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Welcome to A Little Unscripted, the show where

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we pull a random title, spin a random genre,

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and then try to create a film that honestly shouldn't

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work, and is impossible, and is way too expensive,

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and no one's asking for, but that's the fun,

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one idea, one hour, and zero guarantees. Let's

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make this thing. Good day, I'm Ryan, and I'm

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Logan, and no matter what. We are going to make

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a movie today. Today again. Hell or high water.

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Hell we did it. We're not going to make that

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movie. That's a movie. If it wasn't made, I would

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make that movie. Well, you could call it come

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hell or high water and make it a porn. I don't

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know. Do you see what I did? Is that one there

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on our list? Do we have pornos? Is erotica part

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of the list? This is something that's very fascinating

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to me, Logan. I've not. Really looked at the

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details of the list. I've been tempted you've

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just I've been really tempted. Honestly, it's

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all we've everybody listening and welcome We

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are taking this very seriously and keeping hard

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notes this very Obscure to us Although I didn't

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preclude it from being on the list. Okay, it's

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not it's not it's not excluded We could also

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turn something into an erotic film if we want

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to Only if there's vampires, there's got to be

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vampires, right? Is that the most erotic of the

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creatures? Of the creatures? I don't know. I

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think Guillermo del Toro might have a word with

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us. I want to know what mummies are up to. Rubbing

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those wraps together, choking each other. It's

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very kink -friendly. It's a very kink -friendly

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film. Well, how could our last movie have been

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made rated X? Because in the world of climbing...

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I don't know if I want to make a Rayette X animated

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film. I want to hear Missy Pyle maybe have to

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give it to Louis Gossett Jr. I think you're living

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in fantasy land, but I love it. I really enjoyed

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the last movie we did, and we were talking about

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this a little earlier. the idea of making an

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animated film is fun because you're casting voices.

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Yeah, it's something different where it's like

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it's not just like the character actor or whoever

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is like, no, no, no. I want to hear a voice that

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like maybe you haven't quite heard before. And

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that's pretty cool. Can I ask you a really serious

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movie question? I hope so. Did not expect that.

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I'm sorry that my brain was immediately. I'm

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sorry. That was so rude of me. I apologize. I

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love you. This is amazing. You dirty dog. I'm

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so sorry. When you watch an animated movie, do

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you delight in not knowing who the voices are

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and then trying to figure out who they are? Yeah,

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sometimes I think the best parts are actually

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like when I watch the credits, I'm just like,

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oh, wait, that was that person? Are you good

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at the game? Sometimes, but then there are some

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voice actors where you're just like, oh, you're

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playing on a different level. Or you maybe don't

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know their name. Yeah, or I just don't know them

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specifically enough to call them out. When it's

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clearly named actors. just doing a one off, you

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know, what have you. Do you like that? Like trying

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to suss out like who is who? Yeah, I think it's

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pretty fun sometimes unless it's somebody super

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obvious and you're like, well, unmistakable,

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which is sometimes the point. Yeah. A fun benchmark

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for that one, I think, is a movie like Sausage

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Fest. Oh, really? Because it's got a lot of different

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actors in it. And I think it pulled in a lot

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of different voice actors who wouldn't normally

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do something like that. But then you have people

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like Ed Norton. who was doing a Woody Allen voice,

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and I was like, no way could I have gotten that.

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Right, you would have never guessed this person.

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So that's what's kind of fun, too, is when you're

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disbelieving when you see the cast. I do enjoy

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that when I'm watching. And I don't always watch

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the credits, but sometimes I'm like, hey, I got

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to know who is the cast while I'm listening to

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it. It's like, who was this voice? And it is

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great being like, that's them? I'd have never

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guessed that. And when they do, you know, in

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the credits and they show them in the booth.

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Oh, yeah. Hamming it up. Having a good time.

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I want I would really as we mentioned last time

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previously, I would love for us to have a post

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credit scene of like the like the just the bloopers

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animated bloopers, because I think that is just

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so fun. Like from a bygone era. But like, why

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can't we do this? Why can't we have fun again?

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Like, well, there could be a lot of people in

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Against Better Judgment. The bloopers could be

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like blue screen, green screen bloopers. Do you

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know what I mean? Yeah, it's a climbing film.

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but we could have an insider inside blooper where

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they're like, oh, we're not really, you know,

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we're here on a stage and that's animated as

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well. Is that the dumbest thing? We show that

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they're making a movie inside of the movie. But

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there's green screen there and there's no need

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to be. I would love for the only way we do that

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is if like we cut to the actors who like the

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characters who survive and it's like them sitting

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in the director's chair and then be like, how

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is that? And it's like, that's not how it went

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at all. That's not. and then like they give some

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critique or something. That'd be really fun.

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I would love to see that. Like that would be

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a great post credit scene. That'd be so fun.

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Or during credits. I don't know post credits,

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but during credits. I look at during credits.

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Post credits I think have gotten a little much.

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It's like sometimes these credits are 20, 30

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minutes. Not to say these people don't deserve

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the recognition. I'm just saying the leave like

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half a bit of a movie or a teaser or anything

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for like the next movie. 30 minutes deep after

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the movie is done and you're just sitting looking

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at essentially a black screen. Yeah, kind of

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like it feels like it's lost its luster and I

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don't care anymore. I kind of wonder as an animator

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or making an animated movie, you're like, I'm

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going to do fucking credits now. Oh, man. You've

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just spent 17 years animating this two hour movie

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team of five. We have to do cool shit during

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the credits. Yeah. Are you guys kidding me? Dick.

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Yeah, they probably hate us. Let's be real. I

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don't know. Well, I mean, maybe it's joy. It

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depends on how enthusiastic we are. Yeah, yeah.

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But if it was just, you know, just black screen

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and some names, I would be like, you're fine.

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Yeah, I understand. A masterwork in animation.

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Yeah, I get it. I get it. I understand. Looking

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at our last film, we reminisced. And to share

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something with our listeners, one of my favorite

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parts of this podcast. is when Logan gets here

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and we start running this thing about the nonsense

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we did before. Yeah, because sometimes you forget.

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You black out for a moment. Well, typically I'm

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affirmed that this was fun. This was a fun movie.

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I always enjoy coming up with it. Even if it's

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not our best works, I at least enjoy doing it.

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Another serious question for you, and I think

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I can handle this one, is have you watched Iron

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Eagle? No, I did not, but it is on the list.

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You allowed this very niche situation in our

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last movie, which is voice work and reteaming

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Jason Gedrick and Louis Gossett Jr., which is

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super fun for like so few people. And definitely

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an age demographic on this side of the table,

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which is fun. But I think they're both good voice,

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like they're recognizable voices. Louis Gossett

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Jr. for sure, but I was thinking about this one.

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I bet a lot of people hearing Jason Gedrick's

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voice would recognize it. I think it's quite

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unique. It's just one of those voices. I thought

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it was kind of a throw away thing in a way, but

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I think he does have a unique voice. So any retakes,

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any upon thought. upon thought over the course

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of the sense of the previous episode, I did read

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a story of like these people were in Poland,

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I want to say, or somewhere. I forget. Well,

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maybe it wasn't Poland, but they were climbing

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a mountain that supposedly like nobody had climbed

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all the way to the top. Oh, we ripped off our

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story. Maybe. Maybe we stole it. Sorry. How dare

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we? There's only so many stories to tell in the

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world. How dare we rip it off? But anywho, they

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get to the top and like at the top sitting there

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waiting for them, like grooming itself as a cat.

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So I would love for, yeah, instead of Gary Busey

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being like a human hermit, just like, there's

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just like this ethereal, like, I don't know.

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Voiced by him? Yeah, just this cat voiced by

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him. Can you imagine what his hair would look

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like? Oh, it'd be insane. Can I go back to this

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cat in real life? Yes. Just a fucking cat? It

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was just, just a cat. Not a cougar? Nope. A domestic

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house cat. Was it wearing any kind of crown?

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No. Any kind of vestiges? I didn't see a top

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hat. I don't remember that. Nope. Just, just

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a cat. I think that's probably the best slash

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worst thing to find. Just, hey, here's a place

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that humanity's never gone. Just to further fuck

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you from cats. Hey, by the way, we got this too.

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We were here first, man. Don't need you. Don't

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need you. You need us. I second that. I think

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that a cat, Bucey? Yeah. Still talks. Telepathically,

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of course. Oh, yeah. Turns out it's a figment.

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It's a hallucination, but it'd be so fun. This

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is the thing about anime. Well, yes. You could

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do it. Altitude. Yeah, altitude sickness. Yeah,

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yeah. No oxygen. All right. Well, that being

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said, I am very excited to look forward. And

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if I may, I'll remind everybody of what we have

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to do myself included of what we get to do here.

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I'll replace that. So we have given ourselves

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the task of getting a randomly generated movie

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title that shouldn't be in existence, we hope.

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And one of the after mentioned we do one of the

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aforementioned genres. And in 60 minutes, we

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must create a movie, verbally, plot to conclusion,

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however that strikes us. However long that takes.

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However what that feels like. You can't rush

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perfection. Sometimes it's an avalanche and they

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get out. Sometimes they don't. Sometimes a lot

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happens. This story must include a character.

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I think we've knocked that out of the park. We're

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very ensemble forward. We went ham. with the

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animation movie. I think we've kind of got all

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of them. Why not get this person in? Granted,

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nobody's given us a budget restriction. So like

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we're dealing with unlimited budget so we can

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go get these folks. I think this says that we

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are collaborative filmmakers. I think so, even

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if it's animation, especially. All right. And

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this charade must have a director. We must name

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them. We can find somebody. We can find somebody

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to direct what we're trying to do. And. Again,

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one of our favorite parts, a tagline makes it

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breaks it. We have to sell this thing. Somebody

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wants to buy this poster and we want it to be

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a good one. Many movies have been sold on their

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poster alone. Let's let's be real here. I think

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that they have. They say don't judge a book by

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its cover, but I think that we all do. Sorry.

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Sometimes the cover makes or breaks it, and if

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a movie poster is on the cover, then I don't

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know what is. This is true. All right. Well,

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I am going to ask the Genie for our numbers.

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And our number between 1 and 100, and those are

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titles, is 21 at this point. And our number between

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1 and 55 is 36. 36. Ooh. Oh, OK. So six. I have

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got the. Oh, wow. You've got the title. I've

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got the the genre here. The dead attempt, the

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dead attempt. Dead attempt, man. I don't know

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how it does it. Is this is this thing magic?

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I don't know. Now six, the genre is officially

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a road movie. A road movie? A road movie. We're

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making a road movie. I'm talking, let's see,

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Easy Rider. Easy Rider. Definitely a road movie.

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Very exciting. Cannonball Run. Hero's Journey.

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Cannonball Run. You salty dog. I love those movies

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so much because that brought us to the post credit

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scenes with everybody cracking up. Death Wish.

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They're starting out Death Wish Death Race. Let's

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be ready for Death Wish. I don't think Death

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Wish counts. Gosh, this is a great genre. You

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know, the entire movie Mad Max Fury Road. Yeah,

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definitely a road movie. All of Mad Max. When

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you think... All of Mad Max is a road movie.

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Touché. Except for Thunderdome. We are just talking

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about Thunderdome. It permeates. Damn you, George

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Miller. Tina Turner is so fucking good in that

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movie. To this day, I just celebrate her performance.

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What a great warlord of the wasteland. Truly.

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Of all the warlords? Sing it to your doom and

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you'd fucking love it. The hairstyle. I'm really

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excited about this. And I think a road movie

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is something that a lot of people can get down

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with. Either people who like to drive and decidedly

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do not like to drive because they can live vicariously.

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Yeah, yeah. Through this, they get to live. They

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get to live through the horrors of everyday driving.

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What do people want? They want, you know, this

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is finally the thing. It's the journey. Well,

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we want death and mayhem. Blood makes the grass

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grow, Ryan. Kill, dead attempt. Yeah, it's dead

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attempt. That's a fun. That sounds like a metal

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tune. Yeah. So all right, let's get this going.

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Let's get the show on the road officially start

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the start the time attempt the dead attempt the

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road movie the dead That's a that's a sad sounding

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name You know what? I mean, it does it does sound

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like a sad film So we're gonna have to maybe

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figure out what we want tonally out of this bad

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boy. Do you have a favorite road movie? Oh favorite

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I've never thought about a favorite road movie

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does like Why am I spacing on the name? It doesn't

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have to be iconic. No. Why am I spacing on the

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name? Oh, my goodness. And they clearly all have

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elements, you know, like it doesn't have to be.

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Does Apocalypse Now count as a road movie? That's

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fascinating. Does it count as a road movie? Yeah.

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Journey. It definitely is a journey. I don't

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know if there's not really any roads in the movie.

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The river is a road. Is that is that road trip?

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I love road trip. That's what introduced me to

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my biggest Hollywood crush ever. But I like The

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Long Dumb Road. That's one of my favorites with

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Jason Manzoukas and Tony Vigalora, I think is

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his name. And it's just traditional. You know

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what I mean? It's a traditional road movie. And

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it's a small movie. It's super funny and super

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fun. But that's a recent one that I like. But

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you're talking others. And I like the looser

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interpretation of road movie. I mean, I'll be

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honest, I think Mad Max is pretty great as a

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road movie. The Road Warrior is perhaps one of

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the greatest movies ever put to film. Well, we

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can make this a very small movie if we'd like.

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We could. Are we going to limit ourselves on

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budget? Is this the time when we're like, no,

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now we're going to limit ourselves? We had unlimited

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budget up until now. OK, think about something

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like Bonnie and Clyde or A Perfect World with

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Kevin Costner and that kid. Does Thelma and Louise

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count as a pro movie? A million percent. OK,

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just want to make sure we're on the same page.

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So I think we want a journey and it being on

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a... paved road or other because there's yeah

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like the road yeah yeah there's there's hiking

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movies that you know the long walk just recently

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came out but honestly oh yeah that's that's cool

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yeah but i feel like a more traditional road

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movie would be fun to make okay are you thinking

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like comedy style because it's the dead attempt

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are we talking like serious like So stuff's going

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down. So it's like some people still trying to

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follow the Grateful Dead. The dead at town. It's

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one last ride for the dead. Oh, that would be

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fun. I don't know much about that world, but

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if that's a fun, you know, type of thing. It

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turns out that it's like... one guy who just

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never fell off the trip. And he's like, no, dude,

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they're doing it one more time. And he's like,

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the truth is they probably are. They've never

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stopped. They were just at the sphere in Vegas.

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Right. Like ethereally, they're still all here.

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But what other elements of, you know, I, you

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know, you look at I'd like for some reason with

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this title on the natural born killers. OK, like

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a road movie like that or see, I never got behind

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it. I think. Like when you have villains on the

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run. Okay. Which is Sundance. I was going to

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mention butch and Sundance is a modern day version

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of that. Does does the movie 21 Bridges count

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as a. Road movie? I don't think so. No, I was

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trying to make sure. It's definitely a cop movie.

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It's two guys on the run. I'm just curious. Oh,

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I see what you're saying. I'm just curious. I'm

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curious. Oh, what 16 blocks? Yeah, like I'm just

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curious at what point does the line get drawn?

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Whereas like it's too small to not be a road.

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You know, I would love for us because I think

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we can. I'd like for us to make a traditional

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road movie, figure out like what gets some people

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on the road, whether it be. for violence, for

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good, the best road movie of all time. Are you

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ready for this? I'm ready to give you my favorite.

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I think I've decided I've decided officially

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my favorite road movie is a goofy movie. Is that

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the name of it? Yeah, a goofy movie. Yes, sir.

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Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It's a pervert. It's a goofy

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movie called Rat Race. No. Nope, it's the Disney

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smart reference. But what is a goofy movie? You

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haven't seen a goofy movie? Is that literally

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the Disney character? Yes, it's literally the

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Disney character goofy and his son like teenage

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son Max go on like one last road trip before

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like he's in high school or something like that

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and like. It's all about like this dad trying

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to connect with his son again. And of course,

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it's like one of the best movies ever made. How

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have you not seen it? You should put this on

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your list. A goofy movie. It's perfect. It's

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a perfect road trip. I don't have the heart and

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soul for something like that, but I can pass

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that along to others who do. You might cry. Those

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of you listening at home, you might cry. I am

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really shocked by what you just said there. I

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didn't know that that was a thing. You didn't

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know this was a thing? You know what it is? I

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was a child at the time. So, of course, I've

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seen this movie. OK. Well, is it of a time? Have

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you seen it recently? Does it? I have not seen

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it recently, but you know what? I bet. Is it

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racist? No, I think it still beats the nostalgia

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of like, you know, rosy glasses. I think it does.

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Imagine if it is. There's like a driving daisy

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scene or something, you know, like, oh, no, just

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like just an odd laugh field joke, just like

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a joke. OK, you mentioned an animal. Is there

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an animal in our movie? Is there an animal or

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movie? Maybe. Maybe this is an attempt to. Well,

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I'm getting hung up on the title. Yeah. All right.

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But wait, I like I like road movies that are,

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you know, that have good chemistry and characters,

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obviously. Here's a question. Does Zombieland

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come as a road movie? Yeah. OK, 100 percent.

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I could see this kind of being a post -apocalypse

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like almost. zombie land meets the running man

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kind of idea, like almost game showy. The dead

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attempt. I could see this being like, hey, if

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you can make it from this coast through like

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this wasteland of America or whatever nation,

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like, let's be real here. We got we got to have

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fun with this. OK, can they can our heroes be

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like super underdogs? Yes, of course. Honestly,

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if. Can we make this as small as possible, though,

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like the. Well, the idea is by that's still a

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road movie. It's like maybe we like it feels

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very much like I like the idea of death race,

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but without like, let's kill pedestrians and

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count that as points like maybe not have that.

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You know what I'm saying? So zombie land with

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a running man. Yeah, I think that could be pretty

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fun, especially with the idea of it being the

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dead attempt. I could definitely just using the

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idea of like there's, you know, the coasts are

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safe zones or some nonsensical rule set, you

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know. Yeah. The idea that you got to make it

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across the wasteland of like America would be

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fun. Alternatively, Australia would be great

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because Australia is just a giant. Just, you

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know, the the the outback is called the outback

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for a reason. I was like, why is that? Because

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I don't have very much water. So like, right.

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Just there's not much here, but like. This is

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why Mad Max was so great. This is fun. All right.

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So I get I get we're not doing a small cast.

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This is a bigger movie. So what I'm interested

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in right now is who is putting this on? Who is

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the big who is the over? Yeah. Why are they doing

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it? Because we're just talking about Donald Sutherland.

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Yes. Oh, do you want Mr. I mean, you know, it

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should be Sir. He's Canadian. Would it be Sir?

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Sir. Sir. I don't think he was knighted, but

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it should be. That's Great Britain. But, I mean,

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technically, Canada's part of the Commonwealth.

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So, like, theoretically, he could be knighted.

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Looking at you with modern royalty. I'm fascinated

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by who's putting this on and how to make it a

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road movie. Yeah. You know, because it absolutely

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can be. Are you thinking about focusing on a

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couple of teams or maybe just focusing on one

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team and really just hearing about everything

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else and making it kind of interesting that way?

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I think I think it'd be better. focusing on one

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team. You still have multiple teams, but you

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could make a big, small movie like you could.

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You were like, everything else is implied. Everything

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else. You know what I mean? And I was just taken

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by an interesting idea that may not be interesting.

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Let's hear Hardcore Henry. What if it was like

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a POV movie with two people's POV? Never mind.

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It's not that it can't work. It's it's so much

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so. But like we could very like. Polarizing on

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like yeah, how you make it like there's only

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so much you could do I think unfortunately with

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the idea of making this big concept unless you

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wanted to do like a bunch of teams and introduce

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them and Like have them compete, you know, we

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check on them and they go very cannonball run

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style thing But the idea of it being an indie

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That's got some cool elements and like and that

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kind of thing is kind of fun too. And yeah fun

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story I, I can get behind the Indy. I like the

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idea of what their experiences along the way,

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which you could craft, you know, different ways

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based on how long this journey is. You know what

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I mean? I like the movie. You're like, Oh, it's

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like that movie, um, monster. I don't know. It's

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not district nine, but it's, it's, um, beware.

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It's like, They have to go through monster infested.

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But it's really small and it's on them. But there's

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all this bigger thing going on. If I remember

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correctly, Alex Garland also directed that. If

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I'm thinking of the right film. It's cool. And

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what you don't know, you can hear about things

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like that. So are we suggesting that there's

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a dead zone that they all have to drive through?

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The whole thing is called the dead attempt. And

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it's just like, this is where, like, all, like...

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Has anybody done it? Let's say that there's,

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like, a nuclear fallout and, like, you know,

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modern technology doesn't work, so all, like,

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these fancy teams show up, kind of have all the

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good stuff, and they're like, we're gonna shut

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it down. Well, is it kind of neat that they just

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kind of all show up how they can show up? Ooh,

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yeah. Another question is, it feels very... I

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feel... Similar to the last one another like

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the last one was a game show, but I'm curious

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if this one will play a different like event

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Because the last one was also a rescue attempt.

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Oh was a competition. Yeah Yeah, this is a this

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is like you you planted the seed with death race

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2000 when you got here I did I did we should

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go because if we make it a You know, there's

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this wild world of this happening. Maybe it is

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maybe it isn't it's just we're focusing on this

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Do you think there's a time limit to this race?

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Or is it just like, are they doing kind of a

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cannonball run where there's like, hey, check

00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:24.079
in points? Or is it like, hey, if you can make

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it here in a month, you win. I think that's kind

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of the first there. OK, first there. They, you

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know, have to take they can take similar or different

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routes. OK. And of course, you know, who's going

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to choose maybe the same thing. All right. But

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the idea that they all show up with are they

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in cars? I think it's fun. I think it's got to

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be a car. I think it's got to be fun of vehicles.

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Everybody's got some kind of vehicle. They figured

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it out. I don't want to get too hung up in that.

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Yeah, but they're in something. And that's what's

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kind of cool because, you know, from a design

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standpoint, everybody's apocalypse looks different.

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Yeah. And you can design their this world and

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their car, their vehicle, kind of however you

00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:11.099
want. Very much like Mad Max, your vehicle says

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a lot about the character, and I think more so

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than like anybody else. What do you think is

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interesting about our characters? We talked about

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them being maybe unlikely heroes or winners.

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Yeah. Where does that fall with you on who do

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you want to see in this movie? Like, what is.

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What are the qualities where the. You know, is

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this because I'd like for it not to be young.

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OK, I'll like exclusively. Yeah. Hunger games.

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Yeah. Maybe it's more. You're thinking not teen.

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Why a. Yeah. Age of up a little bit. Right. Right.

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Right. I like the idea that maybe they're nerds.

00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:52.640
I like the idea of academics. I could see all

00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:56.579
that. I like the idea of just like average Joe's

00:25:56.579 --> 00:25:59.470
kind of style, like these are just folks. I would

00:25:59.470 --> 00:26:00.950
like to see for some reason, because I don't

00:26:00.950 --> 00:26:02.930
think you'd do it, but I think it'd be fun to

00:26:02.930 --> 00:26:04.509
see Edward Norton. I don't know why we threw

00:26:04.509 --> 00:26:06.589
his name out earlier, and I think Edward Norton

00:26:06.589 --> 00:26:08.769
as a father figure would be fun. I was thinking

00:26:08.769 --> 00:26:12.410
Aaron Eckhart. We've already previously... Have

00:26:12.410 --> 00:26:14.809
we used him? We've already used the beautiful

00:26:14.809 --> 00:26:19.789
Aaron Eckhart. Ed Norton. Yeah. Yes. I like Ed

00:26:19.789 --> 00:26:23.420
Norton because he's... He's an every every person.

00:26:23.619 --> 00:26:27.119
He is an every person. And I think it would fit

00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:30.900
well to be like, he's totally underestimated.

00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:33.380
Do you think that he's like a substitute team,

00:26:33.660 --> 00:26:36.500
like their substitute team, like like they were

00:26:36.500 --> 00:26:38.299
not supposed to be called up? You may have to

00:26:38.299 --> 00:26:41.160
get into why this is happening. I love the idea

00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:43.380
that these people are conscripted and just like

00:26:43.380 --> 00:26:45.960
thrown together. That's I love Ed Norton. I think

00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:48.519
we need to figure out who Ed Norton's partner

00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:51.220
is. And whether it's a willing partner or not,

00:26:51.339 --> 00:26:53.900
that might be interesting, too. I think that

00:26:53.900 --> 00:26:56.539
both whoever's on his team, I think all parties

00:26:56.539 --> 00:27:00.099
have been conscripted for this race. So they

00:27:00.099 --> 00:27:02.099
have to do this. Yes. This is the I think this

00:27:02.099 --> 00:27:03.279
is the heart of the story. The hardest story

00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:05.400
is them figuring out who each other is, right?

00:27:05.460 --> 00:27:07.500
Like they're finding their family. If that's

00:27:07.500 --> 00:27:09.259
what it ends up being, that's a road trip movie.

00:27:09.660 --> 00:27:11.619
Every road trip movie is about like a lot of

00:27:11.619 --> 00:27:13.819
it, hating each other and then turning out like

00:27:13.819 --> 00:27:16.099
and not knowing your partner sometimes. Yeah.

00:27:16.299 --> 00:27:18.000
First thing you should do, ladies and gentlemen,

00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:20.039
is whoever your partner is, is go on a road trip

00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:24.160
for at least, I don't know, 20 hours. See if

00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:26.440
you can handle it. That's a great idea. It's

00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:28.680
the best and worst thing you could do, but do

00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:33.779
it. So that's fascinating. Maybe, OK, throwing

00:27:33.779 --> 00:27:35.440
it out there. Throw it out. And you could still

00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:40.220
focus on one team. Yes. But let's say that before

00:27:40.220 --> 00:27:42.700
this is started, they have a little bit of time

00:27:42.700 --> 00:27:46.019
to... Get their vehicle together a little bit.

00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:48.480
So they all like I go to the junkyard and like

00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.660
yeah stuff together Which again you could allude

00:27:52.660 --> 00:27:54.740
to other people always love always love good

00:27:54.740 --> 00:27:57.619
montage So and in that way you they could start

00:27:57.619 --> 00:28:00.019
to bond a little bit or not or what -have -you

00:28:00.019 --> 00:28:03.900
Now I'm starting to think of who is a worthy

00:28:03.900 --> 00:28:06.359
Man, I'd like to see another gent. I'd like to

00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:10.640
see maybe this be a dude movie for now, but like

00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:12.849
what do you think? would realistically be on

00:28:12.849 --> 00:28:15.609
this team. Just two. Just two? Okay. Yeah. Okay.

00:28:15.750 --> 00:28:17.970
Like this is like just a driver and a navigator.

00:28:17.990 --> 00:28:19.130
So I like this being Ed Norton and a somebody

00:28:19.130 --> 00:28:23.269
else literal vehicle. Okay. Because Ed Norton

00:28:23.269 --> 00:28:27.029
could play a type, you know what I mean? For

00:28:27.029 --> 00:28:29.049
sure. Could be an asshole. Could be in every

00:28:29.049 --> 00:28:31.730
person. He could be whatever we need him to be.

00:28:31.950 --> 00:28:35.400
But I like the idea of him being kind of... Decent

00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:37.240
with maybe a hard edge. He needs to have a hard

00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:39.119
edge. He's been conscripted into this race that

00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:42.559
he doesn't... Does like a serious Owen Wilson?

00:28:43.420 --> 00:28:46.319
A serious Owen Wilson? Or like a serious Steve

00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:49.940
Zahn work in this scenario? I don't know if you've

00:28:49.940 --> 00:28:51.619
proposed Zahn before, but I just... I don't know

00:28:51.619 --> 00:28:53.839
if we have. Just might want to look at the transcript,

00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:59.950
run it back. But the two of them... It can be

00:28:59.950 --> 00:29:03.329
pretty fun. Steve Zahn is like a pretty good

00:29:03.329 --> 00:29:06.809
series actor. He really, the fact of all the

00:29:06.809 --> 00:29:08.569
stuff that he's been in, he always forgets, like,

00:29:08.710 --> 00:29:11.930
oh yeah, he's been in a lot of stuff. And you

00:29:11.930 --> 00:29:15.329
know, he can throw it down. He can. In all facets.

00:29:15.589 --> 00:29:17.809
He's got the comedy bit down for sure. He can

00:29:17.809 --> 00:29:20.769
be the funny man if required. Or like a Sam Rockwell.

00:29:21.069 --> 00:29:23.450
But like, I kind of like the idea of Ed Norton

00:29:23.450 --> 00:29:25.930
and Steve Zahn. I like that combo. I think that's

00:29:25.930 --> 00:29:28.390
a solid combo in whatever character types we

00:29:28.390 --> 00:29:31.630
attribute to them. I think they could do it either

00:29:31.630 --> 00:29:35.309
way. Yes. But being underdogs is the general

00:29:35.309 --> 00:29:37.849
type. Their car is definitely held together with

00:29:37.849 --> 00:29:41.009
duct tape and dreams. Right now. Is this here

00:29:41.009 --> 00:29:44.049
in America? Is this like a U .S. thing? Do we

00:29:44.049 --> 00:29:45.930
care? I think that we could definitely. Do we

00:29:45.930 --> 00:29:49.529
care? I think it doesn't matter. Could it be

00:29:49.529 --> 00:29:53.190
like the future? Yeah. The near future. For sure.

00:29:53.420 --> 00:29:56.720
I would love to do just the future. You know

00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:01.059
what? It's coming soon. Is this all the world

00:30:01.059 --> 00:30:03.140
or is this just a part of the world? I think

00:30:03.140 --> 00:30:04.960
this is just taking place in a part of the world

00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.339
right now. So we don't know where, why, it doesn't

00:30:08.339 --> 00:30:10.579
matter. This is where we're at. This is the journey

00:30:10.579 --> 00:30:13.099
ahead. I would love it to, like, we start at

00:30:13.099 --> 00:30:15.200
the very beginning, blue sky, and it just says,

00:30:15.220 --> 00:30:17.720
coming soon. And then we get straight into this,

00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:20.710
like, preamble, like... first race and see how

00:30:20.710 --> 00:30:22.930
like it turns out it's the highlight reel of

00:30:22.930 --> 00:30:26.390
the previous year, of course. And then you got

00:30:26.390 --> 00:30:29.269
to jump straight into Edward Norton. All right.

00:30:29.349 --> 00:30:32.630
Let's get into this. So the there is technology.

00:30:32.950 --> 00:30:36.430
Yes, I think so. I think it's definitely to us,

00:30:36.430 --> 00:30:38.210
it's near future. I think we've got to do near

00:30:38.210 --> 00:30:42.329
future. Right. So that gives us access to there

00:30:42.329 --> 00:30:44.930
is the typical dynamic those who have have those

00:30:44.930 --> 00:30:48.460
who don't don't that kind of thing. Yeah. It's

00:30:48.460 --> 00:30:50.660
post -apocalyptic. It's built up a little bit.

00:30:50.740 --> 00:30:52.380
I love the idea that we're being sponsored teams,

00:30:52.380 --> 00:30:56.460
of course. So and it's I like that it's shabby,

00:30:56.539 --> 00:30:58.180
though. You know what I mean? It's not great,

00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:00.839
but it's it's like, here we are again. Fucking

00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:04.359
U .S .A. We maybe we assume we're back this year,

00:31:04.460 --> 00:31:06.579
but. You know, again, that gives a lot of, you

00:31:06.579 --> 00:31:08.140
know, I look at some of the production design

00:31:08.140 --> 00:31:10.500
even from like idiocracy at times, you know.

00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:13.359
Yeah, yes. Very much like together. There's just

00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.039
trash overflowing outside of apartment buildings.

00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.059
It's like you could walk up the trash to get

00:31:18.059 --> 00:31:20.000
to the door and that kind of stuff. Like, yes,

00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:22.339
I think that's a very much this world that we're

00:31:22.339 --> 00:31:25.559
living in. OK, so there is a way to see things

00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:29.279
on screens ish, but it's still kind of rough

00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:30.880
and ready and that kind of thing. I love the

00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.099
idea that, you know, going from near future like.

00:31:33.150 --> 00:31:35.450
because we live in a gambling society of sports

00:31:35.450 --> 00:31:37.109
betting and everything. I love the idea that

00:31:37.109 --> 00:31:39.089
like this is what's keeping the economy going

00:31:39.089 --> 00:31:41.710
is like this sport. This is a big deal. Is there

00:31:41.710 --> 00:31:44.970
is there currency as we know it? Or do we have

00:31:44.970 --> 00:31:48.369
fun with, you know, kind of what is used as money

00:31:48.369 --> 00:31:51.910
used as value in this time? What would you like

00:31:51.910 --> 00:31:55.470
to see as well? You know, the classics are always

00:31:55.470 --> 00:31:59.089
water and gas and resources, you know, things

00:31:59.089 --> 00:32:02.480
of that nature. We. That's what I'm always fascinated

00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:06.220
by is like what becomes a value in these times.

00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:09.880
And that's typically a story element. It is.

00:32:09.900 --> 00:32:13.160
You know what I mean? So it's electrolytes. The

00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.140
plants need it. So it's got what plants crave.

00:32:15.140 --> 00:32:17.980
You get electrolytes, you know, and sometimes

00:32:17.980 --> 00:32:20.420
currency is more life. Sometimes currency is

00:32:20.420 --> 00:32:24.960
freedom, you know, like. food, food, stuffs,

00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:27.759
things like that. Do we want stakes of that nature?

00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:30.420
I think so. I think you need to have like the

00:32:30.420 --> 00:32:32.700
water company sponsoring, you know, one of the

00:32:32.700 --> 00:32:35.539
teams. Like it's just you just go super. So like

00:32:35.539 --> 00:32:38.099
resources, like the ability to live as currency.

00:32:38.220 --> 00:32:40.960
Of course. You owe nothing and you'll be happy

00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:43.220
about it. Yeah. So what you do is always how

00:32:43.220 --> 00:32:45.160
they get you. That's always how they get you.

00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:50.640
And our leads are again, maybe they're not the

00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:55.180
most They're underdogs. They're not the most

00:32:55.180 --> 00:32:58.140
adept. Yeah, they are getting by by the skin

00:32:58.140 --> 00:33:01.880
of their teeth every instance. I think luck and

00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:04.000
ingenuity are really on their side on this factor.

00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:06.920
And you could hear how differently the other

00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:10.380
teams are acting through what you're seeing as

00:33:10.380 --> 00:33:14.319
they're on their little journey. And even through

00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.980
some of the dialogue. Like, Jesus. Of course,

00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:19.480
they're going to sound like if we're going to

00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:21.059
do it and there's checkpoints, of course, there's

00:33:21.059 --> 00:33:23.279
got to be like we got to have satirical, like,

00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:25.799
you know, zoom in like team meeting stuff, right?

00:33:25.900 --> 00:33:27.359
We're like, you check with the other teams like

00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:29.220
that part of the race was like really, really

00:33:29.220 --> 00:33:31.640
tough. But we we nailed it. You know, it's cool

00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:34.420
to keep seeing them in the aftermath of stuff

00:33:34.420 --> 00:33:37.140
and not really maybe knowing what's going on.

00:33:37.660 --> 00:33:41.079
Is there a character that we can put in this?

00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:44.339
And well. There's always a character like this,

00:33:44.500 --> 00:33:47.519
like the liaison. Oh, yeah, there's a team manager.

00:33:48.539 --> 00:33:52.839
Not manager maybe, but liaison to the overlordish

00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.180
thing. Yeah, there's always there's always a

00:33:55.180 --> 00:33:59.220
red tape person. And well, no, that's too Hunger

00:33:59.220 --> 00:34:01.619
Games. And I was I was just thinking about but

00:34:01.619 --> 00:34:04.759
somebody like an actor with some effervescence,

00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:09.360
somebody. Calista Flock Hardy or like fairy like.

00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:15.820
OK, I don't know, ethereal. Lori Petty, OK, played

00:34:15.820 --> 00:34:19.760
Tank Girl. Great, great name call. You want her,

00:34:19.780 --> 00:34:22.260
you know, as like the liaison. She's a little

00:34:22.260 --> 00:34:24.440
like this, but a little wacky company running

00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:26.820
the show here. And you know, because like in

00:34:26.820 --> 00:34:30.159
Hunger Games, they all get their. Yeah. Assigned.

00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:33.239
Yeah, I'm here. Elizabeth Banks is hers. I think

00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:35.349
we should have that, too. I can see that. Just

00:34:35.349 --> 00:34:39.050
in this gutter way they have. I'm sold. Laura

00:34:39.050 --> 00:34:41.909
Petty is a great selection. Because she could

00:34:41.909 --> 00:34:46.010
play probably very uptight and straight or just

00:34:46.010 --> 00:34:48.630
maniacal and crazy. I think those options. Thank

00:34:48.630 --> 00:34:50.610
you for allowing. That's a deep cut. And again,

00:34:50.849 --> 00:34:52.530
she's so underrated. She's in point and break.

00:34:52.650 --> 00:34:54.510
I love her in point and break. She's great. But

00:34:54.510 --> 00:34:57.510
again, Tank Girl, everybody. That movie, aside

00:34:57.510 --> 00:35:00.710
from the weird dog people. Aside from that, it's

00:35:00.710 --> 00:35:04.980
great. You know, maybe it helps them out along

00:35:04.980 --> 00:35:07.039
the way. Give them a couple of like, hey, there's

00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.239
some good trash a little like, hey, let me drop

00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:11.800
like the the file or a couple of piece of paper

00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:13.460
with a little bit of help like she's playing

00:35:13.460 --> 00:35:17.019
insider. Turns out she's actually got money riding

00:35:17.019 --> 00:35:19.219
on this because, you know, this is stabilizing

00:35:19.219 --> 00:35:25.039
the whole world economy. And do we have an idea

00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:27.699
of the terrain and landscape? Do we want varied?

00:35:27.980 --> 00:35:30.199
Oh, yeah, all over the place. We have to go through

00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:33.219
city ruin. They have to go through. Yes, I want

00:35:33.219 --> 00:35:35.079
to see a decrepit Vegas. If we're doing this

00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:37.820
in America, there's going to be like, you know,

00:35:37.820 --> 00:35:39.300
remember Resident Evil, the one where that takes

00:35:39.300 --> 00:35:41.300
place in Vegas and like the whole city is like

00:35:41.300 --> 00:35:43.500
sanded in. I think that'd be pretty fun. It could

00:35:43.500 --> 00:35:46.599
be cooler if it's it's kind of like this is something

00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:48.599
you could film in Ireland. Oh, yeah. You can

00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:51.980
have like remnants of Belfast, a castle or something.

00:35:52.059 --> 00:35:54.840
It would be cool. It could still maybe be the

00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:57.199
U .S. You just don't know. I mean, all right.

00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:59.719
Let me know if you want an iconic thing because

00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:01.719
that would know. You're one of your favorite

00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:05.000
films, Doomsday. The car scene at the end where

00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:07.739
they're racing away from all this stuff. They

00:36:07.739 --> 00:36:10.460
filmed most of that in South Africa. No kidding.

00:36:10.619 --> 00:36:12.500
Yeah. And it's a stand -in for Scotland, but

00:36:12.500 --> 00:36:15.019
you never knew. Yeah. Looks the same. You can

00:36:15.019 --> 00:36:17.739
film it anywhere, man. Anywhere. Yeah. Depends

00:36:17.739 --> 00:36:19.380
on where the camera angles at. But the choice

00:36:19.380 --> 00:36:21.820
to do a Vegas thing is pretty... Yeah, I think

00:36:21.820 --> 00:36:24.519
there needs to be a big city at least that you

00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:26.940
drive through that's just a wrecked ruin of some

00:36:26.940 --> 00:36:30.050
sort. I think that would be fun. That's that's

00:36:30.050 --> 00:36:31.769
got to be part of the dead, but that's got to

00:36:31.769 --> 00:36:33.190
be part of the dead zone, right? Like they go

00:36:33.190 --> 00:36:35.670
through the dead zone. There's just little ruined

00:36:35.670 --> 00:36:40.289
cities. Well, our team is as prepared as they

00:36:40.289 --> 00:36:44.010
can be. Yes. Right. With what's happening. Lori

00:36:44.010 --> 00:36:46.469
Petty is there and do we is Donald Sutherland,

00:36:46.530 --> 00:36:48.449
the overlord of this place, or do we want to

00:36:48.449 --> 00:36:50.309
like, how do we want to flush out the rest of

00:36:50.309 --> 00:36:53.849
the cast and the trajectory? Because we don't

00:36:53.849 --> 00:36:56.860
have a villain. That's true. Necessarily. That

00:36:56.860 --> 00:36:59.860
is true. We don't necessarily. So I, but I think

00:36:59.860 --> 00:37:01.980
there's somebody who is putting this thing on

00:37:01.980 --> 00:37:03.880
like, and there can be characters surrounding

00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:06.739
them. So like, who's the big bad and the number

00:37:06.739 --> 00:37:10.960
two, who's, who's, who's the like, so you introduce

00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:13.099
and you could introduce all these people in the

00:37:13.099 --> 00:37:15.320
initial stages. Of course, of course. Right.

00:37:15.900 --> 00:37:18.800
So there's like somebody petty is trying to keep.

00:37:19.309 --> 00:37:22.730
you know, whoever is, is like the hard ass, like

00:37:22.730 --> 00:37:29.309
our Lee Ermey. But like, like is, is enforcing

00:37:29.309 --> 00:37:32.030
order, making sure things are cool in this little,

00:37:32.030 --> 00:37:35.090
you know, debarkation point where they're getting

00:37:35.090 --> 00:37:38.469
their junk. Okay. So if Donna Donald Sutherland

00:37:38.469 --> 00:37:42.110
is, you know, our overlord, is he the warlord

00:37:42.110 --> 00:37:45.530
of the wasteland? Warrior of the Wasteland. It's

00:37:45.530 --> 00:37:47.809
too on the nose, I think, with the other thing.

00:37:47.809 --> 00:37:50.429
No, I understand. So what's more fun coming...

00:37:50.429 --> 00:37:55.710
Well, like we mentioned... What if Billy Zane

00:37:55.710 --> 00:37:58.869
is the president of the world? Is the warrior

00:37:58.869 --> 00:38:00.650
of the wasteland. He's the warrior of the wasteland?

00:38:00.889 --> 00:38:04.429
Like the head of this thing. Okay. Yes. Evil.

00:38:04.690 --> 00:38:07.170
Evil. Yeah. All right. Does he get a monologue

00:38:07.170 --> 00:38:09.929
at the beginning? All of them. He gets on all

00:38:09.929 --> 00:38:12.329
the monologues? I think that's fun. Like, and

00:38:12.329 --> 00:38:16.590
that would be some... Like if you've ever seen

00:38:16.590 --> 00:38:22.269
the movie with Nicolas Cage in Japan, Bill Mosley

00:38:22.269 --> 00:38:26.309
plays the mayor of this town. So it's like the

00:38:26.309 --> 00:38:30.969
Western Japanese culture. OK. Prisoners of the

00:38:30.969 --> 00:38:33.650
Ghostland. It's so wild. Yeah. Yeah. We're like,

00:38:33.710 --> 00:38:36.889
he's got the bomb on it. No, it's it's. Oh, yeah,

00:38:36.929 --> 00:38:41.980
that's right. That's right. Hell comes to Frogtown.

00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:46.079
Roddy Piper did it better. Roddy Piper. Roddy

00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:50.599
Piper is our second to Billy Zane. He's the enforcer.

00:38:51.019 --> 00:38:55.380
Of 100%. A hundred percent. Does he get to be...

00:38:55.380 --> 00:38:57.880
How flamboyant do we allow him to be? Like super

00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:03.119
gay? Just flamboyant? Yeah, or both. I that's

00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:04.900
awesome. He doesn't have to be gay, just flamboyant.

00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.619
Like he needs to be bananas. But I keep it like

00:39:07.619 --> 00:39:10.599
this is an indie everybody. But no, that's fucking

00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:12.679
awesome. I don't know if this movie can be indie.

00:39:12.820 --> 00:39:14.059
Now that I keep thinking about it, like the more

00:39:14.059 --> 00:39:17.760
I think about it. But if we keep all the other

00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:20.699
big stuff like it could be a cannonball run where

00:39:20.699 --> 00:39:22.920
you're following nine teams. It could be. But

00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:26.000
it's fun to just keep focused on, you know, what

00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:28.300
they see maybe until a certain point, you know.

00:39:30.179 --> 00:39:32.960
So along the way along the way what kind of thing

00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:35.960
they need to be besieged, right? Yes ones by

00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:38.079
banditos Of course, we got to have we got to

00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:40.599
have mutants or bandits of some sort Do you like

00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:43.559
the idea that there's a mutant type of situation?

00:39:43.579 --> 00:39:46.860
I read I do I do I also like the idea of like

00:39:46.860 --> 00:39:49.480
Somehow the other racers view them as a threat

00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:51.199
and like what if they're misunderstood and they're

00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.159
really nice Oh, yeah, it turns out like hey,

00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:57.019
by the way What if it turns out these mutants

00:39:57.019 --> 00:39:58.679
are like actually really nice like you say but

00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:01.699
like they hate the because the racers keep going

00:40:01.699 --> 00:40:04.599
through their territory causing chaos every single

00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:07.260
year. These guys show up and they're like, we're

00:40:07.260 --> 00:40:08.519
about to kill them. They're like, hey, hold on.

00:40:08.619 --> 00:40:10.880
And it turns out like, oh, you guys didn't mean

00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:13.500
it. No, we got pushed off the overpass and ended

00:40:13.500 --> 00:40:15.900
up here. We did not mean to be here. Could you

00:40:15.900 --> 00:40:20.360
help us along the way? So we have the opportunity

00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.820
for prosthetics. We have the opportunity for

00:40:22.820 --> 00:40:28.699
- Of course. Ron Perlman. Yes. Oh, could be so

00:40:28.699 --> 00:40:31.900
scary. He would be so terrifying. But then when

00:40:31.900 --> 00:40:36.159
he downshifts. Yeah. Yeah. Ron Perlman is such

00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:38.539
a friggin treasure. He's so good and everything.

00:40:38.619 --> 00:40:41.519
And he's super diverse. I mean, like, but one

00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:45.860
of the OGs with, you know, prosthetics and yeah,

00:40:46.179 --> 00:40:49.619
him and Doug Jones. We reunite them. They don't

00:40:49.619 --> 00:40:52.699
get a reunited. He was, you know, on the TV movie

00:40:52.699 --> 00:40:55.179
with Linda Hamilton, Beauty and the Beast. Yeah.

00:40:55.179 --> 00:40:58.320
Quest for Fire. way back in the day, dude's done

00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:02.300
it. Blade two, obviously. And there's really

00:41:02.300 --> 00:41:06.800
good, big physical presence chemistry in case

00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:11.260
he and Roddy Piper have to wrestle. Oh, please.

00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:15.059
I mean, they come back and they come back and

00:41:15.059 --> 00:41:17.820
besiege the thing, right? Yeah, of course. Yeah.

00:41:18.900 --> 00:41:21.460
Then we can have the show down. Yeah. Because

00:41:21.460 --> 00:41:25.099
I was going to ask you, do you Want this to be

00:41:25.099 --> 00:41:27.440
a thing where like it's a foregone conclusion.

00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:31.019
Nobody wins and they running man style figure

00:41:31.019 --> 00:41:35.380
it out and then yeah recruit Yeah, these different

00:41:35.380 --> 00:41:37.539
all these different groups along the way. Yeah.

00:41:37.619 --> 00:41:41.599
Yes, but before so I like the idea that the mutants

00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:46.960
led by Ron Perot are you know in they're destroying

00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:50.039
these things right because They have no choice.

00:41:50.139 --> 00:41:52.880
They they're destroying their land. They're or

00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:56.679
is it a threat that is just heard of? You know

00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:59.579
what I mean? So that's what's always kind of

00:41:59.579 --> 00:42:01.800
interesting where there's this threat. You don't

00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:04.719
know if it's credible. Then you take a shot and

00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:08.599
they're like, oh, no, we're cool. I don't I don't

00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:12.840
know. I don't know. Right. Because other elements

00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:14.719
of the road trip would be fun. What do you think?

00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.039
Yeah, I think. Can we try and figure out some

00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:21.730
other elements? Yeah, I'm interested in. Maybe

00:42:21.730 --> 00:42:24.210
a siren. Oh, yeah. I was thinking the same thing.

00:42:24.389 --> 00:42:25.809
Is there an element of that? I was thinking the

00:42:25.809 --> 00:42:27.949
same thing. There's got to be like a brothel

00:42:27.949 --> 00:42:30.690
or some sort, some like Vegas style, like Sintrap,

00:42:30.809 --> 00:42:33.289
Honey Trap type thing that draws them in, of

00:42:33.289 --> 00:42:35.710
course. And again, thinking about road movies,

00:42:35.869 --> 00:42:39.050
Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? Oh, classic. Which

00:42:39.050 --> 00:42:41.230
is clearly, it's tied to a piece of literature,

00:42:41.230 --> 00:42:44.769
but the way they handle the sirens is really

00:42:44.769 --> 00:42:48.250
cool. It is quite cool. And so I don't know a

00:42:48.250 --> 00:42:51.510
lot about the literature. Well, you know, there's

00:42:51.510 --> 00:42:54.469
a couple of brothels and in popular sci -fi movies

00:42:54.469 --> 00:42:58.769
and who run bottom down Pluto Nash, maybe I don't

00:42:58.769 --> 00:43:02.190
know but I don't know who run bottle town I could

00:43:02.190 --> 00:43:03.929
see like that being the name of this town that

00:43:03.929 --> 00:43:06.070
draws them in it's called barter town. Yeah,

00:43:06.070 --> 00:43:09.469
that's nice They're in need of some some fuel

00:43:09.469 --> 00:43:11.650
or something Tina Turner is the man of course

00:43:11.650 --> 00:43:15.670
of course Are you serious? I'm a hundred percent.

00:43:15.670 --> 00:43:19.019
Yeah heart attack series Tina Turner back for

00:43:19.019 --> 00:43:23.119
bar is mistress in barter town. Yep. And it could

00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:25.380
be an inside joke to once there was a movie.

00:43:25.380 --> 00:43:27.260
Yeah. What am I still here? Cloning? One time

00:43:27.260 --> 00:43:32.360
there was a movie. Yeah. Now what is this siren

00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:36.000
song? Is it intercourse? Is it something else?

00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.760
You know, cause I, I mentioned siren figuratively.

00:43:39.619 --> 00:43:42.059
They are offering freedom. What if she's offering

00:43:42.059 --> 00:43:43.980
them like, Hey, I can get you guys out of the

00:43:43.980 --> 00:43:46.369
race, but like they've Like, they're at the point

00:43:46.369 --> 00:43:47.929
now where they realize that, like, they have

00:43:47.929 --> 00:43:50.110
a chance to do something bigger, right? Yeah.

00:43:50.389 --> 00:43:52.409
Oh, so that's, like, a tipping point. Yeah, I

00:43:52.409 --> 00:43:54.650
think that's where she's at. She's like, hey,

00:43:54.650 --> 00:43:56.329
I can get you guys out of the race. Like, where

00:43:56.329 --> 00:43:58.449
we are right now, like, if you guys want to leave,

00:43:58.570 --> 00:44:01.809
I can get you guys out. OK. So you're not looking

00:44:01.809 --> 00:44:04.369
into any maybe fantastical elements of this?

00:44:04.730 --> 00:44:07.590
No, I think the idea of the siren sound is always

00:44:07.590 --> 00:44:09.329
like, I'm going to tempt you with a thing you

00:44:09.329 --> 00:44:11.429
want most. And one of these two dudes want the

00:44:11.429 --> 00:44:15.659
most to get out of this race, right? So let me

00:44:15.659 --> 00:44:17.639
offer you the thing that you want, or like, I

00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:19.420
want to leave the race so I can go see my family,

00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.179
or whatever it is their motivating factors are.

00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:25.000
So we didn't get there. Yeah. Why do we care

00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:28.980
about these gentlemen? Yeah. I think, well, they've

00:44:28.980 --> 00:44:31.139
both been conscripted, of course. Yeah. I think

00:44:31.139 --> 00:44:33.260
that's the idea of, like, their average joes.

00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:35.239
These are just folks. I think the idea of Edward

00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:37.679
Norton being, although, like, Tom Hanks and,

00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:39.639
like, Saving Private Ryan, like, he's just a

00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:41.699
teacher. Turns out you wound up in the wrong

00:44:41.699 --> 00:44:43.599
place at the wrong time kind of situation from

00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:46.500
a writing standpoint and acting standpoint, you

00:44:46.500 --> 00:44:50.300
know, in that gets know you seen in the previous

00:44:50.300 --> 00:44:52.559
place, you can create some empathy for their

00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:56.599
stories without. Oh, yeah. What's what? OK, so

00:44:56.599 --> 00:45:00.500
we're rooting for them. They're underdogs. They're

00:45:00.500 --> 00:45:04.099
generally kind. They do their best. Yeah, they

00:45:04.099 --> 00:45:08.449
keep skating by. Are there any other? I like

00:45:08.449 --> 00:45:12.489
the idea of them really having to face some confrontation,

00:45:12.710 --> 00:45:14.829
though. Yeah, I think the other racers are really

00:45:14.829 --> 00:45:17.469
seeing them as a threat. Well, the other races

00:45:17.469 --> 00:45:21.429
are ostensibly maybe on similar parallel journeys,

00:45:21.469 --> 00:45:25.590
but on different paths. So you're hearing what's

00:45:25.590 --> 00:45:27.570
going on with them. And it could be that's what's

00:45:27.570 --> 00:45:29.289
kind of cool and manipulative. You can be like,

00:45:29.289 --> 00:45:31.670
oh, fuck, that's happening. So you just assume.

00:45:32.630 --> 00:45:36.050
But like they should have to fight. Yeah, there's

00:45:36.050 --> 00:45:38.829
got to be a car battle. Is that what you're suggesting?

00:45:39.289 --> 00:45:41.710
Well, you know, like other marauders that really

00:45:41.710 --> 00:45:43.190
want to take their shit. Yeah, yeah, there's

00:45:43.190 --> 00:45:44.969
some people that like they definitely get into

00:45:44.969 --> 00:45:49.289
a... What if they're kids? And it's like really...

00:45:49.289 --> 00:45:51.909
The marauders are kids? Well, like teens or something,

00:45:52.269 --> 00:45:54.090
you know what I mean? And it's serious enough

00:45:54.090 --> 00:45:57.210
to be like 18... These are all parentless kids?

00:45:57.230 --> 00:45:59.619
Yeah, children of the corn thing. And that's

00:45:59.619 --> 00:46:01.639
what's really hard. They're running around in

00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:04.400
old racers cars. Well, it's interesting that

00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:06.599
they're pushed like their morality is pushed

00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:09.579
a little bit. That would be fun. That would be

00:46:09.579 --> 00:46:11.860
really interesting. Could we have a young Leonardo

00:46:11.860 --> 00:46:15.980
DiCaprio heading those Feral Teens? As the Feral

00:46:15.980 --> 00:46:20.639
Teen lead? As the, yes. That would be very interesting.

00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:25.719
But as Bill the Butcher? He's playing Bill the

00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:28.539
Butcher. How old's DiCaprio in your mind? I'm

00:46:28.539 --> 00:46:30.559
imagining Romeo and Juliet age, but playing.

00:46:31.179 --> 00:46:36.559
Well, maybe like a little past that, you know,

00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:39.599
catch me if you can. Is he in prosthetics? He's

00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:42.079
a marauder. Yeah, I think there's like a lord

00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:48.380
of the flies. Yeah, I mean, look at how just

00:46:48.380 --> 00:46:52.099
nuts he can be. Yeah, unhinged. Imagine if somebody

00:46:52.099 --> 00:46:55.239
knew what he was capable of back then and was

00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:59.030
like, here, play this. You want to see an unhinged

00:46:59.030 --> 00:47:02.269
team DiCaprio. I'm down. I'm down. As maybe 20,

00:47:02.409 --> 00:47:04.849
whatever that the era is. But like he's because

00:47:04.849 --> 00:47:08.070
he it's got a look like he's got a really kind

00:47:08.070 --> 00:47:11.889
of unique in like, you know, the eyes when he

00:47:11.889 --> 00:47:14.389
really goes, you know, he's got the Mel Gibson.

00:47:14.750 --> 00:47:18.690
He's got the crazy. You know, so young Leo is

00:47:18.690 --> 00:47:21.030
the head of this thing and they get besought.

00:47:21.230 --> 00:47:23.670
Yeah. And they have to like maybe they do get

00:47:23.670 --> 00:47:26.010
caught. Yeah. Is there something like they have

00:47:26.010 --> 00:47:29.309
that he wants or is it just like it's just banality?

00:47:29.690 --> 00:47:31.789
It's nice that they don't have to do maybe real

00:47:31.789 --> 00:47:34.210
violence on them. But they do have to do a little

00:47:34.210 --> 00:47:36.469
bit. They get their tires blown out. Yeah. But

00:47:36.469 --> 00:47:39.429
they can use their intellect to give them something.

00:47:39.630 --> 00:47:42.809
OK. And then they get roped back in on the way

00:47:42.809 --> 00:47:45.510
back to storm the Capitol. I got you. I got you.

00:47:45.670 --> 00:47:47.869
They they woo them with something along the way.

00:47:47.909 --> 00:47:50.329
And then, you know, DiCaprio gets, you know,

00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:53.860
Tina Turner's like, yeah, turns out like because

00:47:53.860 --> 00:47:55.440
they've been so cut off, they give them like

00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:58.119
their CB radio or something like that. Like something

00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:00.559
simple, something super simple. Like these kids

00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:02.480
are like, we've been disconnected from the world

00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:04.380
and he's like here. They have to be scary. They

00:48:04.380 --> 00:48:06.960
have to be really fucking medicine. Terrifying.

00:48:07.260 --> 00:48:10.019
Yes. Is there another young person that could

00:48:10.019 --> 00:48:13.880
be thrown in there? Like, what if? Young Natalie

00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:16.760
poor man. Yeah, I was just gonna say somebody

00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:19.119
like that. Would you stop stealing my brain cell?

00:48:19.179 --> 00:48:22.039
Oh, yeah. Yeah again fucking unhinged unhinged

00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:25.159
Just why V for vendetta shaved head the Caprio's

00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:27.559
character looks sane. I love it. Yeah. Yeah.

00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:31.480
Yeah, I love it. Oh My gosh, you could do it.

00:48:31.500 --> 00:48:38.559
Yes. Yes Well speaking of her I think we have

00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:40.360
a lot of people. Yeah, I think we have quite

00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:42.889
a cast going right now. Oh, that's awesome All

00:48:42.889 --> 00:48:47.210
right. So what they what they are along the way,

00:48:48.250 --> 00:48:53.650
they are only be sought like hardcore once. Yeah.

00:48:53.909 --> 00:48:57.829
Then they have the sirens. OK. So are we thinking

00:48:57.829 --> 00:49:00.010
do we start with the mutants or is the mutants

00:49:00.010 --> 00:49:02.610
at the very end? I like the mutants kind of in

00:49:02.610 --> 00:49:05.050
between maybe. OK. So we start with the teens.

00:49:05.650 --> 00:49:08.070
Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, I think that would be

00:49:08.070 --> 00:49:11.449
cool. OK. And then maybe another. threatening

00:49:11.449 --> 00:49:14.650
thing. Something that they can't reason with

00:49:14.650 --> 00:49:16.570
that they have to escape from, I think, is the

00:49:16.570 --> 00:49:19.130
idea. Because you can't win everybody over, unfortunately.

00:49:19.750 --> 00:49:22.150
I think this one needs to be perhaps maybe not

00:49:22.150 --> 00:49:24.969
supernatural. Oh, what a hitchhiker. A hitchhiker?

00:49:25.110 --> 00:49:27.530
Oh, they meet somebody along the way. Who do

00:49:27.530 --> 00:49:30.730
they meet? It's got to be a hot person, I'm sorry.

00:49:30.829 --> 00:49:32.650
We've got to meet somebody just like, we're in

00:49:32.650 --> 00:49:34.130
the middle of the wasteland and we meet like

00:49:34.130 --> 00:49:37.050
some much as beautiful. Alice Eve. Alice Eve.

00:49:38.739 --> 00:49:40.980
Well, she was in Star Trek Into Darkness. She

00:49:40.980 --> 00:49:43.980
played the RoboCop's daughter. Oh, OK. She's

00:49:43.980 --> 00:49:47.179
really, like, cool, very pretty. I could do crazy,

00:49:47.300 --> 00:49:49.800
probably. Very visually striking. I don't know.

00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:51.059
That's the first person I've had in my head.

00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.320
OK. It's somebody like that, because I could

00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:56.239
just see somebody. Natasha Henstridge. Natasha

00:49:56.239 --> 00:50:01.949
Henstridge. Species. Oh. OK. OK. I guess I've

00:50:01.949 --> 00:50:05.570
seen. I'm just exposing my inner self right now.

00:50:05.849 --> 00:50:08.869
Hey, let me pull out every beautiful woman I've

00:50:08.869 --> 00:50:11.670
ever heard of. Denise Richards. How about, you

00:50:11.670 --> 00:50:14.809
know, let me pull. Let me peel these layers like

00:50:14.809 --> 00:50:20.699
onions. Forgive me. But that could be a fun thing

00:50:20.699 --> 00:50:22.739
because like you don't know, like a serial killer

00:50:22.739 --> 00:50:25.320
or some shit. Yeah, yeah, like this person. And

00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:27.460
you're like, you idiots. And that's like one

00:50:27.460 --> 00:50:29.579
of the big rules. A hundred percent. Don't do

00:50:29.579 --> 00:50:32.539
it. A hundred percent. Yes. And this person could

00:50:32.539 --> 00:50:34.480
like hijack him and make him go the wrong way.

00:50:34.500 --> 00:50:37.320
This person steals their car. And well, no, like

00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:40.260
maybe. But I have to kill this person. Yeah.

00:50:40.260 --> 00:50:43.980
I think I think that this person is trying to

00:50:43.980 --> 00:50:46.079
kill them, like in their camp, like at that night,

00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:47.760
like they're trying to go to sleep and like.

00:50:47.789 --> 00:50:52.190
The one part, Timothy's on, is it Tim's on? Steve's

00:50:52.190 --> 00:50:53.989
on. I don't know why I keep wanting to say Timothy's

00:50:53.989 --> 00:50:56.989
on. Steve's on. He wakes up to see that Edward

00:50:56.989 --> 00:51:00.630
Norton's being choked out and has to do what

00:51:00.630 --> 00:51:02.750
has to be done. Yeah, I think so. I'm with you.

00:51:02.869 --> 00:51:05.389
I think that he gets to play the sympathetic

00:51:05.389 --> 00:51:08.210
dad character. Can we hone in on that a little

00:51:08.210 --> 00:51:15.110
bit? So temperament for them. So we want them

00:51:15.110 --> 00:51:17.230
likeable. Yeah, I think they need to be likable.

00:51:17.489 --> 00:51:20.409
Is Edward Norton downright a little bit meek?

00:51:20.869 --> 00:51:24.110
Yeah, I wonder if he, you know, plays really

00:51:24.110 --> 00:51:26.050
intellectual. I think he's definitely a very

00:51:26.050 --> 00:51:27.489
much turn the other cheek kind of situation.

00:51:27.489 --> 00:51:30.329
And Steve Zahn is more the lovable, like, dad

00:51:30.329 --> 00:51:33.590
type, but you know, has fist fought a few people

00:51:33.590 --> 00:51:35.150
there and there. He's been at a bar fight or

00:51:35.150 --> 00:51:39.070
two, yeah. Yeah. But yeah, they both do that

00:51:39.070 --> 00:51:40.909
really, really well. They would both do that

00:51:40.909 --> 00:51:45.219
real well. And a little bit of humor? For sure.

00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:47.739
There's better be some humor in this. We don't

00:51:47.739 --> 00:51:50.380
make some jokes. What if it's full on just like

00:51:50.380 --> 00:51:53.820
dry humor from... Oh, just witty? He makes a

00:51:53.820 --> 00:51:57.860
joke and just like Steve Zahn just never reacts.

00:51:59.739 --> 00:51:59.880
He respects Steve Zahn to do his thing. Yes,

00:52:00.139 --> 00:52:01.559
a hundred percent. But they have to be good jokes.

00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:04.780
Yeah, we definitely need that. Yeah, he keeps

00:52:04.780 --> 00:52:06.440
trying to hit him with like just one line. He's

00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:07.920
like, have you heard this one before? Yeah. Have

00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:09.320
you heard this one before? Have you heard this

00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:11.179
one? That's really funny to me. Steve Zahn is

00:52:11.179 --> 00:52:13.320
just like, he's just constantly looking out the

00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:19.480
window, just like, fuck. Yeah. I'm trying to

00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:22.820
think of a director right now. Oh, I'm trying

00:52:22.820 --> 00:52:24.500
to think like we haven't given a director yet.

00:52:25.219 --> 00:52:29.019
So I was trying to think of who the suggestions,

00:52:29.340 --> 00:52:34.699
the idea of it being small is something that

00:52:34.699 --> 00:52:41.710
I don't think limits us because, you know, Gosh

00:52:41.710 --> 00:52:44.869
I have a suggestion. Yeah, I this is why I was

00:52:44.869 --> 00:52:46.329
looking up if you were wondering. Oh, yeah Yeah,

00:52:46.329 --> 00:52:47.769
when we look at over here, I'm doing I would

00:52:47.769 --> 00:52:50.869
I would like to see Brad Bird do this What did

00:52:50.869 --> 00:52:53.670
he do? He did the Iron Giant the Incredibles

00:52:53.670 --> 00:52:58.349
he did more recently. He did I believe Let's

00:52:58.349 --> 00:53:01.409
see mission impossible ghost protocol the Incredibles

00:53:01.409 --> 00:53:06.619
2 Yeah, dudes done a lot Brad Bird Oh, Brad Bird,

00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:09.760
yeah. He did Ratatouille. Apologies, I forgot

00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:15.119
he did Ratatouille. So like live action -y. Yes.

00:53:16.659 --> 00:53:19.179
I think that's great. I think he's... He'd get

00:53:19.179 --> 00:53:22.199
it. He'd get it. He understands it. He understands

00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:24.619
what we're looking for. We're looking for a little

00:53:24.619 --> 00:53:28.960
zany, a little wild, not quite full Mad Max,

00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:32.039
but like Mad Max adjacent, right? Right. Road

00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:35.469
trip movie. Is it all family fun or are we still

00:53:35.469 --> 00:53:37.309
talking like there's still some blood and guts?

00:53:37.469 --> 00:53:39.230
Like, are we talking like PG -13 or are we talking

00:53:39.230 --> 00:53:42.010
R? Because I would like to see an R. Just feels

00:53:42.010 --> 00:53:46.550
that way. I'm with you on that. I like the idea

00:53:46.550 --> 00:53:50.369
that the the teenage stuff is intense. Yeah,

00:53:50.469 --> 00:53:53.030
I think it's like you say, we got to have some

00:53:53.030 --> 00:53:56.489
moral quandaries. It could be scaled back. Yeah,

00:53:56.570 --> 00:53:59.230
I don't think we have to be grotesque about it,

00:53:59.230 --> 00:54:01.690
but I think it should still be an R rated movie.

00:54:01.869 --> 00:54:07.429
Could Paul W .S. Anderson write it? Yes. Yes,

00:54:07.530 --> 00:54:10.429
he could direct it to like, you know, I know

00:54:10.429 --> 00:54:13.190
we're but I'm like a fan of Resident Evil and

00:54:13.190 --> 00:54:16.050
I don't know if death race he did. It would be

00:54:16.050 --> 00:54:19.250
fun. Fucking event horizon. He did do that. Let's

00:54:19.250 --> 00:54:21.929
be real. Is he going serious or is he going a

00:54:21.929 --> 00:54:25.929
little too campy? I think honestly. I think this

00:54:25.929 --> 00:54:28.400
could be a drama. Oh, OK. So he's going pretty

00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:30.239
serious on this. I think if he goes a little

00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:33.340
more serious and like we don't we try and avoid

00:54:33.340 --> 00:54:35.239
the camp, I think it'd be pretty fun. Yeah. Not

00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:36.719
to say camp doesn't have its place. I just don't

00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:38.420
think that that's the tone we want to set for

00:54:38.420 --> 00:54:43.059
this. Yeah. Right. Exactly. OK. The dead attempt

00:54:43.059 --> 00:54:46.719
directed by Bat and Brad Bird. Yeah, that's I

00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:50.440
bet. Again, it would feel big without being big.

00:54:50.460 --> 00:54:54.460
Yeah. He'd kill it. The story would have to be

00:54:54.460 --> 00:54:57.260
good. The characters are good. I mean, even just

00:54:57.260 --> 00:54:58.739
doing the animated stuff. You think of all the

00:54:58.739 --> 00:55:00.760
stuff that he's done and you're like, all of

00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:02.699
those have very heartfelt characters. So I think

00:55:02.699 --> 00:55:04.460
that he would definitely make sure that that's

00:55:04.460 --> 00:55:08.460
coming through in this movie. Exactly. The. So

00:55:08.460 --> 00:55:11.739
I like the idea that they're finally turned around

00:55:11.739 --> 00:55:15.420
and and in the right way now and are recruiting

00:55:15.420 --> 00:55:17.940
everybody on the way back. Are they forgotten

00:55:17.940 --> 00:55:20.460
about like or is there like they're getting close

00:55:20.460 --> 00:55:23.119
to like the dead? Yeah, assume their deaths are

00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:25.719
faked. when they give out their CB radio, it

00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:27.400
turns out like that was how they were tracking

00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:28.920
them. So they don't actually know that these

00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:31.860
guys are coming back or have no idea what's happening.

00:55:31.860 --> 00:55:33.940
Exactly. And they just show up at like the last

00:55:33.940 --> 00:55:36.780
thing. Yeah. Like the last checkpoint for the

00:55:36.780 --> 00:55:39.360
award ceremony or something like that. And the

00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:41.780
idea that, you know, they're they're bringing

00:55:41.780 --> 00:55:44.719
a gang with them. Yes. No, no, they're not bringing

00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:47.119
a gang with them. The gang is already there.

00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:49.480
They show up and like the gang's already there.

00:55:49.699 --> 00:55:51.579
Beat them to it. That'd be pretty funny. They

00:55:51.579 --> 00:55:53.079
took the high -speed rail, you know, the gang

00:55:53.079 --> 00:55:55.380
was already there. Oh, okay, okay. I get this.

00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:58.199
I get this. Now, we have a couple of showdowns

00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:00.659
that can happen. Ooh, like Wild West showdowns

00:56:00.659 --> 00:56:04.260
or just like other team showdowns? I like that.

00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:08.059
Oh, well, see, like Tina Turner could have to

00:56:08.059 --> 00:56:12.260
fight Lori Petty. Ooh. We get a showdown in the

00:56:12.260 --> 00:56:14.920
brothel and then barter down. No, like this is

00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:17.179
at the Capitol like they're taking things over,

00:56:17.179 --> 00:56:18.900
right? This is our finale. I thought Laura Petty

00:56:18.900 --> 00:56:21.059
was going to. Was she going to have a turn of

00:56:21.059 --> 00:56:22.639
heart at the end or? I don't know. I don't know.

00:56:23.300 --> 00:56:26.300
She works for the for the crew. OK, maybe there

00:56:26.300 --> 00:56:32.369
is a is our turn or Rodriguez. Ronda Rousey situation

00:56:32.369 --> 00:56:36.190
Okay, but they fight they don't hate each other

00:56:36.190 --> 00:56:38.230
But in the situation they had to fight and they

00:56:38.230 --> 00:56:40.789
then they okay become friends and the sequel

00:56:40.789 --> 00:56:44.570
you got Perlman and Roddy Piper Yes, yes, go

00:56:44.570 --> 00:56:47.289
on it with some and Roddy Piper's gonna be just

00:56:47.289 --> 00:56:51.960
going in this fight is eight minutes longer than

00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:54.699
the fight and they live. Is there a, like, Roadhouse

00:56:54.699 --> 00:56:57.039
style, like, so he pulls somebody's throat out?

00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:59.579
Is that how the fight ends? I don't know. That

00:56:59.579 --> 00:57:01.860
could be a surprise amount of violence. And people

00:57:01.860 --> 00:57:05.460
are like, hard pass, great until the end. Hold

00:57:05.460 --> 00:57:07.900
on, hold on. This is where we pass? The rainbow

00:57:07.900 --> 00:57:10.119
apocalypse, and this is where we pass? Wait a

00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:12.500
second. Who's our hitchhiker? Did we ever settle

00:57:12.500 --> 00:57:17.239
on a hitchhiker? You said Denise Richards. Yeah,

00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:21.659
I think. Forgive me. I just looked at the note.

00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:23.739
Did we figure out who the hiker? I don't think

00:57:23.739 --> 00:57:25.780
we did. We didn't. We didn't give anybody. Because

00:57:25.780 --> 00:57:28.699
we are sorry. I just sidetracked us massively.

00:57:28.699 --> 00:57:32.980
No, it's OK with the character types. Steve's

00:57:32.980 --> 00:57:36.019
on. We're going right back. Let's go back. Time

00:57:36.019 --> 00:57:40.880
Steve's on. Is murdering said hiker. Oh, yeah

00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:43.480
who you said and I'm with you needs to be somebody

00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:46.019
of certain attraction Yeah, and it didn't need

00:57:46.019 --> 00:57:48.320
to be a lady. No, it could be Killian Murphy

00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:51.079
Oh, it could be it could be kill him her V. Could

00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:54.039
you imagine that'd be great those eyes that be

00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:57.420
wild That would that be so fun to do just out

00:57:57.420 --> 00:58:00.250
of nowhere like Turns out I mean what a psychopath

00:58:00.250 --> 00:58:02.730
what it's like really turn that on because he's

00:58:02.730 --> 00:58:04.889
played a bad guy in a few things and he's yeah

00:58:04.889 --> 00:58:08.670
really really good at it, but yeah, I I like

00:58:08.670 --> 00:58:10.769
the idea of somebody who's just like you you

00:58:10.769 --> 00:58:13.190
wouldn't this is what makes it was a Jason Bateman

00:58:13.190 --> 00:58:16.099
and like so terrifying or American Psycho like

00:58:16.099 --> 00:58:18.079
this is what makes American Psycho, Christian

00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:20.159
Bale's character like he's beautiful, but also

00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:22.380
he's a psycho. But somebody like Jason Bateman

00:58:22.380 --> 00:58:25.699
again with that normal. Just an everyday. OK,

00:58:25.900 --> 00:58:30.219
so Killian Murphy is our psycho. So it turns

00:58:30.219 --> 00:58:32.659
out I like the idea of him being like a previous

00:58:32.659 --> 00:58:34.800
racer who's just been like wandering the wasteland.

00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:37.099
That's really that's the joke. He's trying to

00:58:37.099 --> 00:58:39.340
save them from like the inevitability of like

00:58:39.340 --> 00:58:42.260
their their doom by just killing them. Yeah.

00:58:42.539 --> 00:58:44.940
It's the dead attempt. It's the dead attempt.

00:58:44.940 --> 00:58:47.139
You're like, duh. Don't you guys get it? Dead

00:58:47.139 --> 00:58:52.460
attempt. You guys just don't get it. Yes. Is

00:58:52.460 --> 00:58:55.179
he like some stoner out there, bro? This is the

00:58:55.179 --> 00:58:59.219
problem. I love this. Oh, wait, slightly charming

00:58:59.219 --> 00:59:04.880
and menacing. Yes. Yes, totally. And full Irish

00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:07.980
accent. Oh, just full like subtitle. Like we

00:59:07.980 --> 00:59:10.699
bring in subtitles for him. So just immediately.

00:59:11.340 --> 00:59:14.440
It's so heavy. And they're like tripping over

00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:18.059
them. As funny as it would be. It doesn't mean

00:59:18.059 --> 00:59:21.119
to be fun to just like to take this idea as like

00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:23.079
if we were doing just a really fun fourth wall

00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:24.699
break, it'd be really funny if the subtitles

00:59:24.699 --> 00:59:27.639
were like legit. And one of the characters actually

00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:29.780
legit tripped over them, like in scene, breaking

00:59:29.780 --> 00:59:31.500
the fourth wall. That's happened a few times.

00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:36.340
So funny to do in movies and or they're recognized,

00:59:36.340 --> 00:59:39.840
you know, like the subtitles. Yeah. I don't think

00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:43.239
this the tone is a bit absurd, as fun as it is.

00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:45.380
But I do like the idea of him being a little

00:59:45.380 --> 00:59:50.739
fun with Killian Murphy and that. There's decidedly

00:59:50.739 --> 00:59:55.219
no infected or zombies in this. Oh yeah, of course.

00:59:55.219 --> 00:59:56.760
And he's like, at least it's not fucking zombies.

00:59:56.900 --> 00:59:59.159
Yeah, yeah. And then we throw the number 28.

00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:01.980
Oh, their car is number 28. Yes, yeah. And he's

01:00:01.980 --> 01:00:05.579
like, fucking A. Does he get PTSD or something?

01:00:05.780 --> 01:00:11.179
Just for fun. That's fun for a few people. Like

01:00:11.179 --> 01:00:13.019
he gets into their car and he's like, we're going

01:00:13.019 --> 01:00:16.739
to have to change that number. Yes, yes, I love

01:00:16.739 --> 01:00:20.900
it. It's just a stupid throwaway joke. I like

01:00:20.900 --> 01:00:24.010
the idea. I mean, it's heartbreaking, though,

01:00:24.110 --> 01:00:26.309
if he kidnaps them in earnest and makes them

01:00:26.309 --> 01:00:29.389
go out of the way. Yeah. And what's cool about

01:00:29.389 --> 01:00:33.329
that is you can make that heartbreak in the moment,

01:00:34.210 --> 01:00:37.530
but we find out that it doesn't matter. You know

01:00:37.530 --> 01:00:40.409
what I mean? Yeah. So when they get themselves

01:00:40.409 --> 01:00:45.269
rid of a beautiful, non -zombified Killian Murphy,

01:00:46.210 --> 01:00:48.400
they're on their way back. You know, and they

01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:50.199
realized, well, they were supposed to be, you

01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:52.880
know, toasted. And yeah, the plan was that they

01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:56.059
were all going to die anyway. It was right from

01:00:56.059 --> 01:00:58.320
the start. It was rigged from the start. Yeah.

01:00:58.739 --> 01:01:01.159
Watercoat was going to win this year. OK, they

01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:04.420
paid beaucoup bucks. Now, what's interesting

01:01:04.420 --> 01:01:07.860
is we can make no mention further of the other

01:01:07.860 --> 01:01:11.070
teams and presupposing they. die on this thing.

01:01:11.130 --> 01:01:13.389
No, no, I don't think we can. Are we building

01:01:13.389 --> 01:01:15.550
an expanded universe where this race happens

01:01:15.550 --> 01:01:17.750
infinitely and we just we go through like, well,

01:01:17.909 --> 01:01:19.750
we speed racer and we have a bunch of other teams.

01:01:20.090 --> 01:01:22.690
The idea we tried to make this small, I think

01:01:22.690 --> 01:01:27.409
the small road movie apocalypse movie. We still

01:01:27.409 --> 01:01:30.190
find out about them through whatever this way

01:01:30.190 --> 01:01:34.289
of technology is. I love it. It sounds fun. And.

01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:36.699
You know, they are obviously on the hero's journey

01:01:36.699 --> 01:01:38.960
and take a different path. And the path that

01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:42.000
they take is the one that keeps them safe. It's

01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:44.480
the most dangerous road they could possibly be

01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:46.440
taking, of course. The dead attempt. The road

01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:48.420
is literally called the dead attempt. It's like

01:01:48.420 --> 01:01:51.039
it's got a skull with axes for eyes and whatnot.

01:01:51.219 --> 01:01:53.360
It's like nobody takes this road since the last

01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:55.219
person. Who was Killian Murphy? It's called the

01:01:55.219 --> 01:01:56.840
fucking dead attempt. Killian Murphy was the

01:01:56.840 --> 01:01:59.739
last one to attempt the road. Of course. Of course

01:01:59.739 --> 01:02:04.570
he was. Of course he was. This is a fun cast

01:02:04.570 --> 01:02:09.110
that I'm just now I'm just looking. Yeah. At

01:02:09.110 --> 01:02:12.429
a certain period of time, this movie could happen.

01:02:12.429 --> 01:02:15.389
Yeah, it happened. I think it's the week week

01:02:15.389 --> 01:02:17.750
week. I mean, today, I think everybody's still

01:02:17.750 --> 01:02:20.170
with us. I think Lori Petty has actually passed,

01:02:20.170 --> 01:02:22.570
unfortunately. Don't don't break my heart like

01:02:22.570 --> 01:02:24.909
that. How dare you? What does this movie sound

01:02:24.909 --> 01:02:29.280
like? Oh. I mean, you don't want Hans Zimmer

01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:34.400
going every five minutes. Or do you want... I

01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:36.659
think there's a score to this, right? There's

01:02:36.659 --> 01:02:38.300
definitely a score. I think this has to have

01:02:38.300 --> 01:02:43.000
a score. I think it's more orchestral. And I

01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:46.860
think music for... I'm thinking about all the

01:02:46.860 --> 01:02:50.449
road movies and they're typically... A lot of

01:02:50.449 --> 01:02:52.570
them are songs, you know, because people are

01:02:52.570 --> 01:02:55.909
listening to... No, no, I think not. I think

01:02:55.909 --> 01:02:58.630
a score is awesome. It would be interesting to

01:02:58.630 --> 01:03:00.889
do a bunch of needle drops of, like, them keep,

01:03:00.889 --> 01:03:03.090
like, every time they stop or something or another,

01:03:03.170 --> 01:03:05.269
like, you know, at some random just out there,

01:03:05.269 --> 01:03:07.230
like, decrepit building where, like... There

01:03:07.230 --> 01:03:09.349
could be songs in there, but, like, I think there

01:03:09.349 --> 01:03:12.170
should be a score. I like the idea of one of,

01:03:12.170 --> 01:03:14.550
at some point, like, they stop, use the bathroom,

01:03:14.630 --> 01:03:16.309
and, like, one of them finds a cassette tape,

01:03:16.329 --> 01:03:20.170
and it's, like... Oh, interesting. It's The Gambler

01:03:20.170 --> 01:03:22.610
by Kenny Rogers. And they're like, what's this?

01:03:22.889 --> 01:03:24.489
And they happen to have a cassette. The Gambler.

01:03:24.510 --> 01:03:29.110
Yeah. What's that about? Share. Why that? Yeah,

01:03:29.110 --> 01:03:31.670
yeah, yeah. I don't know. It seems like it would

01:03:31.670 --> 01:03:34.590
fit the motif of the film. And that everything's

01:03:34.590 --> 01:03:36.969
being propped up by this betting sports culture.

01:03:36.969 --> 01:03:39.989
Oh, like, I don't know if they're these guys

01:03:39.989 --> 01:03:42.269
are being they were conscripted into this race.

01:03:42.349 --> 01:03:45.289
They're kind of gambling with their lives unwillingly.

01:03:45.309 --> 01:03:48.050
I feel like if they would definitely fit the

01:03:48.050 --> 01:03:50.550
themes. You like that song. It's a catchy tune.

01:03:50.550 --> 01:03:52.769
It's a great tune. Also, Kenny Rogers is a national

01:03:52.769 --> 01:03:56.030
treasure. No one to hold them. He's still with

01:03:56.030 --> 01:03:59.170
us. Is that a cameo? Oh, we live in the world

01:03:59.170 --> 01:04:02.489
of our of our fantasy land here in this in this

01:04:02.489 --> 01:04:05.570
dome domicile. Yeah. So, yes, even if he's passed,

01:04:05.590 --> 01:04:07.869
he's still with us and he can make a cameo sitting

01:04:07.869 --> 01:04:11.389
all dusty on a porch. Yes, he's definitely he's

01:04:11.389 --> 01:04:13.530
definitely doing and hold them. No one to fold

01:04:13.530 --> 01:04:17.090
them. Yes, for sure. Here's this guy over here.

01:04:17.150 --> 01:04:19.590
Here's my next question for you. Yeah, we did

01:04:19.590 --> 01:04:22.309
this to ourselves again What we got I don't know

01:04:22.309 --> 01:04:24.530
how much time all the tagline. Yeah. Yeah, we're

01:04:24.530 --> 01:04:26.210
not worried We're gonna this tagline is gonna

01:04:26.210 --> 01:04:31.389
be so easy. This is music Oh music, but what

01:04:31.389 --> 01:04:33.590
do you so the time I don't have a tagline thought

01:04:33.590 --> 01:04:40.349
we have it's the dead attempt And I've liked

01:04:40.349 --> 01:04:43.909
the idea that they're they're taking it down

01:04:44.030 --> 01:04:46.329
Like, you know, they're doing something that's

01:04:46.329 --> 01:04:53.030
impossible. They're turning this around and the

01:04:53.030 --> 01:04:56.110
final. OK, the dead attempt. I like the idea

01:04:56.110 --> 01:04:59.190
of like the tagline somehow being part of the

01:04:59.190 --> 01:05:01.469
title. And it becomes like a full sentence, like

01:05:01.469 --> 01:05:04.550
the dead attempt something. Oh, I got you. You

01:05:04.550 --> 01:05:06.309
know what you're saying? Like that could be really

01:05:06.309 --> 01:05:09.269
fun. I see what you're saying. The dead attempt,

01:05:09.289 --> 01:05:11.269
the possible would be pretty cool. I could see

01:05:11.269 --> 01:05:15.860
that working for this. Okay, well something like

01:05:15.860 --> 01:05:18.739
this Because I mean does also fit the theme of

01:05:18.739 --> 01:05:20.500
like these guys were destined for death like

01:05:20.500 --> 01:05:23.019
let's be real here then They're the dead attempting

01:05:23.019 --> 01:05:26.920
this the dead attempt. Oh, they're the dead attempt.

01:05:26.940 --> 01:05:30.719
I get you I get you Just spitball in here. I'm

01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:38.969
none so bold You know The dead attempt I see

01:05:38.969 --> 01:05:41.409
the poster. I almost do. Yeah, I can see it.

01:05:41.409 --> 01:05:43.610
And then it being small, you know what I mean?

01:05:43.610 --> 01:05:48.530
Uh -huh. But who, like, are, is the Road Warrior,

01:05:49.150 --> 01:05:52.570
are those scores? Oh, I think so. Those are scores.

01:05:53.289 --> 01:05:56.230
I think that is a scored, like, all of them.

01:05:56.429 --> 01:05:58.489
I don't think any of them have a real quote -un

01:05:58.489 --> 01:05:59.969
-po piece of music. Oh, see, this is, yeah, Brian

01:05:59.969 --> 01:06:06.989
May. Not of Queen, but Brian May did the Road

01:06:06.989 --> 01:06:10.849
Warrior. Okay. That's not a good poll. I'm just

01:06:10.849 --> 01:06:20.570
saying So the dead attempt No one wins Maybe

01:06:20.570 --> 01:06:23.489
the dead attempt no one wins because in the end

01:06:23.489 --> 01:06:28.210
no one maybe Maybe yeah, that's too cheesy. Never

01:06:28.210 --> 01:06:33.550
mind. I rescind I rescind Well, do you want it

01:06:33.550 --> 01:06:35.889
to be uplifting or do you want it to be ambiguous?

01:06:35.889 --> 01:06:39.000
That's the thing about that We end on a Rocky

01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:43.579
four photo finish. Rocky four. If I'm mistaken,

01:06:43.820 --> 01:06:46.320
they end Rocky four on a photo like cliffhanger

01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:50.539
and we tell nobody anything. Am I mistaken? Am

01:06:50.539 --> 01:06:53.780
I the wrong Rocky? There's a few of them. Sorry.

01:06:54.619 --> 01:07:00.639
That's interesting. Well, let's see. The dead

01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:03.320
attempt. I want Alan Silvestri to do the score.

01:07:03.579 --> 01:07:09.670
Who's Alan Silvestri? Let's see. Well, he did

01:07:09.670 --> 01:07:14.570
the Back to the Future movies, but he's done

01:07:14.570 --> 01:07:21.610
Beowulf, Eraser, The Mummy Returns. He did Predator.

01:07:21.869 --> 01:07:25.809
I can see this. I can see this. Solid candidate.

01:07:26.550 --> 01:07:28.710
Solid candidate. I was going to just say, who

01:07:28.710 --> 01:07:32.489
was I just thinking? For music? Is that too big?

01:07:32.829 --> 01:07:35.829
No, I don't think it's too big. Do me a favor.

01:07:35.989 --> 01:07:38.710
Could you look up who did the who composed the

01:07:38.710 --> 01:07:41.650
movie Sahara? The two thousand five. I want to

01:07:41.650 --> 01:07:45.210
like have Tyler Bates. Who's Tyler Bates? Tyler

01:07:45.210 --> 01:07:51.329
Bates. He did. We did doomsday. OK. I mean, he

01:07:51.329 --> 01:07:53.630
eventually did Guardians of the Galaxy. OK. Oh,

01:07:53.670 --> 01:07:55.710
he did. But back in the day, he did a lot of

01:07:55.710 --> 01:07:58.590
small stuff. I can see him doing that. Sahara.

01:07:58.750 --> 01:08:03.800
Yeah. Who is that? Sahara. Clint Mansell. What

01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:11.039
else is Clint done? Oh, yes. Requiem for a Dream,

01:08:11.139 --> 01:08:14.019
The Fountain, The Wrestler. Yes. Would you like

01:08:14.019 --> 01:08:16.399
to see that? That would be awesome. I think he's

01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:18.880
got quite a repertoire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And

01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:21.619
High Rise. Oh, that's a really good movie. Did

01:08:21.619 --> 01:08:25.399
we find a winner? Nice composer. OK, OK. Nice

01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:28.399
one. I can't believe he did. I can't believe

01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:30.760
he did Sahara. And we're getting another team

01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:33.630
up, another mash up here. That's awesome. Nice

01:08:33.630 --> 01:08:37.390
one. Nice one. All right. So tagline. The dead

01:08:37.390 --> 01:08:43.109
attempt. The dead attempt. I mean, they do it.

01:08:43.130 --> 01:08:45.689
They really do it. The dead attempt. Yeah, they

01:08:45.689 --> 01:08:48.890
do it. I mean, the dead attempt. They do it.

01:08:48.890 --> 01:08:52.909
You know, tagline the wrong way to the wrong

01:08:52.909 --> 01:08:55.869
way to the wrong way. The dead attempt to the

01:08:55.869 --> 01:08:59.810
wrong way. No to the wrong way to T. W. O. Number

01:08:59.810 --> 01:09:02.979
two. Yeah. To the wrong way. Yeah. Or go the

01:09:02.979 --> 01:09:07.439
wrong way. I'm trying to see. I'm trying to go

01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:10.460
the dead way. Go the dead way. Give the dead

01:09:10.460 --> 01:09:14.060
away. You know, like right away. It was just

01:09:14.060 --> 01:09:17.600
like the dead attempt. The long way home. No

01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:20.300
way home. There is no home. Yeah. They're conscripted.

01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:24.840
They have to do this. It's sad. It's a sad, sad

01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:27.819
thing. But in the end, they like they take it

01:09:27.819 --> 01:09:30.979
back. The dead attempt. You know, so like it's

01:09:30.979 --> 01:09:34.579
not necessarily it's two road movies. It's one

01:09:34.579 --> 01:09:38.079
down and one back. One down and one back. The

01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:41.319
dead attempt. One down, one back. I like that.

01:09:41.720 --> 01:09:46.819
That's a good one. Pretty cool. That's a pretty

01:09:46.819 --> 01:09:50.079
good one. I like that. This sounds like a really

01:09:50.079 --> 01:09:53.140
fun movie. It really does. I want to see this

01:09:53.140 --> 01:09:55.960
movie. Is this a problem? I'm getting into the

01:09:55.960 --> 01:10:01.579
idea of road movies that show don't or tell don't

01:10:01.579 --> 01:10:03.659
show sometimes. You know what I mean? Like the

01:10:03.659 --> 01:10:06.359
idea that you can do all this stuff with a certain

01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:08.060
world where they're getting these updates on

01:10:08.060 --> 01:10:10.819
what the other team is doing. So is it interesting

01:10:10.819 --> 01:10:12.960
that the other team literally all just die out

01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:15.739
there? We don't tell them how they died. Like

01:10:15.739 --> 01:10:18.239
it's better to leave it to the imagination. Or

01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:21.880
do you think? Do we give them like newscast updates

01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:24.840
or like, we've lost contact. Yeah, because they

01:10:24.840 --> 01:10:27.939
are taken right. They are taken off the path

01:10:27.939 --> 01:10:31.399
a couple of times. Yeah. Ostensibly, these people

01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:35.340
who are like. I don't know, for whatever reason,

01:10:35.460 --> 01:10:38.920
you know, thought they were tougher, you know,

01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:42.319
went against the grain where these. Yeah. Everybody

01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:43.800
else did the thing that they thought they were

01:10:43.800 --> 01:10:45.359
going to do. And they're like, this is the way

01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:47.920
that we're always funny. Like with the mutants,

01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:50.159
when they're like, no, we're cool. Yeah, man.

01:10:50.279 --> 01:10:53.560
Sorry. We did not mean to do that. But like a

01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:56.319
really psycho hitchhiker, a really psycho group

01:10:56.319 --> 01:11:00.140
of like wasteland teens. That's reality. That

01:11:00.140 --> 01:11:02.800
could be happening. But the way that they do

01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:05.239
what they do. Yeah, in the way that they approach

01:11:05.239 --> 01:11:06.319
it. Not to say that Leo can't do it, but I would

01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:09.500
like to just see Natalie Portman as a wild, just

01:11:09.500 --> 01:11:12.140
unhinged teen leader by herself would be great.

01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:15.920
Oh, by herself? By herself. I think, not to pull

01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:17.260
away from Leo, but I think hers is being - He's

01:11:17.260 --> 01:11:19.420
out of the film? He's out. I think - Fuck you,

01:11:19.460 --> 01:11:22.500
Leo. Sorry, Leo. It was a last man decision.

01:11:23.180 --> 01:11:26.699
Had to save some money. Leo, we cut you right

01:11:26.699 --> 01:11:28.199
here right now. We have a better film for you,

01:11:28.220 --> 01:11:31.039
Leo. We'll find you one, I'm certain. Natalie

01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:34.529
Portman... Gosh, you could have possibly had

01:11:34.529 --> 01:11:38.270
a teenage just unhinged, like, like the cult

01:11:38.270 --> 01:11:41.250
of personality, like, you know, barbarianist

01:11:41.250 --> 01:11:47.189
tribe leader. She hip hops. Yeah. Yes, for sure.

01:11:47.470 --> 01:11:50.250
Like violently. She definitely does. She gets

01:11:50.250 --> 01:11:52.409
some gangster rap. One hundred percent. She gets

01:11:52.409 --> 01:11:55.189
a gangster rap scene. And like, it's terrifying.

01:11:55.390 --> 01:11:57.909
Yeah, absolutely. Like you had on her staff.

01:11:58.010 --> 01:12:01.989
Yes. Yep, I'm down. She's got shoes made of like

01:12:01.989 --> 01:12:03.869
children's. Stop tempting me with a good time,

01:12:04.050 --> 01:12:07.909
Ryan. I'm already sold. To two to two child trip

01:12:07.909 --> 01:12:11.789
cages are my shoes. My shoes. Oh, no. How about

01:12:11.789 --> 01:12:15.500
you? If this movie wasn't R, it's definitely

01:12:15.500 --> 01:12:18.699
R now. Toby Hooper could maybe direct this as

01:12:18.699 --> 01:12:20.899
well. It could turn into a horror movie. It could

01:12:20.899 --> 01:12:23.119
spin off in a lot of different ways. This movie

01:12:23.119 --> 01:12:25.359
is definitely toeing a line and I love it. Do

01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:28.100
we do everything? I'm looking at the clock. We're

01:12:28.100 --> 01:12:29.880
running down to the final seconds. We did plot

01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:33.140
to conclusion tagline, character, director. We

01:12:33.140 --> 01:12:35.279
did it. Brad Bird, please reach out. We'll make

01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:37.890
this movie with you. You know what? I think we

01:12:37.890 --> 01:12:39.930
would, wouldn't we? I would. You would. Let's

01:12:39.930 --> 01:12:43.130
do it. We're done. We did it again. And again,

01:12:43.329 --> 01:12:46.770
if anybody's interested, anybody out there, please,

01:12:46.850 --> 01:12:49.250
the email address is a little independent podcast

01:12:49.250 --> 01:12:52.010
at gmail .com. It's in the link. If you like

01:12:52.010 --> 01:12:54.409
the show, or if you want to make one of these

01:12:54.409 --> 01:12:58.170
movies, just fucking go. Let's do it. Yeah.