaprio in your mind? I'm
imagining Romeo and Juliet age, but playing.
Well, maybe like a little past that, you know,
catch me if you can. Is he in prosthetics? He's
a marauder. Yeah, I think there's like a lord
of the flies. Yeah, I mean, look at how just
nuts he can be. Yeah, unhinged. Imagine if somebody
knew what he was capable of back then and was
like, here, play this. You want to see an unhinged
team DiCaprio. I'm down. I'm down. As maybe 20,
whatever that the era is. But like he's because
he it's got a look like he's got a really kind
of unique in like, you know, the eyes when he
really goes, you know, he's got the Mel Gibson.
He's got the crazy. You know, so young Leo is
the head of this thing and they get besought.
Yeah. And they have to like maybe they do get
caught. Yeah. Is there something like they have
that he wants or is it just like it's just banality?
It's nice that they don't have to do maybe real
violence on them. But they do have to do a little
bit. They get their tires blown out. Yeah. But
they can use their intellect to give them something.
OK. And then they get roped back in on the way
back to storm the Capitol. I got you. I got you.
They they woo them with something along the way.
And then, you know, DiCaprio gets, you know,
Tina Turner's like, yeah, turns out like because
they've been so cut off, they give them like
their CB radio or something like that. Like something
simple, something super simple. Like these kids
are like, we've been disconnected from the world
and he's like here. They have to be scary. They
have to be really fucking medicine. Terrifying.
Yes. Is there another young person that could
be thrown in there? Like, what if? Young Natalie
poor man. Yeah, I was just gonna say somebody
like that. Would you stop stealing my brain cell?
Oh, yeah. Yeah again fucking unhinged unhinged
Just why V for vendetta shaved head the Caprio's
character looks sane. I love it. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, I love it. Oh My gosh, you could do it.
Yes. Yes Well speaking of her I think we have
a lot of people. Yeah, I think we have quite
a cast going right now. Oh, that's awesome All
right. So what they what they are along the way,
they are only be sought like hardcore once. Yeah.
Then they have the sirens. OK. So are we thinking
do we start with the mutants or is the mutants
at the very end? I like the mutants kind of in
between maybe. OK. So we start with the teens.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, I think that would be
cool. OK. And then maybe another. threatening
thing. Something that they can't reason with
that they have to escape from, I think, is the
idea. Because you can't win everybody over, unfortunately.
I think this one needs to be perhaps maybe not
supernatural. Oh, what a hitchhiker. A hitchhiker?
Oh, they meet somebody along the way. Who do
they meet? It's got to be a hot person, I'm sorry.
We've got to meet somebody just like, we're in
the middle of the wasteland and we meet like
some much as beautiful. Alice Eve. Alice Eve.
Well, she was in Star Trek Into Darkness. She
played the RoboCop's daughter. Oh, OK. She's
really, like, cool, very pretty. I could do crazy,
probably. Very visually striking. I don't know.
That's the first person I've had in my head.
OK. It's somebody like that, because I could
just see somebody. Natasha Henstridge. Natasha
Henstridge. Species. Oh. OK. OK. I guess I've
seen. I'm just exposing my inner self right now.
Hey, let me pull out every beautiful woman I've
ever heard of. Denise Richards. How about, you
know, let me pull. Let me peel these layers like
onions. Forgive me. But that could be a fun thing
because like you don't know, like a serial killer
or some shit. Yeah, yeah, like this person. And
you're like, you idiots. And that's like one
of the big rules. A hundred percent. Don't do
it. A hundred percent. Yes. And this person could
like hijack him and make him go the wrong way.
This person steals their car. And well, no, like
maybe. But I have to kill this person. Yeah.
I think I think that this person is trying to
kill them, like in their camp, like at that night,
like they're trying to go to sleep and like.
The one part, Timothy's on, is it Tim's on? Steve's
on. I don't know why I keep wanting to say Timothy's
on. Steve's on. He wakes up to see that Edward
Norton's being choked out and has to do what
has to be done. Yeah, I think so. I'm with you.
I think that he gets to play the sympathetic
dad character. Can we hone in on that a little
bit? So temperament for them. So we want them
likeable. Yeah, I think they need to be likable.
Is Edward Norton downright a little bit meek?
Yeah, I wonder if he, you know, plays really
intellectual. I think he's definitely a very
much turn the other cheek kind of situation.
And Steve Zahn is more the lovable, like, dad
type, but you know, has fist fought a few people
there and there. He's been at a bar fight or
two, yeah. Yeah. But yeah, they both do that
really, really well. They would both do that
real well. And a little bit of humor? For sure.
There's better be some humor in this. We don't
make some jokes. What if it's full on just like
dry humor from... Oh, just witty? He makes a
joke and just like Steve Zahn just never reacts.
He respects Steve Zahn to do his thing. Yes,
a hundred percent. But they have to be good jokes.
Yeah, we definitely need that. Yeah, he keeps
trying to hit him with like just one line. He's
like, have you heard this one before? Yeah. Have
you heard this one before? Have you heard this
one? That's really funny to me. Steve Zahn is
just like, he's just constantly looking out the
window, just like, fuck. Yeah. I'm trying to
think of a director right now. Oh, I'm trying
to think like we haven't given a director yet.
So I was trying to think of who the suggestions,
the idea of it being small is something that
I don't think limits us because, you know, Gosh
I have a suggestion. Yeah, I this is why I was
looking up if you were wondering. Oh, yeah Yeah,
when we look at over here, I'm doing I would
I would like to see Brad Bird do this What did
he do? He did the Iron Giant the Incredibles
he did more recently. He did I believe Let's
see mission impossible ghost protocol the Incredibles
2 Yeah, dudes done a lot Brad Bird Oh, Brad Bird,
yeah. He did Ratatouille. Apologies, I forgot
he did Ratatouille. So like live action -y. Yes.
I think that's great. I think he's... He'd get
it. He'd get it. He understands it. He understands
what we're looking for. We're looking for a little
zany, a little wild, not quite full Mad Max,
but like Mad Max adjacent, right? Right. Road
trip movie. Is it all family fun or are we still
talking like there's still some blood and guts?
Like, are we talking like PG -13 or are we talking
R? Because I would like to see an R. Just feels
that way. I'm with you on that. I like the idea
that the the teenage stuff is intense. Yeah,
I think it's like you say, we got to have some
moral quandaries. It could be scaled back. Yeah,
I don't think we have to be grotesque about it,
but I think it should still be an R rated movie.
Could Paul W .S. Anderson write it? Yes. Yes,
he could direct it to like, you know, I know
we're but I'm like a fan of Resident Evil and
I don't know if death race he did. It would be
fun. Fucking event horizon. He did do that. Let's
be real. Is he going serious or is he going a
little too campy? I think honestly. I think this
could be a drama. Oh, OK. So he's going pretty
serious on this. I think if he goes a little
more serious and like we don't we try and avoid
the camp, I think it'd be pretty fun. Yeah. Not
to say camp doesn't have its place. I just don't
think that that's the tone we want to set for
this. Yeah. Right. Exactly. OK. The dead attempt
directed by Bat and Brad Bird. Yeah, that's I
bet. Again, it would feel big without being big.
Yeah. He'd kill it. The story would have to be
good. The characters are good. I mean, even just
doing the animated stuff. You think of all the
stuff that he's done and you're like, all of
those have very heartfelt characters. So I think
that he would definitely make sure that that's
coming through in this movie. Exactly. The. So
I like the idea that they're finally turned around
and and in the right way now and are recruiting
everybody on the way back. Are they forgotten
about like or is there like they're getting close
to like the dead? Yeah, assume their deaths are
faked. when they give out their CB radio, it
turns out like that was how they were tracking
them. So they don't actually know that these
guys are coming back or have no idea what's happening.
Exactly. And they just show up at like the last
thing. Yeah. Like the last checkpoint for the
award ceremony or something like that. And the
idea that, you know, they're they're bringing
a gang with them. Yes. No, no, they're not bringing
a gang with them. The gang is already there.
They show up and like the gang's already there.
Beat them to it. That'd be pretty funny. They
took the high -speed rail, you know, the gang
was already there. Oh, okay, okay. I get this.
I get this. Now, we have a couple of showdowns
that can happen. Ooh, like Wild West showdowns
or just like other team showdowns? I like that.
Oh, well, see, like Tina Turner could have to
fight Lori Petty. Ooh. We get a showdown in the
brothel and then barter down. No, like this is
at the Capitol like they're taking things over,
right? This is our finale. I thought Laura Petty
was going to. Was she going to have a turn of
heart at the end or? I don't know. I don't know.
She works for the for the crew. OK, maybe there
is a is our turn or Rodriguez. Ronda Rousey situation
Okay, but they fight they don't hate each other
But in the situation they had to fight and they
then they okay become friends and the sequel
you got Perlman and Roddy Piper Yes, yes, go
on it with some and Roddy Piper's gonna be just
going in this fight is eight minutes longer than
the fight and they live. Is there a, like, Roadhouse
style, like, so he pulls somebody's throat out?
Is that how the fight ends? I don't know. That
could be a surprise amount of violence. And people
are like, hard pass, great until the end. Hold
on, hold on. This is where we pass? The rainbow
apocalypse, and this is where we pass? Wait a
second. Who's our hitchhiker? Did we ever settle
on a hitchhiker? You said Denise Richards. Yeah,
I think. Forgive me. I just looked at the note.
Did we figure out who the hiker? I don't think
we did. We didn't. We didn't give anybody. Because
we are sorry. I just sidetracked us massively.
No, it's OK with the character types. Steve's
on. We're going right back. Let's go back. Time
Steve's on. Is murdering said hiker. Oh, yeah
who you said and I'm with you needs to be somebody
of certain attraction Yeah, and it didn't need
to be a lady. No, it could be Killian Murphy
Oh, it could be it could be kill him her V. Could
you imagine that'd be great those eyes that be
wild That would that be so fun to do just out
of nowhere like Turns out I mean what a psychopath
what it's like really turn that on because he's
played a bad guy in a few things and he's yeah
really really good at it, but yeah, I I like
the idea of somebody who's just like you you
wouldn't this is what makes it was a Jason Bateman
and like so terrifying or American Psycho like
this is what makes American Psycho, Christian
Bale's character like he's beautiful, but also
he's a psycho. But somebody like Jason Bateman
again with that normal. Just an everyday. OK,
so Killian Murphy is our psycho. So it turns
out I like the idea of him being like a previous
racer who's just been like wandering the wasteland.
That's really that's the joke. He's trying to
save them from like the inevitability of like
their their doom by just killing them. Yeah.
It's the dead attempt. It's the dead attempt.
You're like, duh. Don't you guys get it? Dead
attempt. You guys just don't get it. Yes. Is
he like some stoner out there, bro? This is the
problem. I love this. Oh, wait, slightly charming
and menacing. Yes. Yes, totally. And full Irish
accent. Oh, just full like subtitle. Like we
bring in subtitles for him. So just immediately.
It's so heavy. And they're like tripping over
them. As funny as it would be. It doesn't mean
to be fun to just like to take this idea as like
if we were doing just a really fun fourth wall
break, it'd be really funny if the subtitles
were like legit. And one of the characters actually
legit tripped over them, like in scene, breaking
the fourth wall. That's happened a few times.
So funny to do in movies and or they're recognized,
you know, like the subtitles. Yeah. I don't think
this the tone is a bit absurd, as fun as it is.
But I do like the idea of him being a little
fun with Killian Murphy and that. There's decidedly
no infected or zombies in this. Oh yeah, of course.
And he's like, at least it's not fucking zombies.
Yeah, yeah. And then we throw the number 28.
Oh, their car is number 28. Yes, yeah. And he's
like, fucking A. Does he get PTSD or something?
Just for fun. That's fun for a few people. Like
he gets into their car and he's like, we're going
to have to change that number. Yes, yes, I love
it. It's just a stupid throwaway joke. I like
the idea. I mean, it's heartbreaking, though,
if he kidnaps them in earnest and makes them
go out of the way. Yeah. And what's cool about
that is you can make that heartbreak in the moment,
but we find out that it doesn't matter. You know
what I mean? Yeah. So when they get themselves
rid of a beautiful, non -zombified Killian Murphy,
they're on their way back. You know, and they
realized, well, they were supposed to be, you
know, toasted. And yeah, the plan was that they
were all going to die anyway. It was right from
the start. It was rigged from the start. Yeah.
Watercoat was going to win this year. OK, they
paid beaucoup bucks. Now, what's interesting
is we can make no mention further of the other
teams and presupposing they. die on this thing.
No, no, I don't think we can. Are we building
an expanded universe where this race happens
infinitely and we just we go through like, well,
we speed racer and we have a bunch of other teams.
The idea we tried to make this small, I think
the small road movie apocalypse movie. We still
find out about them through whatever this way
of technology is. I love it. It sounds fun. And.
You know, they are obviously on the hero's journey
and take a different path. And the path that
they take is the one that keeps them safe. It's
the most dangerous road they could possibly be
taking, of course. The dead attempt. The road
is literally called the dead attempt. It's like
it's got a skull with axes for eyes and whatnot.
It's like nobody takes this road since the last
person. Who was Killian Murphy? It's called the
fucking dead attempt. Killian Murphy was the
last one to attempt the road. Of course. Of course
he was. Of course he was. This is a fun cast
that I'm just now I'm just looking. Yeah. At
a certain period of time, this movie could happen.
Yeah, it happened. I think it's the week week
week. I mean, today, I think everybody's still
with us. I think Lori Petty has actually passed,
unfortunately. Don't don't break my heart like
that. How dare you? What does this movie sound
like? Oh. I mean, you don't want Hans Zimmer
going every five minutes. Or do you want... I
think there's a score to this, right? There's
definitely a score. I think this has to have
a score. I think it's more orchestral. And I
think music for... I'm thinking about all the
road movies and they're typically... A lot of
them are songs, you know, because people are
listening to... No, no, I think not. I think
a score is awesome. It would be interesting to
do a bunch of needle drops of, like, them keep,
like, every time they stop or something or another,
like, you know, at some random just out there,
like, decrepit building where, like... There
could be songs in there, but, like, I think there
should be a score. I like the idea of one of,
at some point, like, they stop, use the bathroom,
and, like, one of them finds a cassette tape,
and it's, like... Oh, interesting. It's The Gambler
by Kenny Rogers. And they're like, what's this?
And they happen to have a cassette. The Gambler.
Yeah. What's that about? Share. Why that? Yeah,
yeah, yeah. I don't know. It seems like it would
fit the motif of the film. And that everything's
being propped up by this betting sports culture.
Oh, like, I don't know if they're these guys
are being they were conscripted into this race.
They're kind of gambling with their lives unwillingly.
I feel like if they would definitely fit the
themes. You like that song. It's a catchy tune.
It's a great tune. Also, Kenny Rogers is a national
treasure. No one to hold them. He's still with
us. Is that a cameo? Oh, we live in the world
of our of our fantasy land here in this in this
dome domicile. Yeah. So, yes, even if he's passed,
he's still with us and he can make a cameo sitting
all dusty on a porch. Yes, he's definitely he's
definitely doing and hold them. No one to fold
them. Yes, for sure. Here's this guy over here.
Here's my next question for you. Yeah, we did
this to ourselves again What we got I don't know
how much time all the tagline. Yeah. Yeah, we're
not worried We're gonna this tagline is gonna
be so easy. This is music Oh music, but what
do you so the time I don't have a tagline thought
we have it's the dead attempt And I've liked
the idea that they're they're taking it down
Like, you know, they're doing something that's
impossible. They're turning this around and the
final. OK, the dead attempt. I like the idea
of like the tagline somehow being part of the
title. And it becomes like a full sentence, like
the dead attempt something. Oh, I got you. You
know what you're saying? Like that could be really
fun. I see what you're saying. The dead attempt,
the possible would be pretty cool. I could see
that working for this. Okay, well something like
this Because I mean does also fit the theme of
like these guys were destined for death like
let's be real here then They're the dead attempting
this the dead attempt. Oh, they're the dead attempt.
I get you I get you Just spitball in here. I'm
none so bold You know The dead attempt I see
the poster. I almost do. Yeah, I can see it.
And then it being small, you know what I mean?
Uh -huh. But who, like, are, is the Road Warrior,
are those scores? Oh, I think so. Those are scores.
I think that is a scored, like, all of them.
I don't think any of them have a real quote -un
-po piece of music. Oh, see, this is, yeah, Brian
May. Not of Queen, but Brian May did the Road
Warrior. Okay. That's not a good poll. I'm just
saying So the dead attempt No one wins Maybe
the dead attempt no one wins because in the end
no one maybe Maybe yeah, that's too cheesy. Never
mind. I rescind I rescind Well, do you want it
to be uplifting or do you want it to be ambiguous?
That's the thing about that We end on a Rocky
four photo finish. Rocky four. If I'm mistaken,
they end Rocky four on a photo like cliffhanger
and we tell nobody anything. Am I mistaken? Am
I the wrong Rocky? There's a few of them. Sorry.
That's interesting. Well, let's see. The dead
attempt. I want Alan Silvestri to do the score.
Who's Alan Silvestri? Let's see. Well, he did
the Back to the Future movies, but he's done
Beowulf, Eraser, The Mummy Returns. He did Predator.
I can see this. I can see this. Solid candidate.
Solid candidate. I was going to just say, who
was I just thinking? For music? Is that too big?
No, I don't think it's too big. Do me a favor.
Could you look up who did the who composed the
movie Sahara? The two thousand five. I want to
like have Tyler Bates. Who's Tyler Bates? Tyler
Bates. He did. We did doomsday. OK. I mean, he
eventually did Guardians of the Galaxy. OK. Oh,
he did. But back in the day, he did a lot of
small stuff. I can see him doing that. Sahara.
Yeah. Who is that? Sahara. Clint Mansell. What
else is Clint done? Oh, yes. Requiem for a Dream,
The Fountain, The Wrestler. Yes. Would you like
to see that? That would be awesome. I think he's
got quite a repertoire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And
High Rise. Oh, that's a really good movie. Did
we find a winner? Nice composer. OK, OK. Nice
one. I can't believe he did. I can't believe
he did Sahara. And we're getting another team
up, another mash up here. That's awesome. Nice
one. Nice one. All right. So tagline. The dead
attempt. The dead attempt. I mean, they do it.
They really do it. The dead attempt. Yeah, they
do it. I mean, the dead attempt. They do it.
You know, tagline the wrong way to the wrong
way to the wrong way. The dead attempt to the
wrong way. No to the wrong way to T. W. O. Number
two. Yeah. To the wrong way. Yeah. Or go the
wrong way. I'm trying to see. I'm trying to go
the dead way. Go the dead way. Give the dead
away. You know, like right away. It was just
like the dead attempt. The long way home. No
way home. There is no home. Yeah. They're conscripted.
They have to do this. It's sad. It's a sad, sad
thing. But in the end, they like they take it
back. The dead attempt. You know, so like it's
not necessarily it's two road movies. It's one
down and one back. One down and one back. The
dead attempt. One down, one back. I like that.
That's a good one. Pretty cool. That's a pretty
good one. I like that. This sounds like a really
fun movie. It really does. I want to see this
movie. Is this a problem? I'm getting into the
idea of road movies that show don't or tell don't
show sometimes. You know what I mean? Like the
idea that you can do all this stuff with a certain
world where they're getting these updates on
what the other team is doing. So is it interesting
that the other team literally all just die out
there? We don't tell them how they died. Like
it's better to leave it to the imagination. Or
do you think? Do we give them like newscast updates
or like, we've lost contact. Yeah, because they
are taken right. They are taken off the path
a couple of times. Yeah. Ostensibly, these people
who are like. I don't know, for whatever reason,
you know, thought they were tougher, you know,
went against the grain where these. Yeah. Everybody
else did the thing that they thought they were
going to do. And they're like, this is the way
that we're always funny. Like with the mutants,
when they're like, no, we're cool. Yeah, man.
Sorry. We did not mean to do that. But like a
really psycho hitchhiker, a really psycho group
of like wasteland teens. That's reality. That
could be happening. But the way that they do
what they do. Yeah, in the way that they approach
it. Not to say that Leo can't do it, but I would
like to just see Natalie Portman as a wild, just
unhinged teen leader by herself would be great.
Oh, by herself? By herself. I think, not to pull
away from Leo, but I think hers is being - He's
out of the film? He's out. I think - Fuck you,
Leo. Sorry, Leo. It was a last man decision.
Had to save some money. Leo, we cut you right
here right now. We have a better film for you,
Leo. We'll find you one, I'm certain. Natalie
Portman... Gosh, you could have possibly had
a teenage just unhinged, like, like the cult
of personality, like, you know, barbarianist
tribe leader. She hip hops. Yeah. Yes, for sure.
Like violently. She definitely does. She gets
some gangster rap. One hundred percent. She gets
a gangster rap scene. And like, it's terrifying.
Yeah, absolutely. Like you had on her staff.
Yes. Yep, I'm down. She's got shoes made of like
children's. Stop tempting me with a good time,
Ryan. I'm already sold. To two to two child trip
cages are my shoes. My shoes. Oh, no. How about
you? If this movie wasn't R, it's definitely
R now. Toby Hooper could maybe direct this as
well. It could turn into a horror movie. It could
spin off in a lot of different ways. This movie
is definitely toeing a line and I love it. Do
we do everything? I'm looking at the clock. We're
running down to the final seconds. We did plot
to conclusion tagline, character, director. We
did it. Brad Bird, please reach out. We'll make
this movie with you. You know what? I think we
would, wouldn't we? I would. You would. Let's
do it. We're done. We did it again. And again,
if anybody's interested, anybody out there, please,
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